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Andrew Chapman Explains The Fast Track From School To Stock Cars · In Wheel Time Podcast

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Don Armstrong: From our dual city studios in Texas, USA, it's the award-winning In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
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Don Armstrong: Just ahead, driver Andrew Chapman competing in the ARCA race car series, plus Jeff's Motor Minute, and I'll get to review the redesigned 2027 Kia Telluride.
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SPEAKER_04: All right.
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Don Armstrong: Howdy, along with Mike Out of This World Mars.
0:26
Don Armstrong: We always need more Jeff Zeke.
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Don Armstrong: I'm Don Armstrong.
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Don Armstrong: Glad you could join us on this Saturday.
0:31
Don Armstrong: Uh it's a beautiful day.
0:33
Don Armstrong: Let's not leave out uh Chief Engineer David Ainsley.
0:36
Don Armstrong: I have not talked to him this week, really.
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Jeff Dziekan: Well, he was in he was going to some instructional institution last week.
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Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
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Jeff Dziekan: And uh maybe he had to stay after class.
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Jeff Dziekan: I don't know.
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Jeff Dziekan: I don't know either.
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Jeff Dziekan: But apparently he's he got detention, that's probably what it was.
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Don Armstrong: Probably so.
0:50
Don Armstrong: Sleeping in class.
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Jeff Dziekan: Teachers got him uh staying after class.
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Don Armstrong: All right, well, let's bring in our uh NASCAR driver, shall we?
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Don Armstrong: Andrew.
0:59
Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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Don Armstrong: Andrew uh Chapman.
1:01
Don Armstrong: Is he there, Mike?
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Mike Marrs: Yes, sir.
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Mike Marrs: Oh, there he is.
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Don Armstrong: There he is.
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Don Armstrong: Andrew! There he is.
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Don Armstrong: Boy, you made it just in time.
1:09
Don Armstrong: Yeah, sorry, you were gonna get a big spanking if you didn't make it on time.
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Don Armstrong: You know that, don't you?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, glad I made it.
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Don Armstrong: Good answer.
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Don Armstrong: I like that.
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Don Armstrong: How old are you, Andrew?
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Don Armstrong: I'm 21.
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SPEAKER_00: Newly 21.
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Don Armstrong: Say nearly, did you say?
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SPEAKER_00: No, newly 21.
1:30
Don Armstrong: Oh, newly 21.
1:31
Don Armstrong: Tell them how old you are.
1:32
Don Armstrong: Yeah, I'm 23.
1:34
Don Armstrong: Uh, so I got you beat by a couple of years.
1:37
Don Armstrong: So, Andrew, um, it's great to talk to you and thanks uh for joining us today.
1:41
Don Armstrong: So uh are you out in Pasa Get Down Dina, California?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
1:48
Don Armstrong: You are?
1:49
Don Armstrong: Okay.
1:50
Don Armstrong: Well, I didn't know right now.
1:52
Don Armstrong: Okay.
1:53
Don Armstrong: Well, I just wanted to make sure that you were still out there and that we weren't talking to Pasadena, Texas, because we have that right down the street from us here.
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Don Armstrong: So just wanted to bring that up.
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Don Armstrong: So I understand that uh you started racing when you were 13 years old in go-karts.
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Don Armstrong: Am I correct?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I started when I was 30 and my dad.
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SPEAKER_00: We, you know, I went to a K1 speed when I was 13, and uh we got I got a little, we were like, oh yeah, we want to you know do this.
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SPEAKER_00: So we bought a little go-kart, put it in the back of the pickup shop, you ran that for a year and just kind of kept going.
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Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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Don Armstrong: Well, and and and when uh were these like shifter carts?
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Don Armstrong: Were they just regular standard go-karts?
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Don Armstrong: Or uh I can't imagine if your dad's into carting that he would have just a regular standard putt-putt golf cart.
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SPEAKER_00: It was it was a basically a lawnmower engine.
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SPEAKER_00: It was made by uh the Briggs and Stratton.
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SPEAKER_00: It was an LSB cart.
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SPEAKER_00: Sally Austin.
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Mike Marrs: So it was really a starter cart.
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Mike Marrs: When you started, you started.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was it was like bare bones.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was like five years old.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what I first started on.
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Don Armstrong: That well, there's nothing wrong with that.
3:04
Don Armstrong: Mike learned how to drive on one of those.
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Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah, he's still got one in his backyard.
3:07
Don Armstrong: He takes it down to the 7-Eleven every once in a while.
3:11
Don Armstrong: So um I understand that you are an engineering student.
3:16
Don Armstrong: Let's get down to the basics here.
3:17
Don Armstrong: You graduated from high school, and uh, I assume that you were in college or have graduated from college?
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Don Armstrong: University of California.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm in college right now.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm uh junior right now, uh studying electrical engineering.
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Don Armstrong: Electrical engineering.
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Don Armstrong: So, what made you go into that direction?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh I I really think that's the way cars are going.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I see where it is with you know all the electronics in cars and ECUs and programming, and I'm like, I that's kind of the way I thought the automotive industry was going.
3:53
Don Armstrong: Well, from what I understand, I and uh that that good for you.
3:56
Don Armstrong: Yeah, from what I understand that you know the electrical architecture in cars is uh they've been trying to get it changed since the onset of you know the hundred computers that are now on board.
4:07
Don Armstrong: Uh and the first thing is these uh 12 volt systems, and they want to get to a 24-volt system, and it's also gonna cut down a lot of weight on the car because of the wiring that's currently in there, and uh so it's all gonna go fiber.
4:22
Don Armstrong: Am I missing something there?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have read about that.
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SPEAKER_00: I think you're correct.
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SPEAKER_00: I I'm not sure though.
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SPEAKER_00: I would have to read more on it.
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Jeff Dziekan: Well, you just be the evolution of the automobile, and we've got youngsters like you, Andrew, that are gonna take that evolution to the next level.
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Jeff Dziekan: So, you know, kudos to you for finding that niche there and uh working it out with your race car career.
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Don Armstrong: Yeah, and uh, and that goes with, you know, you know, let's see, uh nature studies and uh and uh let's talk about you know global warming and all of the other classes that you gotta take to get the degree, right?
4:57
Don Armstrong: Am I right?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I had to say I'm taking some interesting classes.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: I took a I took a class on the Beatles, which was pretty fun.
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SPEAKER_00: But yeah, there's some interesting classes.
5:10
Don Armstrong: Considering they're from England.
5:12
Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah.
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Don Armstrong: And they build cars over there, but they're really weird cars.
5:16
Don Armstrong: But uh anyway, that's it.
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Jeff Dziekan: I was gonna say University of California, Santa Cruz.
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Jeff Dziekan: So uh a lot of girls out there, huh?
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Jeff Dziekan: For youngsters that are uh race car drivers.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh unfortunately I'm pretty focused on racing in uh school.
5:34
Mike Marrs: But there's always room.
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Mike Marrs: That's not gonna say.
5:37
Don Armstrong: No, he's not gonna say, he's not gonna tip his hand.
5:39
Don Armstrong: So yeah, you're driving, uh, I understand, in the Arca series.
5:42
Don Armstrong: Let's talk about that, shall we?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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Don Armstrong: So how did you how did you get the ride, first of all?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh I I met Tim Huddleston.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's the team owner I raced for.
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SPEAKER_00: I met him when I was I think 17.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I raced at his racetrack at Rwindell Speedway.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Rest in peace, it closed.
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SPEAKER_00: But I raced at his racetrack in the in the spec late model division with just like me and a couple people.
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SPEAKER_00: We were just working on the car and then I won a couple races.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I think it was last year I was at school, and he calls me and I was in I forgot what class it was.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was my differential equation class that I was in.
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SPEAKER_00: My ARCA car.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yeah, what did he like this weekend?
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SPEAKER_00: Do you have an ARC license?
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah, I did not have an ARCA license.
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SPEAKER_00: I like both ARC.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, how do I get a license?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, you gotta go to the doctor, you know, you gotta do all this stuff, and I like got it somehow in that five-day period as a track that weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of how I ended up this.
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Don Armstrong: And and and so that first race was where?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh Bakersfield.
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SPEAKER_00: It was uh Kevin Harvick's current high school.
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Don Armstrong: Okay, and how long was the track?
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SPEAKER_00: That was half a mile.
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Don Armstrong: Half mile track.
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Don Armstrong: So and it's a banked oval?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was I think it's 14 degrees of banking.
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Don Armstrong: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Not sure, but it was pretty big.
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Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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Don Armstrong: And let's talk about the car that you're driving in.
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Don Armstrong: Um I I assume that in ARCA there are different levels of cars for different tracks and ability to drive them and that sort of thing.
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Don Armstrong: Am I correct or no?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh they're all pretty similar.
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SPEAKER_00: They're all around 700, 700 horsepower.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, they all weigh about 3300 pounds.
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SPEAKER_00: Um all you know, CO2 chassis.
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SPEAKER_00: So they're all pretty similar, but you know, there's some differences in who made the car, who made the chassis, who built your engine, but they're all kind of roughly in that area, 750 horsepower.
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Don Armstrong: So, how did you do in your first race?
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Don Armstrong: Where did you place?
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Don Armstrong: I think we finished sixth.
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SPEAKER_00: Or sixth, I think.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fifth or sixth.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
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Don Armstrong: So a top 10 finish, what about uh 20 cars, 30 cars?
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SPEAKER_00: 27, I believe.
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Don Armstrong: 27 cars.
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Don Armstrong: Well, way to go, dude.
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Don Armstrong: You're you're you're bad to the bone kind of guy.
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Don Armstrong: So uh and are you still in that series?
8:12
Don Armstrong: You still racing?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we I just raced uh a couple weeks ago at Shasta.
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SPEAKER_00: We finished fourth.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna Colorado next week.
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SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, I'll win it.
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Jeff Dziekan: So there you go.
8:23
Don Armstrong: Well, yeah, it's time.
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Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta prove to your owner that uh his choice in you driving the car was a good one.
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Don Armstrong: And I think that you probably have got a good good leg up on that.
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Jeff Dziekan: He's on his way, yeah.
8:35
Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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Don Armstrong: Uh well, so um what what are your goals?
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Don Armstrong: Are you gonna stay in ARCA another year while you uh get your college degree?
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Don Armstrong: Or uh what what are your plans?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I'm always looking for opportunities.
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SPEAKER_00: So um good answer.
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SPEAKER_00: So if anyone wants to wants me to drive the race car, call me.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh but I'm always looking for opportunities, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll drive anything.
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SPEAKER_00: Anything with four wheels, put me in it.
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SPEAKER_00: Um may not do the best, but believe me.
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Jeff Dziekan: You'll try hard.
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Jeff Dziekan: Oh no.
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Jeff Dziekan: We lost him.
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Mike Marrs: Yeah.
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Jeff Dziekan: Well, he's got a he's got his head on straight, that's for sure.
9:20
Mike Marrs: Yeah, he does.
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Jeff Dziekan: He wants to he's got a plan what he wants to do.
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Jeff Dziekan: Twenty-one years old, come on now.
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Jeff Dziekan: What were you what was your plan at 21?
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Jeff Dziekan: To make it 22 years old.
9:30
Don Armstrong: You don't want to know what my plan was.
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Don Armstrong: My plan was whatever was happening that night, that was the plan.
9:36
Don Armstrong: Yeah.
9:37
Don Armstrong: Um, let's see.
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Mike Marrs: Um we've lost his volume and everything.
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Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
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Jeff Dziekan: And to have an owner call you and say, hey, come come join my team, that'd be cool.
9:46
Jeff Dziekan: That's cool too.
9:46
Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
9:47
Mike Marrs: But it is, and it that goes through his effort and stuff.
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Mike Marrs: And I was hoping that we'd get to talk to him a little bit longer.
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Mike Marrs: You you ask him long-range plans, but I was wondering, is he going to go into that automotive space for that with that electrical engineering degree, or is he just going to use that to pay for his racing efforts?
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Don Armstrong: Well, I don't know, obviously.
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Don Armstrong: Um, a degree is something in addition to uh a uh electrical degree, or uh the electrical dri degree that he's trying to go for uh is going to be for him anyway, right?
10:23
Don Armstrong: Uh automotive related.
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Don Armstrong: And um but I mean he's 21.
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Jeff Dziekan: And what happens if you don't make it as a race car driver?
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Jeff Dziekan: What happens if you don't pick up a ride next year and you're off a year or two?
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Jeff Dziekan: You've got to fall back on an electrical degree.
10:37
Don Armstrong: Well, there's also that and um also behind the scenes in racing as well.
10:42
Don Armstrong: And uh listen, I worked with a lot of talented guys when I did the NHRA drag racing tour.
10:47
Don Armstrong: And those guys that are in Formula One and IndyCar, they're making some really good money and they're very talented, and most of them have a a college degree in something.
10:55
Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, and uh some engineering field.
10:58
Don Armstrong: Yeah, exactly.
10:59
Mike Marrs: So they gotta have that so they can kind of help the guys that are their their crew set up the car.
11:04
Mike Marrs: They gotta be able to communicate this is what the car is doing on the track so that they can make adjustments.
11:09
Don Armstrong: Yeah, and as his bio reads here, the long term goal goal is uh reaching the NASCAR Cup series, right?
11:15
Don Armstrong: As with anybody, I think that at his level, and uh obviously he's got a connection with the ARCA series and uh he does now, yeah, absolutely.
11:24
Don Armstrong: And the they they the the cup series owners pull from ARCA, um the truck series.
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Don Armstrong: They pull from over the carts, they grew up from the carts series.
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Don Armstrong: There is that as well.
11:37
Don Armstrong: So um I think that there's a lot of potential there for that boy.
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Don Armstrong: But it's his name is Andrew Chapman.
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Don Armstrong: But it's not a good thing.
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Mike Marrs: That was one of the reasons that uh I thought his story was we've talked to some of those young guys, uh one in particular that was already going overseas, still a teenager going overseas, doing really well.
11:53
Mike Marrs: Family owned a track.
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Mike Marrs: So I mean there was a lot of support there in that regard.
11:58
Jeff Dziekan: Networking to begin with.
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Mike Marrs: Yeah, he's working out of the back of his dad's pickup truck between tracks when he's in the go-kart series.
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Mike Marrs: So I just thought it was really interesting to see somebody coming up that way.
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Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, but you brought up the point, Mike, that there's you know, he could get into something in the automotive, a niche for that electrical.
12:16
Jeff Dziekan: But in any of the racing series we talk about, you've got NHRA, you got NASCAR, you got Indy, like you stated, there are specialties.
12:23
Jeff Dziekan: You've got a a department or a team of people just for the shocks.
12:27
Jeff Dziekan: And then you got a team of people and and an NHRA just for the heads or uh suspension and computers.
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Jeff Dziekan: So each one has its own little department, little niche that he could get into, or no more.
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Mike Marrs: Absolutely.
12:40
Mike Marrs: Yeah.
12:41
Mike Marrs: And then you go look at the the sanctioning bodies like NHRA.
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Mike Marrs: You know, they've got their tracks, IHRA, Formula One, whoever, NASCAR.
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Mike Marrs: I mean, they've got a lot of stuff going on there at their tracks.
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Mike Marrs: It takes a lot of somebody with an engineering degree to kind of set it up and keep it functioning.
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Mike Marrs: Right.
12:58
Mike Marrs: Exactly.
12:59
Don Armstrong: Yeah, well that's yeah, and there's all kinds of aspects.
13:02
Don Armstrong: Within those uh entities, uh there's always the guy that uh has got to pass your car with an inspection, and he's the inspector.
13:10
Mike Marrs: The safety guys and yeah.
13:12
Don Armstrong: Well, not just safety, but the whole overall car.
13:14
Don Armstrong: You know, has it got the right uh fuel injection system on it?
13:18
Don Armstrong: Is he trying to cheat with something?
13:20
Mike Marrs: Yeah, is there any extra fuel in the in the roll bar piping or anything?
13:25
Mike Marrs: Dang, you found me out.
13:27
Mike Marrs: That's it.
13:27
Don Armstrong: Roll bar piping fuel supply.
13:29
Mike Marrs: Well, there was who was it that did that, Mike?
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Mike Marrs: You should you he was a drag racer, and I'm trying to remember who it was.
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Jeff Dziekan: No, I thought it was a NASCAR guy where he had the fuel line from the tank to the carburetor was like an extra 19 feet roped through the car so that when they put gas in it, they filled up the tube and the tank so that it kind of like never ran out of gas because it was like 20 gallons in the tube.
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Mike Marrs: Exactly.
13:54
Mike Marrs: I think it was a drag race that actually had it inside the roll cage.
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Mike Marrs: Oh, that's really safe.
13:59
Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's real safe there.
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Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, quarter mile at a time.
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Jeff Dziekan: Interesting stuff.
14:03
Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
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Jeff Dziekan: Well, best of luck to the young man.
14:05
Don Armstrong: Yeah.
14:06
Don Armstrong: I'm sorry that we lost him.
14:07
Mike Marrs: Uh yeah, I got a text back from him that his Wi-Fi suddenly stopped altogether.
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Jeff Dziekan: Well, there you go.
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Jeff Dziekan: California.
14:13
Mike Marrs: California, what can you say?
14:16
unknown: Yeah, there's that.
14:17
Don Armstrong: All right.
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Don Armstrong: Uh, just ahead.
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Don Armstrong: Okay.
16:26
Don Armstrong: Um I had an opportunity to drive the 2027 Kia Telluride.
16:34
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16:47
Don Armstrong: I got to drive the X Pro SX Prestige all-wheel drive.
16:54
Don Armstrong: So these are basically trim packages, is what they are.
16:58
Don Armstrong: And they name them different things, and they bundle up all these things within those trim packages, and usually it goes up the ladder to the top line trim called X Pro.
17:08
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17:11
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17:16
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17:20
Don Armstrong: This is a complete redesign for 2027.
17:23
Don Armstrong: Sharp looking, blunt nose with a distinct lighting pattern up front, symmetrical wheel well openings with slab sides, rear vertical lighting takes cues from the front lights.
17:44
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17:47
Don Armstrong: I love the beautiful design execution.
17:49
Don Armstrong: We could use improvement, nothing.
17:53
Don Armstrong: Overall, it gets high marks for the design of this thing.
17:58
Don Armstrong: Interior highlights.
17:59
Don Armstrong: Our top-of-the-line X Pro uh interior trim and seat coverings are top-notch all the way.
18:06
Don Armstrong: Now there's more leg room in the back seats, thanks to a longer wheelbase with this redesign.
18:12
Don Armstrong: Dual phone chargers, that was interesting, right up front, up there on the center console, and big in-console cup holders are handy as well.
18:23
Don Armstrong: Huge instrument and infotainment screen, one of the best that I've used.
18:28
Don Armstrong: Cargo trunk room is kind of small with a third row up, as you would expect.
18:32
Don Armstrong: What I liked about it, uh the design is modern, clever, and unique.
18:36
Don Armstrong: I think that you'll really like it.
18:38
Don Armstrong: What could use improvement?
18:39
Don Armstrong: We couldn't think of anything.
18:41
Don Armstrong: If you're in the market for something like this, definitely put it on your list.
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Don Armstrong: If you're in the market for a suburban, this is something that would be a competitor to that.
18:50
Don Armstrong: Now here's a hitch that may be uh uh strike against it.
18:55
Don Armstrong: 2.5 liter turbo four, a four-banger, two hundred and seventy-four horsepower.
19:04
Don Armstrong: Might be a little low on power for as big as it is and how much weight it hauls.
19:08
Don Armstrong: Uh torque, 311 pound feet, eight-speed automatic transmission, 5,000 pound tow rating.
19:14
Don Armstrong: Can't imagine it.
19:15
Don Armstrong: But 17 miles per gallon in the city, 22 on the highway for a combined of 19.
19:20
Don Armstrong: I got 22.5 miles per gallon over 467.8 miles.
19:26
Don Armstrong: Well, can use improvement?
19:28
Don Armstrong: The transmission downshift is slow uh to meet our needs.
19:32
Don Armstrong: It needs more revs uh to be able to do that as well.
19:35
Don Armstrong: So I think that they need to do a little bit more tweaking on the transmission.
19:40
Don Armstrong: Ride and handling, smooth ride, and despite its size, easy to maneuver in the grocery store parking lot.
19:47
Don Armstrong: Uh what could use improvement?
19:48
Don Armstrong: Nothing.
19:49
Don Armstrong: Uh we didn't uh take it off-road, but the X Pro does have off-road type tires on it and uh the tell you ride height for off-roading, if you're into that sort of thing.
20:02
Don Armstrong: I don't know anybody.
20:04
Don Armstrong: I don't know anybody that goes off-roading in their own.
20:08
Don Armstrong: Uh so base trim price on this trim price now,$56,790.
20:13
Don Armstrong: Price is tested,$59,580.
20:17
Don Armstrong: That's pretty expensive.
20:18
Don Armstrong: But the base model price is$39,190.
20:22
Don Armstrong: So you can get into one of these things for under$40,000.
20:26
Don Armstrong: Competitors?
20:27
Don Armstrong: Hyundai Palisade,$39,435 is where it starts.
20:31
Jeff Dziekan: I had a question about that.
20:32
Jeff Dziekan: Go ahead.
20:33
Don Armstrong: Honda Pilot,$42,500.
20:37
Don Armstrong: A Honda's always been more expensive than most uh of its competitors.
20:40
Don Armstrong: And the Mazda CX90 is also a competitor.
20:43
Don Armstrong: It starts at$38,800.
20:46
Jeff Dziekan: The the when you said Palisades, I was thinking of the Palisades when I saw the back picture of that vehicle, uh tell you ride Palisades.
20:53
Jeff Dziekan: To me, they kind of blend together.
20:55
Jeff Dziekan: And you also stated that it's up against competition of the suburban.
20:59
Jeff Dziekan: Is it that large?
21:00
Jeff Dziekan: It says large.
21:02
Don Armstrong: It it yeah, it is.
21:03
Don Armstrong: It's it this is a big vehicle, and it's called a standard SUV, which throws it in the same category as a suburban.
21:10
Don Armstrong: That too is a standard SUV.
21:12
Don Armstrong: I would think Tahoe, but Suburban is a big, big truck.
21:15
Don Armstrong: It's big.
21:15
Don Armstrong: It's uh three rows of seating.
21:17
Don Armstrong: So that's what this is.
21:20
Don Armstrong: Well, let's do your motor minute there, sir.
21:22
Jeff Dziekan: Sure, I've got one.
21:22
Jeff Dziekan: So have you ever wondered why they drink milk at the end of the Indy 500?
21:25
Jeff Dziekan: Yes.
21:26
Jeff Dziekan: Well, Mike was asking the same thing, and I'm here to tell you.
21:29
Jeff Dziekan: Uh the iconic moment of the Indianapolis 500 winner drinking milk in Victory Lane is a long and colorful history that began in 1936.
21:37
Jeff Dziekan: Gentleman by the name of Lewis Mayer, then uh a regular buttermilk drinker from his childhood out of Yonkers, New York, won his third Indianapolis 500, becoming the first driver to achieve this three peat.
21:48
Jeff Dziekan: Exhausted after the 500 miles, he sat up on Victory Lane in the car, raised three fingers on one hand, and a and a bottle of milk in the other, and drank the milk.
21:58
Jeff Dziekan: The scene was captured at a movie market.
22:00
Jeff Dziekan: Milestone moment.
22:01
Jeff Dziekan: And the footage was later seen by the dairy industry executive who requested that milk be made available to every future winner of the Indianapolis 500.
22:10
Don Armstrong: Well, you know, Wisconsin may be the dairy capital of the world, but they'd also have cows in Indianapolis, too.
22:18
Jeff Dziekan: In 1936, the moment was unplanned, but it stuck.
22:21
Jeff Dziekan: Winners of the 1938 and 41, again in 46, with a World War II hiatus drank milk in Victory Lane.
22:28
Jeff Dziekan: Meyer had repeatedly sipped milk after the 1933 win, but in the 30s they weren't really doing that as a tradition.
22:35
Jeff Dziekan: But in the 50s, the milk ceremony had become a staple of the Indy 500.
22:39
Jeff Dziekan: Today it's one of the most recognizable sports traditions, with the Indiana Indiana dairy farmers playing a central role.
22:46
Jeff Dziekan: Since the 2000s, two Indiana farmers would request either a rookie or a veteran to present the ice-cold bottle of milk to the winning driver.
22:55
Jeff Dziekan: The drivers polled before the race choose either whole milk, 2%, or skim.
23:01
Jeff Dziekan: No mention of powdered or breasts.
23:03
Jeff Dziekan: The tradition has become more of a more than a drink.
23:20
Jeff Dziekan: Sacrilegious, milk remains a centerpiece of the celebration.
23:23
Jeff Dziekan: In short, the Indy 500 milk tradition began with a simple personal choice by Lewis Mayer in 1936, was immortalized in a newsreel, and has since grown to a 90-year-old celebration at Indianapolis 500.
23:36
Jeff Dziekan: Breast milk.
23:38
Don Armstrong: I didn't let you uh slip by with that.
23:40
Jeff Dziekan: No, okay.
23:40
Jeff Dziekan: Just making sure you were listening.
23:42
Jeff Dziekan: Well, I was.
23:42
Jeff Dziekan: And I'm going to do some other indie stuff leading up for next week as well.
23:45
Jeff Dziekan: So big event.
23:46
Jeff Dziekan: I love Indy.
23:47
Jeff Dziekan: Indy's fantastic.
23:48
Jeff Dziekan: I'm taping the qualifying right now.
23:50
Jeff Dziekan: They ran full practice this morning.
23:52
Jeff Dziekan: I've been watching it kind of segmented throughout the week, and it's very important.
23:54
Don Armstrong: You haven't had any wrecks?
23:56
Jeff Dziekan: Uh a couple spins, but nothing major.
23:58
Jeff Dziekan: Uh last year the pole winner was at 234, I think.
24:02
Jeff Dziekan: And yesterday they were clocking about 232, shutting it down because of wind and things like that.
24:07
Jeff Dziekan: So very, very cool.
24:08
Don Armstrong: Yeah.
24:09
Don Armstrong: Well, I noticed that uh somebody ran 240 in one of the straights.
24:13
Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, and they backed down because they said the car was not where it should be.
24:18
Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
24:19
Don Armstrong: Yeah, at 240.
24:20
Jeff Dziekan: Well, you're coming out of one turn and you're looking down, even if when you're going to the short shoot between one and two or three and four, you can see the flags, and that's what they look up at the flags to see where the wind's blowing.
24:29
Don Armstrong: Do you ever been to the indie race?
24:30
Jeff Dziekan: I've not to the race, but I've been to the track, you know, in between races.
24:34
Jeff Dziekan: Same thing with uh Daytona, but we actually in Miami for the NASCAR race.
24:38
Jeff Dziekan: But anyways, Indy's fantastic.
24:40
Jeff Dziekan: I love it.
24:41
Don Armstrong: I've been a couple of times, and I'll tell you what, that is that is an experience that I'll never forget.
24:45
Don Armstrong: Great place.
24:46
Mike Marrs: You've been to the actual race?
24:48
Don Armstrong: Yes, sir.
24:49
Don Armstrong: I have.
24:50
Don Armstrong: Uh sat on the infield uh behind uh the pits, and uh that was interesting in itself.
24:58
Don Armstrong: Or the paddock.
24:59
Don Armstrong: The paddock.
25:01
Don Armstrong: Anyway.
25:02
Don Armstrong: Story of the week.
25:03
Don Armstrong: I'm gonna do that now because I want to.
25:05
Don Armstrong: Era of globalization and free trade expansion is over, and few expect it to return.
25:10
Don Armstrong: More than a year after the president implemented tariffs at levels not seen in nearly a century, the future of automotive trade remains unclear, industry executives and analysts said.
25:19
Don Armstrong: North American trade rules are in flux.
25:22
Don Armstrong: I've kind of touched on this before.
25:24
Don Armstrong: Major review is scheduled for July.
25:26
Don Armstrong: Legal challenges to Trump's tariffs continue, and trade deals the U.S.
25:30
Don Armstrong: struck with some allies appear fragile, to say the least.
25:34
Don Armstrong: As automakers and suppliers grapple with tens of billions of dollars in annual tariff bills and increased commodities prices, they feel stuck, unable to make long-term decisions about where to invest and what to build and how to source their parts.
25:49
Don Armstrong: Trump aimed to motivate automakers and suppliers to move production to the U.S.
25:53
Don Armstrong: by placing 25% tariffs on vehicles and some auto parts.
25:56
Don Armstrong: Trump has repeatedly pointed to billions of dollars in investment announcements by automakers over the past year as evidence the tariffs are bringing production back to the United States.
26:07
Don Armstrong: The reality is more complicated.
26:08
Don Armstrong: Automakers have announced plans to move production of just five models to the U.S.
26:12
Don Armstrong: from other countries, according to an analysis by Auto Forecast Solutions.
26:16
Don Armstrong: Stellantis plans to transfer production of the Jeep Compass and Cherokee from Mexico to Illinois in the coming years, while GM plans to move Chevy Trailblazer and Equinox production out of Mexico to plants in Tennessee and Kansas.
26:29
Don Armstrong: GM also plans to move production of the successor to the Buick Invision crossover from China to Kansas.
26:36
Don Armstrong: Car manufacturers plan production five to seven years in advance, making it extremely difficult or even impossible for them to move quickly, according to Jennifer Safavian.
26:48
Don Armstrong: Safavian, CEO of Auto Drive America.
26:52
Don Armstrong: Can you check me?
26:53
Don Armstrong: There you go.
26:54
Don Armstrong: Which represents foreign automakers in the U.S.
26:56
Don Armstrong: and automotive supply chains are extremely complex, further complicating efforts to move production, she said.
27:03
Don Armstrong: Automakers with North America and auto production are looking to boost output of vehicles and parts that comply with the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement to reduce their tariff bills.
27:13
Don Armstrong: USMCA compliant vehicles and parts have received significant carve-outs from auto tariffs, in part because of automaker lobbying.
27:22
Don Armstrong: Canadian and Mexican vehicles that comply with USMCA rules for reduced tariffs are subject to 25% duties only on the value of a vehicle's non-American content rather than 25% on the full vehicle value.
27:35
Don Armstrong: U.S.
27:36
Don Armstrong: MCA faces a mandated review.
27:38
Don Armstrong: The agreement agrees uh requires the country's representatives to meet July 1st, six-year anniversary of the trade pact taking effect, to decide whether to extend it for another 16 years, and if so, whether it should be amended.
27:51
Don Armstrong: So that's coming up.
27:53
Don Armstrong: And of course, once uh they meet and decide, we will have the latest for you here on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
28:01
Don Armstrong: I was gonna say the radio car talk show, but it's we're not on the radio.
28:04
Don Armstrong: Stay tuned.
28:05
Don Armstrong: Yeah.
28:05
Don Armstrong: Um, which is good and bad.
28:07
Don Armstrong: Radio's gone down the toilet, but another subject for another day.
28:12
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