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- 0:02Speaker 1: Sports, and as Shy Damadi is back with us, it's
- 0:05Speaker 1: good to see you, Shy and hope that you got
- 0:07Speaker 1: some rest after that trade deadline.
- 0:09Speaker 2: So let's start here, just nice and simple.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Did you give a grade out to the Blue Jays
- 0:15Speaker 1: for their trades?
- 0:16Speaker 2: What did you do?
- 0:18Speaker 3: Didn't formally give a grade, but I felt like this
- 0:21Speaker 3: was a very Blue Jays type of deadline where they
- 0:25Speaker 3: addressed all the things that they needed. They didn't necessarily
- 0:28Speaker 3: get the names that people were linking them to, but
- 0:32Speaker 3: they paid a reasonable price in prospects where you know,
- 0:36Speaker 3: you look at some of the other deals that were
- 0:37Speaker 3: made in the market and you know, they avoided the
- 0:40Speaker 3: volume prospect type of deal with a lot of one
- 0:43Speaker 3: for ones two for two's, and they got a piece
- 0:47Speaker 3: with some long term control in Louis Varland, who's got
- 0:50Speaker 3: a chance to be a factor for an extended period.
- 0:53Speaker 4: So it was a very Blue Jays.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Type of type of deadline, and I had to give
- 0:57Speaker 3: it a grade. I think it's probably like a BB plus.
- 1:00Speaker 3: You know, they got their needs. Maybe they could have
- 1:03Speaker 3: done a little bit more on the offensive side and
- 1:05Speaker 3: added a bit more impact there, but I think in
- 1:08Speaker 3: terms of addressing their pitching.
- 1:10Speaker 4: I mean they did that and to some.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Degree, a lot of this will depend on what version
- 1:15Speaker 3: of Shane Bieber they get backed as well.
- 1:17Speaker 5: Yeah, and you look at Shane Bieber to add to
- 1:19Speaker 5: their rotation which they were last year. They were speculating
- 1:23Speaker 5: on kind of having augh fire sale getting rid of
- 1:24Speaker 5: some of those guys at the deadline because of some
- 1:27Speaker 5: injuries and some you know, trouble going up to the deadline.
- 1:31Speaker 5: But they didn't do anything. They kind of stayed pat
- 1:32Speaker 5: and they added this winner and they added this trade deadline.
- 1:35Speaker 5: What can you say for that front office to kind
- 1:37Speaker 5: of stand true to what they believed in with this
- 1:39Speaker 5: young core that's finally staying healthy and preparing and playing
- 1:42Speaker 5: well this year.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Lances is exactly the outcome they were
- 1:47Speaker 3: hoping for. Right when they had the sell off last year.
- 1:50Speaker 3: They held on to everybody who had who wasn't an
- 1:55Speaker 3: expiring free and except for Isaiah Kiner Falefa, and they
- 1:58Speaker 3: were just they just really like Charles matt could do
- 2:00Speaker 3: the player they got back from the Pirates in that deal.
- 2:02Speaker 3: So that led to that trade. But they wanted to reset.
- 2:06Speaker 3: They wanted to restock the upper levels of their farm
- 2:09Speaker 3: system and it's really worked out to where they've gotten
- 2:13Speaker 3: the bounce back. You know, George Springer has been a
- 2:15Speaker 3: big part of this. Alejandra Kirk has been a big
- 2:17Speaker 3: part of this, and then contributions from guys who had
- 2:20Speaker 3: been on the roster taking a step forward, be it
- 2:23Speaker 3: Ernie Clement or Nathan Lucas Males Straws new to the team,
- 2:26Speaker 3: he's been an important factor. Joey Luperfido and while he
- 2:32Speaker 3: was while he was with the Blueshie before he got traded,
- 2:34Speaker 3: Will Wagner, they had their moments contributing to the club.
- 2:37Speaker 3: So they really had the almost dream scenario where you know,
- 2:43Speaker 3: you sell off your pieces because one year goes totally
- 2:46Speaker 3: sideways on you, but you stay with the plan and
- 2:50Speaker 3: are able to turn it around the next year and
- 2:53Speaker 3: put yourself in a position.
- 2:54Speaker 4: To buy.
- 2:57Speaker 6: Beeking out a Shane Bieber, he hasn't thrown a big
- 2:59Speaker 6: league pitch year. What are they expecting him to come
- 3:02Speaker 6: out and do his first couple starts? So they expect
- 3:05Speaker 6: him to go out and go seven innings? Are they
- 3:06Speaker 6: looking at five innings? Build him up and hope he
- 3:09Speaker 6: can be somewhat successful in that role.
- 3:12Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a moving target there, aj
- 3:15Speaker 4: in that.
- 3:17Speaker 3: You know, there they understand he's coming off TJ. But
- 3:20Speaker 3: you know, his last couple of rehab addings, including one
- 3:23Speaker 3: yesterday with Triple A Buffalo, I've gone really well, and
- 3:26Speaker 3: he was talking about targeting five innings seventy seventy five pitches.
- 3:30Speaker 3: He was too efficient for his own good, so he
- 3:33Speaker 3: ended up in the low sixties in that one. But
- 3:35Speaker 3: presumably the next time, you know, the pitch would probably
- 3:39Speaker 3: be six innings, you know, seventy seventy five pitches, And
- 3:42Speaker 3: as long as there's no hiccup physically, really right now,
- 3:46Speaker 3: it's just a volume game for him and trying to
- 3:48Speaker 3: build up that stamina in order to be able to
- 3:51Speaker 3: haul innings. And I think the big question is what
- 3:54Speaker 3: are they going How are they going to integrate him
- 3:56Speaker 3: into the rotation.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Once he is ready.
- 3:58Speaker 3: You know, he's got about just under two weeks left
- 4:01Speaker 3: in that rehab assignment. As long as there's no hiccups,
- 4:03Speaker 3: you're talking about a mid August entrance into the Blue
- 4:06Speaker 3: Jays rotation. And so are they going to a six man?
- 4:10Speaker 3: Is someone taking a break for a little bit. I
- 4:12Speaker 3: don't foresee anyone going to the bullpen under that scenario,
- 4:16Speaker 3: how did they handle that? And then I think you
- 4:18Speaker 3: want to have a little bit of runway with Bieber
- 4:22Speaker 3: just to see how is he performing, how is he
- 4:24Speaker 3: bouncing back, because ideally you want him pitching in a
- 4:28Speaker 3: postseason series, assuming the Blue Jays get there. So I
- 4:32Speaker 3: think a lot of that is still to be determined
- 4:34Speaker 3: based on how the next few weeks play out.
- 4:38Speaker 4: But I think right.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Now he's on a trajectory to carry some innings for
- 4:42Speaker 3: this team.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I love the move because you also can't make major
- 4:46Speaker 1: deals the rest of the way here.
- 4:47Speaker 2: We don't have the waiver deadline anymore.
- 4:49Speaker 1: So if you do take a hit to your rotation
- 4:51Speaker 1: and injuries happen all the time with arms, you've got
- 4:53Speaker 1: an extra guy here, and that extra guy, like you said,
- 4:55Speaker 1: if he's good, he's going.
- 4:56Speaker 2: To start a playoff game for them. So that's my
- 4:58Speaker 2: next question.
- 4:58Speaker 1: If Bieber is to his normal self when he comes
- 5:01Speaker 1: back to the Bigs, what do you think the playoff
- 5:04Speaker 1: rotation looks like with the Blue Jays in a short
- 5:06Speaker 1: series in a best of five.
- 5:08Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is actually funny, Scott, because I was
- 5:11Speaker 3: having this conversation with some.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Colleagues last night in a little bit this morning too.
- 5:15Speaker 3: And you know, there's a part of me that's like
- 5:18Speaker 3: they may have their hands tied a little bit because
- 5:20Speaker 3: they may need games one point fifty nine, sixty sixty one,
- 5:23Speaker 3: sixty two to secure that playoff spot and they may
- 5:27Speaker 3: just have to roll out based on who's fresh. Right,
- 5:31Speaker 3: So this some of this conversation may be neot but
- 5:35Speaker 3: you obviously want Bieber as part of that mix. You know,
- 5:38Speaker 3: Kevin Gosman's got to be part of that mix.
- 5:41Speaker 4: Uh. And then you look at it, it's like if.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Max sures or continues to look the way that he
- 5:45Speaker 3: has of lately, like do you not want him when
- 5:48Speaker 3: all that experience and all that.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Fire in your rotation?
- 5:53Speaker 5: Uh?
- 5:53Speaker 3: And then but you know, Chris Fass and Jose Burrios
- 5:55Speaker 3: are two essential guys who have gotten you there.
- 5:58Speaker 4: How do you sit those guys out?
- 6:01Speaker 3: You know, you know, Chris Bassett is someone who can
- 6:05Speaker 3: is versatile enough that he can come out of the
- 6:08Speaker 3: bullpen if you need. And you know, like just judging
- 6:12Speaker 3: by the Blue Jays in the last few times have
- 6:13Speaker 3: been in the postseason, they always look to do something
- 6:16Speaker 3: creative with their rotation and whether it's you know, having
- 6:20Speaker 3: a guy handle half a game and then moving someone
- 6:22Speaker 3: else and later the game.
- 6:24Speaker 4: There's a lot of creativity there, so I you know,
- 6:27Speaker 4: maybe to some.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Extent guys are pitching to to figure out how it's
- 6:31Speaker 3: going to line up. But assuming they have some flexibility,
- 6:35Speaker 3: I think there'll be a lot of matchup that goes
- 6:37Speaker 3: into it as well.
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- 7:35Speaker 7: Go for it.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point on some of the starters
- 7:39Speaker 1: moving to the bullpen in the playoffs. Do you think
- 7:41Speaker 1: that was part of the process in their minds for
- 7:44Speaker 1: not seeking out one of those big, big, high leverage relievers.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I know they picked up some help there, but did
- 7:50Speaker 1: you feel like they should have gone for it and
- 7:53Speaker 1: acquired one of those high leverage arms or been in
- 7:56Speaker 1: conversations for one of those big boys. I mean, it's
- 7:58Speaker 1: not necessarily Mason Miller in the more and a half
- 8:00Speaker 1: years of control, but there were plenty of other arms
- 8:02Speaker 1: that you know, we're able to land with teams where
- 8:05Speaker 1: they're going to be probably eighth or ninth inning guys.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Do you think that they should have been, you know,
- 8:10Speaker 1: thinking about October with some of these moves more.
- 8:14Speaker 4: Well, I do.
- 8:14Speaker 3: I think they were, But I also think that they
- 8:17Speaker 3: addressed it in their own way, right Like I think
- 8:21Speaker 3: to a certain extent, if you look at the let's
- 8:23Speaker 3: let's use Duran for example.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Like the Blue Jays didn't.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Really have a package that lined up with that, like
- 8:30Speaker 3: once if Mick Abel's in the deal, Like, I don't
- 8:33Speaker 3: think the Blue Ja's had a piece that's you know,
- 8:36Speaker 3: on the verge of big league ready from a pitching
- 8:38Speaker 3: perspective like that, with the type of potential that they
- 8:41Speaker 3: could surrender. So you know, I think to some degree
- 8:46Speaker 3: it was they maximized. And this is typical of their deadlines,
- 8:50Speaker 3: is that they used the pieces that they want to
- 8:54Speaker 3: trade away, the one the guys who maybe they feel
- 8:57Speaker 3: aren't guaranteed to be a part of their few down
- 9:01Speaker 3: the road, and then try to make the best deal
- 9:04Speaker 3: using those prospects. And so there there's a little bit
- 9:08Speaker 3: of column A, a little bit of column be there. But
- 9:11Speaker 3: could they have added another leverage reliever? I think that
- 9:14Speaker 3: probably would have been great for them. You know, Jimmy
- 9:17Speaker 3: Garcia is you know, you know some extent, Sir Anthony
- 9:21Speaker 3: Dominguez replaces Jimmy Garcia, Louis Varland adds another piece.
- 9:26Speaker 4: But if you get one more guy.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Now you're really deep in the bullpen. But you know
- 9:32Speaker 3: that that one didn't work out, and I think the
- 9:34Speaker 3: Blue Jays need to hope that the cortisone shot that
- 9:37Speaker 3: Jimmy Garcia recently received in his elbow, you know, takes
- 9:40Speaker 3: and he's able to come back and be Jimmy Garcia,
- 9:42Speaker 3: because if Garcia can factor into this bullpen, then that
- 9:46Speaker 3: that's a huge, huge difference.
- 9:49Speaker 5: You see the Red Sox overtake the Yankees in the
- 9:52Speaker 5: standings that Jay's had been playing quite well as of Lake,
- 9:55Speaker 5: It's going to be looks like there's going to be
- 9:56Speaker 5: a nice push for who's going to be the number
- 9:58Speaker 5: one spot here in the East. What do you see
- 10:01Speaker 5: from the Jays to maybe write some of what's been
- 10:03Speaker 5: going on and what can maybe push them for the
- 10:05Speaker 5: division titles.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're having the kind of lull that
- 10:11Speaker 3: you know, some people around the team was like, you
- 10:13Speaker 3: know this is coming at some point because they were
- 10:15Speaker 3: so hot for a couple of months there, and uh,
- 10:18Speaker 3: you know they were sort of due for a blip.
- 10:20Speaker 3: But they've been to me, the thing that stuck out,
- 10:23Speaker 3: they've been uncharacteristically, uncharacteristically sloppy in the field, right like
- 10:29Speaker 3: the series in Baltimore against the Orioles especially, Uh, that
- 10:34Speaker 3: was they just just didn't look like themselves.
- 10:36Speaker 4: Right.
- 10:36Speaker 3: This is typically a team that's cleaned defensively does a
- 10:39Speaker 3: pretty good job of executing in a number of different ways.
- 10:42Speaker 4: Uh, and that hasn't been there.
- 10:44Speaker 3: And you know the past few days they've just been
- 10:46Speaker 3: a little bit colder offensively.
- 10:48Speaker 4: Uh, you know, minus.
- 10:49Speaker 3: George Springer who's dealing with the concussion, and they had
- 10:53Speaker 3: been without Alejandra Kirk, who just returned, uh on yesterday
- 10:57Speaker 3: from the concussion aisle as well. So I think that
- 11:01Speaker 3: there was some hope that Springer could be ready for them.
- 11:04Speaker 3: You know, if not tomorrow, then the day after that, that.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Would be a big boost for the lineup.
- 11:10Speaker 3: You know, if they start hitting again, getting back to
- 11:12Speaker 3: offensive production, you know, that will obviously be something that
- 11:16Speaker 3: will carry them. But you know, they generally had pretty
- 11:20Speaker 3: good pitching and been able to take care of the ball,
- 11:24Speaker 3: and they get back to that, and then I think
- 11:26Speaker 3: that we'll start seeing the Blue Jays play a bit
- 11:29Speaker 3: better than they have over the past week.
- 11:32Speaker 6: Shuy, what about Eric Lauer? You didn't even mention him.
- 11:35Speaker 6: He's pitching and he's doing all right. Why why don't
- 11:37Speaker 6: we talk about Eric flower Man?
- 11:39Speaker 3: Honestly, he does not get enough praise because when he
- 11:44Speaker 3: came up, it was late April, early May, and he
- 11:49Speaker 3: was a life saver for this team when they were
- 11:51Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. And there's this rotation, you know.
- 11:53Speaker 3: I mean they went essentially two months without a fifth starter,
- 11:57Speaker 3: kind of making it up as they went along, and
- 12:00Speaker 3: you know, Loward just kept pitching better and better and
- 12:03Speaker 3: better and really forced himself into that fifth starter spot.
- 12:07Speaker 3: And uh that was great because you know, Justice Justice
- 12:11Speaker 3: Maxterzer was ready to return bout In Francis, who had
- 12:14Speaker 3: been struggling, had been grinding through an impingement in his shoulder.
- 12:18Speaker 3: You know that that got to the point that he
- 12:20Speaker 3: couldn't keep pitching anymore.
- 12:22Speaker 4: And you know he's.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Someone that is trying to rehab his way back right now.
- 12:26Speaker 3: He's supposed to start throwing here relatively shortly, so he
- 12:29Speaker 3: may be able to factor for this team at some point.
- 12:32Speaker 3: But you know, without Eric lower this this thing could
- 12:34Speaker 3: have cracked. And uh, he was He's been tremendously important
- 12:39Speaker 3: and he's been great, Like you know, he's a guy
- 12:41Speaker 3: who absolutely deserves consideration for a playoff start too. Uh
- 12:44Speaker 3: And you know, do you want to do you want
- 12:46Speaker 3: to lefty in there? How do you want to play
- 12:48Speaker 3: that out? I think the Blue Jays are in a
- 12:50Speaker 3: spot right now where they've got a lot of good
- 12:52Speaker 3: decisions to make, a lot of you know, a lot
- 12:54Speaker 3: of good problems to have from a from a starting
- 12:56Speaker 3: pitching standpoint. But you know, I think one thing worth
- 12:59Speaker 3: keeping and on with him is that you know, this
- 13:02Speaker 3: is the most innings he's he's thrown since twenty two
- 13:06Speaker 3: with Milwaukee, So it's been a while since he's gotten
- 13:09Speaker 3: to triple digits. And so what does that do for
- 13:13Speaker 3: him as he gets towards the end of August, in
- 13:15Speaker 3: this September, is he's still as sharp. If he is,
- 13:18Speaker 3: then that's going to be certainly a good situation for
- 13:20Speaker 3: the Blue Jays.
- 13:22Speaker 6: All Right, So we have a thing on ft. You
- 13:24Speaker 6: got to make your bed before you come on. If
- 13:26Speaker 6: you have two beds, by the way a party fell
- 13:29Speaker 6: the fact you have two beds, but neither beds made.
- 13:31Speaker 6: So do you sleep in both beds? How do you
- 13:33Speaker 6: choose which bed to sleep in?
- 13:35Speaker 3: So legitimately, these are these beds are made, This was
- 13:38Speaker 3: the way that they were made. They've just got like
- 13:42Speaker 3: a partial fold there.
- 13:43Speaker 4: One of them is a little rougher than the other
- 13:45Speaker 4: because I was working on it. But but yeah.
- 13:48Speaker 3: This is uh, you know it is, it is made.
- 13:52Speaker 3: I'll endeavor next time to clean it up for you guys.
- 13:56Speaker 6: Okay, hey, where's Mania having where's Alec Manoah?
- 14:01Speaker 3: Yeah, so he should be next outing in Double A.
- 14:04Speaker 3: That was still being finalized. So I believe the next
- 14:07Speaker 3: next rehabititing is going to be in Double A. And
- 14:10Speaker 3: so you know he could enter into this mix too, uh,
- 14:14Speaker 3: you know. For it's interesting because I was talking to
- 14:17Speaker 3: Robbie Ray during the All Star Game and he, you know,
- 14:22Speaker 3: he's still in touch with Alec Minau friends from their
- 14:25Speaker 3: time in Toronto, and they were talking about their experiences
- 14:29Speaker 3: returning from Tommy John and one thing that Robbie Ray said,
- 14:32Speaker 3: and you know, they're obviously different pitchers, but Manoa is
- 14:36Speaker 3: more Robbie ray Ish than he is Shane Bieberish, and
- 14:39Speaker 3: that you know that when you come back, you feel different,
- 14:43Speaker 3: and some days the ball comes out really well and
- 14:47Speaker 3: you're like, okay, I'm ready to go, and then you
- 14:49Speaker 3: get on the mount and like you have no idea
- 14:52Speaker 3: what's happening, and everything feels right, but all the results
- 14:55Speaker 3: are wrong and there's nothing you can do about it,
- 14:57Speaker 3: just part of the process. And you know, maybe a
- 15:00Speaker 3: little bit different for Bieber because he's more of a
- 15:02Speaker 3: finesse guy. Manoa would be more akin to a power
- 15:05Speaker 3: guy than a finesse guy like Ray. You know what happens,
- 15:10Speaker 3: you know, well, will Alec Manoa have those type of hiccups.
- 15:12Speaker 3: He hasn't so far, which is certainly good. But yeah,
- 15:17Speaker 3: when when I mentioned that the Blue Jays are gonna
- 15:19Speaker 3: have some tough decisions to make, you know, Manoa can
- 15:21Speaker 3: certainly factor into those difficult decisions that lay ahead for
- 15:24Speaker 3: the Blue Jays.
- 15:26Speaker 1: I hope we get Alec Manoa's super reliever return and
- 15:29Speaker 1: he's just you know, hopping and popping on the mound
- 15:32Speaker 1: doing his best lancel In impression.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Oh man, I would like to see that.
- 15:36Speaker 5: He'd be fun to see in the back end in
- 15:37Speaker 5: the playoffs, that's for sure, especially if he if he's
- 15:40Speaker 5: not stretched out enough, man, that might be the perfect
- 15:42Speaker 5: little play for him down the down the stretch and
- 15:44Speaker 5: help the team and then be ready to go into
- 15:45Speaker 5: And that'd be exciting.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And it would be a bit of
- 15:50Speaker 3: an adjustment from the for the Blue Jays too, because
- 15:52Speaker 3: they typically haven't done that with starters, like use them
- 15:55Speaker 3: at a as relievers coming out of Tommy John.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Uh.
- 15:59Speaker 3: But you know, maybe like Manoah's mentality would probably would
- 16:03Speaker 3: definitely play in that kind of environment. But you know, physically,
- 16:07Speaker 3: is that the right thing for him? I think that that,
- 16:09Speaker 3: to me is the obvious question. But if like physically
- 16:13Speaker 3: they can make it work, you know, maybe that's that's
- 16:15Speaker 3: another way to bolster the bullpen. As you're getting into
- 16:17Speaker 3: the home strutcher.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I would love to see it. Shi, great to catch
- 16:21Speaker 1: up with you, Thanks for the time, yes, Aj.
- 16:23Speaker 6: Last word, Shu Shuy. You know what the best cure
- 16:26Speaker 6: for a rough week is playing in Colorado against the Rockies.
- 16:31Speaker 3: You can definitely definitely turn the offensive numbers up the
- 16:35Speaker 3: right way, so it should be fun.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to feel good about yourself. Play the Rockies.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Who actually did trade a guy or two as well,
- 16:43Speaker 1: so you've got a depleted Colorado Rockies, which is weird
- 16:46Speaker 1: for them. They don't usually like to make trades at
- 16:47Speaker 1: the deadline. But anyway, another topic for another day. Shai,
- 16:51Speaker 1: great to talk to you, Thank you for the time.
- 16:52Speaker 1: We'll catch you soon, Okay, Yeah, good to see you guys.
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- 17:56Speaker 1: Foul We've got our buddy Sea Trentrants from the Athletic
- 18:01Speaker 1: covers the Cincinnati Reds.
- 18:03Speaker 2: See Trent, good to see you.
- 18:04Speaker 1: What did you think of the Bristol moment this weekend
- 18:09Speaker 1: for the Reds against the Braves? Like give us everything,
- 18:12Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the foodless.
- 18:17Speaker 7: It was something that's for sure, you know. Like, so
- 18:20Speaker 7: I went down. I drove down Friday after the Reds
- 18:25Speaker 7: Braves game, and I was staying about ninety minutes away
- 18:29Speaker 7: in Kodak Kodiak, so that I would sleep and drive
- 18:34Speaker 7: over the next morning and then cover the game, have
- 18:39Speaker 7: adrenaline dright back. I'm not much closer to home at
- 18:44Speaker 7: the time. That was a really good idea. It's sort
- 18:47Speaker 7: of what I did at Field of Dreams a couple
- 18:49Speaker 7: of years ago. What I was not counting on and
- 18:52Speaker 7: apparently I'm not alone was rain and lots of it.
- 18:57Speaker 7: And oh my gosh was their rain. So yeah, so uh,
- 19:01Speaker 7: I got back to the hotel about two that night
- 19:04Speaker 7: and I overslept and like, I'm going home, So I
- 19:08Speaker 7: went home. So I did not I saw four outs
- 19:09Speaker 7: of baseball there.
- 19:12Speaker 2: It was.
- 19:15Speaker 7: It was interesting.
- 19:16Speaker 6: They did a better job with I'm sorry, did they
- 19:22Speaker 6: feed you? That's what I want to know, did you
- 19:23Speaker 6: run the press box? Because nothing is worse than angry
- 19:27Speaker 6: media members that can't get their food in the press box. Okay,
- 19:31Speaker 6: it's you're you're not wrong.
- 19:35Speaker 7: Yeah, they we had like vouchers to go down to
- 19:38Speaker 7: the concession stands, and I guess I visited before. Uh
- 19:42Speaker 7: they ran out of stuff and uh then they brought
- 19:46Speaker 7: pizza later. So during one of the delays. I don't
- 19:50Speaker 7: remember which one, probably the second one, but yeah, no,
- 19:54Speaker 7: it was quite the quite the thing.
- 19:57Speaker 2: It was.
- 19:58Speaker 7: Yeah, I underst like if everything went right, it would
- 20:03Speaker 7: have been super cool. And everything didn't go right.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Trent, what was the food situation so you caught it before?
- 20:12Speaker 1: Like was it a good array? And then did you
- 20:15Speaker 1: catch it you know post food run out? Like did
- 20:17Speaker 1: they run this correctly? Because I mean it's not like
- 20:20Speaker 1: the raceway hasn't held events before. But I'm sure you
- 20:23Speaker 1: saw social media going nuts. People were like, we're trapped,
- 20:27Speaker 1: we're hungry, help us.
- 20:30Speaker 7: I talked to my friends. It's you know, the fire
- 20:32Speaker 7: festival comparisons or up there. You know what. What is
- 20:36Speaker 7: interesting because of the layout of it, we were away
- 20:42Speaker 7: from most of the fans because, like you know, if
- 20:45Speaker 7: you look, there's the track, and if anybody's ever covered
- 20:49Speaker 7: racing or gone to a racing event or whatever, you
- 20:51Speaker 7: tunnel under the track. There's a tunnel that goes under
- 20:54Speaker 7: and that's how you get to the infield.
- 20:56Speaker 2: And so.
- 20:58Speaker 7: The most of the ticket were in the in the
- 21:02Speaker 7: actual stands, and then we were in the infield, so
- 21:06Speaker 7: I didn't get a whole lot. I had a friend
- 21:08Speaker 7: that had tickets in the infield, but even when he
- 21:12Speaker 7: walked in, he goes, dude, they didn't have any Reds.
- 21:15Speaker 4: Like.
- 21:15Speaker 7: They sold out a Red's merchandise almost immediately. He was like,
- 21:20Speaker 7: there was a ton of Brave stuff because they were expecting,
- 21:23Speaker 7: I guess mostly Braves fans, and it turned out to
- 21:26Speaker 7: be maybe predominantly Reds fans. So the Reds merch Like
- 21:31Speaker 7: when he told me this was two hours before the
- 21:32Speaker 7: first pitch, that they'd already run out of Red's merch
- 21:37Speaker 7: and then anything that had both teams was just about gone.
- 21:42Speaker 7: And then that was before the food scare. And then yeah,
- 21:45Speaker 7: I had a I you know, basically they just give
- 21:50Speaker 7: his vouchers to go to the concession stand. The concession
- 21:52Speaker 7: stand that was on the infield. I ordered a spicy
- 21:55Speaker 7: chicken sandwich, and I can tell you it wasn't spicy.
- 21:58Speaker 7: I can't tell you whether it was chicken, but you know, uh,
- 22:02Speaker 7: it was fine. I tried never to complain about the
- 22:06Speaker 7: food situation because it's just you know, it's what it is,
- 22:11Speaker 7: and you know what you're going in for.
- 22:14Speaker 6: Yeah, media members never complain about food situations.
- 22:17Speaker 7: No oh no, no, I said, I said, I don't aja.
- 22:21Speaker 6: Come my colleagues. Okay, let me let me say this.
- 22:26Speaker 6: You didn't get to watch the broadcast because you were there,
- 22:28Speaker 6: But they did have some really cool moments. Fox did
- 22:31Speaker 6: with a lot of the stuff pregame was unbelievable. The
- 22:33Speaker 6: coverage itself was with the drones and everything. I mean,
- 22:36Speaker 6: you have to give David Ortiz credit. He went to
- 22:38Speaker 6: a bar and was like giving people drinks in a bar.
- 22:41Speaker 6: So you were at the wrong place. Apparently you could
- 22:43Speaker 6: have got free drinks for your four outs. But the
- 22:45Speaker 6: one thing I thought that was hilarious. Did you see
- 22:47Speaker 6: the Reds pitchers trying to throw the balls from the
- 22:50Speaker 6: bullpen over the track into the fans. It was like
- 22:53Speaker 6: you're ever away and they're like crow hopping, and like, oh,
- 22:55Speaker 6: we can make it like all you needed was somebody
- 22:57Speaker 6: to get hurt doing that, right, But it was awesome
- 22:59Speaker 6: to seem try well.
- 23:02Speaker 7: And you know, that place is large and the track
- 23:07Speaker 7: is so big, and like, you know, you just kind
- 23:09Speaker 7: of look at the size of that track and then
- 23:10Speaker 7: the embankment and you're like, man, these guys do two
- 23:14Speaker 7: hundred miles an hour, like three or four wide on
- 23:16Speaker 7: this thing. That's insane. So it was really cool to see,
- 23:20Speaker 7: and like the setup was cool, the weather just was
- 23:23Speaker 7: not and the preparations like they just weren't prepared for it.
- 23:29Speaker 5: Well, let's go into the baseball side of things. The
- 23:33Speaker 5: Reds guy Keith Brian Hayes, and then you look at
- 23:35Speaker 5: them kind of trying to build making a little push
- 23:37Speaker 5: here in the wildcard spot. How do you see hidden
- 23:40Speaker 5: fitting in that lineup, especially playing a good defensive third
- 23:43Speaker 5: base and then help them push them into a wildcard spot.
- 23:47Speaker 7: Yeah, it was funny. You know, he was kind of
- 23:49Speaker 7: billed as the best defender in baseball and the worst hitter,
- 23:52Speaker 7: and then in his first game as a Red he
- 23:54Speaker 7: had an air and a three run homer. So you know,
- 23:59Speaker 7: that's baseball. Weird things happen every day, and it's all
- 24:02Speaker 7: about the long term.
- 24:03Speaker 2: You know.
- 24:04Speaker 7: What it does is this is a team that kind
- 24:06Speaker 7: of went on the margins and zagged when everybody else
- 24:09Speaker 7: was digging. You know, what they needed was a right
- 24:12Speaker 7: handed outfield bat, and the way they did that was
- 24:15Speaker 7: adding a right field or right handed third base bat
- 24:19Speaker 7: and glove. So they moved Noelvie Marte from third to
- 24:24Speaker 7: right field, and honestly, you could see that he was
- 24:28Speaker 7: excited to go to the outfield. It's it's not something
- 24:30Speaker 7: he's ever done before, but he just wasn't looking comfortable
- 24:34Speaker 7: at third base, and I think maybe it got into
- 24:36Speaker 7: his head a little bit, but you know, he just
- 24:39Speaker 7: looked more relaxed and like a weight was off his
- 24:41Speaker 7: shoulders once he's kind of gone to the outfield. And
- 24:45Speaker 7: that's a guy who can hit. We'll see if he
- 24:47Speaker 7: can hit consistently at the big level, big league level,
- 24:50Speaker 7: but he can. And then they also upgraded the m
- 24:53Speaker 7: field defense. I mean, trying to get a ball through
- 24:56Speaker 7: the sixth hole between you know, between Ki, Brian Hayes
- 25:00Speaker 7: and Ellie de la Cruz, that's not happening, you know,
- 25:03Speaker 7: and you go back and you look at some of
- 25:05Speaker 7: the plays that Ellie has made or not made, and
- 25:08Speaker 7: their balls that he wouldn't even get to because Cabrian
- 25:11Speaker 7: Hayes would get to it first. Also, if you look
- 25:14Speaker 7: at the metrics, it's going to his left that where
- 25:17Speaker 7: he will struggle the most. Well with Cabrian Hayes to
- 25:21Speaker 7: his right, he can take a step or two to
- 25:22Speaker 7: the left and that'll help too. Then you have Matt
- 25:26Speaker 7: McClain on the other side, and then Spencer Steers turned
- 25:28Speaker 7: into a really good defensive first baseman. So the defensive
- 25:32Speaker 7: upgrade is reel over there at on on on the infield.
- 25:38Speaker 7: So I think that's what's going to happen, you know.
- 25:40Speaker 7: And and they take a risk of sorts because you
- 25:44Speaker 7: know he's this isn't a rental, this guy is. You know,
- 25:48Speaker 7: you signed a binding lease here and and and bought
- 25:52Speaker 7: it for the next four years. So it'll be interesting.
- 25:55Speaker 7: They think, you know, they they think they have some
- 25:58Speaker 7: things that can really help the bat come around to
- 26:00Speaker 7: where it's been. But so does everybody when they make
- 26:03Speaker 7: a trade like that. And we'll see how how it
- 26:05Speaker 7: goes once he's in here more. But the bottom line
- 26:08Speaker 7: is you got to say their defense is better.
- 26:11Speaker 6: Okay, what they see though, because they took a guy
- 26:14Speaker 6: and a lot of people will say, isn't a great
- 26:16Speaker 6: contract from a division rival who doesn't spend a lot
- 26:19Speaker 6: of money, And they said, oh, we can plug this
- 26:21Speaker 6: guy into our third basement. It's going to automatically improve
- 26:23Speaker 6: our team. I know he hit the home run his
- 26:25Speaker 6: first game, but is there something they can see? I
- 26:27Speaker 6: know you mentioned it, but what in particular they see
- 26:29Speaker 6: in a swing they can change, because if you talk
- 26:31Speaker 6: to people from Pittsburgh, they said, oh, he wasn't willing
- 26:33Speaker 6: to change. He was happy hitting ground balls.
- 26:37Speaker 7: Yeah, he And if you talk to him, he'll say, well,
- 26:41Speaker 7: Pittsburgh never even like approached me and asked me to
- 26:43Speaker 7: do things. So it's a it's a tough little situation.
- 26:48Speaker 7: But you know what they see is he makes good
- 26:51Speaker 7: swing decisions. He doesn't you know, his contact rates pretty
- 26:55Speaker 7: good and he's still when he does hit the ball.
- 26:59Speaker 7: It's so you know, they're just hoping basically that he
- 27:03Speaker 7: moves it up a little bit and that they can
- 27:05Speaker 7: see something in his swing where he'll get comfortable and
- 27:08Speaker 7: hit more line drives and that will make him a
- 27:11Speaker 7: better hitter. And you know, he doesn't have to be
- 27:13Speaker 7: a middle of the order hitter. If he is a
- 27:16Speaker 7: you know, if he is what a ninety oh ps
- 27:18Speaker 7: plus or even eighty five, you're talking a two to
- 27:21Speaker 7: three win player.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Trent.
- 27:25Speaker 1: What about the rest of the deadline for this team?
- 27:28Speaker 1: So okay, let's let's say, you know, things do work
- 27:31Speaker 1: out for them. They get Keith Ryan Hayes to find
- 27:33Speaker 1: a stroke or at least just be the league average
- 27:36Speaker 1: bat that he was a couple of years ago.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Great, right, fix the defense.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Now you add Lttel for rotation depth, and do har
- 27:43Speaker 1: to smash lefties. Grade the trade deadline for the Reds.
- 27:48Speaker 7: I give a good, solid B B plus. I think
- 27:51Speaker 7: there's no doubt that they're better. Linnell Goes pushes Nick
- 27:56Speaker 7: Martinez to the bullpen. So you add Nick Martinez to
- 27:59Speaker 7: the bullpen. And we've seen what Nick Cartinez has done
- 28:01Speaker 7: as a starter, but last year is so good as
- 28:03Speaker 7: a reliever when he's come in relief. This year he's
- 28:07Speaker 7: been really, he's been good. He is he is really
- 28:11Speaker 7: one of the big leaders on this team. And quite honestly,
- 28:15Speaker 7: it's it's pretty interesting that they came to him before
- 28:18Speaker 7: the game the other day and we're like, hey, you
- 28:20Speaker 7: know what, if we had a starter, are you cool
- 28:23Speaker 7: with it? And he's like, oh, yeah, sure, whatever, man,
- 28:25Speaker 7: I'll do whatever. And he says that and everybody says that,
- 28:28Speaker 7: but like, I actually believe Nick, and he's kind of
- 28:31Speaker 7: put in into play through his actions that he believes it.
- 28:35Speaker 7: And so then he goes in. He shoves against the
- 28:37Speaker 7: Dodgers and they're like, hey, we got this guy. You're
- 28:39Speaker 7: going to the bullpen, and he's like, all right, cool,
- 28:42Speaker 7: And that's just Nick. He's a he's a really really
- 28:47Speaker 7: good teammate. You know, you talk to people and they
- 28:49Speaker 7: just says off the charts, so you know. And then
- 28:54Speaker 7: that also means that if Hunter Green, who threw a
- 28:56Speaker 7: rehab start yesterday for Louisville, back pretty soon, you also
- 29:03Speaker 7: added to the bullpen Chase Burns, and I mean Chase
- 29:09Speaker 7: Burns as a starter. He's got some time to like,
- 29:12Speaker 7: really he needs to work on that third pitch. But
- 29:15Speaker 7: if he's coming out of the bullpen fastball slider and
- 29:20Speaker 7: this one hundred mile per hour fastball is probably his
- 29:22Speaker 7: second best pitch, you got something there. So you added
- 29:26Speaker 7: to your bullpen there as well. And that again is
- 29:30Speaker 7: all if everything goes as planned. But They're basically what
- 29:35Speaker 7: they saw was the price was out there that look
- 29:38Speaker 7: at what people paid for dominant relievers, and for them,
- 29:44Speaker 7: they may have two guys that they add to their
- 29:48Speaker 7: bullpen that weren't in the bullpen before that are real
- 29:51Speaker 7: difference makers. And then Anamar crushes lefties. You know, last
- 29:56Speaker 7: three years, I think he's third in ops against left
- 29:59Speaker 7: handers people with at least one hundred played appearances, and
- 30:02Speaker 7: it was behind like Judge and I forgot who else,
- 30:05Speaker 7: but Judge is pretty good. All right.
- 30:08Speaker 6: I just want to know the simple answer to this question.
- 30:11Speaker 6: Can they make the playoffs? They're what four games out
- 30:13Speaker 6: of a wildcard right now, and they got some tough
- 30:16Speaker 6: They got some tough teams coming up. They got the Cubs,
- 30:19Speaker 6: the Phillies, the Brewers, the Dodgers. I mean they have
- 30:23Speaker 6: a Blue Jays, the Mets, the Padres. This is not
- 30:26Speaker 6: an easy schedule that they have down the stretch. Can
- 30:28Speaker 6: this team do this and make the playoffs?
- 30:32Speaker 7: I think they can. I'm not gonna bet on it,
- 30:34Speaker 7: but you know, you look at the stretch they just
- 30:36Speaker 7: finished was pretty tough too. You know, you had the Dodgers,
- 30:40Speaker 7: You're in New York against the Yankees. You've had some
- 30:45Speaker 7: good teams, so I think there's quite a bit things
- 30:48Speaker 7: have to go right. There's there's no question. I don't
- 30:51Speaker 7: see them as a favorite to go to the playoffs.
- 30:53Speaker 7: But they do also have, you know, some teams they
- 30:59Speaker 7: haven't played coming up, and that the Pirates and the
- 31:02Speaker 7: Cardinals and and you just see all these other teams
- 31:05Speaker 7: kind of falling off and it'll be interesting. And San
- 31:09Speaker 7: Diego is always a weird team. We'll see what happens there.
- 31:13Speaker 7: You know, on paper, you always love them, and then
- 31:16Speaker 7: something can happen, so it'll be interesting. And that's that
- 31:19Speaker 7: one team that they're really fighting for that third spot
- 31:23Speaker 7: right now? Who are holding third spot? I you know,
- 31:27Speaker 7: I've seen five games be made up and lost pretty quickly,
- 31:30Speaker 7: so over two months. I think they can. I'm not
- 31:34Speaker 7: sure I think they will, but I think they can.
- 31:37Speaker 6: Okay, who's about to they take though? That's my question?
- 31:40Speaker 6: Because Brewers, Padres, Dodgers.
- 31:47Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, they're all by. I mean who do
- 31:50Speaker 7: we think? I don't know, Like here's the thing.
- 31:55Speaker 6: You think they're better than you just say they're better
- 31:59Speaker 6: than the Mets.
- 31:59Speaker 7: Did I I think they have a better rotation than
- 32:02Speaker 7: the Mets, okay, And I think they they might have
- 32:06Speaker 7: a better rotation than a lot of those teams. Most
- 32:10Speaker 7: of those teams, okay, And if you got to pitch,
- 32:13Speaker 7: if you gotta if you've got a rotation, you got
- 32:15Speaker 7: a chance. Like No, I don't think that they're better
- 32:20Speaker 7: than any of those teams. I think all those teams
- 32:22Speaker 7: are better. But I mean, the best team doesn't always win.
- 32:25Speaker 7: I mean, hell, the Arizona Diamondbacks. The Reds just barely
- 32:30Speaker 7: missed out to them in the playoffs two years ago,
- 32:32Speaker 7: and they go to the World Series, you know, like
- 32:36Speaker 7: it can happen, and I just don't. But I don't see.
- 32:39Speaker 7: I didn't see a move out there that erased all
- 32:43Speaker 7: that doubt in one fell swoop, you know, if they're
- 32:48Speaker 7: looking for bats. I mean, I think we could see
- 32:50Speaker 7: South Stewart sometime this year. And I'm a big believer
- 32:53Speaker 7: in South Stewart. Uh So, you've got some some guys
- 32:58Speaker 7: you got to cut and you just gotta play. You
- 33:00Speaker 7: also have Tito, and Tino's done this with teams with
- 33:04Speaker 7: more and less talent and every kind of different team
- 33:07Speaker 7: that there is. I give some credence to the Tito magic.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Real quick se Trent. I like south Stewart too. I
- 33:16Speaker 2: like the bat. Where's he playing, He's in the lineup,
- 33:22Speaker 2: that's where he plays.
- 33:26Speaker 7: He was a third baseman, but like I don't know,
- 33:27Speaker 7: there was questions whether you would stay at third anyway,
- 33:30Speaker 7: maybe second, Maybe he can play. We've I've seen a
- 33:34Speaker 7: lot of people in left field. A great American ballpark,
- 33:38Speaker 7: you can I mean, let's let's let's be real with this.
- 33:44Speaker 7: This ballpark actually helps your outfielders because it's either in
- 33:49Speaker 7: front of you or it's in the stands. So I
- 33:54Speaker 7: think there's there's a play. He's athletic enough. He's been
- 33:57Speaker 7: playing second base as well. I'm sure you can play
- 34:00Speaker 7: first base, left field. Uh. There's also a designated hitter
- 34:04Speaker 7: in the National League now, which is helpful.
- 34:07Speaker 1: So yeah, that's plenty of positions. They'll find a spot.
- 34:11Speaker 1: That's that's good stuff. Well, see Trent. Good catching up
- 34:14Speaker 1: with you.
- 34:17Speaker 6: We're in the Georgia. How when you play Old Miss
- 34:19Speaker 6: where Lance went to in Florida back to back, well
- 34:22Speaker 6: not back to back weeks, but two weeks in a row.
- 34:23Speaker 6: So I give you credit for having some guts to
- 34:26Speaker 6: wear that ugly hat.
- 34:28Speaker 7: I'm more worried about Lance's squad than yours.
- 34:31Speaker 6: Oh I liked it.
- 34:36Speaker 2: A basketball school.
- 34:39Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys enjoyed enjoying Mike White.
- 34:41Speaker 7: They got that basketball money now, yeah, exactly. That's we
- 34:46Speaker 7: just care about. Like football, like anything else, is just
- 34:50Speaker 7: for losers to talk about. It's like, yeah, oh yeah, Kentucky,
- 34:53Speaker 7: you can have it. That's fine. I see basketball. Come on.
- 35:00Speaker 7: National championships. Yeah. Oh you know what's really cool winning
- 35:06Speaker 7: back to back championships in football.
- 35:10Speaker 6: Yeah, Florida did that in basketball and had football at
- 35:12Speaker 6: the same time. So beat a tread.
- 35:15Speaker 7: Yeah that's long ago. You're living in the past again.
- 35:17Speaker 7: H a, it is there, it is Georgia.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's more excited, like that would have landed.
- 35:27Speaker 7: If it were if I were still in school. When
- 35:29Speaker 7: I was in school in Florida, picked our butts every year.
- 35:32Speaker 7: But get know, when was the last time Florida won
- 35:36Speaker 7: national championship?
- 35:38Speaker 6: They beat on miss last year and they won one
- 35:39Speaker 6: in March or April. April.
- 35:43Speaker 7: Man, that's that's huge. Okay, never mind, you're wrong, that's
- 35:47Speaker 7: the recruiting pitch.
- 35:50Speaker 2: Track. Can stop. We'll catch you soon, okay.
- 35:53Speaker 4: See guys,