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273: Welcome to Plathville Recap - The Day Before I Do (S7 E8) · Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1: We are here to talk. Welcome to plaif though my God.
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Speaker 1: This episode we are still in the run up to
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Speaker 1: Lydia's very strange wedding with her very strange.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So did you have any takeaways before we get
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Speaker 1: into this particular recap? Did you have any thoughts some
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Speaker 1: feelings about this episode.
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Speaker 2: I have been sus about Zach from day one, and
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Speaker 2: I'm starting to feel a little bit more justified in
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Speaker 2: that because after this episode, I'm like, hmmm, I don't
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Speaker 2: know if I like you, my dude in your blue
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Speaker 2: suit that matches your blue eyes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. My takeaway was that it felt to me like
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Speaker 1: something had happened. Like, yes, when we first met Zach,
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Speaker 1: the guys gave him a hard time. They were homophobic
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Speaker 1: and inappropriate, but it almost feels like people are offended
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Speaker 1: by something that Zach has done, like beyond just being
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Speaker 1: messy around the house or not helping with dishes. Like
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Speaker 1: they're really activated, and they seem really interested in talking
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Speaker 1: to Lydia about all the red flags that they see.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just like, huh, I wonder if something happened.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get that thought? I feel like something happened,
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Speaker 2: and I feel like we're not seeing something. And I'm
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Speaker 2: even seeing people on the Reddit starting to turn against Zach.
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Speaker 2: You know, for a long time, they were like, there's
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Speaker 2: no thing wrong with him, He's great. Everybody sucks and
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Speaker 2: Zach's so nice and lovely, But now they're starting to
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Speaker 2: think maybe not. And I'm starting to think that too,
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Speaker 2: because when you have multiple people, like I know it's
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Speaker 2: the plaths and stuff, but like you have a lot
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Speaker 2: of people saying the same kinds of things about Zach,
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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a reason for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think we've seen some glimpses in previous
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Speaker 1: episodes where he's a bit controlling.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't.
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Speaker 1: Like when she's talking too much, and they're just kind
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Speaker 1: of a general vibe that it might be a problematic situation.
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Speaker 1: And so I think that's why people are worried for Lydia,
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Speaker 1: and I'm worried too.
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Speaker 2: Me too.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So without further ado, let's get into our recap
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Speaker 1: of Welcome to plath Phill Season seven, episode nine, Episode eight,
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Speaker 1: episode eight entitled The Day Before I Do. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: before we get into it, let's just do this schedule
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Speaker 1: in our brain because I'm gonna be here next week.
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be here for the wedding and then
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be god on the week after that. Bitch, Like, so,
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Speaker 1: do we think we're gonna have the season finale the
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Speaker 1: week after? Like, when I'm like it, I'm gonna miss
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Speaker 1: the season. I'm gonna be so bummed if I miss
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Speaker 1: the season. Oh no, no, but don't worry. Absolutely when
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Speaker 1: I get back, we're gonna cover it. But like, I
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Speaker 1: just want to be here for them because it feels
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Speaker 1: like it's going to be a momentous event, not just
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Speaker 1: the wedding but all the acrimony and in fighting it.
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Speaker 1: I want to be here.
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Speaker 2: I know me too.
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Speaker 1: Okay, start us.
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Speaker 2: Off, well, we start off four days before the wedding
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Speaker 2: because everybody's getting everything prepared. Zach had just moved into
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Speaker 2: the Plath family home. He's staying up in Isaac's room.
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Speaker 2: Lydia is super excited about the whole wedding. Zach is
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Speaker 2: super excited about his blue suit because his eyes pop
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Speaker 2: in his blue suit, like that's so important to him.
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Speaker 2: I guess we have Mariah showing up and she wasn't
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Speaker 2: a part of like any of the wedding prep or
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Speaker 2: anything like that. She's doing good in Montana. She said
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Speaker 2: the road trip to Montana felt really freeing and cathartic,
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Speaker 2: and she felt like she was leaving a lot of
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Speaker 2: things behind. So she does seem a little bit lighter.
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Speaker 2: So hopefully Montana's continuing to treat her well and we're
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Speaker 2: preparing for the wedding. Lydia is a little stressed out,
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Speaker 2: but she's trying to remain positive. They don't have a
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Speaker 2: seating chart, they don't have a playlist, they don't have
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Speaker 2: like anything, and I just I'm stressed out.
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Speaker 1: I'm stressed out too. But like you said last week,
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Speaker 1: you could have waited, You could have built in some time,
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Speaker 1: some weeks, some months to actually plan this thing through
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Speaker 1: instead of stressing yourself out. But like there's just a
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Speaker 1: part of it that I think she also kind of enjoys,
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Speaker 1: and we have Kim saying later in the episode like
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Speaker 1: that Lydia has always wanted to be married, like she's
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Speaker 1: always looked forward to her wedding even since she was
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Speaker 1: a child. So I think she's excited. But yes, she
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Speaker 1: is also stressed, and I don't think it helps that
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Speaker 1: her brother are just angry monsters for whatever reason I know.
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Speaker 2: Well, but speaking of the brothers, we do have Ethan
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Speaker 2: saying to the camera that he has apologized to Lydia
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Speaker 2: for his treatment of Zach, which I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: that's cool and everything, and then we start talking some
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Speaker 2: shit about Veronica a little bit. Ethan mixes up his
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Speaker 2: girls and talks about how Veronica was accusing Olivia no,
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Speaker 2: I mean Teagan of having an only fans, and Ethan
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Speaker 2: says that Veronica's just trying to start some shit. I
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Speaker 2: guess Teagan has a good attitude about it. She says,
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Speaker 2: if she did have an only fan, she would be
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Speaker 2: super successful. Yes, and I love that. I liked how
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Speaker 2: Ethan didn't even buy bad an eye at that for
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Speaker 2: such a conservative Christian guy, He's just like laughing at it.
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Speaker 1: I think Ethan has changed a lot, he is clearly
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Speaker 1: engaging in premarital sex. I for sure think that he
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Speaker 1: is divorced yet from Olivia, so it's actually adulterist sex,
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Speaker 1: I mean, technically little bit. So I think he's dismantled
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Speaker 1: some of his own belief system and or he's like
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Speaker 1: a typical Christian who just cherry picks Bible scriptures based
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Speaker 1: on what he wants to do in his life. Probably that,
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Speaker 1: But he doesn't seem too upset. Well, actually I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think? Like I didn't
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Speaker 1: think in the beginning, certainly last episode, and in this episode,
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Speaker 1: it didn't seem like he was super pissed off at
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Speaker 1: Veronica until he heard that Veronica was actually gonna come
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Speaker 1: to the wedding, and then he started getting riled up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my vibe too. It was just kind
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Speaker 2: of like, he's not gonna put it, put any attention
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Speaker 2: to it unless she comes to the wedding and then
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Speaker 2: starts causing him buck and I think he says something
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Speaker 2: like if Veronica comes to the wedding, it's just going
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Speaker 2: to be nothing but havoc. Because Micah ends up calling
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Speaker 2: Lydia at some point like facetimes her and he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: So remember like last week when Veronica sent you that
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Speaker 2: long text messages text message saying that she wasn't gonna
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Speaker 2: come to your wedding at all because she's worried about
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Speaker 2: her mental well being and she doesn't want to be
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Speaker 2: around all attention and all of the toxicity. Well, now,
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Speaker 2: actually Veronica might come to the wedding, and it's four
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Speaker 2: days before, which is absolutely ridiculous. And so I think
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Speaker 2: that causes a lot of tension, probably around the whole family,
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Speaker 2: not just with Ethan.
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Speaker 1: Right, And here we are, yes, And so Veronica does
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Speaker 1: make the decision at the last minute to join Micah,
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Speaker 1: and it's all because she is insecure about Micah being
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Speaker 1: around Teagante and his girlfriend, all based on this hallucination
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Speaker 1: that she's having that Micah was looking up naked pictures
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Speaker 1: that don't exist. Yeah, naked pictures that don't exist of
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Speaker 1: Teagan based on a lie that Veronica perpetuated about Teagan
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Speaker 1: having an only fan. So let's break down the delusion here. First,
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Speaker 1: she makes it a lie. Maybe she saw an article.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm sure if she saw an article,
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Speaker 1: she tried to vet it and find it herself. She
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Speaker 1: couldn't do it, but she perpetuates a lie about Teagan,
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Speaker 1: saying that she's gotten only fans. She shares it with Micah.
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Speaker 1: Michael calls his brother, and Ethan's like, well, can you
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Speaker 1: look into it and let me know if it's true,
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Speaker 1: because like, I don't think so. So Micah picks up
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Speaker 1: his phone to try and see if he can find
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Speaker 1: some information about Taken having an OnlyFans, and then Veronica
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Speaker 1: takes him picking up his phone to look it up
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Speaker 1: as him wanting to see naked pictures of Taken and
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Speaker 1: wanting to cheat on her, And so then she's gonna
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Speaker 1: now use him looking up pictures which he wasn't even
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Speaker 1: looking up in the first place because they don't exist because.
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Speaker 2: You lied about it exactly.
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Speaker 1: So you're gonna use that in order to bust your
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Speaker 1: way into this wedding and cause drama like you are,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, you are sick in the head. Veronica
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Speaker 1: certify him, You're sick in the head.
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Speaker 2: It's so crazy, And then like so emotionally manipulative and
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Speaker 2: so like unpolite to be like, yeah, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 2: go to your wedding, And then just just kidding. I'm
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Speaker 2: actually gonna go, but I'm like kind of on the
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Speaker 2: fence about it, Like I still don't know if I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna go, but like i'm thinking that i might, so
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Speaker 2: like just prepare that I'm gonna beat.
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's not all about you, but.
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Speaker 2: She wants it to be. Yes, she does, and that's
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Speaker 2: the toxic part.
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Speaker 1: And to me, it's like, if you don't like this family,
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Speaker 1: and we could all sit here and talk for quite
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Speaker 1: some time about why you might not the family, like
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Speaker 1: just be like, Okay, well I'm not gonna hang out
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Speaker 1: with them. Then yeah, it's I don't align with them,
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Speaker 1: vibe with them. So I'm just gonna stay back here
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Speaker 1: and book a raton and enjoy my dogs and whatever.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna chill. Yeah, but no, you're heading up there
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Speaker 1: because you want to sow descend, you want to cause problems,
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Speaker 1: and that means you ain't shit exact rodica ate shit.
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Speaker 2: And then it's one day before the wedding and this
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Speaker 2: is like where we're preparing for the wedding rehearsal. We
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Speaker 2: have Kim who is staying at the farmhouse or whatever
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Speaker 2: with Ethan, Teagan and Isaac, and we hear a lot
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Speaker 2: from Kim here where she's feeling a mix of emotion.
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Speaker 2: She's like excited a little bit for Lydia, but she's
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Speaker 2: also overwhelmed by everything that has to be done. And
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Speaker 2: she's also concerned and a bit hesitant, not only by
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Speaker 2: how quickly everything is moving, but because she senses what
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Speaker 2: she says are a lot of red flags from Zach,
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Speaker 2: and she does like elaborate on those red flags. So
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Speaker 2: one of them was she sees a lack of initiative.
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Speaker 2: Apparently he doesn't help out with any of the chores
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Speaker 2: or any of the cleaning or anything. He just sits
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Speaker 2: on his ass. He also is usurping is that the
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Speaker 2: right word? Usurping Lydia's desires? And she gives an example
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Speaker 2: about the wedding planning, because apparently Lydia wanted hunter green
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Speaker 2: or forest green or whatever for her wedding colors, and
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Speaker 2: Zach shot that down and said, no, I want blue
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Speaker 2: because I really look good in blue. And I didn't
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Speaker 2: like that. I felt like there was some truth there. Sure,
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Speaker 2: I know it's coming from Kim Plath. I know she's
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Speaker 2: a big old drunk and everything, but I believe her,
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Speaker 2: but I believe her.
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Speaker 1: And then when we cut over to Lydia and Zach
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Speaker 1: and they're talking heads and they're talking about the colors
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Speaker 1: for their wedding. You've got Lydia kind of saying, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like we really like blue, Like that's her favorite color,
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Speaker 1: isn't it. I'm just like, Okay, Well, which you're not
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Speaker 1: saying though, is that he apparently steamrolled you and didn't
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Speaker 1: allow you to have the color that you want to.
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, it is a wedding for the both
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Speaker 1: of them. They should both have opinions about that. But like,
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Speaker 1: it does just feel a little strange that he would
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Speaker 1: not allow her to pick her hunter green.
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Speaker 2: I don't like that at all. And like if weddings
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Speaker 2: were so important to Lydia, which I think that's why
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Speaker 2: Kim was saying that, because Lydia has always wanted to
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Speaker 2: get married and she was super excited about having a
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Speaker 2: beautiful wedding. Like I feel like if I was her partner,
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, you know what, let's do some hunter green.
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Speaker 2: I'll wear of a nice dusty blue. It'll still go
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Speaker 2: together with the colors, Like you can make it work.
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Speaker 2: But no, it's Zack's way or the highway, and I
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Speaker 2: don't like that. And this is coming from another person.
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Speaker 2: I think it was last week we heard from someone
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Speaker 2: else in the family that he doesn't Zach doesn't put
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Speaker 2: Lydia first, and he does whatever he wants, and so
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Speaker 2: this is becoming a pattern. I don't like it. Sweet
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Speaker 2: Lydia is also of the mind of, like, I want
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Speaker 2: to respect my future husband. This is a total traditional
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Speaker 2: Christian value as well of just like serving your husband
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Speaker 2: and being a good godly wife. And so I think
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Speaker 2: that she's coming from that perspective, like she's also burying
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Speaker 2: all of her wants and feelings down because she thinks
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Speaker 2: that that's a godly thing to do. That's my no.
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Speaker 1: And I think Ethan actually speaks to that at some point,
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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that I'm skipping ahead, but I think
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Speaker 1: he's talking to Kim and he's like, well, if it's
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Speaker 1: a godly thing to do all the things that your
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Speaker 1: husband wants you to do, if like some of you
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Speaker 1: is doing that for your faith, well what about listening
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Speaker 1: to your elders, What about listening to your mother and
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Speaker 1: to your siblings when they've got some feedback for you
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Speaker 1: as it concerns this marriage that you're entering into, Like,
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Speaker 1: so you're kind of being selective about what you want
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Speaker 1: to adhere to. And I thought for Ethan that was
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Speaker 1: a valid point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely is a valid point. And then Kim
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Speaker 2: speaks to more of her hesitations with Zach, saying that
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Speaker 2: you know, if she knew him and she got to
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Speaker 2: love him, she would be excited about this wedding. But
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Speaker 2: she doesn't really know the guy. No one really knows
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Speaker 2: the guy. Honestly, nobody got any significant amount of time
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Speaker 2: to spend with him. So everyone's a little bit tense
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Speaker 2: in this family. They don't know him, and we've been
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Speaker 2: critical about that in prior episodes. I am on the
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Speaker 2: side of the Plaths in this regard, and like, you know,
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Speaker 2: respect is one of those things that is earned a
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Speaker 2: little bit. Like if I would want to get to
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Speaker 2: know somebody before they're getting married.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but that shouldn't lead you to be disrespectful, which
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Speaker 1: is what Ethan and Micah exact maybe even Isaac have
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Speaker 1: done as it concerns how they've treated Zach. Like you
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Speaker 1: can have your reservations and you can tactfully talk about
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Speaker 1: them or try to address them as a family. But
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Speaker 1: the moment that you tip over into homophobia for sure,
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Speaker 1: and I know you know this, but like that's where
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Speaker 1: you start to lose your audience, exactly.
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Speaker 2: And then Kim also says that she thinks the reason
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Speaker 2: why they want to get married so fast is just
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Speaker 2: because they want to go to Germany. And Kim's like, well,
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Speaker 2: but you can go to Germany even if you're not married.
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Speaker 2: It's not like you have to have a marriage license
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Speaker 2: to go there. And Kim says, and Ethan also echoes this,
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Speaker 2: they're just going to Germany. They're getting married really quickly
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Speaker 2: because they just want to fuck. Yeah, which I'm just.
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Speaker 1: Like, ew we what do you mean, obvious?
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Speaker 2: But that's exactly what it is.
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Speaker 1: They're young and they're in love and they want to
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Speaker 1: bump ugly and this is so they think they have
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Speaker 1: to be married first in order to do that. And Kim,
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Speaker 1: that's on you, bit, and Barry, that's on you. But
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Speaker 1: like Barry has no problem whatsoever to just marry his
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Speaker 1: daughter off after two weeks to some unknown rando with
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Speaker 1: a weird smile who doesn't have a job or anything.
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Speaker 2: No, doesn't have any ambitions apparently either, and.
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Speaker 1: He wants to be a tennis teacher, tennis coach, own
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Speaker 1: a coffee shop, right, I want to have a coffee shop.
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Speaker 1: I want to be a chess player like Tony on
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Speaker 1: Sister Wives. Seriously, how are you going to take care
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Speaker 1: of my daughter with that?
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Speaker 2: Exactly? And Kim even speaks to Barry in this scene
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Speaker 2: as well. This is where we've seen the preview a
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Speaker 2: couple times where Barry, according to Kim, post divorce, has
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Speaker 2: really wanted to just be the fun like easygoing dad, approving.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't want anybody to be mad at him. He
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to be mean, and so he's just going
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Speaker 2: with whatever his kids want because he wants them to
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Speaker 2: love him. And like, you know, Kim's being critical here,
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Speaker 2: I can understand Barry also having a change of heart
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Speaker 2: after the divorce and like just trying to be a
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Speaker 2: little bit softer. My dad was like that when my
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Speaker 2: mom and him split. He became like a way nicer
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Speaker 2: person because he was out of that toxic marriage. Like
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Speaker 2: I can see that, but I do think that there's
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Speaker 2: some problems with Barry just blanketly approving of somebody like
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Speaker 2: Zach when he doesn't really know him either, And then
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Speaker 2: I think Kim talks about her engagement with Barry, She's like,
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Speaker 2: you know, we had a really quick engagement. But the
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Speaker 2: difference between my engagement and Lydia's is that I knew
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Speaker 2: Barry for many years prior to getting engaged to him.
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Speaker 2: Lydia doesn't know this guy. Right.
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Speaker 1: Well, we have to call in to question Barry's judgment
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Speaker 1: in this, this marriage with Lydia when we consider the
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Speaker 1: fact that he allowed Kim to home school and raise
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Speaker 1: all of his children while he was working out of
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Speaker 1: the house, and you know, he probably saw the evidence
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Speaker 1: of that when Mariah left home at sixteen years old
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Speaker 1: to go live with their grandparents and their kids started
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Speaker 1: having all of these issues Ethan and Olivia. And I
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Speaker 1: still don't know why Hosanna doesn't want to be associated
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Speaker 1: whatsoever with the Plaths, other than maybe there are some
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Speaker 1: issues there. So Barry is just kind of a problematic
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Speaker 1: father generally speaking. I agree, And maybe he's conscious to that,
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Speaker 1: maybe he's trying to rehabilitate his image. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, maybe he's not conscious to that because he's
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Speaker 1: just devoid of that parenting impulse. But I also do
17:40
Speaker 1: think that Kim is feeling at a disadvantage because she
17:42
Speaker 1: can't really whoop him upside the head because she's not
17:44
Speaker 1: married to him anymore, and she's ad a disadvantage with
17:47
Speaker 1: her children because of course she left the family the
17:50
Speaker 1: home and entered into a drunken, adulterous affair with Kim Palmer,
17:55
Speaker 1: the racist person from Facebook exactly well apparently is now
17:59
Speaker 1: living in k.
18:00
Speaker 2: Did you see that? Yeah, I did see that.
18:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. So he left Crawfordsville, which is where his home
18:05
Speaker 1: was that we saw him and Kim having dinner and
18:09
Speaker 1: dancing in the kitchen or whatever last season. So he
18:11
Speaker 1: left Crawfordsville because, according to him, there's too many people
18:14
Speaker 1: there and then moved to Kiro, which I think has
18:16
Speaker 1: ten times the population. And so the question everybody has
18:20
Speaker 1: is will does that mean Kim and Ken are actually
18:24
Speaker 1: still seeing each other despite what Kim told us earlier
18:28
Speaker 1: in the season, which was that they were just friends. Yeah,
18:31
Speaker 1: I know, only the shadow knows.
18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish we were privy to that. Yeah, I
18:36
Speaker 2: would love to know. And then the only other thing
18:38
Speaker 2: that came out of this section with Kim was they
18:41
Speaker 2: were talking about the whole OnlyFans rumor with Veronica and Teagan,
18:45
Speaker 2: and Kim makes a comment and I know it's a joke,
18:47
Speaker 2: but she was like, after the divorce, I considered doing
18:50
Speaker 2: only fans just for the feat though, so that way
18:53
Speaker 2: I could like, you know, make ends meet and stuff.
18:56
Speaker 2: She says that in front of her kids, and I'm like, Kim,
18:59
Speaker 2: and nobody be buying that only fans.
19:01
Speaker 1: And Ethan even says, ain't nobody's gonna want to be
19:04
Speaker 1: seeing that only fans, And in my mind, I just
19:07
Speaker 1: harken back to the many scenes where we've seen her
19:10
Speaker 1: feet in sandals, I know, just stuffed into sandals, just
19:15
Speaker 1: these pork trotter feet, and I'm just like, nobody's gonna
19:19
Speaker 1: pay you. I hope you're joking, because nobody, well maybe
19:21
Speaker 1: people like that. I don't know what I mean.
19:23
Speaker 2: There's a fetish for pretty much everything nowadays.
19:25
Speaker 1: But that's like me having a foot account for my
19:29
Speaker 1: jacked up old lady a dema aduled feet. Nobody wants
19:34
Speaker 1: to see that, thank you.
19:35
Speaker 2: I'm sure people would love it. And then we have
19:38
Speaker 2: Veronica's bitch ass arriving on the farm and she I
19:43
Speaker 2: think she arrives like expecting some kind of pomp and circumstance,
19:47
Speaker 2: but like she is there, it immediately becomes tense. She
19:51
Speaker 2: goes off to like hang out with the cows and
19:54
Speaker 2: like not interact with anybody, kind of how like Olivia
19:58
Speaker 2: was in some of the later seasons where she was
20:01
Speaker 2: on her way out and she didn't want to involve
20:03
Speaker 2: herself with the family. I get it, you know, but
20:06
Speaker 2: you're there for a wedding rehearsal.
20:08
Speaker 1: At least greet the bride to be at least great
20:12
Speaker 1: the family, say hello to people, like engage in polite niceties.
20:18
Speaker 1: But I think she's very insecure because she knows that
20:22
Speaker 1: she has behaved very badly, and she doesn't want to
20:25
Speaker 1: engage them because then she'd have to face her own behavior.
20:27
Speaker 1: And like, what if they actually had a reaction to
20:29
Speaker 1: your bad behavior and wanted to challenge you on it.
20:31
Speaker 1: You ain't ready for the smoke.
20:32
Speaker 2: You can't handle it.
20:33
Speaker 1: Can't handle the smoke, can't handle it all.
20:35
Speaker 2: She also says that the only reason why she's here
20:37
Speaker 2: is because her therapist told her to come, but she's
20:39
Speaker 2: also there to support Micah. I guess because it's his
20:43
Speaker 2: sister's wedding. I don't believe it for a second. And
20:46
Speaker 2: then she says that her and Micah made a pact
20:48
Speaker 2: together where they wouldn't be a part from each other.
20:51
Speaker 2: According to Veronica, she's like, I don't ever want to
20:53
Speaker 2: be alone. Micah has to be at my side twenty
20:56
Speaker 2: four to seven, And that quickly fall apart because Isaac
21:02
Speaker 2: ends up calling Micah on the farm bitching like he
21:07
Speaker 2: is heated, he is mad. He really just wants to
21:11
Speaker 2: talk to his brother about how he's feeling and how
21:14
Speaker 2: he's feeling about the whole energy, the whole vibe vibjeck
21:17
Speaker 2: of this whole wedding rehearsal.
21:18
Speaker 1: To include the situation with Veronica which Isaac is pissed
21:22
Speaker 1: off about, which is potentially some foreshadowing to come, because
21:26
Speaker 1: we know that Isaac and Micah get into a physical
21:29
Speaker 1: fight after the wedding.
21:30
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so Isaac when he calls Micah, he's heated
21:35
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm gonna come pick you up. So
21:37
Speaker 2: he comes in with his truck. Micah gets to the truck,
21:40
Speaker 2: they drive off somewhere.
21:41
Speaker 1: Mikah, that's poor form. You told Veronica you weren't just
21:44
Speaker 1: going to abandon her and she was gonna be left
21:46
Speaker 1: alone at the farm, And I mean, I can see
21:48
Speaker 1: how that might be an unreasonable request for Veronica, who
21:52
Speaker 1: has destroyed all these relationships, But like, you agreed to it.
21:56
Speaker 1: So if you agreed to it, like you shouldn't just
21:59
Speaker 1: the first thing you do immediately just abandon her.
22:01
Speaker 2: Well you should at least say, hey, I'm gonna go
22:03
Speaker 2: talk to my brother who's having a hard time at text,
22:06
Speaker 2: like I'll be right back anything, Like all you had
22:08
Speaker 2: to do is just do that. Yeah, But Micah gets up,
22:11
Speaker 2: they speed off and they go talk in the truck,
22:14
Speaker 2: away from cameras, away from everybody else.
22:16
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question about that? Though? Didn't
22:18
Speaker 1: it seem like something happened It did to make Isaac
22:22
Speaker 1: upset because at this point, Zach has been in the
22:24
Speaker 1: house for several weeks according to what they've told us.
22:28
Speaker 1: And so we do learn from Isaac in the scene
22:31
Speaker 1: about like why he's kind of annoyed with Zach. But
22:33
Speaker 1: is that enough to get you riled up on this day,
22:36
Speaker 1: the day before the wedding? It didn't make sense.
22:39
Speaker 2: Well, it felt like to me, Isaac was feeling all
22:42
Speaker 2: of the tension of everything, like he was feeling the
22:45
Speaker 2: tension between his own feelings with Zach and Veronica, but
22:48
Speaker 2: like everybody else because it's palpable. Like you have Ethan,
22:51
Speaker 2: who's just a flaming ball of anger, just walking around
22:56
Speaker 2: huffing and puffing why, I don't know he's well. Ethan
22:59
Speaker 2: is emotionally unregulated and annoying, and he makes everybody else
23:02
Speaker 2: feel what he's feeling. And then you have Kim, who's
23:06
Speaker 2: also disapproving of everything. So I think Isaac's picking up
23:10
Speaker 2: on everything and he's not liking it. He just needs
23:12
Speaker 2: to vent. But he does bitch about Zach, bitches about
23:15
Speaker 2: how Zach apparently does nothing around the Platt family home,
23:20
Speaker 2: like he just comes down for dinner and then goes
23:23
Speaker 2: back upstairs to fuck around on.
23:24
Speaker 1: His phone or goes on the couch in the living room.
23:28
Speaker 1: Does he's there, doesn't offer to help, doesn't clean up
23:31
Speaker 1: his dishes, doesn't clean up his room that is Isaac's
23:34
Speaker 1: room that he's lending to him.
23:36
Speaker 2: According to Isaac, the room is trashed. I don't know.
23:39
Speaker 2: We saw like a glimpse of it. I saw some
23:42
Speaker 2: of his shit everywhere, but like it looks kind of messy.
23:45
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
23:46
Speaker 1: But like he explains it as they're going to be
23:49
Speaker 1: moving into an apartment together, and so his stays in
23:51
Speaker 1: boxes and so it's a bit of a mess and
23:53
Speaker 1: sure that's why.
23:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I think Isaac's just bitching about everything really,
23:58
Speaker 2: And then he brings up Veronica and he brings up
24:04
Speaker 2: how it's reminding him of Olivia and like everything that
24:07
Speaker 2: happened with Mariaax is like it's just a lot of tension.
24:10
Speaker 2: He doesn't really like that Veronica's here because all she's
24:13
Speaker 2: gonna do is just stir shit up and she's making
24:16
Speaker 2: everybody uncomfortable. And Micah's like.
24:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why she came, yea, And it
24:21
Speaker 1: seemed in that moment that Micah actually was starting to
24:25
Speaker 1: open up about his feelings about Veronica and the problems
24:29
Speaker 1: that they're having. But like Isaac is too fired up
24:32
Speaker 1: and also too young to like recognize that maybe he
24:34
Speaker 1: should just slow down and allow Micah to share because
24:37
Speaker 1: Micah is an abused person who needs a friend. But
24:40
Speaker 1: Isaac in that moment recognized that and he kind of
24:43
Speaker 1: cuts off. He cuts off Micah. He's like, yeah, so
24:46
Speaker 1: why is Veronica here? Why does she have a bad attitude?
24:48
Speaker 1: Why is she always coming for our family.
24:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Micah says something here too, like Veronica's going
24:54
Speaker 2: to be really mad at me that I'm gone, Like
24:55
Speaker 2: we should probably go back, and Isaac's like, who fu cares?
24:59
Speaker 2: Who cares? He cares about what that bitch thinks, Like
25:02
Speaker 2: you shouldn't care what she's gonna say to you, Like
25:05
Speaker 2: it's fine, You're a grown man. You can do what
25:07
Speaker 2: you want. And like Isaac, sorry, Micah just looks so
25:10
Speaker 2: beat down, and.
25:11
Speaker 1: He does it's just another person yelling at him.
25:13
Speaker 2: And it's hard because Micah, i think, says somebody something
25:17
Speaker 2: to the camera is like he feels caught in the
25:19
Speaker 2: middle of everything because he's there with his girlfriend who
25:22
Speaker 2: doesn't like his family and is creating a bunch of
25:25
Speaker 2: unnecessary drama nobody likes her. And then he's also trying
25:29
Speaker 2: to balance like Isaac's feelings and then later Ethan's feelings
25:34
Speaker 2: and Kim's feelings and like everybody else who is also
25:37
Speaker 2: creating tension for their own reasons about Zach and everything.
25:40
Speaker 2: And Mike is like, I'm just here, man, I'm just here.
25:43
Speaker 2: I can't handle all of this, Like I'm just one dude.
25:46
Speaker 1: What's his zodiac again? With a cancer. He's a pisces.
25:49
Speaker 1: All that makes sense, a little water sign. He's feeling everything,
25:52
Speaker 1: very emotional.
25:53
Speaker 2: I feel bad. And so then they drive back to
25:56
Speaker 2: the farm after Isaac let off some steam and my
26:00
Speaker 2: bees looking for Veronica. He doesn't see her standing like
26:03
Speaker 2: a few feet away from her, and she kind of
26:05
Speaker 2: gets annoyed by that, and then he ends up coming
26:07
Speaker 2: up to her and she's like, why did you leave me?
26:10
Speaker 2: When did she notice I was here? She starts to
26:12
Speaker 2: get mad, and then she pulls herself back a little
26:16
Speaker 2: bit because she knows the cameras are on her. She's like,
26:19
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be good for the family. I'm trying
26:21
Speaker 2: to be mature rather else.
26:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, bitch, what toxic.
26:25
Speaker 2: And then this is where we start seeing Ethan throwing
26:28
Speaker 2: his fucking tantrum because he's not in a good mood.
26:31
Speaker 1: Well, and it appears to be because Veronica showed up
26:36
Speaker 1: and like only said hello to the little girls, is
26:39
Speaker 1: not talking to the adult siblings or their significant others.
26:45
Speaker 1: Like she's keeping to herself. She's very cold, and so
26:48
Speaker 1: she's like, He's like, why are you even here? So
26:50
Speaker 1: he's upset about that, but instead of talking to Micah
26:54
Speaker 1: about it or trying to approach the situation in a
26:57
Speaker 1: mature way. He starts unloading tables for the wedding the
27:01
Speaker 1: next day, but he's like throwing them into the yard
27:04
Speaker 1: like he's being a complete baby with his high waisted wrangler.
27:09
Speaker 1: He seeks like such a dor and I'm just like,
27:12
Speaker 1: calm down, it's not that big of a deal. This
27:15
Speaker 1: is not your relationship. This is Micah's problem. Be a
27:18
Speaker 1: supportive person for Micah, and like, think about Lydia, because
27:21
Speaker 1: Zach and Lydia are dressed up. It's the rehearsal. And
27:24
Speaker 1: even though you don't believe in this marriage, or you
27:26
Speaker 1: don't believe this wedding, like at least show up and
27:29
Speaker 1: be a decent person. But he's never been trained to
27:32
Speaker 1: do that. He doesn't know how to be a person.
27:33
Speaker 1: He doesn't know want to be a grown adult. And
27:36
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. You should be embarrassed.
27:38
Speaker 2: It's really embarrassing. I'm like, dude, you are twenty six,
27:41
Speaker 2: you're the oldest brother, and you're acting like this, like
27:43
Speaker 2: I don't understand what's going on. But as the time
27:47
Speaker 2: goes on, while they're there, I could sense that Ethan
27:50
Speaker 2: was really just triggered by Veronica's presence because she was
27:54
Speaker 2: reminding him of Olivia, right, and I think that was
27:57
Speaker 2: the issue. However, of course, Ethan acting out his anger
28:01
Speaker 2: in the way that he was doing is absolutely unacceptable
28:04
Speaker 2: and ridiculous, but I think that's where it was coming from,
28:07
Speaker 2: because there was a moment where Veronica because she hasn't
28:11
Speaker 2: said hi to anybody, she hasn't said a word to
28:14
Speaker 2: anyone in the family, but then at one point she
28:16
Speaker 2: goes and talks to the littles. She talks to the
28:18
Speaker 2: little girls and is super chummy and friendly with them,
28:21
Speaker 2: and Ethan sees this and he says, this is bullshit.
28:24
Speaker 2: This is the same thing that Olivia did where she
28:27
Speaker 2: wanted nothing to do with any of the adults in
28:29
Speaker 2: the family but went straight to the little kids to try.
28:32
Speaker 1: And them and drive a wedge into the family. She
28:36
Speaker 1: sat that then with Isaac, and Isaac remembers that as well,
28:39
Speaker 1: uh huh, and doesn't want Veronica coming in and doing
28:42
Speaker 1: the same thing, which he actually tells Micah yep.
28:45
Speaker 2: And then Kim tries to talk to Ethan to try
28:47
Speaker 2: and calm him down, and Kim's like, we can try
28:50
Speaker 2: and talk to Lydia later too, because like she thinks
28:53
Speaker 2: that a lot of it is Ethan being mad at
28:57
Speaker 2: Lydia and Zach and I'm like, I mean, and I guess,
29:00
Speaker 2: like Ethan's not approving of their marriage whatsoever, and he's
29:04
Speaker 2: made that abundantly clear. But I think that the real
29:06
Speaker 2: root of it everything is that he's pissed off Veronica's here,
29:10
Speaker 2: and he's pissed off that there's tension in the first
29:12
Speaker 2: place in this family. And Kim does a bad job
29:15
Speaker 2: at trying to talk him down because she kind of
29:17
Speaker 2: rolls him up and is like, well, yeah, let's talk
29:19
Speaker 2: to Lydia later, and like, I think it's with him
29:23
Speaker 2: or it's with Isaac. But she says something to the
29:25
Speaker 2: effect of, we'll talk to Lydia later so we can
29:27
Speaker 2: list out all of the reasons why we think she's
29:29
Speaker 2: making the biggest mistake of.
29:30
Speaker 1: Her of her wedding. You couldn't have done this one
29:33
Speaker 1: month ago. You couldn't have had a family meeting two
29:35
Speaker 1: months ago. Come on, like, you're gonna wait until the
29:37
Speaker 1: eve of her nuptials to do this, Kim, Come on.
29:40
Speaker 2: I know it's ridiculous. And then we have the actual rehearsal,
29:44
Speaker 2: but it's kind of cobbled together. Everyone's just kind of
29:47
Speaker 2: standing around very awkwardly because nothing is set up. We
29:51
Speaker 2: have no table set up because Ethan threw them everywhere.
29:54
Speaker 2: We have no chairs set up or anything. And we
29:57
Speaker 2: have Mariah trying to say something no to Veronica. She
30:02
Speaker 2: says something like I'm glad you're here, and Veronica just
30:05
Speaker 2: is a stink ass hoe about it. So rude. Oh
30:08
Speaker 2: yeah him yeah, mean girl.
30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, very dismissive, like this is a member of this
30:13
Speaker 1: family that you are here to celebrate, yet like act
30:17
Speaker 1: like an adult. Yeah, but she can't, No, she cannot.
30:20
Speaker 2: And then we have Kim walking with Isaac similar to
30:23
Speaker 2: how she was with Ethan, and this is where she's
30:25
Speaker 2: talking to him about how they're going to talk to
30:28
Speaker 2: Lydia later to tell her she's making a huge mistake
30:32
Speaker 2: in her life. And I'm just like, again, you're riling
30:34
Speaker 2: up the tension. I understand that people are not necessarily
30:39
Speaker 2: happy about this union. I understand that you may not
30:43
Speaker 2: like Zach and that he apparently has a bunch of
30:46
Speaker 2: red flags, But we don't need to be creating more
30:48
Speaker 2: intention with these very hot headed young men. Yes, that
30:53
Speaker 2: are getting pissed off and thrown shit around.
30:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in short order, they're going to be drinking
30:58
Speaker 1: kim uh huh, and then there's to be the wedding.
31:00
Speaker 1: They're going to have a lot to drink, and then
31:02
Speaker 1: there's going to be a violent outburst and you're gonna
31:04
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, like, did you do anything to
31:07
Speaker 1: stoke those flames by being an unintuitive dipshit of a
31:11
Speaker 1: mother exactly, who's not just trying to like create a
31:14
Speaker 1: peaceful moment.
31:15
Speaker 2: No, Lydia.
31:15
Speaker 1: It's about lydia. It's not about everybody else's feeling right exactly.
31:19
Speaker 2: And then you have Barry on the other end of
31:21
Speaker 2: it not doing anything. He's really only focusing on lydia,
31:24
Speaker 2: which I do understand. He does say something like, you know,
31:28
Speaker 2: Ethan and Isaac appear to like somebody rubbed them the
31:31
Speaker 2: wrong way, but I'm just gonna ignore it because I'm
31:33
Speaker 2: gonna focus on Lydia. And it's like, Barry, I get
31:36
Speaker 2: it that you want to focus on your daughter and
31:38
Speaker 2: you're trying to be happy for her, and I'm glad
31:40
Speaker 2: that she at least has one member of the family
31:43
Speaker 2: that is trying to be excited for her because Lydia
31:45
Speaker 2: is genuinely excited about this safe I'm so sprung. It's ridiculous,
31:51
Speaker 2: and I don't know why over Zach, I can't, but
31:54
Speaker 2: you know, Barry's trying to be there for her. But
31:56
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, why don't you talk to your sons? Though?
31:59
Speaker 2: Why can't you be the man and be the father?
32:02
Speaker 2: And I hate to be like put generals and stuff
32:04
Speaker 2: on it, but like they need like a strong presence
32:06
Speaker 2: of like you need to cut your shit out.
32:08
Speaker 1: The hell are you doing? What are you to do
32:10
Speaker 1: with this instant? It's embarrassing.
32:13
Speaker 2: And then we have Ethan. After throwing all the tables,
32:16
Speaker 2: he's still pent up with so much rage, and he
32:19
Speaker 2: talks about after the divorce, he was so frustrated and
32:23
Speaker 2: so angry, and one of the ways that he dealt
32:25
Speaker 2: with that anger was doing at least one hundred push
32:29
Speaker 2: ups a day. And then he proceeds to do a
32:31
Speaker 2: bunch of push ups outside of his truck like a big,
32:33
Speaker 2: old macho man with the absolute worst form I've ever
32:36
Speaker 2: seen somebody do push ups with. And then after his
32:39
Speaker 2: push ups, he's still pissed off and angry, So then
32:41
Speaker 2: he gets in his old man Cadillac and then speeds
32:44
Speaker 2: off and drives through the wedding place, like where they're
32:49
Speaker 2: getting the pasture. Yeah, the pasture.
32:51
Speaker 1: He's like burning rubber through the pasture and making it
32:54
Speaker 1: an absolute spectacle out of himself.
32:57
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on?
32:59
Speaker 1: Well, so let's take this in bite sizes, like the pushups,
33:03
Speaker 1: Like that's giving narcissism, that's giving everybody, stop what you're
33:08
Speaker 1: doing and look at me and look how strong I
33:10
Speaker 1: am with my one hundred pushups. That's giving main character
33:13
Speaker 1: syndrome and being unable to live unless the spotlight is
33:17
Speaker 1: on you. It was like really a terrible moment for him,
33:20
Speaker 1: and then of course peeling out in the pasture. We've
33:22
Speaker 1: got Lydia and we've got Zach And this is where
33:25
Speaker 1: I think we get Zach to the camera right saying
33:27
Speaker 1: like it was super disrespectful. Yeah, I was really unhappy
33:30
Speaker 1: to see that, and he's absolutely right.
33:34
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know what the fuck Ethan's
33:37
Speaker 2: and like, what are you doing? You're literally acting like
33:40
Speaker 2: a toddler, yeah, and throwing a tantrum in front of everybody.
33:43
Speaker 1: And it's kind of dangerous. Like when he backs up
33:45
Speaker 1: he like almost hits somebody I know walking behind the
33:47
Speaker 1: vehicle and like.
33:48
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Yeah, like I understand if you're frustrated,
33:51
Speaker 2: then just fucking go take a walk.
33:52
Speaker 1: He wants everybody to see him be mad exactly.
33:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the narc behavior. Like what are you doing?
33:58
Speaker 2: I don't understand you push ups were bad?
34:01
Speaker 1: Yeah they were bad.
34:02
Speaker 2: You weren't even doing them right. And then we get
34:04
Speaker 2: to the preview and we have the day of the wedding.
34:07
Speaker 2: Everybody's getting ready. Yeah, Lydia has barely slept. She's so excited.
34:11
Speaker 2: She looks well.
34:12
Speaker 1: Is it because the entire family kept her up going
34:15
Speaker 1: over all of the red flags of her betrothed.
34:18
Speaker 2: I wonder when that conversation is gonna happen.
34:20
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the night before the wedding, so.
34:23
Speaker 2: That's terrible, It's crazy. I hope we get to see
34:26
Speaker 2: that conversation though, I would love to. I'd love to
34:29
Speaker 2: hear that. But Lydia is super excited. And then we
34:31
Speaker 2: have Ethan still pent up with so much rage. He
34:35
Speaker 2: apparently wanted to talk to his sister and then Zach
34:40
Speaker 2: told him no, and then that was why he was
34:42
Speaker 2: so pissed off. So I think they were trying to
34:44
Speaker 2: justify his like crash out at the wedding rehearsal as
34:49
Speaker 2: a result of that.
34:50
Speaker 1: But so we think that Ethan tried to talk to
34:53
Speaker 1: Lydia before he was peeling out in the pasture because
34:56
Speaker 1: it felt like to me that that conversation was supposed
34:59
Speaker 1: to happen after.
35:00
Speaker 2: I don't know.
35:01
Speaker 1: I think I think what's gonna happen is that Ethan
35:04
Speaker 1: and probably Kim and Micah and Isaac are going to
35:07
Speaker 1: try and approach Lydia to sit down with her, and
35:10
Speaker 1: Zach rightly so is going to be like, no, you
35:12
Speaker 1: don't have access to her right now, Like this is
35:14
Speaker 1: the night before our wedding, Like just give us a break, everybody.
35:17
Speaker 1: And he's gonna refuse access and that's gonna piss off
35:20
Speaker 1: the brothers.
35:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what's going to cause all of this drug.
35:23
Speaker 1: But like that's what my husband would do. My husband
35:26
Speaker 1: would tell my brother like, absolutely not, you're just coming
35:28
Speaker 1: in here to cause trouble. You've caused trouble all day
35:32
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna let you continue to do that.
35:34
Speaker 1: That's what my husband would do. Yeah, he would protect
35:36
Speaker 1: me from that, So maybe that's what Zach is trying
35:38
Speaker 1: to do, but like Ethan is not going to take that.
35:40
Speaker 2: Well, no, not gonna take it at all. And like
35:42
Speaker 2: it speaks to your point earlier when we started the
35:44
Speaker 2: pod of like was there something else that had happened
35:47
Speaker 2: before all of this to cause all of this frustration.
35:51
Speaker 2: Not to say that like Ethan's behavior is justified here,
35:56
Speaker 2: but I'm just wondering, like, why are you so pent up?
35:58
Speaker 2: And why is Isaac so piss Is it really just
36:01
Speaker 2: because he didn't do the chores? I feel like that's
36:03
Speaker 2: a little unreasonable.
36:04
Speaker 1: Can I just get meta a little bit with it?
36:07
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think maybe some of these kids,
36:11
Speaker 1: and predominantly the boys, are really sick of significant others
36:16
Speaker 1: coming into the family and then shitting all over their
36:19
Speaker 1: family or disrupting their family, or being damaging in some
36:22
Speaker 1: way to the family. So we've seen it with Olivia,
36:25
Speaker 1: we've seen it with Veronica. Now they're perceiving that they're
36:28
Speaker 1: seeing this with Zach, and they're just sick and they're
36:30
Speaker 1: tired of it. And so maybe there's just this subtext
36:34
Speaker 1: of like we're watching you, we're not happy with you,
36:37
Speaker 1: We're sick of this shit, so they're ready to pounce.
36:40
Speaker 1: But does that mean Zach deserves it? No, it does not,
36:42
Speaker 1: because everything Zach has shown up until this point, at
36:45
Speaker 1: least that we have seen Beatrice has been normal. I
36:50
Speaker 1: mean it's not been great, but it's been normal. Nothing
36:53
Speaker 1: super offensive. But let me ask you a question, because
36:55
Speaker 1: we didn't drill down into it, and I want to.
36:57
Speaker 1: I want to inquire, like, what are you you think
37:00
Speaker 1: about Zach going to Barry's house, staying for multiple weeks
37:06
Speaker 1: and not contributing any money. He's not working at this time,
37:11
Speaker 1: only coming out of his room when there's free food
37:14
Speaker 1: that he gets to eat, and then not helping cleaning
37:16
Speaker 1: up like in my world, Yeah, I would never, ever, ever, ever,
37:21
Speaker 1: what do you think of that?
37:22
Speaker 2: I would never, I would never. I find it very disrespectful.
37:25
Speaker 2: And if he's doing other things, like maybe he's making
37:28
Speaker 2: comments too, or like maybe he has a bad attitude.
37:30
Speaker 2: I think Isaac kind of touched on that earlier and
37:33
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention it, but like, I just wonder
37:35
Speaker 2: how the general vibe is with him not doing all that.
37:39
Speaker 2: I would find that very disrespectful because I'm opening my
37:41
Speaker 2: home to you. You are going to be a part
37:44
Speaker 2: of my family. I was raised different though, Oh yeah,
37:46
Speaker 2: I'm like I.
37:48
Speaker 1: Think most of us were. It's called home training, Like
37:50
Speaker 1: you don't go into somebody else's home and avail yourself
37:53
Speaker 1: of their hospitality and not give something back, Like we
37:56
Speaker 1: just we just don't do that. And it also made
37:59
Speaker 1: me wonder, like how were you acting while you were there?
38:01
Speaker 1: Because what we see on camera is just like he's
38:05
Speaker 1: smiling all the time and he's laughing and he's like
38:07
Speaker 1: it's so way happy. But like, what do you like
38:09
Speaker 1: when the cameras aren't on? What do you like when
38:12
Speaker 1: you're having a conversation with Isaac? Is this still what
38:15
Speaker 1: you're giving or do we get a more authentic version
38:18
Speaker 1: of who you are? Like what was that experience?
38:21
Speaker 2: Like exactly? I mean, because we're seeing like little glimpses,
38:25
Speaker 2: like was last week when he gave Lydia that weird
38:28
Speaker 2: look because she kind of cut him off a little
38:30
Speaker 2: bit and she was just being kind of sweet, like
38:32
Speaker 2: she acknowledged that she shouldn't have cut him off, but
38:35
Speaker 2: like he still gave her that weird look. Like I
38:38
Speaker 2: don't like his energy. I find him disrespectful a little bit.
38:41
Speaker 2: I find him a little, like I said a few
38:44
Speaker 2: episodes ago, audacious to expect that everybody would just automatically
38:49
Speaker 2: respect him after meeting him for the first time, after
38:52
Speaker 2: he's going to propose to their daughter, their sister, after
38:55
Speaker 2: a couple months of knowing her, Like it is audacious,
38:58
Speaker 2: it's weird to me. And then when you compound all
39:01
Speaker 2: of that, not helping out, not contributing financially, you know,
39:06
Speaker 2: sitting on his phone, sitting on his ass and not
39:08
Speaker 2: talking to anybody, and quite possibly being disrespectful otherwise, with
39:13
Speaker 2: him not letting Lydia choose the colors of the wedding
39:17
Speaker 2: because it's all about him and what he looks good
39:21
Speaker 2: in and how.
39:22
Speaker 1: He has a blue suit, and it really was all
39:24
Speaker 1: about his vision for their proposal, and like where he
39:28
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, where he wanted to stand, where
39:30
Speaker 1: he wanted everybody else to stand, what he wanted them
39:32
Speaker 1: to wear. So he does have that controlling sort of edge,
39:36
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering, I'm wondering if that showed up
39:39
Speaker 1: while he was living there and if that got on
39:41
Speaker 1: Isaac's nerves. So like, by the time we get to
39:43
Speaker 1: this moment in time, Isaac's like, I'm about to beat
39:47
Speaker 1: this kid down.
39:48
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, Like we don't see all of
39:50
Speaker 2: these little moments are happening, so like we're getting splices
39:54
Speaker 2: of moments in time, and so yeah, it seems very
39:57
Speaker 2: crazy for these people to be reacting so dramatically over
40:03
Speaker 2: this guy. But it's like maybe.
40:05
Speaker 1: Maybe some things have happened and they're just super turbo
40:08
Speaker 1: annoyed with this kid.
40:09
Speaker 2: It's the thing. I can't wait to get to the wedding. Dude,
40:12
Speaker 2: it's gonna be insane. I just want to see the fight.
40:14
Speaker 2: I want to see what it's about. Because Isaac coming
40:18
Speaker 2: in hot at the wedding rehearsal was kind of surprising
40:21
Speaker 2: to me because it wasn't like he was hot at
40:23
Speaker 2: Micah and he was getting mad at Micah. He was
40:25
Speaker 2: mad at everybody else.
40:26
Speaker 1: Well, he was kind of cutting Micah off and he
40:28
Speaker 1: was calling out Veronica for sure, But.
40:31
Speaker 2: Does that justify him beating the shit out of it.
40:33
Speaker 1: Well, if Veronica starts to act up and come for
40:37
Speaker 1: the family and Isaac is already super sensitive about that,
40:40
Speaker 1: and after having dealt with Zach and then Micah defends Veronica,
40:45
Speaker 1: I can see I can absolutely see that triggering Micah
40:50
Speaker 1: and frankly Ethan as well, So I can see how
40:53
Speaker 1: that would start. And I do think it would be
40:54
Speaker 1: Veronica that lights the match, probably, but I mean maybe
40:58
Speaker 1: that's not what happens that all we're going to have
40:59
Speaker 1: to So, like, based on what we're seeing, it looks
41:02
Speaker 1: like we're probably not gonna see the full wedding next week.
41:06
Speaker 2: Probably not.
41:06
Speaker 1: We're probably going to talk to Lydia, We're gonna go
41:09
Speaker 1: over the red flags, Zach's gonna be pissed, the boys
41:13
Speaker 1: are gonna be pissed, and then maybe we'll end right
41:16
Speaker 1: before the wedding and maybe the next episode, which is
41:18
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be gone, Yeah, is gonna be the
41:20
Speaker 1: wedding and then maybe the drama at the wedding, but
41:24
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get the wedding and also
41:26
Speaker 1: the sit down with Veronica where the entire family confronts her.
41:30
Speaker 1: So I feel like the family confronts Veronica after the wedding, right.
41:34
Speaker 2: It kind of feels like it's going now, it's not.
41:36
Speaker 1: Gonna happen tonight right in the timeline of the show. Like, no,
41:40
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think Kim
41:42
Speaker 1: is bitching about Veronica yet, like having learned that Veronica
41:45
Speaker 1: has been talking about it. So I think we're gonna
41:46
Speaker 1: have the wedding and then people are going to learn
41:49
Speaker 1: that Veronica instigated the drama at the wedding, and then
41:52
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a sit down. So maybe the finale
41:55
Speaker 1: is not until I come back from des Moines.
41:57
Speaker 2: That would be nice. That would be great, a gift
41:59
Speaker 2: from God.
41:59
Speaker 1: Yes.
42:00
Speaker 2: Well, and at the wedding in the preview, it seems
42:03
Speaker 2: like there's talks of objections, like could you imagine if
42:07
Speaker 2: the brothers sat up and were like I object and
42:10
Speaker 2: cause this huge strife for Lydia.
42:12
Speaker 1: I think I feel like that's a production fake out.
42:15
Speaker 1: I too feel like they won't do that. But it's
42:17
Speaker 1: the Plath boys. I mean, they're so inappropriate and grody.
42:22
Speaker 2: Peeling off and throwing tables like I wouldn't put it
42:25
Speaker 2: past them.
42:25
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised.
42:26
Speaker 2: Oh I object. Yeah, I don't know, man, this is
42:29
Speaker 2: getting wild. Shit, it's getting tense. I was kind of
42:32
Speaker 2: triggered this episode because it was just like too much.
42:34
Speaker 1: It's a lot going on. People are like at high alert.
42:37
Speaker 1: People are very negative.
42:38
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
42:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was entertained.
42:41
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, for sure, for sure?
42:43
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42:46
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42:49
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42:51
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42:54
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