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Brian Peters Chasing Edges · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Good to go.
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  Speaker 2: Ready, clap clap, clap action. This is another episode of
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  Speaker 2: Busting with the Boys. I am your host, William Merrol
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  Speaker 2: Kompton third. My co host today is he goes by
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  Speaker 2: the name Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Peters, Brian Edward Peters. Before we get.
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  Speaker 2: Into the episode and get into Brian and his background
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  Speaker 2: Taylor and I. We went to the dealership. We've already
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  Speaker 2: told you the story plenty of times. That boy he's
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  Speaker 2: Country Silverado. Brian, Are you a big Chevy? Are you
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  Speaker 2: a big Chevy guy?
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  Speaker 1: I had a Chevy Tahoe for about eight years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm a Chevy guy. Did to treat you well,
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  Speaker 1: treat me great, and then drowned in the Harvey flood
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  Speaker 1: really out of Texas. Yeah, got water up to the windshield.
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  Speaker 2: And then Chevy probably helped you out and got you
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  Speaker 2: out of that mess and probably hooked you up with
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  Speaker 2: another Chevy.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But scrappy, scrappy, gritty, all the lunch pale stuff you
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  Speaker 2: can think of. Go to a Chevy dealership near you,
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  Speaker 2: let him know the boy sent you, and take a
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  Speaker 2: video show your friends. But hey, this episode we're brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Chevy. Now we're gonna sit in chat
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  Speaker 2: with the old boy. Brian Peters. Brian, your background. You
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  Speaker 2: went to the Universe or you went to Northwestern University.
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  Speaker 1: You're a nerd.
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  Speaker 2: You went you are a transitional safety that went to linebacker,
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  Speaker 2: that moved to linebacker in the league. Before you got
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  Speaker 2: to the league, you were in Arena Football, Canadian Football.
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  Speaker 1: UFL in between there, I got.
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  Speaker 4: I got so you were the UFL in between Arena and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did like training camp and I got cut
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  Speaker 1: from from the UF. You got cut in the UFL,
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  Speaker 1: the league I didn't want to be in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you went up to Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Canada, Yeah, Canadia. Yeah, Yeah, they'll they'll fix you if
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  Speaker 1: you cracked that.
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  Speaker 4: And then you finally made it at what age to
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  Speaker 4: the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: I was a twenty six year old rookie with the
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Holy shit, dude, yeah, madness.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to have Brian on Obviously he's
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  Speaker 2: gritty and all this type of shit, But the dude is,
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  Speaker 2: you have a perspective, a work ethic. You have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of shit. So Brian and I met each other
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  Speaker 2: through like a doctor. We both like consult with a trainer.
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  Speaker 2: He helps with like when we go and get our
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  Speaker 2: blood work checked out, nutrients, any deficiencies we have, any
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  Speaker 2: injuries we have. I saw Brian's jersey hanging the WALMA, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: do you know Brian. You know Brian Peters asking the
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  Speaker 2: doctor doctor Serrano, shout out doctor Serrano, no free shoutouts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a fucking Puerto Rican.
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  Speaker 1: He said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thinking, hey, no, disrespected the Puerto Rican shout
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  Speaker 2: out to perto Ricans. But doctor Serrano is a crazy
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  Speaker 2: Porto Rican. He's a mad genius, a scientist with supplements. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, somebody will Brian's like my son, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I had respected Brian from AFAR because he
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  Speaker 2: was a captain for the Houston Texans, which we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get in all that stuff because I think it's
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  Speaker 2: incredible that you arena football cut now that we know
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  Speaker 2: from the UFL Canadian Football NFL, you become a captain
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  Speaker 2: amongst like a roster filled with like you know, all
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  Speaker 2: the savages, JJ Watt, the.
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  Speaker 1: Hop we had Tyranne, you had some j Jo Jonathan Joe.
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  Speaker 1: So if we have dogs on that team, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can follows it. What's your Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Brian underscore Peters ten. You can check out all.
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  Speaker 4: His shirtless photos on Brian Underscore Peters ten.
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  Speaker 1: Up to your neck and the eyes anything but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the only jealous.
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  Speaker 2: I can't look like that, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe at some point in time when I can put
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  Speaker 2: the food down, I actually have some discipline and not
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  Speaker 2: go into the pantry at night with the munchies, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Those Trader Joe's dark chocolate peanut buttercups.
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  Speaker 2: They hit those dark chocolate covered almonds. I'm a big
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  Speaker 2: chocolate guy at the end of the night. What are
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  Speaker 2: you talking about? What is it? Just Brian flex and
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  Speaker 2: most muskyther and I just shoot all the eyes to
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you can see a.
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  Speaker 1: Garrett All laughing.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, fuck, I'm missing it. But dude, where it
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  Speaker 2: even start? I mean, let's talk about why in the
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  Speaker 2: you'd play Arena football?
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  Speaker 1: Oh dude, it so. I mean it started on draft day,
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  Speaker 1: like obviously, like I'm training for the Combine and didn't
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  Speaker 1: get invite to the Combine. Like I had a good
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  Speaker 1: senior season. I was playing safety at the time. I
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  Speaker 1: led the big tenant interceptions that year, Like thought I
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  Speaker 1: had a chance at least to get it, like undrafted, uh,
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  Speaker 1: free agent deal something along those lines. Draft day rolls on,
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  Speaker 1: I get zero phone calls. I get the only person
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  Speaker 1: that called me on draft day was my agent, and
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  Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald asked me, like what the deal was.
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  Speaker 2: And you, uh, sorry interrupt, but you had the most interceptions,
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  Speaker 2: you were coming off the most.
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  Speaker 4: You said something, you had a stat getting off.
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  Speaker 1: I led the big tenant interceptions, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so like at least like some kind of look for
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  Speaker 1: like a roommate. Some plays had a hunter tackle like
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  Speaker 1: that kind of deal, Like I thought I had a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying, like, you can't even get a
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  Speaker 1: rookie mini camp tryout now. So so so as the
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  Speaker 1: story rolls on, So like four days later, we had
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  Speaker 1: a Northwestern guy down in the Buccaneers training camp and
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  Speaker 1: he got me in for like the tryout and their
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  Speaker 1: mini camp. And their mini camp was crazy because it
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  Speaker 1: was Schiano's first year down there. Oh I I've never
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  Speaker 1: heard good things, dude, Savage. So like, so it's a
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  Speaker 1: three day mini camp and we're running two A days
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  Speaker 1: and so we got to two A days and then
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  Speaker 1: one more practice, but we're doing strength and conditioning in
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  Speaker 1: between the two days so we hit a workout, or
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  Speaker 1: so we hit a practice, then we did a workout
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  Speaker 1: and we run hundreds during at the end of the workout,
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  Speaker 1: and then we go out for a second practice. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm playing safety at this point. Second practice, we have
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  Speaker 1: three linebackers pop hamstring. So I go down and play
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  Speaker 1: sam linebacker because I was the biggest safety. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have some soft tissue injuries too, Yeah, fucking yeah. Little overtraining,
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  Speaker 1: a sprinkle of overtraining. So I switched down to sam
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  Speaker 1: backer and ended up holding my own. I had Brian Cox.
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  Speaker 1: He's an old dog from oh I saw good videos. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's either he's a he's a saucy motherfucker. He's a stud.
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  Speaker 1: But like that was like my first lesson and like
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  Speaker 1: showing like I had a good camp. They're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you come back here and you gain twenty pounds that
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  Speaker 1: kind of deal. So I was like, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to get signed. I'm leaving feeling pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: And I had like another work out the following weekend
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  Speaker 1: for the Bears mini camp, and they like that was
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  Speaker 1: like but like so down in Tampa. That was Mark
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  Speaker 1: Baron's rookie year. So he was like a safety that
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  Speaker 1: came in and did they end up having like another
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  Speaker 1: undrafted freegent sign that kind of thing. Anyways, long story short,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't sign me, but I got like my first
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  Speaker 1: lesson on like how to show up for a workout
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  Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. Brian Cox was a savage.
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  Speaker 1: He's like basically saying, like, any chance you have a
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  Speaker 1: time to show your physical show effort. He goes, never
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  Speaker 1: lose that. Because there's like a time I met this
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  Speaker 1: full back in a hole and it was tag off
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  Speaker 1: and like I tagged off. He goes, would you hit
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  Speaker 1: him there? I was like, I was like, yeah, of
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  Speaker 1: course I would have dropped him. And he goes, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not in pads with just some helmets. And he
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  Speaker 1: goes he goes, I don't know that. He goes, never
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  Speaker 1: passed up an opportunity to fuck up, fuck up a dude.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and that's stuck in the back of
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  Speaker 1: my mind. And that showed up up in the CFL.
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  Speaker 1: But like from there, went to the Bears work Bears
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  Speaker 1: tryout and did I bawled like I had two picks
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  Speaker 1: in the mini camp. They had this third round draft
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  Speaker 1: pick that he didn't pan Out. He was out of
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  Speaker 1: the league in like two years, but like outplayed him.
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  Speaker 1: Thought I had a chance. But like that was those
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  Speaker 1: two camps, Like they showed that I could They told
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  Speaker 1: me in the back of my head I could play,
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  Speaker 1: like I knew I could play now, So like that's
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  Speaker 1: why I went through all these other leagues.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why you're hanging. You're like, yeah, I'll I'll
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  Speaker 4: see this through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so like so now I'm back in Northwestern
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  Speaker 1: I'm living on a couch behind my or I'm living
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  Speaker 1: on a bed behind my buddy's couch in their apartment
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  Speaker 1: in like northern Chicago, and uh, and I'm working oddjobs
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  Speaker 1: on personal training kids. Uh dude, I'm babysitting, like I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing demolition for this this hockey player and his family
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  Speaker 1: and just getting getting by. And I'm training at this
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  Speaker 1: scrappy phenomenal gym, this boxing gym, and the basement at
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  Speaker 1: ten pm at night. So I'm popping pre workout at
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  Speaker 1: nine point thirty, going to this basement, getting it done,
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  Speaker 1: waking up in the morning, going back doing again. Make
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  Speaker 1: money enough to get by. And so my agent, like
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  Speaker 1: nobody's saying anything, so he sends me out for the
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  Speaker 1: summer to arena football the Iowa Barnstormers where Kurt Warner played.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: Shout out the Iowa Barnstormers. Yeah, shout out the Iowa Barnstormers.
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  Speaker 1: But they so my agine goes go out there, like
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  Speaker 1: play for a few weeks, stay in shape in case
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  Speaker 1: NFL calls. And I was like, all right, bet, So
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  Speaker 1: I get out there. I drive out to Des Moines, Iowa,
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  Speaker 1: and I get there and like I'm I already think
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the team. And I get out there and
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  Speaker 1: it's a thirteen man tryout for two spots for like
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  Speaker 1: to end out the season. So I'm like, well, let's right.
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  Speaker 4: I end out the season of an arena football team.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. So I get there and it's thirteen man tryout,
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  Speaker 1: end up making the team, me and one other kid,
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  Speaker 1: and so out there getting paid three hundred bucks a
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  Speaker 1: week before Texas to play football. Dude. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: most fun football they were playing in my life though,
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  Speaker 1: So is that.
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  Speaker 2: Just because it's just like I just freedom. It's like
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  Speaker 2: keep playing high school ball again, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I was playing this jack linebacker position where I start
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  Speaker 1: on what like the short side of the field, and
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  Speaker 1: my only job is that you check run and then
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  Speaker 1: you run horizontal and hit anybody of any other the
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  Speaker 1: other team's color. And you're smashing dudes in the walls.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're launching dudes over the wall. There's people pouring
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  Speaker 1: beer on you. Like I'm talking more shit to the
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  Speaker 1: fans and I'm talking to the players. It was so
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  Speaker 1: much fun, phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: So what were the fans like, are they just like
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  Speaker 2: trying to drag you a little?
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  Speaker 1: But everybody's chirping you and like like there's people like
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: on dates. It's just it's like a it's a cool
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  Speaker 1: environment because you can hear and then like there's people
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  Speaker 1: right behind your bench talking the whole time. So it
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  Speaker 1: was fun. It was It was a good experience. And
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  Speaker 1: then for three hundred bucks. For three hundred bucks a week,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean they they covered like an extended stay too,
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  Speaker 1: so like it's a little we'll call it even seven
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  Speaker 1: hundred a week. But uh so then went went back
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  Speaker 1: like it was working and training in Chicago still and
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  Speaker 1: then my agent got me a tryout with the UFL.
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  Speaker 1: So I went out with the Omaha Nighthawks. Uh shout
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  Speaker 1: out Nebraska.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shut out in Nebraska. I think there were some
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  Speaker 2: of the boys that were out there playing on the
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  Speaker 2: Omaha Nighthawks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can the only like Maurice Clarett was there
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of days and like that was the
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: last I heard of him. But he but anyways, like
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: went out on a tryout, made the team, came back
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  Speaker 1: to Chicago for a week, then went back out for
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: training camp. And at that time, SO went through training camp,
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  Speaker 1: had a good training camp, and then NFL had their cuts.
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  Speaker 1: They picked up all the loose NFL guys, so cut
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  Speaker 1: half the roster. I was out of there, crushed, thought
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  Speaker 1: like my foot all career was over because my agent
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  Speaker 1: wasn't saying shit. And then I came back to Chicago
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  Speaker 1: like kind of kept training. My agent was just like like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to go to Canada because you have
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  Speaker 1: to sign a two year deal all like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm I want to play football, and
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  Speaker 1: you get back to the NFL. So he sends out
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  Speaker 1: lines to his CFL contacts and NFL again hang on
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  Speaker 1: slow down.
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  Speaker 4: So how long were you in the arena circuit? Like
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: you're still kind of in it right now?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, So arena's done. Arena was like four
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  Speaker 1: or five weeks. So at what point of the year
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  Speaker 1: is Arena playing. I think that was June, so like then,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: so you're in June about to go into the new
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  Speaker 1: NFL training Yeah, so like the next season, so I
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: guess it was July. No, so July, so my rookie,
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  Speaker 1: so that was twenty twelve I came out, ye, and
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, so probably July. And then whenever cuts are
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: in football August yeah yeah, so like so it's probably
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: middle of July to August. And because of then, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so then there's a week week or ten day break
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  Speaker 1: before the UFL. I was in the UFL for two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: NFL had their cuts wash the board. So now NFL
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: is starting, I'm hearing nothing from NFL or CFL, and
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  Speaker 1: the CFL is wrapping up their season. CFL is a
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  Speaker 1: summer league. So my agent gets crickets. I go, dude,
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  Speaker 1: give me everybody's emails, all email them from my perspective.
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  Speaker 1: So I email say, hey, Brian Peters, I'll be a
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  Speaker 1: dog for you. It's it's trash when I look back
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  Speaker 1: at it now. I still got the email too, It's
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: so I read it every now and then. For like Jews,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: but yeah like juice yeah, like yeah, so just the
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  Speaker 1: like motivate me, like makee shit happen once I can
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  Speaker 1: do it again kind of deal. And then so I
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: email all the CFL guys, all the NFL guys. One
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  Speaker 1: team response to Sketching Rough riders like I had my
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  Speaker 1: highlight tape and crap on.
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  Speaker 2: There, and then like yea, all be a dog for you.
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  Speaker 2: Check the tape. Yeah, check the tape. Yeah you want
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: to check tape?
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  Speaker 1: What movie is that? That's the I don't know, couple's retreat.
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  Speaker 1: You want to check tape?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about full back being like a being
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  Speaker 1: like an all say high school full back. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: uh so that anyways, Sketching Rough responded and then responded
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  Speaker 1: to me. So then they never even talked to my
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  Speaker 1: agent at the time, so they said, hey, yeah, come up,
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  Speaker 1: we'll throw you on practice squad and you can sign
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  Speaker 1: a deal after that. So I was like bet so
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  Speaker 1: I talked to my agent. He negotiated my contract really quick,
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  Speaker 1: which was their minimum, and then went up there, which
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: is showing Canadian highlights right now, Oh here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Peters, who has in fourteen defensive highlights. You'll see
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  Speaker 1: some linebackers, some safety on here. I did a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of everything up there. I see just getting nasty
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Oh you go, Daddy got in there.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Daddy got in there. I love that. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: I went up there, and then this is where, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is where I started getting seered to doctor Serrano.
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  Speaker 1: So I got, how old are you me? I'm twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm twenty five about to turn twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: and twenty six is a death birthday for me. So
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  Speaker 1: I go up there. I'm on their practice squad for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and I signed my two year contract.
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  Speaker 1: So this is for thirteen fourteen. And so the day
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: I get back is a Thursday. It's my birthday Halloween.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: So I get back and like one of my birthdays
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: on Halloween, my birthdays on Halloween, we're a big Spootober podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Oh big, Like we're big spootob guy. Okay, big dress
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  Speaker 1: up party for the birthday kind of guy. But I
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: get back and my buddy Jeremy Ebert just got cut
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: by the Patriots, and so he was in town. He's
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: got money in his pocket. He goes, let's go out
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: for your birthday dude. He was my college roommate for
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: four years. And so we go out from and all
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: my other buddies couldn't make it out because it had
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: worked the next day. So me and him go out.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: We get rowdy, and I end up getting jumped by
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: three bouncers. So I get like, what you do?
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I ended up getting jumped by three bouncers.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: It sounds ramadic, But what did you do?
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not. It was not uninstigated, but uh no.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: So all right, so like I like the dance when
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I go out that I was prevacive with that. So
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: we're at this bar, I know the DJ at the
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: bar's in Columbus, and I'm dancing on stage with some
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: girls having a great time. Bouncer comes over, weighs me down.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: He goes, no guys dance on stage. I go all right,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: so come on. Yeah, So I jumped down off stage
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and like I proceed to like walk to the bar,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: grabs my arm, pulls me back. He goes, no, you're
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: out of here, dude, and I go for dancing on stage. Obviously,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I give him a little little attitude and he uh
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: and ends up kicking me out. I go peacefully. I
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: was like, just don't grab my arm, Like, I go
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: out peacefully, and I'm not rock rocked at this point.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: So and at this time these there's three bars that
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: are connected by inside doors. So I go and go
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: into another bar, and I walk back into the bar
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: and join my people. This goes on for a few
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: more hours. The boys are drinking and drinking, and we
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: get to the point where I'm buying shots at the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: bar and pretty saut up got like my buddy and
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: a group of girls with us, and I'm ordering shots.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Uh people start to grab the shots as I'm buying them,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: and like, I turn around and there's we don't have
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: enough shots. So I start politely our drink with the bar.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, we don't have enough shots, and
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: she goes, yeah, we do. Like you're just being drunk,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: which I was, and then she waves over the bouncer,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: same bouncer they kicked me out the first time. And
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: so I'm so, I'm dressed as it's Halloween. I'm dressed
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: as Batman and he goes, oh, Batman's back. He goes
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Batman's back, and uh so, anyways, this time they don't
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: take me out the front door. Him and two other
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: bouncers escort me out the back door. He my buddy
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: at the time. He sees me arguing with these bouncers
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: at the back door. He runs over. He goes, we're
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: leaving guys. We're leaving guys. And then he goes, I'm
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: calling our ride. We're out of here. So he goes
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: out the back door first, and the back doors like
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: connects alley to the street, and then so and then
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: more so their security can put each other too. But
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: so I turn around and I try and get the
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: last word with the bouncers. Didn't work out. My last word,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: no clue. I was your boy was a little great
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: out at this point, but like, so get the last word,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: walk out, and then next thing I know, someone's trying
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to rear naked me from behind. I turned into some punches.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'm down on the ground. I'm out. My buddy runs back,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: jump like jumps, push the guys off. Guys go back inside.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: But so we get in the car and luckily his
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: cousin that was picking us up, is it. Yeah, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: was like, I was t K I was down, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: my buddy turns around and said he saw me getting
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: stomped out and yeah, so I got like I got cut,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: yeah batman. But so, but so like that's where again
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: another time where I thought football was gone too. But
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: so we get in the car and like his cousins
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in dental school and like checks me out, my teeth
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: are moving, my jaws moving, My jaws broke. So I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: go to the hospital, uh and ended up getting surgery
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that night on your jaw, on my jaw, So I
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: have a plate and seven screws in my jaw and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: they uprooted a bunch of teeth, so I have like
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I have like ten fake teeth on the bottom, like
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I had a flipper, like the whole time in Canada,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I had flip out teeth. So like I told her,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I was a hockey player. But yeah, so you you
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: legit get sucking like I get wrecked. You fucked. Yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I spend I spend seven weeks wired shut, thirty hours
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: in the dentist chair like that kind of stuff. But
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: but so that night, so like obviously like I'm here
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: with doctor Toronto a little bit at this point, and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: my mom calls him at like three in the morning says, hey,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Brian got jumped, like he needs like surgery tonight, that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. Toronto calls this doctor, this oral surgeon.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: She comes in from like two hours away at three
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in the morning to do the surgery kills it I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: have any problems like that kind of thing, but like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: at the time, like they're like, your mandibles are cracked,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: really weird, all this stuff like you might you might
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: not be able to play football again. So I'm like
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: fuck like like I'm like I did this to myself.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Are you still in the Batman costume?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: No? I did not wake up in the Batman costume.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: They let me go into surgery like that. But but
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so anyways, uh wake up, Like i spend like a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: week on the couch. I'm I dropped fifteen twenty pounds
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: really fast. I'm sipping liquid percocet like a juice box.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And doctor Toronto comes over and he goes like, get
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: off your ass, you pussy. He and so like, so
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm over there. No, he's a man, and and he
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: like he cares more than anybody, which is really cool.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Like he like he's he's a tough dude, but he cares.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So I started training with him for the last six weeks.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I was wired shut and by the end of that
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: six weeks, I was ship. I was almost up to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like linebacker weight, so I gained more weight than I lost.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I was the strongest I've ever been because like, but
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I was, I mean, I was drinking everything, like I was, dude.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I was blending up steaks, I was blending up cookies.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I was blending up Chipotle. So like my diet was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: like three liter cups and I was just drinking my
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: entire diet and made it happen, and supplements and everything
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but bananas. So yeah, it's super crazy. But anyways, uh
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: from there, that's fucking nuts. Yeah, that's fucking awesome. Yeah yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: but I mean that's I did. I did to myself.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I got your boy got a little too crazy and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah for sure, but I still didn't deserve
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that ship.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like nobody's gonna be, you know, blending up steaks
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and Chipotle and thinking about getting their way back.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so like kind of at this point now,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like I like I I kept training with them and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and then eventually went back and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: did northwesterns Pro Day the following year, and I was
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: switching the linebacker at this point. Now is gonna go
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: play some linebacker safety in Canada. And since I didn't
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: get a shot at safety, I'm gonna try and play
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: linebacker because I know I can play. And so I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: go to the Pro day. I run faster, jump higher,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like all my numbers are better, even though I gained
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: twenty pounds. So and that's where like now, like I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: see the relationship between the leg strength, the supplements, all
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: these things. So I start to go and like I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: started to get like addicted to the to the gym
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: into like bettering myself and chasing these edges to be
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: just to be better and get the shot that I wanted.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: So I go up to Canada, and low key I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: got cut from Canada and they put me on Pea
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: squad for a little bit. And then in the story
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and so the only reason I got active the first
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: time in Canada so that in Canada football fields longer
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and wider and the field goal is on the goal line.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: So this one of our other like our weekside linebacker
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: was covering this post route and runs into the field
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: goal and breaks his collar bone. And so I get
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to be active and start eating on special
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: teams up there and eventually earn the starting spot on defense,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: play another year up there and get the opportunity to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: come back to uh the NFL with the with the Vikings.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: But that was a whole another mess in and of
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: itself because I get back or sorry, I'm at home
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: after my contract and the the the rough Riders call
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: me and say, hey, who's your agent because they don't
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: remember because I initially initially made the contact. Yeah. So anyways,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: they're like, like, the the Eagles and the Saints want
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to work you out. So I was like, all right, cool,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like put them in touch with my agent. I work
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: out for the teams, but I work out for the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Eagles first, have a really good workout, and they they
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: do your blood work and X rays and all that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff at the workouts, and they go, hey,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: something's wrong with your blood work. It's probably it's probably
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a lab air, but uh go get your blood work
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: tested to get and sent to us. And I'm a Serano,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: so uh I was like, Doc, like, I say, I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have low blood platelets and I go, I don't know
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: what that means. And he goes, oh shit. He goes
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like low blood plates usually means cancer and all these
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy things. So we'll go get a ton
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of test done. But eventually I find out I have
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this rare blood condition called itp idio thrumbo side opinia
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and explained low blood paga idio thrombo side opinia. But
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's just unexplained low blood platelets, and like, so basically yeah,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: so yeah, but so, but basically, like, I'm very susceptible
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to like gunshots and stab wounds. I'll probably die if
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I get shot or stabbed. A lot of people would.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm very susceptible to gunshots.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of us are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but it's not Eventually. I got to the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I found out enough about it down the road once
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: because I so like I made the mistake of going
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to the Saints for the next workout and I killed
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the next workout like ran high four five like shuttled
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: like in the like six seven again like three cone
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: shuttle that kind of thing, like good workout. I had
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: their pro personnel guy, Terry Fontau, like saying, hey, we're
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: gonna sign you. I was like bet, like I'm I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: got a shot in the NFL. And then he goes,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: but we gotta get but you have this blood thing.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: We gotta get that figured out. Like we've never had
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: this before. So like he's like, we'll link you with
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: our hematologists, our blood doctor, and we'll figure it out.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Don't hear anything for them for a few weeks, and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the CFL starts calling their freeency opened and so up there,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: like the money goes fast. So like basically every day
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of freegency up there, I'm losing like ten grand a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: day if I'm going back to the CFL. My agent
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: can't get a hold of anybody in New Orleans. So
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and I have this other agent call me asking me
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: about my contract in there because he's got another guy
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that's negotiating. We're trying to drive the price up all
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: this stuff. Anyways, like this agent was like more speaking
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: my language. My other agent wasn't doing shit. So I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: fired the other agent, which I should have done years before.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: But and so he gets me in touch with the Saints,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: gets me phone down there, but they're gonna have me
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: sign an injury waiver where if I don't if I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: don't heal on any like any injury concussion, pulled hamstring, sprain, finger, whatever,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I don't heal on their timeline, they can cut me
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: without pay, no injury settlements and that kind of stuff,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and which was trash. And so that agent was like no,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and we're still talking to them. And then I switched
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: agents and that agent got me three workouts in twenty
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: four hours. So that's the first time was like, oh,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: agents do kind of matter. Yeah, they do matter, like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: their connections matter. And then a couple of days later,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I worked out for the Vikings. Didn't tell them about
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: my blood condition. They never even noticed in my blood
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: work and that kind of thing. Had a good off
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: season with them. Love Minneapolis, really cool locker room up there.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: They put me on Pea Squad. I'm twenty I know
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it's a shit show of the story, but I'm twenty six.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: All this happens from the moment you get yet on
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: your birthday, yeah, twenty three to twenty five, Yeah, yeah Jesus.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: So anyway, so I get to Minnesota, and that's why
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I link up my guy Harvey, who we have the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: mind Strong project with now the Breathing Company.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But so I'm there link with him. But uh, they
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: put me on Pea squad. I was on peace squad
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: there for three weeks and like and then on like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a Tuesday, I'm at like a charity event for the Vikings,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and I get a call and my agent said, hey,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the Texans want to sign you. Go to the airport
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and like, I have a flight in three and a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: half hours, So like, I hustle home, leave my car there,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff and hang on.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: So you made the you you were in Vikings training camp.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: No, I was like, I was in Vikings training camp,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and they put me on practice squad when the right So.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: When the season is done, they cut you and put
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you on practic squad. You're there for the first three
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: weeks yep. Which season is this twenty fifteen twenty fifteen season?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And then in three weeks your agent calls Texans want
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: you to sign active.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yep with them? Yep. All right, and so and the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: kind of the little dance I went through here now
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: is if somebody signed you off practice squad, they have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to keep you active for three games to give you
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: an accredited season yep. And so however much money that
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: equates to. But the Vikings want me to stay there too,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: so they offered me full salary guaranteed to stay there
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: for the whole you're on practice squad, and they said
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: they'd get me up as soon as they could to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: active roster. So I'm sitting at the airport trying to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: make the decision whether to stay for half a mil
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: or go and play three games for whatever twenty K
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: game or whatever it equates to. And so I'm sitting
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: there like trying to make decision. I have equity build
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: up there, the coaches know me whatever. The same story
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: with all those guys.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for everybody listening to, like when you're on peace
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: squad and you're like a You're a solid player that
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: they know can potentially develop or get activated for them,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: but they know they can hide you on practice squad
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: until somebody finds you. That's essentially what happened with Brian
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: is the Texas society, you know, we want this kid now.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: The Vikings have to Now Brian has leverage to leave.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So what they would do is offer that salary style
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: pay so you can play like you're on the active
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: roster but stay on practice squad, and then they'll throw
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: everything in the toolshit at you. Be like, you know
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: you have a good reputation here, you have good relationships here,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: We'll get you up as soon as we can. Like
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it's all negotiating, it's all like yeah, mind games.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's but it's empty promise correct. Yes. And so
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I got to the point where one of my buddies
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: hit me with a line that was just a switch
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: for me. I called Dan Percy, is a quarterback in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Northwestern with me, and he goes, Dude, you spent three
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: years in three different leagues to play in the NFL,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: not practice in the NFL. I was like, yeah, let's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: try good. I'm on the plane and so I and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I've been talking to my mom and my brother and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: my buddies and that kind of thing during this whole deal.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: And I get on the plane, my uh my parents
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: call me and they're like, you know what, me and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: your dad talked. We think you should stay in Minnesota.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, Dad, I'm on the plane.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: They're like, okay, Like we're more conservative you than that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: conservative conservative than you anyways, Like good luck. So I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: go down there, start playing Week four down there and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: put like put together like a great season I was.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I led the NFL and special teams tackles with twelve
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: games played, so like I like got their kind of
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like there you get their attention. Yeah, kid, got their attention.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Got leverage, and like the leverages everything in the NFL,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, how many times did you have leverage
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: on a team to know like, yeah, they're gonna they're
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: gonna sign me back, or know that you like you're
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: adding enough value that they're going to keep you right, Like.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: The injury waiver stuff was the same situation I've explained
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: before on the podcast. But when I went and tried
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: out for Oakland and they wanted to sign me, they
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: had an injury waiver sitting in front of me being
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: like if anything on my like my right leg, anything
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: on my right leg gets damaged, they can cut me,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: wash their hands, not have to rehab me, not have
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to pay for any surgery. Like if I tore my ACL,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: they don't have to pay for it. They can just
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: cut me and do away with it. And I was
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: able to be like, you know, I don't want to
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: do that, Like I'm gonna leave. Do you mind getting
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: me a flight back to Nashville, Like yeah, we can
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: get that set up. Pre I'm sorry it didn't work out.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Twenty minutes later, they walk back in like, hey, May
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: outcomes in.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, if we do away with this injury waiver,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: would you sign. I'm like yeah, He's like, let's make
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it happen. So it's just crazy how that kind of
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: stuff works. Like if you have a little bit of
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: leverage or a little bit of anything, it's you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: it's everything.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like life is a negotiation too, so oh guaranteed.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But even that, Like I mean, yeah, they're protecting themselves
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and they're making their business decisions and that kind of thing.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like they.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Were trying to tell me, Will is on, Will's taking
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: indocent and an anti inflammatory and you know that that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: raises eyebrows for us. And I had just sprained my
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: ankle and got an injury settlement with the Saints during preseason.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, I'm on it because I sprained
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: my ankle and aside from that, everyone in the fucking
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: locker room is on anti inflammators, and you guys are
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: gonna give it to me anyway if I say I
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: don't have it, because my agent call is like, why
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: would you tell him that, I'm like, because it doesn't
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: matter to me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I just let them know?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, Like you know, I'm I'm doctoring my ankle a
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: little bit and I'm still on stuff, and he's like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you know, you can hurt yourself. That's why they want
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to put the injury settlement. It's like, well, all right,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it doesn't like it doesn't matter to me.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now that you're fighting fire and you want
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: me to lie to them, So like it's.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Just when we're all doing it anyway, like everyone down
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: in the lock.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Dy is time planmatory, like the I mean, like they're
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: starting to tighten up the tourtle and all that kind
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: of stuff. But like like an anti inflammatory is are
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a problem and then that doesn't.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Mean I'll ever stop doing them because they get me
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: through the season, like they get me through playing football.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. But but so you started like kind
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of balancing that with like the peptides and stuff too,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: didn't you. Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like the BPC one seven because that helps
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: with like leaky gut I've talked about before it actually
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: introduced it talking on the EMRR podcast, I felt a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: little queasy talking about it because the way he was
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: explaining how he learned about it, seeing the needles and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: everything else. And I was kind of like, you know, dabbling,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: educating a little bit on it because you just don't
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: want people to.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Think like you're doing something, yeah for sure.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like having the peptides with it as well
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to help with the leaky gut and anything that those
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: anti inflammatories can cause, like in your gut lining, because
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: that's essentially what happens is it tears up your insides right,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: like the bleeding that goes on inside. Like it sounds
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: way worse than I feel like it actually, you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to make people think
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: we're dying the inside out, but you know, it destroys
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: your gut a little bit, Yeah for sure. Just yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I'm full, you know, I'll be on anti inflammatories, Like
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: anytime you're about to play, like toward ALL, Like yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you're trying to get toward ALL. Like you know a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: guys who you know, I knew, dudees wh would take
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: like two toward ALL before a game started, and then
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: another one at halftime.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: For sure. I mean they hand them to you at halftime. Yeah, Yeah,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that stuff will never stop.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: They'll they'll make it look better as they should like,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, like you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: if you're if you're if you're playing, and you're trying
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to continue to play and make the team and and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: put out good tape and good film, like.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, throw it in my fucking system. Deal, well, well
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: scrape me off the field, bro, yeah, which is which
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: is the vibe. But like so like, but what caught
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: up to me with that blood condition too, is they
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: wouldn't give me any anti inflammatories because like, because I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: already have thin blood, they don't want that. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: so I didn't get that luxury.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: So like I was just so you're out there natural
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: on that you're white, already behind the eight ball, just
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: out there like just being cut everywhere in the Canadian League,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the arena team, fucking finally getting your shot, and you
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: can't even get on the you can't even get on
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the stuff that makes you feel good.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah No, they couldn't even do like p RP on
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: me and stuff like that. So I was always doing
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: stem cells whenever I needed it and that kind of
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: things for those injuries.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: So are you always like checking your blood work like
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: doing yeah, decent amount like I mean, I do it
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: kind of quarterly anyway, for my yeah, for my hormone
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: levels and like my vitamin deficiencies to like just make
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: sure I'm balanced and that kind of thing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: But like yeah, they always do a CBC on me,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: which just like checks like red white and your platelets
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and that kind of thing, and mine's mine stay low.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But like but the crazy thing, like I think it
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: was kind of like fade or whatever. But the once
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that the Texans found out my second year, like obviously
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't tell them about it once they signed me, right,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: but in the second year, right.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, but going into the second year is when
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you've led the NFL and special teams tackles.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Now you're going into the second with the Texans. Yeah,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and like trying to establish myself as like a niche player,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and like so I had like rapes down there. That's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like saying, we need like special teams, guys, we need
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: somebody to take some ownership of special teams street rats yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gritty yeah, yeah, And so like that that was my
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: niche Like that's what like I did that like wholeheartedly,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever you do, be good at it. Like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that was my like that was my thing down there initially.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But like so they find the blood the blood condition,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and but like like literally like the world renowned specialists
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and and my blood condition is based in that massive
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: medical compound in Houston. So I go over there and
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: he like he's doing all these like he's doing uh
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: like organ imaging and things like that, and but then
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: he like breaks down my blood to like a whole
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: other level than all these other blood tests were doing.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: He goes, actually, like you have blood playlists are just
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: crazy small, like your your spleen beats him up, but
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you still have blood playlists. And he goes, I used
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to tell people with I t P that you like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you can't play football or ride motorcycles and that kind
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of thing, but now it's gotta tell him you can
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: only not ride motorcycles because now we got at high level. Yeah,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: so so that was cool. But anyways, but yeah, so
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: did four years down in in Houston and that and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that was the wrap. And I've been I've been trying
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to knock on doors and adapt, oh by any means necessary,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: your boys taking up long snapping, I'm doing anything and else. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and we'll we'll get you a video to block. It's
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a show. To show the show a little bit. Now,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: come on, now you got to get the baby. I'll
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: take god, I can get.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: So you you were you were with Houston before we
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: get there. You were with Houston for four years. Yep, okay,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. Yeah what year did you become the captain?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Uh? Not till my last year. Technically we don't really
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: have like consistent captains the first couple of years.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Would you say that's one of your better Like like
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: achievements are, oh, no doubt your favorite awards accomplished?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, Like just uh being a captain
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in general, Like I think everybody takes leadership differently too,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Like you don't like you can be a leader, you
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: don't have to be a captain and that kind of
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: thing too. But no, like I mean just to go
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: like I want there's I wasn't supposed to be an
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: NFL anyways, Like I wasn't supposed to get out of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the arena the league, Like I want like three or
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: four people get out of the CFL every year like
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I just beat the odds everywhere,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and like that's where like the chasing Edges mindset comes in.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Like once I knew I could play, every time I
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: got cut, I found three for four new things to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: take on and learn and add to the add to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the my ability or like my tool belt or whatever. Event.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Actually they stacked up and got got me the opportunity,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So I think I enjoyed it like like I I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: was grateful for the opportunity a little more than other
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: guys because I went through went the scenic route with it. Yeah. Yeah,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: after your four years?
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: What year?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: What year was your last? The league? You you're on
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You've been out for one full year now two years, dude, Yeah,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I've been out for a minute.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: So you're going on your this is this will be
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: the third season coming up.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's been it's been. It's been. It's
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: been a minute.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: So I did so sh it flies because I remember
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I was hanging in Vandy when you came through Vandy
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and we were both fucking on the couch.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the boys are still eating the boys training.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Brian, it came to did you come to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the tailgate one of those bus and tailgates?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you guys are wrapping up.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I got we had just finished because he was we
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: were hanging out. We did like, you know, some fat
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: arm like like an armwork out with little dabber.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But man, it's been a couple of years, but you
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: are now trying to get back in through long snapping.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Explain the long snapping route.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Well, so I always been like a backup long snapper.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: So like my high school d C he had like
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a couple of coffee with some NFL teams as a snapper,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: so he taught all of us in high school how
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to snap. So I was the backup at Northwestern. Oh yeah,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: but come on, I love it, but we need to
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: get updated tapes. But uh, that's not the that's not
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the table on everybody to check. But anyway, we'll have
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the right straight. But so, actually, up in the CFL,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: uh our long snapper had an a c joint, So
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I snapped for four games in the CFL, and then
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in Houston, uh John Weeks had a hamstring one of
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the preseason games, so I snapped for a preseason game.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So I've always kind of been the emergency guy. Has
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: been like a back Yeah, I mean like it adds
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: value like oh the kids, uh hustle linebacker. And then
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he also can be our emergency snapper. Maybe that's like
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the breaking point to keep me on a roster. So
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, for sure.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: People always make those little side comments say hey, you
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: really want to play in the league and last in
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the league, like pick up long snap.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Oh for sure, you got these PUDs that will be
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: long snappers.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: You know, no disrespect to the long snappers, but you'd
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: be having guys run down the field after snapping the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: ball to go on punt. It's just like, all right,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you get the punter and the long snapper. They don't
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: necessarily count. There's nine guys a block on the field.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then so like that's where like Luke Rhoades
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: with Indy is a linebacker, uh, converted long snapper or whatever,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and he like he's been eating I think he was
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: All Pro last year. And so like the special teams
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: coach with the Texans was part of that transition. So
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: like that's one of the contacts. And then I know
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of special teams coaches around that I'm sending
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: tape to and that kind of thing. Playing So you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: back to the to the grind, to the emails.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: You're back to the emails. Fucking a I'm a dog. Yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: check the snap tape.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Check the tape. Yeah. So I'll match my physical fitness
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: against any long snapper in the league any day of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the week. So yeah, I love that. Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And if you do, like, I don't see why you
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: potentially wouldn't get a shot because you can actually cover
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: But it's it is a crazy skill, like the mastery
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: of like hitting the hip every time online.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm not saying anybody can snap into account watching
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: your your tape, Like I mean, if you continue to
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: work on this, like why wouldn't.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what I'm hoping. That's what the
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: boys having to Uh dude, you know, do you know
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I kicked off in the game too? No way. Yeah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: So this is a crazy this is a this is
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a crazy freaking story too. So we're who were going
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: going against the Vikings. This was uh Iso Larry Izzo
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: was my special teams coach. It was his first year
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and we're playing the Vikings too. Liked Cordero Patterson, who's
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: obviously a dog, absolute dog with and so I'm the
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: R five and like we're trying to like playing like
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a on side kick. So like, hey, he's yeah. He's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: like the he is the R five. Can you come
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: across the ball and like chip shot it over there?
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so I kicked it. He goes, can
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you pooch it over there? Pooched it over there? He goes,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: can you kick it deep? I go, yeah, coach, I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: kicked in high school and so yeah, so this is
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: on a this yeah, this is on a Friday, just
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: like on like the like the fast So I so
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I kick off and I reached the end zone on
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: like just like my first kick, and he goes, do
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: it again. So I kick it to the end zone again.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And then he comes up to me after practice. He goes,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna run this by, coach, you want to kick
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: off on Sunday? I go, hell, yeah, let's go. And
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: then so he's hyped me up because, uh, Wes Welker
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: kicked off for a few games back ons with the Dolphins.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: He goes, dude, Wes had three tackles a game. He goes,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you just get a rover play linebacker. After the first
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: wave of guys, I was like, all right, let's go.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And so then it comes this is where it gets crazy,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: where now it comes to game day I'm super pumped,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, coach, should I go out
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and warm up? Like that kind of thing is now
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like you didn't want them practice were good, like this
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: is a surprise, like we're like and like so he's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: like scheme and he's like he's he's he's a little
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: scatterbrain me. He's the he's the man. Like he's like
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a player's coach once you like, once you cover and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: playing fast. He's a stud coach. I don't want to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: dog on him at all. But he, uh, he goes here,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I got it. He goes, well, we'll set up a
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: ball as you guys run out to uh run out
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: for the start of the game. You're gonna warm up kick,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: then ball hit somewhere and they'll know where it came from.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, coach, that's ridiculous. I'm not doing that,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: but like but that's ride. But so anyway, so first kickoff,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I kind of I didn't. I didn't kick it great,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: but it like like goes crazy, lands on like the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: end line and we tack them inside the twenty so
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and and then the the second kickoff, he goes, he goes,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: you can pooch it right, like he was a directional kick.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, coach the first team, mostake can
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: make it rain out here? Yeah, And uh so, so
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I go to put the ball wherever you want. But
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: so I pooch kick it and like it lands on
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like I think it's like the eight nine yard line
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: with some height to it like a pro. And but
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I tear my quad on the second kick and so
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I like limp downing like swinging your leg the kick. Yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: on that lockout, I popped my rectus memeris that muscle
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: on the top. Oh, So I popped my quad and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: uh so I'm out for like four or five weeks.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: So that that was that was a tough injury to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: come back from because it's tough, like they're like the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: only people that hurt this muscle are like Olympic sprinters
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and kickers. I let's sell. Yeah. So that's that's my
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: kicking story. So I've I've done the special teams gig
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: for so I'm for the brand. I'm a Pat McAfee guy.
• 42:12
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• 42:26
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• 42:33
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• 42:36
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• 42:39
  Speaker 6: sign me up for that. I don't think there's anything
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: else out there like it. It's refreshing, it's bold, it's
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: pretty balanced flavors, the fruit in it real quick.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Ooh, that's hey, that's a good point. JP.
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: It is the Chevy Silverado uh of a whiskey slash,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: seltzer cocktail.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: And a can eight percent. Boom. There you go.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: It's bold, refreshing, grit and determination all the same thing.
• 43:11
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• 43:19
  Speaker 6: the BlackBerry lemon fizz is good in this session. Citrus
• 43:23
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  Speaker 6: put it on the third on the list, but still
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• 43:41
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• 43:45
  Speaker 6: you one of these, you know eight percent it's football season.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Go ahead and let loose a little camp fire, you know,
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: out on the boat, those of you that are in
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: warm weather.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, back to the episode love that Ship. Yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: there's there's a bunch of have.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You You don't say any teams, but have you had
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: any success showing anybody your long snapping tape?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I had one. I had one. Workout said the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: skills there just needs a little more. Fine, So you've
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: had to work out. I've had to work out. Yeah,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: let's fucking go yeah for the boys. Yeah, So how
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: do you feel like? What? Like? What what is your head?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Tel you? Because what I'm like, what I'm thinking about
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: is all right, if I've been out of the league
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: for two years? Yeah, do you think you think it's dead? Yeah?
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to think, all right, do I need to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: start putting my energy in my focus and you know
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the stuff off the field. Do I need to just
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: fucking put football to bed and go all in with
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: this stuff and stop hanging on at the dream like, Hey,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get back into the league.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Like, what's what's going on through your head now? Like
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: what's in your headspace now?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: For sure? Like and and I've tried to put football
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: to sleep a few times. I uh, I do actually,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: so actually we left the league out. I've been in
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: five leagues. I went to the XFL.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Oh that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Was the best. Do you have that video? What video
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: where I remember you?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Because you got signed and you practiced and you did
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: an interview and what did you say? You're like, yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just ready to, you know, bust a couple of
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: heads and put some tape back up.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm coming back. I said something like there's an.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Interview with the XFL and it's like an XFL fashion interview.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: He's like, you know, I'm just ready to like bust
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: some heads and get back up on the field. I
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: might be hyping it up too.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Much, but it was something along those lines. It was
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: something greaty. Now that's XBT, which is another whole different
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: type of training. I got I got it somewhere on
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: my Twitter or something. I'll get it cued up for you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: And then you say that interview and then it all
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: the XFL goes a ship.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Well, so like it was, it was in full XFL
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: fashion too. I was gonna start my first game because
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the starting linebacker before that threw a massive right hook
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: at the running back, so he was suspended for the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: first half. So just a ship sho. But so you
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: show up and then like so we're we're like heading
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: to the bus to go play New York and Trump
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: shuts everything down and so then the league folds and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: so I steal tape from that and send like the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: practice tape out whatever that look like like I've sent
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: out some ridiculous tape over the years.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I love the fucking commendment. You're sitting practice tape out?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, I need something like the big Oh dude,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I have this whole other agent story because I flipped agents.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Before you get into that, you said you tried five
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: other leagues since the no I've been in five leagues.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this other day, ARENA, UFL, CFL, NFL, XFL,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like there's like, what I just need Mexico to have
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: open up a league. Now go down there too, Like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: fuck dude, yeah, I mean it's like a fucking movie.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You can make a movie out of that story.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: We might need to cut that out. We might need
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to edit this out and do our own thing. Just
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: getting the tank, just getting the shark thing to think tank.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: If Mark Wahlber can have Invincible, Yeah, you know what
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, we can. We can create some heat. Now,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: what actor is gonna play me?
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: You?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Uh? Fuck the way you're hanging on the way you
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: still doing it like you're a shape.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Fucking look at you, hey, Sean, as I say, look
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: at you, drop a picture or drop a photo of
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: its Instagram like when I say that for the fucking thing.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, who would you want to play you? If
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: you could, if you could have anybody play you?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, right right mcconaughe would be tight. I'll
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: take I'll take Jason Momo with the long hair. Yeah.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Some people try to tell me I look like the
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: other Hemnsworth brother at one point when I had shorter
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: hair Liam, Yeah, so that was trash. Yeah, I mean
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I'll take what. I'll take what I can get. Yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I think he pulls. So it's a good.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Who's the the person that people say that the actor
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that looks like me is the different Jurassic Park Guardians
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: of the Galaxy. Oh, Chris Pratt, do you guys think
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: that people think the people think no, and people think like, oh,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I can see it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I think more. Ryan Reynolds Garrett just smiles like this
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: motherfucker dude, h ship Chris Pratt a little bit. It's
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: just like it's just like the facial hair.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I take him. Listen, Yeah, I fucking
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: take Chris.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Goes punch for punch. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, it goes
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: punch for punch, takes a lot of jokes on to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the gin. Yeah, but no pause. It counts though what
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: we're talking about. Before, I don't know, we went on
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a nice tangent. Hey get that fucking like we were like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: do we still want this the saga of the Saga
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of Brian Peters to continue with the agent deal too?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: That was a whole ship show. Way is it now?
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: This is a new agent and like I wanted like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit bigger agent, a little more greasy guy
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: because I had no leverage because my last year I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: played hurt like I shot my ankle, I took thirty
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: shots to the ankle, my last season, like like the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: thirty shots of the ankle and what were we talking
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: about here quarters? Yeah, so like so I couldn't I
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: really couldn't like feel my foot like the last ten
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: games I played in the NFL, because like so they
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: misdiagnosed me. They said, like I tore my deltoid ligament
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: on the inside, that I could play. Three weeks later
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and we lost three linebackers and injury, so like I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: had a chance to start and play on defense, which
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I hadn't had in the NFL yet. So hustled back
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: for the Bronx this Broncos game. Hey, Braves, your coach
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: is Rabier. Braves has gone. This is twenty eighteen. He's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: here with the Titans now. So drug you in those
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: linebacker meetings? Oh for real, Yeah he's but uh oh
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: yeah dude, Uh I got some brave stories too. But
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: but anyways, uh we all do. Yeah, if you know brave,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: well you have a story, even if you're a stranger.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: You see them straight. Yeah story. But no, so like
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the deltoy's on the inside of the ankle, But all
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: my pain was on the outside, and I keep kept
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: telling my trainers my pain's on the outside, I have
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: no pain on the inside, like all, that's just the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: inflammation rolling over. So but I ended up so I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: ended up playing ten weeks on half an ankle that
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: once they got in for like eventually my calf tour
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: from overcomm stating for my ankle and I got they
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: got in for surgery, and I had this condra lesion.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I had this cartilage torn off the bone, and so
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I was playing with that the whole damn time. But
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: but anyway, so shoot quarter.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Zone Yeah, which is dumb as ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, terrible. Yeah,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: this is a terrible just a band aid. Yeah, exact
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: was like the worst thing you can do.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like I'm getting stem cells going into
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the PRP and that kind of thing. But anyways, so
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: like I knew I had no leverage, like like like
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I'm coming off my worst season, Like you know, you
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: can't play special teams if you don't have one hundred
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: percent in the tank, like like I hadn't. I was
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: running like ninety percent of top speed ninety five whatever,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: But you get buried if you don't have top speed agility.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: So I didn't put out a good tape regardless of point. Yeah, well,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: let me tell my story. Yeah, that's the story I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: tell myself. It's not like you need insane top speed
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: but example right, yeah, but but anyways, Uh, so I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: switched agents I wanted, like because the last deal I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: got from my last one year deal, I wasn't ecstatic
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: about it, and so I was like, all right, I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: need someone more contacts this time around and try and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: get deals. So this guy sold me I like I
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: had met him through one of my uh Northwestern buddies
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and probably my least favorite human. So I'm gonna try
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and like temper myself a little bit. But so he
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: tells a new agent. This new agent, so he tells
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: me all these things like he can do for me,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: gives me a timeline for like when we think we're
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: gonna get signed, what conversation's gonna have, And so I
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: hold him accountable to these things like hey, like Combine's over,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: like where are your conversations at? And he's like he's
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: like saying like Tennessee and other things where like like
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: like I didn't think Braves was a massive fan of me,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: so I didn't think he was gonna try and get
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: me there or anything like that. So I was like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: let's work on other avenues. And then like I'm so,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I call him like two three times a week. Sometimes
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, what's up, Like anything happening, like not
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: big conversations, and then eventually, like one of his other
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: guys fires him, and I was cool with him. So
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: we were talking and then at one point, like I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, what's going on? Like like you said,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: like we'd have like opportunities by now, and I got
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to give him a lot to work with this so
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: like in hindsight, maybe I wasn't the best client either.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: But he goes, if you want to fire me, to
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: go ahead, and I go, I'm not trying to fire you.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And so
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: we have this conversation. It was a real rough conversation,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: and then like the next time we talked, I ended
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: up firing him and going back to my old agent.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: But dude, this conversation with this agent was out of control.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: He goes. He goes, you're a northwestern guy, like you're
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: supposed to be high character. Everybody's gonna know you have
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: terrible character now now that you fired me. He goes,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna know forever, Like he goes, if you become
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the CEO of FedEx, he goes, I'm gonna know that
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: you still have You're a terrible person, you have terrible character,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: like just lays into me. I was like, listen, dude,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to like make this a thing
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: like if like you've obviously worked for me, I'll pay
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you for your time and that kind of thing. He goes,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: he was, he was, I don't want your money, he goes.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: He goes, I've been in this league or this business
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: for fourteen years. You're gonna need the money more than
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I do. Blah blah blah. Just goes him. This day,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's still agent this day. Name ed was Lusky
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: It let's fucking go. Yeah. So but anyways, that was yeah,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that was no no blano. But anyways, switch back to
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: my agent, got some calls, got got a few workouts
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: worked out for the Saints, like, but things didn't things
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: didn't work out.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I think we were at the same workout. Oh wait, no, no, no,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: you worked out before or after me. Uh you might
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: have worked out after. I think you worked out after Yeah,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: this is like week three. Yeah, yeah, maybe maybe for
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: your spot oh I think. Yeah, I forget who the
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: linebackers were because I know when I got hurt. That's
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: when the Saints I traded for Keiko Alonso. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And then you were there with like who was Mark Barron?
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Was Mason Foster there? No, I never made the team,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: like I just worked.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying at the workout. No, no, no, no, this
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: is uh Ray Ray Armstrong was there? Ray Ray Armstrong?
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: That's right, yes, right then he then he signed on it.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: It was like week two or three or something. Yeah. Yeah,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, so that's my last juicy stories you got
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: about Billy Oh Billy Oh oh wow, that's an you
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: can tell. I mean, there's not like a it's not
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: like there's not like crazy stories by any means. Like
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: he mean, he he's a he's a tough coach, but
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: he's like he's fair in the same sense like where
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: he just always I think, got wired up to play
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: the Patriots and that kind of thing. That's where my
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: favorite stories are, Like when he'd like when he'd come
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: in and like try and impersonate Tom Brady's cadence, like
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: he'd he'd come in like on the stage of the
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: defensive room, and start goes listen, Tom does all this stuff.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: He goes when he points, he doesn't means he's pointing sometimes,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and like he goes through like all Tom's cadences and
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: just goes, ham, so did he got wired up for
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the Patriots games? And that kind of thing. But other
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: than that, there's not too many crazy stories like me
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and him weren't crazy tight or anything like that. Like
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I was his guy early because I was productive and
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: then my production dropped off. I wasn't this guy, which
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: is what have you done for me lately? Kind of league?
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but no, he don't.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Want to Yeah, you don't want to give a little juice,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: a little juicy story.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: There's no juicy. Oh you're you're referred to the other
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: story where he's No, I'm just like any anybody that's like, uh,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: played for coach O.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: It's it's not been like favorable outlooks on the culture
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: and the organization and stuff like that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna say organization the culture of Billy.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he'd I mean, he'd like he like he
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: has his crazy one line standard and if you're off that,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like if you don't practice enough, if you like all
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: these kind of things like you're not like you're not
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: his guy, and he'll he'll single you out in meetings
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. But he like he progressed
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: as a coach fantastic while I was there too, Like
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: we got there and like you know how like in
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: meetings like we're like, I don't know if they do
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: this anyway coach.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Essentially you get mad if you're not like one of
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: his guys. Who gets who'll get like praise or.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Get It's pretty clear clear cut with him, Like he
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: like he doesn't bullshit a lot, like you know, if
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: he's your guy, you're his guy or not. Yeah, that
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: kind of thing. And he because he demands like a
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: standard up performance and like guys that like so like
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: initially when I got there, like I think it was
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: like Thursday or Friday, Like he has his like hour
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: long quiz, so he's quizzing everybody in the room special teams, offense,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: defense on different scenarios, different jobs and that kind of
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: stuff like who's the like best petch teams, like who's
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the punter And if a guy doesn't know, he just
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: he'll keep burying you until you get some right or
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: peters what's the fucking right answer or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: and then but like we we we had some we
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: had we had some funny ass bits about it too though,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: because he like he also like gauged the level of
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: difficulty on the question to the person he was asking
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the question too. It's super funny. So be like cush
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: what's their top three runs? And like whatever, pro I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: write whatever. All these things then like Jayalen Jalen, we
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: got like if if if you if you run out
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and he throws your ball, do you do you do
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you catch it? Yeah? You catch it? Just goes him
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: But does that a little bit? I mean they might
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: get it from like Belichick. Yeah, like the team keys,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: the understanding your person.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: It's a great tool for accountability. Like I'm just trying
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: to tell the stories. But like he like but like
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: all that stuff is necessary. And then like I also
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: think like it like if you can't like if you
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: know the information, you can't relay it in a meeting,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna be a liability, right, So like if
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: if you don't know again, like say they switch out
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: a wing or a punter, like all those things, like
• 56:59
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  Speaker 1: Yeah so you got any uh you you played with Cush?
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Did you play with Cush?
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: Cause he's your boy. Cush has like a legend out there,
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: He's like, there's like this legend about Cush because he's
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: obviously got popped a couple of times.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Like he's got the bloody photos, he's got this, he's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: got this about Yeah. Yeah, yeah, what's what's Cush like?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Cush is the man, dude. He I always like, I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: always respect him just because he like guys that like
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: train their ass off in the gym, Like I always
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: kind of gravitated towards too. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: But so like like when he was on sc with
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: mal A Luga and all those boys and Taylor Mays.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: But who's the linebacker course Clay Matthews, Yeah, mal A Luga,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Brian Cushing. There's another one who played for the Bengals
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: for a long time. Yeah, not not Maluga. Another one
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: that was like right before mal Luga, not the Bengals
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: a long time, but it was, uh, we'll figure it out, but.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Anyway, but no, your coach like yeah, but like so
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: like people see like the fac like it's not a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: facaet he puts on. Like the dude's tough as nails.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: He like like he like if he's there, he's on,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: like he like he he it's dude, he's a fucking
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: warrior like so he like and like if once you
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: like get to know him and get into his mindset
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: to like the dude treats a football game like a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: street fight, like that's what he wires his brain. Four
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: crazy New Jersey best Oh crazy New and this dude, Uh,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: there's so many stupid nuanced stories to cush too, where
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: like I don't think he timed it perfectly, but he
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: did it a lot where I think he timed it.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: So every time we had the team prayer in the shower,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Coush would be in there puking his guts out. He
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: peaks for every game, just puking his guts out, and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: then like he'd be like, screw Peters. I threw up
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: the ko Q twelve pill. The whole pill Like yeah,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: but he's the man he but did he like he
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: like that's like that's his deal. Like he's physically plays tough,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: like he gets the job done. He's uh like yeah
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: he has this like I mean like the legend and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: like he's like this crazy strong He's an incredibly strong human. Yeah,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: but he like he's he's earned all that, like like
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: he's he's very respected. Oh yeah, he's fully respected. But
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: yeah he's dude, I mean look at him, dude, look shah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: The prayer showers are the best.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like they'd be like all right, you know, you
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: got all the rap music playing, like the murdering songs, this,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: that and the other. It's like all right, prayer and
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: shower and the music goes down and it pretty much
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: essentially everybody gets stuff there you go. It's just I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's just prayer in the shower. It's where
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I have no clue.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Why is it the show just the only empty space
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: because like not everybody comes to prayer either.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not everybody goes to prayer. So if you're just
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: doing the locker room around people who don't go to prayer, yeah,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: and I'll just be like yelling them knock yourself. Hey,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: tell the prayer where Jesus woofs their ass. They're going
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: back there.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Then you get done with the prayer, and then you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: come back and then you turn the rat music back up.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: You're ready to go out there and murder somebody. You go,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: put the women and children to sleep, the sins come. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to get right with God.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about mind strong and we'll get into because
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you're also trying to get into the podcast or with
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Chasing Edges. But talk a little bit about mind strong
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: and your your journey with this whole breath work, performance,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: human performance, all that stuff.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. It uh low key. So it started
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: that when I was down in Houston like twenty sixteen,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: like the team was paying for us do the sensory
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: deprivation chamber like the float tanks, and I was in
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: there and I was just bullshit like trying to hold
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: my breath as long as I could. So I get
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: out and google how do you hold your breath longer?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And it was like free diving and whim Hoff method.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: So I started going deep into those and I like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I went from like holding my breath from a minute
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: to like three minutes, three and a half, and I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: started like getting really good at holding my breath for
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: whatever damn reason. Yeah. And then my buddy at the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: same time, Harvey Martin, was up in Minnesota, and he
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: was going through the wim Hoff stuff, like he's like
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: transitioning out of the baseball world, and it was like
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: kind of picking him up emotionally, like like his physiology everything.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: He was feeling good and like it became like a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: tool for him to like get through what he was
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: going through. And then he started applying it to sport
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: up there. He was a pitching coach, so he started
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: applying it to baseball players. But like, so at the time,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I was doing the free diving and the wim Hoff stuff.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: And that's when Luke Richardson came into Houston, the strength
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: coach took over for Yeah. So and so we're down
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: there and he comes down and he assesses the team
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and realized and he comes to conclue that we're unfit
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: to run. He does like the FMS scores and like
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: the nord Board hamstring strength tests and stuff and says like,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: you guys aren't fit to run yet. We need to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: work on firing pattern, trigger pointing, glute strength, all these things.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: So and he gave the whole state of union, like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: nobody runs outside of here. If you run, I don't
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: care if you're JJ Watt, DeAndre Hopkins. Nobody runs until
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I say so. And so nobody's running. And but I'm
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: doing this breath work stuff at the time, just like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: staying busy. And then I kind of found this XPT
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: pool training and stuff at the same time. And so
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: then once we do start running a month later, we
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: do like a warm up run one day and the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: next day we run conditioning and dude, I'm like, my
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: conditioning levels still nails, Like I mean, you're not running.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: This is you not running? Yeah, without running, And we
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: walk into our first conditioning day and like I'm out
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: running all linebackers and I'm running with the DB's like
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I'm crushing some of the DB's and I'm like there's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: something like there's something here. How long were you not
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: running again, Like explain this about a month?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so like a month no running, you're just
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: doing breath work.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're doing breath Then we're doing strength training
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: in the gym, like we're doing hamstring eccentrics, we're doing
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: glute activations as far as no, I'm not doing anything
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: besides like my breath work stuff, and so I all right,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: there's something here. And then that's when like me and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: my buddy Harvey started to put together this mind Strong
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: project to where like how can breath improve sports performance?
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: And so like people in the world then where this
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: dude Brian McKenzie, Lard Hamilton and his wife Gabby Gabby Reese,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: and like there's not a lot of people in this
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: breath world. So like it's kind of like we're starting
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: to figure out that this is like a missing pillar
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: of human performance, right and so and now then eventually,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: like as you get into the weeds of it, it's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: not human performance just like being a good, clean human
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: being in the first place. You start learning about mouth
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: breathing and versus nasal breathing and what actual like calm
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: breathing does to the mind. And then like how like
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: if you are a mouth breather, how you're more like
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: more likely to like so I know you take your mouth,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so like you're more likely for sleep apnea
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: and stress and anxiety and all these things. And so
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: we start asking why, and like these mentors in the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the realm, we're able to answer these questions for us.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: And eventually we did our own research, so you got
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: like the auction advantage, you got all these books in
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: the art of it too, and then we started demoing
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: all these meditation methods and stuff, and eventually it became
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: this human performance company where we're teaching breath work to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: teach mental skills. So not only are we improving your
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: performance and your VO two max and stuff with breath work. Now,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: like if you can control your breath and your physiology,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: you can actually control your psychology. And they're tied very
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: closely together. So like kind of our stance on it
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: is like psychologies unresolved physiology, like your heart rate and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: your respiratory rate tell the brain that you're safe and
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: you can solve problems. If not, you regress and you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: can't solve problems. And I think that shows up in
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: football too, like guys that are too amped up, or
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: like young kids that can't like they know what to do,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: they know how to play cover three, they know how
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: to play man to man all day, but they freak
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: out like they're probably not breathing and they're not calm.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: They don't understand that, like the breath is a tool
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: to down regulate and focus and things like that. So
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: we've created this company around those skills and so we
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: can improve your athletic performance and then we can like
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: help you get control of your sports so you're a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: sports I college and your mental skills too. So it's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: been it's been a cool little little journey. We started
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: that like back in twenty fifteen loosely, and then it
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: like it built as we got deeper and deeper into
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: breath work.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: And now you guys are getting into professional sports, right, Yeah,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: so we're starting to get to the level of working
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: with professional athletes.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we we were the first breath coach and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: the MLB we have a contract as the breast specialists
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: for the San Francisco Giants, who are number one right now.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the Giants, to the boys. And then
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: where we got a bunch of NHL guys. They've they've
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: gravitated towards it because I mean VO two max is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: like the standard for hockey because their wark capacity is
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: so high. Yeah, so we have about like six seven
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: NHL guys that work with us pretty regularly. Definitely do
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: like the full off season program and that kind of thing.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: And then we got a few pitchers around the MLB too.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's grown and it's got some traction
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: and people like the cool thing about is you can
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: feel it, Like like we went through a little bit
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: of something this morning, me and you, the hypoxic work.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: But like it's just like it's it's a tool.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Right if I'm an athlete talking to you or just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: anybody anybody listening to, Like, what's a simple explanation about
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: why people should be curious about breathing correctly? Yeah, I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: mean in breath performance and.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like like you can start from the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: like the principles of it, like like why should you
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: breathe them through your mouth versus your nose? And when
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: like like if you're fighting somebody, yeah, breathing through your
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: mouth all day, Like the primary benefit of breathing through
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: your mouth is to get more auction in and out.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: But now you start talking about this how you breathe
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: throughout the day, like that that compounds more than anything,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: like if your mouth breathing all day, Like, so the mouth,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: the mouth is digestive, the nose is respiratory. Like that's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: how atomic anatomically worked build That's how God built us.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: So if you're breeding through your nose, the air is
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: getting cleaned, humidified, you have the ability to access nitric oxide.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: You breed into the belly, which is the bottom of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: the lung. You strengthen the diaphragm and the pelvic floor.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: If you're breathing, breathing properly through your nose and so like,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: now that's spine alignment and stability. Like there's a bunch
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: of like fundamental benefits to just properly breathing, good breathing mechanics.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And then now if you want to be an athlete
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: and you want to be a dog, now you like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: address your relationship with oxygen and carbon dioxide. Like it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're four hundred pounds or you're one
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. I put an oximiner on your
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: finger that reads the auctionyen in your blood. It's going
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: to be ninety five to ninety nine unless you're you
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: have some lung disorder. So the problem is not having oxygen,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: it's how well you use it. So that now becomes
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: your relationship with co too, Like the byproduct of what
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: you burn. Like after you burn, the auction becomes combon
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: to oxide, you achale it out and you can you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: can control and train that tolerance, so longer you can
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: control higher levels of COE too. The longer you can work,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: and your VO two mex goes up, and now you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: can run longer. And like how like me and like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: my buddy Nate, after like that you keep the you
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: keep the dark place away from you longer like you can.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: It's just like that mental giant like or that mental
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: demon that comes on your shoulder like no, you're too
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: tired and that kind of stuff, like you can keep
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: that farther away. Yeah, So like that's kind of how
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: we view it, right.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Because I'm asking from a stance too, if like if
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: if an athlete's like listening, like if you're just sitting
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: there like just some meat hit like okay, why would
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I incorporate breathing into my stuff?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: That's why I ask, Like a simple example that could
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: make somebody think and be like yo, I should get
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: curious about this.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, going into performance, Yeah, it's just like even simpler.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Look at it as MMA fighting, Like you see a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: guy you can tell when somebody's dead tired because their
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: mouth breathing heavy body language shows it. Like the guys
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: that are cool, calm and collected and bringing to their
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: nose like they last longer. Like the goals to breathe
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: less that the guy who breathes the least is probably
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: gonna win. Like if you can't breathe, you can't fight.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: If you can't get auction to the muscle, you can't fight,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Like if you can't run like your if your legs
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: are dead, can't fight. And you can train your tolerance
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: to that level of CO two that you build up
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: in your legs or your arms or whatever body part
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you're using for your sport. So it's and it's something
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: you can do without wearing a tear in the body.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Like you don't have to go bang and run one
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: hundred yard sprints all the time. Work in some breath work,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: get comfortable with higher levels of CO two with XO
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: and things like that, and you can improve your aerublic capacity.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: It's been proven time and time and again. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: it's just a tool. Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: For me, the book that you put me on was
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the oxygen advantage. If somebody was a start. Would that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: be the book you would put everybody on to start
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: looking getting curious outside of obviously following at mindstream project
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: and shouting out the minestron project.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: You guys actually have an app too, right, Yeah, we
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: were also with this Kodjabi app. But yeah, so you
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: can access and buy membership for monthly like breath coaching
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: and some mobility work and primal stuff.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: So if people were interested in getting involved with the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Minestrong project, where would they go?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: They would download the Kujabi app. Yeah, so they'll just
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: go to the website and signs you up and it
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: gives you all the instruct go to your guys' websit
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  Speaker 1: dot com and they'll send it take you care, take
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: care of you from there.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but but some practical things you can do
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: reading oxygen advantage.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like that's the place to start, because it
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: breaks down like the oxygen co two relation about it, Yeah,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: the bore effect and then as far as like the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: taping your mouth at night. Like now, like if you
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: look at it practically, like every breath helps or hurts you,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: so like if you breathe them through your mouth, that
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: like the mouth breathing trigger is fighting fighting fighting flight
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: is sympathetic nervous system. Nervous system triggers parasympathetic rest and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: digest So do you want to tell yourself all night
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: while you're sleeping that you're safe or that you're fighting, Like,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: if you're fighting, you're not gonna get into that deep
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: sleep consistently. Yeah.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I know for me when I started taping my mouth
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: shut due to you putting me on the auction page
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: and tell me about it.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Shut out the boy, But for me, like where my whoop?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Where my whoop?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: When I go to sleep and everything, getting my like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: getting all the data back, the stats back the night after,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: my respiratory weight rate would go way down, my.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Restling hardweight rate would go way down.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I like I'd be in the fifties in the minute
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I started taping, I started getting in the high forties,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: and then after a.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Few weeks I'm done in like the low forties. Savage.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Obviously that goes with like workout routine and stuff like that,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: but this is something I'm consistently doing in anyway. So
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: just the benefits that I was quickly seeing from taping
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: my mouth shut at night and being conscious of the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: way I breathe throughout the day. Like I'll sit there
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: and driving my truck or I'm driving in the nice
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Chevy Silverado, and uh, I'll just notice how I'm breathing.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Like if my mind scrambled and I'm thinking about busting
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: a lot and I'm thinking about whatever my next workout
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: routine is, or juggling ball or just any of that stuff,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: I'll realize that my breasts are a little shorter, I'm
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: in my chest a little bit more. I'm actually breathing
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit more out of my mouth when I'm
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: thinking about a lot of stuff.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: My head's full of jargon, for sure.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: And when you sit there and slowly and you start
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: just being conscious about breathing through your nose, breathing, breathing
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: into your stomach, it is crazy how much how much
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: we're mouth breathers.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's but it's that first level of awareness
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: you get, like so like like right the first time
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: that I was at that conditioning day with the Texans,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I heard people breathing for the first time, and I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: knew I wasn't breathing that hard. So I was like,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm cool, Like this is like I'm about
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: to bury the Yeah yeah, and like that's weakness, like
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: and and fighters see the same thing. You see a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: guy dog tired, mouth breathing, like all right, blood in
• 1:14:02
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• 1:14:05
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• 1:14:17
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• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: He was nasal breathing because he got up swinging.
• 1:14:26
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  Speaker 2: Listening to any any of that stuff that he's talked about,
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  Speaker 2: does any of the boys have any questions about his
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: journey or any of that that breathing shit.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well just to comment, like, as y'all started talking
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: about it more, I started noticing myself.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about to just breathe through my nose.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: There you go, And then like five minutes later, I'm like,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, breath Well there's more resistance there
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: through the nose initially, but like also the nasal cavity
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: is like if you don't use it, you lose it things,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: So you have to keep sending stimulus there to open
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: up the nasal cavity. If your mouth breathing and a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: lot of things trigger mouth breeding. If you eat like shit,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: like your stomach is solving a problem, it needs more
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: auction to solve a problem. Like oxygen is an anti bacterial,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: anti viral too. It's just a lot of things compound
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: into it, and you can solve a lot of your
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: problems with your breath.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, I was gonna ask about these ice
• 1:17:35
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• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gid y up. Oh bro, this is my man.
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  Speaker 2: Brian will walk out into the wilderness frozen, whether he's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: in Alaska, Montana, anywhere up north. He'll find a laker
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: river nearby, frozen on top. He'll bring a shovel, he'll
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: bring a pick axe, he'll chop a hole into it,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: and you'll go and sit in this cold ass fucking yep.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's finny.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, the cold shit like look up cold shower benefits.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: That's small stuff. But this this, you do this shit,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, you're just on a completely different level
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: with this cold therapy.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, yeah, like yeah, for sure. So like
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: we like with mindstrong, we use it as a tool,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Like how can we put you in a stressful environment
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: and show you that breath work is a tool. So
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: like the first we'll put you in the ice, which
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: is like what we call that, like our stadium, like
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: a stadium with eighty thousand people with music bumping and you,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: responsibility and eyes on you, like attention. All those things
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: are stressors. So that's the only stress that we can
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: make similar to that. So we'll put you in there,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: and like a lot of people's first response is a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: short shut like that, and like that's a problem. That's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: not a tool, Like you're hurting yourself. So like we
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: we'll teach you again the relationship, how to dump CO
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: two so that the next breath, the auction gets in,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: calms the system gets to the cell. And so now
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: like the breasts a tool to beat the cold, to
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: beat the stress, and you can use that in a stadium,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: you can use that in the ice. You knew all
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: the things, but like it's just yeah, like if you
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: if you can't breathe an environment, you can't own the environment.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: If you can't breathe in a position you can't own
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: the positions the same in weightlifting and that kind of thing.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: But no, like the honestly, like the reason I love
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: the the ice so much is it's forced meditation for me. Like,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: like ice sucks every time. It doesn't matter how many
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: times I've done it that nobody wants. The hardest part
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: is like the thirty seconds before you get in that thing.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: You no question, I'll wake up, tell myself, I'm gonna
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: hit a cold shower the next morning, I'll wake up.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're start turning it up to that heat.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're fine when you get in though, Like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not the end of the world every time, like, but.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: For sure, but when you get in, you're little you know,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: you're a little cold, you're a little naked, you're a little.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Afraid, you know right when you.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Know, when you turn that when you turn that knob, dude,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: and that cold just hit you. Yeah, it's just but yeah,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: once you get past, yeah for sure.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: But like and like there's not a crazy soup and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: amount of benefits to the ice by itself because it's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: like a vaso constrictor and that kind of thing. But
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: like you get the uh, the focus and the awakeness
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: from the narrow up and nefferent hit and that kind
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: of thing. And it's it's also like it's like making
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: your bed, like it's something you don't want to do,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: but you should do it. Start shut yourself out with
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: some accomplishment, that kind of thing. But like, but like
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: the three minutes and the ice, especially in nature, just
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: like forced meditation, like I'm not anywhere else, I'm there.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm focusing on my breath and and it's chilling. Then
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: once you get out, like your your numb anyways, like
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: getting your legs and the cold type your legs numb
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: up and you don't feel anything after a minute anyways,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: So you'll get out from there and I'll do some
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: breath work after.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I get out of But I mean you're sitting in
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: their neck up, yeah, neck up, Like what kind of
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: benefit do you have from that cold water immersion?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: It's just more you know what I'm saying, you're kind
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: of you're.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: Kind of like just going over it, saying there's not
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of there's not tremendous benefit, but there is
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: in cold water.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah. Yeah, So obviously one the first
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: you control the breath. It's like it's an immune system booster,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: but like it's it's literally like again, like I just
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: call it forced meditation. Like but like so now if
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: you if you, if you want to get deeper into it,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know how deep you want to get to,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: like the cold chalk and heat chop proteins. But like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I primarily use ice now as a contrast on a
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: recovery day, gotcha, And then like I'll use it like
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: cold chower to wake up in a cold chower, to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: go to bed to get my body temperature down.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: What kind of recovery methods do you use, like with
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: hot cold cold? I do the sauna, So explain what?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah there, yeah, so like that's where you see some
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: crazy benefits and it's like it's a great flush recovery.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: But so you start three minutes in the cold, you
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: get a heavy sweat, try and get your heart right
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: up above one twenty in the sauna, get a good
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: sweat gone, another three minutes in the cold, you'll go
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: neck up.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: In the cold, right yep, every time, and then you'll
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: go straight from the cold, you'll get in the hot sauna.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: A traditional sauna are we talking in for it traditional sauna.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: They give a little hot.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Like two ten, and then you'll try to work up
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: get your heart rate up over one twenty. So for
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: how long do you get in the sauna?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: The saunas like it depends on the temperature, Like it's
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: two hundred, you can get you can be out in
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. If not, it bleeds on a little longer.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: And everybody's different too, everybody responds to the heat differently.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: So but so it's three rounds, so three three touches
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: of the ice. But the last round of the ice
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: is just uh usually just a dunk or like a
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: dunk and hold your breath underwater under the ice tub
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. Do you finish in the ice?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: You finish in the ice for recovery. But like the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: big thing there is like what people don't realize is
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: it's it turns into a workout. Like some of our
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: hockey guys will burn like seven to nine hundred calories
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: sit like going because usually the cycle takes around an hour.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: And these guys like like again, where you burn a
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: lot of your calories is your cardiovascular system and you
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: have all these little muscles on like the veins and
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: arteries that vaso constrict vasodilite heart rate gets up in
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: the heat. Then you get back in vaso constrict and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: you're working these little muscles and you end up burning.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Like it taxes your nervous system, but like you'll sleep
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: like a baby after it. It's phenomenal. And then then
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: you're also like you're killing weak cells like like the cold,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: like the cold shock proteins, heat chark proteins. Just start
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: becoming like a tougher human to kill. Yeah, yeah, a
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: tougher human to kill. I mean you get the juice flowing, right,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: but now there's yeah, but now there's like all these
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: life metaphors and all this like primal step back where
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: like we're not meant to live in ac We're not
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: supposed to go from seventy degrees in our house to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: our car to work to our car and home. Like
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: we have energy systems in our body to fight the
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: cold and the heat, but we don't use them anymore.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: So like where does that energy system go? Like some
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: people say it's like the autoimmune diseases, whatever the hell,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: but like that's all here's but like like it makes
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: you more comfortable in extreme environment, So why would you
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: not train yourself that way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Practically just to get this recovery method out there. Three
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: minutes in the ice neck up yep, fifteen minutes probably
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: around fifteen minutes in the sauna, three minutes again in
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: the ice neck up yep. Fifteen to twenty in the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: sauna again yep, and then you'll land what's just completely
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: immerging yourself to a breath hole under water, Just take
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: a dip fully in yep, and then you'll get out.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and dude, you'll like something like some people feel
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: high after like you like, it's just like a really
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: cool feeling. Dude, it's a you gotta feel it.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: The Ben Greenfield, his one would be uh, his one
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: was like fifteen minutes in the in the heat, five
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: minutes in the cold, fit in the basically three rounds
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: and you would end on a cold shower. Yeah, so similar,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. Yeah, and doing it in
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: training camp especially all like on an off day, bro,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you do feel incredible.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: All that Like that pump you're getting in your veins
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: and arteries and stuff, it like flushes out your soreness.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I got like I tweak my back dead lifting the
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: other day and like I'd hit my son and ice
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: and like it starts. There's a noticeable difference between before
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: and now. Noticeable. It's crazy, it does.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: It feels really good when like you know, you drop
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: when when we'll drop our stones and actually do the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: cold water submersion like for real, because sometimes you're just like, fuck,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not just trying to get I'm not trying to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: completely emerge myself underwater.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Because we'll like stand in the cold tub, like Taylor,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: we call ourselves like account of Bill buddies back in
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: like eighteen when we were on the Titans uh together
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: even this year too though before you know he had
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: his acl But you know, you go from the sauna.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: But in COVID this year the saunas were shut down
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: so you couldn't activate those facilities. But when we do it,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: you'd sit there and be in the sauna together and
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: then you'd be in the cold tub and you back, hey,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: are you gonna go under water? Yeah, like I don't know,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: not today man, And then you just emerge yourself down
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: in the cold water. You get in like the steam room.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: But you do you feel absolutely incredible? Yeah, do we
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: have anything else, And then you also touch on there's
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: been a banger pod?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: How long we went?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Uh, you're at an hour and twenty six minutes.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: Time flies when you're having fun, boy, I was gonna
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: you've been rolling.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask about so, you know, like chiropractors
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that, the like I guess you can
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: get your nose adjusted or you can open up your
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: your airways. Have you seen that done with like the balloon?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. I haven't done it myself, so
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I can't like.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: Are you not a chiropractor guy? The way you kind
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: of just chuckled right there.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: No, I'm you know chiropractice. I was just I was intrigued.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I was intrigued at the next step on that that conversation.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Now I've done more like the TMJ work where they
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: like adjust like the fashon around your jaw and like
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: inside your mouth and your tongue and stuff. That stuff
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I think works fantastically.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: But no, Taylor's alluded to doing something like that, like
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: stuff inside of his mouth and yeah, ship to where
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: he'll like move his hand like just do some like
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: uh just weird kind of ship.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like your fashion pattern starts in the mouth, so
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: like it's a good place to start. Then I have
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: my jaw obviously, so I constantly like just like kind
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: of RPR through my like my fashion, my neck and stuff.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: So like you just find a bunch of sore spots.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: But dude, when they get their fingers and your like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: they'll put gloves on the stubble when they get your
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: fingers and dig into your cheeks and stuff like that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: sounds it bites. But then like but then like you realize,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: like but like like like how often do you like
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: go through like grinding your teeth and like clenching or whatever.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: You don't really know, but like once they open that up,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: you're just like, oh wow, Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: When I was doing my uh that RPR stuff that
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: we've talked about, what does r PR stand for? By
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: the way, you know you're the leader, you're right now.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: But when I was getting assessed in r PR, I
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: was a jaw driver. You're like there's like a few
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: different drivers, and I was like a jaw driver. So
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: anything something happened, I'm like clenching at my jaw, but and.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: The dude would just rub The dude would be rubbing
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: my jaw out. That sounds real. No pause, but that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: shit hurts. Yes, that shit fucking hurts.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Blast?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: Sorry blashes threw up on the on the YouTube's he
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: threw up somebody?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about? That's adjustment you're talking about?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: That looks like a clean nose break.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: Cody Garbrant, he's a UFC fighter.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: Hey, where we hearing that? You get a speaker back here?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: What Yeah, they're hanging on your microphone. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: But Cody Garbrant, he's a UFC fighter. And uh, this
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: is kind of how I first learned about it on
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: uh on YouTube. He does this before any fight. He
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: just kind of opens up his airway with that uh,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: with that tool.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh fuck. I'm mentioned to see if he's holding
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: his breath while he does that, Like, how do how
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: do they keep the pressure there? Who is it? What's
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: his name?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: Cody Garbrant.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: He reached out to him, m dude, fly like asking questions.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's he's just putting like he was on
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: the Ultimate Fire.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: He putting.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: He's putting guys through it. Yeah, it's something that he
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: did before.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but but the point is, like that space in
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: the body is malleable, like you like you can improve it.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: That looks terrible, man, I know, it.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: Just got you so conscious of breathing and like touch
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: and touching sensitive spots on your jaw.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: There was a so was doctor Serrano.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: There was like like that that dog whistle sound, you
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, like depending like the supersonic sound
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I would get in my ear every now and then
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: it would just like come and go to where I'd
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: be like death for a second. I'd hear like the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: super sounding noise kind of come through my ear to
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: bring the sound back in my ear.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: And I was obviously nervous about it, like yeah, what
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: the fuck's going on?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: And wondering if there's like you know, the first thing
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: you think of as a full players like brain stuff
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: or like CTE and ship like that reaching out to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Serrano and he's talking, He's sending me videos like working
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: my jaw out and stuff, and I mean.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: It didn't work. It didn't work.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: It did work because I was this was happening probably
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: a few times a week, and it was kind of
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: starting scare me a little bit. And uh, you know,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: obviously doctor Serrouno, he's just a mad scientist. Yeah, went away,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: But this shit is crazy, Like all this stuff that
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking about. Hopefully people are still tuned
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: in and like juiced up about it. Like me, if
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing this kind of stuff on the podcast, I'm
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: so locked in. It's got me like reading whatever. Like
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: when I when we refer to oxygen advantage, like the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: shit's already bought. Like that's usually how like I work.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: If I hear something, I get super curious about it.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like ready to go all in on trying to
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: figure it out. Because like you with the podcast, you're
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: being called chasing edges, like you're finding these edges you're
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: trying to like chase and just be better. Yeah, you're
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: trying to, like, yo, that'll make this seems like it'll
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: make me a better athlete or perform better. Like I
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: need to fucking do it because that's like the one
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: percent I can get.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Better, yeah guaranteed, And I just want to like that.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Like like that got started back when I was like
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: in the arena ball is like like I need an
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: edge like it. So eventually I was like to keep
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: chasing edges and I found more things to improve on,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: and now I just want to know, like what all
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: these other athletes and doctors are doing just to optimize performance,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: because like I think, like competition like breeds this really
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: cool curiosity to be the best. Yeah, So like guys
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: are doing again, they're they're searching pep tides, They're doing
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: something like they're supplements, news, types of training. You got
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: the pool training. Now you see uh Atasanya, the the
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: UFC fighter doing the breath work and the yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: So you get guys just like pushing the edge of
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: performance and like but then like you got some guys
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: that just stick to these fundamentals, like they're like their
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: mental performances, like their ability and their wit and like
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: their work ethic keep them there. Like like I had
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Nate Ebner on as one of my first guests, and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: his mental framework is just ungodly when you say mental framework,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Like what do you mean, Like just how he approaches
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: doing his job, Like what's non negotiable, how he eliminates distraction,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Like some distractions like the register in my mind, don't
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: even register in his Like he just like he is
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: the definition of a pro that has the ability to
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: like sustain focus and discipline. He played for the Pages
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: for nine years. Like there's a reason why, Like he
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: fit into that program. He's on the Olympic team for
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: what rugby? Yeah, for rugby and twenty sixteen for Rio.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Then he just had to step out of the the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Tokyo Olympics to get ready for the NFL season this time. Yeah,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: he's a savage.
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  Speaker 2: Back to the episode, Yeah No, I love that shit
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  Speaker 2: anytime performance is being talked about, like like Ben Greenfield
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: once I found him on like Rogan talking about actually
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  Speaker 2: BPC one fifty seven and the red light therapy like
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: putting it on your nuts raising testosterone levels. I'm just like, yo,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: who is this guy? I'm searching Ban Greenfield, Like, oh,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: he's got a podcast. I'm listening to his podcast all
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: the time on recovery methods and anything peptide or nutrition
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: or any of that.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his book goes crazy places. Which which book is it? Boundless?
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: Boundless? It is a huge fucking book, but.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a textbook on bio hacking and like again
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: roots supplements, anything and everything like breath work, meditation. It
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: goes down all the rabbit holes and he does he
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: did a lot of like heavy lifting for everybody to
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  Speaker 1: have this amount.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Of exactly he's done the like he's went down those
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: dark alleys to find all this information that's accessible to everybody.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an investigative reporter. And then so now he
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: just put his efforts into that. So that's dope. But
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: like that stuff is just regardless if I'm playing football
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: or not. Like I want to optimize and I want
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: to like live better and have enough energy to pursue
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: crazy thing like whether it's a like a podcast or
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: a new job or like relationships and that kind of thing,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: like you want you want to give your fucking best. Yeah,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: so I think that stuff's cool and that kind of
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: I guess that that world of chasing edges goes down
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of rabbits. Yeah, but it got me an
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: opportunity in the NFL, like you might get another one, bro, yeah,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: God will and that like snappings a new edge.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, hey fuck it man, you get back in
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: you you really are.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: You're You're an example of chasing edges and staying persistent
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: and staying focused and staying discipline while obviously dabbling and
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: other things that keep you happy and keep you going and.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Shit like that. But it's it, really is.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: It's cool to see what your clim has been and
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: the respect you've gained as far as being a captain.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: I know that stood out to me singing all these
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: leagues you were in before you became that and then
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: obviously staying steady two years out and you're still chasing,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: not still chasing like you need it, but it's just
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: cool that you got it in your back, like you
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: got that club in your bag, so you know what
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: I mean. It's dope, man, and I I really do
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: I fuck with you, you know that. And uh, I
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on. But when's your podcast Chasing Edge
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: is gonna drop?
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: You think middle August?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: Middle of August, keep a look out for the boys
• 1:35:14
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