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40 Years Since Maradona's Infamous Goal: Insights from Terry Fenwick · Team of the eighties

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  Taylor.
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  Oh,
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  what
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  a
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  goal
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  by
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  Peter
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  Taylor.
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  Maradoni
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  just
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  walked
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  away
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  from
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  huddle,
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  then.
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  Appealing
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  for
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  offside.
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  The
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  ball
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  came
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  back
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  off
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  the
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  foot
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  of
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  Steve
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  Hod
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  and
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  Maradona
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  gives
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  Argentina
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  the
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  lead.
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  Terry.
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  Terry
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  Fennec,
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  mate,
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  What
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  a.
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  What
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  an
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  absolute
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  pleasure
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  to
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  have
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  you
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  here
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  on
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  the
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  pod.
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  How
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  you
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  doing,
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  mate?
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  Gary,
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  it's
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  been
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  a
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  long
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  time
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  there.
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  You
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  and
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  I,
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  friends
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  for
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  decades.
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  Matt,
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  so
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  long,
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  it's
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  been
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  fantastic.
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  It's
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  lovely
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  to
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  see
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  you,
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  mate.
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  You're
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  looking
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  well.
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  All
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  right.
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  Well,
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  you
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  also,
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  and
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  I
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  know
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  that
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  you,
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  you
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  very
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  much
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  so
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  take
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  care
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  of
• 0:58
  yourself.
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  So,
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  yeah,
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  I'll
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  take
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  that
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  from
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  you.
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  Thank
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  you
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  very
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  much.
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  Yeah,
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  50
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  years,
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  mate.
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  So
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  that's
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  a
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  long,
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  long
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  time.
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  You.
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  I
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  don't
• 1:08
  know
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  if
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  you
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  heard
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  the
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  stuff
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  I
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  did
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  with
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  Nico
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  and
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  stuff,
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  but,
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  you
• 1:12
  know,
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  this,
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  this,
• 1:13
  this
• 1:13
  podcast
• 1:14
  is
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  all
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  about,
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  you
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  know,
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  how,
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  how
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  you
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  started
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  and,
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  and,
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  and
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  the
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  team
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  of
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  the
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  80s,
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  because
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  that
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  was,
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  it
• 1:20
  was
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  a
• 1:20
  feeling.
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  It
• 1:21
  was
• 1:21
  not
• 1:21
  only
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  just
• 1:22
  a
• 1:22
  football
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  thing,
• 1:22
  but
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  there
• 1:23
  was
• 1:23
  a
• 1:23
  feeling
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  around
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  the
• 1:24
  club
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  there,
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  and
• 1:24
  you
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  could
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  really
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  feel,
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  feel
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  the
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  change
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  in
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  the
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  club
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  and,
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  and,
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  and
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  the
• 1:29
  vision.
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  And
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  so
• 1:32
  going
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  back
• 1:32
  to
• 1:32
  you
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  as,
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  As
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  a
• 1:33
  kid
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  up,
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  you.
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  You
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  was
• 1:34
  born
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  in
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  CM
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  harbor,
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  right?
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  CM
• 1:36
  Harbor,
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  County
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  Durham.
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  It's
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  a
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  little
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  coastal
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  town
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  north
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  of
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  cm,
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  south
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  of
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  CM
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  and
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  inland.
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  We
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  had
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  three
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  coal
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  mines,
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  and
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  in
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  between
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  the
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  three
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  core
• 1:51
  mines
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  was
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  CM
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  Arbor.
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  And
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  if
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  you
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  didn't
• 1:52
  work
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  down
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  the
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  mine,
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  you
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  didn't
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  work.
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  That
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  was
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  how
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  it
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  was.
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  We
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  were
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  all
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  coal
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  miners,
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  kids.
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  It
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  was
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  incredible.
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  That
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  was
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  at
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  a
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  time
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  when
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  nobody
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  locked
• 2:02
  the
• 2:02
  doors.
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  Every
• 2:03
  door
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  was
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  open.
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  You
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  could
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  run
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  into
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  your
• 2:04
  neighbor's
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  house,
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  enjoy,
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  have
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  some
• 2:06
  fun.
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  Every
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  kid
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  was
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  out
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  on
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  the
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  street
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  playing
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  football.
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  It
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  was
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  amazing,
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  mates.
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  And
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  my
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  God,
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  I
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  can't
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  believe
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  I'm
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  the
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  only
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  one
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  that's
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  come
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  out
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  of
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  that
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  area
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  because
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  there
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  were
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  so
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  many
• 2:18
  footballers
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  I
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  thought
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  were
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  better
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  than
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  me.
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  Right,
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  right,
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  right,
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  right,
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  right.
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  There
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  was
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  a
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  big,
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  big
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  breeding
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  ground
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  ground
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  of
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  players
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  there,
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  right?
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  Absolutely.
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  Like,
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  there's
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  some
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  good
• 2:28
  quality
• 2:28
  there.
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  When
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  you,
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  when
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  you,
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  when
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  did
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  you
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  play?
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  Obviously
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  you
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  play
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  for
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  your
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  school,
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  but
• 2:32
  then
• 2:32
  is
• 2:32
  there,
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  there
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  a
• 2:33
  county?
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  Where
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  is
• 2:34
  it
• 2:34
  that
• 2:34
  you
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  first
• 2:35
  started,
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  when,
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  when
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  was
• 2:37
  it
• 2:37
  you
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  first
• 2:37
  got
• 2:38
  scouted
• 2:38
  up
• 2:39
  there
• 2:39
  and,
• 2:39
  and
• 2:40
  who.
• 2:40
  What
• 2:40
  clubs
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  were
• 2:41
  in
• 2:41
  for
• 2:41
  you?
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  Well,
• 2:42
  we
• 2:43
  went,
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  this
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  was
• 2:44
  seeing
• 2:44
  boys.
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  We
• 2:45
  went
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  for
• 2:47
  a
• 2:48
  tournament
• 2:49
  in
• 2:49
  Jersey,
• 2:50
  Channel
• 2:50
  Islands,
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  and
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  we
• 2:53
  won
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  competition.
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  I
• 2:54
  was
• 2:54
  voted
• 2:55
  player
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  of
• 2:56
  the
• 2:56
  competition.
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  And
• 2:58
  while
• 2:58
  I
• 2:59
  was
• 2:59
  there,
• 3:00
  there
• 3:00
  was
• 3:00
  several
• 3:01
  scouts,
• 3:01
  but
• 3:01
  there
• 3:02
  was
• 3:02
  one
• 3:02
  for
• 3:02
  Crystal
• 3:02
  palace,
• 3:03
  and
• 3:04
  at
• 3:04
  the
• 3:04
  time,
• 3:04
  under
• 3:05
  Malcolm
• 3:05
  Allison,
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  they
• 3:07
  were
• 3:07
  in
• 3:08
  the
• 3:08
  third
• 3:08
  Division,
• 3:08
  Gary.
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  But
• 3:10
  everybody
• 3:11
  knew
• 3:12
  Malcolm
• 3:12
  Allison,
• 3:12
  the
• 3:13
  hat,
• 3:14
  the
• 3:15
  sheep
• 3:15
  ski,
• 3:16
  all
• 3:16
  of
• 3:16
  that.
• 3:16
  He
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  was
• 3:17
  like
• 3:17
  a
• 3:17
  legend
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  at
• 3:18
  the
• 3:18
  time.
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  And
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  pretty
• 3:20
  much
• 3:20
  when
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  I
• 3:21
  look
• 3:21
  back,
• 3:23
  they
• 3:23
  took
• 3:23
  me
• 3:23
  down
• 3:24
  to
• 3:25
  Crystal
• 3:26
  Palace.
• 3:27
  I
• 3:27
  spent
• 3:27
  a
• 3:27
  weekend
• 3:28
  there.
• 3:29
  They
• 3:29
  then
• 3:29
  brought
• 3:30
  my
• 3:30
  mom
• 3:31
  and
• 3:31
  dad
• 3:32
  from
• 3:32
  northeast
• 3:33
  down
• 3:33
  to
• 3:34
  London.
• 3:35
  Malcolm
• 3:35
  Allison
• 3:36
  took
• 3:36
  my
• 3:36
  dad,
• 3:36
  dad
• 3:37
  to
• 3:37
  the
• 3:37
  game.
• 3:38
  He
• 3:38
  give
• 3:38
  my
• 3:39
  mom
• 3:39
  £60
• 3:40
  and
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  chauffeur.
• 3:42
  And
• 3:42
  the
• 3:42
  chauffeur
• 3:43
  took
• 3:43
  her
• 3:44
  up
• 3:44
  into
• 3:44
  London's
• 3:45
  to
• 3:45
  do
• 3:45
  some
• 3:45
  shopping.
• 3:46
  And
• 3:47
  she
• 3:47
  came
• 3:47
  back
• 3:48
  and
• 3:48
  she
• 3:49
  said
• 3:49
  to
• 3:49
  me,
• 3:49
  my
• 3:50
  dad,
• 3:50
  she
• 3:50
  said,
• 3:51
  alan,
• 3:52
  I've
• 3:52
  only
• 3:52
  spent
• 3:53
  £10.
• 3:54
  I've
• 3:54
  kept
• 3:54
  £50
• 3:55
  of
• 3:55
  it.
• 3:55
  That
• 3:56
  was
• 3:56
  more
• 3:56
  than
• 3:56
  a
• 3:56
  month's
• 3:57
  money
• 3:57
  for
• 3:57
  me
• 3:57
  dad,
• 3:58
  mum
• 3:58
  and
• 3:58
  dad.
• 3:58
  It
• 3:59
  was
• 3:59
  crazy.
• 4:00
  Yeah.
• 4:00
  That
• 4:01
  was
• 4:01
  Malcolm
• 4:01
  Allison.
• 4:02
  That
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  the
• 4:02
  genius
• 4:02
  of
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  man.
• 4:03
  And
• 4:03
  this
• 4:03
  was
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  guy
• 4:04
  that
• 4:05
  was
• 4:05
  putting
• 4:05
  together
• 4:06
  the
• 4:06
  best
• 4:07
  youth
• 4:07
  team
• 4:09
  Great
• 4:09
  Britain's
• 4:10
  ever
• 4:10
  known.
• 4:10
  Imagine,
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  won
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  FA
• 4:12
  Youth
• 4:12
  cup
• 4:12
  two
• 4:13
  consecutive
• 4:13
  years.
• 4:14
  Yes.
• 4:15
  Seven
• 4:15
  out
• 4:15
  of
• 4:16
  them
• 4:16
  players
• 4:16
  that
• 4:17
  started
• 4:17
  in
• 4:17
  the
• 4:17
  team
• 4:18
  became
• 4:18
  international
• 4:19
  footballers.
• 4:20
  Yeah.
• 4:21
  Kenny
• 4:22
  Sampson,
• 4:23
  left
• 4:23
  back
• 4:24
  83
• 4:25
  times
• 4:25
  for
• 4:26
  England.
• 4:26
  Peter
• 4:27
  Nicholas,
• 4:27
  Jerry
• 4:28
  Murphy,
• 4:29
  you.
• 4:29
  All
• 4:30
  of
• 4:30
  these
• 4:30
  great.
• 4:31
  Yeah.
• 4:32
  Oh
• 4:33
  my
• 4:33
  God,
• 4:33
  there's
• 4:34
  so
• 4:34
  many.
• 4:34
  Matt
• 4:35
  and
• 4:35
  yeah,
• 4:36
  I.
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  love
• 4:37
  them
• 4:37
  all.
• 4:37
  I
• 4:38
  still
• 4:38
  keep
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  touch
• 4:39
  on
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  Internet
• 4:40
  every
• 4:40
  now
• 4:40
  and
• 4:40
  again.
• 4:40
  We'll
• 4:41
  pop
• 4:41
  a
• 4:42
  few
• 4:42
  things
• 4:42
  out.
• 4:42
  Vince
• 4:43
  Hilaire
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  I
• 4:44
  are
• 4:44
  still
• 4:44
  very
• 4:44
  close
• 4:45
  and
• 4:45
  yeah,
• 4:45
  Vince
• 4:46
  is
• 4:46
  great,
• 4:46
  wonderful
• 4:46
  people,
• 4:47
  man.
• 4:47
  Yeah.
• 4:48
  No,
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  mean
• 4:51
  a
• 4:51
  great
• 4:51
  bunch
• 4:52
  of
• 4:52
  lads,
• 4:52
  but
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  great
• 4:53
  talent.
• 4:53
  And
• 4:54
  like
• 4:54
  winning
• 4:54
  the
• 4:55
  Youth
• 4:55
  cup
• 4:55
  twice.
• 4:56
  And
• 4:57
  I
• 4:57
  do
• 4:57
  believe,
• 4:59
  if
• 4:59
  my
• 4:59
  memory
• 5:00
  serves
• 5:00
  me
• 5:00
  correctly,
• 5:01
  you
• 5:01
  score
• 5:01
  both
• 5:02
  in
• 5:02
  both
• 5:02
  those
• 5:02
  games.
• 5:03
  In
• 5:03
  you.
• 5:04
  I
• 5:04
  scored
• 5:04
  the
• 5:05
  only
• 5:06
  goal
• 5:06
  in
• 5:06
  both
• 5:07
  finals.
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  think
• 5:08
  I'm
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  only
• 5:08
  guy
• 5:08
  to
• 5:09
  have
• 5:09
  done
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  before.
• 5:10
  Yeah.
• 5:11
  And
• 5:12
  I
• 5:12
  actually
• 5:12
  scored
• 5:12
  a.
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  was
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  first
• 5:14
  fullback
• 5:14
  to
• 5:15
  score
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  an
• 5:15
  actual
• 5:15
  FAA
• 5:16
  cup
• 5:16
  final.
• 5:17
  Staying
• 5:18
  rod
• 5:18
  with
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  long
• 5:18
  throw
• 5:18
  for
• 5:19
  Queen
• 5:19
  Spark
• 5:19
  Rangers.
• 5:22
  Roberts
• 5:22
  was
• 5:23
  Hazel's
• 5:23
  flick
• 5:24
  and
• 5:24
  Fennec
• 5:24
  was
• 5:25
  in
• 5:25
  there
• 5:25
  and
• 5:25
  it's
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  goal.
• 5:27
  Terry
• 5:28
  Fenic.
• 5:32
  Yeah.
• 5:32
  Yeah,
• 5:32
  you
• 5:32
  were.
• 5:33
  Yeah.
• 5:33
  So
• 5:34
  it
• 5:34
  was
• 5:34
  something
• 5:35
  in
• 5:35
  me
• 5:35
  that
• 5:36
  whenever
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  cook
• 5:36
  final
• 5:37
  come
• 5:37
  around,
• 5:38
  I'll
• 5:38
  put
• 5:38
  myself
• 5:39
  out
• 5:39
  there
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  get
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  go.
• 5:42
  So
• 5:43
  playing,
• 5:45
  I
• 5:46
  mean,
• 5:46
  I
• 5:47
  heard
• 5:47
  a
• 5:47
  very
• 5:47
  similar
• 5:48
  story
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  course
• 5:49
  it.
• 5:49
  It's
• 5:49
  Malcolm's
• 5:50
  charisma,
• 5:50
  Right.
• 5:51
  So
• 5:51
  his
• 5:52
  charisma,
• 5:52
  his
• 5:53
  charm,
• 5:53
  which
• 5:54
  came
• 5:54
  so
• 5:54
  naturally
• 5:55
  to
• 5:55
  him.
• 5:55
  You
• 5:56
  just
• 5:56
  don't
• 5:56
  have
• 5:56
  characters
• 5:57
  like
• 5:57
  that
• 5:57
  around
• 5:57
  in
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  game
• 5:58
  anymore.
• 5:58
  You
• 5:58
  just
• 5:59
  don't.
• 5:59
  You
• 5:59
  know,
• 5:59
  back
• 5:59
  in
• 6:00
  those
• 6:00
  days
• 6:01
  there
• 6:01
  was
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  few,
• 6:01
  I
• 6:02
  would,
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  would
• 6:02
  argue,
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  know,
• 6:03
  but
• 6:04
  it
• 6:04
  was
• 6:04
  his
• 6:04
  charm.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:06
  of
• 6:06
  course
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  think
• 6:08
  by
• 6:08
  that
• 6:08
  was.
• 6:08
  Was
• 6:09
  Terry
• 6:09
  at
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  club
• 6:09
  by
• 6:10
  then.
• 6:10
  Terry
• 6:11
  was
• 6:11
  his
• 6:11
  number
• 6:11
  two.
• 6:11
  Yes.
• 6:12
  Yeah.
• 6:13
  So
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  Know
• 6:13
  the
• 6:14
  two
• 6:14
  together
• 6:15
  combined.
• 6:16
  When
• 6:17
  you're
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  kid
• 6:18
  and
• 6:18
  you're
• 6:18
  thinking,
• 6:19
  wow,
• 6:19
  you
• 6:19
  know,
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  could
• 6:20
  really,
• 6:20
  I
• 6:21
  could
• 6:21
  really
• 6:21
  do
• 6:21
  something
• 6:21
  there.
• 6:22
  But
• 6:22
  was
• 6:23
  there
• 6:23
  any
• 6:23
  other
• 6:23
  clubs
• 6:23
  in
• 6:24
  for
• 6:24
  you?
• 6:25
  Well,
• 6:25
  I
• 6:25
  went
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  Liverpool.
• 6:28
  Yeah.
• 6:28
  Legionnighted
• 6:29
  Legion.
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  had
• 6:30
  sent
• 6:30
  me
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  letter
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  post
• 6:33
  and
• 6:34
  it
• 6:34
  was
• 6:34
  a
• 6:34
  contract
• 6:34
  for
• 6:35
  me
• 6:35
  to
• 6:35
  sign
• 6:35
  it.
• 6:35
  And
• 6:35
  they
• 6:36
  didn't
• 6:36
  send
• 6:36
  anybody
• 6:37
  up
• 6:37
  in
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  agent.
• 6:39
  Don
• 6:39
  Revy,
• 6:40
  nobody.
• 6:41
  Wow.
• 6:42
  Went
• 6:42
  across
• 6:42
  to
• 6:43
  see
• 6:43
  them.
• 6:43
  Bill
• 6:43
  Shankley
• 6:44
  was
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  manager
• 6:45
  at
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  time.
• 6:46
  Bill
• 6:46
  took
• 6:46
  me
• 6:47
  down
• 6:47
  into
• 6:47
  the
• 6:47
  dressing
• 6:47
  room.
• 6:48
  Imagine
• 6:48
  all
• 6:48
  of
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  top
• 6:49
  stars
• 6:50
  yesterday
• 6:50
  at
• 6:51
  Liverpool.
• 6:52
  That
• 6:52
  was
• 6:52
  like
• 6:53
  wow
• 6:53
  for
• 6:53
  me.
• 6:54
  He
• 6:54
  must
• 6:54
  have
• 6:54
  impressed
• 6:55
  you.
• 6:55
  Yeah.
• 6:55
  Oh
• 6:55
  my
• 6:56
  God,
• 6:56
  it
• 6:56
  was.
• 6:57
  We
• 6:57
  went
• 6:57
  through
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  trophy
• 6:58
  cabinet
• 6:58
  and
• 6:58
  all
• 6:59
  that.
• 6:59
  It
• 6:59
  was
• 6:59
  brilliant.
• 7:00
  Yeah.
• 7:01
  Shanks
• 7:01
  was
• 7:02
  unbelievable.
• 7:03
  What
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  gentleman.
• 7:04
  He
• 7:05
  held
• 7:05
  my
• 7:05
  hand
• 7:06
  everywhere
• 7:07
  around
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  boardroom.
• 7:08
  Took
• 7:08
  me
• 7:08
  down
• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  stairs,
• 7:09
  never
• 7:09
  let
• 7:09
  go
• 7:10
  of
• 7:10
  me
• 7:10
  hand.
• 7:11
  Took
• 7:11
  me
• 7:11
  into
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  dressing
• 7:12
  room,
• 7:12
  introduced
• 7:12
  me
• 7:13
  to
• 7:13
  everybody,
• 7:13
  kept
• 7:14
  holding
• 7:14
  me
• 7:14
  hand.
• 7:14
  I
• 7:15
  just
• 7:15
  couldn't
• 7:15
  believe
• 7:15
  it.
• 7:16
  This
• 7:16
  was
• 7:16
  Bill
• 7:16
  Stantley.
• 7:17
  Yes.
• 7:18
  In
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  British
• 7:19
  football.
• 7:19
  And
• 7:20
  he's
• 7:20
  looking
• 7:20
  after
• 7:20
  me
• 7:21
  like
• 7:21
  he.
• 7:21
  My
• 7:21
  dad.
• 7:24
  Yes.
• 7:26
  What
• 7:26
  did
• 7:26
  he
• 7:26
  say?
• 7:27
  Some
• 7:27
  people
• 7:27
  think
• 7:27
  football
• 7:28
  is
• 7:28
  a
• 7:28
  matter
• 7:28
  of
• 7:28
  life
• 7:28
  and
• 7:29
  death.
• 7:29
  It's
• 7:29
  more
• 7:29
  important
• 7:30
  than
• 7:30
  that.
• 7:30
  And
• 7:31
  that
• 7:31
  story
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  just
• 7:32
  told
• 7:32
  me
• 7:33
  just
• 7:33
  typifies
• 7:34
  the
• 7:35
  man,
• 7:35
  you
• 7:35
  know.
• 7:38
  So,
• 7:38
  yeah,
• 7:39
  you
• 7:40
  win
• 7:40
  the
• 7:40
  Youth
• 7:40
  Cup,
• 7:41
  Crystal
• 7:41
  palace,
• 7:41
  you're
• 7:41
  surrounded
• 7:42
  by.
• 7:43
  When
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  broke
• 7:44
  by,
• 7:44
  you
• 7:45
  know
• 7:45
  there's
• 7:45
  great
• 7:46
  players
• 7:46
  there.
• 7:46
  When
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  broke
• 7:46
  into
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  side
• 7:48
  because
• 7:48
  you
• 7:48
  as
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  midfield
• 7:49
  player,
• 7:49
  right
• 7:50
  in
• 7:50
  the,
• 7:50
  in
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  youth,
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  the,
• 7:51
  in
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  youth
• 7:52
  team.
• 7:53
  Gary.
• 7:53
  I
• 7:54
  played
• 7:54
  every
• 7:54
  position,
• 7:55
  man.
• 7:55
  Yeah,
• 7:55
  Yeah.
• 7:56
  I
• 7:56
  was
• 7:56
  central
• 7:56
  midfield
• 7:57
  one
• 7:57
  minute
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  was
• 7:58
  center
• 7:58
  back,
• 7:58
  the
• 7:59
  next
• 7:59
  minute
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  was
• 8:00
  right
• 8:00
  back.
• 8:01
  When
• 8:01
  Kenny
• 8:02
  was
• 8:02
  sold,
• 8:02
  Kenny
• 8:02
  Sanson
• 8:03
  was
• 8:03
  sold
• 8:03
  from
• 8:04
  palace
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  Arsenal.
• 8:06
  Yeah.
• 8:06
  They
• 8:06
  moved
• 8:07
  me
• 8:07
  into
• 8:07
  left
• 8:07
  back.
• 8:07
  To
• 8:08
  left
• 8:08
  back.
• 8:08
  Yeah.
• 8:08
  To
• 8:09
  cover
• 8:09
  for
• 8:09
  Kenny.
• 8:10
  Yeah.
• 8:11
  But
• 8:12
  I,
• 8:12
  I,
• 8:12
  I've
• 8:13
  got
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  say
• 8:13
  this.
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  had
• 8:14
  some
• 8:14
  wonderful
• 8:14
  people
• 8:15
  around
• 8:15
  me.
• 8:15
  I
• 8:16
  came
• 8:16
  up
• 8:16
  through
• 8:16
  John
• 8:17
  Cartwright,
• 8:18
  he
• 8:18
  was
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  coach.
• 8:19
  What
• 8:19
  a
• 8:20
  fantastic
• 8:20
  guy.
• 8:21
  What
• 8:21
  a
• 8:21
  great
• 8:22
  coach.
• 8:23
  And
• 8:24
  when
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  was
• 8:25
  breaking
• 8:25
  into
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  team,
• 8:27
  my
• 8:27
  roommate
• 8:28
  was
• 8:28
  Jim
• 8:28
  Cannon.
• 8:30
  What
• 8:30
  a
• 8:30
  legend
• 8:31
  Jim
• 8:31
  Cannon
• 8:32
  is.
• 8:32
  What
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  player.
• 8:33
  What
• 8:33
  a
• 8:33
  lovely
• 8:34
  man.
• 8:34
  And
• 8:36
  for
• 8:36
  me,
• 8:37
  he
• 8:37
  was
• 8:37
  somebody
• 8:37
  I
• 8:38
  looked
• 8:38
  up
• 8:38
  to
• 8:38
  all
• 8:38
  of
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  time.
• 8:39
  This
• 8:39
  was
• 8:40
  Jim.
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  wanted
• 8:40
  to
• 8:41
  be
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  next
• 8:41
  Jim
• 8:41
  Cannon.
• 8:43
  Palace.
• 8:43
  What
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  fella.
• 8:45
  Some
• 8:45
  great
• 8:45
  people
• 8:46
  around
• 8:46
  us,
• 8:46
  mentors,
• 8:48
  great
• 8:48
  examples.
• 8:51
  Terry
• 8:51
  brought
• 8:52
  in
• 8:52
  George
• 8:52
  Graham,
• 8:53
  remember?
• 8:54
  Yeah.
• 8:55
  And
• 8:55
  George
• 8:55
  coming
• 8:55
  from
• 8:56
  Arsenal,
• 8:56
  what
• 8:56
  a
• 8:57
  legend
• 8:57
  he
• 8:57
  was
• 8:57
  in
• 8:57
  the
• 8:58
  game
• 8:58
  and
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  sharing
• 9:00
  of
• 9:01
  information
• 9:01
  was
• 9:01
  incredible.
• 9:02
  Gary
• 9:03
  guys
• 9:04
  had
• 9:04
  done
• 9:04
  it
• 9:04
  at
• 9:04
  every
• 9:05
  level.
• 9:05
  Terry
• 9:05
  Venables,
• 9:06
  what
• 9:07
  player?
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  the
• 9:08
  coach.
• 9:09
  Malcolm
• 9:11
  was
• 9:11
  so
• 9:11
  different
• 9:11
  to
• 9:12
  everyone
• 9:12
  else.
• 9:13
  And
• 9:13
  you
• 9:13
  see
• 9:15
  when
• 9:15
  you
• 9:15
  look
• 9:15
  back
• 9:15
  at
• 9:16
  British
• 9:16
  football
• 9:16
  generally.
• 9:18
  The
• 9:18
  English
• 9:18
  affair
• 9:19
  didn't
• 9:19
  want
• 9:19
  Cluffy
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  be
• 9:20
  manager.
• 9:21
  Right.
• 9:22
  Because
• 9:22
  he
• 9:23
  would
• 9:23
  rub
• 9:23
  people
• 9:23
  up
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  wrong
• 9:24
  way.
• 9:25
  They
• 9:25
  were
• 9:25
  frightened
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  Big
• 9:27
  Mal.
• 9:27
  Yeah.
• 9:28
  Because
• 9:28
  he
• 9:28
  had
• 9:29
  so
• 9:29
  many
• 9:29
  different
• 9:29
  ideas,
• 9:30
  but
• 9:30
  everywhere
• 9:31
  he
• 9:31
  went
• 9:31
  he
• 9:31
  was
• 9:31
  successful.
• 9:32
  Yeah.
• 9:33
  But
• 9:33
  they
• 9:33
  wouldn't
• 9:33
  stick
• 9:34
  by
• 9:34
  him.
• 9:34
  They
• 9:34
  wouldn't
• 9:35
  give
• 9:35
  him
• 9:35
  a
• 9:35
  chance.
• 9:36
  And
• 9:36
  then
• 9:37
  it
• 9:37
  took
• 9:37
  Terry
• 9:37
  Venable
• 9:38
  so
• 9:38
  long
• 9:38
  to
• 9:39
  get
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  England
• 9:39
  job
• 9:40
  when
• 9:40
  he
• 9:41
  should
• 9:41
  have
• 9:41
  been
• 9:41
  in
• 9:41
  there
• 9:42
  much
• 9:42
  earlier.
• 9:42
  Yeah.
• 9:43
  Imagine
• 9:44
  all
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  clubs
• 9:44
  he
• 9:45
  went
• 9:45
  to,
• 9:45
  then
• 9:45
  Barcelona
• 9:46
  before
• 9:47
  he
• 9:47
  comes
• 9:47
  back
• 9:47
  to
• 9:48
  get
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  England
• 9:48
  job.
• 9:49
  Yeah.
• 9:51
  We.
• 9:52
  As
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  said,
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  am
• 9:53
  very
• 9:53
  proud
• 9:54
  of
• 9:54
  being
• 9:54
  English.
• 9:54
  Absolutely.
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  love
• 9:56
  my
• 9:56
  country.
• 9:57
  Yeah.
• 9:57
  No,
• 9:57
  I.
• 9:58
  And
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  comes
• 9:59
  across.
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  mean,
• 10:00
  obviously
• 10:00
  I
• 10:01
  follow
• 10:01
  bits
• 10:01
  and
• 10:01
  pieces
• 10:02
  you
• 10:02
  do
• 10:02
  on.
• 10:03
  On
• 10:03
  social.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:04
  that
• 10:04
  definitely
• 10:05
  comes
• 10:05
  across
• 10:05
  in.
• 10:06
  In
• 10:06
  your.
• 10:07
  Your
• 10:07
  manner
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  how
• 10:07
  you
• 10:08
  speak
• 10:08
  about
• 10:08
  your
• 10:08
  country.
• 10:09
  Yeah.
• 10:11
  Going
• 10:11
  up
• 10:11
  there
• 10:12
  through
• 10:12
  Crystal
• 10:12
  palace.
• 10:12
  And
• 10:13
  obviously,
• 10:13
  I
• 10:13
  know
• 10:13
  you
• 10:13
  had
• 10:13
  a
• 10:14
  very
• 10:14
  close
• 10:14
  relationship
• 10:14
  with.
• 10:15
  With
• 10:15
  Terry
• 10:15
  Vanderwolf.
• 10:18
  How
• 10:19
  many
• 10:19
  appearances?
• 10:19
  You
• 10:20
  didn't
• 10:20
  make
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  many
• 10:20
  appearances
• 10:21
  for
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  club.
• 10:21
  Right.
• 10:21
  Your.
• 10:22
  Your
• 10:22
  bulk
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  your
• 10:23
  playing
• 10:23
  career
• 10:23
  was.
• 10:23
  A
• 10:24
  qpr,
• 10:24
  right
• 10:25
  toe.
• 10:25
  Yes.
• 10:26
  Yeah.
• 10:26
  Yeah.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  made.
• 10:28
  I
• 10:28
  think
• 10:28
  it
• 10:28
  was
• 10:28
  46,
• 10:30
  47
• 10:30
  games
• 10:31
  for
• 10:31
  PUPs.
• 10:33
  Mainly
• 10:33
  at
• 10:33
  left
• 10:33
  back.
• 10:33
  Right.
• 10:34
  Mainly
• 10:35
  at
• 10:35
  left
• 10:35
  back.
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  played
• 10:36
  well.
• 10:37
  Left
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  right
• 10:37
  back.
• 10:38
  I
• 10:38
  played.
• 10:39
  And
• 10:39
  two
• 10:40
  or
• 10:40
  three.
• 10:41
  I
• 10:41
  made
• 10:41
  my
• 10:41
  debut
• 10:41
  in.
• 10:42
  In
• 10:42
  midfield
• 10:43
  against
• 10:43
  Tottenham
• 10:44
  Hotspur.
• 10:45
  Wow.
• 10:45
  And
• 10:46
  we
• 10:46
  drew.
• 10:46
  This
• 10:47
  was
• 10:47
  at
• 10:47
  white.
• 10:47
  Art
• 10:47
  lynn.
• 10:48
  We
• 10:48
  drew
• 10:48
  2.
• 10:49
  2.
• 10:50
  That
• 10:51
  was
• 10:51
  a
• 10:51
  tough
• 10:51
  one.
• 10:52
  It
• 10:52
  was
• 10:52
  a
• 10:52
  tough
• 10:53
  one.
• 10:53
  Yeah.
• 10:54
  Glen
• 10:54
  Otto
• 10:54
  in
• 10:54
  there
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  stuff.
• 10:55
  Right?
• 10:55
  Correct.
• 10:56
  Yeah.
• 10:57
  But
• 10:57
  imagine
• 10:58
  we
• 10:58
  had
• 10:59
  just.
• 11:00
  We.
• 11:00
  We
• 11:00
  won
• 11:00
  the
• 11:01
  FA
• 11:01
  Youth
• 11:01
  cup
• 11:01
  twice.
• 11:03
  Everybody
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  looking
• 11:04
  at
• 11:04
  us.
• 11:05
  They
• 11:05
  were
• 11:05
  starting
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  call
• 11:06
  us
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  team
• 11:06
  of
• 11:07
  the
• 11:07
  80s
• 11:08
  and
• 11:09
  absolutely.
• 11:09
  Vince.
• 11:10
  Hello.
• 11:11
  Murphy
• 11:12
  Walshi.
• 11:12
  All
• 11:13
  of
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  players
• 11:13
  that
• 11:13
  we
• 11:14
  had,
• 11:14
  Nick
• 11:14
  or
• 11:14
  Billy
• 11:15
  Guild.
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  could.
• 11:16
  I
• 11:17
  still
• 11:17
  love
• 11:18
  them
• 11:18
  all.
• 11:18
  My
• 11:19
  paws
• 11:19
  are
• 11:19
  ears.
• 11:20
  And
• 11:20
  these
• 11:20
  are
• 11:20
  great
• 11:20
  people.
• 11:21
  Not
• 11:21
  just
• 11:22
  wonderful
• 11:22
  footballers.
• 11:23
  They.
• 11:24
  They
• 11:24
  were
• 11:24
  great
• 11:24
  lads.
• 11:25
  They
• 11:25
  look
• 11:25
  after
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  thick
• 11:27
  and
• 11:27
  in.
• 11:27
  Fantastic
• 11:28
  tell.
• 11:29
  Very
• 11:29
  humble.
• 11:30
  Very
• 11:30
  humble
• 11:30
  lads.
• 11:31
  Right.
• 11:31
  I
• 11:32
  mean,
• 11:32
  you
• 11:33
  know,.
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  tried
• 11:35
  to.
• 11:36
  Explain
• 11:36
  to
• 11:36
  people
• 11:37
  that,
• 11:37
  you
• 11:38
  know,
• 11:38
  people
• 11:38
  think
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  Premier
• 11:39
  League
• 11:39
  is
• 11:39
  the
• 11:39
  be
• 11:39
  all
• 11:40
  and
• 11:40
  end
• 11:40
  all.
• 11:40
  Back
• 11:40
  in
• 11:40
  those
• 11:41
  days,
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  First
• 11:41
  Division.
• 11:42
  Was
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  Premier
• 11:42
  League.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:43
  like,
• 11:43
  you
• 11:43
  know,
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  guys
• 11:44
  are
• 11:44
  very
• 11:44
  humble
• 11:45
  and
• 11:45
  very.
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  had
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  have
• 11:46
  a
• 11:47
  little
• 11:47
  check
• 11:47
  yesterday
• 11:48
  just
• 11:48
  to
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  ages
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  these
• 11:50
  people,
• 11:51
  you
• 11:51
  know.
• 11:54
  Burnley
• 11:55
  game,
• 11:55
  1979,
• 11:57
  when
• 11:57
  we
• 11:57
  went
• 11:57
  up.
• 11:58
  Yeah.
• 11:59
  My.
• 11:59
  My
• 12:00
  fond.
• 12:00
  You're
• 12:01
  involved
• 12:01
  in
• 12:01
  this,
• 12:02
  by
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  way.
• 12:02
  My
• 12:02
  fondest
• 12:03
  memory
• 12:03
  of
• 12:03
  that
• 12:04
  night
• 12:05
  was
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  game
• 12:06
  had
• 12:06
  just
• 12:06
  finished.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:06
  you're
• 12:07
  not
• 12:07
  going
• 12:07
  to
• 12:07
  remember
• 12:07
  this
• 12:07
  because
• 12:08
  you've
• 12:08
  done
• 12:08
  a
• 12:08
  million
• 12:08
  things,
• 12:09
  but
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  remember
• 12:10
  it.
• 12:10
  It's
• 12:10
  very
• 12:10
  Dear
• 12:11
  to
• 12:11
  me,
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  entrance
• 12:12
  at
• 12:12
  the
• 12:12
  club
• 12:12
  was
• 12:12
  underneath
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  sort
• 12:14
  of.
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  don't
• 12:15
  know,
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  had
• 12:15
  some.
• 12:15
  And.
• 12:15
  And
• 12:16
  then
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  had
• 12:16
  the
• 12:16
  doors
• 12:17
  which.
• 12:17
  When
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  first
• 12:18
  person
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  come
• 12:19
  out
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  those
• 12:20
  doors
• 12:21
  as
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  was
• 12:21
  coming
• 12:21
  in
• 12:22
  was
• 12:22
  you.
• 12:22
  And
• 12:22
  we
• 12:23
  had
• 12:23
  a
• 12:23
  great
• 12:23
  big
• 12:23
  hug
• 12:24
  and
• 12:24
  we
• 12:24
  just
• 12:24
  gone
• 12:25
  up,
• 12:25
  you
• 12:25
  know.
• 12:26
  And
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  know
• 12:27
  I
• 12:28
  could
• 12:28
  feel
• 12:28
  how
• 12:28
  much
• 12:29
  that
• 12:29
  meant
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  you
• 12:29
  because
• 12:29
  you
• 12:30
  knew,
• 12:30
  you
• 12:30
  knew
• 12:30
  you
• 12:30
  were
• 12:31
  a
• 12:31
  big
• 12:31
  part
• 12:31
  of
• 12:31
  that
• 12:32
  and
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  knew
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  was
• 12:32
  going
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  go
• 12:33
  on
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  be
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  part
• 12:33
  of
• 12:34
  that,
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  know.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:35
  that
• 12:35
  was
• 12:35
  a
• 12:35
  very,
• 12:36
  very
• 12:36
  special
• 12:36
  moment.
• 12:38
  Yeah,
• 12:38
  great
• 12:39
  times
• 12:39
  and
• 12:40
  those
• 12:40
  times
• 12:41
  at
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  club.
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  had
• 12:42
  this
• 12:42
  conversation
• 12:43
  with
• 12:43
  Nico
• 12:43
  and
• 12:44
  a
• 12:44
  couple
• 12:44
  of
• 12:44
  people
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  night
• 12:45
  at
• 12:46
  the
• 12:46
  club.
• 12:46
  Even
• 12:47
  though
• 12:47
  we
• 12:47
  won
• 12:47
  the
• 12:47
  FA
• 12:48
  cup
• 12:49
  that
• 12:49
  night
• 12:50
  had
• 12:50
  a
• 12:50
  very
• 12:50
  special
• 12:51
  feel
• 12:51
  to
• 12:51
  it.
• 12:51
  Just
• 12:52
  for
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  amount
• 12:52
  of
• 12:52
  people
• 12:53
  alone
• 12:53
  that
• 12:53
  was
• 12:53
  in
• 12:53
  there.
• 12:54
  51
• 12:55
  000,
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  know.
• 12:56
  Yeah.
• 12:56
  So.
• 12:57
  Yeah,
• 12:57
  very,
• 12:57
  very
• 12:58
  special
• 12:58
  time.
• 12:58
  It
• 12:58
  was
• 12:59
  incredible.
• 12:59
  And
• 12:59
  I
• 13:00
  think
• 13:00
  people
• 13:00
  don't
• 13:01
  recognize
• 13:01
  or
• 13:02
  they
• 13:02
  don't
• 13:03
  see
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  passion
• 13:04
  in
• 13:04
  Crystal
• 13:04
  Palace.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:06
  it
• 13:06
  started
• 13:06
  from
• 13:07
  Malcolm
• 13:07
  Allison,
• 13:09
  Terry
• 13:09
  Venables,
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  team
• 13:11
  going
• 13:11
  for.
• 13:11
  Look
• 13:12
  at
• 13:12
  all
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  stars
• 13:13
  that
• 13:13
  they
• 13:13
  brought
• 13:13
  through
• 13:14
  at
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  time,
• 13:15
  everywhere
• 13:16
  in
• 13:16
  the
• 13:16
  country.
• 13:16
  Didn't
• 13:17
  matter
• 13:17
  what
• 13:17
  club
• 13:17
  you
• 13:18
  supported.
• 13:18
  Liverpool,
• 13:19
  Leeds,
• 13:20
  Man
• 13:20
  United,
• 13:20
  whoever.
• 13:21
  Everybody
• 13:22
  was
• 13:22
  watching
• 13:22
  Crystal
• 13:23
  palace
• 13:23
  at
• 13:23
  the
• 13:24
  time
• 13:24
  because
• 13:24
  of
• 13:25
  these
• 13:25
  fantastic
• 13:26
  coaches.
• 13:26
  Malcolm
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  Terry
• 13:27
  were
• 13:27
  brilliant
• 13:29
  and
• 13:29
  they
• 13:29
  watching
• 13:30
  all
• 13:30
  these
• 13:30
  young
• 13:30
  kids
• 13:30
  that
• 13:31
  nobody
• 13:31
  dared
• 13:31
  of
• 13:31
  before
• 13:32
  coming
• 13:32
  to
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  forefront,
• 13:33
  it
• 13:34
  was
• 13:34
  amazing.
• 13:34
  It
• 13:35
  was.
• 13:35
  Palace
• 13:36
  fans
• 13:36
  were
• 13:37
  so
• 13:38
  lovely
• 13:39
  people,
• 13:40
  but
• 13:40
  they
• 13:40
  were
• 13:40
  so
• 13:41
  lucky
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  have
• 13:41
  these
• 13:42
  coaches
• 13:42
  at
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  top
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  would
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  turn
• 13:45
  in
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  club
• 13:45
  round.
• 13:46
  It
• 13:46
  was
• 13:46
  incredible.
• 13:47
  Yeah.
• 13:48
  And
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  felt
• 13:48
  that
• 13:48
  they
• 13:49
  brought
• 13:49
  a
• 13:49
  splash
• 13:50
  of
• 13:50
  glamour
• 13:50
  right
• 13:51
  to
• 13:51
  South
• 13:51
  London.
• 13:52
  You
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:52
  they
• 13:52
  made
• 13:52
  it.
• 13:53
  You
• 13:53
  know,
• 13:53
  he
• 13:53
  changed
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  name
• 13:54
  from
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  Glaziers
• 13:55
  to
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  Eagles.
• 13:56
  He
• 13:56
  brought
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  sash
• 13:56
  in
• 13:57
  and
• 13:57
  all
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  a
• 13:57
  sudden
• 13:58
  players
• 13:59
  that
• 13:59
  had
• 13:59
  a
• 14:00
  bit
• 14:00
  of
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  swagger
• 14:00
  about
• 14:01
  them
• 14:01
  and
• 14:01
  it
• 14:01
  was
• 14:01
  a
• 14:01
  little
• 14:02
  bit
• 14:02
  special,
• 14:02
  you
• 14:03
  know,
• 14:03
  and,
• 14:03
  and,
• 14:03
  and
• 14:04
  you
• 14:04
  know
• 14:04
  more
• 14:04
  than
• 14:04
  probably
• 14:05
  anybody
• 14:06
  how
• 14:08
  confident
• 14:08
  a
• 14:08
  man
• 14:09
  Terry
• 14:09
  Venables
• 14:10
  was
• 14:10
  and
• 14:10
  how
• 14:10
  he
• 14:10
  brought
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  confidence
• 14:11
  and
• 14:12
  he
• 14:12
  made
• 14:12
  you
• 14:13
  feel
• 14:13
  like
• 14:13
  you
• 14:13
  could
• 14:13
  really
• 14:14
  play
• 14:14
  you
• 14:15
  half
• 14:15
  of
• 14:15
  his
• 14:15
  thing,
• 14:16
  right?
• 14:16
  Correct.
• 14:16
  Terry,
• 14:17
  absolutely.
• 14:18
  When,
• 14:18
  when
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  recognize.
• 14:20
  And
• 14:20
  this
• 14:20
  was
• 14:20
  Terry
• 14:21
  on
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  training
• 14:22
  ground,
• 14:23
  we
• 14:23
  covered
• 14:24
  every
• 14:25
  simple
• 14:25
  move
• 14:26
  day
• 14:27
  in,
• 14:27
  day
• 14:27
  out.
• 14:27
  So
• 14:28
  when
• 14:28
  we
• 14:28
  hit
• 14:28
  that
• 14:28
  game
• 14:29
  at
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  weekend,
• 14:30
  everybody
• 14:31
  was
• 14:31
  on
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  same
• 14:32
  playing
• 14:32
  field
• 14:33
  doing
• 14:33
  the
• 14:34
  same
• 14:34
  things.
• 14:34
  Everybody
• 14:35
  knew
• 14:35
  the
• 14:35
  game
• 14:35
  plan.
• 14:36
  That's
• 14:37
  what
• 14:37
  Terry
• 14:37
  was
• 14:37
  all
• 14:37
  about.
• 14:38
  He
• 14:38
  didn't
• 14:38
  miss
• 14:39
  anything.
• 14:39
  Incredible.
• 14:41
  Wow.
• 14:41
  More
• 14:41
  than
• 14:41
  that,
• 14:42
  we
• 14:42
  would
• 14:43
  be
• 14:43
  organizing
• 14:44
  and
• 14:44
  this
• 14:44
  is
• 14:45
  what
• 14:45
  they
• 14:45
  do
• 14:45
  today.
• 14:45
  Gary.
• 14:46
  The.
• 14:48
  Everybody
• 14:48
  now
• 14:49
  is
• 14:49
  geared
• 14:49
  up
• 14:50
  to
• 14:50
  how
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  opposition
• 14:50
  are
• 14:51
  playing
• 14:51
  and
• 14:52
  it's
• 14:52
  passing
• 14:53
  you
• 14:53
  know,
• 14:53
  possession
• 14:54
  game.
• 14:55
  Terry,
• 14:55
  look
• 14:56
  at
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  opposition,
• 14:57
  pick
• 14:57
  out
• 14:57
  their
• 14:57
  best
• 14:58
  players.
• 14:58
  This
• 14:59
  is
• 14:59
  how
• 14:59
  we're
• 14:59
  going
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  control
• 15:00
  them.
• 15:00
  This
• 15:00
  is
• 15:01
  how
• 15:01
  we're
• 15:01
  going
• 15:01
  to
• 15:01
  defeat
• 15:02
  them.
• 15:02
  This
• 15:02
  is
• 15:02
  what.
• 15:03
  And
• 15:03
  we
• 15:03
  would
• 15:03
  just
• 15:03
  keep,
• 15:04
  keep
• 15:04
  to
• 15:04
  the
• 15:05
  game
• 15:05
  plan.
• 15:07
  Gary,
• 15:08
  you
• 15:08
  shouldn't
• 15:08
  be
• 15:08
  offside
• 15:09
  there.
• 15:09
  You
• 15:09
  look
• 15:10
  right
• 15:10
  along
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  line.
• 15:12
  Oh,
• 15:12
  he's
• 15:12
  telling
• 15:13
  porkies.
• 15:14
  But
• 15:14
  when
• 15:14
  Victor's
• 15:15
  coming,
• 15:15
  I
• 15:16
  could
• 15:16
  see
• 15:16
  him
• 15:16
  looking
• 15:16
  there
• 15:17
  and
• 15:18
  he
• 15:18
  looked
• 15:18
  there
• 15:19
  and
• 15:19
  what
• 15:19
  he
• 15:20
  done
• 15:20
  was
• 15:20
  he
• 15:20
  tried
• 15:20
  to
• 15:20
  cover
• 15:21
  that,
• 15:21
  he
• 15:21
  tried
• 15:21
  to
• 15:21
  cover
• 15:21
  that
• 15:22
  and
• 15:22
  try
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  cover
• 15:22
  that
• 15:22
  and
• 15:22
  he
• 15:23
  covered
• 15:23
  nothing.
• 15:23
  Now
• 15:23
  his
• 15:24
  position
• 15:24
  is
• 15:25
  perfect.
• 15:25
  He's
• 15:25
  got
• 15:26
  back
• 15:26
  where
• 15:26
  he's
• 15:26
  got
• 15:26
  to
• 15:27
  be,
• 15:27
  he's
• 15:27
  got
• 15:27
  everyone
• 15:27
  around
• 15:28
  him
• 15:28
  and
• 15:28
  all
• 15:28
  he's
• 15:28
  got
• 15:29
  to
• 15:29
  concentrate
• 15:29
  is
• 15:29
  he's
• 15:30
  in
• 15:30
  his
• 15:30
  zone
• 15:30
  is
• 15:30
  him.
• 15:31
  Stop.
• 15:31
  Rabbit
• 15:32
  and
• 15:32
  Graham,
• 15:32
  let's
• 15:32
  get
• 15:32
  on
• 15:32
  with
• 15:32
  it.
• 15:33
  That's
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  genius
• 15:34
  of
• 15:34
  Terry
• 15:34
  Venables.
• 15:35
  Brilliant.
• 15:35
  Yeah,
• 15:36
  yeah.
• 15:37
  So
• 15:38
  you
• 15:39
  moved
• 15:39
  on
• 15:39
  to
• 15:39
  qpr.
• 15:40
  Was
• 15:40
  Terry
• 15:40
  already
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  boss
• 15:41
  there
• 15:41
  when
• 15:42
  you
• 15:42
  went
• 15:42
  into
• 15:42
  qpr?
• 15:43
  Yeah,
• 15:43
  he
• 15:43
  went
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  qpr.
• 15:44
  Yeah.
• 15:45
  Palace
• 15:46
  were
• 15:46
  in
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  first
• 15:46
  division,
• 15:47
  you
• 15:47
  remember
• 15:49
  QPR
• 15:49
  were
• 15:50
  in
• 15:50
  Division
• 15:50
  Two.
• 15:51
  Terry
• 15:51
  went
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  qpr
• 15:52
  and
• 15:53
  then
• 15:53
  he
• 15:53
  signed
• 15:54
  on
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  same
• 15:54
  deer.
• 15:55
  He
• 15:55
  signed
• 15:56
  myself
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  Mike
• 15:57
  Flanagan
• 15:58
  from
• 15:58
  Palace.
• 16:00
  Budgie.
• 16:00
  John
• 16:01
  Berridge
• 16:01
  came
• 16:03
  after
• 16:03
  that.
• 16:04
  It
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  Tony
• 16:05
  Seeley.
• 16:05
  Right,
• 16:06
  Tony
• 16:07
  Seeley
• 16:07
  and
• 16:08
  Clive
• 16:08
  Allen.
• 16:09
  Wow.
• 16:09
  But
• 16:10
  Clyde
• 16:10
  went
• 16:10
  to
• 16:11
  Arsenal,
• 16:11
  didn't
• 16:12
  play,
• 16:12
  come
• 16:12
  to
• 16:12
  palace,
• 16:13
  then
• 16:13
  went
• 16:14
  back
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  qpr.
• 16:15
  So
• 16:15
  we
• 16:15
  had
• 16:15
  some
• 16:15
  wonderful
• 16:16
  players
• 16:16
  around
• 16:16
  us.
• 16:17
  Yeah.
• 16:17
  And.
• 16:18
  And
• 16:18
  those
• 16:19
  were
• 16:19
  very,
• 16:19
  very
• 16:20
  fun
• 16:20
  times
• 16:20
  for
• 16:20
  you.
• 16:20
  I
• 16:21
  know,
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  know
• 16:21
  you're
• 16:21
  very
• 16:21
  affectionate
• 16:23
  to
• 16:23
  the
• 16:23
  Rangers,
• 16:25
  obviously.
• 16:25
  Was.
• 16:27
  You
• 16:27
  got
• 16:27
  up,
• 16:27
  right?
• 16:27
  You
• 16:28
  got
• 16:28
  up
• 16:28
  with
• 16:28
  Rangers,
• 16:29
  you.
• 16:29
  You
• 16:29
  got
• 16:29
  them
• 16:29
  promoted.
• 16:30
  Well,
• 16:31
  that
• 16:31
  first
• 16:31
  year
• 16:32
  we
• 16:32
  got
• 16:32
  to
• 16:32
  the
• 16:32
  FIA
• 16:33
  Cup
• 16:34
  Final,
• 16:35
  played
• 16:35
  Spurs
• 16:36
  in
• 16:36
  the
• 16:36
  final.
• 16:37
  We
• 16:37
  were
• 16:38
  in
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  second
• 16:38
  division,
• 16:39
  they
• 16:39
  were
• 16:39
  in
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  first.
• 16:41
  The
• 16:41
  following
• 16:42
  season
• 16:42
  we
• 16:42
  got
• 16:43
  promoted
• 16:43
  from
• 16:43
  the
• 16:44
  second.
• 16:44
  We
• 16:44
  wanted
• 16:45
  by
• 16:45
  a
• 16:45
  country
• 16:45
  mile.
• 16:47
  And
• 16:47
  I'll
• 16:47
  never
• 16:48
  forget,
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  said
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  Terry,
• 16:50
  we
• 16:51
  finished
• 16:51
  off
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  season.
• 16:51
  This
• 16:52
  is
• 16:52
  after
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  FA
• 16:53
  Cup,
• 16:54
  Terry,
• 16:54
  play
• 16:54
  me
• 16:55
  center
• 16:55
  back
• 16:55
  next
• 16:56
  season
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  we'll
• 16:57
  win
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  league
• 16:57
  hands
• 16:58
  down.
• 16:58
  I
• 16:59
  said
• 16:59
  that,
• 16:59
  remember,
• 16:59
  while
• 17:00
  we
• 17:00
  were
• 17:00
  sitting
• 17:00
  having
• 17:00
  dinner.
• 17:01
  Wow.
• 17:02
  And
• 17:04
  never
• 17:04
  give
• 17:04
  it
• 17:04
  another
• 17:05
  thought.
• 17:05
  Started
• 17:06
  preseason
• 17:07
  for
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  next
• 17:08
  season
• 17:08
  coming
• 17:09
  up,
• 17:09
  Terry
• 17:10
  Fenic,
• 17:10
  center
• 17:11
  back,
• 17:11
  pushed
• 17:11
  me
• 17:12
  in
• 17:12
  there
• 17:12
  straight
• 17:12
  away
• 17:13
  and
• 17:13
  I
• 17:14
  looked
• 17:14
  at
• 17:14
  him
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  he
• 17:14
  went,
• 17:15
  yeah,
• 17:15
  you
• 17:15
  said
• 17:15
  it,
• 17:16
  not
• 17:17
  me,
• 17:17
  you
• 17:17
  said
• 17:17
  it
• 17:19
  center
• 17:19
  back.
• 17:20
  And
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  played
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  whole
• 17:21
  season
• 17:21
  center
• 17:22
  back.
• 17:23
  We
• 17:23
  had
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  best
• 17:24
  defensive
• 17:24
  record
• 17:25
  in
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  league,
• 17:26
  where
• 17:27
  we
• 17:27
  wouldn't
• 17:28
  get
• 17:28
  home
• 17:28
  and
• 17:28
  aware.
• 17:29
  And
• 17:29
  this
• 17:29
  was
• 17:30
  on
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  synthetic
• 17:30
  surface.
• 17:31
  Remember
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  plastic?
• 17:32
  Yeah,
• 17:32
  mate,
• 17:33
  yeah,
• 17:33
  yeah.
• 17:33
  You
• 17:34
  had
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  play
• 17:34
  on
• 17:34
  that.
• 17:35
  Yeah.
• 17:35
  But
• 17:36
  Terry
• 17:37
  put
• 17:37
  me
• 17:37
  there
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  We.
• 17:38
  We
• 17:39
  won
• 17:39
  by
• 17:39
  about
• 17:39
  14
• 17:40
  points,
• 17:41
  which
• 17:41
  was
• 17:41
  a
• 17:41
  lot
• 17:42
  of
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  time.
• 17:43
  Yeah.
• 17:45
  Unbelievable
• 17:46
  team.
• 17:47
  Very
• 17:47
  young.
• 17:48
  Some
• 17:48
  great
• 17:48
  young
• 17:49
  players
• 17:49
  coming
• 17:49
  through
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
  a
• 17:50
  little
• 17:50
  sprinkling
• 17:51
  of
• 17:51
  experience.
• 17:52
  Flanagan,
• 17:53
  Budgie,
• 17:54
  all
• 17:54
  of
• 17:54
  them.
• 17:55
  Wonderful
• 17:56
  times,
• 17:56
  man.
• 17:57
  Yeah.
• 17:58
  What's
• 17:58
  his
• 17:58
  name?
• 17:59
  You
• 17:59
  had
• 17:59
  Tony
• 17:59
  Curry
• 18:00
  in
• 18:00
  there.
• 18:00
  Tony
• 18:01
  Kerry.
• 18:01
  What
• 18:02
  a
• 18:02
  player
• 18:02
  he
• 18:02
  was.
• 18:04
  What
• 18:04
  a
• 18:04
  player.
• 18:05
  Jerry
• 18:05
  Francis
• 18:06
  came
• 18:06
  back.
• 18:07
  Oh,
• 18:07
  he
• 18:07
  did
• 18:08
  okay.
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  didn't
• 18:08
  remember
• 18:09
  that.
• 18:09
  Yeah,
• 18:09
  yeah.
• 18:09
  Came
• 18:09
  back
• 18:10
  from
• 18:10
  palace
• 18:10
  and
• 18:10
  came
• 18:10
  to
• 18:11
  QPR
• 18:11
  again.
• 18:12
  These
• 18:12
  were
• 18:12
  like
• 18:13
  mentors.
• 18:13
  So
• 18:14
  Terry
• 18:14
  would.
• 18:14
  I
• 18:15
  mean,
• 18:15
  they
• 18:15
  wouldn't
• 18:15
  play
• 18:15
  every
• 18:15
  game.
• 18:17
  Share
• 18:17
  them.
• 18:17
  Their
• 18:18
  experience
• 18:18
  and
• 18:19
  knowledge
• 18:19
  was
• 18:19
  just
• 18:19
  like,
• 18:20
  wow.
• 18:20
  Yeah,
• 18:21
  yeah.
• 18:23
  Who
• 18:23
  played
• 18:24
  alongside
• 18:24
  you
• 18:24
  there
• 18:24
  towards
• 18:25
  center
• 18:25
  off?
• 18:27
  Bob
• 18:28
  Basil.
• 18:28
  Yeah.
• 18:28
  Bobby
• 18:29
  as
• 18:29
  well.
• 18:29
  Yeah.
• 18:30
  And
• 18:30
  then
• 18:30
  Steve
• 18:30
  Wicks
• 18:31
  came
• 18:31
  in
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  then
• 18:32
  Alan
• 18:33
  McDonald
• 18:34
  came
• 18:34
  through
• 18:34
  the
• 18:35
  youth
• 18:35
  ranks
• 18:35
  at
• 18:35
  QPR
• 18:36
  and
• 18:36
  he
• 18:36
  came
• 18:37
  in.
• 18:37
  Okay.
• 18:38
  We
• 18:38
  played
• 18:38
  three
• 18:39
  at
• 18:39
  the
• 18:39
  back
• 18:39
  and.
• 18:40
  Oh,
• 18:40
  you
• 18:40
  did
• 18:41
  okay.
• 18:41
  Yeah.
• 18:42
  So
• 18:43
  I
• 18:43
  was
• 18:43
  the
• 18:43
  one
• 18:43
  in
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  middle
• 18:44
  and
• 18:44
  I
• 18:45
  was
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  Terry
• 18:45
  Venables
• 18:46
  on
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  field
• 18:47
  of
• 18:47
  player.
• 18:47
  Yeah.
• 18:48
  Whatever
• 18:48
  we've
• 18:49
  done
• 18:49
  on
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  training
• 18:49
  ground,
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  was
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  one
• 18:51
  shouting
• 18:51
  and
• 18:51
  screaming
• 18:52
  at
• 18:52
  all
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  lads
• 18:53
  getting
• 18:53
  into
• 18:53
  players
• 18:54
  positions.
• 18:55
  It
• 18:56
  was
• 18:56
  incredible.
• 18:57
  Fantastic.
• 18:57
  Great,
• 18:58
  great,
• 18:59
  great.
• 18:59
  And
• 19:00
  so
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  cup
• 19:01
  run,
• 19:03
  you
• 19:03
  obviously
• 19:04
  fancied
• 19:04
  yourselves
• 19:04
  through
• 19:05
  there.
• 19:05
  How
• 19:06
  did
• 19:06
  that
• 19:06
  progress?
• 19:07
  Did
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  confidence
• 19:08
  grow
• 19:08
  as
• 19:09
  each
• 19:09
  game
• 19:09
  came
• 19:09
  by
• 19:10
  or.
• 19:10
  Yes.
• 19:11
  You
• 19:11
  know.
• 19:11
  Did
• 19:12
  you
• 19:12
  get
• 19:12
  drawn
• 19:12
  at
• 19:12
  home
• 19:12
  a
• 19:12
  lot,
• 19:12
  Terry?
• 19:13
  Sorry
• 19:13
  to
• 19:13
  interrupt
• 19:14
  you
• 19:14
  there.
• 19:14
  Did
• 19:14
  you.
• 19:15
  Did
• 19:15
  you.
• 19:15
  Did
• 19:15
  you
• 19:15
  get
• 19:15
  drawn
• 19:16
  at
• 19:16
  home
• 19:16
  a
• 19:16
  lot
• 19:16
  in
• 19:16
  that
• 19:17
  run?
• 19:17
  Not
• 19:18
  really.
• 19:18
  We.
• 19:18
  We
• 19:19
  drew
• 19:19
  Middlesborough
• 19:20
  Wheel
• 19:22
  and
• 19:22
  we
• 19:22
  beat
• 19:23
  them
• 19:23
  up
• 19:23
  there.
• 19:25
  Three,
• 19:26
  two.
• 19:27
  Which
• 19:28
  wasn't
• 19:28
  easy.
• 19:28
  They
• 19:28
  were
• 19:29
  a
• 19:29
  good
• 19:29
  side
• 19:29
  at
• 19:29
  the
• 19:29
  time.
• 19:30
  And
• 19:30
  that
• 19:31
  was
• 19:31
  with.
• 19:31
  With
• 19:32
  Jack
• 19:32
  Tartan.
• 19:33
  Was
• 19:33
  the.
• 19:34
  All
• 19:34
  right.
• 19:34
  He
• 19:34
  was
• 19:34
  the
• 19:35
  bus.
• 19:35
  Yeah.
• 19:38
  Then
• 19:38
  we
• 19:38
  bit.
• 19:38
  We
• 19:39
  beat
• 19:39
  in
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  semi
• 19:39
  finals.
• 19:40
  West
• 19:40
  Brom.
• 19:41
  Huh.
• 19:42
  Big
• 19:42
  Cyril
• 19:42
  Regis,
• 19:43
  all
• 19:43
  of
• 19:43
  their
• 19:43
  top
• 19:44
  players.
• 19:44
  They
• 19:45
  had
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  great
• 19:45
  side
• 19:45
  at
• 19:46
  the
• 19:46
  time.
• 19:47
  Yeah,
• 19:47
  that
• 19:48
  was
• 19:48
  tough.
• 19:50
  And
• 19:51
  then
• 19:51
  of
• 19:51
  course,
• 19:51
  Burrs
• 19:52
  in
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  final
• 19:53
  was
• 19:54
  amazing
• 19:54
  because
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  first
• 19:55
  game
• 19:56
  wasn't
• 19:56
  the
• 19:57
  best
• 19:57
  football
• 19:57
  match
• 19:58
  because
• 19:58
  we
• 19:58
  were
• 19:59
  locking
• 20:00
  them
• 20:00
  down.
• 20:00
  We
• 20:01
  stopped.
• 20:01
  Right.
• 20:01
  Yeah,
• 20:02
  right.
• 20:02
  But
• 20:03
  as
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  game
• 20:03
  rolled
• 20:04
  on,
• 20:04
  we
• 20:04
  were
• 20:04
  getting
• 20:04
  more
• 20:05
  prominent
• 20:05
  and
• 20:05
  it
• 20:05
  was
• 20:06
  like,
• 20:06
  whoa.
• 20:06
  And
• 20:07
  they
• 20:07
  were
• 20:07
  complaining
• 20:08
  because
• 20:08
  they
• 20:08
  were
• 20:08
  in
• 20:08
  Europe.
• 20:09
  They'd
• 20:09
  had
• 20:09
  lots
• 20:09
  of
• 20:10
  games,
• 20:10
  looking
• 20:10
  tired,
• 20:11
  all
• 20:11
  of
• 20:12
  them
• 20:12
  things.
• 20:12
  You
• 20:12
  fancied
• 20:13
  it.
• 20:13
  Yeah,
• 20:13
  yeah,
• 20:14
  yeah.
• 20:15
  So
• 20:15
  you're
• 20:15
  in
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  Cup
• 20:15
  Final.
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  mean,
• 20:16
  just.
• 20:17
  Just
• 20:17
  that
• 20:17
  alone,
• 20:18
  Terry,
• 20:18
  like
• 20:19
  playing
• 20:19
  at
• 20:20
  Wembley.
• 20:20
  Was
• 20:21
  that
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  first
• 20:21
  time
• 20:21
  you'd
• 20:22
  played
• 20:22
  at
• 20:22
  Wembley?
• 20:23
  Yes,
• 20:23
  absolutely.
• 20:25
  Gary,
• 20:25
  you
• 20:26
  wouldn't
• 20:26
  believe
• 20:26
  it.
• 20:26
  This
• 20:27
  was
• 20:27
  us,
• 20:27
  a
• 20:27
  second
• 20:28
  division
• 20:28
  club
• 20:28
  at
• 20:28
  the
• 20:29
  time.
• 20:29
  Queen
• 20:29
  Spot
• 20:29
  Rangers
• 20:31
  playing
• 20:31
  against
• 20:31
  Tottenham
• 20:32
  Hotspur
• 20:32
  with
• 20:32
  Glenn
• 20:33
  Oddle,
• 20:33
  Aussie
• 20:34
  Ard,
• 20:35
  All
• 20:35
  Steve
• 20:36
  Permanent,
• 20:36
  all
• 20:36
  these
• 20:37
  Top
• 20:37
  stars.
• 20:38
  We
• 20:39
  are
• 20:39
  playing
• 20:39
  against
• 20:39
  them
• 20:39
  in
• 20:40
  an
• 20:40
  FA
• 20:40
  cup
• 20:40
  final.
• 20:41
  It
• 20:41
  was
• 20:42
  incredible,
• 20:42
  man.
• 20:43
  Oh,
• 20:44
  good
• 20:44
  tackle
• 20:44
  by
• 20:45
  Hodl
• 20:45
  on
• 20:45
  Waddock
• 20:46
  Roberts.
• 20:50
  Hoddle,
• 20:52
  Hoddle.
• 20:53
  It's
• 20:53
  there,
• 20:54
  it's
• 20:54
  there.
• 20:55
  He
• 20:56
  won
• 20:56
  it
• 20:56
  with
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  channel.
• 20:57
  God,
• 20:57
  he
• 20:57
  scored
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  goal.
• 20:59
  Glenn
• 20:59
  Hoddle,
• 21:00
  the
• 21:00
  pride
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  Tottenham.
• 21:02
  Terry
• 21:03
  Fenic
• 21:03
  from
• 21:03
  the
• 21:04
  Northeast
• 21:05
  saves
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  Cockney
• 21:06
  cup
• 21:06
  final
• 21:07
  for
• 21:07
  Queen's
• 21:07
  Park
• 21:08
  Rangers.
• 21:09
  Yeah,
• 21:09
  and
• 21:10
  what?
• 21:11
  The
• 21:11
  only
• 21:12
  outfield.
• 21:12
  Only
• 21:13
  outfield
• 21:13
  player
• 21:13
  only.
• 21:14
  Sorry,
• 21:14
  not
• 21:14
  outfield
• 21:15
  player,
• 21:15
  obviously.
• 21:16
  Right
• 21:16
  back
• 21:16
  to
• 21:17
  scoring
• 21:17
  an
• 21:17
  FA
• 21:17
  cup
• 21:18
  final
• 21:18
  in
• 21:18
  open
• 21:19
  play,
• 21:19
  Right?
• 21:19
  Correct.
• 21:20
  Yeah.
• 21:20
  First.
• 21:21
  First
• 21:22
  fullback
• 21:22
  to
• 21:22
  score
• 21:23
  in
• 21:23
  open
• 21:23
  player
• 21:24
  in
• 21:24
  an
• 21:24
  FA
• 21:25
  cup
• 21:25
  final.
• 21:26
  Stain
• 21:26
  Rod
• 21:27
  with
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  long
• 21:27
  throw
• 21:27
  for
• 21:27
  Queen.
• 21:28
  Spark
• 21:28
  Rangers.
• 21:31
  Roberts.
• 21:31
  It
• 21:31
  was
• 21:31
  Hazel's
• 21:32
  flick
• 21:32
  and
• 21:33
  Fennec
• 21:33
  was
• 21:33
  in
• 21:34
  there.
• 21:34
  And
• 21:34
  it's
• 21:34
  a
• 21:35
  goal,
• 21:36
  Terry.
• 21:37
  Fennec.
• 21:40
  The
• 21:40
  set
• 21:40
  piece
• 21:41
  ploy
• 21:41
  works
• 21:41
  again.
• 21:42
  Fennec
• 21:43
  is
• 21:43
  the
• 21:43
  scorer.
• 21:44
  Was
• 21:44
  it,
• 21:45
  was
• 21:45
  that.
• 21:45
  Was
• 21:45
  that
• 21:45
  the
• 21:46
  game,
• 21:46
  Terry?
• 21:46
  Where
• 21:46
  early
• 21:47
  on
• 21:48
  you've
• 21:48
  gone
• 21:48
  in
• 21:48
  for
• 21:49
  that
• 21:49
  tackle
• 21:49
  with.
• 21:50
  With
• 21:50
  Golf
• 21:51
  Crooks?
• 21:51
  Yeah.
• 21:53
  Yes.
• 21:53
  Well,
• 21:53
  you
• 21:54
  know.
• 21:54
  Yeah,
• 21:54
  because
• 21:55
  they.
• 21:56
  They
• 21:56
  were
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  Division
• 21:57
  1
• 21:57
  team
• 21:57
  and
• 21:57
  we're
• 21:58
  Division
• 21:58
  2.
• 21:58
  We
• 21:58
  had
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  get.
• 21:59
  Get
• 22:00
  stuck
• 22:00
  into
• 22:00
  them
• 22:00
  for
• 22:01
  sure,
• 22:01
  Gary,
• 22:01
  and
• 22:01
  you
• 22:01
  know
• 22:02
  that
• 22:02
  more
• 22:02
  than
• 22:02
  anybody.
• 22:03
  Yeah,
• 22:03
  yeah,
• 22:04
  yeah,
• 22:04
  yeah,
• 22:04
  yeah.
• 22:04
  Over
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  years,
• 22:05
  mate,
• 22:05
  you,
• 22:06
  Nick
• 22:06
  or
• 22:06
  all
• 22:07
  the
• 22:07
  crowd,
• 22:07
  we
• 22:08
  used
• 22:08
  to.
• 22:09
  We
• 22:09
  used
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  have
• 22:09
  a
• 22:10
  little
• 22:10
  battle,
• 22:11
  that's
• 22:11
  for
• 22:11
  sure.
• 22:12
  Yeah,
• 22:12
  no,
• 22:12
  but
• 22:13
  that,
• 22:13
  you
• 22:13
  know,
• 22:13
  that,
• 22:14
  that.
• 22:14
  Listen,
• 22:15
  mate,
• 22:15
  that
• 22:15
  was
• 22:15
  part
• 22:15
  of
• 22:16
  your
• 22:16
  game
• 22:16
  and,
• 22:16
  but
• 22:17
  listen,
• 22:17
  I
• 22:18
  think
• 22:18
  both
• 22:18
  you
• 22:19
  and
• 22:19
  Nico,
• 22:21
  you
• 22:22
  know,
• 22:22
  yeah,
• 22:22
  you
• 22:22
  made
• 22:23
  yourself
• 22:23
  known,
• 22:23
  but
• 22:24
  it
• 22:24
  was
• 22:24
  in
• 22:24
  a
• 22:24
  fair
• 22:24
  way,
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  know.
• 22:26
  And
• 22:27
  listen,
• 22:27
  that.
• 22:28
  That
• 22:28
  tackle
• 22:29
  on
• 22:29
  G.
• 22:29
  Crooks
• 22:30
  that
• 22:30
  day
• 22:30
  was
• 22:30
  debatable.
• 22:31
  But,
• 22:33
  but
• 22:33
  he
• 22:33
  certainly
• 22:34
  knew.
• 22:35
  Yeah,
• 22:35
  he
• 22:35
  certainly
• 22:35
  knew
• 22:36
  you.
• 22:36
  Yeah,
• 22:36
  he
• 22:36
  didn't
• 22:37
  fancy
• 22:37
  it
• 22:37
  after
• 22:37
  that.
• 22:38
  I
• 22:38
  don't
• 22:38
  think
• 22:40
  everybody
• 22:40
  tells
• 22:42
  people
• 22:43
  on
• 22:43
  TV
• 22:43
  and
• 22:44
  wherever,
• 22:45
  Terry,
• 22:45
  that
• 22:46
  scoring
• 22:47
  a
• 22:47
  goal,
• 22:47
  there's
• 22:48
  no
• 22:48
  feeling
• 22:49
  like
• 22:49
  scoring
• 22:49
  a
• 22:50
  goal.
• 22:51
  Well,
• 22:51
  tell
• 22:52
  me,
• 22:52
  what
• 22:52
  is
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  feeling
• 22:53
  of
• 22:53
  scoring
• 22:54
  a
• 22:54
  goal
• 22:54
  in
• 22:55
  a
• 22:55
  Wembley
• 22:55
  cup
• 22:55
  final?
• 22:56
  An
• 22:56
  FA
• 22:56
  cup
• 22:57
  final?
• 22:57
  How
• 22:57
  did
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  feel?
• 22:58
  Well,
• 22:58
  it
• 22:59
  was
• 22:59
  incredible.
• 23:00
  They'd
• 23:00
  already
• 23:01
  scored.
• 23:01
  This
• 23:01
  was
• 23:01
  us
• 23:02
  drawing
• 23:02
  level.
• 23:04
  And
• 23:04
  I
• 23:05
  automatically,
• 23:05
  without
• 23:06
  even
• 23:06
  thinking
• 23:07
  about
• 23:07
  this,
• 23:07
  Gary,
• 23:07
  I
• 23:08
  spun
• 23:08
  to
• 23:08
  my
• 23:09
  right
• 23:09
  hand
• 23:09
  side
• 23:09
  because
• 23:10
  I
• 23:10
  knew
• 23:11
  all
• 23:11
  my
• 23:11
  family,
• 23:12
  friends,
• 23:12
  QPR
• 23:13
  fans,
• 23:14
  they
• 23:14
  were
• 23:14
  all
• 23:15
  up
• 23:15
  there
• 23:15
  in
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  stand
• 23:16
  and
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  went
• 23:16
  running
• 23:17
  towards
• 23:17
  them,
• 23:18
  my
• 23:18
  arms
• 23:19
  up
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  whole
• 23:21
  team
• 23:22
  was
• 23:22
  right
• 23:22
  behind
• 23:23
  me.
• 23:23
  It
• 23:23
  was
• 23:24
  incredible.
• 23:25
  My
• 23:25
  paws
• 23:25
  are
• 23:25
  raising
• 23:26
  now.
• 23:26
  This
• 23:27
  was
• 23:27
  one
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  the
• 23:27
  best
• 23:27
  things
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  my
• 23:28
  life,
• 23:28
  Matt.
• 23:29
  When
• 23:29
  you
• 23:29
  think
• 23:30
  again,
• 23:31
  FA
• 23:31
  Cup
• 23:31
  Final
• 23:32
  and
• 23:33
  the
• 23:34
  roar
• 23:34
  of
• 23:34
  the
• 23:34
  crowd.
• 23:35
  QPR
• 23:35
  fans,
• 23:36
  I
• 23:36
  couldn't
• 23:36
  believe
• 23:37
  it.
• 23:37
  Whoa.
• 23:37
  Yeah.
• 23:38
  What's
• 23:38
  going
• 23:39
  on
• 23:39
  here?
• 23:39
  Yeah,
• 23:40
  but
• 23:40
  that
• 23:41
  was
• 23:42
  Gary.
• 23:43
  I've
• 23:43
  not
• 23:44
  told
• 23:44
  anybody
• 23:44
  this,
• 23:45
  but
• 23:45
  after,
• 23:46
  after
• 23:46
  the
• 23:47
  game,
• 23:48
  that,
• 23:48
  that
• 23:48
  game,
• 23:49
  I
• 23:50
  went
• 23:50
  back
• 23:51
  to
• 23:51
  the
• 23:51
  hotel.
• 23:51
  Family,
• 23:52
  friends,
• 23:52
  all
• 23:53
  that.
• 23:53
  And
• 23:53
  not
• 23:54
  until
• 23:54
  I
• 23:54
  walked
• 23:55
  into
• 23:55
  the
• 23:55
  lift
• 23:56
  with
• 23:56
  my
• 23:56
  mum,
• 23:57
  my
• 23:57
  dad,
• 23:57
  my
• 23:58
  sister.
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  broke
• 23:59
  down
• 24:00
  into
• 24:00
  tears
• 24:01
  in
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  lift.
• 24:01
  That
• 24:02
  was
• 24:02
  me
• 24:02
  getting
• 24:02
  that
• 24:03
  emotion
• 24:03
  out.
• 24:04
  Yeah.
• 24:05
  Kept
• 24:05
  it
• 24:05
  tight
• 24:05
  all
• 24:05
  day.
• 24:06
  Kept
• 24:06
  tough
• 24:07
  all
• 24:07
  deer.
• 24:07
  Yeah,
• 24:08
  that
• 24:09
  lift,
• 24:09
  as
• 24:09
  soon
• 24:09
  as
• 24:10
  them
• 24:10
  lift
• 24:10
  those
• 24:10
  claws,
• 24:11
  boom,
• 24:11
  I
• 24:12
  just.
• 24:12
  Out.
• 24:13
  Yeah,
• 24:14
  yeah,
• 24:14
  yeah,
• 24:15
  yeah.
• 24:16
  I,
• 24:16
  I,
• 24:17
  I
• 24:17
  almost
• 24:18
  knew
• 24:18
  what
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  was
• 24:18
  going
• 24:19
  to
• 24:19
  say
• 24:19
  there
• 24:19
  because,
• 24:20
  I
• 24:21
  don't
• 24:21
  know,
• 24:21
  there's
• 24:21
  been
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  couple
• 24:22
  of
• 24:22
  stressful
• 24:23
  things
• 24:23
  in
• 24:24
  my
• 24:24
  life
• 24:24
  and
• 24:24
  that's
• 24:24
  happened
• 24:25
  the
• 24:25
  same
• 24:25
  way
• 24:25
  and
• 24:25
  I,
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  could
• 24:26
  feel
• 24:27
  that's
• 24:27
  what
• 24:27
  he
• 24:27
  was
• 24:27
  going
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  say.
• 24:28
  And
• 24:28
  of
• 24:28
  course,
• 24:29
  you're
• 24:29
  still
• 24:30
  a
• 24:30
  young
• 24:30
  lad
• 24:30
  there.
• 24:30
  You're
• 24:31
  like
• 24:31
  20,
• 24:31
  21
• 24:32
  telling
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  22
• 24:33
  mil.
• 24:33
  22.
• 24:34
  You
• 24:35
  was
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  captain.
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  wasn't
• 24:37
  there
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  following
• 24:38
  season.
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  was
• 24:39
  captain.
• 24:39
  Yeah,
• 24:40
  yeah.
• 24:40
  You
• 24:40
  know,
• 24:40
  so,
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  knowing,
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  know,
• 24:43
  forget
• 24:43
  being
• 24:43
  a
• 24:43
  captain,
• 24:44
  you're
• 24:44
  just
• 24:44
  a
• 24:44
  natural
• 24:45
  leader
• 24:45
  on
• 24:45
  the
• 24:46
  pitch.
• 24:46
  So
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  know
• 24:46
  you
• 24:46
  was
• 24:47
  carrying
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  lot
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  weight
• 24:48
  on
• 24:48
  your
• 24:48
  shoulders
• 24:48
  that
• 24:49
  day
• 24:49
  and
• 24:49
  that,
• 24:49
  that's,
• 24:50
  you
• 24:50
  know,
• 24:50
  that's
• 24:50
  how
• 24:50
  it
• 24:51
  comes
• 24:51
  out,
• 24:51
  you
• 24:51
  know,
• 24:52
  to
• 24:52
  anybody,
• 24:53
  anybody
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  says
• 24:54
  it
• 24:54
  doesn't,
• 24:55
  they're
• 24:55
  lying.
• 24:56
  That's
• 24:56
  how
• 24:56
  it
• 24:56
  comes
• 24:57
  out,
• 24:57
  you
• 24:57
  know.
• 25:00
  So
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  next
• 25:00
  season,
• 25:01
  did
• 25:01
  you,
• 25:02
  did
• 25:02
  you
• 25:03
  stay
• 25:03
  with
• 25:03
  QPR
• 25:03
  the
• 25:04
  next
• 25:04
  season
• 25:04
  after
• 25:04
  that,
• 25:05
  Terry?
• 25:05
  After
• 25:06
  the.
• 25:06
  Absolutely.
• 25:07
  I
• 25:07
  mean,
• 25:08
  you
• 25:08
  know,
• 25:08
  I
• 25:08
  think
• 25:08
  I
• 25:08
  told
• 25:09
  you
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  story,
• 25:09
  Gary.
• 25:10
  I'd
• 25:11
  sat
• 25:11
  down
• 25:11
  with
• 25:12
  Terry
• 25:12
  Venables
• 25:14
  etc,
• 25:14
  and
• 25:14
  Terry
• 25:15
  play
• 25:15
  me
• 25:15
  center
• 25:16
  back
• 25:16
  next
• 25:16
  season.
• 25:17
  That's
• 25:17
  right.
• 25:17
  You
• 25:17
  did.
• 25:18
  Yeah.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:18
  we
• 25:19
  win
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  league.
• 25:20
  And
• 25:20
  we
• 25:20
  didn't
• 25:21
  just
• 25:21
  win
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  league.
• 25:21
  We
• 25:22
  wanted
• 25:22
  by
• 25:22
  a
• 25:22
  country
• 25:23
  mile.
• 25:23
  We
• 25:24
  woman
• 25:24
  aware
• 25:26
  we
• 25:26
  would
• 25:26
  like
• 25:26
  granite.
• 25:27
  We
• 25:27
  give
• 25:27
  nothing
• 25:27
  aware
• 25:28
  and
• 25:29
  we
• 25:29
  won
• 25:29
  everything.
• 25:29
  It
• 25:30
  was
• 25:30
  fantastic.
• 25:31
  Great,
• 25:32
  great.
• 25:32
  Again
• 25:34
  come
• 25:34
  from
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  northeast
• 25:35
  of
• 25:35
  England.
• 25:35
  All
• 25:36
  my
• 25:36
  family
• 25:36
  used
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  come
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  roller
• 25:37
  games
• 25:38
  in
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  north,
• 25:39
  so
• 25:39
  I
• 25:39
  always
• 25:39
  had
• 25:39
  good
• 25:40
  support
• 25:40
  up
• 25:40
  in
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  north.
• 25:42
  But
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  fans
• 25:43
  were
• 25:43
  brilliant
• 25:44
  that
• 25:44
  season.
• 25:44
  They
• 25:45
  followed
• 25:45
  us
• 25:45
  everywhere
• 25:46
  in
• 25:46
  huge
• 25:47
  numbers.
• 25:48
  We
• 25:49
  deserved
• 25:49
  it.
• 25:49
  And
• 25:50
  when
• 25:50
  you
• 25:50
  look.
• 25:50
  Oh
• 25:50
  my
• 25:51
  God.
• 25:52
  Simon
• 25:52
  Steinrod,
• 25:53
  Clive
• 25:53
  Allen
• 25:53
  up
• 25:54
  front,
• 25:54
  two
• 25:54
  unbelievable
• 25:55
  strikers.
• 25:56
  Brilliant.
• 25:57
  Yes.
• 25:58
  Clive's
• 25:58
  possibly
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  best
• 25:59
  finisher
• 26:00
  I've
• 26:00
  ever
• 26:01
  seen
• 26:01
  in
• 26:01
  my
• 26:01
  life.
• 26:02
  Yes,
• 26:04
  yes.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:05
  so
• 26:05
  many
• 26:05
  other
• 26:06
  players
• 26:06
  that
• 26:06
  came
• 26:07
  through
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  Gary
• 26:08
  Waddocks,
• 26:10
  Steve
• 26:10
  Wicks,
• 26:11
  you
• 26:11
  know,
• 26:12
  there
• 26:12
  was
• 26:12
  so
• 26:13
  many
• 26:13
  players
• 26:14
  in
• 26:14
  that
• 26:14
  squad
• 26:14
  at
• 26:15
  the
• 26:15
  time.
• 26:16
  We
• 26:16
  were
• 26:16
  a
• 26:16
  good
• 26:16
  side.
• 26:17
  And
• 26:18
  after
• 26:19
  getting
• 26:19
  promotion,
• 26:20
  Gary,
• 26:20
  we,
• 26:20
  we
• 26:21
  then
• 26:21
  became
• 26:22
  top
• 26:22
  London
• 26:23
  team
• 26:24
  three
• 26:24
  out
• 26:25
  of
• 26:25
  five
• 26:25
  years.
• 26:26
  Yeah,
• 26:26
  yeah,
• 26:27
  you
• 26:27
  did.
• 26:27
  Yeah,
• 26:28
  I
• 26:28
  remember
• 26:28
  Tottenham.
• 26:29
  Yes.
• 26:31
  Yeah,
• 26:31
  yeah,
• 26:31
  we've
• 26:32
  done
• 26:32
  some
• 26:32
  good
• 26:32
  stuff.
• 26:34
  I
• 26:35
  was
• 26:35
  laughing
• 26:35
  here
• 26:35
  when
• 26:36
  you
• 26:36
  mentioned
• 26:36
  Clive
• 26:36
  Allen
• 26:37
  because
• 26:37
  I
• 26:38
  spoke
• 26:38
  to
• 26:38
  Spider
• 26:38
  the
• 26:39
  other
• 26:39
  day.
• 26:39
  And
• 26:39
  of
• 26:39
  course
• 26:39
  he
• 26:40
  played
• 26:40
  with
• 26:40
  him
• 26:40
  at
• 26:40
  Rangers
• 26:41
  for
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  little
• 26:41
  bit.
• 26:43
  He
• 26:43
  was
• 26:43
  telling
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  story
• 26:44
  how
• 26:44
  he
• 26:44
  was
• 26:44
  slagging
• 26:45
  off
• 26:46
  Clive
• 26:46
  Allen
• 26:47
  and
• 26:47
  it's
• 26:47
  like,
• 26:48
  it's
• 26:48
  Clive
• 26:49
  Allen,
• 26:49
  he's
• 26:49
  one
• 26:49
  of
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  greatest
• 26:50
  finishers
• 26:51
  ever.
• 26:51
  Right,
• 26:53
  Great,
• 26:53
  great
• 26:54
  wherever
• 26:54
  he
• 26:55
  went.
• 26:55
  Prolific,
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  know,
• 26:56
  a
• 26:57
  great
• 26:57
  forward.
• 27:00
  So
• 27:00
  then
• 27:00
  you
• 27:01
  get
• 27:01
  up
• 27:01
  and
• 27:01
  then
• 27:03
  as
• 27:03
  Terry
• 27:04
  Venables
• 27:04
  moved
• 27:05
  on
• 27:05
  then,
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  you
• 27:06
  moved
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  Tottenham's
• 27:06
  coming
• 27:07
  up.
• 27:07
  Right,
• 27:08
  well,
• 27:08
  we.
• 27:08
  We
• 27:09
  are.
• 27:09
  I
• 27:09
  had
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  few
• 27:09
  seasons
• 27:10
  in
• 27:10
  the.
• 27:10
  In
• 27:10
  the.
• 27:11
  What
• 27:11
  is
• 27:11
  the
• 27:11
  Premier
• 27:12
  League
• 27:12
  now.
• 27:14
  In
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  first
• 27:14
  year.
• 27:15
  And
• 27:15
  I
• 27:15
  had
• 27:16
  an
• 27:16
  unbelievable
• 27:18
  Tuesday
• 27:20
  morning
• 27:20
  training
• 27:21
  session
• 27:22
  at.
• 27:23
  In
• 27:23
  December
• 27:26
  87.
• 27:27
  So
• 27:28
  Jim
• 27:28
  Smith
• 27:28
  was
• 27:28
  the
• 27:29
  manager
• 27:29
  at
• 27:29
  the
• 27:29
  time.
• 27:31
  His
• 27:32
  office,
• 27:32
  before
• 27:32
  training
• 27:33
  started.
• 27:34
  Fair.
• 27:35
  I
• 27:35
  need
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  have
• 27:35
  a
• 27:35
  word.
• 27:35
  Yeah,
• 27:36
  yeah,
• 27:37
  went
• 27:37
  in
• 27:37
  there.
• 27:38
  I've
• 27:38
  had
• 27:39
  a
• 27:39
  phone
• 27:39
  call
• 27:39
  this
• 27:39
  morning
• 27:40
  from
• 27:40
  George
• 27:40
  Graham,
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  Arsenal
• 27:41
  manager,
• 27:43
  and
• 27:43
  he
• 27:43
  wants
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  meet
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  at
• 27:45
  11:00
• 27:46
  this
• 27:46
  morning.
• 27:48
  And
• 27:48
  this
• 27:48
  was
• 27:48
  at
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  Target
• 27:49
  roundabout.
• 27:50
  There
• 27:50
  was
• 27:50
  a
• 27:51
  pub
• 27:51
  on
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  Target
• 27:52
  roundabout,
• 27:53
  right
• 27:53
  around
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  corner
• 27:54
  from
• 27:54
  our
• 27:54
  training
• 27:55
  ground.
• 27:56
  We
• 27:56
  had
• 27:56
  to
• 27:56
  meet
• 27:57
  them
• 27:57
  there
• 27:57
  at
• 27:57
  11
• 27:57
  o'.
• 27:58
  Clock.
• 27:59
  Now
• 27:59
  what
• 27:59
  George
• 28:00
  didn't
• 28:00
  realize
• 28:01
  that
• 28:01
  pub
• 28:02
  was
• 28:02
  a
• 28:02
  QPR
• 28:03
  pub.
• 28:05
  Now,
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  walked
• 28:06
  in
• 28:06
  there
• 28:06
  at
• 28:07
  11am
• 28:07
  on
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  dot.
• 28:09
  George
• 28:10
  was
• 28:10
  sat
• 28:10
  there
• 28:11
  and
• 28:12
  the
• 28:13
  two
• 28:13
  or
• 28:13
  three
• 28:13
  bar
• 28:14
  people
• 28:14
  that
• 28:14
  were
• 28:14
  in
• 28:15
  there
• 28:15
  working
• 28:15
  early.
• 28:16
  Hang
• 28:16
  on
• 28:17
  a
• 28:17
  second,
• 28:17
  that's
• 28:18
  going
• 28:18
  on
• 28:18
  here.
• 28:19
  The
• 28:19
  Arsenal
• 28:20
  manager
• 28:20
  up
• 28:21
  within
• 28:21
  20
• 28:22
  minutes,
• 28:22
  half
• 28:22
  hour,
• 28:23
  there
• 28:23
  was
• 28:23
  150
• 28:24
  people
• 28:25
  in
• 28:25
  and
• 28:25
  around
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  pub.
• 28:26
  QPR
• 28:27
  fans,
• 28:27
  what's
• 28:28
  going
• 28:28
  on?
• 28:29
  Yeah,
• 28:29
  and
• 28:30
  it
• 28:30
  was
• 28:30
  just
• 28:30
  incredible.
• 28:32
  While
• 28:32
  I
• 28:32
  was
• 28:32
  there
• 28:33
  with
• 28:33
  George
• 28:34
  discussing
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  potential
• 28:36
  contract
• 28:36
  with
• 28:36
  Arsenal,
• 28:38
  my
• 28:38
  phone
• 28:39
  rang.
• 28:39
  And
• 28:40
  Gary,
• 28:40
  you
• 28:41
  love
• 28:41
  this.
• 28:41
  Remember
• 28:42
  the
• 28:42
  old
• 28:43
  thorns
• 28:44
  that
• 28:44
  were
• 28:44
  like
• 28:44
  a
• 28:45
  brick
• 28:45
  in
• 28:45
  your
• 28:45
  hand
• 28:45
  and
• 28:46
  the
• 28:46
  big.
• 28:49
  Yeah,
• 28:49
  you
• 28:49
  had
• 28:49
  to
• 28:50
  be
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  bodybuilder,
• 28:50
  carry
• 28:51
  it
• 28:51
  around.
• 28:51
  Yeah,
• 28:52
  I'll
• 28:53
  pick
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  phone
• 28:53
  up.
• 28:53
  And
• 28:54
  it
• 28:54
  was
• 28:54
  Terry
• 28:54
  Venables.
• 28:56
  Terry,
• 28:57
  just
• 28:57
  come
• 28:57
  back
• 28:58
  from
• 28:58
  Barcelona,
• 28:59
  is
• 28:59
  now
• 28:59
  at
• 28:59
  Tottenham.
• 29:00
  So
• 29:01
  I'm
• 29:01
  sat
• 29:01
  there
• 29:01
  with
• 29:01
  the
• 29:01
  Arsenal
• 29:02
  manager
• 29:03
  and
• 29:03
  George.
• 29:04
  Is
• 29:04
  that
• 29:05
  Terry?
• 29:05
  And
• 29:05
  I
• 29:06
  nodded.
• 29:06
  Me
• 29:06
  ed.
• 29:06
  Yeah,
• 29:07
  because
• 29:07
  I
• 29:07
  knew
• 29:07
  them
• 29:07
  both,
• 29:08
  they
• 29:08
  were
• 29:08
  friends.
• 29:09
  Yeah,
• 29:09
  yeah,
• 29:09
  yeah.
• 29:10
  I
• 29:10
  couldn't
• 29:10
  tell
• 29:10
  any
• 29:11
  lies
• 29:13
  and
• 29:13
  I
• 29:14
  wouldn't.
• 29:14
  But.
• 29:14
  But
• 29:16
  what
• 29:16
  a
• 29:16
  situation
• 29:17
  that
• 29:17
  is.
• 29:17
  In
• 29:18
  the
• 29:18
  same
• 29:18
  day
• 29:19
  I
• 29:20
  saw
• 29:20
  Arsenal
• 29:21
  and
• 29:21
  Tottenham
• 29:21
  managers
• 29:22
  and
• 29:22
  of
• 29:23
  course
• 29:23
  Terry
• 29:23
  and
• 29:23
  I
• 29:24
  were
• 29:24
  big
• 29:24
  friends
• 29:24
  as
• 29:25
  well
• 29:25
  as
• 29:26
  he
• 29:26
  was
• 29:26
  my
• 29:26
  mentor
• 29:27
  for
• 29:28
  most
• 29:28
  of
• 29:28
  my
• 29:28
  career.
• 29:30
  Everything
• 29:31
  he'd
• 29:31
  done
• 29:31
  was
• 29:31
  brilliant.
• 29:34
  So
• 29:35
  it
• 29:35
  just.
• 29:35
  I
• 29:36
  had
• 29:36
  to
• 29:36
  go
• 29:36
  with
• 29:36
  Terry
• 29:37
  and.
• 29:38
  As
• 29:39
  soon
• 29:39
  as
• 29:39
  he
• 29:39
  said
• 29:39
  it
• 29:39
  was.
• 29:39
  Is
• 29:40
  that
• 29:40
  Terry?
• 29:40
  He
• 29:40
  knew
• 29:41
  he'd
• 29:41
  lost
• 29:41
  you.
• 29:42
  Yeah,
• 29:43
  yeah.
• 29:44
  But
• 29:44
  George
• 29:45
  is
• 29:45
  a
• 29:45
  great
• 29:45
  lad
• 29:46
  as
• 29:46
  well
• 29:46
  as
• 29:46
  a
• 29:47
  player
• 29:47
  at
• 29:48
  Crystal
• 29:48
  palace,
• 29:49
  as
• 29:49
  a
• 29:49
  coach.
• 29:49
  When
• 29:49
  he
• 29:50
  came
• 29:50
  To
• 29:50
  QPR
• 29:51
  and
• 29:51
  then
• 29:52
  on
• 29:52
  to
• 29:52
  management,
• 29:53
  Millwall,
• 29:53
  Arsenal.
• 29:54
  He'd
• 29:55
  done
• 29:55
  a
• 29:55
  great
• 29:55
  job
• 29:55
  as
• 29:56
  well.
• 29:56
  These,
• 29:57
  Gary,
• 29:57
  these
• 29:58
  were
• 29:58
  great
• 29:58
  people
• 29:59
  in
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  sport
• 30:00
  of
• 30:00
  football.
• 30:01
  Terry,
• 30:02
  George,
• 30:02
  Graham.
• 30:03
  These
• 30:03
  people
• 30:03
  are
• 30:03
  out
• 30:04
  networking
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  was
• 30:06
  friendly
• 30:06
  with
• 30:07
  people.
• 30:08
  Never
• 30:08
  get
• 30:08
  that
• 30:08
  opportunity
• 30:09
  ever
• 30:09
  again.
• 30:10
  Malcolm
• 30:10
  Allison
• 30:11
  who
• 30:11
  started
• 30:11
  it
• 30:11
  off,
• 30:12
  he
• 30:12
  wasn't
• 30:13
  frightened
• 30:13
  about.
• 30:13
  He
• 30:14
  used
• 30:14
  to
• 30:14
  bring
• 30:14
  good
• 30:14
  people
• 30:15
  in.
• 30:15
  He
• 30:15
  used
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  bring
• 30:16
  people
• 30:16
  together
• 30:18
  and
• 30:18
  I
• 30:18
  love
• 30:19
  that
• 30:19
  with
• 30:19
  these
• 30:19
  people.
• 30:19
  They
• 30:20
  were
• 30:20
  top
• 30:20
  class.
• 30:21
  Learned
• 30:22
  so
• 30:22
  much
• 30:22
  from
• 30:23
  them
• 30:23
  and
• 30:24
  not
• 30:24
  just
• 30:24
  in
• 30:24
  terms
• 30:24
  of
• 30:25
  football,
• 30:25
  how
• 30:26
  to
• 30:26
  behave
• 30:26
  as
• 30:26
  a
• 30:27
  person.
• 30:27
  Yes.
• 30:28
  Look
• 30:28
  after
• 30:28
  life.
• 30:30
  Brilliant.
• 30:31
  Yeah,
• 30:31
  just,
• 30:32
  just,
• 30:32
  just
• 30:32
  brilliant
• 30:33
  and
• 30:33
  brilliant
• 30:34
  characters.
• 30:34
  I,
• 30:35
  I've
• 30:35
  watched
• 30:36
  that
• 30:36
  thing
• 30:36
  on
• 30:36
  YouTube
• 30:37
  a
• 30:37
  couple
• 30:37
  of
• 30:37
  times
• 30:38
  with
• 30:38
  Malcolm
• 30:38
  Allison
• 30:39
  in
• 30:39
  the
• 30:39
  World
• 30:40
  cup
• 30:40
  with
• 30:41
  Alan
• 30:42
  Mallory.
• 30:42
  Like
• 30:42
  you
• 30:43
  just
• 30:43
  don't
• 30:43
  get
• 30:43
  characters
• 30:44
  like
• 30:44
  that
• 30:44
  anymore
• 30:45
  like
• 30:45
  calling
• 30:45
  out
• 30:45
  Alan
• 30:46
  Mallory's
• 30:46
  game.
• 30:48
  Yeah,
• 30:48
  I
• 30:48
  thought
• 30:48
  George
• 30:48
  Graham
• 30:49
  did
• 30:49
  very
• 30:49
  well.
• 30:49
  I
• 30:49
  thought
• 30:49
  he
• 30:50
  did
• 30:50
  great
• 30:50
  at
• 30:50
  Millwall.
• 30:51
  I
• 30:51
  mean
• 30:51
  he,
• 30:51
  he
• 30:52
  turned
• 30:52
  love
• 30:52
  into
• 30:52
  a
• 30:53
  proper
• 30:53
  center
• 30:53
  forward.
• 30:54
  I
• 30:54
  mean,
• 30:55
  you
• 30:56
  know,
• 30:56
  he
• 30:56
  really
• 30:56
  did
• 30:57
  well
• 30:57
  there
• 30:57
  at
• 30:57
  Millwall.
• 30:59
  Going
• 30:59
  on
• 30:59
  to
• 31:00
  Tottenham.
• 31:01
  Oh,
• 31:02
  quickly.
• 31:02
  Just
• 31:02
  let
• 31:02
  me
• 31:03
  ask
• 31:03
  you,
• 31:03
  I
• 31:03
  don't
• 31:03
  think
• 31:03
  I've
• 31:04
  ever
• 31:04
  asked
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  this
• 31:05
  up
• 31:05
  north,
• 31:06
  were
• 31:06
  you,
• 31:06
  were
• 31:06
  you
• 31:07
  a
• 31:07
  Sunderland
• 31:07
  or
• 31:07
  a
• 31:07
  Newcastle
• 31:08
  fan?
• 31:09
  Oh,
• 31:10
  so
• 31:10
  we're
• 31:11
  nearly
• 31:11
  fell
• 31:11
  out.
• 31:14
  I'm
• 31:14
  a,
• 31:14
  I'm
• 31:14
  a
• 31:15
  maam,
• 31:15
  I'm
• 31:16
  a
• 31:17
  fan
• 31:17
  through
• 31:17
  and
• 31:17
  through.
• 31:18
  Come
• 31:18
  on.
• 31:19
  Okay.
• 31:19
  New
• 31:19
  Castle,
• 31:21
  the
• 31:22
  mags.
• 31:22
  Okay.
• 31:23
  All
• 31:24
  right.
• 31:24
  No,
• 31:24
  I,
• 31:24
  I,
• 31:25
  I
• 31:25
  didn't
• 31:25
  know
• 31:25
  that
• 31:25
  because
• 31:26
  I,
• 31:26
  I,
• 31:27
  that
• 31:27
  was
• 31:27
  going
• 31:27
  to
• 31:28
  be
• 31:28
  One
• 31:28
  of
• 31:28
  my
• 31:28
  questions
• 31:29
  is
• 31:29
  that
• 31:29
  obviously
• 31:30
  I,
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  know
• 31:30
  you
• 31:30
  didn't
• 31:30
  play
• 31:30
  for
• 31:31
  him,
• 31:31
  but
• 31:31
  did
• 31:31
  you
• 31:31
  ever,
• 31:32
  did
• 31:32
  you
• 31:32
  ever
• 31:32
  really
• 31:33
  want
• 31:33
  to
• 31:33
  play
• 31:33
  for
• 31:33
  them
• 31:33
  as,
• 31:34
  as,
• 31:34
  as
• 31:34
  a,
• 31:34
  as
• 31:35
  a
• 31:35
  player?
• 31:35
  Can
• 31:36
  you
• 31:36
  imagine
• 31:36
  this,
• 31:37
  this
• 31:37
  was
• 31:37
  me
• 31:37
  in
• 31:40
  neighborhood,
• 31:41
  my
• 31:41
  background,
• 31:42
  my
• 31:42
  family.
• 31:44
  The,
• 31:44
  the
• 31:45
  chief
• 31:45
  scout
• 31:45
  of,
• 31:46
  of
• 31:46
  Sunderland
• 31:47
  Football
• 31:47
  Club
• 31:48
  came
• 31:48
  knocked
• 31:49
  on
• 31:49
  the
• 31:49
  front
• 31:49
  door
• 31:49
  one
• 31:50
  day.
• 31:51
  My
• 31:52
  dad
• 31:52
  answered
• 31:52
  the,
• 31:52
  answered
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  door.
• 31:54
  I
• 31:54
  recognized
• 31:55
  him
• 31:55
  straight
• 31:55
  away.
• 31:56
  He
• 31:56
  was
• 31:56
  obviously
• 31:56
  big
• 31:56
  in
• 31:56
  the
• 31:57
  northeast.
• 31:57
  Everybody
• 31:58
  knew
• 31:58
  this
• 31:58
  guy
• 31:59
  but
• 32:00
  he,
• 32:00
  he'd
• 32:00
  had
• 32:00
  a
• 32:00
  drink,
• 32:02
  he
• 32:02
  was
• 32:02
  half
• 32:03
  drunk
• 32:04
  and
• 32:05
  my
• 32:05
  dad
• 32:06
  chase
• 32:06
  them
• 32:07
  away
• 32:07
  from
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  front
• 32:07
  door.
• 32:08
  Don't
• 32:08
  come
• 32:08
  here
• 32:08
  ever
• 32:09
  again.
• 32:10
  Chase
• 32:11
  them.
• 32:11
  That
• 32:12
  was
• 32:12
  it.
• 32:12
  That
• 32:12
  was
• 32:13
  me
• 32:13
  in
• 32:13
  Sunland
• 32:13
  done.
• 32:14
  Because
• 32:14
  the
• 32:15
  guy
• 32:15
  chief
• 32:16
  scout
• 32:16
  come
• 32:17
  full
• 32:18
  of
• 32:18
  alcohol.
• 32:19
  Well,
• 32:19
  it's
• 32:19
  disrespectful,
• 32:20
  isn't
• 32:20
  it?
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  mean
• 32:20
  come
• 32:21
  on.
• 32:21
  He
• 32:21
  died.
• 32:22
  Just
• 32:22
  chased
• 32:22
  him
• 32:22
  one
• 32:23
  time.
• 32:23
  That,
• 32:24
  that
• 32:24
  was
• 32:24
  us
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  northeast
• 32:25
  of
• 32:25
  England.
• 32:25
  But
• 32:26
  you
• 32:26
  know,
• 32:26
  you
• 32:26
  couldn't
• 32:27
  do
• 32:27
  that.
• 32:27
  Yeah.
• 32:28
  This
• 32:28
  was
• 32:29
  him
• 32:29
  knocking
• 32:29
  on
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  door
• 32:30
  about
• 32:30
  your
• 32:31
  dad's
• 32:31
  son.
• 32:32
  Yeah,
• 32:33
  yeah.
• 32:34
  It's
• 32:34
  not,
• 32:34
  no
• 32:34
  crazy.
• 32:37
  Well,
• 32:37
  I'm
• 32:37
  sorry,
• 32:38
  I'm
• 32:38
  sure
• 32:38
  you'd
• 32:38
  love
• 32:39
  to
• 32:39
  play
• 32:39
  for
• 32:39
  him,
• 32:39
  but
• 32:40
  you
• 32:40
  can't
• 32:40
  be
• 32:40
  doing
• 32:41
  that
• 32:42
  on
• 32:43
  the
• 32:43
  Tottenham
• 32:44
  now
• 32:44
  you're
• 32:45
  joining
• 32:45
  Tottenham
• 32:46
  and.
• 32:47
  Am
• 32:48
  I
• 32:48
  right?
• 32:48
  So
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  guys
• 32:49
  is
• 32:50
  there,
• 32:50
  right,
• 32:50
  or.
• 32:50
  He
• 32:51
  was
• 32:51
  about
• 32:51
  to
• 32:51
  came
• 32:52
  after
• 32:52
  me.
• 32:52
  Yeah.
• 32:53
  And
• 32:53
  so
• 32:53
  I
• 32:54
  became.
• 32:54
  I
• 32:55
  became
• 32:55
  Gary,
• 32:55
  the
• 32:56
  highest
• 32:56
  paid
• 32:57
  footballer
• 32:58
  in
• 32:58
  London
• 32:59
  by
• 33:00
  going
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  Tottenham
• 33:02
  for
• 33:02
  almost
• 33:03
  a
• 33:03
  year.
• 33:04
  And
• 33:04
  then
• 33:04
  when
• 33:05
  Gaza
• 33:05
  came,
• 33:06
  Gaza
• 33:06
  blew
• 33:07
  everything
• 33:07
  away,
• 33:07
  of
• 33:08
  course.
• 33:08
  He
• 33:08
  was
• 33:08
  superstar.
• 33:09
  What
• 33:09
  a
• 33:09
  player,
• 33:10
  what
• 33:11
  a
• 33:11
  unbelievable
• 33:12
  character
• 33:14
  and
• 33:14
  quite
• 33:14
  rightly
• 33:15
  so,
• 33:15
  he
• 33:16
  became
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  top
• 33:17
  player
• 33:17
  in,
• 33:17
  I
• 33:17
  think
• 33:17
  in
• 33:18
  Great
• 33:18
  Britain
• 33:18
  at
• 33:18
  the
• 33:19
  time.
• 33:19
  Wow.
• 33:20
  What
• 33:21
  a
• 33:21
  player,
• 33:22
  what
• 33:22
  a.
• 33:22
  What
• 33:23
  character.
• 33:23
  The
• 33:23
  things
• 33:24
  he
• 33:24
  done
• 33:24
  on
• 33:24
  and
• 33:25
  off
• 33:25
  the
• 33:25
  field.
• 33:25
  A
• 33:25
  player
• 33:26
  was
• 33:26
  just
• 33:26
  unbelievable.
• 33:27
  Maverick
• 33:28
  has
• 33:28
  gone
• 33:28
  forward
• 33:28
  with
• 33:29
  Stuart
• 33:29
  to.
• 33:29
  The
• 33:29
  right
• 33:30
  lineker
• 33:30
  and
• 33:30
  Howells
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  the
• 33:31
  left.
• 33:32
  Is
• 33:32
  Gascoigne
• 33:33
  gonna
• 33:33
  have
• 33:33
  a
• 33:33
  crack?
• 33:33
  He
• 33:34
  is,
• 33:34
  you
• 33:34
  know.
• 33:34
  Oh,
• 33:35
  I
• 33:35
  say.
• 33:37
  Brilliant.
• 33:40
  That
• 33:42
  is
• 33:43
  schoolboy's
• 33:44
  own
• 33:44
  stuff.
• 33:45
  But
• 33:46
  this
• 33:46
  guy
• 33:46
  was
• 33:46
  a
• 33:46
  game
• 33:47
  changer.
• 33:48
  He
• 33:48
  was.
• 33:48
  Yeah.
• 33:49
  So
• 33:49
  far
• 33:50
  in
• 33:50
  advance
• 33:50
  of
• 33:50
  anybody
• 33:51
  else
• 33:52
  and
• 33:53
  confidence
• 33:54
  level
• 33:54
  was
• 33:54
  just
• 33:54
  incredible.
• 33:55
  Incredible.
• 33:57
  Broken
• 33:57
  up
• 33:57
  by
• 33:57
  Fennec
• 33:59
  Gascoigne.
• 34:01
  He's
• 34:01
  got
• 34:01
  players
• 34:02
  right
• 34:02
  and
• 34:02
  left.
• 34:05
  Gascoigne
• 34:06
  doesn't
• 34:06
  need
• 34:06
  them.
• 34:07
  Can
• 34:08
  he
• 34:08
  finish
• 34:08
  it
• 34:08
  now?
• 34:08
  He
• 34:09
  can.
• 34:09
  A
• 34:10
  fantastic
• 34:10
  goal
• 34:11
  by
• 34:11
  Paul
• 34:11
  Gascoigne.
• 34:12
  What
• 34:13
  a
• 34:13
  play.
• 34:13
  The
• 34:13
  ball.
• 34:14
  Doesn't
• 34:14
  matter
• 34:14
  how
• 34:14
  many
• 34:14
  players
• 34:15
  around.
• 34:15
  Give
• 34:15
  me
• 34:15
  the
• 34:16
  ball.
• 34:17
  That
• 34:17
  was
• 34:17
  Gaza.
• 34:18
  And
• 34:18
  when
• 34:18
  he
• 34:19
  got
• 34:19
  it,
• 34:19
  he
• 34:19
  knew
• 34:19
  he
• 34:19
  was
• 34:20
  going
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  do
• 34:20
  something
• 34:20
  special.
• 34:22
  Yeah.
• 34:22
  What,
• 34:22
  what,
• 34:23
  what?
• 34:23
  What
• 34:23
  a
• 34:23
  plat.
• 34:23
  Well,
• 34:24
  I
• 34:24
  mean,
• 34:24
  you
• 34:24
  had
• 34:24
  a
• 34:25
  very
• 34:25
  good
• 34:25
  side
• 34:25
  there.
• 34:26
  Huh?
• 34:26
  You
• 34:26
  had
• 34:27
  guys,
• 34:27
  you
• 34:27
  had
• 34:27
  Lineker
• 34:28
  up
• 34:28
  front,
• 34:28
  right
• 34:30
  up
• 34:30
  front.
• 34:32
  Paul
• 34:32
  Allen,
• 34:35
  you
• 34:35
  named
• 34:36
  some
• 34:36
  of
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  players
• 34:36
  that
• 34:37
  were
• 34:37
  there.
• 34:37
  Eric
• 34:37
  Torsbet
• 34:38
  was
• 34:38
  the
• 34:38
  goalkeeper.
• 34:39
  Yeah.
• 34:41
  Not
• 34:41
  as
• 34:41
  well
• 34:42
  known,
• 34:42
  but
• 34:42
  still
• 34:43
  a
• 34:43
  great
• 34:43
  keeper.
• 34:44
  Gary
• 34:44
  Mabbott
• 34:45
  was
• 34:45
  there.
• 34:46
  Chris
• 34:46
  Hootens
• 34:47
  was
• 34:47
  there
• 34:47
  for
• 34:47
  a
• 34:48
  little
• 34:48
  while.
• 34:49
  We
• 34:49
  had
• 34:50
  some
• 34:50
  great
• 34:50
  players
• 34:51
  paused
• 34:52
  in
• 34:52
  Midfield.
• 34:53
  Started
• 34:54
  at
• 34:54
  10
• 34:54
  forward.
• 34:54
  Terry
• 34:55
  made
• 34:55
  him
• 34:55
  into
• 34:55
  a
• 34:56
  top
• 34:56
  midfield
• 34:57
  player.
• 34:57
  Walshy
• 34:59
  my
• 35:00
  best.
• 35:00
  That's.
• 35:00
  I
• 35:00
  think
• 35:01
  that's.
• 35:01
  You
• 35:01
  know
• 35:01
  what
• 35:01
  tell.
• 35:02
  I
• 35:02
  think
• 35:02
  that
• 35:02
  was
• 35:02
  the
• 35:02
  last
• 35:02
  time
• 35:02
  I
• 35:03
  saw
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  with.
• 35:04
  With
• 35:04
  Wall
• 35:04
  Street.
• 35:05
  Yeah.
• 35:05
  Yeah.
• 35:06
  You
• 35:06
  just
• 35:07
  finished
• 35:07
  the.
• 35:07
  The.
• 35:07
  I
• 35:08
  think
• 35:08
  it
• 35:08
  was
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  Tottenham
• 35:09
  Christmas
• 35:09
  do.
• 35:10
  Yes.
• 35:11
  And
• 35:11
  you
• 35:11
  came
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  the
• 35:12
  club
• 35:12
  and
• 35:13
  you
• 35:13
  left
• 35:13
  early
• 35:14
  and
• 35:14
  you
• 35:14
  left
• 35:14
  me
• 35:14
  with
• 35:14
  Wall.
• 35:15
  She.
• 35:15
  That
• 35:15
  was,
• 35:15
  I
• 35:15
  think
• 35:15
  the
• 35:16
  last
• 35:16
  time
• 35:16
  I
• 35:16
  actually
• 35:17
  saw
• 35:17
  you
• 35:17
  in
• 35:17
  person.
• 35:18
  That
• 35:18
  was
• 35:18
  a
• 35:19
  lot.
• 35:19
  Wow.
• 35:19
  Yeah.
• 35:21
  There's
• 35:21
  a
• 35:21
  time
• 35:22
  ago
• 35:23
  good
• 35:24
  time
• 35:24
  at
• 35:24
  Tottenham.
• 35:24
  Would
• 35:25
  you
• 35:25
  look
• 35:25
  back
• 35:25
  on
• 35:25
  that
• 35:25
  and
• 35:25
  say
• 35:25
  you
• 35:26
  had
• 35:26
  a
• 35:26
  good
• 35:26
  time?
• 35:26
  It
• 35:26
  was
• 35:27
  enjoyable.
• 35:28
  It
• 35:28
  was
• 35:28
  a
• 35:28
  bit
• 35:28
  mixed,
• 35:29
  Gary.
• 35:29
  And
• 35:30
  let
• 35:30
  me
• 35:30
  tell
• 35:30
  you
• 35:30
  why.
• 35:33
  Alan
• 35:33
  Sugar,
• 35:34
  the
• 35:34
  chairman
• 35:34
  owner
• 35:36
  of
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  club,
• 35:38
  he
• 35:38
  made
• 35:38
  this
• 35:38
  statement
• 35:39
  with
• 35:39
  Terry
• 35:39
  once
• 35:40
  or
• 35:40
  twice.
• 35:41
  Why
• 35:41
  can't
• 35:41
  we
• 35:41
  operate
• 35:42
  like
• 35:42
  Wimbledon
• 35:43
  Football
• 35:43
  Club,
• 35:44
  get
• 35:44
  these
• 35:45
  guys
• 35:45
  in
• 35:45
  for
• 35:45
  cheap
• 35:46
  Quote
• 35:47
  them
• 35:47
  up
• 35:47
  and
• 35:47
  then
• 35:48
  sell
• 35:48
  them
• 35:48
  for
• 35:48
  big
• 35:48
  money.
• 35:49
  It
• 35:49
  was
• 35:49
  just
• 35:49
  about
• 35:49
  finance
• 35:50
  and
• 35:51
  making
• 35:51
  money
• 35:51
  for
• 35:52
  Alan
• 35:52
  Sugar.
• 35:53
  Yeah.
• 35:53
  Terry
• 35:53
  Venables
• 35:54
  just
• 35:55
  brought
• 35:55
  gasoline,
• 35:56
  brought
• 35:56
  in
• 35:56
  Lineker.
• 35:57
  But
• 35:58
  all
• 35:58
  of
• 35:58
  these
• 35:58
  top
• 35:59
  players,
• 35:59
  he
• 35:59
  wanted
• 36:00
  to
• 36:00
  win
• 36:00
  things.
• 36:00
  He
• 36:00
  wanted
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  be
• 36:02
  top
• 36:02
  of
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  list
• 36:03
  in
• 36:03
  that
• 36:03
  Premier
• 36:04
  League
• 36:04
  today
• 36:04
  are
• 36:05
  winning
• 36:05
  everything
• 36:06
  and
• 36:06
  we
• 36:06
  would
• 36:07
  have
• 36:07
  gone
• 36:07
  that
• 36:07
  route.
• 36:07
  That
• 36:08
  was
• 36:08
  Terry's
• 36:08
  background.
• 36:10
  Yes.
• 36:10
  He.
• 36:11
  He
• 36:11
  wasn't
• 36:11
  going
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  throw
• 36:12
  money
• 36:12
  down
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  drain.
• 36:13
  He
• 36:13
  would
• 36:14
  look
• 36:14
  out
• 36:14
  for
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  best
• 36:15
  players
• 36:15
  available
• 36:17
  and
• 36:17
  oh
• 36:17
  my
• 36:18
  God,
• 36:19
  Terry
• 36:20
  was
• 36:20
  a.
• 36:20
  He
• 36:21
  was
• 36:21
  organized
• 36:21
  and
• 36:22
  structured.
• 36:22
  Gary,
• 36:23
  he,
• 36:23
  he
• 36:24
  was
• 36:24
  one
• 36:24
  of
• 36:24
  them.
• 36:25
  You
• 36:25
  knew
• 36:25
  it
• 36:25
  was
• 36:26
  a
• 36:26
  matter
• 36:26
  of
• 36:26
  time
• 36:27
  but
• 36:27
  because
• 36:28
  he
• 36:28
  fell
• 36:28
  out
• 36:28
  with
• 36:28
  Sugar
• 36:29
  and
• 36:29
  went
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  court,
• 36:31
  it
• 36:32
  blew
• 36:32
  Tottenham
• 36:33
  otbur
• 36:33
  up.
• 36:34
  And
• 36:35
  then
• 36:35
  when
• 36:35
  they
• 36:35
  got
• 36:36
  rid
• 36:36
  of
• 36:36
  Terry,
• 36:36
  obviously
• 36:37
  me
• 36:37
  and
• 36:37
  Terry
• 36:38
  friends
• 36:38
  work
• 36:39
  together,
• 36:39
  all
• 36:39
  of
• 36:40
  that.
• 36:40
  All
• 36:40
  career.
• 36:41
  They
• 36:42
  got
• 36:42
  rid
• 36:42
  of
• 36:42
  me
• 36:42
  straight
• 36:43
  away
• 36:43
  as
• 36:43
  well.
• 36:43
  Get
• 36:44
  them
• 36:44
  out
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  club.
• 36:45
  Wow.
• 36:46
  Wow.
• 36:46
  Yeah,
• 36:46
  disappointing.
• 36:47
  But
• 36:48
  that's
• 36:49
  life,
• 36:49
  that's
• 36:49
  business,
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  suppose.
• 36:51
  Yeah.
• 36:51
  Yeah.
• 36:52
  Become
• 36:52
  even
• 36:52
  more
• 36:53
  apparent
• 36:53
  now.
• 36:53
  Football
• 36:54
  obviously
• 36:55
  much
• 36:55
  more
• 36:55
  of
• 36:55
  a
• 36:55
  business.
• 36:56
  Did
• 36:56
  you
• 36:56
  play
• 36:56
  in
• 36:56
  that
• 36:56
  game
• 36:57
  with
• 36:57
  against
• 36:57
  Arsenal
• 36:58
  when
• 36:58
  Gaza
• 36:59
  put
• 36:59
  it
• 36:59
  in
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  top
• 36:59
  corner.
• 36:59
  Was
• 37:00
  you
• 37:00
  playing
• 37:00
  in
• 37:00
  that?
• 37:00
  I
• 37:01
  brought
• 37:01
  my
• 37:01
  leg
• 37:01
  in
• 37:01
  the
• 37:03
  fifth
• 37:03
  round.
• 37:04
  Oh
• 37:04
  wow.
• 37:05
  Wow.
• 37:05
  Yeah,
• 37:06
  that's
• 37:06
  a
• 37:07
  shame.
• 37:07
  That
• 37:07
  was
• 37:07
  some
• 37:08
  goal
• 37:08
  out,
• 37:08
  wasn't
• 37:08
  it?
• 37:09
  Oh
• 37:09
  Gaza,
• 37:10
  what
• 37:11
  a
• 37:11
  player.
• 37:13
  After
• 37:14
  that
• 37:14
  you,
• 37:15
  you
• 37:15
  onto.
• 37:15
  Was
• 37:16
  it
• 37:16
  Swindon,
• 37:16
  Terry?
• 37:17
  I
• 37:18
  went
• 37:18
  on
• 37:18
  to
• 37:18
  Swindon.
• 37:19
  Yeah.
• 37:19
  I
• 37:19
  had
• 37:20
  a
• 37:20
  short
• 37:21
  three
• 37:21
  month
• 37:21
  spell
• 37:22
  with
• 37:22
  Leicester.
• 37:23
  Huh.
• 37:24
  We
• 37:24
  kept
• 37:24
  Leicester
• 37:25
  up.
• 37:26
  Yeah,
• 37:26
  I
• 37:27
  remember
• 37:27
  that
• 37:27
  now.
• 37:27
  Yeah.
• 37:28
  That
• 37:28
  was
• 37:28
  when
• 37:28
  David
• 37:29
  Pleat
• 37:29
  was
• 37:29
  the
• 37:29
  manager.
• 37:32
  They
• 37:32
  were
• 37:33
  struggling
• 37:33
  badly,
• 37:33
  didn't
• 37:34
  have
• 37:34
  enough
• 37:34
  players.
• 37:34
  I
• 37:35
  went
• 37:35
  there
• 37:35
  three
• 37:35
  months,
• 37:36
  kept
• 37:37
  them
• 37:37
  in
• 37:37
  the
• 37:38
  top
• 37:38
  division
• 37:39
  and
• 37:40
  not
• 37:41
  easy.
• 37:41
  But
• 37:41
  I
• 37:42
  then
• 37:42
  went
• 37:42
  down.
• 37:42
  Glenoddle
• 37:44
  was
• 37:44
  in
• 37:44
  charge
• 37:45
  of
• 37:46
  Swindon,
• 37:47
  Swindon
• 37:48
  Town.
• 37:48
  And
• 37:49
  then
• 37:49
  you
• 37:49
  give
• 37:49
  that
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  John
• 37:50
  Gorman.
• 37:51
  Yeah.
• 37:52
  Glenn
• 37:52
  went
• 37:52
  to
• 37:53
  Chelsea.
• 37:53
  John
• 37:54
  Gorman
• 37:54
  took
• 37:54
  over.
• 37:54
  He
• 37:55
  took
• 37:55
  me
• 37:55
  in
• 37:55
  there
• 37:56
  and
• 37:57
  it
• 37:57
  was
• 37:57
  a
• 37:58
  mixed
• 37:58
  time
• 37:58
  because
• 37:59
  I
• 37:59
  haven't
• 38:00
  worked
• 38:00
  with
• 38:00
  Terry
• 38:00
  Venables
• 38:01
  all
• 38:01
  my
• 38:01
  life
• 38:01
  and
• 38:02
  some
• 38:02
  top
• 38:02
  managers
• 38:03
  with,
• 38:03
  you
• 38:03
  know,
• 38:04
  Sir
• 38:04
  Bobby
• 38:05
  Robson
• 38:05
  and
• 38:05
  people
• 38:06
  they,
• 38:07
  you
• 38:07
  know,
• 38:07
  we
• 38:07
  were
• 38:08
  given
• 38:08
  goals
• 38:08
  away
• 38:08
  for
• 38:09
  fun
• 38:10
  and
• 38:10
  I
• 38:10
  kept
• 38:11
  on
• 38:11
  going
• 38:11
  into
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  manager's
• 38:12
  office.
• 38:13
  We've
• 38:13
  got
• 38:13
  to
• 38:13
  work
• 38:14
  on
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  training
• 38:14
  ground,
• 38:15
  get
• 38:15
  things
• 38:15
  structured.
• 38:16
  So
• 38:16
  we're
• 38:16
  all
• 38:16
  on
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  same
• 38:17
  page.
• 38:17
  We.
• 38:18
  Because
• 38:18
  that's
• 38:18
  how
• 38:19
  I'd
• 38:19
  been
• 38:19
  brought
• 38:19
  up,
• 38:19
  Gary.
• 38:20
  Yes,
• 38:20
  of
• 38:20
  course,
• 38:20
  of
• 38:21
  course.
• 38:21
  And
• 38:21
  he
• 38:22
  saw
• 38:22
  that
• 38:22
  as
• 38:23
  me
• 38:23
  interrupting
• 38:24
  him,
• 38:26
  not
• 38:26
  trying
• 38:26
  to
• 38:27
  help
• 38:27
  the
• 38:27
  team
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  help
• 38:28
  the
• 38:28
  club.
• 38:29
  He
• 38:29
  saw
• 38:29
  that
• 38:29
  as
• 38:30
  me
• 38:30
  being
• 38:30
  a
• 38:30
  pain
• 38:30
  in
• 38:31
  the
• 38:31
  ass
• 38:31
  basically.
• 38:33
  Because
• 38:34
  of
• 38:34
  that
• 38:34
  he
• 38:35
  wanted
• 38:35
  me
• 38:35
  out.
• 38:37
  Yeah.
• 38:38
  All
• 38:38
  of
• 38:38
  the.
• 38:39
  I
• 38:39
  played
• 38:39
  on
• 38:39
  the
• 38:39
  right
• 38:39
  hand
• 38:40
  side
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  defense.
• 38:41
  Everything
• 38:42
  we
• 38:42
  conceded
• 38:43
  came
• 38:43
  down
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  Left
• 38:44
  hand
• 38:44
  side.
• 38:45
  Because
• 38:45
  they
• 38:46
  weren't
• 38:46
  structured,
• 38:46
  weren't
• 38:47
  organized,
• 38:47
  they
• 38:48
  didn't
• 38:48
  know
• 38:48
  and
• 38:49
  it,
• 38:49
  we
• 38:50
  were
• 38:50
  all
• 38:50
  over
• 38:50
  the
• 38:50
  place.
• 38:51
  But
• 38:51
  I,
• 38:52
  with
• 38:52
  my
• 38:52
  voice,
• 38:53
  leadership,
• 38:54
  getting
• 38:54
  people
• 38:55
  in
• 38:55
  place,
• 38:55
  in
• 38:55
  my
• 38:56
  side
• 38:56
  of
• 38:56
  it,
• 38:57
  nothing
• 38:57
  came
• 38:57
  down
• 38:58
  our
• 38:58
  side,
• 38:58
  everything
• 38:58
  the
• 38:59
  opposite
• 38:59
  side.
• 38:59
  But
• 39:00
  when
• 39:00
  I
• 39:00
  brought
• 39:01
  this
• 39:01
  up
• 39:01
  in
• 39:01
  maintenance,
• 39:02
  he
• 39:03
  didn't
• 39:03
  like
• 39:03
  it,
• 39:03
  they
• 39:04
  didn't
• 39:04
  like
• 39:04
  it.
• 39:04
  Now
• 39:06
  I,
• 39:06
  I
• 39:06
  mean
• 39:07
  I,
• 39:07
  I
• 39:08
  may
• 39:08
  be
• 39:08
  speaking
• 39:08
  at
• 39:08
  a
• 39:09
  turn
• 39:09
  here,
• 39:09
  who
• 39:09
  would
• 39:10
  know
• 39:10
  better
• 39:10
  than
• 39:10
  you?
• 39:10
  But
• 39:11
  I
• 39:12
  would
• 39:12
  imagine
• 39:12
  that
• 39:12
  when
• 39:12
  you're
• 39:13
  a
• 39:13
  good
• 39:13
  coach,
• 39:13
  when
• 39:14
  you're
• 39:14
  a
• 39:14
  top
• 39:14
  coach,
• 39:15
  you
• 39:15
  listen
• 39:15
  to
• 39:15
  your
• 39:16
  players
• 39:16
  because
• 39:18
  you're
• 39:18
  only
• 39:18
  as
• 39:18
  good
• 39:19
  as
• 39:19
  your
• 39:19
  players.
• 39:19
  Right.
• 39:20
  So
• 39:20
  if
• 39:20
  the
• 39:20
  players
• 39:20
  are
• 39:20
  thinking
• 39:21
  that
• 39:21
  the
• 39:21
  system's
• 39:21
  not
• 39:22
  working,
• 39:22
  it's
• 39:22
  best
• 39:22
  to
• 39:22
  have
• 39:23
  a
• 39:23
  listen
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  them
• 39:23
  and
• 39:23
  have
• 39:24
  a
• 39:24
  conversation
• 39:24
  with
• 39:24
  them,
• 39:24
  Correct?
• 39:25
  Absolutely.
• 39:26
  You've
• 39:26
  got
• 39:27
  to
• 39:27
  communicate.
• 39:28
  You
• 39:28
  see,
• 39:29
  you're
• 39:29
  spot
• 39:29
  on
• 39:29
  there,
• 39:30
  Gary.
• 39:30
  When,
• 39:31
  when
• 39:31
  you
• 39:31
  are
• 39:31
  in
• 39:32
  football
• 39:32
  sport
• 39:34
  and
• 39:34
  you're
• 39:35
  a
• 39:35
  captain
• 39:35
  of
• 39:36
  a
• 39:36
  team,
• 39:37
  that
• 39:37
  leadership
• 39:37
  quality
• 39:38
  is
• 39:39
  not
• 39:40
  threatening
• 39:40
  everyone,
• 39:41
  it's
• 39:41
  getting
• 39:42
  on
• 39:42
  with
• 39:42
  everyone
• 39:42
  and
• 39:43
  bringing
• 39:43
  people
• 39:43
  together.
• 39:44
  There
• 39:45
  might
• 39:45
  be
• 39:45
  little
• 39:45
  one
• 39:46
  or
• 39:46
  two
• 39:46
  in
• 39:46
  the,
• 39:46
  in
• 39:47
  the
• 39:47
  squad
• 39:47
  of
• 39:47
  players
• 39:48
  that
• 39:48
  don't
• 39:48
  get
• 39:48
  on.
• 39:49
  It's
• 39:49
  your
• 39:50
  job
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  bring
• 39:50
  them
• 39:51
  together.
• 39:51
  Sure.
• 39:52
  So
• 39:52
  we
• 39:53
  as
• 39:53
  a
• 39:53
  team
• 39:54
  move
• 39:54
  forward
• 39:55
  together
• 39:55
  and
• 39:55
  we
• 39:55
  have
• 39:56
  success
• 39:56
  together.
• 39:56
  We
• 39:57
  work
• 39:57
  hard
• 39:57
  at
• 39:57
  the
• 39:57
  same
• 39:58
  things.
• 39:59
  You
• 39:59
  know,
• 40:00
  one
• 40:01
  or
• 40:01
  two
• 40:01
  managers
• 40:01
  that
• 40:02
  I've
• 40:02
  had,
• 40:02
  not
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  same,
• 40:03
  but
• 40:04
  certainly,
• 40:04
  my
• 40:04
  God,
• 40:05
  Terry
• 40:06
  Venables,
• 40:06
  Sir
• 40:07
  Bobby
• 40:07
  Robson,
• 40:08
  George
• 40:09
  Graham,
• 40:09
  that,
• 40:10
  that's
• 40:10
  what
• 40:10
  they
• 40:11
  were
• 40:11
  all
• 40:11
  about.
• 40:11
  They
• 40:11
  used
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  bring
• 40:12
  things
• 40:12
  together,
• 40:13
  they
• 40:13
  used
• 40:13
  to
• 40:13
  discuss
• 40:14
  things,
• 40:14
  make
• 40:15
  sure
• 40:15
  we
• 40:15
  were
• 40:15
  all
• 40:15
  on
• 40:15
  the
• 40:16
  same
• 40:16
  page.
• 40:17
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  Fantastic,
• 40:19
  fantastic
• 40:20
  career.
• 40:20
  We're
• 40:20
  gonna
• 40:21
  move
• 40:21
  on
• 40:22
  to
• 40:23
  Sir
• 40:23
  Bobby
• 40:23
  Robson
• 40:24
  now,
• 40:25
  obviously
• 40:25
  we're
• 40:26
  gonna
• 40:26
  have
• 40:27
  a
• 40:27
  chat
• 40:27
  about
• 40:27
  England
• 40:28
  because
• 40:29
  it's
• 40:29
  40
• 40:30
  years
• 40:30
  this
• 40:30
  year,
• 40:30
  Terry.
• 40:31
  You
• 40:31
  know,
• 40:31
  it's
• 40:31
  40
• 40:31
  years
• 40:32
  since
• 40:33
  that
• 40:33
  World
• 40:33
  cup
• 40:34
  game,
• 40:34
  1986.
• 40:36
  Yes.
• 40:37
  And
• 40:39
  me
• 40:39
  knowing
• 40:40
  you,
• 40:40
  and
• 40:40
  now
• 40:40
  we
• 40:40
  started
• 40:41
  this
• 40:41
  conversation
• 40:41
  off
• 40:42
  about
• 40:43
  such
• 40:43
  a
• 40:43
  proud
• 40:44
  Englishman
• 40:44
  you
• 40:44
  are
• 40:46
  to
• 40:46
  play
• 40:46
  for
• 40:46
  your
• 40:46
  country,
• 40:47
  to
• 40:48
  play
• 40:48
  in
• 40:48
  a
• 40:48
  World
• 40:48
  cup,
• 40:49
  to
• 40:49
  play
• 40:49
  in
• 40:49
  a
• 40:49
  World
• 40:50
  cup
• 40:50
  quarter
• 40:50
  final.
• 40:51
  Yeah.
• 40:52
  And
• 40:52
  against
• 40:53
  Maradona.
• 40:54
  You've
• 40:54
  got
• 40:54
  everything
• 40:55
  there.
• 40:55
  We
• 40:55
  didn't
• 40:56
  really
• 40:56
  get
• 40:56
  going,
• 40:56
  did
• 40:56
  we,
• 40:57
  to
• 40:57
  the
• 40:57
  last
• 40:58
  qualifying
• 40:58
  game,
• 40:59
  did
• 40:59
  we?
• 40:59
  In
• 40:59
  the
• 40:59
  group,
• 40:59
  we
• 41:00
  started
• 41:00
  badly.
• 41:01
  We,
• 41:01
  we
• 41:02
  got
• 41:02
  beat
• 41:02
  1
• 41:02
  nil
• 41:03
  off
• 41:03
  of
• 41:03
  Portugal.
• 41:07
  But
• 41:07
  then
• 41:08
  from
• 41:08
  then
• 41:09
  3
• 41:09
  nil.
• 41:10
  3
• 41:10
  nil.
• 41:10
  We,
• 41:11
  we
• 41:11
  picked,
• 41:11
  we
• 41:11
  started
• 41:12
  picking
• 41:12
  things
• 41:12
  up
• 41:13
  and
• 41:13
  we
• 41:14
  had
• 41:14
  Gary,
• 41:14
  we
• 41:14
  had
• 41:15
  a
• 41:15
  good
• 41:15
  squad.
• 41:16
  Yeah.
• 41:16
  What
• 41:17
  people
• 41:17
  don't
• 41:18
  realize
• 41:18
  here,
• 41:18
  this
• 41:19
  is
• 41:19
  the
• 41:19
  difference
• 41:20
  in
• 41:21
  top
• 41:22
  coaching
• 41:23
  and
• 41:23
  management.
• 41:25
  Sir
• 41:25
  Bobby
• 41:25
  Robson,
• 41:26
  what
• 41:27
  a
• 41:27
  gentleman.
• 41:28
  What
• 41:28
  an
• 41:28
  absolute
• 41:29
  top
• 41:29
  man
• 41:30
  he
• 41:30
  was.
• 41:30
  He
• 41:30
  was
• 41:30
  brilliant.
• 41:31
  He
• 41:32
  was
• 41:32
  probably
• 41:32
  the
• 41:33
  best
• 41:33
  man
• 41:33
  manager
• 41:34
  I've
• 41:35
  ever
• 41:35
  come
• 41:35
  across.
• 41:36
  And
• 41:36
  the
• 41:36
  team
• 41:36
  news
• 41:37
  is
• 41:37
  that
• 41:37
  Terry.
• 41:37
  Fennec
• 41:38
  returns
• 41:38
  to
• 41:38
  the
• 41:38
  defense
• 41:39
  in
• 41:39
  place
• 41:39
  of
• 41:39
  Alvin
• 41:39
  Martin
• 41:40
  with
• 41:40
  the
• 41:40
  awesome
• 41:41
  task.
• 41:41
  Presumably
• 41:42
  of
• 41:42
  marking
• 41:43
  the
• 41:43
  great
• 41:43
  Diego
• 41:43
  Maradona.
• 41:44
  Now,
• 41:44
  Bobby,
• 41:45
  you
• 41:45
  told
• 41:45
  us
• 41:45
  earlier
• 41:45
  today
• 41:46
  that
• 41:46
  you
• 41:46
  thought
• 41:46
  Alvin
• 41:46
  Martin
• 41:47
  had
• 41:47
  played
• 41:47
  the
• 41:47
  best
• 41:47
  international
• 41:48
  of
• 41:49
  his
• 41:49
  life.
• 41:49
  And
• 41:49
  yet
• 41:49
  you've
• 41:50
  gone,
• 41:50
  gone
• 41:50
  for
• 41:50
  Terry
• 41:51
  Fenic.
• 41:51
  Just,
• 41:51
  just
• 41:51
  explain
• 41:52
  your
• 41:52
  thinking
• 41:52
  behind
• 41:52
  that.
• 41:53
  Well,
• 41:53
  I
• 41:53
  don't
• 41:54
  have
• 41:54
  to
• 41:54
  for
• 41:54
  a
• 41:54
  start.
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  don't
• 41:56
  have
• 41:56
  to
• 41:56
  explain
• 41:57
  that
• 41:57
  to
• 41:57
  anybody.
• 41:57
  I
• 41:57
  don't
• 41:57
  even
• 41:58
  have
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  explain
• 41:58
  that
• 41:58
  to
• 41:58
  my
• 41:58
  chairman.
• 41:59
  Because
• 42:00
  if
• 42:01
  you
• 42:01
  were
• 42:01
  in
• 42:01
  that
• 42:01
  England
• 42:02
  squad,
• 42:03
  I'm
• 42:04
  playing
• 42:04
  for
• 42:04
  Queen's
• 42:04
  Park
• 42:05
  Rangers,
• 42:05
  Tottenham,
• 42:06
  odba,
• 42:06
  whoever
• 42:06
  else
• 42:08
  I
• 42:08
  would
• 42:08
  get
• 42:08
  a
• 42:09
  phone
• 42:09
  call
• 42:09
  from
• 42:09
  Bobby.
• 42:10
  I
• 42:11
  saw
• 42:11
  your
• 42:11
  game
• 42:11
  at
• 42:11
  the
• 42:11
  weekend,
• 42:12
  Terry.
• 42:12
  That
• 42:13
  went
• 42:13
  well.
• 42:13
  This
• 42:13
  went
• 42:14
  well,
• 42:14
  Bump.
• 42:14
  I
• 42:14
  thought
• 42:15
  you
• 42:15
  could
• 42:15
  have
• 42:15
  done
• 42:15
  that
• 42:15
  maybe
• 42:16
  a
• 42:16
  little
• 42:16
  better
• 42:16
  than
• 42:17
  this.
• 42:17
  And
• 42:18
  that's
• 42:18
  how
• 42:18
  he
• 42:18
  was.
• 42:19
  That
• 42:19
  was
• 42:19
  his
• 42:19
  man
• 42:19
  management.
• 42:20
  He
• 42:20
  used
• 42:20
  to
• 42:21
  perform
• 42:21
  with
• 42:22
  every
• 42:22
  player
• 42:23
  and
• 42:24
  we
• 42:24
  put
• 42:24
  our
• 42:25
  lives
• 42:25
  on
• 42:25
  the
• 42:25
  line
• 42:26
  for
• 42:26
  Sir
• 42:26
  Bobby.
• 42:27
  He
• 42:27
  was
• 42:27
  brilliant.
• 42:29
  Now,
• 42:30
  Don
• 42:30
  Howe
• 42:31
  was
• 42:31
  his
• 42:31
  coach
• 42:33
  and
• 42:33
  Don
• 42:34
  good
• 42:35
  coach,
• 42:35
  don't
• 42:36
  get
• 42:36
  me
• 42:36
  wrong.
• 42:37
  Very
• 42:37
  defensive
• 42:38
  minded.
• 42:39
  Yes,
• 42:39
  very
• 42:40
  defensive
• 42:40
  minded,
• 42:42
  but
• 42:42
  in
• 42:43
  my
• 42:43
  opinion,
• 42:44
  not
• 42:44
  even
• 42:44
  close
• 42:44
  to
• 42:45
  Terry
• 42:45
  Venables.
• 42:46
  Not.
• 42:48
  But
• 42:48
  the
• 42:48
  balance.
• 42:49
  And
• 42:49
  that
• 42:49
  there
• 42:50
  won
• 42:51
  a
• 42:51
  coach
• 42:52
  and
• 42:52
  Sir
• 42:52
  Bobby
• 42:53
  the
• 42:53
  man
• 42:53
  manager.
• 42:54
  My
• 42:55
  God,
• 42:55
  we
• 42:55
  had
• 42:56
  Brian
• 42:57
  Robson,
• 42:58
  captain
• 42:59
  of
• 42:59
  the
• 42:59
  England
• 42:59
  team,
• 43:00
  Manchester
• 43:00
  United
• 43:01
  captain,
• 43:01
  great
• 43:02
  lad.
• 43:03
  And
• 43:04
  the
• 43:04
  camaraderie
• 43:05
  inside
• 43:05
  the
• 43:06
  squad
• 43:06
  was
• 43:06
  unbelievable.
• 43:07
  That
• 43:08
  was
• 43:08
  because
• 43:08
  of
• 43:08
  Sir
• 43:09
  Bobby.
• 43:10
  Yeah.
• 43:10
  Brought
• 43:11
  people
• 43:11
  together
• 43:11
  like
• 43:12
  that.
• 43:12
  We
• 43:12
  want
• 43:12
  to
• 43:12
  go
• 43:12
  to
• 43:13
  war
• 43:13
  together.
• 43:14
  Yeah.
• 43:14
  We're
• 43:15
  not
• 43:15
  allowing
• 43:15
  anybody
• 43:16
  to
• 43:16
  beat
• 43:16
  us.
• 43:16
  We're
• 43:17
  going
• 43:17
  to
• 43:17
  what?
• 43:17
  It
• 43:17
  was
• 43:18
  unbelievable.
• 43:18
  That
• 43:19
  was
• 43:19
  the
• 43:19
  passion
• 43:19
  that
• 43:20
  he,
• 43:20
  he
• 43:20
  put
• 43:21
  within
• 43:21
  his,
• 43:21
  his
• 43:22
  team,
• 43:22
  his
• 43:22
  players,
• 43:23
  everything
• 43:23
  he'd
• 43:23
  done.
• 43:24
  He
• 43:24
  was
• 43:24
  brilliant.
• 43:25
  Yeah,
• 43:26
  no,
• 43:26
  we,
• 43:26
  we,
• 43:27
  we,
• 43:27
  we
• 43:28
  actually
• 43:28
  did
• 43:28
  all
• 43:28
  right
• 43:29
  that
• 43:29
  day,
• 43:29
  I
• 43:29
  think,
• 43:29
  against
• 43:30
  Argentina.
• 43:33
  I'll
• 43:33
  give
• 43:33
  you,
• 43:33
  I'll
• 43:33
  give
• 43:34
  you
• 43:34
  what
• 43:34
  I
• 43:34
  think
• 43:34
  is
• 43:34
  an
• 43:35
  example.
• 43:35
  So,
• 43:36
  yeah,
• 43:36
  we
• 43:36
  all
• 43:36
  know
• 43:37
  Maradona's
• 43:38
  second
• 43:38
  goal
• 43:38
  was
• 43:38
  a
• 43:38
  great
• 43:39
  goal.
• 43:41
  But
• 43:41
  for
• 43:41
  me,
• 43:41
  you
• 43:42
  boys
• 43:42
  are
• 43:42
  still
• 43:42
  thinking
• 43:43
  about
• 43:43
  the
• 43:43
  first
• 43:43
  goal.
• 43:44
  Like
• 43:44
  for
• 43:44
  me,
• 43:45
  if
• 43:45
  the
• 43:45
  first
• 43:46
  goal's
• 43:46
  not
• 43:46
  given,
• 43:46
  he
• 43:47
  doesn't
• 43:47
  score
• 43:47
  that
• 43:48
  second
• 43:48
  goal
• 43:48
  because
• 43:48
  we're
• 43:49
  more
• 43:49
  switched
• 43:49
  on.
• 43:50
  Am
• 43:50
  I
• 43:50
  correct
• 43:50
  there?
• 43:51
  Yep,
• 43:51
  absolutely.
• 43:52
  I
• 43:52
  mean,
• 43:53
  that's
• 43:53
  just
• 43:53
  what
• 43:54
  I
• 43:54
  feel.
• 43:54
  And
• 43:55
  it's
• 43:55
  very
• 43:55
  similar
• 43:56
  to
• 43:56
  me,
• 43:58
  if
• 43:58
  you
• 43:58
  look
• 43:58
  back
• 43:58
  at
• 43:59
  the
• 43:59
  reports
• 43:59
  of
• 43:59
  the
• 43:59
  2010
• 44:00
  game
• 44:00
  against
• 44:01
  Germany,
• 44:02
  you
• 44:02
  read
• 44:02
  the
• 44:03
  reports,
• 44:03
  it's
• 44:03
  like,
• 44:03
  oh,
• 44:03
  England
• 44:04
  got
• 44:04
  hammered.
• 44:05
  Well,
• 44:05
  they
• 44:06
  didn't
• 44:06
  really
• 44:06
  get
• 44:06
  hammered
• 44:07
  because
• 44:07
  if
• 44:07
  Frank
• 44:07
  Lampard's
• 44:08
  goal
• 44:08
  is
• 44:08
  given,
• 44:09
  that's
• 44:09
  a
• 44:09
  two,
• 44:09
  two
• 44:10
  at
• 44:10
  half
• 44:10
  time.
• 44:11
  Right.
• 44:12
  So
• 44:12
  you.
• 44:12
  As
• 44:12
  you
• 44:12
  know,
• 44:13
  I
• 44:13
  don't
• 44:14
  need
• 44:14
  to
• 44:14
  tell
• 44:14
  you,
• 44:14
  you
• 44:15
  go
• 44:15
  in
• 44:15
  at
• 44:15
  halftime
• 44:16
  at
• 44:16
  2:2,
• 44:16
  it's
• 44:16
  a
• 44:17
  completely
• 44:17
  different
• 44:17
  game.
• 44:18
  It's
• 44:18
  a
• 44:18
  completely
• 44:19
  different
• 44:19
  chat.
• 44:21
  Changes
• 44:21
  the
• 44:21
  whole
• 44:22
  structure
• 44:23
  of
• 44:23
  the
• 44:23
  game.
• 44:23
  And
• 44:23
  I
• 44:23
  feel
• 44:24
  that.
• 44:25
  I
• 44:25
  mean,
• 44:25
  for
• 44:26
  instance,
• 44:26
  you.
• 44:27
  Where
• 44:27
  was
• 44:27
  your
• 44:27
  head
• 44:28
  at
• 44:28
  once
• 44:29
  you
• 44:29
  realized
• 44:29
  that
• 44:29
  ref
• 44:30
  was
• 44:30
  going
• 44:30
  to
• 44:30
  give
• 44:30
  that
• 44:31
  goal?
• 44:31
  You
• 44:31
  know,
• 44:31
  I
• 44:32
  chased
• 44:32
  him
• 44:32
  to
• 44:32
  the
• 44:32
  halfway
• 44:33
  line.
• 44:34
  I
• 44:34
  was
• 44:34
  already
• 44:34
  on
• 44:34
  a
• 44:35
  yellow
• 44:35
  card.
• 44:35
  He
• 44:35
  went
• 44:36
  to
• 44:36
  put
• 44:36
  his
• 44:36
  hand
• 44:36
  in
• 44:36
  his
• 44:36
  pocket,
• 44:37
  and
• 44:37
  I
• 44:37
  was
• 44:37
  worried
• 44:37
  in
• 44:37
  case
• 44:38
  a
• 44:38
  red
• 44:38
  card
• 44:38
  was
• 44:38
  coming
• 44:39
  out
• 44:39
  for
• 44:39
  me.
• 44:40
  See,
• 44:41
  when
• 44:41
  you
• 44:42
  recap
• 44:42
  back
• 44:43
  in
• 44:43
  the
• 44:43
  day,
• 44:43
  then
• 44:44
  the
• 44:44
  linesman
• 44:45
  could
• 44:46
  only
• 44:46
  give
• 44:46
  offside
• 44:47
  and
• 44:47
  throw
• 44:47
  in
• 44:49
  any
• 44:49
  decisions
• 44:50
  on
• 44:50
  free
• 44:50
  kicks,
• 44:51
  anything
• 44:51
  on
• 44:52
  the
• 44:52
  field
• 44:52
  of
• 44:52
  player,
• 44:53
  and
• 44:53
  the
• 44:54
  referee
• 44:54
  wasn't
• 44:55
  in
• 44:55
  the
• 44:55
  best
• 44:55
  position.
• 44:56
  But
• 44:56
  the
• 44:56
  whole
• 44:57
  world
• 44:57
  saw
• 44:58
  handball,
• 44:59
  which
• 45:00
  was
• 45:00
  turned
• 45:00
  into
• 45:00
  the
• 45:01
  hand
• 45:01
  of
• 45:01
  God.
• 45:01
  No,
• 45:02
  it
• 45:02
  was
• 45:03
  a
• 45:03
  handball
• 45:03
  free
• 45:04
  kick.
• 45:04
  England.
• 45:05
  Yeah.
• 45:05
  We
• 45:06
  were
• 45:06
  in
• 45:06
  complete
• 45:07
  shock,
• 45:07
  Gary.
• 45:08
  Yeah,
• 45:09
  the
• 45:09
  whole
• 45:09
  England
• 45:10
  team,
• 45:11
  everybody
• 45:12
  was
• 45:12
  in
• 45:12
  shock
• 45:12
  because
• 45:13
  within
• 45:13
  five
• 45:13
  minutes,
• 45:14
  he
• 45:15
  scores
• 45:15
  Maradona
• 45:17
  what
• 45:17
  was
• 45:18
  recognized
• 45:18
  as
• 45:19
  the
• 45:19
  best
• 45:19
  ever
• 45:19
  goal
• 45:20
  in
• 45:20
  World
• 45:20
  cup
• 45:20
  football.
• 45:21
  When
• 45:21
  he
• 45:21
  dribbles
• 45:22
  from
• 45:22
  the
• 45:22
  halfway
• 45:22
  line.
• 45:23
  Pastor
• 45:23
  Halting.
• 45:24
  We
• 45:24
  were
• 45:24
  in
• 45:24
  a
• 45:24
  mess
• 45:24
  mentally.
• 45:26
  I
• 45:26
  could
• 45:26
  not
• 45:27
  believe
• 45:28
  that
• 45:28
  goal.
• 45:28
  Hand
• 45:29
  of
• 45:29
  God,
• 45:30
  goal
• 45:30
  was
• 45:30
  given.
• 45:31
  Maradona
• 45:32
  turns
• 45:32
  like
• 45:32
  a
• 45:33
  little
• 45:33
  eel
• 45:33
  and
• 45:33
  comes
• 45:33
  away
• 45:34
  from
• 45:34
  trouble.
• 45:34
  Little
• 45:35
  squat
• 45:35
  man
• 45:36
  comes
• 45:36
  inside.
• 45:36
  Butcher
• 45:37
  leads
• 45:37
  him
• 45:37
  for
• 45:37
  dead
• 45:38
  outside.
• 45:38
  Fennec
• 45:38
  leads
• 45:39
  him
• 45:39
  for
• 45:39
  dead
• 45:39
  and
• 45:40
  puts
• 45:40
  the
• 45:40
  ball
• 45:40
  away.
• 45:41
  And
• 45:41
  that
• 45:41
  is
• 45:41
  why
• 45:42
  Maradon
• 45:42
  is
• 45:42
  the
• 45:43
  greatest
• 45:43
  player
• 45:43
  in
• 45:43
  the
• 45:43
  world.
• 45:44
  He
• 45:45
  buried
• 45:45
  the
• 45:45
  English
• 45:46
  defense.
• 45:46
  He
• 45:46
  picked
• 45:47
  up
• 45:47
  that
• 45:47
  ball
• 45:47
  40
• 45:48
  yards
• 45:48
  out
• 45:49
  first.
• 45:49
  He
• 45:49
  left
• 45:50
  one
• 45:50
  man
• 45:50
  for
• 45:50
  Dave
• 45:50
  first.
• 45:52
  It's
• 45:52
  a
• 45:52
  goal
• 45:53
  of
• 45:53
  great
• 45:53
  quality
• 45:54
  by
• 45:54
  a
• 45:54
  player
• 45:54
  of
• 45:55
  the
• 45:55
  greatest
• 45:55
  quality.
• 45:55
  For
• 45:56
  me,
• 45:56
  it's
• 45:56
  taken
• 45:56
  a
• 45:56
  lot
• 45:57
  of
• 45:57
  shine
• 45:57
  off
• 45:57
  that
• 45:57
  second
• 45:58
  goal.
• 45:58
  Yeah,
• 45:58
  it
• 45:58
  was
• 45:58
  a
• 45:58
  good,
• 45:58
  good,
• 45:59
  good.
• 45:59
  It
• 45:59
  was
• 46:00
  a
• 46:00
  good
• 46:00
  goal.
• 46:00
  But
• 46:00
  I.
• 46:00
  I
• 46:01
  feel
• 46:01
  that
• 46:01
  one
• 46:01
  of
• 46:01
  you
• 46:01
  would
• 46:02
  have
• 46:02
  got
• 46:02
  attacked
• 46:02
  in.
• 46:02
  And
• 46:03
  I'm
• 46:03
  not
• 46:03
  taking
• 46:03
  anything
• 46:04
  away
• 46:04
  from
• 46:04
  Maradona.
• 46:05
  I
• 46:05
  mean,
• 46:05
  he's
• 46:05
  done
• 46:05
  enough
• 46:05
  in
• 46:06
  his
• 46:06
  whole
• 46:06
  career.
• 46:06
  But
• 46:07
  the
• 46:07
  thing
• 46:07
  is,
• 46:08
  that
• 46:08
  was
• 46:08
  such
• 46:09
  a
• 46:09
  travesty.
• 46:10
  Of
• 46:10
  course,
• 46:10
  everybody's
• 46:11
  head
• 46:11
  is
• 46:11
  somewhere
• 46:11
  else.
• 46:12
  Of
• 46:12
  course
• 46:12
  it
• 46:12
  is.
• 46:13
  Their
• 46:13
  team
• 46:14
  are
• 46:14
  10
• 46:15
  players,
• 46:15
  including
• 46:16
  the
• 46:16
  goalkeeper.
• 46:17
  Defend,
• 46:18
  defend,
• 46:18
  defend.
• 46:19
  And
• 46:19
  when
• 46:19
  we
• 46:19
  win
• 46:19
  it,
• 46:20
  give
• 46:20
  it
• 46:20
  a
• 46:20
  Maradona.
• 46:21
  Yeah.
• 46:22
  That
• 46:22
  was
• 46:22
  their
• 46:22
  game
• 46:22
  plan.
• 46:23
  Yeah.
• 46:23
  We
• 46:23
  can't
• 46:24
  argue.
• 46:24
  They
• 46:24
  went
• 46:25
  on
• 46:25
  to
• 46:25
  win
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  World
• 46:26
  cup.
• 46:28
  And
• 46:28
  we
• 46:28
  were
• 46:28
  actually
• 46:29
  on
• 46:29
  the
• 46:29
  deer.
• 46:30
  I
• 46:30
  felt
• 46:30
  we
• 46:31
  were
• 46:31
  the
• 46:31
  better
• 46:31
  team.
• 46:32
  Yes.
• 46:33
  We
• 46:33
  went
• 46:33
  2
• 46:33
  nil
• 46:34
  down.
• 46:34
  We
• 46:35
  got
• 46:35
  one
• 46:35
  goal
• 46:36
  back,
• 46:36
  got
• 46:36
  back
• 46:36
  in
• 46:36
  it.
• 46:37
  Yeah.
• 46:37
  And
• 46:37
  Gary
• 46:38
  Lineker
• 46:38
  should
• 46:38
  have
• 46:38
  scored
• 46:39
  a
• 46:39
  second
• 46:39
  goal
• 46:39
  that
• 46:39
  was
• 46:40
  right
• 46:40
  on
• 46:40
  the
• 46:40
  goal
• 46:41
  line.
• 46:41
  And
• 46:41
  he.
• 46:42
  If
• 46:42
  he
• 46:42
  tackles
• 46:43
  it,
• 46:43
  it
• 46:43
  goes
• 46:43
  in.
• 46:44
  And
• 46:44
  he
• 46:44
  didn't.
• 46:45
  We
• 46:45
  should
• 46:46
  have
• 46:46
  gotten
• 46:47
  2,
• 46:48
  2
• 46:48
  by
• 46:48
  full
• 46:48
  time
• 46:49
  and
• 46:49
  then
• 46:49
  into
• 46:50
  add
• 46:50
  on
• 46:50
  extra
• 46:51
  time,
• 46:51
  we'd
• 46:52
  have
• 46:52
  won
• 46:52
  the
• 46:52
  game.
• 46:53
  Yeah,
• 46:54
  that
• 46:54
  was.
• 46:54
  Yeah,
• 46:55
  that
• 46:56
  was
• 46:56
  how
• 46:56
  football
• 46:56
  was
• 46:57
  then.
• 46:57
  We
• 46:58
  had
• 46:59
  officials
• 47:00
  frightened
• 47:00
  to
• 47:00
  make
• 47:01
  that
• 47:01
  big
• 47:01
  decision.
• 47:02
  It
• 47:02
  was
• 47:03
  handball.
• 47:04
  Yeah.
• 47:04
  Imagine
• 47:05
  that
• 47:05
  in
• 47:05
  today's
• 47:06
  game
• 47:06
  when
• 47:06
  you
• 47:06
  see
• 47:07
  that's
• 47:08
  generated
• 47:08
  through
• 47:09
  football
• 47:09
  and
• 47:10
  soccer.
• 47:10
  Today
• 47:11
  we
• 47:11
  got
• 47:11
  the
• 47:11
  World
• 47:11
  cup
• 47:12
  coming
• 47:12
  20,
• 47:13
  26,
• 47:13
  right
• 47:14
  here
• 47:14
  in
• 47:15
  the
• 47:15
  U.S.
• 47:15
  here,
• 47:16
  everything
• 47:17
  booming.
• 47:18
  They
• 47:19
  can't
• 47:19
  make
• 47:19
  mistakes
• 47:20
  like
• 47:20
  that
• 47:20
  anymore.
• 47:20
  No,
• 47:21
  no.
• 47:21
  Everything
• 47:22
  is
• 47:22
  just
• 47:22
  got
• 47:23
  to
• 47:23
  be
• 47:23
  tightened
• 47:23
  up
• 47:23
  because
• 47:24
  of
• 47:24
  the
• 47:24
  monies
• 47:24
  that
• 47:24
  are
• 47:26
  generated.
• 47:27
  Absolute,
• 47:28
  absolute
• 47:28
  travesty.
• 47:29
  Probably
• 47:29
  the
• 47:29
  closest
• 47:30
  one
• 47:30
  was
• 47:30
  probably
• 47:32
  the
• 47:32
  island
• 47:32
  France
• 47:33
  game.
• 47:33
  Probably.
• 47:34
  Yeah.
• 47:35
  Apart
• 47:35
  from
• 47:35
  that.
• 47:35
  But.
• 47:36
  But
• 47:36
  anyway,
• 47:37
  obviously
• 47:37
  being
• 47:37
  Maradona,
• 47:38
  it
• 47:38
  was
• 47:38
  huge.
• 47:39
  And.
• 47:39
  And.
• 47:40
  But
• 47:41
  let's
• 47:41
  go
• 47:42
  back
• 47:42
  to
• 47:42
  the
• 47:42
  positive
• 47:42
  for
• 47:43
  that.
• 47:43
  What
• 47:43
  an
• 47:43
  honor
• 47:44
  for
• 47:44
  you
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  play
• 47:45
  in
• 47:45
  an
• 47:45
  England
• 47:45
  World
• 47:45
  cup
• 47:46
  quarterfinal.
• 47:49
  Yep.
• 47:50
  The
• 47:50
  result
• 47:50
  went
• 47:50
  against
• 47:50
  us.
• 47:51
  Most
• 47:51
  of
• 47:51
  them
• 47:51
  do,
• 47:52
  unfortunately.
• 47:52
  But
• 47:53
  for
• 47:53
  yourself,
• 47:54
  that
• 47:54
  was
• 47:54
  a
• 47:55
  great
• 47:55
  honor.
• 47:55
  Well,
• 47:56
  my
• 47:57
  country
• 47:58
  means
• 47:58
  everything.
• 47:59
  Yeah,
• 47:59
  I
• 48:00
  know
• 48:00
  it
• 48:00
  doesn't.
• 48:00
  I
• 48:01
  know
• 48:01
  that.
• 48:01
  You.
• 48:02
  You.
• 48:02
  Yeah.
• 48:03
  You
• 48:03
  are
• 48:03
  England
• 48:04
  through
• 48:04
  and
• 48:04
  through,
• 48:04
  mate.
• 48:05
  I
• 48:05
  know
• 48:05
  that.
• 48:05
  Absolutely.
• 48:07
  And
• 48:07
  people
• 48:07
  here
• 48:08
  in
• 48:08
  the
• 48:08
  Caribbean
• 48:08
  know
• 48:09
  that.
• 48:09
  Don't.
• 48:09
  Don't
• 48:10
  make
• 48:11
  no
• 48:11
  mistake
• 48:11
  about
• 48:12
  that.
• 48:12
  Half
• 48:13
  of
• 48:13
  me.
• 48:13
  Half
• 48:14
  of
• 48:14
  me.
• 48:14
  T
• 48:14
  shirts.
• 48:14
  Gary.
• 48:15
  I've
• 48:15
  got
• 48:15
  a
• 48:15
  Union
• 48:15
  Jack
• 48:16
  on
• 48:16
  there
• 48:16
  somewhere.
• 48:17
  That's
• 48:18
  all
• 48:18
  right.
• 48:18
  George's
• 48:19
  Cross.
• 48:20
  So,
• 48:21
  you
• 48:21
  know,
• 48:21
  I'm
• 48:21
  a
• 48:21
  big
• 48:22
  believer
• 48:22
  in
• 48:23
  the
• 48:23
  English.
• 48:23
  We've
• 48:24
  done
• 48:24
  some
• 48:24
  wonderful
• 48:25
  things
• 48:25
  across
• 48:25
  the
• 48:26
  world.
• 48:27
  Most
• 48:27
  of
• 48:27
  the
• 48:27
  best
• 48:28
  places
• 48:28
  to
• 48:28
  live
• 48:28
  across
• 48:29
  the
• 48:29
  world
• 48:29
  of
• 48:29
  what
• 48:29
  we
• 48:30
  put
• 48:30
  together
• 48:31
  initially.
• 48:33
  I
• 48:33
  love
• 48:34
  my
• 48:34
  country,
• 48:34
  I
• 48:34
  love
• 48:35
  my
• 48:35
  people.
• 48:36
  I
• 48:37
  think
• 48:37
  we
• 48:37
  are
• 48:37
  great
• 48:37
  people.
• 48:38
  I
• 48:39
  want
• 48:39
  England,
• 48:40
  UK
• 48:41
  to
• 48:41
  get
• 48:41
  back
• 48:41
  on
• 48:41
  track.
• 48:42
  We
• 48:42
  need
• 48:43
  a
• 48:43
  bit
• 48:43
  of
• 48:43
  good
• 48:43
  leadership
• 48:44
  at
• 48:44
  the
• 48:44
  top
• 48:45
  to.
• 48:46
  To
• 48:46
  get
• 48:46
  us
• 48:46
  back
• 48:46
  on
• 48:47
  track
• 48:47
  because
• 48:48
  the
• 48:48
  world
• 48:49
  was
• 48:49
  in
• 48:49
  a
• 48:49
  very
• 48:49
  delicate
• 48:50
  position.
• 48:50
  I
• 48:51
  thought
• 48:52
  lots
• 48:52
  of
• 48:52
  things
• 48:53
  going
• 48:53
  on
• 48:53
  that
• 48:53
  you
• 48:53
  wouldn't
• 48:54
  want
• 48:54
  to
• 48:54
  be
• 48:54
  involved
• 48:54
  in
• 48:55
  and
• 48:55
  certainly
• 48:56
  anybody.
• 48:57
  I've
• 48:57
  got
• 48:57
  kids,
• 48:58
  I
• 48:58
  don't
• 48:58
  want
• 48:58
  them
• 48:58
  going
• 48:59
  through
• 48:59
  nastiness
• 49:00
  in
• 49:00
  the
• 49:00
  world.
• 49:00
  Yes,
• 49:01
  yes.
• 49:02
  And.
• 49:03
  And
• 49:03
  we,
• 49:04
  the
• 49:04
  English,
• 49:05
  need
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  stand
• 49:05
  up
• 49:05
  again
• 49:06
  and.
• 49:06
  And
• 49:07
  do
• 49:07
  our
• 49:07
  stuff.
• 49:08
  Yeah,
• 49:08
  we'll
• 49:09
  come
• 49:09
  back.
• 49:09
  We
• 49:09
  always
• 49:10
  do.
• 49:10
  You
• 49:10
  know
• 49:10
  that.
• 49:13
  Leaving,
• 49:14
  playing,
• 49:14
  getting
• 49:15
  into
• 49:15
  management.
• 49:16
  Yeah.
• 49:18
  Again,
• 49:19
  I
• 49:19
  think
• 49:19
  Terry
• 49:20
  was
• 49:20
  with
• 49:20
  you,
• 49:20
  Rosney,
• 49:21
  for.
• 49:21
  For
• 49:21
  a
• 49:22
  period
• 49:22
  of
• 49:22
  time.
• 49:22
  Terry
• 49:23
  Venables.
• 49:23
  So
• 49:24
  I
• 49:24
  was
• 49:24
  the.
• 49:25
  I
• 49:25
  went
• 49:25
  to
• 49:26
  Portsmouth.
• 49:27
  Yeah.
• 49:27
  Terry
• 49:28
  was
• 49:28
  involved
• 49:28
  with
• 49:29
  that.
• 49:29
  He
• 49:29
  got
• 49:29
  me
• 49:29
  involved
• 49:30
  with
• 49:30
  that.
• 49:31
  I
• 49:31
  was
• 49:32
  there
• 49:32
  for
• 49:32
  three
• 49:32
  years.
• 49:34
  I
• 49:34
  then
• 49:34
  went.
• 49:35
  When
• 49:36
  I
• 49:36
  was
• 49:36
  fired
• 49:36
  at
• 49:37
  Portsmouth
• 49:38
  after
• 49:38
  three
• 49:38
  years,
• 49:39
  I
• 49:39
  was
• 49:40
  then
• 49:40
  Terry's
• 49:41
  number
• 49:41
  two
• 49:41
  with
• 49:42
  Crystal
• 49:42
  Palace.
• 49:43
  Fantastic.
• 49:44
  And
• 49:44
  that
• 49:45
  was
• 49:45
  me,
• 49:45
  Terry,
• 49:46
  going
• 49:46
  back
• 49:46
  to
• 49:46
  our
• 49:47
  roots
• 49:47
  where
• 49:47
  we
• 49:48
  all
• 49:48
  started.
• 49:49
  And
• 49:49
  that
• 49:49
  was
• 49:49
  incredible.
• 49:52
  What
• 49:53
  a
• 49:53
  wonderful
• 49:53
  club.
• 49:54
  Crystal
• 49:54
  Palaces
• 49:57
  supporters.
• 49:58
  You
• 49:59
  Know,
• 49:59
  not
• 50:00
  seen
• 50:01
  nearly
• 50:02
  as
• 50:02
  big
• 50:02
  as
• 50:02
  Chelsea
• 50:03
  and
• 50:03
  Arsenal
• 50:04
  and
• 50:04
  spurs
• 50:05
  maybe,
• 50:06
  but
• 50:07
  what
• 50:07
  a
• 50:08
  wonderful
• 50:09
  place
• 50:09
  in
• 50:09
  the
• 50:09
  world.
• 50:10
  I
• 50:10
  mean,
• 50:10
  I,
• 50:10
  I
• 50:11
  lived
• 50:11
  in
• 50:11
  Beckenham,
• 50:11
  Bromley,
• 50:12
  Bickley.
• 50:13
  Yeah.
• 50:14
  Even
• 50:14
  when
• 50:14
  I
• 50:14
  went
• 50:14
  to
• 50:15
  Queen's
• 50:15
  Park
• 50:15
  Rangers,
• 50:16
  I
• 50:16
  stayed
• 50:16
  there.
• 50:17
  I
• 50:17
  love
• 50:17
  the
• 50:17
  people.
• 50:17
  Oh,
• 50:18
  did
• 50:18
  you?
• 50:18
  Yeah.
• 50:19
  Oh,
• 50:19
  yeah.
• 50:20
  And
• 50:20
  even
• 50:21
  when
• 50:21
  I
• 50:21
  see
• 50:21
  you,
• 50:21
  Gary
• 50:22
  and
• 50:23
  String
• 50:23
  fellas,
• 50:24
  I'd
• 50:24
  have
• 50:24
  to
• 50:24
  make
• 50:25
  all
• 50:25
  my.
• 50:25
  My
• 50:26
  way
• 50:26
  on
• 50:26
  to
• 50:27
  Kent.
• 50:29
  Yeah,
• 50:30
  that.
• 50:30
  That
• 50:30
  night.
• 50:32
  Just
• 50:32
  tell
• 50:32
  the
• 50:33
  people
• 50:33
  here
• 50:33
  quickly
• 50:34
  that
• 50:34
  night
• 50:34
  you
• 50:34
  came
• 50:34
  in,
• 50:36
  you
• 50:36
  know,
• 50:36
  tell
• 50:37
  you've
• 50:37
  always
• 50:38
  been
• 50:38
  first
• 50:38
  class,
• 50:38
  you
• 50:39
  know,
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  so
• 50:39
  down
• 50:40
  to
• 50:40
  earth
• 50:40
  and
• 50:41
  proper,
• 50:41
  fella.
• 50:41
  That
• 50:42
  night
• 50:42
  I
• 50:42
  was
• 50:42
  working
• 50:43
  there,
• 50:43
  wasn't
• 50:43
  I,
• 50:43
  behind
• 50:43
  the
• 50:43
  bar.
• 50:44
  And
• 50:44
  you
• 50:44
  came
• 50:44
  in
• 50:44
  with
• 50:44
  Eric
• 50:45
  hall
• 50:46
  and,
• 50:47
  and,
• 50:47
  And
• 50:47
  Eric
• 50:48
  couldn't
• 50:48
  work
• 50:48
  out.
• 50:48
  He
• 50:49
  was.
• 50:49
  He
• 50:49
  couldn't
• 50:49
  work
• 50:49
  out.
• 50:50
  You
• 50:50
  and
• 50:50
  a
• 50:50
  couple
• 50:51
  of
• 50:51
  boys,
• 50:51
  like,
• 50:51
  knew
• 50:52
  me
• 50:52
  and
• 50:53
  he
• 50:53
  was
• 50:53
  like,
• 50:53
  he's
• 50:54
  monster.
• 50:54
  He's
• 50:54
  monster,
• 50:55
  monster.
• 50:55
  You
• 50:55
  know,
• 50:55
  he's
• 50:56
  like,
• 50:56
  Eric,
• 50:56
  Eric.
• 50:57
  You
• 50:57
  know,
• 50:57
  he
• 50:57
  was.
• 50:58
  And,
• 50:58
  and
• 50:59
  yeah,
• 50:59
  I
• 50:59
  remember
• 51:00
  that
• 51:00
  night.
• 51:00
  That
• 51:00
  was
• 51:01
  a
• 51:01
  lot.
• 51:01
  Yeah.
• 51:01
  Another
• 51:02
  night
• 51:02
  in
• 51:02
  the
• 51:02
  club.
• 51:03
  Spent
• 51:03
  way
• 51:03
  too
• 51:04
  much
• 51:04
  time
• 51:04
  in
• 51:04
  the
• 51:04
  clubs,
• 51:05
  didn't
• 51:05
  we?
• 51:06
  But
• 51:06
  it
• 51:07
  was
• 51:07
  good.
• 51:08
  Gary,
• 51:08
  you
• 51:09
  love
• 51:09
  this.
• 51:10
  Now
• 51:10
  in
• 51:11
  Trinidad,
• 51:12
  they've
• 51:13
  got
• 51:14
  what
• 51:14
  they
• 51:14
  call
• 51:14
  small
• 51:15
  goals,
• 51:15
  football,
• 51:16
  where
• 51:17
  every
• 51:17
  game
• 51:18
  played
• 51:18
  on
• 51:19
  all
• 51:19
  the
• 51:19
  different
• 51:19
  savannahs
• 51:20
  and
• 51:20
  playgrounds
• 51:21
  and
• 51:21
  all
• 51:22
  that,
• 51:22
  they
• 51:23
  would.
• 51:23
  You'd
• 51:24
  have
• 51:24
  a
• 51:24
  game
• 51:24
  that
• 51:24
  would
• 51:24
  be
• 51:25
  9,
• 51:26
  11,
• 51:27
  10,
• 51:28
  7,
• 51:29
  all
• 51:30
  you
• 51:30
  score,
• 51:31
  we
• 51:31
  score
• 51:32
  back
• 51:32
  and
• 51:32
  forth.
• 51:32
  Right,
• 51:32
  right,
• 51:33
  right,
• 51:33
  right.
• 51:34
  Now,
• 51:34
  I
• 51:34
  organized
• 51:35
  my
• 51:35
  team,
• 51:36
  structured
• 51:36
  it
• 51:36
  the
• 51:37
  same
• 51:37
  as
• 51:37
  Terry
• 51:37
  Venables
• 51:38
  had
• 51:38
  taught
• 51:38
  me
• 51:38
  all
• 51:39
  through
• 51:39
  my
• 51:39
  career.
• 51:41
  And
• 51:41
  we
• 51:41
  played
• 51:42
  six
• 51:42
  different
• 51:43
  regions,
• 51:44
  including
• 51:45
  Tobago.
• 51:45
  In
• 51:46
  Trinidad
• 51:46
  and
• 51:46
  Tobago,
• 51:48
  we
• 51:49
  scored
• 51:49
  37
• 51:50
  goals
• 51:51
  and,
• 51:51
  and
• 51:52
  conceded
• 51:53
  one
• 51:53
  goal.
• 51:55
  Now,
• 51:55
  they
• 51:56
  couldn't
• 51:56
  believe
• 51:56
  that.
• 51:57
  And
• 51:57
  this
• 51:58
  was
• 51:58
  all
• 51:58
  young
• 51:58
  men.
• 52:00
  I
• 52:00
  asked
• 52:00
  all
• 52:01
  of
• 52:01
  the
• 52:01
  opposition
• 52:02
  that
• 52:02
  we
• 52:02
  played
• 52:02
  all
• 52:03
  of
• 52:03
  the
• 52:03
  other
• 52:03
  regions
• 52:05
  from
• 52:05
  17
• 52:06
  to
• 52:06
  23.
• 52:07
  I
• 52:07
  want
• 52:07
  to
• 52:07
  see
• 52:07
  the
• 52:07
  best
• 52:07
  players
• 52:08
  you've
• 52:08
  got,
• 52:09
  and
• 52:09
  if
• 52:09
  any
• 52:09
  of
• 52:09
  them
• 52:10
  are
• 52:10
  better
• 52:10
  than
• 52:10
  what
• 52:10
  I've
• 52:11
  got,
• 52:11
  I'll
• 52:12
  be
• 52:12
  changing
• 52:12
  over.
• 52:13
  Yeah,
• 52:13
  yeah.
• 52:14
  Was
• 52:14
  the
• 52:14
  development,
• 52:15
  everything
• 52:15
  very
• 52:15
  competitive
• 52:18
  and
• 52:18
  we.
• 52:20
  We've
• 52:20
  done
• 52:20
  some
• 52:20
  great
• 52:21
  things,
• 52:21
  Gary,
• 52:22
  but
• 52:23
  we're,
• 52:25
  they
• 52:25
  say,
• 52:25
  a
• 52:25
  third
• 52:26
  world
• 52:26
  Trinidad.
• 52:27
  No,
• 52:27
  I
• 52:27
  don't
• 52:28
  agree
• 52:28
  with
• 52:28
  that.
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  just
• 52:29
  think
• 52:29
  at
• 52:30
  times
• 52:30
  you
• 52:30
  let
• 52:30
  the
• 52:30
  wrong
• 52:31
  people
• 52:32
  at
• 52:32
  the
• 52:32
  top.
• 52:33
  And,
• 52:33
  and
• 52:33
  where
• 52:34
  we
• 52:34
  are
• 52:34
  now,
• 52:35
  we've
• 52:35
  got
• 52:35
  people
• 52:36
  that
• 52:36
  have
• 52:36
  never
• 52:36
  played
• 52:37
  the
• 52:37
  sport,
• 52:37
  don't
• 52:38
  know
• 52:38
  the
• 52:38
  business
• 52:38
  of
• 52:39
  the
• 52:39
  sport,
• 52:40
  but
• 52:40
  they're
• 52:41
  running
• 52:41
  the
• 52:41
  sport,
• 52:42
  so
• 52:43
  the
• 52:43
  sport's
• 52:43
  going
• 52:43
  downhill
• 52:44
  and
• 52:44
  they
• 52:45
  can't
• 52:45
  understand
• 52:46
  why.
• 52:47
  And,
• 52:47
  and
• 52:47
  they
• 52:48
  don't
• 52:48
  want
• 52:48
  to
• 52:48
  speak
• 52:48
  to
• 52:49
  people
• 52:49
  like
• 52:49
  me
• 52:50
  that
• 52:50
  have
• 52:50
  had
• 52:50
  a
• 52:50
  big
• 52:51
  career
• 52:51
  in
• 52:51
  the
• 52:51
  game
• 52:52
  and
• 52:52
  seen
• 52:52
  how
• 52:53
  things
• 52:53
  go
• 52:53
  up
• 52:53
  and
• 52:53
  down.
• 52:55
  But
• 52:56
  more
• 52:56
  importantly,
• 52:57
  Gary,
• 52:58
  they're
• 52:59
  missing
• 52:59
  out.
• 52:59
  That
• 53:01
  we've
• 53:01
  got
• 53:01
  some
• 53:01
  amazing
• 53:02
  talent
• 53:03
  on
• 53:03
  the
• 53:03
  ground
• 53:03
  here
• 53:03
  in
• 53:03
  Trinidad
• 53:04
  and
• 53:04
  Tobago
• 53:05
  and
• 53:05
  nobody's
• 53:06
  seeing
• 53:06
  it.
• 53:08
  They're
• 53:08
  not
• 53:08
  seeing
• 53:08
  it.
• 53:09
  And
• 53:09
  that
• 53:09
  I've
• 53:09
  got
• 53:10
  197
• 53:12
  kids
• 53:12
  from
• 53:12
  Trinidad,
• 53:13
  professional
• 53:15
  contracts
• 53:15
  on
• 53:16
  the
• 53:16
  outside.
• 53:17
  I've
• 53:17
  got
• 53:18
  97
• 53:18
  kids
• 53:22
  gone
• 53:22
  to
• 53:22
  the
• 53:22
  United
• 53:23
  States
• 53:23
  for
• 53:24
  scholarships,
• 53:25
  more
• 53:26
  than
• 53:26
  anybody
• 53:26
  else
• 53:26
  in
• 53:26
  this
• 53:27
  country.
• 53:28
  So
• 53:28
  when
• 53:28
  these
• 53:28
  kids
• 53:29
  come
• 53:29
  back,
• 53:29
  they
• 53:30
  come
• 53:30
  to
• 53:30
  Fennec.
• 53:31
  Yeah,
• 53:32
  coach,
• 53:32
  man,
• 53:33
  give
• 53:33
  me
• 53:33
  a
• 53:33
  hook
• 53:34
  up
• 53:34
  and
• 53:34
  nice
• 53:34
  up
• 53:35
  and
• 53:35
  all
• 53:35
  that.
• 53:35
  Thanks
• 53:36
  for
• 53:36
  helping
• 53:36
  me
• 53:36
  out,
• 53:36
  actually.
• 53:37
  And
• 53:37
  I
• 53:37
  always
• 53:37
  direct
• 53:38
  them,
• 53:38
  give
• 53:38
  them,
• 53:39
  you
• 53:39
  know,
• 53:39
  the
• 53:40
  value
• 53:40
  of
• 53:40
  my
• 53:41
  experience
• 53:41
  over
• 53:41
  the
• 53:42
  years
• 53:42
  if
• 53:42
  they
• 53:42
  need
• 53:42
  it.
• 53:43
  But
• 53:45
  it.
• 53:45
  It's
• 53:45
  got
• 53:46
  to
• 53:46
  be.
• 53:46
  And
• 53:46
  I
• 53:46
  think
• 53:46
  this
• 53:47
  is
• 53:47
  where
• 53:47
  the
• 53:47
  UK
• 53:47
  is
• 53:48
  miles
• 53:48
  ahead.
• 53:49
  It's
• 53:50
  about
• 53:50
  the
• 53:50
  kids.
• 53:50
  It's
• 53:51
  not
• 53:51
  about
• 53:51
  us
• 53:51
  anymore.
• 53:52
  It's
• 53:52
  about
• 53:52
  what
• 53:53
  we
• 53:53
  can
• 53:53
  do
• 53:53
  and
• 53:53
  help
• 53:53
  the
• 53:54
  kids
• 53:54
  and
• 53:54
  bring
• 53:54
  them
• 53:55
  forward
• 53:55
  quicker.
• 53:57
  Yeah,
• 53:57
  And.
• 53:58
  And
• 53:58
  we've
• 53:58
  got
• 53:58
  some
• 53:59
  amazing
• 53:59
  talent.
• 54:00
  And
• 54:01
  I'm
• 54:01
  hoping
• 54:02
  shortly
• 54:02
  I
• 54:02
  might
• 54:02
  be
• 54:03
  involved
• 54:03
  again,
• 54:03
  Gary.
• 54:04
  Good.
• 54:05
  I'll
• 54:05
  keep
• 54:05
  you
• 54:06
  up
• 54:06
  to
• 54:06
  speed
• 54:06
  with
• 54:06
  that
• 54:06
  one,
• 54:07
  because
• 54:07
  people
• 54:08
  are
• 54:08
  shouting
• 54:08
  out,
• 54:09
  why
• 54:09
  haven't
• 54:09
  we
• 54:10
  got
• 54:10
  Fennec
• 54:10
  involved?
• 54:11
  Yeah.
• 54:11
  Because
• 54:12
  of
• 54:12
  all
• 54:12
  the
• 54:12
  good
• 54:12
  things
• 54:13
  he's
• 54:13
  done
• 54:13
  for
• 54:13
  the
• 54:13
  kids
• 54:14
  of
• 54:14
  this
• 54:14
  country.
• 54:15
  Well,
• 54:15
  I.
• 54:15
  I
• 54:16
  was
• 54:16
  about
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  say.
• 54:16
  I
• 54:16
  mean,
• 54:17
  it.
• 54:17
  It's
• 54:17
  crazy.
• 54:18
  I
• 54:18
  mean,
• 54:18
  who's.
• 54:19
  Who's
• 54:20
  hanging
• 54:20
  out
• 54:20
  in
• 54:20
  Trinidad
• 54:21
  with
• 54:21
  your
• 54:22
  experience?
• 54:22
  But
• 54:23
  what
• 54:23
  I
• 54:23
  love
• 54:24
  about
• 54:25
  you
• 54:25
  there
• 54:25
  in
• 54:25
  Trinidad,
• 54:26
  Terry,
• 54:26
  is
• 54:26
  that
• 54:27
  you're
• 54:27
  very
• 54:27
  outspoken.
• 54:28
  You're
• 54:28
  always
• 54:29
  talking
• 54:29
  about
• 54:29
  it
• 54:30
  on
• 54:30
  social,
• 54:30
  you're
• 54:30
  always
• 54:31
  saying
• 54:31
  about
• 54:31
  the
• 54:31
  kids,
• 54:32
  you're
• 54:32
  always
• 54:32
  saying
• 54:32
  that
• 54:33
  the
• 54:34
  corruption
• 54:34
  has
• 54:34
  made
• 54:35
  it
• 54:35
  very
• 54:35
  difficult
• 54:35
  for
• 54:36
  you.
• 54:36
  And.
• 54:36
  And
• 54:37
  I
• 54:37
  love
• 54:37
  that,
• 54:38
  you
• 54:38
  know,
• 54:38
  you're
• 54:38
  not
• 54:38
  afraid
• 54:39
  to
• 54:39
  say
• 54:39
  what's
• 54:40
  on
• 54:40
  your
• 54:40
  mind
• 54:40
  and.
• 54:41
  And
• 54:41
  it's
• 54:41
  coming
• 54:42
  from
• 54:42
  a
• 54:42
  good
• 54:42
  place,
• 54:43
  right?
• 54:43
  I
• 54:43
  mean,
• 54:44
  you
• 54:44
  got
• 54:45
  a.
• 54:46
  Yeah,
• 54:46
  yeah.
• 54:46
  You've
• 54:47
  had
• 54:47
  a
• 54:47
  glittering
• 54:47
  career,
• 54:48
  right?
• 54:49
  So
• 54:50
  all
• 54:50
  you
• 54:50
  can
• 54:50
  do
• 54:51
  is
• 54:51
  help
• 54:51
  them.
• 54:52
  Right?
• 54:52
  There's
• 54:53
  nobody
• 54:53
  sitting
• 54:53
  around
• 54:54
  that's
• 54:54
  got
• 54:54
  your
• 54:54
  experience,
• 54:56
  not
• 54:57
  in
• 54:57
  domestic
• 54:57
  football
• 54:58
  or
• 54:58
  in
• 54:58
  international
• 54:59
  football.
• 55:00
  So
• 55:01
  why
• 55:01
  they
• 55:01
  don't.
• 55:02
  That
• 55:03
  makes
• 55:03
  me
• 55:03
  very
• 55:03
  suspicious
• 55:04
  why
• 55:04
  they
• 55:04
  do
• 55:05
  not
• 55:05
  want
• 55:05
  your
• 55:06
  help.
• 55:06
  I
• 55:06
  guess
• 55:06
  there's
• 55:07
  too
• 55:07
  many
• 55:07
  people
• 55:07
  there
• 55:08
  looking
• 55:08
  after
• 55:08
  themselves,
• 55:09
  I
• 55:09
  would
• 55:09
  imagine.
• 55:12
  Well,
• 55:12
  mate,
• 55:13
  we've
• 55:14
  come
• 55:14
  full
• 55:14
  circle.
• 55:15
  It's
• 55:15
  been
• 55:15
  a
• 55:15
  fabulous
• 55:16
  chat.
• 55:17
  Two
• 55:17
  quick
• 55:17
  questions
• 55:18
  I'm
• 55:18
  going
• 55:18
  to
• 55:18
  ask
• 55:18
  you.
• 55:20
  Tottenham,
• 55:20
  do
• 55:21
  they
• 55:21
  stay
• 55:21
  up
• 55:21
  or
• 55:21
  do
• 55:21
  they.
• 55:22
  Or
• 55:22
  they.
• 55:22
  Or
• 55:22
  do
• 55:22
  they
• 55:22
  drop
• 55:23
  this
• 55:23
  year?
• 55:23
  I'm
• 55:23
  finding
• 55:24
  it
• 55:24
  difficult
• 55:24
  to
• 55:24
  see
• 55:24
  them
• 55:25
  stopping
• 55:25
  up,
• 55:25
  Gary.
• 55:25
  I
• 55:26
  want
• 55:26
  them
• 55:26
  to
• 55:26
  stop
• 55:26
  up,
• 55:26
  obviously,
• 55:27
  of
• 55:27
  course.
• 55:28
  But
• 55:30
  when
• 55:30
  you
• 55:30
  look
• 55:31
  the
• 55:31
  games
• 55:31
  that
• 55:31
  they've
• 55:32
  got
• 55:32
  remaining
• 55:33
  and
• 55:33
  I
• 55:33
  look
• 55:33
  at
• 55:34
  West
• 55:34
  Ham,
• 55:34
  what
• 55:34
  games
• 55:35
  they've
• 55:35
  got
• 55:35
  remaining.
• 55:36
  I
• 55:36
  think
• 55:36
  it's
• 55:36
  either
• 55:36
  going
• 55:36
  to
• 55:37
  be
• 55:37
  Tottenham
• 55:37
  or
• 55:37
  West
• 55:37
  Ham.
• 55:38
  Yes.
• 55:39
  Yeah,
• 55:40
  West
• 55:40
  Ham
• 55:40
  and
• 55:40
  West
• 55:41
  Ham
• 55:41
  got
• 55:41
  the
• 55:41
  momentum,
• 55:42
  right?
• 55:43
  Yeah,
• 55:43
  yeah.
• 55:44
  I
• 55:44
  mean,
• 55:44
  yeah,
• 55:44
  they
• 55:45
  need
• 55:45
  to
• 55:45
  result
• 55:45
  at
• 55:46
  the
• 55:46
  weekend,
• 55:46
  but
• 55:46
  West
• 55:46
  Ham,
• 55:47
  I
• 55:47
  think
• 55:48
  I
• 55:48
  can't
• 55:49
  see
• 55:49
  Tottenham
• 55:49
  getting
• 55:49
  anything
• 55:50
  at
• 55:50
  Everton.
• 55:51
  And
• 55:52
  yeah,
• 55:53
  I
• 55:53
  think,
• 55:54
  yeah,
• 55:54
  I
• 55:54
  think
• 55:54
  they
• 55:54
  may
• 55:55
  drop
• 55:55
  this
• 55:55
  year,
• 55:55
  which.
• 55:57
  Anyway,
• 55:58
  talking
• 55:58
  about
• 55:58
  relegation
• 55:59
  just
• 55:59
  quickly
• 56:00
  and
• 56:00
  they
• 56:00
  talk
• 56:00
  about
• 56:01
  big
• 56:01
  clubs,
• 56:02
  people
• 56:02
  always
• 56:02
  forget,
• 56:03
  and
• 56:03
  this
• 56:03
  goes
• 56:04
  back
• 56:04
  to
• 56:04
  Premier
• 56:05
  League
• 56:06
  overtaking
• 56:06
  everything
• 56:07
  than
• 56:08
  the
• 56:08
  people
• 56:08
  forget
• 56:09
  that
• 56:09
  Man
• 56:09
  United
• 56:10
  went
• 56:10
  down
• 56:10
  in
• 56:10
  1972.
• 56:12
  I
• 56:12
  think
• 56:12
  it
• 56:12
  was
• 56:13
  72
• 56:13
  with
• 56:13
  Franco
• 56:14
  Farrell.
• 56:14
  People,
• 56:15
  you
• 56:15
  know,
• 56:15
  people,
• 56:15
  oh,
• 56:15
  they're
• 56:16
  a
• 56:16
  big
• 56:16
  club.
• 56:16
  They
• 56:16
  won't
• 56:17
  go
• 56:17
  down.
• 56:17
  Well,
• 56:17
  Man
• 56:17
  United
• 56:18
  went
• 56:18
  down
• 56:18
  and
• 56:19
  if
• 56:19
  Man
• 56:19
  United
• 56:19
  can
• 56:19
  go
• 56:20
  down,
• 56:20
  anyone
• 56:21
  can
• 56:21
  go
• 56:21
  down.
• 56:22
  Gary,
• 56:22
  can
• 56:23
  I
• 56:23
  just
• 56:23
  see
• 56:23
  her?
• 56:24
  And
• 56:24
  this
• 56:24
  is
• 56:24
  me
• 56:25
  from
• 56:25
  Trinidad.
• 56:26
  We've
• 56:27
  got
• 56:27
  Champions
• 56:27
  League
• 56:28
  games
• 56:29
  coming
• 56:29
  up
• 56:29
  tomorrow,
• 56:30
  Tuesday
• 56:30
  and
• 56:30
  Wednesday.
• 56:31
  PSG
• 56:32
  against
• 56:33
  Bayern
• 56:33
  Munich.
• 56:34
  Fantastic
• 56:34
  game.
• 56:34
  That
• 56:35
  will
• 56:35
  be.
• 56:36
  Arsenal
• 56:36
  have
• 56:36
  then
• 56:36
  got
• 56:38
  Athletico
• 56:39
  and
• 56:39
  the
• 56:39
  next
• 56:40
  one.
• 56:42
  The
• 56:42
  game
• 56:42
  is
• 56:43
  a
• 56:43
  change
• 56:43
  in
• 56:43
  place.
• 56:45
  Everything
• 56:46
  is
• 56:46
  changing
• 56:46
  in
• 56:47
  the
• 56:47
  game
• 56:47
  of
• 56:47
  football
• 56:47
  today
• 56:48
  that
• 56:48
  we
• 56:48
  see.
• 56:50
  And
• 56:50
  the
• 56:50
  management
• 56:51
  of
• 56:52
  these
• 56:52
  football
• 56:52
  clubs.
• 56:53
  We've
• 56:53
  only
• 56:53
  got
• 56:53
  to
• 56:54
  look
• 56:54
  at
• 56:54
  Chelsea,
• 56:54
  which
• 56:54
  you'll
• 56:55
  be
• 56:55
  well
• 56:56
  aware
• 56:56
  of
• 56:57
  the
• 56:57
  number
• 56:58
  of
• 56:58
  players
• 56:58
  that
• 56:58
  they've
• 56:59
  got
• 57:00
  loaned
• 57:00
  out
• 57:01
  across
• 57:01
  the
• 57:02
  uk,
• 57:02
  across
• 57:02
  Europe,
• 57:03
  all
• 57:03
  over
• 57:03
  the
• 57:04
  place,
• 57:04
  earning
• 57:04
  a.
• 57:05
  For
• 57:05
  these
• 57:06
  new
• 57:07
  owners
• 57:07
  of
• 57:07
  football
• 57:08
  clubs
• 57:08
  that
• 57:08
  are
• 57:08
  coming
• 57:08
  in.
• 57:09
  They
• 57:09
  don't
• 57:10
  know
• 57:10
  the
• 57:10
  game
• 57:10
  itself.
• 57:11
  They
• 57:11
  don't
• 57:11
  understand
• 57:12
  the
• 57:13
  passion
• 57:13
  and
• 57:13
  pride.
• 57:14
  We
• 57:15
  as
• 57:15
  players,
• 57:16
  we
• 57:16
  as
• 57:16
  fans,
• 57:17
  we.
• 57:17
  They
• 57:18
  don't
• 57:18
  understand
• 57:19
  what
• 57:19
  it's
• 57:19
  all
• 57:19
  about.
• 57:20
  Now,
• 57:21
  that
• 57:21
  goes
• 57:21
  back
• 57:22
  to
• 57:22
  Alan
• 57:22
  Sugar
• 57:23
  and
• 57:24
  Terry
• 57:24
  Venables.
• 57:25
  Yeah,
• 57:26
  yeah.
• 57:26
  And
• 57:27
  the
• 57:27
  fans
• 57:27
  have
• 57:27
  got
• 57:28
  to
• 57:28
  realize
• 57:28
  this.
• 57:29
  These
• 57:29
  people
• 57:30
  up
• 57:30
  top,
• 57:30
  yes,
• 57:31
  they
• 57:31
  buy
• 57:31
  a
• 57:32
  big
• 57:32
  football
• 57:32
  club
• 57:32
  that
• 57:33
  we
• 57:33
  all
• 57:33
  support,
• 57:35
  but
• 57:35
  they're
• 57:36
  in
• 57:36
  it
• 57:36
  for
• 57:36
  the
• 57:36
  money.
• 57:37
  But
• 57:37
  you've
• 57:38
  just
• 57:38
  touched
• 57:38
  quickly
• 57:38
  there
• 57:38
  on
• 57:39
  passion,
• 57:39
  so
• 57:39
  you've
• 57:40
  touched
• 57:40
  there
• 57:40
  on.
• 57:40
  On
• 57:41
  passion
• 57:41
  and
• 57:41
  knowing
• 57:41
  the
• 57:41
  division
• 57:42
  and
• 57:42
  knowing
• 57:42
  the
• 57:43
  supporters
• 57:43
  and
• 57:43
  being
• 57:43
  attached
• 57:44
  to
• 57:44
  the
• 57:44
  supporters.
• 57:45
  So
• 57:45
  for
• 57:45
  me,
• 57:46
  a
• 57:46
  long,
• 57:46
  long
• 57:46
  time
• 57:47
  ago,
• 57:48
  the
• 57:48
  supporters
• 57:49
  became.
• 57:49
  There
• 57:49
  was
• 57:49
  a.
• 57:49
  There
• 57:50
  was
• 57:50
  a
• 57:50
  detachment
• 57:51
  between
• 57:51
  the
• 57:51
  players
• 57:51
  and
• 57:52
  the
• 57:52
  supporters.
• 57:52
  Whereas
• 57:52
  when
• 57:53
  you
• 57:53
  was
• 57:53
  playing
• 57:53
  at
• 57:53
  palace,
• 57:53
  for
• 57:54
  instance,
• 57:54
  I
• 57:54
  think
• 57:55
  one
• 57:55
  of
• 57:55
  the
• 57:55
  reasons,
• 57:56
  I
• 57:56
  think,
• 57:56
  is
• 57:56
  the
• 57:56
  pay
• 57:57
  structure.
• 57:57
  But
• 57:57
  there
• 57:57
  seemed
• 57:58
  to
• 57:58
  be
• 57:58
  more
• 57:58
  of
• 57:58
  an
• 57:59
  affinity.
• 58:00
  But
• 58:00
  if
• 58:00
  we
• 58:00
  look
• 58:00
  at
• 58:01
  the
• 58:01
  greatest
• 58:02
  successful
• 58:03
  club
• 58:03
  in,
• 58:04
  in.
• 58:04
  In.
• 58:04
  In
• 58:05
  the
• 58:05
  last
• 58:06
  30
• 58:06
  years,
• 58:06
  Man
• 58:07
  United
• 58:07
  with
• 58:07
  Alex
• 58:08
  Ferguson,
• 58:08
  people
• 58:09
  forget,
• 58:09
  and
• 58:09
  I'll
• 58:10
  probably
• 58:10
  get
• 58:10
  peltless
• 58:10
  for
• 58:10
  this,
• 58:11
  but
• 58:11
  people
• 58:11
  forget
• 58:12
  that
• 58:12
  the
• 58:13
  basis,
• 58:13
  the
• 58:13
  nuts
• 58:14
  and
• 58:14
  bolts
• 58:14
  of
• 58:14
  that
• 58:14
  team
• 58:15
  were
• 58:15
  British,
• 58:16
  right?
• 58:16
  So
• 58:16
  there
• 58:17
  was
• 58:17
  more
• 58:17
  of
• 58:17
  an
• 58:18
  understanding.
• 58:18
  There
• 58:18
  was
• 58:19
  more
• 58:19
  of
• 58:19
  an
• 58:19
  understanding
• 58:19
  of
• 58:20
  what
• 58:20
  was
• 58:20
  required
• 58:21
  There
• 58:21
  was
• 58:21
  more
• 58:21
  of
• 58:22
  an
• 58:22
  understanding
• 58:22
  of
• 58:23
  are
• 58:23
  you
• 58:23
  going
• 58:23
  to
• 58:24
  get
• 58:24
  through
• 58:24
  January
• 58:24
  and
• 58:24
  February
• 58:25
  and
• 58:25
  March.
• 58:26
  Right,
• 58:26
  that's
• 58:26
  just
• 58:27
  again
• 58:27
  my
• 58:27
  thought.
• 58:27
  Tell
• 58:28
  Gary.
• 58:29
  When
• 58:29
  you
• 58:29
  look
• 58:30
  at
• 58:30
  Sir
• 58:30
  Alex
• 58:31
  Ferguson
• 58:31
  went
• 58:32
  almost
• 58:33
  five
• 58:33
  years
• 58:33
  without
• 58:34
  winning
• 58:34
  anything
• 58:35
  but
• 58:36
  thank
• 58:36
  God
• 58:36
  the
• 58:37
  board
• 58:37
  stuck
• 58:37
  behind
• 58:38
  him
• 58:38
  because
• 58:38
  they
• 58:38
  saw
• 58:39
  the
• 58:39
  youth
• 58:39
  team
• 58:40
  he
• 58:40
  was
• 58:40
  bringing
• 58:41
  through
• 58:41
  and
• 58:42
  the
• 58:42
  young
• 58:42
  kids
• 58:43
  that
• 58:43
  were
• 58:43
  coming
• 58:43
  up
• 58:44
  into
• 58:44
  the
• 58:44
  first.
• 58:45
  When
• 58:45
  them
• 58:45
  kids
• 58:46
  got
• 58:46
  to
• 58:46
  the
• 58:47
  top
• 58:47
  level,
• 58:47
  my
• 58:48
  God
• 58:48
  Betam
• 58:49
  gigs
• 58:49
  score.
• 58:50
  You
• 58:51
  imagine
• 58:51
  all
• 58:51
  of
• 58:52
  these
• 58:52
  top
• 58:52
  quality
• 58:53
  players
• 58:53
  they
• 58:54
  then
• 58:54
  whitewash.
• 58:55
  What
• 58:55
  is
• 58:56
  the
• 58:56
  Premier
• 58:56
  League
• 58:57
  now?
• 58:57
  Sir
• 58:58
  Alex
• 58:58
  Ferguson
• 58:59
  behind
• 58:59
  the
• 58:59
  scene,
• 59:00
  very
• 59:00
  rarely
• 59:01
  done
• 59:01
  any
• 59:01
  of
• 59:01
  the
• 59:01
  coaching
• 59:02
  himself.
• 59:03
  He
• 59:03
  was
• 59:03
  a
• 59:04
  man
• 59:04
  manager,
• 59:05
  right.
• 59:05
  He
• 59:06
  would
• 59:06
  knock
• 59:06
  on
• 59:06
  your
• 59:07
  door
• 59:07
  eight,
• 59:07
  nine
• 59:08
  o'
• 59:08
  clock
• 59:08
  at
• 59:08
  night,
• 59:09
  come
• 59:09
  in
• 59:09
  and
• 59:10
  sit
• 59:10
  down,
• 59:10
  have
• 59:10
  a
• 59:10
  cup
• 59:10
  of
• 59:11
  tea
• 59:11
  with
• 59:11
  you
• 59:11
  and
• 59:11
  your
• 59:11
  misses
• 59:12
  your
• 59:12
  girlfriend
• 59:13
  and
• 59:13
  chat
• 59:14
  football
• 59:14
  with
• 59:14
  you.
• 59:15
  Right,
• 59:15
  See
• 59:15
  you.
• 59:16
  See
• 59:16
  you
• 59:16
  tomorrow
• 59:16
  at
• 59:16
  training.
• 59:17
  Bump
• 59:17
  and
• 59:17
  gone.
• 59:18
  That
• 59:18
  was
• 59:18
  a
• 59:18
  sort
• 59:19
  of
• 59:19
  manager.
• 59:19
  He
• 59:19
  was.
• 59:20
  That's
• 59:20
  brilliant
• 59:21
  though,
• 59:21
  right?
• 59:21
  Unbelievable.
• 59:22
  Now
• 59:23
  the
• 59:23
  World
• 59:23
  Cup's
• 59:24
  coming
• 59:24
  up.
• 59:24
  Like
• 59:24
  I
• 59:24
  said,
• 59:24
  we
• 59:24
  have
• 59:25
  40
• 59:25
  years
• 59:25
  from
• 59:26
  86
• 59:26
  to
• 59:26
  this
• 59:27
  one.
• 59:28
  Are
• 59:28
  we
• 59:29
  gonna
• 59:29
  do
• 59:29
  tell?
• 59:29
  I
• 59:29
  think
• 59:30
  we're
• 59:30
  gonna
• 59:30
  win
• 59:30
  it.
• 59:31
  Oh
• 59:31
  yeah,
• 59:32
  absolutely.
• 59:33
  If
• 59:33
  Harry
• 59:33
  Kane
• 59:34
  stays
• 59:34
  fit
• 59:34
  though
• 59:34
  I
• 59:35
  think
• 59:35
  Tom.
• 59:35
  Yeah,
• 59:36
  well,
• 59:36
  Harry's
• 59:37
  done
• 59:37
  a
• 59:37
  incredible
• 59:38
  job.
• 59:39
  He's
• 59:39
  a
• 59:39
  great
• 59:40
  finisher.
• 59:43
  Not
• 59:43
  the
• 59:43
  quickest
• 59:43
  center
• 59:44
  forward
• 59:44
  but
• 59:45
  he
• 59:45
  gets
• 59:45
  into
• 59:46
  them
• 59:46
  wonderful
• 59:46
  positions
• 59:47
  and
• 59:47
  I
• 59:47
  just
• 59:48
  think
• 59:48
  when
• 59:48
  you
• 59:48
  look
• 59:49
  at
• 59:50
  the.
• 59:50
  The
• 59:50
  one
• 59:50
  thing
• 59:50
  that
• 59:51
  I
• 59:51
  think
• 59:51
  Gary
• 59:51
  and
• 59:52
  apologies
• 59:52
  in
• 59:52
  advance,
• 59:55
  the
• 59:55
  one
• 59:55
  thing
• 59:56
  we
• 59:56
  have
• 59:56
  lacked
• 59:56
  over
• 59:57
  the
• 59:57
  last
• 59:57
  decades
• 59:59
  is
• 1:00:00
  a
• 1:00:01
  top
• 1:00:01
  manager.
• 1:00:02
  Why?
• 1:00:03
  Because
• 1:00:03
  we've
• 1:00:03
  kept
• 1:00:04
  on
• 1:00:04
  picking
• 1:00:05
  English
• 1:00:05
  managers
• 1:00:06
  that
• 1:00:06
  haven't
• 1:00:07
  stood
• 1:00:07
  up.
• 1:00:08
  And
• 1:00:09
  what
• 1:00:09
  annoys
• 1:00:10
  me
• 1:00:10
  here
• 1:00:10
  is
• 1:00:10
  we
• 1:00:10
  had
• 1:00:11
  top
• 1:00:11
  people
• 1:00:11
  like
• 1:00:11
  Brian
• 1:00:12
  Clough.
• 1:00:13
  They
• 1:00:14
  didn't
• 1:00:14
  give
• 1:00:14
  Terry
• 1:00:14
  Venables
• 1:00:15
  long
• 1:00:15
  enough
• 1:00:15
  in
• 1:00:16
  the
• 1:00:16
  hot
• 1:00:16
  seat.
• 1:00:16
  They
• 1:00:17
  should
• 1:00:17
  have
• 1:00:17
  kept
• 1:00:17
  him
• 1:00:17
  in
• 1:00:17
  there.
• 1:00:18
  Malcolm
• 1:00:18
  Allison
• 1:00:19
  never
• 1:00:19
  got
• 1:00:19
  a
• 1:00:19
  chance
• 1:00:20
  because
• 1:00:20
  again,
• 1:00:21
  the
• 1:00:21
  same
• 1:00:22
  F
• 1:00:23
  here
• 1:00:24
  looking
• 1:00:24
  after
• 1:00:24
  themselves.
• 1:00:25
  They
• 1:00:25
  don't
• 1:00:25
  want
• 1:00:26
  anybody
• 1:00:26
  in
• 1:00:26
  there
• 1:00:26
  that'll
• 1:00:27
  ruffle
• 1:00:27
  a
• 1:00:27
  few
• 1:00:27
  feathers.
• 1:00:28
  But
• 1:00:29
  we've
• 1:00:29
  now
• 1:00:29
  got
• 1:00:29
  Thomas
• 1:00:30
  Turtle,
• 1:00:31
  right?
• 1:00:31
  Not
• 1:00:31
  an
• 1:00:32
  Englishman,
• 1:00:32
  no,
• 1:00:32
  but
• 1:00:32
  he's
• 1:00:33
  roughing
• 1:00:33
  people
• 1:00:33
  up
• 1:00:34
  to
• 1:00:34
  get
• 1:00:34
  the
• 1:00:34
  books
• 1:00:35
  that
• 1:00:35
  he
• 1:00:35
  wants.
• 1:00:36
  And
• 1:00:36
  I
• 1:00:36
  look
• 1:00:37
  at
• 1:00:37
  our
• 1:00:37
  team,
• 1:00:38
  our
• 1:00:38
  players
• 1:00:39
  and
• 1:00:39
  I
• 1:00:40
  think
• 1:00:40
  we've
• 1:00:40
  got
• 1:00:41
  for
• 1:00:41
  every
• 1:00:41
  position
• 1:00:41
  now
• 1:00:42
  we're
• 1:00:42
  covered
• 1:00:43
  now
• 1:00:43
  we
• 1:00:44
  need
• 1:00:44
  that
• 1:00:44
  little
• 1:00:45
  bit
• 1:00:45
  of
• 1:00:45
  luck.
• 1:00:45
  Of
• 1:00:46
  course
• 1:00:46
  we
• 1:00:46
  do.
• 1:00:47
  I
• 1:00:48
  think
• 1:00:48
  this
• 1:00:48
  could
• 1:00:48
  be
• 1:00:49
  us.
• 1:00:49
  Our
• 1:00:50
  turn.
• 1:00:50
  England
• 1:00:51
  coming
• 1:00:51
  again.
• 1:00:52
  Come
• 1:00:52
  on,
• 1:00:53
  three.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah,
• 1:00:54
  mates.
• 1:00:55
  Love
• 1:00:55
  it,
• 1:00:55
  Tell,
• 1:00:56
  Love
• 1:00:56
  it.
• 1:00:56
  It's
• 1:00:57
  great
• 1:00:57
  to
• 1:00:57
  look
• 1:00:57
  across
• 1:00:58
  the
• 1:00:58
  screen
• 1:00:59
  to
• 1:00:59
  you
• 1:00:59
  and
• 1:00:59
  see
• 1:00:59
  you
• 1:01:00
  and
• 1:01:01
  hopefully
• 1:01:02
  we'll
• 1:01:02
  speak
• 1:01:02
  again
• 1:01:03
  soon.
• 1:01:03
  Thanks
• 1:01:03
  very
• 1:01:03
  much
• 1:01:03
  Tell.
• 1:01:04
  I
• 1:01:04
  really
• 1:01:04
  appreciate
• 1:01:04
  it,
• 1:01:05
  man.
• 1:01:05
  Harry,
• 1:01:05
  I
• 1:01:05
  can't
• 1:01:05
  believe
• 1:01:06
  it's
• 1:01:06
  been
• 1:01:06
  so
• 1:01:06
  long.
• 1:01:07
  I'm
• 1:01:07
  swearing
• 1:01:08
  you
• 1:01:08
  now
• 1:01:09
  next
• 1:01:09
  time.
• 1:01:10
  I'm
• 1:01:10
  coming
• 1:01:10
  to
• 1:01:10
  New
• 1:01:10
  York
• 1:01:11
  shortly.
• 1:01:12
  And
• 1:01:12
  when
• 1:01:12
  I'm
• 1:01:13
  me
• 1:01:13
  and
• 1:01:13
  you
• 1:01:13
  go
• 1:01:13
  and
• 1:01:14
  have
• 1:01:14
  a
• 1:01:14
  couple
• 1:01:14
  of
• 1:01:15
  beers
• 1:01:15
  to
• 1:01:15
  catch
• 1:01:15
  up.
• 1:01:16
  100,
• 1:01:17
  Terry.
• 1:01:18
  Thanks
• 1:01:18
  a
• 1:01:18
  lot,
• 1:01:18
  mate.
• 1:01:19
  Thank
• 1:01:19
  you.
• 1:01:19
  Speak
• 1:01:20
  to
• 1:01:20
  you
• 1:01:20
  soon.
• 1:01:20
  Cheers.
• 1:01:21
  Tell
• 1:01:21
  bye
• 1:01:21
  bye.
• 1:01:27
  Ra.