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UK Column News - 21st June 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. It's Friday, the twenty first of June twenty twenty four,
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just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News. I'm your host,
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Make Robinson joining me today. We have Ben Rubin, Debbie Evans and Cheryl
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Gringer. Welcome to the program. All so, Ben, there's shenanigans going
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on at Cambridge University and well a lot of disinformation. Absolutely, yeah,
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Well, the shenanigans going on all over the place, in particular in our
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elite academic institutions. We're going to talk about Cambridge University today. Before I
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get into it, I'm just going to set a little bit of context.
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I didn't go to Cambridge University. I did go to prep school in Cambridge.
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I went to one of the college schools, Saint John's College School.
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From seven to thirteen, I was a boarder there. It was quite a
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dilic, to be honest with you. It was a very privileged existence,
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you know, at a young age in a different era, we had the
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free reign of the town, all of the colleges, the quads, the
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backs, all of that history. We were able to go out into it.
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So I feel a very deep personal connection to the place. And although
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I was very young, I was left with an indelible understanding of the importance
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of its history, the university and its colleges. And I keep a keen
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interest in what's going on at the university, and I was interested to see
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this event pop up a few weeks ago, and I actually I became aware
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of of this organization a few weeks ago, and then some information came up
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this week about an upcoming event that I wanted to share with everybody's This is
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the Cambridge This Information Summit. The first edition took place in King's College in
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twenty twenty three. Now it describes itself as being focused on strategic disinformation,
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which is an accelerant for major societal problems such as climate change, extremism,
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polarization, fraud, and suppression of rights. Strategic disinformation is exploited across all
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information dissemination platforms, including social media, news media, financial and non financial
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reporting, other broadcast vehicles, and the purpose of the conference, as they
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articulate it, is to convene global thought leaders to discuss the societal impact of
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strategic disinformation, methods used to disseminate disinformation, the psychology of entrenched belief systems
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and the means to mitigate disinformation efficacy. And at the twenty twenty three event
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they had speakers from ey McKinsey, Rand Corporation, the World Health Organization,
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OFFCOM, the World Economic Forum, Full Fact, Google Meta, and really
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many of the key censorship players and frankly spreaders of this information that we've seen
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over the past few years. Now it's hosted by a gentleman called Professor Alan
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Jagerlinza, and I'll let him make a little introduction to the sinking behind the
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event. All right, I want to welcome everybody to Cambridge University, to
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King's College Hall and to the Cambridge Disinformation Summit. I'm Alan Jaglinzer. I'm
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the professor of Financial Accounting, the head of the Accounting faculty subject group,
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and the co director of the Cambridge Center for Financial Reporting and Accountability with the
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Cambridge Judge Business School. Many people have asked me why accounting professors, many
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of whom are in this room, are convening a global summit on disinformation.
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And what I try to communicate is that we are actually in an information science.
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Financial accounting is inherently information science and our field has deep experience creating and
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improving communication standards, accountability infrastructure that include audit and regulatory enforcement to mitigate societal
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harm from financially oriented disinformation, which we typically call fraud, and now more
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recently we're moving into greenwashing. I started thinking about this idea of a convention
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when years ago, actually not too long ago, my nephew died from pandemic
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related disinformation. Conversations with old friends and family members of mine turned into ad
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hominem attack anytime we got into any sort of discussion that countered their entrenched belief
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system. I've seen and continue to see sustained direct attacks on democratic institutions from
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politicians around the world who used to proudly support the same institutions and who had
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shifted to rhetoric and continue to use rhetoric that inspires things like extremist violence,
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and their rhetoric is easily falsifiable. So Professor jagerlindsa an accounting professor inside Cambridge
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Judge Business School, and he's taken it upon himself to convene this meeting and
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to place himself and accountancy at the center of the global debate about this information,
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which I think is a really quite striking thing for him to have done.
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If you understand this concept of leading beyond authority, I don't think that
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Professor Jacquelines has the authority to be leading a discussion about this information, particularly
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when he's inviting the kinds of people that we've already spoken about on the show.
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Now. The reason I'm bringing this up today is that earlier in the
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week, the Professor announced the first headline speakers for the twenty twenty five events.
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The first one was Nina Jankowitz, founder of American Sunlights and former Minister
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of Truth at the Department of Homeland Security. Also Yoel Roth, who was
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at the Twitter Trust and Safety Team and he was involved in the censorship of
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the Hunter Biden laptop. And finally Marianna Spring, our good friend Marianna from
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BBC Verify right now. My response to this was, as so, I
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said, this is laughable. You have three of the world's biggest spreaders of
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disinformation on your panel. Nina Jankowitz and Yol Roth both censored Hunter Biden's laptop
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in the run up to the twenty twenty US presidential election. Roth may well
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face a custodial center to some point in the future for his role on Twitter's
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Trust and Safety team, Marianna Spring is a raging mouthpiece for one of the
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world's most dishonest and manipulative propaganda machines aka to BBC. But at least we
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know what Cambridge University's position is on all of this, which, in hindsight
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may have been a little bit punchy, to be honest with you, But
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I stand by pretty much everything that I said there. Now the professor came
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back and essentially said that, mister Rubin, we welcome discussion about disagreements here,
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but not to ad hominem attacks. Ad hominem attack is a commonly deployed
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tactic by disinformation actors. I guess he's maybe accusing me of being a disinformation
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actor. Platforming speakers do not indicate endorsement. It simply opens discussion. So
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an ad hominem essentially refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character,
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motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument, rather
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than attacking the substance of the argument itself. That's not what I did,
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right, I called out actions that have been taken by the individuals. It's
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not an ad hominem attack. It's a really important point to make. I
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did, however, make quite a significant error in my statement, and I
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do need to issue in an apology, and it's an apology to Nina Jankowitz,
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and she very rightly pointed out what she said to me. You claim
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you have oscient skills, open source intelligence skills. I actually you can quantify
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your claim that I'm the world's biggest spread of this information. Can you tell
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me how I censored Hunter Biden's laptop when I was a private citizen during the
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twenty twenty election. I eagerly await, Well, I'm sure would be a
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very logical and fact based response. Now, Nina, as I said in
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my reply to you on LinkedIn, Maya Kulpa, you are actually quite right
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to point out that in my hasty response to the professor's post, I inaccurately
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stated that you centered the Hunter Biden laptop in the run up to the twenty
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twenty president and election. You were not in government at the time. You
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couldn't have centered the laptop. It's not possible. My apologies, Yeah,
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it's on me. I absolutely retract that part of my statement. Please accept
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my apologies. What I will say, though, is that the laptop was
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censored, and it was censored by people who subsequently went into the Biden administration,
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and you then took a job in that administration. And I think that
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that does bear a level of scruciny, right, And I'm not suggesting that
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we all need to be perfect, by the way, far from it.
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That's why I'm here and that's why I'm communicating this message to you. But
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we do have to take some accountability for the things that we're involved in when
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we're stepping out into the public sphere and talking about the issues that we're talking
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about. So who is Nina Jankowitz. Let me do you the service of
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giving you a bit of a better introduction than the one I made on LinkedIn.
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So Nina is the co founder, antief executive officer of this organization,
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the American Sunlight Project. In a world clouded by disinformation, they're on a
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mission to bring clarity, all right. So their work focuses in three areas.
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They expose deceptive information practices and the networks and money that drive them.
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They educate the public about the threats that we face and the effects of disinformation
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in society, and they engage policymakers to return to return through to our national
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discourse, all of which are actually very noble objectives. I just questioned the
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way, frankly that you're going about them. Nina. I've looked into your
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background. I've listened to a lot of your public statements, in particular recently
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this panel session that was part of an eight hour event called Vital Voices.
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We don't have time to share a video here, but I urge people to
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go and watch the session. And you describe quite a stressful period of time,
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to be honest with you, so when you took the job in the
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Biden administration, you're actually thirty four weeks pregnant and there was a whole tornado
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of things going on around you. It sounded incredibly stressful. And for the
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recogning, I'm sure you're a great mum. I'd imagine you're quite a lot
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of fun. Actually, And as I say, we're not here to cars
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stones at years. Isn't personal. But if you are going to step out
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on these issues and make big statements about what isn't true, we're dealing with
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truth here. This is fundamental to the way that society runs, and you're
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going to have to deal with people like me and I'm not going to tiptoe
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around these issues. And I'm also going to point out things like the fact
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that Vital Voices the forum that you okat recently is run by someone who works
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for the World Economic Forum. I'm also going to point out that the Responsible
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Ai summit that you spoke at at Whatsdon House earlier on this year is effectively
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controlled by Yad Hannahdeve, the Rothschild Foundation, the power behind the Israeli state.
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And it's not hateful for me to point these things out. It isn't
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violence, it's not harassment. This is fact based, robust public discourse,
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and I think that you need to learn how to engage in that, as
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we all do. Frankly, we need a better public discourse. So back
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to the disinformation summit. Who else was speaking? So we have this fella,
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yel Roth pictured here giving testimony to the House Oversight Committee for his role
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in the censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop, basically working hand in glove at
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Twitter with the FBI the CIA to violate First Amendment rights, free speech rights.
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He had a strip torn off him quite frankly by this guy, Clay
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Higgins. I'll play the video in extra because we don't have time to go
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through it all now. And then finally, let's just have a little look
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at Marianna Spring, who is the final person announced on the lineup. It's
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so excited about and people are now having to wage for a lot of information.
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Some people might say that it's selfish that you don't want the vaccine but
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could pass it on to someone else. What would be your response to someone
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saying My response to that is, I don't really trust the vaccine. Lots
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of things we're coming in, like this embryo fetus something or Paul, we're
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worried about, particularly the first generation above seventy five to eighty that are actually
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also in younger communities. Before this point, the vast majority are hesitant,
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are cautious. So I mean, it's not much comment to be passed on
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now. He was absolutely ludicrous. And these are the three people that Professor
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Jaguelinza is announced at his event, just very quickly, just to finish up
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on what's going on at Cambridge. So we just saw there actually Lord Willie
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of Woodford speaking to Marianna Spring at the end of that video. He has
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a prominent position now at Cambridge University, is the principal of Promerton College.
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He's also a trustee for the Gates Cambridge Trust. That's an organization that was
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set up in two thousand with a two hundred and ten million dollar donation from
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the Gates Foundation to be bought the university. He's also deeply involved with the
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Open Society's Foundation, which is George and Alex Sorros. You can see him
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here providing a personal thanks for those two. And finally, the event is
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going to be held at the disinformation event is going to be held at King's
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College, Cambridge. The new provost of King's College, Cambridges this woman Gillian
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Tett, who is also a long time editor and writer at the Financial Time.
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She's still the chair of the editorial board at the Financial Times while being
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in a position at King's College. Financial Times is owned by NICKI, which
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is a World Economic Forum partner, which means that World Economic Forum is controlling
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what's happening essentially here in Cambridge University. And actually this was the flag flying
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on the Financial Times is roof yesterday afternoon. So you tell me what you
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think is going on at the FT and at Cambridge University and elsewhere in the
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system. Okay, thank you, Ben. Now let's move on then to
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phaser and vaccines, and I want to welcome Cheryl Granger to the screen to
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the program. But before we do, just to put the UK column website
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on screen here because if we could do that, please Stephanie. Sorry,
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there we go, Yes, thank you, and so there we go.
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UK Situation Room Poser MADERNA Document Analyser. So Cheryl, just first of all,
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just remind everybody what that page is all about. Hi, Micah,
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Hello everybody. Yes, this is the Phisomaderna document analysis that basically now has
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ninety nine reports on it. We've been able to summarize those reports and there
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are links to the actual reports with the Daily Cloud, So if anybody wants
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to see more information on what I'm going to talk about in a moment,
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they can easily access this information. So if we go to report ninety five,
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Report ninety five is basically with ninety six talking about whether this is a
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vaccine or gene therapy. And what it makes comment of to start off with
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is the changed information in vaccine definition. So to start off with, they
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basically said that the vaccines produce immunity from disease and protect a person from disease.
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They've dropped the protection bit, which is the word that was used to
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license these vaccines in the UK, and the FDA has basically got the mRNA
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gene therapy product. It considers that it's gene therapy. It's said that gene
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therapies for humans set to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to
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alter the biological properties of living cells. And Maderna talked about the number and
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design of the clinical trials and pre clinical studies required for the approval of these
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types of medicines. Genetic medicines have not been established, so that's covered in
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ninety five. In report ninety six, it continues on looking at vaccine and
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gene therapies and it asked the question why was there wrong committee selected for the
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mRNA COVID nineteen shots. So the FDA has a responsibility over the health of
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the public, but it also has responsibility for the billions of pounds that are
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made from these products and those two use. Here we go with acronyms,
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the VRBPAC. How about that the Vaccine and Related Biological Product Advisory Committee assessed
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these products that they called vaccines rather than the one it should have gone to,
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which is the Cellular Tissue and Gene Therapy Advisory Committees. So the vaccine
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term was acceptable to more people. It's a non threatening concept and it's got
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widespread acceptance. But we've basically got these vaccines, which are really gene therapies
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actually being handled. We can ask the question then if the FDA is actually
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exhibiting wilful misconduct, and there's a definition of what that involves, and of
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course that could be equally thrown at the MHRA. The MHRA, by the
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way, has four expert committees on vaccines and then one on therapies. That
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doesn't seem to it seems to be sidelined from the MHR, and that's something
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we'll probably do some more work on. So the ninety seventh report that looked
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at obscuring my cardiitis safety Signals, and what happened here was that in spring
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twenty one, the FDA granted EUA for children to be given the vaccines above
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the age of twelve and by May twenty one. And he's a report that
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includes information with names, So there are three names mentioned here of people are
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involved in assessing safety signals. There's a Dr Thompson who was in charge of
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this and she noticed mycarditis, but nothing was done about it. All their
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signals are based on observed against expected value, so that's what they're seeing compared
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with what they expected to see, and if it's greater than one that ratio,
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then that is a signal. What they use for micarditis. The FDA
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used expected values from Sweden in two thousand and seven data. They didn't take
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into account any differences between sex and age and this particular signal. In April
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twenty one, we got the Israeli researchers talking about maucarditis and Dr Thompson didn't
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acknowledge this risk, but covered her back eventually by writing a paper in January
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twenty two. In Report ninety eight, again it goes back to vaccine against
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gene therapy, and it talks about gene therapy products have a greater potential risk
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because you get delayed adverse reactions, and examples of that would be the development
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of malignancies, impaired gene function, and prolonged exposure to proteins and autoimmune reactions.
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So the Report ninety eight is basically showing that they should be genetically modified,
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products should go through heavier testing, more rigorous testing, proof of potency,
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safety, instability. Their toxic testing should be more detailed. And then
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the final report looks at the CDC hiding desks and injuries. And this is
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by a guy called Albert Benavides who is a data analyst, and he talks
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about time displacement. So this one verse report of a thirty nine year old
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male with cerebral venus from bosis and he was injected. It says seven four
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hundred and five days before he got the onset in July twenty one. The
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outcome was also not recorded. And there are thousands of time displacements in THEIRS.
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There's two hundred and thirty nine with the wrong dates on them, and
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this seventy three, six hundred and seventy one with unknown dates going back to
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the nineteen hundreds, which is obviously errors that are put into the system reformatting.
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Obfusigation is his second thing he talks about, which is a cloaking technique.
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So for example, a lot have been described as multiple organ system involvement,
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so that means that a report is submitted. This is quite often no
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outcome except saying this permanent disability and that's not classified. And then you've got
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multi system illness cases that are siloed into a category called other. And in
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a moment, I'll talk to you about general disorders in our UK Yellow Card
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data. So we have some information now about the I suppose its links into
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ben The three common misinformation statements that I see constantly being used that I just
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want to clarify. The first one is where COVID vaccines have saved lives.
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Excuse me, thousands and millions of lives have been saved by these vaccines.
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This is a friend of mine, Alan is another engineer. He's a data
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analyst and he's taken a look at the information. So this is the government's
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own information that shows the recorded UK deaths with COVID in twenty twenty. So
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this is pre vaccines. Basically, that works out as ninety four hundred and
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seventy five have died with COVID by the end of twenty twenty. This has
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got to be against the risk of death from COVID at the start of the
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pandemic. At that time we said that the fatality rate was about zero point
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twenty five percent, and if you've got sixty seven million population, then you
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end up with one hundred and sixty seven thousand, five hundred at risk of
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death. We've then got UK people still at risk of death with COVID by
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January twenty one, and that gives us seventy seven thousand and a few still
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at risk. And then you can look at the total number of UK deaks
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with COVID all the way through to May twenty four, and that shows that
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two hundred and thirty two, one hundred and twelve had died with COVID since
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the start of as Allen calls it, the Corona panic. And then you
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can look at the number of UK deaths with COVID from January to May.
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From January twenty one to May twenty four, which is when the vaccines were
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given, there were no The number of deaths after the vaccine are shown in
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that bar. So finally, the number of people who died with COVID after
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vaccine rollout was more than the number of people still at risk, and that
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is sixty four thousand, six hundred and twelve. So you've got to ask
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did the vac's cause more cod big deaths and did it also increase COVID mortality.
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And then just quickly we've got a graph that shows the range of deaths
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and the categories that they fall into. We can show that, yes,
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we have a lot of information in the press about very extreme, rare conditions
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and that's what they always refer to an adverse reaction as but there are lots
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of things that very commonly have presented themselves that are not actually rare. They
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are abnormally common. And you can see the groups there, general disorders,
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nervous system disorders, cardiac disorders, respiratory disorders, infections and vascular disorders.
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Contains lots of side effects that are things that should have been investigated. They're
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definite signals and probably running out of time. But the other thing that is
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misinformation is the fact that they never investigate causality. And I've given you some
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links that will be in the notes that link to the proof of causality through
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the Bradford Hill criteria, which shows that there are definite links. And there's
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Dr Peter McCulloch has actually stated the Bradford Hill which is this set of criteria
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for causality. The tenets of causality have been fulfilled on a more probable than
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not basis. Upgrade that to a clear and convincing bracis basis. The vaccines
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have caused death. And that's what I want to leave you with the facts
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that are being misrepresented to us. Okay, Gerald, thank you very much
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for that, No doubt, we'll be talking a bit more about that in
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extra and Debbie, let's then welcome to the program, and let's talk a
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little bit more about anti microwheel resistance. Yes, good afternoon everyone. I
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am great to be here. Is antimicrobial resistance even real? Well, let
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me give you, let me paint you a little picture. So I told
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you about a high level meeting with United Nations which was going to be held
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in September twenty twenty four, so this is coming up very soon. I
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think we've got a slide of it there towards specific commitments and action, but
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also AMR is a bigger agenda, so we're also looking at children protecting children.
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So we have a UNICEF report now talking about antimicrobial resistant the urgent threat
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of drug resistance infections. A lot of people are talking about antimicrobial resistance in
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fact, but hey, don't take my word for it, because on the
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longest day of the year on Prince William's forty second birthday. Let's hear what
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Prince William has to say about AMR. We stand at a crystical juncture where
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the interconnections between drug resistance, climate change, and environmental degradation cannot be ignored.
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Rivers are polluted with antibiotics, and oceans of fei with microplastics containing resistant
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bacteria. Meanwhile, deforestation is playing havoc with ecosystems, facilitating the emergence of
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new infectious diseases. Unless we act now and together, the ripple effects of
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drug resistance will we felt across generations, jeopardizing the well being of our children
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and our grandchildren. So what are antimicrobials? So I've got a slide here
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that will show you that antimicrobials actually include antivirals, anti parasitics, antibiotics and
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anti fungals and all of those arrows that you see. That's how many sustainable
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goals AMR relates to. So you've got life beneath water, you've got sanitation,
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clean water. It's a big sustainable goal agenda. But what does this
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mean for each and every one of us? So courtesy of doctor Christian Van
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Tullikan, who's a celebrity television doctor on Behalf of the UK. Let's see
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what each and every one of us and our doctors are going to be asked
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to do. When was the last time you had an infection? It probably
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wasn't a great worry because you know, you can just get some antibiotics.
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But the problem is that antibiotics don't kill bacteria as well as they used to.
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The bacteria have become resistant. In fact, there are some bacteria which
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are now totally resistant to all antibiotics. This is one of the biggest threats
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to everyone on Earth, and the problems only going to get worse. Unless
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we act fast and together, we're going to enter an era where no antibiotics
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work. It will be like going back to the nineteen thirties. Infections that
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we now regard as trivial were often fatal. Complex surgery was impossible because of
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the risk of infection. Did you know cancer treatment destroys the immune system.
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Most patients need antibiotics to survive. Imagine no more heart, bowel, or
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bone operations, no more cancer treatment. This is where we're headed. But
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with three very simple steps we can all become antibiotic guardians. Step one,
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don't demand antibiotics from your doctor. We don't need them every time we're ill.
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In fact, although everyday infections may make you feel unwell, antibiotics make
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very little difference to colds, flus, and sore throats and coughs. So
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ask a pharmacist about over the counter remedies that can treat your symptoms. Step
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two. Take antibiotics exactly as they're prescribed. Never save them for use in
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the future, never give them to someone else. Step three. Spread the
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word. Tell your friends and family to use antibiotics properly. Send them this
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video. Antibiotics are some of our most precious medicines, and we're going to
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lose them unless we all become antibiotic guardians. So there you are. You
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going to be asked to become an antibiotic guardian. But what are the drivers?
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What do they say the drivers are of antimicrobia resistance? Well, there
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are many things, but humans, of course, we're a driver, Terrestrial
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and aquatic mammals, food and feed, water, sanitation, hygiene come onto
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that again in a bit. But so we're going to be antibiotic guardians,
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and what are each and every one of us is going to be asked to
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take Well, we're going to be asked to take a pledge. Let's have
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a listen to it. Just a couple of examples. I pledge to help
30:22
table anti micropo resistance just to protect ourselves, our animals and our environment.
30:30
I pledge to safeguard antimicrobials like antibiotic are using them responsibly for personal health and
30:37
for the health of fests environmental Because I want to make sure that antibiotics will
30:44
work when we need them most, I will advocate the responsible antibiotic use.
30:48
I believe everyone has the right to see the fishes food and it will help.
30:52
And the more we invest in sustainable agriculture, the faster we get achieve.
30:57
I support the alfagous stubbooks. I support like a page who stops reboots
31:03
I've promised or how will I go to I've promised to handle antibiotics with Kim.
31:12
So are you ready to make your pledge? But just to tie this
31:15
segment up in we always watch what's going on in Australia. What happens in
31:19
the Southern Hemisphere, happens in the Northern Hemisphere, and in Australia. We've
31:23
got parents queuing up and going to so many different pharmacies to try and get
31:29
medicines and antibiotics for children. We've also got a recent story in the mail
31:33
that's warning of shortages of antibiotics for hooping cough. But lucky for everyone,
31:40
there is a jab now. Just since this morning actually I have thanks to
31:45
doctor David Cartland who texts me to say that GPS in the NHS have been
31:52
asked now to scale back on antibiotics for children for pneumonia. Some shortages there
31:59
are pneumonia, who coff and other respiratory viruses. They're saying that GPS are
32:04
recommending alternative medications and PHIZA have now restricted a zithromycin antibiotic to everywhere except for
32:13
hospitals. And a zithromycin is also a targeted antibiotic for shigela, but we'll
32:17
come on to that. So antimicrobial resistance keep your eyes out, Okay,
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33:14
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33:45
so join us for that too. Now, on Wednesday's program, I was
33:50
talking about the EU legislation over end to end encryption and the mass surveillance of
33:57
people's chat and so on. That vote was supposed to take place on Wednesday
34:04
about whether to push forward with this program. But the aim was to try
34:07
to get this vote through before the new European Parliament sits, and unfortunately for
34:14
the Council of Europe that was not possible, and in fact it was Germany
34:19
and France that decided to vote against it. So let's just do a quick
34:22
translation of this. Germany votes against chat control in nets politic here, and
34:30
so that means that it couldn't go forward before the change of the presidency.
34:36
Now, of course, the European Union has three presidents, because if you're
34:38
an organization like that, of course you need three presidents. But the presidency
34:44
of the Council of Europe changes. It's currently Belgium. Our hosts are mainly
34:50
the president at the moment until the thirtieth of June twenty twenty four, and
34:53
the presidency passes to Hungary after that. Now Hungary, unfortunately is putting this
35:00
particular topic back on the agenda, and so it hasn't gone away despite the
35:05
defeat at this stage, it will come back and so people still need to
35:07
be paying attention now. In the meantime, of course, over the last
35:12
couple of weeks, we've been talking about the cyber attack, the ransomware attack
35:16
on the NHS, particularly the London hospitals, and well the people responsible for
35:22
that have now posted This graphic is from the BBC. They took an image
35:28
from the organization's dark website. Quite a lot of data has now several hundred
35:35
gigabytes of data has now been uploaded, including people's medical records, their names,
35:39
addresses, dates of birth, NHS numbers and so on. Descriptions of
35:44
the blood tests that they were taking. That's not been published because the NHS
35:47
didn't pay the ransom, and so that is now available now. The organization
35:55
King's College NHS that was responsible for this was post this on the nineteenth of
36:00
this month. The ransomware attack of pathology providers Novice is continuing to impact our
36:07
services. So this isn't just about the data that's been published. This is
36:10
also about the continuing impact on the NHS. That's happening. So the organization
36:15
behind this, sorry, we'll just mention the fact here before we mentioned the
36:20
organization behind this that is Killing. Sorry. The NHS Digital was tweeting this
36:24
out on May the ninth this year. Ransomware is a form of malicious software
36:29
that makes data or systems unusable until the victim makes a payment reduce the risk.
36:34
Well, they clearly weren't capable of reducing the risk within the NHS or
36:37
within NHS suppliers huge qualities of data going missing. So anyway, the ransomware
36:46
itself is something which is called agenda, and it's been created by an organization
36:52
called Killing, which is QI l I N which is allegedly Russian background.
36:58
But they run quite a business model because it's run on the basis of a
37:02
sort of affiliate scheme. So you can, I can, as an individual,
37:06
can go along to them and say, right, I want to attack
37:08
this particular NHS hospital. Can you create some software for me which targets that
37:14
that particular organization specifically, They will provide me with the software and then if
37:20
I managed to get paid off, I get to keep eighty five percent of
37:23
the bitcoin or whatever is sent to me. So it's quite an affiliate program.
37:28
It's a bit better than NordVPN if you're into this kind of thing.
37:30
But anyway, this doesn't just apply. It's not just one case. This
37:36
has been going on for quite some times. This is NHS Scotland from earlier
37:39
in the year. I think this is March the eleventh. So this was
37:43
on a ransomware website that NHS Scotland had had three terabytes three terabytes of people's
37:51
personal information published on the dark web, and they did in fact acknowledge this.
37:58
So this cyber attacks on NHS doun Freesing Galloway was the headline on the
38:02
NHS dub frees and Galloway website. And what it says here is that the
38:07
cyber criminals said they would publish stolen data unless they're unspecified demands were met.
38:13
On Monday, the sixth of May twenty four they carried out that threat,
38:15
publishing over three terabytes of data. So this is a very common thing.
38:22
Now, this is something that we've all got to be vigilant about because of
38:27
course this is all our personal data and therefore it could result in identity theft
38:31
and others. But in the meantime, Kasperski who is one of the companies
38:37
that has set itself up over the last couple of decades to try to fight
38:40
this type of attack and various other types of cyber attack, is now banned
38:45
in the United States. So this is the report from the US government.
38:51
To protect our nation, the Department of Commerce has issued a final determination prohibiting
38:55
Kasperski Lab Inc. And its affiliates, subsidiaries parent companies from engaging in transactions
39:01
involving the provision of certain cybersecurity and antivirus products and services to UK to US
39:07
persons. And I just find that really fascinating because they're alleging connections to the
39:14
Russian military and therefore it is considered a risk. Well, this is just
39:19
another example of a commerce department prohibits Russian conspiracy software for US customers. We
39:25
just got to remind ourselves that, of course, is not just people like
39:31
this that are involved with national governments and so on. This particular article here,
39:39
Operation Triangulation, the last hardware mystery, is talking all about an attack
39:44
on iPhones which seems to have come from people associated with the US government.
39:51
So everybody is involved in cyber attacks and so on, and we cannot forget
39:54
Unit eighty two hundred, which has spawned so many organizations that are involved in
40:00
security on the Internet, not least Checkpoint, Palo Auto Networks and so on.
40:05
We talked about this before the various leaders and so on, but the
40:09
Israeli Cyber Companies Consortium all organizations that have been spawned by Unit eighty two hundred,
40:16
which is an Israeli government intelligence agency, and so on. We've got
40:22
Checkpoint announcing a new collaboration with Microsoft is Supercharge Infinity, AAI copilot which is
40:28
absolutely built into every Windows eleven operating system that you have on your PC.
40:34
We've got UK County consoles involved with Unit eighty two hundred spawned companies. We've
40:40
got NHS involved with Checkpoint. This just goes on. So it is quite
40:45
an incredible situation that we single out organizations that are probably best at providing security,
40:53
but because they have a claimed association with the Russian government, they get
40:58
banned. While we've got is really spawned companies absolutely hovering up huge qualities of
41:06
bog data, and we don't seem to worry about those at all. Debbie,
41:09
Let's come back to you, Yes, is our water infrastructure fit for
41:16
purpose? Well? According to the Financial Times, two water companies don't have
41:21
complete maps. Now they're talking about Southern Water and Thames Water. I can
41:23
tell you that Southwest Water, my own water company, are also they don't
41:29
have their own maps. I actually mapped our area for them and they're using
41:32
my maps. So it's not fit for purpose? And why isn't it fit
41:37
for purpose? Well, underneath our streets and what we don't see in plain
41:40
sight hidden are fat bergs who I'm sorry if it's lunchtime and you might want
41:45
to skip through that one, but fat Berg's a growing menace underneath our streets.
41:51
We had one blocking Sigma sewer that was so big it took eight weeks
41:54
for Southwest Water to remove and another one there you've got four hundred tons in
41:59
live so clearly they don't know where their pipes are. Otherwise we wouldn't have
42:04
fat bergs. Right in, CNN Travel produced this article saying England was basically
42:12
turning into the dirty man of Europe and it's something that I've been saying for
42:16
a very long time. Fourteen out of eighty of the bathing beaches were off
42:21
limits in Cornwall, for example, But in June twenty twenty two. I
42:24
wrote this article for UK column called the Reemergence of Victorian Diseases and I think
42:31
we need to be really looking at what we lived with pre sewers and pre
42:38
mains drinking water. If I take you back to the map that I've shown
42:42
you before from the WHO highlighting what would appear to be targeted epidemics moving forward,
42:51
and you can see us Diane highlighted, and I've highlighted before Ecoli and
42:54
Cryptospridium for Western Europe and the UK talk about epidemic preparedness. The London School
43:01
of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine have got their own center for Epidemic Preparedness. So
43:08
what do this is actually include? Well, it includes a lot of scientists,
43:13
statisticians, behavioral scientists. We've got pharmacologists, we've got government, you
43:23
name it, they're all involved in it. Sorry, Mike, did you
43:27
did you want to say something? No, it's just just you broke up
43:30
there very badly. W It's okay, continue? Oh sorry, okay.
43:35
So we've got this epidemic preparedness center. And of course the story of Ecoli
43:38
is still rumbling on. So is it the weather because Ecoli is being blamed
43:45
on weather. Now, the Telegraph had this story and then we had another
43:50
story running in sky talking about is it too early to determine the source of
43:54
ecoli? Could it be lettice? Was it Lettice? On Monday, Diane
43:59
was also so covering the validity of antimicrobial resistance, and she showed this slide
44:04
indicating that the uk HSA are investigating sugar toxin producing ecoli a steck outbreak.
44:13
Now this is very different. So ecoli is commonly divided into two broad types.
44:19
You've got the sugar toxin ecoli O one five seven, remember that O
44:23
one five seven, and the non sugar toxins. So you can see the
44:29
ones that I've marked in with the arrows are relayed, they're endemic, and
44:31
they're in the UK. The others are abroad. But what is sigalosis otherwise
44:38
known as is actually known as vacillary dysentery. So when I went to the
44:43
NHS page to look up dysentery, there you go two types of dysantery,
44:47
vacillary dysentery or shigilosis which is caused by Shigella bacteria. This is the most
44:52
common type of distantry in the UK. So Diane also was talking about out
45:00
drinking water, and we need to be able to drink water. And if
45:02
we get dehydrated because we've got dummy bugs, there could be a problem.
45:07
So how do you treat dysentery, Well, you treat it by you keep
45:10
rehydrated. So keep drinking, stay at home until at least forty eight hours
45:15
after the last episode, which could last seven to seven days. So here
45:20
we go again. Does that sound familiar? They're asking you to stay in.
45:23
They're also saying that you might need to submit regular poo samples. So
45:29
all these bowl tests that you've been getting through your door, is that trying
45:32
to get you used to giving pooh tests? And they're saying that very young
45:37
children are also at risk. And if we go on to look at what
45:40
the WHO say about shigela, they say, considering the potential of her immunity
45:46
and protection from all course diarrhea, the development of a shigella vaccine is an
45:52
important goal. So what kind of preparedness has been going on behind the scenes.
45:57
Well, we've got tabletop top exercises. One was a student who contaminated
46:01
lettuce with Shigella SONI. We've got another dismissed athlete who contaminated ice with ecoli.
46:09
This is all part of the tabletop exercises. And then we look at
46:15
the shigella vaccine. Sorry if you just go back one slide there, Mike,
46:20
very quickly, so phase two of a clinical trial looking for a shigella
46:25
vaccine. So we should all be watching out now. This is very interesting
46:30
because people were actually asked to drink drink shigella in a milkshake or a tablet,
46:36
which sounds pretty gross to me. And then antimicrobial resistance shigella. Where
46:39
do we go next? Well, clearly they're saying that this is a public
46:43
health catastrophe. So what happens after that? Well you might be interested to
46:49
know that there's a little, tiny, very short video just saying what is
46:53
dysentery and what do we do? I don't know if we've got time to
46:57
show that. Mic, go ahead, there's no blood in the store.
47:00
It's not dysentery. Now, to clarify, when I'm saying blood in the
47:02
stool, I mean literally bright red blood mixed in with the stall, not
47:08
just a little bit on the paper when wiping. Because depending on how often
47:12
you're going to the toilet, it's not unusual to get some irritations around the
47:15
back passage and straight away with that, that means that we can remove any
47:19
of the dysentery causing issues such as entameba, ecoli O one five seven,
47:24
shigella, compile a back to. Any of those things can be taken off
47:28
the table straight away. So that's just a little bit of information. And
47:34
here's a little bit of information on the ecolide that he was talking about,
47:37
Ecoli O one five seven, which can be found in the guts of animals
47:42
and also in their feces, contaminated food, undercooked meat. But finally,
47:47
do you remember Bill Gates's catastrophic contagion. There's a little tiny short piece of
47:52
video just to remind you of what he forecasts is coming up next. There
48:00
have been an estimated one billion cases worldwide, with more than twenty million deaths,
48:05
including nearly fifteen million children. Countless millions are alive but left with paralysis
48:10
or brain damage. The most successful countries are those which invested in preparedness and
48:16
trained for this moment years in advance. This included having full time pandemic preparedness
48:22
and response teams, which conducted detailed operational planning and routinely tested those plans through
48:29
exercises and drills. If more countries had participated and heated the guidance that all
48:35
might have been much less. And just to say, catastrophic contagion was about
48:43
a tummy illness, enteric illness. And for the records, all of the
48:46
medicines for shigela appeared to be out of stock. Yes, okay, thank
48:52
you, Debbie. No very briefly have been in that zero news. We
48:53
were talking on Wednesday about the fact that Russia has dees emitted Ukraine's electrics the
49:00
generating capacity. If we put that on screen and you want to see that,
49:04
look at John Helmer's report here. Well you'll be glad to know that
49:08
Zelenski has announced that they're going to solve that problem with solar panels. So
49:14
solar panels, smart meters and energy storage and its must appear in every school
49:17
and hospital as soon as possibly, he says, that's how they're going to
49:20
solve the problem. So no problem there. In the meantime, in Ireland
49:24
we have this from News Talk Domestic solar part I put up eighty percent in
49:30
a year is the answer. So of course, if you're starting from nowhere,
49:34
that might sound quite a lot, but in fact it's not really because
49:38
what they're quoting a representative of the Irish Solar Energy Association, in fact,
49:44
the chief executive, Connel Boulger, who's saying we delivered five hundred megawatts in
49:50
the last twelve months effectively. And I thought, hold on a second,
49:52
five hundred megawatts, that's not very much because over twelve months, I'm assuming
49:58
he means. I don't know we actually know what he means. But I
50:00
suggest this is a bit of fake news, a bit disinformation, because if
50:05
you take five hundred months, five hundred megawatts over twelve months, they're is
50:08
two seven hundred and sixty hours in a year, So that's only fifty seven
50:13
killer what ours and that's what about two hysands worth. It's not very impressive.
50:19
So Ireland clearly not doing very well with their solid part there. I
50:22
just thought we'd mentioned that in passing. But back to you, Debbie on
50:25
flooding. Yes, this is my life. Welcome to my world. So
50:31
let's start off first with a paper infectious diseases after hydraulic disasters, and I
50:37
just wanted to highlight that because you can see ecoli there. You can see
50:40
all the things that we've been talking about with regards to antibiotic and antibiotics and
50:45
AMR. Also, Chris Whitty has a bigger gender, it seems. On
50:50
sewage. However, he's never applied to me, but he refers to this
50:53
National Engineering Policy Center. You'll see the paper there on the right hand side.
50:58
He's very interested in sewage. In fact, in his twenty twenty one
51:01
annual report, he focused on health in coastal communities, and what he said
51:07
about health in coastal communities was related to flooding. So if we look at
51:13
the report and you can see the next chapter is about flooding, and it
51:17
talks about if you just skip on to the next slide, mic that's it.
51:22
So the conclusion there is that flooding is going to become increasingly important for
51:27
poor health. So if we skip on to the next slide again, there's
51:30
a couple of statistics. There's five if you've been a victim of flooding,
51:35
you're five times more likely to get depressed, seven times more likely to get
51:38
anxious, ten times more likely to get PTSD. And I can tick all
51:43
of those boxes. Now. Sky News has been posing problems and dangers about
51:47
shellfish and ecoli getting into shellfish farms. This is something that's been going on
51:53
for absolutely years and years. But the report goes on to say that last
51:58
year in Cornwall for excit sample, we had all sorts of sewage discharges thirteen
52:04
thousand sewage discharges courtesy of Southwest Water, which puts our muscle farms an oyster
52:10
fishermen at risk. In twenty seventeen, Corporate Watch published this paper on Southwest
52:19
Water pollution, floods and profits, and you can see there that residents reported
52:22
one hundred and sixty five incidents of internal sewer floods where there's actually been an
52:28
early day motion put into action. That's early day Motion eight six two if
52:32
anybody wants to see it. But this is nothing new. We've been screaming
52:37
about this for years, and even in the mail. This is one of
52:40
the bosses at Southwest Water saying don't swim in the rain because if you do,
52:45
we're pumping out sewage at the same time. So this is not a
52:49
new thing. Then I went back to the seafast reports. Not a lot
52:52
of people know that these seafast reports exist. They're sanitation reports. So I'm
52:57
just taking this one for an example foroy Estuary in Cornwall twenty ten, where
53:01
they're talking about ecoli in bivalves and they're showing significant positive relationships. If you
53:07
just skip on through the report, it says that the southwest of England is
53:12
one of the wettest regions in the United Kingdom. Yes, it certainly is,
53:15
and it's prone to flooding. Here's some results view that just shows that
53:21
the sea is a discolored color. It's brownish. There's all sorts of rubbish
53:25
on the beach, not very nice stuff at all. If we skip on
53:30
again from there, I've just a little map of ready Money co Very,
53:34
pretty little beach in Foy. I've just marked the two sewer outfalls and the
53:37
beach which is just inland and on the beach is a Southwest water pumping station,
53:43
so it's not terribly present pleasant. Recently fergle Sharky decided to come down
53:47
to Cornwall. I do hope he's watching because Fergil I would really appreciate a
53:52
talk with you, because he's taken on the fight against sewage spills in Cornwall
53:55
and it's a fly fisherman. He noticed that rivers were polluted, so last
54:00
week he was visiting Cornwall and he was apparently slamming Southwest Water, saying that
54:05
we should all be on the beaches protesting, and he even tweeted this little
54:08
map showing how disgusted he was about what was going on with sewage spills.
54:15
However, the real truth and the reality is actually this and this is my
54:22
road. These are my photographs. You see clear flow there pumping out the
54:28
sewers, and that's my road covered in water sewer floods in homes. And
54:32
I think we've got a little tiny bit of video, only ten or twenty
54:36
seconds, just to show you what happens when a sewer surcharges and what the
54:40
result is. Have a look at this, and I've had one hundred and
55:07
one of those. So I consider myself an expert by experience when it comes
55:12
to water companies and water infrastructure. Now, Fergus Sharky told told us that
55:16
he and his and the local labor candidate were going to be on the beach.
55:21
He told us to come to the beach to meet him, so I
55:22
did. There's my picture, but he didn't turn up the arrows pointing to
55:27
the sewage treatment works in the background, which isn't terribly pleasant. But meanwhile,
55:31
while I was waiting on the beach, I found this document from the
55:37
ed ec DC, Sorry I always get that acronym wrong, and it says
55:43
that for Disease Prevention and Control we they appear to suggest another possible attack on
55:50
the unvaccinated. And they're writing there that if you are unvaccinated for COVID,
55:54
this could put you at more risk of enteric diseases. So already we seem
56:00
to be bringing in a division with the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. Now I
56:06
messaged Burgle Sharky and I asked him if we could talk to him because internal
56:09
sewer floods are extremely important, and he's replied to me twice, but my
56:15
phone is still yet to ring. So if you are listening, I really
56:19
am keen to inform Furgle of what's going on, not just in rivers and
56:22
in the sea, but in our own home. So if you're listening,
56:25
perhaps you could God Cook contact me and Mike. I think you're going to
56:30
take us through the next few slides, because it's quite hard for me.
56:34
Customer experiences of sewer flooding. They know what it's like for us, but
56:37
they choose to ignore us. Well, I'll just read out a couple of
56:42
the comments here. At the time, I felt very on edge, very
56:45
anxious, and a bit emotionally fragile. It was quite tough. Obviously,
56:49
it's the place where I live, and so surge flowing out in a way
56:52
that you can't really stop. You're just watching things get worse. And we've
56:57
got a comment here being flooded with so they're just one of the most stressing
57:00
things that can happen to you in your home. And yet this is very
57:04
real experience for thousands of households every year. They're talking about the lasting effects,
57:09
the psycho psychological and emotional damage, often leaving people in vulnerable circumstances.
57:15
And where's that comment from Debbie that forward? These all of these comments are
57:21
from the report that off what and the Consumer Council for Water put out the
57:24
report that you've just shown in a couple of previous slides. And there's a
57:29
few more comments from another couple. It meant I couldn't use the bathroom.
57:32
I had guess run. It's pointless if you can't use it. You can't
57:36
have a shower or use the toilet without it. Overflowing. My flat felt
57:38
pretty gross. I don't want to invite people over and ask them, why
57:43
does your flat stick of eggs. They've not categorically told us about what the
57:47
cause is. The water company is not transparented about what's going on. By
57:51
the look of it, the pumping station is inadequate to cope with. Well,
57:55
may might dispute that particular comment. Perhaps haven't chosen the the best one
58:00
with climate chains, they say, making things worse. Well, maybe that
58:02
gives us a clue as to what people believe. Debbie. Yeah, and
58:07
I just want to say that homes are blighted, lives are ruined. I
58:13
live in a house without a bathroom, no hot water, no heating.
58:16
Looks is a nightmare. It's continual floods and we're still invisible. So Fergle
58:22
Sharky, if you're listening, please please message me. I'd love to interview
58:25
you. Okay, thank you, Debbie. Well, that is a long
58:30
well standing office or please do get in touch Furgle if you can. Ben,
58:36
let's come back to you then. And the future of Britain. Absolutely,
58:40
yeah, We're going to stay with the topic of human excrement and talk
58:44
about Tony Blair. So he's got the Future of Britain Conference coming up on
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the ninth of July this year, just a few days after the general election.
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And if you want to find out what the next government is going to
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be doing, and this is the place to go because you've got Rachel Reeves,
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the current Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, You've got Lord Haig, former
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leader of the Tory Party. You've got Patrick Valance speaking there, plus a
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bunch of other people. This is all being run and hosted by Tony Blair,
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obviously alongside his sidekick, his buddy, Mete Choban. And I've first
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heard about Meti cho Ban last year when Debbie and I both watched the Future
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Great Britain Conference, and Debbie, I hope we're going to do that again
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because it was quite fun, and anyone else who wants to find out what's
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going on, I'd recommend signing up to that because it's free and you can
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get a good insight into what the global elites are planning now. Meti Choban
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has been very active, as we've spoken about previously. He is the chief
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executive and founder of this organization which is My Life, My Say, which
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is a UK based charity surrounded by an absolutely astonishing array of different organizations.
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The US State Department, I six various Roth affiliates, and they have been
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basically set up to the explicit purpose of getting young people into the political system.
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They've been running this campaign called give an X alongside Freud Communications, which
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tells us that actually this endeavor is about delivering the Sustainable Development Goal. This
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is all part of progressing the global agenda. They've been involved in this very
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active early this year in signing up voters, young voters in particular, and
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I got this email this morning through from then saying that they've now signed up
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one point six million and I'm in the bottom right hand corner over one point
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six million young voters who are going to be flooding the electoral system and they're
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all going to be voting for labor. Basically, it seems to be that
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this has been already decided in advance. Who's pulling the strings here. We've
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already talked about Blair and various other organizations, but I've just found out that
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Alistair Campbell was intimately involved in setting it up. Metti Joban here expressing his
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thanks to Alistair Campbell on Twitter yesterday. We've also found out from Dan Laws
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here, who works on My Life My Say, the Chatham House are now
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involved as well and actually running events next week with them. Quite remarkable,
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and they're going to be doing this with a whole bunch of other organizations as
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well. So they've got three hundred organizations involved in the run up to the
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general election, including forty of the UK's biggest brands, hundreds of young activists.
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You can see they're like the young fellaw in that image. I mean
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when I first looked at it almost looked like he's in the playground. I
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think it is quite in the playground, but they really are targeting very very
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young people to get involved in this. And who is Dan Laws? So
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he works with given X in My Life, My Say. He's also you
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can see he's pictured there with Prince William. He's on the board of something
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called the Diana Award and he's also a Schwartzman Scholar and the Schwartzman Scholarship is
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a one year, fully funded master's program in Beijing designed to build a global
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community of future leaders who will serve to deepen understanding between China, where they're
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basically developing a lot of the globalist technologies and their policies and the rest of
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the world. Right. So that's what another organization, and obviously that's backed
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by Steven Schwartzman, who is the chief executive and founder of Blackstone. So
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this is just another individual alongside all of the others that we've been speaking about
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today and on various other shows at various other points of time, sitting behind
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the scenes of my life, my say, exerting control over the UK political
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system. Yes, indeed, Ben, And we're just going to end this
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little statement with a short piece of video of Kirstearmer being asked a question.
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I believe this was last night, but it could be wrong because I didn't
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watch it. But let's just listen to this, Colins. Where about to
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you hire? Three years ago you criticize your MP Rosie dots Field for saying
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only women have a cervix. You recently backtracked on this. What do you
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believe now and how do we know that you will stick to your views?
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So Rosie Deffield said in twenty twenty only women have a cervix. You said
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in response, that's something they shouldn't be said. It's not right. Well,
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look on the biology, I agree with what Tony Blair said the other
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day. All right, So frankly we don't need to listen to what else
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he had to say there, because as soon as he said I agree with
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what Tony Blair said, Ben, that's all we need to know. Tony
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Blair, the man who just won't disappear from public life. Indeed, what
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more can we say? Okay, well we're going to leave it there for
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today. I've got to say thank you much, thank you very much to
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Ben, the Debbie and the Cherald for joining us today. Thank you all
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for watching. We'll be back in a few minutes. If you're on the
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