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  Speaker 1: A star on the move but not traded, not traded,
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  Speaker 3: And if you didn't see this.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps in a big shake up, oh my god, a
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  Speaker 1: big shap although the guy was gonna play anyway next season.
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  Speaker 1: If you didn't see it from Pro Bouncy Ball, Dame
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  Speaker 1: time has ended. No more dam at least for the Bucks.
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  Speaker 1: If you have not heard, and maybe you have missed
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  Speaker 1: it here, the Milwaukee Bucks have said bye bye to
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  Speaker 1: one of their star players. No, they did not trade Dame.
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  Speaker 1: They did not trade Giannis, but they did leave many
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  Speaker 1: around the NBA thunderstruck. As it is game over for
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  Speaker 1: Dame Lillard there and see you later. They agreed to
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  Speaker 1: a four year contract one hundred and seven million dollars
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  Speaker 1: for former Indiana Pacers center Miles Turner. You might remember
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  Speaker 1: he played for the Pacers for the longest amount of
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  Speaker 1: time of anyone currently on the Pacers. They were in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and he was the top free agent
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  Speaker 1: on the market and he is no longer at market.
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  Speaker 3: He has come off the market.
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee did not have enough cap space to sign Miles Turner,
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  Speaker 1: so they circumvented the salary cap, proving yet again the
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  Speaker 1: cap is crap even in the NBA, and so they
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  Speaker 1: created the necessary room to add Miles Turner by waving
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  Speaker 1: Damian Lillard. He was fired by the Milwaukee Bucks. Out
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  Speaker 1: of course, in the NBA, when you're an All Star
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  Speaker 1: and you've got a decorated resume, they call it released.
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  Speaker 3: They don't say you're fired, they say it's released.
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee will pay him more than one hundred and ten million.
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  Speaker 1: That's guaranteed money the final two years of the contract,
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  Speaker 1: and it's essentially a dead cap hit. Something that happens
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit in the NFL world is happening now
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  Speaker 1: in basketball. So Damian Lillard, who dealt with the snap
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  Speaker 1: Crackle Pop, goes the Achalles during the playoffs and the
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  Speaker 1: story is he's elated. Reports say Dame Lillard elated, elated,
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  Speaker 1: the Bucks decided to get rid of him. So let
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  Speaker 1: us discuss the question why why is Damian Lillard so
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  Speaker 1: happy that Milwaukee is firing him? So I've got Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: telescope and alligator.
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  Speaker 3: And we will combine all of.
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  Speaker 1: These things together, and we were gonna put the biscuit
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  Speaker 1: in the basket, is what we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: So a Dame Times.
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  Speaker 1: His reaction here is what we call a dead giveaway.
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  Speaker 1: It is a dead giveaway. He never wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: to the state of Wisconsin. Every man, woman and child
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  Speaker 1: knew that to pay attention to right, we all knew
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  Speaker 1: that you want to go there.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you didn't make a big stick about it. But
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  Speaker 3: deep down he had his heart set on Miami.
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  Speaker 1: He was eyeing Miami palm trees and cocktails and sunshine.
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  Speaker 1: And he went to overcast, dreary skies, chili weather Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 1: and the Trailblazers were use to accommodate Lillard's desires, his
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  Speaker 1: wants and needs back in the day, and so he
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  Speaker 1: went to Wisconsin there and he didn't want to go there,
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  Speaker 1: And so he did his time with the Bucks. And
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  Speaker 1: now he has been given a Milwaukee mulligan. He's got
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  Speaker 1: the mulligan, Dame Lillard and one hundred and thirteen million.
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  Speaker 1: That's not punishment. Your employer is paying you one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirteen million. You don't have to work for them,
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  Speaker 1: my god. And the reason he's so happy is he's
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  Speaker 1: obviously not going to be playing for Milwaukee anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: Lillard will end up getting another at least one hundred
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  Speaker 1: million dollars on top of the one hundred thirteen million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a microcosm, is it not, of the
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  Speaker 1: modern NBA landscape In the year twenty twenty five, the
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  Speaker 1: superstar player gets the divorce. It is so routine now,
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  Speaker 1: it is so I'm in you do not even need
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  Speaker 1: a lawyer at this point. Now, this is more extreme
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  Speaker 1: than most. But Dame Time got his freedom and he
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  Speaker 1: gets a big, giant, cartoon sized buyout check the Bucks
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  Speaker 1: clear salary cap space, and everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Just hugs it out. It's like they're in a Hallmark movie.
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  Speaker 3: And Lillard moves on to his next team and then
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  Speaker 3: that's that. In Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: On his way out, they say, all right, dam we
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  Speaker 1: will give you a golden parachute, and it's cloth has
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  Speaker 1: been weaved with gold, we melted it down, we weaved
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  Speaker 1: it in there, and it allows him to handpick his
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  Speaker 1: next team, whoever that might be the usual suspects. And
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  Speaker 1: despite being on crutches because his Achilles is all messed
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  Speaker 1: up and shredded. Damian Lillar will be doing the mating
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  Speaker 1: dance with prospective employers. They'll play footsie and they'll flicker
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  Speaker 1: their eyes and all that. He will not be able
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  Speaker 1: to play until at the minimum February of next year.
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  Speaker 1: So it's October, November, December.
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  Speaker 3: January, maybe even the whole year.
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  Speaker 1: But the early reports are he should be able to
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  Speaker 1: play by some time in February of next year. So
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  Speaker 1: where will he Well, you keep an eye in the heat.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have anybody good. They suck the Miami heat,
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  Speaker 1: so that's an obvious one. A team like the Denver
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  Speaker 1: Nuggets could see them. They're shaking things up, moving some
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  Speaker 1: things around. Could see that then, and who knows, go
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  Speaker 1: back to the trail blass to try to win. So
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  Speaker 1: could go back there. He obviously regretted when he laughed.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, well, this life on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the grass is not always greener. If it is, maybe
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  Speaker 1: I don't like that green. I like a different shade
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  Speaker 1: of green. Meanwhile, so let's go out of the other
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  Speaker 1: part of this. And that's the Milwaukee Bucks part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Is it true or false? The Milwaukee Bucks were being reckless, reckless,
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  Speaker 1: as some indicated by buying out Dame Lillard to get
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  Speaker 1: their hands on Miles turn. This is being described the
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  Speaker 1: word was used. That was the word that was used
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  Speaker 1: on this. So it's sure or false. So on my
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  Speaker 1: scorecard I wrote down false with a capital F. False
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  Speaker 1: with a capital Now, the idea that the Bucks were
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  Speaker 1: somehow reckless and going rogue and all that by buying
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  Speaker 1: out Damian Lillard's contract and pivoting towards Milestroner, I find
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  Speaker 1: that laughable with a capital L.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: This is about not about being reckless. It's about a
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  Speaker 1: different R word, being realistic. That's the word I will
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  Speaker 1: use here because in the NBA, you build around You
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  Speaker 1: don't really build around a system or a culture. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: loves to talk about those things, but you don't really
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  Speaker 1: build around those things. You build around a superstar player
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  Speaker 1: period stop. And when you've got a once in a
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  Speaker 1: generation player Yannis identa cumba like the Milwaukee Bucks have
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  Speaker 1: their hands on a generational town blah blah, one man
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  Speaker 1: wrecking crew, etcetera, etcetera. The Greek God and high tops
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. You do whatever you have to do,
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  Speaker 1: to pacify him. And so this is Yanis's franchise. Now
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  Speaker 1: we all know that.
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  Speaker 3: And they go, they go to hell when he leaves.
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  Speaker 1: So if you look at this through a telescope, get
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  Speaker 1: the old telescope out. I mean, you look at the telescope.
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  Speaker 1: Yannis in this solar system and Milwaukee bucks hierarchy is
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  Speaker 1: the sun. He is the moon, He is the cheese Kurds.
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  Speaker 1: He is the cheese in Milwaukee basketball. And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the cost of modern contention because once
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  Speaker 1: Janice is done there, it's all over, right, it's all
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  Speaker 1: it's all over. So you either pay now or you
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  Speaker 1: pay later. So Yannis, when he walks out the door,
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  Speaker 1: at some point you figure I'll play with somebody else
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  Speaker 1: before he's done in Milwaukee. Then it's all over. So
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  Speaker 1: this was the word is calculated. It's a calculated move
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  Speaker 1: because you say it's desperate if you want, and you'll
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  Speaker 1: call it whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But I would not use the word reckless. I would not.
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  Speaker 1: And the movie is about keeping Yannis engaged and you know,
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  Speaker 1: smiling and all that stuff, and contending and competing and
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  Speaker 1: but staying, staying, because you got to have about twenty
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  Speaker 1: draft lottery appearances before you get another player like Yannis,
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  Speaker 1: and the moment that he leaves and the door closes
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  Speaker 1: behind him, Milwaukee becomes just another small market, go nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: filler spam team in the NBA, and they'll have the
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  Speaker 1: memories of Giannis and then wherever he goes, they can
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  Speaker 1: watch him and the broken dreams of him playing for
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  Speaker 1: somebody else, and then maybe their arena.
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  Speaker 3: Will become haunted by the ghosts of what could have been.
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  Speaker 3: So you whole lot of that.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have the price is you got to
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  Speaker 1: pay one hundred and thirteen million dollars in money for
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  Speaker 1: a guy it's not going to be on your team.
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  Speaker 3: You spread that out over a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: But you do that because you get a couple more
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  Speaker 1: years out of Gianni's before he demands to be traded
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  Speaker 1: to the.
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  Speaker 3: Knicks or the Warriors or the Clippers or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: All right now, the last word here, So were the
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  Speaker 1: Pacers being El Cheapo? We're the Pacers being El Cheapo
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  Speaker 1: in letting Miles Turner leave for a team in their division,
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  Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks. Because the story out of Indiana Pacers
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  Speaker 1: riding high. They were in the NBA finals year and
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing and got all the way down to
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  Speaker 1: the bitter end of the NBA Finals than that. So
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  Speaker 1: does a dog get fleece? Is my response. We're the
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  Speaker 1: Pacers being cheap. Let's hear. So let's do the arithmetic.
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  Speaker 1: So Miles Turner is gone. He's not staying in Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: Not because he wanted to leave, if you believe his
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  Speaker 1: own words. Not because of that, Not because he didn't
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  Speaker 1: fit playing alongside type Halliburton's got his own achilles injury
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  Speaker 1: or not because he couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Get it done on the court anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Not because of that, Not because he was not a
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  Speaker 1: productive member of the team that got to the bloody
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  Speaker 1: NBA Finals the Pacers did, and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: When you break it all down, you add the numbers
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  Speaker 1: up and you put them in the calculator. Miles Turner
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  Speaker 1: is gone because the Pacers, the ownership group there, once
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  Speaker 1: again refused to spend like they you have to spend
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  Speaker 1: a certain amount, you get to a certain point and
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  Speaker 1: everyone gets paid a lot of money there and you
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  Speaker 1: have to pay to keep that talent together. And they
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. It's not the first time.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the last.
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  Speaker 3: Time, and this is it.
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  Speaker 1: It's no different than in baseball the Tampa Bay Rays,
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  Speaker 1: whoever so often have a team that gets far in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then they immediately.
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  Speaker 3: Start dumping players.
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  Speaker 1: I can't afford this guy for that guy, and you're gone,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gone, and you're gone, and there you go.
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  Speaker 1: So just whatever success the Pacers have, we know that
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  Speaker 1: it will not last. It's just the latest example. And
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  Speaker 1: I have no skin in the game because I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not there, I'm not a fan of the team.
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  Speaker 1: I just know from the outside and looking down from
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  Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet that this is a tradition. It is
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  Speaker 1: an endearing tradition of the Pacers. When the check gets
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  Speaker 1: really really big, the Pacers they pull back the pen
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  Speaker 1: is what they do. They want to pay that. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like when you go out to a nice
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  Speaker 1: meal with some friends and the check comes and it's
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  Speaker 1: time to pay the bill, and suddenly the Pacers they're
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  Speaker 1: there and they had a great time. They enjoyed the
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  Speaker 1: nice bread with the garlic olive dip there. They like that,
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  Speaker 1: they like the fetichini alfredo, they like some of the
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  Speaker 1: other dishes. And then when it was time to pay,
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  Speaker 1: they become an alligator alligator arms. Suddenly they can't reach
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  Speaker 1: the check. And that's the Indiana Pacers. They had success,
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  Speaker 1: they tasted it. Everyone seemed happy. There was a fluke
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  Speaker 1: run to the NBA Finals, and so how do they
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  Speaker 1: handle that. They're like, yeah, you know, cheapness. Rick, Carlisle
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  Speaker 1: and Halliburn, these guys were, oh yeah. Carlile said it
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  Speaker 1: was a priority, that Miles Turner was a priority.
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  Speaker 3: Said that back at April.
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  Speaker 1: They all said the right things, because this is why
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  Speaker 1: you don't take what people say for more than just
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  Speaker 1: face value. And it was their priority until it came
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  Speaker 1: time to actually pay the money. And so keeping Miles Turner,
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  Speaker 1: we are told here that keeping Miles Turner around, that
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  Speaker 1: that would have meant going into the traded luxury tax.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, horror of horrors. That is something the
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  Speaker 3: Pacers have not done in a generation.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty years. Having done it, haven't gone there, not going
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  Speaker 1: to do it now. So the Pacers blinked and Miles
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  Speaker 1: Turner said bye bye. He bolted out of there like
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  Speaker 1: a horse running at the start of the Kentucky Derby.
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  Speaker 3: Got out of there.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't really blame him for doing that. Indiana
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  Speaker 1: had a chance to keep him. They fetched around, They
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  Speaker 1: left around, and they found out. They eft around, they
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  Speaker 1: found out, and so they chose their favorite player.
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  Speaker 3: They love the almighty dollar.
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  Speaker 1: Save a couple of shekels, and so the Pacers will
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  Speaker 1: save some dollars and all that. And while they did that,
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  Speaker 1: they watched the longest tenured player go out the door.
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  Speaker 1: And not just go out the door and go out
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in the Western Conference. No, no, no, no, he will
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  Speaker 1: come back to be a poltergeist, Miles Turner, at least
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  Speaker 1: for the next couple of years. He will hunt him
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  Speaker 1: as he will be in the same division, any division
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  Speaker 1: rival team that the Pacers had owned in recent years
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Well, now Myles Turner gone, and so
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  Speaker 1: they'll have to get somebody else and figure that out
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  Speaker 1: and throw it against the wall like spaghetti and see
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  Speaker 1: it sticks against the wall. Yeah, it's a sad, sad
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  Speaker 1: So it's not a sad story.
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  Speaker 3: It's just a rather pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: So if you would like to comment on that or
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  Speaker 1: any of the other moving and shaky going on, busy time.
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  Speaker 1: You love the transaction, and who doesn't love the transaction,
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  Speaker 1: a fine time of the year for the transaction. We'll
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  Speaker 1: In another day, Another wrinkle in the Lebron drama Orama
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you've not been following. Perhaps not now I do get
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: paid to follow this. I don't know that I would
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: pay this close attention if I didn't have this job.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: In fact, I would guarantee. But I have the job,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and I do find it interesting. So Lebron's agent, the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: person that Lebron buddied years ago, that has been writing
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Lebron James Cotails all these years, Rich Paul.
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  Speaker 5: So.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Rich Paul says that as many as not one, not two,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: not three, but four four NBA teams have already inquired
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: about trading for Lebron from the Lakers. Of course they've
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: gone to Rich Paul, because you don't negotiate a trade
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: with Lebron unless unless Rich Paul says it's okay. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that comes amid reports that Lebron has given a hostage
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: note to the Lakers, hostage note about if you don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: make the roster the way I want the roster, you're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I'm gone. I'm gonna seek a trade. Now.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: He did pick up his fifty two million dollars player
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: option to return, possibly to the Lakers, but that has
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: not stopped the rumor orama from picking up steam here
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that he's gonna change teams, he's gonna go somewhere else,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff. So let us discuss the question,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: how do you process all right? How do you process
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: supposedly four teams contacting.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Rich Paul for a Lebron James trade.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: So on this one, I've got flare Gun, Feather and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Applebee's and we will combine all of these things together
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and we are gonna make some lucky charms, like a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: leprechaun would have you a lucky trip. Now, number one,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I said, number one, Yeah, get out the old magnifying glass.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I got the magnifying glass out on this one. So
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: this is what's known as vague headline harvesting. It is
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: vague headline harvesting, no names, no offers, no actual news.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like the Knicks, the Timberwolves, the Warriors, the Rockets.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It was just four teams. And it's not four out
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: of thirty because it was twenty nine other teams other
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: than the Lakers. And you immediately eliminate the Charlotte Hornets,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets, teams that aren't even trying to feel
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the competitive team. But it's just enough, just enough bait
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that it'll feed the content cycle for a day, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you take the hook.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: On that and you kind of run with it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And it's not like it's the twenty ten We're not
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: going back fifteen years the decision by Lebron at a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: boys and girls club in Connecticut.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: We're not doing that. And so this is not really
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: so much as a report, if.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You will, It is more of like a flare gun
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: by Rich Paul. If you imagine Rich Paul shooting up
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a flare from the top of Clutch Mountain, beautiful Clutch Mountain,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and signaling to the NBA world that Rich Paul is
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: still calling the shots, that Rich Paul is still in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: charge both on and off the court, and if you
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: want a meeting with the King, you have to visit
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Rich Paul. Now, I maintain my take. I have not
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: altered my take from the previous edition of the show.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Lebron is not going anywhere. He's not unless unless he
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: wants to go somewhere. All Lebron is doing right now
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: through Rich Paul is just keeping his.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Name talked about. That's it, right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: If Lebron got to the point where he actually wanted
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a trade, Rich Paul would have shams in one ear
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: and he'd have Adam Silver in the other before skinny jeans.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Rob Polinka could even boot up the trade machine on
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the Internet and see what he could get for Lebron.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So forget about that, and you can bet the phrase
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: four teams. I saw that lot, Rich Paul. Four teams,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: four teams picked very carefully, right, Not several, not multiple teams.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: It was four. That sounds surgical, an exact number, four.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Teams, not five, not six, not seven, right, strategic suggesting
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: what suggesting? Something simmering And again my position, Spider of Art,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: nothing simmering. There's nothing on the back burner at all.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: We're supposed to believe that contenders are lining up to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: trade for a forty year old Lebron James with more
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: miles than a rental car and massive salary. I believe
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: his salary fifty three million is the g DP the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: domestic product there of like Micronesia.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I believe I'd have to go check.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: But all because Rich Paul said, you said something to
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a few NBA insiders and then they repeated it, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that led to the Internet doing its thing, and we're
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: off to the races and all that. Because Lebron's not
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: just your run of the mill older player. Lebron's going
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to control everything. Like one of the theories is the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: reason Lebron's grumbling is because now he's no longer the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: king of the team that Luca. It's like lucas the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: center of the universe in Lakerland, and that's bothering Lebron.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Like Lebron's like, no, I'm no king, King Lebron, where
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: would he go?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: You're gonna go back to Cleveland. I don't think he's
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: going anywhere.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the Lebron Show, and Rich Paul
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: is the executive producer of The Lebron Show. And I'll
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: believe it when Lebron goes somewhere else. I don't believe
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: these initial round of rumors. Although it is good engagement,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It's good engagement for me, all right. Meanwhile, turning the page,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: So the Lakers had a very embarrassing week here we're
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: into early July, but the start of NBA free agency.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: The Lakers wanted to add a center, and any believed
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: they had circled the wagons for Brook Lopez, who had
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: been a free agent from the Milwaukee Bucks played with
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the Lakers in the past, then went back to Milwaukee,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and that was the guy they wanted. That was the centerpiece,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and he is bringing his towns to Los Angeles. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: brook Lopez will be a Clipper, not a Laker. So
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: why why would brook Lopez picked the Clippers over the Lakers?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Explain that to me like, I'm five years old, So
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'll explain it to you in forwards.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: You ready, here they are. It's hip. Two clip, boom,
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  Speaker 3: drop the mic, hit the clip. Yep, that's right, thank you.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, it's hip the clip. Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Another feather in the cap of the Clipper ship there
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and a swing batter, a whiff for skinny jeans, Rob
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Polenka another with They're also more on Dorian Finney Smith,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: who the Lakers had and wanted to keep. He also
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: left to go play for the Roquets to hang out
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: with mister Irrigation in Houston. But the Lakers they cannot close.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: It's been a problem. It's been an ongoing problem here.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And listen Lopez. Well, some people say, well he's old,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you know what you want a guy like that, He's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: an older player. But make no mistake, brook Lopez still
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: is able to defend the rim and those three point
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: shots the moneyball from brook Lopez like a stretch four.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Pretty pretty good from Brook Lopez. And it's not a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: minor move. It's not a major move. It's not a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: minor move. It's in the middle, and it's a savvy
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: strategic addition by the people's team and a front office
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the Clippers that unlike the Purple and Gold, where they
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: love to tell you how great they are, right they
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: go around, they leak every negotiation. Everything is out there,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's shams or somebody else, and they
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: scream about how great their culture is and you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the pride of the other bull crap with the Lakers
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and people buy into it. Low
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: information fans buy into it. It's a failure. The Clippers
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: saw a need and they filled it and Brook low
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: pezel player a fair amount of minutes until he gets
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: hurt because he's older and all that stuff. And meanwhile,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the Lakers, though they were in the mix.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: In the mix, and that's been a status they've had
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: for a lot of the players they've wanted to get
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: in recent years.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: In the mix. On the radar.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: They're on the radar, the finalist until they're not. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: what Rob Polenka needs skinny jeans Rob Blinka is he
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: needs another.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Assist from Nico Harrison.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Is there any way that Nico Harrison and Adam Silver
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: can just give some more good players to the Lakers,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: because without help, without the push from the NBA and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Nico Harrison to bail him out on his own devices,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it has not gone well for Skinny G's and Brook
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Lopez clearly has more confidence the Clippers will make a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: further run than the Lakers. Otherwise the money be about
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to say he would have gone to the Lakers. And
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: so we'd rather play with Kawhi Leonard and James Harden
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: than the Pillsbury dough boy hook Luka and Lebron who's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: playing a foot seat with leaving even though we don't
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: think he actually will be all right now. Final point,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: So new team, same old KD, Same old KD. Some
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: internet investigators had a field day because it turns.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Out that if you didn't see this.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: In a recent guest appearance on Lebron's podcast, Kevin Durant
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: spoke at length about a number of basketball related issues,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: including shot selection and when to give up the ball
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and when not to give up the ball and all
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that stuff. So one of the things he said was
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: how Kevin Durant said he would rather the ball be
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: in the best player's hands than to pass it to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: someone like Dorian Finney Smith with the clock winding down. Now,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the reason this is interesting is because not only did
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant end up on the Rockets, but also his
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: new teammate is Dorian Finney Smith.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Ding ding ding ding ding.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Durant didn't just say I prefer to take the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: last shot. No, no, no, He went next level. So how awkward?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: How awkward are things going to be for Kevin Durant
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and Dorian Finney Smith now that they will be brothers
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: in arms, they will be comrades with the Houston Rockets.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So again, the fact that Durant didn't keep this vague,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm happy he didn't. In his wildest dreams, he
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: clearly did not imagine a world where he would have
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: a teammate named Dorian Phinney Smith and they'd be playing together.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: But here you are, right here you are, And so
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the normal response is I just prefer to take the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: last shot. He didn't say that, though. Again, he basically
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: said why in the world would I pass.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: To that guy who happens to be.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: His teammate now? And man, it's gonna be fun. I'm
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: not a big chemistry guy. You can't hate each other though.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: You can't go into it hating each other. And you
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: got Durant already calling out teammates. No, he didn't didn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: work with the Rockets. He wasn't a rocket when he
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: recorded this. But the fact that he said it and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he named the name, he named him, he said the name,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: he said it. How great is that first get together
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: going to be like they have the team meeting, they
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: have the first team then they go out to an Applebee's, Yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and they're they're ordering And then do they sit Dorian
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Finney Smith at the kiddie table? Does he sit at
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the kids table? Is he allowed with the rest of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the team there. And it's not even about his skill set,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: not only he's on average NBA player. I think Dorian
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Phinney Smith is an average NBA player. He's like roster fillers.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll be okay, most of the time, you don't
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: notice he's there. Sometimes he's terrible's he's just there, and.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: But very awkward, very very awkward and it's.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: It's an equivalent of like over the weekend, you come
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: into the office on a Monday. You show up to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: work on a Monday, and you find out that the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: boss was trying was just ripping your new one, trash
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: talking you at happy hour on a Saturday, and some
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: of your coworkers were there and like they heard stuff,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and it's we're not even close to this time where
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they get together.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: The season starts really in October.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Training camp will begin and the season will begin at
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the end of October, and all this stuff, and we've
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: got the drama. Who's got the drama. They've got the drama.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: So maybe Dorian Phinney Smith comes in there and just
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: shrugs it off, and at least that's what we do publicly.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: It'll inspire him to play better. It all fuel, give
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: him some jet fuel.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe he will knock down a bunch of three point
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: shots and they'll hang out. Durant and Finny Smith will
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: be buddy buddy, right, they'll sing Kumbaya and roast marshmallows
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But this is the NBA twenty
• 33:15
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• 33:22
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• 33:26
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• 33:56
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• 34:02
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• 34:06
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• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Would you like to play the game Tree? Yeah?
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• 34:50
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• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the truck that Tree is driving around the Windy City.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And hello, Tree, you're gonna play the game. I know
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: you didn't call for this, but you're gonna play.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Youre gonna be good sport, right of course? How you doing?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: But how's how's a lot of treating in Chicago? Everything good?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Good man at old Hair Airport right now, just doing
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  Speaker 3: Do, beautiful.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I one time got stuck in a lightning storm at
• 35:14
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  Speaker 1: They had left the gate and we were waiting to
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  Speaker 1: closed and it was close for like six hours and
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: we sat in that plane.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: It was a nightmare.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Anyway, anytime I go to O'Hare, I think of that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. Okay, well, let's play the game. Tree
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: is in Chicago picking up some deliveries.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get three right to win, three right to win.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Are you ready? All right, question number one. So number one. So,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the Milwaukee.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Bucks just signed Miles Turner coming off an NBA Finals appearance.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: In the Finals, across the seven game series, Turner made
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: twenty five total baskets.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Is that too much or not enough? Tree in Chicago
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Mouth didn't play too good.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say not enough, all right, believe it or not,
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  Speaker 1: The answer is too much. He made barely over the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: barely under that he made twenty three shots, twenty three totals.
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  Speaker 1: Under that's all right, you have more questions our.
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  Speaker 3: Question number two.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: After adding DK Metcalf and Aaron Rogers this offseason, the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers have just recently traded for Jalen Ramsey. In
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: his entire career with Jacksonville and the Rams and the Dolphins,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Ramsey has twenty two interceptions. Is that too much or
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: not enough?
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Too much? You sure about that? Don't go with too much?
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna go with too much? You sure? Let's find out.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's not enough. I tried to talk you into it.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty four passes. He's intercepted twenty four passes his nine
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  Speaker 1: year career. So again, it was close, but it's not enough.
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  Speaker 3: More than twenty two.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Question number three, Darren Waller is coming out of a
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: brief one year retirement. He was traded from the Giants
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. He'll be playing in Miami. Just before
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this year off. Waller played one season for the Giants.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: In that loan season, he caught just three total touchdown passes.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Is that too much or not enough?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Oh? Man?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: He was terrible that year. Yeah, he was pretty bad.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I'm gonna say under three because I
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: remember the game. Do you think that's too much? All right,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: let's see is that too much? Here you go? You
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  Speaker 3: got one right? How about that? I got only one.
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  Speaker 1: Touchdown in twelve games Darren Waller for the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: So you're on the board. He was so bad that
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: he was so bad that he's so bad he did retire.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: He got suspended from the NFL. He was so bad,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: but they said he was retired. But no, no, all right,
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  Speaker 3: let's go to question number four. And you're listening to
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  Speaker 3: the tree.
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  Speaker 1: He's at O'Hare Airport picking up some deliveries right now.
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  Speaker 1: Question number four got to get this right to stay alive.
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith spoke to the Athletic that's the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: from the Ohio State University and gave a money quote.
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  Speaker 1: He says he promised he won't lose another game to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Michigan in the past. The season's lost to the world rains.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: He had sixty receiving yards in the big game. There
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  Speaker 1: is that too much or not enough?
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  Speaker 4: When they lost the game?
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  Speaker 1: I think sixty yards was too much.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's find out you're right, stay alive. If not,
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  Speaker 3: you lose, let's find out here you got your role
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  Speaker 3: about that way even up too much?
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  Speaker 1: I only had thirty five receiving yards in that game.
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  Speaker 1: He did have a touchdown. So here he comes down
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to question number on five. Will the tree get higher
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  Speaker 1: in the sky or will we chop the tree down
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  Speaker 1: right now? He say, well, we say timber or we
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  Speaker 1: say you're gonna win our question five? This is Game
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  Speaker 1: seven of the World Series. This is Game seven of
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the Finals. NBA Finals is Super Bowl. Here we go,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it's all online.
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  Speaker 3: Are you ready? Tree? Hi, let's go, Here we go.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: The man sounds very confident, very calm.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: The New York Knicks are reportedly bringing back Mike Brown
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  Speaker 1: for a second interview. He's definitely an experienced candidate. Having
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: been an NBA coach for ten seasons? Is that too
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: much or not enough for Mike Brown?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Man, NBA coach for ten seasons?
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Think about it, King Laker, Yeah, that's right. You know
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: every team is coached. That's good.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Uh Man, I'm gonna go with ten seasons? Is too much?
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You sure about that? You positive? You want to go
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: too much? You don't want to change that answer.
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  Speaker 3: I think you do a reverse psychology.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: So yes, I'm gonna stick with my asses.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: So you don't think I like you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: You think I'm trying to tell you that to lose.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: All right, let's find out your final answer is what
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: ten seasons too much?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Find out you lost?
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: It's not a no.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: No, I actually liked you. I wanted you to win,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: but no.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: So instead Tree, We're gonna give you you do not win,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give you a lifetime supply nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Tree.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: So whenever you want nothing, you know, your birthday holidays,
• 40:34
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• 40:36
  Speaker 1: gives you nothing, and we'll give you a way. Round
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: trip to nowhere. That's nowhere, Oklahoma until they get an airport.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Then that's void.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So round trip to nowhere and a lifetime supply nothing
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: because we're the Ben Malor Show. We have no budget. Well,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: thank you tree, safe travels around Chicago there. We thank
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you for listening every night.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you. Thank you. Be good, my man.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: All right, there is a tree in chicag I tried
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: to help him.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Did I not try to help him?
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: You?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Did?
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: You even gave him the opportunity to go back and
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: switch it to the answer multiple times?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: They were literally multiple times. I was like, I want
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: this guy to win. It did not work out. You
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: thought you were trying to manipul if I was trying
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to screw him over. I wasn't trying to screw him
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: over all, Right, trad a, we are gonna have We're
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: gonna time shift for ratings purposes.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: We are gonna have Mallor to the third degree, Malor
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: the thirty. We'll get to that and we will do
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: it next.
• 41:33
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  Speaker 3: And here we go his third degree. Time.
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  Speaker 1: We've time shifted this for ratings purposes, so we passed
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the mic over to producer of the night, Ian Roddy.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: All right, so first question here for you, Ben. Famed
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: YouTuber turn boxer Jake Paul defeated thirty nine year old
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Julio Caesar Chavez Junior via unanimous decision a few days ago,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: making yet another crazy victory over a long pastest prime
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: former boxing champion. So now the WBA, which is one
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: of the sports Big four governing bodies, They've added Paul
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: to its World Cruiserweight rankings, putting him at number fourteen.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: So none of the other three big, big governing bodies
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: have done that yet they are the first ones. But Ben,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: do you like the decision to add Paul to the
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: affair rankings or is he not really?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: No, No, it's ridiculous. Its in boxing. He's hanging out.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It's on fumes. I used to love boxing growing up.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: It's the UFC is kicking their ass every single day
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: of the week. It's embarrassing for boxing. They still have
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: this alphabet soup, these four different things. They no one
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: has the balls to consolidate boxing the wa WBA. As
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you say, you're talking about losing credibility. It's ridiculous. Number two,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Jake Paul is a grifter, He's a carpetbagger, He's a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: side show.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: To give him any kind of credibility is embarrassing.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. He's fighting tomato cans on a regular basis.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: And you know there are many on the internet. I'm
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: not one of these people saying it. Don't sue me
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that claim on these these are all scripted fights. I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: don't know whether that's true or not. I just things
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I've read on the internet, but it's it's embarrassing to
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: make this seem legitimate bad job by the WBA.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Next.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you alluded to it in the last segment there,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: But the Athletics man in Navarro release Blair recent recently
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: released a feature on Ohio State by the paywall at
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the Athletic Yeah yeah, yeah yeah so U and it's
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Smith detailed his hate for Michigan, how crazy it was
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: losing to them last year, and in the article, he
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: also promised on the record that he will not lose
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: another game to them. That'd be the next two years
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: before he held the NFL at least. So, Ben, do
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: you buy Smith's guarantee that the Buckeyes won't lose the
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: next time?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: But what did he put on He's gonna cut a
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: toe off or a finger?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: If he did not specify whether he's got a real
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: betad And listen, what's he supposed to say? The most
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: amazing thing about Jeremiah Smith is he is making, if
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the Internet is right, four point two million his his
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: salary at Ohio State four point two million in nil money.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Aren't you supposed to win every game when you were
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: When you're at four point two million dollars? He's third
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: in all of college football in nil money, which is amazing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: That's wild to me. Uh, he's a great he's a
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: great talent.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: He's going to be drafted in the top two or
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: three of the NFL Draft, assuming he doesn't fall apart
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: before he can be drafted and all that stuff.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: But he has to say they're gonna beat Michi.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: If you're at Ohio State, it's like it's like being
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: at sc and saying, well, we're not gonna I think
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: we'll lose to Notre Dame this.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Year or UCLA. You can't say that, all right, I
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: know you're an old trojan next.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Yesterday, the Dolphins traded Jalen Ramsey and tight end John
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: new Smith to the Steelers for Minka Fitzpatrick and a
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Day three pickswap so Ben, who do you think won
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: the trade?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna discount John new Smith for a second,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: just on the defensive back for the safety, I'm gonna
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: give that to Jalen Ramsey. I don't think he's even close.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Like Ramsey, he is tiptoeing towards the end of his
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: career because the age thing. He's still got a little
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: fuel left in the tank. If you look at Minka
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick in Pittsburgh last year he allowed a career high
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: opposing passer, rating the numbers across the board like he
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: was so much worse than he had been, like he
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: fell in an abyss there in Pittsburgh. And so it's
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: not surprising that they trade. And maybe you'll find the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Fountain of youth. As you know, the found of Youth
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: is in Florida. Ponce de Leon somewhere in Florida has
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the found. I think it's in Tampa actually, but but no,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say the Steelers.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Won the trade. I don't mean John O.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Smith is that great, but he's he's better and Jalen
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Ramsey's better than this battery.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: All right there it is mallor to the third degree.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Ian, How did we do crunching the numbers here?
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, looks like he's a win.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Look at that Cunner on the lord.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Another win. I'm the all time wins king. No one
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  Speaker 3: else