Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / IAAI Town Meeting: What’s in a Name Part 2
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am All in again, I.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Am All in Town Meeting with Suzanne French and Tara
- 0:21Speaker 2: suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another
- 0:25Speaker 2: episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tara
- 0:28Speaker 2: and Susanne.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Hello.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Hello, and this is a special episode. It's not our
- 0:33Speaker 2: usual recap. We've done a couple of special ones, like
- 0:37Speaker 2: our pale Fest, our Connecticut trip, but this one's kind
- 0:42Speaker 2: of interesting because, uh, we want to continue the conversation
- 0:46Speaker 2: from Amy and Danielle talking to Donna from Star TV
- 0:50Speaker 2: because she brought up a really interesting question. Yes, so
- 0:58Speaker 2: she brought up at the end of their episode, and
- 1:00Speaker 2: definitely feel free to go back and listen to the
- 1:02Speaker 2: Gazette Yeah from the other day. So basically what she
- 1:06Speaker 2: said is, given that Lorelai was so determined to break
- 1:09Speaker 2: away from her family and create her own path, why
- 1:12Speaker 2: did she choose to name her daughter after herself and
- 1:16Speaker 2: her mistakes continuing the family name. And this is basically
- 1:20Speaker 2: what Donna said from Start TV. And before we get
- 1:24Speaker 2: into it, Suzanne, Yeah, for the fans who are going
- 1:28Speaker 2: to come at us, we know that it's explained in
- 1:33Speaker 2: the show, right and it was mentioned in season one,
- 1:37Speaker 2: episode two, the Lorelei's first day at Chelton. So I
- 1:42Speaker 2: just will kind of let you go from here, Suzanne,
- 1:44Speaker 2: Can you kind of explain, because you meant you actually
- 1:45Speaker 2: before we jumped on, said that it's mentioned twice in
- 1:48Speaker 2: the show, right.
- 1:49Speaker 3: So it's mentioned in two different places, right at the
- 1:54Speaker 3: very beginning season one episode one, Season one, episode two,
- 1:58Speaker 3: and in the pilot in the scene where Rory meets
- 2:01Speaker 3: Dean at Childon, she drops her books all over the
- 2:03Speaker 3: floor and they introduce themselves, and she says her name,
- 2:07Speaker 3: and then she says, it's my mother's name too. She
- 2:11Speaker 3: named me after herself. She was lying in the hospital
- 2:13Speaker 3: thinking about how men name boys after themselves all the time,
- 2:16Speaker 3: you know, so why couldn't women. Her feminism just took over,
- 2:20Speaker 3: although personally, I think a lot of demarol also went
- 2:22Speaker 3: into the decision. So that was from the pilot episode
- 2:25Speaker 3: and then the very next episode, which is where they
- 2:29Speaker 3: go to Chilton and they're checking in with the secretary
- 2:32Speaker 3: at the desk and Laura's kind of stumbling over her
- 2:37Speaker 3: words a little bit, and she says, Oh, I'm Laura
- 2:39Speaker 3: like Gilmore. This is my daughter, Laura like Gilmore. I
- 2:42Speaker 3: named her after me I was in the hospital all
- 2:44Speaker 3: whacked out on demarol. And then then she says, but
- 2:47Speaker 3: we call her Rory. It's short for Laura I or
- 2:49Speaker 3: even hey you, So we know right there that it.
- 2:57Speaker 3: The show explains it as like her feminism kind of
- 3:01Speaker 3: took over. But it's an interesting question. Yeah, you know,
- 3:07Speaker 3: Donna had kind of tied it into you know, Connecticut
- 3:11Speaker 3: high society and the expectations of honoring your family, et cetera.
- 3:20Speaker 3: I don't know, I personally, I didn't read that much
- 3:23Speaker 3: into it because she also points out Donna also pointed
- 3:28Speaker 3: out that Laura I was like a sixteen year old
- 3:30Speaker 3: at the time, So a rebellious sixteen year old probably
- 3:35Speaker 3: is not thinking about, oh, let me honor my family
- 3:38Speaker 3: with this decision, like she's just gonna blurt something out.
- 3:41Speaker 2: No, she probably like gave birth and she's like, well,
- 3:43Speaker 2: I can't think of a name, so I'm gonna name
- 3:45Speaker 2: her after myself.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Right, So I think you could. I think you can
- 3:49Speaker 3: interpret it on multiple levels.
- 3:51Speaker 2: It's like terrible, terrible comparison. I'm not comparing people to animals,
- 3:55Speaker 2: but you know, when like a kid names a puppy, right,
- 3:58Speaker 2: you know, it's an interesting name.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is an interesting thing to think about
- 4:06Speaker 3: because when you think about Richard's mother was also Laurel I,
- 4:10Speaker 3: and so there was a decision made to name how
- 4:16Speaker 3: do I say, to name the Lauren Graham Laura I
- 4:19Speaker 3: after the Mary and Ross Laurel I. Not to get
- 4:22Speaker 3: the Laurel lies confused, but like they consciously made a
- 4:25Speaker 3: decision to name their baby after his mother, which would
- 4:30Speaker 3: have been you know, like, yeah, they were trying to
- 4:34Speaker 3: do that, like they were trying to honor their family,
- 4:36Speaker 3: whereas the younger Laurel I may not have been thinking
- 4:38Speaker 3: that way.
- 4:39Speaker 2: At what points did she say, but her nickname's going
- 4:43Speaker 2: to be Rory.
- 4:45Speaker 3: Yeah. That's another question that comes up a lot, is
- 4:48Speaker 3: how do you how did where did Rory come from?
- 4:50Speaker 2: That's that's the thing is like I wonder if and
- 4:54Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong or if you know, people
- 4:57Speaker 2: we can have a bigger discussion on our Instagram at
- 4:59Speaker 2: iam all in podcasts if you want to believe a comment,
- 5:02Speaker 2: but was could it also have been like she liked
- 5:05Speaker 2: the name Rory and Rory could be a spin off
- 5:07Speaker 2: of Laura I. Because of the law Rory I don't know,
- 5:12Speaker 2: I'm like really stretching it, but yeah, like where did
- 5:14Speaker 2: Rory come from?
- 5:16Speaker 1: Right?
- 5:16Speaker 3: And and that's the one thing that is never explained
- 5:19Speaker 3: in the show, Like they don't ever tell us where
- 5:21Speaker 3: Rory came from. And I've seen a lot of people.
- 5:24Speaker 3: There's a lot of different opinions out there.
- 5:26Speaker 1: You know.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Some people think, well, maybe it came from Rory herself
- 5:31Speaker 3: couldn't pronounce her own name because they are hard for
- 5:34Speaker 3: little kids to say, and so maybe maybe Rory came
- 5:37Speaker 3: up with Rory. You know, we don't know, so we
- 5:41Speaker 3: could take our imaginations in any direction. We reade that one.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Our producers, Jackie and Emma, grabbed a couple Reddit user
- 5:58Speaker 2: comments because when in out Reddit has talked about everything
- 6:04Speaker 2: under the sun. Yes, so I'm going to read a
- 6:06Speaker 2: couple these are just from anonymous users. Someone said, I
- 6:10Speaker 2: think the name also emphasizes with the fact that Laura
- 6:14Speaker 2: la I sometimes views Rory as an extension of herself
- 6:17Speaker 2: and wanted Rory to do the things she herself never
- 6:20Speaker 2: got the chance to do, probably a coping mechanism which
- 6:24Speaker 2: made it easier to give up so much in order
- 6:26Speaker 2: to raise her daughter all by herself.
- 6:29Speaker 3: I think that makes sense. You know, we've we've talked
- 6:33Speaker 3: about already how Laurai was so independent and I, you know,
- 6:37Speaker 3: she made the decision to not get married to Christopher
- 6:41Speaker 3: and to do this on her own, and I think
- 6:44Speaker 3: that makes sense to a certain extent, that she she
- 6:48Speaker 3: wants Rory to just be hers.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, here's another one. This one says and here
- 6:54Speaker 2: I am with the idea for the past upteen years
- 6:58Speaker 2: that Lorelai named her daughter Laurai Ilmore as a sort
- 7:01Speaker 2: of second chance by giving herself a do over, a
- 7:04Speaker 2: figurative a figurative clean slate, a chance at erasing all
- 7:09Speaker 2: of her and her parents' mistakes and getting Laura l
- 7:11Speaker 2: I right the second time around. I kind of thought
- 7:14Speaker 2: that was the whole point in everything she did in
- 7:16Speaker 2: raising Rory from the start of the series, which is
- 7:19Speaker 2: another really interesting point.
- 7:23Speaker 3: It yeah, it is. But again going back to the
- 7:27Speaker 3: fact that she was sixteen at the time, I don't
- 7:30Speaker 3: know that she was like, she was still so young.
- 7:33Speaker 3: I don't know that she was necessarily thinking of having
- 7:35Speaker 3: a do over at age sixteen. I think that would
- 7:39Speaker 3: have made sense, you know it when we start the
- 7:43Speaker 3: show in her thirties.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Right, But as a sixteen year old.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, but it's a good point that could be.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Another one said was she high on demarol or did
- 7:53Speaker 2: she think men name babies after themselves all the time?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Why can't women?
- 7:59Speaker 1: Right?
- 7:59Speaker 3: Which is which is what she said in that.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Which is what she says. Yeah, yeah. And then the
- 8:04Speaker 2: last one we have is I think it would have
- 8:05Speaker 2: been interesting to see a flashback of her deciding on
- 8:08Speaker 2: Rory as the nickname. This person's thinking, like I am,
- 8:12Speaker 2: like when she saw her for the first time or
- 8:14Speaker 2: did it come later, I don't know, just something I
- 8:16Speaker 2: wonder about. Yeah, that's where I think I've had this
- 8:19Speaker 2: thought before, but I just never vocalized it because it
- 8:21Speaker 2: was just me in my room watching No More Girls.
- 8:23Speaker 2: But like, truly, like I would love if I were
- 8:27Speaker 2: ever in the presence of Amy Sherman Palladino. That would
- 8:31Speaker 2: be my next question is why the nickname Rory? Yeah,
- 8:36Speaker 2: but I feel like then Amy would say something like, well,
- 8:39Speaker 2: it would be really confusing if we had Laura and LOURAI.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right, but Rory is is like why
- 8:48Speaker 3: not you know Laurie or Laura or you.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Know something, or would have made more sense yeaeah, Like, Rory.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Is a very specific name and there's a lot of
- 8:58Speaker 3: there's men named Rory.
- 9:00Speaker 2: So I was about to say I have a friend
- 9:01Speaker 2: named Rory and he is a grown man.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was an unusual choice, and I agree.
- 9:09Speaker 3: I would like to ask Amy, like, how did she
- 9:12Speaker 3: how did she pick that name when she was writing
- 9:14Speaker 3: it all out?
- 9:15Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, I guess the conversation can continue. I
- 9:19Speaker 2: guess we can go back and forth about this a lot.
- 9:22Speaker 2: I know we would love for people to head to
- 9:27Speaker 2: our Instagram at im all In podcast to comment your
- 9:29Speaker 2: thoughts because we really want to hear your theories, so
- 9:31Speaker 2: leave it in the comments. Yes, and thanks again to
- 9:34Speaker 2: Donna from Star TV, which is the brand new home
- 9:38Speaker 2: of Gilmore Girls, for coming up with this question that
- 9:41Speaker 2: kind of then trickled from their podcast episodes to ours.
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- 9:56Speaker 3: Meeting adjourned.
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