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Early Trade Deadline preview w/Bob Nightengale + Twins expose Sacramento’s dangerous conditions · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: They can now get very bonds and gass players ever
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  Speaker 1: played the game. But outside very bonnced in my pie
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  Speaker 1: is only a right help dead.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go, Bob Nightingale, joining us right now from
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  Speaker 2: USA today. Good to see you, my friend. And I
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  Speaker 2: know it's a little bit early, Bob, but are any
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  Speaker 2: of your conversations starting to circulate around what the trade
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  Speaker 2: deadline could look like? Aside from the obvious buyers and sellers, but.
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  Speaker 1: People with slipper isn't kind of like adult deadline just
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  Speaker 1: because so many teams in the race. But if you're
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  Speaker 1: a buyer, you know you're hoping some of these teams
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  Speaker 1: fall apart. I mean you're hoping that Atlanta keeps losing.
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  Speaker 1: You hope that Arizona Diamondbacks don't get in the race.
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  Speaker 1: Dinebacks can be very intriguing. They got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: pieces there, whether it's a Zach Gallum, Merrill Kelly, both
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  Speaker 1: free agents, uh you Henio Suarez at third base, first
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  Speaker 1: base with Naylor.
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  Speaker 3: So they got a lot of pieces there that people
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  Speaker 3: want if they're not on the race.
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  Speaker 4: July thirty first, Bob, what're gonna take for that? Though?
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  Speaker 4: We would it take for the Diamondbacks to wave the
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  Speaker 4: white flag. What's their record have to be at a
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  Speaker 4: certain point, and you could throw the Braves in there too.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Braves are cooked. They're ten
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  Speaker 4: games under right now. They lose every they figure out
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  Speaker 4: ways to lose, kind of like the Diamondbacks. They both
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  Speaker 4: kind of just figure out ways new ways to lose.
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  Speaker 4: But what would it take for both those teams records
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  Speaker 4: at a certain point for Alexenthopoulos and Mike Hayson to say,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, we're trading everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I think Atlanta's case, they still want to have most
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  Speaker 1: of these guys back. They don't have those free agent guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the big one would be a course, Marcelo Zuna.
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  Speaker 1: But outside that, and they're not gonna trade away their
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  Speaker 1: their young core. So I don't think they have a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of pieces there. Maybe a couple of bullpen
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  Speaker 1: guys where Arizona. Hey, if you're ten games back or
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  Speaker 1: so and kind of hopelessly out of it, I would think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ten games back would would do it for sure.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're probably not going to keep Zach Gallon,
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  Speaker 3: he's a pre agent. They're probably going to.
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  Speaker 1: Keep Merrill Kelly, but they can still trade them and
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  Speaker 1: get them back. You know, they got pieces of the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: Suarez is a great slugger, and then Nayler has been
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  Speaker 1: buying at first base, so they got more pieces than
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta as far as guys have been won in.
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  Speaker 5: Trade because of how tight I think the National League
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  Speaker 5: is in the sense that there's a lot of good teams.
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  Speaker 5: What team do you see as rising to the top
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  Speaker 5: and being like, hey, you know what, We're not gonna
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  Speaker 5: wait this out. We're not gonna wait till the trade deadline.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to be the first to strike because this
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  Speaker 5: is the kind of time of the month here that hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, if a team strikes, they jump, they
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  Speaker 5: jump the gun on other teams and get that first
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  Speaker 5: ball rolling.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the guy here goes keeps a Ryan is Dave Dombrowski.
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  Speaker 1: He's as aggressive as anybody, and pretty much if they
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  Speaker 1: don't make the World Series, it's a disaster.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this team's been built to win.
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  Speaker 1: They ran it back one more time, and this offense
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  Speaker 1: is that we struggled to come October. So they got
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  Speaker 1: to be aggressive here and people.
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  Speaker 3: Think will happen.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Cubs will too, and you still got
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  Speaker 1: a GM Jed Hoyer last year of his contract.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they need to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: They are sitting pretty but yeah, if you can write
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  Speaker 1: the first week of July, it helps out.
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  Speaker 3: Remember Walkee went on, got c C.
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  Speaker 1: Sibath there early, and uh, those extra starts got them
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  Speaker 1: in the postseason. So if you get an extra three
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  Speaker 1: or four starts from somebody, it's really advantageous.
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  Speaker 4: Bob, who's the biggest name that's going to be traded
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  Speaker 4: this year? Right now? If you look at it, Who's who?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think the biggest name that'll be traded this
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  Speaker 4: year will be?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it could be that Gallon, It really could.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you know, every he's talking about seeing a contra,
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  Speaker 1: but god, he struggled so much. You do have two
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  Speaker 1: and a half years of control, so you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: more from the Contra than you would Gallon, who's a
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  Speaker 1: free agent.
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  Speaker 3: Uh So I would think, you know, kind of a toss.
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  Speaker 1: Up about I'd go Gallon over the Contra unless they
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  Speaker 1: magically just turn it around here in Arizona.
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  Speaker 6: That's a good one. What about position players?
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  Speaker 3: You know, no one just jumps out at you that
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  Speaker 3: that would do it. I mean, if you want to
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  Speaker 3: slug or you would take you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, Suarez, uh, you know, uh, you know kind of falafa.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: He'll be moved, but you know, not not a big name.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many big names there will be
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  Speaker 1: that that that's going to get moved.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You always have to keep an eye in Milwaukee. Milwaukee
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  Speaker 1: will trade some pitchers and then get some guys back.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they'll trade Peralta. I think they still
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  Speaker 1: remember what happened when they traded Josh Hater and try
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  Speaker 1: to thread the needle the clubousement berserk.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they'll make that mistake again.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, Bob, so you're just saying, if the
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  Speaker 4: Diamondbacks don't trade anybody, there's no trades coming from trade deadline.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: If the Diamondbacks they don't make any trades, it guess what, guys,
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  Speaker 4: we're canceling the trade deadline?
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  Speaker 3: Is that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, because you keep talking about the Diamondbacks. Is
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  Speaker 4: it Is it more that the Diamondbacks players are that
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  Speaker 4: valued or that some of the other teams who would
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  Speaker 4: make trades of White Sox and A's possibly a Rockies
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  Speaker 4: of Marlins just don't have pieces that other teams won
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  Speaker 4: that bat. Maybe maybe they don't want that badly is
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  Speaker 4: a better way to phrase it.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're exactly right, Agent. I think that's it. You
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  Speaker 1: just don't have the pieces. I mean, no one's no
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  Speaker 1: one's calling the White Socks and say he can I
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  Speaker 1: have Luis Robert Now, the way he's hitting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati could be that one sleeper team that could be
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  Speaker 1: very active as far as dumban guys.
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  Speaker 3: If they're not in their race.
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  Speaker 1: They got some nice pitching, whether it's Nick Martinez or
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  Speaker 1: some of the guys to move. They do have some bats,
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  Speaker 1: so that they could be a team to keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on, because right now I think they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: on the on the fence.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, we're a baseball show, so we like baseball talk.
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  Speaker 5: Is there a chance that they could change or add
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  Speaker 5: a trade deadline of June fifteenth where you could trade
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  Speaker 5: the player and that new team still retail or gets
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  Speaker 5: him gets a pick, because now anybody's traded during the year,
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  Speaker 5: you can't you can't get the pay, you can't do
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  Speaker 5: the qualifying offer, and which would end up giving the
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  Speaker 5: team that gets the trade more of a Hey, you
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  Speaker 5: know what we're willing to go after this guy early on,
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  Speaker 5: and it creates more of a competition early for these
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  Speaker 5: guys that could be traded.
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  Speaker 3: Now, it's an interesting concept.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard that brought up before past CBA negotiations.
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  Speaker 1: The only trouble with it is, like, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: almost June fifteenth, now there's only you know, two three
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  Speaker 1: teams are on the race. I just don't know how much,
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  Speaker 1: how much people get moved and you go to get
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  Speaker 1: bash enough or for giving up. I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 1: many teams would be comfortable waving that white flag, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this early in the season.
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  Speaker 2: Bob, I've got a position player named for you who
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  Speaker 2: popped up in some trade rumors this past week. When
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  Speaker 2: do you think the chances are that Jaron Duran could
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  Speaker 2: be on the block.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they got to make move at room in the
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  Speaker 1: outfield at some point, and the plot have been calling
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  Speaker 1: and calling about him.
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  Speaker 3: But they don't have that one piece either.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the Potterys, they've already traded away a lot
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  Speaker 1: of prospects.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they you know, have to give up. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know they're going for this thing, so I'm not
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that fits.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's got two and a half years of control,
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  Speaker 1: not making any money, so it makes sense where the
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  Speaker 1: potterys badly want them. I just don't know who they
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  Speaker 1: have to give up if we're to giving up a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys the last two years just by trading
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  Speaker 1: prospects and going for.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, here's another interesting team. What about the Orioles. Orioles,
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  Speaker 4: ohhearn Mullins. Maybe I don't know. If Morton keeps pitching, okay,
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  Speaker 4: would he be one, Sagano, maybe Flynn. They have some
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  Speaker 4: names out there. Would they go into another trade and
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  Speaker 4: try to get some prospects back to try to help
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  Speaker 4: them in the future.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the thing is with them Ajas, you
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  Speaker 1: got so many prospects already.
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  Speaker 3: They're absolutely loading the farm system.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, if they don't get back in thing and
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  Speaker 1: some gms say, you know what, keep an eye for
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  Speaker 1: these guys, they may still make a wild card run.
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  Speaker 3: But the names you said for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Flinn would bring a bunch back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Sagan always only been there a happy year. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to do that, fine, you know, same same thing
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  Speaker 1: two with center field. But yeah, Fland would be a
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  Speaker 1: guy that everybody would want, and he can pitch, you know,
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  Speaker 1: big time situations. But a lot of gms say, keep
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  Speaker 1: an eye for the Orls. They got a soft schedule,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they can't hit lefties, but it might be
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  Speaker 1: too early to pull the plug in these guys.
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  Speaker 2: Bob, what would you say is the most surprising storyline
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  Speaker 2: for a team so far this season, which which probably
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  Speaker 2: I guess would be let's do it this way, a
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  Speaker 2: surprise where you're like, Wow, they're much better than I
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  Speaker 2: expected them to be. And then one super downer. I
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  Speaker 2: know we've covered a couple of them already in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: I guess Arizona to an extent, definitely Baltimore.
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  Speaker 6: But what's one up one down for you that really
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  Speaker 6: surprised you?
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  Speaker 1: And the one up for sure is the one nobody
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  Speaker 1: hardly talks about. Saint Louis Cardinals. I means unbelievable. What
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  Speaker 1: they're doing as almost like that movie Major League, where
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  Speaker 1: they're winning despite what the front office wants.
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  Speaker 3: To do, and then they want to trade guys at the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: They want to dump and get prospects, you know, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's Ryan Helsley or a bunch of those guys. But
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  Speaker 1: the way they're playing, you can't do it so to
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  Speaker 1: kind of poil in the front office plans. I think
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  Speaker 1: Oli Marmel has done an unbelievable job as manager there
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  Speaker 1: then the on the on the flip end Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the two guys, you're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: two teams the one though, it was probably the Texas Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they had a chance to get to a
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  Speaker 1: World Series and win it. They're number three in baseball
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  Speaker 1: for e ra uh.
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  Speaker 3: De Grom is back to being looking like the old
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  Speaker 3: Jacob de Grom, But they just can't hit. I don't
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: I still tend to have a chance to recover, but
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  Speaker 1: they've been very disappointing. I don't think May thought this
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  Speaker 1: offense would be this bad.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, did you see you saw the Marlins Rockies
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  Speaker 4: attendance the other day? Did it remind you of the
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  Speaker 4: Did you remind you of the Metrodome? Like around ninety
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  Speaker 4: eight ninety nine when I was first coming up and
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  Speaker 4: we'd have an eleven am game against I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: any pick a team, any team not named the Yankees
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  Speaker 4: of Red Sox, and there was about three hundred people
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  Speaker 4: at those games.
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  Speaker 1: Those are classics, those Saturday games at eleven o'clock in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. Oh, you have to pull it by two o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, we had a time limit. We had a time
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  Speaker 4: limit so the Gophers could get the field ready to play. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: a time limit work if the game ended, it was
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  Speaker 4: the game ended it like it was like a three
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  Speaker 4: hour timeline. We started like ten in the morning.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's over.
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  Speaker 4: Game's over.
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  Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, a
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  Speaker 5: big league game that would have ended on a time limit.
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard this suspended. It would be suspended.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, to get a college.
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  Speaker 1: In exactly yeah everybody, Oh my.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, fans are anyway, So what difference to me?
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  Speaker 4: That is true? Oh, they could get the double Edder.
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  Speaker 4: You could get a bad Twins team, and you could
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  Speaker 4: get the Gophers, which they weren't very good at football
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  Speaker 4: at the time either, So you can get a double
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  Speaker 4: edder just not good. But I did get to go
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  Speaker 4: to some Gopher games, so that's kind of cool.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they threw better remember.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 6: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: But what do you think I mean? Honestly though, what
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  Speaker 4: about the Marlins? And we use the Rockies too, but
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  Speaker 4: what are they gonna do the Marlins because they can't
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  Speaker 4: get any traction in South Florida. Nobody likes going to
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  Speaker 4: the stadium, even though it's air conditioned and all that,
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  Speaker 4: but they just can't get any traction. There is there
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  Speaker 4: any hope for the Marlins down the road.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean people hate driving there just you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not a nothing to do around the area anyway, But
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  Speaker 1: it takes to from Port Lauderdale scout Stock about taking
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  Speaker 1: an hour and a half to two hours to get there.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The strange part is when WBC rolls around, it's electric.
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  Speaker 1: It's a gress atmosphere outside of a World Series or
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  Speaker 1: right there with a World Series. But they cannot get
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  Speaker 1: people there during the season. I mean, they have no
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  Speaker 1: choice but to win or people are gonna come out.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the cost is talking to the Martin's official.
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  Speaker 1: So they lost money those three games because it costs
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  Speaker 1: more to put on those three games again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: than it did to actually play him. So with the Rockies,
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  Speaker 1: by hiring all the concession people and staying workers, they
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  Speaker 1: lost money because its entire at tenants I think was
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  Speaker 1: one like nineteen thousand.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Tens of people saw them play, but none of them
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: bought none of them bought beer. But I have to
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: go to something more positive for baseball Aaron Judge. The
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  Speaker 5: season he's putting together this year, is it he stays
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  Speaker 5: on the pace that he's at, will it be the
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  Speaker 5: greatest offensive season we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's still very Bonds. I mean, he's you can
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  Speaker 1: arget Barry Bonds and gress players ever played the game.
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  Speaker 1: But outside Barry Bonds, in my view, it's only right
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  Speaker 1: up there for him to have this.
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  Speaker 3: High of a bad average with the home runs.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about Ted Williams days, those type
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  Speaker 1: of things. So, but it's incredible to watch, fun to watch,
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  Speaker 1: as you guys know, he's like the nicest guys.
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  Speaker 3: Human beings are the base of the planet. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, his teammates said they'll love playing for
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees just because he's on that team. It's unbelievable
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  Speaker 1: what a leadership really has and just you know, bringing
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  Speaker 1: guys over on the road to his suite, playing video games,
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  Speaker 1: running out restaurants for families.
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  Speaker 3: So it could happen to a better guy.
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  Speaker 5: Is it too much to ask for him to be
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  Speaker 5: the face of baseball because he's pretty reticent to do that.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't want to be the face of baseball, but
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  Speaker 5: he is one of the best teammates ever, Like he
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  Speaker 5: is all those things that you just said and more.
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  Speaker 5: But the argument is, you know, he just he does
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  Speaker 5: his interviews and he's not necessarily putting himself out there.
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  Speaker 5: Is there an argument that we shouldn't make him do that?
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean Jeter was the same way. Jeter very
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, rarely opened up. Uh you know, and
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  Speaker 1: he's doing things that Jeter never did. So No, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fine. And the thing about him, it's not
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  Speaker 1: like he's not doing interviews where some guys will take
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  Speaker 1: a whole series off. He's addressed in the media just
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  Speaker 1: about every game, uh afterwards, doesn't matter if he goes,
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  Speaker 1: oh for four hits three home runs. So no, I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: think he is a face of baseball, and I think
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: he's comfortable with that. You know it' stuff for him
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to go out and stuff to the sides. He talked
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: about going up to the Starbucks in Seattle and walking
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: across the street.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Everybody's falling him over there and things like that. You
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: sometimes you kind.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Of wish it he was six one or six two
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: and get away with it instead of being six seven
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: to eighty.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Well, is that why I hit the home run? Off
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Dobbins because he's the he's the Yankees captain, and Dobbin
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: said he hates the Yankees last night and he's like,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I'll still you on the captain took it personal. That's right.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for the Red Sox Yankee games at
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: fend Away. Those fans are gonna go crazy cheering for him.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, now he's gonna be bel of it forever
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: at Fenwick.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: That is an epic line. I will give it to him.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: You know you're talking Aaron Judges. What about can we
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: give Kal Rawly some love? He actually has more homers
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: than anybody?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Right, Yep, that's true.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: We talk about Cara a catcher with twenty five homers
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: or beginning of June.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna see them the next three days. It's unbelievable.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I covered my Piazza with the Dodgers, and uh, that's
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: what your minding your money of. But you know, it
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: looks like he's a better defensive catcher than Piazza. Uh,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: unbelievable the stuff he's doing. So yeah, no one talks
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: about him. I think as your places in Seattle, if
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: he was in New York, LA, you know, he'd be
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: on the news every single night.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: It's summertime.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, no offense to Piazza, but he never won a
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: platinum glove. Okay, Piza never want a platinum gloves, Bob,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Let's be serious. He was on Baywatch. He was on
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Baywatch and he had platinum hair, but he never won
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: a platinum glove.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Did they have platinum gloves back then?
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: No?
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: But he also was like me, we had skillets. We
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: had had skillets. You guys could both hit. You could
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: tell both of you can hit by the way you caught.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: That's that's how you We could hit.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Hit you good hit. Even sometimes you'd have some of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the pitchers complaining about Piazza behind the plate, and time
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Alosaurus said, okay, you want me to put the backup
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: catcher in. No, No, we'll take We'll take his two
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: home runs and five reviews every.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: Night exactly, exactly.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, hey, Bob, last one for you. When do you
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: think Shoeo Tani pitches in a major league game again?
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: And I know the Dodgers are doing fine.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're not running away with the division by
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: any means, but does this season surprise you because we
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: talked so much about pitching injuries last year for them,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and we're not gonna have time for it on the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: rest of the show. So I'll mention it now Tony
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Gonslin heads to the shelf. He's got a little elbow discomfort.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: So I think that makes it eight starters on the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: il for this team.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: What do you think.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I think we'll see him in August, but not before them.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: But even in spring training, people are watching him say,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you know what, he could pitch for the Dodgers right now.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: He could have been their opening day starter. But just
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: kind of slow playing them. It's like it had so
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: many injuries. They say, you know what, we want this
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: guy healthy come October. And even October they probably you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: us them three four innings at a time. They're not
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: going to, you know, push them seven eight innings that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Sort of thing.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So I think they're slow playing a lot of guys,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they don't want they don't want
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the nightmare of the year ago, even though they won
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the World Series, only have three starters, you know, limping
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: into the postseason right now. The only guy that can
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: trust is Yamamoto, and you know he's pitching like a
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I saw a young candidate.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: But I think they're just taking their sweet time.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Even if they had to push them, you know, Seyo
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Tani it's with the potteris then in their team.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I think you'd definitely be a pitching right now.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: And they only although Dodgers did last year was when
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: the World Series only three pitchers. But I have to
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: ask this. I saw this the other day, and I
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: don't know if it's if it's a real thing or
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: not ball, but you're deeper into this stuff than I am.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Before twenty twenty, I think it was the Dodgers had
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the fewest or some of the fewest injur and then
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty they brought in the drive Line guys
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: and went heavy drive Line, and since then they've had
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: like the most injuries. Is there a coincidence or is that?
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Is that something that's a real thing, because I've seen
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: it in a couple of different places now where it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: been mentioned. I don't know anything about drive Line other
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: than you see their videos and people go to them
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: to try to get better offensively and defensively. I don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: know what they do, but is that a real thing?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: It's really could be.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I know in Boston they kind of hired the drab
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: line guys, and you know what, I'm like, they're lying
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the world on fire. You talk to scouts that go
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to those facilities, and everybody's high five and everybody when
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: they're throwing you ninety eight one hundred miles an hour,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the ball maybe twenty feet of the catcher's had have
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: no idea where he's throwing, but they know. They're kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of saying, Okay, throw as hard as you can. If
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you blow out, you blow out, you know, get your
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: money first. Uh, you know that sort of thing. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's a problem now, just hown't anybody knows
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: how to pitch, you know, Emma. Greg Maddox used to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: always say, there's nothing better than just a control fastball.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And how many guys actually have that?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So it's almost like some teams could care less say,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you know what, we'll grab you guys they get hurt,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: spin them up.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: We'll bring them, bring in some new guys.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Where it's become such a thing where some agentsert are
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: saying they don't want their guy who's drafted by searching
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: clubs for that reason.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Mmm. Wow, that's interesting. You don't have a lot of
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: control of that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: But this is in the NFL. This isn't We don't
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: have a deon Sanders, Bob Okay, we can't tell them
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: where to draft shador. I want him to go to Cleveland,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: dang it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: But you can say, hey, I'm not gonna take slot money.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I'm taking over slot money, or you better go move
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: on to next guy.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: You can do that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: True, Hey you got one. Yeah, you better be damn
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: good to be pulling that off up.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: That's true. But hey, it's interesting to hear Bob. Great stuff.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Great to have you back on. Give Bob a follow
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: if you don't already at b Nightingale and check out
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: his articles, including the Sunday column that he puts together
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: on USA Today.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Thanks Bob, good talking to you, you too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Nice guys, Take care.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Let's dive into a really strong article on Friday that
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: might have gotten lost in all the other headlines from
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the weekend in Major League Baseball. Dan Hayes covers the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Twins for The Athletic. Did some really good reporting and
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: had some interesting quotes come out of this story on
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the twins recent series in Sacramento, the Twins lost their
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: ace Pablo Lopez to a shoulder injury for probably a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: couple months, and actually, since that article is Zebbie Matthews,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: who also pitched in Sacramento, has gone down with a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: shoulder injury. Let's bring up the pitching side of things first.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Joe Ryan went through a similar shoulder injury last year
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to what Pablo Lopez is dealing with, and he said
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: about Sacramento, the first thing I thought of was Zach
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Wheeler saying I was all armed when I was pitching.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: There does that play into that?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And he said, I don't think Pablo is the kind
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of guy that's going to say the mound was the issue,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: but I'll say it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: They said the mound was I guess firm, rock solid, which.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Happened to be the case with the batter's box as well,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: which we'll get to. There are a ton of issues,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: of course, with playing in a minor league park that's
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: also getting double dipped with.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: A minor league team.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything to this Zach Wheeler saying
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: them all armed and then these shoulder injuries popping up.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I think there's something to the field not being up
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: to major league standards because they're also every time they
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: go on the road, it's being used by the Giants'
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Triple A team, so it never gets a break and
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the lay around screw doesn't get to fix it properly
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: so it's always in use. And is there something to it?
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: If they say there's something to it, I don't know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't pitch, but I would definitely think that there's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: something to it. And you know, this isn't the first
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: thing with this whole thing Sevarino's talked about and he
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: pitches there. Visiting teams have talked about not being able
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: to do their normal warm up stuff. Hitters that are
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: having a hard time because they can't hit before they
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: have to go pinch it. So listen, Yeah, there's something
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: to it. I don't know what, but if Joe Ryan
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: says he thinks it is, and I'm gonna go with him, yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you remember AJ but
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Roger Center, the whatever it's called now or whatever it
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: was called, the sky Dome, the roof's open on a
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: hot Sunday day game that John gets like concrete and
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: it breaks apart. What if you started and it was
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: wet and you were moldeds. I never had the issue
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: because I had medals on, but guys that were moldeds,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: You're gonna slide around later in the game. Now, think
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: about it. If you're out in Sacramento, and that field
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: is being used essentially twelve straight days because they do
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: get off Mondays when Sacramento comes in town. It's just
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: not going to it's just not going to get fixed
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: the way it should be, the way it should be
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: covered and stay wet and stay tacky.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: You know you're talking about you're talking abou about Toronto,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: right Toronto. I remember Darren Ur said, Remember Darren Ur
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: said he was a pretty good player. He took a
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: pitch in Toronto and both feet went like this and
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: he went on the aisle with a pulled groin. He
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: literally just took a pitch and it was so hard
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: and he had moldeds on and both feet went and
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: he pulled. Oh, it's unbelievable, brutal. It was. We used
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: to have guys fault all the time in Toronto. I
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: was a molded guy. It had to be. I mean,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: it was like that's the one part where he had
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to like dig in because it was it was. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: it was like it was it'd be like playing on
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: this desk or like the slick concrete crats. You know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: there were certain stadiums that had like that slick concrete
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: and you had to shuffle your feet because if you
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: stepped on it. You're right, it was like ice scanning.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: That's what Toronto's home plate was, Like, that's what I'm
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: assuming Sacramentos.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Is like, that's totally and that's that's a bigger thing
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: than people. They don't understand, Like people are gonna tell us, well,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: they need to suck it up. What's gonna end up
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: happening if enough pitchers or position players plane, major League
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Baseball is gonna step in and say, Okay, we're gonna
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: help them and we're gonna make sure so they're just
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: you know, major League Baseball is just you know, covering.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: They're just that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: They're a helicopter parent for the A's right now, until
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: they get all this stuff figured out, Like this should
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: be the standard. This is why it's in the CBA.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: There's a standard playing surface. You go and play in London,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: aj you know this. You go and play in London,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: you go play in Mexico. The field has to be
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: up to a certain standard that Major League Baseball makes
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: it up to. And yet ah, you know what the A's, Oh,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: they have just they have a plight of issues. So
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: we're just gonna make whatever they want to do is five.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Carlos Carea said, it's the worst batter's box he's ever
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: stepped in. He was over compensating with his back not
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to slip like many of his teammates were doing. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: he eventually said, you know what, sitting out the last
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: two games of this series, I'm not sacrificing two months
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: of a season for a couple of at bats.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Here all so well aware.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's had injuries issues in the past, he said,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: to testing and confirmis hypothesis. He hit on flat ground
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: in the indoor batting cages and he was like, I'm
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: totally fine. So he was trying different things like bar
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and spikes from Ryan Jeffers, and eventually he was just like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: this is not major league quality.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: I don't want to get hurt.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Oh well, guys, guys used to go into Toronto when
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the turf was brutal in Toronto and they'd come out
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: of the they'd come out of.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: It, Oh, my back is wretched.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know how the Metrodome was. I mean, you
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: were like nineteen when you got call up to the
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: big league, so I guess that's different.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: But guys just have to give teams. Used to give
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: guys off time off in the Metronome because we had
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the old crappy turf all the time. Now we were
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: used to it. We could get away with it because
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: we played on it every day. But teams would come
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: in with some veteran guys and they couldn't play him
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: all three games because they were like, yeah, backs, hamstrings.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: It was just a different thing.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Don't worry.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: We're getting close to that time period in Sacramento where
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: it gets to like one hundred and ten degrees, So
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: maybe the batter's box will be less firm when it
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: melts to the ground.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And also the field will only get better because
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll be able to, you know, keep up
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: with the water and being played on every day. It's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: gonna be off. It's gonna be off. That's it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: That's why we talk about it, and then hopefully someone
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: listens and works on it.