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NFL Week 5 REACTION: 49ers-Seahawks, Lions-Cardinals, Eagles-Jaguars, Vikings, Packers, Deion Sanders · The Richard Sherman Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman podcast, and this was
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: the week we've been waiting on for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: We finally got the matchup between the Seattle Seahawks and
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  Speaker 1: the San Francisco 49ers, the Sherman Bowl, and it was everything.
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  Speaker 2: That I thought it would be. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about all the other games.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about your Detroit Lions putting the shellacking on
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about... A lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, we got to get right to this
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  Speaker 1: game because these two defenses played outstanding football, Mitchell. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: Mitchell, what did you think of the game?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Richard, we'll stick in this NFC West with you,
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  Speaker 3: the Sherman Bowl, the San Francisco 49ers teeing off against
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks. And you called it, my friend. Coming
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  Speaker 3: to this game, I challenged you to finally pick a winner.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe you had the San Francisco 49ers by
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  Speaker 3: three points. And here we are. Winners by three points.
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  Speaker 3: We saw it. All-game adversity, right? I mean, before the half,
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  Speaker 3: absolute momentum shifter. Grayson Halton, scoop and score, forcing the
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  Speaker 3: fumble on George Helani at the end zone. Richard, this
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  Speaker 3: game could have gone either way. How did the San
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  Speaker 3: Francisco 49ers pull this one off?
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  Speaker 1: It was a defensive masterpiece by both sides. I know
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald is frustrated that they lost, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you could have expected them to play much better.
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  Speaker 1: And this is from every level of the defense. They
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  Speaker 1: played great coverage. I'm sure you could argue that Josh
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  Speaker 1: Joe on Mike Evans could have done better, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about that later in the show because I want
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about a bit of the rigidity of this
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: defense because you're playing a corner defense $ 35 million. You're
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  Speaker 1: paying a corner $ 35 million. And if you're having trouble
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: stopping a guy and you're paying a corner $ 35 million,
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  Speaker 1: usually those two guys match up at some point because
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  Speaker 1: when you're having this kind of issue. People can say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, you didn't match up with guys. If there
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: was a corner struggling like this, then the coach would
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  Speaker 1: eventually say, hey, Sherman, go get him. Figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get this figured out until we get to the
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  Speaker 1: next drive and we'll be fine. And that's what would
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  Speaker 1: have happened. but I don't think that's possible with the
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  Speaker 1: way this defensive structure is. Not that Josh Jobe couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get it done, but he has to stay inside in
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  Speaker 1: some capacity unless his base downs and then he moves outside,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the issue a little bit where you have
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  Speaker 1: such a great player like Witherspoon and Emin War and
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  Speaker 1: those guys, but you couldn't put them on Mike Evans
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  Speaker 1: in this defense. They can't schematically change that many moving parts,
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  Speaker 1: and But I want to talk about these defenses. I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about what happened in this game. First off,
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  Speaker 1: they started off playing great defenses. The only reason these
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  Speaker 1: offenses scored in the first and second half until the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter was because these defenses set them up to score.
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  Speaker 1: The first one was Jacob Cowling muffing a punt, muffed punt,
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  Speaker 1: sets the Seahawks up for their first touchdown. Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 1: throws a pick to Jackson Smith and Jigba. Renardo Green
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  Speaker 1: reads it on the out route. This isn't tips and overthrows.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't luck. This is a guy who did his homework,
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  Speaker 1: read his indicators, and made an incredible play. And then
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: we got to talk about the defensive line for the
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers because all week I kind of tried
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  Speaker 1: to get people to understand this defense has been playing
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  Speaker 1: great football. And they're like, oh, that's fake. They've just
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  Speaker 1: been playing against this team and this team. And these
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  Speaker 1: teams stink. Do they stink now? Do you get it now?
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  Speaker 1: Do you see it? These guys are playing. Grayson Halton,
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  Speaker 1: with the breakout game that he had, the rookie fourth-round pick.
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  Speaker 1: He's been making a few splash plays here and there,
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  Speaker 1: but gets his first sack of his career in this
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  Speaker 1: game and then makes the biggest play of his NFL career,
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  Speaker 1: very short NFL career, near the end of the half
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  Speaker 1: with only a few seconds on the clock. I mean, Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: some people had already stopped watching the game and went
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  Speaker 1: to go get their popcorn and go get their food
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  Speaker 1: and take their beer break or whatever they do during halftime.
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  Speaker 1: And he makes one of the biggest plays in the
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  Speaker 1: game and really– with the point differential, the way it was,
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  Speaker 1: it was a huge deciding factor and a momentum shifter
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  Speaker 1: in this game, because I thought the Seahawks had kind
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  Speaker 1: of climbed back in, kind of pulled the momentum back
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  Speaker 1: to at least even. And then he makes a play
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  Speaker 1: on the goal line. And I know the outside world
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  Speaker 1: hindsight is 2020. Mike should have just kneeled the ball.
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  Speaker 1: No teams do that. No teams do that. And no
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  Speaker 1: teams are expecting this to happen. This, this, This is
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  Speaker 1: a one in a hundred thousand. It may not be
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  Speaker 1: one in a million, one in a billion, but it's
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  Speaker 1: one in a hundred thousand play. It rarely happens. And
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  Speaker 1: if you kneel the ball, it just doesn't end up
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  Speaker 1: working out. You know, everybody has all the answers when
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  Speaker 1: you're not calling the play because something bad happens. Just
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  Speaker 1: because something bad happens doesn't mean.
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  Speaker 2: It was the wrong call.
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  Speaker 1: George Helani has to hold on to the football. But
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  Speaker 1: give Grayson Halton a lot of credit. and give Fred
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  Speaker 1: Warner a lot of credit. These were forced fumbles. These
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  Speaker 1: weren't guys dropping the football. These weren't guys just bobbling it.
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  Speaker 1: These were forced fumbles. Fred Warner punched it. Grayson Halton
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  Speaker 1: pulled it out. Now, George Helani had another fumble in
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  Speaker 1: the game where he just dropped the ball. It looked
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  Speaker 1: like it got punched by Casper, the friendly ghost. But
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  Speaker 1: that was my concern. This running back room, and it's
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  Speaker 1: still a concern, is a huge weakness. Now, at some point,
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  Speaker 1: you expect that they'll get Sharpenay back, and they'll lean
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  Speaker 1: on him a little bit more. There's a reason they're
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: trying to sign running backs, but this is a huge issue,
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  Speaker 1: and it showed up in a big way. Those turnovers
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  Speaker 1: were the difference in the game, I mean, on top
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  Speaker 1: of the interceptions. But the Seattle Seahawks defense never wavered.
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  Speaker 2: They never blinked.
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  Speaker 1: They kept giving their offense opportunity after opportunity. They kept
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  Speaker 1: shutting them down. multiple turnovers in the second half. They
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  Speaker 1: took one from Debo Samuel when he kind of just
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  Speaker 1: dropped the ball on the end around.
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  Speaker 2: They picked off Brock Purdy.
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  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Pritchett made a great play on Brock Purdy, set
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  Speaker 1: him up in scoring position, and then they held. Both
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  Speaker 1: teams showing their championship medal. These are the Super Bowl champs,
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  Speaker 1: the reigning Super Bowl champs. They're going to make plays
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  Speaker 1: to put their team in position. They're going to force,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to wield their way. The reigning offensive player
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  Speaker 1: of the year, Jackson Smith and Jigba, made plays with
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: his ankle, a little banged up in the game. When
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  Speaker 1: they had to have it, he was making play after
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  Speaker 1: play after play to get his team back in this game.
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  Speaker 1: And the unfortunate part is that the only thing that
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  Speaker 1: will be remembered is Jackson Smith and Jigba dropping that
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  Speaker 1: third and 10 pass when he was wide open on
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  Speaker 1: that seven cut. And that's just, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to say about that. That's just uncharacteristic. That's
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  Speaker 1: just a bad bounce. That's just a bad beat. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's a great player with some of the most sure hands,
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  Speaker 1: but this is the NFL. Things like that happen sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: but that was a huge factor in the game. And
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  Speaker 1: you got to give the San Francisco 49ers defense credit
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  Speaker 1: because during those sudden changes, they were able to hold.
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  Speaker 1: They were able to force field goals, and that's what allowed–
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  Speaker 1: them to be in position to set up Brock Purdy
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  Speaker 1: to be able to drive down the field with Mike Evans.
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  Speaker 1: This is why you bring a guy like Mike Evans
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  Speaker 1: in if you're the San Francisco 49ers. You talk about
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  Speaker 1: a true number one receiver. Everybody arguing in the offseason, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's over the hill.
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  Speaker 2: He's this. He's that. He's old.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to let you know something. Have you ever
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: seen old carnivores, Mitchell, like an old T-Rex, an old lion,
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  Speaker 1: an old tiger? Would you ever want to be locked
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  Speaker 1: in a cage with a Mitchell? Because I don't care
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  Speaker 1: how old they are. Those teeth are still sharp. They
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  Speaker 1: still know how to do what they do. They still
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  Speaker 1: know how to hunt and eat. And Mike Evans is
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  Speaker 1: one of the all-time greats in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: He's a big play threat. He's a mismatch anytime he's
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  Speaker 1: on the field. And I love that Brock Purdy was
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  Speaker 1: put in a position where he did not have a
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  Speaker 1: choice but to throw him the football. Like, I think
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: that's what it was going to take for Brock to
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  Speaker 1: finally understand who Mike Evans is. Like, when he does
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  Speaker 1: not have a choice, he has to third down, third
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  Speaker 1: and ten or whatever it was, Hey, Mike Evans is one-on-one.
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  Speaker 1: He looks covered, but you got to throw it. And
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  Speaker 1: he threw it and he saw Mike Evans win. And
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  Speaker 1: then he threw the two point conversion. Hey, scrambling around,
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  Speaker 1: running around. Everybody's covered. Mike's covered too, but then he
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  Speaker 1: throws it. And Mike Evans makes the play and you
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  Speaker 1: got to give you, you got to start to do that.
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  Speaker 2: You got to feed him. He needs 10 targets a game.
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  Speaker 1: I think in order for him to really be show who,
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  Speaker 1: what he's capable of and how much of an asset
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  Speaker 1: he can be for this team. Uh, Christian McCaffrey was
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  Speaker 1: able to get some yardage on the ground. 11 carries
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  Speaker 1: for 68 yards. George Kittle didn't do a ton. He
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  Speaker 1: had a 13-yard catch. Brandon Cooks gets in the end zone,
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  Speaker 1: a critical touchdown after the timeout call, the timeout, last-second
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  Speaker 1: timeout after they threw him a touchdown pass. They turn around,
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  Speaker 1: and Brock Purdy throws him a touchdown pass. Fred Warner
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  Speaker 1: had a great game. The battle of these two linebacker
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  Speaker 1: groups was an underrated storyline in this game. Fred Warner
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  Speaker 1: and Drake Greenlaw, Drake Thomas and Ernest Jones. And Ernest
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  Speaker 1: Jones made a critical play, Mitchell, and he wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: on the field. He made a critical play. And I
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  Speaker 1: know if you're a San Francisco 49ers fan, you're up
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  Speaker 1: in arms.
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  Speaker 2: He shouldn't be in his face. Yes, he should. He
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  Speaker 2: on the sideline. It's the game within the game.
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  Speaker 1: And if the jersey numbers and the jersey colors were
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  Speaker 1: swapped and it was your team did it, you would
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  Speaker 1: have called it a great play because that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Great job by Ernest Jones. Being a heady player and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: everything is elevated. Everything is heated. Let me heat it
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit more and see if we can
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  Speaker 1: get a little bit more out of this. See if
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  Speaker 1: we can squeeze a little bit more juice out of it.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: And he got one of San Francisco 49ers' best players
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  Speaker 1: ejected from the game while he was on the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, he drew a little blow.
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  Speaker 1: Now. He drew a little blood. He's a sacrifice. But
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: on the flip side, Drake Greenlaw, my guy, that's my guy.
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  Speaker 1: I was there winning the rookie. We went to a
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, that huge play he made in Seattle to
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: win the game for us and get us the number
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  Speaker 1: one seed. That season, he knows better. He knows better.
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  Speaker 1: And Kyle, thank goodness they rallied around him. After that,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: it was another sack by, I think, Valdez and a
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  Speaker 1: sack by Adigizua to kind of rally behind him.
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  Speaker 2: And they didn't allow that.
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  Speaker 1: To turn into a back-breaking moment for the San Francisco 49ers.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Ernest Jones deserves a lot of credit
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  Speaker 1: for just being a heady player. Mitchell, there are so
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  Speaker 1: many instances, so many things like that where the tides
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  Speaker 1: change in a game where you don't really understand.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, man, he shouldn't get in the guy's face. Yes,
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: he should. All is fair.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: If he's within the rules, he's on his sideline, he's
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: not breaking any rules, he's not doing anything, he can
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  Speaker 1: do it. If you react a certain way, that's on you.
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  Speaker 1: And another MVP of this game I want to give,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Evans. Mike Evans, you know, and I love Trey Diggs.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Trey Diggs is a friend of mine, a good dude.
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  Speaker 1: But that time, when he walked over and pulled and
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  Speaker 1: looked at his name on the back.
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  Speaker 2: Of the jersey... Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: I was in tears, and I wanted to go back,
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I wish I had a time
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  Speaker 1: machine because next time I got into a confrontation on
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  Speaker 1: the field, I just walk up to the guy and
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  Speaker 1: look at the back of his jersey like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to say anything. That says it all. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who you are, and you're on my field talking
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  Speaker 1: to me. I'm trying to figure out what you think
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be. And Mike Evans tries to
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: play it off later and says, oh, you know, trade day.
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  Speaker 1: Because Mike Evans is actually a really, really cool dude
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  Speaker 1: on the field. That's going to be an all-time moment,
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  Speaker 1: no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: He pulled one from you, Richard. There's no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see that very often from Mike Evans. And
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: like you talked about, this has totally transformed this offense.
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  Speaker 3: It's given Brock Purdy that number one reliable wide receiving
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  Speaker 3: option that he frankly has never had outside of George Kittle.
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  Speaker 3: This team, I mean, what one season difference can make
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: for a team? The last time they were in Lumen Field,
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  Speaker 3: they got beat 41-6. And here they are knocking off
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  Speaker 3: the defending Super Bowl champions. the 32 to 29. Richard,
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  Speaker 3: what's the ceiling for this team? They look like they're
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  Speaker 3: borderline unbeatable right now. I got to believe they're Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl favorites. I mean, call me down here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the ceiling is because we
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: haven't seen this team fully healthy. I mean, in this game,
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: another huge factor in this game was the terrible officiating.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: I thought this was one of the worst officiated games.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of the calls were went against the Niners,
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  Speaker 1: and there was an intentional grounding where Brock Purdy, I
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: thought it was going to, you know, you're going to
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: rule it a fumble, but the tight end recovers it,
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  Speaker 1: and then they say it's intentional grounding when the tight
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: end's right there. I thought that was a crazy call.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: I thought there were a number of bad calls that
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: went against the San Francisco 49ers, but at the end
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: of that game, on fourth and ten, Cooper Cupp breaks
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: a tackle, goes down the sideline, kind of tiptoes the sideline,
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  Speaker 1: reaches for the first down, and it looked like he
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  Speaker 1: got it. In my eyes, it looked like he got that,
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  Speaker 1: and The ref calls him down. It looked like he
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  Speaker 1: stepped out. That's what the ref called. You go back
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: to the replay. He did not step out. Now, you
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: can't see where the plane is. I don't think they
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: had a good enough angle to see, hey, where does
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  Speaker 1: the ball cross the plane? They would have needed a
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: top angle right over the top to see where his
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: body crossed the line with the ball, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: And they didn't have that angle, so they couldn't overturn
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  Speaker 1: the field. But I thought that was a bad call.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think you ever leave it in the ref's
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  Speaker 1: hands in that situation. I think if Jackson Smith and
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Jigba catches that seven cut, we never get to this
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  Speaker 1: situation where there's a controversial call.
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  Speaker 2: But there was.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the ceiling is for this team.
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  Speaker 1: But when they get healthy, when they get Demarcus Robinson back,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: when they get Stribling back, when they get Nicholas John Bolson,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: think about a reigning defensive player of the year just sitting,
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: healing up while you go 5-0. While you're D-line, that
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: has to be a scary proposition for both teams. You've
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: got to think, Sam Darnold didn't play his best football
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  Speaker 1: in this game, and they still had a great chance
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  Speaker 1: to win. So if you're the 49ers, you've got to say, hey,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: there's some meat on the bone on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: This team is a great team, and they had a
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: chance to win this game. They had opportunities. Regardless of
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: how well that defense played, they still had opportunities. But
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: if you're the Seattle Seahawks, and you're watching this game,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: and you're saying, hey, their best defensive lineman, is Nicholas
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: John Bolsa, and he wasn't on the field, and they
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: sacked us five times. I don't think before this game
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: you could have named, I don't think anybody on the Seahawks,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: if you're a fan, would have named the five guys
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: that got sacks in this game, outside of Adigie Zua probably,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you know. And that's the great thing. I think the
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: growth of this defensive line, the maturity, guys starting to
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: develop into issues, guys starting to shine, with in the
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: absence of Nicholas John Bosa is only going to bolster
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: them more when he returns, give a lot of credit
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: to Mustafa and Jair Brown too.
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  Speaker 2: They played really well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when there was, there was a couple of
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: plays early on where Mustafa was a missile and coming
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: downhill and just really setting the tone, setting the tempo
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: time and time again, he was doing that. And I
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: think he deserves a ton of credit. Uh, Jaden Duggar
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: came in there, made some plays, had a sack of
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: this game as well. Uh, I thought he played admirably.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: You could tell he's not playing as fast as Ray
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Greenlaw's playing. He's still figuring it out. But I think
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: he went in there and held it down as best
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  Speaker 1: he could. Again, another really solid game for the 49ers
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: offensive line. I knew they would give up sacks in
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: this game just because you got Byron Murphy. Byron Murphy
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: is earning himself a $ 30 million contract, Mitchell. Whether it's
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: here or somewhere else, Byron Murphy is going to get paid.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: He was unblockable in the first half, in the second half.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: They're double teaming him. And I knew that, hey, you
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: don't just forget things year to year. Like certain things
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: carry over. And Byron Murphy and his defensive line carries over.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: He was causing problems. And you can tell the offense
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: was sitting back, getting ready for him to bull rush.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: And all he was doing was attacking edges. And that's
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the game within a game. We're not going to go
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: too deep into that. But he was a huge factor
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. And that's another positive sign. from this game,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: a guy that could be dominant at times. And I
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him continue that. I knew this
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: game would be electric, and it lived up to all
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: the billing. Seven turnovers between both of these defenses and
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: a spectacular ending.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the next one.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit more about the Seattle Seahawks.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: This team is 1-2 in their last three games. This
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: is not something the Seattle 12s are used to, and
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that's losing. What's the panic meter like in Seattle right now?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: They've been unable to establish a run game. The Kenneth
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Walker absence is glaring. And they tried to establish it today,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: given Emmanuel Wilson, 20 carries, netting 61 yards. If you're
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: in Seattle, which you are, Richard, what's the panic meter at?
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It's not very high for me.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Some things I'm concerned about are early turnovers by Sam Darnold,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: multiple interceptions on plays where it looked like You know, the.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Play to Arroyo, I thought Arroyo.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Had a step. You got to hit him on time.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You got to get it there. He wasn't able to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: do that. The other interception, you kind of got to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: eat that football or figure out somewhere else to go
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: with it. Renardo Green had a great break on it.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: You got to just accept that, hey, no matter what,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: this is my best receiver. He's a guy, but we
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: don't have it right here, and you got to eat that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And I think Sam has that maturity to understand that,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to see the film and improve. The run game lacking
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and continuing to lack. And I know Emmanuel Wilson had
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a couple, you know, he had a couple plays in
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the red zone. I saw he had a lane and
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: he did okay with that. But overall, the overall run
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: game and the ideas behind it, you know, was limited today.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And you got to give San Francisco a lot of
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: credit for that. But I think they got to find
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: another back or get Sharpen A back in there. I
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: think they have to find ways to open that up more.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I like that they were trying to attack with Shahid
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: down the field. I think I would love to see
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: more of that. getting Barner involved, A.J. Barner more involved
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in the game. I would love to see more of that. But, no,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: my panic meter isn't high. Mitchell Adetian is probably a four.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Still, the Seattle Seahawks team, man, they've been so dominant
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: over the last couple years. They've got to find their
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: groove here. They'll get an opportunity next Thursday, a game
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you'll be at in Denver. We'll see if they can
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: shake off these losing ways over the last couple weeks.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Arizona. I've been itching to talk about
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: my team, the Detroit Lions. Nervous coming into this game, admittedly.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: At 2-2, this is not the start of the season
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: that us Detroit Lions fans expected. And, you know, you
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: saw the Carolina Panthers on the schedule and you thought, okay,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: that's more than likely a win. Until you get diced
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: up by Bryce Love. And this defense looked like Swiss
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: cheese out there. Holes everywhere. Kelvin Shepard was very vocal
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and animated in his press conference this week, talking about
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: his defense, saying that it was the right calls, that
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: they just need to execute a little bit better. We
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: saw a change today. We didn't see as much of
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: a blitz-heavy focus. We saw dropping more guys back into coverage,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and it seemed to work. Granted, their play against Arizona,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions looked like the Detroit Lions of two
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: years ago, dominating this game. That being said, could not
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: score in the first quarter. Again, scoring 24 points in
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the second quarter alone to get them started. And then
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: we see Jameer Gibbs rush for his 58th or score
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: his 58th touchdown, passing Barry Sanders for most total touchdowns
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: before the age of 25. The Lions certainly have a
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: good one here. Richard, take my bias out of this, please,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: because in my eyes, the Lions are back. They're going
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: into the bye week. They look better. What do you
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: see from this team, this improvement this week? Is it
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: more of the opponent or do you think schematically there
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: are changes that you like?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Both, both, both are true. I think there are changes
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that I like schematically. I think guys are in better position.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I think guys are coached better, how to melt, how
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to relate to people within their zone. 99, 99% of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the time you're looking at the quarterback every now and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you're glancing to figure out who's in your zone and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: figure that out. I think they, likely went back to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the fundamentals and were able to reemphasize that and say, hey,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: we don't need all this fancy 1,000 calls. We're going
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to play quarters. We're going to play this and do
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: all this sexy stuff. We need to just go back
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to the basics, run the basics, and master them. And
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: we'll let our front rush. They sacked Jacoby Brissett five
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: times in this game, still had the success they needed
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: while playing really solid football on the back end.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I think this is something they can build on.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a disastrous press conference when Kelvin
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Shepard said all that because You start to wonder who
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: he's throwing under the bus there. But his team responded
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in a big way, and you got to respect that.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I think everybody can respect that. This offense, 45 points
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: in the game, phenomenal game, no question about that. But
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I think, obviously, you're impressed with how this defense stood up,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: especially early on. They ended up giving up 21 points,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: but the game was out of hand at that point. And,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you know, they were mostly in prevent. Jameer Gibbs, 58 touchdowns,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: passing Barry Sanders for most of all time. is incredible
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: before turning 25. I mean, the sky's the limit for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that guy. You guys are blessed to have him. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he's a guy that's one of the best at his
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: position in the National Football League, and that's really impressive.
• 21:45
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• 21:48
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• 21:53
  Speaker 3: In the past, if you wanted action on the game,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you put some money in. And if your team was
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: doing well and you wanted to cash out, They'd lock
• 22:01
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• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But Polymarket is a prediction market. It's a stock exchange
• 22:08
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• 22:13
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• 22:22
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• 22:32
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• 22:36
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• 22:38
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• 22:40
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• 22:43
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• 22:49
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• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to Whatnot. Man, I found a pair of Kobe Grinches
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: in my size, Mitchell. mint condition original box i've been
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: looking for.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: A pair of these for years.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: And you haven't stopped talking about them you've been talking
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: about them before they even arrived.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Because they take me back to my childhood era man
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: rip the bean mitchell Any chance I get to just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: remember the bean and have something that he wore, it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: means something to me, Mitchell. It means something to me.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I use Whatnot to find sneakers and sports memorabilia to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: actually fit in my collection.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Speaking of sports memorabilia, I went the sports memorabilia route.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I found a signed Barry Sanders jersey. Richard, it brought
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: me back to my youth. I found it on Whatnot.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Seeing the actual item live made it super easy. The
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: seller showed the autograph, the condition, and every detail on
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: camera before I bought it.
• 23:52
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• 23:55
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• 23:59
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• 24:03
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• 24:09
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• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I use Whatnot, and I've told my friends to check
• 24:12
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• 24:15
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• 24:16
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• 24:20
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• 24:25
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• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Terms apply.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: And what a crazy start to the Sunday morning, Richard.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: 6.30 a.m. Pacific time. I know you were up and
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: at it watching the Jaguars take on the Eagles in London.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And boy, did that fan base in London get a show.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: What looked like a walk-off Eagles win quickly turned to
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: a walk-off Jaguars win. Richard, simply put, how the heck
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: does this happen?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: That was one of the most bizarre games, especially near
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, but throughout the game, there were so many
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: bizarre moments. You think about right before the half ended,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: all the Jacksonville mistakes. Was it a fumble? Was it
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: not a fumble? Then they get the ball back, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: then they cannot convert. They end up getting zero points
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: before the half when they could have at least had three.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And there were a number of red zone trips that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: just really had you scratching your head. There was a trip.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: They were at the, I think it was the two-yard line,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And then Trevor Lawrence gets two delay a game penalties
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that knocks them back almost all the way to like
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the 15-yard line. And you're like, okay. And again, they
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: end up not converting. But when they had to have it,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence puts a pass up on fourth down to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington, who makes a one-handed grab over to Reek
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Woolen to what appeared to be seal this game. But
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It was not to be, Mitchell. Cam Little misses the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: extra point, which only leaves the Jacksonville Jaguars up two.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia goes down the field. Jake Elliott hits a 48-yarder
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: with eight seconds to go, or 12 seconds remaining in
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the game. And at that point, you think, all right,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's it, that's all. Ladies and gentlemen, get
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to your cars, get to your, Get to your homes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Get ready for the next games. This one's over. Philadelphia fans,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: sigh of relief. The offense was banged up coming into
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: this game. No Saquon Barkley, no Devontae Smith, and they
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: were able to come out with a win. They're big-time players.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, two sacks, forced fumble. Played big in this game.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Quinion Mitchell gets the first regular season interception of his career.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Big play.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Thought the defense played really well against one of the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: most talented receiving cores. I know Trevor Lawrence was 24-39.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: for 331 and two touchdowns but they did get the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: interception they did sack him twice Jalen Carter um but
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: nobody's stopping Parker Washington right now he was sick he
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: had six catches for 124 and two touchdowns uh defensively
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you this opportunistic Jacksonville defense did not was not able
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to get a turnover uh on Jalen Hurts in this
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: game they they really did a great job um just
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: containing them. They held them to, I want to say,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: 22 overall rushing yards as a team. They held the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Eagles to 22 yards rushing as a team. And that's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: an incredible stat. That's an incredible day. You never hear
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: about an NFL team being held that well in check.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But Jacksonville's red zone struggles, I thought, would doom them today.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: They were 0-3 in the red zone. We talked about
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: their struggles. But Weren't we just talking about Amir Abdullah?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: We were. Weren't we just talking about him?
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And you were like, man, how is he still in
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the league? Mitchell, this is how he's still in the league.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: It's wild.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: It's really wild.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: When they needed to have it, Amir Abdullah, with one
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of the biggest kick return moments in his life, I'm sure,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: sets them up for the game-winning field goal, gives Cam
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Little a chance at redemption, and he takes care of business,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: knocks it through, and takes his helmet off, shows so
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: much emotion in London. I'm sure he heard it from
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: those Philadelphia fans all day, especially after that miss, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: he wanted to show them, hey, I'm back. Now y'all
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: go home and talk about me. I respect it. I'm
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a villain, Mitchell.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And just for context, Richard and I were together last week,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and we saw Amir Abdullah got picked up by the Jags,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, how the heck is this Amir Abdullah
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: guy still in the league? I mean, he was with
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: my Detroit Lions. He bounced around the league a long time.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: And then here he is, and Richard simply says because
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: he's a difference maker in key situations. He's slippery. He's
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: a unique skill set to him, and we saw that today.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: But you know what?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: My main takeaway from this game, Richard, I thought the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Jaguars were good. Now I know they are good because
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: they did not play their A ball, and they came
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: out of this game with a win with their backs
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: against the wall in worst-case scenario. A team that can
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: win when they're not playing their best football, to me,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: that's a tip of the cap to the Jaguars. On
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the other side of that football field, the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It looks to me, Richard, like they're punting on the season.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Cam Juergens gets traded. Obviously, Lane Johnson retires. Saquon Barkley's
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: status is pretty much up in the air. They're down
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to Will Shipley and Damian Pearson are still hanging into
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: this game. What's the rest of the season outlook look
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: for the Philadelphia Eagles? I mean, is it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Our playoffs?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: The expectation for this team realistically?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I don't see how playoffs can be a realistic expectation.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Let me reverse that. I do.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Because of how the rest of the league and the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: rest of this division has shaken out. The Cowboys are
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: three and two right now. The commanders and the Giants
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: have battled it out today. You know, the Giants are
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: still leading this division. So it's still, I think it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: still in reach for this team, but they have to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: get some things figured out. I thought Jalen Hurts did
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a really good job today. A solid job. I can't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: say really good. Even he said it's not up to
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: his standard. It's not up to the standard they expect.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: But with a bit of a skeleton crew, and missing, uh,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: right tackle Lane Johnson, who just retired.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Uh, they trade away Cam Juergens.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: These are, these are guys he hadn't gone to battle
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: with before figuring it out. Uh, Makai Lemon, uh, Darius
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Cooper had, had the big catch and run, but a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys haven't, he hasn't played in big games,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: big moments with, and he needs to depend on them today.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So I thought under those circumstances, he did a solid job. Um,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: You know, there were some things said during his press
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: conference that made you feel like maybe he's not trusting
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the play calling, but he's executing it. He's doing his
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: best to execute it. But, you know, I think there
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: may be some doubts to some of the calls they're
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: making and whether he felt like, hey, I could have
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: said something and got us in a better call or
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: help them understand what's really happening out there so that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: we can play better, so we can execute better, so
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: we can push the ball down the field in a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: better way. This was a tough one. This was a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: tough one. This was one of those emotional roller coasters
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that kind of drains the team. They play the Carolina
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Panthers next game, and I know Eagles fans are like, oh,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that's a get-right game.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Be careful.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I know the defense is playing really well. I know
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles defense has played really well. They're always,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio always has this defense ready. But that Carolina
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Panthers offense with Bryce Young, I know what he's been
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: in the past, and he had his struggles. He is
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: striking right now. So be careful because that's not just a,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: easy game. And then the Jags have the Texans who,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: who seem like they kind of found their rhythm against
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the Titans, but it's the Titans. So, uh, I'm not
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: putting any, uh, a ton of, uh, onus on that game,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: but we will see what the Texans are when they
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: face the Jags. If the Jags have their way with them,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: then the Texans are the same team that had been
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: struggling all season, but, uh, they were able to hold, hold, uh,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the Titans in place. Finally play some great defense. I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: felt great about this game. This was, this was my,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: a way to start the weekend.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I agree with you on that. And to add
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: to your point, with the Eagles, if they want to
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: seriously look at the playoffs as their reasonable expectation for
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: this season, the offense is going to have to get
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: it together. We've seen the defense come together of late.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: They certainly gave them an opportunity in this game. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: reality is, through five weeks of this season, the Philadelphia
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Eagles have only scored 24 points twice. The rest of
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: the year, 20 points or sub that, 17-7. These are
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: not numbers that you're going to hang your hat on.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: So a lot of eyes are going to be looking
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: at Jalen Hurts and what can he do? I think
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: he's a good quarterback, Richard, but I wonder if he's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a better athlete than he is a quarterback. Because when
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: you look at him, he's always had stars around him.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: This is the first season we've seen without true star-studded
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: options opposite him. How is he going to be able
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: to elevate those players? I have not seen that yet,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: and that's where questions arise for Philly. I know you
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: still think playoffs are the expectation. I would be surprised
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: if they make it there. The only thing I think
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: they have a fighting chance with is this division looks
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: rather weak. It looks NFC South-ish.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Right. But I'm not ready to write off Jalen Hurst
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: just yet. He's having his struggles, just like a lot
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: of these other quarterbacks have their struggles. They have their
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: peaks and valleys. And, of course, we criticize them when
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they're in a valley. He's without his number one receiver. And, again,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you have to look at it with that lens. He's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: without his number one. He's trying to make it happen.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: And today he almost made it happen with Cooper and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Wicks and Makai Lemon and Dallas Goddard. You know, he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: was almost able to get that done without much semblance
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of a running game at all in this game. And
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's overcoming some things right now. I was
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: impressed with how he played under these circumstances. Now, you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: still got to find a way to win, but he's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: been a winning quarterback. So You have to give him
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that credit. You know, there was some breaking news today
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: about the AFC South. The Houston Texans trade for Marvin
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Harrison Jr. from the Arizona Cardinals. That was a move
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: we expected to happen. I mean, we expected him to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: get traded away. Just looks like he's fell out of
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the good graces. They're using Michael Wilson. They're not finding
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a way to get him into football. It seems like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: he's lost his confidence. A change of scenery would be
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: great for him. on the opposite side of Nico Collins
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: in that receiving core, I think he'd be a great addition,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and that's a great move for that team. I'm looking
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing how that works out. The other game
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: we had today, another early game we had, the Green
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers dismantled the Chicago Bears. In the last few games,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: we've kind of seen the Chicago Bears, and you're like, hey,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's doing a great job. Even without Caleb Williams
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in the fold, he's found a way to do it
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: with Case Keenum and Tyson Bajan.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And this, on this day... Neither had the answers.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And this Green Bay Packer, Jonathan Gannon, coach-led defense, played
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: their best game of the season. They had three interceptions,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: two fumble recoveries, just really, really created chaos out there.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: They sacked Tyson Bajan twice, and they intercepted him twice.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And then they switched to Case Keenum, and they said,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you can get it too. Sacked him twice, intercepted him once.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter who you put out there. It was
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: just their day. And give a lot of credit to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Has dealt with a beat-up offensive line all
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: season long.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And they've kind of, you know, they.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Went to free agency and picked off everybody that has
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: ever started an NFL game in free agency when they
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: picked up. Makai Becton, Lakin Tomlinson. And, you know, they
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: played Lakin last game. And they're having success. Christian Watson
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: had a dominant game. Six catches, 143, two touchdowns, a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: 42-yarder and a 53-yarder. Matthew Golden, 123 yards on six receptions,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: another 50-yard long catch. And everybody was waiting for when
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you were going to see all this speed, all this
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: speed finally break out for Green Bay. When are you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: going to see all these weapons finally start to figure
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it out for Green Bay?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And this was that day. They protect it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love, he was 25 of 31, 367, two touchdowns,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: 137.5 passer ratings, 11.8 yards per attempt, and he was
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: only sacked twice.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: That's a great game. That's a great game.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Devontae Wyatt, two sacks in a game, two TFLs, two
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: quarterback hits, and a forced fumble. Zaire Franklin, he was
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: all over the place, nine combined tackles, a TFL pass deflection.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney had two picks on the day, a great safety,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: one of the best safeties in the National Football League.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: The Packers are doing a great job, and that's the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: way you have to play. When your back's against the wall,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: when things haven't been going well, they're finding a way
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to stack wins against the team. Everybody thought, including us, Mitchell,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: when we put them in the power rankings, I'm not
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: going to let them fool me again. I keep saying
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to let people fool me. Dallas keeps
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: getting me. Cleveland, I mean, Cincinnati's defense got me. Jacksonville
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: got me once, but This is inexcusable. This is inexcusable.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Their defense played a horrid game. And give the Green
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers all the credit in the world, but some
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: of these passes, you've got to be better than this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: You've got to expect, hey, Christian Watson, he's a vertical threat.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Matthew Golden, vertical threat. You know, stay on top of them.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: You know, contain them. But they didn't.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Well, to steal one of your sayings, Richard, we thought
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: this was going to be a matchup. Missed match.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Because.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You look at it, and I don't know what it is,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: these road games in division. I mean, people talk about
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: road divisional games. The Bears are the hot team. Everyone
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: thinks they're the hot team. We thought they were the
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: hot team. We both included them in our power ranks
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: this week. What is it with divisional games? Because this
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: is one of the most high-profile offenses in the NFL,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears. Every other week, with the exception of
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings putting three points on the board, and
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: now against the Packers putting seven points on the board,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: This team just looks like a shell of itself when
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: it plays a divisional opponent on the road. And I
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: know the excuses are going to be coming flying. Caleb
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Williams is out this week.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: They've proven it over the last couple weeks with Tyson
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Bajan and Case Keenum. This offense can still get things moving.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: That was not the case today. The Packers defense was swarming.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Five turnovers forced. Very impressive. And then whenever Jordan Love
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: was in trouble, he heaved the ball downfield. He found
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: his guys, Christian Watson. and Matthew Golden. You've got to
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: love to see this as a Green Bay Packer fan,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: especially after a rough, questionable start to the season. Maybe
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: this is a turning point in their season, a quarter
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: way through. They're about to get Michael Parsons back in
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: the next few weeks. Things are trending upwards for the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. Let's stay in the division. Let's talk
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: about this 5-0 Minnesota Vikings team that took care of
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints and held this offense that has
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: had their way with other opponent's to just 13 points. Richard,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: is it time that we start taking this team seriously?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Is it time that we include them Minnesota Vikings in
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: our top five power rank?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's time. It's time. I have seen enough, Minnesota.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I have seen enough.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: And I know I am as hard on you guys
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: as anyone because of the Sam Darnold debacle. I told
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: you guys, you guys came at me. Don't, you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: we won't revisit that. But Kyler Murray made some really
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: impressive passes today. The most impressive, in my opinion, was
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the corner to end zone pass to Justin Jefferson. Three
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: guys around him had to be.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: You had one spot to put it. He put it there.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, the hometown Louisiana kid, makes the play in
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: New Orleans. They go into a tough environment and come
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: out with a win. Aaron Jones, 25 carries, 113 yards
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and touchdown. The way he ran the safety over on
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: his way to the end zone, just menacing. This defense
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: continues to swarm. create turnovers, really make an impact on
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: each and every game. Minnesota had two turnovers in this game,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and not that they were perfect. I mean, they forced
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: three turnovers, but their offense had two turnovers in this game.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: But Byron Murphy, two interceptions in the game. Andrew Van Gink,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the guys that you expect to have production from continue
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to be productive. It's been incredible to watch this defense.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and the special teams. The special teams has also, whether
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it's in the return game or they forced the fumble
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that led to that Justin Jefferson touchdown that we talked about.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And I know we can talk about, do you really
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: trust this offense? Do you really trust this offense against
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: great teams? It's kind of that New England Patriots last
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: year team where you're like, who are they really playing?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: But they're 5-0, and they're finding a way to win
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: each and every week.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: This defense is real. It's legit.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray looked explosive. He was getting out of trouble.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: He's making plays with his legs, with his arm. He
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: was improvising. I'm sure that Kevin O'Connell is feeling incredible
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: about both sides of the ball. He has a great,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: great coordinator and Brian Flores on the other side who
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: keeps dialing it up. This defense is in rhythm. And
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: sometimes when Brian Flores gets hot in his mad scientist
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: mode and he gets to executing in the way he
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: has this season, you look out. I mean, that's what
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: happened when they had that 14-win season with Sam Darnold.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: That defense was incredible. And all you got to do
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: on the offensive side is be productive. Don't turn the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: ball over. Keep them in these games. Don't let, you know,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: throw too many interceptions and throw the game away. But
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I thought this was a great game. Jonas Sanker for
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the Saints, that 87-yard touchdown return that really, really gave
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: them life in this game when I.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Thought it was over. Huge play.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: It was forced by I want to say Warner and Emerson.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: That was a big play while the Vikings were driving
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: in that game. But at the end of the day,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was efficient. They ran the ball efficiently and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: they played great defense. That's the formula for success in
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: this game. The Vikings continue to find a way to win. Yes,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: they're entering my power rankings. I promise you, Minnesota fans,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: if they won this week, they'd be in there. They
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: will be in there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: And they deserve to be in there. And they're one
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of these unique teams because their defense is dominant. And
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: you just said, I mean, the Saints, the Sanker was
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: a defensive score. So, I mean, this team has given
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: up 22 points week one against the Packers, three points
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: against the vaunted Bears, 16 points against the Buccaneers, 10
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: against the Dolphins, and truly six points offensively against the Saints.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: What makes it so different about this Minnesota Vikings teams?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I know they blitz a lot. They've got the highest
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: blitz percentage in the league, but what makes them truly dominant, Richard?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Because I think there's a very, very fair argument that
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: they are the class of the NFL defensively.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Well, it's the pressure that they put, they force and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: dictate a lot of things for the offense. They dictate
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: where the protection is going to slide by the personnel.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: They put out there. And they blitz a whole lot.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I want to say their blitz rate earlier in the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: season was like 80, almost 80%. And I don't think
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: it's wavered too much off of that and not, there
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: aren't many teams that are, equipped to deal with that
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: on a play-in, play-out basis.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: But why is it so difficult to adapt to as
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: an offense? Because you see quarterbacks being able to adapt
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: on RPO plays, watching for that blitz, swinging it to
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver on his quick slant. How are defenses
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: not able to adapt to Brian Flores' defense? We've seen
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: it year after year. He's always so dominant.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you see it. Because it's personnel as well.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: He has the personnel around him that are executing it
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: at a high level. They understand where the hot reads
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: are for the quarterback. So, you know, you're saying, hey,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the Blitz is coming here. He's going to be hot here. Yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: he's sending somebody over there that also knows he's hot
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: here and what their hot route is, whether it's a hitch,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: a slant, an out, and they're defending it and making
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you go to your next read. And when you're hot,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you don't have time to go to a next read,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: so you have to eat the football. And he's not
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: just doing it on third down. Teams are used to saying, hey,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: what are their third down pressures? What are their pressures?
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It's first down. It's second down. It's run blitzes. It's
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: pass blitzes. You don't know who's blitzing. And then in
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the back end, they play with a lot of confidence.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: They play fast. They communicate well. They've played together for
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a number of years. It's an experienced secondary who is
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: experienced in this system. And when you have all those
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: things together, guys like Dallas Turner, Andrew Van Ginkle, Blake Cashman,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: it works out really, really, really well. He has the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: perfect guys for his system, playing it at a high level.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: And you got to respect that. I hope that Brian
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Flores gets another head coaching opportunity. He's one of the
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: best coordinators in the National Football League and is showing
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: week in and week out.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: He certainly deserves it. And to Minnesota and the Vikings
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: fan base, congratulations and welcome to the top five of
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Richard Sherman's power ranks. And honorable mention also for mine
• 45:29
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• 45:33
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• 45:37
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• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Mitchell, it has to be the great prime time Deion Sanders,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the head coach for the University of Colorado, a guy
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: who's been breaking rules since he came out of the womb,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: as he would say. a guy that played both sides
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of the football and baseball during his NFL career. I
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: think he was the first guy to play in a
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and a World Series game. He's a guy
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that just continued to elevate and break the barriers of
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: what's possible for an athlete to be, and especially a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: defensive player. I think he showed that a defensive player
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: could be the face of a league and could be
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a primetime, exciting, charismatic face of a franchise. And he
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: made an incredible impact during his time. I think he
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: had 53 interceptions, some pump return, special teams touchdowns, some
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. The guy did it all and continues to
• 46:36
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• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Deion Sanders was definitely a rule breaker.
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• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Let's break down the matchup between the Rams and the Bills. Richard,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: going into Monday night, this is an interesting game, a
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: matchup of two juggernauts teams. What do you have as
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: your hottest take coming into this game between Buffalo and
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the LA Rams?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: The Rams may score 40 in this game. That's my
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: hot take. I don't have a lot of respect for
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: this Buffalo Bills defense, and I don't think they've done
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: anything to earn it. Josh Allen, I need to figure
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: out what's going on with Josh Allen. Has been really
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: hesitant to use his legs the last couple games. Does
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: that continue? I think Matthew Stafford has a big game.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe Josh Allen finds his legs again. He makes this
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a game, but I got the Rams winning this one
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: There's some big names on both teams and two MVPs,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford. Which player will be the
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: deciding factor in this game on Monday night?
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Well, honestly, anything with the Buffalo Bills that has to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: do with the Buffalo Bills, everything that decides whether they
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: win or lose starts with number 17 under center. And
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: it's going to continue to be that way. If they win,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it's because he had an incredible day. If they lose,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it's because he did not have the day that he desired.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: There is no middle ground. Like, sure, they have James Cook,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the reigning, leading rusher in the National Football League. He's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: an explosive player who can take over a game, no
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: question about that. I don't think the Rams are just
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: going to allow him to run for 250 yards or
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: anything like that. I think it's going to be up
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: to Josh Allen to find a way to beat this thing.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Richard, if I had to put you in two categories,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the first one would be ball knower. I think you've
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: exemplified that over the course of your career. The second
• 48:55
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• 48:59
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• 49:01
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• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Mitchell, I keep it simple. I just need a pepperoni pizza.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Needed hot, extra cheese. You know, I might add a
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: little cheese myself, Mitchell, because I like a cheesy pizza.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: But it's definitely going to be pepperoni, bud.
• 49:15
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  Speaker 3: Make Monday night pizza night with a fresh from your
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: oven taste. It's not delivery. It's DiGiorno. And it's that
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: time on the Richard Sherman podcast. It's the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to operate quickly here in these quick takes. Richard,
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  Speaker 3: let's go to... Tennessee, the Titans, your boy Robert Sala.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of high hopes, new coach, second-year quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: They made a lot of aggressive moves in free agency,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: and nothing seemed to work in Tennessee. The Texans finally
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: get a win in the win column here, and they
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: also made a big trade. Marvin Harrison Jr. goes to
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: the Texans from the Arizona Cardinals for a second-round pick
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: and a sixth-round pick. Before we get into the game,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about Marvin Harrison Jr. Obviously, it
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: was a failed experiment in Arizona, but do you believe
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: he's got gas left in the tank to make a
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: difference here in Houston and revitalize his career?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, and especially in a crowded receiving room
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: They got talent. They got guys. They got Nico Collins,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Jalen Newell, Kayshaun Booty. They got guys who can go.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: They're not expecting a ton from him, and I think–
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Nico Collins being a similar build is a guy he
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: can learn from a veteran who has played at a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: high level for a long time, but has been a
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: little banged up. I think he can benefit from this.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And then you give him his college quarterback back and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: CJ Stroud, a guy who spoke life into him, who
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: believes in him, who throws an accurate ball. I think
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: that putting them around people like that is going to be,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: be really positive for him. A new, new, like kind
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: of stress-free environment for him. There aren't the weight of
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: expectations on him anymore. He's been traded away. You know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: whatever you feel about him is what it is at
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: this point. And I think this gives him a chance
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  Speaker 1: to go somewhere new, reestablish himself and figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about this game. You know, the Houston Texans
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: are 1-4 on the season. There's only been one team
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: in the history of the NFL to start 0-4 and
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: then make the playoffs. They square off against the Jaguars
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: next week. Is there any hope in Houston? Are you
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: at all optimistic about this team going forward?
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  Speaker 1: Well, just because of what they did last year and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the way they closed the year, you always have to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: kind of keep that in mind and keep a semblance
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: of hope. But, again, this Jacksonville Jaguars team is a
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: really talented team. If they find a way to beat them,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you know, they're going to have to find a way
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: to win some games that people aren't expecting them to
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: win now because of how they played.
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  Speaker 2: But when you get a game.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Like this where Will Anderson has three sacks, Daniel Hunter
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: has a sack– Aziz Alshair has 11 tackles like you
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  Speaker 1: start to see and remember what this defense can be
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: when they're on when they're rolling. And if if they
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: find some momentum and start to be disruptive as they
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: once were, then they're going to be tough to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: And if C.J.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Stroud finds his rhythm and is as efficient, I don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: think he's played bad at all this season. I thought
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: he's played good football. The defense just haven't lived up
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to their to their billing so far.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to New England. As the New England Patriots
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: take on the Las Vegas Raiders, and I'll say one thing.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: It is a great thing we did not put the
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Raiders in the top five of our power ranks because
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: that would have bit us. And you called that going
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: into the week four game. This Raiders team started 3-0
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: and now have gone 0-2 these last two games with
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: tough losses to the Kansas City Chiefs and now the
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: New England Patriots. Let's talk about the Patriots. This team
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: started off 1-2 in the season and has got two
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: big wins of recent on the road against the Buffalo
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Bills and then at home destroying the Las Vegas Raiders 45-17.
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  Speaker 3: Are the New England Patriots back in your eyes in
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: terms of being competitors in the AFC?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Their defense has been playing pretty good all season long.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: So This isn't anything new for them, but what changed
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: in this game was Drake May. Drake May played with
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: incredible confidence, poise, accuracy. He was 26-34, 374 yards, four touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: 150 passer rating against a defense that's not been world beaters,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: but they've been solid. They've been solid to good throughout
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: this season, and they played Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs pretty tight. So I wasn't expecting a New
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: England Patriots who have been struggling this season to really
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: get away from them like this, but 45-17.
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  Speaker 2: Is really incredible.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: That's an incredible game on both sides of the ball
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: for this Mike Frabel coached team, and maybe they're finding
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: their magic and regaining their form. And again, this AFC
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: East isn't Buffalo's right now. At this point, Buffalo still
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: has things to figure out, especially defensively, and the New
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: England Patriots already went to Buffalo and beat them. So
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: when that happens, you see this team is regaining their confidence.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: The Raiders are You expected them to have a kind
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: of come back to, you know, come back to earth moment,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and this is probably that come back to earth moment.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins played a solid game, but, you know, struggled
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: for the most part. Brock Bowers continues to be a force.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Eight catches for 110 yards and a touchdown. Seems to
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: be consistent for him. The run game didn't really get going.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Aston Gentile ravaged 2.7 to carry this game. And, you know,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: just not a lot of things going well for him.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see what they do against the Buffalo Bills next week,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: but I think if the Patriots keep playing like this,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: obviously they got a great chance to win this division again.
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  Speaker 3: And Fernando Mendoza made his debut as a Raider this week, too.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: Six of eight for 48 yards. You know, you never know.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: The Raiders square off against the Bills next week. Like
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: you say, if they lose that game, they go to
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: three and three. They go on a little losing streak.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe we see more of Mendoza. But for now, you
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: got to stick with the faith in Kirk Cousins and
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: hoping that he can right this ship. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns a little bit more here, Richard. They
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: took on the New York Jets in New Jersey, right?
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: And the Jets come away with a win. But this
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: game was one of those games that you thought, hey,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: if the Browns are serious about trying to compete for
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: the playoffs, they got to come away with a win
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: here against the Jets. And ultimately, they blew this game. Yes,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: it was raining. Yes, it was wet. But it's inexcusable
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: to be up points in a very tight game, a
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: defensive battle, and a long snapper snaps the ball over
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: his punter's head, giving the Jets life and ultimately allowing
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: them to go on to score the go-ahead touchdown. How
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: big of a deal is a loss like this for
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Cleveland's longevity this season? Because it seems like every game
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: is going to matter for a team like this.
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  Speaker 2: No question about it.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: It goes a long way because they've been finding a
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: way to win these games, and it looked like they
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: had found a way again because their defense, when you
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: give them a long field, they have been really making
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: it difficult for the Jets to score. And then you
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: have a mishap like that on special teams where there's
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: really nothing your defense can do. It's a short field.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: They're going to find a way to get in the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: end zone. Deshaun Watson didn't play great by any stretch
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: of the imagination, but they also didn't give him an
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: opportunity to play great. Sacked eight times in a game.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: and they were still in position to win the game
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: at the end if the punter doesn't have that mishap
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: and the special teams doesn't have that mishap. So it's
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: a frustrating game. I'm sure Todd Monken is kicking himself
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: because that's one of those games that you would love
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to have. You're looking at a Browns team that could
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: have been potentially 4-1. You're going to have some tough
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: stretches in November and December where you might lose some
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: games that you should have won, etc., etc., and you
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: would have wanted to have a little bit more of
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: a cushion than you do It's unfortunate, but you got
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: no time to cry or think about it. You got
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens coming into town. You got the Baltimore
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Ravens next week, and you got to figure that out.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond with a huge drop in this game. I
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: thought he played solid, but he had a drop that
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: could have made the difference. I think the Browns had
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: five or six drops in this game, and it's hard
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: to win like that. If the quarterback's throwing accurate passes
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and receivers are dropping them, I know sometimes the conditions
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: get to them, but you can't have it. Gino Smith
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson continue to have a great connection, seven
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: receptions for 104. Gino was 17 of 30 for 182, uh,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: 85 passer rating. He was sacked four times. You expect this, this, uh,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Browns defense to get after people. They always do, but
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I, I, I don't know. I, I,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed by this. Um, by this game from the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Browns because, you know, we just had them against Pittsburgh,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and they gutted that game out. You know, you start
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to root for a team like that, and it's unfortunate,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: but great for the Jets. They're now 2-3, and Aaron
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Glenn gives us another historic meme with his challenge flag,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and he was dangling.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: That was hilarious, but this is one of those games
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: that the Browns would wish they could have had back.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh Steelers survive the Indianapolis
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Colts 34-22. Before this game, D.K. Metcalf is joking about
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner and asked about him, and he says, who?
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: And then D.K. Metcalf goes for three and 12 yards.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a good way to show
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: up in a game, but Aaron Rodgers showed up in
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: this game with three passing touchdowns, 235 passing yards. Jalen Warren,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: major contributor, 101 rushing yards, a touchdown, 50-yard gain. and
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: then an 80-yard reception for a touchdown. This Steelers team's
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: an interesting one. They're three and two right now. This
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: division is interesting. You've got the Baltimore Ravens dealing with injuries.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: You've got the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe Burrow kind of
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: up in the air as well. And then enter the
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: always steady Pittsburgh Steelers. Richard, is there a a glimmer
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: of hope for them to win the AFC North again
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: this year with the way they're playing, with an aging
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers still able to get it done?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: No question about it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is getting the ball out of his hands
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: really quickly, and he's benefiting from checkdowns. When you look
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: up and Jalen Warren is taking a check down 80
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: yards for a touchdown, Aaron Rodgers is sitting there like, yes,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: one of the longest passes of.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: His career ever.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: He threw five yards. He threw five yards, and his
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: receiver did the rest. You got to love it if
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: you're Aaron Rodgers. He had three touchdowns in this game,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: 125.1 passer rating, was only sacked once. Jalen Warren was
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: doing it through the air, on the ground. He was
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: finding Pat Friermuth in the end zone. For those short,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: they seem to have a great rapport and a great relationship.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Their defense was making enough plays. uh, throughout this game to, to,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to stop the run. And that's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: what it starts with when you play the Indianapolis Colts
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: and they held Jonathan Taylor to 45 yards on 15 carries.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Three yards to carry, um, held them to a bunch
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: of field goals. And that's important in this game. Daniel
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Jones had a little bit of success, but, uh, you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: 24 or 44 for two 67, 72.8 passer rating, nothing special. Um,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: This game against the Bucs that the Steelers are playing
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: next week, I mean, you just never know. That's one
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: of those games that could go either way because both
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of these teams have been up and down. You know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: we just had the Buccaneers against the Dallas Cowboys, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: the rookie didn't play out of his mind, but the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: defense brought a lot of pressure.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Todd Bowles got back to his ways. A lot of blitzes.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: A lot of blitzes forcing the quarterback to make quick
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: decisions and get the ball out of his hands, obviously.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has played against Todd Bowles quite a few
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: times throughout his career, so I'm sure he will have
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: a few answers and some things, but that's one of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: those games that could go either way. I expect the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh defense to really get after Jalen Daniels, the rookie.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Really great story. We had him on the desk for
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. Had a really good game the other day,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: but I know they're going to make life very difficult
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: for him. I would have Pittsburgh in that one. The
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Colts have the Titans. I think that'll be a get-right
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: game for them like it was for the Houston Texans.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I expect the same thing. Let's talk about this Washington
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Commanders team. They seemingly had this game in hand, and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: that ultimately blew it to Jameis Winston and the New
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: York Giants. This game ends in a tie, 27-27. There
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: was a number of mistakes down the stretch for this
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Commanders team. Jaden Daniels played his best. With one arm, essentially,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: he was running all over the field. He had over
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: 100 yards rushing, a couple touchdowns.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: He said at the end of the game, we got
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: to relay that as an offense and it starts with
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: everyone top down.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Ultimately, it's on me. What do you think about that response, Mitchell?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I think Jalen Daniel needs to understand. I mean, Jaden
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Daniels needs to understand the point in the field that
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: he's on. What what what's going on in the game
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: and know that, hey, you don't have any timeouts. You
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: don't have time. You can't play around like this. Like.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: If you guys are going to sneak it and spike it,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: then everybody has to be on the same page. And
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: you have to talk about that in the huddle. And
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's on him. That's on the quarterback. And unfortunately,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of responsibility put on the quarterback. And
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: he's the quarterback of the team. When there's no timeouts,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the coach has a tremendous amount of trust in the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback that he is aware and he understands the situation
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and he's going to get it done. And, you know,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: people may say that's unfair, but that's why they get
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: paid the big bucks. That's why they get all the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: attention and acclaim. That's why it's the hardest position on
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: the field. because there are so many things you have
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: to be aware of at the same time. That's on
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Sure, the head coaches can try to alert
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: him in the 15 or 16 seconds or whatever they get,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: 20 seconds, as they're giving him the play, but he
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: should have known.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Well, this New York Giants team now sits atop of
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: the division, and they stay there. I mean, Jameis Winston
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: came alive late in that fourth quarter. Malik Nabors, 11 receptions,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: 121 yards, and ultimately the big story is Isaiah Likely,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: who just looks like a major factor for them coming
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: over for the Ravens this offseason. This Giants team is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: going to stay competitive. It's a tie. It is a tie,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: but it felt and looked like a win at the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: end of overtime there as you saw that team celebrating.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: So we've got to keep our eyes on this Giants
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: team as they trend forward because it certainly looks like
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: John Harbaugh is changing things there in New York. Let's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: go to the Cincinnati Bengals. They're taking on the Miami Dolphins.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: No one thought a whole lot about this game coming in.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: The Bengals win 31-24. Joe Burrow, four touchdown passes, big game.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase with the touchdown grab and 77 yards receiving.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the Cincinnati Bengals here, Richard?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I know we are high on them super early in
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: the season. Is there any reason to think highly of
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: them now after it went over the Miami Dolphins?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Well, before we get away from this, this commander's game,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: that was one of the most crazy endings I've ever
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: seen to a game. But there's a funny stat going
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: into the game. The New York Giants were on to,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: 0-230 since 1970 when trailing by 14 or more points
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: in the final eight minutes of regulation. Mitchell, now they're 0-230-1.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Great job.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Finding a way to make history. That's how you do it.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: John Harbaugh effect, man.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Come on. They're figuring it out. Do I trust this
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Bengals defense anymore? No, I don't. I don't. They got
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: me in the first couple weeks, you know, but it
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: was a flash, Mitchell. It's longevity.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: You got to keep doing it over time and If
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: you're allowing the Miami Dolphins to score 24, you know,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: there was some, he had 74, Malik Willis had 74
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: on the ground. I mean, they rushed for quite a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: few yards, and that's been the strength of the Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Malik Willis isn't a world beater. They had two interceptions
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: on him. But this is a team without a ton
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: of talent, you know, in cap hell. They got a
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of young guys playing. You're not expecting a ton
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: from them, and they still found a way to score
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: 24 points and make this a much closer game. Joe Burrow,
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  Speaker 1: it did a great job, 23-32, 190. Jamar Chase made
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: some incredible catches, including that 45-yard touchdown catch. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm left not too impressed by this Cincinnati Bengals defense. Again,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see as the season progresses, as they get later
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  Speaker 1: on down the line, what they do.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about your new favorite subject matter, and that's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the L.A. Chargers, and more specifically, Justin Herbert. Another lousy
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  Speaker 3: game against the Denver Broncos. This Broncos defense is good,
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  Speaker 3: but to only throw for 121 yards and one touchdown
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  Speaker 3: with a 68.2 passer rating, questions are starting to rise
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  Speaker 3: week after week with Justin Herbert in L.A. And then
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  Speaker 3: you look at the Broncos. They were able to get
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: things done, winning 23-17, but the question still is, What's
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  Speaker 3: going on with Bo Nix? They go on to add
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle this offseason, two receptions, 19 yards. His other
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: running mate, Cortland Sutton, two receptions, 18 yards. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if I can say I'm truly impressed with Denver,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: but let's start with Denver. What are your thoughts on
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  Speaker 3: this Denver Broncos team as they pull off the win
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  Speaker 3: against the Chargers?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, you have to start to
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  Speaker 1: question if Bo Nix has regressed. You're not seeing the
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  Speaker 1: same confidence. You're not seeing the same accuracy, pushing the
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  Speaker 1: ball down the field. And I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton retook the play-calling duties, but you didn't see
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  Speaker 1: a ton different. You didn't see the explosive offense that
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  Speaker 1: you thought you may see.
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  Speaker 2: They scored 23 points.
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  Speaker 1: They won the game against a Chargers team that hasn't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: won a game all season. So you got to give
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: them credit for that. But at the end of the day,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos won. The Chargers lost. They're 0-5. What
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: are they going to do? You hear a lot of
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the fans complain about Mike McDaniel. Do you want to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: get rid of him? Do you want to do something else?
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  Speaker 2: Is it his fault? Is it Herbert?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody thinks it's Herbert's fault. So we can't blame Justin
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Herbert because this offensive line has been atrocious and you
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: got to give him credit for that. They, they, I mean,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: there are some terrible clips online that you, you look
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  Speaker 1: up and you're like, my goodness, you guys are NFL
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: football players and you couldn't figure out, figure this out.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't do better than this. It's concerning.
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  Speaker 1: But, um, I think that there are some things Justin
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Herbert could do better. I think there's a lot of
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: things this offensive line can do better. It's an offensive line. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: they lost Rashawn Slater again. That needs some help, especially
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: on the interior. But no help is coming. No help
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  Speaker 1: is coming. I don't know what they're going to do.
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  Speaker 1: They got the Kansas City Chiefs next week. Things aren't
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: getting easier for them. I heard their fans early in
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the year like, oh, man, it's not going to be
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that bad, yada, yada, yada. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: something's going to have to be done. you're either going
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to have to fire the head coach or you're going
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: to have to trade the quarterback. And I know you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: guys don't want to hear that, but this is year seven.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: This is year seven of it. And, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: could say the defense played good enough in this game.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: There's been a couple games this season that the defense
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: has played well enough to put them in position to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: win the game.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought the Buffalo game in Buffalo was another.
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  Speaker 1: One of those opportunities where their defense played well enough
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: to keep them in the game and they didn't get
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  Speaker 1: it done. This week, the Denver Broncos defense, three takeaways,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: two forced fumbles and an interception. They sacked Herbert five times.
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  Speaker 1: Their defense won them this game when Bo Nix struggled
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  Speaker 1: and Bo Nix didn't get it done and he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: effective and efficient enough. I thought Jadae Barron, six tackles
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  Speaker 1: and five solo. They had a lot of guys making plays.
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  Speaker 1: My guy DJ Jones had a sack in the game.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Zach Allen, Benito had two sacks. Their defense is starting
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to regain its form just in time. We got them
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: this Thursday. The Seattle Seahawks are coming into Mile High Stadium.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I look forward to that game. Another defensive battle. Seattle's
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: coming out of this bloodbath of a battle with the
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: San Francisco 49ers. Can they correct the things they need
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to correct going forward? Can they find their run game?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Can Sam Darnold be more efficient with the football? On
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: the flip side, can Bo Nix be better? Because if
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: he plays like this against the Seattle Seahawks, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they walk out of that game with a win.
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  Speaker 2: But we shall see. The Chargers.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of hope for them going forward,
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  Speaker 1: but we will see. The Denver Broncos have to fix
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: their red zone issues. They were two for five in
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: the red zone. The turnovers helped them. But, yeah, the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos offense went one for 12 on third down.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing that they need to get fixed because this
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Seattle defense is great on third down, and they're coming
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  Speaker 1: off a tough battle. I can't wait to be at
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: that game and talk about everything we're going to talk
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: about in it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you there, 7 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: Eastern.
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  Speaker 2: 4 p.m. Pacific, TNF tonight. Good time.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: I would not want to be a Denver Bronco fan
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: going into that game on Thursday night. I just have
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: a bad feeling for them. I feel like Seattle is
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: going to come out with a vengeance. This would have
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: been the Super Bowl matchup, but for Bo Nix getting
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: hurt in that AFC title game, or leading into the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: AFC title game, rather. But Richard... Back to L.A. before
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: we wrap up. This team, they're staring down the barrel
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: of an 0-8 start. I mean, just call it how
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: it is. I mean, they've got the Kansas City Chiefs
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: followed by the L.A. Rams followed by the Houston Texans.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't get much easier for them. And like you said,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: you're going to have to pick your poison. Are you
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: going to give up on your coach or are you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: going to give up on your quarterback? Because there's way
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: too much talent in L.A. for them to be struggling
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: like this. It's noteworthy. going forward the rest of the season.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: You don't see it often for a team to start
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: 0-5 with that much talent on the roster. Richard, my friend,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: it's always a great time sitting down with you every
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Sunday night, breaking down these games. Huge game this weekend.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: San Francisco 49er and the faithful in San Francisco. Congratulations
• 1:11:26
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• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Well, if you guys had any questions about me, I
• 1:11:49
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• 1:11:51
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• 1:11:55
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• 1:11:58
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• 1:12:02
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• 1:12:04
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