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- 0:00Hi, welcome back to Hydroponics Daily with me, Dr. Russell Sharp.
- 0:03Today, we're going to talk about the Nagoya Protocol, which sounds like it's
- 0:07a spy novel that's going to be turned into a film starring Tom Cruise or something like that.
- 0:13But no, the Nagoya Protocol is a United Nations policy that's been made law
- 0:18into legislation in a lot of countries, including the European Union,
- 0:23lot in South America, Asia.
- 0:27It's been signed, but not ratified in Australia.
- 0:31It's not been signed by the USA or Canada, which surprises me.
- 0:38But it's because Canada seems to be fairly hot when it comes to environmental policies.
- 0:43It's an environmental policy that's law in these countries now that states that
- 0:48when you commercialize a genetic material, that you have to put some money back
- 0:55to where that genetic material came from.
- 0:57And the people who helped commercialize it or come up with the idea of using it.
- 1:02So it all stems from a company called Eli Lilly. He was a pharmaceutical company in America.
- 1:08My dad used to work for them when they were based in Liverpool.
- 1:11And they had a product that was, they went to Madagascar and they got the madagascan
- 1:16periwinkle and they found they thought it could be used for diabetes and actually
- 1:21it was used against i think non-hodgkinson's lymphoma and a number of other
- 1:24diseases and its scientific name is vinca and these these chemicals extracted from it were like.
- 1:30Vincistrine and vingblastine and they commercialized them they made a lot of
- 1:35money but they never well did they put back enough money back into the madagascan,
- 1:41community, certainly extremely poor country, where its genetic resources were
- 1:46used to cure diseases in the Western world.
- 1:48And so this is like the example used. But why is it important to hydroponics?
- 1:53Well, any genetic material, in theory, you have to comply with these laws.
- 1:58So these are laws. Whether they're actually implemented and followed through
- 2:02on is a different matter.
- 2:04You know, the European Union loves to legislate and doesn't necessarily love
- 2:09to implement and make those laws actually...
- 2:14If somebody was breaking those laws, whether they would actually be prosecuted is another matter.
- 2:20I think that's one of the problems between the EU and the UK.
- 2:23Normally, when we have a law, we tend to implement it and prosecute people who break it.
- 2:28Whereas having a law in principle is mainly what the Nagoya Protocol is happening.
- 2:33No one's being prosecuted for using opium poppies in their gardens and things like that.
- 2:40And certainly if you say you had a crop from Afghanistan or Pakistan or the
- 2:47Himalayas or from certain parts of the Caribbean or Thailand, for example,
- 2:52and you were using it and making a lot of money from it, in theory,
- 2:55you'd have to give the money back to the communities where
- 2:58that came from that's not happening that i'm aware
- 3:01of even things crazy like barley people
- 3:05have looked at giving money back to certain parts of
- 3:07the world where barley came from it's never going
- 3:10to happen in a million years you can't imagine the big breweries suddenly
- 3:13devoting a certain amount who's to say how much
- 3:16do you actually give back it's an area i mean i've been to numerous talks on
- 3:20this and been bored rigid by people from places like defra where they've got
- 3:25people who their job is just to look at this regulations if it's going to be
- 3:29a law it might as well be implemented and it might as well be you know have
- 3:33some weight behind it certainly large.
- 3:37Multinational companies if they're going to be ripping out plants and
- 3:40animals from developing countries and commercializing
- 3:44them they definitely need to be giving back but do people
- 3:47who are growing food and growing medicine for
- 3:50their own use do they need to be giving back i'd say probably not
- 3:53and so i don't think the nuances are reflected
- 3:56that's been the nagoya protocol if you
- 3:59want to find out more there are ample resources online
- 4:02about it it's the sort of thing that university departments will spend at endless
- 4:07times studying you could probably do a master's in it at some university but
- 4:12yeah that's nagoya protocol next time you see that referenced you know exactly
- 4:17what it's about it's about giving money to countries where genetic materials originated,
- 4:22That's been Hyde Upon His Daily for today.