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Bible Prophecy Q&A | Joe Hawkins & Mondo Gonzales | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely looking forward all of them. So it's going
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Speaker 2: to be good times. Well, look, let's get into this.
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Speaker 2: We had some questions submitted to us, and I'll start
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Speaker 2: with the first one and see what you take his
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Speaker 2: on it. So we had Michael he submitted this question,
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Speaker 2: and this is his question. He says, I'm wondering about
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Speaker 2: the building of the Third Temple and the burnt offering
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Speaker 2: of red Heifer. Is it the Antichrist that the Jewish
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Speaker 2: people will receive as the long awaited Messiah who gives
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Speaker 2: him permission to build this new temple and reinstate the
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Speaker 2: sacrificial offerings again? And that being said, does this started
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Speaker 2: the tribulation or is the temple already built by the
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Speaker 2: beginning of the Tribulation? And does Prophecy reveal when in
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Speaker 2: what is happening with what's going on with the next Temple.
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Speaker 1: So the I'll give the hut of the short answer
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Speaker 1: first is that what we know from scripture is that
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Speaker 1: all we know is that the third Temple is in
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Speaker 1: existence at the midpoint of the tribulation the seventy to
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Speaker 1: big of Daniel, because of Matthew twenty four fifteen where
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Speaker 1: and Daniel line twenty seven, where Jesus says, when you
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Speaker 1: see the abomination of desolations standing in the Holy Place.
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Speaker 1: That's a very specific phraseology referring to a physical temple.
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Speaker 1: So that's all we know. So we don't know the temple.
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Speaker 1: Could have been there for ten years, could have been
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Speaker 1: there for three months. We don't know exactly the tiding.
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Speaker 1: We just know that by the middle of the of
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Speaker 1: the the seventy big of Daniel, according to Daniel nine
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Speaker 1: twenty seven, and the middle of the week he stops
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Speaker 1: the sacrifice is offering. So that implies that they have
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Speaker 1: at least been going on. So in that sense, there
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Speaker 1: isn't a time e factor. But I do I have
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Speaker 1: that the you that in Daniel Vine twenty seven that
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Speaker 1: when it says he shall confirm or he shall actually
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Speaker 1: literally in hibrie, it says he will cause to prevail
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Speaker 1: the covenant for the many for a week, for this
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Speaker 1: seven year period, and then in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: week he stops it. So I think that's in reference
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Speaker 1: to the and so in that regard, when the Antichrist
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Speaker 1: comes on the scene, he's going to cause to prevail
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Speaker 1: for the many. It's very clear La raviemon and Hebrew
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Speaker 1: for the Jewish people. So I think that's really when
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Speaker 1: he establishes that. I think in the land of Israel,
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Speaker 1: that is going to be I think the point where
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Speaker 1: maybe the temple's there before, we don't know, but that's
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Speaker 1: going to be where he's going to have some sort
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Speaker 1: of influence where that Mosaic system, the laws that the
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Speaker 1: temple requirements, because when you ask about the temple, all
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Speaker 1: the regulations that that's where it's in the Law of Moses.
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Speaker 1: So that's the covenant, It's in the Mosaic Covenant. So
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Speaker 1: when he does that, he's going to cause it to
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Speaker 1: prevail and I think for the Jewish people. So that's
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Speaker 1: going to be broad. And so that being the case,
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Speaker 1: the question comes back to, you know, is he going
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Speaker 1: to be the one that gives him permission somehow He's
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Speaker 1: going to have some influence in whatever that means. Does
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Speaker 1: he have a political position. It seems that he does
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Speaker 1: in some way that he is able to in a
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Speaker 1: religious position. So the other question, well, well, I want
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Speaker 1: to get back to the Redhefferson, don't let us get
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Speaker 1: off that. But let me just say that the Holy
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Speaker 1: Place is not necessarily only related to the Temple because
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Speaker 1: the Tabernacle. Remember, the Tabernacle came first and there was
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Speaker 1: the Holy Holies in the Holy Place there. So some
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Speaker 1: people theorize that when he comes along, the first thing
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Speaker 1: that's going to come up boom, they're going to put
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Speaker 1: up a tabernacle, and then they'll build a permanent structure
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Speaker 1: after that. Because we do know Inzsach of Desun's two
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Speaker 1: that it does say temple, which is now us in Greek.
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Speaker 1: So it's not the tabernacle, it's not the tent. He's
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Speaker 1: definitely dwelling in there. And then we also see Revelation
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Speaker 1: eleven that measure the temple and knows that worship there,
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Speaker 1: So you see that aspect. So when will it come
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Speaker 1: somehow in the thing. I think it'll come post rapture.
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Speaker 1: I think it'll come after he causes the Covenant, the
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Speaker 1: Mosaic covenment to prevail, and that'll set them permission. I
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Speaker 1: think the other thing, too, is to mension of the
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Speaker 1: Red Heifer, is the language is very technical here, because
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Speaker 1: first of all, the red heifer is not a burnt offering.
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Speaker 1: In the Viticus chapter one, you see the kind of
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Speaker 1: the descriptions of the burn offering, But in numbers nineteen
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Speaker 1: where you see the red heifer show up, it's not
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Speaker 1: considered a burn offering. And here's why. Well, mano, it
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Speaker 1: isn't the red effer burnt. Yeah, it is burnt, but
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Speaker 1: a burnt offering is burnt on the altar. And so
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Speaker 1: this is why many of the rabbis today will say
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Speaker 1: quite clearly that the red heifer is not a sacrifice.
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Speaker 1: And actually some of them will get really upset, like
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Speaker 1: you Christians, You guys don't even know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: It's not a sacrifice, so it's not it's not a sacrifice.
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Speaker 1: It is a ceremonial offering which is burnt, but it's
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Speaker 1: not a burnt offering because it happens outside of the camp.
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Speaker 1: And so in this regard to with what's happening there,
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Speaker 1: according to rabbinic tradition, which is not in the Bible,
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Speaker 1: it happens it has to happen on the Mount of Olives,
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Speaker 1: because that's what happened in the first century when they
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Speaker 1: wrote this, And so it happens not on the temple mount,
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Speaker 1: which is where the alter would be. It happens across
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Speaker 1: the valley over on the temple on the Mount of Olives.
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Speaker 1: So that's important as we have the discussions about this,
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Speaker 1: that we get it right.
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this kind of a follow
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Speaker 2: up to Michael's question. So after the supposed read here
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Speaker 2: for ceremony of a couple of years ago, now there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of talme out there about these ashes
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Speaker 2: that were gathered there and the properties that these ashes
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Speaker 2: have that could have, I guess, healing powers and miraculous powers.
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Speaker 2: Have you heard much talk on that? And if so,
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Speaker 2: where are they getting this information from? Is this scriptural?
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Speaker 2: Are we seeing this anywhere in our Bible that red
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Speaker 2: effer ashes have any type of healing or miraculous powers.
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Speaker 1: So there's nothing, absolutely nothing in the Bible that says
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Speaker 1: it has healing powers. For sure in numbers nineteen they're
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Speaker 1: not for purification purposes. So you would take the ashes
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Speaker 1: of the rehelf for after it was burned, you'd make
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Speaker 1: it of water, and then the priest if you were unclean,
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Speaker 1: maybe your uncle died or your mom died and you
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Speaker 1: became unclean, ritually impure, you would go to Jerusalem. The
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Speaker 1: priest would crinkul you, you know, third day, seventh day,
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Speaker 1: and then you become ritually pure, and then you could
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Speaker 1: participate in the sacrifices or the festivals. But nothing in
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Speaker 1: the Bible, certainly about healing. Now, I can tell you
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Speaker 1: that I talked to Byron Sinson on the phone, so
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Speaker 1: I'm not giving you any I'm telling you this is
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Speaker 1: first hand information. I'm not spreading rumors. He told me
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Speaker 1: that after they performed the ceremony of July first, that
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Speaker 1: there were some rabbis that were there. There was some
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Speaker 1: rabbis from the Temple Institute, and the Temple Institute is
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Speaker 1: made up of many, many rabbis, so that just because
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Speaker 1: you have rabbis that were affiliated with the Temple Institute
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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that they're there on official capacity or
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Speaker 1: that any of their comments are official of the Temple
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Speaker 1: Institute itself, because the Temple Institute itself has distanced itself
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Speaker 1: from the actions that happened at this ceremony that was
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Speaker 1: conducted by Byron Stenson and the Bonet Israel group on
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Speaker 1: July first, in Samaria, So it wasn't even on the
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Speaker 1: it wasn't on the Temple bount or I wasn't on
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Speaker 1: the Mount of Olives. And I remember talking to Byron
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Speaker 1: and I said, Byron, you know, do you know that
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Speaker 1: the rabbis are not going to accept this? And he said,
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Speaker 1: you know, Mono, I know, he said, and my goal.
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Speaker 1: I said, well, what was your motive? And he said, well,
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Speaker 1: my motive was to follow the Bible. And so the
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Speaker 1: Bible doesn't originally there's no doubt that the first redheifer
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Speaker 1: ceremony was not on the Mount of Olives, right, It
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Speaker 1: was maybe in the in the it was in the
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Speaker 1: in the wilderness even right, So you're talking way far
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Speaker 1: away from Jerusalem. So he said, we chose Samaria near
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Speaker 1: Shiloh because that's where the Tabernacle stood for three centuries.
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Speaker 1: So he said, we chose to offer the ceremony there
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Speaker 1: in order to follow the Bible, in order to kind
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Speaker 1: of push and push along the idea of the Temple
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Speaker 1: institute doing it on there. So he goes, I know,
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Speaker 1: we're going to probably do another one. So but what
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Speaker 1: he did say, he said, Mono, after we collected the ashes,
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Speaker 1: there were certain he had given them to, you know,
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Speaker 1: certain people, they kind of shared them. I guess he
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Speaker 1: said there were certain people that made claims that they
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Speaker 1: felt healed from the ashes, and he just said, I'm
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Speaker 1: just telling you what people told me. So I can't
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Speaker 1: I obviously can't bet it. I don't really have an
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Speaker 1: opinion in that sense. But again from a biblical perspective, nod.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a lot of information going on, but
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Speaker 2: that was question number one, and I'll just add to it.
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Speaker 2: You know, we see institutions like the Temple Institute out,
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Speaker 2: you know, their whole purpose for being is to construct
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Speaker 2: that temple. So a lot of people ask, you know,
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Speaker 2: will a third temple even be constructed? I mean the
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Speaker 2: answer is obviously to yes, it will be constructed. It's
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Speaker 2: just a matter when, right, and you hold the u
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Speaker 2: that it's going to happen after the rapture and that's
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Speaker 2: going to be part of the Daniel nine to twenty.
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Speaker 1: Which which yeah, it's not required. That's just yeah, where
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Speaker 1: I'm leaning, that's where you're linking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to lean more toward that it's not
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Speaker 2: a requirement that it would happen after the rapture. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it could certainly happen prior to the retrim It's hard
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Speaker 2: to see that right now now, but I mean, if
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Speaker 2: one of these rockets falls on the mosque, then we
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Speaker 2: can certainly see that the building of this temple could
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Speaker 2: possibly happen prior to the rapt if we're still here and.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt, like in my red Hpper book. That's
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Speaker 1: the reason I wrote the book is because I wanted
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Speaker 1: to give when it does happen, when the Redheffer ceremony
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Speaker 1: eventually does happen, I wanted people to have a resource
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Speaker 1: to come back and say, well, how do I now,
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Speaker 1: how do I understand this? Because there's been a a
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Speaker 1: lot of I guess focus on the five and but
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Speaker 1: also if you go to our website and you just
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Speaker 1: go to propswatches dot com slash temple, I made it
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Speaker 1: real easy. There are people, again our brothers and sisters
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Speaker 1: in Christ that don't necessarily take a futurist view of
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Speaker 1: revelation or the other. They're very adamant that there is
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Speaker 1: going to be no temple. And so what I did
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Speaker 1: there is I just asked a question, are we are
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Speaker 1: we crazy to believe that a future physical temple is
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Speaker 1: going to be built, and so I provided all the
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Speaker 1: biblical evidence. But secondly, a lot of people will say, well,
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Speaker 1: this is a new view. This started with Darby, this
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Speaker 1: idea of the temple, and that's simply not true. And
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Speaker 1: so I gave tons of tons of information there about
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Speaker 1: church history. I'm early church fathers who are saying quite
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Speaker 1: clearly that a physical temple is going to be rebuilt,
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Speaker 1: which is fascinating to be way early. So the people
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Speaker 1: that claim that this is from Darby are just they
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Speaker 1: just don't know the facts. And so I provided that
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Speaker 1: web page so that people could get the facts that
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Speaker 1: we're not making this up. It's been part of church
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Speaker 1: history for two thousand years. Yeah, that's it.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna move on to question number two because
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Speaker 2: that was just one and we're fifteen minutes another.
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Speaker 1: Oh, we've got to hurry that long winded man.
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Speaker 2: So this question is specifically for Mondo Gonzales from Bible
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Speaker 2: Truth Drops. If someone like Tucker Carlson believes in Christ
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Speaker 2: but it's not living in Christ, does he go with us?
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Speaker 2: In the rapture, Jesus said few will find the door,
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Speaker 2: and that path is narrow. Are billions of people going
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Speaker 2: with us because they believe in Jesus. James, good on you,
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Speaker 2: mate for believing. But so do demons, and at least
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Speaker 2: they shudder. But Tucker has no fear of God before
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Speaker 2: his eyes, and he certainly doesn't shudder. Is he saved
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Speaker 2: because he claims Christ?
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Speaker 1: So this is the standard, the standard question. And what
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Speaker 1: we do know is as James makes the comment, he
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Speaker 1: talks about faith, and he talks about works, and he
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Speaker 1: talks about being justified through works, and that I think
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Speaker 1: his his his version of justification is a sliver different
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Speaker 1: than Paul's justification of the boot of Roman. So Paul, Paul,
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Speaker 1: and James don't contradict each other by any means. But
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Speaker 1: James is simply talking about practical living. And so when
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Speaker 1: he says, you know, even the demons believe, the demons
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Speaker 1: have do they have faith in Jesus? See, that's different, right,
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Speaker 1: they're not. The demons certainly acknowledge God's existence, but they
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Speaker 1: recognize it, but they don't submit to it. And so
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Speaker 1: that's kind of where James is going in the sense of, Hey,
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Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want, and James isn't. He's following.
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Speaker 1: I think his brother right, his brother's Jesus, and so
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Speaker 1: he's following his half brother Jesus's comments in Matthew seven
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Speaker 1: twenty one through twenty three, where Jesus said, many will
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Speaker 1: say to me on that day, Lord Lord, and he's
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Speaker 1: going to say, I depart from me. I never knew you,
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Speaker 1: you know, And so he gives that. So Jesus is
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Speaker 1: introducing right in Matthew seven, and this this category of
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Speaker 1: those who profess to know him. They call him lord,
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Speaker 1: but they are their actions are not reflective of their profession.
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Speaker 1: And so in the same way, we know that we're
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Speaker 1: saved by faith, not by works. Again, works don't save us,
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Speaker 1: Crystal clar Iphesians two, eight and nine. But Paul also
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Speaker 1: speaks on this in Titus one sixteen, where he says
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Speaker 1: there are many who profess to know God, but in
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Speaker 1: their works they deny him. So there's a complete consistency.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know Tucker's faith, because this person says,
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Speaker 1: if someone like Tucker believes, but it's not living in Christ,
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Speaker 1: I don't. That's a real hard distinction because this person
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Speaker 1: now is looking at Tucker and saying, based on his actions,
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Speaker 1: he has faith, he believes, but he's not in Christ,
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Speaker 1: so he's making a separation there, and so he would
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Speaker 1: kind of lean towards this idea. Is he gonna go
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Speaker 1: with this in the rapture? This is what I know
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Speaker 1: tewond Timothy says clear that God knows those who are
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Speaker 1: His and that I take comfort in that that if
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Speaker 1: someone has leans on Jesus for their salvation, God knows that,
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Speaker 1: and so I always I always rephrase it and say, look,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what somebody says, it matters if God,
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Speaker 1: if they're saved from God's perspective, like God looks at
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Speaker 1: and says, oh, yeah, this is my child, one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent of my child. They're going in the rapture. But
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Speaker 1: Jesus said, there's gonna be many that aren't that make professions,
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Speaker 1: and so that this isn't I can't. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: To Tucker personally, I don't know. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: Christians who are genuine Christians who I know who have
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Speaker 1: acted worse than Tucker does. So at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, it's all individualized. God knows those who are His,
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Speaker 1: and so I don't spend a lot of time honestly
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Speaker 1: at trying to make assessments because I don't have all
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Speaker 1: the information. I don't read hearts, so.
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Speaker 2: Whenever I read this question too, I see this is
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Speaker 2: more of a partial rapture type question potentially. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: whenever you have those that are not living in Christ,
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Speaker 2: well they're they believe in Christ, they're Christians, they're saved,
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Speaker 2: but if they're not walking that road, that land exactly.
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Speaker 2: It's at that point when you start putting, you know,
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Speaker 2: people's lives on display, especially when you look at like
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Speaker 2: celebrities and things like that. I mean, we can cherry pick, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, if any of our lives exactly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it appears that this guy may not be
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Speaker 2: walking right, but I mean we never know what's going
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Speaker 2: on in their hearts. Only Tucker and the Lord knows,
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Speaker 2: you know, his heart. I mean, you could certainly look
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Speaker 2: at his actions and say, yeah, I wouldn't do that,
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Speaker 2: but you know that doesn't mean that he's not saved.
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Speaker 2: And if he is truly saved, I mean he will
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Speaker 2: certainly go with us in the rapture. There is no
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Speaker 2: partial rapture. I mean, if you're that's the quintessential workspace salvation.
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Speaker 2: At that point, if you say that you're not going
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Speaker 2: to go in the rapture because you're not walking right
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Speaker 2: with God. Because I mean, I can at least point
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Speaker 2: out a couple of times during the day where I fall.
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Speaker 1: And if you just took that, if you recorded that
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Speaker 1: three minutes and you put it up, and that was
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Speaker 1: now the characterization of your entire life, Yeah, that'd be
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Speaker 1: really unfair because we all screw up. And so I'm
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Speaker 1: glad that we're saved by grace through faith. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Jesus said's finished for believers, and so in the same way,
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Speaker 1: I think this is a this is a it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a question, but I think it's kind of a question.
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Speaker 1: I've been asked it so many times as a pastor,
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Speaker 1: and I think it so it says, is he saved
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Speaker 1: because he claims Christ. Well again, according to Jesus, many
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Speaker 1: profess to know him and claim him and call him Lord.
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Speaker 1: That he doesn't know them. So I can't make an
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Speaker 1: assessment of anybody. I can't make an assessment of anybody. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I think that's so when someone asked me like
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Speaker 1: this or anybody, Wanda, do you think someone says I
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Speaker 1: don't know? Yeah, I mean, all I know is what
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Speaker 1: Jesus said, and I can quote Jesus, but at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, the Lord knows that's true.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So we definitely want to thank you for submitting
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Speaker 2: that question. And we're going to move on to the
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Speaker 2: next one. And this is one that really caught my attention.
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Speaker 2: Nothing in culture. Yeah, that's a fun question. So in
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Speaker 2: the reference to the rapture, is the meeting in the
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Speaker 2: clouds a reference to meeting here on Earth or somewhere
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Speaker 2: outside of our view. When the Bible says caught up,
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Speaker 2: I think directly above what is what about those that
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Speaker 2: are in outer space, you know, on the International Space Station,
18:47
Speaker 2: or even if we potentially occupy the Moon or even Mars,
18:51
Speaker 2: you know Elon Muskle won't occupy Mars. But if this
18:55
Speaker 2: meeting is on Earth, then that wouldn't necessarily mean that
18:59
Speaker 2: they're called up because they would be brought back down,
19:01
Speaker 2: especially if they're on the International Space Station. If the
19:05
Speaker 2: meeting is in the clouds here on the Earth. That's
19:07
Speaker 2: basically the question.
19:08
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you, well, I really appreciate the
19:13
Speaker 1: creativity on this. You're thinking outside the box. This is awesome.
19:17
Speaker 1: There's a couple of things as relates to the word
19:20
Speaker 1: Harpodso if you if you just study the word harpodso
19:23
Speaker 1: in Greek it it has the idea of being seized
19:29
Speaker 1: by authority. Some people say force, but that doesn't necessarily
19:33
Speaker 1: it just you you were seized by somebody else, Like
19:37
Speaker 1: Paul was grabbed. He was he was seized and dragged
19:41
Speaker 1: to and he wasn't dragged up right, So if you
19:44
Speaker 1: look in the book Acts as it writs to Paul
19:46
Speaker 1: being dragged or others, he wasn't dragged up. So it's
19:50
Speaker 1: this idea of being grabbed by outside of your control,
19:54
Speaker 1: and at the rapture we're going, I mean, we're not
19:57
Speaker 1: gonna stop. We can't stop it when the Lord comes
19:59
Speaker 1: to take us. That's really the phraseology. So if you
20:04
Speaker 1: look at the entire word, it doesn't necessarily need to
20:07
Speaker 1: be up vertically. Even though we believe that Jesus said
20:11
Speaker 1: he's going to come and receive us un to himself
20:13
Speaker 1: and take us to the Father's house in John fourteen.
20:15
Speaker 1: So in the same way, the mention here is as
20:19
Speaker 1: well as at the clouds. If I encourage you to
20:22
Speaker 1: do a study at the clouds, cloud or clouds in
20:25
Speaker 1: the Bible, it's pretty fascinating where even going back to
20:28
Speaker 1: way early on in the book of Exodus, where the
20:32
Speaker 1: elders they our Moses went up into the cloud on
20:34
Speaker 1: Mount Sinai. So the cloud is very much associated with
20:38
Speaker 1: God's direct presence. We see this in the Transfiguration Luke
20:42
Speaker 1: nine Matthew seventeen, where as well a cloud of dark
20:47
Speaker 1: cloud overshadowed or bright cloud overshadowed them on the mount
20:49
Speaker 1: of our Mount Herman in that sense. And then we
20:52
Speaker 1: see of course in Act Chapter one, Jesus goes up,
20:56
Speaker 1: he descends into the cloud at the rapture first Us
20:58
Speaker 1: on four seventeen we go up into the clouds and
21:02
Speaker 1: Revolution eleven same thing. But if you're on Mars, you're
21:07
Speaker 1: there's still gonna be up direction. And so where where's
21:09
Speaker 1: Heaven at? Where's the Father's house? Is it outside of
21:12
Speaker 1: our solar system, our galaxy? Even so either way, I mean,
21:17
Speaker 1: if you think about it, let's say that let's say
21:21
Speaker 1: that Heaven is in the celestial pole of Earth. Okay,
21:27
Speaker 1: north they like the North Star. Well, so if you're
21:30
Speaker 1: living on the on the set in the North Pole,
21:32
Speaker 1: you're gonna go up right, You're gonna go But if
21:35
Speaker 1: you're on the south hole, are you gonna go through
21:38
Speaker 1: the Earth first? So are you gonna have to go
21:40
Speaker 1: up and then go all the way around you know,
21:43
Speaker 1: the whole you know, uh sphere of the Earth to
21:46
Speaker 1: get around. So I think it's interesting. So either way,
21:50
Speaker 1: whether you're in space, because you could be on the
21:52
Speaker 1: other side, right, because Heaven is a direction, I imagine, right,
21:56
Speaker 1: a specific direction. So somebody around somewhere is gonna going
22:00
Speaker 1: to go up and then around, or if you're on
22:02
Speaker 1: Mars or space station, you're still gonna you see what
22:05
Speaker 1: I'm saying, there's still I don't think we This is
22:09
Speaker 1: where we run the risk of hyperliteralizing, and we don't
22:13
Speaker 1: want to do that because again the word hypotzer doesn't
22:15
Speaker 1: necessarily mean up. But we do know wherever it happens,
22:20
Speaker 1: God's glory is going to be there, and the clouds
22:22
Speaker 1: will be there and we will enter into those. And
22:24
Speaker 1: then once we get into clouds, is it a zapp
22:27
Speaker 1: that he are we? How fast are we flying through
22:29
Speaker 1: the galaxy or the Solar System get to Heaven? It's true,
22:32
Speaker 1: don't know. So I think we just we have to
22:34
Speaker 1: be careful not to hyperliteralize it. And that's even though
22:37
Speaker 1: I like literal I'm a literal guy. Oh yeah, absolutely,
22:40
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that question that comes from Josh. And
22:43
Speaker 1: actually I know, Josh, oh, I'm certain that that came
22:46
Speaker 1: from his child because of those child as well. That's
22:48
Speaker 1: a good time.
22:49
Speaker 2: But you know, but I love those kind of questions
22:51
Speaker 2: because that lets us know that, especially if it comes
22:53
Speaker 2: from a child, that child's growing up in a good
22:56
Speaker 2: home and thinking, really really thinking and wanting to know
22:59
Speaker 2: these answers. So I want to thank Josh for that question.
23:02
Speaker 2: So we're gonna move on to the next one of
23:03
Speaker 2: this is from Alexandria, and she wants to know what
23:07
Speaker 2: the rapid advancement of AI driven surveillance systems like facial recognition,
23:11
Speaker 2: behavioral prediction, and real time data aggregation, how close are
23:15
Speaker 2: we to a fully integrated identity system where access to commerce,
23:19
Speaker 2: travel and communication is unified under a single digital profile.
23:25
Speaker 1: Well, let's step back for a moment and give why
23:29
Speaker 1: she would even ask that question, because what we do
23:33
Speaker 1: know is in Revelation thirteen, you have you have several
23:37
Speaker 1: things here. You have a political element of the beast,
23:40
Speaker 1: you have an economic element, and you have a religious
23:43
Speaker 1: element where they're gonna worshiping the dragon and the beast.
23:47
Speaker 1: So this comes with the idea of that no one
23:50
Speaker 1: can buy or sell except without the mark, and so
23:54
Speaker 1: it makes great sense. I mean, this has been part
23:56
Speaker 1: of the conversation for decades, probably even a century to
24:02
Speaker 1: some degree of understanding that the easiest way to implement
24:07
Speaker 1: that sort of system where you have unlimited kind of
24:10
Speaker 1: surveillance and power and control is through a digital system.
24:15
Speaker 1: Getting away from money, which can be you know, you
24:18
Speaker 1: can have a black market, or you can even barter
24:20
Speaker 1: in some ways, which might always be there to some degree.
24:23
Speaker 1: But this idea of AI driven surveillance, So that's the
24:28
Speaker 1: biblical reason why we think that's coming. And of course
24:33
Speaker 1: since it's been talked about again for decades now, we
24:35
Speaker 1: see it coming. So to answer a question directly, is
24:38
Speaker 1: it depends on the country you're in, because man, there's
24:41
Speaker 1: there's over fifty countries right now that already have digital
24:45
Speaker 1: things in place, digital systems in place. It is not
24:49
Speaker 1: a worldwide system yet, and a lot of the countries,
24:52
Speaker 1: like the United States, are are lagging. And that's probably
24:55
Speaker 1: because we generally have resistance here now, even in a
25:00
Speaker 1: America if you go to some of the bluer states,
25:03
Speaker 1: they're going to be a little bit more eager on this.
25:06
Speaker 1: But we know if you go worldwide Australia, I mean
25:08
Speaker 1: thinking about some of these countries like Nigeria, Nigeria that's
25:11
Speaker 1: in Africa very advanced in their digital Estonia in Europe,
25:15
Speaker 1: so Europe and the UK they've been talking about there
25:18
Speaker 1: is in fact Starmar just came out not too long
25:20
Speaker 1: ago where the Prime Minister said that if you didn't
25:23
Speaker 1: have the digital idea, you couldn't work. I mean, that's
25:26
Speaker 1: what we expect, right. So in answering the question how
25:29
Speaker 1: close are we well to a fully integrated it depends
25:33
Speaker 1: on the country. Some countries are absolutely like almost they're
25:39
Speaker 1: a fully full integrations. Others are There's a lot of
25:41
Speaker 1: countries that are lagging, and so who knows. But what
25:44
Speaker 1: you do see is most of the countries that are
25:48
Speaker 1: lagging are still there in motion. So all the countries
25:52
Speaker 1: are moving in that direction. And I would say that
25:56
Speaker 1: for any of these countries, some of them, like some
26:01
Speaker 1: of them in like Estonia, they've had their digital systems
26:04
Speaker 1: for like twenty years. So you think about that, it's
26:05
Speaker 1: pretty amazing but to get to where there's going to
26:10
Speaker 1: be individualized countries and then it's going to be integrated worldwide.
26:14
Speaker 1: So that's the question how close are we well. I
26:19
Speaker 1: tend to think that most of the countries that are lagging,
26:22
Speaker 1: they have had they have pilot pilot programs, and most
26:26
Speaker 1: of them have already said that they want to be
26:28
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven. They're trying to get it dialed in.
26:31
Speaker 1: So I tend to go back to like a twenty
26:34
Speaker 1: thirty in the sense of not that there's anything magical
26:37
Speaker 1: about it, but just in looking out these individual countries
26:40
Speaker 1: have to get it dialed in before like let's say,
26:43
Speaker 1: the UN or there's some sort of agreement or need
26:46
Speaker 1: to integrate them. And as we know, remember that the
26:50
Speaker 1: Mark of the Beast itself is not implemented until the
26:54
Speaker 1: midpoint of the seventies week of Daniel, So even there,
26:57
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the process of the first
27:00
Speaker 1: half of the tribulation period, is that the anti crisis
27:03
Speaker 1: on the scene, but he doesn't have unlimited power yet.
27:06
Speaker 1: He's consolidating his political base and he's going out to conquer.
27:11
Speaker 1: You know, that's what revelations success. But in that first half,
27:15
Speaker 1: there's consolidation going there, a political consolidation. Of course, you
27:19
Speaker 1: have the Harlot there as well. So if that's the case,
27:23
Speaker 1: the question is we might not see all this fully
27:25
Speaker 1: integrated before the rapture happens. That could be what takes
27:28
Speaker 1: three and a half years of the first half of
27:30
Speaker 1: the tribulation before it is fully integrated worldwide?
27:34
Speaker 2: In relation thirteen in the middle exactly, because that's when
27:36
Speaker 2: the system of revelation thirteen really kicks off.
27:39
Speaker 1: Is that the Midway town.
27:40
Speaker 2: That's what causes you know, the Jews basically flee into
27:44
Speaker 2: the wilderness. Now, as far as it pertains to what
27:47
Speaker 2: we see going on in the world right now technologically,
27:49
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned twenty thirty. I'm working on an article
27:52
Speaker 2: series right now that's going to touch on twenty thirty.
27:55
Speaker 2: There are fifty plus initiatives worldwide that target the date
27:59
Speaker 2: of twenty five, and it seems like every day I'm
28:03
Speaker 2: seeing new articles coming out that reference twenty thirty. Just today,
28:06
Speaker 2: I shared an article on the substack and on our
28:09
Speaker 2: Facebook that was about NASA and wanting to target nuclear
28:14
Speaker 2: reactors on the Moon and the target date for that
28:16
Speaker 2: is twenty thirty. Yeah, So twenty thirty is definitely a
28:19
Speaker 2: key date. But when we're looking at the technological aspect
28:22
Speaker 2: of what's going on. Just in spring of this year,
28:26
Speaker 2: spring of twenty twenty six, over sixty five airports started
28:29
Speaker 2: integrating more advanced biometric identification programs within the airport's TSA.
28:35
Speaker 1: I can tell you I just saw. I was just
28:36
Speaker 1: out of the country last week, and when I came back,
28:40
Speaker 1: I said, well, do I need my password? They said no,
28:42
Speaker 1: we just need your face. Yes, I walked up, they
28:44
Speaker 1: took a picture of my face and that was it.
28:46
Speaker 1: I didn't have to show my path. It was amazing.
28:48
Speaker 2: They already know who you are before you get across
28:49
Speaker 2: the gate because of the cameras there. You know you
28:52
Speaker 2: mentioned the European Union. We're seeing I think just today
28:56
Speaker 2: or just recently within the last week, they introduced the
29:00
Speaker 2: Your Age Verification app. We're starting to see a lot
29:03
Speaker 2: of states start to talk about age verification. They're doing
29:07
Speaker 2: it in the sense of this is for safety, because
29:10
Speaker 2: we want to prevent kids from getting onto websites that
29:12
Speaker 2: they shouldn't get onto. And I mean, who wouldn't be
29:15
Speaker 2: on board for that? Who wouldn't want to be on
29:16
Speaker 2: board for a kid not being able to get onto
29:19
Speaker 2: a Knoughty website basically, right, you don't want to get
29:22
Speaker 2: onto that. But we know that eventually that this is
29:26
Speaker 2: going to be used against us. We know that online
29:30
Speaker 2: anonymity is basically being taken away because if you have
29:33
Speaker 2: to do online age verification, what does that mean where
29:36
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to put your ib on there? And
29:39
Speaker 2: everybody that has any kind of sense of doing anything online,
29:44
Speaker 2: you've had to go through the process of verifying yourself
29:47
Speaker 2: by taking a picture of your driver's license and putting
29:49
Speaker 2: it on you know, uploading it into the system. Absolutely,
29:53
Speaker 2: So eventually that's going to go to a completely digitized
29:56
Speaker 2: system where you don't have to worry about that anymore.
29:58
Speaker 2: You just need to take that screenshot out of your
30:01
Speaker 2: face on the computer, or even the thumb print because
30:03
Speaker 2: if you notice now tons of computers they come with
30:06
Speaker 2: a little thumb print reader. Right, So you're already seeing
30:09
Speaker 2: that being implemented in the technology that we have in
30:12
Speaker 2: our own house.
30:12
Speaker 1: Well, even like for certain countries or even flights, I
30:17
Speaker 1: could take my phone and I put it on my
30:19
Speaker 1: passport and it reads the chip inside the passport, and
30:23
Speaker 1: so my phone I was like, I never knew my
30:25
Speaker 1: phone had the ability, but yeah, it read it and boom,
30:27
Speaker 1: it brought up all my information just like that. Probably
30:29
Speaker 1: similar to what you have on on a credit card
30:31
Speaker 1: with the chip in it. But it was able to
30:33
Speaker 1: do it. Boom done. It didn't have to scan anything,
30:37
Speaker 1: it just I just touched it there.
30:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, though, I think technologically we're we're
30:42
Speaker 2: right there. We're getting so close to what it is there.
30:45
Speaker 2: There are some areas of it, I mean, and each
30:47
Speaker 2: day we see new things being coming out that we
30:51
Speaker 2: know that it's going to be used in this B system.
30:53
Speaker 2: Earlier this week, we talked about the ghost murmur technology
30:56
Speaker 2: that was used to locate the pilot that was lost
30:59
Speaker 2: there in Iran. I mean just five weeks ago, we
31:03
Speaker 2: would have never imagined something like that. I mean two
31:04
Speaker 2: weeks ago, we would have never imagined that type of
31:07
Speaker 2: technology existed. But here it is, and we know that
31:10
Speaker 2: that type of technology is going to be used in
31:12
Speaker 2: the BET system, because when your heartbeat could betray your
31:15
Speaker 2: own location, when you say, oh, I'm just gonna, you know,
31:19
Speaker 2: hide it out, I'm going to I'm gonna hide off
31:21
Speaker 2: the grid. I'm gonna go live in the woods whatever.
31:24
Speaker 2: I mean, Well, if they can locate you based off
31:26
Speaker 2: of your distinct unique heartbeat, I mean, we're getting close, man,
31:30
Speaker 2: I'm telling it. It's getting crazy. So we certainly want
31:33
Speaker 2: to thank you for asking that question. And let's see,
31:38
Speaker 2: we've got to move on to the next one. We
31:40
Speaker 2: got Leslie and Liam, so they ask, are the increase
31:44
Speaker 2: in you unusual cosmic events connected to Luke twenty one
31:48
Speaker 2: twenty five And there seems to be more asteroids and
31:51
Speaker 2: fireballs that have been reported recently. We've seen that on
31:54
Speaker 2: the news.
31:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of ways to answer this, you know,
31:58
Speaker 1: Luke twenty twenty five. Jesus makes the comment that there
32:01
Speaker 1: would be signs in the heavens and other things, which
32:03
Speaker 1: of course I love to watch. I would say though,
32:07
Speaker 1: that what's happening recently is the technology to recognize or
32:14
Speaker 1: to discover a lot of these asteroids. Again, Apofue was
32:18
Speaker 1: discovered in twenty h four, so that's a long time ago.
32:21
Speaker 1: But there's a new telescope that just came on in
32:24
Speaker 1: the last few months called the Versi Rubin telescope. It's
32:26
Speaker 1: down in South America, and this is one of the
32:29
Speaker 1: largest and most advanced telescopes that's ever been built, and
32:35
Speaker 1: it has a like, what was it a three thousand
32:39
Speaker 1: megapixel camera digital camera. I would love to have that
32:42
Speaker 1: in armservatory. But so it's taking images of its scanning
32:47
Speaker 1: the entire sky every single night, and so every few
32:52
Speaker 1: nights it gets the whole sky. So it's just they
32:54
Speaker 1: talk about petabytes of information. So what that means though,
33:00
Speaker 1: is it's what it does is it'll it'll take these
33:02
Speaker 1: images and then of scanning, and then it'll compare with
33:07
Speaker 1: AI too. It'll compare it to another image that was
33:11
Speaker 1: let's say two weeks ago or three months ago, and
33:14
Speaker 1: then it's saying, hey, that little dot right there, that's
33:19
Speaker 1: that's that moved. That wasn't there three months ago. And
33:22
Speaker 1: so then it'll go back and it'll begin to look
33:24
Speaker 1: throughout the sky and it'll see, oh, this dot is
33:27
Speaker 1: moving out a certain trajectory, which again ends up being
33:29
Speaker 1: an asteroid. So the era of thousands and thousands of
33:35
Speaker 1: discoveries of asteroids which have been there the whole time.
33:37
Speaker 1: So this isn't anything new. I get that. That's probably
33:40
Speaker 1: the question is our increases Is this connected with an
33:45
Speaker 1: entime event, I would say no necessarily because the technology
33:50
Speaker 1: is more advanced now. And so I think as well,
33:53
Speaker 1: we're hearing about it because there's comments all the time.
33:54
Speaker 1: There's always comments. I mean, I could go out at
33:56
Speaker 1: any night and we've taken pictures of commets. There's always
33:59
Speaker 1: comments around. Some of them are in the Southern hemisphere,
34:01
Speaker 1: so we don't have access to them up here, but
34:04
Speaker 1: at any given time there's comments. Now, if you have
34:06
Speaker 1: a telescope and a camera, you can see those. Most
34:09
Speaker 1: of the comments that we don't seeese because they're so dim.
34:13
Speaker 1: Their magnitude is again very high in that regard. But
34:17
Speaker 1: so I think most of what Luke twenty one is
34:20
Speaker 1: describing is more in line with what you see in
34:24
Speaker 1: the Book of Revelation. So and I wrote an article
34:27
Speaker 1: on this because this is this came up last year,
34:30
Speaker 1: well two years ago now, in April of twenty twenty four,
34:32
Speaker 1: with the clips, and so if you go to profswatches
34:35
Speaker 1: dot com slash eclips again make it real easy, people
34:38
Speaker 1: can read the article there where I talk about what
34:40
Speaker 1: is in Genesis one fourteenth sixteen, the signs that the
34:44
Speaker 1: sun and the moon and the stars they're meant for
34:46
Speaker 1: signs and seasons and other things. So I just I
34:48
Speaker 1: go through that, I highlight all the details of what
34:51
Speaker 1: that means and also what it doesn't mean. And so
34:55
Speaker 1: ultimately I think one hundred percent I would say ninety
34:58
Speaker 1: nine to one hundred percent of what Jesus is describing
35:01
Speaker 1: twenty one is in reference to this seven year tribulation.
35:04
Speaker 1: And of course if you go to the book Revelation,
35:07
Speaker 1: you see something like a mountain falling, something like a torch.
35:11
Speaker 1: You see the sun and the moon going dark, stars
35:14
Speaker 1: going dark. It's pretty phenomenal. But I think that's more
35:17
Speaker 1: of what it is than rather seeing a comment right
35:20
Speaker 1: now or a fireball.
35:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I tend to agree with you on
35:23
Speaker 2: that because you look at Revelation six, the breaking of
35:25
Speaker 2: the Seal, you have the cosmic disturbances that are going
35:28
Speaker 2: to happen there. I certainly think the closer that we
35:31
Speaker 2: get to that timeframe of the breaking of the sixth Seal,
35:34
Speaker 2: which I believe doesn't happen until the beginning of the
35:37
Speaker 2: seven year tribulation period, I think the closer that we
35:40
Speaker 2: get to that period, I believe that we're going to
35:42
Speaker 2: start seeing more cosmic disturbances. So is that what we're
35:46
Speaker 2: seeing now. I mean, it's too early to say in
35:50
Speaker 2: that instance, because like you said, we can see so much.
35:52
Speaker 2: I know that I believe as of March of this year,
35:55
Speaker 2: there was more fireballs being seen in the sky than usual.
36:01
Speaker 2: Could that be related, you know, possibly. I'm not going
36:04
Speaker 2: to tie directly to Revelation six. We're not seeing the
36:07
Speaker 2: breaking of the six seal right now, obviously, but I
36:11
Speaker 2: do think that as we get closer to the timeframe
36:14
Speaker 2: of that which would happen during the tribulation, I think
36:16
Speaker 2: we're going to start seeing more and more cos we just.
36:20
Speaker 1: So. Yeah, And I think as we uh, there's no
36:23
Speaker 1: doubt that a lot of it has been in the news.
36:25
Speaker 1: And again I if things change, I'll be happy to
36:28
Speaker 1: change my view, you know, in the sense of but
36:31
Speaker 1: I think overall the news is more apt again, being
36:36
Speaker 1: following this for so long in my in my adult life,
36:40
Speaker 1: I've always been cognizant of the comments, in the amount
36:43
Speaker 1: of comments that are out there, but sometimes only the
36:46
Speaker 1: big ones get the news. Yeah, you're like, well, why
36:48
Speaker 1: ain't you talking about this one? This has been around
36:50
Speaker 1: for two years or whatever, or it's been making its way.
36:53
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes we can be victims of the media.
36:57
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you mentioned the pompous I believe what April the thirteenth,
37:02
Speaker 2: so we're right at three years, four less than three
37:05
Speaker 2: years from when it's supposed to make its pass. I
37:08
Speaker 2: think it's what twenty thousand miles Yeah, above theirs.
37:11
Speaker 1: I mean that you think about that. Some of our
37:12
Speaker 1: geo secretists or satellites are basically twenty four thousand miles out,
37:16
Speaker 1: which means they just they kind of follow their geosyncherness.
37:19
Speaker 1: That means they stay you know, as we rotate, they
37:21
Speaker 1: stay the same view. But that, I mean, this thing's
37:24
Speaker 1: going to come inside those I mean, that's that's pretty phenomenal.
37:28
Speaker 1: It is.
37:28
Speaker 2: We're going to maybe we can get some pictures.
37:30
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, A couple of stile our friends have. Yeah,
37:33
Speaker 1: we're still here. A couple of our fellow astrophotographers have
37:37
Speaker 1: gotten pictures of a pafice already, and which it gets
37:40
Speaker 1: pretty boring. You're looking it's a little dot alight because
37:43
Speaker 1: it's small. It's really small.
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Speaker 2: Well, good deal, we'll move on to the next one.
37:47
Speaker 2: Now this is more of a pastoral question, so you're
37:49
Speaker 2: the perfect person to answer this. So H L.
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Speaker 1: He asked.
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Speaker 2: He says, my pastor doesn't connect prophecy to current events.
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Speaker 2: Is this concerning?
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Speaker 1: And should I leave?
37:58
Speaker 2: That's just the short version of it.
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Speaker 1: He said.
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Speaker 2: I attend a church where where my pastor does not
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Speaker 2: take a position on the rapture. He doesn't talk about
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Speaker 2: Bible prophecy outside of whatever is in the Bible.
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Speaker 1: He preached.
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Speaker 2: He does preach through revelation, but he doesn't tie any
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Speaker 2: of this to current events or any of the news
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Speaker 2: that's happening in the world. For example, when, for example,
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Speaker 2: when we were in Revelation thirteen, he just read it.
38:20
Speaker 2: He told everyone that there was coming a day when
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Speaker 2: we would have when the world would have a mark
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Speaker 2: and not be able to participate in society, and then
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Speaker 2: moved on, and then he didn't discuss any of the
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Speaker 2: current technologies or possibilities. So my first question is what
38:34
Speaker 2: can I do to encourage or convince my pastor to
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Speaker 2: do to convince my pastor that things that we see
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Speaker 2: happening right now are relevant? And the second question is
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Speaker 2: this concerning? And should I find another church?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, these are very important questions. It's interesting that pastors,
38:53
Speaker 1: there's all different stripes of pastors. Some are more humble
38:59
Speaker 1: than others. But also many pastors take their position their
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Speaker 1: their I mean, God has called them. I would assume
39:09
Speaker 1: this for the sake of argument. God has called this
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Speaker 1: pastor to be a leader of the church and to
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Speaker 1: teach right, so he's gonna Many times pastors feel like, hey,
39:18
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I went to seminary, I got educated,
39:21
Speaker 1: I got trained, so I'm here and God has called
39:23
Speaker 1: me to protect the flock and to teach the flock. Okay,
39:26
Speaker 1: So that makes them sometimes very skeptical when when somebody
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Speaker 1: a lay person, which again I'm not into classes. I'm
39:36
Speaker 1: just telling you that psychology, somebody comes in and says, hey, pastor,
39:40
Speaker 1: look at this, and the pastor's and that's gonna be like, well, okay,
39:45
Speaker 1: I'll look at that. Maybe, But I also very very
39:48
Speaker 1: stand offish because I don't want to bring in any
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Speaker 1: potential false theology or newspaper exs as Jesus, which I respect, okay,
39:56
Speaker 1: but they're asking what can I do to encourage, well
39:58
Speaker 1: to convince. Well, that might be. It depends on the pastor.
40:01
Speaker 1: Some pastors are so strong minded that they're like, I'm
40:04
Speaker 1: the expert, You're not what I would say is that
40:07
Speaker 1: you know how you do that? What's the phraseology that
40:10
Speaker 1: you you win, you win more bees with honey or
40:14
Speaker 1: something like that. Or I would tell you go to
40:17
Speaker 1: your pastor and love him and be a friend. So
40:20
Speaker 1: love him no matter what, because then when he comes
40:23
Speaker 1: to love you back, he's going to be more in
40:26
Speaker 1: line to hear you and and not to think that
40:29
Speaker 1: you're trying to challenge him or whatever. Again, humility, there's
40:32
Speaker 1: different levels. So I'm not defending the crowd pastors, but
40:36
Speaker 1: so I would tell you if you're if you're trying
40:39
Speaker 1: to get away in there, here's the phraseology. I've seen
40:43
Speaker 1: this too. People don't care how much you know until
40:48
Speaker 1: they know how much you care. And that's that's actually
40:50
Speaker 1: this versus as a pastor myself. You know, sometimes you
40:54
Speaker 1: have to teach some hard things the scripture does, and
40:56
Speaker 1: so many times people don't want to hear that. But
40:59
Speaker 1: if they know that you care about him and you
41:01
Speaker 1: love on them in all the other days of the week,
41:03
Speaker 1: so that when you're there, you're in counseling and you
41:05
Speaker 1: have to speak some hard truth to them, but they
41:08
Speaker 1: know you care, they're more have to receive it. And
41:10
Speaker 1: that goes both ways. So I would encourage that is
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Speaker 1: this concerning. It is concerning, of course, because we want
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Speaker 1: people to teach the entire Council of God. In that regard.
41:20
Speaker 1: We see that Acts Chapter twenty, Paul says, teach the
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Speaker 1: whole council. The fact that he's teaching to revelation at all,
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Speaker 1: that's actually something to rejoice Overstely, So don't be too critical.
41:30
Speaker 1: I can just should I find another church. Look, what
41:33
Speaker 1: I would say to you is leaving a church is
41:37
Speaker 1: extremely It's an extremely important decision. Yes, And so I
41:43
Speaker 1: do not recommend leaving a church lightly for a couple
41:47
Speaker 1: of reasons. First of all, if you are interested in
41:50
Speaker 1: prophecy there, and you're one of the remnants, so to speak,
41:54
Speaker 1: in your church, why would you leave? It sounds like
41:57
Speaker 1: you're already you studying on your own. You don't need
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Speaker 1: this guy to teach you anything you can. There's like
42:03
Speaker 1: our all the stuff that we do, that's why we exist. Honestly,
42:05
Speaker 1: prophetsy watchers and others. The industries that we promote or
42:08
Speaker 1: partner with is we do this full time. We love eschatology,
42:12
Speaker 1: I'll love all the Bible, but certainly we're here to
42:14
Speaker 1: teach eschatology, so you can get your you can get
42:18
Speaker 1: your information from a commentary or from us or others,
42:23
Speaker 1: So you don't need your pastor to teach you about eschatology.
42:26
Speaker 1: But the second reason why I would tell you if
42:28
Speaker 1: he's preaching the gospel. Yes, that is the most important thing.
42:33
Speaker 1: And I would tell you again, if he's preaching the gospel,
42:38
Speaker 1: then stay there because if God has opened up your
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Speaker 1: heart to read and to learn again, you don't need
42:45
Speaker 1: him to learn about eschatology or prophecy. But think about
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Speaker 1: all the people that you can influence while you're in
42:52
Speaker 1: the church. So if you leave, you are a light
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Speaker 1: to Eschatology that has now left the church. And so
42:57
Speaker 1: as you just admitted, our friends that are there that
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Speaker 1: need to hear this truth are not going to get
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Speaker 1: her from this guy. So why would you leave the
43:05
Speaker 1: church and leave them without no lights? So very I
43:09
Speaker 1: went to a church probably about ten years ago, where
43:12
Speaker 1: I was an elder there, and of course I love
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Speaker 1: Eschatology the teaching in my whole life, my adult life.
43:19
Speaker 1: This pastor did not teach eschatology the man he preached
43:23
Speaker 1: the Gospel, and I didn't leave. In fact, what I
43:26
Speaker 1: did is he I started. I taught to youth group
43:30
Speaker 1: at the time, and I started teaching the Book Revelation.
43:32
Speaker 1: I started a small group. I started teaching the Book
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Speaker 1: of Revelation. So I'm like, so I'm what I'm telling
43:37
Speaker 1: you is I practiced what I'm preaching to you now.
43:41
Speaker 1: And you know what, he did not stop me from
43:43
Speaker 1: preaching any of that stuff. So I was teaching the
43:46
Speaker 1: youth all about the whole Book of Revelation. Said to
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Speaker 1: the big Daniel the small group. And now if you
43:51
Speaker 1: would have came and said, Mondo, I forbid you, then
43:54
Speaker 1: that would have been a problem. But he didn't. And
43:56
Speaker 1: so in the same I thought, I'm going to be
43:58
Speaker 1: a light here while I'm here, So I would tell you,
44:00
Speaker 1: do not find out of the church, continue to study
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Speaker 1: and be a light to those rounds. If he stops
44:04
Speaker 1: preaching the gospel, then you have a recently.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and one of the things that we
44:08
Speaker 2: run into pretty often some pastors just aren't including this.
44:12
Speaker 2: You know, eschatology is not their willhouse and they don't
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Speaker 2: love it, they don't like it. Yeah, whatever, it's so
44:17
Speaker 2: nervously I said, you know, the Gospel is the main thing.
44:20
Speaker 2: If they're preaching the main thing. Then that's absolutely what
44:23
Speaker 2: you need to be more concerned about. But if he
44:24
Speaker 2: allows you, and that may be something that you can do,
44:27
Speaker 2: start your own small group, you know, go in and
44:30
Speaker 2: ask the pastor, hey, can I start a Sunday school class?
44:33
Speaker 2: And that's what I actually do at my church. Yeah,
44:36
Speaker 2: I teach Sunday school at my church, and I have
44:38
Speaker 2: about twenty students in there, and we primarily taught Bible
44:41
Speaker 2: prophecy because this is where they get there, you know, fixed,
44:44
Speaker 2: so to speak. Now, of course, I'm privileged to go
44:46
Speaker 2: to a church where my pastor does preach on Bible prophecy,
44:49
Speaker 2: so and I understand that not a lot of people
44:51
Speaker 2: have that. So if you have somebody that's even willing
44:54
Speaker 2: to touch the Book of Revelation, I mean that tells
44:57
Speaker 2: me that he's at least he's going through the entire word.
45:01
Speaker 2: It seems like he may preach word for word on
45:04
Speaker 2: which is good. Maybe he's not tying everything to current events.
45:09
Speaker 2: I mean that's fine too. I mean, maybe ask him
45:12
Speaker 2: the question. Maybe if he's doing a series on Revelation
45:15
Speaker 2: on Sunday night, that's a perfect opportunity to say, hey,
45:19
Speaker 2: I got a question about this. You know, Sunday mornings
45:21
Speaker 2: may not always be the proper time that bust up
45:24
Speaker 2: in the middle of a sermon to be hey, I
45:25
Speaker 2: got a.
45:25
Speaker 1: Question about this.
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Speaker 2: Better not do that. The camera mess up.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
45:31
Speaker 2: But anyways, let's move on to the last question, right,
45:34
Speaker 2: and this is from Hannah. If Deuteronomy says not to
45:38
Speaker 2: add to God's word, how can there be a New Testament?
45:41
Speaker 2: And why are Enoch and Yasher left out?
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Speaker 1: Okay, great question. So this is the key here is
45:51
Speaker 1: if I would say this, there's a little bit of
45:56
Speaker 1: an inconsistency in the question, because how can we It's
46:03
Speaker 1: de Douonomy chapter four, verse two, you know, says do
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Speaker 1: not add to the words, okay of this Covenant. And
46:08
Speaker 1: that's so the question is, well, then how can we
46:10
Speaker 1: justify the addition of the New Testament? Well, in that regard,
46:13
Speaker 1: how can we justify the edition of the Book of
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Speaker 1: Judges or the Book of Isaiah or any of the
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Speaker 1: other Old Testament books. So it's not just the New
46:20
Speaker 1: Testament we have our problem. And so in one sense
46:23
Speaker 1: they're taking the phraseology in Jureomy chapter four and somehow
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Speaker 1: applying it outside of the Book of Deuteronomy to the
46:30
Speaker 1: Old Testament. The question is is that anything that is
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Speaker 1: truly God's word is allowed and God can speak. God doesn't.
46:39
Speaker 1: God didn't say from now on, I'm never speaking again.
46:42
Speaker 1: And so Second Timothy three sixteen is super important. That
46:46
Speaker 1: Paul is writing of Timothy and there's no New Testament
46:49
Speaker 1: yet in the fullest sense. But he says, all scripture
46:54
Speaker 1: is God breathed, and it's given for doctrine and for
46:58
Speaker 1: proof of correction, for instruction and righteousness. So there he's
47:00
Speaker 1: talking about the Old Testament. So all those books, all
47:04
Speaker 1: that scripture was God breathe. So in that sense, you
47:07
Speaker 1: have all of the thirty nine books of the Old
47:09
Speaker 1: Testament that Paul was referring to. You might have had
47:12
Speaker 1: some of the other books that Paul had written, like
47:15
Speaker 1: to the Thessalonians and the Corinthians, because he wrote tewod
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Speaker 1: Timothy pretty late, you know, probably about sixty eighty sixty
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Speaker 1: two eighty before he passed away or was killed. So
47:27
Speaker 1: but we know from Second Peter three that Peter's writing
47:30
Speaker 1: to his audience and he says he talks about Paul's
47:34
Speaker 1: writings and he calls them scripture. So even there as
47:38
Speaker 1: soon as you have the phraseology of scripture that is
47:41
Speaker 1: God breathed, and so I would say that we don't
47:44
Speaker 1: have to justify the edition of the New Testament, because
47:47
Speaker 1: anything that is God breathed, all the rest of the
47:49
Speaker 1: books of the Old Testament, including those of the New
47:52
Speaker 1: by the Holy Spirit, are God's wor so he's not.
47:59
Speaker 1: You have this relation twenty two as well in eighteen
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Speaker 1: and nineteen or Jesus says the same thing that don't
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Speaker 1: don't add or take away from the book words of
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Speaker 1: this book, which in that sense would be the book relation.
48:09
Speaker 1: So I think that that would be we don't have
48:11
Speaker 1: to justify it. God speaks boom done, especially in written form.
48:17
Speaker 1: When it comes to the Book of First Enoch, there
48:21
Speaker 1: again there's something loaded here. Why are some of the
48:24
Speaker 1: Old Testament books left out of the Bible? Well, whoa, whoa, whoa,
48:27
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of minutes. Let's not assume that,
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Speaker 1: first of all, that the Book of First Enoch is
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Speaker 1: part of the God Briefs Scripture or even the Book
48:37
Speaker 1: of Jasher. There's a lot of there's several there's probably
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Speaker 1: a half a dozen books referenced in the in the
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Speaker 1: in the Old Testament. You know, you have Jasher. The
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Speaker 1: Book of Enoch is not mentioned specifically, but you have Jasher,
48:52
Speaker 1: you have Goad, you have other books that are specifically
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Speaker 1: mentioned as is this not written in such and such book?
49:00
Speaker 1: Those books aren't here anymore. And so but let me
49:03
Speaker 1: mention Jasher because the Jasher Jasher that we see today
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Speaker 1: is mentioned in Joshua chapter ten, as well as in
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Speaker 1: Second Samuel chapter one. But the Jasher that we have
49:19
Speaker 1: today was a it was a document. If you can
49:25
Speaker 1: look this up, and I again look up pseudo Jasher,
49:30
Speaker 1: you can look up on Wikipedia. Now I'm not endorsing.
49:32
Speaker 1: Wikipedia has a lot of bad things on there, but
49:34
Speaker 1: this actually article is actually pretty good. So if you
49:36
Speaker 1: look up pseudo Jasher on Wikipedia, that'll give you the
49:39
Speaker 1: background of what I'm going to tell you. The book
49:42
Speaker 1: of Jashures we have today was is based on a
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Speaker 1: book that was basically written or produced or publicized in
49:53
Speaker 1: seventeen fifty and it's a complete forgery. Okay, this is so.
49:58
Speaker 1: The book of Jasher is mentioned in Bible, but somehow
50:01
Speaker 1: that book is lost. So when somebody says, well how
50:04
Speaker 1: come this book is left out? Well, the book that
50:06
Speaker 1: you're reading today, that's not the original. So this is
50:09
Speaker 1: a book that was produced in seventeen fifty what you So,
50:11
Speaker 1: what's fascinting about it? The claim it says this book
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Speaker 1: is a translation of the original Hebrew by this abbot
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Speaker 1: from Britain basically in the ninth century, so nine hundred.
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Speaker 1: So this is saying this is a copy of a
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Speaker 1: book that was written in the New year nine hundred
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Speaker 1: by this this English abbot of Canterbury's what's fascinating about
50:36
Speaker 1: it is when you read the book of Jashure, the
50:39
Speaker 1: modern one, it's written in like post King James English.
50:44
Speaker 1: Like dude, the guy that was in nine hundred AD,
50:48
Speaker 1: he was not writing in King Jane's English. I mean
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Speaker 1: you if you read, for example, the Wickliffe Bible, you'll
50:54
Speaker 1: see that was kind of like a Middle English or
50:55
Speaker 1: Old English. Even the Wickcliffe which is thirteen hundred thirteen
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Speaker 1: fifty thirteen eighty a d. That is totally it's really
51:05
Speaker 1: really strange compared to the King James. So now you
51:09
Speaker 1: have this Jasher book that's written in post King James English,
51:12
Speaker 1: not even like Wickliffe, and not even like what you'd
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Speaker 1: see in nine hundred. So it's a complete lie. So
51:18
Speaker 1: there is no book of Josher today that is still
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Speaker 1: like stant that is available that is a legitimate coffee.
51:25
Speaker 1: It wasn't found in the Dead Sea's rolls, so we
51:27
Speaker 1: don't have that we would see. But the bicup first
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Speaker 1: Knoch was in the Dead Seas Goals parts of it,
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Speaker 1: and so in that sense, I would say that there's
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Speaker 1: no jasher, so that wasn't left out. And even when
51:39
Speaker 1: you look at some of the other apocryphal books, you
51:42
Speaker 1: know there's there's fourteen apocryphal books, you know, Maccabee's First
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Speaker 1: Maccabees Ezras, you have a whole bunch of them, and
51:50
Speaker 1: then in the Catholic version there's seven. So those aren't included.
51:54
Speaker 1: But the Catholics they'll call them jutero canonical, which means
51:58
Speaker 1: second canon. We call them a meaning they're like hidden
52:01
Speaker 1: and they're they're not legitimate. Again, and if you go
52:04
Speaker 1: back to the first entry with the Jewish, the Jewish
52:07
Speaker 1: canon twenty four is very clearly you have the writings,
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Speaker 1: you have the prophets, and you have the psalms, and
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Speaker 1: so those books were not in the Jewish canon. So
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Speaker 1: I just I'm going to say that these are not
52:21
Speaker 1: books left out of the Bible. They were never in
52:23
Speaker 1: the Bible to begin with, so it's kind of how
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Speaker 1: it's phrased.
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Speaker 2: Well, good deal, good question. We're amost running out of time,
52:30
Speaker 2: but I do have one more question for you, Jennifer.
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Speaker 2: In the chat, she asked, is there any new info
52:34
Speaker 2: on three Atlas? You heard?
52:37
Speaker 1: Yes? Actually so three I Atlas is again was discovered
52:42
Speaker 1: in July last year, and it made its way into
52:44
Speaker 1: our solar system at a very strong angle. It made
52:47
Speaker 1: its way around Mars, and then it went around the
52:49
Speaker 1: Sun and then we were kind of far away in
52:51
Speaker 1: our orbit, so it didn't really come near Earth. But
52:54
Speaker 1: then as it came in, it made its way out
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Speaker 1: towards Jupiter. And so last month in Mar it passed
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Speaker 1: Jupiter and it's like see you later. It's leaving. It's
53:06
Speaker 1: leaving our solar system at a very fast pace. And
53:08
Speaker 1: so even Abby Lobe, who the Harvard physicist, actual physicist
53:12
Speaker 1: who's been watching this, he's he's talked about a little
53:16
Speaker 1: bit here and there, but he has pretty much acknowledged
53:19
Speaker 1: that it's a natural comet and it's it's unusual, but
53:23
Speaker 1: it's still surprise because it is a what is known
53:26
Speaker 1: as an interstellar comment. It's only the third one ever discovered,
53:29
Speaker 1: which I think is going to change because of the
53:30
Speaker 1: Verisita Rubin telescope. It doesn't mean that there hasn't been
53:33
Speaker 1: other interstellar commets. It's just we've never seen them and
53:37
Speaker 1: it just happened to be discovered. So it's making its way,
53:39
Speaker 1: but it's very it is an unusual comet. It's not
53:42
Speaker 1: like a solar system comment because it comes from again,
53:45
Speaker 1: outside of our solar system, moving at a very fast rate.
53:47
Speaker 1: So it's even months and months and months ago, pretty
53:51
Speaker 1: much like last fall. There's a lot of hoopla. It's
53:56
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it's an alien ship. It's
53:59
Speaker 1: going to land, it's going to send out probes, and
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Speaker 1: some of them was pretty fanciful. And I just made
54:05
Speaker 1: the comment that here in about six months it's going
54:08
Speaker 1: to be a memory, and so we're at the memory
54:10
Speaker 1: time that it's on its way out of past Jupiter
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Speaker 1: pretty far. So that's the latest on three. I alis
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Speaker 1: a good deal.
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you asking that question, Jennifer, and that out
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Speaker 2: wraps it up.