Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / E.V.Podcast Ep. 1 | Tony Boselli on Jags' Approach to Building the 2025 Roster
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Sean made my dream come true when he named me
- 0:03Speaker 1: Executive vice President of Football Operations.
- 0:05Speaker 2: That's a guy I want to be in the bunker with.
- 0:07Speaker 1: You know, his passion for the Jaguars, his support that
- 0:10Speaker 1: he shows right off the bat.
- 0:12Speaker 2: You know, it's contagious. Tony taking over. His EVP impacts
- 0:16Speaker 2: not only the coach, but also impacts the front office.
- 0:20Speaker 2: So look, he's in a very important and prominent role.
- 0:23Speaker 3: There's some real, real wisdom to support and you know,
- 0:28Speaker 3: security when you're with him.
- 0:29Speaker 2: At the end of the day. That's all I care about.
- 0:31Speaker 2: James Glabs though, and Lamb cou and pom success. Tony
- 0:35Speaker 2: was born per this.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Welcome into a new venture we're starting on Jaguars Media.
- 0:40Speaker 3: We're calling it the EVP Podcast. As you can imagine
- 0:44Speaker 3: from the title, the podcast is Executive vice President of
- 0:47Speaker 3: Football Operations. A long title there, Tony Bcelli and Tony,
- 0:51Speaker 3: First of all, thanks for doing this. I think I
- 0:54Speaker 3: look forward to doing this as a way to have
- 0:55Speaker 3: fans get to know your insight football on off the field.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Thanks for doing I'm looking forward to This'd be great.
- 1:02Speaker 1: It'd be good to kind of get caught up on
- 1:05Speaker 1: a regular basis and make sure our fans understand how
- 1:08Speaker 1: we're thinking about things and how we're going to do
- 1:10Speaker 1: things here at the Jacksonville Jaguars and the plan to
- 1:14Speaker 1: build a winning culture, winning organization and ultimately reached the
- 1:18Speaker 1: goal that we all have and that's the winner super Bowl.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Have you had a chance to come up for air
- 1:24Speaker 3: and realize this is really yet?
- 1:26Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:26Speaker 1: This weekend was the first time getting back from the combine.
- 1:28Speaker 1: This was the first time since I took the role.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I guess my.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Official start day was February first, but was working a
- 1:36Speaker 1: little bit before that. This was the first time that
- 1:40Speaker 1: I spent a couple of days not doing a lot
- 1:44Speaker 1: of Jaguar stuff. Got back, I played golf for the
- 1:46Speaker 1: first time on Saturday morning.
- 1:48Speaker 2: That was nice.
- 1:48Speaker 1: It was good to get out there, and then took
- 1:51Speaker 1: some time at the house just to get a lay
- 1:53Speaker 1: of the land again because it was a sprint once.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I took the job.
- 1:57Speaker 1: But as I've told everyone, John, I mean, you know,
- 2:00Speaker 1: it's not work if you love doing it right, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: it has not felt like one day of work yet.
- 2:06Speaker 3: And while you're on that topic, I know when we
- 2:10Speaker 3: talked a little beforehand, talk about Angie support so far.
- 2:14Speaker 4: Yeah, she had to be a big thing. It was
- 2:15Speaker 4: a lifestyle choice.
- 2:16Speaker 1: It was well, it was interesting because most people probably
- 2:20Speaker 1: don't know because the most interaction they had with me
- 2:23Speaker 1: was what I did with the Jaguars as far as
- 2:25Speaker 1: on game day doing the radio and then the show
- 2:27Speaker 1: on Monday night. But what they probably didn't know, I
- 2:31Speaker 1: was running a company in San Francisco that entire time,
- 2:33Speaker 1: so it was already a heavy work schedule, a lot
- 2:36Speaker 1: of travel. The good thing was when I was home,
- 2:39Speaker 1: I was home working from the house, so I got
- 2:41Speaker 1: to spend more time with Angie and our one daughter, Angley,
- 2:44Speaker 1: who's left at the house. This is a little bit different,
- 2:47Speaker 1: so different work hours, leaving the every day. And obviously
- 2:52Speaker 1: she knows me and as we talked about it when
- 2:54Speaker 1: Shod presented the opportunity, which was an amazing opportunity, really
- 3:00Speaker 1: a dream come true. First person I thoughd to was
- 3:02Speaker 1: her because it was going to change a little bit
- 3:04Speaker 1: kind of our cadence as a family and now you're
- 3:08Speaker 1: married to the NFL calendar. That's just the way it
- 3:11Speaker 1: works in the NFL. And she also knew that. She's like, listen,
- 3:15Speaker 1: you're going to go over the top and everything you
- 3:18Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean shocking for anyone who knows me.
- 3:22Speaker 1: So we sat down, had a long conversation, and so
- 3:24Speaker 1: she was all in and because listen, we'll be married
- 3:28Speaker 1: thirty years this year, and there's nothing that happens in
- 3:32Speaker 1: that household unless her and I are on the same page.
- 3:34Speaker 1: It's just how we've operated our entire lives, our whole
- 3:37Speaker 1: married lives. And so her being bought in and being
- 3:40Speaker 1: as excited as I was about it was important for me.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Probably my favorite quote that I've heard about you since
- 3:46Speaker 3: all this started was when Shad said he was born
- 3:49Speaker 3: to do this, and.
- 3:50Speaker 4: That really resonated.
- 3:51Speaker 3: I thought that for a couple of years in our conversations,
- 3:54Speaker 3: just different stuff. I'm curious if you feel that way.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Hall of Fame left tackle going to
- 3:59Speaker 3: play football, yeah.
- 4:00Speaker 4: But this feels it's always just felt right to me.
- 4:03Speaker 1: So I've had a lot of jobs in my life,
- 4:07Speaker 1: in jobs I loved, I love. I've been in healthcare
- 4:10Speaker 1: for a decade plus now we're running companies and enjoyed
- 4:13Speaker 1: every second of it. But this is the second job
- 4:17Speaker 1: that doesn't feel like a job. The first one was
- 4:19Speaker 1: a player and Obviously that was my dream growing up
- 4:22Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. This is the second dream job
- 4:25Speaker 1: that I've ever had, and whether I hope I was
- 4:27Speaker 1: born to do it, I shoh, it's right because that
- 4:30Speaker 1: means that we're going to have success and that I
- 4:33Speaker 1: can do my role effectively.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Which is just a piece of the piece of the puzzle.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Obviously, Liam is our head coach, is you know, critical,
- 4:41Speaker 1: because all that matters is you've heard me say this,
- 4:43Speaker 1: You'll hear me continue to say this is all that
- 4:45Speaker 1: matters is what happens on the grass because that's ultimately
- 4:47Speaker 1: what we're all defined by. In which I love about
- 4:52Speaker 1: the NFL. It's very immediate response, like Sunday happens you
- 4:56Speaker 1: had success or not, and the season you're evaluated based
- 4:59Speaker 1: on wins in law, and ultimately only one team gets
- 5:02Speaker 1: to really feel like, hey, we were successful this year.
- 5:06Speaker 1: And adding Liam and then James over the last week
- 5:10Speaker 1: as the GM.
- 5:11Speaker 2: You know, you got two guys there that I have.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Supreme confidence in that they're going to help lead this
- 5:16Speaker 1: organization to where we wanted to be and both have
- 5:19Speaker 1: obviously significant roles, and I have my role to support
- 5:23Speaker 1: and to make sure that we continue to do things
- 5:26Speaker 1: the right way as an organization, and the three of
- 5:29Speaker 1: us will be responsible for that and figuring this thing
- 5:32Speaker 1: out and making sure we're creating a winning culture, winning
- 5:35Speaker 1: team and doing things the right way.
- 5:37Speaker 3: So Jaguars Happy Hour with Pete Prisco is all work.
- 5:40Speaker 2: That was work. That was work. If you know Pete.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Spending any time with Pete's work, I was at the
- 5:45Speaker 1: combine with it was work.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Now, Pete's a great print. I'll miss that.
- 5:48Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite things I did every
- 5:50Speaker 1: week during the season is two hours with Pete and
- 5:53Speaker 1: JP and and kind of reviewing the game and talking
- 5:56Speaker 1: about the state of the organization from our perspective. It
- 5:59Speaker 1: was a different perspective if I had though, because I
- 6:01Speaker 1: was outside the building and a lot of respects as
- 6:03Speaker 1: it should be.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I mean that role.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I was part of the media, internal media, but still
- 6:07Speaker 1: the media, and what we did there was evaluate what
- 6:11Speaker 1: we saw on the field and what we knew and
- 6:14Speaker 1: kind of like what I like to say is we
- 6:16Speaker 1: call balls and strikes from the stands.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Right.
- 6:19Speaker 1: I am now in a much different role, have different responsibilities,
- 6:23Speaker 1: and I think as our fans tune into this and
- 6:28Speaker 1: other opportunities to hear us talk about what we're doing
- 6:30Speaker 1: with the organization. Obviously it's going to be through the
- 6:32Speaker 1: lens of understanding it from a different perspective now and
- 6:36Speaker 1: what we're trying to achieve. So but still want to
- 6:38Speaker 1: communicate to our fans of what we're doing and how
- 6:41Speaker 1: we think about things and how decisions are made and
- 6:44Speaker 1: why we make certain decisions right.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Hopefully this forum will be able to do that. A
- 6:48Speaker 3: little bit impossible. Question is there's too many details, but
- 6:52Speaker 3: as as well as possible outline the process from maybe
- 6:57Speaker 3: that last Jaguars Happy Hour until EVP. Yeah, I know
- 7:02Speaker 3: it's got to be thumbnail because.
- 7:04Speaker 2: But I was going to say how long is the podcast?
- 7:07Speaker 1: Was a We're gonna do a three hour to you know,
- 7:09Speaker 1: Joe Rogan type podcast here.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Because it's a long story, and I think it really
- 7:15Speaker 2: goes back to it's been in the I don't want.
- 7:19Speaker 1: To say it's been in the work for years, but
- 7:20Speaker 1: Shod and I've had different conversations over the years, and
- 7:24Speaker 1: and I wanted to always play the role that Shad
- 7:27Speaker 1: Mark lamping the leadership of this organization, felt I could
- 7:31Speaker 1: play the best help us move the ball down the field,
- 7:34Speaker 1: and so We've always I've had a great relationship with Shod.
- 7:37Speaker 1: He's someone I respect him mentally. I mean his obviously,
- 7:40Speaker 1: everyone knows the story of how he got to where
- 7:42Speaker 1: he is, and I felt like I've could I've always
- 7:45Speaker 1: felt like I could learn a lot from him, and
- 7:46Speaker 1: so spending time with him, with Mark Lamping was always
- 7:49Speaker 1: really important to me.
- 7:50Speaker 2: And then when this opportunity came.
- 7:52Speaker 1: It kind of happened after the last game of the
- 7:55Speaker 1: season against the Colts, when that was done and Shot
- 7:58Speaker 1: and made the decision that he was going to move
- 8:01Speaker 1: on from Doug Peterson and that staff, him and I
- 8:04Speaker 1: had a conversation. He asked me, he said, hey, I'm
- 8:07Speaker 1: thinking about this as a possible role.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.
- 8:09Speaker 1: After the coaching search gets done, and would you help
- 8:13Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes initially in the coaching search.
- 8:17Speaker 2: And I said, absolutely, anything I can do to help.
- 8:18Speaker 1: And so we went through that process, and I think
- 8:20Speaker 1: everyone knows the story by now, you know. I think
- 8:23Speaker 1: it was a Tuesday morning it came out that Liam
- 8:27Speaker 1: wasn't going to come in for the in person interview.
- 8:29Speaker 1: A couple hours later or so, it was announced that
- 8:35Speaker 1: Shot had decided to part ways. With Trent Balky, and
- 8:40Speaker 1: at that point I became more involved in the coaching
- 8:43Speaker 1: search and we went through it and you know, we've
- 8:45Speaker 1: talked about this at length about Liam, and it was
- 8:48Speaker 1: clear to me that Liam was the right guy to
- 8:50Speaker 1: lead this team without a doubt, and obviously that's how
- 8:53Speaker 1: Sean felt in the rest of the group that was
- 8:55Speaker 1: going part of that process. After that, in after the
- 8:58Speaker 1: press conference that Monday, Sead gave me a call and said, hey,
- 9:04Speaker 1: this is what I'm thinking about executive vice president Football Operations.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Went through the kind of the specifics of the role
- 9:10Speaker 1: with the relationship, you know, all the terms and all
- 9:12Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, which was pretty easy, pretty straightforward,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and I when he called me, I sat and listened
- 9:18Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, there's a party that just wants
- 9:22Speaker 1: to say yes right away.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Sure, But the other part.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Of me said, you know, I have a responsibility this
- 9:26Speaker 1: company I'm running. We just got done raising a bunch
- 9:29Speaker 1: of money from a couple of large venture capitalist firms,
- 9:32Speaker 1: and I also need to talk to my wife. So
- 9:34Speaker 1: I asked it I'd go kind of twenty four hours
- 9:35Speaker 1: to kind of talk about this, and he, typical Shod,
- 9:38Speaker 1: was gracious and said absolutely, let's talk tomorrow. So have
- 9:41Speaker 1: the conversation on the business side with the CEO and
- 9:45Speaker 1: founder of the company, a couple of one of the
- 9:47Speaker 1: board members, and then had a long conversation with Angie
- 9:51Speaker 1: and then the next day called Shad and said let's
- 9:54Speaker 1: do it. And that kind of kicked off the process
- 9:57Speaker 1: and from it was kind of hit the ground running immediately.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Well you're already doing it in a way.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I was already doing some of it, and then
- 10:04Speaker 2: now it was official. So started working with.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Liam and you know, you get a sense of who
- 10:10Speaker 1: people really are, you know, because it's one thing to say,
- 10:13Speaker 1: you know, talk about communication and collaboration in an interview,
- 10:16Speaker 1: but you could see immediately that's really who Liam is.
- 10:19Speaker 1: And brought me in and helped wherever I could in
- 10:23Speaker 1: him getting his coaching staff put together.
- 10:25Speaker 2: He was doing a great job.
- 10:26Speaker 1: I think he put together a world class or coaching staff.
- 10:30Speaker 1: You know how hard that is for a first time
- 10:33Speaker 1: coach to get that, because it's not like you just
- 10:34Speaker 1: get a pick whoever you want.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Because it's fast and you're trying to deal with contracts.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Or under contracts and you have to that's permission is
- 10:42Speaker 1: it's a tough process and Liam did a great job there.
- 10:44Speaker 1: But then we immediately went into the GM search, and
- 10:48Speaker 1: that GM search, we wanted to.
- 10:49Speaker 2: Do that the right way. Yeah, a process for that
- 10:51Speaker 2: big process. Give a lot of credit to Mark Lamping.
- 10:54Speaker 1: He really could. Because I was brand new in the role,
- 10:56Speaker 1: he would already had already been thinking about it. He
- 11:00Speaker 1: kind of brought me into the loop how they were
- 11:02Speaker 1: thinking about got my input. I thought they pretty much
- 11:05Speaker 1: had it ticked and tied really tightly, really good process.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you know, you're looking at
- 11:11Speaker 1: fifty hours of interviews, right, you know, thirty of them.
- 11:14Speaker 3: And that's just the interviews. That's not the talking afterward.
- 11:17Speaker 1: That's not to talking after that's not the background, that's
- 11:20Speaker 1: you know, we're still trying to get some of the coaches,
- 11:22Speaker 1: the final coaches done, so you're you're juggling a lot
- 11:27Speaker 1: of people's times and calendars and it's a lot of work.
- 11:29Speaker 1: So we went through that process virtual first. We had
- 11:33Speaker 1: a you know, a number of people involved in that.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I thought it was really it was done well and
- 11:39Speaker 1: got a lot of people's buying, which is important for me.
- 11:43Speaker 1: And then we did the in person where Sean came
- 11:45Speaker 1: in and we had five in person, and that was
- 11:47Speaker 1: an intense few days.
- 11:49Speaker 2: You have four hour interviews. You're diving deep.
- 11:52Speaker 1: And we got through that next thing, you know, at
- 11:54Speaker 1: the combine, I mean and you look up and it's March, right,
- 11:56Speaker 1: I'm like, well that was a fast month.
- 11:59Speaker 4: I mean here we got you get to relax.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Or in free agency, yeah, I mean nothing big coming up,
- 12:03Speaker 1: just free agency coming up and everyone's running around trying
- 12:06Speaker 1: to get that we have. You know, you have to
- 12:07Speaker 1: look at your roster first and foremost, and then you
- 12:10Speaker 1: have to overlay. You know, none of these things can
- 12:13Speaker 1: be done in the vacuum, at least I don't believe
- 12:15Speaker 1: if you want to be successful. So you have to
- 12:16Speaker 1: look at current roster, what's gonna be available in free agency,
- 12:19Speaker 1: which is an ever moving target because you have guys
- 12:22Speaker 1: who are gonna get released at the league year and then,
- 12:25Speaker 1: but you want to make sure you marry that up
- 12:27Speaker 1: with what's in the draft and where's the draft deep?
- 12:29Speaker 1: What's your draft strategy? You know, what kind of gaps
- 12:32Speaker 1: and holes do you want to fill? And so there's
- 12:36Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it, and you got to
- 12:37Speaker 1: kind of be very coordinated and strategic be as you
- 12:39Speaker 1: think through it.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Do you see uh, your role right now? Do you
- 12:45Speaker 3: see it evolving changing over time in terms of influence
- 12:51Speaker 3: on the field, in terms of just the conversations. I
- 12:54Speaker 3: assume as as James and Liam get more comfortable, you
- 12:58Speaker 3: guys will know what each part.
- 13:01Speaker 4: Needs to do.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it will always evolve.
- 13:06Speaker 1: I have no idea today what that means, to be
- 13:10Speaker 1: quite honest. I mean, I think it's what we have,
- 13:12Speaker 1: What shot is laid out, and what we have all
- 13:15Speaker 1: kind of stacked hands on is very clear. I mean,
- 13:18Speaker 1: Liam is the head football coach, while all three of
- 13:21Speaker 1: us are you know, all report to shod as I
- 13:25Speaker 1: like to say, is we're gonna be head coach centric
- 13:27Speaker 1: and so Liam's kind of call it first among equals.
- 13:32Speaker 1: But he's responsible for what happens on the grass, his staff,
- 13:34Speaker 1: you know, set in the culture. He's going to be
- 13:36Speaker 1: the voice of this building and that's a non negotiable. Obviously,
- 13:40Speaker 1: James is the GM player acquisition, player disposal, so think
- 13:44Speaker 1: of that as free agency called draft trades, cuts all
- 13:48Speaker 1: those things, and obviously working very tightly with the head
- 13:51Speaker 1: coach and understanding because You've got to make sure you
- 13:53Speaker 1: understand what how the type of football that Liam wants
- 13:56Speaker 1: to play, and Grant as though see in camp as
- 14:00Speaker 1: our decoordinator, and so that'll be a very close collaboration.
- 14:04Speaker 1: And then my job is to overseeing all the supporting
- 14:08Speaker 1: staff and so you know, and James and I've talked
- 14:11Speaker 1: about it. Our job together is to make sure Liam
- 14:13Speaker 1: and his staff and our players have everything they need
- 14:15Speaker 1: to be successful because it goes back to the main thing,
- 14:17Speaker 1: and that's on the field. And I think the simplest
- 14:21Speaker 1: way without getting into a bunch of minutia to view
- 14:24Speaker 1: me and my role is I'm the offensive lineman and
- 14:27Speaker 1: that's what I've always been to this organization.
- 14:29Speaker 2: My job is to block, protect the quarterback, open.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Up holes, and to help move the ball down the
- 14:34Speaker 1: field so that somebody else can spike in the end
- 14:36Speaker 1: zone and have success. And that's how we're going to
- 14:39Speaker 1: approach this. Everything we do, the three of us will
- 14:42Speaker 1: sit down and talk through big strategic decisions and everything else.
- 14:45Speaker 1: But I have the utmost confidence and James to build
- 14:49Speaker 1: our roster and the utmost confidence in Liam to build
- 14:51Speaker 1: a winning football team and call ball plays on.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Sunday as in a few sentences, what about Liam deal Love, Well.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Let's start with the x's and o's.
- 15:04Speaker 1: I mean, just turn on the tape and look what
- 15:06Speaker 1: he's done everywhere he's been and highlighted last year top
- 15:10Speaker 1: five offense, top five and rushing top five and passing
- 15:13Speaker 1: and what people forget probably I think it was six
- 15:16Speaker 1: or seven games he'd have two of the best receivers.
- 15:18Speaker 3: In football and he was still a fake personnel.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Change, big personnel change did with a rookie running back,
- 15:23Speaker 1: really a rookie center, rebuilt that offensive line. They were
- 15:26Speaker 1: thirty second in the league the year before in rushing.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Just an outstanding job coaching. So that's so that's on
- 15:33Speaker 1: the offensive side, But being a head coach is more
- 15:35Speaker 1: than that. And so I think what's really jumped out,
- 15:38Speaker 1: what jumped out of me, jumped out at me during
- 15:40Speaker 1: the interview and has been confirmed, is just the overall
- 15:44Speaker 1: leadership that he possesses, his ability to.
- 15:47Speaker 3: Communicate, and that's the job more than play call, and
- 15:49Speaker 3: that is the job.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And he has the ability, he has strong convictions of
- 15:53Speaker 1: how he wants it to look. He's able to communicate
- 15:56Speaker 1: that clearly and very concisely, which is really important. And
- 16:02Speaker 1: he has a presence about him, and you know sometimes
- 16:05Speaker 1: those leadership qualities you just don't know until you see him,
- 16:09Speaker 1: and they're the intangibles, and he has that ability. So
- 16:13Speaker 1: I think, you know, and then if you kind of
- 16:15Speaker 1: wrap that all up with a lot of energy, I mean,
- 16:17Speaker 1: this is a guy who has some energy. Now he's
- 16:19Speaker 1: he's you know, he's going to go and so I'm
- 16:22Speaker 1: really excited with what he's gonna be able to do
- 16:24Speaker 1: for this organization.
- 16:25Speaker 4: Same question about James.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Well, Liam and I joked around. He raised the IQ
- 16:31Speaker 1: of the front office quite a bit. Now some would
- 16:33Speaker 1: say with me and there it's a low bar, but
- 16:35Speaker 1: at least he raised it. He but he not only
- 16:39Speaker 1: has a very high IQ, he has what I would
- 16:42Speaker 1: say is a very high EQ. His understanding how to communicate,
- 16:46Speaker 1: how to bring people along is really impressive and I
- 16:51Speaker 1: think you really got that in.
- 16:54Speaker 2: The virtual interviews.
- 16:54Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is a smart individual and
- 16:57Speaker 1: this is a guy who knows how to communicate and
- 16:59Speaker 1: build teams. It was clear about that. What really was
- 17:03Speaker 1: impressive during the in person was his evaluation of the roster.
- 17:07Speaker 1: He's a real talent evaluator.
- 17:10Speaker 4: So stuff he was saying lined up with what you've
- 17:12Speaker 4: been seeing.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Wow.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I mean, just like you can see why the Rams
- 17:16Speaker 1: have had success the last couple of years as him
- 17:18Speaker 1: leading the college draft process for them and then him
- 17:21Speaker 1: taking us through and how he thinks about it. He
- 17:24Speaker 1: has a very high capacity to take in a lot
- 17:27Speaker 1: of different information, correlate that information, make sense of it,
- 17:30Speaker 1: and then kind of deliver it and make decisions.
- 17:32Speaker 3: And that's about his key thing for a GM he
- 17:35Speaker 3: can have because you have to communicate it all.
- 17:37Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's not just enough. It's not enough
- 17:39Speaker 1: just to be adept in evaluating. But now how do
- 17:45Speaker 1: you take that information and communicate it to the rest
- 17:48Speaker 1: of the constituents in the.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Building, Because there's a lot of constituents, a lot.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Of constituents, and he does a great job. So I
- 17:55Speaker 1: could not be more excited about where we sit today.
- 17:58Speaker 1: And listen, John, you've been around the league for a
- 18:01Speaker 1: long time. You're not gonna win any games today, but you.
- 18:04Speaker 2: Sure can lose some games. You know.
- 18:07Speaker 1: It's we're sitting here in March, you know, call this
- 18:10Speaker 1: phase one of this journey we're on. And I think
- 18:13Speaker 1: we've won phase one and that's great, but it doesn't
- 18:17Speaker 1: mean you're gonna have success. And I think what we
- 18:20Speaker 1: want to do this offseason is continue to win each
- 18:22Speaker 1: phase of this journey so that when we get on
- 18:25Speaker 1: the grass, we are ready to go execute.
- 18:29Speaker 2: And have success.
- 18:30Speaker 1: And we don't want to We don't want to do
- 18:32Speaker 1: anything that puts us behind the eight ball. And I
- 18:34Speaker 1: think so far we've done a great job. A lot
- 18:36Speaker 1: of credit to both James and Liam jumping in into
- 18:40Speaker 1: the deep end right away and getting to work immediately.
- 18:43Speaker 3: Can you feel there was so much talk with the
- 18:45Speaker 3: combine about the synergy, talk about the north star of
- 18:49Speaker 3: the Rams. In fact, they've been around each other and
- 18:51Speaker 3: around the same thing. Do you feel that and if so,
- 18:55Speaker 3: is there an example of how you feel it?
- 18:57Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think one of the things
- 18:59Speaker 1: that's been good is there's a little bit.
- 19:01Speaker 2: They're comfortable because they had a relationship before.
- 19:03Speaker 1: But at the same time in completely different roles when
- 19:07Speaker 1: they knew each other before. Sure, I mean Liam was
- 19:10Speaker 1: a start off as a position coach, came back as
- 19:13Speaker 1: the OC. James has had several roles in the organization.
- 19:18Speaker 1: I can't tell you exactly what stage he was at
- 19:21Speaker 1: when Liam was there.
- 19:22Speaker 3: I think he was a director of scouting strategy. He
- 19:24Speaker 3: is close, but not the guy.
- 19:25Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So that's one relationship when they are
- 19:29Speaker 1: in the rams. This is a completely different relationship. Now
- 19:31Speaker 1: now they are the three of us are in this together,
- 19:34Speaker 1: and so it's really a marriage, and so there's going
- 19:37Speaker 1: to be a learning curve.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Listen.
- 19:39Speaker 1: The key is that we need to build a really
- 19:41Speaker 1: strong relationships with each other. And I said this in
- 19:43Speaker 1: the press conference, and great relationships are built on trust.
- 19:46Speaker 1: And the only way you established those type of relationships
- 19:50Speaker 1: is it takes time and you got to go through
- 19:52Speaker 1: the fire together and you've got to have those hard conversations.
- 19:56Speaker 1: You have to, you know, make sure you're not getting
- 19:58Speaker 1: into a situation where it's a bunch of group think
- 20:00Speaker 1: everyone's agreeing to agree. I don't think that's going to
- 20:04Speaker 1: be an issue, knowing Liam and James and I know
- 20:07Speaker 1: me not a lot of not a big group think guy,
- 20:11Speaker 1: not afraid to share an opinion, and so, but that
- 20:15Speaker 1: that's gonna take time enough to develop that we're gonna
- 20:17Speaker 1: have to strengthen those relationships.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Which we will. We're all committed to it.
- 20:21Speaker 1: And ultimately, no matter what I say today, the proof
- 20:24Speaker 1: is gonna be in the pudding.
- 20:25Speaker 2: I mean, we got to go execute.
- 20:26Speaker 1: We got to go show first and foremost shot and
- 20:30Speaker 1: that he has trusted us to do this. We got
- 20:32Speaker 1: to go prove to him that he made the right
- 20:34Speaker 1: bet in the three of us. And then ultimately we
- 20:37Speaker 1: got to prove it to the whole organization, our players,
- 20:39Speaker 1: and then at the end of the day, our fans
- 20:41Speaker 1: and our sponsors and our partners that when they come
- 20:43Speaker 1: to games at ever Bank or they tune on tune
- 20:47Speaker 1: into a road game, that they see a product they're
- 20:50Speaker 1: proud of, and that this is a team that's gonna
- 20:53Speaker 1: be you know, tough, smart, discipline, going to play the
- 20:56Speaker 1: game the right way.
- 20:57Speaker 2: And that's what we're playing on, playing on building.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Quick final too, any thoughts from the combine. It was
- 21:03Speaker 3: your first time since you went as a player, right?
- 21:05Speaker 1: No, I went one other time, the first year Tom
- 21:08Speaker 1: was here and I think it was twenty seventeen. Ok,
- 21:10Speaker 1: the first year I went for a few days around
- 21:13Speaker 1: the offensive line, right, but never in this role obviously
- 21:17Speaker 1: or in this It was much different.
- 21:20Speaker 2: It was good.
- 21:21Speaker 1: I thought our team did a great job. I was
- 21:24Speaker 1: really proud of the whole organization, how they represented us
- 21:28Speaker 1: at the combine, whether that's from you know, the production
- 21:31Speaker 1: team and you guys. I thought that was really well done.
- 21:33Speaker 1: I think our scouts were prepared, our coaches came in,
- 21:37Speaker 1: we got a lot of work done.
- 21:38Speaker 2: We treated it as a work week. Sure, so we
- 21:41Speaker 2: started through free agency.
- 21:42Speaker 1: So I was really pleased overall with the effort and
- 21:45Speaker 1: how everyone was prepared and we got things done. So yeah,
- 21:50Speaker 1: it was good overall. I think we accomplished what we
- 21:53Speaker 1: wanted to and that's a positive.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Without giving away anything because you won't the next week
- 22:00Speaker 3: prepping for free agency and then anything fans can expect
- 22:05Speaker 3: in freegency, not specifics, but active passive.
- 22:09Speaker 4: How would you.
- 22:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the way I would think about everything
- 22:13Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we're gonna make decisions that make
- 22:15Speaker 1: us a better football team. And whether that's super active
- 22:19Speaker 1: in free agency or not, I think that's gonna be
- 22:21Speaker 1: a year to year thing. I don't think there's an
- 22:23Speaker 1: overall philosophy saying, hey, we're not gonna be inactive in
- 22:27Speaker 1: free agency or we're gonna spend every dollar we can
- 22:29Speaker 1: in free agency. That's not I think that's the wrong
- 22:32Speaker 1: way to approach it. The right way to approach free
- 22:34Speaker 1: agency and the college draft is making decisions that makes
- 22:37Speaker 1: you better on the field. And I think the commitment
- 22:40Speaker 1: you have from us as a leadership team is we're
- 22:43Speaker 1: every decision we make is it good for the Jacksonville
- 22:45Speaker 1: Jaguars and does it help us win football games? If
- 22:47Speaker 1: it doesn't do those two things, why are we doing it?
- 22:50Speaker 2: And so that's our.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Approach to free agency. We're gonna we're gonna attack free agency.
- 22:54Speaker 1: We're gonna get after it. We'll compete, you know, listen,
- 22:58Speaker 1: And I think most people know that. So you can
- 23:00Speaker 1: have the greatest plan and you can plan out and
- 23:04Speaker 1: have all these great ideas going in the free agency.
- 23:07Speaker 2: It's a little bit of the wild wild West.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Because the players three change a lot.
- 23:11Speaker 2: The players gonna choose what they want to do too.
- 23:13Speaker 1: So you can offer a great deal and you think, hey,
- 23:15Speaker 1: we want X player and we got this great plan
- 23:18Speaker 1: for them, and man, it's Jacksonville's Florida. It's this money
- 23:22Speaker 1: and all the stuff that goes into it. And they
- 23:25Speaker 1: can look at you and say, I'm good, I'm gonna
- 23:27Speaker 1: go to I'm gonna go to the Rams right going
- 23:31Speaker 1: to go to Baltimore wherever they go. So but we
- 23:35Speaker 1: will have a very good plan and we've started working
- 23:38Speaker 1: on that last week.
- 23:39Speaker 2: I will continue this week and we'll go in.
- 23:41Speaker 1: We'll be ready to execute and uh and we'll go
- 23:45Speaker 1: compete and try to get the guys we want and
- 23:47Speaker 1: uh and we'll But I think that for the fans,
- 23:50Speaker 1: I'd worry less about whether it's early late, big money
- 23:56Speaker 1: not a big.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Money, they're gonna worry if it's not early.
- 23:58Speaker 2: They shouldn't go.
- 24:00Speaker 1: You got to have to give us, give us some time,
- 24:02Speaker 1: have confidence that what we are doing we view is
- 24:06Speaker 1: the best for this organization to win football games, because
- 24:10Speaker 1: that's all it matters. As if you're a fan, listen
- 24:12Speaker 1: to this right now. All you care about the end
- 24:14Speaker 1: of the day is having success in winning. Don't get
- 24:18Speaker 1: hung up on whether we won the off season or not.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Like they should all know that we plan on winning
- 24:25Speaker 1: every phase. But how we judge winning and losing might
- 24:28Speaker 1: be a little bit different because we're working with more
- 24:30Speaker 1: information and we have a very specific plan we're trying
- 24:32Speaker 1: to execute against and we can't share all that with
- 24:35Speaker 1: everybody because then we we get we're at a competitive
- 24:38Speaker 1: disadvantage in the league. So but know that we are organized,
- 24:42Speaker 1: we're ready to go, and we're going to get after it.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Come free agency in our way, and we're going to
- 24:47Speaker 2: do it the right way.
- 24:48Speaker 3: The last segment, because I'm a clever guy who, yes.
- 24:52Speaker 2: You are clever, I've brought the oar. You're very clever.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Well, the last thing we're going to do, we're calling
- 24:57Speaker 3: it the bow zone, and it gives you a chance
- 25:00Speaker 3: to answer the questions.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Okay, as long as it's not the bozo.
- 25:04Speaker 3: Well it's the bozone with the bozo asking questions about that.
- 25:09Speaker 2: That's rare.
- 25:10Speaker 3: And before your EVP, I would have called you the bozo,
- 25:13Speaker 3: but not anymore than.
- 25:14Speaker 2: For the respect. I know behind closed doors that's not
- 25:17Speaker 2: the case.
- 25:17Speaker 4: But that's a little bit publicly.
- 25:19Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Uh JK from New York and for Indina beach rights
- 25:24Speaker 3: and this is sort of softball for you. Your first
- 25:26Speaker 3: one is Tony Bisselli, the left tackle of the Jags
- 25:29Speaker 3: football operation.
- 25:31Speaker 4: And I think you already answer the question.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my Yeah, I think that's how I view it.
- 25:34Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, I have
- 25:36Speaker 1: one goal when I took this job. Really one goal
- 25:40Speaker 1: is to bring it, to bring a Super Bowl here
- 25:42Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, to have the Lombardi Trophy in our building,
- 25:46Speaker 1: meaning we won the whole thing, and that's that's my goal.
- 25:50Speaker 1: That's what I want for this organization. I want us
- 25:52Speaker 1: to be viewed as the premiere organization in the NFL,
- 25:56Speaker 1: and everything we do on the field in this building,
- 26:01Speaker 1: I think that's the standard, and that's you know, that's
- 26:04Speaker 1: my only goal.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Michael from Orange Park, Florida, Rites Zone. You recently said
- 26:09Speaker 3: it will take two or three years to get to
- 26:11Speaker 3: the level of the Kansas City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles
- 26:14Speaker 3: because there's still roster building to be done. Why don't
- 26:17Speaker 3: you ask one of the new leaders if they agree
- 26:19Speaker 3: with that. Well, I thought, since you're one of the
- 26:21Speaker 3: new leaders, and to preface, what I meant was getting
- 26:25Speaker 3: to a super Bowl level, and again, curious how you
- 26:30Speaker 3: see it.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm less concerned about the time frame because I
- 26:33Speaker 1: think when you put timeframes on it, you almost set
- 26:36Speaker 1: yourself up for both disappointment but kind of give yourself
- 26:44Speaker 1: maybe an easy way out, because to me, it's like
- 26:46Speaker 1: what we should be worried about is twenty twenty five,
- 26:49Speaker 1: and the goal every year is to win a super Bowl.
- 26:52Speaker 1: I mean, that's how we're approaching it now. Whether we're
- 26:56Speaker 1: gonna win the super Bowl this year or next year,
- 26:58Speaker 1: the year after, I have no idea. There's so many
- 27:00Speaker 1: things that go into it. We haven't even started free agency,
- 27:03Speaker 1: we have the draft, we haven't got our players back here.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Liam and our staff are just starting to do the work.
- 27:10Speaker 1: I mean they've been at it since they got hired,
- 27:12Speaker 1: but I mean there's a lot of work to be done.
- 27:14Speaker 1: And then in the NFL, you never know what's gonna happen.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Guys get hurt, you know, opportunities come, players peak at
- 27:22Speaker 1: certain times, and out of nowhere, you're sitting there in
- 27:25Speaker 1: the playoffs and.
- 27:26Speaker 2: You have a chance.
- 27:26Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anyone in ninety six thought
- 27:28Speaker 1: we were going to be a team competing and go
- 27:30Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, correct, And we were, you know,
- 27:34Speaker 1: in the red five minutes away from tying up and
- 27:37Speaker 1: possibly sending it overtime.
- 27:39Speaker 2: And so, you know, I don't know when it's gonna happen,
- 27:42Speaker 2: but I know this.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Is that that's what we're competing for, and that's what
- 27:45Speaker 1: we're striving for, and that's how we're going to make.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Decisions here, so timeframe, I have.
- 27:52Speaker 4: No idea, Tony.
- 27:54Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this. I'm looking forward to this.
- 27:56Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be great things for the fans.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Thank you very much for doing the Eve ep podyast.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Thank you Ozon. I appreciate it.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Mhm