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Study Hall: The Business of Sports with Brandon Copeland · Earn Your Leisure

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna jump right into it.
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Speaker 8: We got an extremely special guest today once again, somebody
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Speaker 8: we interviewed Al Harrington, right, and Al Harrington was somebody.
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Speaker 7: That we wrote a post about.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then from that post, he you know, engaged
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Speaker 8: him and we went to LA and we actually had
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Speaker 8: a conversation with him right on the podcast. So once again,
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Speaker 8: similar situation, right, you want to.
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Speaker 3: Get the backstort in this the power?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so this is this is the you know, uh,
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Speaker 4: standard procedure for us is like I'll read articles at
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Speaker 4: five thirty in the morning. I think we spoke about
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Speaker 4: that on when we were with Q and I'll go
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Speaker 4: through articles and I'll find, you know, things that are
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Speaker 4: very interesting and I think would relate on our page.
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Speaker 4: And I came across this article about Brandon Copeland and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, wow, this guy's amazing. And literally as
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Speaker 4: I'm reading it, there's a special on Sports Center and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, no, no, no, this guy is on
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Speaker 4: the same path as us.
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Speaker 3: We have to meet this guy. We have to talk
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Speaker 3: to this guy.
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Speaker 4: And said it to you like five thirty in the morning.
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Speaker 4: I know you're sleeping, but I'm like, he has to
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Speaker 4: see this. And as soon as you woke up, you
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Speaker 4: put the post up and the traction was crazy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was one of our biggest posts. So Brandon
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Speaker 8: Copan if you're not familiar, he he plays for the Jets,
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Speaker 8: but that's that's the only part of his story. He
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Speaker 8: is a u pin graduate. If anybody's not familiar, UPenn
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Speaker 8: has one of the best business business schools in the world,
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Speaker 8: the Wharton School of Business. So that's you know, separates
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Speaker 8: him from a lot of NFL players. But also he
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Speaker 8: works on Wall Street during the off season. He has
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Speaker 8: a real estate investment company and he actually is a
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Speaker 8: college professor at Warton. So when I was reading his story,
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Speaker 8: I'm like, this is crazy, Like you know what I mean,
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Speaker 8: Like we highlight the bad things with you know, people
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Speaker 8: make mistakes in any realm, but it seems like athletes
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Speaker 8: always get highlighted the most, right anytime that this is
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Speaker 8: domestic violence, anything like that happens. So it's like we
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Speaker 8: need to highlight this like this this is just a
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Speaker 8: dope story. So I put the story out and once
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Speaker 8: again I put in the story.
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Speaker 7: I'm like, y'all would love to connect with you, and
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Speaker 7: he was like, yeah, let's connect. So I was like what.
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Speaker 8: So I shot with DM and we worked it out
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Speaker 8: via you know, emails, and now we hate on our podcast. So,
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Speaker 8: like you said, power social media, social media. So, first
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Speaker 8: of almost thank you, thank you, pleasure to be here,
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Speaker 8: pleasure to be with y'all. I love what y'all are doing.
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Speaker 7: Man, thank you. We're gonna jump right into it.
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Speaker 8: So all right, So the theme of our show is
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Speaker 8: the backstory the financial side of sports entertainment business as well.
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Speaker 8: But we we really focus on sports entertainment a lot
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Speaker 8: because we feel like, especially in our culture, people don't
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Speaker 8: fully understand what goes on behind the scenes, right, Like
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Speaker 8: everybody wants to be in the NBA, NFL or sell
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Speaker 8: a million records, but they don't understand that these are businesses, right,
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Speaker 8: It's sports business, the music business, entertainment business.
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Speaker 3: Right, that part gets left off the title.
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Speaker 7: It always does. It always does, it always does.
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Speaker 8: So you have a very interesting story, and we was
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Speaker 8: reading it, you know, the last couple of days. So
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Speaker 8: you said your first contract, correct me if I'm wrong,
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Speaker 8: you made your contract was from one point two million.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was good.
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Speaker 8: Now you have like thirty five forty thousand, yeah, So yeah,
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Speaker 8: can we just kind of break that down because to me,
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Speaker 8: it's interesting as far as like NFL players because you
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Speaker 8: have an off season, so a lot of people don't
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Speaker 8: aren't familiar like do you get paid on the off
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Speaker 8: season or how frequent do you get paid? And then
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Speaker 8: there's a thing called the jock tax when you go
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Speaker 8: to different states and you get taxed differently.
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Speaker 7: It's not all guaranteed, so yeah, can you kind of
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Speaker 7: just break that down?
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Speaker 5: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: Man, it's layers to that, layers. So yeah. So the
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Speaker 6: way I think of the NFL is nothing is guaranteed
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Speaker 6: unless you have certain stipulations within your contract and all that.
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Speaker 5: Type of stuff.
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Speaker 6: Right, So if you're one of those players, which is
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Speaker 6: you know, more players are seeing that.
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Speaker 5: That's a great thing and a blessing to have.
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Speaker 6: But when you see these big contracts, you know, Russell
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Speaker 6: Wilson one hundred and forty million, I can't remember how
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Speaker 6: much guaranteed, maybe sixty five something sixty quaranteed, right, that's
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Speaker 6: what he can bank on, right, you see the big number.
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Speaker 6: But if Russell Wilson gets hurt in year four, year five, whatever, right,
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Speaker 6: he's not seeing the rest of that money potentially. So
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Speaker 6: that's different from basketball. That's different from baseball and other sports.
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Speaker 6: So as I entered the league in twenty thirteen, I
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Speaker 6: was undrafted out of University of Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 5: I remember the Baltimore Ravens called me my hometown team.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, man, Actually, to be quite honest with you,
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Speaker 6: I was pissed off, right, Not because I was pissed
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Speaker 6: off that I didn't get drafted. That was really what
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Speaker 6: it was, right, and it just had a big chip
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Speaker 6: on my shoulder. So for me, I've been fortunate to
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Speaker 6: just have this lens on life and perspective where I'm
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Speaker 6: not really a fan of too much or anyone. So
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Speaker 6: I remember, as a rookie enter in the locker room
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Speaker 6: and this is my hometown team. These are the guys
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Speaker 6: I looked up to growing up, and I remember this.
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Speaker 5: Is fresh off of Super Bowl, fresh off of Super Bowl.
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Speaker 6: I remember, actually, you know what, the perfect story that
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Speaker 6: might describe me as my agent at the time, he
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Speaker 6: took us out right before the draft, took us out
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Speaker 6: in New York to some club up there to just
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Speaker 6: celebrate that night before the draft of like all the
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Speaker 6: work you put in and all that type of stuff.
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Speaker 6: And I remember, you know, like I said, I grew
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Speaker 6: up in Baltimore, that purple and black, you know. I
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Speaker 6: remember being in the house and seeing them, you know,
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Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl and bragging all my roommates and
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Speaker 6: all that type of stuff.
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Speaker 5: Wearing that with pride and in the club.
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Speaker 6: That from me was like my introduction to the NFL,
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Speaker 6: even though I wasn't even in it at the time.
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Speaker 6: But you had all of these different That was when
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Speaker 6: the draft was still in New York, so you had
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Speaker 6: all these different rappers and in different sections.
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Speaker 5: My agent had gotten us a section. I wasn't spending.
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Speaker 6: Anymore at a section and the other guys there where
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Speaker 6: you had Adrian Peterson with a section, Ludacris across the
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Speaker 6: way g Z, and there was ray Rice and I
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Speaker 6: remember Ray Rice walked up and I remember speaking to
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Speaker 6: him and I'm like, yo, I just want to say,
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Speaker 6: you know, you really put on for the city.
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Speaker 5: That was amazing what y'all did.
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Speaker 6: Man, Like, I appreciate you, respect you. But a couple
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Speaker 6: of days like I'm gonna be in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: Too, So.
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Speaker 6: Ain't none of that fans stuff in the war, right,
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Speaker 6: like we competition right, But before that, I want to
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Speaker 6: tell you how much I respect you. So anyway, I
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Speaker 6: say all that to say a few days later, get
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Speaker 6: the call go to the Ravens. Had that chip on
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Speaker 6: my shoulder. But the weird thing about the NFL is,
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Speaker 6: like I said, I keep it. I've been blessed to
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Speaker 6: be able to keep things in the perspective and understand that.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I just got this call that says, hey, you
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Speaker 5: get a chance to sign up and you're a Baltimore Raven.
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Speaker 6: Now no, I'm not right, Like there's still another step
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Speaker 6: to actually make the fifty three or to make a
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Speaker 6: practice squad whatever. Right, Sadly, there's a lot of guys
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Speaker 6: who are like, oh, I'm in it. No, right, like
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Speaker 6: next week you might be cut or after this rookie
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Speaker 6: mini camp you might be cut.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 6: So at that time, again, like I said, I signed
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Speaker 6: a three year, one point two million dollar deal.
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Speaker 5: However I got cut going into the.
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Speaker 6: Actual season, made it all through preseason and all that stuff,
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Speaker 6: got cut going into the actual season, and that jumped
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Speaker 6: my money down to a practice squad guy. After four weeks,
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Speaker 6: I got cut from Baltimore, So I really got four
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Speaker 6: weeks of pay. And then again, I mean there were
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Speaker 6: guys who got cut in the middle of training camp.
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Speaker 6: There's guys who got cut after three days.
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Speaker 4: So that there's a process after you get drafted, right,
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Speaker 4: because that's even a little confusing, right, there's OTAs that
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Speaker 4: you have to make ye. Then there is training camp
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Speaker 4: that you have to make the team. Then you got
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Speaker 4: four pre preseason game yeah, and so trying to make
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Speaker 4: the team.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 5: So the way I would think of it is you're
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Speaker 5: never really on the team. You know, depending on who
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Speaker 5: you are, you're never really on the team.
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Speaker 6: Like I even joke with my students this semester, and
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Speaker 6: even right right now, like I could get this phone
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Speaker 6: go start ringing nigga call, but like listen code, like
10:38
Speaker 6: did you bring your iPad up here? Like we're going
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Speaker 6: in a different route, right, And that's just the nature
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Speaker 6: of the beast. So, like you said, every single day,
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Speaker 6: I mean they always say that every day is an interview,
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Speaker 6: but like literally, like I think people don't understand that. Again,
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Speaker 6: depending on who you are, right your first round, second round,
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Speaker 6: you probably are guaranteed that first year, right, But that
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Speaker 6: doesn't mean you're guaranteed three years from now, four years
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Speaker 6: from now, right, And that's you. You just hope and
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Speaker 6: pray that young guys come in and understand that. And me,
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Speaker 6: fortunately I understood it. It was what motivated me to
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Speaker 6: want to be great and make the team and still
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Speaker 6: be here seven years later.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 6: But for a lot of guys, like I remember rookie years,
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Speaker 6: some guys would go to this mall across the street
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Speaker 6: from our.
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Speaker 5: Hotel and I remember getting on Snapchat.
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Speaker 6: Snap was like big at the time, and getting on
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Speaker 6: there and they literally walking in there selfie videos.
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Speaker 5: Stunting like we're about to census sage. And I'm like, bro,
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Speaker 5: y'all all making the same thing. I'm making right now,
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Speaker 5: which is like like maybe one hundred and fifty bucks, right.
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Speaker 8: So you had a one point two million dollar contract. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: but then you four weeks in you got demoted to
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Speaker 8: practice team right.
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Speaker 6: Now, so so you get drafted or undrafted in the spring.
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Speaker 6: So like our rookies just showed up this weekend. So
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Speaker 6: where we may whatever we are right now, we train, train, training,
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Speaker 6: you can be there's guys being cut, there's guys being signed.
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Speaker 6: That entire time, like that roster is fluctuating. And then
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Speaker 6: by the time you get the training camp. You start
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Speaker 6: training camp in late July with ninety guys on the roster,
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Speaker 6: that roster fluctuates a bit, and then by the end
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Speaker 6: of August beginning of September, that roster cuts down to
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Speaker 6: fifty three. And then on top of that fifty three
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Speaker 6: you have ten practice squad guys. I made it from
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Speaker 6: that May all the way through to August. I got cut,
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Speaker 6: became one of those practice squad guys where your salary
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Speaker 6: goes from a minimum of like four hundred thirty thousand
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Speaker 6: to one hundred thousand, and then four weeks later, four
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Speaker 6: weeks into the season, that's when I got.
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Speaker 5: Released from the team.
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Speaker 3: That's in Baltimore.
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Speaker 5: That's in Baltimore.
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Speaker 7: So none of that point two million was guaranteed, none
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Speaker 7: of it, not even none.
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Speaker 3: I wish it looks good on paper.
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Speaker 5: Though it looks good, it sounds good.
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Speaker 6: So it's also that that's the problem, that that that
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Speaker 6: you see that headline and then the vultures come getting right.
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Speaker 4: Family everybody because now it's like on paper it looks
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Speaker 4: he's a millionaire.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's interesting. I think people don't fully understand that,
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Speaker 8: Like I can't drive that home. Right, you got a
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Speaker 8: one point two million dollar contract. None of it was guaranteed.
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Speaker 8: You probably netted.
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Speaker 6: How much you net probably probably like thirty Maybe that's
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Speaker 6: how much you made from the Baltimore Ravens. Probably like
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Speaker 6: A couple hundred a week because they take your hotel
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Speaker 6: and stuff. If that's the team doesn't cover it, they
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Speaker 6: cover it, but it's.
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Speaker 5: Wow, cover it wow.
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Speaker 6: You just don't know, you know, you don't really have
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Speaker 6: a yeah anyway, so you can make it maybe a
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Speaker 6: few hundred a week, and they cover your meals and
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Speaker 6: all that stuff on the weekend, so you don't really
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Speaker 6: have too many expenses. But then as you get to preseason,
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Speaker 6: now you're making I want to say, seven hundred a
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Speaker 6: week before taxes, so you know, and that's what maybe
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Speaker 6: five to six weeks, so you really like four you know,
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Speaker 6: who knows what that is? Four hundred a week after
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Speaker 6: all dollars done.
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Speaker 5: Dollars yeah, dollars yeah. And then once the season hits.
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Speaker 6: As a practice squad guy, I was making, I was
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Speaker 6: seeing about four k after taxes.
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Speaker 5: I think my check was like.
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Speaker 6: Seven thousand, seventy five hundred per week before, so about
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Speaker 6: four thousand after and les I did that for four weeks,
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Speaker 6: so that's about sixteen right there.
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Speaker 5: So I probably made a little less than thirty from
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Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens, and then two weeks later I got
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Speaker 5: cut week four.
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Speaker 6: Two weeks later, I got picked up by the Tennessee
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Speaker 6: Titans practice squad with them for a bunch of weeks.
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Speaker 6: I got cut by them. A lot of people don't
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Speaker 6: know this too. It's like in my fan only they understand.
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Speaker 6: And it's so funny that so at Tuesday at four
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Speaker 6: pm Eastern is when your money is guaranteed for the week.
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Speaker 6: So for me and the way that my career has been,
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Speaker 6: and I'm not superstitious, but I just I have certain things.
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Speaker 5: I have my routine. My family knew.
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Speaker 6: Don't call me Tuesday after four pm Eastern, right, So,
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Speaker 6: and where does that come from?
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Speaker 5: Like I've been cut at three point fifty six pm
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Speaker 5: Eastern wild, right.
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Speaker 7: So you don't get paid, don't get paid?
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Speaker 6: Wow, So if you get cut at four oh one pm,
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Speaker 6: I'm paid for that week if I don't. So when
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Speaker 6: I was in Baltimore, they cut me on Wednesday morning
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Speaker 6: because they were like, hey, we're playing on your back.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's showing good faith you, you know, we
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Speaker 6: like you all that type of stuff. We just need
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Speaker 6: to make some other roster changes.
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Speaker 5: Blah. Blah blah blah. So you know, take the time off,
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Speaker 5: you know, go work, stay stay in shape, but we'll
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Speaker 5: bring you back this week.
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Speaker 6: Then still wait on that. But then to see one
19:00
Speaker 6: time these dudes, man, I it's funny.
19:05
Speaker 5: I went and did like a whole charity out event
19:09
Speaker 5: for him.
19:09
Speaker 6: I went, We went to a high school and uh,
19:12
Speaker 6: you know, tendn see Titans jerseys and all that type
19:15
Speaker 6: of stuff.
19:16
Speaker 5: And on the way not on the way back.
19:19
Speaker 6: Later on that evening, I had some rehabs set up
19:23
Speaker 6: a massage appointment and it's three fifty six.
19:27
Speaker 5: I get the call. I'm like this random Tennessee number,
19:29
Speaker 5: pick up the phone and man, we need you to
19:31
Speaker 5: bring in your happen Oh man, y'all knew this before
19:35
Speaker 5: you sent me on the event.
19:37
Speaker 8: The whole they sent you on the whole charity event
19:39
Speaker 8: and all that, And then they waited four minutes before.
19:42
Speaker 7: The deadline of cuntry. So you don't get paid for
19:43
Speaker 7: the week four minutes.
19:44
Speaker 3: What about the massage? You have to cancel it. Orno.
19:48
Speaker 6: To be quite honest with you, I told myself, I
19:50
Speaker 6: was like, I probably should cancer because I don't know
19:53
Speaker 6: when that next check you comes, right, right, you know what,
19:54
Speaker 6: hey man, you gotta I probably need it right now,
19:58
Speaker 6: you know, I probably need to just relax. So uh
20:01
Speaker 6: so yeah, so my family literally they would know, don't
20:04
Speaker 6: call me on Tuesday. So literally at four to one,
20:07
Speaker 6: so years later, four to one p m. Whenever I
20:12
Speaker 6: was good, I'd send them a bunch of gifts, a
20:14
Speaker 6: bunch of money, we count making it range and all
20:19
Speaker 6: that type of stuff. And then after you get to
20:21
Speaker 6: year five, uh, once that ball is kicked off in
20:26
Speaker 6: your first NFL game, then you're guaranteed your salary for
20:30
Speaker 6: the whole year.
20:31
Speaker 7: So like last year that.
20:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, so last year was my first year having that.
20:38
Speaker 6: So after that first game, I just sent them like sixteen,
20:42
Speaker 6: you know, sixteen different ones. But it's it's a lot
20:45
Speaker 6: of that goes into it, basically, you know, with what
20:48
Speaker 6: you're getting at is there's a lot that goes into
20:50
Speaker 6: it that people don't think about.
20:51
Speaker 5: They don't understand.
20:52
Speaker 6: Yes, you see that big contract, you see that big number,
20:55
Speaker 6: and that is great, right, but what are you really
20:58
Speaker 6: getting from that one out of fifty.
21:01
Speaker 5: Percent of this gun?
21:02
Speaker 7: Off off the river off?
21:03
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll talk about that because people don't fully understand
21:06
Speaker 8: how taxes work. Right, and they're like, well you should,
21:08
Speaker 8: you should set up corporation. Like their employees, they get
21:11
Speaker 8: paid just like how you get paid, right, So they
21:13
Speaker 8: don't have an opportunity to defer the income. It's not
21:16
Speaker 8: it's not an.
21:17
Speaker 5: Option, right, your boss ain't going for that exactly.
21:20
Speaker 8: So I because social media a lot of times people
21:22
Speaker 8: write that like well they if they were smart, Like, no,
21:25
Speaker 8: it doesn't work like that, just like if you were smart,
21:27
Speaker 8: you would do that, right, No, you don't have that option.
21:29
Speaker 8: So automatically fifty because you know how you tax automatically,
21:32
Speaker 8: thirty percent goes to taxes gone off the red. Depending
21:36
Speaker 8: on what state you're in, it's even higher, right right,
21:38
Speaker 8: then it's stay taxed. They take that out of your
21:40
Speaker 8: paycheck every time you get paid in that in that
21:42
Speaker 8: particular Yep, yep, they'll do that.
21:46
Speaker 6: Like if you so, if you're playing in California, so
21:48
Speaker 6: you look at the schedule, you're like, dangn I got.
21:51
Speaker 5: Three games in California.
21:52
Speaker 3: Right west coast.
21:55
Speaker 5: That you know, you get taxed at that California right,
21:58
Speaker 5: there's thirteen percent.
21:59
Speaker 8: And it's crazy because Rod Smith shout to Rod Smith,
22:02
Speaker 8: he's he's been a loyal follow up from the beginning,
22:04
Speaker 8: and anybody doesn't know Rod Smith.
22:06
Speaker 7: He's a Hall of Famer, right.
22:08
Speaker 4: Not yet, but a legend, a legend in dev Dever
22:11
Speaker 4: Broncos wide receiver Denver legend.
22:13
Speaker 8: So I put a post up a while ago and
22:16
Speaker 8: me and him, we was comming. He was like, yeah, well,
22:18
Speaker 8: people don't realize it's that all right. California has the
22:21
Speaker 8: highest state tax in the country, right, like thirteen percent,
22:23
Speaker 8: like you said. But let's say you played it in
22:25
Speaker 8: for Miami Dolphins Florida, right, which Florida has no state
22:28
Speaker 8: income tax, right, So what happens is that you might
22:31
Speaker 8: practice in Florida from Monday to let's say Thursday, right,
22:36
Speaker 8: fly when you fly out for a Sunday game Saturday Saturday,
22:39
Speaker 8: So you practice from Monday to Saturday in Florida. You
22:44
Speaker 8: are in Florida, You're in California for Saturday and Sunday,
22:48
Speaker 8: maybe like Monday morning early. So you only spent two
22:52
Speaker 8: days in California. But the whole week is taxed in
22:55
Speaker 8: California because that's where you played the game. Man, So
22:57
Speaker 8: even though you prepared like you might only spend forty
22:59
Speaker 8: eight hours in that particular state and you practiced in
23:03
Speaker 8: the state that you actually live in, but it doesn't matter.
23:05
Speaker 7: You played that game in that state. So for the
23:07
Speaker 7: whole week, the whole week's paycheck is tax in California.
23:11
Speaker 3: You guys played Jersey state tax or right, that's what
23:16
Speaker 3: got played.
23:17
Speaker 5: Okay, But I wouldn't be surprised New York trying to
23:19
Speaker 5: take a little bit of that too.
23:20
Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, New York can't take none of that.
23:25
Speaker 6: But but I wouldn't be surprised. Trust me, I'd have
23:28
Speaker 6: seen a lot. I've seen, like you said, every so
23:31
Speaker 6: when we play a team in Texas, it's like, okay, cool, right,
23:34
Speaker 6: London games, London international taxes, they cost a bit too, right,
23:40
Speaker 6: Florida teams you know, you see Miami or Tampa ballion schedule.
23:44
Speaker 5: You likes Tennessee, you know cool?
23:48
Speaker 6: Another thing, you know, a few years ago, there was
23:51
Speaker 6: a guy in the locker room when I was in Detroit. Detroit,
23:53
Speaker 6: they have the city tax and the state tax, so
23:56
Speaker 6: they'll tax you in Michigan and then they'll tax you
23:58
Speaker 6: in Detroit.
23:59
Speaker 5: Now when we so, one guy got.
24:03
Speaker 6: Very very smart financial advisor account and got very very
24:07
Speaker 6: smart with it because again, like you said, if you
24:10
Speaker 6: guys want to play the game with me, of like, okay, hey.
24:12
Speaker 5: I'm only here for twenty four hours.
24:16
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes we flying at five pm, we out
24:18
Speaker 6: the next day at five pm after the game kickoffs
24:21
Speaker 6: at one.
24:23
Speaker 5: You know, I'm only here for twenty four hours. You're
24:24
Speaker 5: gonna tax me for the whole week.
24:25
Speaker 6: I remember his issue was Detroit was taking tax every
24:31
Speaker 6: single week as if we trained.
24:34
Speaker 5: There, played there, and all that stuff, like we were
24:36
Speaker 5: there for the whole week.
24:36
Speaker 6: So when when we played with the Lions, our facilities
24:40
Speaker 6: in Allen Park, the stadium is in Detroit, Michigan, It's
24:46
Speaker 6: like a twenty minute ride. But Detroit was trying to
24:48
Speaker 6: take taxes as if you were there every single play.
24:51
Speaker 6: So they'll actually literally break down the days and be like, well,
24:55
Speaker 6: you know you were here one hundred and such and
24:57
Speaker 6: such days. So he was like, no, okay, I'm actually
25:01
Speaker 6: only there out of the what eight home games. I'm
25:05
Speaker 6: there Saturday night when we stayed at the team hotel,
25:07
Speaker 6: and I'm there Sunday when we play. So them one
25:11
Speaker 6: hundred eighty days, now you got sixteen of them, right,
25:13
Speaker 6: And so he ended up going back and getting some
25:16
Speaker 6: money from Detroit on that.
25:18
Speaker 4: So the interesting thing is like the way your mind's
25:20
Speaker 4: working right now. You're like, if I'm play in Texas, right,
25:22
Speaker 4: if I'm playing the Cowboys or the Texans, I know
25:24
Speaker 4: there's no state tech.
25:25
Speaker 3: How many of your counterparts have that same mind frame?
25:28
Speaker 6: I think a lot due, I think a lot do
25:30
Speaker 6: because I mean, at that point, you're talking about thousands, right,
25:35
Speaker 6: Like you're not talking about like you're talking about the
25:37
Speaker 6: difference in you know, depending on what you're making. You're
25:40
Speaker 6: talking about the difference in like six at your grand
25:44
Speaker 6: by playing somewhere else versus you know, I mean some guys,
25:49
Speaker 6: I mean the way they getting paid.
25:50
Speaker 5: Some guys.
25:50
Speaker 6: You're talking a good fifteen twenty grand difference, right, So
25:54
Speaker 6: guys are thinking about it again, you know, not to
25:59
Speaker 6: take up all your time. But there's different things that
26:01
Speaker 6: people out there just don't understand, like the fact of
26:05
Speaker 6: like you have to have multiple places of residency, see right,
26:09
Speaker 6: Like sometimes like you literally just have to. And I've
26:13
Speaker 6: never wanted to be that guy having Like I'm a
26:16
Speaker 6: frugal person, right, I'm cheap, cool.
26:19
Speaker 5: With me, right, I have no problem. I'm proud of it.
26:22
Speaker 6: But like I literally I have a home base here
26:26
Speaker 6: in New Jersey with my wife and I. When I
26:28
Speaker 6: was playing in Detroit, she works in Manhattan and she's
26:32
Speaker 6: from here. We had home base here, so now play
26:35
Speaker 6: with the Jets. I'm like, man, okay, like we can
26:37
Speaker 6: just have home base like and that's the crib. Well,
26:41
Speaker 6: guess what home base for me is forty five minutes
26:44
Speaker 6: away from here in no traffic. So if I wake
26:47
Speaker 6: up in the morning and it's raining hard. I remember
26:49
Speaker 6: my first day trying to come in and reporting to
26:51
Speaker 6: the Jets. It was raining hard, and my drive went
26:54
Speaker 6: from forty five minutes no traffic and this is like
26:58
Speaker 6: six thirty in the morning, right to an hour and
27:01
Speaker 6: fifteen minutes. Now people are like, oh, we'll just wake
27:04
Speaker 6: up early and all that type of stuff. Well, guess
27:05
Speaker 6: what if you're late to your job, you get a
27:07
Speaker 6: slap on the risk, right your boss. You know, at
27:09
Speaker 6: a certain point you can't keep being lated. You'll get
27:11
Speaker 6: your you get fired. But for me, if I'm late,
27:13
Speaker 6: that's a thirteen thousand dollars fine, right, Like that's.
27:18
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I'll go ahead. And so
27:21
Speaker 5: last year I had to rent a place.
27:22
Speaker 6: I have a house forty minutes from here, and I
27:25
Speaker 6: had I mean, some people might be like, well you
27:27
Speaker 6: didn't have to know. Like for me, I had to
27:30
Speaker 6: rent a place seven minutes. It's not worth the risk, right,
27:33
Speaker 6: It's not worth the risk. It's not worth being a
27:35
Speaker 6: few minutes late. And then also it's just the cost
27:37
Speaker 6: of doing business.
27:38
Speaker 7: Right, You're going to travel at forty five minutes, Yeah, forty.
27:41
Speaker 6: Five minutes when I'm like I told people, it's an
27:44
Speaker 6: investment as well, right, Like forty five minutes. That's forty
27:47
Speaker 6: five minutes I could be working on my body getting
27:49
Speaker 6: ready for the next week's game. That's forty five minutes
27:52
Speaker 6: that somebody is literally watching film with Just how am
27:54
Speaker 6: I gonna whoop Brandon coping this week?
27:56
Speaker 3: Right?
27:57
Speaker 6: And I need that forty five minutes to make sure
27:58
Speaker 6: I'm prepared for him. Well, so there's a bunch of
28:02
Speaker 6: different costs. You know, Guys talk about transporting vehicles back
28:07
Speaker 6: and forth, right, Like I live in California, but you know,
28:10
Speaker 6: on my home base, I'm born and raised in California.
28:13
Speaker 6: I have everything over there, But now I'm with the Jets, Right,
28:16
Speaker 6: how's my vehicle getting back and forth? Or am I
28:18
Speaker 6: gonna uber it every day? Am I gonna walk every day?
28:21
Speaker 6: Bike every day? What about when it's snowy? So do
28:24
Speaker 6: I need to pay the transport back a car back
28:27
Speaker 6: and forth? Do I need a rent a car? Don't
28:28
Speaker 6: need to buy a car. Some of these costs that
28:30
Speaker 6: we see guys with were like, you know, we just
28:33
Speaker 6: assumed like, oh, this guy, he's being extra, he's doing that,
28:36
Speaker 6: you know. But some of this stuff is just a
28:38
Speaker 6: cost of like convenience and doing business at a high level, right,
28:42
Speaker 6: and that you know, again, it's not a what is't
28:45
Speaker 6: us right? I'm thankful to have those type of problems
28:48
Speaker 6: as opposed to others. But you know, those are costs
28:51
Speaker 6: that you just can't escape from.
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