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- Lucas: So, Luna, you know that moment when you're at Costco, you finish your shopping, and you grab the $1.50 hot dog and soda combo on the way out? Luna: Absolutely. It's practically a ritual for me. And I've heard the rumors that Costco has refused to raise that price for decades. Lucas: Right. And it's not just a rumor. It's been a headline in the business press for years. In fact, back in 2018, Costco's CFO, Richard Galanti, said the price was 'forever.' And even as inflation pushed food costs up, they've held the line. Luna: Forever. That's a bold word for a CFO. But how does that make sense financially? I mean, a $1.50 combo can't be a big money maker, especially now. Lucas: That's the puzzle, right? On its face, it seems like a loss leader. But when you dig into the numbers, it's actually a masterclass in pricing psychology and long-term value. Costco sells over 200 million of these combos a year. That's a lot of hot dogs. Luna: 200 million? That's staggering. So even if they make a small margin per unit, that's real revenue. But the bigger story is what it does for membership renewals. Lucas: Exactly. The hot dog combo is the hook. It's this visible, tangible promise of value that reinforces the entire membership model. You pay your annual fee, and part of what you're buying is the confidence that you're getting a deal. The $1.50 hot dog is that deal personified. Luna: So it's not about the hot dog itself, it's about what it signals. And that got me thinking — how many other companies have that kind of anchor product? Lucas: Very few, honestly. And that's what makes it a leadership lesson. Jim Sinegal, the co-founder and longtime CEO, was famously committed to this. He said that when he started, he promised customers a hot dog and soda for $1.50, and he intended to keep that promise. Even after he retired, the policy stuck. Luna: It's almost like a sacred cow. But what happens when costs go up? At some point, doesn't it hurt the bottom line? Lucas: You'd think so, but here's the thing: Costco's approach isn't to maximize profit per item; it's to maximize the value of the membership. The food court is subsidized by the membership fees and the general store margins. And it works. The renewal rate for memberships is over 90 percent, and the average member spends a lot more over the year than just the hot dog. Luna: So it's a loss leader that drives traffic and loyalty. But would this work for other retailers? I mean, if Walmart tried to keep a $1.50 combo forever, would it have the same effect? Lucas: Probably not, because the context matters. Costco's entire business is built around a membership fee and a curated selection. Walmart's model is different — they rely on volume and everyday low prices across thousands of items. The hot dog works for Costco because it's part of a broader identity of 'treasure hunt' and 'value.' Luna: That's a good point. It's not just a pricing trick; it's a cultural symbol. And I think that's why the CEO has to be the one to defend it. It's a test of leadership resolve. Lucas: Absolutely. And we've seen that resolve tested. In 2022, when inflation was at multi-decade highs, shareholders asked about the hot dog price. The CFO essentially said what he said before: 'No, it's forever.' That takes a lot of nerve, because the easy answer would be to bump it to $1.75 or even $2.00 and pocket the extra margin. Luna: And that's the leadership lesson, isn't it? Knowing what not to change. It's easy to optimize for the short term, but the real value is in staying consistent with a promise. Lucas: Exactly. And it extends beyond the hot dog. Think of the rotisserie chicken — they sell it at a loss too. And the $5.99 chicken has been a staple for years, despite bird flu scares and rising feed costs. They absorb the cost because it's part of the brand promise. Luna: Right, and I've heard they even have a gas station that's often cheaper than the market. It's all part of the same philosophy. Lucas: Yeah. And that philosophy comes from the top. Jim Sinegal was known for saying that if the price of something goes up, you don't always pass it on to the customer. Sometimes you eat the margin. That's a hard thing to do when you're a public company and analysts are watching your gross margin. Luna: But it's also what makes Costco so beloved. People genuinely trust the brand. And that trust translates into higher membership renewals and a willingness to buy more when they're in the store. Lucas: So, you know, these conversations about leadership and trust are exactly why we do this show. And if you find yourself thinking about these lessons long after the episode ends, that's the kind of thing that makes a supporter of the show. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, and you want to keep them coming — no ads, no sponsors — you can support us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It's a simple way to keep the lights on. Luna: Yeah, every contribution helps, even if it's the cost of a hot dog combo. And we appreciate every one of you who's already supported us. Lucas: Alright, back to Costco. So let's talk about the financial mechanics. The company doesn't break out the food court numbers, but we can estimate. A hot dog and a soda cost maybe 50 to 70 cents to source. So they're not losing a fortune per unit, but they're not making much either. The real return is the foot traffic and the halo effect on the rest of the store. Luna: And that halo effect is why they put the food court at the entrance, right? So you smell the pizza and hot dogs as you walk in. Lucas: Exactly. It's a scent moneymaker. And they also make the checkout lines long enough that you'll pass by the food court on the way out, just in case you're not hungry yet. Luna: It's almost evil genius. But I wonder — what would happen if they did raise the price to, say, $1.75? Would it break the magic? Lucas: Probably not overnight, but it would chip away at the narrative. The whole point is that it's this fixed point in a changing world. And in a way, it's a bet on customer lifetime value. Costco knows that a happy member is a loyal member. And loyal members are worth a lot more than the 25 cents they'd gain on each hot dog. Luna: So it's a strategic choice, not a sentimental one. But it still takes courage to resist the easy profit. Especially when your stock price is under pressure. Lucas: Right. And that's a lesson for any leader. The most valuable assets are often the ones that don't show up on a P&L. Trust, brand, reputation. It's easy to monetize them in the short term, but it's harder to rebuild them once they're gone. Luna: That's a good segue into something else. Do you think this kind of fixed-price strategy could work in other industries? Like, imagine if a software company said, 'We'll never raise the price of our basic plan.' Lucas: It's a tough ask because software costs are different. But some companies do it — think of streaming services that promise no price hikes for a year. It's a similar idea: lock in a price to build trust, even if it's not the most profitable in the short term. Luna: But the risk is that you might be leaving money on the table. Costco's bet is that the long-term returns outweigh the short-term sacrifice. Lucas: And so far, that bet has paid off. Costco's same-store sales have consistently beaten the market, and its membership renewal rate is the envy of retail. It's a reminder that sometimes the best way to maximize profit is to not maximize profit. Luna: I think that's the key takeaway here. Leadership isn't always about making the tough call to raise prices; sometimes it's about having the discipline to keep them steady. Lucas: Right. And it's a subtlety that's often lost in business school discussions. But it's a powerful one. So the next time you're at the Costco food court, take a moment to appreciate that $1.50 hot dog. It's not just a meal; it's a statement about what the company believes. Luna: And maybe a lesson for all of us in how we think about pricing, value, and trust. Lucas: Exactly. Now, I'm curious, have you ever actually calculated how much you spend on Costco hot dogs in a year? Luna: I don't want to admit that. But let's just say it's a significant part of my grocery budget. Lucas: Well, that's a good problem to have. Anyway, that's our story for today. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next time.