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"Catfishing" (Friday, January 23, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: Hundred to do list. Putting the radio on is the
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Speaker 1: first thing today.
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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be a part of it.
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Speaker 3: George said, steal me have a day at least for work.
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Speaker 4: When the sun comes up, drops a kid to scoop
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Speaker 4: the way Joe has everything, all the treasures.
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Speaker 1: No one that Joe's allies smiled, He all the eggs.
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Speaker 5: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to
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Speaker 5: you this morning.
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Speaker 6: I want to be.
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Speaker 5: We tell you what went on last night, and then
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Speaker 5: we will give you our analysis of it. But mostly
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Speaker 5: I want to find out how it's impacting you where
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Speaker 5: you are peace? Bored this text message? And I'm not
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Speaker 5: bored of piece Joe. I'm bored of winning.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know.
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Speaker 5: And that becomes the question. An email from Marie says,
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Speaker 5: if the president gets peace in Iran and the Middle East,
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Speaker 5: what is the press going to focus on? To me, Marie,
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Speaker 5: the press will focus on how it's not working out
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Speaker 5: the way the president promised. The President lied. There are
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Speaker 5: two narratives that every newsroom has to watch their stories through.
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Speaker 5: Can we make the case that the president lied or
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Speaker 5: the President is creating chaos? And all news in all
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Speaker 5: these news networks have to go through those filters. Can
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Speaker 5: the story be used as evidence or precedent as in
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Speaker 5: the case of the Steel dossier. Remember, it was news
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Speaker 5: that was fed by James Comy that became the investigation
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Speaker 5: into the Trump presidency from the get go, in order
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Speaker 5: to establish the appearance that untoward things were going on there.
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Speaker 5: And every time it happens. And this is where you
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Speaker 5: have to make sure your friends, who you know, maybe
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Speaker 5: going on. They're getting the classic Donald Trump puts ten
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Speaker 5: work because of artificial intelligence. But before we can discuss,
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Speaker 5: we must tell you the first things. Today, President Trump
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Speaker 5: unveiled the Peace Board in Davos. This is the global
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Speaker 5: initiative to help rebuild Gaza. Marco Rubio and other envoy
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Speaker 5: to the Peace Board, along with leaders of Bahrain and Morocco,
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Speaker 5: signed on seventeen other countries so far are part of it.
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Speaker 5: The United Kingdom has declined the President's invitation, saying that
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Speaker 5: the involvement of Russia can't be allowed for anything they
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Speaker 5: would be involved in, and Canada had their invitation rescinded
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Speaker 5: by the President after comments made by Prime Minister Carney.
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Speaker 5: Former Special Council you don't know, Jack Smith was in
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Speaker 5: front of lawmakers yesterday, grilled by the House Judiciary Committee
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Speaker 5: on the role of confidential informants and more on January
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Speaker 5: sixth of twenty twenty one. I am not a politician,
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Speaker 5: Smith said, and I have no partisan loyalty. My career
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Speaker 5: a carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln steaming to the Middle East.
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Speaker 5: While the President sits his Board of Peace, peace must
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Speaker 5: States sent three several destroyers, plus the aircraft carrier and
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Speaker 5: a bunch of fighting aircraft into the region. Will be
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Speaker 5: there tomorrow. House Republicans defeated a resolution Thursday that would
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Speaker 5: have barred President Trump from using military action in Venezuela
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Speaker 1: Amaze your friends here in the First Thing Today by
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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas.
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Speaker 5: way federally as well. But one of the things Bob
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Speaker 5: and I brought up real quick was this idea of
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Speaker 5: this narrative that somehow Virginians and the nation at large
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Speaker 5: is being catfished by Abigail Spanberger when everyone said, oh,
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Speaker 5: look at the moderate. This is a Democrat that Republicans
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Speaker 5: can vote for. And the first thing she does is
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Speaker 5: establish a sanctuary state in Virginia. And then they start
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Speaker 5: passing proposals out that would have you taxing everything from well,
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Speaker 5: I think at some point they'll tax your tax payments.
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Speaker 5: They are under the sales tax premises and then you know,
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Speaker 5: you go from there to abortion and how they're selling it.
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Speaker 5: Tom Garrett is in the middle of all of this.
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Speaker 5: We never got to chat on Monday when we were
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Speaker 5: using his office as our studios, so I thought I'd
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Speaker 5: quid for his pro quoa.
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Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Joe, you were in my office
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Speaker 4: on Monday.
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Speaker 5: Oops, don't ask Jenny about that. But anyway, regardless, you
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Speaker 5: and I talked about this during the bill up to
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Speaker 5: the Virginia gubernatorial election, and I think, and I may
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Speaker 5: be seeing too much insidiousness in this, but there are
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Speaker 5: precedents being set in Virginia or that rather than running
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Speaker 5: for president, she wants to change the landscape of America
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Speaker 5: by establishing beachheads in these bills, in these taxation policies,
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Speaker 5: in these voting policies that are going to then get
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Speaker 5: trundled off to Kansas and Oklahoma and Colorado and places
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Speaker 5: that you'd think are blue states anyway, but aren't nearly
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Speaker 5: as blue as ab Span and the rest of the
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Speaker 5: Virginia Democrats are taking it. Am I paranoid?
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Speaker 4: Do I have some sort of man Abigail can walk
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Speaker 4: and shoe gum at the same time, she could fundamentally
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Speaker 4: transform America and run for president. Yeah, it's uh, I've
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Speaker 4: never I've been around at a little bit. And by
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Speaker 4: the way, I would encourage people to look for Tom
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Speaker 4: Garrett for delegate or Delegate Tom Garrett on Facebook and
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Speaker 4: follow that because I promise I'll entertain you. I don't
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Speaker 4: care what state you're in. I will make you smile.
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Speaker 4: This is we had a bill. You may I cover this.
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Speaker 4: Jessica Anderson, who was previously most noteworthy for filming herself
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Speaker 4: peeing in the woods and you can google that. I
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Speaker 4: am not making it up, replaced a common sense conservative
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Speaker 4: in Amandi battan last wave election, and she has a
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Speaker 4: bill that would make it illegal to investigate whether people
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Speaker 4: receiving benefit money from you are doing so illegally.
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Speaker 5: I did not gee hold it. I think, oh gosh,
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Speaker 5: there's a story.
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Speaker 4: I think she picked off that they found the Leering Center.
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Speaker 4: I think that this is upset her. So she's written
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Speaker 4: a bill that would make it illegal to investigate such
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Speaker 4: that you never find the leering Center. And Joe, I'm
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Speaker 4: not joking. Now, this isn't tongue in she there's a
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Speaker 4: theory on the radical left that in order to fill
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Speaker 4: a vacuum, you must first create a vacuum, and that
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Speaker 4: you have to collapse the system. And the only way
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Speaker 4: this bill makes sense is if she is trying to
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Speaker 4: destroy America through ensuring that people receive entitlements from the
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Speaker 4: working class that they're not entitled to. That's the only
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Speaker 4: way this makes sense.
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, and I may be wrong to call
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Speaker 5: out the hypocrisy, but they seem to want to investigate
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Speaker 5: every time Donald Trump goes to the men's room, and
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Speaker 5: did he, you know, break the emolument's clause by tipping
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Speaker 5: the bathroom attendant? So which is it?
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Speaker 4: Do they never want to investigate hotel and he used
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Speaker 4: if it's at his own hotel and he used money
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Speaker 4: that he received in his salary as president, they would
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Speaker 4: argue that he did.
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Speaker 5: But I'm saying, is this willfully hypocritical or do they
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Speaker 5: want us to just believe that as long as it's
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Speaker 5: not Donald Trump, whoever is in charge of government, should
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Speaker 5: should never be questioned about what they're doing with taxpayer money.
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Speaker 4: Well, you should never question them, And the reason is
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Speaker 4: that they know everything and you're a rube who knows nothing. Right,
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Speaker 4: that's the fundamental premise is a stunning lack of self awareness.
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Speaker 4: I mean that again, I'm not trying to be funny,
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Speaker 4: a stunning lack of self awareness. The first thing that
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Speaker 4: you need to realize, Joe, Tom, the guy you're talking
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Speaker 4: to listener, is that sometimes you are wrong. And so
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Speaker 4: when you acknowledge that sometimes you're wrong, then you will
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Speaker 4: listen to other people and then you may become right
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Speaker 4: in those things in which you're wrong. Now you and
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Speaker 4: I both know that you and I are each wrong
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Speaker 4: once a year right, but they are never wrong. You
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Speaker 4: are always wrong, and they will use any piece of power.
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Speaker 4: I had someone the other day because I spoke in
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Speaker 4: my church in supportive life, say good, Now we know
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Speaker 4: what church to send the irs to when next we
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Speaker 4: have the reins of power with a straight face. Now,
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Speaker 4: if you look into a church is right to advocate
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Speaker 4: on issues, not going to support specific candidates, but to
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Speaker 4: advocate on issues, then this person's not only a draconian,
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Speaker 4: jack booted thug, but they're also ignorant of the actual law. Right.
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Speaker 4: But that's who we're dealing with. And the problem is
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Speaker 4: this petulance that comes from a society where we never
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Speaker 4: tell our children no, Hey, mommy, I think I'm a girl. No,
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Speaker 4: because we can't do that. No, you have to affirm
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Speaker 4: your stupidity. And this is what it's manifests itself in
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Speaker 4: that Virginia is now a parody of the film Idiocracy.
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Speaker 5: I think we're actually a step towards it. But that's
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Speaker 5: what I mean is that I think everything that they
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Speaker 5: can do here in Virginia is about to be boxed
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Speaker 5: up and exported out to every red state they can
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Speaker 5: find and every teetering purple state they can find, saying listen,
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Speaker 5: this is what it's got to look like. This is
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Speaker 5: how you do it. They're going to create a template
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Speaker 5: and states across Nevada and Texas. They'll bring it to Texas,
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Speaker 5: they'll take it to Florida and try to get all
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Speaker 5: those grannies from New York to come out of the
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Speaker 5: woodwork and start voting for them again the way they
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Speaker 5: used to up till two thousand.
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Speaker 4: It only works when two things happen. When one of
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Speaker 4: two things happen, either they hijack democracy altogether and don't
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Speaker 4: accurately count votes, or the majority of the electorate becomes
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Speaker 4: so addicted to the problem and unflinchingly, unquestionably loyal to
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Speaker 4: sort of the dicta of the day that they follow
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Speaker 4: without question. Right, this is what scares me. I'll digress
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Speaker 4: for a moment about AI. Right, the most important question
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Speaker 4: is always the second question, the subsequent question where, why? When? Hell?
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Speaker 4: Then I'll give you an example too that you've heard
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Speaker 4: me make before. Should everyone have access to affordable healthcare?
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Speaker 4: Because yes, all right, then we're done if you don't
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Speaker 4: ask who's paying forward? What the definition of health care is?
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Speaker 4: Define access? Who is everyone as citizens? Is it non citizens?
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Speaker 4: But you've got this sort of lemming class who empowers
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Speaker 4: the point? He had geniuses from the from the academic
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Speaker 4: academic uh uh stat towers in the northeast.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, who who?
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Speaker 4: Who? Who'll save us all? And they scare the hell
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Speaker 4: out of it.
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Speaker 5: Well, but here's the thing about those questions, and I
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Speaker 5: kind of watched it, and I feel bad because some
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Speaker 5: of your contemporaries in the in the house, like Jim Jordan,
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Speaker 5: you know, in in exchange for a gotcha moment of
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Speaker 5: saying so tell us about this confidential informant never drilled
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Speaker 5: down on Jack Smith saying what were you using this
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Speaker 5: confidential informant for why were you paying them to watch video?
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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Speaker 5: Don't you have interns for that? Don't you have power
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Speaker 5: legals for that? And that's the stuff that I think
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Speaker 5: frustrates a lot of Americans, conservative Americans, is that we're
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Speaker 5: we're so interested in getting the ten second video clip
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Speaker 1: We couldn't tell you what six seven needs? Where's the funding?
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Speaker 1: That first thing?
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Speaker 5: Today?
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Speaker 1: By Joe Thomas on the Tunk Media Network.
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Speaker 21: Would he be able to go in the long.
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Speaker 12: Thanks out there, Toggland, Thanks the Crown, Thanks thanks.
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Speaker 5: You don't know Jack Smith, so I mentioned the interaction
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Speaker 5: you don't know Jack Smith and Congressman Ben Klark Smith.
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Speaker 26: You've said several times in your deposition that you believe
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Speaker 26: that the facts and the law, your interpretation of the law,
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Speaker 26: would lead to a conviction of President Trump.
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Speaker 4: Is that correct? Yes?
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Speaker 26: And did you believe that same thing, that your interpretation
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Speaker 26: of the law, your reading of the law, would have
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Speaker 26: resulted in the conviction when you went after Virginia Governor
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Speaker 26: Bob McDonnell back in twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 5: Did you believe it at the time.
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Speaker 26: I did believe, and ultimately you got a conviction in
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Speaker 26: lower court, but that was overturned by the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, the Supreme Court changed the law on what
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Speaker 5: constituted an official act and actually think that conviction was overturned.
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Speaker 4: That's incorrect.
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Speaker 26: They applied the law and they said in their ruling,
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Speaker 26: our concern is not with tawd retails of Ferrari's rolexes
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Speaker 26: and ball gowns. It's instead with the broader legal implications
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Speaker 26: of the government's boundless interpretation of the federal bribery Statute.
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Speaker 26: A more limited interpretation of the term official act leaves
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Speaker 26: ample room for prosecuting corruption while comporting with the text
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Speaker 26: of the statute and the President of this Court.
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Speaker 5: Now the phrase legal official action goes into this. Fellow
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Speaker 5: Johnny Williams who figured out a way to make a
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Speaker 5: diet pill out of tobacco in a state that was
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Speaker 5: crippled because their tobacco industry had been killed. You know,
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Speaker 5: you bought some watches and stuff, but never had an
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Speaker 5: official act done for him by the governor or the
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Speaker 5: first Lady Bob Good on with us Good for America podcast. Bob,
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Speaker 5: thank you for hanging on about the Let me ask you,
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Speaker 5: Bob about the about this peace board. You know you've
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Speaker 5: been and you've you've been a supporter of Israel and
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Speaker 5: wanting their sovereignty protected. Do you see hopeful signs he
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Speaker 5: sat his peace board yesterday. Have you been hearing anything
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Speaker 5: about what what our role is going to be in
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Speaker 5: this peace board and how it's going to function?
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't.
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Speaker 27: I don't think we know enough to have a good
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Speaker 27: handle on it yet. Time will tell obvious. I was
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Speaker 27: concerned months ago when the President said, Hey, we're going
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Speaker 27: to take over Gazo. We're going to own Gazo, We're
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Speaker 27: going to develop Gazo, We're going to make sure we're
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Speaker 27: going to take security responsibility for Gaza. And I thought, oh,
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Speaker 27: my goodness, if if we commit a whole bunch of
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Speaker 27: resources and a whole bunch of personnel and we make
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Speaker 27: that problem really truly our problem, we expose ourselves to
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Speaker 27: all the hazards that could come from that. That was
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Speaker 27: very concerning to me. That sort of has faded to
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Speaker 27: some degree, although there is some taint of that, or
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Speaker 27: some tinge of that, if you will, and what's being
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Speaker 27: talked about now, certainly, I guess I would say, and
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Speaker 27: I don't know how much the president's motivation is coming
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Speaker 27: from his disdain appropriate disdain for the United Nations, his
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Speaker 27: appropriate recognition of not just the useful the uselessness of
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Speaker 27: the United Nations, but also the fact that the United
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Speaker 27: Nations has become a tool of communist China essentially, and
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Speaker 27: it's anti America and and and you know, it helps
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Speaker 27: support the worst impulses of our supposed allies in Europe
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Speaker 27: and in NATO and so forth. So I think to
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Speaker 27: try to counterbalance that, it's well intended. I think to
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Speaker 27: try to bring some semblance of peace and stability and
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Speaker 27: security in Gaza is a good motivation, but I think
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Speaker 27: we need to learn more about how this is going
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Speaker 27: to function, how it's going to work. President Trump has
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Speaker 27: said that he's going to be the chair, and it's
48:31
Speaker 27: been speculated that maybe he'll stay on as the chair.
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Speaker 27: Who knows three years from now, but he might do
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Speaker 27: it for as long as he can.
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Speaker 5: See. You mentioned communists China, and I look at what's
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Speaker 5: happening in Iran, and I look at Venezuela, and I
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Speaker 5: look at Gaza, and I see all these client states
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Speaker 5: of the Chinese Communist Party. Is there a bigger you
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Speaker 5: state craft thing going on here regarding marginalizing and isolating
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Speaker 5: China from a lot of these client states that they
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Speaker 5: use as allies.
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Speaker 27: Well, that is a huge important issue, as you know,
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Speaker 27: as China has tried to not strive to but has
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Speaker 27: increased their influence around the globe through the Belton Road
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Speaker 27: Initiative and so forth, where they quote help these poor
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Speaker 27: or lesser countries with resources in exchange for you know,
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Speaker 27: them being dependent upon adherent to the will of China.
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Speaker 27: China is our growing adversary. President Trump, has rightly recognized
49:37
Speaker 27: that he did during his first term. He's really the
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Speaker 27: only president ever really to confront China and to call
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Speaker 27: China what it is. And he does go back and
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Speaker 27: forth a little bit between treating them like a friend
49:47
Speaker 27: and treating them like an adversary. But I think President
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Speaker 27: Trump's eyes are open to that effect, and I think
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Speaker 27: that's unfortunately become a necessary factor in every foreign policy decision.
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Speaker 27: Is China more so even than Russia, just because of
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Speaker 27: the growth of China and the greater resources of China
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Speaker 27: in many ways.
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Speaker 5: Last question for you, Bob good Good for America podcast,
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Speaker 5: Good for America, Todd Org shutdown last time I checked.
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Speaker 5: We're coming up on the last week or so of January.
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Speaker 5: Aren't we supposed to have a budget deal or something.
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Speaker 5: We're going to have another brainksmanship. Nobody's talking about it.
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Speaker 5: It seems, well, You're right, it's been.
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Speaker 27: Kind of blown off the news pages because of all
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Speaker 27: the foreign policy stuff going on. But there are some
50:32
Speaker 27: things you and I have talked many, many times over
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Speaker 27: the last few years. There's many there's some things worse
50:36
Speaker 27: than a shutdown, and we ought to be just as upset.
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Speaker 27: Two trillion dollar deficits and taking us to forty trillion
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Speaker 27: dollars in debt, and funding the social programs, the welfare programs,
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Speaker 27: the entitlement programs that are bankrupt in the country and
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Speaker 27: growing a culture of dependency and generational poverty and aren't working.
50:54
Speaker 27: We just continue to throw money after that. So as
50:57
Speaker 27: long as you're going to keep spending trillions of dollars
50:59
Speaker 27: in bankrupt in the country, you can attract Democrat votes
51:01
Speaker 27: and keep the government open. And so the House has
51:04
Speaker 27: finally passed all twelve bills four months late. Mind you
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Speaker 27: do September thirty. They're doing it at the end of January.
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Speaker 27: They're sending those bills to the Senate for action next week.
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Speaker 27: So I'm going to guess now. Now we'll see whether
51:15
Speaker 27: this House the Senate will pass those or not. But
51:20
Speaker 27: you got to be disappointed. Better progress on procedure, But
51:24
Speaker 27: the ultimate product is Joe Biden's COVID budget kept in
51:27
Speaker 27: place by House Republicans.
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Speaker 5: Good for America dot org. I want to get to
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Speaker 5: this from Charlie in Fairbanks, listening to us on KFAR.
51:37
Speaker 5: We were talking about corporate taxes and things like that.
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Speaker 5: Before he writes Henry George single tax, progress and poverty.
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Speaker 5: This is from the nineteenth century. Only those who commit
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Speaker 5: commercial activities subject to taxes and business rules as if
51:52
Speaker 5: in you're not in business, you don't need license. If
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Speaker 5: you haven't sold anything you grew, you don't owe taxes,
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Speaker 5: commerce cases ruin the business. Where's the default button? Charles
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Speaker 5: great and well said, you know, and it goes back
52:08
Speaker 5: into how we established that it's the government's authority, and
52:14
Speaker 5: how they can shut down your business or how they
52:16
Speaker 5: can take your property from you and me personally, I'm
52:21
Speaker 5: a fan of send me a bill. Just works for Comcast,
52:26
Speaker 5: it works for Verizon, it works for T Mobile. Just
52:30
Speaker 5: send me a bill. Divvy up all the parts of
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Speaker 5: the budget that I owe and you know, out of
52:35
Speaker 5: the three hundred million taxpayers, and I'll send you a check.
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Speaker 5: And the simplest way to do it. And that's why
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Speaker 5: they don't want to do it until tomorrow morning at
52:44
Speaker 5: six it's a Saturday morning, as the snow arrives. I
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Speaker 5: am Joe Thomas, so long and thanks for all the fish.
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