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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, September 1 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimsells, John Oshanan,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sex, Jangs Drive Time. When it starts right now,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Drive Time. It is Wednesday, brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Jet Home Owns. The final fifty three man
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  Speaker 1: roster is set and we're going to talk all about
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  Speaker 1: it here on Jaguars Drive Time. Working through a practice
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  Speaker 1: squad still this afternoon that will be set. That sixteen
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  Speaker 1: additional spots for here is Brian Sexton, John Oser. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts this week and we're just
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  Speaker 1: trying to keep up. It would be a lot of
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  Speaker 1: moving parts today. I mean, in all likelihood on Reporters
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  Speaker 1: podcast last night, John that you thought, you know, six
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  Speaker 1: or seven roster moves was a reasonable number. If that's
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  Speaker 1: the case, then it's gonna be really busy day. Well,
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  Speaker 1: plus you put the practice squad together, three or four
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  Speaker 1: is reasonable even if the coach doesn't say I'm uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: with three running backs, five wide receivers and re tight
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  Speaker 1: end and eight offensive so well, there'll be a roster move.
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  Speaker 1: A j can's now on the roster right now, which
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  Speaker 1: which is why it's at eight. There will be a
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  Speaker 1: roster moved to bring him back at some point. So again,
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  Speaker 1: you guys heard me say it over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: The big myth is that it's a fifty three and
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  Speaker 1: that it has to be done on Tuesday at four pm.
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  Speaker 1: That's the date they have to get down to it.
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  Speaker 1: But the bottom line is there sixteen more in the
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  Speaker 1: practice squad. I would anticipate ten guys in the practice
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  Speaker 1: squad playing roles this year. It happens that way, and
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  Speaker 1: you know it'll be in evolving fifty three this week.
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  Speaker 1: So it's interesting with this extra week in the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: it's an extra week to massage the roster because normally
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  Speaker 1: you'd set your roster, get your practice squad, and then Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: four o'clock is that deadline where if the player is
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  Speaker 1: on the active roster vested veteran, they're guaranteed their salary
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  Speaker 1: for the entire season. So you'll you'll have two weeks
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  Speaker 1: now you have to you know, sorry, you have this
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  Speaker 1: week before next Tuesday where you can put players on
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  Speaker 1: and put players off, more time to massage and maneuver
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  Speaker 1: where the roster's concerned it. And I'm with John, I'm
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  Speaker 1: starting to think because you have that first position. Overall,
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  Speaker 1: there's no reason not to exercise it if there's a
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  Speaker 1: guy you want, absolutely agree. Big thing one is who
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  Speaker 1: is in players like Andrew Wing, Guard's Ham and Austiner
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  Speaker 1: and could be seen as somewhat of a surprise earning
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  Speaker 1: a spot. There will be sixteen additional spots. Like we
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  Speaker 1: mentioned this afternoon, Coach Meyer would like to keep all
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  Speaker 1: of the guys basically that didn't make the cut yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and zero. You know that there was a very difficult today.
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  Speaker 1: The good thing is this practice squad has been enhanced
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  Speaker 1: over the last year and a half. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think we had a trimmed by but sixteen and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to come back tomorrow at one o'clock and we're
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  Speaker 1: still working through that as we speak. So that was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more easy to deal with a little
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  Speaker 1: easier to deal with them. Just see you later. So
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  Speaker 1: we have a good chuck the guys who planned on
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  Speaker 1: if they don't get claimed coming back, all right. Big
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  Speaker 1: things two is who is out? Well, eight receivers are
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  Speaker 1: there's always my prediction that they'll keep seven receivers on
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  Speaker 1: this roster. Also, there are three running backs, so Coach Meyer,
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  Speaker 1: there's still work to be done on this roster. Right,
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  Speaker 1: that's concerned number one for me. You know we got
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  Speaker 1: Dorset is dang right now. We brought in Devin Smith
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  Speaker 1: and he goes out there and makes it you know,
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  Speaker 1: it makes it catch you if I told I haven't,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen your guys, mate. So but he's also
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  Speaker 1: at two a c LS. He's an older player, but
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  Speaker 1: he gives you the top end of the you cannot
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  Speaker 1: to top off the governed. That's my that's my biggest concern.
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  Speaker 1: And also three running backs with the E T M
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  Speaker 1: being out. So that's seven conversation. As we continue twenty
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  Speaker 1: four seven conversation, I have the feeling that Trent Bulky
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  Speaker 1: and this scouting staff probably need a cup of coffee
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  Speaker 1: this morning. It was, I'm sure a long night. And
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  Speaker 1: that is the biggest thing that I think I'm worried
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  Speaker 1: about is this wide receiver position. And I was wanted
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  Speaker 1: to say, Okay, you're gonna keep a lot of guys
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  Speaker 1: and that makes most sense. And I was surprised cutting
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  Speaker 1: guys like Dorset and La Kwan Treadwill. I understand they
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  Speaker 1: were injured, but I for one was surprised by that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was surprised they cut Dorset until Urban
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  Speaker 1: talked about the fact that he had the hammy and
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  Speaker 1: uh again, I think Dorset fits into that role of
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  Speaker 1: a guy. If there's just many guys you like, meaning Dorset, Treadwell,
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  Speaker 1: Colin Johnson, Uh, come o, mind, there are others who
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  Speaker 1: got released. They were surprised. Yeah, Jeff Cotton Jr. Was
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  Speaker 1: a guy who if you do the mask and this
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  Speaker 1: is not to be cold and it's it's not good
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  Speaker 1: for the player. But for the Jaguars, they're figured they've
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  Speaker 1: got five we like all four of these, Well, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of them are gonna be around to resign if
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  Speaker 1: we want, so that I think played into Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: like three or four these guys probably equal, but we
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  Speaker 1: really like these defensive linemen that if we put them
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  Speaker 1: out there, they're going to be gone. So this was
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  Speaker 1: roster management, and I think the reality is I think we,
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  Speaker 1: because we saw him on the practice field, maybe overplay
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  Speaker 1: the receiver corps a lot. There's three or four guy
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  Speaker 1: guys that they really really like the others. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of NFL players out there who can make the
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  Speaker 1: plays that La Kwan Treadwell the Philip Doors said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not diminishing those guys, but I think they looked
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  Speaker 1: at and said, if we lose these guys, we can
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  Speaker 1: go get receivers to do these jobs. Maybe we can't
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  Speaker 1: go get um corners or defensive lineman. The numbers that
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  Speaker 1: they kept well and remember that, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the scouts look at every player who comes out in
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  Speaker 1: the draft every year, and so they've got a running tally.
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  Speaker 1: There may be a guy who's name you've never heard
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  Speaker 1: of in Minnesota or for the Los Angeles Chargers that
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  Speaker 1: they've they're waiting, they're anticipating, you know, they go through
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  Speaker 1: and look and they count rosters as well. At cornerback,
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  Speaker 1: at defensive line, at every position. There are guys that
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  Speaker 1: they are targeting, thinking that that guy gets cut number
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  Speaker 1: one of the waiver wire, you can do this. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go grab him. He'll be the guy. So what
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  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting was I really think they only
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  Speaker 1: have four receivers on the roster right now. Because Jamal
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  Speaker 1: Agnew is a converted cornerback, a kick return guy, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't show me any ends during training camp. I
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  Speaker 1: never looked at him and thought, Okay, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: got the hands of a wide receiver. In fact, there
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  Speaker 1: were a couple of drops that made me think, you
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna keep him. He's not going to be a receiver.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to just be your return guy. Um. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got four guys there now, won't surprise me at
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  Speaker 1: all for them to go pull one of them back.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Coach Meyer was saying, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: how do you address today, and he's saying that it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like free agency all over again. I'm gonna make calls.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure this out. But you see all these
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  Speaker 1: receivers on this list, for example, and you have to decide, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what stands out and they're all available. We'll keep in
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  Speaker 1: mind the waiver wire guys are those guys that you
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  Speaker 1: can go and grab. The guys who were released are
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  Speaker 1: guys that become free agency. So there's two different things going.
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  Speaker 1: You're signing guys that you're grabbing guys off the waiver
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  Speaker 1: wire because they're not fully vested veterans. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: a choice. If you grab that guy he comes to Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: But the guys who are released are vested veterans. Who
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  Speaker 1: are guys that you have to go sign. I've got
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  Speaker 1: to think that played into it. If they were sitting
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  Speaker 1: at were teen on the waiver wire, uh, perhaps they
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  Speaker 1: make different decisions about wide receiver or running back. Sitting
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  Speaker 1: at one, they know that if they happen to lose
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  Speaker 1: one of the guys they wave, they know that there's
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  Speaker 1: probably a guy out there who's gonna get waved that
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  Speaker 1: is the equivalent player. And again when they talk about
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  Speaker 1: these things, it's more, look, we don't want to lose
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  Speaker 1: this guy, but if we do, we have Plan B
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  Speaker 1: over here at corner over here, a defensive tackle. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: Plan B is not quite as appealing as the Plan
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  Speaker 1: B running back. Give you guy. And there really aren't
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  Speaker 1: any surprises now because the coach explained everything that they
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  Speaker 1: were doing. But there is one guy. On draft weekend,
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  Speaker 1: there were two players that the coach pointed out was
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  Speaker 1: being projects, guys that need time to develop. One was
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Smith, the outside linebacker defensive end from Alabama Birmingham,
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  Speaker 1: and the other Jalen Camp. Camp is one of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, they could make his way through the
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  Speaker 1: practice squad because they like him. I was a bit
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  Speaker 1: surprised that Jordan Smith made the active roster. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I saw some things so lash shoes of him in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason, but he was one of those guys that
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  Speaker 1: was identified as being that long term, needs time guy.
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  Speaker 1: But for the reasons that you've been why, defensive end
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher is significantly harder to find that skill set
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  Speaker 1: than it is a wide receiver. You release a wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver and you can go get multiple wide receivers to
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  Speaker 1: come in and play immediately. You release a pass rusher
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  Speaker 1: that you think has some skills and that that guys
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  Speaker 1: getting up pulled up because people have seen the same
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  Speaker 1: skills that you have, and it's much rarer than it
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  Speaker 1: is to find a wide receiver. Well, making the active
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  Speaker 1: surprised me because I didn't know that I had seen
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  Speaker 1: enough from him. Obviously, the height, the length, the size
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  Speaker 1: of his hands. He had a couple of rushes where
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  Speaker 1: he impacted the quarterback, made him pull the ball down
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  Speaker 1: and throw it again. Of course it's in the second
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  Speaker 1: half of the game, but clearly he's not as raw
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  Speaker 1: as they thought he was, or they've done a really
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  Speaker 1: good job coaching him probably somewhere. Also, he's a fourth
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  Speaker 1: round pick. Which means some other team and they moved
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  Speaker 1: up to get him right, so they believed that he
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  Speaker 1: had what top hundred and twenty in the draft value
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  Speaker 1: top hundred fifty. So they're feeling if we let him
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  Speaker 1: go some other team that had a hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: value that the coach went out of his way to
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  Speaker 1: say on draft weekend, that's going to take time, right,
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  Speaker 1: And the other side of the coin is you obviously
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  Speaker 1: didn't have enough linebackers to greet the competition that would
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  Speaker 1: push him out. Yeah, totally agree, all right, and not
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  Speaker 1: a big things. We have much more to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that comparing and contracting that final fifty three man roster,
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  Speaker 1: We'll go to the tight end. They kept three right.
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  Speaker 1: They kept Chris man Hurts, whom they love and his
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  Speaker 1: primary role, as the head coaches said time again, is
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  Speaker 1: he moves people right. And they kept Luke Farrell, who
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  Speaker 1: the coach told me in a broadcast production meeting was
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  Speaker 1: one of the best blocking tight ends in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: So you got two of them for a team that
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  Speaker 1: wants to be able to run the ball with power.
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  Speaker 1: The position that has just created all swords of issues
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  Speaker 1: for this team is trying to find a tight end.
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  Speaker 1: They've drafted them, they've paid them big money, Julius Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't been able to do it. James O'Shaughnessy is
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  Speaker 1: in his fifth season in Jacksonville. Now okay um. He's
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  Speaker 1: made a couple of big catches in the Steelers game
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs in seen Um was starting to come
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit in twenty nineteen with Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: before he got injured. But he's a guy they've tried
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  Speaker 1: to replace. So the question is, do you hit the
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  Speaker 1: waiver wire hard, do you swing some sort of a trade,
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  Speaker 1: or do you go with James O'Shaughnessy as that receiving
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  Speaker 1: tight end. To coach it yesterday, he's their best receiving
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  Speaker 1: tight end in that room and was during training camp
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  Speaker 1: better than Ellepson, better than Tyler Davis. So who would
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  Speaker 1: you take? Would you trust James o'show want to see
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  Speaker 1: or would you go hit the waiver wire and trade
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  Speaker 1: hard because you think you know what he is? And
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  Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'd go with him. Well, I think
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  Speaker 1: they will. I think the other option is, oh, Shaughnessy's here,
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  Speaker 1: and there's also another guy come in. I think at
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  Speaker 1: some point you'll wind up seeing four tight ends on
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  Speaker 1: the roster, because in this day and age to say
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  Speaker 1: tight end is sort of Misnow there's really two tight
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  Speaker 1: ends on the roster. Now, I think you will eventually
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  Speaker 1: carry two blocking tight ends. And we got that great
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  Speaker 1: the other receiving and uh, and keep o Shaughnessy or
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  Speaker 1: Shaughnessy maybe a guy that if if, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to play games with in terms of roster management, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: you can keep him as well. Remember when my heart
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  Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks ago was ben Ellefson will
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  Speaker 1: be the leading tight end. Not too late and he'll
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  Speaker 1: be back and he'll be around held be the leading
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  Speaker 1: tight end. But hot sake is coming true or not?
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  Speaker 1: Just got nice hands. Uh, he has an act for
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  Speaker 1: getting open. He's not a game breaker of any sort.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say this, I noticed during the games
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  Speaker 1: that he was standing next to Trevor Lawrence a lot
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  Speaker 1: talking to him. Uh. I think they developed a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a relationship. We'll see. I'd be surprised if Ben
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  Speaker 1: Alison doesn't play six seven years in the NFL. He's
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys who sticks around, whether it's here
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  Speaker 1: or I think he's pretty good. My this or that
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  Speaker 1: defensive line or safety will be the deepest position. The
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  Speaker 1: reason I mentioned this is Urban talked about both of
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  Speaker 1: these spots. Really thinks they've got a lot on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive line and thought they had eight safeties in camp
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  Speaker 1: who are NFL players where he's probably right. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go with defensive line being the deepest, um, probably because
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  Speaker 1: I hope it's the deepest, because it needs to be.
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  Speaker 1: I really like the top three guys up there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be anxious to see how their death
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  Speaker 1: plays out, how they continue to stop the run. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll go with defensive line right now as the
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  Speaker 1: deepest spot on the roster and Jaguars fans, let's hope
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  Speaker 1: that's right. I'll go with the defensive line as well.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason is and not just sheer numbers. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Andre Cisco is a guy you're counting on. He's a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: You're not doing that up front. You've got a more
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  Speaker 1: veteran group of players that you're expecting to contribute. Young
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Calavan, Jason's young, but he's he's been through
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  Speaker 1: that rookie season and figured out the speed of the game.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll say the defensive line, although I really do
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  Speaker 1: like the competitiveness in the depth, even without Jared Wilson,
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  Speaker 1: who's a guy who has thirty stars. Um, you know
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  Speaker 1: I said this last year over and over and over
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  Speaker 1: with Daniel Thomas. Watched Daniel Thomas, right and then the
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  Speaker 1: coach was saying at the end of camp, Daniel Thomas
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  Speaker 1: is really coming on primarily on special teams, but he's
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  Speaker 1: got he's got a nose for the ball as well.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the athlete that Cisco appears to be. But
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  Speaker 1: I think Daniel Thomas is one of those guys who
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  Speaker 1: will play here for a long time. He is the guy,
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  Speaker 1: not Cisco that moved Jared Wilson off the roster. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Coach Meyer mentioned with the safety position, evaluating it, you
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  Speaker 1: had to contribute on special team. But I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: When I saw Jared Wilson's name on that list, it
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  Speaker 1: was weird because that's a guy that you just see
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  Speaker 1: you so dependable, and he's been here. It was just
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  Speaker 1: it was odd to see his name. He has been
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  Speaker 1: and he's been a good special teams player. Uh. I
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  Speaker 1: do believe that he's a guy that they would try
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  Speaker 1: to get back, try to retain the practice squad because
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  Speaker 1: of that reliability. Um, at some point, if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to improve from one in fifteen, you need to improve
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  Speaker 1: the roster overall. And that's what happened the safety position.
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  Speaker 1: He beat the odds by the way, I mean people
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: forget he was an undrafted rookie. He was here in seventeen.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: He's played a lot of football. Um, I'd like to
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: see him back, But at some point, those guys, they're
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: always in the mode of being replaced. His career is
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: not over. A special teams guy who can also play safety,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that kind of experience, I'll bet he placed three or
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: four more years in the league either here. He'll be
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: good guy too, all right? By this or that is
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: kind of a headline from yesterday afternoon, and this or
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: that is head coach Urban Meyer. Would you like him
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to lie or would you like him to be for
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: real and say what every other team is thinking? In
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a sich suation, head coach of amyra Main news about
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the vaccination status of a player and how he said
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: it it didn't play a little bit of a factor,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and who you keep? So should the head coach, liar
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: should say what every other team is thinking? At this point,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'll pull up Peter King's tweet right now, which I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: thought was very honest in this situation. Of course it's
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a factor, and he tweets out I could not agree more.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It's the forty spot on the roster. Same you're in
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: between two guys. One's vaccinated, one isn't. One is out
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: ten days if he's a close contact. The other misses
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: nothing with a negative test. And I know that it
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: definitely was a headline, but I see nothing wrong with this.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I see nothing wrong with the head coach of Amira
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: being honest. And of course it's a factor at the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: bottom of the roster. He kind of gave you a
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: hint when he started talking about Josh Allen's situation, right
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he said, Josh Allen was one of those guys he
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: put the asterick there. I don't know whether I can
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: say this or not. You know, didn't have the vaccine
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and then he did. But he said, which I kind
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of like to s's it's my nature. Um. But he
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: he talked about how punitive it was that he didn't
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: have code, but that he didn't test positive, but for
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: ten days he had to be sitting on the sidelines.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And that told you right there, they're considering this thing
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: as everyone is. Because forget jos John because you're not
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: going to cut him. But when you're looking at guys
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: you're depending on, right Gunner. I had this conversation with
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: someone this morning who who didn't quite understand why he
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: would say that when I said that ten days for
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: just a close contact for someone you're depending on as
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a gunner on special teams or a key component in
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: your nickel package, right one of those safeties and he
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: has to miss game or just managing your roster. It's
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a pain and everybody, Look, this was not a moral,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you know statement, but remired. But the rules, it's about
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: what's my best way to manage this team to make
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: sure that I've got as full of roster every week
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: as possible. Well, the way the rules are set up,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it's obvious, you know it's the NFL's rules that cause
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this situation, not Urban Meyer and the n f L
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: p A and the NFL collaborate on all of the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: COVID protocols. I mean, you saw this week that it
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: was the NFL p A that was pushing hard for
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: vaccinated players to be tested weekly instead of every two weeks.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So it's I mean, the NFL p A is gonna
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: investigate it because they've got to take care of their uh,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: their constituency. They've got to talk about this and see
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: if there's another issue they need to change. But the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: reality of it is is that what they're doing is
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: perfectly allowed in a private organization. Right. They're not requiring
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that a player have a vaccine, but they're saying if
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you don't, which is, by the way, what a lot
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of us here out in society. Yes, I saw nothing
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: wrong with it, and I saw the tweets and I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I have to say something about this,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and you did. I did it was this or that
• 19:40
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• 19:43
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  Speaker 1: for Ashlyn asked around the league. We have lots of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: questions after final Rosco's four sets. Number one has to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: do with the Patriots releasing quarterback Cam Newton, which means
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: mac Jones has won the starting job, but it absolutely
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was a headline slash last Number one, Where does Cam
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Newton play this year? Does he play this year? Does
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: he start this year? Is he on a team? Maybe
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: picks a new hobby. We'll see. John Well, I'm gonna
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: go I don't necessarily believe this, but I think it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a possibility with nowhere, um only because he you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: he's not the same guy that he was. But even
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: beyond that, you wonder what the COVID thing with He's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: clearly unvaccinated because that was an issue in New England.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I believe I'm right on that, so, um, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: is it worth it to sort of worry about that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the only guy who's unvaccinated clearly
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: he's not. But I don't think it would be nowhere.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I think it may take longer than it would in
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a normal circumstance. I say Arizona, Arizona. Um, and maybe
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's that I still think Kyler Murray is
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: due to have someone fall on him. I mean someone big,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: wrap him up, although he's he's been durable so far. Um.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is really the driving force in my thought
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: on this, and that is that he's an unconventional coach.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: He's willing to do things that other coaches might not be.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm going with Arizona because he's a big, strong
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: arm quarterback just like Kyler Murray. Right, um Man, can
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: he run as he proved the last two years? Um yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I mean the guy can run. So I would say
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Arizona like that, just a random thought out there. Cincinnati
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: was another that I considered, just because you've got Joe
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Burrow coming back from the knee injury and a strong
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: arm quarterback might fit in there as well. Maybe Philadelphia
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: too because the Dallas as well. You don't like that,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I do Dak Prescott. It's up in the air. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: think I think Dallas is a place where Jake Luton
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: could end. You know what I mean, delopmental quarterback Connor
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Rush is better than than Jake Luton. I didn't see
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it the other day, no way. I mean, I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that there are young quarterbacks out there, and look there
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: their salary cap is in a situation with the quarterback
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and the amount of money that they're paying contract. Yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that you need a young developmental quarterback behind them. And
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Luton's the guy we didn't talk about the top that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I was surprised, and maybe he gets through waivers. But
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of places in this league that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: wouldn't like to have a young developmental strong arm, especially
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: with COVID and the quarterback situation and all that. I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: like that A nice hot take from you, all right?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: As number two regular season coming up? Week one, the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Jaguars travel to Houston, Texas. Does DeShawn Watson play versus
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars week one? It's time to start game planning,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: so we gotta figure this out, John, Yeah, well this
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is easy. This is a hard note. He never plays
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: for the Texans again, so he won't play Week one. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I happened to have in preparation I talked to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: John McLean the Houston Chronicle last night. Uh, he says,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the reporting out there nationally is so wrong on on
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson. John says, inside the Texans as it
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: gets uh, he's out to believe the name plays for
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the Texans again, he'll be on the roster. They're waiting
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: for a trade. So no way he plays week one. Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: My answers, why why would you do that? Right now?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: He is healthy. He is a guy that has maximum value.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: But if you put him out there and he gets
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: hurt and creates question mark at all? Um, if you
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: ever do get the ability to trade him, meaning someone
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is willing to give you what you want, or the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: league clears him or the legal system clears him. Um,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you want him to have maximum value, you just wouldn't
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: risk it. Oh John, I like the preparation way to go. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: all right, that's number three. Now that the final roster
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: is set, some what what are you most nervous? Who
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: are you most nervous to play? If you're the Jaguars,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So what are you saying? Again, you're saying which team
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: looks to be the best team? Yes, say your head
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: coach of Meyer. And now you're looking at all these rosters.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: They're set, and you look at that one game and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you're like, Eke, that could be a tough one. What's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that game? Who's that team? Do they have to actually
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: be playing them or not? Yes, that's key. Really, Yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: here's why this team is better against the run. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: believe they're better against the run. Derrick Henry is capable
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of making look like them look like they're not better
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: again to the run. It's just this is the team
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that this team has to get over. They just have.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: The Titans are not a great team, but they overpower
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: this team. I want a tough team that can run
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the ball and stop the run. I look at that
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Titans and I think that is a massive challenge. Still
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: still outside the division, I'm drawing up blank on opponents. Seattle,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: there we go. Why this one? I'll say the Rams.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I think they're pretty good and uh, they go on
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the road against them, and they're really really talented and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: their defense can pressure you. I don't know that this
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: offense yet. I think that team will be a huge
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: test for this offense. I think this Jaguars defense is
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: going to be better than I anticipated it would be.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: In the off season, and we saw what Matt Stafford
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: is capable of last year here when he gets hot, right,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I think the I think the Rams defense will be
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the ultimate test for a Jaguars offense that I think
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: we'll be developing most of the season. Because of Lawrence,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a chance. Uh. I don't know that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: they love yet their wide receiver position, meaning the Jaguars
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that they want to be faster. I don't know that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it's going to be as potent without Travisy Tan as
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: they hoped. So I think there's gonna be a lot
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of questions. The Rams gonna be a tough test because
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of that, all Right, I like it that is Ashland
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