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L.A Homeless Agency Fraud Cases | What’s For Dinner…? · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
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  Speaker 2: Bill Handel here on a Friday morning, September 18th. And
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  Speaker 2: it is a foodie Friday. And of course, at eight o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: it's always foodie Friday. Doing that for I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how many years.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: There is and I want to share this story with you.
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  Speaker 2: The allegation from the administration, particularly from President Trump, that
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  Speaker 2: accusing California and even specifically the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority,
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  Speaker 2: which works with homeless people, you would, of course, figure out.
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  Speaker 2: And he has accused and others have accused them of
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  Speaker 2: out and out fraud. Well, it doesn't look like he's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Does not look like he's wrong. Because the federal and
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  Speaker 2: local prosecutors just unveiled new cases and a guilty plea.
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  Speaker 2: And the question is, who was actually watching the books
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  Speaker 2: at LASA, the L.A. Homeless Service Authority? And if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the numbers... If you look at the fraud,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the theft, it is stunning. Now,
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  Speaker 2: when you consider fraud, do you accuse an entire agency
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  Speaker 2: of fraud? No, it's people who commit fraud, who work
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  Speaker 2: for the agency or deal with the agency. And the
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  Speaker 2: accusation is that the organization itself is not a fraudulent organization.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, their heart is sort of in the right
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  Speaker 2: place with the homeless. It's just fraud. how poorly they're run,
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  Speaker 2: how lack of oversight. Now, the LA Housing Authority is
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  Speaker 2: a rather interesting organization. It is a nonprofit. And it
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  Speaker 2: is an independent nonprofit licensed by the state, however, overseen
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  Speaker 2: by L.A. City. So it's technically not a division of L.A. City,
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  Speaker 2: but it is overseen by the city. And for all purposes,
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  Speaker 2: it really is just an arm of the city. So
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of people or several people they're talking about
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  Speaker 2: in this story in CalMatters, that three people, uh, have
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  Speaker 2: been charged. One has pled guilty and, uh, the feds
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  Speaker 2: and the county says, oh, they're going to bring plenty
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  Speaker 2: more of these cases. And okay. Wednesday news conference, uh,
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  Speaker 2: authorities allege a bribery scheme built on ghost clients here.
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  Speaker 2: Give us some money. We have these clients we're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with to help with housing. And there weren't any, And
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  Speaker 2: the accusation from the top federal prosecutor, the U.S. attorney
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  Speaker 2: in L.A., Bill Saley, says no one was minding the shock.
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  Speaker 2: No vetting, no auditing, no accounting. It was just a
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  Speaker 2: rush to push as much money out the door. And
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  Speaker 2: that is the philosophy now that's going on with homelessness.
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  Speaker 2: It is such a hot topic, button issue. It's just
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  Speaker 2: a hot button issue that we have to prove. That's
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  Speaker 2: these agencies, LASA particularly. Look what we're doing. Look what
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  Speaker 2: Karen Bass says. Oh, look what we're doing for the homeless.
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  Speaker 2: We're putting so many more homeless people into shelters. Well,
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  Speaker 2: here are a few numbers about that. Michael Young, founder
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  Speaker 2: of the Culver City nonprofit Home at Last, which gets
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  Speaker 2: money from LASA, accused him of using shell companies and
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  Speaker 2: fake bids. He got $ 12 million in taxpayer funds that
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  Speaker 2: he stole, including siphoning a million dollars into a nightclub,
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  Speaker 2: nearly $ 50, 000 trip to Tahiti. That's a hell of a trip,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. That is a seriously nice trip to Tahiti.
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  Speaker 2: And he bought a Chevy Impala vintage and spent $ 140, 000
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  Speaker 2: restoring it. How do you do that? Okay. Scott Turner, U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Secretary for Housing and Urban Development, said that Young's group
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  Speaker 2: received more than $ 118 million for homeless housing since 2019,
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  Speaker 2: $ 75 million of it through LASA, L.A. Homeless Housing, Homeless Authority.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty crazy stuff. And then you have
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  Speaker 2: bribery charges against another one, an employee of a nonprofit
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  Speaker 2: special services group, which receives money from LASA. And the
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  Speaker 2: Lakia Maloney accused of referring homeless people to housing funded by, oh,
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  Speaker 2: look at this, LA, Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority. And
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  Speaker 2: Maloney took in $ 180, 000 in bribes from someone who is
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  Speaker 2: now head or was head of a nonprofit's been debunked
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  Speaker 2: abundant blessings. I'll bet you they're abundant. And participated in
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  Speaker 2: ghost steering him through ghost participants so he could bill
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  Speaker 2: for services.
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  Speaker 4: But see, this is why I get frustrated. One, you
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  Speaker 4: say there's no fraud a lot, but there is horrible
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  Speaker 4: fraud here. And you also say that it's going to
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  Speaker 4: take lots of money to solve this. We're not even
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  Speaker 4: using the money we have, Bill, and it's so frustrating.
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  Speaker 4: When I say no fraud, of course there is fraud.
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  Speaker 2: The point is the L.A. Housing Authority is accused of fraud,
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  Speaker 2: and the accusation should be lack of oversight. Same, same.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Nobody's watching this? Come on. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: No one's watching it. That I grant you.
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  Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous amount of money.
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  Speaker 1: No, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is. Especially when you think of, look at this. L.A.
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  Speaker 2: County District Attorney Nathan Hockman with the U.S. Attorney Saley
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  Speaker 2: looked at the money that was spent on homeless services. L.A.,
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  Speaker 2: the city of Los Angeles, failed to properly track Are
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  Speaker 2: you ready for this figure? $ 2. 3 billion in homeless funds,
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  Speaker 2: mostly by outsourcing to the L.A. Homeless Services Authority. Because
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  Speaker 2: LASA does not have its own employees. Well, it does,
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  Speaker 2: but it's an administrative agency. And what it does is
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  Speaker 2: contract through these nonprofits. And it is horrific. And the argument,
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  Speaker 2: look at the money that has been wasted, that's been spent.
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  Speaker 2: And it's negligence. I'll tell you what, in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the fraud, I am not accusing Lassa of fraud. I'm accusing,
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  Speaker 2: and you're right, where's that line? I'll go so far
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  Speaker 2: as to argue that lack of oversight was so great
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  Speaker 2: that that is criminal itself. Criminal negligence, I think, is
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  Speaker 2: where we go. And I think that is that bad.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: It's just horrific. And so, of course, the accusation is legitimate.
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  Speaker 2: And boy, this is just the start, just the start. OK, now,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that cities and counties and states
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  Speaker 2: do is they pay cops a fair chunk of money,
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  Speaker 2: as they should. I mean, police officers, you know, put
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  Speaker 2: themselves on the line. And especially now, if there's a shooter,
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  Speaker 2: they just rush the shooter. It used to be You know,
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  Speaker 2: they'd hide behind walls and things. Look what happened in Uvalde.
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  Speaker 2: But it is more dangerous to be a cop today
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  Speaker 2: than it ever has been. And so when police officers,
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  Speaker 2: police officers unions want money, it's hard for a city
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  Speaker 2: to say no. Same thing with fire department, firefighters. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of hard to say no. Well, they usually do
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  Speaker 2: pretty well, the police, until you run out of money.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what's happening with Orange County, with the sheriffs.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fight. Now, police unions are the people that negotiate,
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  Speaker 2: of course, with the city, in this case, the county.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the problem, is that depending on the municipality
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  Speaker 2: or the county, the pay is wildly diverse, where you
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  Speaker 2: can have one city... fire department or police department where
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  Speaker 2: the cops make, I don't know, $ 70, 000 a year if
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  Speaker 2: they've been around for a while. And the adjacent city
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  Speaker 2: for the same level and the same years of experience
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  Speaker 2: will pay $ 120, 000 a year. So the argument that's being
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  Speaker 2: used by the union, totally legitimate, is that we have
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  Speaker 2: paid all we can to, And yet at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: that fire department in the next county is paying 20
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  Speaker 2: percent more and we're going to lose our firefighters and
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  Speaker 2: our cops. And today, cops are not easy to get.
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  Speaker 2: Fewer people are becoming cops. Why? Because it is dangerous,
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  Speaker 2: for one thing. Second of all, cops are not looked
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  Speaker 2: at in the same vein as they used to be.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you had the cop on the street, you know, and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, cops actually used to walk the beat and
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  Speaker 2: Officer Krupke and everybody would know who they were. They
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  Speaker 2: knew everybody and they were put on pedestals as they should.
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  Speaker 2: And they all had powdered sugar on their shoulders. They
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  Speaker 2: looked like dandruff and it wasn't dandruff and they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: pay for a meal. Although today, I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: of any restaurants that give half off to police officers.
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  Speaker 2: And there were tons of them. And there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of restaurants that wouldn't let a cop pay for
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  Speaker 2: a meal. Well, that's no longer the case. case. But
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  Speaker 2: what do you do with a county or a city
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  Speaker 2: where the money has dried up? And this is what
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  Speaker 2: these municipalities and counties do. And the state does the
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  Speaker 2: same thing. Okay, it's a good year. Money is coming
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  Speaker 2: in because revenues are up. The state of California, for example,
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  Speaker 2: has had a couple of great years surplus. And so
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  Speaker 2: programs are instituted. Why don't we put together a new
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  Speaker 2: social program? And everybody goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, because we
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  Speaker 2: have the money. Well, the next couple of years where
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden revenues drop, the program stays put
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  Speaker 2: because there are no programs out there that are funded
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  Speaker 2: based on revenue that's coming in because people would be hired.
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  Speaker 2: They'd be fired and the agency or the program would disappear.
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  Speaker 2: So the program stays alive. And all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: there ain't no money to pay for it. And that
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  Speaker 2: is what's going on. So what's been happening now? Well,
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  Speaker 2: Orange County, of course, has increased the pay for its officers.
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  Speaker 2: And so far, they've been paying all of them out
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  Speaker 2: of reserves. And this is not easy and it is
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  Speaker 2: not fun. It's a shame, too. Though the other reason
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  Speaker 2: that cops are hard to come by is because actually
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  Speaker 2: cops are considered almost criminals, especially when you look, for example,
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  Speaker 2: what's happening with immigration, with ICE, somehow that translates into
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  Speaker 2: police officers. Somehow that translates into that the police department
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  Speaker 2: treats people badly, which is thank goodness why we have
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  Speaker 2: body cams, which is changing everything. Uh, I have been
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  Speaker 2: stopped a whole bunch of times. I have never once
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  Speaker 2: been treated badly by a police officer. Very professionally. Not
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  Speaker 2: in my ticket. Even when I've gotten away with a
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  Speaker 2: couple of violations when because we're so so pro cop
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  Speaker 2: copier and these men actually listen to the show and
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  Speaker 2: he said, just get out of here. That's a warning.
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  Speaker 2: And then the last time I got stopped when I
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  Speaker 2: got a ticket a few years ago is, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm on KFI. I do morning drive on KFI. We
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  Speaker 2: really love police officers. You know how pro-police officers, we
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  Speaker 2: treat them so well. And he said, well, thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much. You know, we really appreciate that. We know
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  Speaker 2: how much on our side you are. Now would you
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  Speaker 2: sign the ticket, please? Okay. Oh, and tickets– Now your
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  Speaker 2: $ 40 ticket is $ 240. Yeah, last time you had a ticket,
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  Speaker 2: those enhanced wonderful assessments that go on top of that,
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  Speaker 2: additional fees, if you will. All right, so that's what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in Orange County, and the fight continues, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what's going to happen with the cops. I
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  Speaker 2: think the cops are going to win, as they always do. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, cops are underpaid. Teachers are underpaid, and it
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  Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter how much you pay them. It's a
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  Speaker 2: tough job. It really is. Okay. Now, let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you about Anthropic, which of course, you know, it's one
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  Speaker 2: of the big AI companies out there. It's chatbot. Chatbot
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  Speaker 2: is Claude. And it's one of the, I use Claude.
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  Speaker 2: It really works well. Well, yesterday, the company, said that
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  Speaker 2: more than a quarter of its research and development is
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  Speaker 2: now led by Claude. And that figure jumped from zero
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  Speaker 2: a few months ago to 25% because progress is so
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  Speaker 2: quickly being done towards AI that it's building itself without
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  Speaker 2: human input. Now, that's a fairly big deal. This is
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  Speaker 2: technology moving at lightning speed. And all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: we're realizing that it, in many cases, is beyond our control.
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  Speaker 2: And even the head of Anthropic and the other Sam
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  Speaker 2: Altman of OpenAI and the head of NVIDIA are saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to slow this down. This is going way,
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  Speaker 2: way too quickly. Because the fear is that it is
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  Speaker 2: going to do things that humans have no idea what
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  Speaker 2: it is doing. Now, there's a school of thought. And
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  Speaker 2: at this point, the head of Anthropic, Dario Amodi, said
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  Speaker 2: it is moving ahead. But these programs already, these algorithms
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  Speaker 2: do have human oversight. And then they go to work. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they're finding out that there they go to work without
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  Speaker 2: human oversight.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so they call that fully autonomously. And there was
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  Speaker 2: an internal review of R & D tasks found that
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  Speaker 2: was done by Anthropic. Claude was able to lead the work.
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  Speaker 2: It was able to do it in about 26% of
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  Speaker 2: the time. with humans taking only a supervisory role and
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  Speaker 2: providing high-level direction, except that's quickly disappearing. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: as of February, this fully autonomously ability was zero. And
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  Speaker 2: so models accelerating their own development could make it more
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  Speaker 2: challenging for humans to understand or even control the system.
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  Speaker 2: It is scaring people a whole lot. Now, the president,
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  Speaker 2: and this is another fabulous quote from President Trump, and
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  Speaker 2: Amy is going to make fun of me saying this,
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  Speaker 2: as she always does, because I tend to exaggerate, except
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  Speaker 2: in this one. The president said, specifically, I have no
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  Speaker 2: fear of AI. The only controls AI needs is a
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  Speaker 2: great president. And that happens to be me. A high.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't he say high IQ president?
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  Speaker 2: High IQ president, yes. A high IQ president.
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  Speaker 4: You know, just like Einstein, who was around talking about
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  Speaker 4: his IQ.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, did you.
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  Speaker 4: Know that the original name was Claude Rains? But you
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  Speaker 4: couldn't see the answer when you looked at it.
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  Speaker 2: You know... That is very subtle, I must tell you.
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  Speaker 2: That actually works on several different levels.
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  Speaker 3: Reference a 1933 movie.
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  Speaker 2: The Invisible Man. Indeed. With Claude Rains. Yes. Okay. Coming up. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's what that was.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's obscure. It's pretty obscure. You get a pass on that, Amy. Oh, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Normal you don't, because you miss a whole lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, an enormous amount of stuff. I think everyone
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  Speaker 2: needs a pass on that. I'm sorry? I think everyone
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  Speaker 2: needs a pass on that. Yeah, pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of rains.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Nicely done. All right. Now, the three dreaded words,
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  Speaker 2: as Kono just played for Americans, is what's for dinner? Now,
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  Speaker 2: Is it particularly dreaded? I mean, is that a horrible word?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Probably more dreaded is I need bail. That's probably more dreaded,
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  Speaker 2: I would think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or they're taking off my leg. That's probably more dreaded.
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  Speaker 3: Does this look like a rash?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. But it really is a pain point, a
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  Speaker 2: major pain point for American families. Why? Juggling schedules, dietary restrictions,
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  Speaker 2: costs are going crazy. Labor Department data shows Americans spend
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  Speaker 2: an average of 43 minutes a day on food preparation
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  Speaker 2: and cleanup, up 34% since the early 2000s. That's a lot, too.
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  Speaker 2: You've got companies like Mars, Nestle are targeting this entire
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  Speaker 2: dinner challenge by offering convenient, quick, healthy meal options. Those
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  Speaker 2: have exploded. You have those fresh meals, those that come
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  Speaker 2: in boxes, either you put them together or or they
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  Speaker 2: come already fresh or frozen. Those have exploded. And so
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  Speaker 2: the world is different today. It really is. And this
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  Speaker 2: part of this story talks about Kevin's, which has literally
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  Speaker 2: exploded in sales. Kevin's meats and food that is fresh,
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  Speaker 2: although I throw them in the freezer. Great stuff and
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  Speaker 2: a reasonable price. Last night I went to dinner with
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  Speaker 2: nieces and nephews, I went to a Teppan place, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of those Japanese Teppan places. And, of course, if
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  Speaker 2: you ever go to a Japanese Teppan house, you won't
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  Speaker 2: see a Japanese guy within 100 yards of that place.
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  Speaker 2: And I asked this fellow from Guatemala, where in Japan
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  Speaker 2: do you actually come from? And he went, Japan, Japan, Guatemala.
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  Speaker 2: I go, okay, so much for Japanese Teppan places. But
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  Speaker 2: the cost was just astronomical. It was $ 55 a person.
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  Speaker 2: And there were four of us. I mean, that it's
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  Speaker 2: crazy making. And so, as I said, I don't go
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  Speaker 2: out to dinner very much because it's just it's not
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  Speaker 2: a question of not affording it. Well, that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: It's a question of value. There doesn't seem to be
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  Speaker 2: much value anymore because the costs are so expensive. So
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  Speaker 2: I do a lot of in-home cooking. Well, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of in-home microwaving. And you can still get a chicken
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  Speaker 2: bake for $ 4 a pop or $ 5 a pop. That's dinner.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So here's one. By the time 4 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: rolls around, this is studies by Pew, on any given day, 80%
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  Speaker 2: of Americans still don't know what they're going to have
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  Speaker 2: for dinner. And Squeezing dinner between work and the other
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  Speaker 2: activities can be a logistical nightmare. One in five meals
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  Speaker 2: are eaten in the car. That's where we have come to.
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  Speaker 2: And men are driving this increase. Time spent cooking and
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  Speaker 2: cleaning has doubled in the past two decades to 31
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  Speaker 2: minutes a day. Women still have far more time in
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  Speaker 2: the kitchen. And the Trump administration, the Maha movement, really,
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  Speaker 2: really extols the virtues of home cooking. Robert Kennedy, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know, he only recently launched an online cooking show?
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  Speaker 2: The Robert Kennedy Cooking Show? Yeah. The last episode where
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  Speaker 2: he talked about food poisoning not being caused by food
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  Speaker 2: but by vaccines. And he applies big pressure to produce
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  Speaker 2: healthy home-cooked meals.
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  Speaker 4: Well, to be fair, it is co-hosted by Chef Andrew Gruel,
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  Speaker 4: who is a magnificent chef, a wonderful husband and father,
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  Speaker 4: and the real deal.
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  Speaker 2: And he specializes in oatmeal? No, but he's the.
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  Speaker 4: One I would lean on, not the other fella.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you think– and I agree with that
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  Speaker 2: because I don't think Robert Kennedy has the credentials to
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  Speaker 2: be even the secretary of health, much less the experience
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  Speaker 2: in cooking. Hey, Bill. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Did you have a housekeeper that made dinner?
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  Speaker 2: No, actually I made dinner.
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  Speaker 3: You did?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the cook in the family. For the kids
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  Speaker 2: when they were little? Yeah, because all she knows how
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to make is enchiladas. Okay, what about your wife, ex-wife?
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  Speaker 2: She didn't cook.
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  Speaker 3: Marjorie didn't cook, but yeah, Bill makes a great, you've
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  Speaker 3: done brisket.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, but I'm talking about Tuesday night. Everybody's just
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: getting home from work. The kids don't know what they want.
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  Speaker 5: They don't know what you're making. You end up making
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: four different things because you just want to make it
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: easier because you're tired.
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  Speaker 2: We all ate the same thing. You don't like it,
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  Speaker 2: you don't eat. That's not what the story is.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: It's about how people come home from work and you just-
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: What's for dinner? Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole point. What is for dinner?
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  Speaker 3: And that is the number one.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: It is what Anne's talking about is the number one concern.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: And that's what these places season is another one that
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: a chef, Michael Rossi, came out with.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And that is.
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  Speaker 4: Helping people, families, come up with something to make every
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: night because it's impossible to not do the same thing
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: every night.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Which is why the subscription to those fresh food and
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: create your own or make your own with the ingredients
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: all given to you, and you can do it in
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: half an hour, 40 minutes, and the food is great.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And it runs $ 10, $ 12 per person for the meal.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: That's expensive. That's expensive. You find that expensive? For a
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: family of five?
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Monday through Friday to eat that? Absolutely.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Your meals for a family should be about $ 4 per person.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Does that include the sauce on the pasta or just
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the pasta? No, you should.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: $ 11 or $ 12 per person on a Monday night.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: You're looking at $ 3 to $ 4 per person.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'm comparing that to going out to dinner. That's, I think,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: what's going. Because last night, there was beef cut up,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and it was a lot of rice and vegetables at
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a Teppan, and it was $ 50 a head.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he also showed you the volcano.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: He did show me the volcano, yeah. The volcano. The volcano, yes.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: It's from Guatemala.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was. All right. Okay, maybe $ 3 to $ 4. Yeah,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that's about on average what a family pays per person.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That makes the point even bigger because, frankly, when I
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: cook at home, I don't pay attention to what the
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: cost of food is. When I buy it, when I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: buy subscription, which I do off and on, I do
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: pay attention. And it runs about $ 10 a head. But
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it's such high-quality food. It is so diverse. I would
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: never make those dishes at home on my own. All right,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: so much for that. We're done. Coming up, Foodie Friday,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: where you can have a meal tonight with what Neil
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: is going to suggest for $ 2. 27. This is KFI AM 640.
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