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Jim Bowden's Division by Division Trade Deadline Buyers and Sellers · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Trade season, Jim Bowden's pumping out articles in the Athletics
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  Speaker 1: to make sure you check those out. He's got something
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  Speaker 1: for your team somewhere, Okay, including his latest articles. So
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  Speaker 1: let's hit some divisions here. Let's start with the National
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  Speaker 1: League West. Where are we at, JB give us a
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  Speaker 1: few of the buy sell or in between moments here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Los Angeles Dodgers, first of all, have
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  Speaker 2: just been very consistent, which is their entire plan was
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  Speaker 2: to build a world championship club in the offseason so
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  Speaker 2: when they got the trade deadline, they wouldn't have to
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  Speaker 2: overpay for a need. So their whole goal was, We're
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  Speaker 2: going to build enough depth that when we have injuries,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna win anyway. If Will Smith goes down, we've
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  Speaker 2: got Dalton rushing. If two starting pitchers go down, we
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  Speaker 2: have Justin Robleski and Emmachian and so you know that's
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  Speaker 2: where the Dodgers stand. And so they've been very clear
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  Speaker 2: with everybody they're going to get Edwin Diaz backed, to
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  Speaker 2: add another power arm in the back of the bullpen,
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  Speaker 2: eventually get Blake Snell back, Tyler Glass now back, So
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Dodgers keep telling everyone that you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're not expected to be players here at all, and
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  Speaker 2: they're They've told people, they've tried to separate themselves. If
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  Speaker 2: Trek Scooble has been traded, I don't buy it, just
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  Speaker 2: because they have so much depth in starting pitching and
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  Speaker 2: minor league outfielders that they can yawn and get Schooble.
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  Speaker 2: They can outbid people for schoobl with players that really
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  Speaker 2: don't even fit on their future twenty six man rosters.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I don't think they can be ignored. Look,
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  Speaker 2: the Padres are kind of in an interesting position. I
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  Speaker 2: kind of love this because Aj Preller is in that
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  Speaker 2: spot where in between being a buyer and a seller,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot to buy. He does have some
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  Speaker 2: minor league arms, he does have Ethan Sallas down there,
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  Speaker 2: but really isn't loaded like he once was. And so
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  Speaker 2: that's where you know, the talk started of oh, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's time to move Mason, Miller and Tournam into four
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  Speaker 2: players and try to plug some holes not just for
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  Speaker 2: this year but for future years. And so you know,
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  Speaker 2: AJ's so intriguing because throughout his career he's never been
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  Speaker 2: able to never been afraid to trade the best prospects.
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  Speaker 2: James Woods, cj Abrams, et cetera. Never been afraid to
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  Speaker 2: trade the veteran players as well at the right time
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  Speaker 2: his star players. So I find him to be the
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  Speaker 2: most intriguing. You know, Arizona's barely staying alive here. I
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  Speaker 2: expect them to do their normal go get a bullpen arm,
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  Speaker 2: maybe get a left handed power bat, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: not much. And then you got the Giants and Rockies.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to try to sell what they have.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, okay, all right, I mean the Giants of the
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  Speaker 3: Rugs after sell, I'm sorry. They they need to try
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  Speaker 3: to figure it out one way or the other. And
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  Speaker 3: Buster Posey doesn't have a lot of things. Jim, Let's
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  Speaker 3: go to the NL East since we just pounded the NLS.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the nlast because there's there's there's a
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  Speaker 3: race shaping up in the NLES. After the Braves jumped
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  Speaker 3: out to such a big lead, the Phillies and the
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  Speaker 3: Marlins are right on their heels. So how many teams
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  Speaker 3: will buy and how many team besides the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's a really fun race. I've
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  Speaker 2: been told by everyone except the Mets. At they're buyers,
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  Speaker 2: So that's the answer to that, at least as of today.
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  Speaker 2: A lot's going to change between now and August third.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is fluid, as you guys know, but we all
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  Speaker 2: know that the Phillies would like to get a right
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  Speaker 2: handed bat. They would like to get another back of
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  Speaker 2: the rotation type of starter. Atlanta's looking for a starting
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  Speaker 2: pitcher that can pitch Game two of a playoff game,
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  Speaker 2: so they're trying to go probably bigger than the other
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  Speaker 2: teams in the division. The Miami Marlins are looking for
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote offense. Peter Bendix is out there trying to
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  Speaker 2: be aggressive to do that. He's got a loaded farm
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  Speaker 2: system of which to work from. They really believe in
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  Speaker 2: this team, and I don't blame him. One of the
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  Speaker 2: best records in baseball since June first, they look real
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  Speaker 2: to me. The Nationals are out there trying to get
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  Speaker 2: bullpen help. They know they've got the offense to compete,
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  Speaker 2: so they're going to try to get some more pitching
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  Speaker 2: to try to stay in this thing as long as
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  Speaker 2: they possibly can. And then look, the Mets are going
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  Speaker 2: to sell. I'm sure you guys saw the tremendous interview
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  Speaker 2: that Joel Sherman and John Hayman did with Mets owner
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  Speaker 2: Steve Cohen. But one of the real telling things is
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  Speaker 2: you When Steve Cohen was asked if they're going to sell,
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  Speaker 2: his immediate response was, what are the odds on us
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  Speaker 2: making the playoffs right now?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 2: John Hayman didn't want to answer that question, so he said, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe in that, because you know, the Mets
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  Speaker 2: were only he only had a five percent chance a
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  Speaker 2: few years back, and they made it to the NLCS,
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  Speaker 2: which was a good argument, but if he had let
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  Speaker 2: Steve Cohen finish, Steve Cohen was going to make the
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  Speaker 2: point of course we're gonna sell. We have no option
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  Speaker 2: but to sell. So for them, you know, they've got
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  Speaker 2: to pray every night that Freddie Peralta can turn it
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  Speaker 2: around and give us four good starts in July, and,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, four good starts in July get them traded.
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  Speaker 2: But they've got a lot of relievers to go. A
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  Speaker 2: Jay Minter is a guy everybody's talking about. Railey another
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  Speaker 2: guy that's out there that's going to be alable. Luke
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  Speaker 2: Weaver is going to be out there. So they got
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  Speaker 2: relievers to sell and if you're the Mets, let's be realistic,
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  Speaker 2: you need to listen on everybody, you know, maybe not
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  Speaker 2: aj Ewing and Carson Binge and Nolan McLain. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's a few young players to hold on to. But
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  Speaker 2: David Stearns is under a lot of pressure. And even
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  Speaker 2: though Steve Cohen said, well, he's gonna get the five
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  Speaker 2: years if you listen to the interview again with John
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  Speaker 2: Ayman and Joel Sherman, he kind of backtracked that after
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  Speaker 2: a while, and you know, basically he made it clear
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  Speaker 2: he's going to get this offseason and maybe next year,
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  Speaker 2: but after that his jobs online. It just is he
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  Speaker 2: likes the way he pivots and adapt. But David Stearns
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  Speaker 2: has to turn this thing around, and he's certainly going
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  Speaker 2: to get this trade deadline in the off season to
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  Speaker 2: try to do it. But I'm not sure a year
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  Speaker 2: from now, if they don't turn it around, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure he's still gonna have a job with the New
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  Speaker 2: York Mets. So a lot of pressure for him at
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  Speaker 2: this trade deadline.
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  Speaker 5: All right now, we're just gonna jump to the NL Central,
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  Speaker 5: which I think is going to have the most moves
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  Speaker 5: either leaving or coming in of any of the divisions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you on that, although you
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  Speaker 2: know with the Milwaukee Brewers, don't they just have to
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  Speaker 2: call the minor leagues and just promote people? But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're out there. We know Matt Arnold
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  Speaker 2: has been executive year two years in a row. He's
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  Speaker 2: out there looking for a pitcher. He's looking for a bat.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, a lot of times, his answers are
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  Speaker 2: right there in his own farm system. They're the team
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  Speaker 2: to beat, as you guys know, and they're a real threat.
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  Speaker 2: Cubs are out there trying to get pitching, starting pitching,
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  Speaker 2: relief pitching. I think Jed Hoyer is going to be aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: I think that they match up really well with the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox. If the Red Sox try to sell, if
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  Speaker 2: in fact Sonny Gray and or role As Chapman are moved,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Cubs will be players there. But I
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  Speaker 2: also think you'll see them in on all the starting
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  Speaker 2: pitchers that are available out there, so I'm expecting them.
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  Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Pirates tell me run prevention is their goal.
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  Speaker 2: That means bullpen or upgrade defensively is what ben Cherrington
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  Speaker 2: their GM is looking to do. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 2: the Reds are going to do. I really haven't gotten
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  Speaker 2: a response to them. I know what they should do.
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  Speaker 2: They should sell. I don't think this team is going
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  Speaker 2: to be able to make a run and be an
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  Speaker 2: October team, and I think they'd be or off right now.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many teams looking for a right hand hitter,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I think to maximize the value of Spencer Steeer,
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  Speaker 2: this would be the right time to do that. They've
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  Speaker 2: got a couple of back of the rotation type starters
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  Speaker 2: they can offer. But I do think the Reds maybe
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  Speaker 2: should take advantage of being a seller in this division.
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  Speaker 2: And for the Cardinals, I think they're real. Let's see
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  Speaker 2: if I'm Bloom can go get them some help with
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  Speaker 2: another starting pitcher as well. So it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: fun division to watch the rest of the way. But
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, I think they'll be very active
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  Speaker 2: come August.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jim.
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  Speaker 3: Before we go to the American League, the Reds the
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  Speaker 3: resume of the playoffs last year, Jim, what happened? Why
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  Speaker 3: would they sell? They just got Hunter Green back. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do you see this for a lot of teams. They're
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  Speaker 3: eight games out I think of the wildcard, and they're
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  Speaker 3: not their last place. But that's the one when you
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  Speaker 3: said because going into this year, remember, oh, the Reds
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  Speaker 3: are going to be so good, They're going to be
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  Speaker 3: so much better. And now here we are in July
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  Speaker 3: and or back to the same old Reds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same old Reds. And look, they don't
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  Speaker 2: have good enough offense, they're not good enough defensively. They
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  Speaker 2: certainly have the makings of a really good starting rotation
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  Speaker 2: with two number one starters in Chase Burns and Hunter Green.
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  Speaker 2: But I think if you're the Reds, you know, let's
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  Speaker 2: plan on twenty seven. How are we going to turn
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  Speaker 2: this around? I mean, even if you get hot, you're
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  Speaker 2: not a contending team. You're not good enough. You're just not.
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  Speaker 2: But you certainly have a starting rotation to build upon.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to get the position players figured out, and
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  Speaker 2: to do that take advantage of this deadline. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's not a lot of sellers out there, as we
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  Speaker 2: just talked about Mets, Giants, Rockies, Angels. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: a handful of Royals, there's a handful as of Now,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. If you're the red you've got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of pieces. So let's try to turn those pieces. Turn
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Steer into three guys. Get a couple of guys
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  Speaker 2: for Brady Singer. Listen on Abbit and Lodolo to see
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  Speaker 2: if somebody wants to overpay for left handed starting pitching.
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  Speaker 2: This is a really good seller's market. And if I'm
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  Speaker 2: the Reds, you know, let's quickly try to pivot and
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  Speaker 2: plan for twenty seven and beyond.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well let's go to al because you have Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Steer going to team in the Al East, right, So
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  Speaker 3: let's hear your Al East breakdown on what these teams need.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the New York Yankees, obviously we all know,
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  Speaker 2: could use some help at catcher, right hand hit her,
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  Speaker 2: maybe to work with Austin Wells. Obviously they'd like to
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  Speaker 2: get a guy like Aveley Ritchman. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen. They really want to back end reliever to
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  Speaker 2: go with ben Ar, high leverage kind of guy, which
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  Speaker 2: makes sense. I obviously have been a big proponent of
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  Speaker 2: getting a big right handed bat. I think they're too
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  Speaker 2: left handed. I've said that all year. I think that
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  Speaker 2: they get exposed that way, and whether that be third base,
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  Speaker 2: left field, you know, I don't care where that goes,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think another bat for the New York
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  Speaker 2: Yankees is extremely important. I think the Red Sox should sell,
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  Speaker 2: but they're close enough. Craig Brezel's jobs on the line.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's going to unless he falls back
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  Speaker 2: and he's got to August third to stay in this
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  Speaker 2: wildcard race. He can own the trade deadline if in
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  Speaker 2: fact he sells, because Sonny Gray and a role as
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  Speaker 2: Chapman and Jared Durant is gonna bring a ton I'm
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  Speaker 2: almost feeling the same way with them as I do.
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  Speaker 2: The Reds maybe take advantage of this trade deadline, but
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of complicated just because of Craig Breslow's situation.
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  Speaker 2: I think he feels if he can go get a
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  Speaker 2: bat or two and can maybe get one of those
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  Speaker 2: wild card spots or be in the race in the
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  Speaker 2: last week of the season, perhaps that buys him another year.
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  Speaker 2: The Oriels Michaelias is out there looking for starting pitching.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people want him to throw the tavel in.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to same kind of reason
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  Speaker 2: as Breslo. I think he knows that his job's on
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  Speaker 2: the line as well. So I think Michaelias is gonna
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  Speaker 2: continue to chase starting pitching. And whether that be you know,
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  Speaker 2: read Debt Meer's of the Angels or Robbie Ray of
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco Giants. You know, I think he definitely
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  Speaker 2: could land When then the Toronto Blue Jays, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they need a right hand hitter in the back of
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  Speaker 2: the rotation starter. I obviously first and foremost need to
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  Speaker 2: get healthy. But they're another team that's kind of intriguing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, down the stretch. If they were to fall
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  Speaker 2: further out of it August third, would they consider moving
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  Speaker 2: Lewis Varlin and who's been the Mason Miller of the
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  Speaker 2: American League this year if somebody wants to drastically overpay
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  Speaker 2: and just kind of reboot and try to get back
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  Speaker 2: in twenty seven. So they're a team to watch. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they'll do that, just because of the parody
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  Speaker 2: right now in the American League. And the fact is,
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  Speaker 2: if Toronto gets in and you've got Dylan Cees and
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  Speaker 2: you Savage is your first two starters, and you have
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  Speaker 2: experience of being in the World Series last year. Who knows,
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  Speaker 2: you could end up running the table anyway. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they'll do that, but that's certainly something to watch.
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  Speaker 5: I got a question about the Yankees Wanning Ryan Jefferson.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously we know the Yankees have a certain profile on
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  Speaker 5: offense that Jeffers would hit. Would the Yankees or would
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  Speaker 5: you as a GM go away from the profile that
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  Speaker 5: you love the value of receiving that Austin Wells, Ali Sanchez,
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  Speaker 5: j c Oscara are giving you and they value that
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  Speaker 5: so high, would a team like the Yankees be willing
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  Speaker 5: to go away from that for Jeffers, who's just a
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  Speaker 5: little bit above average receiving wise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at you real. I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: what I've been told that it is real that they
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  Speaker 2: have interest in him. That's not just rumors that are
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  Speaker 2: out there. So I would tell you that I would
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  Speaker 2: believe it. Yes, that you know the Yankees in Minnesota twins,
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  Speaker 2: I have talked about it, So because of that, I
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  Speaker 2: would say the answer is yes. Now, I think the
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  Speaker 2: Yankees as usual talk to everybody about everybody. That's what
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  Speaker 2: Brian Cashman's modus OPERENDI has always been. He does his
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  Speaker 2: due diligence talking to all the other twenty nine teams
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  Speaker 2: on a regular basis. But I think when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the lack of production and we watch them break
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  Speaker 2: their record and strikeouts the last two nights against Tampa Bay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think they've got to be realistic and
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  Speaker 2: try to find ways to improve the offense. And certainly
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  Speaker 2: they're not getting exactly what they want offensively from the
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  Speaker 2: catcher position.
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  Speaker 3: So it's amazing how all these teams have holes. There's
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  Speaker 3: like no perfect team, I guess, not even the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: But let's go to a division near and dear to
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  Speaker 3: my heart, Jim, you just mentioned Ryan Jeffers getting traded.
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  Speaker 3: You have the Twins selling. The Twins continue to say
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  Speaker 3: they're not selling. The Al Central is fast because everyone
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  Speaker 3: is kind other than the Royals is kind of lumped
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  Speaker 3: in there, real close to each other. So what's gonna
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  Speaker 3: happen in the Al Central and why are the White
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  Speaker 3: Socks going to win this division?
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  Speaker 1: Jim?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's let's start with the White Sox. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Chris gets was very clear with me on the award
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  Speaker 2: winning Front Office Show and Serious XM Sunday's ten to one.
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  Speaker 2: I had to promote that really quickly, but Chris was
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  Speaker 2: very clear. He said, look, if we're in the race
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  Speaker 2: after the All Star break, we're going to be buyers,
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  Speaker 2: and they're gonna be buyers for pitching. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: if the Red Sox sell, go get a roll this
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  Speaker 2: Chapman right. I mean, I absolutely love that fit for
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  Speaker 2: the Chicago White Sox. Maybe you make the deal bigger
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  Speaker 2: and get Sunny Gray too. I would love that fit
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  Speaker 2: for Chicago. But the White Socks aren't going anywhere. They're
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  Speaker 2: a really fun team to watch. They they've got a
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  Speaker 2: legitimate chance of winning the division. They're going to get
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  Speaker 2: more to talking Murakami here back soon. That's going to
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  Speaker 2: be huge. Dad. That power to the lineup. I love
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  Speaker 2: the energy every day that lineup brings. Look, I was
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: a fan when Chris gets got hired. I was in
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the minority. Thank goodness. He remembers that. I think this
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: is the trade deadline where he can make his mark
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: because he's got a chance. For the Guardians, they got
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: to get bat We all know that. I don't know
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: where they're gonna get it, how they're going to get it,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: but Hopefully they're going to get Jasira Mairis back off
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: the IL. They're going to get a Home Martinez off
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the IL as well. That's gonna help. But I would
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: love to see them go get another bat. You know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: it's funny when you look at the Cleveland Chicago race.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: They're just opposites, right. Chicago's got the much better offense
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: top to bottom, Cleveland's got the much better pitching top
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: to bottom. And then they play each other and they're
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: all one run games. I mean, I absolutely love that matchup.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a fun race to the end.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: To your point with the Twins, Twins get mad at
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: me every time I put out there that they should
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: trade Joe Ryan. I stand by that, and I stand
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: by that for this reason. I don't think the Twins
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: are going to play on October. That's number one, that's
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: my judgment. Number two, I don't think they're gonna extend
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Joe Ryan. He's a free agent at the end of
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. So your trade value for Joe Ryan
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: is never going to be higher than it is right now.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get the same return in December
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: at the winter meetings. That you're gonna get right now,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and with so many teams in need, like the Atlanta Braves,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you've got a chance to go get two stud young
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: pitchers that you control for six years from Atlanta. And
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: whether that be can KEMINITTI, whether that be Jr. Richie
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: did he er for one days? The Braves have the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: starters they can give you. You're Minnesota, You're not gonna
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: extend them, so for a year and a half of Ryan,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You're really gonna hold on to them. It doesn't make
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: sense to me, But look, I get it. If I'm
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Zol and I'm the owner and I'm only a
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: few games back in the wildcard, I don't want to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: throw the towel in. I understand that let's revisit this
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: on August first, second, or third. In the meantime, I
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: think they should sell. We'll see now. In terms of
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: the Tigers, Scott Harris, he wants to win. He's gonna
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: do everything he can to stay in this race. And
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: again the schooble stuff's gonna go down to the buzzer.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: But if they fall back, School's gonna get traded and
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: he'll be the headliner at the trade deadline, but I
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: know one thing, they don't want that to be the scenario.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: They want to be in it. And for Kansas City,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: it's cell time. So whether that's Seth Lugo or Michael
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Walker or Lucas Erseeg that's probably the three big names
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: that pro probably have a chance of getting moved and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: they're going to be a very interesting team to watch
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: going forward. They need a lot of help on the
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: offensive side of the game, and I think they're going
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: to concentrate on that.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Another division that's bunched up is the Al West. Houston's
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: gotten it back into this race. The Mariners haven't pulled away,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: The A's have kind of we're up top, they've fallen down.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: The Rangers are right there. The Angels, obviously, are the
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Angels there the rebuilding since twenty ten. Jim as the
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Sign so eloquently told us the other day, but what about.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: The Al West.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Who's what's the moves?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: You see?
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: They can win this division?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Seattle's gonna blow everybody away. I think they've
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: been very generous to let everybody stay in the race
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: here on July the eighth. By the time we get
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to September fifteenth, it'll be over. They'll already have pop
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the champagne because their starting pitching is just too good.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: And at some point, you know, Kate Anderson is ready.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I've talked to several scouts are watching him pitch. Some
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: scouts tell me he's the second best starting pitcher on
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the Mariners major league team right now. That's how good
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: he is. So you're seven deep, and that doesn't even
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: mention Ryan Sloan. So they're eight starting pitchers deep. Starting
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: pitching windu in August in September. That's when you separate yourself.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: That's when Seattle will separate themselves, in my opinion. We'll
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: see how that plays out. They're going to have to
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: make that uncomfortable decision. If they're not able to trade
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo for a relief pitcher and a right hand
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: hitter like they'd like to, they're going to have to
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: have that difficult conversation with him at some point to
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: say you're going to pitch out of the bullpen the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: rest of the way. But they've got to decide on
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: their five best starters, and that's who's got to be
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: there every single day. The starting pitching rotation. The pitchers
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: have told the Mariners they don't want to go with
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: a six man rotation. They don't love the piggyback and
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: so because of that, at some point, Jerry to Poto
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and Dan Wilson have to make that final call put
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: someone in the bullpen. They need to trade for a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: high leverage reliever to help Muno's in the back end,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and they also need a right hand hitter that can
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: mash left handed pitching. I'm expecting Jerry to Poto to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: get both. I'm expecting him to be aggressive. Dana Brown
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and the Astros are looking for a left hand hitting
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: outfielder that has been his focus, and like normal, Dana
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: will also probably trade for a reliever or two because
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: that's what he does. But that's kind of where they're
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: trying to do. Thank goodness, there's a change in general
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: managers with the Angels because Perimnassian wasn't even going to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: listen or argue with his owner about the owner not
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: one in deal Jose Soriano, Debt Meers or Joe Adell.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: John mose Loac was brought in by President Molly Jolly.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: He has met with Artie Moreno. He's being paid to
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: try to fix this and assess where they're at. Knowing Moe,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you know he's gonna look at this team and explain
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: to the owner why you need to turn Debtmers into
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: three players, Soriano into three players, Adele into three players,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and turn those three guys into nine players to help
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: build the future so that they could be a fun
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: seller when it comes and goes. Chris Young, the GM
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and president of the Rangers, has made it very clear
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: to me that he's looking for or offense. Of course,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: they're struggling right now with both Wyat Langford and Corey
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Seger on the injured list, but even when they come back,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: he knows they need another bat. I would expect them
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to find a way to get a hitter between now
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: in August.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Third Tim, great job on all these lists. By the way,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that we give you
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: a compliment. And the shameless plug. I love the shameless plug.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here for the shameless plug. Any chance you get
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  Speaker 3: to throw a shameless plug.
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  Speaker 7: In there, I do it for him is athletic, I know,
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  Speaker 7: I know.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: So it was awesome. It was very That was very
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: very well played, by the way, but I did have
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: one question. You mentioned you said that Mariners don't love
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the piggyback. I thought they loved the piggyback. When I
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: said this on the show, I got absolutely annihilated on
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Twitter for saying, oh that this doesn't work and all
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the pitchers are happy with this, and they all wanted
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: to give up their start so Luis Castillo could get
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: some any like are you kidding me? Let's be real here.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: You've been in a clubhouse.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: You know it goes. Yeah, I do not it goes,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and look I understand it, and look I talked to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto about it, and I understand his position with
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo because of how long he's been in the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: big leagues. He's been an all star pitcher, he's had
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the long track record, et cetera, et cetera. And you know,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: they wanted to try to find a way to not
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: upset one of the six. But unfortunately, you know, that's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: why Dan Wilson and Jerry Depoto get those seven figure contracts, Right,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You've got to make those tough calls. And the tough
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: call is, you know, the starting pitchers have made it
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: clear they don't want to go to a six millon rotation.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: So you know, to me, it's very clear what you do.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: You keep your best five starters and the other guy
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: has to go to the pen, whether he likes it
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: or not. I know you got to handle with kick gloves,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: but I also think they were trying to stall a
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: little bit of time to see if they couldn't turn
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo into a reliever and a right hand hitter.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: So if they could trade Castillo, free up a little
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: bit of money, get that reliever, get the right hand hitter.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: They know they've got Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the miners to give them depth. There's an injury, so
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: by stalling, they were hoping to be able to do
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it this way. But after the All Star break they're
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: gonna have to make the decision.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: You take the kid gloves off when it's time for playoffs, Jim.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Kid gloves are for teams who are trying to just
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: suffice everybody. You can have kid gloves in Washington and
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: places that are rebuilding. My question, and I don't need
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: kid gloves for this for the All Star because we
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: heard Zach Wheeler, do you have a pathway for Justin
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Robleski and Zach Wheeler to be All Stars since they're
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: both deserving.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: No, but I mean they should have already been on there, Like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand, especially in the case of Wheeler.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, even his teammate Lozardo goes ahead of Wheeler, Like,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: what was that based on? You know, I understand lazardro
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I wont him in the All Star Game, but how
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: does he get chosen ahead of Wheeler? That makes no sense.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Number two, we had the Legends pick, so I thought
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the Legends pick were like today they announced justin Verland,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: there's a Legends pick. That made sense. Right, He's not
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: an All Star this year, but he's a legend, so
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: let's put him on there. Albert Pooles, we did it too.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Miguel Cabrera to Clayton Kershaw, we did it too. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: get it. I like it. You know your career is ending,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: We're gonna give you one last All Star Game. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: like that. I'm sentimental. I get it. But Bryce Harper
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: at aged thirty three with twenty homers, who arguably could
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: have been an All Star anyway. In the conversation, I mean,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and that's your Legend pick. He's four years younger than
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler. If Harper's a legend pick, why isn't Zach
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Wheeler a legend pick ahead of Harper? Wheeler's going to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame like Harper is Like I didn't
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: understand Harper and Lozardo ahead a Wheeler even and their Phillies.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: But find a way the games in Philadelphia. Baseball knew
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: last year to put Jacob Mazerowski on the All Star Game,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: even though he hadn't pitched enough to be there. We
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: all get why the games in Philly. Zach Wheeler has
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to be on this team. Find a way to put
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: him on. So I don't know how you do it,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: but you know, in the best interest of baseball clause
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: or whatever you want to do. This is an exhibition game.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Wheeler has to be on it, and Rapluski deserves to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: be on it.
• 24:59
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• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Wheeler's been one of the best pitchers
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: since he came back. Also, the Philly season turned around
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: when he came back. No, yeah, I mean I know
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: there were other things going on there, But for Bryce,
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  Speaker 1: we want to see him in the derby. He wasn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: getting necessarily selected to the All Star team initially, right,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: so you get him in because he's not going to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: do the Derby without the All Star selection.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: That's one.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Kratz, can you help me out here with Wheeler because
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to get into this on a segment later.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But he basically said it's bs that he's going to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: pitch on the weekend, so then they won't consider you.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Didn't this happen last year too with Christopher Sanchez. It's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: like you won't get in consideration if you're going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: pitch on the weekend. Even if he says I would
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: pitch in the All Star Game, right like he said,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I would pitch this weekend and then do an inning
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: as my bullpen day.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: So what am I missing here?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Like? Why can't a call be made to the league
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: like hey, I know you have this exception or this
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: clause for the weekend pitchers. Kratz, am I wrong here
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: where they're like weekend pitcher, you're out. But he can
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: call and be like, scratch it, I'm good, I'll pitch Wells.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: The Sunday is pitcher is not eligible, the Saturday pitcher is,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: so there's no rule against that. So I mean there's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: there's no excuses here. I mean Wheeler has to be
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: on there, and by the way, even if Wheeler was
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the Sunday pitcher, you can name him and then he
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't pitch. But if he deserves to be on the team,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you can put him on the team and then not
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: pitch and let him be in Philadelphia to get the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: standing ovation and and the hat and the hat tip, right,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to make that happen. So, you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I think if you're Dave Dombrowski and you're Don Mattingly,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: you know you've got to call the commissioner, You've got
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to call the league, and you've got to say, hey, look,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: we got to find a way to make this happen.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Number One, because Zach Wheeler deserves to be on the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: team over several pitchers that are on the team. So
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: this is a snub that's inexcusable. And number two, it's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: in Philly. Above all that, I mean, it's there. There's
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: no excuse for Zach Wheeler not being on the All
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Star Game. It's embarrassing to the sport. The sport needs
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to fix it. They've done these kind of things in
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the past. So hopefully if foul Territory can bang the
• 28:09
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• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and make an adjustment.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Well, we all know why Bryce Harper got the Legends pick.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: It's because Rob Manfred wanted to be nice to him
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: and be good to him after they had their argument,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: we'll say, last year in the Philly Clubhouse. So let's
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: let's we all know why Bryce Harper got picked. He
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: should you make an argument he should have been on
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the team anyways with his twenty home runs of what
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: he's doing. And then also, here's the thing, Jim, that
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I have with all of this. Okay, Justin Verlander going
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame Legends pick cool, like, no problem,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and he announced his retirement. Okay, awesome, good for you,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: justin right off in the sunset, get one more hatchet,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: whatever you need.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: You deserve it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: You've had an unbelievable career, right, Bryce Harper is going
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame. We all know that one
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: more All Star game doesn't change things. But when you
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: start getting into eighty seven All Stars every year, Okay,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: and then GM's like yourself. If they go and they
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: go to their owner and they say, hey, we're gonna
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: sign whoever you want, let's use I'll use I don't
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: know whoever, Justin Robuski, right, he was an All Star
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: last year, mister owner, Oh, we can give him more
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: money because he was an All Star.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't do that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Then, Hall of Fame voting. This guy was the first
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: thing on the resume. Ten time All Star. Okay, it
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: shouldn't matter. If it should be just the numbers, right,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: it shouldn't be Well, he's a ten time All Star,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: so therefore he automatically gets my vote, right.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Because he didn't have to pitch on a Saturday.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: That's the thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: If we're gonna make all these rules and have all
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: these picks and have this and have that and blah
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: blah blah, then it shouldn't affect salary. It shouldn't affect
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame voting. It shouldn't affect a lot of things.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: But when one of the first questions you get when
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I talk to people, how many times did you make
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: the All Star? Did you win a World Series? Were
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: you an All Star? And how many times? And that's
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: those are the questions that people care about. So if
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: we're gonna make this meaningless exhibition, then it shouldn't count
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: for salaries and all in Hall of Fame voting, I'm sorry,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that's my little soapbox.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good a soapbox. I mean, I think the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: one thing to keep in mind though, a lot of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: players have that bonus if you make the All Star Team,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: So a lot of guys, and I believe Justin Verlander
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: also has a clause in there where now he's going
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to get a bonus for being on the All Star Team.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: So you know, there are benefits to the players for
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: being on there, you know, But in terms of you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: how many times Verlanders on the All Star Game, it
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't one war doesn't matter in his case, whether it
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: be the Hall of Fame or explaining us. And we're
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: all going to look at the last time they were
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: in the All Star Game and understand it was a
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: legends pick, right. We do that with Polls and Cabrera
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and Kershaw. But that kind of level player that's named
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: because of the legend, you know, it's you know, we
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: all understand what kind of player you are that's going
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to do that. Harper is the one that just doesn't
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: feel right because it's not like he's going to retire
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: anytime soon. It's not like his contract is up. He's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: thirty three years old. You know, that's not what the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: legend thing was supposed to be.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Four.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: The legend thing was supposed to be for the older player.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: That the only way they were gonna make it and
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: honor them was that you choose him with that clause.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: That's what Kershaw, Kaperer, and Poholz were. None of them
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: were all players that deserve to be on the All
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Star team. They got there because of that. That's why
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Verlander's on here. You know, next year Max Scherzer could
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: be the guy, or could have been this year. Paul
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Goldschmidt could have been a consideration. Harper, to me, didn't
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: make any sense. And by the way, he could have
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: been a replacement on the All Star team anyway and
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: gotten on there. But he could be an All Star
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: next year. So why are we using the legend for
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: him this year? Are we just guessing that at thirty
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: four next year he's not going to be an All Star?
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It just didn't fit. And then it doesn't feel right
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: because we're in the middle of a labor agreement and
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Harper's the one that told the commissioner to get the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: f out of our clubhouse, especially if you're got to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: talk about salary caps, So it doesn't feel right. It's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: not good optics either, to be honest, I mean, I
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: don't think that was the intent here, but it doesn't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: look good. It's just to me.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's other reasoning too, but the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: derby play is huge, right, Bryce Harper in the derby
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: in Philly that let's just finish with this. Do you
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: want Bryce Harper in the derby and Philly? I think
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: we would all agree that's gonna be fun, right, It's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the only way. It's the only way to get him there.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: He's not going if you don't make him the the exception,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And like AJ said, everyone's an All Star these days,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: so you just say, hey, you're an All Star, You're
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in the derby?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Should should?
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Real quick, I know we got to go. Should players
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: get their bonus if they're like Va Guerrero get named
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: and they don't go yes, okay, okay. That's why they're
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: eighty seven thousand All Stars. That's why there's seven thousand
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: All Stars because guys get their bonus and they say, Okay,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I got my fifty or one hundred grand, see what,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the beach for three days.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, he's got a back injury though, so we
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: got to show No.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: No, he's just the one that has already said he's out.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean to throw I.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Know the astros are the culprits. I brought up JB
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: for like ten years. Eighty percent of the Astros didn't go.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: It's true, right. I spoke to a couple even off
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: the field about it. They were like, I don't want
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to deal with that crap. They didn't want to deal
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: with it when it was you know, post trash Can incident.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Cheating scandal. Right, Yes, they go face the music with
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the with the other players as well as the fans. Yeah, no,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. This is a great talk, JB. We'll love
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: having you on. We'll catch you soon. We'll see you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: thanks next week in Philly.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Look forward to it.
• 33:15
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