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Is this ROCK BOTTOM for James Franklin and Penn State? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  He's pulling in one of the top three offensive players in the
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  league. We're going to be looking at
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  Aaron Judge and saying that he can't win the big game, Michael
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  Jordan said. I played 82 games.
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  You don't see LeBron doing that a game.
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  Where you got to go for? Four, I told you, giant feet,
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  Saquon Parker. At this
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  What is up, everybody? It is Aaron Fishman in tonight,
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  filling in for Errol Marks is down in Florida.
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  The mouth is down South. Yes, he is.
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  But we're still here with the great Jabba Chamberlain and of
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  course, Speedy Petty not taking calls exactly tonight because if
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  I'm hosting, that doesn't exactly work with the
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  soundboard. But we have a couple of people
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  calling in for a special segment on their beloved Penn State
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  football program, which is going through a lot of stuff tonight.
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  We got a whole bunch of great stories for you, A lot of
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  baseball, a little bit of football, but definitely some
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  playoff stuff that we got to get into with Speedy's stat.
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  Of the week, Speedy. Well, you may run like me, but
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  you hit like out of the week. So, Jared, what you got for us?
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  I mentioned to Jared in the private chat, he was like, oh,
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  if the Saints don't get the number one pick, we're going to
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  never going to forgive the Giants.
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  Well, the Saints became one of two teams to get their first win
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  of the season last week. The other one in the is the
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  Tennessee Titans because of one of the most bizarre collapses
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  we've ever seen from the Arizona Cardinals.
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  So my side of the week centers around many different parts of
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  that. The obviously the big one that
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  got the headlines, which was Amari Dimarcado doing exactly
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  what Adonai Mitchell did last week, dropping the ball before
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  the goal line. So interesting fact about that.
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  Two parts of it actually had the first one of those gaffes we
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  ever saw in NFL history doing it in 1985 when Pat Tilly dropped
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  the ball in similar fashion before the goal line play
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  against the Dallas Cowboys. There was one technically before
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  that too, but the guy he was with, the Raiders, had a guy he
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  flicked the ball in the air and he was just trying to celebrate
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  with the football at the time. So they technically had the
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  second one, but he had the first one that looked like that.
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  And the Cardinals have actually had two instances where it went
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  in their favor, including one last week where 2 Seattle
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  defenders collided after Seattle got an interception and then
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  Arizona recovered the ball. And then they also had one last
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  year too. James Conner forced the ball out
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  after defensive tackle Tier Tart for the Chargers got an
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  interception last week. So that's one part of it.
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  But there was also an even weirder play after that.
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  So Cam Ward throws an interception to Cardinals rookie
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  safety Dojreon Taylor Demerson. He intercepted the pass and
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  Tyler Lockett recovered it. So somebody forced it out and
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  then Tyler Lockett recovered it in the end zone for the Titans
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  touchdown. That is the first time a play
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  like that happened since Robert Meacham stripped the ball from
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  Commander safety Kareem Moore in 2009 and ran it back all the way
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  for a touchdown off of the turnover.
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  So it's the first time that's happened since then.
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  Just a side note for you, Jabba. This will be the first show, I'm
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  the first one ever to mention Nebraska on this show.
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  Going back to the first thing, Calvin Jones did that in. 19 No,
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  I had a hat on all show. OK, fine.
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  But I have the first one. I guess I say verbally.
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  Calvin Jones also did the same thing D Mercado did in 1992.
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  Just a side note for that. He's the only one that did it in
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  the 1990s. Both in the College of the NFL
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  level but that what happened there with Daughtry and Taylor
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  Demerson. The first time that happened
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  since 2009. So the Titans as a result of all
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  that came back and won after being down 21 to 6.
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  Since in the next Gen. stats era since 2014 they had the lowest
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  average win probability in any game that was won 12.2%
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  throughout the game and they end up winning the game.
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  Well, I guess that's what it's going to take for the Titans to
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  win this year. Let's Why don't we whip around
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  the rest of the NFL Week 5 coverage those.
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  Whip, whip, whip, whip around. All right, so the whip around
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  featuring 2/2 of Wes's guys, some Buckeye receivers going off
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  in his in this first game, a very good game.
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  The Tampa Bay Buccaneers 38 to 35 over the Seattle Seahawks and
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  Mecca Buca, Jackson Smith and Jigba definitely helping your
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  bet against Errol with his dominant performance and two
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  perceived busts in the draft of the 2018 draft.
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  Sam Darnold, I was just talking about in Baker Mayfield having
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  some insane performances in that one.
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  But it's Tampa that gets the win, 38 to 35, their third win
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  this season, on in the final seconds of the game.
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  Baker Mayfield stats this year in five games, 65% completion,
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  12183 yards, 10 touchdowns, one pick.
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  He's a dude. Wow, wow.
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  And a lot of that without Mike Evans.
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  Bucky Irving's hurt. Chris Godwin just came back and
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  he's not at 100%. This is wild.
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  They, they kind of said the same thing about him last year too,
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  when Mike Evans out and he like, he just finds a way to get it
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  done. Like he grows on you, you know,
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  it, it's, it's, it's something where it's like you may not have
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  liked him because he kind of, you know, whatever.
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  But then he just, he goes out and he keeps proving it and it's
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  he's fun to watch because you don't count them out.
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  Yeah, I don't think you can. And this was a great game.
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  I wanted us to start with this one.
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  It was back and forth. I do think Seattle is a pretty
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  good team. Sam Darnold had a monster game
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  for Seattle as well. Fell a little short.
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  You said it, speedy. I was on this guy Jackson, Smith
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  and Jigma. I'm a big fan of the of Jacksons
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  in the NFL this year, I guess. But Smith and Jigma is
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  fantastic. My one of my fantasy teams name
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  is I got Smith and Jigma and Jamir Gibbs.
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  It's Gibson, Smith and Jigby with it.
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  That's my team off of the great Will Smith.
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  I think that was a solid one. But he's a top three receiver
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  right now. Speedy.
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  I was right, 100% right. Especially PPR, that guys
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  killing it this season. He's got most of the target
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  share. He's around 100 yards every
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  game. He's the guy they want to throw
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  to. Right before his touchdown, I
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  was like, oh, just throw a skinny posted in jig, but the
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  back of the end zone. Sure enough, they call the play
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  because why wouldn't you want him running that?
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  Because he's that good. He's so good.
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  It just isn't enough to beat Baker Mayfield currently.
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  They got a really good field goal kicker to chase McLaughlin
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  the week before is hidden from 60.
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  He hits the clutch field goal and win this game in this one.
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  In my league with Errol and his friend the Beeve that's in our
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  comment section a lot, I actually have a bunch of guys
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  from that game on that team. I have najigva, I have a buka, I
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  have Baker and I have a kicker. So I ended up getting two O 6
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  this week combined with all that because of.
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  This bukas for real too. Yeah, did you see try to
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  pronounce his name? I didn't see it.
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  Oh, it was rough. The whole dais literally was
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  like looked at him and then and then he tried to say it again.
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  It was. Rough.
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  You know, if he if he was on his team, he would just call him
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  Bookie all the time. He would make something up for
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  sure. 100% Well, that's that first game.
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  Let's go to the next set of games we have.
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  We got we got the international flavor with this one, with the
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  Vikings playing two straight games in Europe.
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  They overcome their travel lag I guess to beat the Browns 21 to
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  17, Jordan Addison with a touchdown late in that game to
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  give the Vikings the lead and more dominance from Danny Dimes
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  and the Indianapolis Colts 40 to 6 over the the Raiders who they
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  won the first game of those. Sorry.
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  I've struggled since. I can't get myself to talk about
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  that yet, so let me talk about the Vikings.
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  Did you see the thing that came out today?
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  The Vikings said one of their field goals was blocked by a
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  string that was holding cameras in the stadium or something that
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  they were complaining that one of their field goals missed the
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  pulley cameras. Yeah, in over in London, but I
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  don't know. They still won anyway.
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  Jordan Addison was actually benched for the first quarter
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  because he ditched the team curfew and went out on the town
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  on in London by himself for the first time and then apologized
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  when he came back, sat him for the first quarter.
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  He gets the game-winning touchdown.
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  That guy's pretty good player, man.
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  The Vikings, it was Carson Wentz.
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  Carson Wentz was down for a second.
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  He came back. They didn't know who who the
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  backup was with some like undrafted quarterback, I think
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  supposed to come in. Carson Wentz still can kind of
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  play, you know, make your stomach turn, have him as your
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  quarterback. But it was good enough to be the
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  bad Browns team. Dylan Gabriel's first start
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  wasn't bad. I think he's bet the best
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  quarterback play that we've seen this year.
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  Flacco's obviously seems to be done at this point in his
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  career. Gabriel might be OK.
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  I mean, he's undersized as we know, but I thought he was
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  confident in that game and he kept it close.
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  That's better than the Browns have done all season.
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  So, you know, a good start for him, I guess, in the loss.
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  Yeah, I guess as far as the Colts, yeah, go ahead.
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  I was. Gonna say it's a good defense.
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  I was impressed with Gabriel too, like showing some
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  composure, showing some smarts as well.
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  And it just again, the Browns, they can only do so much with
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  limited offensive capabilities, offensive line injuries and he
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  made it work. I'll, I'll get him credit,
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  especially his first game internationally.
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  You got to get him some. Yeah, he he made some throws
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  that I I didn't think he could make.
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  And there I mean, there was ones where he's like, you know, only
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  only his player can get it. And you know, for coming into it
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  like he's kind of in a lose, lose situation.
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  Doesn't matter how great he does, they're still going to
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  suck or it doesn't matter how bad he does, they're still going
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  to suck. So it kind of kind of rough.
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  So just go and ball out and and do what you can.
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  All right, I'll do it. We're going to talk about
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  Daniel. Jones.
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  I just don't get it, man. I watched this guy for what was
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  it, 5 years, Speedy? Six years of the same thing over
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  and over and over again, making the same mistakes.
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  There were times where he looked as good as he does right now.
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  There were times and he gave you the hope, and I wanted to
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  believe in the hope a lot. It just never happened.
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  We had that one playoff season, you know, in his second year
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  with Dabo's second year, it it was supposed to be growth from
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  there. It didn't happen.
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  What is he doing this year? Daniel Jones has a 71%
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  completion percentage. He's got 12190 yards, 6
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  touchdowns, 2 picks. He's running the ball.
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  That team is a juggernaut. They have a great offensive line
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  behind Quentin Nelson, who is best guard in football in my
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  opinion. I, I mean, you can argue him or
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  Lichstrom, but I, I love Quentin Nelson, the way he plays.
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  He's just awesome. You have Jonathan Taylor, who's
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  the top five running back in football.
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  Whoever drafted him, pick the right guy this year.
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  Of course it wasn't me, but I wanted him and I think I
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  couldn't get him, unfortunately. What a great job by him.
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  And then you have Tyler Warren, who already is a top five tight
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  end. Immediately, for some reason,
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  the Bears thought Loveland would be just as good as him.
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  Not even close. Oh my God.
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  Tyler Warren's great and Michael Pittman's a good receiver.
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  Josh Downs is a good receiver. And that defense speedy.
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  Tell us a little bit about that Colts defense that made Geno
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  Smith throw his 9th interception, which by the way,
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  is the second most of in the first five games in NFL history
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  behind who's speedy. Daniel Jones, Famous James No.
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  It is Jets legend Zach Wilson. I thought you were, you see you
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  built up Daniel Jones. I think you're going to go back
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  to him. But Speaking of Daniel Jones,
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  before I get to my bid on that, joining us from Florida, we have
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  the host of our show coming in right to talk about some Daniel
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  Jones. Daniel Jones is a beast.
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  That's all I'm going to say about that.
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  How did I tell you guys about Daniel Jones?
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  I told you he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league this
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  year. He's proven it week in and week
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  out. You don't need to figure
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  anything out anymore. He is the quarterback of the
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  future for the Indianapolis Colts.
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  We saw it on Sunday. Once again, it doesn't matter
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  who he's going to, it doesn't matter who's running the ball.
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  If Fred Taylor, Fred Taylor, Boo Taylor, this Taylor, this guy is
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  the best quarterback in the league right now in the AFC, you
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  can argue he's been the most consistent 1.
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  You talk about Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen last night losing
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  against New England Patriots. This guy week in and week out
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  has showed off and done what he was supposed to do.
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  To me, the 2 best quarterbacks right now in the NFL, Daniel
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  Jones and Dak Prescott, there's no argument to that.
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  I've been telling you about these two quarterbacks.
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  They're up for the, to me, the MVP, Most Valuable Player.
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  They've been sensational on both sides.
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  When you look at the NFC and the AFC, there's nobody that can
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  challenge them in both the both conferences.
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  I think they're both have been sensational.
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  They got to keep it up. They got to keep playing the way
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  they are doing it. But Daniel Jones, baby, let's
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  run. Let's go for a title.
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  Indianapolis coach, I got a Danny Dimes jersey coming here,
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  baby, coming here. That'll that'll be where.
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  Well, hold on. Where are you at?
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  I'm. In my girl, I'm in my
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  girlfriend's father's. You know, this is his scene room
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  over here, his scene room. I don't know, man.
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  I, I, we got some sewing systems.
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  We got all different things. I'm sitting here just enjoying
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  myself wearing. By the way, it was like 9095°
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  winter humidity today. It was horrible.
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  I can't stand the weather. And I was sweating my butt off.
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  And you know, it's her father keeps the air conditioning up at
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  76. I mean, I'm sweating my balls
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  off. I got to put the fans on over
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  here, baby. 76 That's terrible. All right, let let's move on to
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  the next one. Yes, you're right.
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  Daniel Jones, 71%. Completely.
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  What did I say? What?
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  What did you say? Fish What?
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  What did you say? See, you would never do this.
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  You wouldn't say Errol. What did you?
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  There you go. Now you can.
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  Now you can come back and say I was right about Jackson Smith
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  and Jigba. Not yet, not yet.
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  Full season is still not a full season yet.
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  Let's win. We'll see.
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  Let's win all. Right, we got the Broncos
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  beating Errol's second favorite team, the Eagles 21 to 17, and
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  the Panthers in what a miserable game to watch.
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  That was 2724 over the Dolphins. The Dolphins below that game
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  after being up my God, quickly on the Panthers.
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  Dolphins game. Those teams are terrible.
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  Don't watch Panthers or Dolphins football the rest of the season.
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  I don't see Bryce. Bryce Young, I guess if you let
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  him hang around, he has enough juice in them to make comebacks,
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  but he's not particularly a good quarterback tag of Vailoa.
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  This might be his last season as a starting quarterback, too.
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  Wait a second, wait a second, hold on a second.
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  There was a record being broken in that game for the Carolina
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  Panthers. Some running back that ran over
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  200 yards and absolutely dominated the line of scrimmage.
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  Who was it? Who was legend?
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  Rico Dowdell. I rest my case ladies and
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  gentlemen. We got a chance to see a world
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  renowned running back running break records for the Carolina
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  Panthers. That was amazing.
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  So to say. It was an unwatchable game.
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  Watching what he did in the game was sensational.
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  You can take that to the bank with a yellow background.
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  You could you could have run for 95 yards against that defense.
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  That defense is so bad, my goodness.
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  But look, the game that we want to talk about are these two
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  Super Bowl contending teams, the Broncos and the Eagles.
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  That Broncos defense, after that one snafu earlier in the season
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  where I put my foot in my mouth, Arrow, yes, I remember.
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  You're absolutely right. They had that bad game.
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  They've been pretty darn good outside of that game this
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  season. They were able to shut down A.J.
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  Brown yet again. He has not done much all season.
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  Devonta Smith had a good game. Landon Dickerson went down in
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  this game. They're having some issues on
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  the line. The Eagles, they're not moving
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  the ball the same way. You know, it's, it's a problem
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  for them. Hopefully, you know they
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  continue to suck and get injuries and lose and don't come
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  back and repeat. That's all I have to say about
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  the Eagles. Yeah, Broncos, I want to mention
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  it. By them, they're a really good
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  team. I want to mention with the
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  Broncos, because I think they were a team that looks close for
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  a while, like they had a close loss to the Charters.
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  They lost close against the Colts when Danny Dimes had that
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  coming out party against against you would say it gets that top
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  defense and really showed what he could do in this cult system.
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  And then you look at you look at the Broncos.
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  They outplayed the charters like you were saying with with a
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  couple teams earlier, just had some costly turnovers in that
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  game, but they were losing. They were like they I don't know
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  if you know the deserve to win meter and hockey fish.
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  If they had one of those for football, like the Broncos
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  probably would have been higher rated than a lot of those teams.
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  Now they finally get one to go their way.
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  Very impressive comeback. It's a very tough defense.
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  Yeah, I kind of was going back and forth with Carter and, you
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  know, he was just like, it's not going to tap in, then it
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  happened and then whatever. But yeah, that game was fun to
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  watch from start to finish. And you know, I was checking in
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  here and there. But yeah, the ending, I was
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  locked in. And it'll be interesting to see
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  how how they play out for the rest of the year.
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  I think they got a shot. Bo Nicks was unbelievable in the
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  fourth quarter. You guys forget this.
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  Bo Nicks threw over 100 yards in the fourth quarter, absolutely
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  dominated the line of scrimmage. She dominated the Eagles
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  defense, which really you can argue has been the best defense,
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  the all around defense in the NFL all season long.
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  Fangiona is one of the best defensive coordinators in the
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  league and he couldn't stop Bo Nicks.
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  Sean Payton had a great game plan in the second-half of the
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  game when they were being completely dominated in the
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  first half by the Eagles. Jalen Hurts could not do
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  anything really in the second-half and it was a
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  complete domination defensively. It was a matter of different
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  halves. It went from domination for the
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  Eagles in the first half to domination of the Broncos in the
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  second-half. And it was Bonex, Bonex, Bonex.
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  I've been saying everything. It's still a sophomore year for
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  him. I want to see what he's going to
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  do all freaking season. But he was sensational in the
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  fourth quarter, absolutely outdueled Jalen Hurts, outdueled
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  that Eagles defense. Congratulations to Sean, Sean
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  Payne, who I think is one of the more successful offensive
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  coordinators and offensive minds we've seen in NFL history.
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  Andy reading him are two of the best of all time.
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  And by the way, one comes from the West Coast Offense and the
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  other comes from Bill Parcells. All right, moving on with the
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  game I was talking about in my state of the day, the Cardinals
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  at the collapse against the Titans.
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  Titans win 2221 and then the Ravens maybe hit rock bottom,
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  losing 44 to 10 to the Texans. So Cooper Rush is not Lamar
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  Jackson. You know the Texans.
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  Don't worry, the Beef still thinks he's better than DAC.
• 20:41
  So here's my problem with this game.
• 20:43
  CJ Stroud has really struggled this season and now he get his
• 20:47
  offensive lines bad. But the Ravens have
• 20:50
  statistically the worst defense in the NFL and that continues
• 20:53
  after this 44 to 10 loss against a team that couldn't do anything
• 20:56
  offensively against a lot of teams.
• 20:59
  But when you give CJ Stroud time, my goodness, does he throw
• 21:03
  a pretty ball. Does he seem to always hit it on
• 21:06
  the money? This is just a guy that needs
• 21:08
  protection. If they give him protection,
• 21:10
  that Texas, that Texans team is real good, man.
• 21:13
  They could be real talent. They still have good young
• 21:15
  players on that defense. I don't think they're quite
• 21:18
  there yet because I don't think they have the personnel on the
• 21:20
  lines, at least the offensive line, but they're not as bad as
• 21:25
  they looked early in the season. The Ravens, on the other hand,
• 21:29
  this could be the year from hell for them if Lamar doesn't come
• 21:32
  back quick and start winning immediately.
• 21:34
  I don't. I don't think this is a playoff
• 21:36
  team and it could get ugly real quick and we could see coaches
• 21:39
  leaving. They were already talking about
• 21:40
  defensive coordinator might being might be fired.
• 21:43
  John Harbaugh said he's not going to do it.
• 21:46
  He might have to change his mind if it gets better.
• 21:48
  And I got nothing to say on that Titans Cardinals debacle.
• 21:50
  You said it all in the Stat of the Week.
• 21:52
  Speeding. Yeah.
• 21:52
  I'll, I'll skip that because I said that already.
• 21:55
  Just a weird collapse from the Cardinals.
• 21:56
  But yeah, from the Ravens standpoint, you can't imagine a,
• 21:59
  a defense that has this much talent playing as bad as they
• 22:02
  have. I we knew they had some maybe
• 22:04
  some edge rush depth concerns, but beyond that, beyond that,
• 22:06
  they've been seemingly loaded. Zach Orr was being interviewed,
• 22:10
  not as a main candidate, but interviewed for head coaching
• 22:12
  positions. And since then, what is this
• 22:15
  defense doing? It just makes no sense against
• 22:17
  the worst offensive line in football and you can't even
• 22:19
  generate anything. Is is definitely concerning for
• 22:22
  the Ravens. They might again, it's the
• 22:24
  Steelers leading the division. Maybe they still sweep it out,
• 22:26
  but if they do, if they they, they'll get in and maybe like 10
• 22:30
  and seven at best. Yeah, it's it's, it's, it's
• 22:34
  weird when you see all these teams be successful and then
• 22:36
  like they get old and it's weird to see.
• 22:39
  But yeah, if I think it just shows how valuable Lamar is to
• 22:45
  that team and if he doesn't come back, it's I think the ship is
• 22:51
  is sailed. If he doesn't come back, I don't
• 22:52
  know what they'll do without him.
• 22:54
  And obviously it's it's definitely showing.
• 22:56
  I'm going to let you guys know I got I got a secret about the ASC
• 22:59
  N Pittsburgh sucks. They don't have a quarterback.
• 23:03
  I don't care what anybody says. And that goes for Aaron Rodgers.
• 23:06
  The Browns, they suck. They're fighting, they don't
• 23:08
  even know who their quarterback is.
• 23:10
  And by the way, the Bengals don't have Joe Burrow, they're
• 23:13
  fine. Lamar Jackson is fine.
• 23:15
  The Baltimore Ravens are fine. They'll get him back in time.
• 23:18
  They'll sneak into the playoffs, they'll win the division and
• 23:21
  they'll find a way in the playoffs.
• 23:23
  I don't think anybody in the AFC is scary.
• 23:26
  As far as I'm concerned, Indianapolis has been the best
• 23:29
  all around team in the AFC really for the 1st 4 1/2, five
• 23:32
  weeks. So I don't think there's
• 23:34
  anything being scared or thought about about John Harbaugh losing
• 23:38
  his job or coach is being tossed away.
• 23:40
  This team is in the worst. It went from the best division
• 23:43
  or one of the top 2 divisions in football to one of the worst
• 23:47
  divisions in football you could sell.
• 23:49
  I knew England, they look like they're A-Team.
• 23:52
  They could sneak into the playoffs.
• 23:53
  Congratulations to them. I'm not going to say anything
• 23:55
  bad about them. Buffalo's definitely making the
• 23:57
  playoffs and Miami just sucks and so did Jess.
• 24:00
  So I, I'm telling you right now, Baltimore spies, everybody's got
• 24:04
  to stop with this. They look bad.
• 24:06
  Their defense, this team will figure it out.
• 24:08
  Lamar Jackson is one of the more prolific, more talented
• 24:11
  offensive gifts the Baltimore Ravens have ever had in their in
• 24:15
  their past and all the way to their future.
• 24:18
  Give it to Lamar. He'll be back soon.
• 24:19
  Don't worry fans. Joe Burrow might sneak that
• 24:22
  Bengals team in as well. That Bengals team is our next on
• 24:25
  the whip around. They have falling to the Lions
• 24:28
  37 to 24 and the Commanders, with Jayden Daniels returning
• 24:33
  dominating against the Chargers 27 to 10.
• 24:38
  The Lions, that game wasn't close that they scored late in
• 24:41
  the game. Jamar Chase got 2 garbage time
• 24:43
  touchdowns. That was a massacre.
• 24:45
  It was the massacre. Everyone expected that Browning
• 24:48
  is terrible. I just picked the Lions defense
• 24:50
  up off the scrap heap just to play him this week in fantasy,
• 24:53
  and I was 100% right. And I only got screwed because
• 24:55
  of the garbage time touchdowns. Should have got another another
• 24:57
  four or five points. That's a bad team.
• 25:00
  And we said it before the season, Joe Burrow was going to
• 25:02
  have to make miracles himself to make that team a winning team.
• 25:05
  And then he got hurt right away because they didn't protect
• 25:07
  them. They have no defense.
• 25:09
  Their offense is garbage without Burrow.
• 25:11
  They have a quarterback that turns it over.
• 25:13
  They're going nowhere. You'd make a good point about
• 25:16
  the AFC North being so soft that the that the Ravens could come
• 25:19
  back. But the NFC North, the Lions,
• 25:23
  everyone you know saying, oh, he lost his assistant coaches.
• 25:26
  It's going to be a down year for the Lions.
• 25:29
  That's quite a powerful franchise.
• 25:31
  They still have a 2 headed monster of Gibbs and Montgomery
• 25:35
  who both look fantastic. They still got Aman Ross St.
• 25:38
  Brown and Sam Laporta. That's and they got Jameson
• 25:41
  Williams taking the top off. That's a really good offense.
• 25:44
  That's a really good line with Penny Sewell, the best tackle in
• 25:47
  football arguably. That's a great team.
• 25:49
  And the Commanders, guess what? They got Jaden Daniels back and
• 25:52
  the Chargers have no line. And just like I said, they won't
• 25:55
  be able to do anything. I don't know what you're trying
• 25:58
  to look at here. I don't know what that is.
• 26:01
  Is that just some kind of album cover?
• 26:03
  And there's some kind of picture on the wall.
• 26:05
  I don't know who it is. I don't know what it is.
• 26:07
  Well, maybe it's maybe it's, you know, Jaden Daniels, you know,
• 26:11
  dream to, to, to play so well that he can be referenced in a
• 26:15
  segment. While that picture is also
• 26:17
  referenced because Jaden Daniels was a dominator in this game.
• 26:22
  Now that he's back, healthy or healthy, ish, you know, it took
• 26:25
  him a little bit to get going. That team's good with Jaden
• 26:27
  Daniels and that defense is good enough to beat a bad offensive
• 26:30
  line, so I wasn't surprised. Yeah, and the Chargers, like you
• 26:34
  said, decimated with the offensive line.
• 26:35
  It really revolves around their running game, getting anything
• 26:38
  going. Now, they lost Amari in Hampton,
• 26:39
  too, to injury. He's going to miss some time.
• 26:41
  So they're going to have to try to be the opposite of what they
• 26:43
  normally are in a Greg Robin offense, which is like for
• 26:46
  Olympic passing attack, that's going to be tough to come by.
• 26:48
  But Washington's defense, you got to give them some credit,
• 26:50
  too. They were able to still play
• 26:51
  well amidst some of the secondary issues that they've
• 26:53
  had at certain points this year. He still played really well in
• 26:55
  the front 7. And Dan Quinn deserves a lot of
• 26:58
  credit for the way, even with during Jayden Daniels injuries,
• 27:01
  making that kind of thing work. The Lions, yeah, they're they're
• 27:03
  staying a juggernaut. And the Bengals might we offer
• 27:06
  you 1, Russell Wilson maybe, to save your season while the
• 27:08
  Ravens are falling apart too? That's tough.
• 27:13
  That's tough, Yeah. I mean, commanders, it's fun to
• 27:16
  watch those and holding together, like you said with
• 27:18
  Jayden Daniels, I mean, the Bengals is interesting to see
• 27:21
  how long Bird will be out and to see if if Zach Taylor still has
• 27:25
  a job that that'll be interesting to to kind of see
• 27:29
  how that plays itself out. We we've kind of seen that kind
• 27:32
  of be a topic of conversation lately in the Lions.
• 27:36
  I mean, there's just, they have so many ways to beat you, so
• 27:38
  many weapons. And obviously they thought it
• 27:41
  was going to be a big deal that they lost everybody as as the
• 27:44
  coaching staff. But as we've seen, they coaching
• 27:46
  staff doesn't play the game and those guys that they have on the
• 27:49
  field can sure play the game and they're showing.
• 27:51
  Ross is, but I don't want to hear about Ross.
• 27:55
  OK, I have to take that away and plaster it somewhere else
• 28:00
  because I don't want to hear about Russell Wilson will save
• 28:03
  the Bengals season. Stop with this garbage.
• 28:05
  The Lions are fantastic. They got one of the best running
• 28:08
  games at football. We all know what a guy like
• 28:10
  Jamir games can bring to the table.
• 28:12
  We know what Montgomery David Montgomery is as a running back.
• 28:15
  We know what this offense could be with St.
• 28:17
  Brown playing on all cylinders. There's no arguments to the the
• 28:21
  strengths and the weaknesses of the Lions.
• 28:23
  The Bengals, if Joe Barrow comes back and Week 9, Week 10, they
• 28:27
  still have a chance because they're in a really bad AFC
• 28:30
  North. They don't look good.
• 28:32
  I think their defense is really, really bad.
• 28:34
  Even with Hendrickson there, you know that Hendrickson doesn't
• 28:36
  want to be there. You could see the way he is
• 28:39
  playing, even though he's playing very good football, he's
• 28:42
  not as aggressive as he's been over the years because I feel
• 28:46
  like he wants to take care of his body and make sure that he's
• 28:48
  healthy next year so we can get his long term deal.
• 28:51
  So I don't think the Bengals are playing on all cylinders, and
• 28:54
  Zach Taylor's going to be looking for a new job if this
• 28:56
  team loses, makes it doesn't make the playoffs.
• 28:59
  But here's The funny thing about the Bengals, The Bengals and Joe
• 29:02
  Burrow, just think about his career.
• 29:05
  He gets hurt. He's healthy, gets hurt.
• 29:08
  He's healthy, he gets hurt. His career has pretty much
• 29:12
  fallen into place as comeback player of the year.
• 29:15
  You see the numbers that he is. You see what he can bring to the
• 29:17
  table when he plays a full season.
• 29:20
  It's bad news for the Bengals. As far as the Commanders and the
• 29:23
  Chargers. Here's the problem right now
• 29:24
  with the Chargers. The Chargers have lost two games
• 29:26
  in a row against two teams that they're better than.
• 29:30
  The Commanders are a good team. We all know what Daniels brings
• 29:33
  to the table. Jamie Daniels is coming back
• 29:35
  from an injury. He's not 100%.
• 29:37
  You saw that in the second-half. He started to figure things out
• 29:40
  and that's because the Chargers defense kind of step back.
• 29:44
  They play prevent defense. They let Jane and Daniels get
• 29:46
  comfortable in the pocket. You saw that on Sunday.
• 29:50
  The Chargers right now, Jim Harbaugh, you know, there's not
• 29:53
  a lot of things that he said at the press conference.
• 29:55
  Pretty much we're not playing our game.
• 29:56
  We got to figure this out. We we have the ability to be as
• 29:59
  good as any team in football. We know that the commanders,
• 30:02
  they're dangerous. If the Commanders play like this
• 30:05
  and they can run the ball as well as they have with the three
• 30:08
  headed monster that they bring to the table, they don't need
• 30:10
  Robinson, they don't need star running backs.
• 30:13
  They just need a dish of guys that can give you a little
• 30:16
  different kinds of pudding or jello.
• 30:18
  You can see the difference of this team when they're playing
• 30:20
  on all cylinders. And by the way, ladies and
• 30:23
  gentlemen, I told you how important Devo Samuel is going
• 30:26
  to be in this offense. Sensational, as we say.
• 30:31
  He's looked sensational since he's come to the Washington
• 30:33
  Commanders. Yeah, Bill Croskey Merritt, the
• 30:36
  running back from the seventh round.
• 30:38
  Two touchdowns in this game, last one speedy.
• 30:40
  Yeah, last one the Thursday night game.
• 30:42
  The Niners win a thriller against the Rams 26 to 23, and
• 30:47
  the New England Patriots give the Buffalo Bills their first
• 30:49
  loss to the season. And the 72 Dolphins can
• 30:51
  celebrate again. Somebody called me after the San
• 30:54
  Francisco game. OK, this man had the audacity to
• 31:00
  call me after the game, the San Francisco game, and tell me,
• 31:04
  Kyle Shanahan, Who? And you know who I'm talking
• 31:08
  about, Owen, the mouth of the South.
• 31:11
  You want to talk about the mouth of the South?
• 31:12
  He's the mouth of the North. This guy's lost.
• 31:15
  He tells me. Oh, look what he's doing with
• 31:18
  this quarterback. This guy's this guy's washed up.
• 31:21
  This guy isn't good. The plates, OK, San Francisco,
• 31:26
  they look good. That doesn't scare me.
• 31:28
  They played A-Team. Honestly, the Rams have been up
• 31:31
  and down. This is not an all around good
• 31:33
  Rams team. Their defense shows up one week,
• 31:36
  their offense shows up the next. They don't play on all
• 31:38
  cylinders. Pukunaku is sensational.
• 31:41
  They can run the ball with Williams.
• 31:42
  How long is this going to last? And Matthew Stafford, an injury
• 31:46
  prone quarterback. Could you stop Owen?
• 31:48
  Could you stop reaching out to me and telling me about Kyle
• 31:50
  Shanahan? He stinks.
• 31:53
  This team stinks with the easiest schedule in the NFL.
• 31:56
  Wash your mouth with some soap, baby.
• 31:59
  Wash your mouth with some soap. You see the veins?
• 32:02
  You can sell that. I love you, Owen.
• 32:05
  And I can't wait until you come on the show, you add that little
• 32:07
  dress, lipstick and nice, beautiful wig.
• 32:10
  Because when you're dressed up in that sensational Halloween
• 32:13
  costume, I will be laughing as you will be the new.
• 32:17
  What's this guy? This serial killer on Netflix?
• 32:20
  Yeah, that's who he looks like. That guy.
• 32:22
  Sell that. Yeah, he he.
• 32:26
  Told he told me he called you and I just started.
• 32:28
  I was like, I can only know where this conversation went.
• 32:32
  So I was, I was waiting to I was, I didn't know if you're
• 32:35
  going to come on. I was going to ask you about it
• 32:37
  on Thursday, but Oh yeah. I was like, oh boy, He just just
• 32:42
  adding fuel to the fire on that one.
• 32:44
  I, I miss, I'll say this, I miss Owen and Moen Owen.
• 32:47
  Moen Owen actually said he misses us and, and he, he hopes
• 32:53
  that he can eventually come back and, and add a little bit of
• 32:56
  content to the show. And I told him what?
• 32:58
  Let's talk off air. And I miss you too.
• 33:01
  Oh, you're crazy. You lost your mind and you can
• 33:04
  sell me whatever you want. Your Nebraska feeling.
• 33:07
  You're Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska feeling that's not going to sell
• 33:12
  me about how bad San Francisco is all around.
• 33:15
  This is not a good team. Stop selling it.
• 33:17
  And I don't want to hear by by week nine, week 10.
• 33:20
  I oops, going to be back. By the way, congratulations to
• 33:25
  the Patriots. Sensational game in the fourth
• 33:28
  quarter. Great coaching by Frey Ball.
• 33:30
  And This is why they have the right coach in place over there
• 33:33
  with the New England Patriots. I'll play the Bills play great
• 33:36
  defense in the second-half and shut Josh Allen down.
• 33:39
  Yeah, I was going to comment on the same thing.
• 33:41
  The defense of the Patriots. The game plan of Rabel.
• 33:44
  The halftime adjustments. Halftime.
• 33:48
  That was huge. As a master class, you know,
• 33:51
  there's only so many teams that are able to stop, you know, to
• 33:54
  contain Josh Allen. They were able to do it.
• 33:57
  Josh Allen, you know, it's been fine to start the year.
• 33:59
  Maybe isn't putting up mind blowing numbers.
• 34:01
  I, I know you were saying, you know, we got Baker and Daniel
• 34:04
  Jones. I I'm still going with Josh
• 34:06
  Allen as the MVP. You know, I, I think when it's
• 34:09
  all said and done, that's the guy if you can get good.
• 34:11
  Dag Prescott. I'll go get him.
• 34:12
  Dag Prescott. Dag Prescott's been the best
• 34:14
  quarterback in the NFL. They're going to win 7.
• 34:16
  But they're going to win seven games.
• 34:18
  It doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter if he puts up
• 34:21
  the numbers that I think he's going to be put up putting up
• 34:23
  this year. There's no way you can argue it.
• 34:25
  He has been the best quarterback in the NFL all season long.
• 34:30
  You want to talk about what he has done and they don't have a
• 34:32
  defense and they're still winning games right now.
• 34:35
  Don't stop talking bad about this guy.
• 34:37
  This guy. I would say this, Daniel Jones
• 34:42
  has a better chance currently than him because that team's
• 34:44
  better and they're going to win more games and you don't give.
• 34:46
  And MVPS aren't on losing teams, they just never are.
• 34:49
  I don't care how good the quarterback is.
• 34:50
  What did wait A. Second, you're going to tell me
• 34:52
  that Dad can't get that team in a wild card?
• 34:54
  You can't tell me Dad can't get that team in a wild card.
• 34:57
  I'd be shocked if they go 5. 100 really shocked seeing the land
• 35:00
  is not even in this lineup you crazy defense.
• 35:08
  Their defense is ranked in the top.
• 35:09
  Sorry I was making a real point their.
• 35:11
  Defensive in the top 15 right now.
• 35:14
  They played well the last two weeks.
• 35:17
  They're in the top 15 in the last two weeks.
• 35:21
  The Giants. Stop it, stop it.
• 35:24
  Prescott done his job. I'm not out of my mind.
• 35:26
  They're the Cowboys are a lot better than you say they are.
• 35:29
  Their defense is played well. Stop it, stop it.
• 35:32
  They don't have a star, they don't have a star corner, they
• 35:34
  don't have star corner and they don't really have a star pass
• 35:36
  rusher. And they're still doing what
• 35:38
  they're supposed to be doing. Defense.
• 35:42
  I know he's not Dick stinks. He's stinks.
• 35:45
  You're going to tell me you're 1 good player on their defense?
• 35:49
  Don't stop. Name one.
• 35:49
  I'll wait one. You stop, stop.
• 35:52
  Stop me Dicks. Don't sell me Dicks.
• 35:55
  Don't sell me Dicks. He's not he's not a top.
• 35:57
  And. Corner.
• 35:58
  He's not. Name one player on their
• 36:00
  defense. What do you mean name one good
• 36:02
  player? What do you mean one good
• 36:05
  player? He's good five years ago.
• 36:11
  No, he's still a good player, man.
• 36:12
  He's still a good player. Stop Sauron.
• 36:14
  He's still a good player. Stop it.
• 36:16
  Stop it. I'm not.
• 36:17
  I'm not going to get. Out.
• 36:18
  I'm going to give you another one.
• 36:19
  That's Dante. Fowler.
• 36:21
  How about Dante Fowler? He's bad.
• 36:23
  He's. Bad 32 Stop.
• 36:25
  Stop, stop. Get up.
• 36:27
  He's got 4 1/2 seconds. Hey, watch.
• 36:29
  Stop gifts. You'll read between the lines,
• 36:31
  baby. Read between the lines.
• 36:34
  You are out in your damn mind. I don't know.
• 36:37
  You can read it between the lines.
• 36:38
  Read between the lines. Think about.
• 36:39
  This. Watch this.
• 36:41
  Ready. That's what I'm going to say.
• 36:44
  That's what I'm going to say. You're adding your damn mind.
• 36:47
  The Cowboys right now and their defense have been a lot better
• 36:50
  than you say they are. Dante Fowler has been one of the
• 36:52
  best defensive players in the league.
• 36:54
  Stop it. Wash your mouth with soap.
• 36:56
  Wash your mouth with soap. No, I'm not going to do that.
• 37:00
  Matt Jones, by the way, was the guy that many people thought
• 37:04
  Kyle Shanahan wanted in that draft when he kind of changed
• 37:08
  his mind and took Trey Lance. Mac Jones in this game, 33 of
• 37:11
  49342 passing yards, 2 touchdowns leads them to the
• 37:16
  victory. Who does he get most of the
• 37:17
  passing yards to? Old Patriots buddy Kendrick
• 37:20
  Born, 10 catches, 142 yards. But the big story was this
• 37:25
  Bill's collapse against the Patriots.
• 37:28
  Let's finish this up speedy. What do you got on Vrabel's
• 37:32
  master class? I'm, it's, it's interesting
• 37:34
  because Vrabel's actually did that a lot with the Titans too.
• 37:36
  They played up to good teams. A lot of the time they'll be
• 37:39
  played down to bat or sometimes the talent deficiencies with
• 37:41
  their passing in the Titans help them back at certain instances.
• 37:44
  But they, they, I think besides the playoff game and I think one
• 37:47
  other game against the Chiefs, I think they were like 5 and two
• 37:50
  against the Chiefs. They played very well against
• 37:51
  the Ravens, including that playoff win that they had.
• 37:54
  Like they play up to a lot of these good teams.
• 37:56
  And I think this is another case of that where I see the division
• 38:00
  game. Sometimes you do play the you do
• 38:02
  play those games closer. And that defense does a lot of
• 38:05
  credit considering all the injuries that they've had
• 38:06
  throughout the year, all this new pieces going in all at once.
• 38:09
  I think Raybould did a fantastic job considering the
• 38:12
  circumstances and considering all the offensive issues that
• 38:15
  they had, like making those newer receivers, making it work,
• 38:18
  Romandra Stevenson at the fumble at the beginning, but then play
• 38:20
  well after that. And the Patriots definitely
• 38:22
  deserve a lot of credit. This is the team that's
• 38:24
  definitely on the rise. And now they get the adversity
• 38:26
  when to go along with it. Job you got anything to add or
• 38:30
  we got? We're going to finish whipping
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  it around here. Nope, you guys covered it all.
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  I think we did and that has been yet another whip around for Week
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  5 of the NFL. But normally in this spot,
• 38:44
  Errol, we would go to a break. We have something special
• 38:47
  planned tonight that we haven't really done.
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  I made sure we got a couple of Penn State fans ready to come
• 38:54
  on. You guys can both come into the
• 38:57
  screen right now. I'm going to put you on the
• 38:59
  side. I want to welcome our old intern
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  James, a big Penn Stater, and my brother-in-law, Armando Horda
• 39:09
  coming on in to talk about their beloved Penn State Nittany
• 39:14
  Lions. Let me give you the read I have
• 39:17
  here and then we'll get into it. In the most shocking upset of
• 39:21
  the college football season so far, and perhaps in many
• 39:25
  seasons, winless UCLA with an interim staff stunned #7 Penn
• 39:30
  State 42 to 37 since 1936. They are the are only the 4th
• 39:36
  team ranked in the top 10 to lose to a winless team and the
• 39:40
  first team since #7 BYU was upset by UTEP in 1985.
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  Not sure, that might have been Steve Young's team.
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  UCLA came into the game O and 4:00 and had fired their head
• 39:53
  coach and both coordinators after a loss in New Mexico on
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  September 14th. Despite the odds, UCLA LED at
• 39:59
  halftime 27 seven, the largest halftime deficit Penn State has
• 40:04
  ever had versus an unranked opponent.
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  After the win, new offensive coordinator, former UCLA
• 40:09
  quarterback and the son of former UCLA head coach Rick
• 40:12
  Neuheisel, Jerry Neuheisel, was given a Gatorade bath and
• 40:16
  carried off the field. Projected first round NFL draft
• 40:20
  prospect Drew Aller had just 200 passing yards and two
• 40:23
  touchdowns, including just 64 in the first half.
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  Aller was also the leading rusher in again with 78 yards.
• 40:30
  The normally dynamic duon of duo of Catron Allen and Nicholas
• 40:34
  Singleton were held to only 89 yards combined.
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  Many fans are calling for head coach James Franklin to be fired
• 40:41
  after this loss following the devastating double OT loss to
• 40:45
  Oregon at home the week before. If Franklin were to be fired,
• 40:48
  his buyout is an estimated $56 million as he is only in Year 5
• 40:53
  of a 10 year, $75 million contract signed back in 2021.
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  So let me tell you a little bit about what I know about James
• 41:03
  Franklin before we get into this because I don't think there's
• 41:05
  going to be a lot of positive things said about Coach
• 41:08
  Franklin. I do have some positive things
• 41:11
  to say about him. When I was, I guess this was
• 41:14
  Saquon's breakout year when he was at Penn State.
• 41:18
  I got, I was lucky enough, I went with a friend that a
• 41:20
  colleague that I coached with, Coach Bakia, brought me down to
• 41:25
  Penn State. We got an invite.
• 41:27
  He was the former position coach of their at the time, offensive
• 41:32
  coordinator Joe Morehead, who had this really great innovative
• 41:35
  offense as the offensive coordinator at Penn State.
• 41:38
  It was kind of like RPO everything, but he took it to a
• 41:41
  whole nother level where there were four options on every
• 41:44
  single play, including like down the field options.
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  I thought it was remarkable and it wasn't surprising that that
• 41:49
  team went, was finished the year ranked #2 While I was there, it
• 41:54
  was like first class treatment by Franklin and his staff.
• 41:58
  I mean, they gave us beers, they let us go talk to all their
• 42:01
  coaches, they let us sit in on spring practice.
• 42:04
  They let us ask questions, they let us draw stuff up.
• 42:07
  We got full access to literally everything we wanted.
• 42:10
  And he was just an awesome stand up guy.
• 42:12
  He was, he at one point sat right behind me just at one of
• 42:15
  the the clinic sessions because he was just checking up on his
• 42:18
  guys. It's not surprising why people
• 42:21
  like him so much. That being said, he seems to
• 42:26
  lose all the big games routinely over and over and over again.
• 42:32
  Speedy, you're going to have to tell me what the exact stat was,
• 42:34
  but I know that we said the week before, I think it might have
• 42:37
  been a Tic Tac, no. It was in tech Tech no.
• 42:38
  It was 4 and 21 against against top ten teams since he since it
• 42:45
  became Penn State's head coach which was the which was the
• 42:48
  second worst or third worst ever only to Hugh Freeze and jobless
• 42:53
  guy Matt Rule win percentage wise.
• 42:56
  Not the type of company that you're trying to keep as far as
• 43:00
  being successful. You know, if I, if I was a Penn
• 43:03
  State fan, which I'm not, I went to school in Buffalo.
• 43:07
  They were a bad football program when I was there.
• 43:09
  I didn't really get into college football the same way that some
• 43:11
  people do, especially if you go to a big football school.
• 43:14
  But I know Penn State fans love themselves from Penn State State
• 43:18
  College. It's a whole culture over there.
• 43:20
  I mean, before we get to talk to the two of you guys, I mean, I
• 43:23
  didn't expect to have you on Errol.
• 43:24
  Did you catch any of this game? Yeah, I watched the whole game
• 43:27
  and it's not Franklin's fault. Are you?
• 43:29
  You guys going to stop this shit?
• 43:31
  This is the guy that took them one game away from going to a
• 43:34
  national championship last year. You're going to sit here and
• 43:37
  you're going to point fingers, You're going to say, oh, well,
• 43:39
  he can't win big games, blah, blah.
• 43:41
  He was one game away from going to a big game.
• 43:43
  So stop this crap. You're going to fire somebody.
• 43:46
  You're going to toss him to the ground because the Penn State,
• 43:49
  the fans still naked. Stop it.
• 43:53
  This is a team that's still going to the tournament.
• 43:55
  They're still going to get into 12 team tournament.
• 43:57
  They're still capable of winning a national championship.
• 44:00
  He got to stop this garbage. I know everybody wants to point
• 44:03
  their fingers and say somebody's not good and not this and not
• 44:06
  that. It was a bad game.
• 44:07
  They lost a very bad game. That happens.
• 44:10
  There's always games that make you look bad.
• 44:13
  I don't care if it happened in 1936 or 1800.
• 44:17
  This guy took his team almost to a national championship leisure.
• 44:20
  So stop this garbage. But they're not ranked anymore,
• 44:23
  though, Errol, it doesn't matter.
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  It doesn't. Matter.
• 44:26
  It doesn't matter. You can't make top 12 if you're
• 44:28
  not ranked. They're going to make top 12.
• 44:30
  What's the record? Right, A four and one. 2 They
• 44:33
  lost the Oregon, then they lost. The four and two, OK, so if you
• 44:36
  if they lose another game, they're out.
• 44:38
  All right, they're out. But they still have a chance to
• 44:41
  make it. They still have a chance.
• 44:43
  And their schedule, their schedule still falls in those
• 44:46
  points. If they win out their games and
• 44:48
  they figure it out, they could still make the tournament.
• 44:51
  This is still a very good team for anybody to sit here and say,
• 44:54
  oh, well, they lost against the UCL.
• 44:56
  UCLA has very good recruits. They've got three guys that
• 44:59
  could be first round talents going into this coming class.
• 45:03
  So to say that they're not good enough and you can't see
• 45:06
  championship now, UCLA's not winning any.
• 45:08
  They fired their coaches. We all know what they did.
• 45:11
  It doesn't mean they don't have talented players over there.
• 45:13
  And I I've said this about the Penn State quarterback.
• 45:16
  A lot of fans like this kid. He's a first round talent.
• 45:19
  I don't know if he is. I think he's a second round
• 45:22
  early guy. I don't think he's a first round
• 45:25
  talent. This quarterback class is going
• 45:27
  to be very intriguing and very interesting how everything falls
• 45:30
  because I think we know who's going to be in the top five
• 45:33
  looking for a quarterback. That's all I'm going to say
• 45:35
  about this. I know you Penn State fans don't
• 45:37
  like it and you're Kate, This guy, this guy is still a good
• 45:40
  coach. He's he's and one of the more
• 45:42
  respected coaches in college football.
• 45:45
  That's all I'm going to say about that.
• 45:47
  Jabba, I know you're a big college football fan.
• 45:49
  You know, I know Nebraska's had their their struggles, but I
• 45:54
  don't think even Nebraska played A-Team where their coaching
• 45:57
  staff, Jerry, like Jerry Neuheisel, he said that he
• 46:01
  hadn't even practiced wearing a headset before, not once.
• 46:05
  They had just made him offensive coordinator this week, The kids
• 46:08
  27. He was their quarterback a
• 46:10
  decade ago, less than a decade ago.
• 46:13
  It's pretty embarrassing, man. Like, I know you had that big
• 46:18
  let down against Oregon, but you can't come back out like that.
• 46:23
  That's that's crazy. Unless Jerry Jerry Neuheisel's
• 46:27
  the next Bill Belichick somehow, I mean.
• 46:29
  He's already surpassed Bill Belichick in college football
• 46:32
  the way he's coaching. Well, that's a slightly
• 46:35
  different story. But Jabba, like how do you, how
• 46:37
  do you rationalize something like this?
• 46:40
  I don't I mean it's tough. Anything with Penn State though,
• 46:43
  I I cheer against them because the good old as a Husker, it's
• 46:47
  it's tough. So anything good that happens in
• 46:49
  crappy valley, you're all good. No, I actually I had a great
• 46:53
  experience there. My manager was he went to Penn
• 46:56
  State, but I, I think like for me, the game was, was very
• 47:01
  interesting, but as a dad, it was a really, really cool dad
• 47:04
  moment to watch Rick Neuheisel's watch his son, you know, do
• 47:08
  something really cool. And I don't know if you guys saw
• 47:10
  it, but you know, he was, he was on the dais doing, I don't even
• 47:15
  know who he works for, but just to watch your son and how proud
• 47:18
  he was was was super cool. And you know, to see Penn State
• 47:22
  kind of just, he doesn't win big games, but he's also win that he
• 47:27
  can. I, I don't think it's all on
• 47:29
  him. It's just, I think it's
• 47:32
  magnified when you've been as good as he is that it's kind of
• 47:35
  fell into what it is right now. And everybody likes to have the
• 47:39
  good old red panic button ready to hit, But I don't think he hit
• 47:43
  it on. He's been too good for too long
• 47:44
  that I don't think it's it's ready to throw everything to the
• 47:48
  wayside. We got speedy I.
• 47:52
  Was going to mention like a lot of the times when you see his
• 47:55
  down games in Penn State, it's more two things more to the end
• 47:59
  of the season and more in lower scoring fashion.
• 48:01
  To see in higher scoring fashion, losing a defensive
• 48:03
  shootout with a defense that's been known as front 7,
• 48:08
  especially linebacker factory for years is crazy to think I
• 48:12
  thought 2023 for Penn State was their best shot.
• 48:15
  That was their best all around team and they end up blowing it
• 48:19
  that year, losing to Michigan. When Michigan, this was right
• 48:22
  during the beginning of the scandal.
• 48:24
  So they were with an assistant. They were with an interim coach
• 48:27
  at the time because Harbaugh got suspended.
• 48:29
  Yeah, it was one of the three games and I think they Michigan
• 48:31
  beaten by 14 or something like that.
• 48:33
  And even before that losing to Ohio State, Wes, our our
• 48:37
  resident betting guy was a huge Buckeyes fan, was texting me
• 48:40
  couple weeks before that game. He was very afraid of that Penn
• 48:43
  State team the way they were all around in that game.
• 48:45
  So I thought that was their best shot.
• 48:46
  I would have made the move. Then again, the buyout decision
• 48:49
  just re extending and makes it very tough.
• 48:51
  But to this point, like I it just seems kind of stale, like
• 48:55
  you're going to get the same kind of result.
• 48:56
  And I think they've hurt your Aller's development too.
• 48:58
  Like they kept Sean Clifford in the game in the in the games for
• 49:03
  the 2023 season when Aller was ready at that point too.
• 49:07
  And I think I think it happened. I think it definitely affected
• 49:10
  him where he might look good on paper, but like Arrow was
• 49:13
  saying, like maybe he's not as first round ready as we think
• 49:16
  because of it, because he's just been streaky statistically and
• 49:19
  really bad in conference play. And I think a lot of that.
• 49:21
  Has to do around talent. He's not what are you guys, you
• 49:26
  Penn State guys and I can't wait to hear this crap.
• 49:28
  He is not a first round talent. I don't know what you guys are
• 49:31
  watching. He's a doofy tall guy that
• 49:34
  they're comparing to Ben Roethlisberger.
• 49:36
  He's not Ben Roethlisberger. You guys need to stop it.
• 49:39
  You Penn State fans need to stop it.
• 49:41
  He's nowhere close. And I, I don't want to hear
• 49:44
  about it because you're going to say the stop the development of
• 49:47
  but, but, but obviously the coaching staff knows the
• 49:49
  quarterback and knows his game and the way his game should be
• 49:53
  played with the roster that he has.
• 49:55
  He's not as good as you think he is and he's proving it week in
• 49:58
  and week out that he's not as good as he's not.
• 50:00
  I don't want to hear about his 78 yards run.
• 50:02
  Throw the damn ball. You want to make it to the NFL,
• 50:04
  You got to be a dual fret. You're not a dual fret.
• 50:07
  That's it. That's all I want to say.
• 50:09
  Jackson Dart showed a little bit more umph in his game when he
• 50:13
  needed to show it to make himself a first round talent.
• 50:15
  This kid is not a first round talent and has nothing to do
• 50:19
  with development. The kid is not as good as you
• 50:21
  think he is. Now, I think you might be right.
• 50:24
  I'm looking online, they're saying that he's dropped to a
• 50:26
  potential third round pick right now with his poor play.
• 50:30
  Look, you can't teach size and the guy's got size, so that's
• 50:35
  like a first thing, but. Before we want to transition, I
• 50:37
  just wanted to say this before we transition to the Penn State
• 50:40
  guys giving their thoughts. My comments were more of how
• 50:43
  basic of a quarterback Sean Clifford was then, then Drew
• 50:46
  Aller, maybe not being ready at the time, but still like upside
• 50:49
  was there. Like, make the move when you're
• 50:50
  in your best chance of a winning season in 23.
• 50:53
  I I think my point is, like in college football, especially
• 50:57
  those big programs when you're not an offensive coordinator.
• 50:59
  Franklin, if I'm not mistaken, was a special teams guy dating
• 51:03
  back and he has all these really great coordinators, but then
• 51:07
  they get jobs and they move on and they become head coaches.
• 51:11
  And then it's a new offense and he's really dependent on having
• 51:16
  good coordinators, you know, there for a number of years to
• 51:20
  build a system. And if they don't stay and
• 51:21
  they're constantly changing, how can a guy like alert develop if
• 51:26
  you're if that's happening, that's just a function of
• 51:27
  Division One football and your head coach being more of an
• 51:31
  overseer, which I think he's really good at than a scheme
• 51:36
  guy. I don't think he's really a
• 51:38
  scheme guy, which is not. Jalen Hurts, how many coaches
• 51:43
  did he have? Jalen Hurts jumped from one team
• 51:45
  to another and Jalen Hurts almost won it.
• 51:47
  He won a national champion as a backup.
• 51:50
  And then he goes over there and he does what he does over there
• 51:53
  in Oklahoma. The guy can play.
• 51:55
  All right, I'm I'm telling you, it doesn't matter about what
• 51:58
  coaches have. If you're a good player, you're
• 52:00
  going to show you. Finally, by the way, Jalen Hurts
• 52:02
  was the second round draft pick. So I don't want to hear it this,
• 52:05
  but you know what you're proving.
• 52:07
  My point? You're proving my.
• 52:08
  Point. Really.
• 52:09
  Really. Hurts didn't play the first
• 52:12
  Jalen Hurts they didn't think was ready development.
• 52:16
  Was so skewed. Well, that's what I'm saying,
• 52:18
  that his development was skewed because of those things, that it
• 52:22
  slowed him down a year or so. I'm not saying that Aller's bad,
• 52:25
  but he's going to drop in the draft.
• 52:27
  How did it slow down? He was in a national title game
• 52:30
  and two attack. Viola took over in the
• 52:32
  second-half and he didn't He was the starting quarterback.
• 52:36
  He was the starting quarterback. The Alabama Crimson Tide all
• 52:39
  season long went to a national championship.
• 52:41
  He had a bad game. People have bad games.
• 52:44
  He went with Dua. So in the second-half.
• 52:46
  So I don't want to hear this. This quarter never had different
• 52:49
  coaches the. Guy.
• 52:52
  I'm telling you right now, this guy from Penn State, the six
• 52:55
  foot 8 giant who everybody thinks is going to be Ben
• 52:58
  Roethlisberger, he's not anything.
• 53:00
  He's not going to be good in the NFL.
• 53:02
  Sell that book. That boys, you parenting fans.
• 53:05
  Putting this bad juju on, you know what's going to happen.
• 53:07
  You know he's stepping. I'm right.
• 53:10
  You know what's going to happen. He's going to end up being on
• 53:12
  The Jets. That's what's going to happen.
• 53:14
  Well, you're going to have to drill them for 10 years.
• 53:16
  The. Jets aren't drafting him.
• 53:17
  The Jets aren't drafting him. Trust me, they're not drafting
• 53:20
  him. They're definitely not about.
• 53:21
  Ten years after drafting. Christian Hackenberg, You want.
• 53:24
  You want to bet on that? You want.
• 53:26
  Success with Hackenberg. Get out of here.
• 53:29
  All right, Next step, Give the Penn State boys a chance here.
• 53:31
  Give the Penn. State so I really, I really
• 53:34
  wanted to hear from a couple of people and we're going to start
• 53:37
  with my brother in Laura Mondo. Armando, welcome to the show.
• 53:40
  Thank you for bringing me on guys.
• 53:41
  How you doing today? It's been great.
• 53:43
  It's been a long day. Really had to have your take
• 53:45
  ever since I've known you. The biggest Penn State fan.
• 53:49
  It was when I first started, you know, dating my wife.
• 53:51
  You know, it was like, oh, let's just get some Penn State
• 53:54
  presents for birthdays and stuff like that.
• 53:56
  It was super easy because I knew that if you're a Penn State guy,
• 53:59
  you're really a Penn State guy. And I've known you.
• 54:01
  I know you are. That was a tough one this week.
• 54:06
  They're all tough, right? But what I want to say is I, I
• 54:10
  wasn't on the fire Franklin bandwagon up until this last six
• 54:16
  months or two year or so. And realistically, he's 115
• 54:21
  against the top five and four and 20 against the top Penn at
• 54:26
  Penn State. He sucks.
• 54:29
  You can't justify it at all in any way, shape or form anymore.
• 54:33
  There's actually a clause in his contract that whatever contract
• 54:37
  he signs next. So if he, unless he goes
• 54:39
  unemployed, that $56 million buyout gets reduced by his
• 54:43
  contract, right? So there's space for Penn State
• 54:47
  to make moves here and they should because he's not he's not
• 54:53
  the one that's going to get us over the top.
• 54:56
  I I don't know that Alar is the answer at the end of the day, he
• 55:02
  doesn't make good decisions with the ball in big spots.
• 55:07
  He showed that last year when he threw the interception, you
• 55:09
  know, going into that, that semi final game or in that semi final
• 55:12
  game. But you know, Franklins not not
• 55:15
  the answer. And, and it, it sucks because I,
• 55:18
  I go back to, you know, my second game was the thrashing 40
• 55:22
  to 7 home game against Nebraska that we beat, you know, the ever
• 55:26
  living crap out of Nebraska. That game.
• 55:28
  I, I, I've been, you know, I was in the end zone or sitting in
• 55:32
  the end zone that Mario Manning had beat us in 2005 before we
• 55:36
  went on to the Orange Bowl. And I was at the Orange Bowl
• 55:39
  that year and I watched Penn every single minute of every
• 55:43
  Penn State game since 2002, essentially.
• 55:47
  But it's heartbreaking every single year to think that you
• 55:51
  have a chance and then get completely slaughtered in the
• 55:56
  way that that we did this past weekend was, you know, Oregon
• 56:00
  was bad enough. This past weekend just put me
• 56:02
  over the edge. I it's just like it's such a let
• 56:06
  down and it's such a trap game when you have such a bad loss,
• 56:12
  you know, at home, double overtime against, you know,
• 56:15
  whoever wins that game is the number two seed overall and
• 56:18
  probably there won't fall out of the top five, you know,
• 56:22
  regardless going forwards. Then they lose and they have to
• 56:25
  make the West Coast trip, right. That's a big thing too.
• 56:29
  And then they got to go face an offensive coordinator who's
• 56:32
  never called a game before. So there's no tendencies on him.
• 56:36
  So that's not exactly easy if he's any good.
• 56:38
  And it turns out the kid was pretty damn good as an offensive
• 56:42
  coordinator. You know, I think they figured
• 56:44
  it out at halftime and they came back, But it's just a lot of
• 56:48
  things that go wrong that you just can't let happen if you're
• 56:52
  the caretaker of a really good program.
• 56:54
  I remember as a Giants fan, when Tom Coughlin started slipping,
• 56:58
  Tom Coughlin was the master. No, no, listen, Tom Coughlin was
• 57:02
  the master of clock management. The master of clock management
• 57:07
  never had problems with clock management and they didn't have
• 57:10
  penalties for delayed game. The Giants were the team that
• 57:13
  never had that issue and then his last year it happened all
• 57:17
  the time. That's.
• 57:18
  Because of your boyfriend, Odell Beckham?
• 57:20
  Are you kidding me? Are you gonna be quiet?
• 57:24
  Odell Beckham was there. What are you talking about?
• 57:26
  Odell Beckham was there. In his final year surgery.
• 57:28
  He was he was there. He was there in the beginning of
• 57:31
  the season. And that's when it all happened.
• 57:33
  Yeah. When he pissed on the freaking
• 57:35
  logo. And that was Tom Coughlin.
• 57:37
  Yes. OK, You remember that?
• 57:38
  I remember that, too. So don't tell me it wasn't
• 57:40
  there. I saw them do.
• 57:42
  Don't tell me I don't know anything about the Giants.
• 57:44
  Odell Beckham is the reason why Tom Costin lost his job.
• 57:47
  Are you going to sit here and tell me, how about the coaching
• 57:50
  staff at the end of the season with Ben McAdoo?
• 57:54
  You're going to tell me they could have given a defensive
• 57:56
  player? I'm not.
• 57:58
  They didn't give him defensive players.
• 58:00
  I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong.
• 58:01
  I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong.
• 58:04
  I'm not wrong. You're wrong.
• 58:08
  Jackson. What happened to Jackson Dart
• 58:11
  yesterday? What happened?
• 58:12
  What happened? That's right.
• 58:13
  I told you was going to happen. Told you it was going to happen.
• 58:16
  Told you what was going to happen.
• 58:18
  You don't listen. I don't care.
• 58:21
  My team sucks all the time. They stink.
• 58:25
  I could careless. I already said they were.
• 58:27
  Glad you got to bring me down with.
• 58:29
  Because I because you keep. Oh my God, I'm.
• 58:32
  Just making a point. I'm not talking about any of
• 58:34
  those guys. I'm saying.
• 58:36
  Paul, the Jackson talking Jackson talk was going to fall
• 58:39
  in the same hole as every Giant quarterback since Eli Manning.
• 58:43
  And that's all I'm going to say about that.
• 58:45
  And to sit here and bring up the Giants and you're going to bring
• 58:48
  up the Giants in comparison to Tom Coughlin, who the Giant
• 58:51
  screwed. Stop.
• 58:53
  I got any patience to listen maybe?
• 58:54
  I don't hear this. I got to hear this.
• 58:56
  I got to hear this. Not even.
• 58:58
  Done. He doesn't know what you're
• 58:59
  saying because you cut me off so rudely and inappropriately.
• 59:03
  How am I supposed to even get a thought out comparing people not
• 59:06
  having clock and it's not even. Comparison.
• 59:09
  It's not because you. Can't listen?
• 59:11
  You don't know how to listen. I'm listening.
• 59:13
  I think it's a terrible cut. Me off.
• 59:16
  You don't even hear the whole thing.
• 59:18
  I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, because Tom Coughlin was a
• 59:22
  great coach of certain things until he wasn't.
• 59:25
  And everybody is great until they're not.
• 59:28
  It happens to everyone, whether you're a player or a coach.
• 59:31
  Belichick certainly lost his fastball the last couple years
• 59:34
  in New England. Don't tell me he didn't.
• 59:37
  Tom Coughlin lost his fastball the year too.
• 59:39
  That last year too it maybe you could say part of it was due to
• 59:42
  Odell, but I'll tell you right now, they never had penalties
• 59:45
  the way they did because of clock management or making
• 59:48
  mistakes at the end of halves like they did until that last
• 59:52
  year because Kaufman was a master of it.
• 59:54
  James Franklin, on the other hand, the things that he's good
• 59:57
  at, used to be keeping a program together in situations like
• 1:00:01
  this, and now you see the cracks starting to go in the
• 1:00:04
  foundation. And I could see why Penn State
• 1:00:07
  guys may want to move on. So now I got to ask another
• 1:00:11
  rabid Penn State guy, our old intern Jake, who I know has lots
• 1:00:15
  of opinions on this. Yeah, so I just want to say,
• 1:00:19
  first of all, it's good to see you Arrow Fish, Speedy and
• 1:00:21
  Jabba. Good to see you guys again.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah, I have a lot of venom stored up, so this is a pretty
• 1:00:27
  rough three days for me. UFC 320 was great as kind of the
• 1:00:31
  only saving grace. The Phillies were shit tonight
• 1:00:35
  and Saturday. The Eagles unfortunately lost.
• 1:00:38
  And then, yeah, Penn State. I mean, look, you guys already
• 1:00:42
  cover. You cover a lot of it.
• 1:00:43
  I'll try to go quick in this, but like, look, Franklin's got
• 1:00:46
  to go. That's just the truth.
• 1:00:47
  Like, I understand. Are we saying he's a good coach?
• 1:00:50
  He is. But you cannot be 4 and 20 or
• 1:00:53
  the four and 21 against top 10 opponents and then one in 14
• 1:00:57
  against Michigan and Ohio State in the top ten.
• 1:00:59
  Like he's only beating Michigan or Ohio State one time.
• 1:01:02
  And the only way it was it was on a fluke bullshit like blocked
• 1:01:06
  kick, run back kick 6 when Penn State already had two losses and
• 1:01:10
  we were out of the playoff picture.
• 1:01:11
  We didn't have a chance. It was just an F you to Ohio
• 1:01:14
  State. That's all it was.
• 1:01:15
  And it was a great win. It was a good feel good win, but
• 1:01:17
  it didn't matter in the end. And look on to Drew Aller.
• 1:01:21
  I love Gerard, but big Gerard guy.
• 1:01:23
  But you are right Errol. He has definitely played himself
• 1:01:26
  out of the first round. I and look, they were calling
• 1:01:29
  him and hyping him up when we first got him.
• 1:01:31
  They were comparing him to Josh Allen, this big 6 foot 5
• 1:01:34
  quarterback. And I thought, hey, you know,
• 1:01:36
  after guys, a Christian Hackenberg who couldn't really
• 1:01:39
  put it all together, wasn't quite there.
• 1:01:40
  Trace Mcsorley, who was a pretty good player but didn't have the
• 1:01:43
  intangibles that pro NFL teams are looking for.
• 1:01:46
  And like Speedy said, Sean Clifford, the most definition of
• 1:01:48
  mid quarterback ever. I thought, hey, this is going to
• 1:01:52
  be our guy. This is the guy.
• 1:01:54
  And like you said, fish like changing coordinators.
• 1:01:58
  And I was really psyched when we got Andy Kotelnicki.
• 1:02:00
  I thought he was going to take Drew Aller and develop him and
• 1:02:03
  make him. And we were going to see it this
• 1:02:05
  year in that offensive explosion.
• 1:02:07
  You got Trevor Pena from Syracuse, Devonta Rossner, a
• 1:02:10
  transfer wide receiver. And it's just, it hasn't been
• 1:02:13
  there. And like, I hate to say it
• 1:02:15
  because I'm a big Aller guy, but they should have kept Bo
• 1:02:19
  Perabola. He's been great at Mizzou and
• 1:02:22
  our it's just it's not there. Like for some, for some reason,
• 1:02:25
  something's not clicking with him.
• 1:02:26
  Like he still will get drafted, but it just doesn't look right.
• 1:02:30
  And it's a shame to say that as a fan of his, it just doesn't
• 1:02:33
  look right. And then as well as Errol,
• 1:02:36
  you're saying they'll still make the we're done.
• 1:02:38
  Season's over, like let's just say, OK, maybe they'll beat
• 1:02:41
  Northwestern. I don't even have confidence in
• 1:02:43
  that this week that will beat Northwestern if you lose to Owen
• 1:02:46
  for UCLA, but I don't think they're going to beat Iowa.
• 1:02:49
  They're definitely not going to beat Ohio State.
• 1:02:50
  They're probably not going to be Indiana.
• 1:02:52
  So that's three losses right there.
• 1:02:54
  You can't lose more than one game.
• 1:02:56
  And then I there's already two games for sure they're going to
• 1:02:58
  lose like they are beating Ohio State and Iowa.
• 1:03:00
  And like, look, with Franklin, look, I I get he's a good coach.
• 1:03:05
  I just think that look after that last week, like look, I I
• 1:03:09
  think you were right. The Oregon game was not his
• 1:03:11
  fault. I think it was more an hour and
• 1:03:13
  Kotel Nikki as a whole, they just did couldn't get things
• 1:03:16
  going until really late and then he can't Drew Roller can't throw
• 1:03:18
  that interception or double overtime.
• 1:03:20
  That was rough. But you as the head coach then
• 1:03:23
  look, it was a rough loss. You're emotional.
• 1:03:25
  It's sad. You have to then get the troops
• 1:03:27
  ready to play a game like this against UCLA.
• 1:03:29
  You cannot keep reeling and then suffer a horrible loss like
• 1:03:33
  this. That is poor leadership, poor
• 1:03:36
  execution just to get embarrassed like that against
• 1:03:40
  UCLA, literally. And the only player I can name
• 1:03:42
  on there to Niko Yamiyawa, who left Tennessee.
• 1:03:45
  And people have been saying it's been looking like a bad look for
• 1:03:47
  him. He looked like his Tennessee for
• 1:03:49
  him again against Penn State. Supposed to elite defense with
• 1:03:51
  Jim Knowles, who you stole from Ohio State to play against Ohio
• 1:03:55
  State. And now you're not even at that
• 1:03:58
  game yet. And the season's pretty much
• 1:03:59
  already over. So like, look, Franklin, I
• 1:04:02
  respect him. He's a he's a good, he's a good
• 1:04:05
  program builder. He's a fantastic recruiter, but
• 1:04:07
  he's just such a mediocre coach, especially in game decisions.
• 1:04:11
  He cannot get it done. We as a Penn State fan, if
• 1:04:14
  you're your supporter, Franklin, I don't really know what more
• 1:04:17
  you need to see other than the fact to show you that he's not
• 1:04:19
  the guy. And like, I understand you have
• 1:04:21
  to have a guy like you have to say who you going to have
• 1:04:24
  replace him. But like the experiment's done,
• 1:04:27
  it's over. He needs to be gone.
• 1:04:29
  I'm just so sick of James Franklin.
• 1:04:31
  I respect him as a guy. I think his players love him.
• 1:04:35
  I just don't think they respect him anymore.
• 1:04:36
  I think his messages are bland. And the thing that I've always
• 1:04:40
  felt about him in my heart of hearts is that James Franklin is
• 1:04:44
  Mike Tomlin without rings. He is Mike Tomlin post 2015.
• 1:04:49
  That is all he is. If you watch the Pittsburgh
• 1:04:51
  Steelers every single year post 2015, they've had solid teams
• 1:04:56
  around 9:00 and 8:00, maybe 10 and 10 and seven, whatever, make
• 1:05:00
  the playoffs, lose in the first round, one and done.
• 1:05:02
  And that's what James Franklin is.
• 1:05:03
  And sure, they made the dance last year, they beat Boise
• 1:05:07
  State, they beat SMU. But you come up against a big
• 1:05:10
  team in Notre Dame and you'll lose the game.
• 1:05:12
  And even if they won that game, we weren't going to beat Ohio
• 1:05:15
  State. That's just the truth.
• 1:05:16
  So I'm I'm done with the season, I'm not Pat Kraft.
• 1:05:20
  If it was up to me, he wouldn't even been alone home on the
• 1:05:22
  plane ride home, he would have been fired on the spot.
• 1:05:24
  But look fine let him finish the season.
• 1:05:27
  But he needs to be done. I'll pay for his buy.
• 1:05:29
  I'll I'm an alumni now. I'll I'll get a like a 56
• 1:05:34
  million. Playing somewhere he needs.
• 1:05:36
  To go. You got 56 million in the couch
• 1:05:39
  cushions. Armando, you, you mentioned
• 1:05:42
  that, he mentioned that very similar to Pittsburgh, also your
• 1:05:46
  favorite professional team. How do you feel about that
• 1:05:48
  comparison? It resonates so bad, so much, so
• 1:05:52
  much. It resonates so much because I
• 1:05:54
  you said it and it hurt. And it's true.
• 1:05:57
  They always have a decent defense that gets us to the
• 1:06:00
  first round of the playoffs and then we lose.
• 1:06:02
  It's not been easy, you know, being a Penn State or a Steelers
• 1:06:05
  or a Dolphins fan for that matter, you know, for the last
• 1:06:09
  couple years. Yeah, Armando, I'm sorry, I
• 1:06:11
  should have said they are this. They are the post 2015 Steelers
• 1:06:14
  on paper, but they in terms of hype, they are the Dallas
• 1:06:17
  Cowboys. That is what Penn State is every
• 1:06:21
  single year. And you know what?
• 1:06:22
  I. Drank.
• 1:06:24
  I drank the freaking kool-aid this year because I, I believe
• 1:06:26
  that, you know, Ohio State just won.
• 1:06:28
  They lost a bunch of their players to the draft, Dylan
• 1:06:30
  Gabriel in Oregon, they're weakened.
• 1:06:32
  Michigan's not quite there yet. We're ranked number 2 is the
• 1:06:34
  most fake bullshit #2 ranking ever.
• 1:06:38
  NFL offensive line. Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Good running backs, new transfer receivers, still a decent
• 1:06:45
  defense. I hear you, man.
• 1:06:46
  It's, it's been, it's been awful.
• 1:06:48
  Bring back Bill O'Brien. Honestly, yeah.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah. And you mentioned too.
• 1:06:53
  I mean, I, I, I'm so happy that Tyler Warren got drafted.
• 1:06:56
  I still don't understand what the Bears were thinking.
• 1:06:58
  I wanted him to go to Chicago because I have some family in
• 1:07:01
  Chicago who are Bears fans. I don't know what they were
• 1:07:03
  thinking with Colston Loving because you can see so how much
• 1:07:05
  Tyler Warren met to Penn State if you watched this last year
• 1:07:07
  and how great he is with Indianapolis like. 100.
• 1:07:11
  Percent. You know, boys, I I appreciate
• 1:07:14
  you guys coming on before I let you go.
• 1:07:16
  Errol, how disgusted are you at these takes?
• 1:07:20
  I listen, I have a lot of respect for both of you.
• 1:07:22
  Obviously, I this is the first time I met your brother-in-law.
• 1:07:25
  So it's very nice to meet you, Jake.
• 1:07:29
  You know I love you, man. And, and I, I like I had to cut
• 1:07:32
  you off because I disagree with you on the Tom Coughlin take as
• 1:07:36
  far as the Mike Tomlin take, and I understand what you guys are
• 1:07:39
  saying. Mike Tomlin won a frigging Super
• 1:07:42
  Bowl. OK, could you guys stop?
• 1:07:45
  He won a Super Bowl and he was consistent winning his coach in
• 1:07:49
  NFL history in the last 12 seasons.
• 1:07:53
  That's fine. It doesn't really matter.
• 1:07:58
  The fact is, is he won a Super Bowl.
• 1:08:00
  The guy's been consistent. He hasn't won.
• 1:08:03
  Well, guess what? Let's go back and look at his
• 1:08:05
  quarterback, OK? He's not the GM.
• 1:08:07
  He's not picking the quarterbacks.
• 1:08:09
  They picked the quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers to Russell Wilson
• 1:08:13
  to Justin Fields, who they completely thrown away.
• 1:08:16
  To sit here and say that Mike Tomlin is Franklin, that's
• 1:08:19
  ridiculous. And by the way, you want to buy
• 1:08:21
  out his contract? How many people were trying to
• 1:08:23
  buy out Billy Napier's contract last year?
• 1:08:26
  The alumni tried to buy out his contract, and he still has a
• 1:08:29
  job. Please, guys, I know you Penn
• 1:08:32
  State fans are going to sit here.
• 1:08:33
  Listen, you guys think I don't know what I'm talking about.
• 1:08:36
  That's fine. I do watch college, maybe not as
• 1:08:38
  much as you guys, but I know what I'm talking about.
• 1:08:40
  And for you guys to come out and say that this guy isn't a
• 1:08:44
  winner, he's Mike Tomlin, he's this, he's that.
• 1:08:47
  You don't throw away something good no matter what.
• 1:08:50
  The guy knows how to recruit and eventually he will get it right.
• 1:08:54
  Now, Adler wasn't the guy and I never thought he was.
• 1:08:58
  And for you guys to think now you go with Mizzou, you're
• 1:09:01
  talking about the Mizzou quarterback.
• 1:09:02
  They should have kept them. I agree with you, Jake.
• 1:09:04
  That's probably the only thing I agree with on any of your takes
• 1:09:07
  that you make. OK.
• 1:09:08
  The fact here is Penn State right now was ranked #2 in the
• 1:09:12
  country to say it was fall. It's this and that.
• 1:09:15
  Going into the season, they had the most talented offensive line
• 1:09:18
  in the country and they had two of the most dedicated, decorated
• 1:09:22
  running backs coming out of the college college offseason.
• 1:09:26
  Everybody thought they were going to be a run and just
• 1:09:29
  dominate at the off the offensive line.
• 1:09:31
  It just hasn't happened that way.
• 1:09:33
  Maybe it's the coaching staff, maybe it's this, maybe it's
• 1:09:35
  that. You want to blame somebody, you
• 1:09:36
  want to blame the coach, blame the coach.
• 1:09:38
  But you can't tell me that this Adler guy is anything special
• 1:09:42
  from a big, tall, goofy guy that tries to run outside a pocket
• 1:09:45
  and throw on the run, which by the way, he's absolutely
• 1:09:48
  horrible doing. So to me, the comparison to any
• 1:09:51
  of these guys that say what you're saying, he's not Mike
• 1:09:53
  Tomlin. And I think Penn State is a lot
• 1:09:56
  better than you guys think he is that think they are.
• 1:09:59
  They have a good recruiting class coming in next year.
• 1:10:01
  You can shake your head all you want.
• 1:10:02
  They do. They're ranked in the top five
• 1:10:04
  in recruiting classes next year. There, but it's not going to
• 1:10:06
  change. Franklin's choking.
• 1:10:08
  That's that's he brings in. We don't win the games.
• 1:10:12
  Let me ask you a question. Talent.
• 1:10:14
  We've had talent on talent on talent.
• 1:10:16
  They don't win when it matters. Like I don't know how much more
• 1:10:20
  proof or how much more time he needs.
• 1:10:21
  Like he's had plenty of opportunities.
• 1:10:24
  He went, he brought in at First of all, they made a mistake with
• 1:10:28
  the quarterback. I didn't think he was the right
• 1:10:30
  fit to the way they wanted to run their offense.
• 1:10:32
  They're a running team. They should have kept the Mizzou
• 1:10:35
  quarterback. I watched him last year, he was
• 1:10:37
  good. They went, they went wrong on
• 1:10:39
  that. If they kept him, they're
• 1:10:41
  they're probably going for a national championship this year.
• 1:10:44
  They screwed up with the quarterback.
• 1:10:46
  They they screwed up with the quarterback.
• 1:10:48
  You want to blame coach, blame the coach.
• 1:10:50
  It's not always the coach, it's the players around them.
• 1:10:53
  And and unfortunately their quarterback is so overrated.
• 1:10:56
  You want to know? You don't want to know.
• 1:10:57
  My opinion as their quarterback is not really any good.
• 1:11:01
  He's not an NFL quarterback in my eyes.
• 1:11:03
  And everybody thought he was a first round talent.
• 1:11:05
  By the way, Josh Silverberg, if you're listening to us right
• 1:11:07
  now, this is the same guy that you thought was a first round
• 1:11:11
  talent. He's horrible.
• 1:11:14
  He's not good. He's an oversized doof.
• 1:11:17
  But I think he will get drafted and he's a Cleveland kid, so
• 1:11:20
  he'll probably just get drafted the Browns and be another.
• 1:11:22
  Part He'll get to replace the door.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah. Christian Hackenberg's locker.
• 1:11:37
  Old locker ready? For my prediction, by the way,
• 1:11:39
  boys, you want to hear this, I'm sorry to cut you off.
• 1:11:42
  Should Door Sanders next year in the offseason will be traded to
• 1:11:45
  Jacksonville? Book it.
• 1:11:47
  Book it. I said that he's going to be
• 1:11:49
  traded to Jacksonville. Take that.
• 1:11:51
  Remember I said that? Apparently remember I said that
• 1:11:54
  the gremlin an unbelievable play tonight.
• 1:11:56
  I haven't seen it yet. Stop it, guys.
• 1:11:58
  I'm just telling you that's what I saw.
• 1:12:00
  Guys. Thank you so much for joining us
• 1:12:02
  tonight with this Penn State little seance that we're having.
• 1:12:06
  Thought it was a real good show. Special thanks to Thomas
• 1:12:09
  Caranante, fan sided content director, Co host of the Yanks
• 1:12:13
  Go Yard podcast. Follow him at X at Tommy's under
• 1:12:17
  score takes and find his channel on YouTube.
• 1:12:21
  He was fantastic. Really good stuff on the Yankees
• 1:12:24
  earlier tonight. We had a lot of fun.
• 1:12:26
  Thanks. Special thanks to Jake and
• 1:12:28
  Armando Horda coming on talking about their beloved Penn State
• 1:12:31
  Nittany Lions and the struggles they're dealing with over here.
• 1:12:35
  And a real special thanks to our intern Jared, who did all the
• 1:12:39
  work backstage as a producer for the first time while I'm here in
• 1:12:42
  the in the host chair. That's a great job by you,
• 1:12:45
  Jared. Thank you for all the work that
• 1:12:46
  you put in tonight. Was Jared was rocking a jersey
• 1:12:49
  too? What jersey was he rocking?
• 1:12:50
  Yeah, Jared, come on into the the screen.
• 1:12:52
  You deserve to be in here for a little bit at the end of the
• 1:12:55
  show. You got some kind of Basketball
• 1:12:57
  Jersey going where we got you. I'll, I'll do it Speedy.
• 1:13:03
  Here, I'll bounce out no. No, you're fine.
• 1:13:05
  It's just me and Speedy are having a war of who's going to
• 1:13:07
  add us at Jarrett right now with our clicker fingers.
• 1:13:10
  Jarrett, I think you might be frozen.
• 1:13:13
  So we're not going to see it right now, unfortunately.
• 1:13:16
  But Jarrett's done a great job for us.
• 1:13:19
  Errol will be back. We're not having the show on
• 1:13:21
  Wednesday because he's not going to be back.
• 1:13:23
  So we're going to have it on Thursday.
• 1:13:25
  So pay attention. The show will be on Thursday.
• 1:13:27
  By then, we'll know if the Yankees are going to Game 5 or
• 1:13:30
  we're doing a post mortem on the season.
• 1:13:32
  Also Thursday, speedy, the Giants face the Eagles.
• 1:13:35
  We're going to have to do the show live while that's going on.
• 1:13:40
  I don't know if I can handle that.
• 1:13:41
  That's going to be tough. One.
• 1:13:42
  I think they're going to get absolutely murdered.
• 1:13:45
  It's it's not good. It's not a good look for the
• 1:13:47
  Giants. But maybe the Eagles are a
• 1:13:49
  little, you know, struggling a little bit.
• 1:13:51
  Maybe Brian Dabel and Shane Bowen will cook something up for
• 1:13:54
  him. Speedy.
• 1:13:55
  To only. Lose by 14.
• 1:14:00
  Honestly, if they lose, I guess losing is losing at this point,
• 1:14:03
  but I do hope it's a little bit competitive.
• 1:14:06
  Well, it should be good on Thursday.
• 1:14:07
  Who do you who do we have coming on Thursday?
• 1:14:09
  Alright, well, thanks to the the new King of the Jungle for
• 1:14:12
  getting us these two guests, 2 very special guests.
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  First one is Jane Butler. She's the CEO of the nonprofit
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  organization Encourage Kids Foundation, based out of based
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  out of New York, supporting hospitalized children.
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  So she'll be the first one. And the second one is a
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  celebrity chef, Glenn Rolnick, who is the director of culinary
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  operations for the Ala Carte Restaurant Group, where he's
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  worked there for the last 11 years in New York City.
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  So both of them will be joining us at 8:45.
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  That's great. You know, we've been trying to
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  talk about get with some of these people that do these kind
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  of functions, get our name out there, be be a part of some of
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  those better functions that are going on, especially charitable
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  things. That's something that job in the
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  mouth is going to be looking forward to doing in the next
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  calendar year. You guys are going to see us
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  around. You're going to see us
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  everywhere. I know Jabba's doing the rounds
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  You see them, give them a shout out.
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  Guys, it's been a wonderful night.
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  I hope you guys get some good rest and we'll see you back on
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  Thursday. Have a good one, everybody.
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