Latest / Earn Your Leisure / How to Protect and Build Wealth After Divorce
Transcript
- 0:01Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank.
- 0:04Speaker 1: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring,
- 0:07Speaker 1: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals
- 0:10Speaker 1: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little,
- 0:14Speaker 1: day after day. It's like banking with P and C Bank.
- 0:18Speaker 1: It might seem boring to safe plan and make calculated
- 0:21Speaker 1: decisions with your bank, but keeping your money boring is
- 0:24Speaker 1: what helps you live or more happily fulfilled life. P
- 0:28Speaker 1: and C Bank Brilliantly Boring since eighteen sixty five. Brilliantly
- 0:32Speaker 1: Boring since eighteen sixty five is a service mark of
- 0:35Speaker 1: the PNC Financial Service Group, Inc. P and C Bank
- 0:39Speaker 1: National Association Member FDIC erness What's Up? You ever walk
- 0:45Speaker 1: into a small business and everything just works like the
- 0:49Speaker 1: checkout is fast, the receipts are digital, tipping is a breeze,
- 0:53Speaker 1: and you're out the door before the line even builds.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Odds are they're using Square? We love supporting business that
- 1:00Speaker 1: run on Square because it just feels seamless. Whether it's
- 1:03Speaker 1: a local coffee shop, a vendor at a pop up market,
- 1:06Speaker 1: or even one of our merch partners. Square makes it
- 1:09Speaker 1: easy for them to take payments, manage inventory, and run
- 1:12Speaker 1: their business with confidence, all from one simple system. If
- 1:16Speaker 1: you're a business owner or even just thinking about launching
- 1:19Speaker 1: something soon, Square is hands down one of the best
- 1:22Speaker 1: tools out there to help you start, run and grow.
- 1:25Speaker 1: It's not just about payments, it's about giving you time
- 1:29Speaker 1: back so you can focus on what matters most ready.
- 1:32Speaker 1: To see how Square can transform your business, visit Square
- 1:35Speaker 1: dot com backslash, go backslash eyl to learn more that
- 1:40Speaker 1: Square dot com backslash, go backslash eyl. Don't wait, don't hesitate.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep
- 1:48Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward.
- 1:51Speaker 2: So let me ask you this switching gears huh. But
- 1:55Speaker 2: also important conversation when it comes to wealth. I know,
- 1:58Speaker 2: you know in your life everybody has challenges. You went
- 2:00Speaker 2: through a divorce. Oh yeah, so talk about how you
- 2:04Speaker 2: can navigate keeping your wealth after a divorce.
- 2:09Speaker 3: I love that, you know, And uh ra shad, that's
- 2:11Speaker 3: a book I actually want to write. It's I kind
- 2:12Speaker 3: of become a millionaire after divorce because you know, divorce
- 2:15Speaker 3: wipes out people financially. It's a complete reset. And you
- 2:21Speaker 3: know I went through a divorce. You know kind of
- 2:23Speaker 3: at a worse time, at a worse time when you know,
- 2:25Speaker 3: my business was in two thousand and two, two thousand
- 2:28Speaker 3: and three was the big dot com bust, and I
- 2:30Speaker 3: was into consulting big. I used to work for Delitten,
- 2:33Speaker 3: Ernst and Young and I and I was on my
- 2:35Speaker 3: own at that time, and clients didn't want to see
- 2:37Speaker 3: a consultant after Y two K. They're like, we're tired
- 2:40Speaker 3: of spending all this money on advice. And you know,
- 2:44Speaker 3: Y two K wasn't as big as it was, and
- 2:46Speaker 3: the dot com isn't as big as it was supposed
- 2:48Speaker 3: to be. So business was tough. I mean two thousand
- 2:52Speaker 3: and two, two thousand and three and I was in
- 2:53Speaker 3: red ink, and that was the same time my ex wife,
- 2:56Speaker 3: my son's mothers, and I decide to go our separate ways,
- 3:01Speaker 3: and I was left for the half a million dollars
- 3:03Speaker 3: in debt from UH with Wills Argle Bank. My line
- 3:06Speaker 3: of credit was called because I was using my line
- 3:08Speaker 3: of credit to keep the business afloat. And so, you know,
- 3:13Speaker 3: so if you're getting a situation you find yourself getting divorced,
- 3:16Speaker 3: I think the first thing that you have to really
- 3:19Speaker 3: do is kind of focus on your offense, focus on
- 3:21Speaker 3: keeping your income strong, focus on your skills. And then
- 3:24Speaker 3: also you have to be steady about what you do
- 3:28Speaker 3: with your money because now you have less money to do.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And for me, I had to stop paying for my
- 3:33Speaker 3: son's college funds, you know, for a few years until
- 3:37Speaker 3: I resorted out my finances right. And my divorce you know,
- 3:41Speaker 3: caused me to sell my big house in Oakland Hills
- 3:44Speaker 3: and pretty much give her all the proceeds. But I
- 3:46Speaker 3: kept my apartment buildings. So if you have multiple assets
- 3:50Speaker 3: in your family, what I did with my ex wife,
- 3:52Speaker 3: I was like, okay, we've got this, we have this
- 3:54Speaker 3: equity in our house. I'm buying out my apartment buildings,
- 3:58Speaker 3: the ones I had in Jersey City back in two
- 4:01Speaker 3: thousand and three and in DC, right, So I bought
- 4:05Speaker 3: her out of those and held onto those, and there
- 4:09Speaker 3: was a year where I could even pay myself. So
- 4:11Speaker 3: people think I got a job and I get a divorce,
- 4:14Speaker 3: and that's bad, But think about being an entrepreneur getting
- 4:17Speaker 3: a divorce, having to split up half of your assets
- 4:21Speaker 3: and having to pay alimony and child support and trying
- 4:24Speaker 3: to figure out your life moving forward. But what was
- 4:27Speaker 3: really helpful Joy is about, was the fact that I
- 4:30Speaker 3: kept a frugal mindset and I was really responsible in
- 4:33Speaker 3: doing what I was supposed to do to my ex
- 4:36Speaker 3: wife and my kids. So I kept a frugal mindset
- 4:39Speaker 3: and I just went low to the ground.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Man.
- 4:40Speaker 3: People wouldn't have known it, but I was not spending
- 4:43Speaker 3: money on clothes. I wasn't spending money on anything. But
- 4:46Speaker 3: I held on to my investments, and in fact, I
- 4:49Speaker 3: figured out a way to convest more because I had assets.
- 4:52Speaker 3: So my advice to people going through that is to
- 4:55Speaker 3: develop this frugal mindset. You'll lay low and keep moving forward,
- 5:00Speaker 3: keep investing your way, and in time you'll see your
- 5:04Speaker 3: way out of it. And so and so that's really
- 5:08Speaker 3: really key. And one of the things, like I said,
- 5:09Speaker 3: that work for me was buying real estate in Jersey
- 5:12Speaker 3: City in two thousand and three. And if you guys
- 5:14Speaker 3: live in New York and know what's happening with Jersey City,
- 5:17Speaker 3: it's exploded, booming, it's booting, it's booming. So it's a
- 5:20Speaker 3: matter of basically, make sure you take care of your responsibility,
- 5:23Speaker 3: make sure you do what you have to do, continue
- 5:25Speaker 3: to invest, continue to work on your income, and you'll
- 5:28Speaker 3: dig your way out of it. But too many people
- 5:31Speaker 3: look at divorces saying I don't want to make no
- 5:34Speaker 3: more money because if I do, she's going to hit
- 5:36Speaker 3: me up for more child support. I'm like, don't punk out.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Just you be responsible, do what you have to do.
- 5:43Speaker 3: But get busy in your offense, Get busy building up
- 5:45Speaker 3: your income and continue to invest. And although it may
- 5:48Speaker 3: not feel like this, ten, fifteen, twenty years down the road,
- 5:51Speaker 3: like Steve Jobs connecting the dots looking forward, you'll see
- 5:54Speaker 3: that it worked out. My three boys graduated college, one
- 5:57Speaker 3: of them got as NBA and finance know, we have
- 6:00Speaker 3: a great relationship. My net worth is gone up probably,
- 6:05Speaker 3: you know, probably fifteen twenty times since then because I
- 6:08Speaker 3: didn't give up. And that's really what it's all about
- 6:12Speaker 3: about the pre nu Oh yeah, well yeah, I hate
- 6:16Speaker 3: to air my dirty laundry. But I've been married twice.
- 6:18Speaker 3: But anyway, so the first time I didn't have to
- 6:21Speaker 3: got divorced twice. I got divorced twice. That's the book.
- 6:26Speaker 3: That's the next book. Yeah, I've been divorced twice, you know,
- 6:30Speaker 3: which is interesting Rashad because my second wife, her and
- 6:35Speaker 3: I were really still good friends. She worked at my
- 6:37Speaker 3: company for a lot of years. She's a lawyer. And
- 6:40Speaker 3: what was interesting about is that we came into the
- 6:43Speaker 3: into the marriage unequally financially yield, which was challenging. Right,
- 6:48Speaker 3: my net worth is here. She was, you know, she
- 6:51Speaker 3: was about ten years younger than me, and.
- 6:52Speaker 1: She can you raise your hand a little high and
- 6:54Speaker 1: went under the screen.
- 6:58Speaker 3: My net worth was here and hers was down here.
- 7:01Speaker 3: So in the prenup, you know which that started. That
- 7:05Speaker 3: set the relationship off the wrong foot, right, Huh.
- 7:10Speaker 1: The prenup bore the imbalance in.
- 7:11Speaker 3: The prenup, which it often does, even though women say, well,
- 7:15Speaker 3: I'll gladly signed a prenup, that's no problem. Okay, Well,
- 7:19Speaker 3: I didn't really know what a prenup was. A lot
- 7:21Speaker 3: of people don't know what it really is. So I
- 7:24Speaker 3: went and hired an attorney through my recommendations, and my
- 7:28Speaker 3: attorney was putting my prenup together and we were getting
- 7:31Speaker 3: married and he was running behind on getting it done,
- 7:34Speaker 3: so it was kind of forcing some pressure there. So
- 7:37Speaker 3: by the time he delivered the prenup and her attorney
- 7:40Speaker 3: reviewed it, she was like, she felt like she really
- 7:44Speaker 3: couldn't trust me anymore. She already had doubts anyway, but
- 7:46Speaker 3: she really felt like she couldn't trust me. Because what
- 7:49Speaker 3: a prenup is is when you get married, there are
- 7:54Speaker 3: inalienable rights to a marriage that the state gives you right.
- 7:59Speaker 3: And so when you get a prenup, what it's saying is,
- 8:01Speaker 3: I'm waving my right to this, his income, I'm waving
- 8:04Speaker 3: my rights to this, his assets. I'm waving my rights
- 8:08Speaker 3: to all these things. And you're like, wait a minute,
- 8:11Speaker 3: it feels awkward. It's like I have a right for that,
- 8:14Speaker 3: and then now I'm giving it away. So a lot
- 8:17Speaker 3: of people it kind of blows their mind. Even though
- 8:20Speaker 3: there are concessions that says, well, if we got a
- 8:22Speaker 3: divorced by this time, you would get this, but hey,
- 8:26Speaker 3: you're a lawyer, you make good money. It's like, you know,
- 8:29Speaker 3: and you have a child and I got three boys.
- 8:31Speaker 3: So it was very, very difficult. And the moment that
- 8:34Speaker 3: we signed it, which was like it was supposed to
- 8:37Speaker 3: not be through duress, but it ended up being kind
- 8:39Speaker 3: of through dress because she waited until last minute right
- 8:41Speaker 3: before we got married. It just put the marriage on
- 8:44Speaker 3: the wrong foot. So after dating for ten years and
- 8:48Speaker 3: being married for five years, we ended up calling it
- 8:50Speaker 3: quits and my prenup, you know, it held. And so
- 8:55Speaker 3: what's interesting is about the prenup is like a lot
- 8:59Speaker 3: of people say they want until they read it and
- 9:01Speaker 3: their lawyers give them feedback, and it's difficult.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Then her lawyer wanted to go right, her lawyer wanted
- 9:06Speaker 4: to write my prenup. After that, she was like, oh no,
- 9:08Speaker 4: let me rewrite it. I was like, no, you can't
- 9:10Speaker 4: write a prenup to protect my assets, right, yeah, I'm
- 9:14Speaker 4: not going to go for that. So it's very complicated
- 9:17Speaker 4: and a lot of people struggle with that notion. But
- 9:21Speaker 4: look at it this way.
- 9:23Speaker 3: I don't know if you can. I mean, I know
- 9:24Speaker 3: you guys have a one son or kid, and I
- 9:26Speaker 3: know Troy you have two or three kids. I was thinking, like,
- 9:29Speaker 3: I can't get a divorce you have two kids. Okay,
- 9:31Speaker 3: I'm sorry, list we married right right too. But the
- 9:40Speaker 3: whole point is like if I got a divorce to
- 9:42Speaker 3: my second wife and I because I had a will too,
- 9:47Speaker 3: because if I died, she was I was going to
- 9:49Speaker 3: give her twenty five percent of my assets. The other
- 9:51Speaker 3: seventy five percent was going to my son's. But if
- 9:55Speaker 3: I died and my assets went to her without a prenup,
- 9:59Speaker 3: then and my sons could have had a situation where
- 10:03Speaker 3: she wouldn't have paid for their college. My sons could
- 10:05Speaker 3: have been in a situation where they've got nothing. So
- 10:08Speaker 3: my rationale for a prenup was, you know, my sons
- 10:12Speaker 3: are everything to me. There's no in the word I'm
- 10:14Speaker 3: gonna work this hard and not like my dad say,
- 10:17Speaker 3: have them start from my shoulders, yep, not from the ground.
- 10:21Speaker 3: So I needed to make sure that they were taken
- 10:23Speaker 3: care of, and that was the crux of the peanup.
- 10:28Speaker 3: What's interesting is there's three sides of her peanup. There's
- 10:31Speaker 3: my I'm make sure my hands on the camera. There's
- 10:33Speaker 3: my assets, her assets and hours. And so how it
- 10:36Speaker 3: goes is my assets could continue to grow, right, and
- 10:40Speaker 3: I would still own them as long as they were
- 10:43Speaker 3: they were they were titled to me. And then her
- 10:46Speaker 3: assets would do the same thing, right, she had a
- 10:50Speaker 3: condo that would continue to grow. But if we titled
- 10:52Speaker 3: assets together, that's what we would split, and that's how
- 10:56Speaker 3: it was written. So we never really had any assets together.
- 11:00Speaker 3: So therefore we got a divorce. I kept my assets,
- 11:03Speaker 3: she kept hers, and I entered the concession part of
- 11:08Speaker 3: my prina. But it's an interesting thing, and it really
- 11:12Speaker 3: sometimes damages relationships because people start looking at you like
- 11:17Speaker 3: do you trust me or whatever. We end up divorce,
- 11:20Speaker 3: we end up good friends. She stayed in my company
- 11:22Speaker 3: for a lot of years. She's now a tech lawyer
- 11:25Speaker 3: for major government contracting businesses because she worked in my business.
- 11:30Speaker 3: And I raised her daughter like my daughter. So it's like,
- 11:34Speaker 3: you know, it's all good, but that's the challenge.
- 11:37Speaker 5: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child
- 11:40Speaker 5: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from El Salvador
- 11:44Speaker 5: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with
- 11:48Speaker 5: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just
- 11:52Speaker 5: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President
- 11:56Speaker 5: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christine Noman, the United State
- 12:00Speaker 5: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border
- 12:05Speaker 5: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over
- 12:08Speaker 5: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you
- 12:12Speaker 5: are here illegally, your next you will be fine. Nearly
- 12:16Speaker 5: one thousand dollars a day imprisoned and deported, you will
- 12:20Speaker 5: never return. But if you register using our CBP home
- 12:23Speaker 5: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.
- 12:27Speaker 5: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump America's laws,
- 12:32Speaker 5: border and families will be protected.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,