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How to Treat the Cause, Not the Symptom with Dylan Gemelli (Part 2) · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  We can't unpack physiology until we unpack trauma. We call hypertension a diagnosis and I
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  arguably always say that high blood pressure is a symptom. It is a downstream output to bad
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  upstream inputs and we're so busy treating this downstream issue that we're not dealing with
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  the upstrips. What's your approach to fear and stress on how to help people overcome it without
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  medication or BS that's not going to help it? I'm going to. Today is extremely special for me
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  for multitudes of reasons. One, as you can see, we're not in the normal studio. We are at changing
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  life and destiny and I am thoroughly honored to have the person that I'm interviewing today for
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  multiple reasons. One, we met in person for the first time here. Now I've been going back and forth
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  with him here and there as soon as we met it was like an instantaneous click. I don't know how to
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  explain it. You just know when you know when you know and we both know. And I received an
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  award here last night and had the privilege of being introduced by my guest who gave a speech
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  that I don't really know what to say other than it hit me in a certain way of the most touching
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  and my level of appreciation. I can't really convey into words but I'm going to try to show that
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  in our interactions today. So my guest today is someone who has built a career around a principle
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  that sounds simple but it turns out to be everything. If you want to build something at last you
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  have to actually care about the people you're building it for and that is super synonymous with
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  everything that I can tell you this man stands for. He's an entrepreneur, he's an author, he's a
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  speaker and he's a philanthropist. He's the CEO of Sona Health and he's also the CEO and founder
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  of Rise Agency and I have to tell you I meet a lot of people. I talk to I don't know without
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  exaggeration thousands of people a month and I love the ability that I have to do that but there's
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  always a small select few that stick with you in just everything that you do and this is one of
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  those people. So my friends welcome Mark Young. Dude I didn't even know what to say in an intro.
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  They're going to be tears here. I'm known for my intros. No that is all I'm good. Stop. My team
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  rates my intro. You know I always tell people send me a bio and I never tell them I'm only going to
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  use a couple sentences because it's it's it's there simply so I can hit your credentials but
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  everything else comes from me. My team writes my bios. This is going to be so funny because every time
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  I had a guest like I'm like I'm going to read the bio because I could never do you justice if it
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  just did but thank you. I appreciate that and doing like the honor of being able to introduce you
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  yesterday at that at the event last night was all mine. Genuinely all mine and the point that I
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  wanted to make in that was that you're you're not here. You're not here. You're not here. You know
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  you're not talking about physiology like so many other people that podcast you you're not talking
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  about just psychology. You're not talking about just spirituality. Like you're one of the rare
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  breed of people who integrates all of those things together and understands the the holism
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  of the human organism and not any kind of container for for categorization or what not about people
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  and I appreciate that. But you thank you. Here's what I feel and I start with this and you tell me
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  what you think. So I feel like everybody's got a specialty something they're just really good at
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  they're known for that they know a lot about but then they get out there and that's all they talk
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  about and that's all you ever see from somebody and there's always more there and I'm not saying
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  they're an expert in everything but there's more personality. There's something that they're missing
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  and my job and my goal is tenfold really it's one it's to showcase the person because it's not
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  about me when you come on my show I got the opportunity to go speak and you could talk to me about
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  all you want. I'll feed you some things when you're interviewing with me but what I want to do is not
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  just showcase your strengths and I'm not necessarily saying we're going to go look at your weaknesses
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  but your other abilities to show your versatility and who you are and if I am going to do that
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  I have to be able to bring all facets of health and wellness because health and wellness is not
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  just one two or three things it is effort. It's all about yeah and and I agree with you I was
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  used to phrase that if all I have is a hammer everything looks like a nail right yeah and I see a lot
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  of people particularly in this biohacking natural house wellness space they have a product they've
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  got something they've and I respect them so much for it because for many of these people with this
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  is their story come to life like from their pain to their purpose yeah they've found something they
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  found a supplement that saved their lives they found a device that saves them lives they they found
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  this stuff and now everybody needs it not not everybody needs it like just because it just because
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  the movie won an award doesn't mean everybody enjoyed it that's right right like there's there's
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  flavors for all sorts of stuff and particularly I was talking with our mutual friend Sean great today
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  and and we were talking about we can't unpack physiology until we unpack trauma yeah like how does
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  and no two people have the same amount of trauma I know I don't care like we've all lived different
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  lives we've all been impacted differently and you know we've disclosed things about our own likes
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  to each other and say they're not the same totally different and and yet when you get today to
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  the end result literally people say we look just the white but I think there's so much that goes
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  on back here and and I think it's important for anybody in this space to responsibly practice and
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  recommend and again that's what I admire about you like you're you're not hawking things you're
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  genuinely caring about individuals yeah and not just masses I think it's important when you're
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  conveying like what something is that you're selling that you really convey what it is and why
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  you may need it not that you have to have it but this is why you may need it so if you have problem
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  X problem wire you want to address something that you're missing this will be good for you but
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  doesn't mean that every single person you know right you're trying to shove it down their throws
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  I feel there's some things out there that you and I discussed like you know certain like creatine
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  I feel like almost anybody needs that can take it right right there's some things like that but
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  then there's things that I just I have a hard time with well as I go like you you you promote
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  tongue like yeah I agree there's nobody that I wouldn't say couldn't take that product yes
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  stomach region there's there's nobody I believe that couldn't take that product and benefit from
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  right do I believe it's a solution for everybody no no but it's a great additive yeah it's not
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  gonna hurt anybody but I I see people who out there who are just like all the vitamins are good I
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  need to take all the vitamins and like yeah except then I've looked at vitamin stacks or I'm like
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  that's great you're taking this beef liver organ you're taking this you're taking this you're
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  done I'm like do you know how much of vitamin A that you've put into your diet because you've
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  taken all of these supplements together um let's still look at all of these vitamin A quantities
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  and find out how long it's going to take before you go into heart failure right okay not everything
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  is good yes and not a bit is good if you don't know everything else that the person is even taking
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  and that's it it's it's it's responsibility I mean in pharmacies we cross reference prescriptions
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  and all of this but it's like they're not even cross referencing lifestyle they're not cross
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  referencing supplementation like none of this stuff was playing into the conversation and and
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  again it gets back to that holster approach well even like something like timeline that you know
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  is like my favorite thing in the world but if we're not addressing cellular health at his core first
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  tabline's not gonna do anything for you nothing's gonna do anything for you because we're not
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  addressing the initial problem and trying to correct it you said something yesterday in a
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  conversation that I've never heard anybody say and it a truthfully I mean this you did a you did
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  a Instagram post recently talking about the responsibility of being an influence early
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  person of influences you put it as like you're influencing people's health I've never heard
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  an influencer say and I need to be responsible because I'm influencing people's finances cats in
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  it man and I was like wow like that what a great acknowledgement that sure you can recommend
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  timeline to somebody and it's not gonna hurt them it'll probably do them good even if they're not
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  paying attention to the other tenants of so you what else but you're paying attention to it and
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  saying but is it responsible for their money yeah if they're not going to get maximum benefit
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  don't spend yeah and and and I don't know and we're at a conference right now and there's
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  a hundred exhibitors outside the door and I'm wondering how many of them would say no don't buy my
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  product you know your finances probably shouldn't have this like no they don't have financing options
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  like that's not a surprise like there's everybody wants to do this and again it's because they
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  poured their lives into doing what they're doing and they want to make sure that everybody has
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  their same experience no two people have the same experience as a matter what he is there's a look
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  man everybody and we talked about this yesterday no human can't survive without money we all work
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  for money but you can make a lot of money and save a lot of people a lot of money at the same time
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  you can have competition is important because if there's no competition then you become
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  complacent and you don't become innovative and you just rest on your laurels and then that's when
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  you take advantage of people because you know you're the only one doing it you know what I
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  I intentionally when when my bio is always used that was used the words I am entrepreneur first
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  yeah educator author philanthropist I love it and and then I add the travel nut because that's you
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  but it's like there is no reason why I can't be entrepreneurial and philanthropic at the same time
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  yes like I want to have as many resources as I can possibly compile on this life because that's
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  how I have maximum impact on the world around me I say this in prayer and I I'm gonna be flat out
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  honest I didn't realize it till more recently I thought being rich was all those years I would have
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  like I always dreamed I'm gonna have a six-figure income one day like when I was growing up and
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  when I sold drugs and it never got it you know and how am I gonna do this with taxes and this and
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  then when I did it I was realized I'm not rich you know when I realized I was rich when I was rich
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  in spirit first and then rich in doing good work and then I became the richest man alive I'm rich
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  in like the love that I because I prayed for it unhard and hard and I realized man you're too
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  stoic like become more compassionate what do you why do you I'm a blockator why and I became rich
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  when the fate was so strong that everything that I did had a genuine purpose and it was for him
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  not for me and then I found like okay this is the path dude I'm gonna I'm gonna share this crazy
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  story with you we talked about this yet but so that there's your story clearly has a lot of
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  twist in turn oh yeah I got a lot you may have me be but recently this came up I've had a long
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  term relationship my dad is set on board of an organization called World Mission which is now
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  called Unknown Nations I've read yeah they do they're the audio Bible people and they'd actually
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  put New Testament read it translated into I believe they've done 5000 languages at this point
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  and it's solar power so what they do is they distribute them around the world and there's no need
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  for batteries or anything it re it recharges and then tribes all over the world like and I've
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  I've done those trips to Africa distributing them in the back woods of you know northern Kenya
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  it to literally people who live in in like gypsy like tent communities and we're sitting in the
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  tents and you're passing out audio by those just spreading the word and these just completely weird
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  places um and what's really cool though is because yeah I've had some amazing experiences and
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  that's been incredible just being able to share the world literally to the four corners of the
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  earth right and recently Greg Kelly who's the executive director at Unknown Nations he'd be
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  shot to my dad and then it was like I we need to get Mark on the call so I joined the call and then
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  while we're having this conversation I'm like you know what I need him then to join this call I need
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  Philip to join this call who are a couple of members of my team and Greg's talking about you know we
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  have missionaries in some of the areas of world that are just dangerous for somebody to be speaking
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  the gospel and one of the things that they has happened in their communities is that a person
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  ends up you know coming to Jesus they they convert to Christianity but there's no discipleship
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  that takes place past that and and you know they go home to to a family of a totally different
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  faith or to friends or to community with the village or to whatever it is and as soon as they
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  start getting hammered with questions they're like you know they they fold they don't know the answers
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  because you know it's they all they know is well I met Jesus but now what it's that well all of
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  a sudden my family is pressuring me and they're asking questions I don't know the answers to
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  and I don't have a mentor because this was a traveling missionary who led me to this place like
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  and the education ends so we're on the phone and my dad said what do you think we can do with this
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  and am I okay like that's when I'm like let me get him and I let me get Philip and get them on
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  this call right now I'm like okay so here's what I'm imagining is again I take complex things and
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  figure out solutions I'm like our team works deep deep deep in AI yeah and I'm like we could
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  actually set up AI-driven things that we can vet theology we can actually create this and we can
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  actually create the sole file of a of an AI to have the soul and personality of a 25 year old
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  Pakistani woman with the cultural references with the language references with everything else
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  and that it through theology that if we were able to gain access to this and this and this like
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  we could literally create avatars where a 25 year old female in Pakistan is able to have a
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  conversation about theology and defend faith by having in a in artificial intelligence mentor
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  and almost be discipled in apologetics and theology and that respect and it's like
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  super cool whatever maybe it's been done before I don't know but we're having this conversation
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  about how we can make this and have this prolific impact all over the world and after that call
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  was over I sat with him and I'm Philip from my team and we had kind of follow up and I'm like
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  guys like that and they're both like oh my gosh and he met she's in the room with us right now
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  actually while we do his recording and it was just like like oh my gosh like we get to do this
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  yeah like yeah this these weird twists and turns and AI being scary and wobble ball like
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  we deal with it in marketing we deal with it in companies we deal with it in healthcare and I'm like
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  guys we just got taken on this weird backward journey through developing customer service reps
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  and dealing with agentic AI education because and I always go back to that story of Esther right
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  like maybe all of that preparation was for a moment such as this maybe everything you've been through
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  was for a moment such as this maybe everything I do in businesses for a moment such as this maybe
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  all of the work we've been doing an AI to learn at the hard way for the past year or two like
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  maybe this is what it's about maybe it is nothing to do with customer service bots maybe it is
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  nothing to do with you know all the different apps that we're in and there's nothing to do with
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  Chad GPT and whatnot they it all has something to do with like preparation yeah and I think that
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  preparation often looks like pain always comes out as purpose yeah that's it I don't even know
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  where we were going no it sounded like a great story compared to you were just saying you know
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  I um I've had a I I tend to not use the word fear anymore but um I would say a tempered skepticism
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  with like AI what it's gonna do and I'm trying to think about okay this is happening no matter what
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  so how is this what I kind of feel can be extremely negative how can we refer this in turning
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  into something extremely positive because it's gonna it's gonna come up the force and CNN there's
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  there's there's a negative aspect behind I'll care what anybody says and there's an evil intent
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  behind some of it but how do we take that and reverse it because anything evil can be changed
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  and reversed moments a 20 that's exactly right we ever intended for evil double use for his all
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  or yeah and that's the divine table turn and that could be more of the purposes that we have
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  is to change make that change and I and I I've been thinking about that and that right now
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  then this is just what he does um and it brought a whole nother thinking process onto me we'll have
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  to talk about a little bit later um just root we have so many things to talk about labor you know
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  where that's going but thank you for that because that gave me some insight that I think that I
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  was searching for I tend to work on tempering being bothered and fearful anymore I think that's
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  one of the progressions that I've personally made and I'm wondering your thoughts on and for people
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  because I'm sure you would have some good thoughts an overcoming fears stresses and anxieties because
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  you and I both know I think you know as bad as cancer and as bad as any sort of disease that we
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  run into I think fear stress these are the actual largest killers because they are the causes
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  upset diseases those you know and so I'm wondering for you what's your approach to fear and stress
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  on how to help people overcome it without medication or BS that's not going to help it
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  I'm going to go back to the individuality of that question BS certain people's fears and
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  stresses are different than others yeah and you know some people's fears I would say are completely
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  negligible and why are you bothering me even it's nonsense even though it's very real to them
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  and other people's fears are fears that I couldn't possibly comprehend because they're so serious
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  that it that goes past me um I will say that biblically since we're already down that
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  red at whole fear not are the words that are used most often and in fact they're used
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  365 times throughout scripture which I find to be an incredible coincidence what not for
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  not for our god right that the words fear not are used exact number of times as the number of
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  days that are in our calendar um so I think that I didn't know that kind of a cool kind of cool
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  piece of little nugget there that's it so early remind that's a daily remind I get it and
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  my belief is that from a I always say I'm a contrarian any conversation because if you
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  ask me about a physiological symptom I'm gonna ask you about your emotional health if you ask
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  me about emotional issue I'm gonna ask you about spirituals like I'm gonna always approach it
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  through the back door to have that conversation um when people are experiencing fears I was like
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  personally one of the ways that I handle fear when it creeps into my life is I have a tendency to
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  play out worst case scenarios um because fear triggers this this sympathetic nervous system right
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  our autonomic nervous system is this upshift downshift type thing and both are very necessary
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  but fear triggers that sympathetic nervous system and unfortunately we tend to live
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  in our society like what is the number 80 something percent of the population is actually living
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  under chronic stress and that stress creates fear it's fear of losing my job it's fear of you know
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  cancer it's it's fear of death it's fear of my children growing up and and being a mess like
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  whatever it is um I I have a cousin who can't literally rest at night because if she sees a
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  headlight in the window jumps up off the couch because she's convinced the person is coming into the
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  house and it's like just nervous system off the chain and one of the things that I do is like
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  literally for me I'm a very cognitive behavioral person um I tend to play out worst case scenarios
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  because worst case scenarios actually get me out of fear and put me into purpose that is in my
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  business if everything goes wrong I create two budgets every year and this is going to sound
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  ridiculous but we've talked I don't lose I hate losing there's no actually I don't even love
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  winning I hate losing right like no it's in I drive yeah winnings cool I'd spec that not losing
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  is my purpose you'd but I literally create a budget for my own business of it everything went wrong
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  what does it look like because if I'm still using black ink when everything goes wrong
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  there's no fear this year like I have nothing to fear and it literally ships me into a this is
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  the best case scenario this is the worst case scenario and I know statistically that will probably
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  end on somewhere mid or right so if this is the worst it can get and that scenario didn't kill me
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  I have no reason to be in an overbreath I love it and I think for so many people and I think that
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  plays out in in a hundred different ways to people's lives and for me I'm talking business and
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  financial state but yeah but I mean literally if it's disease if it's if it's if it's divorce and
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  I mean all of the things that can affect people's lives up okay let's play out the scenario
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  where are you at the end of this and and if where you are at the end of this is still above ground
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  then this hope right there's always hope yeah so and I always said there's a multitude of things
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  that I do that I think you'll light one and I told Queenie this when I first met her she's like well
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  light why are you looking for all these other things when you have this and I said because you have
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  to have a backup before your backup and a backup for that backup and that's why because
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  when you think everything's so great and dandy at the drop of a dime and I know this from walking
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  into my mortgage company office and seeing it boarded up in 2008 and I know this from waking up one day
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  and then people telling me you can't go to the gym you can't go outside for COVID and I know that
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  these things can happen that you wake up and it's just that's it and then what how do you handle it
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  what do you do so I love that because you have to be prepared and then my other question that I've
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  been working on for myself which is working is okay I'm getting so stressed out like I'm or I'm
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  crying or I'm over emotional what did that contribute to solving the problem or did it make it worse
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  yeah now I got that the anger thing that I have that's my worst that that I get like it and it's
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  not this like rage anger it's this impatience anger that I I have to tell myself this isn't
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  solved anything but the stress part I've been working on to where it's like what is this crying
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  gonna do what how does this help often serve me no but or if I look at the clock and I cried for
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  30 minutes or I got stressed for an hour I just lost an hour could have been fixing this shit
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  yeah you know what I mean my answer to that and this is I've said this for decades I give myself
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  a timeline is the one thing that I can't stand is when people get into that frame and people tell
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  them to knock it off for people like no no you need to acknowledge that this is a very real emotion
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  right now and sometimes crying is a great way to expel that energy but it's got an expiration
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  exactly that if this is the worst day of my life that's great I'm going to spend tonight being
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  miserable and I'm going to do everything in my power to be miserable tonight and sometimes I just
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  embrace the suck so pick and tomorrow morning I'm back in the south yeah because this this has an
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  expiration date this is not going to go on forever but I I make a date with my
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  investing in that respect right like I'm I'm going to I'm going to put an expiration date and I
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  think that's where some people go too far down that rabbit mold think I'm going to get into the
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  depression and now I'm star but as I wait we need to put up some guard rails and it it's okay to
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  wallow in it for a quick second because sometimes life does so I just call it delaying inevitable and
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  don't do quite you know what I mean like I when I was getting into a lot of trouble when I was
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  younger you know the story a things would happen and I would like not tell my parents or not tell
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  them and I was going to have to come up yeah I was going to manage it kept weighing on me and it
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  would get worse and I couldn't sleep and I think about what I'm going to do how I'm going to do
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  some minutes like weeks later yeah and it's like you know and it's it's when you delay the inevitable
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  you make it five million times worse I'm a guy now that's just like just let's get it over with
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  whatever it is I go don't have it just but yeah just let's just hurry up and get it over so I
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  have to think about it yeah I'd much rather just do it get it over with and not take about it
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  again you know what I mean because if it's inevitable do it I agree I want to ask you something
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  you probably didn't expect me to ask and I think you're the guy to ask which is why I'm going to do
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  this is stressful why is it in your view that so many people distort the words that are said in
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  the Bible what is the reason that you feel and I'm sure that this is a loaded question and there's
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  multitudes of avenues but I'm curious to somebody that is a a theologian why do you fear
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  because I want to know from an expert of said Bible that we both live on that I feel has the
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  answer to every question in life but people misconstruer everything in it wow that's an enormous
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  question I know you're the guy to answer right I I can get you some some opinions off the cuff
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  here play one of them I would say is there's obviously a spiritual warfare of when truth is spoken
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  and the lie is always going to be present because there's that interpretation the second thing
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  I would say is that we all view everything through the context of our own existence right that's
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  exactly I can't see the world outside of the way I saw it and I think and I'll I'll get a little
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  bit more historical and exegetical here and say the Bible was written in a time that in context
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  it made sense and we try to interpret those actions through a 21st century mindset and you know
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  I hear people say thing oh women were treated terrible in the Bible I'm like no not always in now
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  and in some cases yes and in some cases children were treated daily like I say oh my go there
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  I even hear the Pope for instance making a comment recently about God will not hear the prayers
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  of men who wage war and it's like and I immediately stopped and I'm like and I'm like I don't know
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  if that's true because I've got documents of God specifically telling people to go to war and I'm
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  not promoting war or not promoting war and that's not a political conversation but it's like
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  our 21st century context is very different than the days of David right it's it's very
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  dated like when the when the days the kings were the person who was out in the middle of the war
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  like the kings I think literally the story of David Bathsheba actually the story begins with
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  in the season where kings were at war David didn't go like that's how he was worded in
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  temptation because in cultural context he should have been at war yeah that whole fall would have
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  never happened had he been where he was supposed to be so it's like the king the man after God's
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  own heart was supposed to be a war today we would find that absolute map is so why do I think a
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  lot of times that the Bible was taken in our context I think because contextually things change
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  I mean the world a hundred years ago wasn't the same as the world this tip neck fun
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  did the other things that I would put in there is that we we study the Bible most people study the
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  Bible for its relevance to their own lives and not study in the Bible is an objective truth
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  and adapting me to it rather than it to me I see so I I also sign and we'll always you know well
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  God has a purpose for everything and I'm like believe it tell me about that it's like well you know
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  it says you know all things work together you know and I'm like all things work together for good
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  and I'm like hmm finish that nope finish that size well it says all things work together for
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  better than like hmm for those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose so
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  if you do not love the Lord and then you are not called according to his purpose the first part in
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  that curse doesn't apply to you but we're not allowed to cherry pick and pull the things we want
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  and call them true it yeah it's like that's not okay yeah very selective correct and so yeah I
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  put so many answers but I just feel like that people read what they want to read without
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  reading what they should read and so I most people that I know that's not fair people who I know
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  who are who are faith adjacent they read for inspiration they they read for and and I follow
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  you on Instagram and I see that you read the Jesus calling but by Sarah you know yeah because
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  you post pages I don't yeah I might you never morning absolutely never brought it with me well
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  there you go and I'm like you know Jesus calling great book that's fantastic I know you're a man of
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  faith and when you post a page out of Jesus calling I know you reading that book is for genuine
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  edification and you're reading that for that purpose I know several other people who on the
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  daily post pictures from their Jesus calling reading I'm like I know and I think it's not
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  mine to judge I don't mean to make it that way but like I don't think based on you and know them
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  by their fruits that most of the people that I never doing that are genuinely seeking Christ in that
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  reading I think they're seeking inspiration um but it's more of a pop psychology than an actual
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  faith like people want to believe the Bible they don't want them to live it yeah and I think that's
• 30:54
  rubber hits the road on some of that stuff so again why do I think that people
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  read the Bible and get different things and interpret different things one end of the spectrum
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  because there is also an enemy of our soul who is going to do everything to distort truth yeah and
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  and he's very convincing there's also people who are reading for inspiration rather than reading
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  for comprehension out of your head and contextually everything adversary I took the journey of
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  really getting into it for me personally as like training like I told you it was training me to
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  understand where my life needed to go and well how I was supposed to live and what I was actually
• 31:35
  missing in the way that I studied it and learned what it actually meant with the words meme and how
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  they apply to myself today and understanding you know the way that was spoken then and how it
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  translates to now and to understand and piece it together and you know what you have to be willing
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  it's like the person that can't take constructive criticism you have to be willing
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  to accept what you're reading as it's going to benefit you in the end and to touch on the prayers
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  that I put up there you know I missed a day or two when I actually just forgot to post it and to
• 32:07
  people that never click like or anything was like what happened today like why didn't you post that
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  and I was like match up waiting I can't miss these days because it's it's I put that up there so
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  not so people think I'm so always to help them just I can't tell me people Robinson where do I
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  buy that book she got it for me for my birthday I think or you and brought me a couple I read one
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  in the morning one at night and I thought well share a couple of these and then it turns into a
• 32:30
  daily thing so that I'm people that don't read anything they might actually be waiting to see it well
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  you I'm sure you remember the purpose driven life the Rick Warren book that was such a runaway
• 32:40
  success so many years ago and it's like and I absolutely the first sentence of that book if you
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  remember it was like such a big thing it was it was literally four words it's not about you
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  I mean first four words of that entire book purpose driven life what does it mean to have
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  purpose in your life first of all it's not about you yeah it's it's a hard it's a hard pill of
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  swallow yeah if you don't if you don't feel it inside of you like and you can some people like
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  to say it but they don't mean it are they and they think they do they trick themselves and do
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  but then if you rubber hits the road and you break it down on and yeah if you take a hard
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  look in the mirror and ask yourself is that true a lot of people have to say no and if you approach
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  by the study the same way you approach health low yeah like you're you're a researcher you're
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  you're an athlete so you're absolutely performance driven yeah in everything you do which means if
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  if you decide that guy laugh I better buddy of mine who recently started going back to church
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  and I'm thrilled to see it because for so long I'm like dude like if you ever you know came over
• 33:45
  to the light side like and he's at such a dear friend and I'm like if you ever made the step into
• 33:50
  fake like you'd be such a powerhouse I'm like because I know the way things I know the way he trains
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  I know without his physical routine I know the way he runs his business like I know everything
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  about the way the heat functions and that capacity it's like if you're a person who is just I am
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  all in to whatever I do which is you like bell like just I know go you have to not just pray
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  for certain things because it sounds good that you have like when I had the actual desire for what
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  I was praying for and I and aside from like the family prayers and the people prayers like what I
• 34:24
  asked for myself if you heard those you some people would probably not understand what I pray for
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  and I and I pray for a powerful voice and when I asked for strength it's it's not a physical
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  strength it's strength to endure everything that comes around me during the day to get to handle
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  it and to have the strength to keep going to do what I was put here to do those are the things
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  and I pray for like virtues of because people don't differentiate knowledge and wisdom they don't
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  understand that there's a lot of smart people that have no wisdom they don't know I don't know
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  you know the smartest people are the wise ones not the ones that are book smart but that doesn't
• 35:05
  get you but so far it's how do you use it you know I don't I'm sure you've read the book that
• 35:09
  was a tough one for me at the time that I think I should reread in and and I was thinking about
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  that today because I have the or maybe it's yesterday there was a little piece of it it's imitation
• 35:18
  of Christ and the authors rough like though in the approach like it's rough like you read in
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  like damn man like this too like the first time I read it I was in Ford on vacation and I was
• 35:28
  reading I'll say I don't know if I buy this like it's seriously but you have to be able to
• 35:34
  endure it if you can't endure then your purpose can't really be fulfilled because you have no
• 35:38
  perseverance and I think that's lacking you said something a minute ago that a connection was made
• 35:45
  for me so thank you for that but you you made a differentiation between knowledge and wisdom
• 35:51
  and I we talked about AI a few minutes ago and I kind of want to draw this quarterly yeah
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  as leave when we're talking about a world of AI I use the 1080 10 rule and our our teams all those
• 36:04
  that is like 10% is how I structure everything to know when he's to happen let AI do the 80% of the
• 36:10
  work yeah the last 10% is is it good work is it applicable to what we do and when you started
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  talking about the differentiation between knowledge and wisdom my knowledge is the AI yeah you
• 36:21
  know I can automate knowledge nowadays because there is no shortage of knowledge available but it's
• 36:27
  incumbent upon us to have the wisdom to apply that because all of the knowledge in the world without
• 36:35
  application is just data play that's it how how do we get the wisdom applied and again I'll say
• 36:43
  you can know all of the right things about health and still be unhealthy and you can know all the
• 36:47
  right things about theology and still be a spiritual mass and you can know that I can I can know all
• 36:52
  of the things there is to know about another human being and still have a terrible relationship if
• 36:58
  I don't apply those things and and the application to your point is actually where the human difference
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  takes place and I think that's where we spent too much time here for too long and I think the whole
• 37:10
  world is shifting where this is the value it's like an empty cell right it's it's it's it's you've
• 37:17
  got the structure you might have the cellular membrane protecting you with the knowledge but if
• 37:22
  you don't have the wisdom your myocardial sucks you you know what I mean like you're you're missing
• 37:27
  them boasting the ordinary part of it such a nerd analogy I love in this from that the former
• 37:33
  non-science guy to the converted science yeah yeah I laughed when you told me that oh yeah science
• 37:37
  was the subject I hated most all I just despised it I absolutely I was a math guy it's a busy yeah
• 37:43
  I was a numbers and math guy which also most people think sucks and then I was a communication
• 37:49
  sky that's right I mean that yeah naturally for that but yeah I'm telling you man and when I hit
• 37:54
  me and I realized it I like that's all I care about I mean aside from the the Bible readings and
• 38:01
  the study my whole premises now I mean it's fit obviously it's going to be nutrition and fitness
• 38:06
  but it's that's still science is if you think about it food is science the I mean 100 percent
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  muscular and and everything else that falls into anatomy and physiology is science 100 percent yeah
• 38:18
  it's just why I was saying all right so I want to shift to something here on the back end of the
• 38:23
  conversation that we're both passionate about I want to get into a little bit of the heart
• 38:27
  heart health cardiology cardiovascular health it seems to me that aside from the
• 38:36
  amount of misconceptions based around heart health and what we kind of can't do what we kind
• 38:40
  of cannot reverse how we treat things there's a and just this cascade of risen heart problems over
• 38:48
  the past I don't know 20 30 years maybe where it's just like out of control at this point
• 38:55
  what are some of the biggest contributing factors to that rise that it just continues to keep
• 39:01
  going and going so I'm going to say several different answers yeah this does a lot yeah
• 39:08
  cardiovascular disease in general and to connect to the dots there with everything we've talked about
• 39:13
  which is crazy is like I spend a lot of time focused in cardiovascular health with some of my
• 39:18
  businesses and everything else and I'm a functional medicine doctor by training like
• 39:24
  cardiovascular disease is so mystical and I'm going to say that unfortunately things like
• 39:28
  high blood pressure are so misunderstood and my personal opinion of this is we call hypertension
• 39:35
  a diagnosis and I arguably always say that high blood pressure is a symptom it is a downstream
• 39:44
  output to bad upstream inputs and we're so busy treating this downstream issue that we're not
• 39:52
  dealing with the upstrips right what what are the things that we can control I was controlling
• 39:56
  controllables right like yeah what what can I control up here so that this doesn't happen and it's
• 40:02
  like well you didn't turn the faucet off but you just keep pouring towels on the floor like
• 40:07
  turn the faucet off like there there's an easy fix here and I think things like hypertension
• 40:12
  cardiovascular disease all of these types of things their input problems yeah yeah and high blood
• 40:18
  pressure is symptomatic but we've now called it a diagnosis like it's literally an insurance
• 40:25
  code this person is diagnosed hypertension physicians are required to I mean literally
• 40:30
  standard of care as you can be sued if a person comes in has high blood pressure during your medical
• 40:35
  examination and you don't prescribe an anti-hypertensive and it's like so literally we've created
• 40:41
  standard of care and practitioner culpability if they don't yeah prescribe well that's a business
• 40:47
  model but by are we not dealing with the upstream side of this so to talk through what are some of
• 40:53
  those upstream but one is we live in incredibly high stress lies we talked to over 80% of the
• 40:57
  population talks about having chronic stress chronic stress we can walk through the 17 different
• 41:03
  things that happen with that but there's a huge issue related to chronic stress which increases
• 41:07
  cortisol production which decreases you know parasympathetic reverse response which is our
• 41:12
  rest in digest mode which means our bodies are not healing the way they should arguably say sleep
• 41:18
  is a huge problem for cardiovascular disease because we have we have almost glorified
• 41:25
  the smallest number of hours that we can process I'm like I hear people be like oh three hours I'm
• 41:31
  good to go I'm like I would never wash like three hours because it's not that I wear that like a
• 41:36
  badge of honor but you and I are old enough to remember you know the days of pulling all nighters
• 41:42
  you didn't pull an all-nighter and we're ashamed of it like if you pull an all-nighter you told
• 41:46
  everybody about it and you bragged that you had pulled an all-nighter that that's not that's not
• 41:50
  exciting me no but you sleep is leading to the decision nutrition yeah like we can't starve our
• 41:56
  body of its necessary inputs and then complain about the outputs like this is a thing I'll say that
• 42:01
  even nutrition itself in that small category is completely misunderstood when we talk about
• 42:07
  cardiovascular worst because I'll get an example what is the first thing and that a doctor
• 42:11
  tells a patient from the nutritional standpoint if they've been diagnosed with hypertension
• 42:17
  you got it low sodium diet and and I always go to oh yes that's what we want we want to
• 42:22
  deplete people's bodies of electrolytes that'll absolutely help them heal yeah any very
• 42:27
  very heart-rather-loaf absolutely and again good good sorry I'm not talking about trash
• 42:31
  table salt but I mean if we're actually talking about real saltly your body can't have too much salt
• 42:37
  yeah and then well no that's not true there was a study back in the 60s that actually showed
• 42:41
  that people who had you know high blood pressure also had high salt content in your body it's just
• 42:46
  to ask you do you think the premise behind that is the water retention of high salt that makes
• 42:50
  the heart work harder yes the premise the premise is that the study that was actually done back
• 42:54
  in I believe it was in the 60s that said the cardiovascular disease or high blood pressure
• 42:59
  was actually associated with salt retention was actually a correlation not a causation
• 43:05
  that yes the people who had high hypertension also had high sodium levels what they're missing
• 43:10
  is that in absence of sugar nobody has high sodium levels so okay high sodium levels and I always
• 43:17
  say like if you're cooking a pot of spaghetti sauce right we're both Italian what what do you do
• 43:22
  if it's too salty you're throwing a little sugar or do you do if it's too sweet you're throwing
• 43:26
  a little salt eyes those things balance naturally yeah so sugar intake has been on an incredible spike
• 43:33
  throughout the last several decades process food is on incredible spikes throughout the last
• 43:37
  several decades well we've taught people that the bottom of the pyramid is is grains and carbohydrates
• 43:45
  at at which what all of those carbohydrates are just going to convert they're going to convert
• 43:50
  into into glucose they're not going to be absorbed because most people are and again
• 43:54
  my next item is going to be a movement and exercise because we've become a sedentary world
• 43:58
  on top of that but I've got absolutely no glycodon absorption if I'm not moving my muscles like your
• 44:05
  muscles are glucose you know machines they're literally absorbing and expanding all the like so
• 44:11
  now you've end up with elevated glucose levels in the body which is waiting to just astronomical
• 44:15
  levels of diabetes like they all of these things but you got to be very careful because you're
• 44:22
  making too much sense is your problem is you're going to target on me like but the truth is is like
• 44:28
  we talk about blood pressure as being this high-sawated diagnosis and I fact I'm like no this is
• 44:35
  such a multi variant sink a sink though where all of these things apply and what's happening is all
• 44:42
  of these things that we talked about are 100% causing endothelial dysfunction yes and endothelial
• 44:48
  dysfunction in and of itself is what's causing this blood pressure problem because the endothelial
• 44:54
  lying the cardiovascular system is actually what regulates blood pressure of the body the body
• 44:58
  has in the neat intelligence that 100% knows how to keep itself alive like there's nothing you've
• 45:05
  ever done to yourself that has killed you yet I have evidence of that and I guarantee you've been
• 45:11
  hurt more than enough times and you've healed and your body knows what it's doing I don't think
• 45:17
  about okay how breathe now breathe yeah now breathe does something it does and blood pressure
• 45:24
  regulation is one of those things but it's regulated at the endothelial level and when we have
• 45:29
  nutritionally or behaviorally or lifestyle environmentally through through everything from EMF to
• 45:37
  environmental toxins and whatnot chemtrails you name I think all of these things affect
• 45:41
  everything but that endothelial dysfunction actually leads to the body not remembering
• 45:47
  how to do what it is created to do okay and the the secret of that is restore endothelial
• 45:53
  function yes or endothelial function and 9 out of 10 people will not deal with this symptomate
• 45:59
  how do we do that or we restore endothelial function again multiple ways one of them
• 46:05
  innate all these terrible things that we've already talked about you both things like
• 46:08
  sugar nudge and things like nutrition things like exercise one of the companies that I work with
• 46:14
  as we mentioned in a sitting here right in front of me is a is a medical device that actually
• 46:19
  specifically targets endothelial dysfunction which is called zone up the zone of applause
• 46:24
  may as well in the health and it actually specifically targets the endothelial into isometric
• 46:30
  exercise okay then you're an exercise guy you get this like that there's a difference between
• 46:35
  aerobic exercise and anaerobic exercise aerobic exercise is what we're used to I always say it's
• 46:41
  the sit up at the concentric movement followed by the eccentric movement the up the down the up the
• 46:46
  down the isometric which is zona it's more like a pike yeah okay it's a holding the static
• 46:53
  resistance level for a period of time and causing the body that that temporary muscle tension
• 46:59
  tells it that exact same static resistance what zona does is it actually kind of lets you do a
• 47:05
  plank but it's letting you do it using grip strength rather than you know asking grandma to get
• 47:10
  on the floor and do a plank right yeah um so as that happens and they end to feel him ages over time
• 47:17
  this actually helps reverse that aging though and why and it's weird how it does it I'll say there's
• 47:22
  two two major things that contribute there the first one is um when your body moves into that
• 47:29
  sympathetic nervous system it's helping you learn how to move between sympathetic comparison
• 47:34
  the life and we talk we've talked a lot about the nervous system and how we live in this stress
• 47:38
  that world most people get stuck yeah and they've ever trained their nervous system how to calm down
• 47:44
  which means even when they go to sleep they're they're a basket case even in their sleep right it's
• 47:48
  sleep quality suffers even if they actually get their eight hours yeah what this is doing is that
• 47:54
  that tension no one puts their body under stress intentionally without the body wanting to fight back
• 48:01
  so when I'm doing a contraction on my arm where I'm holding at a static resistance it's uncomfortable
• 48:07
  yeah it actually ships the sympathetic nervous system and when the sympathetic nervous system is
• 48:11
  triggered in the brain the body's first response at a millisecond level is nitric oxide release
• 48:17
  okay nitric oxide we all know bodies natural vasodilator things start happening right one of the
• 48:24
  things that people don't realize is as as we age particularly in women and our cardiovascular
• 48:30
  health is such a bigger problem for women than it is men yeah which is completely backwards from
• 48:35
  everything we were brought up to believe I know because we think of dad having heart attack not mom
• 48:39
  right right and especially because estrogen is one of the body's primary vasodilators and
• 48:45
  his women are postmenopausal it actually that vasodilation becomes either worse for most men
• 48:52
  the truth is is this this nitric oxide production and the vasodilation and the early signs of heart
• 48:58
  issues normally starts in the formula ed well it it's the most visible sign that you'd have a
• 49:03
  circulatory problem yeah yeah and most noticeable and yet what do we do when a person is suffering
• 49:08
  or the rectile of this function give him a pill yeah we're not fixing systemic problem we're fixing
• 49:14
  a symptom this is the bodies it's a it's a it's a right on the dashboard it's a warning so check
• 49:21
  as something's wrong check engine oh okay well let's just put some tape over that light
• 49:27
  now I can't see the warning light anymore we must be better and it's like no guys that's not
• 49:31
  the deal so it's only you're not only getting that ecric oxide boost but part of it is during
• 49:36
  that muscle tension in your arm the sodium of potassium must stay at a balanced level in the body
• 49:42
  at all times so sodium gets released to stop the muscle from spasomy but in that process potassium
• 49:48
  also was released and if you think about an aging in the theory it was kind of like a sponge that's
• 49:54
  begun to lose its moisture so that sponge kind of dries out as the potassium moves through the
• 49:59
  endothelium it actually softens the endothelium again so you're forcing this reaction I say it's
• 50:06
  like I said you know using this as like a combo shot to the corner pocket I do this exercise the
• 50:11
  exercise causes the sodium release the sodium release then causes the potassium release the potassium
• 50:16
  release then softens the endothelium and with the endothelium wakes up it restores that innate
• 50:23
  intelligence the body to go oh my gosh I know what's going on here wait this is super pool and I say
• 50:28
  like it's the ultimate bio hack which is why I got involved with the company because I'm like
• 50:33
  this totally makes sense to me like it's it's a hard story to tell because the average person
• 50:39
  is no idea what you're talking about and we trained people to believe that we are a symptom
• 50:43
  reduction health care country all we do is focus on symptoms yeah I know and if all we do is focus
• 50:50
  on the symptom we never actually faired out the upstream I'm glad you talked about sodium
• 50:57
  potassium I've been talking about those importance of those ratios for well the reason I started
• 51:01
  talking about those so long ago as people were wanting to know what caused water retention with HGH
• 51:06
  use in MK677 and I took me to uncover that the main problem was is because we eat so much sodium
• 51:14
  and not enough potassium and the ratios were passed nothing wrong with sodium but people eat so
• 51:19
  many processed foods and things that are holding so much extra and like you said the bad kind
• 51:24
  and you know this people don't realize like everybody always comes up with the oh it's already
• 51:30
  eat that much protein thing and they have to eat so much when a reality the thing that's lacking
• 51:35
  in the diet is potassium and yet the problem is you can't supplement their way to proper potassium
• 51:40
  because potassium's limitation that weight is 99 milligrams potassium that is a
• 51:45
  3% they could die and because you will actually stop your heart if you over supplement potassium
• 51:52
  like see a half to deal with Patricia I eat a ton of potassium but I have the potassium
• 51:58
  pill that's prescribed because I have this like severe low potassium issue consistently my mom
• 52:03
  had that yeah you know I think the part of it is this over sweating and training and the
• 52:08
  easy of dehydration and I was on guardians for a heart like hug you know I say heart failure
• 52:13
  but it's it was just the improved ejection fraction and that was draining so I have the
• 52:19
  oh the 10 pill for potassium I take twice a day and then it stopped all the heart
• 52:24
  palpitations because of potassium which is like draining you know so I get it under control I
• 52:29
  you don't want to live off those forever but you know it like you said you can only put so much in
• 52:34
  like search some powders that have more in there but if you don't if you're just relying on
• 52:38
  a supplement not eating it that's a problem right and realistically and you tell me what you think
• 52:43
  I I always tell people at the minimum 3500 milligrams but ideally more like 47 47 is the real
• 52:49
  number the real number the 35 is the we don't really want to hear the truth but we think we can
• 52:54
  get by with this amount but it's not that it's not enough it's not and and the amount of potassium
• 53:00
  like what is after bit book a number is it's been a while since I've looked at the statistic but it's
• 53:04
  like only 17% of the population is even in range no like I mean it's a ridiculous number and if
• 53:11
  you ask people what they're doing to to take his or I mean about out if it's not even close every
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  every single time because he don't would realize that like you don't by name and you're way out
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  of open eye away and that's not even close to the best food and it's not even that because for you
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  prevent I know I you know where I get a ton of potassium is avocados avocados exactly I was
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  gonna say because you're not only getting potassium but you're also getting the healthy fat I
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  get because I eat so much avocado I'd normally get almost a thousand milligrams or more just
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  from the amount of avocado I eat every day it loves that yeah the problem is is I like my
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  avocado smashed up with tortilla chips max the issue hey that's my kind of I love avocados as
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  but you know I did good guac I didn't start even at even eating them till about I don't know
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  your year and a half ago that's so funny I hated avocados my entire life and probably like 10
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  years ago I went to to lunch with my sister in my dad one day they ordered guacamole and
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  like on shillies or something terrible and I'm like and I just took a scoop and was like wow
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  this is really good what have I been doing all that nowadays like I will put avocados on anything
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  you know I didn't like it because I thought I didn't like it by the way it looked totally yeah
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  they actually actually ate it I was like I really rocked avocados on burgers and everything I
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  believed right now I did not starting till about a year and a half ago or so and I can't
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  live without any of it and I want your opinion on this in in kind of towards the end here because
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  I think this is important and I talk about this freely but I want your thinking and see if
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  the coincides of my thinking you know I I talked about things I found with my heart the calcium
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  score and having some blockage there finding it's not great but early enough and then like low
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  ejection fraction later and and I argue yeah I needing this order but I think the main problem
• 55:10
  was this low fat diet affair of fats for my whole life and I think that all of those foods that
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  we thought were healthy and me doing that for so many years from like 11 till 42 of starvation
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  overtraining and it's not given my body everything and and we're laughing but in all honesty
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  I lived on vegetables oatmeal egg whites and factory yogurt for years and years and years of no
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  meat no fats no this and the minute that I changed that not only did I get more lean and cut up
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  from doubling calorie and taking going from 15 grams of fat a day to 130 right yeah and then my
• 55:51
  all of my heart numbers that are supposed to be terrible from all the fat drastically got better
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  and like all of the things I was deficient and just opened up like everything the only thing that
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  went up was my LDL went up a little bit of course by my HD I went up by 30 points right
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  long as you got a belly yeah so I wonder for you because then I had a low ejection fraction
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  I believe this from the overtrain and the drug use and and the Giardians help but now I got it
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  back for like 50 which is still not I want it 55 is 70 but do you think that that low fat
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  diet was the main contributing factor to and do you think it's a contributing factor to
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  potential plaque or ferro sclerosis build up from you know those foods and then starving from
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  the nutrients that we need yeah I would argue I'll say two things one the same thing we talked
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  about earlier this I don't know your exact physiology yeah that's or no because other things may
• 56:46
  be a play too so I never want to over generalize yeah something there's more issue it for sure the
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  answer is could be yeah I don't disagree that that's a thing um but we also I mean you hear
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  about stuff left the blood type diets and this type of stuff right like everybody goes and becomes
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  this brand advocate for you know on keto I'm only on carnivore and oh if you get in human bodies
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  that's like everybody goes on this this attack of you know my way of doing things is the best way
• 57:14
  of doing things and like we started the whole conversation and then everybody should do exactly
• 57:19
  what I do and while I'm a big fan big fan of high protein mocarb diets and I think it's the
• 57:26
  right way that your body is used to fighting I'm also a big fan of fasting for the purpose of
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  autophagy and all these reasons because I think that is good for everyone the reality is is that
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  we need to be able to it I personally I run my blood work every six months but I get my
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  blood work done every six months and my I do three but six is good I mean I do six months I used
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  to do a year yeah six or R.A. just really good pretty normal like six every six months I'll
• 57:53
  redo all my blood markers and then it again because I'm a performer I gamify now what can I get
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  the next panel to look like yeah like here's what was off on this one what do I want to do with
• 58:05
  this one and and I'll give you I'll do it more often like I do one in January and there was some
• 58:09
  stuff on there I did not like and I'm like hmm okay what was that I'm like wait a minute I don't
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  think I fasted the morning I did the blood work though and then I'm like well did I or did
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  hurt by trying to like I didn't remember yeah as I always have them come to my office and do it yeah
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  be yeah so I'm playing mobile full bottom as gas out the all in the morning they came to do it I was
• 58:27
  like I don't normally eat anything in the morning but then I forgot and it'll skew a totally didn't
• 58:33
  it threw off a bunch of numbers that actually I was not happy with so I reran the march but I was
• 58:39
  like well I'm gonna go ahead to get everything I came to get these in line before the blood
• 58:44
  panel comes due in March and again with only two months between yeah like if something is wrong
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  that concerns me I'm gonna make behavioral and lifestyle changes for those two months and see if
• 58:55
  I can pull this back over control yeah by March literally everything was no I love it the only
• 59:01
  thing that was off was my AST was was elevated even higher than it was in January which was
• 59:08
  interesting but AST being higher March didn't surprise me because now ALT was fine
• 59:13
  ALT was perfectly arranged and AST was high so it's kind of like I'm like well that doesn't
• 59:19
  sound like a liver issue actually AST can be elevated just based on the heavy train yeah so
• 59:23
  absolutely if this is muscular tension yet I damage it tissue keep train that's fine but like
• 59:29
  everything else is back in control so when I look at what diet is appropriate for somebody and so
• 59:35
  on well it depends where are you they're tools they're not meant to be used forever it's
• 59:40
  they're tools who I say that over and over these people that just go in and argue and fight
• 59:45
  bitch and complain and say they start calling people names because they're preaching about something
• 59:51
  it's like dude listen these nutrients are here for a purpose there's there's three things there
• 59:57
  for a reason because we do need them at certain points I'm not saying just like you I prefer a
• 1:00:02
  lower carb diet that there's times where we need more actually and you can't stay metabolically
• 1:00:06
  flexible if you just or just radica heels that's on no and sometimes I do it because I'm
• 1:00:12
  regimented and I'm like shept I can't I got be careful here you know what I mean let it in the
• 1:00:16
  thing is is like I'm gonna add one other layer in there too it's yeah if you're bidding all these
• 1:00:21
  lapses are done are you dealing with all of the issues that actually affect absorption because
• 1:00:27
  you may be eating right and not even absorbed as it was your take it in like what what are you
• 1:00:31
  doing to try gut health yes because you may just be passing all the nutrients right right
• 1:00:36
  yeah your body has no idea what to even do with what's taking place I guess that far not in the
• 1:00:41
  gut health so there are people who eat grape and continue to struggle and and can't move like
• 1:00:49
  they're spending thousands of dollars in supplements over the course of a month and you know
• 1:00:53
  I laughed at it I worked for me at one point he saw my supplement stack which is absurd and it's
• 1:00:59
  true and and he wanted he's like I got to get some chips like what do you take tell me what you
• 1:01:03
  take so I can do that and like what I'll tell you what I do but what I do is because of my latest
• 1:01:09
  labors on rise not because this is what I recommend for him nobody so he's just like well just give
• 1:01:14
  me that so I'll just look all these things up anyways and I'm like sure whatever so he took the
• 1:01:18
  list and I've got all my supplement stack all organized and it's in four different categories and
• 1:01:22
  one is you know one of my categories is for nutritional supplementation like if there are
• 1:01:26
  things that I just don't eat enough of I need to know how to supplement that yeah one is longevity
• 1:01:30
  focused and then one is is antioxidant focused and then y'all whatever and one is performance stack
• 1:01:37
  like there are some things I do that I just do for performance space they've nothing to do with
• 1:01:42
  within like I'll do spermy day blower because I think it's just good for anybody
• 1:01:47
  same thing oh and the same thing with resbaratrol you're like all the but I've keep this that
• 1:01:52
  hey determined comes back to my I was a couple of those I was like I looked up all your supplements
• 1:01:56
  he's like you're like swallowing a car payment like mm-hmm like that yes yeah and he's just like
• 1:02:03
  I can't I can't afford that no one asks you to don't you don't have to yeah get back to the
• 1:02:09
  basic that's it figure out your nutrition figure out your lifestyle who it is I'm innocent dude
• 1:02:14
  strange right yeah it is and supplements are there to supplement what you're missing so in our
• 1:02:20
  subtle you know I I want to tell you this um me and Queenie went on vacation we go over
• 1:02:27
  year of Florida and I got home from the trip and you know I I trust me I spend my time
• 1:02:31
  of the ocean when I'm there like that's all I care to do whether you're an older and I I
• 1:02:36
  liver values were off the chart I thought man I use some charms and I got that okay this is
• 1:02:40
  you know which did damage like you know and this was you six months prior but I think you know
• 1:02:46
  and uh for two and a half years my ALT and my AST work it started in 300s and my doctor after like
• 1:02:55
  it wasn't that big a deal which I knew you know better off it it wasn't but I I just kept hovering
• 1:03:00
  at like one nineteen and ninety for ALC AST and I just couldn't do and I you know Siggy's a good
• 1:03:07
  friend of mine we did two fiber scans and he's like man you have the liver of like
• 1:03:12
  he was he but it's like the best that he ever see on fiber scans I just did a city scan
• 1:03:17
  after my liver was doing crazy stuff I just did a scan with them and they're like no your
• 1:03:22
  liver is like going easy yeah showing off right that's what he told me well you know what I I don't
• 1:03:29
  want I'm not pushing a product here by any stress with this this was my key was glue to find
• 1:03:34
  yeah and that's Dr. Patel who I think is one of the most brilliant and kind Dr. Nayan Patel
• 1:03:41
  that does oral like good friend he is he does topical blue pit glue if that's what I started to
• 1:03:47
  use and I had and I was talking about this on think I'm my video about when I do a video I
• 1:03:54
  said I'm not gonna sit here and spew a bunch of BS about this product for science I'm showing
• 1:03:59
  you right here on this paper that in two and a half months when I was stuck for two and a half
• 1:04:03
  years this is down to forty and thirty eight that is not my access I didn't change anything
• 1:04:10
  nothing most people would do it is found to fish I had to it and it is like the body's natural
• 1:04:15
  in and thigh box that is like the the best anti yes in the world and most people are deficient I am
• 1:04:21
  yes I know that and Nayan is a good friend and hence it's amazing the top of the aura I rub it
• 1:04:27
  rub it on I still do on my stomach because that's what he told me on a podcast but regardless
• 1:04:32
  anywhere that you don't have hair Ryan and I'm telling you man I'll never not use it again
• 1:04:36
  that breathy but well because things like that and I and my even my mercury level went way down
• 1:04:43
  what do I do yes now branded my mercury level got high because when I changed my diet it was
• 1:04:48
  eco-frican salmon like six days a week which is not ideal I don't care how good it is for you
• 1:04:53
  but and and I'm sure that me winding that down help I need to actually use more his product
• 1:04:58
  I'll just it's just talking with him of a4n that he was ponby and she's awesome yeah he's
• 1:05:03
  actually and supposed to be on his podcast actually in the month or so he's really she yeah all
• 1:05:08
  he's one of my few partners that I work with one of my air if you and I'm me and Dave are the only
• 1:05:13
  two non doctors that he acts they are partners yes yes he's all this but yeah no he's fantastic
• 1:05:20
  and his product because I had the exact same issue with mercury but I actually discovered this
• 1:05:26
  is crazy when I was 14 or 15 I had two amaldos and wow and literally I was doing in a liguscan
• 1:05:36
  in a liguscan you're familiar with the oliguscan right yes years ago didn't a liguscan and found
• 1:05:41
  out mercury toxicity so on and it never occurred to me is it is involved as we are in this space
• 1:05:49
  sometimes the obvious and I ended up going to a to a biological dentist and at the
• 1:05:54
  valley put on their hazmat suits and it nothing else to get him out and got rid of the amalgams
• 1:06:00
  and I'm like okay now I need to deal with mercury toxicity because nothing that I was doing was
• 1:06:05
  working and I'm like and I was using the fluid aside and no it was in my body because I'm
• 1:06:09
  literally heading to the amaldos but yeah I actually just bringing him a West Palm Beach you know I
• 1:06:15
  met him when we went to a tram in December of 24 yeah I went there specifically to watch a
• 1:06:25
  speech and I normally don't go to a lot of speeches and we got in there a little early and he was
• 1:06:29
  talking and I just was like enthralled and I go and do well with speeches right just like I get
• 1:06:35
  I'm all over the place right so that's got to be something special and I couldn't I couldn't stop
• 1:06:39
  well I'm gonna tell you my the first time I'm now I was the opposite I was speaking and he ended
• 1:06:46
  up coming up to me oh after the speech and introducing himself I was like no I don't know this guy
• 1:06:52
  and then he introduced into like some breakies and like a really we were actually I was talking at a
• 1:06:57
  hyperbaric convention in Pensacola and funny enough I was talking to their like VIP group but my
• 1:07:04
  first book that I ever published is called date your clients and it is literally like a juxtaposition
• 1:07:10
  between the way that we deal in personal relationships and the way we deal in business relationships
• 1:07:14
  oh the seed day yeah and as I so I was actually talking to this group of practitioners about
• 1:07:20
  how do you increase your volume through your clinic and how do you end up with sticky your
• 1:07:24
  business and so so for sort of more of a business lecture and and it was so funny because
• 1:07:30
  nine comes up to me at the end and he's like I just want to introduce me so you just said what
• 1:07:34
  I've been saying for years and like ten needs to know this and well I feel like so we've been
• 1:07:39
  buddies else like those years ago he's so funny it's funny because I saw him speak and then I
• 1:07:43
  started my podcast on like six months later as one of the the stuff start rolling in and that
• 1:07:49
  somebody wrote me want to get him on my show and that's how I met him and then I just hit it
• 1:07:54
  off with him just like he's classy he's good friends with my buddy I need to introduce you
• 1:07:58
  Sanjay Bojaraj do you know Sanjay no I think he goes by the curious cardiologist all you got
• 1:08:04
  to introduce super cool yeah well Sanjay is amazing and he's actually really good friends
• 1:08:08
  with knives as well I would love about yeah well I guess as usual when we talk we the long I know
• 1:08:14
  I'm like this has got to be longer than it is greedy warning a little bit of going to time
• 1:08:18
  and I just kind of ignore because I had so many things I still want to I appreciate that the the
• 1:08:24
  notice but I just kind of allow whatever oh man well that's the beauty of not have me being in my
• 1:08:31
  paid studio where when they come up there I got to stop or they're gonna charge me for over just
• 1:08:36
  said well no you're hearing this ends us when I say like no over time no well dude like I said one
• 1:08:44
  I mean like the biggest thank you again for what you did for me yesterday and you know I know
• 1:08:50
  you played a role in me coming here that I didn't even know about till yesterday and I think the
• 1:08:58
  the not even I don't want to call it a friendship because I feel like it's like a family that
• 1:09:02
  quick and I just know and I don't say that lightly and I don't offer that or it's not like it's
• 1:09:10
  some big deal that you're that I consider you that like for you I don't want to act like that
• 1:09:14
  for to me it is um and uh I told you I meet thousands and thousands of people but the ones that
• 1:09:21
  make the biggest mark on me are the ones I want to be around forever and you're one of those few
• 1:09:25
  and far between so thank you for that thank you for what you do thank you for the message thank you
• 1:09:31
  for you know I always want to say when somebody's bold and what they do but it's just for doing what
• 1:09:38
  your spokes do for doing God's will and doing what was intended to do I appreciate that more than
• 1:09:44
  anything all of this is amazing it is but to me the biggest thing I appreciate of all of it and you
• 1:09:50
  could give me anything it's just the messaging man it's just the messaging from one to another
• 1:09:57
  that's why we got to stick together you know so thank you for all of this
• 1:10:01
  block dude I can't it's been a been a blast didn't know you last while in the feeling couldn't be
• 1:10:07
  well mutual well you are the man my friend and I appreciate all of this and I have a feeling this
• 1:10:12
  is part one of a million that we're going to do so well thank you and uh you know it's been a blast
• 1:10:19
  you're queen amazing and you're kind of part of the fixtures now I love it well count me in
• 1:10:25
  for good now you're stuck with us zulf who is she she's part of the package so um
• 1:10:32
  from changing lives and destiny from this amazing conference that I hope to be a part of forever
• 1:10:37
  now as well with my good friend mark young stay tuned for plenty more come dill and jameleon mark young
• 1:10:44
  sire now