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FTTxJT 063026 "Watson vs RNC Ruling" · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 3: results may vary is Supreme Court rulings. I know this
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  Speaker 3: is taking on quite a judiciary. Look, but my question,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to ask this to Tom Tom drops
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  Speaker 3: Bot from the Virginia General Assembly. As I said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this issue with litigating to force the government to do
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  Speaker 3: something you don't you shouldn't have to do. But that's why,
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  Speaker 3: in my view, the judiciary exists because they expected authoritarians
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  Speaker 3: to try to take untoward power over us. And one
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  Speaker 3: of the cases I wanted to get into Watson versus
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  Speaker 3: r n C and joining us to get into it.
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  Speaker 3: And I know a lot of folks saying versus r
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  Speaker 3: n See, I'm down with that. Is is one of
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  Speaker 3: the principles with the firm Landmark Legal Foundation at the
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  Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan Legal Center. Dan O'Neil is on with us.
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  Speaker 3: Mike O'Neil, I'm sorry, I don't know who Dan is.
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  Speaker 3: If he's your brother that you didn't like, he's all right, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know he still has time yet, Mico, vice president
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  Speaker 3: of Legal affairs there talk about the Watson and RNC.
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  Speaker 3: You you call it a troubling misstep, right, and and
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  Speaker 3: the U and the election process. Talk about why you
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  Speaker 3: see it that way.
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  Speaker 4: This is a law that was involved in Mississippi has
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  Speaker 4: passed the law, and it's not not just similar to
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  Speaker 4: other states that have instituted mail ballot voting via mail ballot.
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  Speaker 4: This is a law in question in Mississippi that permitted
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  Speaker 4: the receipt of postmarked mail ballots up to five days
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  Speaker 4: after election day. And so we know that the mail
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  Speaker 4: ballot process is inherently risky process. The opening of that
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  Speaker 4: window post election day really promotes or incentivizes malfeasans and mischief.
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  Speaker 4: So the question was whether that law, Mississippi law, was
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  Speaker 4: in violation with a federal law that defined stating that
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  Speaker 4: election day is to be the first Tuesday after the
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  Speaker 4: first Monday in November. And the question the court, the
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  Speaker 4: Supreme Court wrestled with here was what is the meaning
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  Speaker 4: of the term election?
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  Speaker 5: Does election mean the.
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  Speaker 4: Casting and receipt of ballots, including mail ballots, or does
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  Speaker 4: it just mean sipplate the casting of ballots and then
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  Speaker 4: ergo promote permitting those sorts of state laws that have
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  Speaker 4: on the books the permissive the permissibility of receipt of
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  Speaker 4: mail bouts after election day. So we're really wrestling with
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  Speaker 4: whether these these statutes can be on the.
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  Speaker 5: Books and whether they're in conflict with federal law.
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  Speaker 4: And the Supreme Court, surprisingly, honestly, after listening to oral
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  Speaker 4: arguments and reading a lot of the briefs in this case,
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  Speaker 4: surprisingly said that these law that this sort of law,
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  Speaker 4: specifically Mississippi's law could stay on the books, could remain
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  Speaker 4: on the books. In other words, it's permissible. It does
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  Speaker 4: not conflict with a federal law. So now we know
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  Speaker 4: that Mississippi's law is permissible. If they had held, if
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  Speaker 4: the Court had held that Mississippi law was impermissible, then
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  Speaker 4: it would have struck down and made illegal laws like
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  Speaker 4: Washington States, which allows bouts to receive the twenty one
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  Speaker 4: days after election day, California, which doesn't require a postmark
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  Speaker 4: by election day, So all these others, all of these
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  Speaker 4: other state laws are still in the books as well.
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  Speaker 5: Let me be very clear.
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  Speaker 4: Here, the court was the Court's majority was strictly limited
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  Speaker 4: to that decision regarding the Mississippi law, but by implication,
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  Speaker 4: by not striking down the Mississippi law, it had upheld
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  Speaker 4: all of those other laws as well.
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  Speaker 3: Well. Is it in this and I've said this before
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  Speaker 3: to my listeners, Supreme Court rulings are often the devil
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  Speaker 3: is in the detail, how is it filed? What was
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  Speaker 3: the original case? Because as I understand this ruling, it's
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  Speaker 3: about saying that Mississippi's legislature had the right to write
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  Speaker 3: their election laws in the way that they have, and
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  Speaker 3: and though we may not like their election laws they have,
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  Speaker 3: they have a position in the process to make that happen.
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  Speaker 3: In the bigger issue, I think to me brings this
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  Speaker 3: back to the Save America Act. Several of my listeners
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  Speaker 3: have asked, how is that, you know, not a violation
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  Speaker 3: of federalism, And my my point was, it's defending my
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  Speaker 3: right to have one person, one vote and not to
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  Speaker 3: have my vote usurped by somebody who's not a citizen.
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  Speaker 3: So it is a federal law. It is a federal
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  Speaker 3: responsibility to protect my right as a citizen to not
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  Speaker 3: have my vote infringed upon. But more than that, doesn't
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  Speaker 3: this also bring to bear. I know we were all
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  Speaker 3: hoping it would strike down the idea of mail in balloting.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't there be a better case than brought to it?
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  Speaker 3: Might to specifically challenging the constitutionality of mail in balloting.
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  Speaker 4: Or Yeah, And I ideally what you'd like to see is,
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  Speaker 4: let me address first the role of Congress here. And
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  Speaker 4: you raise that important point about federalism that states are
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  Speaker 4: vested primarily with conducting the affairs of their of the elections.
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  Speaker 4: But that provision in the Constitution also specifically carves out
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  Speaker 4: a role for Congress.
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  Speaker 5: So if you just read that direct.
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  Speaker 4: Provision, just go forward about three or four words, and
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  Speaker 4: it says in Congress can regulate. It provides the authority
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  Speaker 4: for Congress regulations as well. So that obviously states have
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  Speaker 4: the first they have the first bite at the apple,
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  Speaker 4: in other words, but I think Congress and our constitutional
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  Speaker 4: framework functions as a backup, as a backstop there and
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  Speaker 4: when states utterly abrogate their duty to ensure fair and
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  Speaker 4: any kind of base levels of election integrity and reasonable
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  Speaker 4: common sense measures to ensure election integrity. I think Congress
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  Speaker 4: under our structure, under our constitutional structure, acts as a backstop.
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  Speaker 5: Therefore, you know you see the Save America Act.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, ideally it would be it would be great to
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  Speaker 4: see that Congress would would enact the law that will
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  Speaker 4: prohibit mail value.
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  Speaker 5: I would love to see a national law.
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  Speaker 4: And again I've come to this position reluctantly, but it's
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  Speaker 4: only after seeing the other deficiencies in states like California
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  Speaker 4: or Washington State or other states like this that have
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  Speaker 4: no desire to ensure that to ensure reasonable.
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  Speaker 5: And right reasonable uh Texans on mailing. So Congress has
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  Speaker 5: a role here.
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  Speaker 4: I would love to see a national law, a law
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  Speaker 4: saying election is a federal Elections are a national holiday,
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  Speaker 4: with very limited exceptions overseas mail ballots, maybe absentee ballots
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  Speaker 4: for the infirmed and ill. Most people should vote in
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  Speaker 4: person on election day via paper ballot.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the least that we can expect for
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  Speaker 5: our from our democracy.
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  Speaker 3: Is it a better legal argument? And understand, I grew
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  Speaker 3: up in a world that I was told over and
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  Speaker 3: over again that our constitution was supposed to be simple
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  Speaker 3: enough that you wouldn't need a lawyer to interpret it.
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  Speaker 3: That to say, you know, here, we're going to pass
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  Speaker 3: a law because mail in balloting violates Virginian or an
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  Speaker 3: American citizen's right to have their vote cast and confident
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  Speaker 3: that it was only cast by a citizen, because mail
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  Speaker 3: in balloting cannot guarantee that, than it is a violation
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  Speaker 3: of my right to have my vote protected as an individual.
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  Speaker 3: Because I feel like that's a more constitutional approach to it.
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  Speaker 3: Does that make any sense?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's the broader policy perspective.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, that you have a right one one person, one vote,
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  Speaker 4: and that the argument.
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  Speaker 5: The argument, and.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately it hasn't really necessarily been adopted by courts, is
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  Speaker 4: the dilution vote.
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  Speaker 5: Is the delution argument.
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  Speaker 4: You're saying, essentially, every illegally, illegally cast ballot dilutes the
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  Speaker 4: value of your vote. And I think that's a legitimate
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  Speaker 4: argument to make. Unfortunately, a court hasn't bought that. They
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  Speaker 4: bought voter dilution in the context of the Civil Rights
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  Speaker 4: Act and the Voting Rights Act, that African American votes
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  Speaker 4: are being deluded but through gerrymandering, and that there was
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  Speaker 4: the whole Louis and all of that. We can get
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  Speaker 4: into it, but I I agree with your principle in
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  Speaker 4: principle that every illegally cast vote dilutes.
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  Speaker 5: The value of a validly cast vote.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's a very common sense, practical argument
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  Speaker 4: to profer. And I think again here the authority of
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  Speaker 4: Congress is fairly broad in this, and as I say,
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  Speaker 4: as a backstop, there's nothing stopping Congress from passing a law,
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  Speaker 4: you know, outlawing mail voting in federal elections.
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  Speaker 3: how we wrap it up. Visiting with Mike O'Neil Landmark
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  Speaker 3: Legal Watson versus rnsay, it's the Mississippi mail in ballot case,
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  Speaker 4: Ninety percent of Americans agree that you should show identification when.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the Democrats are loving the Republicans help
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  Speaker 3: seventy five percent of or no, seventy percent Democrats like
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  Speaker 3: Mike O'Neill from a Landmark Legal you mentioned and I
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  Speaker 3: just have to ask about this because I feel like
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  Speaker 3: it hits our flagship state here in Virginia. You said, so,
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  Speaker 3: this ruling ostensibly says election day is the day that
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  Speaker 3: the ballot is received from by the election official. Correct
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  Speaker 3: and right.
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  Speaker 4: So instead of the option was if and again this
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  Speaker 4: is going back to the technicalities of this case, and
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  Speaker 4: the detectual argument is you're analyzing the term election day.
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  Speaker 5: What does election means? Election mean? Is it composed of
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  Speaker 5: two things?
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  Speaker 4: Casting and again I purport, and I think there's lots
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  Speaker 4: of evidence to support this. It's casting the ballot, executing
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  Speaker 4: your ballot, and then having it being received by election officials.
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  Speaker 4: So and when you're voting in person, that's that's instantaneous.
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  Speaker 4: You vote and you cast your valet. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that's what the term election means, and I think there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of evidence.
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  Speaker 5: To support that.
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  Speaker 4: The court disagreed. Again, the majority of the court disagreed.
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  Speaker 4: They said that it needed two things, casting the vote
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  Speaker 4: and receipt of election and receipt of that ballance.
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  Speaker 5: So therefore go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I know your time is short because the reason
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  Speaker 3: I ask is that our Jerry Mandarin case in Virginia
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  Speaker 3: was decided because a judge ruled that the election was
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  Speaker 3: the forty five day window in which we were casting
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  Speaker 3: ballots and they were going into the election the state
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats were saying, Oh, no, it's just the day
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  Speaker 3: we tabulate all the votes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing was in Virginia, we're talking about
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  Speaker 4: early election, so early voting period, so I think that
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  Speaker 4: the election it opens up there, but the election is
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  Speaker 4: concluded by election day.
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  Speaker 5: So you're talking about I'm a it's that personally, that.
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  Speaker 3: Too, Yeah too, yeah. No, the two things together are
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  Speaker 3: the worst, and we have them both. So it's always
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  Speaker 3: election season.
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  Speaker 5: We don't have election day anymore. It's election season.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what I think the problem here,
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  Speaker 4: and that's the problem with the fundamental problem with.
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  Speaker 5: This decision is there's no limiting principle. Right right now,
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  Speaker 5: it's election season.
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  Speaker 4: You can have five days, you can have twenty one days.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine this hypothetical. Imagine if Washington State, which allows it
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  Speaker 4: to be concluded, collected for twenty one days. Imagine if
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  Speaker 4: that's the dispositive state for electoral votes in a presidential election,
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  Speaker 4: and you have three weeks of votes trickling in our
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  Speaker 4: nation will be held hostage by the absurd process in
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  Speaker 4: Washington State.
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  Speaker 5: That's absolutely important.
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  Speaker 4: I think a challenge to Washington State's law is in
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  Speaker 4: the mix, should be up, and then you should drag
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  Speaker 4: this case to get up to the Supreme Court sooner
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  Speaker 4: rather than later.
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  Speaker 3: Well said, Well said, from your lips again to some
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  Speaker 3: juris or Mike O'Neil again, it's Landmark Legal, the Reagan
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  Speaker 3: Legal Foundation. Thank you, sir. You have a great morning.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for your insight on this.
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  Speaker 5: My press, my pleasure. I have a great day.
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  Speaker 3: Is election day, and so the ruling on this is
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  Speaker 3: two part, as he said, and I think again these
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  Speaker 3: things go back to how the case was first filed.
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  Speaker 3: But anything that lives outside and I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: say this just so it's abundantly clear, anything that lives
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  Speaker 3: outside the purview of each valid voting citizen voting secretly
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  Speaker 3: in public, violates the concepts of democracy or democratic process.
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  Speaker 3: Our process was designed over time to keep coercion from
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  Speaker 3: being a fact, to keep bribery from being a factor,
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  Speaker 3: or to limit its impact. Somebody could coerce you, browbeat you,
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  Speaker 3: gaslight you into telling them that you are going to
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  Speaker 3: vote for their guy. But when you got into that
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  Speaker 3: voting booth. Nobody was going to know who you actually
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  Speaker 3: casted the vote for, but we were able to witness
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  Speaker 3: you do it. We were able to witness the fact
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  Speaker 3: that the person who was browbeating you into voting for
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  Speaker 3: their guy was not allowed to stand over you while
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  Speaker 3: you were in the polling place. We are all standing around.
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  Speaker 3: It's a communal event where groups of us, and each
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  Speaker 3: time you add a person to a group, it becomes
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  Speaker 3: harder to corrupt. Each set of eyes you add to
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  Speaker 3: a procedure, it becomes harder to corrupt. So we have
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  Speaker 3: to push back on this idea that voting is this
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  Speaker 3: fungible asset. Now, there is a progressive school in this
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  Speaker 3: that Eric Holder may be the only other person who
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  Speaker 3: knows the author I'm speaking of, because Eric Holder is
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  Speaker 3: the one who's out there trying to erase congressional districts
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  Speaker 3: and move votes around and and just win, just get
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  Speaker 3: when the when they go low, we kick him. That's
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  Speaker 3: that's the guy, the old Attorney General, Eric Holder. That's
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  Speaker 3: his job right now, that's his whole sum in total.
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  Speaker 3: I was reading that the Sorrows Foundation has put one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and three million dollars into the mid terms. That's
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  Speaker 3: that's what they tell you they've put in, and they
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  Speaker 3: put it into the pockets of guys like Eric Holder
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  Speaker 3: and oh geez, I'm sorry, get all ejescalating here, Southern
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  Speaker 3: Poverty Law Center ACLU, all these places. A little walking
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  Speaker 3: around money is what we used to call it in
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  Speaker 3: the South. There's a little walking around for you, reverend,
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  Speaker 3: walking around money. And make sure your parishionals come out
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  Speaker 3: to vote, free from coercion by being in public, free
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  Speaker 3: from manipulation, free to choose your own way by voting
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  Speaker 3: in secret. Those are the premises of elections. And if
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  Speaker 3: you don't have both of those, then you don't have
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  Speaker 3: faith in the election. And here's the thing, so that
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  Speaker 3: you go back to the technocratic movement of Woodrow Wilson,
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of American progressivism. There's a book called The Well.
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  Speaker 3: It was a concept called liquid democracy. I think he
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  Speaker 3: publishes a book, the author, the Philosopher, the political philosopher
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  Speaker 3: behind liquid Democracy. There's a fellow named Charles Dodgson. Charles
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  Speaker 3: Dodgson decided that voting would be much more prevalent if
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  Speaker 3: you could make it a fungible asset. You could give
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  Speaker 3: someone else your vote. Ah, I don't care about this vote.
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  Speaker 3: You want to vote, Nick, go ahead. You can give
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  Speaker 3: somebody multiple votes. You could sign away your mother in
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  Speaker 3: law's right to vote and give it to the event
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  Speaker 3: coordinator at the senior living center. It was your You
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  Speaker 3: could do as with it as you see fit. It
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  Speaker 3: sounds crazy, doesn't it. His whole design was this way
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  Speaker 3: we would get a real accounting for it, and then
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  Speaker 3: we would also proxy your previous votes. So if you
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  Speaker 3: didn't turn out to vote, but you had voted for
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  Speaker 3: least a populist with conservative bent in the White House.
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  Speaker 3: But we watched what Joe Biden can do with Merrick Garland,
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  Speaker 3: around the kind of things that Eric Holder did. However,
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  Speaker 3: them to say you can't count votes after election day.
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  Speaker 3: I've done some anecdotal digging Virginia. Virginia's voter turnout. We
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  Speaker 3: do forty five days of unfettered early voting. And I
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  Speaker 3: driving in down ninety five in Connecticut saying forty five days. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they march on your office. There's a no King's rally
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• 31:19
  Speaker 3: not gone up nationwide or individually in states at all
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: since these open ended count ballots till whenever the cows
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: come home. More Democrats have gotten elected. That's for certainly happened.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: But voter turnout has not gone up. So how is
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: going back to election day being election day vote suppressing
• 31:49
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• 31:54
  Speaker 3: these liberal positions have been taken.
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  Speaker 3: what the Supreme Court ruled in the Mississippi came yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: And then people complain And I asked, did you vote
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  Speaker 2: Nah?
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• 35:31
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  Speaker 3: want to make Karen Bass look like a conservative, never
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  Speaker 3: mind roman who's running against her. Put her up against
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  Speaker 3: But the states were to decide who the president was,
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  Speaker 3: in those electors. Most states constitutions say that the electors
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  Speaker 3: three states that their constitution says that duly chosen electors
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  Speaker 3: can vote for whoever they want. But in some of
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  Speaker 3: the ways, Steve, this is the perversion of this idea
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  Speaker 3: that Republican and Democrat are just two of the constitutionally
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  Speaker 3: the judicial, the legislative, the Republican and the Democrat. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't like it. But the premise is that you
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  Speaker 3: vote for electors. Those electors then cast their ballot for
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  Speaker 3: the president and the state is heard from. The state
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  Speaker 3: federal law, and this is where the Save Act comes in.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a federal overreach if the law is simply
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  Speaker 3: That sounds a little weird to me. So what the
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  Speaker 3: Save Act is. The Save Act is not trying to
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  Speaker 3: tell the states how they must conduct their elections. They
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  Speaker 3: are just saying they are prohibited. And this is again
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  Speaker 3: Barack Obama hates the US Constitution because it's full of
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  Speaker 3: prohibitions things she's not allowed to do. Oh. I really
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: want to give people stuff because there's a lot of
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: stuff in this country, and I just don't think people
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: haven't distributed fairly enough. But I can't do it because
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: there's constitution says shall not be infringed. What's up with that?
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Eric Calder says he can't get around it. And if
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: easy can't get around it, all of a sudden, my
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Barack Obama pitched up a little bit and started to
• 38:50
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  Speaker 5: I gotta turn over here.
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  Speaker 3: But the point of the Save Act is that it
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  Speaker 3: American citizen by making sure that only citizens get onto
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• 39:25
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  Speaker 3: the voter rolls in the United States, and that is
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a federal law to protect the rights of American citizens,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: and that is a federal responsibility. So you see why
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  Speaker 3: it's it can be portrayed as controversial by people like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: John Thune who don't want to answer to Scott Presler
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: and you and me and people are saying, exactly, why
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: don't you have enough time to do this? It's only
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: one hundred of them sit down in a room and
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: start debating, and it was loving, just loving. The snot
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: out of this are the Democrats who realize that when asked,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: seventy percent of their voters agree with the Save Act. Scott.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: That's the part that really is they're the ones who
• 40:25
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• 40:30
  Speaker 3: by their recalcitrants, and certainly Cassidy and Murkowski especially are
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: out there running cover for Democrats like Mark Kelly Adam
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Schiff who might lose their seat if they vote against
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: this because their constituents would say, nah, I want you
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to actually protect my right to know that my vote
• 40:53
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• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Charles writes in if we pay our taxes by mail
• 41:04
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• 41:07
  Speaker 3: considered to have paid on time? Yes? Also, I remember
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that there were irregularities, if you will, with military absentee
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  Speaker 3: At least don't these argue in favor of votes postmarked
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  Speaker 5: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely? As I said Charles, I'm not on here railing
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• 41:42
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