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Ian Furness 9/21 H3: Mike Sando, texts, fact or fiction and Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Mixed feelings for Ash. Seahawks proved there was no reason
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  Speaker 2: to worry about the Cardinals. They came away with a
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  Speaker 2: what Sam Donald's status is for that game as well.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald does speak today at 3 p.m., so he'll
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  Speaker 2: summarize what he's got going on there after that news conference.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure both Cougs and the Huskies win this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Next up for Washington, by the way, big one against
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  Speaker 2: 4.30 kickoff now slated at USC in two weeks' time
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  Speaker 2: as well. Lane Kiffin lost. That's a good thing for football.
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  Speaker 2: College football stuff tomorrow. We'll get into Oregon fans tomorrow. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: It's time for our Monday visit with Mike Sando of
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  Speaker 1: or visit HuntServices.com. Now with Mike Sando, here's Ian Furness.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando. NFL senior writer with The Athletic. He is there.
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  Speaker 2: He is all about the Pick 6 column every Monday morning.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. What time does that actually get posted, Mike?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's Monday morning for me. What time does
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  Speaker 2: it get posted normally?
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  Speaker 6: Maybe like 2 in the morning Eastern, 5 Pacific, something
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  Speaker 6: like that.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right. All right. Just checking. Great stuff today as always.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start. We've got a ton of stuff
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  Speaker 2: to talk about around the NFL and Kind of recap
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  Speaker 2: week two, heading into the final game of week two,
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  Speaker 2: which is coming up tonight with the Giants and the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: I must say, this is a weird thing to say,
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  Speaker 2: I was rooting for you. I was rooting for Mike Sandoe,
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  Speaker 2: and you know what I mean by that. The Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame committee, we talked about it last week, kind
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  Speaker 2: of getting cut down a little bit. But you made it,
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  Speaker 2: my friend. Congratulations. And I say that in all seriousness.
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  Speaker 2: I think saying not that the other people weren't, but
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  Speaker 2: I think you've always had a very level head when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the Hall of Fame and probably a
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  Speaker 2: different way to approach it. So I'm glad you're still
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  Speaker 2: involved with it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I had no idea they were going by height,
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  Speaker 6: but that worked in my favor this time.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, we'll take it.
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  Speaker 2: You're still in it. You did mention something today, and
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  Speaker 2: it's in the pick six. People can read it extensively,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll just quickly get to this, that it may be, again,
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  Speaker 2: more challenging to get coaches in when it's all said
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  Speaker 2: and done.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because they're competing against the players. There's no senior
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  Speaker 6: category now, but there's any player who's been retired at
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  Speaker 6: least five years and up to however.
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  Speaker 4: Decades retired. It's in that bucket. in the end.
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  Speaker 6: So usually that favors the players. It has historically, that's
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  Speaker 6: why years ago they created special lanes for coaching contributors.
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  Speaker 6: So to me, it's a little bit all over the
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  Speaker 6: place and we'll see what happens. I hopefully with a
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  Speaker 6: smaller committee, you know, some reason can prevail and we can,
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  Speaker 6: it's easier to maybe sway a group and not have
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  Speaker 6: big surprises, but we'll see. It's new for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I love the headline today, sorting through NFC North carnage.
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  Speaker 2: Let me start with that. NFC North carnage. three of
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  Speaker 2: the four teams have at least have one loss and
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  Speaker 2: are one-on-one. The other team that's undefeated is Minnesota at
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  Speaker 2: two and oh, who had all that with Minnesota, not
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  Speaker 2: even having, you know, having to go down to Carson
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  Speaker 2: Wentz road as quarterback on their bingo card.
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  Speaker 8: Huh?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I remember the whole off season was about JJ
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  Speaker 6: McCarthy and Kyler Murray's competition and either one of them's playing.
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  Speaker 6: So I guess Kyler Murray will come back this week. Maybe,
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  Speaker 6: maybe Kate, maybe Caleb Williams is not out as long as,
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  Speaker 6: as feared. So, you know, maybe they'll get some order restored.
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  Speaker 6: It was just a, You know, it's always kind of
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  Speaker 6: a fascinating division.
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  Speaker 2: Chicago losing Caleb Williams. Again, I guess the hamstring, we're waiting.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's serious, maybe it's not. It feels like I
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  Speaker 2: got mixed signals today. But for what the Bears, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how do you go? I know the weather wasn't good, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: but weather's not always good anywhere anyway. And just to
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  Speaker 2: go from what they did the week before, almost 60
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  Speaker 2: points to three, what happened?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, definitely weather was part of it.
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  Speaker 6: But I think, you know, when you play, teams that
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  Speaker 6: know you well, you know, and match up decently. I
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  Speaker 6: think Minnesota is, you know, a tough defense for them
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  Speaker 6: or anybody, uh, different things can happen. So, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think each game's its own and look, Carolina, they,
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  Speaker 6: they got Carolina and, and I don't think Carolina's defense
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  Speaker 6: is as nearly as good or formidable as Minnesota's is
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  Speaker 6: certainly isn't as, you know, developed that way. So, uh,
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  Speaker 6: they got inside the 15 yard line three times. the
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  Speaker 6: Bears didn't get any points. That's super rare, almost never happens.
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  Speaker 6: And I wouldn't read overly too much into it, but
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  Speaker 6: it affected the game for sure. And by the way,
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  Speaker 6: Caleb Williams was not on the field for two of
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  Speaker 6: those drives finishing. So that's a big shock to your
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  Speaker 6: team when you have a quarterback like that, right? He's
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  Speaker 6: the focus of everything and he leaves the game.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback play, God, how, I mean, the first two weeks,
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  Speaker 2: have they not just shown how important it is? Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a quarterback. I mean, they've got a, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: think what it would be, ended up being a four stringer, right?
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  Speaker 2: Playing yesterday to finish off the game. You've got Jane
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  Speaker 2: Daniels hurt again with the elbow injury. So Marcus Mariota
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  Speaker 2: comes back in, uh, Minnesota's winning despite the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they're on QB three, uh, you know, Pittsburgh doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback. It doesn't appear even though he's 42 and
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be in the hall of fame. Like it's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: have we ever seen a year in which way I
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  Speaker 2: just feels like underscoring quarterback importance is a big theme
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  Speaker 2: early on.
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  Speaker 4: It is, but you know, and let's give Drew, Drew
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  Speaker 4: Locke his, yep.
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  Speaker 6: His love here, too. But I think how your team
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  Speaker 6: is constructed around that position.
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  Speaker 4: Matters, too.
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  Speaker 6: And I think some teams are better equipped. We talked
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  Speaker 6: about this a little bit with the Bears. They have
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  Speaker 6: a good running game. That's going to help. For Seattle,
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  Speaker 6: they're committed to a running game that looks pretty good,
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  Speaker 6: and they have a good defense. So the quarterback is important,
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  Speaker 6: but they can win even diminishing the impact of that position.
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  Speaker 6: They did that a little bit in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't like they needed to be high-flying offense throwing
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  Speaker 6: it around. They took the risk out of the game,
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  Speaker 6: and they were still able to control it and win.
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  Speaker 6: And so that, to me, is the ideal setup. I
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  Speaker 6: think some of these teams that have the great quarterbacks
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  Speaker 6: do so well, but they become so oriented around the
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  Speaker 6: quarterback that maybe other aspects of your team get covered
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  Speaker 6: up a little bit, the weaknesses, until you get in
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  Speaker 6: a big playoff game or a big game and you
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  Speaker 6: see the complete teams really come through.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sano joining us from The Athletic. Mike, Detroit, how
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  Speaker 2: much of a problem, how much of a concern is
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  Speaker 2: their defense?
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  Speaker 6: I think it's a big concern. Now, they're going to
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  Speaker 6: get a couple of safeties back, and that's going to
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  Speaker 6: help them. But I don't think that they've really had
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  Speaker 6: differentiating coordinating on that side of the ball, maybe throughout
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  Speaker 6: the entirety of Dan Campbell's. I know Aaron Glenn got
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  Speaker 6: a coaching job out of it, but I don't think
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  Speaker 6: it was just because he was seen as like Brian Flores,
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  Speaker 6: where it's a differentiating scheme in the way he does
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  Speaker 6: it defines them. So I think that as their roster
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  Speaker 6: probably cycles a little bit here, they're not at their
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  Speaker 6: absolute best. Some of those things get exposed when you
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  Speaker 6: don't have elite coaching maybe to overcome it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize this or forgot about it maybe. So
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  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell's gotten rid of coordinators in season before? Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Anthony Lynn was one where he was– I don't think
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  Speaker 6: he fired Anthony Lynn from the staff, but he demoted
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  Speaker 6: him and took it over a little bit of himself
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  Speaker 6: and then gave it to Ben Johnson on the offensive
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  Speaker 6: side of the ball. And then I believe– I mean, defensively, they–
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  Speaker 6: I know they had an in-season firing of at least
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  Speaker 6: an assistant coach a few years ago.
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  Speaker 4: So he's made moves.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they got– now, in fairness, even especially week two,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that Buffalo team they played looks like it's
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  Speaker 2: on a mission. Like that's a tough Thursday night game
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  Speaker 2: to go to Buffalo.
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  Speaker 6: Their first game in their stadium. I think the Saints
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  Speaker 6: are better. We were talking about this before the season.
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  Speaker 6: People would always ask me who's a surprise team or
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  Speaker 6: surprise quarterback when we talked about quarterback tiers, and it
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  Speaker 6: was Tyler Shuck and the Saints. So I think they're
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  Speaker 6: actually a pretty good team.
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  Speaker 2: You wrote something I was– I want you to kind
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  Speaker 2: of clarify this because I'm still trying to learn some
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  Speaker 2: of these new numbers, but the Vikings are one of
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  Speaker 2: four teams since the start of last season with negative
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  Speaker 2: offensive EPA across their victories. So they're 2-0, but they
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  Speaker 2: have a negative offensive EPA across their victories. How rare
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  Speaker 2: is that and what does that mean?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's good timing because I'm going to actually
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  Speaker 6: publish a little bit of a primer on some of
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  Speaker 6: these numbers that have sort of, these metrics that have
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  Speaker 6: that have kind of crept in. And then after a while,
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  Speaker 6: you're like, wait a minute, do I understand all of
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  Speaker 6: these things?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, the answer is no.
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  Speaker 4: The idea is basically this.
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  Speaker 6: We can measure the impact towards winning and scoring of
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  Speaker 6: each phase independently. And you do that by realizing there's
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  Speaker 6: a value to every field position on the game. So
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  Speaker 6: there's a really high value. If you have first and
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  Speaker 6: goal at the one, right, you're expected to score about
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  Speaker 6: almost six.
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  Speaker 4: Points, right? You're going to get that.
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  Speaker 6: So if you fumble the ball, and the other team
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  Speaker 6: runs it back for a touchdown, they get six, but
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  Speaker 6: they also get your, your six, right. That you were
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  Speaker 6: going to score. It's a 12 point play, right. We
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  Speaker 6: would all feel that. So the EPA can, can look
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  Speaker 6: at that type of stuff. And over the course of
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  Speaker 6: a game, it adds it all up for every play
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  Speaker 6: pretty accurately. So what that means is that the, Most teams,
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  Speaker 6: if you were to look at only their wins, they'd
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  Speaker 6: probably be pretty good in all of the phases. Offense, defense,
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  Speaker 6: and special teams would all probably be in the positive
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  Speaker 6: as contributing towards winning. But there's four teams, and the
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  Speaker 6: Vikings are among them, that I think might be since
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  Speaker 6: the start of last season in their victories. Actually, their
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  Speaker 6: offense has been a detriment, has been below average. That's
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  Speaker 6: just rare, right? You wouldn't normally win. Normally, you're singling
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  Speaker 6: out your best games. So what that means is they're
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  Speaker 6: super overly reliant on the, in their case, the defense
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  Speaker 6: when they win the games. And we can feel that, right?
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  Speaker 6: They've had a lot of quarterbacks through there. They win
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  Speaker 6: with this defense that makes a bunch of big plays.
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  Speaker 6: And the other teams whose wins, you know, have been
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  Speaker 6: carried by the defense with bad contributions from the offense.
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  Speaker 6: It's teams like the Browns and the Raiders, the teams
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  Speaker 6: like that. But I think what's remarkable about Minnesota is
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  Speaker 6: they have a lot more wins. They've won 11 games
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  Speaker 6: since the start of last year. They probably can't even
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  Speaker 6: name all their quarterbacks, right? So the point there is just, one,
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  Speaker 6: there's a limitation on that. You're not going to go
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  Speaker 6: all the way doing that. But it really tells you
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  Speaker 6: how you're winning the games. And for them, it's been
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  Speaker 6: disproportionately defense.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sandoz joining us. Let's talk Cleveland for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Todd Monk's comments afterward were great, kind of challenging some
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  Speaker 2: people in the media, and then at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: they're one of the ones. I know there was rain
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  Speaker 2: and a weather delay, but listen, the weather delay came
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  Speaker 2: after they already took the lead. There's two minutes to go.
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  Speaker 2: So Cleveland gets a win in Tampa. There's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people that, for obvious reasons, aren't Deshaun Watson fans.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't like Aaron Rodgers. So but
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  Speaker 2: I love the comparison. Deshaun Watson playing better than Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Rodgers right now. Is that right?
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  Speaker 6: He definitely did yesterday. I mean, he had a lot
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  Speaker 6: better numbers. So Rodgers stats through his first two games
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  Speaker 6: are the worst of his career in 18 seasons in
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  Speaker 6: which he started the first two games. And it's like four, five,
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  Speaker 6: six categories are the worst. So they had a fourth
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  Speaker 6: and 43 yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: If you didn't watch, I did. I saw that. That
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  Speaker 2: was insane.
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  Speaker 6: Reeling, you know, and Rodgers is taking sacks and, you know,
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  Speaker 6: he called it a miscommunication, but, Usually when there's a
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  Speaker 6: free guy rushing the quarterback, you think it's going to
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  Speaker 6: be the quarterback's responsibility. I don't know if that was
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  Speaker 6: the case, but he got hit like a 1970s-style hit.
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  Speaker 6: The defender's helmet between the shoulder blades, he doesn't see
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  Speaker 6: it coming, and he just gets his whole body snapped
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  Speaker 6: with full force, thrown it onto the ground. That's when
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  Speaker 6: you really know you're off, because that should almost never happen,
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  Speaker 6: especially to a guy who's played as much as Rodgers
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  Speaker 6: has played.
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  Speaker 2: He also– he made kind of some comments about how
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  Speaker 2: it's on the players and we got a lead. I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't tell. Was that a shot at the coaching staff
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  Speaker 2: or was that just– I couldn't– I was trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what– I guess with Aaron, I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what he was trying to say. So
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  Speaker 2: that's hard for him.
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  Speaker 6: I would guarantee that he would be able to explain
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  Speaker 6: how it's not, that, hey, he knows about how teams
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  Speaker 6: and businesses or whatever are run and.
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  Speaker 4: This is the best way to have it happen.
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  Speaker 6: What he's saying, if you're not cynical about it, what
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  Speaker 6: he's saying is, hey, the players have to buy in
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  Speaker 6: here and the players have to give good feedback to
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  Speaker 6: the coaches on what's happening here so we can get
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  Speaker 6: on the same page. But really what he was saying was,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the players have to tell the coaches so
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  Speaker 6: we can be in better plays.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 6: So, you know, I mean, as I pointed out, they've
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  Speaker 6: got coaches with a lot of experience.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of experience. Better visions, better views of the,
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  Speaker 4: of the game.
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  Speaker 6: So it's one of those things early on in a
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  Speaker 6: season week two, where you're like, okay, he's kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of spinning this a little bit. That's Rogers.
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  Speaker 2: He's also 42. Like it, you know, like you're expecting
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  Speaker 2: a guy to win a young man's game. It's not
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  Speaker 2: young anymore. And like you mentioned, like that blitz where
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  Speaker 2: he got, I mean, he did get folded in half.
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised he got up after that, uh, with
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  Speaker 2: that before that fourth and 43, but You're expecting him
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  Speaker 2: to do that in the young man's game, and it
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  Speaker 2: just may not be there anymore. Let me get to
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  Speaker 2: the Code Red world that we're living in right now,
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  Speaker 2: because 0-2 is always a very important number in terms
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  Speaker 2: of possibility to get to the postseason. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: start first with the Chargers. I'll stay there for a
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  Speaker 2: second in the AFC. So the L.A. Chargers are 0-2,
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  Speaker 2: and Herbert and Harbaugh and company have just struggled. They
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  Speaker 2: frankly have struggled the first couple of weeks. What kind
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  Speaker 2: of concerns are they having down in LA and what
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  Speaker 2: are those concerns, do you think?
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  Speaker 6: Big concern because you would have thought that Mike McDaniel
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  Speaker 6: coming in would give them something that would possibly improve
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  Speaker 6: what they've been doing offensively. It hasn't been the case
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  Speaker 6: at all. I think another criticism of them is banking
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  Speaker 6: on that too much. They didn't do much with their roster.
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  Speaker 6: They had money to spend in terms of the cap
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  Speaker 6: and didn't do it. I think their GM, Joe Ortiz,
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  Speaker 6: comes from Baltimore and wants to take a long view
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  Speaker 6: and build this thing out over time, but they're in
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  Speaker 6: a division where it's win now and their roster, you know,
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: Khalil Mack and Justin Herbert making a lot of money
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: in his prime physically, you know, you'd think you'd be
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: pushing a little bit harder. So in the end, I
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: think you'd expect their quarterback to overcome more of this
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: and give them a chance to score better than 14 points.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: Even if it is going to be a ramp up
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: period on offense with a new coordinator, that's been disappointing and,
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: It's very concerning for them.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, and like you said, it's a
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: win-now division. I mean, that division, I mean, it was
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas 2-0, good for Clint Kubiak. We're not sure
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: if that's sustainable, but Kansas City looks very much the part,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and Denver as well. You know they're going to be,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: that's a really, both West divisions are really, really tough
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: to be in right now. What about Tampa Bay and
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: their $ 100 million quarterback, Braykin Mayfield? There's got to be
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: some consternation down there right now.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: There is.
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, they've, I think there's something like, two and
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: nine in the last 11 and going back to last year,
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: you know, and last year you kind of thought they
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: had a lot of injuries to their offensive line and
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: that was going to be better this year. And if
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: Baker got his contract, you know, either way he was
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: going to be either happy with the deal or he's
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: going to be driven without it. And they just have
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: not looked good at all to the point where you wonder, okay,
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: you know, is this a place where there's going to be,
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: you know, some changes coming because they've invested in the
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: quarterback and they're expecting more and he doesn't look good.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: Does not look good at all. He had three fumbles
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: from the first game. Almost like a carelessness.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: A little bit there. But he needs to be really
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: on point.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I just, that one, I mean, listen, good for Cleveland.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: But that one, I think, surprised everybody around the NFL yesterday.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Those guys getting beat, whether delay or not, when it
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: was all said and done. Let's get to Seattle for
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a second. They take care of business in Arizona with
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: a 24-point second half. Or was it 21-point second half?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Whatever it was. And roll over the Arizona Cardinals with
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke at the helm again, who's had just an
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: incredible two games, most of game one and all of
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: game two yesterday. Helps when you have JSN. What are
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: you seeing with the Seahawks?
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: Like a feeling of inevitability to the game. Like even
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: when it's 7-7 early, you just feel like it's just
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: a matter of time. There's enough possessions go by. It's
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: just swinging in their favor. I thought Drew Locke was
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: more polished in this game in terms of some of
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: those procedural things and just hiccups on the offense that
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: were understandable in the first game of the year when
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: he's just suddenly thrown in there.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Went away.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: It just didn't seem like it was as bad of
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: a problem.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I thought it was smoother.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: I thought he made some really nice throws on rhythm.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: Great one over the middle there, just like off his
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: back foot and just threaded it. So I thought that
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: was really good. And then, you know, defensively, man, what
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: a scheme, what a team, what players, the Julian Love
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: interception where he just comes running out. It was like
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: a baseball player in the outfield suddenly appears at the,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: at the, you know, over by the, over by the
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: first baseline extended down there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And just makes a catch leaning over the stands. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: just thought, wow.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: And then the stats coming out, like the Cardinals did
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: not have a game longer than, nine yards.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: In the game.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: They didn't have a double-digit gain in the game. It
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: felt like that. It just felt like there was a big,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: heavy blanket over them, and they couldn't move. Really, that's
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: a sign of a great team, in my opinion, when
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: you can do that with your starting quarterback, with your
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: backup quarterback. That's what I'm talking about, about being built to,
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: of course, you have to have a good quarterback, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: not being reliant on it going through the quarterback all
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: the time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Feeling bad for our buddy Dan Quinn. Gene Daniels goes
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: down again. Obviously bad for Daniels as well with that
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: elbow injury. So Seattle's going to see probably Marcus Mariota
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: coming up this week. when they go there for the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: 10 a.m. game on Sunday. Let's get Mike Sandoz to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: wrap things up. I'm excited for tonight, man. Giants, after
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: watching them week one with Scataboo and Dart and having
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh and that energy that he brings to that
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: team going against the Rams, and we all know what
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: happened week one against the San Francisco 49ers, who, side note,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: have looked really good, unfortunately.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: How about that? I think the Rams are a good team.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: I think the Giants had a nice week one. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: don't trust the Giants as much. I just feel from
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: the quarterback the way he takes hits i don't think
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: the running back's dynamic they do have a really good
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: wide receiver i think john harbaugh is good but again
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: he's not uh kind of like kind of like his
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: brother i mean they're they're good program leaders but is
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: he going to be turning.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: The dials on the scheme to pull it all together?
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: We'll see.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: I just think this is one where we see a
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: little bit more of the real Rams, I would think,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: and they win the game comfortably. That's my feel.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I like that. We also see Aaron Donald tonight,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the return of Aaron Donald. How about that?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It almost has to be disappointing. How could he?
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: You know, at this age coming back, I mean, it'll
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: be cool to see him out there, but.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: I'm a little, we'll just see what the impact is.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Maybe if it's amazing, that'll be, what a story it'll be.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: It's just to me, when you're out three years, I
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: don't know. I think he's going to be 80% of
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: what he was, something like that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Still good. If he's 80% of Aaron Donald, still good. But, yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, though, Mike. I'm just kind of curious.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: We just talked about Aaron Rodgers at 42. And, I mean,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's not 42, plays a different position, looks to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the eyes like he's in great shape and does all
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: this stuff that he posts online. But we all know
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: football shape's different than other shape. And that's a long
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: time to be out, and you're not a spring chicken anymore. And, oh,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: by the way, no Miles Garrett, right? No Miles Garrett
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: out there for you.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not scared.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Donald can do it for a year.
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: I've looked at these ages. He's 35.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: You see some of these.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Guys at that age still have it a little bit.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I think it tends to go after that. The other
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: thing that's unique about him is he is a defensive tackle,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: which I think we're used to seeing a lot of
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: older guys. pass rushing defensive ends, like some rental guys
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: that teams would sign over the years. They might come
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: out of retirement at 39 and make an impact over
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: the years. That's not really true at defensive tackle. At
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: the same time, he's not, you know, a 320 pound
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: defensive tackle with a big gut either. He's a different
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: defensive tackle. No doubt he's in good shape. So I
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: think it's fascinating to see what will happen.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: And, you know, he is unique. So he may show
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: us something.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Go check out Mike Sandel's column every Monday, the Pick
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: 6 column, The Athletic on the NFL tab, usually it's
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: on the front page anyway, which it was this morning.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Great stuff as always. Mike, we'll talk to you next week, sir.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: How about Mike Sandel picking up the Rams? Big double-digit
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: win tonight, huh? Uh-huh.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I need that. I want some money.
• 22:10
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• 22:12
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• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Now back to Countdown to Monday Night Football with Ian Furness.
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• 22:28
  Speaker 8: Ian, Ashley, Chip here. This narrative that because Jerry DiPoto
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: is the greatest GM in our history, that buys him
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: some time. I can't even find the emotion behind it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: to react to that. Being the greatest GM of a
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: team that has never achieved greatness means nothing. He's the
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: best loser. We've made the playoffs two times in the
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: last five years. So pull out all the stuff. I just,
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: this sucks. We suck.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Next Monday is going to be an interesting day. Ashley,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: it's going to be an interesting day.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: I think, unfortunately, I wish there'd be a lot of happiness,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: but I think there's gonna be a lot of anger.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, and, and, I don't know. We'll get into it
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: maybe later in the week, but, and maybe see what happens.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if people are going to be okay or,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: or even content unless like there's just a map. Like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I think the assumption is Dan's gone. Probably the coaching
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: staff's gone. That'll appease some, but I think there's a
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: lot of people that are just saying, let's get rid
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of them all.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting. I think.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And if that doesn't happen, there's going to be.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Some, there's going to be a lot of anger.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And yeah. So that's a, That's a future us problem.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: What's next?
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: In the last couple decades, our standards went from contending
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: for our division to just hopefully making it into.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: A wildcard spot.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: Now wildcard has expanded, and we're still not hitting that
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: bare minimum standard. Something definitely needs to change, and it
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: needs to go from the top down.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: You know what's wild about this is that the day
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: after the Seahawks win, there's still emotion about the baseball team.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: And I think that's a positive thing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I know nobody watched it yesterday because it was 100
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: when the Seahawks were playing. And I think if you're
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the Mariners, you should be okay with that. It's the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: earliest they've been knocked out in a while, right? I mean,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: they're not officially out, but we kind of all wrote
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: them off on, if nothing else, Saturday. Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But before that. And people are still fired up
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and revved up and ready to go.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: 49451. Quinn says, holy smokes, I'm not a hater on
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, but man, that was the most dramatic hammy
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: pull I've ever seen. Only one team more overrated going
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: into the season is San Diego Chargers. I'm intentional saying
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: San Diego. Poor Caleb Williams.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: He's getting some grief today because he may actually play
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: next week, and when he left the field on the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: cart and unable to put any weight on his hammy,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: it was like, Well, people first were going, is that Achilles?
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: I thought he ruptured his Achilles and was done for
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: the year.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Because he just fell and his bottom half of his
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: leg went limp.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It went limp. And now he may come back and play.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: And people are like, you can't win.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: It's like Paul Pearson in a wheelchair or whatever.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Let's see. With Pete as coach 425, I wanted to
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: compete all the time. Now I want to stack stuff
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: in my life. Let's keep stacking.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Stack it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Jaren Reed was asked about that afterwards, the game yesterday.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it. Jaren Reed's like,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: I'm just here doing what coach tells me to do.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: If we're stacking, I'm stacking. If we're not, I'm not.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not either. Oh, let's see what else
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: we got. 49451. Cowboys in 92 are the first team
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: to go 0-2 and win the Super Bowl after Emma
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Smith came back to the team after getting big money
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: for the time contract. We're just talking about 0-2. 0-2 traditionally...
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: is a 10% to 12% range getting to the postseason.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But it's been better lately. In the last four years,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I think there's about 30% of the teams have gone 0-2.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: And gotten in.
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: I wonder if that's partly because preseason they don't play,
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: so there's a couple garbage games early on.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I think they're schedule-dependent too, Ash. I think it's schedule-dependent,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: like who you're playing early on.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're playing in your division.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Now, if you're 0-2 and you played the Raiders... Chargers,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I'm talking to you.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Buccaneers, you played the Browns. You might have some bigger.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: You might be done already.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You might have some bigger issues. All right, let's get
• 26:45
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• 27:58
  Speaker 2: with the Seahawks game. I'll give you a reason in
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: a second, but I'll give you the number. It's 6 1⁄2,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: minus 6 1⁄2, Seahawks minus 6 1⁄2. I'll get more
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: in that second. Ashley, last week, 49451 is where you text,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: by the way. Last week, we had a 2-3 week.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't very good.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an improvement. We were 1-4 without you the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: week before with Anders.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: All right, okay. Well, and notice the morning show went 1-4.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: That's not good.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: It might be an Anders problem.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: 1-4 for the afternoon show as well. And a 2-3
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: week for Greg Ball. It has been a rough start
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: early on for said shows around. In fact, let's take
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: a quick peek. Overall, Chuck Powell, 4-6 overall. Greg Bell's show, 5-5.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: We're 3-7. Softee and Fane are 3-7. Fane, I do believe.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Let me double check this. Yes, I can confirm. Fane
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: is winless.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: 0-4.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not much better. I'm 1-5. Chuck's 1-4. Ashley is 3-1.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: That's right. Damn right. The only person... above 500 right now.
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: And, you know, if it weren't for the terrible weather
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: in Chicago, I think that we would have gotten two
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: more right.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Well, let's look at what happened last week, shall we? Like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I took Chicago minus three against Minnesota.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I'd take that pick again. Yeah. I would take that
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: pick again. I would take that every day. You got
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a win. That was a loss. You got a win
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: with Detroit at Buffalo over 53 and a half. That
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: was a chase early win on Thursday. Thank you very much.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: Fact.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Fact. I took a win, Ole Miss plus three against LSU.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: That's a fact. That's a win.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: That was a fun one.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That was really fun on every level, and I took that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Ashley took Minnesota and Chicago over 48. So we had
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: two going on that game.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a low-scoring game. Over 48 should have happened.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: They scored almost 60 by themselves the week before.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: That didn't happen.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: No one saw nine.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I had Miami, the Canes of Miami. Hurricanes. I had
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: them minus 20.5 at Wake Forest, and that was cruising
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to a win. At 20 and a half, I had
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: it before the first half was over, and then Mario
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: decided he wanted to mess around a little bit, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Jake Dicker decided he wanted to have his team show up,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and so I would probably take that one again.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably rude on both of their parts.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I'll be on it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Do what we expect from you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Please. There's times I can look back and go, yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that's probably not a good pick.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I can see that, but even if I look at these,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: San Diego State plus 13 at UCLA is the only
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: pick I'd probably have second thoughts on this year.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. I can see that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: So Seattle minus six and a half. Seahawks at the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. Marcus Mariota is going to start. The Seahawks
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: are going to kick their ass. It's as simple as that.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: There's nothing you need to know other than I think
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the line's going to go up during the week. So
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I'll take six and a half right now. Seahawks win
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: by a touchdown. We win. Simple as that. Touchdown extra point.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any overthinking here. Look at what
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: this team's doing right now. Hell, you can make an
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: argument Washington won't even score seven points. I wouldn't be
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: surprised if that happens.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, scary Terry McLaurin. He ain't going to do
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: nothing with Marcus Mariota. He's not doing anything anyway. Can't
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: run the football.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: That defense is going to eat him alive.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: They're going to keep stacking.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: They're going to stack stuff. They're going to stack stuff.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Stacking stuff and winning.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: If you want to vote on this... Fact, 49451, Seahawks
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: minus six and a half at the Washington Commanders at
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: 10 a.m. If you disagree, fiction49451, you think the Commanders
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: will either win or cover. I would say this might
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: be an absolute, and I don't say this often, lock.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Thank him later, folks.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you're thanking me next Monday. But if I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: was you, You got this. This is it. This gets
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: us back on track.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: I like this.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Gets us back going on. This will be win number
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: two on the year. I thought about chasing, but Chuck
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: already took the game. Or Travis, I guess, took the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: game this morning. Which, after talking to Sandell, LA minus
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: six and a half against the Giants, only 51% agreed
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: I think the Rams are out to prove something tonight.
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: I do, too.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I think we all would like to see that not happen. Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Well, yes and no.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: We're also stunned to see Greg took an Army game.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, he didn't take one last week, which
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: I thought was really weird.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Did he not? No.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I thought maybe he was ill or something.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I was worried. He had three picks.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Not one of them on Army.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That is weird.
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Well, he took them this week, and we took again
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Seattle minus six and a half at Washington. Fact, 49451.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Damn right. You want to win a $ 1, 000 weekly prize?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: This will get you one win and one entry right
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: off the get-go by texting fact to 49451. If you
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: text fiction.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Well, then you hate the Seahawks and pretty much a
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: non-American thing to do. We don't like you either, then, probably.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You're probably a fan of the Oregon Ducks and the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I would assume so. It's the only thing that makes sense.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Or the San Francisco 49ers.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: Ew.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Ew.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Ew.
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: Ew.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Let me just double check if we're getting bounce backs.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I think we are.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Just double check. Oh, okay.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: I see how you do it. You do it, like, logistically.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: I just look and.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't have... Oh, yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KDR. We received your text of fact for the Monday.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: What if I texted fiction for my own pick? That
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: would have been bad. Yeah, you're going to bounce back
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: if you spell it right. One more time. Seahawks minus
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: six and a half at Washington. Fact 49451. Softie next.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: All righty then.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: We head down south. Interstate 5. Cruising through Fife.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: What the hell is Fife?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Fife.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about this, man.
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: You know, just no drinking.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Until the show's over. Oh, well, that's a Tuesday policy,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: not a Monday policy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday policy. A Monday policy is way different
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: than that. And we head to the Emerald Queen Casino
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: where Dave Softy Mahler is standing by, getting ready for
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: a little Monday night football with the Rams of L.A.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: and Aaron Donald. Big 99's back, Dave.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Big 99.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: How much do you think? Let's go to VenueKings.com right now.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: How much are tickets on VenueKings.com to get in the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: door for tonight's game against the Giants?
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: That's a Giants, probably travel well, $ 100? $ 79. Ooh, $ 79.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: That's why Kevin Demoff was all over social media begging
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Rams fans to buy tickets.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Here's a link.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Chuck Arnold did something like that?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. No.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I hope to see everybody, all the 12s at Lumen.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Here's a link to buy seats.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I thought, well, first of all, SoFi, it's worse for
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the Chargers than it is for the Rams.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: No question.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: But it's not great for the Rams either. No. How about,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: once again, yesterday, the Seahawks playing a home game in
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Glendale with the chance of Seahawks being heard through the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: TV the entire game yesterday?
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Millen was there, as you know. He
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: was on your show talking about it, and he said
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: it was 60-40 Cardinal fans.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Which I'm like, okay, that's still pretty bad if you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a Cardinal fan.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Horrible, yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: To have 40. Can you imagine going to Lumenfield for
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: a Seahawks game and it's 40% opposing fans in the building?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: What do you think it was?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You bang your head against your seat the whole game.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: What do you think it was December of 23 for Pittsburgh?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: It was bad. It was bad.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: 30%, maybe 25%. They were loud.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: They were loud.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: And the worst part about it is that the visiting
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: sideline is opposite. The cameras.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: So they're showing that side of the field the entire game.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: and they take up the lower bowl right behind the
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh bench, and it looks worse than it is.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I think there was that game, and I think, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: don't know, it was the 49ers later on or somebody else.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: There was a couple games that year, but that Pittsburgh game,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I remember. And I remember we had a conversation, some
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: of the guys in the press box, like, this is
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: not going to fly. Like, this is kind of a bad, like,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you know, and nobody was thinking, well, they're going to
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: fire Pete. But, you know, you look back, one of
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: the reasons you started to lose that home. I remember
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you guys did a, Dick had that number forever. Remember
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: how bad the home field advantage was for.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: A while here? It was terrible.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: They were a 500 team.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: If not under $ 500. So the next Seahawks home game
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: is against the Chargers. Okay, that's great. Tickets are $ 292
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: to get in the door.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Lord.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: $ 292 for the Chargers. $ 327 for the Niners. It's unbelievable
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: how much tickets are going for. And by the way,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: if you're ever buying tickets on Venue Kings, use code
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Mike for a discount, by the way.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Mike.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Mike. Mike.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Like Mike Linebacker? Oh, Mike Holmgren.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: In honor of Mike Holmgren.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Okay. I just did hardcore football, so I had Mike
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Linebacker on my mind.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I get it, man.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: That was fun yesterday watching that game. They sure put
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: a whooping on those guys, didn't they?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: That second half, I mean, three real drives is all
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals had. They were all like three and outs.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy what they did. And then the screw
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you drive at the end where they just mashed it
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: down their face. I love that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing. They weren't mashing it down their
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: face with Jadarian Price. Nope. They weren't mashing it down
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: their face with Zach Charbonnet.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: They weren't mashing it down their face with last year's
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: version of Kenny Walker.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: They weren't even mashing it down their face with George Alani.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: They were doing it with Emmanuel Wilson.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a Cardinal, you're like, really? Like,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: how freaking just despondent are you? Like, I'm thinking about
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that sad guy walk on Twitter. Yeah. The GIF. Just
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: putting his head down, just walking off all sad. It's like, geez, man, really?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Well, a couple of the shots they show after a play,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: like the tight shots of the Cardinal D lineman, who,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: by the way, rotate out. It's not like you're playing
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: every snap. But even then, they were just gassed. Like,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: we're just, I mean, just, what was that? That was
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: an 11, 16-play drive.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: 16 plays, 10 minutes, and I believe 14 seconds.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: It's really funny because if you go to, like, NFL.com
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: or the NFL media website or whatever, they had it
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: as a 20-play drive because I think they were counting
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: all the penalties.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: They count penalties, yeah.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: So, you know, we're not counting penalties. But some of
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: those plays, though, you know, they had to actually run
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: around for a little bit until the play got called dead.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Right? So to be out there for 20 snaps of
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: the football is just, God, man, I would be– if
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I'm doing a show in Arizona– I am just unloading
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: on these guys right now for that drive.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: How about this?
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Terrible.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Just when you think you get that win that first week,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, look at us. Look at us.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: You know what happened yesterday? They got reminded once again
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of the Arizona Cardinals.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: And they got reminded again that they cannot beat the
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Seahawks in Arizona. Nope. They've only beaten them one time,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: one time since 2012, and that was the COVID year
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: of 2020.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: When there were 1,500 people on the stadium. Meaning they
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: have not beaten the Seahawks at home in front of
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: a full house since Russell Wilson's first game as a Seahawk.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: And Seattle almost won that one.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: That's right. That's the game that Doug Baldwin got his
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: teeth knocked out.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I was standing there, Russell. What just flew out of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: his mouth? Turned out it was his teeth.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: It's a molar. Anyway, we'll chat about that a lot.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Hugh's back a little more at 4. A little fun
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: with audio. We've got Giants Rams at 5 o'clock from
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: the Emerald Queen Casino. See you. All right, bud.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.