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INTERVIEW: Jason Lee Talks Sobriety, Political Moves, Rihanna's Friendship + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ n V, Jess hilarious,
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
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  Speaker 2: a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Counselman.
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  Speaker 4: Counselman, Jason Lee.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to be good to be back.
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  Speaker 5: How are you feeling, sir. I'm feeling good. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm out here dodging these murderers on the streets of
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  Speaker 5: New York.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes sometimes that happens.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't talking about the hood. I'm talking about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the healthcare.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, congratulations, first and foremost, thank you. Does that
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  Speaker 2: change anything with Jason Lee?
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  Speaker 1: No, He's still gonna be the same, you know.
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  Speaker 5: You know I was laughing when y'all did the Megan
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  Speaker 5: the Stallion story. He was having the messies counselming. You know,
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  Speaker 5: the reality is politics or message.
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  Speaker 1: You look at Trump.
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  Speaker 5: Trump has been able to win the highest office in
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  Speaker 5: the country, the leader of the free world with what
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  Speaker 5: he's done. And so uh No, I mean I'm evolving
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  Speaker 5: as a person. I'm in therapy thanks to you, of course,
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  Speaker 5: sober now fifteen months forty seven b Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 5: mean I'm evolving, but I'm not gonna change.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna always always just stay true to line.
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  Speaker 6: You what was the health with Hollywood was the Hollywood
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  Speaker 6: health with health care and lock health Care and lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: so you were already I'm not not ahead of the curve,
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  Speaker 6: but you were already peeping the injustices that were helping
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  Speaker 6: in the healthcare system and you decided to do something
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  Speaker 6: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean before entertainment, I worked in the labor
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  Speaker 5: movement for eleven years as the staff director for one
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  Speaker 5: of the largest healthcare unions in the world. So I
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  Speaker 5: was already doing the work and then, you know, part
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  Speaker 5: of just being active in my community. I always felt like,
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  Speaker 5: once you build your platform, you have the influence, you
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  Speaker 5: have the relationships, you should be doing something with that.
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  Speaker 5: And just the evolution of my world and the entertainment industry,
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  Speaker 5: I just kind of felt like I was falling out
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  Speaker 5: of love with entertainment because it wasn't what I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was on the outside, and I just felt like my.
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  Speaker 1: Purpose wasn't being used.
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  Speaker 5: So I just, you know, found something else to do
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  Speaker 5: with my time, went back home and ran in one.
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  Speaker 3: So how did you feel when you saw the United
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  Speaker 3: Healthcare CEO you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, it's kind of crazy because with health care and lock,
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  Speaker 5: we you know, we help low income families get access healthcare.
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  Speaker 5: We came up here with the CEO of the company
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  Speaker 5: that I partnered with and they're one of our providers.
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  Speaker 5: So to see that happen in healthcare, yeah, atters But
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  Speaker 5: I mean the craziest part was if you if you're
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  Speaker 5: the CEO of a four hundred and fifty billion dollar company,
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  Speaker 5: why you didn't have no security?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? And I saw a lot of people upset about that.
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  Speaker 6: They were saying that he had been getting so many
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  Speaker 6: threats that he should have known that he shouldn't have
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  Speaker 6: been in New York City without any security.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And on top of that, I mean, just the other day,
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  Speaker 5: I had this bad science affection.
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  Speaker 1: Went to the doctor.
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  Speaker 5: It was twelve hundred and fifty dollars just to get
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  Speaker 5: checked up for a science affection. So when I think
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  Speaker 5: about that, every average, everyday American, like in my hometown,
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  Speaker 5: where there's a lot of people who are homeless or
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  Speaker 5: out of work, I mean, people can't even afford healthcare
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  Speaker 5: in our country should be a right, but you know
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  Speaker 5: that's just not the country with living.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't get gunned down by some poor and disenfranchised person.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he got killed by a white boy that everybody's
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  Speaker 5: trying to get out of prison nowt That's the other thing, like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we have selective outrage in this country where
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  Speaker 5: you got somebody like you know this guy who now
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  Speaker 5: everybody is selling free Luigi T shirts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just wondered if security was dead with security being
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  Speaker 2: able to stop him right because he was he was
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  Speaker 2: waiting and once they walk in security in the fronty, he
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  Speaker 2: probably have shot both him in.
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  Speaker 3: The security would he tried him if he had security?
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  Speaker 1: That's true too, Sexy Red got better scaredy of h jeez.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to ask you said, you've been so before?
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  Speaker 4: How many months?
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  Speaker 1: Almost sixteen?
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations? What got you to the point where it was
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  Speaker 2: like I need to stop doing this? What was the
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  Speaker 2: last thing? Tod be like this is too much?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, why I've never told this, but I so I
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  Speaker 5: had a birthday party. I have a birthday party every year.
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  Speaker 5: I got so wasted at my party. I was drunk
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  Speaker 5: for three days. But that wasn't even the thing, because
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  Speaker 5: it was like, you know, you get older, it's harder
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  Speaker 5: to get sober or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I had woke up in my house.
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  Speaker 5: My friends, we all came back to my house after
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  Speaker 5: my party, had lots of people in my house. But
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  Speaker 5: I woke up in the morning and there were people
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  Speaker 5: in my house that I didn't know, and you didn't
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  Speaker 5: know that I did not know, and I had a
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  Speaker 5: gun in my robe, and I just thought like, if
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  Speaker 5: I would have woke up and went downstairs and found
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  Speaker 5: these people in my house, how I would have shot
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  Speaker 5: them all. I would have shot all those people, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean. So that I called my friends, like,
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  Speaker 5: why y'all leave these people at my house? They were like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the party. So for me, it was one,
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  Speaker 5: I got people around me who weren't making sure I
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  Speaker 5: was good. Two, the Bible says warning comes before destruction.
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  Speaker 5: That was a warning sign because you had a lot
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  Speaker 5: of fun, but that could have went south, and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was just was a bad thing. I didn't want
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  Speaker 5: to go out like that. And I do feel like
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  Speaker 5: people be crashing out and then there's these signs that
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  Speaker 5: come before they crashed all the way out and they
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  Speaker 5: just don't listen to them. So for me, I heard
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  Speaker 5: that sign and I just literally quit.
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  Speaker 3: And why do you have a gun in your robe?
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  Speaker 5: Though I don't know, I don't know how I got
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I got guns all over my houses. And
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  Speaker 5: then now I'm back in Stockton, California's one of the
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  Speaker 5: most dangerous cities in the States. So like, I always
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  Speaker 5: keep guns on me. I'm a concealed weapons holder. I
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  Speaker 5: think in this country right now, it's just so unpredictable.
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  Speaker 5: You should be ready to protect yourself.
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  Speaker 1: At all time.
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  Speaker 4: I have been.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, first of all, you know, I'm very inspired
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  Speaker 6: by watching you run for Stocking City Council and then win.
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  Speaker 6: But also I just was concerned because I'm like, I
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  Speaker 6: know how these people played dirty in politics.
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  Speaker 3: That was never a concern you.
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  Speaker 5: No, I played dirty too, we know, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But I built a relationship with the district attorney. Shout
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  Speaker 5: to Ron Freders. He's the most powerful man in our county.
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  Speaker 5: He's the one that you know, they because they you know,
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  Speaker 5: they gonna try the indictment games with people when they
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  Speaker 5: in politics. But see, what I did was the most
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  Speaker 5: gangster shit ever. I didn't just go back and ran.
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  Speaker 5: What happened was when I went back, there was this
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  Speaker 5: girl who got murdered at a school I used to
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  Speaker 5: go to that I graduated from, that I worked at.
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  Speaker 1: Her name was La La.
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  Speaker 5: She was a young girl who got murdered by a
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  Speaker 5: guy who just wandered on the campus, stabbed her in
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  Speaker 5: front of all her classmates. And when they called me
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  Speaker 5: and tell me that happened, I called Tiffany Hash and said, Yo, like,
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  Speaker 5: we should fly to my hometown, meet with these kids,
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  Speaker 5: just try to inspire them to like work through it.
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  Speaker 5: Because when I was a kid, there was a mass
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  Speaker 5: shooting where this guy had come on the campus, blew
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  Speaker 5: up his car and then when all the kids ran out,
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  Speaker 5: he shot him all with a AK and Michael Jackson
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  Speaker 5: had come to Stockton, and I remember as a kid
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  Speaker 5: when I was in foster care, like that was my
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  Speaker 5: first indication of what humanity and compassion was from somebody
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  Speaker 5: who didn't have to come to our hometown. So I
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  Speaker 5: just wanted to give that back to my community. We
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  Speaker 5: flew in, we met with the kids, and I remember
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  Speaker 5: going to the school and they were like, do not
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  Speaker 5: give the kids the microphone because all the news is here.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, yeah, I don't worry about it. As
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  Speaker 5: soon as we got out there, me and Tiffany looked
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  Speaker 5: at each other and then we just said, get the
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  Speaker 5: kids a microphone, you know, like we want to hear
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  Speaker 5: from them. And they were saying, you know, this schools unsafe.
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  Speaker 5: For so long, We've been telling you that this was
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  Speaker 5: gonna happen, and you all didn't care. And then now
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  Speaker 5: one of our classmates is dead. So that was the
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  Speaker 5: beginning of me saying, you know what, I now have
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  Speaker 5: all this money, platform relationships, I gotta do something to
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  Speaker 5: help my hometown. Because, as you know, we were talking
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  Speaker 5: with the vice president about what was going on in
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  Speaker 5: DC and people weren't listening. And then you get to
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  Speaker 5: a point where like you either on the outside telling
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  Speaker 5: people who don't listen, or you get in the game
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  Speaker 5: and you make people listen. So the mayor at the
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  Speaker 5: time and the vice mayor who I just beat, came
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  Speaker 5: to my home in LA and we sat down and
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  Speaker 5: we had dinner, and we talked about how do we
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  Speaker 5: help these young people, how do we know save these
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  Speaker 5: young people from being murdered and you know, sixteen year
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  Speaker 5: olds that can't read and stuff like that. And they
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  Speaker 5: made this commitment that they would do a program with
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  Speaker 5: me and I would put in a million dollars cash,
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  Speaker 5: they'd put in a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: We partner on to your program. We as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I went back to.
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  Speaker 5: My hometown and went back to Stockton to do it,
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  Speaker 5: they started politiccking the play on the city council, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and we had hundreds of people there, and this one councilman,
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  Speaker 5: he said, you know, you have all these rich friends
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  Speaker 5: like Rihanna and Floyd Mayweather. Why don't you ask him
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  Speaker 5: to help you? And that was the moment where I
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  Speaker 5: was like, Okay, y'all gonna play in my face, not
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  Speaker 5: a problem. I went back, I organized my businesses, I
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  Speaker 5: found three other people who wanted to run, and we
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  Speaker 5: put a plan together to run on a slate for
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  Speaker 5: the first time. And we all want but I want
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  Speaker 5: to shout out Kevin Hart, Floyd Mayweather, Babyface, Rihanna, everybody
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  Speaker 5: who actually got behind us. That Floyd and Kevin donated
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  Speaker 5: a lot of money to get behind the campaign, and
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  Speaker 5: we all want so now we all took control of
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  Speaker 5: the city and now it's going to be a different
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  Speaker 5: city moving forward.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, you had the nonprofit Dina that you had Rihanna Holst, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, do you save those type of favors
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  Speaker 6: for moments like that?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean, oh, like like just asking him.
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  Speaker 3: To do things.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I've never done a favor for her. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know, she Rihanna. She gave me the photos of
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  Speaker 5: her first kid and then we put out. She just
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  Speaker 5: she just believes in what we're doing. I think she
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  Speaker 5: saw the person say what he said about you know,
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  Speaker 5: go ask your rich friends, and she actually cares about
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  Speaker 5: the world. And now as a new mom, she really
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  Speaker 5: is in love with like, you know, making sure that
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  Speaker 5: kids are taking care of it and that you know,
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  Speaker 5: people are doing what they.
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  Speaker 1: Can do to help them.
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  Speaker 3: To new music.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard the new music.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lie, and I start smiling, you start smiling laughing.
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  Speaker 5: Is because one I look at some interviews when I
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  Speaker 5: talk about her, you know, that's one relationship I don't
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  Speaker 5: even want to I don't even want to talk about
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  Speaker 5: it because it's just, you know, I do love her
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  Speaker 5: so much and I care about her, and she's a
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  Speaker 5: sweet person, but she's so dialed in to what's happening.
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  Speaker 5: I've never asked to go to the studio because I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to hear anything. Because I do have a
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  Speaker 5: problem keeping secrets sometimes, and that's one that I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard the music.
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  Speaker 2: Who's your favorite celebrity to hang out with? We've seen
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  Speaker 2: you with Tiff, We've seen you with Cardi, we've seen
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  Speaker 2: you a rere.
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  Speaker 3: Who is your favorite? You just name them one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, favorite celebrity to hang out with?
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  Speaker 5: And why, well, I will say I'll say Rihanna because
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  Speaker 5: it's the it's the hanging out that you don't see,
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  Speaker 5: you know, It's there's no cameras, it's not social media,
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  Speaker 5: it's we just talk about life. We did karaoke. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's just those moments, you know. Yeah, Charlotte made
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  Speaker 5: one day. I don't know if you text your call.
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  Speaker 5: He said, you know, it's interesting how you do what
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  Speaker 5: you're doing. You have all these relationships, but yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not I don't want anymore, you know. I like the
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  Speaker 5: ones that I have. I don't know that no new friends.
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  Speaker 5: Not to quote Trake because I know he had an
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  Speaker 5: underdog right now, but yeah, just it's really weird because
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  Speaker 5: now that I am sober and I am in therapy,
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  Speaker 5: I see how I've been used many times or you know,
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  Speaker 5: the relationships just aren't really real.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want any more new friends. I'm good
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  Speaker 1: with the ones I got.
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  Speaker 5: You wouldn't have anything that you regret though, since your sobriety.
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  Speaker 5: Like I don't regret anything because I feel like everything
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  Speaker 5: I've done is a lesson. But I will say that
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  Speaker 5: when I was here, I did made that off the
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  Speaker 5: cuff comment about Jennifer Hudson.
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  Speaker 3: That's what she was literate and terrible. Okay, we don't
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  Speaker 3: need to.
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  Speaker 2: Let me say it this, let's let's play it.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think you can be critical people without
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  Speaker 5: being mean. It wasn't off the cuff, unplanned comment talking
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  Speaker 5: about something completely unrelated. But then you know after that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, of course I got all the flag. That
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  Speaker 5: wasn't why I think I want to apologize for sure,
• 10:13
  Speaker 5: because I don't really care when people have an opinion
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  Speaker 5: about me online. I saw her at the Vice President's house,
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  Speaker 5: and when I saw her, I just I felt bad
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  Speaker 5: and I wanted to say somebody was you know, what
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: do you do you do? It was the wrong setting
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  Speaker 5: to go up and have a conversation. Plus Karen Sivil
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  Speaker 5: was right there, and it was like it was already
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  Speaker 5: too much going.
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  Speaker 6: On, and you couldn't pass her no because you already
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  Speaker 6: said don't think you can read, so you will show how.
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  Speaker 5: Jesus Rice back to my apology now, because what you know,
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  Speaker 5: you know the game on the mainstream. I own my
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: own platform, so I don't play the game. I don't
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  Speaker 5: have to audition. I don't have to be good for anybody.
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  Speaker 5: I just do what I do. I leave it there
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  Speaker 5: and I go on with my business. But in this
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: world of entertainment, you know, old white men like the
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: people who owned DeMar Mercury, will find a black person
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  Speaker 5: to market to white people because that's the advertising game.
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  Speaker 5: And I just felt like at the time, you know,
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: she wasn't the best talk show host. I could have
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: been critical of that decision and criticized them, not attack her.
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  Speaker 1: To say she was the literate was wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Plus she's been through a lot of traumatic stuff, Like
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: I have been to see her in public, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: she gave me a lot of grace because she could
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  Speaker 5: have read the shit out of me. She didn't, But
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  Speaker 5: I felt bad. I'm gonna send her personal known some
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  Speaker 5: flowers and you know, piece it up with her. You know,
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  Speaker 5: at least do my part. It's not to be friends
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  Speaker 5: or anything like that, but just I just felt like
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  Speaker 5: it was unnecessary.
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  Speaker 3: So didn't y'all speaking to BP thing. You just didn't
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  Speaker 3: even go up to her.
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  Speaker 5: Nah, And I'm cool with Common too, and they were together.
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  Speaker 5: It just it was just awkward. It was one of
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  Speaker 5: the things where like I walked in the room. As
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  Speaker 5: soon as I hit the corner, she was standing there,
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  Speaker 5: and I wasn't going to walk up and have that
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  Speaker 5: conversation because as soon as I walk in the room,
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  Speaker 5: if there's ever been anything online, people automatically assume it's
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  Speaker 5: about to go down or it's just a feeling that's uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I was going to ask, you know, have
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  Speaker 4: you ever ran in a comment like because yeah and
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  Speaker 4: think about it or no.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: We me and him talked at that party too.
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  Speaker 5: Me and Common we're not friends, but you know, we
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: were friendly and we communicate a lot when he was
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: dating Tiffany, so we're We've been in each other's space,
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  Speaker 5: has been on my show.
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  Speaker 1: He's cool. I like and respect him. He didn't say anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to pictures, and it was cool.
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  Speaker 4: He keeps him, he keeps it separate, and he his handy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the comment.
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  Speaker 6: But I told Jason earlier a while ago, it's just
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  Speaker 6: like for him to do what he does, I've never seen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you called. I don't want to
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: say gossip blogger. You gave me.
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  Speaker 5: You're the one that gave me the title culture critic,
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  Speaker 5: because that when I first started doing this, they were
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: calling me everything, literally everything. I don't really care. I
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: didn't have a title. I didn't like the title blogger
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: only because I feel like in what we do will
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: be reduced to blogger when we have influenced that. You know,
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: this guy was telling me recently, because I was going
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: back and forth with this guy who wants to manage me,
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: he said, because I've never had a manager. He said,
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: you know, the challenge with managing you is that you
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: know you're controversial. And I said, well, there's good controversy
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: and there's bad controversy. I said, when Howard Stern does
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: what he does, everybody praises him. When Joe Rogan does
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: what he does, everybody praises him. And what he said
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: was he said, when they go viral, it's contained in
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: the space.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: When you go.
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: Viral, it just scatters everywhere and it's hard to to control.
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: And I thought, okay, so to me, that's the influence.
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why that's a bad thing, but you know, again,
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: we know what that is. So yeah, culture critic, once
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: you said that, I took and ran with that.
• 13:11
  Speaker 6: But to do what you do and still have the
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: relationships with celebrities is like unheard of.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: And Wendy didn't have that. I don't know if for
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Z Hilton did, but I know Wendy didn't have it.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: But I think the thing that people still fail to
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: realize is that you know, you can not like me
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: or hate me or hate on what I do or whatever,
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: I still have a relationship with you. With everybody in
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: the industry, Hollywood on Locked has a relationship.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Some just participate, some don't. You know.
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: Right now, there's this whole thing where, you know, people
• 13:38
  Speaker 5: think that I don't like jay Z or Beyonce. I
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: love Beyonce. I like jay Z. I don't know him,
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: but I love Beyonce. And but you know, the platform
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: is the platform. I am, though, backing up from Hollywood
• 13:49
  Speaker 5: Unlocked as much as I can.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: In the new year.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: I'm putting my staff out there more. I use Hollywood
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: on Loock to build my brand identity. I have it now.
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: I really want to do things that are purpose driven.
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: My community is important. My show. I'm in love with
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: my show. But outside of that and my dogs, I
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: really don't want to go nowhere.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do nothing.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: I don't want to really talk to nobody that don't
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: have anything to do with what I'm on in Hollywood
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: on lock. That thing can go and run and my
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: team is going to do that work. I still own it,
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: make all the money. But I just you had the
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: industry in what I thought it was different.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: When do you decide when you're not going to tell
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: a story or when you're gonna wait? Right, So the
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: MEGANI style of the story, you teased it months before
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: it was released.
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: By the way, I like how you set that up.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you, let me tell you why I
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: intentionally did that. And I like that you pointed out
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: that it was in July. There's so many stories that
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: we get on a daily basis, you know what I mean?
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Like I there's so many stories we got on a
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: daily basis. It's I don't get the grace for the
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: stuff we don't put out, so you'll never know, like
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: you'll never say, Jason, man, he did that because I
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: didn't do it. You know, you don't know what I
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: didn't put out. There's lots of marriages that I go, man,
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: that marriage is, that marriage is beautiful on social media
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: when it's really like there's a whole bunch of other
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: stuff behind it, or you know anyway. So I don't
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: get grace for the stuff that we don't put out.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: And I think that's the part that I'm struggling with
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: because the men and I do say something, you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: like the thing that did go viral with Beyonce. You know,
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: we did a lot to protect Beyonce and jay Z.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: That has nothing to do with this stupid story that's
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: in the news right now. That's just to me ridiculous,
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: right and unbelievable. But we did a lot to protect them.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: But because we have to deal with their handlers, you know,
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: and then they don't know the grace that their handlers
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: aren't giving us. It's this thing where people feel like
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: this we're in that old school game of you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: just deal with the help. No, I don't deal with
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: the help. I'm a principal, you a principal. If I
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: have something that's going on or you have something that's
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: going on, we can either deal with each other and
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: if not cool, then we do our job and then
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: it is what it is. But people try to judge
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: the grace that we don't give based on maybe the
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: grace we give somebody else. I'm closer to a Charlemagne
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: than I am to a Joe Rogan, So it's going
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: to be a different relationship because proximity is going to
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: change the job, and I think people are having a
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: hard time digesting that. That's why I'm just like, I
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: don't want to deal with it no more.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Deal with the platform.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: If you don't like a story, talk about it online,
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: and then we'll just keep doing the work.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Don't.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I don't get the grace that that I deserve. But
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: it's okay.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Something, he said.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: Nobody's always I say that about Wendy all the time.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: I say, the beauty of Wendy Williams is wasn't what
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: she went on the air with. It was the thing
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: she didn't talk about. Wendy could have been crushing with
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: the things she could have actually been saying, and that's
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: what I just I just that's interesting to hear you
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: say that.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Because that's the same thing.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: It's a sensitive balance though too, you know, like you
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: have somebody like a Serena Williams. We have a relationship
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: that I don't we don't promote. But you know, recently
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: I had to say, I really need you to read
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: my book because I really need you to understand like
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: the background of Hawai Am because there's knowing me Jason,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: and then there's knowing me from Instagram or social media
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: or my show, two totally different people. Back to the
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: make thing. The reason why I held onto that for
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: so long, there's a couple of reasons. One, you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I love the fact that Michael Rubin has a successful career,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: successful business is and lots of privilege that he takes
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: advantage of, and that he has the White Party. Of
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: the white party I thought was ours from a long
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: time ago, right before you know, the baby oil and
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Dildo start flying around.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Still got their job.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: But you know, but but but cultural cultural, what they say,
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: they co opt the culture they they took that. So
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: now that's the party everybody wants to go to, which
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: is great and I've been to it. It's a good party,
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: you know, when Michael's not hanging on your back.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: When I when I heard about what happened at the party,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, that really went down.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I went there. You know, I didn't get my invite.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just hold on to that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Well, Megan and Winnie, I know both of them, but
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: then just Meghan, there's so much out there with her
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: that people don't know. I just felt like, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: and the party, I'm just going to drop it. But
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: I have to win office first. That's why I had to.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Hold on to it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: I can't drop it. While I was, I already went
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: viral with the Jennifer has the thing. I'm gonna do this,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna just wait, so all way till I
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: got elected.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Then I dropped.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I was also going to ask, you know what Trump's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: soon and whin a fifth ta million dollars for somebody
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: reporting a wrong story?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah not just somebody. That was George step.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: That's why they said his last name.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: So when it comes to your staff, do you tell
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: them to make sure you understand what's going on? Because
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: now if you report a wrong story.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I reported the Queen died.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: And that's that's my point.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: If you report the wrong story, they're gonna be soon
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: now because the fact that Trump get fifteen million, in
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: the fact that Trump's about to change this.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: If you report the queen died and she didn't die,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: that usually is a career.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: But here's the deal. One, we never saw her after
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: I reported it. We didn't hot Twitter right now, everybody's
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: on Twitter. We did not see We saw a photo
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: of it that you know.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: She signed the park drinking coffee or something like that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: She was not and she was she was, she was gone.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: She was gone T shirt on.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: She had a free Windy mug.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: No, but you know, by the way, the way they
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: have locked Windy away is insane.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: No, you didn't Florida, I said, Okay, anyway, the queen.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: We didn't see her after I said she was dead.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: So even though I was on vacation when I broke that,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I you know, I kind of stand behind it, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: still I don't want to double down anymore because that
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: was just enough.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: But she was dead.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: So look, I feel like I tell my writers all
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: the time, and you know, you have to have lots.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: We have to have insurance. We have insurance for everything.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: We have millions dollars worth insurance. So if you do stuff,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: we get sued whatever. I've been sued probably more than
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: twenty times for using images we weren't supposed to use.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: But I mean, yeah, they do their research and they
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: make sure that they follow uh you know, all the
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: all the rules. But sometimes you make a mistake. That
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: was a big mistake that George made that one word. Yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: but rape versus battery and defamation, I mean wait, yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: so we have to watch it my show. On my show,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: we have insurance and stuff too, but I do have
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: to watch what I say because people are suing I'll sue.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: We should be suing it, right, jay Z should be suing,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: but he is right now.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I'll show you. I'm sure. I'm sure to be a
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: definit mission.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, your show, The Jason Leisho was coming back exclusively
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: on ZEUS.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: And you know what, I have to shot out Limeal
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Plumber too because Zeus. You know, they also aired our
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: award show, which, by the way, I hopefully you guys
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: come next year.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I still ain't been there and you got an award.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It's right there. Exactly.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: But yeah, we I mean, we're a black owned award
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: show on a black network. I mean, I've been very
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: intentional about working with black people. I mean, and Lemeo,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, he he got the chaos over there,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: but he's done a really good job of helping us
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: to platform the award show. I didn't seek out other
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: partnerships to distribute it because I really wanted to, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: keep it within our culture.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: This lot.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: This year, we honored Sharon Stone, Cardi, Jasmine Crockett being Crump,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: who else?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: We had, Christian.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Lubleton, we had a lot of different with Tiffany Havash
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: host Uh next.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Day, come to your award show.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: That's the difference between what he's doing in their podcast too.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: They're actually coming to your award show.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what happens when you know, again, this
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: is a black owned culture celebrated show. And no disrespect
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to BEC because I just worked with them yesterday.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: But you know, it's not owned by us, and I
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: think that they you know, I'm willing to go over
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: there and help them produce it. But yeah, we we
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: we individually invite all the honorees and they show up
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: this year was crazy. Next year is already gonna be crazy.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: And shout out to baby Face. He said, you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: if you want me to do your music next year,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I'll do your music.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: So we don't wow.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Wow, you know you already know who you want to
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: honor this year.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, Do you want to say it now?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: No?
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: No, because I want to lock them all in first.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: But this year is gonna be Next year's gonna be
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: bigger than ever, and we do it right there. We
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: were very intention about doing at the Hilton Ballroom where
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: they do the Clive Davis Party and the Emmys and
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: all that, because you know, we need to move our
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: stuff in spaces where they may not want us there
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: or we you know, or they think we can't afford it,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: so we we Yeah, it was great this year.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I was a Jonathan Major's moment in person.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we honor Johnathan. You know, it was great
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: when we decided to honor John Thon. You know, we
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: live in cancel culture where everybody wants to cancel culture.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And I've been against counsel culture from the beginning because
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I feel like it's it's applied unfairly.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You know, we've all been subject to it. But we
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: all still standing.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: And I think in rent space in people's head, they
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: don't understand you actually can't overcome the bus the bs
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: of cancel culture. Jonathan was an easy one. When I
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: looked at what he went through.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I look at you know, Im mattil or you look
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: at the Central Park five or times where people have
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: thrown stuff on us. That isn't true.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: And I felt like, man, this year the Impact Awards
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: is really about moments of impact throughout the opportunities to
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: create impactful conversation. And Jonathan went through a very public
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: scenario where he is one of the most talented actors
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I've ever seen, and Matt and just watch him go
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: through that with that woman, I feel like, let's let's
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: elevate the conversation of redemption. When do we get redemption?
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Like when is are we not redeemable people? You know
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: the same way I think BT missed the moment with
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Chris Brown during the Usher tribute. You should have had
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Chris there. You know, everybody deserves redemption. And when I
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: asked him to do it, we had lunch and he
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: was just emotional. I mean he was he cried because
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: he was surprised that somebody actually wanted to give him
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: that honor. When he came, I called jan Lavanza. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: asked her to present to him, and you know, at
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: first she was just like, well, let me think about this,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: and she came back and wrote her her thing. And
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: then I asked Karen Karen Clark Sheer to sing a song.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: For him.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: And then when he when he did it, it was
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: just so powerful that everybody in the room was crying
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: because he was honest about his experience and he still
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: maintained his innocence and then now to see the case
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: be thrown out after he lost so much.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: But he does have a new movie. That's that he
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that he just did that I watched. It's I mean,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a great comeback. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it was a moving moment.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Was that the magazine Dreams movie? Yep, yeah, is it
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: really good?
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: It's it's I told him. I was like, Yo, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: don't know, it's it's yeah, it's it's great.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Now, when you when you become counselmen in January, what's
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the first thing you want to do?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Well, one, we're gonna restore order in my city. Part
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: of the problem is that I told everybody, and I
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: think they haven't been listening to me on the campaign
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: til because they kind of wrote me off as he's
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: just a rich out of town celebrity, reality star bloger
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: whatever they did, and which is fine, because that was
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: a distraction. I needed to put my head down to
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: actually win. I said, I'm going to get in there
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: and audit all the measure a money, all the money
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: that you all have been spending, and.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: If I find anything, were on, y'all going to jail.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: And I meant that, and so the first thing on
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: January seventh, I'm ordering to audit and I'm on the
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: budget committee of all the money, and they know that
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: that's coming. And I can feel the shifting happening in
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: my community. I think, just how we invest in nonprofits,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: nonprofits led by women, people of color, really looking at
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: how the city can partner to invest in those that
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: are doing the real work and touching those who needed
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: the most. And then homelessness is a big issue in
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: my community. So we've been bringing folks from the state there.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: This man named Mark Fossels managing a six point three
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: eight billion dollar budget that the city never applied for.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: He's now in the city, meeting with the county and
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: city officials about how to get some of that money
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: there for homelessness and you know, just creating opportunities for
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: young people because that's that city is where I met
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Queen Latif for.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Thirty years ago. That inspired me to get in entertainment,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and that literally a locked everything.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so tell him I'm very jealous of that. Your relationship.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about you don't lie? Yeah for real?
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I told you, you know, I told her you
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: know what you said that how much you care about
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: her and love her and I'd love her too. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: ironically she's never been on either of our show never.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Ain't that crazy.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm fine with it, you know what I'm saying.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: But because she's been an inspiration from Afar her ad
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  Speaker 6: Shot Kim, Yeah, because I just always believe in in
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: building institutions, especially with black women, you know.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: And Shot Kim was one of the first brothers I
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: saw do that, Like really say, yo, me and this
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: black woman right here, we're gonna build something.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: And look what they've built.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: But you know what I learned in therapy, I respect
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: you so much for encouraging me. To go to therapy,
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: but I also don't like that you encourage me to
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: go to therapy. I'll tell you why. I think therapy
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: in many ways has made me softer.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I don't like that?
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I don't, you know, because I think it's okay to
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: have feelings, like I have feelings, right, I do have,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I believe it or not.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I have feelings.
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  Speaker 5: But I also feel like when people feel like you're vulnerable,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: they then try to take advantage of you even more.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: And I have had more people trying it, but at
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: least with sobriety and clarity.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You see it now, and I'm like, I call it out.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: What I learned in therapy though, with Queen Latifa is
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: that I feel like I had abandonment issues for my
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: mom because my mother, when she was on drugs, would
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: come to the group home and visit me or foster
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: from it, and then she would never take me home
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: with her. And it wasn't because she didn't want me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: She just was on drugs and couldn't. She just wasn't well,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: you know, and she had mental health issues and stuff.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: So because I wanted her to show up for me,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: and she didn't when I would Now that I've become
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Jason Lee and Hollywood unlocked all that and queenly Ty
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: for not showing up and my fans asking where she is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It was triggering.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't until I was in therapy I was like, well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I got abantmage, So I had to really like compartmentalize
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: that relationship and say I do.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Have access to her. I love her. She gave me
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: inspiration to pursue my dreams. She gave me this port
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: where my brother was murdered and spent time talking to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: me through that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And which is more important?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Which is that's all the more important stuff?
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: And I also know she don't want to call on
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: my show because when she does, she bring her ass
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: up there. We're gonna really talk and we when you
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: talk to your friend, you know, telling them what to
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: come out.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, But I look siate you for jordan Us
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  Speaker 4: brother of course.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Counselman Jason Lee.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: That's right, it's Jason Lee, Ladies, counselman Jason Lee.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. The
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club