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- 0:00Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentals Sports to Jordan ninety three
- 0:03Speaker 1: point three KJRFM Sports Headlines.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrewed cors Light. Choose
- 0:08Speaker 2: Chill MS above five hundred for the first time in
- 0:10Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. They beat the Reds eight nothing
- 0:12Speaker 2: last night. Cal Rawley his sixth career Grand Slam. George
- 0:14Speaker 2: Kirby only three hits and six innings eighty pitches. Though
- 0:17Speaker 2: weird night in that regard, but the Ms move a
- 0:19Speaker 2: half game ahead of the Rangers atop the Al West.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Chase Burns last Castillo take them Mount tonight, second game
- 0:24Speaker 2: of the series. Juio Rodriguez removed for the game before
- 0:27Speaker 2: the start of the six hitting last night. He laid
- 0:29Speaker 2: out an infield hit. That was a strange thing too.
- 0:31Speaker 2: It was a precautionary move. I might remove myself from
- 0:34Speaker 2: the shold today. It's a precautionary move, Travis good a
- 0:38Speaker 2: cautionary move. Whatever sales. Storm rookie fo j Johnson score
- 0:42Speaker 2: twenty six, but she missed a three pointer at the buzzer.
- 0:45Speaker 2: The Storm lost the links one of five one or
- 0:47Speaker 2: two links. By the way, the best team in the
- 0:48Speaker 2: Western Conference. Storm are if they're not the worst, they
- 0:51Speaker 2: must be closer six and twenty two. Yeah, they are
- 0:53Speaker 2: the worst, bottom of the conference.
- 0:54Speaker 3: There you go.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Thank you wrote that down there for me. Thank you
- 0:56Speaker 2: for helping me out with that. No problem, she got
- 0:59Speaker 2: a great look to tie the game. Just ah, let's see.
- 1:03Speaker 2: That's good enough for now. Let's go. I can't tell
- 1:05Speaker 2: because we just had a massive little power surge for
- 1:08Speaker 2: the last three or four minutes. So we are crossing
- 1:10Speaker 2: our fingers that things are working. I think we're back
- 1:13Speaker 2: on the generator. That generator is working overtime the last
- 1:15Speaker 2: three months. Trap working real hard. It's working hard. You
- 1:18Speaker 2: know what? Better now that we have another gong show
- 1:22Speaker 2: here at this building with power. Then during the damn
- 1:25Speaker 2: World Cup, when you guys were doing all those shows
- 1:27Speaker 2: for one hundred plus stations across the country, I lost
- 1:29Speaker 2: power during a broad No, did you really?
- 1:31Speaker 4: That was on Seattle City Light.
- 1:33Speaker 2: That was not that was that wasn't the Marty Sea
- 1:37Speaker 2: League building issue like we've been having. Correct. They haven't
- 1:40Speaker 2: asked us to evacuate yet. This is like an ongoing thing.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Are we on? I don't know. Everything's flickering on, the
- 1:45Speaker 2: TV goes off, everything goes off, the power's gone, and
- 1:48Speaker 2: I think we think we're on. Oh yeah, it's not
- 1:51Speaker 2: like this is an ancient studio, which is weird because
- 1:54Speaker 2: it's not. And the building is, I mean, by building standards,
- 1:58Speaker 2: fairly new. But I missed three fifty one Elliot down
- 2:01Speaker 2: the street. That place was great. All right, here we are.
- 2:05Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Mariners. Are you on or
- 2:07Speaker 2: you off? Are we good? Are we bad?
- 2:08Speaker 1: Up?
- 2:08Speaker 2: And down? Last night they were up. We'll get into
- 2:11Speaker 2: them in just a couple of seconds. Normal show today
- 2:16Speaker 2: on a Tuesday with a couple guys you used to
- 2:17Speaker 2: hearing on Tuesdays. We'll start off with Joshian at one
- 2:19Speaker 2: twenty here in about an hour and twenty minutes, all
- 2:22Speaker 2: things Baseball with Joe, the Joshian Newsletter, and then John Lynn.
- 2:25Speaker 2: This week we visit it too. Our buddy Corbyn Smith
- 2:29Speaker 2: will join us coming up at twelve twenty today. You know,
- 2:34Speaker 2: I want to start a little bit different place today.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I know the Maritors are top of mind. I get
- 2:38Speaker 2: that the big news in sports today is what happened
- 2:44Speaker 2: in sports media over the last twenty four hours, not
- 2:46Speaker 2: even the last twenty four like the last twenty two
- 2:48Speaker 2: hours because we went off. When we were going off
- 2:49Speaker 2: the air yesterday, trav it was we found out that
- 2:52Speaker 2: one of the biggest names of ESPN, Ryan Clark, had
- 2:54Speaker 2: been let go part of the layoffs which are going
- 2:57Speaker 2: to be announced today and then more today a ESPN
- 3:01Speaker 2: had another purge. Unfortunately, we know that all too well
- 3:04Speaker 2: in our business and frankly with our company that it's
- 3:07Speaker 2: it's it's a hard time in the media business. It
- 3:09Speaker 2: just is. And you know there's oftentimes you hear people say, well,
- 3:12Speaker 2: it's just you know, you get into it. You got
- 3:14Speaker 2: to understand that's going to be part of it. No, no, no,
- 3:15Speaker 2: you know, you shouldn't have to look over your shoulder
- 3:17Speaker 2: all the time. But we are. That's that's where we
- 3:19Speaker 2: live in now. We do more so than anytime I
- 3:21Speaker 2: can remember, my god going on three decades in this thing.
- 3:25Speaker 2: It's it just is. The wild thing today for me
- 3:28Speaker 2: is a sports fan. I just want to speak as
- 3:30Speaker 2: a sports fan, not somebody in the media, but as
- 3:31Speaker 2: a sports fan. And I love to get people's thoughts
- 3:33Speaker 2: on this. At four nine, four or five one on
- 3:36Speaker 2: the Tacoma Dodge text line, the the the way we
- 3:41Speaker 2: consume sports now and sports highlights. Listen, we we all
- 3:50Speaker 2: every every outlet, every medium has its blemishes, whether we're
- 3:56Speaker 2: talking about sports, radio, sports TV, how we broadcast games,
- 4:01Speaker 2: where games are broadcasts. We just talked about it yesterday
- 4:03Speaker 2: a little bit. I think I did it with who
- 4:06Speaker 2: was I talking to yesterday? The Netflix thing we were
- 4:08Speaker 2: having the conversation with, you know, I I it's how
- 4:15Speaker 2: we consume things is just very different that used to be.
- 4:18Speaker 2: But I feel like we've lost something. I feel like
- 4:21Speaker 2: I have lost something as a sports fan. And maybe
- 4:23Speaker 2: it's just because I'm not surfing around the right places
- 4:27Speaker 2: to find highlights, but god, I missed the days of
- 4:31Speaker 2: turning on ESPN and watching a sports center for an
- 4:35Speaker 2: hour and feeling like I was all caught up in
- 4:37Speaker 2: the world of sports. You know, I just felt and
- 4:42Speaker 2: in some ways it was modeled after the national evening news,
- 4:45Speaker 2: the ABC Evening News or you know ABC News tonight,
- 4:48Speaker 2: or NBC News or the CBS news that that the
- 4:51Speaker 2: you know, the six o'clock newscast that was a national newscast.
- 4:54Speaker 2: You figure if you watch that along with your local
- 4:57Speaker 2: your local news, that you were kind of caught up
- 5:00Speaker 2: in what was going on. You knew the important things.
- 5:03Speaker 2: And in our world, our world being you know, sports media.
- 5:09Speaker 2: I feel like as a sports fan, I don't feel
- 5:12Speaker 2: like I can turn on ESPN and feel like I'm
- 5:14Speaker 2: caught up. I don't see all the highlights. I see
- 5:17Speaker 2: a lot of Lebron James and the Lakers. I see
- 5:19Speaker 2: a lot of the Dallas Cowboys. I see a lot
- 5:22Speaker 2: of things I just don't care about. I care about
- 5:24Speaker 2: those things a little bit, but you know, I want
- 5:26Speaker 2: to see all the games. Give me a highlight. You know,
- 5:29Speaker 2: baseball doesn't have stars like it used to. I'd blame
- 5:33Speaker 2: ESPN for that, partly partly. Used to be we would
- 5:35Speaker 2: see all these guys, you would see highlights from everybody.
- 5:38Speaker 2: I mean, Dela Cruz last night for the Reds was awful,
- 5:40Speaker 2: Like he was just absolutely awful. But he's a bright,
- 5:42Speaker 2: shining star in Major League Baseball. You'll never see him
- 5:45Speaker 2: on Sports Center. He plays for the Reds. They're not
- 5:47Speaker 2: very good. They're actually they're really bad. That's a way
- 5:50Speaker 2: we think the Mariners are a bad defensive team. Holy Holy,
- 5:54Speaker 2: that is a that is a little league caliber defense
- 5:57Speaker 2: we saw last night from the Reds. But the point being,
- 6:00Speaker 2: I feel like we've lost something that's important as a
- 6:03Speaker 2: sports fan, I don't need Scott Van Pelt's kind of Listen,
- 6:08Speaker 2: this is unpopular opinion. I get this. I feel like
- 6:12Speaker 2: there's a there's too much Scott van Pelt, there's too
- 6:16Speaker 2: much Stephen A. Smith, there's too much Mike Greenberg, and
- 6:19Speaker 2: there's way too much because if there's like two seconds
- 6:22Speaker 2: of Pat McAfee, that's too much of Pat McAfee. Yeah,
- 6:27Speaker 2: the Karl Ravitch's a couple of the other guys that
- 6:31Speaker 2: people that got laid off today of the Sports Center anchors, like,
- 6:35Speaker 2: just give me an hour of Sports Center, give me
- 6:37Speaker 2: some news, not having people stand in front of a
- 6:40Speaker 2: big sum on which is a big video wall, and
- 6:43Speaker 2: just sit at the desk and tell me who won
- 6:46Speaker 2: each of the How did Texas do last night? How
- 6:48Speaker 2: does it relate to the ALE West? What's going on
- 6:50Speaker 2: the ALE Central, what's going on the National League? You know,
- 6:52Speaker 2: why are we waiting for an NBA schedule to come out?
- 6:54Speaker 2: It's because of Lebron. Okay, that's our sixty second read.
- 6:57Speaker 2: That's a Vosata veo and a sound bite. We don't
- 7:01Speaker 2: have that anymore. You know, it's sad what's happened to ESPN.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Tom Pellisero also got let go today. We had him
- 7:07Speaker 2: on the show a few while ago. I've known Tom
- 7:08Speaker 2: for a little while, got to see him a lot
- 7:10Speaker 2: at Seahawks. He's kind of the one guy that came
- 7:12Speaker 2: out with the NFL network every year for Seahawks during
- 7:15Speaker 2: training camp. Great dude dialed in so good he gets
- 7:20Speaker 2: let go. The media business is changing. It's hard, and
- 7:24Speaker 2: maybe many of you think it's fine. I don't. I miss.
- 7:28Speaker 2: I just miss certain simple things like a sports center.
- 7:31Speaker 2: I just do. And Carl Ravage leaving you know he's
- 7:36Speaker 2: I don't. I never would say he's a jag, just
- 7:38Speaker 2: a guy. I thought he was a lot more than that.
- 7:40Speaker 2: He was a face of baseball for that network for
- 7:42Speaker 2: thirty years. Baseball to Night with the two in front
- 7:46Speaker 2: of him. You still on the ESPN two first started.
- 7:48Speaker 2: They had all these things like NASCAR to Night. Kenny
- 7:50Speaker 2: Mayne was part of that Baseball to night, Hockey to night,
- 7:54Speaker 2: NBA two Night with the two in front of it,
- 7:56Speaker 2: kind of nightly highly shows for those particular sports hostings
- 7:59Speaker 2: all have gone away. But it's a sad day, man,
- 8:02Speaker 2: It's a sad day. Unless you're screaming at a television
- 8:04Speaker 2: screen at the top of your lungs, or wearing a
- 8:08Speaker 2: cutoff shirt and a tank top and growing out all day.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just showing my age, but it's just to me.
- 8:15Speaker 2: It's a sad It's a sad another sad day in
- 8:17Speaker 2: our in our business, and it's a sad day for
- 8:19Speaker 2: a sports fan, not just in our business as a
- 8:21Speaker 2: media person, it's a sad day for a sports fan,
- 8:24Speaker 2: you know. I think there will always be a role,
- 8:28Speaker 2: and I have noticed because there are certain people that
- 8:30Speaker 2: like to write about what we do here at KJR
- 8:32Speaker 2: that don't work here anymore, used to work here anymore.
- 8:36Speaker 2: I do notice that there's a lot of people want
- 8:37Speaker 2: to bash what we do, as I'm doing right now
- 8:40Speaker 2: with ESPN, and I get that. I understand it comes
- 8:43Speaker 2: with the territory. We're not perfect companies, far far far
- 8:48Speaker 2: from perfect financially otherwise. But I think there's always gonna
- 8:53Speaker 2: be a role for sports radio locally. I think there
- 8:56Speaker 2: is going to be a role. Because you're tuning in
- 8:58Speaker 2: right now. You want to you want me to talk
- 8:59Speaker 2: about cal and Hitt no Grand Slam and how that
- 9:02Speaker 2: relates to to where he's been lately, right, Like, that's
- 9:05Speaker 2: that's I mean, I mean, he hadn't hit a home
- 9:07Speaker 2: run in a long time. It's his tenth of the season.
- 9:10Speaker 2: He still was won for five last night. By the way, guys,
- 9:12Speaker 2: that's not a great night, but he did have the
- 9:14Speaker 2: bomb when they're up three to nothing. I don't care
- 9:17Speaker 2: about what the home run did for one night. I
- 9:19Speaker 2: care about what the home run did for the bigger
- 9:22Speaker 2: picture for him, sure, which we'll talk about probably more
- 9:24Speaker 2: at one o'clock and then obviously Joe at one twenty.
- 9:27Speaker 2: But there's always be a role for us locally here,
- 9:32Speaker 2: I think, because you want to know what's going on
- 9:33Speaker 2: with the Marriners. You want to know on starting this weekend,
- 9:36Speaker 2: and certainly a week from yesterday next Monday, when we're
- 9:39Speaker 2: out of the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, what's going on
- 9:40Speaker 2: with the Seahawks. You know, there's people in our business
- 9:43Speaker 2: that will mock that I don't care about the storylines.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Oh no, that's fine, whatever, you don't care about the storylines.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Here's the thing most people listening to they want to
- 9:49Speaker 2: know who what the running back rotation looks like, who's
- 9:51Speaker 2: number one is? Is it price?
- 9:54Speaker 3: Is that?
- 9:54Speaker 2: Who the guys? Is he number one?
- 9:55Speaker 3: You know? Where?
- 9:56Speaker 2: Is Halani really a guy they're going to lean on?
- 9:58Speaker 2: Corverne'll tell us he has because he loves him. He's
- 9:59Speaker 2: got me and crush on him. That's fine, you know.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Is Sundell going to be a long term and trench
- 10:04Speaker 2: guy at center? Is brad forget to get supplanted? What's
- 10:06Speaker 2: going on with even worry that none of that stuffs
- 10:08Speaker 2: being addressed on ESPN. But ESPN to give us something
- 10:11Speaker 2: for many years, they gave us the rest of the country,
- 10:14Speaker 2: and I think that's important. I think there's a good
- 10:16Speaker 2: there's a good balance between what you need locally as
- 10:18Speaker 2: a sports fan and what you need nationally as a
- 10:21Speaker 2: sports fan. And when they have the layoffs at ESPN
- 10:26Speaker 2: like they did today and you're losing great anchors, solid
- 10:29Speaker 2: anchors that are just meating potato guys because they don't
- 10:32Speaker 2: scream at the camera, that's a sad day for a
- 10:35Speaker 2: sports fan, both locally and nationally. Hopefully locally will continue
- 10:39Speaker 2: support or continue to give you what you want. Not always,
- 10:43Speaker 2: but we'll keep trying. We'll do our best. You know,
- 10:47Speaker 2: when stuff does break, we're on the air, Nicki min
- 10:50Speaker 2: Warri goes on the pup yesterday at two twenty. We
- 10:53Speaker 2: were on the air. We talked about it right away.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Hugh talked about it with Benton here later today we
- 10:58Speaker 2: will talk about with Corbyn coming up. We're here for
- 11:00Speaker 2: stuff when it breaks, we're there on site live ad events. Also,
- 11:04Speaker 2: you can't get there with a podcast.
- 11:05Speaker 4: And where are you getting coverage from six am to seven.
- 11:08Speaker 2: P you're not And especially for your local teams, you know,
- 11:11Speaker 2: whether it's us or somebody else. You know, like we
- 11:14Speaker 2: have competition this market. You know, I want to beat
- 11:17Speaker 2: those guys, they want to beat us. But I think
- 11:19Speaker 2: it's important. Vancouver BC just lost their last sport station.
- 11:22Speaker 2: They have nothing up their live nothing, it's all podcasts.
- 11:27Speaker 2: But I think there's a good balance between what we
- 11:29Speaker 2: do here and we do our damnedest, even if we're
- 11:32Speaker 2: short staffed, or even if things are happening behind the
- 11:34Speaker 2: scenes that you know, Chuck address that, that's fine, Bucky's
- 11:37Speaker 2: not here anymore, he's gone. Chuck addressed that really well
- 11:40Speaker 2: both Fridday and yesterday. Even though stuff goes behind the
- 11:43Speaker 2: scenes that you know, a lot of it you keep internal.
- 11:46Speaker 2: But yeah, it's still public because we're all facing the public.
- 11:50Speaker 2: You know, we're here, We're out in front of everybody
- 11:52Speaker 2: every day. But what we do every day is we
- 11:54Speaker 2: try to give you the best that we can of
- 11:56Speaker 2: what's going on locally as it happens. And Sports Center
- 12:00Speaker 2: for so long did the same thing, but they've lost
- 12:03Speaker 2: sight of that, and that's sad as a sports fan.
- 12:06Speaker 2: That's you know what I have on right now. I've
- 12:07Speaker 2: got the CBS Sports Network, CBS HQ up there right now,
- 12:11Speaker 2: which is it's phenomenals on the CBS Sports Network, which
- 12:14Speaker 2: carries a lot of games during the year to the
- 12:16Speaker 2: college season. But like they've got here's what's going on.
- 12:18Speaker 2: They're talking about the Arizona Cardinals. You'd never see someone
- 12:22Speaker 2: talking about the NFC Western Arizona Cardinals on ESPN. I
- 12:25Speaker 2: think NFL Live might be on right now. I couldn't
- 12:28Speaker 2: watch that thing if you paid me because it's two teams.
- 12:31Speaker 2: They talk about three teams at the most. We need
- 12:34Speaker 2: that in sports. I'm off, I'm off my soapbox. Okay,
- 12:39Speaker 2: we'll get to cal coming up at one o'clock today.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Joe Sheen'll spend some time with us as well. That
- 12:43Speaker 2: was a Big Night five RBIs. One of them was
- 12:44Speaker 2: a fielder's choice, but the other one was a grand slam.
- 12:46Speaker 2: I just respected. I just thought it was a classic
- 12:50Speaker 2: Caleb Ferguson. I love that. Oh my god, that was turd.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Ferguson just did his thing. Remember that big acquisition last
- 12:56Speaker 2: year for the Bears that got him in. Yeah, that's him,
- 12:59Speaker 2: that's him right there. I saw his deal with the
- 13:01Speaker 2: umpire right.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Bill Miller, who's got to be in his sixties. I'll
- 13:04Speaker 2: tell a story about it, remember me. I got a
- 13:06Speaker 2: story in Bill Miller later. We'll get to that later
- 13:08Speaker 2: on today, we'll got we'll come back. Corbin Smith joined us.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Like I said, we were on the air yesterday, NICKI
- 13:13Speaker 2: min warre pup? What does it mean? Offensive line for
- 13:16Speaker 2: the Seahawks a preview training camp. Next, it's time.
- 13:21Speaker 1: To take a deep dive into all things Seahawks with
- 13:24Speaker 1: Corbyn Smith, sports reporter for Emerald City Spectrum. All Seattle Sports,
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- 13:44Speaker 2: Now with Corbyn Smith. Here's Ian all right. We're doing
- 13:48Speaker 2: this all week. Checking in with our friend Corbyn Smith
- 13:50Speaker 2: Emerald City Spectrum. He had the story up today on
- 13:52Speaker 2: the pup list at Emimalcityspectrum dot com. What it means,
- 13:56Speaker 2: why their guys are there, Macintosh, we know why, tyrom
- 13:59Speaker 2: Broden whatever. But Nicki Minooriy the headliner. We'll get to
- 14:02Speaker 2: that in a second. We also teach yesterday we talk
- 14:03Speaker 2: a little offensive line. Corbin wrote a great story there
- 14:05Speaker 2: as well. Hello sir, how are you?
- 14:08Speaker 5: I'm good, Thanks for having me.
- 14:09Speaker 2: As always, we are closing down. Countdown is on to
- 14:12Speaker 2: training camp Saturday Sunday. We'll be on the air on
- 14:16Speaker 2: Monday from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center for the first time,
- 14:19Speaker 2: many many times out there the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
- 14:22Speaker 2: We'll see our friend Corman out there on many of
- 14:23Speaker 2: those days as well, which we're excited for. I get
- 14:25Speaker 2: to hang out with him on the sideline and talk ball,
- 14:28Speaker 2: which I love doing with you, buddy. It's one of
- 14:29Speaker 2: my favorite things. I missdoing it in the press box.
- 14:31Speaker 2: With you on a weekly basis, but we get training
- 14:34Speaker 2: camp to hang out together. So I don't know about you.
- 14:36Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. Is this the time of
- 14:38Speaker 2: the year you get excited for, you stressed about, You've
- 14:41Speaker 2: fired up for what's going through your mind as we're
- 14:43Speaker 2: four days away?
- 14:45Speaker 6: You know, I always end up in a position ian like,
- 14:48Speaker 6: four or five days ahead of time. I'm just like, man,
- 14:51Speaker 6: there's so much that I want to write about that
- 14:54Speaker 6: it ends up becoming like it almost like becomes overbearing. Yeah,
- 14:57Speaker 6: what do I like? What do I want invest my
- 15:01Speaker 6: time in writing about? Especially you know, with the defending champions.
- 15:04Speaker 6: But this year, you know, it's it's interesting. There are
- 15:07Speaker 6: definitely some subjects that stand out above the rest. And
- 15:12Speaker 6: I think the fact that the Seattle Seahawks have an
- 15:15Speaker 6: offensive line that could be a strength like that that
- 15:20Speaker 6: by itself.
- 15:21Speaker 5: It's the off season.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Let me We're gonna get to the old line in
- 15:27Speaker 2: just a second. I want to do two things. First, Uh,
- 15:30Speaker 2: yesterday we talked about non non NFL stuff to start.
- 15:33Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that again today because you tweeted something.
- 15:35Speaker 2: I just spent the first segment talking about I'm sad
- 15:38Speaker 2: where our business is I'm sad and I just got
- 15:41Speaker 2: a ton of text by the way Travu moments ago,
- 15:46Speaker 2: what what has happened to ESPN and what what happened today?
- 15:50Speaker 2: None of us like to see layoffs in this business
- 15:52Speaker 2: of media or sports media corporn. What my thought was
- 15:56Speaker 2: at the start, I miss the old regular Sports Center
- 16:00Speaker 2: when you know you could turn it on and I
- 16:02Speaker 2: didn't have Scott Van Pelp doing long term interview you know,
- 16:05Speaker 2: like twelve minute interviews like he's buddy buddies with the guy.
- 16:08Speaker 2: I just want to know what happened in the games.
- 16:09Speaker 2: I want to see highlights from all the teams all
- 16:12Speaker 2: the time, and all the games. And somebody texted in
- 16:15Speaker 2: two five three, I think it's a great one. ESPN
- 16:17Speaker 2: has become a giant op ed column. Too much personality,
- 16:20Speaker 2: not enough sports, the sports, just a way for the
- 16:22Speaker 2: host to give their opinions. I don't know what's happened.
- 16:25Speaker 2: ESPN is the behemoth in our business. To see them
- 16:28Speaker 2: struggle and I don't know struggles a funny word to use.
- 16:31Speaker 2: It's frightening. You started a website. You went out and
- 16:34Speaker 2: started a brand new website in addition to doing your
- 16:37Speaker 2: LOCKEDWN podcasts. It's a tough time, but you did it,
- 16:41Speaker 2: and I think you're having some decent success at it
- 16:43Speaker 2: and it's growing all the time. But you tweeted about
- 16:46Speaker 2: this today. What are your thoughts?
- 16:48Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm just disgusted ian because I like,
- 16:54Speaker 6: ESPN is a multi billion dollar corporation and I just
- 16:59Speaker 6: see what they are investing their money in. And you know,
- 17:04Speaker 6: you had the merger, the deal, and not the merger,
- 17:06Speaker 6: but the deal with the NFL network and now you're
- 17:08Speaker 6: dumping a lot of NFL networks really good talent, and
- 17:11Speaker 6: that that was disturbing. But just the idea that the
- 17:16Speaker 6: Pat McAfee's and the stephen A. Smiths of the world
- 17:19Speaker 6: are getting forty to sixty plus million dollars a year
- 17:24Speaker 6: for what, like, like what are I guess they're they
- 17:29Speaker 6: have to be making that money somehow, but like I
- 17:31Speaker 6: just I don't watch ESPN unless there's a live game on.
- 17:35Speaker 2: I just don't.
- 17:36Speaker 6: And growing up, that was that was my number one station,
- 17:40Speaker 6: Like I couldn't wait to hear you know, Stuart Scott
- 17:43Speaker 6: and all the other original hosts that they had, And
- 17:47Speaker 6: now it's just like, what show is going to be
- 17:51Speaker 6: on where guys are screaming at each other and making
- 17:53Speaker 6: no sense like that.
- 17:54Speaker 5: That's literally what it has turned into.
- 17:56Speaker 6: And I just I feel bad for a sports fan
- 18:01Speaker 6: because the sports fan deserves better than that, and certainly
- 18:04Speaker 6: the talent deserves a lot better than this, and it's
- 18:08Speaker 6: just unfortunately the way things have been that they've been
- 18:11Speaker 6: trending for the last decade, Like what is viewed as
- 18:16Speaker 6: talent that is worth paying is way different than what
- 18:19Speaker 6: I think it should be.
- 18:20Speaker 2: I'll just say that, yeah, And I don't want to
- 18:22Speaker 2: be too much of a hypocrite, because I mean, I'm
- 18:23Speaker 2: paid to come on a radio show every day and
- 18:25Speaker 2: talk sports but also give opinions and so. But at
- 18:28Speaker 2: the same time, I, you know, hopefully you do it,
- 18:30Speaker 2: and I'm yea, I don't know. It's just a different way.
- 18:32Speaker 2: I you know, when the David Lloyd's and the car
- 18:33Speaker 2: Ravach is the world getting laid off, I just I
- 18:36Speaker 2: it makes me upset. You're doing a great job, though
- 18:39Speaker 2: Animal City Spectrum has everything for all the local sports.
- 18:42Speaker 2: I hopefully I said earlier. I think we do the
- 18:44Speaker 2: same thing on this radio station. Try to get people
- 18:46Speaker 2: there the local sports they really care about, and we'll
- 18:48Speaker 2: continue to do that, all right, before we get to
- 18:50Speaker 2: the offensive line. Let's not bury the lead. Let's get
- 18:53Speaker 2: to it, because after we finish our conversation about literally
- 18:56Speaker 2: two hours later, the Seahawks send out a note. Here's
- 18:59Speaker 2: the guys being placed on the pup, and one of
- 19:03Speaker 2: those names was Nick. We expected Kenny Macintosh, Tyrone Broden
- 19:07Speaker 2: frankly is a fringe guy. But the guy that jumped
- 19:10Speaker 2: out Nick Emon Worrey, one of the most important players
- 19:13Speaker 2: on the roster. I mentioned yesterday, Corbyn. If I was
- 19:16Speaker 2: ranking for doing and you're doing the rankings right now
- 19:18Speaker 2: on the animalcy spectrum, I'm gonna assume he's in your
- 19:21Speaker 2: top five. Are pretty damn close in terms of important
- 19:24Speaker 2: for the Seahawks, Emon Worry on the pup. What level
- 19:28Speaker 2: of concern would you have for that?
- 19:31Speaker 6: I think if you could have a negative number, that's
- 19:34Speaker 6: what I would pick.
- 19:35Speaker 5: Okay, look, I I We'll see.
- 19:38Speaker 6: I mean maybe maybe he tweeked something like in the
- 19:40Speaker 6: last couple of days, but like I've got a unique
- 19:43Speaker 6: experience here.
- 19:44Speaker 5: Actually I posted this on social as.
- 19:46Speaker 6: Well, but I talked to Emon Worry in person for
- 19:50Speaker 6: a brief while on last Thursday because he had a
- 19:53Speaker 6: pro camp that he was hosting down in Edmonds.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Unfortunately for the kids there.
- 19:57Speaker 6: We didn't get to do the games at the end
- 20:00Speaker 6: because we had that random lightning storm that came in.
- 20:03Speaker 6: But he, yeah, he you wouldn't have known he was
- 20:06Speaker 6: dealing with an injury or anything like.
- 20:08Speaker 2: He looked perfectly healthy. He was very excited for the
- 20:10Speaker 2: start of training camp.
- 20:12Speaker 6: So I don't know if he you know, maybe he
- 20:14Speaker 6: was working out and he tweaked something.
- 20:16Speaker 5: And now, you know, teams are gonna.
- 20:18Speaker 6: Always air on the side of caution because you can't
- 20:20Speaker 6: put players on the pup list once they start practicing
- 20:23Speaker 6: at the beginning camp.
- 20:24Speaker 5: It's something that's got to be done ahead of times.
- 20:27Speaker 6: So you know, it could just be something, Hey, we'll
- 20:29Speaker 6: just coast a few days and see where we're at here.
- 20:32Speaker 6: And we've also seen plenty of times Ian where guys
- 20:35Speaker 6: have been placing the pup list and then they passed
- 20:37Speaker 6: their physical like a day or two later before camp
- 20:39Speaker 6: even starts.
- 20:40Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's.
- 20:42Speaker 6: What's gonna happen in this case, but I'd be surprised
- 20:45Speaker 6: if this is anything other than something really small that
- 20:49Speaker 6: they're just being careful with because again, he looked completely
- 20:53Speaker 6: healthy when I saw him, and he did everything in
- 20:54Speaker 6: the off season programs.
- 20:55Speaker 5: So I just I'd be surprised if there's anything.
- 20:59Speaker 2: I mean, if there was.
- 21:01Speaker 5: Something significant that happened, it would have happened in the.
- 21:03Speaker 6: Last three days, because he certainly was not dealing with
- 21:06Speaker 6: anything when I talked with him on Thursday.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Well, and see, that's the thing that's my concern level
- 21:12Speaker 2: I mentioned yesterday on the show. If I'm using the
- 21:14Speaker 2: old forest fire thing. We're just driving home through Mount
- 21:16Speaker 2: Hood the other day from Bend, Oregon, and you know
- 21:18Speaker 2: they got the little the color coded you know, green, yellow, orange, red.
- 21:24Speaker 2: I would say I'd be in the upper half of green,
- 21:26Speaker 2: not quite too yellow. I think that was the second color.
- 21:29Speaker 2: I'd be like right on the border of yellow green.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Only for this reason, it's the fear of the unknown,
- 21:34Speaker 2: like you, and I think part of it was when
- 21:36Speaker 2: I when I read what you said yesterday about oh yeah,
- 21:38Speaker 2: I mean we saw him, he was fine, and you
- 21:40Speaker 2: wrote about that, and I'm like, okay, well, but like
- 21:42Speaker 2: what hop Like why did all of a sudden he
- 21:44Speaker 2: not pass a physical like what's going on? And you know,
- 21:48Speaker 2: like he's there early because there was a he's he
- 21:50Speaker 2: didn't have to report. Tell Friday he was there early
- 21:52Speaker 2: because there's an issue of some sort, And you're right,
- 21:54Speaker 2: like Mini camp, he was fine. I guess to me,
- 21:58Speaker 2: it's just the fear of the unknown, like we just
- 22:01Speaker 2: know how this world works, Like all of a sudden,
- 22:03Speaker 2: it's like, well, that's weird. Where did that injury come from?
- 22:05Speaker 2: And how did that crop up?
- 22:06Speaker 5: We've definitely seen that.
- 22:08Speaker 2: Right, And that's I think the fear of the unknown
- 22:10Speaker 2: is my is my greatest concern. Where would you I
- 22:13Speaker 2: don't want to give all tho stuff away, but how
- 22:15Speaker 2: important is this guy to the roster?
- 22:18Speaker 5: Oh?
- 22:18Speaker 6: He's he is absolutely critical. I mean he unlocks. This
- 22:22Speaker 6: defense is really good without him. I mean we've seen
- 22:27Speaker 6: what this defense looked like four games open the season.
- 22:30Speaker 5: They were still really really good on defense.
- 22:32Speaker 2: But he just I've mentioned this before.
- 22:35Speaker 6: I don't think there's a guy in the NFL that
- 22:38Speaker 6: does this to the level that Nicki min Warri does
- 22:40Speaker 6: and the ability of having him on the field, like
- 22:43Speaker 6: typically the offenses are the dictators defensively, the Seahawks set
- 22:48Speaker 6: the they set the tunnel because they've got a guy
- 22:51Speaker 6: that can play like seven different positions, Like they can
- 22:54Speaker 6: keep the same personnel groupings on the field but be
- 22:58Speaker 6: doing different forms in different sets, moving him all over
- 23:02Speaker 6: the place. And he's really good at all the positions,
- 23:05Speaker 6: not like he can just line up somewhere.
- 23:07Speaker 5: Oh he can play, he can he can stand at edge.
- 23:09Speaker 6: He's not gonna make much of an impact, but we
- 23:11Speaker 6: saw that he makes an impact everywhere that he plays.
- 23:15Speaker 6: So if this is something that is more than just
- 23:18Speaker 6: a tweak, then that does become a very significant thing
- 23:21Speaker 6: to watch. But I again, I would be surprised if
- 23:25Speaker 6: that's what's going on here. I mean, I've seen some
- 23:27Speaker 6: people floating, well, maybe he failed Mike McDonald's conditioning test.
- 23:31Speaker 6: That would surprise me too, because I've again I've seen him.
- 23:35Speaker 6: I watched him run around and okay and stuff. Certainly
- 23:38Speaker 6: look like he was in great shape out there on
- 23:40Speaker 6: the practice field.
- 23:41Speaker 2: But that's yeah, I can't imagine that's the case, right, Like,
- 23:44Speaker 2: come on, that's the way or well.
- 23:47Speaker 5: I saw some people saying, well, could this be a
- 23:49Speaker 5: weight issue?
- 23:50Speaker 6: I'm like again, I literally was just standing next to
- 23:53Speaker 6: Nick Emon Worrie on thirteen talking to him.
- 23:56Speaker 5: He is an outstanding shape like I so I don't.
- 24:00Speaker 6: I don't know if it's just you know, hey, I
- 24:02Speaker 6: was working out and I had a slight little tweak.
- 24:04Speaker 2: In my hamstring or whatever. Like we've seen stuff like
- 24:07Speaker 2: this pop up before.
- 24:09Speaker 6: I just don't see any reason to be worried unless
- 24:11Speaker 6: somebody gives me a reason to be worried.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Corvers Smith, Corvers Smith joining a central cite spectrum. All right,
- 24:16Speaker 2: let's get to it. You run about the offensive line
- 24:18Speaker 2: a little bit, Sundell and Bradford. I mean, listen, we
- 24:20Speaker 2: know the tackles are here for a while. They're signed.
- 24:22Speaker 2: Gray's Abel is signed as a second year player, coming
- 24:25Speaker 2: in at left guard. Sundale took over that center position
- 24:28Speaker 2: last year, kind of grabbed it by the throat and
- 24:29Speaker 2: just took it over. Bradford for whatever. People we all
- 24:33Speaker 2: want to see this happen. Like everyone's like, I'll get
- 24:35Speaker 2: rid of Bradford. To get rid of Bradford, John Betton
- 24:37Speaker 2: must they must like him enough, because ain't nobody able
- 24:39Speaker 2: to plan him yet. Do we have the fewer amount
- 24:41Speaker 2: of the fewest amount of questions of the offensive line
- 24:43Speaker 2: for this team that we've had in maybe a decade
- 24:46Speaker 2: and a half.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:48Speaker 5: I mean, I think I floated this out yesterday.
- 24:51Speaker 2: I think that this is the best.
- 24:53Speaker 6: Offensive line situation that the Seahawks have had since the
- 24:58Speaker 6: end of Walter Jones's career. Like, I look at what
- 25:01Speaker 6: they've got here. Not only do you have continuity, you've
- 25:05Speaker 6: got youth. All five of these starters are twenty seven
- 25:08Speaker 6: and under. Like, it's a young group that's still getting better.
- 25:13Speaker 6: You've got the right coach now to coach these guys up.
- 25:17Speaker 6: You have a two guys in Sun Down Zabel, who
- 25:20Speaker 6: already had a build in relationship playing a ton of
- 25:23Speaker 6: snaps together at North Dakota State.
- 25:26Speaker 5: Charles Cross and Zabel really hit it off last year.
- 25:29Speaker 6: Lucas has those knee issues that he was dealing with
- 25:32Speaker 6: behind him finally, thank goodness. I mean, I just, you know,
- 25:36Speaker 6: it's funny reading the comments on our articles on locked
- 25:40Speaker 6: on podcasts, Like there's a lot of fans like, I
- 25:42Speaker 6: don't know what to do with myself because I'm used
- 25:44Speaker 6: to complaining about the offensive line. I just I don't
- 25:48Speaker 6: know what to do with myself because I'm actually, like
- 25:50Speaker 6: really excited about the offensive line and they should they
- 25:54Speaker 6: should be, like they should be this. I think this
- 25:57Speaker 6: group has the potential to be a top five offensive
- 26:01Speaker 6: line in the National Football League this year.
- 26:03Speaker 2: I think it can be that good.
- 26:06Speaker 7: Wow.
- 26:07Speaker 2: You know, I was just thicking back when when I'm
- 26:11Speaker 2: my buddy Steve Palozola is still working at at Pro
- 26:13Speaker 2: Football Focus, and we going back probably eight nine years
- 26:18Speaker 2: when Steve was there up until the last two years
- 26:20Speaker 2: when we went to the thirty thirteam. Every year I'd
- 26:24Speaker 2: have to have him on and I have to bust
- 26:25Speaker 2: his chops. I'm like, dude, seriously, like why the seat
- 26:28Speaker 2: is it really the thirty first offensive line, thirty second
- 26:30Speaker 2: offensive line, thirty whatever?
- 26:32Speaker 3: Right?
- 26:32Speaker 2: Like we always I always go down that road with
- 26:34Speaker 2: him all the time and he's like, yeah, I mean
- 26:35Speaker 2: everything tells us that it's that this is unchartered territory.
- 26:40Speaker 2: What is the question? Is the biggest question going into camp?
- 26:44Speaker 2: Just right guard? And is there anybody that's going to
- 26:46Speaker 2: supplant Anthony Bradford And I don't.
- 26:51Speaker 5: Even know that I would go that far.
- 26:53Speaker 6: I think he's the biggest question mark because he's the
- 26:56Speaker 6: only one that's not under contract beyond this year, so
- 27:00Speaker 6: that does create a little bit more curiosity. What is
- 27:04Speaker 6: bo Stevens the rookie. Where does he fit in? Is
- 27:07Speaker 6: Bryce Cable do got to potentially fit into this? Does
- 27:10Speaker 6: Christian Haynes finally show up as the players Seattle thought
- 27:13Speaker 6: he was going to be, you know, like they've got
- 27:15Speaker 6: a lot of intriguing young players at that guard position
- 27:20Speaker 6: to push Anthony Bradford, But nothing that I have seen
- 27:24Speaker 6: suggest that there's going to be any competition there, Like
- 27:27Speaker 6: this is the first time in Bradford's career that he's
- 27:29Speaker 6: coming in as the undisputed starter there.
- 27:32Speaker 5: And John Benton just loves this kid.
- 27:35Speaker 6: And I told this story a couple times recently, but
- 27:37Speaker 6: like watching Mini camp and you know those individual sleds
- 27:41Speaker 6: yea that they have out there, how heavy those are? Yeah,
- 27:45Speaker 6: I mean he he picked it up and almost flipped
- 27:49Speaker 6: it completely over the top, and you would have thought
- 27:52Speaker 6: that John Benton won a million dollars on the spot.
- 27:56Speaker 6: Like the way that he was reacting to this, like
- 27:58Speaker 6: he he just like John Benton was just loving it.
- 28:02Speaker 6: And he talking to Benton before the Super Bowl last year,
- 28:05Speaker 6: like he just loves this kid. And people in the building,
- 28:09Speaker 6: everybody I talked to Raves about Anthony Bradford, like the
- 28:12Speaker 6: fans might have a different viewpoint.
- 28:13Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, the people.
- 28:14Speaker 6: In the building love that guy and all he did
- 28:18Speaker 6: this offseason is go work with the well renowned line
- 28:22Speaker 6: coach Duke Meniweather to take his game to another level.
- 28:25Speaker 6: So if that's your biggest question mark, I think the
- 28:27Speaker 6: Seahawks have to be feeling pretty good.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:30Speaker 2: I think it's also worth noting that last season Gray's
- 28:34Speaker 2: Abel and Anthony Bradford and Abe Lucas, all those those
- 28:39Speaker 2: three guys started every game. Last season. Cross missed the
- 28:43Speaker 2: final three regular season games. Sundell missed four about a
- 28:47Speaker 2: little bit halfway through the season. He missed the four
- 28:49Speaker 2: and Old The Timmy came in and played in his place,
- 28:52Speaker 2: But those are the only games missed like those and
- 28:55Speaker 2: you know, Cross kind of fought through some stuff at
- 28:56Speaker 2: the end. I think my thing is Charles Cross stays healthy.
- 29:01Speaker 2: This team's in great shape. Staying healthy has been his
- 29:04Speaker 2: biggest issue. We talked about it a lot last year
- 29:07Speaker 2: with my buddy Gray Cosell. He really like two years ago.
- 29:10Speaker 2: I think we spent a lot of Fridays talking about
- 29:12Speaker 2: Charles Cross's struggles. Maybe they were health related. What have you?
- 29:15Speaker 2: Last season, I think every Friday that we had had
- 29:18Speaker 2: Cosell on He's like, here's what the tape says. Charles
- 29:21Speaker 2: Cross is really good, like really good at football. If
- 29:24Speaker 2: Charles Cross is healthy, how good can that left tackle be.
- 29:28Speaker 6: I think that this is the year that he leaps
- 29:31Speaker 6: into the All Pro and Pro Bowl discussion. I think
- 29:34Speaker 6: that he has been on the tusp of that. He
- 29:36Speaker 6: gave up just two sads last year.
- 29:39Speaker 2: We had to remember.
- 29:39Speaker 6: I mean, you know, rest in peace, Mike Beach, but
- 29:41Speaker 6: he came into the league way behind in run blocking because.
- 29:45Speaker 2: The system that he had, as did A as did
- 29:49Speaker 2: A Babe played for Mike two.
- 29:50Speaker 6: Yep, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think Abe was much
- 29:53Speaker 6: I think Abe was much more inclined to be able
- 29:57Speaker 6: to play that physical style when he came into the
- 29:59Speaker 6: league than what Charles Cross was, and so he was
- 30:03Speaker 6: able to hit the ground running more so. But I
- 30:05Speaker 6: feel like now, Charles Cross, I remember, he's still just
- 30:08Speaker 6: he's not twenty six yet, He's didn't turn twenty six
- 30:11Speaker 6: to and like he is still a really young player.
- 30:14Speaker 6: I think he is just now starting to finally come
- 30:16Speaker 6: into his own as an all around player, and he's
- 30:19Speaker 6: in the perfect scheme for his athleticism, what he does well.
- 30:22Speaker 2: So I think this is the year that that he really.
- 30:25Speaker 6: Takes off and he proves that he is that franchise
- 30:28Speaker 6: left tackle, and and it makes the contract Seattle ended
- 30:32Speaker 6: up giving him in the long run look like it's
- 30:35Speaker 6: a relative bargain.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it'll age well, right, it'll it
- 30:38Speaker 2: should age pretty well that one as well. Uh is
- 30:41Speaker 2: soundal gear center for the for the next five six years.
- 30:47Speaker 2: That's a really good question.
- 30:49Speaker 6: I it feels like, you know, first we got to
- 30:53Speaker 6: see what they do with Bradford, because again I I'm
- 30:56Speaker 6: not going to be surprised if they try to lock
- 30:58Speaker 6: him up because of the way people view him in
- 31:00Speaker 6: the building. But price tag could be a detriment to
- 31:04Speaker 6: that in terms of trying to make that happen. But
- 31:06Speaker 6: they do have the restricted free agent tender next year
- 31:09Speaker 6: with Sundal, so you have that extra year of somewhat
- 31:14Speaker 6: club control, so that gives him a little bit more
- 31:17Speaker 6: flexibility on that front. I will say this, if I
- 31:21Speaker 6: had to pick between the two, I would pick the
- 31:25Speaker 6: center overright guard almost every time, because I just think
- 31:27Speaker 6: it's a more important position, to be honest with you,
- 31:30Speaker 6: So if I can get Sundal locked up, and I
- 31:33Speaker 6: think he's the guy that's probably the one of the
- 31:36Speaker 6: two if I have to choose between one of them,
- 31:38Speaker 6: that I'm going to make happen.
- 31:40Speaker 5: And I thought that Sundeal.
- 31:42Speaker 6: I don't know what it was in the four weeks
- 31:44Speaker 6: he was out with that knee injury. When he came back,
- 31:46Speaker 6: like a light switch came on in terms of physicality,
- 31:50Speaker 6: Like I don't know if he was just angry because
- 31:52Speaker 6: he hadn't.
- 31:52Speaker 5: Played for four weeks or what it was.
- 31:54Speaker 6: But he, to me, was the catalyst of that run
- 31:58Speaker 6: game taken off the way it did late in the
- 32:00Speaker 6: regular season into the playoffs because he just was moving
- 32:03Speaker 6: guys the way that he wasn't before the injury, and
- 32:06Speaker 6: he'll have gave up one stack the entire year and
- 32:09Speaker 6: it happened to the playoffs. So I think there's a
- 32:11Speaker 6: lot of reason to be excited about him. I want
- 32:14Speaker 6: to see what he does with another full season as starter, though,
- 32:17Speaker 6: before I make an investment on a long term contract
- 32:20Speaker 6: with him.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Well, you wrote about Emmanuel Wilson. Let's do some running
- 32:25Speaker 2: back conversation tomorrow, shall we. I know that you hate
- 32:27Speaker 2: talking about running backs. It's not it's not something you like.
- 32:30Speaker 5: There is nothing in this world that.
- 32:35Speaker 2: God nobody likes. Nobody likes talking running backs more than Corbyn,
- 32:39Speaker 2: and nobody likes talking George Hallaney more than Corbyn. But
- 32:42Speaker 2: I want to talk about all the whole group tomorrow
- 32:44Speaker 2: because I think it's a I think it's a fun room,
- 32:47Speaker 2: and not just because their first round pick. The questions
- 32:50Speaker 2: surrounding sharbon A. Uh, you know, the Sharbony thing is
- 32:53Speaker 2: an interesting one because I I Hugh Millan brought up
- 32:55Speaker 2: something interesting earlier with Mike Bett, and I agree with him,
- 32:57Speaker 2: you know, like we're treating with Zach Charbone thing like
- 33:00Speaker 2: it's like the injury, like, oh, it's it's just it's
- 33:03Speaker 2: just a devastating, you know, blow to this roster. And
- 33:05Speaker 2: as you pointed out, it's not like he was firmly
- 33:08Speaker 2: entrenched as a true number one lead running back in
- 33:10Speaker 2: the NFL. They went out and drafted a guy they
- 33:12Speaker 2: feel that can be that guy. That's why you invest
- 33:14Speaker 2: a first round pick and a guy from Notre Dame
- 33:17Speaker 2: that was actually a backup in college because you think
- 33:19Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy, but the depth behind
- 33:22Speaker 2: him is going to be important. The way that offense runs.
- 33:25Speaker 2: We think, even though we don't know, we'll talk about
- 33:28Speaker 2: the running back room tomorrow, whether it be Price, Charbonay
- 33:31Speaker 2: Hallani Wilson. I still think Jacartia Wright's going to make
- 33:36Speaker 2: some people set stand up and go interesting right in
- 33:39Speaker 2: the if he's if he comes back healthy, Corbyn, I
- 33:42Speaker 2: think it, yeah, dark horse if he's healthy. And I
- 33:44Speaker 2: think Kenny McIntosh, if healthy, could be a dark horse
- 33:47Speaker 2: as well. So let's talk running back room tomorrow, shall we, sir?
- 33:52Speaker 5: I Hey, I'm never going to turn out a chance
- 33:54Speaker 5: to talk about running backs.
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- 35:25Speaker 2: You know the one thing with Eban Warrim. We'll go
- 35:27Speaker 2: back to that just for a second. He got hurt
- 35:30Speaker 2: game one of his NFL career against the San Francisco
- 35:36Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Played four snaps in that game and
- 35:40Speaker 2: then hurt his ankle. And then this is so funny
- 35:44Speaker 2: because like you win a football get you win a
- 35:46Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and some of the nuances around it, you know,
- 35:49Speaker 2: go away. Remember he got hurt in the Wednesday practice
- 35:52Speaker 2: before the Super Bowl. He he had a low ankle spring,
- 35:55Speaker 2: they said, and that's uh. Those practices, there's a a
- 36:00Speaker 2: beat reporter, a pool reporter, one reporter for each of
- 36:03Speaker 2: the two teams that's watching it. They had a pool
- 36:07Speaker 2: report from the Pro Football Writers of America said he
- 36:09Speaker 2: rolled an ankle while defending a past or in the practice.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Walked off, but he was in some discomfort mentally. He
- 36:17Speaker 2: was being comforted by teammates and coaches, like there was
- 36:20Speaker 2: a concern about him not playing in the Super Bowl.
- 36:23Speaker 2: Now that did not happen. He did obviously playing this.
- 36:26Speaker 2: He played seventy snaps in the Super Bowl, which is
- 36:27Speaker 2: almost ninety nine percent of the snaps in the Super Bowl.
- 36:30Speaker 2: But he did hear that ankle in the Super Bowl.
- 36:32Speaker 2: Greg Bell pointed out he's back on with us tomorrow
- 36:35Speaker 2: from the News Tribune that he even or told him
- 36:38Speaker 2: in the offseason that there was a lot of rehab
- 36:40Speaker 2: that he did on the ankle. So I guess that's
- 36:43Speaker 2: why maybe my concern is now amped up to a
- 36:45Speaker 2: yellow a little bit too, like what's ankle injuries are
- 36:48Speaker 2: no fun and not a doctor None of us are.
- 36:54Speaker 2: Might be a doctor listening, who knows, But when you
- 36:56Speaker 2: have those issues, they can be lingering and be chronic,
- 37:00Speaker 2: and they can anybody that's no you've probably out we
- 37:03Speaker 2: all known guys that have had it, so it's worth monitoring.
- 37:07Speaker 2: It's it's not Code red, but it's it's definitely not
- 37:10Speaker 2: a no brainer. I would I would disagree with Corbin
- 37:12Speaker 2: when he said it's kind of in the negative range.
- 37:14Speaker 2: I would disagree with that. I disagree with it beforehand,
- 37:16Speaker 2: and then I kind of went back and like, oh, yeah,
- 37:18Speaker 2: what about this. That's righty to get it hurt in
- 37:19Speaker 2: the super Bowl. It didn't appear as if there's any
- 37:23Speaker 2: issues in the mini camp, and I just think the
- 37:25Speaker 2: one thing, my one visual for mini camp, God, I
- 37:28Speaker 2: probably have a picture somewhere of it. I should probably
- 37:30Speaker 2: put I really cared about social media, I would post it.
- 37:32Speaker 2: I don't, but I do remember watching he was working
- 37:37Speaker 2: a lot in mini camp with the defensive linement on
- 37:44Speaker 2: pass rushing, like just like going through pass rut like
- 37:47Speaker 2: and using your hands and the swim moves and the
- 37:49Speaker 2: different things that those guys do. And now that's not
- 37:53Speaker 2: full speed, that's not you know, that's it's not like
- 37:57Speaker 2: you're going against an offensive lineman because you can't do
- 38:00Speaker 2: that necessarily like like you can here in training camp
- 38:03Speaker 2: starting on Saturday. But he was doing that, which is
- 38:06Speaker 2: to me a good sign. But what is going on
- 38:09Speaker 2: there is maybe it's not even the ankle. We'll find out.
- 38:12Speaker 2: I'm gonna I am very doubtful that Mike McDonald's gonna
- 38:15Speaker 2: get two in depth and tell us what's going on
- 38:16Speaker 2: after the first practice on Saturday. But you never know.
- 38:19Speaker 2: But I wouldn't go as far as to say it's
- 38:22Speaker 2: an absolute nothing burger. I would. I would definitely not
- 38:25Speaker 2: go that far. He's a very, very very important piece
- 38:29Speaker 2: to this football team. All right, to break come back,
- 38:30Speaker 2: we'll talk sh tuk a little about the marriage last night,
- 38:32Speaker 2: cal Raley and what he was able to do. Joe
- 38:35Speaker 2: Sheen at one twenty John lend at two o'clock four
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- 39:00Speaker 2: It was chill MS about five hundred for the first
- 39:02Speaker 2: time in two weeks, beating the Reds eight nothing last night,
- 39:04Speaker 2: Calroley six career Grand Slam. George Kirby gave up only
- 39:07Speaker 2: three instance six innings. MS move a half game ahead
- 39:10Speaker 2: of the Rangers atop the al West Chase Burns. Luis Castillo
- 39:13Speaker 2: take the mound tonight in the second game of the series. Randy,
- 39:15Speaker 2: you're unnoticed by the way tonight with Castillo on the mount.
- 39:19Speaker 2: No loafing out there in left field, right fella, No
- 39:22Speaker 2: more of that nonsense. Juio Rodriguez removed from the game
- 39:25Speaker 2: before the start of the sixth inning. Last night, Legg
- 39:28Speaker 2: got an infield hit, got hitting the ass basically and
- 39:31Speaker 2: then grabbed his hamstring. Dan Wilson saying, no, no big deal,
- 39:35Speaker 2: nothing to see here, and move along. We'll see if
- 39:37Speaker 2: we move along, Let's see Storm rookie flow. J Johnson
- 39:41Speaker 2: scored twenty six points. Storm lost to the Minnesota Lynx.
- 39:43Speaker 2: She missed a shot of the buzzer would have tied
- 39:45Speaker 2: the game. Links are twenty one and six, Storms six
- 39:47Speaker 2: and twenty two, bottom of the conference. Not good there.
- 39:51Speaker 2: How about our guy, Remember Jordan Brooks's former first round
- 39:55Speaker 2: pick here Seattle Seahawks. He signed a contract extension today
- 39:59Speaker 2: with the Miami Dolphins three years fifty one point three million,
- 40:02Speaker 2: thirty five of that is guaranteed.
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- 40:20Speaker 2: You know the keyword on a website, This hour's word
- 40:22Speaker 2: is credit is credit. So a real quick couple is
- 40:27Speaker 2: a real quick note on on Jordan Brooks as he
- 40:31Speaker 2: signs that nice extension thirty five mill Man. Good for him.
- 40:35Speaker 2: He was one of the guys first round pick by
- 40:39Speaker 2: Seattle in twenty twenty and that was that was an
- 40:44Speaker 2: odd draft he was picked. That was during COVID the
- 40:50Speaker 2: whole nine yards his rookie year during the COVID season,
- 40:52Speaker 2: and I'm kind of a tough go. He's always a
- 40:54Speaker 2: productive player for Seattle. The one thing I remember about
- 40:58Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks and this, I'm glad he got I'm getting
- 41:00Speaker 2: glad he's getting his due and listen, it took a
- 41:02Speaker 2: while to get to this point. The Seahawks went through
- 41:06Speaker 2: two other starting line inside linebackers, stack linebackers, what you
- 41:09Speaker 2: want to call him, before they picked up Ernest Jones
- 41:12Speaker 2: midway through the season a couple of years ago to
- 41:15Speaker 2: replace Jordan Brooks. Brooks was one of the guys that
- 41:18Speaker 2: was sideways when the stuff was happening in the locker
- 41:25Speaker 2: room after the final game of the twenty twenty three season,
- 41:29Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's last year. He was one of the guys
- 41:32Speaker 2: in the locker room in Arizona that I remember, like
- 41:34Speaker 2: when the guys are smoking cigars and kind of celebrating
- 41:37Speaker 2: the end of the year and all of that. He
- 41:40Speaker 2: was one of the dudes that was very unhappy, like
- 41:43Speaker 2: not happy with things, and at that point hadn't talked
- 41:45Speaker 2: to the Seahawks Y had about an extension. I remember asked.
- 41:47Speaker 2: I asked him after the game. We had a postgame
- 41:50Speaker 2: interview with him in the locker room, and I said, hey,
- 41:51Speaker 2: you know what's going on if you nothing's going on
- 41:54Speaker 2: contract wise, And as it turned out, that was because
- 41:57Speaker 2: they weren't bringing him back. But good for him getting
- 42:00Speaker 2: is due.
- 42:00Speaker 3: Man.
- 42:00Speaker 2: I was always a big fan of his. He was
- 42:01Speaker 2: as serious and still is as the day is long.
- 42:04Speaker 2: And that guy, it's like, when you want to that's
- 42:06Speaker 2: what you want your linebacker. Man, that dead dude is
- 42:08Speaker 2: he is special.
- 42:09Speaker 4: He still holds the most tackles for a linebacker.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's a stud man. He is a trout.
- 42:14Speaker 2: He's a stud. He's a studdy. Miami's locked up a
- 42:17Speaker 2: couple three guys kind of his core players in the
- 42:19Speaker 2: midst of a true rebuild with what they're doing right now,
- 42:22Speaker 2: so good for him. Good for him to get that
- 42:24Speaker 2: extension done as well. Seak Camp, by the way, starting
- 42:26Speaker 2: on Saturday, will be out there starting next Monday as well.
- 42:29Speaker 2: All right, Los Marin Arrows, Hey big win last night,
- 42:31Speaker 2: Marriner's win, Marrinors win, Mariners win a little wild game
- 42:36Speaker 2: last night. First of all, they it's so hard for
- 42:40Speaker 2: a TV crew to capture certain moments. And yesterday the
- 42:46Speaker 2: the Gino Swarz his first at bat was he let
- 42:51Speaker 2: off the second inning. I believe it was right. That
- 42:53Speaker 2: soun was a right, Yeah, second inning, I think he
- 42:55Speaker 2: let off. Yeah. So you going into the first you
- 42:59Speaker 2: go into a break, and you're kind of beholden to
- 43:02Speaker 2: the commercial world. So his introduction and the true kind
- 43:06Speaker 2: of feel on TV for Gino's return to Seattle was
- 43:10Speaker 2: really lost. Like they just they they just weren't able
- 43:12Speaker 2: to capture that live, like like I think we wanted to.
- 43:15Speaker 2: I'm like, Dan, did I miss that? I just shuttle
- 43:17Speaker 2: back and it's like it was just kind of camera shots.
- 43:19Speaker 2: They're scrambled to try to get it live because they're
- 43:21Speaker 2: coming out of a commercial. And it's not anybody's fault, it's
- 43:24Speaker 2: just the way TV production is.
- 43:26Speaker 3: You know.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Curs Wols is a great director. They do a great
- 43:28Speaker 2: job with it. It just they didn't capture it. I'm like, God,
- 43:31Speaker 2: that's a bummer because I wanted to really see what
- 43:33Speaker 2: it was like postgame show. They showed it again. Good
- 43:36Speaker 2: for them, Brad and the crew, they showed it again.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Really cool seeing Geno be welcome back to Seattle. I
- 43:44Speaker 2: think Goldie mentioned it on the broadcast. You maybe our mendment,
- 43:48Speaker 2: Brad actually postgame one of the two and they said,
- 43:51Speaker 2: and it's very true. One of the biggest hits and
- 43:56Speaker 2: moments in baseball history in Seattle was that home run
- 44:01Speaker 2: he hit in the playoffs last year. No doubt like
- 44:03Speaker 2: it was and just you kind of go back, maybe
- 44:09Speaker 2: maybe the biggest one in that building because Edgar's double
- 44:13Speaker 2: down the left field line was obviously the kingdom. I
- 44:16Speaker 2: know Cal clinch the playoff berth a few years ago,
- 44:19Speaker 2: but they were kind of a foregone conclusion, right, wasn't
- 44:22Speaker 2: the last game of the year. It was great. It
- 44:24Speaker 2: was a moment we're talking about, key moment in the playoffs.
- 44:29Speaker 2: Was a Game five just huge, absolutely massive, and for
- 44:35Speaker 2: Gino to do that and then get welcome back as
- 44:37Speaker 2: he did last night, it looked like everyone was standing
- 44:40Speaker 2: the love that he had. He talked about it before
- 44:43Speaker 2: the game. I know, Softy of those guys played some
- 44:45Speaker 2: sound yesterday. I just Gino's one of those players that
- 44:50Speaker 2: maybe the numbers weren't eye popping, the moment was, but
- 44:55Speaker 2: his impact was really felt. I think at times more
- 44:57Speaker 2: than anything. In the clubhouse. I remember going there. I've
- 45:00Speaker 2: told the story a number of times. A few years ago.
- 45:02Speaker 2: They were kind of in and I think it was
- 45:03Speaker 2: the year they went to playoffs. In fact, it was
- 45:06Speaker 2: they were scuffling along and they were playing the third
- 45:12Speaker 2: game of a series. I believe it was Houston and
- 45:14Speaker 2: just and he was scuffling and Scott Servis told the
- 45:18Speaker 2: story about in the postgame about how he went up
- 45:21Speaker 2: to Gino before the game and said, hey, I need
- 45:23Speaker 2: you to get these guys going, like I need you.
- 45:25Speaker 2: I know you're not playing well either, but I need
- 45:27Speaker 2: you to put that aside and get these guys going.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Very selfish player did it. They won that game, they
- 45:32Speaker 2: got on a roll. Rest is history, and I stuck around.
- 45:36Speaker 2: I was working for Fox thirteen at the time. We
- 45:37Speaker 2: stuck around and we were doing I was doing the
- 45:39Speaker 2: Sports the late show that night at ten thirty, and
- 45:41Speaker 2: I said, we gotta wait for Geno. Clubhouse was empty.
- 45:44Speaker 2: He comes out and not that he was stiff in anybody.
- 45:46Speaker 2: He was just getting some treatment. Comes out couldn't have
- 45:48Speaker 2: been more cordial. And I asked him about it and
- 45:50Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, I mean, this is Scott's my guy.
- 45:52Speaker 2: I just which is interesting because Service apparently lost the
- 45:56Speaker 2: clubhouse somewhere. But he talked about how important it was
- 46:00Speaker 2: for him to be that leader for this baseball team
- 46:03Speaker 2: when they brought him back last year after he had
- 46:06Speaker 2: left and gone to Arizona. It was important because maybe
- 46:08Speaker 2: his value was elsewhere, and I think the fans realized
- 46:10Speaker 2: that certainly saw the love that Cal gave him as well.
- 46:13Speaker 2: Very just a very very cool moment for Gino Suarez
- 46:15Speaker 2: last night. Didn't have the night he wanted. The Reds
- 46:18Speaker 2: get shut out. They're a bad baseball team. They're awful defensively.
- 46:22Speaker 2: You could blame Bill Miller, the second base umpire, for
- 46:24Speaker 2: being a big dude all you want, and poor Bill
- 46:28Speaker 2: Bill is I did a story on him his first
- 46:33Speaker 2: year umping in pro baseball. I did a story for
- 46:35Speaker 2: Bruce King voice did but I produced the story for him.
- 46:38Speaker 2: He was a Northwest League umpire for the Everett Giants,
- 46:41Speaker 2: not the Aqua Sox. The Everett Giants at the time,
- 46:44Speaker 2: and he was a two man crew in the old
- 46:45Speaker 2: Northwest League short season ball and he was working his
- 46:48Speaker 2: way up and Bill Miller, I want to say, he's
- 46:51Speaker 2: the same age as I am. I'm sixty one. I'm
- 46:53Speaker 2: pretty sure he's the same age. Bill, like me, put
- 46:56Speaker 2: on a few pounds over the years. Bill getting chirped
- 46:59Speaker 2: out by a by turd Ferguson there like, dude, don't Yes,
- 47:05Speaker 2: maybe he was in the way umpire's part of the field.
- 47:08Speaker 2: That's a you problem. That's your infielder's problem.
- 47:11Speaker 7: Day.
- 47:12Speaker 2: La Cruz was awful yesterday at shortstop. I had a
- 47:14Speaker 2: double clutch, double clutch, pump pump pump. Guy's getting running
- 47:17Speaker 2: leg and stuff out, hitting Hulio on the ass, all
- 47:19Speaker 2: these things. That's not his fault, but Bill, Bill's been
- 47:22Speaker 2: around for a while. Bill may need to think about
- 47:24Speaker 2: retiring at some point. You may need to kind of
- 47:27Speaker 2: pack it in. My man. I love the guy. I
- 47:30Speaker 2: just I've got that story. I got a final way
- 47:32Speaker 2: to digitize that and post it because it's a really
- 47:33Speaker 2: cool story. He's a good dude and he's getting chirped out.
- 47:36Speaker 2: He just sat there and took it. He knew like
- 47:38Speaker 2: he could have run the guy. He could have like,
- 47:40Speaker 2: you know, when the words being used, he could have
- 47:42Speaker 2: run him. He didn't. At the end of the day,
- 47:44Speaker 2: you're down three noth and then all of a sudden,
- 47:46Speaker 2: you want a grove a pitch to Cal. The disrespect
- 47:49Speaker 2: to Cal by walking you guy to get to Cal
- 47:51Speaker 2: sixty one home runs Cal first of all, probably the
- 47:54Speaker 2: right move, Yeah, probably the right move at this moment. Yeah,
- 47:58Speaker 2: at this moment in time, probably the right move. And
- 48:02Speaker 2: then you want to throw a batting patch, batting practice, curveball.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Let's wait and see what the next five ten games brings.
- 48:12Speaker 2: But when he had gone what ten straight games without
- 48:15Speaker 2: a home run? Had Cal Rawley and the extra base
- 48:19Speaker 2: hits have not been there? The slugging percentage is abysmal
- 48:22Speaker 2: this season. It does jump up over three hundred. I
- 48:26Speaker 2: think it was below three hundred before last night, before
- 48:28Speaker 2: the Grand Slam, but you're still hitting one sixty three.
- 48:32Speaker 2: He was down to one fifty nine. I believe it
- 48:34Speaker 2: was before that Grand Slam last night. Oh God, can
- 48:38Speaker 2: that be the catalyst? I don't know, you don't know,
- 48:41Speaker 2: none of us know. But I didn't care about going
- 48:45Speaker 2: from a three run lead to a seven run lead.
- 48:48Speaker 2: I cared about, is that what gets him going? The
- 48:52Speaker 2: only weird thing I thought about? And I texted someone
- 48:55Speaker 2: who covers the team daily in the print media, and
- 49:00Speaker 2: not Davish, but it was somebody else, and I said,
- 49:02Speaker 2: what his postgame demeanor and really all year has been
- 49:07Speaker 2: interesting and I know he doesn't like talking about himself.
- 49:11Speaker 2: I get that. I was told by this person, maybe
- 49:16Speaker 2: someone will write, maybe we'll write about this that the
- 49:20Speaker 2: Friday night game against the Giants, and how that game went,
- 49:27Speaker 2: how what the what the attitude and kind of the
- 49:30Speaker 2: jovial whatever we're getting her ask kick coming out of
- 49:32Speaker 2: the break feeling was definitely addressed by not just a man,
- 49:40Speaker 2: but by Cal and like he's kind of not just
- 49:45Speaker 2: frustrated with his own game, but fed up by the
- 49:47Speaker 2: team itself. Because I watched him last night, I'm like,
- 49:50Speaker 2: come on, Cal, like, let's let's let's like, let's let's
- 49:53Speaker 2: give us more than that. Like you just kind of
- 49:55Speaker 2: came across as I don't want to say he came
- 49:57Speaker 2: across as unlikable. He kind of came across as mug.
- 50:01Speaker 2: That's not who you should be. Now, I know he
- 50:03Speaker 2: doesn't like certain questions from certain people postgame on live broadcast,
- 50:08Speaker 2: but he just didn't come across well and I was
- 50:11Speaker 2: told no, he's he's kind of at the point of
- 50:13Speaker 2: being just done and maybe a pissed off cal Rawley,
- 50:18Speaker 2: not just because he's pissed off at getting the disrespect
- 50:21Speaker 2: of having a guy walk in front, but just the
- 50:23Speaker 2: dislike just pissed off because he's not playing well, but
- 50:27Speaker 2: he knows his team has to play better as well, Like,
- 50:30Speaker 2: let's get going, time to start cranking it up. Let's
- 50:32Speaker 2: see if that truly is a catalyst. Let's see if
- 50:35Speaker 2: that truly is a moment that gives this team a
- 50:38Speaker 2: jump start for the rest of the season, because right now,
- 50:43Speaker 2: right now, it is still very very much up in doubt,
- 50:47Speaker 2: not just him but the team. He's still hitting one
- 50:50Speaker 2: sixty three, he's still got a two sixty six on
- 50:51Speaker 2: base percentag, which actually went down as of last night
- 50:54Speaker 2: and went down. His slugging percentage went up because of
- 50:57Speaker 2: the home run. His ops went up a little bit
- 51:01Speaker 2: as well. But this is a guy, this is a
- 51:05Speaker 2: guy that they have to have be better. He's got
- 51:08Speaker 2: to be better. He was one for five last night
- 51:10Speaker 2: with two strikeouts. Will the home run be the catalyst
- 51:14Speaker 2: to get him going the rest of the year. We'll
- 51:15Speaker 2: find out all right. Joshi and Joshian Newsletter joined us.
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- 52:41Speaker 1: Now here's Ian with our weekly baseball fix from Joshian.
- 52:47Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a good bat. It comes with the day off.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Last week we were off at this time we had
- 52:52Speaker 2: a World Cup semi final match being played. We were
- 52:55Speaker 2: carrying that here on kjar across the iHeart Network. It
- 52:59Speaker 2: meant that I got a little bonus day off on
- 53:01Speaker 2: a Tuesday, But it also meant I didn't didn't get
- 53:03Speaker 2: a chance to talk to my friend Joe Shean. So
- 53:06Speaker 2: here we are two weeks later, last conversation. He joins
- 53:08Speaker 2: us right now on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. I know
- 53:11Speaker 2: he dearly missed having our conversation last week, but thanks
- 53:15Speaker 2: for rejoining us today, sir, How are.
- 53:16Speaker 9: You you know? I thought I didn't realize it was
- 53:19Speaker 9: because of the World Cup. I thought maybe it was
- 53:21Speaker 9: just All Star week, he would, Yeah, I understand Andrews
- 53:25Speaker 9: is a national treasure.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Now Andrews now. Travis Moger's filling in today. Is Andrews
- 53:31Speaker 2: a national treasure? He's a national host, I guess in
- 53:33Speaker 2: a sense, right, Trav. Sure, yeah, Joe, he's a big deal.
- 53:39Speaker 2: He's a really really big deal. So now he's taking
- 53:41Speaker 2: a week off. How are you, my friend? How are things?
- 53:45Speaker 9: It's an interesting day here, you know, just the tornado watches,
- 53:51Speaker 9: last flood watches my puling and noise. I'd never heard
- 53:54Speaker 9: it dakes before to let me know that I might
- 53:55Speaker 9: floating away. So an interesting day, all up and down
- 53:58Speaker 9: the Eastern Sea.
- 53:59Speaker 2: God, no good, no good, All right, let me let's
- 54:02Speaker 2: talk all start game real fast. First. I'll get to
- 54:04Speaker 2: the Mariners and the rest of baseball in a second.
- 54:07Speaker 2: I'll be very honest with you. I had it on
- 54:09Speaker 2: his background noise the day before the home run derby.
- 54:13Speaker 2: This is old man he in speaking. I was like,
- 54:15Speaker 2: where the hell is it?
- 54:16Speaker 3: Oh.
- 54:16Speaker 2: By the time I found out it was on Netflix,
- 54:18Speaker 2: I just it was over. It didn't really care anyway.
- 54:21Speaker 2: Does baseball, like a lot of other sports, have an
- 54:23Speaker 2: All Star problem in terms of the events the games,
- 54:27Speaker 2: et cetera, and what are those problems?
- 54:30Speaker 9: Well, the basic problem is an All Star game can't
- 54:32Speaker 9: be what it was. You know, you guys like us
- 54:34Speaker 9: from growing up. There's no special list seeing all the
- 54:37Speaker 9: best the same on the same court or field, rice
- 54:41Speaker 9: or whatever. Now you don't have in baseball and interleague
- 54:44Speaker 9: rivalry anymore. They're just conferences. It's just one big MLB.
- 54:49Speaker 9: All of the things that made baseball's All Star Game
- 54:52Speaker 9: and really all of the All Star games special, simply
- 54:54Speaker 9: don't exist in there when you can go online and
- 54:56Speaker 9: watch any want do anything. So you know, the leagues
- 55:01Speaker 9: wrestle with the probably in the NBA All Star Game
- 55:03Speaker 9: got out of control, and the NHL wan too. The
- 55:05Speaker 9: Pro Bowl doesn't even exist anymore. Carnival games and albeit
- 55:09Speaker 9: is the closest is the one that still looks the
- 55:10Speaker 9: closest to a baseball game, but probably are there is
- 55:13Speaker 9: that when you tell the best pictures in the world
- 55:15Speaker 9: to go out and throw one inning, you get a
- 55:17Speaker 9: game that looks like last week. A strikeout rate, one
- 55:20Speaker 9: extra base hit. It's just really unbalanced. And you know
- 55:23Speaker 9: last year was an exception. Last year was next before
- 55:25Speaker 9: the home run nonsense. Most All Star game now or
- 55:29Speaker 9: four three three two, and just the pictures dominate the game.
- 55:32Speaker 9: So there's just nothing you start out with. The All
- 55:37Speaker 9: Star Game can't be as special as it was. You know,
- 55:40Speaker 9: seventy Parker making I was a kingdom. You can never
- 55:45Speaker 9: be that again because the league is not actually being
- 55:50Speaker 9: began to see it on the same field because you
- 55:52Speaker 9: see it in op.
- 55:58Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and we're gonna put Joe on
- 56:00Speaker 2: hold us for a second. His phone's breaking up a
- 56:01Speaker 2: little bit. You mentioned the weather back there. Well, well,
- 56:03Speaker 2: Travi's gonna give them a call back here in a
- 56:04Speaker 2: second and we'll get him back on here. Joe Shean
- 56:06Speaker 2: joining us uh from the Joe Shean newsletter, and we'll
- 56:10Speaker 2: reset that just so we get a little bit better
- 56:12Speaker 2: uh connection on our phones. It also could be our
- 56:14Speaker 2: end because we had the power issues earlier today. Who knows,
- 56:18Speaker 2: but we'll get to that in a second. We can
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- 56:39Speaker 2: five hundred, and we're getting Joe back on here and
- 56:42Speaker 2: hopefully get a little better connection today too. Like I said,
- 56:44Speaker 2: it might be his end, might be our end, could
- 56:46Speaker 2: be either end. Who knows who. We're always curious about
- 56:49Speaker 2: how that stuff works. I think that, yeah, and we'll
- 56:53Speaker 2: get Joe SUTs on the on the rest of the
- 56:54Speaker 2: Ulstar games. Second, it just it feels like like most
- 56:58Speaker 2: every All Star game is kind of has kind of
- 57:01Speaker 2: jumped the shark a little bit almost every sport it has,
- 57:04Speaker 2: and it used to be such a big deal for
- 57:06Speaker 2: all of us. Joe's back with us? Is he back
- 57:08Speaker 2: with this? Okay, Joe's back with us? Yeah, Joe. I
- 57:10Speaker 2: think one of the things that it might be our
- 57:11Speaker 2: situation here too. We've had a power outage a couple
- 57:13Speaker 2: times today. When we were growing up, doesn't matter what
- 57:18Speaker 2: I say. You know, in the last twenty thirty years,
- 57:21Speaker 2: All Star Games were so cool in every sport, and
- 57:24Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it's just because we see so
- 57:26Speaker 2: many games. You can see any game in any sport
- 57:28Speaker 2: on TV all the time. It just feels like they've
- 57:29Speaker 2: all kind of lost their luster.
- 57:32Speaker 9: Right, And like I say, it goes to the fact
- 57:33Speaker 9: that you don't have in baseball, certainly the jil league
- 57:36Speaker 9: robery and the other sport's just there's not an intensity
- 57:39Speaker 9: to it anymore. I can even remember, you know, even
- 57:41Speaker 9: in like the nineties, you know, there were NBA All
- 57:43Speaker 9: Star Games where yeah, they diddle around for forty two minutes,
- 57:47Speaker 9: but in the last six minutes of the game, you
- 57:49Speaker 9: had the ten best basketball players in the world going
- 57:51Speaker 9: after each other. So you just you can't replicate that anymore.
- 57:56Speaker 9: And I've said, you know, I would do away with
- 57:58Speaker 9: the All Star Game. I just so, I just think
- 58:00Speaker 9: it's these are all anachronisms. You don't need them. In
- 58:03Speaker 9: you know, the year twenty twenty six, I would use
- 58:06Speaker 9: every four years the All Star break to play the
- 58:09Speaker 9: last either Final eight or Final four of the World
- 58:11Speaker 9: Baseball Classic. Yeah, I think that would draw so many odds.
- 58:15Speaker 5: Over four years.
- 58:16Speaker 2: So good.
- 58:17Speaker 9: Think about how good? Think about how good the knockout
- 58:20Speaker 9: rounds have been in the WBC. And they're happening in
- 58:23Speaker 9: March when we're all watching college basketball. Dude, I'm watching
- 58:25Speaker 9: college basketball, right, and I think if you put and
- 58:28Speaker 9: it's complicated, and you're gonna have the same issues with
- 58:31Speaker 9: guys not wanting their guys to pitch that We had
- 58:33Speaker 9: something like six of the top ten NL pitchers didn't
- 58:36Speaker 9: pitch in that game last week, and you know, or
- 58:38Speaker 9: maybe it was six of the top ten overall with
- 58:40Speaker 9: Schuler not pitching and a couple of other guys. You'd
- 58:42Speaker 9: run some of that, but maybe not as much if
- 58:45Speaker 9: it was the WBC instead of an All Star game.
- 58:47Speaker 9: So it's not the easiest thing in the world to do.
- 58:50Speaker 9: You've got to get NTD on board with stopping their
- 58:52Speaker 9: seeds and to come over here. But I just think
- 58:55Speaker 9: that I would take a WBC every four years as
- 58:59Speaker 9: opposed to what getting now in MLB with the All
- 59:01Speaker 9: Star Game, which just there's just no juice to it.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Your idea of playing what would be a Final four
- 59:07Speaker 2: basically like a Final four right for like maybe ten
- 59:10Speaker 2: days or however, well it would be uh.
- 59:12Speaker 9: Well it would probably know, just just get to play
- 59:15Speaker 9: down to eight in March and then you play the quarters,
- 59:17Speaker 9: the semis and.
- 59:18Speaker 2: The final boom perfect one game just like a college
- 59:20Speaker 2: World Series type of thing. At that point, I there's
- 59:23Speaker 2: a there's a precedent for that, and god, it was
- 59:26Speaker 2: so good a year ago, year and a half ago
- 59:28Speaker 2: now when the NHL did that Four Nations tournament and
- 59:32Speaker 2: it was you know, the the US and Canada, Sweden
- 59:35Speaker 2: and Finland or I think it's the four teams the
- 59:37Speaker 2: uh But that ended up a everyone wanted to play
- 59:41Speaker 2: in it. It was in the middle of the season,
- 59:43Speaker 2: but yet dudes were dropping the gloves. They were playing
- 59:45Speaker 2: for their country. There was nobody saying there's nobody tapped out,
- 59:48Speaker 2: nobody said no. They all played and they did that
- 59:51Speaker 2: in lieu of the All Star Game. This year we
- 59:54Speaker 2: had the Olympics, so there was no you know, nothing
- 59:56Speaker 2: like that for hockey. Next year they're going back to
- 59:58Speaker 2: All Star Game and everyone's like, who care, let's go
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: back to the four Nations. Your idea is very four
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: nations like it works, Like it works. If you want
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: to promote your sport best on best, that's how you do.
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: It, right, this long.
- 1:00:13Speaker 9: Petition back to the Canada Cup and of course all
- 1:00:16Speaker 9: the great stories that have come out of there, you know, okay,
- 1:00:20Speaker 9: that develops the interest.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: Also, look, no.
- 1:00:25Speaker 9: Well has with pitching pictures complicated because you're protecting their
- 1:00:31Speaker 9: arms and on schedule. It's easier than of sports international
- 1:00:37Speaker 9: competition because you don't have that. I do believe has
- 1:00:42Speaker 9: become the teams and will be pictures which find because
- 1:00:45Speaker 9: if you think about it, you set it up the
- 1:00:47Speaker 9: way I want to set it. Say it's the quarter
- 1:00:50Speaker 9: days and Wednesday the Semison Championship, onon. We're talking about
- 1:00:55Speaker 9: one start for all of these guys, be making one
- 1:01:00Speaker 9: start any of these pictures, and I think that would
- 1:01:02Speaker 9: be I think then I think you for me, Oh,
- 1:01:07Speaker 9: Jacob is arrassed, Zach Eric Scuoble, I think all those
- 1:01:11Speaker 9: one start this.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: Bracket Joshi and Joni Jochian newsletter here on the Beacon
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: Plumbing hotline. Joel on those lines, I know you brief
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: briefly wrote about this and said, quote, I don't want
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: to get too far into it, but I do want
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: to ask you about because I think it kind of
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: flew under the radar screen. Evan Drelich from MLB did
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: report that there is a proposal to suspend players who
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: are picked to play in the Olympics in twenty twenty
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: eight and for no reason. No reasons will probably be
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: injuries that they don't want to play for their countries
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: in the Olympics for that time, and there would be
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: a suspension then for those players for twenty five days
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: before after what have you if they did not participate
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: in the Olympics, if they were picked. It feels like
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: it's part of the collective bargaining and that kind of
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: comes into play, and there's a lot of different layers
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: along the way. But hopefully they're not after you that
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: sire in the background, but just New York of course exactly.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: But I thought that was interesting because I feel like
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: this is yet another non starter in the CBA negotiations.
- 1:02:20Speaker 9: It goes from a lot of the MLB proposals so far,
- 1:02:22Speaker 9: which just they're not leaving a lot of middle ground.
- 1:02:25Speaker 9: They're proposing things and there's just either accept this or not.
- 1:02:28Speaker 9: There's not a lot of room for negotiation. And this
- 1:02:30Speaker 9: was another one, I mean, kind of came out of
- 1:02:31Speaker 9: the blue. MLB I think would like to and I
- 1:02:35Speaker 9: don't completely understand it. They seem to really want to
- 1:02:37Speaker 9: be involved with the Olympics. They want to make this
- 1:02:39Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight tournament, but there's no future to it.
- 1:02:43Speaker 9: The twenty thirty two Olympics are going to be in
- 1:02:45Speaker 9: July and Australia and you just can't shut down the
- 1:02:48Speaker 9: baseball season for that long. Plus this tournament in la
- 1:02:51Speaker 9: is only going to be six teams and twelve total games,
- 1:02:54Speaker 9: so it's not like it's going to make that big.
- 1:02:57Speaker 9: But MLB seems determined to, you know, get impressed. The
- 1:03:00Speaker 9: IOC went Frankly, the IOC has never accepted baseball. If
- 1:03:03Speaker 9: you go through the history of IOC and baseball, baseball
- 1:03:05Speaker 9: has been a full metal sport eight times in Olympics,
- 1:03:09Speaker 9: he's been whatever they call it, experimental score and a
- 1:03:12Speaker 9: transition sport whatever. But they've never embraced baseball. And I
- 1:03:15Speaker 9: think MLLB is it because the IOC never embraced baseball.
- 1:03:20Speaker 9: MLB created the W and they nurtured it for twenty
- 1:03:24Speaker 9: years through a global pandemic, and now they have this
- 1:03:26Speaker 9: really great international tournament with twenty teams long for those
- 1:03:30Speaker 9: it forty four games last time around, and people like
- 1:03:33Speaker 9: it and people and it's poorly timed. Like I say,
- 1:03:36Speaker 9: if you put partner that we'll be decided over its
- 1:03:43Speaker 9: us have to play and you're gonna be You're gonna
- 1:03:45Speaker 9: mess feature. Somebody doesn't sick Division games well I'd be
- 1:03:50Speaker 9: like vision Games. Come on, You're not gonna spend a
- 1:03:55Speaker 9: guy for extra playing all of the game. That's an
- 1:03:58Speaker 9: utterly ridiculous position.
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: She enjoying us Joshian Newsletter. All right, let's get to
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: our local team here. We spent a lot of time
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: yesterday on a lot of our shows, ironically enough, talking
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: about the struggles of one cal Raleigh catcher. You might
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: have heard of him for the Mariners. And he goes out,
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: he hits a grand slam last night after having a
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: get intent Kenzona. I think it was intentionally walked before
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: him hits a grand slam, puts the game out of reach.
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: It was a three and a half game, makes it
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: seven nothing against Cincinnati, and and you know the thought, wow,
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: it's all well now he was still one for five
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: with two strikeouts last night. So there is there is that,
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: you know, going on the cal Rawley situation, whether it's
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: barrel ray, some of the stuff, some of the numbers
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: that you can look at and things like that. There's
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: a lot of different metrics to kind of consider and
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: look at along the way. Well, time will tell Joe
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: whether or not last night, and that one swing of
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: the bat can help him in a very cerebral game
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: where confidence means everything. But what is your read on
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: cal Raleigh, Because boy, this team certainly need him. They
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: don't need him to hit this is everyone says, this
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: is kind of goofy. We're at this point where it's
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: almost nausey. We don't need even to hit sixty one,
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: no doubt. Well he ain't gonna hit sixty one, but
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: they still need him to be a force in the lineup.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: I wonder if one swing in the back can help
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: or not. TRAYV go ahead and try. Let's let's put
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: him on hole to try to get him. Let's let's
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: we'll try one more time to read out Joe here
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: in just a second. So try's gonna do that real quick.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: That's such a great question by me, long winded. Maybe
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: that's why he dropped off. He's like, I don't want
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: to listen to for nest talk anymore. But that's I
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: do want to get Joe SATs. We'll try one more time,
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: so even get the phone to work a little bit
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: more oh with him, So give me a thumbs up
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: when you get him back on, and we'll ask him
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: about cal Rawley before we wrap things up. With Joe
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: she and Joshian newsletter Joshian dot com is where you
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: can find that again, brought to you by our friends
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: at Northwest Handling Systems. He had gone ten straight games,
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: by the way, without a home run. He last when
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: he hit was it's interesting. God, both games big blowouts. Eleven.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Nothing is wrong, all right, Joe, I was just long
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: winted question by me. We'll try one more time. Phones
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: are kind of goofy today, just cal Rawley. Can one
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: swing of the bat change what this guy is as trajectory?
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: Do you think.
- 1:06:07Speaker 9: I didn't say that.
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: I can't.
- 1:06:10Speaker 9: I can't. He's not the guy who I'm pulled fly ball?
- 1:06:20Speaker 9: Uh So I don't want they said, say, oh, which
- 1:06:24Speaker 9: is all mental pointed out earlier, you know, between playing
- 1:06:30Speaker 9: ter playing deep into October and then coming back to
- 1:06:33Speaker 9: the WBC. This year to me just seemed like he
- 1:06:35Speaker 9: was exhausted.
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: Well since coming.
- 1:06:38Speaker 9: He still has loved, you know, maybe being one of
- 1:06:42Speaker 9: those years rally for the rest of his career, but
- 1:06:46Speaker 9: it may not gonna get back to that two thirty.
- 1:06:52Speaker 9: Maybe he's gonna.
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna, We're gonna, unfortunately just not work
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: into the cell phones are are giving us issues that happens,
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: that happens along the way. I kind of putting what
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: Joe said together. Yeah, we can't get into his head,
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: and it's bad sports radio. It's bad. We have to
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: wait and see. Doesn't always sound good. It's not what
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: you want to hear, but you gotta wait and see.
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: And you know, Joe insinuated this there. I think it
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: was an interesting point. People brought this up a lot,
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: the overuse of cal Raley last year. He played all
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: but two games when you include the pinch hitting and
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: the dhing. He played all but two games last season
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: in the regular season in the most demanding position in sports.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: And I think it was brought up yesterday. And I
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: don't know who it was yesterday that brought this. Oh,
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: I think it was Chris Crawford brought it up. There's
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: actually we should have known that it was Chris. Chris
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: brought it up yesterday. Imagine a hockey goalie and you
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: produce all the hockey games. Imes if Joey Decord played
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: seventy of eighty two games, and there's no way. And
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: guys used to do that, and players in baseball used
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: to do that. Cal Rawley is the iron man that
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: that record will hard to say definitively never be broken,
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: but probably very unlikely it'll ever be broken, just because
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: the way things are nowadays. Athletes are different, the game
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: is different, the game's more demanding what Cal had, And
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: I think the part of the equation with cal Rawley is,
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: you know, with today's baseball compared to back then, there's
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: so much more in terms of the scouting, the preparation,
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: the pre game. Okay, we're going through this. Here's what
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: all these guys want to do. It used to be like, yeah,
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: we don't think the the number three hitter can hit
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: a curveball. Okay, okay, we'll put down two. That's a curveball,
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: one fastball, two curveball, three change up. Boom, that's it.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: You're done. Well, Now these guys have like nine pitches.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: Which pitch works for which guy and which situation? Even
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: the outfielders don't know if you know, caught it last night.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: At one point they were like switching around like who
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: had which Like roleless didn't have his his scouting thing
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: in his head right to his card to know where
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: to go on particular hitters. But imagine that times Tien
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: with a catcher, the mental preparation that a catcher has
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: to go through before a series and even daily before
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: a game. He's not just out there playing grab ass
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: like this isn't like the old days were just going
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: we go out there and mess around, shag some balls,
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: hang out with each row and right field because he
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: still thinks he's playing you know, all those things, we'll
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: doing that. No, man, that's a demanding, demanding position. And
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: for him to go through what he did last year
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: and put up the numbers years remarkable. We'll never know
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: truly if that's what's contributing to where he is this year.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Last night's one swing, the relief, the joy that he
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: had afterwards was that almost and I say relief, it
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: just looked like he kind of let it loose finally,
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: like Hey, you know what, and we could talk about
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: the disrespect and all those things. You still have to
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: hit the ball. You still got a barrel up on
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: it and square up on it. Yep, And damn did
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: he ever? So did that change things for cal Rawley,
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: Because if it changed things for cal Rawley, it will
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: change things for the direction of this team as well,
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: and that would be big. That would be really really
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: big and at the right time and at the right
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: time where they really need him along the way. And
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: I think for him, if he is if he finishes
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: the season with the one sixty to one seventy average
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: and the sub two seventy five on base percentage, He's
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: at two sixty six right now, and his slugging percentage
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: is still in the low threes. His ops plus I
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: heard Luke Arkins talking about it earlier. If that's not
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: at least close to league average, uh, and it's not.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: If all those things are happening, then you know what,
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: this team ain't going anywhere. They've got to have him
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: be good. They just have to have him be good.
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: So I'm hoping. I didn't care about the disrespect last night.
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: I didn't care about any of that stuff. I just
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: wanted to see this guy get it going again and
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: get to the point of being cal Rawley because right
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: now he ain't that guy, all right, So hopefully we'll
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: take that step. All right, we'll come back wrap up
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- 1:11:58Speaker 2: So I see you talking about LA line phones. Who
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: has a landline anymore? My parents? So you know what
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: I got rid of mine? A couple of people mentioned landline. Yeah, man,
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: please subscribe to Joe Sheen so you can afford a landline.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: I we're gonna probably we're in this evolution here that
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: we're we're catching up to in this world of media
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: where we're trying to get to We're on YouTube. I
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: don't know if you know that. People people know we're
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: on YouTube. We're on YouTube?
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: What's up?
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: YouTube?
- 1:12:30Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: What wave say?
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: Hi?
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: Hang on a second, I'm going to see if I'm
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: on their YouTube, because I don't. I mean, I'm assuming
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: we are. You can kind of tell, right like if
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: we're on Oh okay, I don't know. Well, I mean, we
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: we've had the power flickering here all damn day, and
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: then I'd be talking to no one. That's the thing. Like,
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: and here's the other part of it, Like we're doing that,
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: and like when Joe's phone's going in and out, I
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: don't know if it's his or we have this what
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: do you call this thing? It's cloud based phones. They're
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: not really phones. We don't really have phones. It's internet
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: internet phone. Yeah, right, so I don't know if that's
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: what it is. But let's see live. How do you
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: do this? How do you do the YouTube thing?
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: Just search KJR YouTube?
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: I did I see Chuck Powell up there? Weren't his
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: muscle shirt again? Hey, you know what, good for you chuckles,
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: You can do that, baby, I'm good for you, man.
- 1:13:16Speaker 2: Good for you to be.
- 1:13:17Speaker 4: Able to do a certain morning show hosts back in
- 1:13:19Speaker 4: the day used to acquire landlines.
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: I know, but but that's but that's great if you
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: have one, like not everybody has one. That's also twenty
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, Like I bring that up when I say, like,
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: do you have a landline? Like I don't have a
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: landline anymore. I thought I was like the last guy
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: in America to have one. I don't know if we're
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: actually on YouTube. I'm looking at it right now, and
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: it's let's look that. Yeah, look into that, see if
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: we're on there.
- 1:13:39Speaker 7: Uh.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: I got rid of my landline probably almost a year ago, which,
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: like I felt like we were the last ones in
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: America to have one, the for Nest family, my wife
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: and I and I got rid of it because the
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: only calls we ever got on it were spam or hey,
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: can we interest interest you in a time share? No,
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: the answer is no, I can you just answer? Go hello, Hello,
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden it clicks on, Hi,
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: is this mister Furnace? Yes, this is this is mister Furnace.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: Who is this high on? You know what? I'm not
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: talking anyway. So I got rid of the landline when
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: we have most people only have cell phones. Now he's
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: in New York, it's hard.
- 1:14:24Speaker 4: Electricity is in the air. That was his Uh.
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're having these massive thunderstorms right there in
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: New York right now. Like, yeah, that's probably the issue
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: because we got them off. We got them off the headset,
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: we got him on to regular to the phone. But
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: now we've got electricity in the air again. We also
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: have a cloud based on. I don't know if we're on, buddy,
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: we are? Are we?
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: Just?
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: How can I not find that? What the hell's wrong
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: with me?
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: Literally search kJ R YouTube?
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: I did, I'm on CAG are you you go to
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: the page? Okay, I hang on, I'm doing this is
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: great radio, but what the hell it's oh wait, there
- 1:14:57Speaker 2: I am live stream. I'm where my Yeah, because I
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: know what I'm wearing today. I think that's me, that's you.
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: I have about that. We got a lot of people watching. Okay, anyway,
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: at some point, my whole point about this was, at
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: some point we're going to have the ability to have
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: when we have guests on probably do them via Zoom
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: or one of the other little alternatives out there, will
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: have video so you can see And then that the
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: ought was because we do that already with the Mullywop guys.
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: We put them on zoom because it's an extended segment.
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: I want to see them, they want to They don't
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: necessarily want to see me, but it just makes it
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: easier to kind of coordinate what we're doing with them.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: So at some point when we do that, we'll have
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Joe on zoom. Even better, see Joe see Joe's smiling
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: face out there all right. Yes, lots of people helping
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: us out on the text line at four nine, four
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: to five. One, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: And you know what, here's a good thing. You know
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: what's everything that's good. Everyone wants to hear Joe, like
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: they all want to hear what you had to say
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: about the Seahawks. So that's a good thing. So yesterday
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert was on with David Mahler and Hugh Millin
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: That's our afternoon show from three to seven, and I
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: assume that's the show again today with those two guys.
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: So they were on yesterday with Logan Gilbert. And we're
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: gonna play a little clip here from Logan in a second.
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: The big, the big thing that everyone's still talking about
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: now it dies down. It'll die down for a day
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: or two, kind of like the electricity and the lightning
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: and the thunder that Joe's dealing with, and then it'll
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: creep back up. If the Mariners lose again tonight, Dan
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: Wilson will be blamed in some way, shape or form,
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: And we talked about it quite a bit yesterday with
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: Chris again on Molly wat Monday. It's been a big
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: topic of conversation Dan Wilson, and is he the guy
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: or not? Softy asked Logan Gilbert yesterday. His thoughts on
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: the criticism that his manager is receiving.
- 1:16:45Speaker 10: I always try to be pretty nice, but like if
- 1:16:48Speaker 10: people if I ever heard people say that, that's probably
- 1:16:50Speaker 10: when I would get fired up. I think I think
- 1:16:53Speaker 10: that's ridiculous that people would ever say that. Dan's one
- 1:16:55Speaker 10: of the best people I've ever met. I think he's
- 1:16:58Speaker 10: amazing at his job and what he does and the
- 1:17:00Speaker 10: way he gets us going. Like you know, nobody outside
- 1:17:03Speaker 10: of here knows what it's like in a locker room
- 1:17:05Speaker 10: with him. Only the players do. And I think every
- 1:17:07Speaker 10: single one of us would go to bat for him.
- 1:17:09Speaker 10: So he's the man. I love playing under him, and
- 1:17:12Speaker 10: I hope he stays here forever.
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: I was listening to that Live yesterday, and I think
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: one of the things that jumped out is towards the
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: end there when he said, no one really sees behind
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: the scenes and how he gets us going and things
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: like that, And I don't know how important that is
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: in today's baseball, but I do know this. The big
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: reason that Scott's service got fired. We all heard about
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: it was because he quote lost the locker room, lost
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: the clubhouse, and if service lost the clubhouse, there's no
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: chance that Dan Wilson has had the same thing. Because
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: you just heard Logan Gilbert talk about and by and large,
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: the strength about Dan Wilson we've heard over and over
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: again is his connection to the guys in the clubhouse
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: and who and what they are. That it was a
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: strong statement by Logan Gilbert. I wouldn't expect him to
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: say anything different. I wouldn't expect him to say, yeah,
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: we're before yesterday, we're fifty and fifty because the manager sucks.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: He's not gonna say that. But what he did say
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: is important because he spoke to the strength of who
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: and what Dan Wilson is in today's baseball. Dan Wilson
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: isn't calling all the shots. We know that a lot
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: of those, a lot of those, the things that they
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: do are are decided before the game, before a series.
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: It's the research that goes into it, the analytics, the
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: that department, and then we always mentioned Jerry and Justin,
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: but it's that whole collective group behind the scenes, and
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: they're presented. Here's what here's what Cincinnati has, and here's
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: what we're gonna do and all those things, and here's
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: here's the pitch counts. Like last night, it was funny
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: last night. I did chuckle. This is why, This is
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: why I just I absolutely just have really peeled back
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: on social media. Like when when George Kirby was taken
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: out yesterday after after eighty pitch, Yeah, shutout innings, six innings, cruising,
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: and he's taking out and collectively people that were covering
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: the game, people that were watching the game, what is
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: he doing? Wilson's an idiot, all the like. It was
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: just this, it was very predictable. Well, I mean, as
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: it turns out, the bullpen then pitched three scoreless innings,
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: manners go on to have a relatively easy win and
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: right decision, wrong decision. He got the win, he got
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: a quality start, he got a part of a shutout,
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: and it was fine. But with Wilson, that was a
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: decision that was probably made before the game. Hey let's
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: keep Kirby if we can keep him around eighty pitches,
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: let's do that. Or he's seeing things that none of
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: us are, whatever that might be. He's a former catcher.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: I don't know. None of us see that, So Wilson's
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: criticism game by game is truly just built on the
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: spur of the moment. Now, the bigger question is is
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: Dan Wilson the right guy to take a team that
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: has high expectations to the next level. Last year's level
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: was ALCS the next levels of the World Series. That
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: question has yet to be determined. But there are a
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: lot of folks that want him out. The players are
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: not among them. If they keep winning. But they'll win
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: this series, Okay, come on, it's the Reats. They're god,
- 1:20:32Speaker 2: They're awful. It's just a bad pace. Oh my goodness.
- 1:20:35Speaker 2: Just watching them kick the ball around yesterday, the Texas
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: series and the Dodger series after that. I think that's
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: when the true evaluation of Wilson comes in. The problem
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: with that is then we're a week away from the
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: Mariner's Anniversary weekend and ain't nothing going to happen? Then,
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: ain't nothing going to happen?
- 1:20:54Speaker 3: Then?
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: I think Dan Wilson's here for the rest of the season.
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about that, despite what
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: many people want to see happened. All Right, we'll take
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: a break, come back, John lonn joins us the high
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- 1:22:37Speaker 1: Welcome to Ian's weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed.
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: He's a Bay Area media icon.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: Who's known Ian for over twenty five years, but don't
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: let their age change your opinion of them. John takes
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: you through the Bay Area and the NFC West and
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- 1:22:58Speaker 2: Here's Ian John Lonjo just weekly visit. We were on
- 1:23:02Speaker 2: Sabbatico last Tuesday because we had the World Cup on,
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: so we didn't get a chance to talk to John
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: last week. But there's a lot to get to today. Hello, sir,
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: how are you.
- 1:23:10Speaker 7: Never better? I'm glad I don't work for ESPN, but
- 1:23:14Speaker 7: never better?
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: Okay. So I brought that up in our first hour.
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: I got I got a zillion text on it as well,
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: and honestly my premise and we joke around a lot,
- 1:23:24Speaker 2: you and I we played grab ass a lot. Yeah,
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: But I think in this case a John worked for
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: a long time for KMBR, which was an absolute like
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: that was a hammer legacy station in sports radio in
- 1:23:36Speaker 2: San Francisco. I don't think it is any it still exists.
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: I don't think it is anymore with what they did
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: down there. ESPN though, was like the gold standard, right,
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: like that was that was the that has been the
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: thing forever. And now all of a sudden, like you
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: see the second round of layoffs in the last what
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: eighteen months or something, significant layoffs. I mentioned to our
- 1:23:58Speaker 2: listeners earlier. What makes me, sad John is not just
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: someone in the business. You hate seeing people lose their jobs.
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: Just what's happened to ESPN. I miss the days where
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: I could flip it on watch a sports center and
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: I would see all of the highlights, right you would
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: see everything whatever was going on that night. You would
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: see those highlights. You'd see all the major league games,
- 1:24:17Speaker 2: all the NBA, all the NHL, whatever would be. And
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: but now it's turned into a scream fests. What's your
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: thoughts on just what happened in the last twenty four
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: hours and where this thing is right now, because it's
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: it's still kind of the beacon of light for sports.
- 1:24:32Speaker 7: Well, one of the the weirdest thing about it is
- 1:24:35Speaker 7: as all these people are being laid off, and a
- 1:24:37Speaker 7: lot of them honestly are part of what you're talking about,
- 1:24:40Speaker 7: but they're just starting to part this down. It's almost
- 1:24:42Speaker 7: like like a tech bubble when it blows, you know,
- 1:24:44Speaker 7: on the tech bubble blows we didn't need Ryan Clark,
- 1:24:46Speaker 7: we didn't need Cam Newton, we need you know, those
- 1:24:49Speaker 7: are those guys are trying to imitate screaming a and
- 1:24:52Speaker 7: so at the same time, some of these guys that
- 1:24:54Speaker 7: Carl Ravage is a true professional. I mean, you're what
- 1:24:57Speaker 7: they're doing is because they're merging with the NFL netw
- 1:25:00Speaker 7: Tom Pellasarro, who's absolutely great. You know, those are people
- 1:25:03Speaker 7: that you really want around who are actually giving you news.
- 1:25:06Speaker 7: And ESPN is inept when it comes to breaking news now,
- 1:25:09Speaker 7: and really something happens of consequence, not of just you know,
- 1:25:12Speaker 7: you gotta scream your head off and your ears start bleeding,
- 1:25:14Speaker 7: because screaming A is screaming. They can't really do that anymore,
- 1:25:18Speaker 7: and so they've decided that there's a way to do this.
- 1:25:20Speaker 7: But the irony here is is that as they're letting
- 1:25:23Speaker 7: all these people go, they're talking about Pat McAfee making
- 1:25:27Speaker 7: sixty million dollars. Now, they've always kind of done that
- 1:25:30Speaker 7: to a certain extent because I've you know, I worked
- 1:25:32Speaker 7: for him for a long time. But the top of
- 1:25:33Speaker 7: the top, like you said, was the.
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: Sports center guy.
- 1:25:35Speaker 7: So Dan Patrick got paid, Chris Berman got paid, Keith Oberman.
- 1:25:38Speaker 7: You know the guys that matter. Now who's getting paid
- 1:25:41Speaker 7: is it's screaming A. It's Pat McAfee, and then it's
- 1:25:44Speaker 7: some insiders passing gets paid as schefter just got an
- 1:25:47Speaker 7: extension those.
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: Are the kind of people that get paid.
- 1:25:50Speaker 7: They pay about you know, eight to ten people and
- 1:25:52Speaker 7: the rest are really there is no middle class at ESPN's.
- 1:25:54Speaker 7: It's it's the grunts at the bottom, and it's the
- 1:25:57Speaker 7: people at the top getting paid a lot of money.
- 1:25:58Speaker 7: They have no middle class what so. And if you're
- 1:26:00Speaker 7: not contributing at a high level to the bottom line
- 1:26:04Speaker 7: by either screaming, yelling or getting people you know, angry,
- 1:26:07Speaker 7: or something to that extent, or you're not somebody really
- 1:26:09Speaker 7: not making a whole lot of money. And this is
- 1:26:10Speaker 7: kind of, you know, the American way, not not to
- 1:26:12Speaker 7: get too deep into this whole thing, but yeah, it's
- 1:26:14Speaker 7: sad because there's a lot of people that you know,
- 1:26:16Speaker 7: aren't as prevalent that are getting that are getting fired.
- 1:26:19Speaker 7: And what it means is that they've got to do
- 1:26:20Speaker 7: more of Steven a is on everything, Pat McAfee's on everything,
- 1:26:23Speaker 7: because they just don't have people to fill all the spaces,
- 1:26:26Speaker 7: and that's why people are getting frustrated.
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: I think the stephen A Pat McAfee thing is fascinating
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: to me from this standpoint. And you know, the open
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: just played. You and I've known each other for twenty
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: five years. We both got to start in the business
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: because David Locke hired us, right, and I say the
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: business in sports radio. I was working in TV and
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: TV news and doing hockey minor league hockey play by play.
- 1:26:48Speaker 2: My first jump into sports radio was when David Locke
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: was running the now defunct thirteen to twenty k fan
- 1:26:53Speaker 2: in Salt Lake. But it's and I say that, we
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: all went across the street started a new station and
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: that station is thriving now to this day. But David
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: hired you me. We have Tim Bens on all the time,
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: Kevin Graham, different guys like that, and we all kind
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: of got our start there. And like I always kind
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: of think back, it's like, okay, that was a we
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: had an opportunity, like right, and had a great opportunity.
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: The business grew around us. But we all did sports
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: radio that was right there then and now now it
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: feels like if you're not the guy screaming at the
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: top of your lungs and having quote a hot take,
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: there's no role for you anymore. And that's not just ESPN, right,
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: it's the nick Rights of the world. Colin Coward hasn't
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: been right about anything. He said factually in probably twenty
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: five years, but he says it with conviction. So people, oh,
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: Colin's great, the business has changed. I don't know if
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: the business and I include all of us, you, me
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: and everybody, I don't know if the business is serving
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: the sports fan as well as it should.
- 1:27:56Speaker 7: No, it's not. There's remember when you had to be right.
- 1:28:00Speaker 7: Remember he had to be accurate. Remember when you had
- 1:28:02Speaker 7: to have two sources.
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: All that. It doesn't matter anymore. It's it's it's it's it's.
- 1:28:08Speaker 7: Gone from you got to be accurate. You want to
- 1:28:10Speaker 7: be first, but you got to be accurate too. It
- 1:28:12Speaker 7: doesn't even matter if you're accurate. It just matters if
- 1:28:14Speaker 7: you're first and loudest. And that's kind of what ESPN
- 1:28:17Speaker 7: has adopted.
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: And so because the ESPN kind of, you know, they
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: lead the way with everything.
- 1:28:22Speaker 7: They're the trailblazer in this in our industry. The way
- 1:28:25Speaker 7: they do things is the way everybody does things. So
- 1:28:27Speaker 7: it trickles down into local radio, into you know, into
- 1:28:30Speaker 7: obviously online and podcasts and everything else. You really, the
- 1:28:34Speaker 7: toughest thing right now to do in sports is like
- 1:28:36Speaker 7: right now with the Lebron James thing, whatever, everyone's mad
- 1:28:38Speaker 7: or it say's taken too long. I really don't care
- 1:28:40Speaker 7: because if I don't choose it to consume Lebron James information,
- 1:28:44Speaker 7: I just don't.
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: So it doesn't upset me.
- 1:28:45Speaker 7: But everybody right now on social media thinks they know
- 1:28:49Speaker 7: where he's going. So from insiders to nobody's to everybody
- 1:28:52Speaker 7: in between. There's something he's going to Philly because we
- 1:28:55Speaker 7: saw him at the airport yesterday, He's going to Miami.
- 1:28:57Speaker 7: You know all these different things, and really nobody knows
- 1:28:59Speaker 7: anything that's going on, but it doesn't stop people from
- 1:29:02Speaker 7: not just speculating, actually going online and saying, I think
- 1:29:05Speaker 7: he's going to go here, there, everywhere, And it's just
- 1:29:07Speaker 7: it's kind of symbolic of what's going on. And as
- 1:29:10Speaker 7: a sports fan and people might be driving around, why
- 1:29:12Speaker 7: do I care? Because there's a sports fan.
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: You don't know what's right or wrong, you don't know
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: what's accurate, you don't know what you know, and it
- 1:29:18Speaker 3: it used to take a little bit of.
- 1:29:19Speaker 7: Skill and contacts and things like that, and now people
- 1:29:23Speaker 7: just throw stuff out there. Like you said, you do
- 1:29:24Speaker 7: not have to be right, you just have to be loud.
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: There was a AI world doesn't help either. I had
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: to know there was a thing. We have a there's
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: a dive bar in just outside of Renting, between rent
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: and Maple Valley on the Maple Valley Renton Highway one
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: sixty nine dive bar called the Red Dog Saloon. And
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: when I say dive bar, John, this is like like
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: it it is. Well, well, on the weekends you'll drive
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: by and there's there's more bikes than anything there. I'll
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: just leave it at that, right, So it's it's it's
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: a it's a dive bar, great spot, cool place. If
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: you go there when it's nice and quiet, you loving
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: it and you're like, okay, it's awesome. So two weeks ago, well,
- 1:30:00Speaker 2: there was this big picture circulated on Facebook that these
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: guys post it from from and I give him credit.
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: I mean a dive bar doing this, and it was
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: Pete Carroll with the two bars or with a bartender
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: in there. And everyone's like, oh my god, Pete's in town.
- 1:30:12Speaker 2: He said Red Dog. We got to head down there
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: right away, and all these kinds of things, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: whoa Pete. That's not Pete, that's called AI. I was
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: around Pete for sixteen years. And I can tell you this,
- 1:30:25Speaker 2: I never saw him in a bar one time. I
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: never saw like that's he is the And if he's
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: going to a bar, it's sure as hell, isn't that place?
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: But you talk about accuracy, anybody can post anything or
- 1:30:38Speaker 2: say anything, or do a blog or a podcast or whatever,
- 1:30:43Speaker 2: and there's no ramifications. You don't know what's right or
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: wrong anymore as a sports fan. And oh, by the way,
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: it's even worse now because there's a little thing called
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: the gambling world. It exists that that really does matter
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: if you're right or wrong, right.
- 1:30:55Speaker 7: Right, well, and that's a whole nother story of I mean,
- 1:30:58Speaker 7: you deal with so much of that in hypocrisy of
- 1:31:00Speaker 7: what's going on, because I look.
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: I can remember when I first started working for.
- 1:31:05Speaker 7: ESPN, if your content included gambling, even references to gambling.
- 1:31:10Speaker 7: And this isn't that long ago, this is maybe ten
- 1:31:12Speaker 7: or twelve years ago. You were in a lot of
- 1:31:14Speaker 7: trouble and you had to explain yourself. I had to
- 1:31:16Speaker 7: do it more than once. And now it's like, by
- 1:31:18Speaker 7: the way, shove it down their throat, gambling, Like, not
- 1:31:22Speaker 7: only do you need you know everything, you reference, make
- 1:31:24Speaker 7: sure that you're you know, whoever they're prot I don't
- 1:31:26Speaker 7: even know who ESPN's partner anymore.
- 1:31:28Speaker 3: Because they've gone through any so many gambling partners.
- 1:31:31Speaker 7: But you know, we're seeing that at a really high
- 1:31:33Speaker 7: level with it now at Arizona Cardinals executive saying that
- 1:31:36Speaker 7: you know, his wife was the one.
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: It wasn't me.
- 1:31:38Speaker 7: My wife was in ten dollars betting knitting circles, right, sure.
- 1:31:41Speaker 7: I mean, it's just it's you know, and ESPN's leading
- 1:31:44Speaker 7: that charge. So what I mean is with everything running downhill,
- 1:31:48Speaker 7: the you know, and maybe some people are like, look,
- 1:31:50Speaker 7: I didn't want to watch that guy.
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: Who want to watch that guy?
- 1:31:52Speaker 7: But the point is is that less and less and
- 1:31:54Speaker 7: this is going to happen at the local levels too,
- 1:31:56Speaker 7: is if you don't have the bombastic person because ESPN
- 1:32:00Speaker 7: leading that way, then those those guys who do great
- 1:32:02Speaker 7: work for you know, your TV stations, your radio stations,
- 1:32:05Speaker 7: everything online, all that kind of stuff, they're just going
- 1:32:08Speaker 7: to go by the wayside because that kind of work.
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: Isn't valued anymore.
- 1:32:11Speaker 7: And that's too bad for the sports fan because there
- 1:32:14Speaker 7: should be some form of accuracy.
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: John Lone joining us, I mean you've you're back kind
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: of in the mainstream media with Westwood One doing some
- 1:32:23Speaker 2: work in both the stations and Phoenix and San Francisco
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: as well, but a lot of Westwood One stuff. You
- 1:32:29Speaker 2: jumped into the world of independence for a while and listen,
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: it's a hard world. And I think that's the hard
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: thing right now. There's so many options out there if
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: you want to listen to X, Y or Z. I
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: don't even like where to even start. But it goes
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: back to what you said. If I see something with
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: ESPN or CBS next to it, I feel like it's
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: like pretty good, Like it's going to be at least
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: there's going to be some accountability. And I think that's
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: the problem the world we live in right now is
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: there isn't a lot of accountability.
- 1:32:57Speaker 7: Well you know what you just mentioned too, and everybody,
- 1:33:00Speaker 7: so everybody, even if it's somebody who's been somewhere, and
- 1:33:02Speaker 7: everyone's getting laid off so that everyone runs the YouTube
- 1:33:05Speaker 7: and does their separate shows, and the only way really
- 1:33:07Speaker 7: to get seen on there is to do something crazy
- 1:33:10Speaker 7: or bombastard or say certain things. And that's what you're
- 1:33:12Speaker 7: trying to do, because you're trying to go viral as
- 1:33:15Speaker 7: fast as you can, and so it can grow your
- 1:33:17Speaker 7: channels and everything else. Or you're not going to get
- 1:33:19Speaker 7: that by just doing the same old stuff. You have
- 1:33:22Speaker 7: to say something crazy. It has to go viral. So
- 1:33:24Speaker 7: it's even getting worse on an independent level because you
- 1:33:27Speaker 7: want to grab that audience and the only way really
- 1:33:30Speaker 7: to grab that audience is to go viral. So that's
- 1:33:32Speaker 7: what I mean is you've got ESPN, and you've got
- 1:33:34Speaker 7: all these local things, and then you've got the people
- 1:33:36Speaker 7: who have gotten independent and they think it's going to
- 1:33:39Speaker 7: be really easy and all their audience is going to
- 1:33:40Speaker 7: follow them, and we all know that that's not a
- 1:33:42Speaker 7: totally different audience. But the algorithms and all the weird stuff,
- 1:33:45Speaker 7: and again not to get too deep, but you've got
- 1:33:47Speaker 7: to say crazy stuff, or you've got to make claims
- 1:33:49Speaker 7: that Lebron's going here or there or anywhere else. And
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: so it's really confusing as a consumer of all this
- 1:33:54Speaker 7: stuff to know what is accurate. And I think, like
- 1:33:56Speaker 7: I said, the Lebron thing is a perfect example of it,
- 1:33:59Speaker 7: because people don't don't know even guys like Shams, you know,
- 1:34:02Speaker 7: the guy like anymore. All I do is if it's
- 1:34:04Speaker 7: Sham's in the NBA, if it's if it's Jeff passing
- 1:34:07Speaker 7: a Major League Baseball, if it's Chefter or rap sheet
- 1:34:10Speaker 7: in the NFL, Like those are the only people because
- 1:34:12Speaker 7: everybody else I don't I don't care. You know, there's
- 1:34:14Speaker 7: a few more than than what I just said, But
- 1:34:16Speaker 7: you just got to be careful.
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: What you consume, and then you got to make sure
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: that it's a really count.
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's you also live in the world now
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: to where the agents dictate that what's being said.
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: We ran into this with the crack in a few
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: weeks ago where the agent for a player Shane Wright,
- 1:34:33Speaker 2: who was their first pick fourth overall three years ago,
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: four years ago, now like he didn't have a great
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: season kind of regress a little bit this year, and
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: of course the agent's mad. Everyone's mad. So like they
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: start floating stuff out there, and they float out a
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: thing that says he's been promised by the team that
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: he will be traded. Well, there's zero chance any team,
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: like no team would do that. Like you're not gonna say,
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: oh yeah, one hundred percent, we're gonna tr this summer.
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: Why would you do that? And then and then we'll
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: have it leaked out. You have no leverage, like there's
- 1:35:04Speaker 2: a little level of common sense, but the agent leaks
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: it out, and a couple decent guys in the NHL
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: that do are the shifters of the NHL, go well,
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: Shane Wright's been promised by Jason Bodrow He's gonna be traded. No,
- 1:35:14Speaker 2: he wasn't. He never was. So then you have a
- 1:35:16Speaker 2: road like It's like and I come on the air
- 1:35:18Speaker 2: and say that, and people go, well, you did you
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: work for the team and that's why you're saying that.
- 1:35:22Speaker 2: I go, well, yes, I work for the team, and yes,
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: that's why I probably know what I'm talking about. And
- 1:35:27Speaker 2: b I'm telling you he was never told. Now he
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: may be traded, but he's never told that. That's the
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: problem with the insiders is every insider is getting information
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: from one or two places, a GM with an agenda
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: or more than likely. And I think you'd agree with me.
- 1:35:41Speaker 2: What would you say about seventy five percent of the
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: time the insiders where they're getting their information from from
- 1:35:46Speaker 2: a player agent and then sprinkled in with maybe yeh
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: or or sprinkled in with wait for it, an opposing
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: team that has an agenda, right, like, so you have
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: to take everywhere.
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: The great got something. Yeah, exactly what you just said.
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it is run by agents, just
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: so that people know it's agents leaking things. I rub
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: your back, you rub minument. It's a whole different system.
- 1:36:06Speaker 7: And what happens with it is is you know you're
- 1:36:08Speaker 7: not gonna get anything without giving something.
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: So that's what the whole system is. It's back and forth,
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: back and forth.
- 1:36:13Speaker 7: That's why, like I said, those are the only guys
- 1:36:15Speaker 7: that you and you mentioned some NHL guys too that I.
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: Know are very credible as well.
- 1:36:19Speaker 7: But that's where it just gets really iffy and in
- 1:36:22Speaker 7: this business.
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: And like Schefter just got an ascension. He's one of
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: the few that ESPN is going to pay.
- 1:36:27Speaker 7: But if look, if he's not coming up with information
- 1:36:28Speaker 7: like a while ago, I'm trying to think what it
- 1:36:30Speaker 7: was with Shams.
- 1:36:31Speaker 3: He broke some information. It was on a player.
- 1:36:33Speaker 7: I'm trying to I'm blanking on the exact player. But
- 1:36:35Speaker 7: the point is is that there was a whole controversy
- 1:36:37Speaker 7: of whether Sham should have broke this news, and Shams
- 1:36:40Speaker 7: came out and said, look, man.
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: My job is to breat news and.
- 1:36:44Speaker 7: They beat somebody to the punch and it made a
- 1:36:46Speaker 7: league mad. I think it was during the NBA Draft.
- 1:36:48Speaker 7: Maybe there's some sort of trade or something, and the
- 1:36:51Speaker 7: league got all mad, and Sham's goes, look, if I'm
- 1:36:52Speaker 7: not breaking news, I'm gonna get fired. We just were
- 1:36:56Speaker 7: watching what's going on with ESPN and this, look, this
- 1:36:59Speaker 7: isn't a shock to any bud. This is just it
- 1:37:01Speaker 7: just goes in waves. Okay, this that now they just
- 1:37:03Speaker 7: like guys, le guys go.
- 1:37:05Speaker 3: It's just because a lot of it depends on what
- 1:37:07Speaker 3: your opinion is with Pat McAfee. And if you think
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: you're sick.
- 1:37:10Speaker 7: Of him, now, if you don't like him, then you
- 1:37:12Speaker 7: just wait because he just got he's gonna get sixty
- 1:37:15Speaker 7: million dollars a year and he's gonna spread that amongst
- 1:37:17Speaker 7: his crew.
- 1:37:17Speaker 3: I understand that.
- 1:37:18Speaker 7: But he's gonna get sixty million dollars a year and
- 1:37:21Speaker 7: it's just gonna lessen what they've got and he's gonna
- 1:37:23Speaker 7: have to be on more stuff. By the way, I
- 1:37:25Speaker 7: just thought of the funny. See, so Warren Moon was
- 1:37:27Speaker 7: on with us.
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: We were in LA. I don't know if I've ever
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: told you the story.
- 1:37:29Speaker 7: We're on in LA at the super Bowl, right, and
- 1:37:31Speaker 7: it was the first year that McAfee made it big,
- 1:37:34Speaker 7: and so of course McAfee wears a tank top every show,
- 1:37:38Speaker 7: and we were right next to his big stage. I
- 1:37:40Speaker 7: think FanDuel at the time. I don't know if there's
- 1:37:42Speaker 7: still the sponsor, but fanduels and two things. So he's
- 1:37:44Speaker 7: this big stage at the super Bowl and Warren Moon
- 1:37:46Speaker 7: sits down and looks at me and he goes, I thought,
- 1:37:49Speaker 7: you're supposed to have muscles if you wore a tank top.
- 1:37:55Speaker 3: You know, he is he's a little bit contakerous, you.
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: Know, yeah, oh yeah, a little bit of a little yeah.
- 1:38:01Speaker 3: And it was it was funny, man.
- 1:38:03Speaker 7: It was like we're just sitting there, like, you know,
- 1:38:04Speaker 7: you kind of looked up and McAfee looked, you know,
- 1:38:06Speaker 7: and some of it was jealousy because I think at
- 1:38:08Speaker 7: that time it was like, I think we had heard
- 1:38:09Speaker 7: McAfee was making like thirty five million bucks. But I mean,
- 1:38:12Speaker 7: you know, if you're him and I you know, I
- 1:38:14Speaker 7: he's probably not gonna address it. But I mean to
- 1:38:16Speaker 7: imagine you're watching all these guys, guys like Carl Rabbits
- 1:38:18Speaker 7: who have been there for I mean, I'm not worried
- 1:38:20Speaker 7: about the Ryan Clark's of the world or the you know,
- 1:38:22Speaker 7: the Cam Newton's of the world, and take or.
- 1:38:23Speaker 3: Leave those guys.
- 1:38:24Speaker 7: But you know, some of these guys that are real professionals.
- 1:38:27Speaker 3: I mean Rabbage has been at ESPN since eighty three.
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: I get it. At some point you're not useful. He
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: still is. You know, guys like that are sorry.
- 1:38:35Speaker 7: I got a I got a wolf dog actually is
- 1:38:37Speaker 7: like he's tiny and he barks like that anywhere.
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: Fun.
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just crazy.
- 1:38:42Speaker 7: But anyway, you know, that's got to be tough. I mean,
- 1:38:44Speaker 7: it's not like you're not going to take the sixty
- 1:38:46Speaker 7: million dollars, but it's like, hey, twenty guys were just
- 1:38:48Speaker 7: like twenty people were just laid off today, so you
- 1:38:50Speaker 7: can make sixty million bucks.
- 1:38:51Speaker 3: Enjoy that money.
- 1:38:52Speaker 2: Well, Rav ravash Man, he did the he did the
- 1:38:55Speaker 2: game last night on ESPN, the Phillies, uh Philly's Dodgers
- 1:38:59Speaker 2: game last night. Then he finishes the game. Hey, great call,
- 1:39:02Speaker 2: A great call, by the way you're going, by the.
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: Way, that's just how it works.
- 1:39:08Speaker 7: I remember I was Tom Tober, who's a complete legend
- 1:39:12Speaker 7: in our industry down at came be our play for
- 1:39:13Speaker 7: the Warriors.
- 1:39:14Speaker 3: Yea.
- 1:39:15Speaker 7: Anyway, he got let go earlier in the morning. And
- 1:39:17Speaker 7: then I walked in and I go, that's probably not
- 1:39:19Speaker 7: good for me. And so, you know, I walk in,
- 1:39:21Speaker 7: I do my show, and you know, it was a
- 1:39:24Speaker 7: normal old show, and I thought, I guess I'm gonna
- 1:39:25Speaker 7: make it. All of a sudden, I grab my bag.
- 1:39:27Speaker 7: I'm grabbing my stuff.
- 1:39:28Speaker 3: I am like.
- 1:39:29Speaker 7: One foot out of the door of the studio and
- 1:39:31Speaker 7: they go, hey, GM needs to see and that's the equivalent.
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: Of, you know, bring your playbook.
- 1:39:35Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, you know, like I just knew, right,
- 1:39:39Speaker 7: you know, at two oh one. They wait until I
- 1:39:41Speaker 7: finished the show on a Friday, of course, and it's
- 1:39:44Speaker 7: two to oh one and they go and they're like,
- 1:39:46Speaker 7: you know, you know, coach wanted to see you bring
- 1:39:48Speaker 7: your playbook.
- 1:39:49Speaker 3: And You're like, oh, you know on a weekend.
- 1:39:52Speaker 2: Did they at least say have a good weekend.
- 1:39:56Speaker 7: I don't even remember anything. He's just like sign this
- 1:39:59Speaker 7: sign now. I go, no, I I'm not saying that.
- 1:40:00Speaker 7: I will not say that. You'll be hearing from my lawyer.
- 1:40:02Speaker 7: You know, that kind of stubby you know, it's never fun.
- 1:40:06Speaker 2: Were you pissed? Like what'd you do?
- 1:40:07Speaker 9: Like?
- 1:40:07Speaker 2: Were you just like, okay, screw you up leaving or what? No?
- 1:40:11Speaker 7: You know what I had heard lots of people were
- 1:40:13Speaker 7: like that.
- 1:40:13Speaker 3: You know, I'm one of those people that doesn't. I
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: try not to burn bridges because you just never know.
- 1:40:17Speaker 3: Our industry is so small.
- 1:40:19Speaker 7: Everyone thinks, so it's such a small everybody's industry is small,
- 1:40:23Speaker 7: you know the sidden you turn around and you're working
- 1:40:24Speaker 7: for a guy that you you know, you f bombed
- 1:40:26Speaker 7: or something. I've done that before and be like, hey, buddy,
- 1:40:28Speaker 7: I was just kidding there and whatever. Uh, but yeah
- 1:40:32Speaker 7: I was, yeah, I'm sure I wasn't too happy. And
- 1:40:35Speaker 7: what was funny was our big boss from you know,
- 1:40:37Speaker 7: wherever called me on the way home and he's like,
- 1:40:39Speaker 7: hey man, you know, you know I tried to say it.
- 1:40:41Speaker 7: I'm like, you're the last guy I want to talk
- 1:40:43Speaker 7: to you, like, get out of here.
- 1:40:44Speaker 3: But again, you got to be nice to people because
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: you don't know, you.
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: Know, want a world we're in? Huh what a damn
- 1:40:52Speaker 2: world we're in.
- 1:40:53Speaker 3: I mean I thought it used to be just us,
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: you know, like walking on a high wire.
- 1:40:56Speaker 2: But it's everybody now. It really is no tech. I
- 1:40:59Speaker 2: mean we're getting text from people. I mean we're here
- 1:41:00Speaker 2: in this tech build of the tech world like you
- 1:41:02Speaker 2: are in the Bay is the same way, but I
- 1:41:04Speaker 2: mean up in here in Washington. I mean we've got
- 1:41:06Speaker 2: Todd light Wicky, the crack and CEO spoke to uh
- 1:41:09Speaker 2: I think it was a chamber in some some panel
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: yesterday and and he's like, hey, like we've got to
- 1:41:16Speaker 2: wise up here. We're losing jobs all over the place
- 1:41:19Speaker 2: in the Pacific Northwest, like big tech jobs, high paying
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: tech jobs and things like that.
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: Like it's like, yeah, just like the Bay.
- 1:41:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I mean, it's not no one safe anymore.
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: It's just it's a it's a tough place to be
- 1:41:30Speaker 2: in these days. Hey, training camp starts this week. Here
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: we go. Do you think do you think Donald's coming
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: back or not? Do you think Aaron Donald's coming back?
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I don't want to hear that either,
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: just like you don't want to hear that.
- 1:41:44Speaker 7: No, I know I think that you know you don't
- 1:41:48Speaker 7: want it, but you know, and John McBay came out
- 1:41:50Speaker 7: and it said, hey, you know, maybe he's playing twelve
- 1:41:52Speaker 7: to fifteen plays. Well, if you do a little bit
- 1:41:54Speaker 7: of mass, twelve to fifteen plays is like third downs, right,
- 1:41:57Speaker 7: that's not going to be Aaron Donald Like that might
- 1:41:59Speaker 7: be where he starts, because I know he doesn't want
- 1:42:00Speaker 7: to do like a full training camp, but it might
- 1:42:02Speaker 7: be twelve to fifteen and then all of a sudden
- 1:42:05Speaker 7: it's X and then and by the end of the
- 1:42:06Speaker 7: season when the Seahawks and Rams play each other, what
- 1:42:08Speaker 7: week sixteen, week eighteen, and then of course in the
- 1:42:10Speaker 7: playoffs will be the same thing. He's gonna be ramped
- 1:42:13Speaker 7: up and he's gonna be ready to go. Like you're
- 1:42:15Speaker 7: gonna keep that guy off the field, like maybe twelve
- 1:42:17Speaker 7: to fifteen through the first month or so, and he
- 1:42:19Speaker 7: kind of rams up a little bit by the time
- 1:42:21Speaker 7: the games really matter. He's gonna be a full time player. Now,
- 1:42:25Speaker 7: how good is it gonna because he hasn't played since
- 1:42:26Speaker 7: twenty three I don't think anybody knows. But you know,
- 1:42:30Speaker 7: when people make lists and Matt Rushmore's and all that
- 1:42:33Speaker 7: stupid stuff, I only based on who I saw play.
- 1:42:36Speaker 7: So like you and I are old enough, we remember
- 1:42:38Speaker 7: like the Lawrence Taylor's of the world and all that stuff.
- 1:42:40Speaker 3: But I didn't see Deacon Jones. I didn't see you
- 1:42:42Speaker 3: know what I mean. I saw a lot of good.
- 1:42:43Speaker 7: Players, and so I haven't seen them all. But Aaron
- 1:42:46Speaker 7: Donald and Lawrence Taylor.
- 1:42:48Speaker 3: Are probably the two best players dependsively I ever saw
- 1:42:50Speaker 3: in my life. And that's and if.
- 1:42:52Speaker 7: He's coming back and he's gonna face our teams, that's
- 1:42:55Speaker 7: not good.
- 1:42:56Speaker 2: Eight first team All Pro selections an eight. Like guys
- 1:43:03Speaker 2: get into the Hall of Fame with two, sometimes with one.
- 1:43:07Speaker 2: He has eight. I'm not talking even about second team.
- 1:43:10Speaker 2: They don't even list his second team All pros, which
- 1:43:13Speaker 2: I think he had twent twice, his rookie his rookie Yeah,
- 1:43:17Speaker 2: his rookie year and I think maybe in twenty twenty
- 1:43:21Speaker 2: two is second last year, but like everything else was
- 1:43:23Speaker 2: first team two. Let's see three time defensive player year.
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: Here's the only thing, in all seriousness, thirty five years old,
- 1:43:30Speaker 2: Like yeah, like yep, Like I don't wish and I'm
- 1:43:35Speaker 2: not saying that I'm not wishing injury on the guy
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: or anything like that, but thirty five your body is different. Hell,
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: I mean your body is different from twenty five to
- 1:43:44Speaker 2: thirty five to sixty fifty five whatever it might be, right,
- 1:43:47Speaker 2: your body is, I'll let you know how.
- 1:43:49Speaker 7: It is, because I haven't earned thirty five yet, so
- 1:43:51Speaker 7: I don't know how that goes.
- 1:43:52Speaker 3: Only you know that. But you were.
- 1:43:56Speaker 2: You were a thirty five year old that was acting
- 1:43:58Speaker 2: like you're seventeen when I first met you back in
- 1:44:00Speaker 2: the day. So that's my body's.
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: My body's one hundred and thirty five. I've abused my
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: body so bad.
- 1:44:06Speaker 7: I'm trying to make up for it, but it's too late.
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: I just you know, oh good, everything's breaking down.
- 1:44:12Speaker 2: We were we were in Bend, Oregon for a few
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: days last week, and we drive home and it's a
- 1:44:15Speaker 2: long ass drive home. I get out of the car
- 1:44:17Speaker 2: and my wife's like that you okay. I'm like, I
- 1:44:20Speaker 2: mean to fin okay, it just because it took me
- 1:44:24Speaker 2: like five minutes to get out of the car after
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: been sitting there for three or four hours.
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine, looking at a massage, believe. We drove to
- 1:44:33Speaker 3: San Diego last.
- 1:44:34Speaker 7: Week and it was like, you know, I spent a
- 1:44:36Speaker 7: few days there and you know, I don't trust my
- 1:44:37Speaker 7: wife to drive. We got a sixteen year old. She
- 1:44:40Speaker 7: ain't driving while I'm in the car, so you know,
- 1:44:42Speaker 7: I drive the whole thing.
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, you want to sixteen year old to drive,
- 1:44:47Speaker 3: that's fine, you can do it on your own time.
- 1:44:49Speaker 3: But uh but I mean I get out of that
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: car and it's like yeah.
- 1:44:51Speaker 7: Next day, like full body massage, Like come on this,
- 1:44:54Speaker 7: hell's going on?
- 1:44:55Speaker 2: That's sixteen year old. You can drive that sixteen year old?
- 1:44:57Speaker 2: Is your uber right now? Buddy? Like that's the key?
- 1:45:00Speaker 3: Now that's different.
- 1:45:01Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I actually I shouldn't be telling you this,
- 1:45:03Speaker 7: but I we have an Italian place right.
- 1:45:05Speaker 3: Down the road. That's amazing.
- 1:45:06Speaker 7: And I didn't think I was gonna do anything, but
- 1:45:08Speaker 7: they were giving out complimentary Uzo after and already had
- 1:45:11Speaker 7: an after dinner drink and I probably had a little
- 1:45:13Speaker 7: bit of wine during the during the thing, and it
- 1:45:15Speaker 7: was only a few blocks away, but I'm like, I'm
- 1:45:17Speaker 7: not driving home.
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: They did.
- 1:45:18Speaker 7: They set these Uzos on the table and like what
- 1:45:22Speaker 7: She's like, yeah, these are complimentary. My wife didn't want her,
- 1:45:24Speaker 7: so I'm like, well, I'll take yours, And then I
- 1:45:26Speaker 7: thought yep.
- 1:45:27Speaker 3: Then I just texted the sixteen year old. Now that's okay.
- 1:45:30Speaker 7: But as far as like long distance driving, no, No.
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: I'm not a no no for that yet.
- 1:45:35Speaker 2: Uzzo is like a cure likely sambuca, right, kind of
- 1:45:39Speaker 2: like liquor.
- 1:45:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it tastes like licorice. Yeah, they put the you know,
- 1:45:41Speaker 3: they put the espresso beans in there. It goes right down.
- 1:45:45Speaker 2: No, oh, God is wrong with you?
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: Don't during the week.
- 1:45:50Speaker 2: Actually, it was a real job.
- 1:45:53Speaker 3: I can't be doing that. That was a Monday night.
- 1:45:55Speaker 2: It was free. It was free. That's why it was
- 1:45:56Speaker 2: so good, right, yeah, yeah, and you have.
- 1:45:59Speaker 7: Her wouldn't have ordered it. I wouldn't have ordered it,
- 1:46:02Speaker 7: that's for sure. She like set it in front of us,
- 1:46:05Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh, you know, yeah, he's a free drink.
- 1:46:09Speaker 3: I didn't want hers.
- 1:46:10Speaker 2: No, why not?
- 1:46:10Speaker 3: I go?
- 1:46:11Speaker 2: My son's name is my son's Keifer. We used to
- 1:46:14Speaker 2: call it the Kuber. Yeah, get the Coober half the Cooper,
- 1:46:17Speaker 2: come get us.
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: That really is the only thing they're good for. A
- 1:46:23Speaker 3: house at home. Listen, we just bought her a car.
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: It's oh god, what are you doing? You know?
- 1:46:28Speaker 2: But you know, come on, yeah, no, but then they do.
- 1:46:31Speaker 2: Then they turned twenty one and they want to ride
- 1:46:33Speaker 2: from you. That's the problem.
- 1:46:37Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 1:46:37Speaker 2: That's the issue.
- 1:46:38Speaker 3: That's not happening kidding me?
- 1:46:41Speaker 2: Are you still getting calls from our friends here in
- 1:46:43Speaker 2: Seattle on your shows? Your national shows?
- 1:46:45Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:46:46Speaker 7: Yeah, like I said, Saturdays and Sundays, I'm doing a
- 1:46:47Speaker 7: lot of the mornings too. I did three of the
- 1:46:49Speaker 7: mornings last week. And uh, you know, everything's been good.
- 1:46:53Speaker 7: Like I said, we're getting the suburbs everywhere, and like
- 1:46:55Speaker 7: I said, they all mention you. Yeah, so it must
- 1:46:58Speaker 7: be work. Something must be working. I don't know what,
- 1:47:00Speaker 7: but something must be working. W don't you go and
- 1:47:02Speaker 7: let purple sheet rich No, Rich Moore know that?
- 1:47:04Speaker 3: Well? All right?
- 1:47:04Speaker 2: Can you fuck because I don't because because what I
- 1:47:07Speaker 2: do after hearing your story, because he John told me
- 1:47:09Speaker 2: the story about the cambr you know when it happened.
- 1:47:12Speaker 2: And I thought of this even beforehand, because I see
- 1:47:14Speaker 2: it happen here all the time. Man, two fifty four hits,
- 1:47:19Speaker 2: this guy is out, Like I'm gone, Yeah.
- 1:47:25Speaker 3: Don't stay till three. That's when they get you.
- 1:47:27Speaker 7: Yeah, I may they start huddling up, going get him
- 1:47:30Speaker 7: about get him right when.
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: The show And so just if you just get they
- 1:47:33Speaker 3: can't fire you.
- 1:47:34Speaker 2: If you run out the door really fast, make it
- 1:47:36Speaker 2: harder on him, you know, what make it make it
- 1:47:38Speaker 2: harder on them? Exactly? All right, well, I'm what time
- 1:47:41Speaker 2: is it right now? I'm about twenty seven minutes away
- 1:47:43Speaker 2: from that, So all right, you listen. Listen to one.
- 1:47:46Speaker 2: He's on nine to fifty on the AM dial on
- 1:47:48Speaker 2: the weekends and west Wood One. Go check him out.
- 1:47:50Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. We've got NFL troup.
- 1:47:52Speaker 2: We'll be in I'll be at the Virginia Mason Athletics
- 1:47:55Speaker 2: centerally here whistles and horns in the background. You'll you'll
- 1:47:58Speaker 2: love it next week, all right, can't let's go? All right, buddy,
- 1:48:01Speaker 2: let me doe going. I'll talk to you that And
- 1:48:02Speaker 2: that's John. I love having him on every week. Take
- 1:48:04Speaker 2: a break, come back, check your text next.
- 1:48:08Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Furness on your Home for the
- 1:48:11Speaker 1: Huskies Cracking and The Twelfth Man, brought to you by
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- 1:48:31Speaker 2: Later or not always good. Hearing John, he was on
- 1:48:35Speaker 2: time today right there for Trout. I was shocked to
- 1:48:39Speaker 2: hear him pick up the phone. I told him, I said, hey, man,
- 1:48:44Speaker 2: hey fella, you gotta be there, man, You gotta be
- 1:48:47Speaker 2: there for my guy Travis today. This isn't Andrews, This
- 1:48:49Speaker 2: isn't Jazz. This guy's got stuff going on. He's got
- 1:48:52Speaker 2: young kids, the guys he's helping us out. He just
- 1:48:55Speaker 2: finished doing World Cup stuff. They'll be screwing around you.
- 1:48:58Speaker 2: You can mess around next week when Andrew back. So
- 1:49:00Speaker 2: I'm stressed out enough. You've got enough going on, buddy. No,
- 1:49:04Speaker 2: he We appreciate him coming on today as well, all right,
- 1:49:07Speaker 2: four nine four five one Marcus. I stopped listening to
- 1:49:10Speaker 2: Colin once he said you dub is going to regret
- 1:49:11Speaker 2: getting rid of Sark. I like, I love Sark, but
- 1:49:14Speaker 2: that was the best decision that could have made because
- 1:49:16Speaker 2: we made the fourteen playoff twice. Yeah, of course, tell
- 1:49:19Speaker 2: one that screaming a is the best thing I've heard
- 1:49:22Speaker 2: a long time. And the Niners suck. I love that.
- 1:49:26Speaker 2: Talk about Dan Wilson four to one, Oh where's that?
- 1:49:28Speaker 9: Four?
- 1:49:28Speaker 2: One?
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: Oh?
- 1:49:28Speaker 2: Where is that?
- 1:49:31Speaker 3: La?
- 1:49:31Speaker 2: No? That's three one oh? Right, Yeah, that's my area code.
- 1:49:35Speaker 2: I criticized Dan Wilson on the culture he brings, his
- 1:49:37Speaker 2: ability to win the city of title. He hasn't delivered.
- 1:49:39Speaker 2: They won a world series and come to find out
- 1:49:41Speaker 2: the culture and locker room is terrible. As a fan,
- 1:49:42Speaker 2: I don't care. And on the flip side, if they're
- 1:49:44Speaker 2: terrible and they have a great culture and locker room,
- 1:49:45Speaker 2: as a fan, I don't care. I want wins. I
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: want titles. Damn right, we all want that from Baltimore. Baltimore.
- 1:49:51Speaker 2: Really there you go, all the Joe she and stuff. Yes,
- 1:49:55Speaker 2: we're gonna get that again. What did he tell you?
- 1:49:57Speaker 2: Electric electricity in the air and massive thunderstorms going on
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: in New York City right now. And that was kind
- 1:50:04Speaker 2: of like we we have corrected the audio issues. Used
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: to be on a headset. Now he does it on
- 1:50:10Speaker 2: the phone. But when you have electricity, we don't deal
- 1:50:14Speaker 2: with that out here really that often. So it's different.
- 1:50:17Speaker 2: Was there a big thunderstorm last Thursday? I was out
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: of town.
- 1:50:19Speaker 4: I think it was Wednesday?
- 1:50:21Speaker 2: Wednesday last week? Okay, yeah, yeah, though talking about ESPN,
- 1:50:25Speaker 2: A lot of people talking about that today. ESPN became
- 1:50:28Speaker 2: a political network, mask gratings a sports network. They alienated
- 1:50:31Speaker 2: half their audience. Instead of talking to their audience, they
- 1:50:32Speaker 2: talked at them. Uh yeah, I there's a couple talking
- 1:50:40Speaker 2: about Actually a handful of ones talking about ESPN becoming
- 1:50:44Speaker 2: quote too political. You know, one of the things in
- 1:50:47Speaker 2: sports that that has actually evolved over the years in
- 1:50:53Speaker 2: sports media is there are times when you can't evolve,
- 1:50:57Speaker 2: you can't avoid the politics. Sometimes it's something as simple
- 1:51:02Speaker 2: as city politics in regards to funding arenas or stadiums,
- 1:51:07Speaker 2: vacating streets. But that's I think different what they're referring
- 1:51:11Speaker 2: to here, This is the politics or you know, you
- 1:51:16Speaker 2: hear the term race baiting a lot when it comes
- 1:51:18Speaker 2: to to certain talent. You do have to be careful.
- 1:51:22Speaker 2: I think a lot of people and we're told that
- 1:51:24Speaker 2: all the time in our business and by our by
- 1:51:26Speaker 2: our people run our station. Hey try to avoid that stuff,
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: and most time I think you do, but there's times
- 1:51:32Speaker 2: you can't. ESPN has lost its way. They just have.
- 1:51:40Speaker 2: They've just they've just lost their way and who and
- 1:51:43Speaker 2: what it was when when when I used to work
- 1:51:46Speaker 2: in sports television, I've told this. I began my career
- 1:51:52Speaker 2: working at Como TV as a sports producer and producing
- 1:51:57Speaker 2: for Bruce King, Bob Rondo, Rick Meter, and probably in
- 1:52:04Speaker 2: the early nineties, we're being told by news directors, hey,
- 1:52:08Speaker 2: we're probably gonna cut back sports a little bit we
- 1:52:10Speaker 2: used to have. We used to do a four to
- 1:52:13Speaker 2: five minute sports cast in the five o'clock news, and
- 1:52:15Speaker 2: the five o'clock news for US was an hour five
- 1:52:17Speaker 2: to six. Then we ran ABC World News tonight at
- 1:52:21Speaker 2: six six to six thirty, and then at six thirty
- 1:52:23Speaker 2: we had a thirty minute newscast in the thirty, So
- 1:52:25Speaker 2: we had four to five minutes at five, we had
- 1:52:28Speaker 2: three minutes at six thirty, and we had another four
- 1:52:30Speaker 2: to five minutes at eleven. So we produced a lot
- 1:52:34Speaker 2: of content sports wise. Towards the end of my tenure
- 1:52:37Speaker 2: there before I started getting into the minor league hockey
- 1:52:39Speaker 2: stuff and eventually the Salt Lake and doing sports talk.
- 1:52:42Speaker 2: We were told by news directors, hey, we don't need
- 1:52:45Speaker 2: local sports anymore because ESPN exists and they show all
- 1:52:50Speaker 2: the highlights. And our argument always was, well, they're not
- 1:52:54Speaker 2: showing whoever was playing for. Harold Reynolds steals three bags
- 1:52:59Speaker 2: and King Griffy Junior hits a home run and Randy Johnson,
- 1:53:01Speaker 2: you know, fire is a one hitter. They're not showing
- 1:53:04Speaker 2: that on ESPN. They're showing the Dodgers. Now, they might
- 1:53:08Speaker 2: show a highlight like a little bit because it was
- 1:53:10Speaker 2: back in the early days of Sports Center, but they
- 1:53:12Speaker 2: weren't really jumping into it. You didn't see a soundby
- 1:53:14Speaker 2: with King Griffy Junior afterwards, and you know we fight
- 1:53:18Speaker 2: that battle all the time. Well that's even more so
- 1:53:20Speaker 2: the case now. And the odd thing is you look locally.
- 1:53:23Speaker 2: Cairo doesn't even Channel seven doesn't even have a sports department.
- 1:53:26Speaker 2: Like if you're a sports fan, that's the station you
- 1:53:28Speaker 2: just never watch. Nico is all by himself at Channel four.
- 1:53:33Speaker 2: The other's two stations do a good job. King does
- 1:53:35Speaker 2: a great job with Paul Ariel and Chris Breeze there too,
- 1:53:40Speaker 2: she does a great They do a great job. And
- 1:53:42Speaker 2: obviously Fox with Aaron and Lauren and Ethan, they do
- 1:53:47Speaker 2: a terrific job. They show and those two stations who shows.
- 1:53:50Speaker 2: King does a show every day in the morning. Fox
- 1:53:53Speaker 2: says what at night? And they do more sports. But
- 1:53:57Speaker 2: ESPN's lost its way. Somebody said there they're gonna ESPN
- 1:54:01Speaker 2: getting rid of Top Town is going to lead the
- 1:54:03Speaker 2: more podcasts. To compete with ESPN. Someone should do a
- 1:54:06Speaker 2: sports highlight podcast every night. That's easier said than done.
- 1:54:09Speaker 2: You don't have access to the highlights that's the problem
- 1:54:12Speaker 2: that you would run into. But it's unfortunate man like
- 1:54:15Speaker 2: guys like David Lloyd Carr Rabbits got let go. And
- 1:54:18Speaker 2: if you want to hear somebody screaming yow, you watch
- 1:54:20Speaker 2: ESPN if you want to get highlights, I don't know
- 1:54:22Speaker 2: where you go anymore. All right, Uh, were good, We're done.
- 1:54:25Speaker 2: We're softy is he?
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: Here?
- 1:54:25Speaker 2: Is he? Jimmy? He's here? I heard him, buddy, you
- 1:54:31Speaker 2: could hear him if you're said to Jimmy's too. That's
- 1:54:33Speaker 2: only two miles away. Soft you'll join us next. Ok, Doki,
- 1:54:46Speaker 2: here we are. It's been a while. How are you.
- 1:54:50Speaker 2: I'm fine.
- 1:54:50Speaker 11: I got these new headphones. Everything sounds all tinty. Where's
- 1:54:55Speaker 11: your where's your headphone? They're in my office at home.
- 1:54:57Speaker 11: I don't been here in two weeks and I forgot it.
- 1:55:00Speaker 11: You know what's funny, man, I was sitting there. This
- 1:55:02Speaker 11: is the senior right of stuff I think we deal
- 1:55:03Speaker 11: with by the way, I'm sitting there in my office,
- 1:55:05Speaker 11: tell me about it, staring right at my headphones. They're
- 1:55:08Speaker 11: right on top of a mixer that I have in
- 1:55:10Speaker 11: my office. And I told myself, I gotta grab those.
- 1:55:13Speaker 11: I gotta bring those in for tomorrow. And I freaking
- 1:55:16Speaker 11: forgot idiot, God that he sound terrible. They sounds like
- 1:55:22Speaker 11: I'm underwater. He sounds great, though, I'm sure I saw
- 1:55:24Speaker 11: I always sound always sound good. I'm just saying what
- 1:55:26Speaker 11: I'm hearing in my headphones is I got not up
- 1:55:30Speaker 11: the par I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to bring the
- 1:55:32Speaker 11: great case in for one of our comrades, A little one, gotcha.
- 1:55:36Speaker 11: You know who's been asking for that?
- 1:55:39Speaker 2: That guy? That guy got it?
- 1:55:40Speaker 11: And uh, I walked by it. The man who secretly
- 1:55:44Speaker 11: runs iHeartMedia Sea.
- 1:55:46Speaker 2: Yes, Terry Ryan, I walked by it yesterday before I
- 1:55:49Speaker 2: got in the car to come in here, got home
- 1:55:52Speaker 2: or left. I forgot that, walked through the garage yesterday. Oh,
- 1:55:55Speaker 2: there it is. I'll make sure to bring it tomorrow.
- 1:55:57Speaker 2: I forgot it and then walked by it today? How
- 1:55:59Speaker 2: many times? And mogar, I'll do the same tomorrow about it?
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:56:03Speaker 2: Are you fifty at Travis?
- 1:56:04Speaker 9: Hold?
- 1:56:05Speaker 11: Are you about fifty forty one? Forty one? He's forty
- 1:56:09Speaker 11: one years. You'll get there sooner than later. By the way,
- 1:56:14Speaker 11: how many times do you leave the house? Wonder if
- 1:56:16Speaker 11: you lock the door? And then turn around and go
- 1:56:18Speaker 11: back to check if you lock the door, you do that?
- 1:56:21Speaker 11: Are you doing that thing yet? By the way, it's
- 1:56:23Speaker 11: not the door. It's my car at night. Okay, gotcha, gotcha?
- 1:56:26Speaker 11: But your your current night. You can just you know,
- 1:56:28Speaker 11: bleep it from inside the house. But I still I
- 1:56:30Speaker 11: still have to do well. I'm telling you that I
- 1:56:32Speaker 11: went out and I literally got rid of the entire
- 1:56:34Speaker 11: dead bolt, the whole lock, and bought one of those keypad.
- 1:56:39Speaker 2: Just so I can check it from my phone. Right,
- 1:56:41Speaker 2: and I'm looking at my phone, it says the door.
- 1:56:44Speaker 11: That's you're not worried about driving home anymore. I think
- 1:56:47Speaker 11: that that's like a tick or something, right, just like
- 1:56:49Speaker 11: a word for that. There is, you know, OCD for you,
- 1:56:52Speaker 11: it's OCD, sir. There's something else. I think there's another
- 1:56:55Speaker 11: technical medical term for that. Maybe it's just your moron.
- 1:56:58Speaker 11: Maybe that's what it is. I got no idea. I'm truggle,
- 1:57:00Speaker 11: but I would, dude, I would literally get like to
- 1:57:02Speaker 11: the airport you live in Des Moines and I turn.
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: Around to home. That's like, what the hell's wrong with me?
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: Sometimes I do it two or three times, don't you
- 1:57:09Speaker 2: know A neighbor drive around. Yeah, but they're all working,
- 1:57:11Speaker 2: they're all gone, see them. Most my neighbors working home.
- 1:57:14Speaker 11: Now I got the app. Now I can just lock
- 1:57:15Speaker 11: it on my phone. It's freaking beautiful. And they should
- 1:57:18Speaker 11: market these things to ocd imbeciles like me.
- 1:57:21Speaker 2: I'm gonna say nine times out of ten, when Tammy
- 1:57:23Speaker 2: and I go somewhere, she'll ask me to we close
- 1:57:26Speaker 2: the garage door, to lock the door.
- 1:57:29Speaker 8: The door.
- 1:57:30Speaker 2: I go, well, yeah, she goes, are you sure? I'm
- 1:57:33Speaker 2: pretty sure? I said, well you're pretty sure? You're not
- 1:57:34Speaker 2: really sure? Well, you guys have a dog, right, No,
- 1:57:37Speaker 2: you don't anymore. I'm sorry. Little Molly died. Okay, really
- 1:57:39Speaker 2: three years ago? When did that happen? Three years ago?
- 1:57:41Speaker 2: I thought about getting a new one. No, you're not
- 1:57:43Speaker 2: doing that. For one second. Well, we got three, so
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: if you want one of them, just ok.
- 1:57:48Speaker 11: But sometimes I will forget to bring the dogs inside
- 1:57:52Speaker 11: and they'll be in the garage they have a little
- 1:57:54Speaker 11: doggy door.
- 1:57:55Speaker 2: Then go out and you know what will wake me
- 1:57:57Speaker 2: up as one of them parking their ass off. So
- 1:58:00Speaker 2: it's two neighbors.
- 1:58:01Speaker 3: Love.
- 1:58:02Speaker 11: If I had kids, i'd be arrested, all right. If
- 1:58:05Speaker 11: I had kids. There's no way I'd be reported to
- 1:58:09Speaker 11: some service, some organization. The dog if I take the
- 1:58:12Speaker 11: dog from you, like just like you know what happens,
- 1:58:15Speaker 11: I'd lose a wife.
- 1:58:17Speaker 2: Well, dog's knocking a bitch. Yeah, you can tell you
- 1:58:24Speaker 2: that right now? All right? Is the dog is your
- 1:58:26Speaker 2: Is your wife gonna lick your face the way the
- 1:58:28Speaker 2: dog will not anymore? That's my whole point, man.
- 1:58:34Speaker 11: How many guys out there would trade their wives in
- 1:58:36Speaker 11: for a dog right now? Four nine four one text,
- 1:58:39Speaker 11: I'm not doing that, Morgant. So you're forty one? How
- 1:58:42Speaker 11: about that forty one?
- 1:58:44Speaker 2: So let's go back in time. Okay, when when you
- 1:58:46Speaker 2: first got here and you were doing the Dave Softy
- 1:58:49Speaker 2: Mallar Comcast sports Net show. Right, how old were you?
- 1:58:54Speaker 4: It was twenty years ago, twenty ish, that was your
- 1:58:57Speaker 4: early twenties.
- 1:58:59Speaker 2: You just passed it looking for that. Can you turn
- 1:59:01Speaker 2: this thing up in here? Do you know how to
- 1:59:02Speaker 2: do that thing?
- 1:59:03Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:59:06Speaker 2: One, yeah, very much. That's still good.
- 1:59:08Speaker 11: So did you work with did you work with m Yeah? Okay,
- 1:59:13Speaker 11: we were close. Okay, by the way, made contact with her.
- 1:59:16Speaker 11: She said hello, yeah, oh she said alone? What else
- 1:59:19Speaker 11: did she say? I can't tell you. You can show
- 1:59:21Speaker 11: me off. There she's doing she's doing okay, though, she's
- 1:59:25Speaker 11: doing good. You know who's you know, the concerned Rassini
- 1:59:28Speaker 11: fans out. Yeah, you know who's going to benefit from that?
- 1:59:31Speaker 11: Tom Peliser, barstool, No, Tom pell at jillion dollars in
- 1:59:35Speaker 11: the air and tell her story.
- 1:59:36Speaker 2: That's that's Peliser was gonna take that job. Yeah, at
- 1:59:39Speaker 2: the Athletic. I mean, that's that's a He was a
- 1:59:41Speaker 2: writer anyway, and all of a sudden he's an insight
- 1:59:43Speaker 2: like it's it's the well g'z black Tuesday at ESPN, right,
- 1:59:46Speaker 2: Holy moly.
- 1:59:47Speaker 11: And so they bought the NFL network right in exchange
- 1:59:50Speaker 11: for an equity stake for the The NFL owns ten
- 1:59:53Speaker 11: percent of ESPN. Correct, Okay, And so how influential will
- 1:59:57Speaker 11: they be when it comes to what they say?
- 2:00:00Speaker 2: There's no stories they cover, there's no separation of church
- 2:00:02Speaker 2: and state. Yeah, none, none, it's none of that exists anymore.
- 2:00:06Speaker 2: So North Korea is going, God, that's shady, damn older.
- 2:00:12Speaker 2: You're forty one, Yeah, you're old, man.
- 2:00:14Speaker 3: Jeez.
- 2:00:14Speaker 11: Look at his hair though, man, God, that's not that.
- 2:00:16Speaker 11: That is not the hair I got gray everywhere. That
- 2:00:19Speaker 11: is unbelievable because you have kids. Well, yeah, I see
- 2:00:22Speaker 11: what happens.
- 2:00:23Speaker 2: He's got so he doesn't have a great question. Is
- 2:00:25Speaker 2: this When you cut your hair, does the grey go away?
- 2:00:27Speaker 7: No?
- 2:00:28Speaker 2: Okay, see that did for me for a while. It
- 2:00:30Speaker 2: went away and now it's still there.
- 2:00:32Speaker 11: When I got a haircut and I go I go cut,
- 2:00:34Speaker 11: I go like one, one and a half, sometimes zero
- 2:00:37Speaker 11: and gray, but it's there right there.
- 2:00:41Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. It's not just gray there by the
- 2:00:43Speaker 2: way either.
- 2:00:45Speaker 11: On that note, what's on the show today, Dad? What's
- 2:00:49Speaker 11: today is today Tuesday? John Wilner is going to join
- 2:00:52Speaker 11: us on the radio show Big ten Media Days next
- 2:00:55Speaker 11: week about that. So we'll get to some thoughts somewhere.
- 2:00:57Speaker 11: The Big Ten's going for football this talk about the
- 2:01:00Speaker 11: SEC breaking away from the NC double a chat about
- 2:01:04Speaker 11: that with a Big ten expand if the SEC does that,
- 2:01:07Speaker 11: John Wilner, Dick is back. We have Dick back today.
- 2:01:10Speaker 11: Little fun with audio as well coming up. And I
- 2:01:13Speaker 11: think we're gonna hear from the new Mariner third baseman
- 2:01:15Speaker 11: they signed him, Ace Reese. How'd you like to walk
- 2:01:18Speaker 11: around Starkville, Mississippi with the name Ace Reese?
- 2:01:23Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
- 2:01:24Speaker 11: Shouldn't he have been the quarterback for the football team
- 2:01:26Speaker 11: abs a freaking lately?
- 2:01:27Speaker 2: Should me the quarterback? Hey, honey, I'm ace reech. What
- 2:01:31Speaker 2: are you doing to that? Are you kidding me?
- 2:01:33Speaker 5: My god?
- 2:01:34Speaker 2: He's my hero.
- 2:01:36Speaker 11: He hasn't taken him freaking out bat and I love
- 2:01:38Speaker 11: a guy all right. He's on today too. No, we're
- 2:01:40Speaker 11: gonna hear from that. He had a little little media
- 2:01:42Speaker 11: scrum down there from him. They wouldn't put him on one,
- 2:01:44Speaker 11: that's what he had.
- 2:01:47Speaker 2: He was great. Did you hear of his take on
- 2:01:48Speaker 2: Dan Wilson today? What did you think? I thought? I
- 2:01:52Speaker 2: thought I wouldn't expect him say anything.
- 2:01:53Speaker 11: Different, But yeah, what if he came on the air
- 2:01:56Speaker 11: and said, you know what if I should agree with shots?
- 2:01:58Speaker 11: I said, the guy should be whacked tomorrow. He's a bum.
- 2:02:01Speaker 11: He hasn't brought anything to the table whatsoever. I can't
- 2:02:04Speaker 11: believe we hired him. Man be great radio?
- 2:02:07Speaker 6: All right?
- 2:02:08Speaker 2: I see for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.
- 2:02:13Speaker 2: This is paddle day saying so long everyone