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- 0:16When Fred Met Asuka by Trevor Lister This presentation considers the short
- 0:21competition life of two cars intended to run at Indianapolis in 1950 that
- 0:25ended up in New Zealand six years later.
- 0:27In 1956, two brothers traveled to Italy intending to purchase
- 0:30a car to race back home.
- 0:32They returned with three, two IndyCars and a 1930s 6CM.
- 0:36The first part of this paper covers the modest racing history
- 0:39of these cars in New Zealand.
- 0:41The second explores an identity policy that popped up while exploring the role
- 0:44of the engines in setting the tipos and individual identities of these cars.
- 0:49The policy did not set chassis numbers nor even give engine numbers.
- 0:53Rather, it set out to describe the features of the engine as used on
- 0:57a particular car, for instance, as it applied to the 1938 8CTFs.
- 1:02The eight C part of the description tells us that there are eight cylinder
- 1:06engines and the TF bit that these particular engines had fixed cylinder
- 1:09heads taken together, we get an eight CTF car, but eight CTF is an engine
- 1:14description, not a car one, the conundrum to be explored in this presentation.
- 1:18On leaving high school at the end of 1966, Trevor Lister was
- 1:22apprenticed to an engineering company that designed and built all types
- 1:25of materials handling equipment, along with road and farm vehicles.
- 1:28He was employed primarily in the drawing office, along with stints on
- 1:32fabrication and assembly in the workshop.
- 1:34Trevor entered the University of Canterbury on a public service
- 1:37scholarship, graduating with a double degree in physics
- 1:39and mechanical engineering.
- 1:41On graduation, he worked in the Ministry of Transport in setting administration
- 1:45of motor vehicle safety standards.
- 1:47This led to a secondment to a national research and development organization
- 1:50where he was responsible for research on a wider range of alternative
- 1:53motor vehicle fuels and also an international consultancy in that area.
- 1:58On completion, he returned to his foundational automotive design
- 2:01skills and motor sports hobby.
- 2:02In semi retirement, Trevor took up teaching and tutoring pre apprenticeship
- 2:06students in mathematics and the science behind automotive engineering.
- 2:10In full retirement, he took on the role of classic motor racing club
- 2:13of New Zealand newsletter editor.
- 2:15This presentation has been narrated on behalf of Trevor
- 2:18Lister by Revel Arroway from Your Listening to Radio Revel podcast.
- 2:23When Fred Met Aska, Part 1.
- 2:27The Zambuca Family.
- 2:30Fred was the eldest of five brothers.
- 2:32Post World War II, he joined his father's business trading from
- 2:35a yard beside their family home.
- 2:37The yard included a large shed that contained war surplus army equipment,
- 2:42including trucks, cars, and motorcycles.
- 2:46When an itch to race came along, the shed contained the wherewithal to do
- 2:50so, in the form of a stripped out DeSoto that gave up its chassis and running
- 2:54gear to become a typical Kiwi special.
- 2:58In time, it was replaced by a string of obsolescent Maseratis,
- 3:03an HCM in 1953, and the two HCLT Indianapolis cars mentioned above.
- 3:10These two HCLT cars are the focus of this presentation.
- 3:18Fred raced from 1950 to 1956 with modest success.
- 3:24The photos show the HCM and the DeSoto Special, caught mid spin
- 3:29with its prominent waterfall grille.
- 3:33Between Fred and its next owner, the DeSoto had a working
- 3:37career from 1951 to 1957.
- 3:42Not bad for a Kiwi Special.
- 3:44But by 1953, Fred was looking for something a little faster.
- 3:49He had hoped to buy a New Zealand domiciled Alfa Romero Tipo B,
- 3:54but the car went elsewhere.
- 3:56So it wasn't until the following year that he parted company with
- 4:00the DeSoto, upgrading to a Maserati HCM, imported from England.
- 4:07Towards the end of 1954, Fred ran the HCM in the Australian Grand Prix, this
- 4:14on a road not previously used for racing.
- 4:17A period race report described the HCM as being, quote, almost uncontrollable on
- 4:23the bumpy Queensland country back roads.
- 4:27Staying a little longer in Australia, Fred fared better on a smoother
- 4:30surface, setting a new Australian speed record of 158 miles per hour,
- 4:36254 kilometers per hour, in the 8CM.
- 4:43Back in New Zealand, and now much better acquainted with the car, Fred
- 4:46qualified on the second row of the grid for the 1955 New Zealand Grand Prix.
- 4:51A spin into the hay bales early on compromised his race, but he
- 4:55came home a creditable second.
- 4:577th, and the second New Zealander home,
- 5:02when Fred met Oscar Part Two, Change in the Wind.
- 5:09Change was already at hand, with the local rear engine Coopers now showing
- 5:13an ability to compete with the older, but more powerful pre war machines.
- 5:18More Coopers were on the way, but Fred chose a different
- 5:21path for his 1956 season.
- 5:24Where others went small, he went big, going for a more powerful
- 5:29version of the older breed.
- 5:31The HCM went to a new owner, and Fred went to Italy.
- 5:36He returned with three cars, and a plan to both race the cars himself,
- 5:40and to hire them out to others.
- 5:43A Scuderia Zambuca, if you will.
- 5:47What was on offer in Italy was a pre war 6CM.
- 5:52and the two eight CLTs that had been built for use at Indianapolis
- 5:57in 1950, but couldn't be completed in time for that race.
- 6:02Fred and one of his brothers found them in a dark corner of
- 6:05the OSCA works while looking for suitable cars for their Scuderia.
- 6:10Other accounts say the cars were at the Maserati factory in Modena.
- 6:13Maybe, maybe not.
- 6:16The Asuka brand was a path of retreat for the Maserati brothers following
- 6:21the expiration of their 10 year service agreement with the Orsi family.
- 6:25There are instances where the Maserati brothers took on upgrades and repairs
- 6:29to orphaned Maseratis, Bira's 4.
- 6:325 liter Asuka being an example, but whichever workshop they were
- 6:37in Fred purchased both cars.
- 6:42These two orphaned cars have been dubbed as 8 C L T.
- 6:48They were commissioned by Francesco Roll for an attempt at the Indy 500 in 1950.
- 6:55However, the nominated driver, Farina, decided to focus on the
- 7:00upcoming Formula One season instead.
- 7:02It didn't help that the cars were serial overheaters that couldn't be modified and
- 7:07repaired in time for shipment to Indy.
- 7:09Accordingly, the cars never went beyond their 1950 test sessions,
- 7:13and still hadn't turned a wheel in anger the five years since.
- 7:18So, when Fred took the cars on, he was taking a big gamble.
- 7:25Their first race outing ever was at the January 1956 New Zealand Grand Prix, one
- 7:31for Fred, and the second for the Scuderia.
- 7:35The second car failed to qualify, with Fred on the third row of the grid.
- 7:40He lay 8th halfway through, at which point his car demonstrated that the
- 7:44problems that had prevented it running at Indianapolis were still in play.
- 7:50Fred trailed home 12th, with the new owner of his older HCM
- 7:54claiming 8th place position.
- 7:57The overheating problem was handled by an instruction to the Scuderia
- 8:01drivers to not exceed 4, 000 rpm.
- 8:04How very apt.
- 8:06The cars could easily run to 6500 RPM, at which point valve bounce would set in.
- 8:11Both cars still exist, one in the United States and the other in New Zealand.
- 8:18Sadly, Fred Zambuca raced the cars only once, and then only one of them.
- 8:23In May 1956, he suffered a brain hemorrhage and died.
- 8:27Both cars were sold to Frank Schuter via Fred's estate.
- 8:31One of them, car 3036, raced on, courtesy of Frank who acted as custodian
- 8:37for the cars, overhauling them both while squeezing in a half dozen or
- 8:42so of race entries with car 3036.
- 8:46The last recorded race entry for car 3036 was in the 1961 New Zealand Grand
- 8:51Prix, after which it found a new owner in England, and is now in the United States.
- 8:58In due time, the second car, 3037, found its way into Southwards Motor
- 9:03Museum, where it has rested since 1963,
- 9:09when Fred met Oskar, Part III, the 8 CTF family.
- 9:16The Orsi family enabled the Maserati family Grand Prix race car development
- 9:21work to continue, resulting in the 1938 1939 HCTF, the eight cylinder,
- 9:31fixed head engine known as the HCTF, Was first named by the Orsi family
- 9:37who kept this arrangement throughout their manufacturer with engines
- 9:41identified as eight CTFs in 1938.
- 9:45The HC bit tells us that these were eight cylinder cars and the
- 9:50TF bit tells us that their engines had cylinder heads fixed Test.
- 9:55The visa taken together, we get an eight CTF car.
- 10:02Remember though, eight CTF is an engine description.
- 10:06Not a car description.
- 10:10First emerging in 1938, the HCTFs were well capable of taking on the
- 10:15German teams in terms of speed, but were unreliable when raced.
- 10:20The first of them made its race debut in Tripoli in May 1938, and
- 10:25from that point on, this engine family, and its later progeny,
- 10:29can be split into three subgroups.
- 10:33Uh, keep in mind that the existing Formula One teams had been put on notice that
- 10:38from 1947 onwards, supercharged cars would be restricted to no more than 1, 500 cc,
- 10:45a stricture that essentially finished the eight CTF racing careers in Europe.
- 10:50Little wonder, then, that a number of them ended up in the Americas, or elsewhere.
- 10:57The early eight CTFs, subgroup one, three off.
- 11:03Two cars ran in Europe in 38, commonly identified as 30 30 and 30 31.
- 11:10Note that it was standard Maserati practice that engines set the identity
- 11:15of the cars into which they were fitted.
- 11:18As noted earlier, the numbers in the letters of the eight CTFs tell us
- 11:22that we have cars carrying 30 31.
- 11:24Eight cylinder engines with integral cylinder heads,
- 11:28testa fissa, or fixed heads.
- 11:31So, 3030 and 3031 are, strictly speaking, engine numbers, not chassis numbers.
- 11:39Also note that the C, the F, and the T all relate to specific engine features,
- 11:46not chassis or running gear features.
- 11:48The first two HCTFs found their way to Indianapolis in 1940 and
- 11:57stayed there for many a year.
- 12:01Car 3032 had managed this trick a little earlier, but had been found on
- 12:06delivery to have cracked cylinder blocks.
- 12:09A replacement engine was provided, held to be engine 3033.
- 12:14If that be true, then we may have an identity point to explore.
- 12:21The HCLs, subgroup 2, two off.
- 12:27The cars that went from Italy to Indianapolis in 1940 included
- 12:31an HCL driven by Raul Rigante, on his way home to Argentina.
- 12:36This car was identified as the Transcripts provided by
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- 12:54just in time to go into wartime storage.
- 12:58It later emerged in the hands of Pascual Puopolo in the post war
- 13:03Temporada races from 1946 to 1952.
- 13:08As an aside, Pascual was one of Fangio's companions on the Auto Club of Argentina
- 13:13mission to the USA and Europe in 1949.
- 13:18A similar car, identified as the 3035 was entered by Scuderia Milano
- 13:24for Biloresi to run at Indianapolis, with some success in 1946.
- 13:30Returning to Italy, it later turned up driven by either Farina
- 13:34or Villoresi, or both, accounts vary, in the 1948 Temporada races.
- 13:40In his 1961 autobiography, Fangio's account of who drove what and where
- 13:45in 1948 places Villoresi in a Quote, 1500 cc, four cylinder Maserati and
- 13:54Farina in a quote, three liter four CLT.
- 13:59This firsthand account places farina in the HCL and REI in a four CL.
- 14:06It also puts a fly in the ointment by quoting the T bit as part of
- 14:10the description for this car.
- 14:12T for tubular.
- 14:15But again, Maserati practice was that engine numbers determined
- 14:18the identity of the car they were placed in, and the chassis number
- 14:22was the same as that of the engine.
- 14:25All in all, there is no ground for calling either of these cars anything other than
- 14:30HCTFs, as they have all the distinguishing engine features of the earlier cars.
- 14:39The 1950 HCLTs, subgroup 3,
- 14:45Our two target cars make up the last group.
- 14:49They were built to run at Indianapolis in 1950, and intended to be driven by
- 14:54Farina and Roll, these two looking to take advantage of a new arrangement in Formula
- 14:59One by which drivers placing at Indy also qualified for World Championship points.
- 15:05But, these cars became no shows when overheating problems were encountered
- 15:09while testing the cars in Italy.
- 15:11Troubles that couldn't be rectified in time for the cars to make the trip
- 15:14to the USA, after which they were tucked away either in the Maserati
- 15:19or Oscar workshops, accounts vary.
- 15:22There they stayed until Fred Zambuca and his brother took them
- 15:25back to New Zealand in early 1956.
- 15:28They made their first ever race appearance in the 1956 New Zealand
- 15:32Grand Prix, identified as 3036 and 3037.
- 15:39These two cars were the final iteration of the underlying 8CTF design.
- 15:44Their engines were built from two 4CLT units end on end, with fixed cylinder
- 15:49heads and four valves per cylinder, this time in a scaled up 4CL chassis with a
- 15:56dose of extra wheelbase to hold it all in.
- 15:59Hence, 8CLT describes the New Zealand cars.
- 16:05Here again, as they have all of the distinguishing engine features
- 16:08of the earlier cars, There is no ground for calling these
- 16:11cars anything other than HCTFs.
- 16:17Postscripts.
- 16:20Fun times following engines.
- 16:24A few years ago, Trevor Lister and Donald Capps took a good hard look
- 16:28at the processes used at Maserati when identifying their race cars.
- 16:33This work was directed specifically at the 1950s Maserati 250F Grand Prix
- 16:37cars, but their findings also held good when applied to other Tipos,
- 16:42including Maserati, that is, 1928.
- 16:45Put simply, the cars were identified according to the engines that went into
- 16:50them, not their chassis identification.
- 16:53Further, when a car received a new or replacement engine, the
- 16:56car was re identified according to the number of the replacement
- 17:00engine, not the original engine.
- 17:04engine.
- 17:05Trevor and Don's work on the 250Fs is available on request.
- 17:11It then occurred to them that the car identifications quoted in the
- 17:15available histories were as much the gift of the commentators as
- 17:18of the factory that made them.
- 17:20Below is a straightforward example of this, illustrating
- 17:23what happened at Maserati when the identification tags were handed out.
- 17:29Postscript 1, a bit of calibration.
- 17:33In 1934, Maserati began manufacture of a new design of six cylinder race cars.
- 17:39These were assembled on the existing chassis of the 8CM.
- 17:44If the chassis number was set in the car ID, then these new hybrid
- 17:49cars would carry identities in the 8CM sequence, but not so.
- 17:54The six cylinder engines in these cars set the identity of these cars,
- 17:59not their brand new 8CM chassis.
- 18:02These days, we call these cars 6CMs, that is, six cylinder engines.
- 18:08Monopostos.
- 18:10A caution.
- 18:11The 6CMs referenced above had engines quite different in
- 18:15character from those of the 8CMs from whence they got their chassis.
- 18:19That is, they had six cylinders rather than eight and a
- 18:22displacement beginning at 3.
- 18:243 liters that eventually reached 3.
- 18:267 liters.
- 18:28Despite this, they still share the engine numbering sequence of the earlier 8CM 3.
- 18:343s.
- 18:35Stretch the approximation a little and consider that 3.
- 18:383 and 3.
- 18:397 liters are still less than 4 liters.
- 18:43So, the 3.
- 18:440 bit, as the first two digits of the engine number, is not compromised.
- 18:52Postscript 2.
- 18:54This table follows the 3.
- 18:550 liter 30xx sequence of engines from 1930s onwards,
- 19:00beginning with the HCMs of 1933.
- 19:03These engine numbers start at 30 05.
- 19:06The 30 bit tells us that we are looking at a 3 liter engine, and the 05 bit
- 19:10denotes that this is indeed the 5th engine of that size ever made by Maserati.
- 19:16The table below starts in 1933, and ends with the introduction
- 19:21of the 300S sports cars in 1955.
- 19:26This is not the end of the 30XX series of engines.
- 19:30In 1955, the 300S sports cars appeared in the lists, bringing their engine stream
- 19:36with them, which is not surprising, given the five year gap between the end
- 19:40of the 8CLs and the rise of the 300S.
- 19:44What is surprising is that there is a 14 engine gap in the engine
- 19:49numbering sequence between these two streams of three liter engines.
- 19:54That is a lot of standalone or replacement engines.
- 19:58Any help solving this mystery would be appreciated.
- 20:03Postscript three.
- 20:06These photos show José Freulein González racing an Argentine Mecánica
- 20:10Nacionale car at about the same time that Fred was finding his feet with
- 20:16the DeSoto Special in New Zealand.
- 20:19Half a world apart, yet the resemblance between the two cars is remarkable.
- 20:25A situation that often occurs when digging into Argentine and Kiwi race history, a
- 20:30topic perhaps for next year's symposium.
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