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The Kenny Report | 27 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Lone from the Scoing New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The Iranian terror attacks on our soil, the Coalition attacks
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  Speaker 2: the Albanese government for years of inaction. I'll speak with
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  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson, Senator James Patterson and Senator Michaelia Cash Labor
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  Speaker 2: and the Bush. Anthony Albanezi reckons camera is a country town. Also,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get the latest on the manhuntful Victoria's alleged police killer.
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  Speaker 2: We'll also keep coverage over a press conference the Victorian
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  Speaker 2: PREMI Premier is about to give in Melbourne on that
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  Speaker 2: very topic, and in the Wednesday Wrangle tonight with Justin
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  Speaker 2: Smith and Deneka to Georgio. There's plenty of that serious stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll also check in on Taylor Swift's wedding plans.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it. The extent of.
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  Speaker 2: The security crisis for Australia is only just starting to
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  Speaker 2: sink in as Asy and the federal government warned that
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  Speaker 2: the malevolent Islamist hand of Iran might have played a
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  Speaker 2: role in many more anti Semitic attacks in Australia. Above
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  Speaker 2: and beyond Melbourne's Adas Synagogue blaze and the Lewis's continental
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  Speaker 2: fire bombing in Sydney last year. The Iranian ambassador to Australia,
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  Speaker 2: who was officially now a persona non grata, must leave
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  Speaker 2: the country, but he was seen leaving and returning to
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  Speaker 2: his ambassadorial residence. Today authorities believe he was not involved
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  Speaker 2: in his country's firebombing plots or even aware of Iran's involvement.
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  Speaker 2: The blame for these terrorist acts on our shores, and
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  Speaker 2: that is what they are, overseas terrorist acts conducted on
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  Speaker 2: our soil. The blame is sheeted home by Asio to
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  Speaker 2: actors overseas in Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard corpse. But as
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  Speaker 2: I showed you last night, what has unfolded in Australia
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  Speaker 2: takes us directly to the weakness we have seen by
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and the Albanesi Labor government when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to standing up to Iran and against anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 2: And this theme was taken up strongly by the opposition
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament today.
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  Speaker 3: We called on the government to expel the ambassador last
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  Speaker 3: year and demanded the IIGC be listed as a terrorist
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  Speaker 3: organization more than two years ago. Since then, the Iranian
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  Speaker 3: regime has sponsored attacks on Australian soil, Prime Minister, why
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  Speaker 3: didn't you act sooner when the warnings were so clear
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  Speaker 3: and the risks so grave.
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  Speaker 4: We listened to intelligence agencies. We don't try to second
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  Speaker 4: guess them. We don't as occurred with the caravan incident.
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  Speaker 4: We wait for the proper advice, We get proper briefings,
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  Speaker 4: and then we act on it.
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  Speaker 2: Look, they act when the agencies tell them. That is
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  Speaker 2: effectively Albanesi's argument, don't blame us. We just what we're told.
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  Speaker 2: But he was elected to lead and you only have
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  Speaker 2: to go back to the day of the synagogue fire
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  Speaker 2: bombing in Melbourne to grasp Albanesi's sense of national security priorities.
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  Speaker 5: The Prime Minister playing tennis in Perth on Saturday as
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  Speaker 5: terror gripped Melbourne's Jewish community.
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  Speaker 6: It speaks volumes about the Prime Minister's priorities.
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  Speaker 5: Anthony Albanesi under attack for opting to continue campaigning in
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  Speaker 5: Western Australia rather than boarding a plane to visit the
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  Speaker 5: still smoldering ruins of the Abbas Synagogue.
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  Speaker 6: I think it is his Hawaiian moment.
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  Speaker 5: A reference to former PM Scott Morrison's infamous decision to
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  Speaker 5: take holidays during the Black Summer bush fires.
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  Speaker 4: I did some exercise, that's what That's what people do.
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  Speaker 2: This is all a peace with everything we've seen on
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  Speaker 2: these issues from the Prime Minister. Reactive, not proactive, defensive
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  Speaker 2: not aggressive. This is not a matter of hindsight. Is
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  Speaker 2: be called out long ago.
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  Speaker 1: Have you had any.
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  Speaker 7: Contact with the Iranian ambassador following those stripes overnight?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: Hope you well, I've been here in Melbourne, so no,
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  Speaker 4: I have not sport the Iranian films.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 4: The government condemns any support for terrorist organizations such as hesblah.
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  Speaker 4: We condemned the ambassador's comments. Australia has maintained a diplomatic
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  Speaker 4: relationship with Iran since nineteen sixty eight. That has been continuous,
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  Speaker 4: not because we agree with the regime, but because it's
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  Speaker 4: in Australia's national interest. It has never been an endorsement
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  Speaker 4: of the regime, but it has been a channel to
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  Speaker 4: protect Australia's interests and to communicate.
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  Speaker 1: Our views and the views of.
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  Speaker 4: Our ally those like minded countries.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Albanesi refused to back opposition calls to list the
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  Speaker 2: Revolutionary Guards and end diplomatic relations with Iran. He refused
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  Speaker 2: to support Israel's attack on Israel's nuclear and missile facilities
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  Speaker 2: earlier this year. He was even slow to back the
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  Speaker 2: US when it took out the Iranian nuclear weapons sites.
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  Speaker 2: For weeks, months, and years, the focus on Iran has
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  Speaker 2: come from all directions, but it's fallen on Albanese's deaf ears.
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  Speaker 8: Countries including Australia, should be looking at how stronger action
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  Speaker 8: can be taken against Iran.
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  Speaker 9: Joe Biden has been absolutely appalling in the appeasement of Iran.
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  Speaker 9: The only reason these terrorists have the wherewithal to carry
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  Speaker 9: out the appalling attacks on October the seventh was because
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  Speaker 9: he took the sanctions off Iran in return for absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 1: This is all about Iran.
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  Speaker 10: I have been calling four months for Australia to reconsider
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  Speaker 10: its diplomatic relations with Iran. Why are we giving that
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  Speaker 10: country a legitimacy of a diplomatic relationship, particularly when Iran
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  Speaker 10: is the great exporter of terror.
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  Speaker 3: The Iranian goal is very clear, it is to wape
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  Speaker 3: Israel afeter Earth.
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  Speaker 11: If anybody doesn't now recognize all of the real dynamics
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  Speaker 11: that we're going on, the central role of Iran, the
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  Speaker 11: role it played in destabilizing and torturing the peoples of
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  Speaker 11: Syria and Lebanon, and the interference in Iraq, the terrible
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  Speaker 11: conflicts in Yemen, and what Hamas and has Balara been
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  Speaker 11: up to. Now that has been completely revealed.
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  Speaker 2: The only way to deal with Iran, which is a
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  Speaker 2: theocratic ideological regime, is to be tough with them. And
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  Speaker 2: so while the Prime Minister might not like it, it
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  Speaker 2: was unavoidable that the probing would continue in Parliament today.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, the Senate References Canity on Foreign Affairs,
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  Speaker 3: Defense and Trade recommended that the Australian government list the
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  Speaker 3: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization. Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 3: why did your government take a deliberate decision to reject
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  Speaker 3: that recommendation two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Speaker.
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  Speaker 4: On these issues, we take advice from the intelligence agencies.
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  Speaker 4: We go through our appropriate processes, including a National Security Committee.
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  Speaker 4: We look at the legislation, which at the moment would
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  Speaker 4: not enable us to list the legislation that we inherited
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  Speaker 4: as well from the former government.
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  Speaker 1: Yet he is listing them now. He's changing the law
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  Speaker 1: with coalition support.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine our labor would be reacting now, if this was
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  Speaker 2: happening under a coalition government, the police and intelligence agencies
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  Speaker 2: have long spoken publicly about overseas influence in anti Semitic attacks,
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  Speaker 2: the government would have been told more behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: and any manner of experts have been saying the prime
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  Speaker 2: suspect for such nefarious activities in this country would be Iran.
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  Speaker 1: And the question arises now about.
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  Speaker 2: What's been happening in other nations, in the US and
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  Speaker 2: the UK and across Europe, where they have been consistent
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  Speaker 2: and repeated anti Israel protests and horrible instances of anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitic violence. Has the hand of Iran been at play there?
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  Speaker 2: Surely they're not only interested in Australia. And what about
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  Speaker 2: those protests in Australia demanding a free Palestine from the
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  Speaker 2: river to the sea, the elimination of Israel, chanting also
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  Speaker 2: for into fada or terrorism uprisings against Israel. Have these
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  Speaker 2: protests influenced the Albanezi government stirred up by Iranian influence?
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  Speaker 2: Have they helped to deliver the promise of recognition for
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  Speaker 2: Palestine for Palestinians from Australia. Has Iran's interference in Australia
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  Speaker 2: not only divided the community, created fear and intimidation, but
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  Speaker 2: also helped to deliver a political outcome that, to me
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  Speaker 2: is the key point.
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  Speaker 1: If Albanezi's change on.
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  Speaker 2: Middle East policy has rewarded the terrorists of Hmas, it's
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  Speaker 2: also rewarded the state sponsored terrorism of Iran. Yet the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister insists he's been hard at work.
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  Speaker 4: We committed twenty five million dollars for improved safety and
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  Speaker 4: security at Jewish sites across the country, including schools. We
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  Speaker 4: added to that within twenty four hours of being requested,
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  Speaker 4: thirty two point five million dollars for security measures for
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  Speaker 4: schools and set synagogues. We passed legislation to criminalized hate speech.
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  Speaker 4: We provided two hundred and fifty thousand dollars towards the
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  Speaker 4: replacement restoration of Taurus scrolls in the Adas Israel Synagogue,
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  Speaker 4: one point two million dollars for security upgrades.
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  Speaker 1: To current buildings, and thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Million dollars to restore the synagogue and community center.
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  Speaker 2: And on and on he went with other initiatives, mostly
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  Speaker 2: spending initiatives.
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  Speaker 1: He just doesn't get it, does he.
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  Speaker 2: Albaneazy failed on leadership, on setting the tone and the
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  Speaker 2: standards for our nation. He failed to call out the
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  Speaker 2: hate preachers celebrating the slaughter of innocent Israelis nearly two
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  Speaker 2: years ago. He should have gone to the very street
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  Speaker 2: corner where they preached that hate and demanded they repudiate
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  Speaker 2: those calls and explained that these sentiments were unacceptable in
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  Speaker 2: this country. Instead, he went to the nearby lakember Mosk
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  Speaker 2: and ignored the issue entirely, And when the protests and
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  Speaker 2: the ugliness took over the Opera House for court the
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  Speaker 2: following night, he should have demanded police enforcement of laws
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  Speaker 2: against hate speech and terrorist symbols. In diplomacy, Albanesi should
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  Speaker 2: have offered strong support for Israel and demanded the release
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  Speaker 2: of all hostages every day as the first step towards peace.
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  Speaker 2: He should never have entertained the recognition of a non
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  Speaker 2: existent Palestinian state as a way of appeasing Humas. As
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  Speaker 2: I've said for twenty two months now, Alberizi has been weak.
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  Speaker 1: On these issues.
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  Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnahu says Albanesi has been weak,
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  Speaker 2: caving into the anti Israel activists. Now, the Iranians deny
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  Speaker 2: any wrongdoing, and they also accuse Albanesi of being weak
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  Speaker 2: saying he's caved into Netnahoo. Albanesi just says he does
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  Speaker 2: what government agencies tell him to do, so he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even claim strong leadership for his self. So the consensus
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  Speaker 2: seems to match the evidence. We have a week prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister at a time when strength is needed. Yet another
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  Speaker 2: chapter was written today in the saga over Brittany Higgins's
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  Speaker 2: alleged rape in Parliament House. The allegations, of course, date
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  Speaker 2: back to the claimed sexual assault in March twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: where Higgins says fellow Liberal staff of Bruce Lherman raped
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  Speaker 2: her in the office of the minister they both worked for,
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  Speaker 2: Linda Reynolds. The pair had gone back to the building
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  Speaker 2: late at night after drinking at Canberra bars. The allegations
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  Speaker 2: were not made public until almost two years later, in February.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, when Higgins and her partner.
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  Speaker 2: David Scheraz took the story to the media, initially through
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  Speaker 2: Channel ten's The Project and news dot com dot Au.
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  Speaker 2: It immediately became a political firestorm, with Higgins claiming Reynolds
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  Speaker 2: tried to prevent her taking the complaint to police and
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  Speaker 2: that she was mistreated by her employer. This story was
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  Speaker 2: weaponized in politics and the media to try to portray
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  Speaker 2: the Morrison coalition government as anti women and even misogynistic.
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  Speaker 2: Higgins became prominent in women's rallies attacking the government and
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  Speaker 2: especially then Prime Minister Scott Morrison. It was an ugly period,
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  Speaker 2: but politically effective in tainting the coalition government at the time.
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  Speaker 2: We all needed to respect the complaint of Higgins and
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  Speaker 2: the need for justice, but some of us expressed deep
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  Speaker 2: worries about trial by media.
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  Speaker 1: Most did not, however, in the media, as.
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  Speaker 2: The saga played out dramatically through the mainstream media before
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  Speaker 2: blowing up in a controversial and ultimately failed criminal court
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  Speaker 2: case that resulted in the charge against Lerman being dropped.
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  Speaker 2: Then there was another sensation when Lehmann sued Channel ten
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  Speaker 2: for defamation and lost, with the Federal court finding that
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  Speaker 2: on the balance of probabilities, Lehman had raped Higgins that night.
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  Speaker 2: Lehman is currently appealing that verdict. What a horrible saga.
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  Speaker 2: But Reynolds sued Higgins and her partner Sharaz over their
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  Speaker 2: public claims against her. She always said she helped Higgins
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  Speaker 2: go to the police and offered her all the support
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  Speaker 2: and care she could, and today she won with a
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  Speaker 2: defamation verdict in her favor, awarding more than three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and thirty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 12: I was falsely accused of conspiring with the then Prime
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  Speaker 12: Minister to cover up the rape of a young woman
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  Speaker 12: in my office. This lie was so shocking, it was
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  Speaker 12: so despicable and so devastating that I had no choice
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  Speaker 12: but to stand up to all and keep fighting, no
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  Speaker 12: matter how many times I was knocked down. This lie
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  Speaker 12: devastated me, It devastated to my staff, It devastated my
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  Speaker 12: family and so many friends.
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  Speaker 2: This is a huge victory, not just for Reynolds, but
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  Speaker 2: for truth in the political debate. Whatever happened in Parliament
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  Speaker 2: House that night, and most likely we will never know
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  Speaker 2: for certain, there is no doubt that the weight of
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  Speaker 2: evidence shows there was no political conspiracy behind it, no
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  Speaker 2: cover up, and that Higgins was given proper support by
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  Speaker 2: her then employers in the coalition government. There is still
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  Speaker 2: much to play out Lehman's appeal in the other defamation
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  Speaker 2: case and the issue of costs for Higgins in this case.
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  Speaker 2: It is, of course a sorry episode in so many ways,
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  Speaker 2: but at least the political conspiracy theory has now been exposed,
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  Speaker 2: a political conspiracy that never stacked up at the time,
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  Speaker 2: but which many in the media ran hard on because
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  Speaker 2: it suited their anti coalition narrative. Thankfully, the truth usually
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  Speaker 2: does come out, but sometimes it takes an inordinately long time.
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  Speaker 2: Now I want to go to the latest news on
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  Speaker 2: the shocking events in Victoria, with the police there now
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  Speaker 2: identifying the two offers who were shot dead while executing
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  Speaker 2: a search warrant at the home of the heavily armed
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  Speaker 2: gunman in the state's north The alleged killer is still
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  Speaker 2: at large. Reporter Harry Clark joins us from Poor Punker,
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  Speaker 2: and Harry give us the details on these officers who
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  Speaker 2: died on a normal day of service for their community.
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  Speaker 13: Good evening, Chris Well, it really hits home to put
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  Speaker 13: faces to this horrific crime that happened here in Victoria's
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  Speaker 13: northwest about ten o'clock yesterday, and as you say, late
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  Speaker 13: this afternoon, Victoria police have identified the two officers who
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  Speaker 13: had gunned down in a close range execution style killing
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  Speaker 13: when they carried out a search warrant on a property
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  Speaker 13: in this town of Poor Punk. At their names, Detective
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  Speaker 13: leading its senior Constable Neil Thompson, he's fifty nine years old,
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  Speaker 13: and the other slain officer he's thirty five year old,
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  Speaker 13: Senior Constable Vadim Devar. They were both part of a team,
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  Speaker 13: a ten strong team that went to carry out that
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  Speaker 13: search warrant at a secluded property just to the north
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  Speaker 13: west of Poor Punky yesterday. They bought it a bus
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  Speaker 13: which was the dwelling where this alleged offender lived and
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  Speaker 13: they were sprung upon. It was an airbush of sorts.
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  Speaker 13: They were both shot at close range and there has
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  Speaker 13: been a major police operation and a manhunt underway ever since.
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  Speaker 1: Can you tell us about the police operation?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously it's getting dark, they're going into the second night
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  Speaker 2: of this operation. Do the belief have a Do the
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  Speaker 2: police have a strong idea of exactly where the gunment
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  Speaker 2: is that they got him surrounded? What do you think
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  Speaker 2: is happening likely to unfold in the next twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 13: It's hard to know. It's surprising that there hasn't been
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  Speaker 13: an arrest or an exchange and police are taking out
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  Speaker 13: this gunman yet. As you say, we're going on thirty
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  Speaker 13: two hours since this moment of madness unfolded and there's
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  Speaker 13: still no result. It's hard to know, Chris, from where
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  Speaker 13: we're standing, and as a member of the public and
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  Speaker 13: as a journalist and for residents here in this alpine region,
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  Speaker 13: the instruction is and indeed there's been another text message
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  Speaker 13: sent out from authorities late this afternoon to remain indoors,
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  Speaker 13: be vigilant, don't move around if you don't have to,
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  Speaker 13: And that's because police continue to surge what is very
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  Speaker 13: dense wooded timbered area in this alpine region. It's the
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  Speaker 13: area around Mount Buffalo, the foot of Mount Buffalo, which
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  Speaker 13: is just to the west of Poor Punker. You can't
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  Speaker 13: see exactly what's going on from anywhere that the public's
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  Speaker 13: allowed to be. There's a lot of road closures. But
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  Speaker 13: what we do see is from time to time a
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  Speaker 13: bit of activity stir up from this forward Forward command
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  Speaker 13: post where I'm standing now. It's a winery just outside
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  Speaker 13: Poor Punker and it's serving as a makeshift staging area
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  Speaker 13: for this major police response. So they head out in
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  Speaker 13: convoys at different times, and the choppers are deployed to
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  Speaker 13: the air to look at new search zones. And there
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  Speaker 13: has been reports this afternoon of two gunshots coming from
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  Speaker 13: the vicinity of a new police search area, which we
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  Speaker 13: understand is centered around a home. But we haven't heard
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  Speaker 13: any latest from police since that activity this afternoon, so
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  Speaker 13: we just don't know whether the police know where this
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  Speaker 13: man is or whether they're still looking for him, whether
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  Speaker 13: they know where they're in and they're surrounding him and
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  Speaker 13: waiting for, say, for working out a means by which
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  Speaker 13: they can come in, and whether that's to take him
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  Speaker 13: out with the gunshots, or whether they can do anything
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  Speaker 13: to try and rest. But it was interesting this afternoon
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  Speaker 13: to listen to Tim McCurdy, who is the national MP
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  Speaker 13: for this local Ovens Valley area, and he said that
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  Speaker 13: the fear is that this man's got nothing to lose.
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  Speaker 13: He's gunned down two police officers, he's fled into the bush,
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  Speaker 13: he's in hiding, he's got himself surrounded, and it would
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  Speaker 13: seem he's got nothing to lose. So there's a sense
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  Speaker 13: of the community being a little bit on edge here.
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  Speaker 13: As Tim McCurdy said, they're not scared of what's going on,
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  Speaker 13: but listening to the vice of authorities and they just
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  Speaker 13: don't want to make sure they get between this man
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  Speaker 13: and whatever it is he wants to do next.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, Harry, thanks so much for that update. That's Harry
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  Speaker 2: Clark Scotty. He's will put alive from Paul Punker in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful part of the country, but horrible events unfolding. They're
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  Speaker 2: very cold at the moment, with some more bad weather
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  Speaker 2: coming in. Perhaps that this could flush the gunment out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope so and listen to those It is about
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing in that area now, speaking of cold,
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming to you tonight from Canberra. I'm here in
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  Speaker 2: our Parliament House studios.
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  Speaker 1: Right inside the bubble.
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  Speaker 2: So I was kind of taken aback by what the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister said this morning when he was just down
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  Speaker 2: the road at Waga at the Bush Summit. Haven't listen here,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: listen here to some of these chat with the Daily
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  Speaker 2: Telegraphs editor Ben English.
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  Speaker 14: Good to get out of Merrickiel, isn't he Well?
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  Speaker 4: I don't get to go to Merrickflel very often these days,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you know. And Camber is, of course Australia's largest inland city.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Important thing. It has that feel, I've got to say,
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: of a more regional community, and when you walk around
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: there you just feel a bit more relaxed than you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: do in a big city like Sydney.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Joining me now on the desk is One Nation leader
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: paul In, handsome, Pauling, great to see you in the flesh.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But what about this? I reckons this is
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: regional Australia. The Canberra bubble is regional Australia.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Have a clue what the hell he's talking about. He's
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: been here too much. He hasn't really got out into
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: really areas of regional rule Australia to actually understand what's
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: happening out there. If he thinks this is it, No,
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: it's not it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I thought this is the most because it an insulated
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: community in the country.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Lovely though it is, but it's hardly a regional Australia.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think they brag about renewable energy, for instance
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: in the Act, but there's not a lot of gin
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: turbines on the landscape here. They're all out across thew.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: From New South. They don't get it through renewables here.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: That's in played hope.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Now let me bring you to the most serious issue
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: of the day. This is the follow up, of course,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to those Iranian sponsored terror attacks in our country. The
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: coalition going hard today that Labour's been soft on a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: run four years, refusing to end diplomatic relations, refusing to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: list the Revolutionary Regard as a terror organization.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Do they have a case.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: Of course they have a case. I said the same
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: two years ago in October twenty three, that we should
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: pull our embassy out of Tehran and that we should
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: actually get rid of the embassy here in Australia. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: I said exactly the same words, and I just did
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: the speech again on the floora palment of the regards
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: to it. So the writing was on the wall. This
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: government has been just blindsided by it. They weren't upfront,
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: they weren't telling the people of what was happening in Australia.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: The evidence was there, Chris, and to see this happen now,
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: I'm glad it's happened. I'm glad they've acted on it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: A little bit too late, isn't it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 15: Well.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: We saw in one of the Prime Minister's answers there
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: today he's saying, well, basically making excuses for not acting
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: on recommendations to list the Revolutionary Guard because under the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: existing legislation.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: They couldn't do it. Well, now they're doing it. But
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: if it requires new legislation. That's the point they could
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: have done it earlier.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: That has come out in their recommendation from the Reference
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Committee that they actually recommended to on Recommendation number eight,
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: they said to actually list it and they didn't. The
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: government did nothing about it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to ask you about a petition you've
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: got going.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: When it comes to patriots in this country. It is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a Trumpian thing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know who thought of this first, but Donald
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Trump is looking at changing the law to increased penalties
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: for burning the American flag, and you've got a petition
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: going to make it a similar criminal offense here that
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: people should serve a hefty penalty if they burn our flag.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Much support in the Parliament for that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: We've received over to thirty two thousand votes petitions people
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: that sign the petition. So if you want to go
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: and sign the petition. I think it's very important to
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: protect our Australian flag. Chris Hofer were already put up
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: something on the floor apartment years ago with respects of
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: protecting our Australian flag. And I'm going to fight for
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: that because it's very important to me, very important people
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: that have actually fought under that flag and what it
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: represents as Australians, our national identity, who we are, Australian's
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: pride within our nation, moral values, laws and everything like that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: And it's just been you know, it's thrown to one
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: side as if it should belong the rubbish bin. That's
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: how it's been treated by too many activists in this
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: country and governments have gone along with it. And to
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: see the flag burnt on the floor of you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: on our streets by protesters, you know that's not good enough,
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: and the government doesn't do anything about it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Most of the protests in this country seem to hate
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the Australian flag. They fly all sorts of other flags
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and burn our flag. What if people are supporting peace
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and all those sorts of good things, why wouldn't they
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: be waving around an Australian flag.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: Because they're not proud to be Australians. And see those
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: protests rellies with all the Palestinian flags and you have
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: the har Musk flag and trying. They even flew the
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: har Musk flag here Teriff's flag from the Parliament building
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: here for two hours before it was taken down.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Disgraceful speaking about right being in the camera bubble. Are
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: you going to the Midwinter ball tonight, the charity ball
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: here in Parliament House.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: Well tell you truth, I did not was on on
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: the driver said Sam last night you said you're going.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: I said no, thank you, I said the too lefty
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: for me there. I don't want to be around.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Well I'm going to confess some going so I'll be
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the spy there one for the time.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Interesting.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Pulling Hanson. Great to have you live
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: on the desk for a chase coming down to camera,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Pulling Hanson, they're the one Nation leader.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: On the other side, we're going to talk about Labour
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: refusing the rule out taxes. The Shadow Finance Minister James
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Patterson will join me in the studio too, So if
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm crossing down to Canberra, it's good to be here
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and catch up with our regular gifts in the flesh
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: in the studio and joining me now is the Shadow
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Finance Minister James Patterson.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Good to see you.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: James could be with you man, just to get you
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: on your portfolio to start with. There's been a lot
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: of debate lately about possible new taxes ideas raised at
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the Productivity.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Roundtable tell us where we're heading with this stuff.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, the idea of taxing people because they have
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: empty bedrooms is outrageous. It's our property, not the governments.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: There are some pretty wacky ideas out there at the moment,
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: and it is very telling that the alban as a
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: government is not even willing to rule out the craziest
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: ideas in the public debate at the moment, let alone
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: somewhat more mainstream mines. The crux of this problem crease
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: is that Jim Chalmers has let spending get out of
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: control this financial year, it'll be the highest level as
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: a proportion of the economy since nineteen eighty six side
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: the pandemic, and his only way of fixing that problem
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: is by raising taxes. So he's softening the ground trying
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: to prepare us for tax increases that Labor did not
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: take to the election. In fact, they ruled out at
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: the election and said it was a Liberal party scare
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: campaign to suggest they would raise taxes after election. But
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: that is where I fear we are headed, particularly with
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: their coalition partners in the Greens helping them to control
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: the Senate.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: It looks like the Productivity Round table was really an
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: idea to build up and pretend there's a consensus for
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: some of these ideas. Here's the Assistant Treasurer.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: What I will say, Speaker is that those opposite have
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: reduced themselves and when it comes.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: To tax to this rule to this rule in rule
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: out game, what.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: I would say is our tax policies have not changed.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: It's to reduce taxes on taxpayers and that's what I
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: stick by it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Well, there are James.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: It's pretty clearly they refused to rule out any tax increases.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: If they weren't going to increased taxes, the easiest thing
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: in the world would be to say we're not going
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: to increase taxes. And it is telling because the Prime
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: Minister did start to rule this sort of stuff out
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: about a week ago. He said, of course we're not
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: going to do anything in this term that we didn't
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: take to the election. But he hasn't repeated that since.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Jim Chalmers has never said it, and they're certainly not
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: saying it in the Parliament where they're bound to tell
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: the truth.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Well, with spending at record levels and taxation at record levels,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty obvious that the problem isn't the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: low tax. We need to get spending down, but that's
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: pretty unpopular thing to do. I want to tap into
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: your national security brain, even though it's not in your
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: portfolio area at the moment.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: My concern about what we now know about Iran.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: That firstly that alb and Easy and that Labor have
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: been so slow to act. So many people both within
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: this country, within the coalition, commentators at home and abroad,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: have been calling for action against Iran and Labor has
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: been so reluctant to act until now.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Why well, we welcome what the government has done and
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: it is the right response to this, but it shouldn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: have taken an incident this serious for them to realize
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: that the bilateral relationship in Iran is not in australia
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: national interest. In the last Parliament, when I was the
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: Shadow Minister for Home Affairs, I wrote to Clara Neil,
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: the Minister for Home Affairs, not once, not twice, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: three times, offering bipartisan support to change the law so
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: that the IRGC could be listed as a terrorist organization.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: And the government responded to me and my colleagues like
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Claire Chandler and Siling Birmingham and others and said not
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: only this could not be done, but it should not
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: be done because it would damage bilateral relationship with Iran. Now,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: at the very same time that we were anxiously worrying
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: about our bilateral relationship with Iran, they were setting synagogues
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: on fire in our community. So obviously the Uranians weren't
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: too worried about the state of the bilactual relationship. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: think that's the lesson here for the future. Never again
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: put a greater weight on a bilateral relationship with a
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: despotic regime than your own national interest and your own
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: national security.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I want to ask the question that I think is
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the big question that most Australians outside the political bubble
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: might be thinking about, and that is, has the Iranian
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: terror on our shores actually worked? Has the anti s
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Eematism and anti Israeling sentiment that they have helped to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: stir up on our streets and in our communities helped
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to push the Albanezy government to recognize the non existent
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: state of Palestine, therefore actually achieving the aims Iran was
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: setting out to achieve well.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: Iran would have had a couple of objectives from what
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: they did. The first would have been to terrorize the
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Jewish community. Well, unfortunately that has worked. The second was
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: to divide our country. Unfortunately that has worked. And the
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: third is to influence our foreign policy. And it appears
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: that that has worked too. And I think it is
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: particularly shameful on this government that they have bowed to
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: that pressure, that they bowed to that incitement, that they
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: bowed to that state sponsored terror.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, James, good to see them. Thank you,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Senator James Patterson. There, the Shadow Finance minis said, We've
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: got to take a break. On the other side, I'm
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: going to delve into this issue further as the opposition
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: attacks the government over years of inaction on Iran.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Ive got to catch up with a long time friend
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: of mine.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: We don't agree about much in politics, we don't agree
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: about much in footy. But John Schuman of Redgum Fame
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: has waded into the Isaac rankin AFL Grand Final entertainment
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: debate today and he joins me now live from Adelaide. Sure,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: he's great to see you. Look we might agree on
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: something for a change. What's your view on ISAAC ranking
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: being rubbed out possibly for the Grand Final and being
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: at an event where the AFL are spending two million
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: dollars bringing in Snoop dog.
• 31:31
  Speaker 14: Look, Conrade, can I just say what enjoy it is
• 31:34
  Speaker 14: to be with you deep behind enemy lines on sky News?
• 31:37
  Speaker 15: But look, yeah, we do agree.
• 31:40
  Speaker 14: I think it's absolutely ridiculous and I don't know where
• 31:42
  Speaker 14: these people get off. Frankly, I mean, the the AFL
• 31:48
  Speaker 14: management and presumably the board, possessed of all the wisdom
• 31:53
  Speaker 14: and intelligence and compassion really found outside the Trump White House,
• 32:00
  Speaker 14: punishes some young Indigenous kid to the extent that he's
• 32:04
  Speaker 14: got to flee overseas for his own mental health. At
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: the same time they spend two million dollars to hire
• 32:11
  Speaker 14: mister Dogg or mister Snoop Dogg to play at the
• 32:15
  Speaker 14: Grand Final. I just think the hypocrisism is boggling, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 14: I really don't understand where these entitled princelings at the
• 32:27
  Speaker 14: AFL get off. Let me be very clear, and I'm
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: sure Chris, you and I agree we don't condone homophobic
• 32:34
  Speaker 14: slurs or racist slurs or any of that stuff. That's
• 32:37
  Speaker 14: not the point. The point is the monumental hypocrisy. And
• 32:40
  Speaker 14: the other thing that drives me absolutely nuts is the
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: implication that there are no decent Australian artists who are
• 32:49
  Speaker 14: good enough to play at our games. AFL.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a spot on there. We both agree.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Of course there's going to be a sanction for a
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: homophobic slur. The issue is the proportionality of that punishment,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and of course, as you say, the hypocrisy because Snoop
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Dogg has all these records with homophobic slurs, sexist slurs,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: and yet they forget about all of that. I should
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: point out to our viewers you are no Adelaide Crow's fan.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: You're I don't buried for the same team.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: You're a port Adelaide man, so you're not running the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: team line here. I also think your point about Australian
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: artist is so important. You've long time, for many many
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: years been a great proponent for Australian artists getting used
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: in Australia, and this is an opportunity missed, isn't it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Well it is.
• 33:42
  Speaker 15: And look I'm not arguing my own case. I'm from Adelaide,
• 33:45
  Speaker 15: I'm not nearly important enough. But you know we have
• 33:49
  Speaker 15: Australian artists who are will able to play at an
• 33:53
  Speaker 15: event as big as that. Absolutely, and you know I
• 33:56
  Speaker 15: would also like to point out to your erudite viewers,
• 34:00
  Speaker 15: Comrade that I don't remember when the last time an
• 34:04
  Speaker 15: Australian artist was flown into America and paid a shipload
• 34:08
  Speaker 15: of money to play at the at the super Bowl,
• 34:12
  Speaker 15: you know. So I just think, whichever way you look
• 34:14
  Speaker 15: at this, you know, it's just a disaster for the AFL.
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: I mean. The other thing is you know that they're
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: they're very big on mental health, and that's great, it's
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: terrific because I'm a passionate supporter for giving mental health
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: issues oxygen and sunlight. But you can't kind of prosecute
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: the case of mental health among players and then do
• 34:38
  Speaker 14: something to an Indigenous kid that's going to seriously compromise
• 34:42
  Speaker 14: his mental health. I don't know what they're thinking. The
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: board needs to have a really good hard look at itself.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well let's say look after him and get him
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: back the great to get your thoughts, John, I appreciate it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Keep punching.
• 34:54
  Speaker 14: Always a pleasure, Chris Getty, always a pleasure.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: John Schuman there from Redgum and jump onto his website.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: They got some gigs coming up and a new live
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: album as well.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: But great to get these thoughts. They put out he
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: is a port Adelaide supporter.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: They don't normally get out and argue the case for
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: anyone in the Adelaide crows. Now, let's get back to
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the heart of the beast here in Parliament House and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the major issue of the day, of course, to fall
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: out from Iranian sponsored terror attacks looking to stir up
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: anti Semitism in this country.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I'm joined on the desk.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Again by the Shadow Foreign Minister, Senator Mikaylia Cash.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Good to see him, Great to be with you, Chris.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Now, a lot of pressure on Anthony Alberanezi today over
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: years of in action. His argument seems to be we
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: just sit here and wait for agencies to tell us
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: what to do. We're not proactive at all in Australian
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: diplomacy or national security.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Well that is He's actually right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 16: They sit on their hands and they wait for the
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: incidents to come to get them. This is a government
• 35:53
  Speaker 16: that quite frankly, in their entire time in office, has
• 35:57
  Speaker 16: never been serious about national security. Are always dragged kicking
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: and screaming to what the solution is, Chris. Mister Albanesi
• 36:07
  Speaker 16: today should have apologized to the Australian people for the
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: inaction of his labor government. How many warnings does mister
• 36:16
  Speaker 16: Albanesi need before he takes action? September twenty two, twenty three,
• 36:23
  Speaker 16: the death of the young Iranian one Massa Amani. Just
• 36:27
  Speaker 16: so Australians know what this was all about, because this
• 36:30
  Speaker 16: comes down to values. This beautiful young Iranian girl. She
• 36:35
  Speaker 16: was picked up by the morality police. Yes they have
• 36:38
  Speaker 16: them in Iran for a shizjab related incident. In other words,
• 36:43
  Speaker 16: she wasn't wearing it properly. Three days later she was dead.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: That wasn't enough.
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: There were protests in the streets in Australia October seventh,
• 36:53
  Speaker 16: twenty twenty three, when Hamasas, when Iran's proxy Kamas committed
• 37:00
  Speaker 16: atrocities in Israel. What more did mister Albanezi need? Well,
• 37:05
  Speaker 16: guess what state sponsored terror here in Australian soil where
• 37:09
  Speaker 16: Australians could have been killed?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And Chris, that wasn't enough for this government to act.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: It's extraordinary. And I asked the question. Now it's a
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: rhetorical one. I won't get no answer. But if this
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: series of events had unfolded with the Coalition government, where
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: there have been years of warnings and police to take
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: action against Iran and then this reality unfolds, there would
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: be all hell.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Breaking it out.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: They would be calling for.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: The media, demanding heads.
• 37:36
  Speaker 16: They would be calling for the minister to resign, the
• 37:38
  Speaker 16: ministers to resign, they would be calling for the Prime Minister,
• 37:42
  Speaker 16: quite frankly, to step aside. You've got to be Can
• 37:46
  Speaker 16: you honestly imagine what it would have been like? But
• 37:49
  Speaker 16: the point bankers would never have happened under us.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to come back to this issue of values,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: but you have something I talk about a lot on
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  Speaker 2: this program. I think it's so important we maintain our
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  Speaker 2: values and stand up for them, and that's been lacking
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  Speaker 2: in the past twenty two months.
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  Speaker 1: Since October the.
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  Speaker 2: Seventh, we have protests regularly in this country now where
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  Speaker 2: people chant from the river to the sea, Palestine will
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  Speaker 2: be free, calling for the obliterations of Israel. They chant
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  Speaker 2: for inter fata, that is a terrorist uprising against Israel.
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  Speaker 2: They never fly an Australian flag, They fly Palestinian flags
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  Speaker 2: and terrorist flags. They wear pictures of Jaga Sinhwa and
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  Speaker 2: hold up placards that display the aatola of Iran that
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  Speaker 2: sponsors terrorism all around the world, and yet our prime
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister lauds these protesters and says they are peaceful gatherings.
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  Speaker 1: Where are the Australian values in any of that.
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  Speaker 16: They're not And mister Albernezi, quite frankly, is trashing the
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  Speaker 16: Australia that you and I grew up in and that
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  Speaker 16: you and I loved so dearly. My call out to
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  Speaker 16: twenty seven million Australians who have now seen state sponsored
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  Speaker 16: terror on Australians soil, whereby the Islamic Republic of Iran
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  Speaker 16: could have killed Australians is this Please join together as
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  Speaker 16: a grassroof movement across Australia to say no to mister
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  Speaker 16: Albanisi and his trashing of Australian values and stand up
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  Speaker 16: for our country. Enough is enough, This is what Israel
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  Speaker 16: fights for, quite frankly, every single day. I must don't
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  Speaker 16: share our values his blah, don't share our values. The
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  Speaker 16: Islamic Republic of Iran, don't share our values.
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  Speaker 1: My god.
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  Speaker 16: Massa Ramani a twenty two year old Iranian girl. She
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  Speaker 16: was picked up by the morality police for God's sakes.
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  Speaker 16: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is extraordinary and there's a clear battle here. Some people
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  Speaker 2: call it the battle for civilization. The Bibi Netanyahu calls
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  Speaker 2: the fight against the barbarians. But there is this is
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  Speaker 2: little mist extrudism at play. It's funded by ira and
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  Speaker 2: our government's been slow to act. Now they're acting. What
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  Speaker 2: more do they need to see?
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  Speaker 16: It's interesting we say now they're acting, and they are.
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  Speaker 16: They should have acted obviously some time ago. And mister Alberanesi,
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  Speaker 16: Penny Wong, Mark Dreyfus, you know it. They all have
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  Speaker 16: questions to answer. But ultimately, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 16: where were they on October the seventh? In all honesty,
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  Speaker 16: the Jewish community in Australia have now been subjected for
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  Speaker 16: how long to the most grotesque campaign of anti Semitism
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  Speaker 16: in this country. They feel abandoned by mister Albanesi. Well,
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  Speaker 16: quite frankly, all Australians should feel abandoned by mister Alberinesi.
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  Speaker 1: It's about all Australians, Australian Jews are.
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  Speaker 16: We are actually going to be fighting for our lives
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  Speaker 16: shortly in terms of our values. Mister Alberanesi has capitulated
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  Speaker 16: to the Islamic Republic of Iran. They have got what
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  Speaker 16: they wanted, Chris, the recognition of a Palestinian state whilst
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  Speaker 16: their proxies the terrorists must are in charge.
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  Speaker 1: Your spot on that is, that is.
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  Speaker 16: Mister Albsy, You're delivered for the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Shame on you.
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  Speaker 2: I can't disagree with you. Michaulia Cash. It's what I've
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  Speaker 2: been saying. Thanks so much for joining us. Great to
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  Speaker 2: be with you, Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister, Senator Mikaylia Cash.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: We've got to take a break on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the Wednesday wrangle with Justin Smith and Denika the Georgio.
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  Speaker 2: Plenty on this serious stuff, but a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: lightness too with Taylor Swift planning to tie the knot.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the Wednesday wraankle now with Rankle. It
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: might be a bit of a wrangkle that Wednesday wrangle
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  Speaker 2: with Sky News host Anika to Georgio. Don't forget she's
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: here on Friday nights at five o'clock. Also Columbus broadcast
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Amount about Town. Justin Smith often heard on ABC Radio,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: actually one of the few people who can straddle Sky
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: News at the AVC. Good to talk to you both.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to get your thoughts first up on what
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  Speaker 2: we've learned about these Iranian terror plots, terror attacks in
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  Speaker 2: our own country and what they are trying to achieve
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  Speaker 2: justin this is just frightening. I mean that a synagogue
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  Speaker 2: fire bombing was frightening enough. It was terrible for the
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  Speaker 2: Jewish community there, there were people inside.
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  Speaker 1: Luckily no one was hurt or killed.
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  Speaker 2: But to know that this is being perpetrated by overseas
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  Speaker 2: actors is absolutely unprecedented, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just.
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  Speaker 8: It's absolutely horrifying, although not surprising. I mean, we've known
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  Speaker 8: about Iran four years. You know, you're talking, we're talking
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  Speaker 8: about expelling our abassador here, which is happening. But I
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  Speaker 8: mean it should have happened in nineteen eighty nine when
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  Speaker 8: they called for the death of someone rushing during that
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  Speaker 8: fat I mean, it could have happened through various governments
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  Speaker 8: over a long period of time. But I think there
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  Speaker 8: is congratulations to be handed out here for our intelligence
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  Speaker 8: agency that have been working on this. I mean, to
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  Speaker 8: prove something like that must have been extraordinary to find
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  Speaker 8: that out. I mean, I know, we sling off at
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  Speaker 8: governments and we should be testing them, and we sling
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  Speaker 8: off at agencies and we should be testing them as well.
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  Speaker 8: But I think a little padding on the back once
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  Speaker 8: in a while too, particularly on this one, wouldn't go astray.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we will see.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, most intelligence agencies pat themselves on the back
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  Speaker 2: when they prevent attacks from happening. But at least after
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: these attacks have happened, they've trimpin them down to the
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  Speaker 2: source to Iran. But Danika, the issue here is how
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: many warnings the al but easy Labor government has had,
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  Speaker 2: recommendations to list the Revolutionary Guard, calls for a cessation
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  Speaker 2: of diplomatic relations while all sorts of information was unfolding.
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  Speaker 2: We know Iran funds Hezbollah, we know Iran funds hum Us,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: We know they fund the Hutis in Yemen, we know
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  Speaker 2: they fund terrorism around the world. We knew they were
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: trying to develop nuclear weapons. Yet on and on it went,
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  Speaker 2: and Albanezi did zip. He did nothing. He's only acting now.
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  Speaker 1: He's only acting now.
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  Speaker 17: Iran has literally got fingers in every pie and every
• 44:15
  Speaker 17: terror organization around the world. We found out today that
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  Speaker 17: twelve months ago it was recommended that Labor prescribed the
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  Speaker 17: IRGC as a terror group, and they didn't do that.
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  Speaker 17: So here we are, twelve months later. They equivocated on it,
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  Speaker 17: and we're in a very dangerous position whereby they're responsible
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  Speaker 17: for at least two attacks on our home soil, and
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  Speaker 17: Azeo says possibly more. And don't forget Chris that since
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  Speaker 17: the October seven massacre, Labor has formally called in Israel's
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  Speaker 17: ambassador more times than what it has done to Iran's ambassador.
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  Speaker 17: So what does it tell you Labor has been asleep
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  Speaker 17: at the wheel. It should have from the very beginning,
• 44:51
  Speaker 17: instead of calling from four restraint as Pennywong did on
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  Speaker 17: October eight, actually said enough is enough because every single
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  Speaker 17: one of those attacks that Iran was behind, it's not
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  Speaker 17: just an assault on Jewish Australians. It is an assault
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  Speaker 17: on our values and our way of life. And here
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  Speaker 17: we are today, and once again, Labor today can part
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  Speaker 17: it off saying, oh, we were listening to intelligence agencies. No,
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  Speaker 17: the Prime Minister should have led this country and done
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  Speaker 17: it from the very beginning.
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  Speaker 2: That is such a good point, Deniko, I'd forgotten that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, apart from demonizing Israel in all its public
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  Speaker 2: statements and in even its policy decisions, the government's actually
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: called in the Israeli ambassador and let the Iranian ambassador
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Off Scott Free. Now we saw earlier in the program
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  Speaker 2: when I spoke to James Pattison, he talked about how
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Iran had got what it wanted. It wanted to scare
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the Australian Jewish community, it wanted to divide the Australian community,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: and it wanted the right political results from the Alberanesi
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  Speaker 2: government and it looks.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's got them.
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  Speaker 2: And michaelia Cash, the Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister, just made
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that point very strongly right here.
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  Speaker 16: Have a look, mister Albernizi has capitulated to the Islamic
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  Speaker 16: blig obvi Ran. They have got what they wanted, Chris,
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  Speaker 16: the recognition of a Palestinian state. Whilst they're proxies the
• 46:08
  Speaker 16: terrorists humus are in charge.
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  Speaker 2: Justin That's why they get involved in these sorts of attacks,
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  Speaker 2: because they want those political outcomes. Hasn't Anthony Alberanizi given
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  Speaker 2: them exactly what they wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I think.
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  Speaker 8: Every government should be tested out and every government should
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: be questioned.
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  Speaker 1: And made to be held accountable.
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  Speaker 8: But I think in all of this, I think there's
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  Speaker 8: something particularly disgusting at the way that the politics is
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  Speaker 8: being played When we're talking about the attacks on synagogues,
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  Speaker 8: We're talking about the attacks on innocent people. We're talking
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  Speaker 8: about us expelling no small thing, expelling an ambassador of
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  Speaker 8: another country from here. Let's be concentrating on that. Let's
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: be concentrating on getting along a little bit better here
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  Speaker 8: and supporting each other. I'm not saying support the government blindly,
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  Speaker 8: not at all. If there's playing of bloody politics around
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  Speaker 8: this has making mess.
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  Speaker 1: This. This is the hout to come to wanted.
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  Speaker 2: They've rewarded terrorists, and they've rewarded the terrorist.
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  Speaker 1: State of Iran. You can't ignore that, Denika, No you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't ignore that.
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  Speaker 17: And as I said from the very beginning, right, this
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  Speaker 17: has got nothing to do with this. This is not
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  Speaker 17: a political problem. This is about leadership in this country.
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  Speaker 17: October eighth, Penny One got out there and called for
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  Speaker 17: a straight Then we saw the things on the steps
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  Speaker 17: of the Opera House. And what about a couple of
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  Speaker 17: weeks ago when terror flags were being marched up and
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  Speaker 17: down our harbor bridge, the very picture right behind me.
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  Speaker 17: The next day the Prime Minister said it was a
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  Speaker 17: peaceful protest. It wasn't a peaceful protest, and that's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: That is the problem. MC there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, actually, I got to say what I think
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  Speaker 2: I've been saying for the last forty eight hours. I'm
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: very pleased the Coalition make that point. He has delivered
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  Speaker 2: what they wanted. You can't escape that. I'm not saying
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: he did it at they're behest, but the game they
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: have played, the egregious game they have played in our country,
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  Speaker 2: stirring up this out of Israel sentiment, has delivered one
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  Speaker 2: of the things they wanted, that recognition of a non
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  Speaker 2: existent state. Let me finish off with something more lighthearted.
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  Speaker 2: News today that Taylor Swift is going to get married.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: He's engaged to the footballer Travis Kelso was.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: It Kelsey anyway?
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Anthony alber Easy was asked about this today and he related.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: That to his own impending nuptials.
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  Speaker 4: Have a look with you respect to myself and Jody.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: I think that Taita's wedding will probably be bigger.
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  Speaker 11: We're not going to do a dual one.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: It's fantastic people falling in love and it's great good
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: luck to him.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: All the love in the air.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Not only could we have a wedding at the lodge
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: or Kiribilly House. Maybe we should get Tatay to come
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: over and they do a dual wedding and seeing it
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Albo and Jody's wedding, it could be a lot of fun.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, guys.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: It's nice to.
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  Speaker 2: Happy to nishe on a happy love story when there
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: are such difficult issues to discuss in this country.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Danika di Giorgio see her here five o'clock on Fridays.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And Justin Smith read him in the Herald Sun and here,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: there and everywhere. Purchase his books too. Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out of time after the Midwinter Ball. Wish me luck.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I'll see tomorrow at five o'clock. Here's Steve Price with
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Kredlin