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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three
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- 0:14Speaker 1: Volume podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network.
- 0:18Speaker 1: I am live from my time of John Home Studio,
- 0:22Speaker 1: and I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,
- 0:25Speaker 1: Michael Padre might beff professional better Sigmon Hunter et Osymon.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Chad, how are we doing, brother?
- 0:33Speaker 1: I'm so glad we're starting the show because from the
- 0:37Speaker 1: time we got on fifteen minutes ago until literally the
- 0:41Speaker 1: second we went live, Matt Mitchell did not shut the
- 0:46Speaker 1: fuck out. Loved it, like fifteen straight minutes of talking.
- 0:52Speaker 1: What it was like listening to my mother in law
- 0:55Speaker 1: on hyperspeed, who can cover one thousand different topics in
- 1:00Speaker 1: the span of fifteen minutes without anyone even responding, making
- 1:05Speaker 1: eye contact, looking up, asking a question. I want to
- 1:09Speaker 1: have Matt Mitchell come on the show today to talk
- 1:11Speaker 1: about the bills. I know he's made a massive bet
- 1:13Speaker 1: on the bills. I'm a little nervous about it because
- 1:16Speaker 1: I know he likes to keep the shows tight and
- 1:18Speaker 1: that might add forty five fucking minutes.
- 1:20Speaker 2: To the show. So we'll have to see how we're.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Feeling when we get to the Chiefs Bills game to
- 1:25Speaker 1: see if we want to add Matt Mitchell and his
- 1:28Speaker 1: nonsense on the show. Today, Today's our Conference Championship Weekend
- 1:34Speaker 1: Best Bets episode. As we did last week, we will
- 1:38Speaker 1: not only be reviewing the sides for this weekend's games,
- 1:40Speaker 1: we are adding any other bets we like as well,
- 1:42Speaker 1: hopefully going to give folks more to look forward, root forward,
- 1:46Speaker 1: think about this weekend. We will also be including the
- 1:48Speaker 1: best options for our Foxhoul as well as our Tommy
- 1:51Speaker 1: John Big Balls bet of the week, and we will
- 1:54Speaker 1: just of course discuss Simon's the Biggest Bets play, Scoot Roulette,
- 1:58Speaker 1: all that jazz plus Today, I do want to have
- 2:01Speaker 1: a conversation about two very important topics. One hedging. I
- 2:05Speaker 1: mentioned this on Tuesday. Simon and I both gave out
- 2:09Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchup bets on this very show before the
- 2:12Speaker 1: season began. We each have one AFC team and one
- 2:15Speaker 1: NFC team from those bets still alive, so we got
- 2:19Speaker 1: a shot that may be true for a lot of you.
- 2:22Speaker 1: So how do we hedge if we want to? Do
- 2:23Speaker 1: you want to cash out? I got that question on Twitter. Also,
- 2:28Speaker 1: I want to talk about Super Bowl futures. There's four
- 2:30Speaker 1: teams left if you choose to get some value before
- 2:35Speaker 1: the big game.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Now is the last chance.
- 2:39Speaker 1: As we were last Sunday, we will be on Sunday
- 2:41Speaker 1: night after the end of the second game. This is
- 2:45Speaker 1: the Bills Chiefs this weekend. We will come on live
- 2:48Speaker 1: after that first look at Super Bowl review of what
- 2:51Speaker 1: happened during the day. Bets are rolling in lines or moving,
- 2:56Speaker 1: decisions need to be made. As our volume podcast, Boss
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- 3:46Speaker 1: as always on Thursdays, we'd like to hear are the
- 3:50Speaker 1: wise guys that are responding to our Tuesday conversation. Fewer games,
- 3:53Speaker 1: but still lots of opinions. We are very influential. Lines
- 3:57Speaker 1: have already moved based in our conversations.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Get some opinions from the wise guys. Simon, let's do
- 4:03Speaker 2: shove calls.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Hello, who's there? I'm talking Rain.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Rain telephone range, somebody saying maybe what you do man?
- 4:16Speaker 3: Yeah? Interesting? Weeks shocked.
- 4:18Speaker 5: I thought it was gonna be everyone on our side,
- 4:20Speaker 5: to be honest with you, Chad. It felt like we're
- 4:22Speaker 5: going up against two very public dogs. But there is
- 4:25Speaker 5: some really smart money on the other side, and we
- 4:28Speaker 5: can start the commanders guys, I respect taking a position
- 4:31Speaker 5: on that side, and I think it really does come
- 4:33Speaker 5: down to Hurts his health. They think they are getting
- 4:36Speaker 5: a good number here because Hurts is not gonna do
- 4:38Speaker 5: what he can normally do, and I still think it's
- 4:40Speaker 5: being overrated. It's like they don't rely on Hurts. This
- 4:43Speaker 5: is not a team built around Hurts. This is the
- 4:45Speaker 5: team built rely.
- 4:46Speaker 3: On the running games.
- 4:46Speaker 5: So definitely a lot of arguments right now about that
- 4:50Speaker 5: with I'm being told that I'm over valuing Hurts and
- 4:55Speaker 5: not understanding his injury and they think they're getting a
- 4:58Speaker 5: great number, and the bo backed that up. Most bookmakers
- 5:01Speaker 5: I've talked to it's heavy, heavy, Like there was really
- 5:04Speaker 5: heavy early money on the Eagles. Now it's basically all Washington.
- 5:08Speaker 5: Like they're all taking a six. It's not even close
- 5:11Speaker 5: on the money line. It's all money is coming in
- 5:14Speaker 5: on the money line for this Washington team. So yeah,
- 5:17Speaker 5: I can't dive to that, because that honestly makes you
- 5:18Speaker 5: feel even better, like the books needing a home favorite.
- 5:22Speaker 5: Like even when I'm talking to the bookmakers, they are
- 5:24Speaker 5: laughing about it because again, Chiefs are basically the same
- 5:26Speaker 5: exact spots as the Eagles. It's all bills money. All
- 5:30Speaker 5: the money coming in right now is bills. All the
- 5:32Speaker 5: teasers are on the bills. So yeah, if you're like
- 5:36Speaker 5: me and you talk to bookmakers and you go to
- 5:38Speaker 5: a lot of different books.
- 5:39Speaker 3: They're very happy right now in their position to be
- 5:41Speaker 3: in right.
- 5:42Speaker 5: They are in the position of they need two home
- 5:44Speaker 5: favorites to cover and win, and on the futures market,
- 5:48Speaker 5: the best outcome for them is the Chiefs. The Chiefs
- 5:51Speaker 5: have never I mean Evan could probably test this. I
- 5:52Speaker 5: don't think they ever got above plus seven hundred for
- 5:54Speaker 5: the entire season. So this is a team that basically
- 5:57Speaker 5: never got really high odds. On the flip side, if
- 6:00Speaker 5: the Commanders make it to the Super Bowl, they'll be crushed.
- 6:03Speaker 5: Like that's a position that you know, Joe Schmoe down
- 6:06Speaker 5: the street that bet them at one hundred to one
- 6:08Speaker 5: or one hundred and fifty to one can be able
- 6:09Speaker 5: to hedge, and professionals will build aheage. So it is
- 6:12Speaker 5: interesting talking to the perspective of the book makers and
- 6:15Speaker 5: the perspective of the professionals that you know, I get
- 6:18Speaker 5: why they love the Bills, I get why they love Commanders.
- 6:20Speaker 5: It's a coin flip type of game. But I do
- 6:22Speaker 5: think their numbers have overrated both those sides. So yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to diving to these games even more
- 6:27Speaker 5: chat because it does seem like, you know, coming into it.
- 6:30Speaker 5: I was a little nervous our positions, you know, me
- 6:32Speaker 5: and chat I don't love betting favorites, especially chalk favorites,
- 6:35Speaker 5: not chalk favorites. In this spot, we are definitely taking,
- 6:38Speaker 5: shockingly the underdog kind of favorites in the spot of
- 6:41Speaker 5: everyone's backing the dogs on the road and we are
- 6:44Speaker 5: actually the ones going off trail here and taking their
- 6:48Speaker 5: home favorites, which is pretty shocking position to be in.
- 6:50Speaker 2: All right, I love it.
- 6:51Speaker 1: That is a great tea out for what we're going
- 6:53Speaker 1: to talk about, because it's Washington and Philadelphia. The number
- 6:57Speaker 1: at bet three sixty five is minus six. The total
- 6:59Speaker 1: is forty seven and a half. I have seen this
- 7:04Speaker 1: at six and a half in some spots. But guess what,
- 7:08Speaker 1: right off the bat.
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- 7:27Speaker 2: Man number six.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Like I said, tighter to six and a half already
- 7:31Speaker 1: there in some spots. I do want to give you
- 7:33Speaker 1: one funny story. As a Philly native, you can appreciate this.
- 7:41Speaker 1: So my younger son, my eighteen year old, has discovered
- 7:48Speaker 1: It's Always Sunny and he's been watching it constantly lately.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And if I'm in the same room with him at
- 7:55Speaker 1: the same time and like he's just watching it, I
- 7:58Speaker 1: end up sitting down and watching a few episodes and
- 8:01Speaker 1: like he's in the beginning, he's only in season two, right,
- 8:04Speaker 1: So it's going back.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Eighteen nineteen years.
- 8:07Speaker 1: And the episode that came on yesterday that I watched
- 8:11Speaker 1: with him, The Gang Gets Invincible.
- 8:15Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember.
- 8:16Speaker 1: This episode, of course, but this is the episode where
- 8:21Speaker 1: Mac and Dennis and de try out for the Eagles,
- 8:24Speaker 1: because it's right when the movie Invincible came out and
- 8:28Speaker 1: everybody in Philly, every fucking Philly scumbag decided they're Vince
- 8:33Speaker 1: Papali and they can go try out for the Eagles
- 8:36Speaker 1: and they're gonna make the Eagles.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Lies moving philos.
- 8:40Speaker 4: Come on, get on the bus bus. What the hell
- 8:42Speaker 4: are you talking about? The bus that takes you to
- 8:44Speaker 4: the field? Oh wait, I thought we were going to
- 8:46Speaker 4: be playing on the link.
- 8:47Speaker 5: You think, you dip shit's going to play on the
- 8:48Speaker 5: same field that champions play on.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Where are we going? We're going to a shitty high
- 8:54Speaker 3: school in Bucks County gets your ass on the bus,
- 8:57Speaker 3: straight to the bus, Straight to the bus.
- 8:59Speaker 1: So on the show Shoh, they have a tryout that
- 9:02Speaker 1: is inspired by Vince for Polly making it, and they say,
- 9:06Speaker 1: we got to do it because the New Kids on
- 9:07Speaker 1: the Block.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Movie about the guy making the team, you know, because
- 9:11Speaker 2: Mark Wahlberger wrote for and So.
- 9:14Speaker 1: So I'm watching it and in the middle of it,
- 9:17Speaker 1: I don't say anything about it. In the middle of it,
- 9:19Speaker 1: my kids says to me, didn't you like do something
- 9:23Speaker 1: about some dude who tried up for the Eagles. I'm like, yeah,
- 9:28Speaker 1: I wrote the book Invincible. It's on a shelf ten
- 9:33Speaker 1: feet from where you're sitting right now. I wrote it
- 9:36Speaker 1: when you were just born so we could put food
- 9:39Speaker 1: on the fucking table. I cannot believe you cannot even
- 9:42Speaker 1: remember how many times we've talked about this book and
- 9:45Speaker 1: you cannot remember that I wrote the book Invincible.
- 9:49Speaker 2: No, there's no respect in my house, Simon.
- 9:53Speaker 5: I love that you watch UP. So a great episode
- 9:55Speaker 5: cameo by Donovan McNabb. Yeah, Frank Reynold's getting stuck in
- 9:59Speaker 5: a back after I should say.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 10:01Speaker 1: On the Green Man and by the way, it wasn't
- 10:03Speaker 1: a Donovan McNabb cameo.
- 10:06Speaker 2: That's the joke, I know, because it's so good.
- 10:12Speaker 1: It's such a good show, Like I haven't watched it
- 10:14Speaker 1: in a while because, like I feel like I was
- 10:16Speaker 1: just caught up.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Man.
- 10:18Speaker 1: It is so funny. It makes me love Philly. You
- 10:21Speaker 1: know how much I love Philly. It makes me love
- 10:23Speaker 1: Philly even more.
- 10:24Speaker 6: I'm the trash man.
- 10:27Speaker 1: And I love the Eagles even more. This is our
- 10:30Speaker 1: big Balls. I kind of feel like it might need
- 10:32Speaker 1: to be our foxhole too. We might need to double
- 10:35Speaker 1: down here the same way we did with the chiefs
- 10:37Speaker 1: On Simon says and exact because if all this money
- 10:41Speaker 1: is starting to come in the Commanders, it really does
- 10:44Speaker 1: feel like we're starting to be alone here.
- 10:47Speaker 3: It's God damn it.
- 10:50Speaker 5: You get into this time of year and it's really
- 10:52Speaker 5: is opinion heavy, and guys try to just throw the
- 10:54Speaker 5: numbers out, which I would love to make fun of
- 10:57Speaker 5: them and everything like that.
- 10:58Speaker 3: But I do that too.
- 10:59Speaker 5: Like that Bill's spot last week, Chad was totally right
- 11:02Speaker 5: in his thinking of the Bills were not the better
- 11:05Speaker 5: team that that. You know, Raven's team were better on
- 11:08Speaker 5: paper in almost every metric, but I kept saying, you
- 11:10Speaker 5: had to throw the numbers out. And this is the
- 11:13Speaker 5: type of game where there's plenty of guys making their statement,
- 11:16Speaker 5: taking their position on this Washington team, and it has
- 11:19Speaker 5: the same view of it. They know that this is
- 11:21Speaker 5: not as good of a team as the Eagles on paper.
- 11:24Speaker 3: They know that this is, you.
- 11:26Speaker 5: Know, I don't want to say a fluke, but it
- 11:29Speaker 5: is a fluke. Come on, let's be real, people, this
- 11:30Speaker 5: is the sixth seed. We know how rare this is.
- 11:33Speaker 5: I think Evan had an.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Amazing See it was a rookie quarterback, right.
- 11:37Speaker 5: Evan had an amazing piece about this. How it's like this,
- 11:39Speaker 5: this has never happens. And obviously, as an Eagles fan,
- 11:44Speaker 5: it doesn't get much better. I'm my team is literally
- 11:46Speaker 5: a game away from beating a rookie quarterback six seed
- 11:49Speaker 5: at home to make the super Bowl. You literally can't
- 11:52Speaker 5: have an easier position. The Chiefs got to play the
- 11:54Speaker 5: freaking Bills and vice versa. Like that's that. That's usually
- 11:57Speaker 5: whe you're getting conference championship games. You don't usually play
- 12:00Speaker 5: a rookie quarterback with a team that is just happy
- 12:03Speaker 5: to be there, right, This insane run that they've been on,
- 12:06Speaker 5: and yeah, it's been interesting breaking down the game, and
- 12:10Speaker 5: especially this week, all I'm really doing is watching a film, honestly,
- 12:14Speaker 5: Like that's that's what's so fun. When there's just two
- 12:15Speaker 5: games left, you can really dive into both teams and
- 12:18Speaker 5: obviously if you listen to show a year, I mean,
- 12:20Speaker 5: me and Chatt have talked adnows them about how much
- 12:22Speaker 5: we love Daniels and this Washington team and when we
- 12:24Speaker 5: bet them all season, we love them. I mean, I've
- 12:27Speaker 5: talked so much about how impressed I was with him,
- 12:30Speaker 5: and you know, this is a game though, you have
- 12:33Speaker 5: to really go back to what me and Chat talked
- 12:35Speaker 5: about their two previous games against the Bucks and the
- 12:37Speaker 5: lines and why they did win those games. Yes, Daniels
- 12:40Speaker 5: played incredible. It was all about turnovers, right, That to
- 12:43Speaker 5: me is at the end of the day, that was
- 12:44Speaker 5: the key to those games. And we've seen this playoffs
- 12:47Speaker 5: really dictated by that. Now that's not shocking anybody, right,
- 12:49Speaker 5: that's how it is usually. But you've seen teams play
- 12:53Speaker 5: these incredibly conservative born offenses. Three out of the four
- 12:57Speaker 5: teams have done that style this playoffs and have gotten
- 12:59Speaker 5: to this position. Now you know Daniels doesn't play that
- 13:02Speaker 5: way right. He's a high risk, highvariance type of player.
- 13:04Speaker 5: He's willing to push the ball downfield in those fifty
- 13:07Speaker 5: to fifty balls, he's willing he does.
- 13:08Speaker 1: He makes a lot of bad throws, like he's a
- 13:11Speaker 1: really right and he's incredibly accurate. I don't mean to
- 13:13Speaker 1: cut you off, but like, he's incredibly accurate, but he
- 13:17Speaker 1: makes a lot of downfield throws that if you're watching
- 13:20Speaker 1: it on television, the camera pans and these are millimeters
- 13:25Speaker 1: away from picks.
- 13:27Speaker 5: And when I found my watching this film, especially going
- 13:29Speaker 5: back to the earlier games, is how cool he is
- 13:32Speaker 5: in the pocket.
- 13:33Speaker 3: And we talked about that.
- 13:34Speaker 5: We were like, eventually he's gonna take a hit and
- 13:36Speaker 5: he won't be so calm cool in the pocket like
- 13:38Speaker 5: he was, and he did. It might have been your
- 13:40Speaker 5: Guys Bears game where he basically got rocked. I don't
- 13:43Speaker 5: know if his ribs got broken or bruised, but you
- 13:45Speaker 5: saw there was a three four game period there where
- 13:47Speaker 5: it was different, Like you could see that he after
- 13:50Speaker 5: that hit, it was different. And now he's back to
- 13:53Speaker 5: what he was though once he healed up and got
- 13:55Speaker 5: that confidence back, he's back to what he was in
- 13:57Speaker 5: week three four, Like that really confidence the pocket just I.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Can't get over how above his age he does play.
- 14:05Speaker 5: I know a lot of people have talked about this
- 14:06Speaker 5: week where it's like, you know, he might be a
- 14:08Speaker 5: rookie on paper, but he has like it feels like
- 14:10Speaker 5: a year five betteran mentality. He's just so smart, makes
- 14:14Speaker 5: the right decisions when he needs to, and yeah, when
- 14:17Speaker 5: you break it down, he'll be the X factor in
- 14:19Speaker 5: this matchup. But this really, like me and Chat talking,
- 14:21Speaker 5: this number really should be seven to seven and a half,
- 14:23Speaker 5: Like the fact that you know Golf who's never done
- 14:27Speaker 5: anything in the playoffs, honestly, Like this is the guy
- 14:30Speaker 5: with the lines that you know he has choked with
- 14:32Speaker 5: them and you could say, well he got to superl
- 14:34Speaker 5: the rams.
- 14:35Speaker 3: I mean, come on, let's be serious here.
- 14:38Speaker 5: It's it's kind of interesting where the books got that number.
- 14:41Speaker 5: He up to nine and a half and now against
- 14:44Speaker 5: an Eagles team that to me is better on paper.
- 14:46Speaker 5: They're healthy defensively, they can have all the guys offensively,
- 14:50Speaker 5: They're only a six point.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Favorite against this Washington team.
- 14:53Speaker 5: So, I mean, me and Chat were talking about how
- 14:54Speaker 5: this is an inflated line for this Washington team, that
- 14:58Speaker 5: this has moved too much. That's what we're talking because
- 15:00Speaker 5: I had a lot of people ask about that. Why
- 15:02Speaker 5: we think this is peak value for Washington. Just breaking
- 15:05Speaker 5: it down very simple. You can see how much respect
- 15:07Speaker 5: the books giving them and vice versa. They're in a
- 15:10Speaker 5: happy position to be because right now, like I said,
- 15:13Speaker 5: they need the Eagles. All this money is pouring in
- 15:15Speaker 5: on Washington and you know, me and Chat, honestly, Chat,
- 15:19Speaker 5: I thought this would be six and a half seven
- 15:21Speaker 5: when we came on today's show, So you know the
- 15:24Speaker 5: fact that at night, like I've been checking it, there
- 15:26Speaker 5: is you see the resistance from professional betters, Like a
- 15:29Speaker 5: couple of books two hit six and a half quickly
- 15:32Speaker 5: bumped down to six. So it's clear that there is
- 15:35Speaker 5: some really smart money keeping this number down. And I
- 15:38Speaker 5: think it does come back to the hurts injury to me, Like,
- 15:40Speaker 5: that's why I get why the profession was saying that,
- 15:42Speaker 5: because on one side, you have a quarterback that is
- 15:45Speaker 5: playing at a high level and he is fully healthy.
- 15:47Speaker 5: On the flip side, you have a quarterback that the
- 15:49Speaker 5: professionals and public have questions about and he's got a
- 15:53Speaker 5: bad knee. So that to me makes sense about the
- 15:55Speaker 5: resistance on this number. But like I just said to me,
- 15:58Speaker 5: that's another reason for me and you, I feel we're
- 16:00Speaker 5: getting great value on this line where it's just too
- 16:02Speaker 5: much hype, too much love for a Washington team that
- 16:05Speaker 5: has a couple little bit of a fluky fluky wins here.
- 16:07Speaker 5: Now they're being praised as one of the best teams
- 16:09Speaker 5: in the NFL.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Also, going outside, it's it's just a different game for
- 16:15Speaker 1: everybody when you're playing outside. And I'm not saying the
- 16:18Speaker 1: Commanders can't handle weather, they're an out to our team.
- 16:21Speaker 1: But when you're playing indoors, you go forward on fourth
- 16:25Speaker 1: downs and you're going against a team that is playing
- 16:29Speaker 1: basically second and third stringers across the board defensively, and
- 16:33Speaker 1: you force some turnovers early in the game. You're just
- 16:38Speaker 1: playing from a different point of view, a different perspective.
- 16:42Speaker 1: This Philadelphia team, to me, I thought.
- 16:44Speaker 2: You nailed it. It's not really.
- 16:46Speaker 1: About Jalen Hurts. It's about the offensive line and the
- 16:50Speaker 1: defensive line. And again we talked about this on Tuesday,
- 16:55Speaker 1: Sam Cosmy not playing it's kind of a big deal
- 16:59Speaker 1: because the strength of this Philly defense is what they
- 17:03Speaker 1: can do within the interior of the defensive line. Jalen
- 17:07Speaker 1: Carter is amazing. He is like he's Aaron Donald esque
- 17:12Speaker 1: this year in his ability to control a game and
- 17:15Speaker 1: impact the game as an interior defensive lineman. So like
- 17:22Speaker 1: him coming up to God against Jadon Daniels is going
- 17:24Speaker 1: to be really really daunting. Especially in this kind of scenario.
- 17:30Speaker 1: You gotta like, yeah, you can't. You can't take that
- 17:35Speaker 1: factor away.
- 17:36Speaker 5: And we also talked about the Eagles have not played
- 17:40Speaker 5: their game yet, like they have not played a sound
- 17:42Speaker 5: perfect game like we were used to when they were
- 17:44Speaker 5: rolling mid season. On the flip side, Washington's coming off,
- 17:47Speaker 5: in my opinion, their best game of the season. Like
- 17:49Speaker 5: going back and watching that game, every little thing they
- 17:52Speaker 5: did kind of broke their way.
- 17:53Speaker 3: The only really dumb mistake they made.
- 17:55Speaker 5: Was that weird Mariota pitching trying to pitch the ball back.
- 17:58Speaker 5: And yeah, this is why I do give respect to
- 18:00Speaker 5: Dan Quinn. He went to Kingsbury whoever you went and
- 18:03Speaker 5: talked to me. He just said, we're not taking the
- 18:06Speaker 5: ball out of our best player's hand and losing this
- 18:08Speaker 5: game again. Like from now on, a fourth down no more. Bullshit,
- 18:11Speaker 5: dumb gimmick plays. We're gonna give the ball to Daniel's
- 18:14Speaker 5: only because that was the type of play where you're
- 18:16Speaker 5: just like, you're overthinking at Washington, what are you doing
- 18:18Speaker 5: in this type of big moment? And you know, the
- 18:21Speaker 5: rest of that game so sound, and you know, like
- 18:24Speaker 5: you just said, this Eagles game is outdoors. I have
- 18:29Speaker 5: moved to the over. Originally I like the under in
- 18:31Speaker 5: this matchup. I have flipped to the over, and just
- 18:34Speaker 5: because the number has moved too much and I basically
- 18:36Speaker 5: have this total forty eight and a half, so it's
- 18:38Speaker 5: only a point difference. Right right now is forty seven
- 18:40Speaker 5: and a half still showing valley to the over.
- 18:42Speaker 3: And it really is all about what we just talked about.
- 18:44Speaker 5: The weather now, if you live in the Northeast or
- 18:47Speaker 5: just an America in general, we're in a deep freeze
- 18:49Speaker 5: right now. It's absolutely awful outside. It's like ten degrees
- 18:53Speaker 5: in most places. It's gonna warm up by this week.
- 18:55Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw it, chat, it's supposed
- 18:56Speaker 5: to be in the mid forties come Sunday. Okay, no rain,
- 19:01Speaker 5: mid forties, Like you just said, both these teams are
- 19:03Speaker 5: from the same area. They're used to being out in
- 19:05Speaker 5: this cold. I don't think it's going to affect the
- 19:07Speaker 5: offenses like I did this past week with Eagles. I
- 19:09Speaker 5: don't think we'll see as many drops from the Eagles
- 19:11Speaker 5: insane from this Washing team. I think they'll be fine
- 19:13Speaker 5: playing these elements. But like you just said, the difference
- 19:16Speaker 5: will be Washington just played in Florida and then an
- 19:20Speaker 5: indoor game against Detroit like, so, this will be the
- 19:22Speaker 5: first time they are out.
- 19:23Speaker 3: In the cold in the elements in the playoffs, and
- 19:25Speaker 3: you know, no.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Go ahead, Sorry, Noah, go ahead.
- 19:30Speaker 1: The one thing that worries me is that this Eagles
- 19:34Speaker 1: team is incredibly reliant on big plays, specifically big plays
- 19:41Speaker 1: from Saquon. We saw it in the Rams game, two
- 19:45Speaker 1: huge touchdown runs. I was at that Eagles Commander's game
- 19:50Speaker 1: in November where they were down most of the game
- 19:54Speaker 1: and the only reason they won that game is because
- 19:56Speaker 1: there were two long Saquon touchdown runs. That's kind of
- 20:00Speaker 1: been the theme of the year. We talked about as
- 20:03Speaker 1: rushing prop on Tuesday. It was one hundred and twenty
- 20:05Speaker 1: seven and a half by the time we were off
- 20:08Speaker 1: the show, and we talked about this on air. It
- 20:10Speaker 1: was already at one hundred and twenty nine and a half.
- 20:13Speaker 1: One other sports book, very public sports book, High Profile
- 20:17Speaker 1: sports Book yesterday announced that Saquon's rushing total at one
- 20:22Speaker 1: hundred and thirty is the highest rushing total they've ever
- 20:25Speaker 1: had for a prop. Do we worry that this team
- 20:30Speaker 1: is too reliant on big plays? Do we think big
- 20:33Speaker 1: plays are predictive? And are they something that you can
- 20:39Speaker 1: count on or are they totally random and that skews
- 20:46Speaker 1: our perception of the Eagles?
- 20:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:49Speaker 5: I would say if you have the number one offensive
- 20:52Speaker 5: line of football and all Pro and aj Brown, then
- 20:55Speaker 5: all Pro and Saquon probably gonna get big plays.
- 20:58Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the honest truth. So I get
- 21:00Speaker 3: where you're coming from. Yeah.
- 21:02Speaker 5: Ideally, do I want the Eagles to drive the field
- 21:04Speaker 5: and then all their red zone trips are touchdowns?
- 21:07Speaker 3: That'd be great.
- 21:08Speaker 5: But I mean people keep pointing to the fact that, oh,
- 21:10Speaker 5: the Eagles haven't been great in the red zone even
- 21:11Speaker 5: last week, right, they struggled in the red zone. No,
- 21:15Speaker 5: I don't really mind that. I don't worry about that
- 21:17Speaker 5: stuff too much. Like big plays can be inconsistent if
- 21:20Speaker 5: it's all wide receiver that to me be scary, right
- 21:24Speaker 5: if it was the Tyreek Hill type of deal where
- 21:25Speaker 5: it's like, well, if we don't have Tyreek Hill downfield,
- 21:28Speaker 5: then our offense kind of stalls, right, we need to
- 21:30Speaker 5: we rely on those big plays to move the ball downfield.
- 21:33Speaker 3: The Eagles aren't that.
- 21:34Speaker 5: I mean, they just the reason they have those big
- 21:35Speaker 5: plays numbers is because they wear teams out and eventually,
- 21:39Speaker 5: like we talked about, Saquon gets these teams in the
- 21:40Speaker 5: fourth quarter and that's when he breaks out for those
- 21:42Speaker 5: long runs. So you know the stats we gave out
- 21:46Speaker 5: on Tuesday about this Washington run defense and how bad
- 21:49Speaker 5: they are the second level, that just adds more fuel
- 21:52Speaker 5: to the fire of this team going to be hitting
- 21:54Speaker 5: big plays.
- 21:54Speaker 3: I mean, it lines up for this Eagles team.
- 21:56Speaker 5: So I told you my biggest worry here is going
- 21:59Speaker 5: to be same thing we had when I was betting
- 22:02Speaker 5: Washington against the Lions.
- 22:04Speaker 3: It's the fourth down regression.
- 22:06Speaker 5: Like it's we're at we're at historical numbers at this
- 22:09Speaker 5: point with the fourth down with this Washington team, and
- 22:13Speaker 5: it did come to bite us, like even that Bucks game, right,
- 22:15Speaker 5: they had a couple failed fourth downs and that Lions game.
- 22:18Speaker 5: We just talked about Mariota play. There are opportunities for
- 22:21Speaker 5: this Eagles team to get stops. And you know dan Quinn,
- 22:24Speaker 5: he's getting tons of praise right now, well deserved if
- 22:27Speaker 5: he goes for it on his own thirty five on
- 22:28Speaker 5: fourth down, right, say they're down seven in the second
- 22:31Speaker 5: quarter and he goes for it.
- 22:32Speaker 3: There the Eagle stop them. Now they're up fourteen. Well
- 22:35Speaker 3: you look like.
- 22:36Speaker 5: An idiot or will just be like, no, this is
- 22:38Speaker 5: who this guy's been all season. It's just been working.
- 22:40Speaker 5: So that's that's gonna be interesting part here in this game.
- 22:42Speaker 5: To me, it's gonna be another game where if Daniels
- 22:45Speaker 5: hits these fourth downs, yeah, they can stay in this
- 22:48Speaker 5: game easily. I Mean, we all know the track record
- 22:51Speaker 5: of you know, divisional opponents keeping games close in the spot.
- 22:53Speaker 5: But when you really dive into the numbers, this this
- 22:56Speaker 5: would really be an embarrassing loss for the Eagles. Like
- 22:59Speaker 5: all honestly, you were getting a rookie quarterback on a
- 23:02Speaker 5: team that is basically going to rebuild season. The fact
- 23:06Speaker 5: they come into your home stadium and win this playoff
- 23:08Speaker 5: game would be shocking just because across the line, like
- 23:12Speaker 5: we just talked about the d line matches up incredibly
- 23:14Speaker 5: against this O line of Washington Egos offensive line even
- 23:18Speaker 5: more so, I mean second level. All of it lines
- 23:21Speaker 5: up really well. We give tons of credit though, to Washington.
- 23:23Speaker 5: Like Bobby Wagner, he was left for dead. This man's
- 23:26Speaker 5: come in and made a huge difference to this team.
- 23:28Speaker 5: Zach Ertz, another guy left for dead, has come and
- 23:31Speaker 5: made like veteran presidents on this Washington team has been
- 23:33Speaker 5: huge and made these few different. So they do have
- 23:35Speaker 5: guys who've played in these big games, these big moments.
- 23:37Speaker 5: But this is an Eagles team that basically was in
- 23:39Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, you know, a year and a half ago.
- 23:41Speaker 5: So it's like we've seen time and time again in sports,
- 23:44Speaker 5: teams usually have to go through growing pains, and you
- 23:48Speaker 5: expect Washington someday they'll.
- 23:50Speaker 3: Get to this level.
- 23:50Speaker 5: Some day, they won't make a super Bowl. It would
- 23:53Speaker 5: be shocking for them to get there this early, like
- 23:55Speaker 5: they haven't gone through the pain that almost all teams
- 23:57Speaker 5: need to go through to get to that next level.
- 23:59Speaker 5: Even the all God we talk about Patrick Mahomes, he
- 24:03Speaker 5: needed to lose to Brady at home in that AFC
- 24:05Speaker 5: Championship game.
- 24:06Speaker 3: Then he needed to lose the Super Bowl.
- 24:07Speaker 5: I mean he did win it obviously against fort Niners,
- 24:09Speaker 5: but then he need to lose against Brady in the
- 24:10Speaker 5: Super Bowl eventually, like these these great quarterbacks all go
- 24:13Speaker 5: through it. We think Jane Dams will eventually be one
- 24:16Speaker 5: of these greats, but he has not gone through any
- 24:18Speaker 5: pain yet.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Right, It's all been good. That's why you watch TV.
- 24:21Speaker 5: Everyone's just loving this team, hype him up, making him
- 24:23Speaker 5: a top five quarterback in this league.
- 24:25Speaker 3: I mean, I still can't get over with Chad. There's
- 24:27Speaker 3: sixteen to one next year in Super Bowl.
- 24:28Speaker 5: Futures, this Commanders team, So it just it's all peaking
- 24:32Speaker 5: right now. They're the darling of the NFL. They beat
- 24:35Speaker 5: the one seed, a team that you know, people if
- 24:37Speaker 5: are unbeatable. And on the flip side of this, the
- 24:39Speaker 5: Eagles team, people have not believed them all the way.
- 24:42Speaker 5: I mean, you can go through it. People picked the
- 24:44Speaker 5: Rams to upset them just last week, like that was
- 24:46Speaker 5: a big bet by a lot of people. And you know,
- 24:49Speaker 5: when you really got dive into it, Eagles probably should
- 24:51Speaker 5: have won against Green Bay by double digits. Should it
- 24:53Speaker 5: beat last week by double digits? Right, they just didn't
- 24:56Speaker 5: think that things break their way. So it's it's a
- 24:59Speaker 5: unique opportunity to have team like the Eagles be underrated
- 25:01Speaker 5: even though they've been one of the top three, top
- 25:04Speaker 5: four best teams in football all season.
- 25:06Speaker 3: So it is a unique position.
- 25:08Speaker 5: Like me and Chav talked about this is it feels
- 25:11Speaker 5: too easy. That's my fear here, Chad, where it's like,
- 25:13Speaker 5: right now, I'm able to get you know, in a teaser,
- 25:15Speaker 5: i can get them down just to win this game.
- 25:17Speaker 5: And I'm just shocked this has stayed under seven. And
- 25:19Speaker 5: I do think it all comes back through the hurts,
- 25:21Speaker 5: injury and the public and professional money coming in so
- 25:24Speaker 5: heavy on this commander's team where I'm shocked to see
- 25:27Speaker 5: how much money is poured in on this team. Like
- 25:29Speaker 5: I really do think by the time we do the
- 25:30Speaker 5: show it'll be more balanced. It's still heavy towards commanders.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Jake Elliott, do your fucking job. The extra points. This
- 25:41Speaker 1: line is six, right. We felt the last week it
- 25:44Speaker 1: pushed on six because Jake Elliott was missing extra points.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Jake Elliott, do your job. It's all we're asking.
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- 27:15Speaker 1: I went, I went off script on Matt's read there.
- 27:19Speaker 1: I hope he's okay with it. What did you think
- 27:21Speaker 1: of my howl?
- 27:23Speaker 3: I don't know what you're going for there? That was
- 27:25Speaker 3: definitely a wolf hel though. Oh all right?
- 27:31Speaker 1: Buffalo, Kansas City, Kansas City minus one and a half.
- 27:33Speaker 1: The totals forty seven and a half. This was Simon says,
- 27:37Speaker 1: the Chiefs on the Money line is our exec decision
- 27:41Speaker 1: taken a minute to get some traction. It's it's moving
- 27:43Speaker 1: to two in some spots. You know, we'll have Matt
- 27:47Speaker 1: Mitchell come on if he can promise to, you know,
- 27:51Speaker 1: keep it, keep it tight.
- 27:52Speaker 2: We're trying to keep the.
- 27:53Speaker 1: Podcast less than four hours today because he came on
- 27:58Speaker 1: before the show.
- 28:00Speaker 2: I think this is why he's a little hot today,
- 28:02Speaker 2: because he.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Said he bet an inordinate amount of money, an obscene
- 28:06Speaker 1: amount of money.
- 28:07Speaker 2: On the Buffalo Bills. We obviously are both on the
- 28:11Speaker 2: Chiefs here.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I would like Matt Mitchell to come on as the
- 28:16Speaker 1: resident Bills obsessive.
- 28:19Speaker 2: He's an excellent better.
- 28:20Speaker 1: He's not just a mediocre podcast producer and a Bill's freak.
- 28:24Speaker 1: He's an excellent better. So, Matt, you want to explain
- 28:28Speaker 1: yourself while you're going against the hosts of the show.
- 28:31Speaker 6: WHI Chad, it's nice to be on. I hope you're well.
- 28:34Speaker 6: I appreciate all the listeners and the outpouring of support
- 28:37Speaker 6: following your incoherent and asinine breakdown of your Chiefs Love
- 28:43Speaker 6: last episode. I've realized that since the infamous thirteen seconds
- 28:50Speaker 6: game three years ago. I have done a very good
- 28:53Speaker 6: job of locking my heart away and developing a thick
- 28:58Speaker 6: candy shell so that I'm not as absolutely crushed by
- 29:02Speaker 6: a loss in the playoffs as I was after that game,
- 29:06Speaker 6: so that the Bengals loss in the playoffs meant very little. Also,
- 29:09Speaker 6: they just lost regular style, which is what I always
- 29:11Speaker 6: ask of them. Even last week, I felt more relief
- 29:16Speaker 6: than joy in a victory that was very hard fought,
- 29:19Speaker 6: in one that I was consumed with dread leading up
- 29:21Speaker 6: to it. And I'm realizing, Chad, that I'm not able
- 29:24Speaker 6: to hit those those the high highs, the true mania
- 29:31Speaker 6: of an incredible victory, because I've been holding back and
- 29:34Speaker 6: shielding myself and the time has finally come. I used
- 29:38Speaker 6: to to dance like everyone's watching and love like I'll
- 29:41Speaker 6: always get hurt, But now I'm ready. I'm ready to
- 29:44Speaker 6: get hurt, and I'm going to go into this game
- 29:47Speaker 6: filled with optimism and excitement ruthlessness that the Bills will
- 29:52Speaker 6: leave Kansas City victorious. And I'm putting my money where
- 29:56Speaker 6: my mouth is, and I'm disgusted with myself that I'd
- 29:59Speaker 6: be saying this out loud to so many people, But
- 30:02Speaker 6: I'm in. I'm fucking all in. I've heard enough. It's
- 30:05Speaker 6: time for men of action.
- 30:07Speaker 3: To do just that. So go Bills.
- 30:10Speaker 1: That is a end of a rom com worthy soliloquy
- 30:15Speaker 1: about your love and your willingness to expose yourself and
- 30:21Speaker 1: be vulnerable this weekend. I believe it was Bob Scucci
- 30:26Speaker 1: who once said, when all hope is gone, all that's
- 30:29Speaker 1: left is relief. Yeah, it might be something you were
- 30:34Speaker 1: feeling at some point, and I'm glad that you are
- 30:38Speaker 1: getting back to finding euphoria enjoy as a sports fan.
- 30:44Speaker 1: My Kansas City Chiefs take which I know what you're
- 30:47Speaker 1: referring to, and listeners know what you're referring to, which
- 30:50Speaker 1: you went after me for when I couldn't defend myself.
- 30:54Speaker 1: You dropped it into the podcast on Tuesday. Is I'm
- 30:57Speaker 1: rooting for history. I'm not saying I'm rooting for the
- 31:00Speaker 1: thing that's never happened, which is to beat the Buffalo Bills,
- 31:03Speaker 1: because the Buffalo Bills get beaten by everybody. My point was,
- 31:07Speaker 1: I want to see the three pet That's what I'm
- 31:10Speaker 1: rooting for. Matt Mitchell. I'm rooting for historical dominance of
- 31:15Speaker 1: dynastic proportions.
- 31:17Speaker 2: The fucking Buffalo.
- 31:18Speaker 6: Bills have been playing fucking football for longer than there's
- 31:22Speaker 6: been a Super Bowl, and they've have not won a
- 31:25Speaker 6: Super Bowl.
- 31:26Speaker 3: That is pretty goddamn historic.
- 31:27Speaker 6: All you gotta say, Chad, all you gotta do is
- 31:29Speaker 6: go into that fucking microphone and say, you know what,
- 31:33Speaker 6: I'm rooting for the team that never loses, to not lose.
- 31:38Speaker 6: I'm rooting for the team with the better coach. I'm
- 31:40Speaker 6: rooting for the best quarterback to beat the second best quarterback.
- 31:42Speaker 6: I'm rooting for the team that is favored to win
- 31:45Speaker 6: the game at home.
- 31:46Speaker 1: Here, I'm rooting for the team that has the opportunity
- 31:51Speaker 1: to win three straight Super Bowls. I'm rooting for the
- 31:54Speaker 1: team that has a quarterback that has the opportunity to
- 31:58Speaker 1: set standards that have never before been seen in the
- 32:02Speaker 1: history of the NFL, which has been around longer than
- 32:05Speaker 1: the Buffalo fucking Bills. So that's what I'm rooting for.
- 32:09Speaker 1: The See, I have the bigger picture, I think, much
- 32:12Speaker 1: bigger than you do, Matt. I'm not thinking myopically. I'm
- 32:15Speaker 1: not thinking, Oh, how does this all impact the tiny,
- 32:19Speaker 1: cute little paris of Western New York franchise Buffalo Bills.
- 32:23Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how does this impact all of fandom? How
- 32:27Speaker 1: does this impact sports history? Where does this put Patrick
- 32:31Speaker 1: Mahomes in the legendary status of the greatest athletes and
- 32:36Speaker 1: achievers who have ever lived. I'm not thinking, Oh, does
- 32:41Speaker 1: the team that always wins?
- 32:42Speaker 2: Are they going to win? That's not how I'm thinking
- 32:44Speaker 2: about it.
- 32:45Speaker 4: Chad.
- 32:45Speaker 6: Okay, listeners, I had to do a visualization exercise on Sunday.
- 32:48Speaker 6: I want you to do another one again. Unless you're driving,
- 32:51Speaker 6: keep your eyes open. Unless you're driving, close your eyes.
- 32:53Speaker 6: I want you to picture Chadnleman walking into a beautiful,
- 32:57Speaker 6: glittering casino. He's walking through the casino. He's going to
- 33:02Speaker 6: the high roller room. He's walking through it. He's saying, no, no,
- 33:06Speaker 6: you know what, I need to go to the to
- 33:08Speaker 6: the lowest limits. I want to see the biggest losers.
- 33:10Speaker 6: I want to join them. He goes over to the
- 33:11Speaker 6: biggest losers shoe a blackjack and he sits down and
- 33:15Speaker 6: they say how much how much do you want? He says, oh,
- 33:19Speaker 6: no chips for me. I'm here rooting for the dealer.
- 33:22Speaker 6: And he has a little pennant that says go casino.
- 33:25Speaker 6: That's what you're that's the argument you are making, go
- 33:28Speaker 6: house money.
- 33:29Speaker 1: Matt and I have been at each other all morning
- 33:31Speaker 1: because I asked a simple question in one of our
- 33:34Speaker 1: slack channels. Simon, We're on the Chiefs, Go Chiefs. We
- 33:40Speaker 1: love the Chiefs. Why am I worried about the Chiefs?
- 33:44Speaker 3: If we still have a producer?
- 33:45Speaker 5: You got to cut that last thirty minutes unbelievable back
- 33:49Speaker 5: and forth by Chat and Matt and Mitchell.
- 33:51Speaker 3: Holy shit. Yeah.
- 33:53Speaker 5: My only question in Matt Mitchell is if you know
- 33:55Speaker 5: what you're doing here. You're supposed to bet the Chiefs
- 33:58Speaker 5: so you can actually win money when your team loses,
- 34:00Speaker 5: rather than you lose money and you are depressed for
- 34:03Speaker 5: a year when your team.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Loses and nobody in your beautiful Milwaukee neighborhood gets ice cream.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Jus, you have no money left.
- 34:10Speaker 6: Right Imagine one guy rooting for the fucking casino and
- 34:13Speaker 6: another guy with the most cowardly, fucking approach in history.
- 34:17Speaker 6: That's where we have this drop, which I'll play right now.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Simon Hunter, professional coward.
- 34:24Speaker 6: I would never hedge emotionally or otherwise, but I wish
- 34:27Speaker 6: you the best of luck.
- 34:28Speaker 3: No, I'm smart.
- 34:29Speaker 5: I actually bet on my favorite team in August, unlike
- 34:31Speaker 5: Matt Mitchell here who bets on his favorite team.
- 34:34Speaker 3: Beat you a lot.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Now, this is great.
- 34:37Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't sleep, I don't need I do nothing
- 34:40Speaker 5: to think of you, Kansas City Chiefs.
- 34:42Speaker 3: I just can't.
- 34:42Speaker 5: I keep looking for ways to fade this Chiefs team
- 34:45Speaker 5: chat and we're here. We can't do There's no reason
- 34:48Speaker 5: not to bet this number. It's low. It's a great
- 34:50Speaker 5: matchup for them, and we talked about this Bill's team.
- 34:54Speaker 5: It's been an incredible season. This is a team that
- 34:56Speaker 5: had thirty million dead calf for Stefan Dicks. It's seventy
- 35:00Speaker 5: million in dead cap overall on this roster this season.
- 35:03Speaker 3: People, that's fucking insane.
- 35:05Speaker 5: They're literally paying seventy million to the guys who are
- 35:07Speaker 5: arming on this roster and they are in the finals,
- 35:09Speaker 5: the AFC Finals. It's I can't believe it. So this
- 35:12Speaker 5: is a team that's overachieved all because they have the
- 35:15Speaker 5: mutant that is Josh Allen, the greatest quarterbacks to play
- 35:18Speaker 5: this game. Can you get over the hump, Chad? That's
- 35:20Speaker 5: what everyone's betting on them. The public has the same
- 35:22Speaker 5: exact view as Matt Mitchell, like, they're coming in heavy
- 35:25Speaker 5: on this Bills team, not because they're sick of the Chiefs,
- 35:28Speaker 5: but they think this is the destiny, this is the
- 35:30Speaker 5: year of Josh Allen, and they're betting them hard. I
- 35:33Speaker 5: mean even in the action app I'm looking at right now,
- 35:36Speaker 5: seventy percent of the bets, same percent.
- 35:38Speaker 3: Of the money. Right now.
- 35:38Speaker 5: We're on the Buffalo Bills on the road in Kansas City.
- 35:42Speaker 5: This is a team that was perfect at home, but
- 35:45Speaker 5: they struggled on the road this season. And the struggle
- 35:48Speaker 5: on the road was their defense. It wasn't once again,
- 35:50Speaker 5: wasn't Josh Allen was the defense. So yeah, it's it's
- 35:55Speaker 5: interesting that people are so confidently betting a bad number
- 35:57Speaker 5: on this Bills team, where it's like this should be
- 35:59Speaker 5: two and a have three. They're happy to line up
- 36:02Speaker 5: and take a bad number one and a half or two.
- 36:04Speaker 5: So yeah, like I said, bookmakers are happy. I'm extremely happy.
- 36:08Speaker 5: It's a rare position to be in chat. We're basically
- 36:10Speaker 5: on a Chiefs team that the public is doubting, and
- 36:13Speaker 5: it's the exact scenario that happened last year. The Chiefs,
- 36:17Speaker 5: people forget, were a five or four point dog at
- 36:20Speaker 5: the Ravens last year, they got up to five and
- 36:22Speaker 5: a half before kickoff, five and a half dog. No
- 36:25Speaker 5: one was betting the Chiefs that line was running up.
- 36:28Speaker 5: Even the actual happen. Believe it was less than twenty
- 36:30Speaker 5: percent of the bet twenty percent money on the Chiefs
- 36:31Speaker 5: in that exact spot. They rolled that Ravens team. And
- 36:35Speaker 5: that's that's literally what this exact scenary is playing out
- 36:37Speaker 5: right here. People are doubting, not believing the Chiefs team,
- 36:40Speaker 5: betting the other side. And yeah, you can wave your
- 36:42Speaker 5: hands and try to act like no one believes in
- 36:45Speaker 5: us if you're the Bills people do, that's just not true.
- 36:48Speaker 5: You guys are the darling favor right now of the league,
- 36:50Speaker 5: just like the Commanders. So I love our position that
- 36:53Speaker 5: we're in. The Chiefs to me or the better team
- 36:55Speaker 5: across the board in every position except the strongest part
- 36:58Speaker 5: of this Bills team obviously is on that offensive line,
- 37:01Speaker 5: and that to me is our only fear here, Chad.
- 37:03Speaker 5: If the Chiefs can't stop the run, we're done here.
- 37:06Speaker 5: Because the Bills have a vault. They're a different team
- 37:08Speaker 5: now where they play smart, they don't turn over. If
- 37:10Speaker 5: we can get a lead with this Chiefs team have
- 37:13Speaker 5: to make Josh Allen drop back a ton of throw
- 37:15Speaker 5: the ball a lot. That to me is how the
- 37:17Speaker 5: Chiefs can come out on top of this one because
- 37:19Speaker 5: we know the weakness of this Bills team.
- 37:20Speaker 3: They don't have.
- 37:21Speaker 5: Receivers, like they got rid of their two top dogs,
- 37:23Speaker 5: and he's just thrown in nameless guys, right, I mean
- 37:25Speaker 5: Amari Cooper who they traded for. He's been non existent
- 37:28Speaker 5: since they got them. Like this just it's not great.
- 37:31Speaker 5: And you know, like I said, incredible run by this
- 37:35Speaker 5: this Bills team, but they've run into a juggernaut that's
- 37:39Speaker 5: not going to lose this game. Like the Ravens kind
- 37:41Speaker 5: of lost that game last week. Let's let's be honest here,
- 37:43Speaker 5: the Ravens beat themselves. I'd be shocked if the Chiefs
- 37:46Speaker 5: beat themselves in this matchup at home. And we've seen
- 37:49Speaker 5: the stats from Evan when it's cold below foy degrees
- 37:52Speaker 5: in arrowhead in the playoffs, this is when you want
- 37:55Speaker 5: to back Mahomes. He just lives up to these moments
- 37:57Speaker 5: in the exact spots. So yeah, I really can't believe
- 38:00Speaker 5: we're only getting We're getting minus one and a half
- 38:02Speaker 5: with the Chiefs at home in the spot and no
- 38:04Speaker 5: one's betting them. It's it really is shocking right now,
- 38:06Speaker 5: look into that metric and seeing that we are on
- 38:09Speaker 5: the team that no one believes in and their home favorite.
- 38:11Speaker 5: So yeah, obvious, you can tell you Jack feeling pretty
- 38:13Speaker 5: confident about this Chief side.
- 38:16Speaker 1: There is a better according to Patrick Everson, who placed
- 38:19Speaker 1: a one point three million dollar bet on the Chiefs
- 38:25Speaker 1: to win the game. Just on the money line, I'll
- 38:30Speaker 1: reiterate Patrick Mahomes in November, December, January, when it's forty
- 38:36Speaker 1: degrees or less, twenty three and two straight up.
- 38:40Speaker 2: He's won twenty in a row.
- 38:42Speaker 1: His last loss was to Tom Brady in two thousand
- 38:46Speaker 1: and nineteen. The only fear here is Josh Allen, and
- 38:53Speaker 1: you know he's so good at avoiding sacks and the
- 38:57Speaker 1: Chiefs pressure as much as George Carloft has been amazing
- 39:01Speaker 1: on the edge recently, their pressure is Chris Jones on
- 39:04Speaker 1: the inside unless he is moving himself to the edges.
- 39:07Speaker 1: But when Josh Allen gets flushed, he is very hard
- 39:12Speaker 1: to sack, like so difficult to put into plays behind
- 39:17Speaker 1: the sticks.
- 39:18Speaker 2: Right.
- 39:19Speaker 1: That to me is like the biggest fears every time
- 39:21Speaker 1: he rolls out, I get a little nervous when I'm
- 39:25Speaker 1: betting against Josh Allen.
- 39:28Speaker 2: But I think to your.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Point, teams are not the same when they play the
- 39:33Speaker 1: Chiefs in the playoffs that they are throughout the year
- 39:36Speaker 1: because they're not thinking, oh, I have many many series
- 39:41Speaker 1: in which to make up for any mistakes. Every series
- 39:45Speaker 1: is so critical. You get tighter when you think you
- 39:48Speaker 1: can't make a mistake, and everyone believes they cannot make
- 39:51Speaker 1: a mistake against Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. He's that magical,
- 39:56Speaker 1: he's that awesome. I think that has a real impact
- 40:01Speaker 1: in these games that just doesn't get accounted for in
- 40:04Speaker 1: the spread.
- 40:05Speaker 2: I don't know if you feel the same way I do.
- 40:07Speaker 5: And I also think that's some of the reason why
- 40:08Speaker 5: I love the under here, where it's like both these
- 40:11Speaker 5: teams are going to play super slow and conservative and
- 40:14Speaker 5: just eat the clock up because they have the same
- 40:15Speaker 5: view we have. Keep the offense off the field like that.
- 40:18Speaker 5: That's how you're gonna win this game. Right now, let
- 40:20Speaker 5: the other team get in their rhythm. So coming into it,
- 40:22Speaker 5: I think both game plans are gonna be run heavy,
- 40:24Speaker 5: and you know, we talk a little bit about Matt Milano.
- 40:28Speaker 5: That's a big X factor for this Bill's defense. I
- 40:31Speaker 5: know that yesterday he was limited with a hamstring, so
- 40:35Speaker 5: you know, great that it's not a knee. Terrible that
- 40:37Speaker 5: it's a hamstring, Like, you don't want a guy to
- 40:39Speaker 5: have hamstring issues heading into a game that, like you
- 40:42Speaker 5: just said, it's gonna be below forty degrees. That's not ideal,
- 40:45Speaker 5: especially for such an important defender. That's you know, an
- 40:48Speaker 5: older guy Matt Milano in this spot. So yeah, that's
- 40:53Speaker 5: it's I was really trying to be on the Bills, honestly,
- 40:56Speaker 5: Jack coming into it, because I just I love this
- 40:58Speaker 5: team and their story.
- 40:59Speaker 3: But to me, it was all about the number, and
- 41:02Speaker 3: it never got to where I.
- 41:03Speaker 5: Felt comfortable that this would be a good Bills line
- 41:05Speaker 5: to bet, Like, it never got to two and a
- 41:07Speaker 5: half three.
- 41:07Speaker 3: And it's what we just talked about.
- 41:09Speaker 5: They are beloved right now by the public and there's
- 41:12Speaker 5: plenty of smart professional money out there coming to heavy
- 41:14Speaker 5: on them as well. So I'm not trying to have
- 41:17Speaker 5: people ever think this year you're getting very unique opportunity.
- 41:19Speaker 5: You have two home favorites that the public doesn't really
- 41:22Speaker 5: believe in, and you're getting a good number on both
- 41:24Speaker 5: of them.
- 41:24Speaker 3: So I like this position we're in.
- 41:27Speaker 5: It doesn't feel like it was you know in other
- 41:30Speaker 5: years where everyone's just hammering these number one and number
- 41:32Speaker 5: two seeds. This is a unique season where people don't
- 41:35Speaker 5: believe in this one or two seed. People believe in
- 41:37Speaker 5: the road dogs, and the money you can follow it.
- 41:41Speaker 5: It says that they believe in them. So it's gonna
- 41:43Speaker 5: be interesting by game time. See if it comes on
- 41:45Speaker 5: the other side. If you know, the professional public money
- 41:48Speaker 5: does show up on the Chiefs and the Eagles, because
- 41:49Speaker 5: right now, this early money, it is, without a doubt,
- 41:52Speaker 5: all these road dogs.
- 41:55Speaker 1: So interesting how people's perceptions can be changed by how
- 42:01Speaker 1: brilliant just the quarterbacks are. Right, Josh Allen and Jaden
- 42:07Speaker 1: Daniels have been much better players this year than Patrick
- 42:10Speaker 1: Mahomes and Jalen Hurts, and it has put us in
- 42:12Speaker 1: a position. You're one hundred percent right. I don't think
- 42:15Speaker 1: we've ever had an experience where we both like a
- 42:19Speaker 1: home favorite that are the higher seeds that none of
- 42:23Speaker 1: the public wants to bet. It's it's such a it's
- 42:29Speaker 1: a different position for us entirely. But like you said,
- 42:32Speaker 1: we're all over the Eagles. We're all over the Chiefs.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Really important stuff. By the way, one more injury report.
- 42:41Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp safety did not practice for the Bills yesterday.
- 42:46Speaker 1: He's got that hip injury that could be significant. You
- 42:49Speaker 1: mentioned Milano. He was limited in practice. We saw what
- 42:52Speaker 1: a difference he made for the Bills against the Ravens
- 42:55Speaker 1: last week. Christian Benford, the cornerback, had a concussion last week,
- 42:59Speaker 1: was in practice, which could be a good sign because
- 43:02Speaker 1: it means he got back on the field. It's one
- 43:04Speaker 1: of the first steps you have to make to get
- 43:05Speaker 1: through the concussion protocol. So those are the latest updates.
- 43:09Speaker 1: No real injuries of note for the Chiefs. Okay to
- 43:13Speaker 1: Hedge or not to Hedge. So I got these questions
- 43:15Speaker 1: on Twitter before the season began. We each gave out
- 43:20Speaker 1: future bets we liked, including super Bowl matchups. Mine was
- 43:24Speaker 1: amongst many Chiefs versus Eagles in the Super Bowl. Every
- 43:29Speaker 1: year I do a matchup round robin in which I
- 43:31Speaker 1: bet the teams whose preseason.
- 43:33Speaker 2: Super Bowl odds are twelve to one or shorter.
- 43:35Speaker 1: It's a bet that Evan tipped me off to in
- 43:37Speaker 1: his preseason story last year. Heading into last year, it
- 43:42Speaker 1: was nine of ten matchups had been from teams that
- 43:46Speaker 1: had odds of twelve to win or shorter. Last year
- 43:49Speaker 1: it happened again. The Chiefs and Eagles were both in
- 43:52Speaker 1: this group. Their odds to meet in the Super Bowl preseason,
- 43:54Speaker 1: we're twenty eight to one. I bet that I have
- 43:57Speaker 1: that existing before we go to Simons u whose bet
- 44:01Speaker 1: is even more exciting because people like to say, no,
- 44:05Speaker 1: you didn't really do that, Gifford.
- 44:07Speaker 2: Let's go to the video evidence.
- 44:11Speaker 5: My finals, Chiefs winning over the Eagles once again in
- 44:15Speaker 5: the Super Bowl.
- 44:16Speaker 3: If to win three straight and.
- 44:17Speaker 5: You can get that right now at fifty five to
- 44:19Speaker 5: one on bet three sixty five Chiefs beating the Eagles
- 44:22Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl, I.
- 44:23Speaker 3: Just think it's there.
- 44:24Speaker 5: They're both going to be the one seeds if they're
- 44:27Speaker 5: both at home. Like if the Lines got to come
- 44:30Speaker 5: to Philadelphia in mid January, if Purdy has to come
- 44:33Speaker 5: to Philadelphia in mid January, I just think the Eagles
- 44:36Speaker 5: should win that game. The only hesitation I just talked
- 44:38Speaker 5: about is the Rams, Like I think of all the
- 44:40Speaker 5: guys that wouldn't be phased about that kind of environment
- 44:43Speaker 5: is Stafford. But yeah, I have the Eagles winning it.
- 44:46Speaker 5: Then versus the Chiefs, the Chiefs winning the Eagles in
- 44:48Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. It's just Chad knows, I love bett
- 44:51Speaker 5: on history. I want to be part of history. It's
- 44:53Speaker 5: just it's one of my favorite things, and this is
- 44:55Speaker 5: the team to do it. Like, It's just the Super
- 44:58Speaker 5: Bowl team always gets a little weaker. I mean we've
- 45:00Speaker 5: seen it right now with the forty nine ers, like
- 45:01Speaker 5: all that drama they're having to deal with. Yeah, yeah,
- 45:03Speaker 5: the Chiefs just aren't that team. And they don't they
- 45:05Speaker 5: don't lose any coordinators. Like, it's just all there. So
- 45:08Speaker 5: the boring bet I know, but Chiefs one of the
- 45:11Speaker 5: Super Bowl. That's where I'm going.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Chad, all right, it's so fun to go back and
- 45:16Speaker 1: listen to that because you were spot on about so
- 45:19Speaker 1: many things, not just the Chiefs like and their opportunity,
- 45:23Speaker 1: but the way you nailed the Eagles after they had
- 45:26Speaker 1: come off a down year, talking about the Rams having
- 45:28Speaker 1: to go to Philly being off the Niners.
- 45:31Speaker 2: Brilliant, brilliant stuff. We've all seen your ticket.
- 45:34Speaker 1: We know it is a significant, significant amount of money.
- 45:37Speaker 1: And that's just one ticket you have. I know you've
- 45:41Speaker 1: got several on this particular matchup.
- 45:44Speaker 2: Chiefs beating the Eagles.
- 45:47Speaker 1: A couple of our listeners sent me notes. I'm going
- 45:51Speaker 1: to read the excerpts of one because it is representative
- 45:54Speaker 1: of everything I'm currently sitting on a Super Bowl futures
- 45:56Speaker 1: Chiefs beating Eagles and Eagles beating Chiefs. Each one unit
- 46:00Speaker 1: bets Chiefs win, pays out fifty six units. As you noted, Simon,
- 46:05Speaker 1: we headed at fifty five to one, Eagles pays out
- 46:08Speaker 1: sixty seven. Book is offering a cash out of twenty
- 46:12Speaker 1: point five units. I've thought about letting the Eagles game
- 46:16Speaker 1: ride and if they win, betting twenty eight units on
- 46:19Speaker 1: the bills to cover. Also have considered cashing. What strategies
- 46:24Speaker 1: would you guys consider? So basically that covers everything, right,
- 46:27Speaker 1: That covers a cash out. You and I and Evan
- 46:29Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this on Tuesday after the show,
- 46:33Speaker 1: talking about waiting to see what happens in the first
- 46:35Speaker 1: game and if the Eagles win, hedging the second game,
- 46:39Speaker 1: how will you be handling any hedging this weekend?
- 46:44Speaker 5: Yeah, so off the top, everyone should know every person
- 46:47Speaker 5: is unique and as their own life going on with
- 46:50Speaker 5: your own shit going on, your own life, and you
- 46:51Speaker 5: need to plan accordingly with these type of bets. If
- 46:54Speaker 5: you are in that position that you need this fucking money.
- 46:57Speaker 5: If you need this money, cash it out. Go ahead,
- 47:00Speaker 5: who cares cash it out? Take that money you can.
- 47:03Speaker 5: You made a great bet. The books are begging you
- 47:05Speaker 5: to take their money because they are terrified that you're
- 47:08Speaker 5: going to hit this bet and they don't want to
- 47:10Speaker 5: pay it out. So if you do need the money,
- 47:12Speaker 5: cash it out. If you're building a bank roll and
- 47:15Speaker 5: you don't have any money to hedge it.
- 47:16Speaker 3: You're in that type of spot, cash it out. There's
- 47:18Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. Now, someone like me, there is
- 47:22Speaker 3: no reason to cash out. Like I'm of course gonna
- 47:24Speaker 3: let this ride.
- 47:25Speaker 5: And it's from the perspective of it's a bet I trusted,
- 47:29Speaker 5: and it basically came all to exactly what I predicted.
- 47:32Speaker 5: These two teams would be at home in this position
- 47:34Speaker 5: to win. The math is telling you this is a
- 47:36Speaker 5: good spot to be in, and I'm going to a
- 47:39Speaker 5: unique spot where I really only bet on these two
- 47:42Speaker 5: teams for Super Bowl futures like I had. I think
- 47:46Speaker 5: I had two different bets on the Rams from when
- 47:48Speaker 5: I thought it was really stupid, but I basically thought
- 47:51Speaker 5: they were open up cap space to have a big signing.
- 47:54Speaker 5: They were actually paying out Aaron Donald to retire, So
- 47:56Speaker 5: that was a futures bet I did make on the Rams.
- 47:59Speaker 5: But other than that, my two heaviest bets for what
- 48:01Speaker 5: people just are in the clip where basically the Chiefs
- 48:03Speaker 5: and the Eagles. And now I'm in the spot where
- 48:06Speaker 5: could I hedge on the Commanders. Yes, I think Commanders
- 48:08Speaker 5: right now are plus seven hundred to make the Super Bowl.
- 48:11Speaker 5: But I wouldn't do that, especially if you're anyone.
- 48:13Speaker 3: Else out there. This is not the spot to hedge.
- 48:15Speaker 5: I think this guy talking about head you in the
- 48:17Speaker 5: next game, that's the spot. Like, if you want to
- 48:19Speaker 5: take a position to hedge out, do that on the Bills.
- 48:22Speaker 5: You can either do it on their Super Bowl future.
- 48:25Speaker 5: You can either do it taking their number.
- 48:28Speaker 3: You could. I mean, if you're going really balls, you
- 48:30Speaker 3: throw them in a seven and a half up to
- 48:31Speaker 3: seven and a half, put them with the Eagles.
- 48:33Speaker 5: Take the Eagles down to a pick because again it's
- 48:35Speaker 5: historical ve Eagles don't win in this spot. It's it's
- 48:37Speaker 5: a really good spot to be playing a rookie at home.
- 48:40Speaker 5: So there's a bunch of different ways you're going to
- 48:42Speaker 5: approach it. I honestly think if you're able to people,
- 48:46Speaker 5: I'd let a ride like you made a great bet.
- 48:50Speaker 5: That's why the books are trying to give you a
- 48:51Speaker 5: cash out, Like I'd never cash out, because if the
- 48:53Speaker 5: books are offering you a cash out one, they're gonna
- 48:56Speaker 5: under they're goning to give you a bad price. They're
- 48:58Speaker 5: not going to pay you out with a should be
- 49:00Speaker 5: paying you. And it also just shows that they're terrified
- 49:02Speaker 5: because they don't want to cash out people like that
- 49:05Speaker 5: is not the business they're in. They're in the business
- 49:07Speaker 5: of taking your money. So the factor even giving you
- 49:10Speaker 5: that big of an option shows how terrified they are.
- 49:12Speaker 5: So yeah, I would pat myself on the back people
- 49:15Speaker 5: out there, if you had the balls to take it.
- 49:17Speaker 5: In August, I have fifty five to one or fifty
- 49:18Speaker 5: to one, and I'd let it ride. But if you
- 49:20Speaker 5: want to take a position hedge out of it, I
- 49:22Speaker 5: wouldn't do on the Eagles game.
- 49:24Speaker 3: I would do on the Bills game.
- 49:24Speaker 5: Because to me, that's that's the game that's truly a
- 49:27Speaker 5: coin flip, that Bills game, like none of us will
- 49:29Speaker 5: be shocked Sunday night if the Bills fell off that.
- 49:32Speaker 2: Upset Simon Hunter, professional coward.
- 49:36Speaker 5: I would be shocked if the Commanders put it off.
- 49:38Speaker 5: So to me, that's where the value is right now
- 49:41Speaker 5: if you're trying to hedge it, and obviously if it
- 49:43Speaker 5: gets to the Super Bowl, even more even easier to
- 49:46Speaker 5: take a position. You just basically will put half the
- 49:48Speaker 5: money on the Eagles because they will be an underdog either.
- 49:52Speaker 5: I don't know if this is true, but from my lines,
- 49:54Speaker 5: I do have the Eagles an underdog to the Chiefs
- 49:56Speaker 5: or the Bills. I'm positive the books will follow suit
- 49:59Speaker 5: like they're just that's just the way it usually is.
- 50:01Speaker 5: Usually AFC is going to get the respect in this
- 50:03Speaker 5: type of spot. So yeah, if you do want to
- 50:06Speaker 5: be patient, I think you'll get a nice opportunity in
- 50:08Speaker 5: the super Bowl. But yeah, chat film film pretty good.
- 50:11Speaker 5: I basically have somewhere around five K invested in the
- 50:15Speaker 5: Chiefs to beat the Eagles to win three orndred k.
- 50:17Speaker 5: And obviously people know I'm an Eagles fan. I have
- 50:19Speaker 5: a ton of money invested in the egos super Bowl future.
- 50:22Speaker 5: So yeah, no bets, I've sent the Commanders. No one
- 50:26Speaker 5: saw this coming, and I was I talked about coming
- 50:28Speaker 5: to the year. I did doubt the Bills did not
- 50:30Speaker 5: see this type of run happening, So have no money invested,
- 50:33Speaker 5: and I wouldn't need to hedge out if I had
- 50:35Speaker 5: to in that game against the Chiefs. But like I
- 50:38Speaker 5: just said, I'm gonna let it ride. I'm coffing in
- 50:39Speaker 5: our position and I love our bets right now.
- 50:41Speaker 1: So if you want to let if you want to
- 50:43Speaker 1: hedge in that second game, if you've got the Eagles
- 50:45Speaker 1: and the Eagles make it, and you want to hedge
- 50:47Speaker 1: on the on the Bills in that second game in
- 50:49Speaker 1: a matchup because you have the Chiefs against the Eagles
- 50:52Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Evan is also really good at
- 50:54Speaker 1: this stuff, So maybe when we can bring them in
- 50:56Speaker 1: in a second, I'm going to ask them his opinion too.
- 50:59Speaker 1: What's your normal hedging strategy? Do you bet half a
- 51:02Speaker 1: unit on the team so you can recover, you know,
- 51:05Speaker 1: half of the winnings that you would have otherwise had.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Even if you bet half a unit, you're still going
- 51:10Speaker 1: to be way ahead on whatever you put in for
- 51:13Speaker 1: the futures. Most people aren't putting in a full unit
- 51:17Speaker 1: when they're betting on huge futures at long odds. So
- 51:21Speaker 1: what would you as an amount tend to bet if
- 51:25Speaker 1: you were to hedge in this second game.
- 51:29Speaker 5: Once again, it's tough because it's about your confident level.
- 51:31Speaker 5: I mean, you have a fifty five to one ticket,
- 51:33Speaker 5: so I would view it as a minimum five to
- 51:38Speaker 5: eight units on the bills, like you want, you want
- 51:40Speaker 5: to make some good money here, and even if that
- 51:42Speaker 5: doesn't hit, you still leave yourself a huge ticket.
- 51:44Speaker 3: For that Super Bowl future. So it all depends your position.
- 51:47Speaker 5: Like I said, if if if you do just want
- 51:49Speaker 5: to recoup your your losses, you could do what you'd
- 51:52Speaker 5: just talked about. You could just put one unit on it,
- 51:54Speaker 5: like play it safe because you are confident, but you
- 51:56Speaker 5: want to make sure you least get that money back
- 51:58Speaker 5: to you invested the way back in August. But to me,
- 52:01Speaker 5: I'm all about turning profits. So at minimum, I would
- 52:03Speaker 5: say two to three units on the bills because you
- 52:06Speaker 5: want to make some money on which is a great play.
- 52:08Speaker 3: It's like you deserve that reward. You deserve to get
- 52:10Speaker 3: a nice kickback for that.
- 52:12Speaker 5: And that's why I'm saying with people that don't have
- 52:13Speaker 5: that that type of money put down or they're not
- 52:15Speaker 5: confident it hit that cash out button, like you're getting
- 52:18Speaker 5: paid out a nice a nice penny here for a
- 52:21Speaker 5: bet you made. So there's just so many ways you
- 52:24Speaker 5: can attack it. But yeah, for me personally, I want
- 52:26Speaker 5: to I want to get some money back that I
- 52:28Speaker 5: made good, good bet on, So I would definitely go
- 52:31Speaker 5: three to four five units on it, just so I
- 52:34Speaker 5: can get a nice hit with even if I do
- 52:36Speaker 5: lose that bet, And like we've done before, you can
- 52:38Speaker 5: find a middle That's why you know, it sucks that
- 52:41Speaker 5: it's dropped back down from two, but if this got
- 52:43Speaker 5: up to two and a half three, you're getting a
- 52:45Speaker 5: really nice chance to hit a middle with that Bill's number.
- 52:47Speaker 5: Which again, that's that's a position we want to be,
- 52:50Speaker 5: and we want to we want to have a middle spot.
- 52:51Speaker 3: But I think the books are wise to it. They're
- 52:53Speaker 3: not really going above that two.
- 52:54Speaker 1: Number super Bowl futures Egos plus one seventy five plus
- 53:00Speaker 1: two twenty Bills plus two thirty Commanders plus seven fifty
- 53:05Speaker 1: any worthwhile investment here. I was leaning to play in
- 53:10Speaker 1: the Chiefs at plus two twenty just because obviously we
- 53:13Speaker 1: like them to get to the super Bowl. They're not
- 53:16Speaker 1: going to have those kind of odds when they get there,
- 53:20Speaker 1: I'd probably like them.
- 53:21Speaker 2: To win the Super Bowl. So I feel like I'm
- 53:23Speaker 2: getting the best number on the Chiefs over the that
- 53:27Speaker 2: I'm going to get over the next two and a
- 53:29Speaker 2: half weeks.
- 53:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 53:31Speaker 5: So basically the way to go about this is if
- 53:35Speaker 5: you have no futures, if you're just looking for an
- 53:37Speaker 5: opinion on who we think is going to win the
- 53:38Speaker 5: Super Bowl.
- 53:38Speaker 3: I think me and Chat are both in agreeans we
- 53:40Speaker 3: think it's gonna be the Chiefs. Like it just it
- 53:42Speaker 3: fills lined up for them.
- 53:43Speaker 5: They have the perfect team put together right now, the
- 53:45Speaker 5: way they play, even if it is the Eagles of Commanders,
- 53:48Speaker 5: I think they match up well against both of them.
- 53:50Speaker 3: And you know you can shop around right now.
- 53:53Speaker 5: Are there are a couple of plus two thirties, a
- 53:54Speaker 5: couple plus two twenties out there on them to win
- 53:57Speaker 5: the Super Bowl at this point, the Chiefs, it's basically
- 54:00Speaker 5: you get in a line with their money line as
- 54:01Speaker 5: if they were a four to four and a half
- 54:03Speaker 5: point dog. So that to me is great value on
- 54:05Speaker 5: the Bills and the Chiefs. Like, if you like the
- 54:07Speaker 5: AFC side, you're getting great value because I just told
- 54:10Speaker 5: you my model has the Eagles as the dog against
- 54:14Speaker 5: the Bills and the Chiefs. So in my view of it,
- 54:16Speaker 5: if you're trying to play that type of number two
- 54:19Speaker 5: to one on the Chiefs or the Bills against the Eagles,
- 54:22Speaker 5: that's really really nice future to get. So that's one
- 54:27Speaker 5: way to play it. But like I said, I'm already
- 54:28Speaker 5: having invested, so I'm not doing anything. But in my opinion,
- 54:30Speaker 5: I think there's still value on this Chiefs team, Like
- 54:33Speaker 5: you know, you're getting them as as if they're a
- 54:35Speaker 5: four and a half dog against the Eagles, where we
- 54:37Speaker 5: know they're most likely going to be a favorite. So
- 54:39Speaker 5: to me, that's where my eyes go. Right I saw
- 54:42Speaker 5: that number, I was like, oh my god, it's above
- 54:44Speaker 5: two hundred and again it's just because the Bills and
- 54:46Speaker 5: the Chiefs are playing each other, but still that's tremendous
- 54:49Speaker 5: value against an Eagles team that you know, we all
- 54:51Speaker 5: know they're just the favorite just because it's it's more
- 54:54Speaker 5: likely they get there, not because they're better than the
- 54:56Speaker 5: Bills of the Chiefs. So that that to me, is
- 54:58Speaker 5: a horrible number to bet. If you're taking Eagles, the
- 55:00Speaker 5: way to go is either take the Chiefs or the Bills.
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- 56:18Speaker 1: I know the answer to this Simon's biggest bets.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Chiefs, chiefs, chiefs, God.
- 56:26Speaker 4: Damn it, God, damn it, damn it.
- 56:30Speaker 2: Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, am I right.
- 56:34Speaker 5: Yeah, And I love the tolls too on the on
- 56:36Speaker 5: the Eagles over. On the Chiefs under, I believe Chiefs
- 56:40Speaker 5: are Chiefs under is still forty seven and a half.
- 56:43Speaker 5: Still like the value there still tick that under and
- 56:46Speaker 5: the Eagles over. I could see it moving as they
- 56:48Speaker 5: get closer to the game. Right now, it's still forty
- 56:50Speaker 5: seven and a half. I could usually see that get
- 56:51Speaker 5: up to forty eighty forty eight and a half, which
- 56:53Speaker 5: that's where I.
- 56:53Speaker 3: Got to model that. I think there's still value on
- 56:55Speaker 3: the over.
- 56:56Speaker 5: And you know, my view of it is what me
- 56:58Speaker 5: and Chat kind of talked about there, where you know,
- 57:00Speaker 5: Eagles are a big play offense, and there's a high
- 57:03Speaker 5: variance right now.
- 57:04Speaker 3: On this Commanders team.
- 57:05Speaker 5: Them going for a fourth down and I just don't
- 57:07Speaker 5: see many many threes being kicked in this game. Even
- 57:10Speaker 5: the Eagles don't really trust their kicker right now. So
- 57:12Speaker 5: it feels like Washington Eagles easily get turned into a
- 57:15Speaker 5: shootout and that Chief spills game. Both sides wanted to
- 57:18Speaker 5: be born, wanted to take long, slow drives, and it's
- 57:22Speaker 5: it's basically bumped up just because of the names, right
- 57:25Speaker 5: it's the Mahomes versus Allen. We're getting probably two to
- 57:28Speaker 5: three free points because people are still living in twenty
- 57:30Speaker 5: twenty two, twenty twenty one, Like, these are not those
- 57:33Speaker 5: same teams, and it's it's not winning football. We've seen
- 57:37Speaker 5: that the NFL is shifted now where it's the.
- 57:40Speaker 3: Three the three.
- 57:40Speaker 5: I mean you can even say commanders, Like the four
- 57:42Speaker 5: best teams left all go for the moors the most
- 57:46Speaker 5: and most successfully are fourth down and they all have good,
- 57:49Speaker 5: strong run games. So we've definitely seen a shift chat
- 57:52Speaker 5: in the NFL, and that plays into this chief Spills game.
- 57:55Speaker 5: I just I like that under there. So yeah, both
- 57:57Speaker 5: favorites and then an over and under pretty pretty So.
- 58:02Speaker 2: When all hope is lost, all this left is relief.
- 58:06Speaker 4: Let's play Scoots Roulette.
- 58:10Speaker 2: Scoot Roulette.
- 58:11Speaker 1: Last week you had Buffalo, I had Baltimore. I feel
- 58:15Speaker 1: like we're gonna end up on the same teams this week.
- 58:18Speaker 5: Nah, well you can go first, you pick, I'll go,
- 58:21Speaker 5: and I'll go a different team.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Well I want the Chiefs, Yeah, I'll go Eagles.
- 58:24Speaker 3: Then all right, hey, ain't nobody trying to hit that bullshit?
- 58:29Speaker 4: All right?
- 58:29Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, let's welcome in our
- 58:31Speaker 1: direct You're so magnanimous, you're feeling so good this week.
- 58:34Speaker 1: You're unlike Matt Mitchell, who's like says he's free and
- 58:37Speaker 1: happy and you know, just joy, unhinged, dancing like no
- 58:42Speaker 1: one's watching. And yet we're seeing him comes in seven
- 58:46Speaker 1: years of knowing him.
- 58:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen him this unhinged.
- 58:50Speaker 4: Go outside, ner, get out, go. I ain't got time
- 58:55Speaker 4: to be distracted by your worthless chime. Man's gone. You
- 58:57Speaker 4: better tell this some much to walk the fuck out. Now?
- 59:00Speaker 4: Are we done for the day.
- 59:03Speaker 2: We get out of here.
- 59:04Speaker 1: Let's welcome in our director of research, Evan Abrams, for
- 59:08Speaker 1: the final word. Tell me something, Evan, make me feel good.
- 59:11Speaker 2: The last word with Evan Abrams, we're finished talking.
- 59:16Speaker 4: To be fair for people who've known Matt Mitchell for
- 59:19Speaker 4: as long as you and I have, I mean, this
- 59:21Speaker 4: is the closest he's ever been to the Promised Land,
- 59:23Speaker 4: Like this is actually the closest, like thirteen seconds and
- 59:26Speaker 4: the whole thing. Yeah, this is the Bills team that
- 59:29Speaker 4: isn't turning it over, it's playing say football, it's doing
- 59:32Speaker 4: exactly what they need to do to get there. So
- 59:34Speaker 4: I think he's unhinged because he's never been this nervous
- 59:36Speaker 4: in his life.
- 59:38Speaker 1: I'd like to see on Sunday night if they just
- 59:41Speaker 1: lose regular correct how he's feeling when we got to
- 59:45Speaker 1: record the podcast. Yeah, he barely made it onto the
- 59:48Speaker 1: show last Sunday.
- 59:50Speaker 4: I mean, he's not showing up the place, and then
- 59:52Speaker 4: he's showing up early and screaming and everyone. It's been
- 59:55Speaker 4: wonderful to answer some of your questions from earlier. There
- 59:59Speaker 4: are hypoth medical lines out for the Super Bowl right now.
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: So yeah, like Casey and Buffalo about four and a
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: half point favorites over Washington in both situations, and Casey
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: Buffalo both about one and a half favorites over Philly's
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: at this point. The interesting thing about those look aheadlines
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: Buffalo Washington total is fifty three and a half, which
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: is fun. Everything else is kind of in order. All so,
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: I'll give you a few stats for some of these games.
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: You guys had talked about the Chiefs and some of
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: the advantages they have. Well they have another advantage. If
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: you watch the games last weekend. They played the first
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: game of the weekend, they played on Saturday, weill Buffalo
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: played the last game of the weekend. So Chiefs actually
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: do have a full day rest and prep advantage against
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: Buffalo in this one. So Andy Reid in his career
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: forty five and twelve straight up Chiefs and Eagles when
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: coaching a game on extended prep time more than a
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: full week while his opponent is on normal or less.
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: When that game is at home, He's thirty one and
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: seven with Mahomes. Reid is twenty and three in that spot,
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: fourteen and one at home with the rest advantage. So
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: let's talk about the other thing I was gonna mention,
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: is this Casey's bet percentage Now, depending on the book
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: at action, we do like a consensus percentage right now,
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: it's in about the low thirties, which would be one
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: of the lowest of his careers. So Buffalo definitely getting
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: some love in this game. And let's turn our attention
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: now to Washington and Philly. So, yeah, Washington is a
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: six point underdog, but they feel like a bit of
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: a different six point underdog, and especially this year because
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: of their scoring. They are averaging twenty nine point one
- 1:01:32Speaker 4: points per game including the playoffs since the merger. Only
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen Packers behind Aaron Rodgers averaged
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: twenty nine points per game or more. And we're this
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: high of an underdog. In the Conference championship. They closed
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: plus eight and a half against Seattle. In that game
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: they actually led nineteen seven, lost twenty eight to twenty two.
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: They did cover the spread, it means very little. I
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: think the thing I'm trying to prove here is that
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: Washington is kind of an enigma, honestly a team from
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: a scoring point of view, from the fact that they
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: have a rookie head coach, you know, a new one
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: for Washington, and an actual rookie quarterback. So I just
- 1:02:09Speaker 4: think they're a little bit messing with the models because
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: of their offense. And then I'll give you this last
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: note pure from bet Labs. But Commanders had no playoff experience,
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: didn't make it last year, while the Eagles they've got
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: a decent amount of playoff experience being to the Super Bowl.
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: Obviously they were there last year. So teams who didn't
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: make the playoffs the year prior are seven to ten
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: against the spread versus a team who did. In the
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: conference championship dating back to two thousand and four, when
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: the spread is over a field goal. They are one
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: to nine straight up and four and six against the spread. Now,
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: the one upset Joe Burrow and the Bengals over the
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: Chiefs in twenty twenty two that took Mahomes home and
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: took them to the super Bowl. So the numbers aren't
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: fantastic for Daniels, But who the heck cares at this point.
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: I mean, he's won twice as underdogs and now he's
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: an underdog again. That's only happened once where you've won
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: all three games in the playoffs as an underdog to
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: get to the super Bowl two thousand and eight Giants.
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: So we will see what type of history Washington makes
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: on Sunday.
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: My favorite Daniels stat is in nine season Dak Prescott
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: two playoff wins, Jane Daniels one season two playoff wins.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: I love the troll.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: Well, look, it's very possible he's just a cheat code
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: that can really be accounted for.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're having all these conversations about it, and
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: in the end of the days, he's Mahomes asking what
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: he can do on the field that you have to
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: discount every other element of the game. What was that
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: stat that Andy Reid with Patrick Mahomes is twenty and
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: three straight up with an extra day of rest.
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: It's just a rest advantage. Yes, so when they have
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: eight or more so, like more than a full week,
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: and the opponent is normal or less, so seven or
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: less twenty and three with Mahomes fourteen and one. At home.
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: When I say fourteen and one, though I in my
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: brain am saying to myself, who is the loss? I
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: honestly can't remember, but I have to look it up.
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: It's gonna be the Raiders something.
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: It's either it's always Raiders or Tom Brady, which is
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: now the same thing. So which is funny?
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: That is funny? Thank you Evan.
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