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Bob Nightengale’s Murakami report + Magic Johnson’s profitable tweet, Royals new ballpark announcement, Two-strike approach debate · Foul Territory

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Bob.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Moving on to some other topics. You wrote about Murakami
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: this week in a column.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us what you.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: Wrote about and how much it looks like the rest
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: of the league miscalculated for now.
• 0:20
  Speaker 3: I know things can change, the league can adjust, but
• 0:22
  Speaker 3: for now, he is hitting a lot of home runs.
• 0:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's hit home runs and four straight
• 0:28
  Speaker 4: games now, four homers last six games.
• 0:32
  Speaker 5: It's it's he's on fire, and he's been taking a
• 0:35
  Speaker 5: lot of walks.
• 0:36
  Speaker 4: He's still striking out. It just like everybody in Vision.
• 0:39
  Speaker 4: But for just two years at thirty four million dollars,
• 0:42
  Speaker 4: who couldn't use this guy? You know, like he says, guy,
• 0:45
  Speaker 4: it's early, but you know his numbers, you know, very
• 0:47
  Speaker 4: summer till guy like Kyles forbar Uh, he's, you.
• 0:50
  Speaker 5: Know, everything the White Sox couldn't imagine.
• 0:53
  Speaker 4: And talking to those young White Sox players, he's kind
• 0:56
  Speaker 4: of rubbing off on him and just the diligence, his preparation.
• 1:00
  Speaker 5: They're watching everything he's doing.
• 1:02
  Speaker 4: So if he can hit you know, over forty home runs,
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  Speaker 4: even if he hits you know, two ten gets on base,
• 1:08
  Speaker 4: you know thirty seven, you know, forty percent of the
• 1:11
  Speaker 4: time it's going to be a steal. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he should be easily to you know, price have it mentioned.
• 1:17
  Speaker 4: I would think at some point too, the WEISC will
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: start selling some tickets and the ATTENSI will go up
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  Speaker 4: just to watch this guy if he's in the home
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  Speaker 4: run race all year.
• 1:27
  Speaker 6: Is there is there a feeling around the league through
• 1:31
  Speaker 6: this first month watching him hit that hey, we were right,
• 1:35
  Speaker 6: but he's just hitting homers right now because the league
• 1:38
  Speaker 6: was saying he can't hit, he can't hit velocity over
• 1:41
  Speaker 6: ninety five miles an hour. Will he hit a homer
• 1:43
  Speaker 6: to center over the batter's eye on a pitch that
• 1:46
  Speaker 6: was ninety eight point one, so he kind of dispelled that.
• 1:49
  Speaker 6: But his other homers are all below ninety four miles
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  Speaker 6: per hour or off speed pitches.
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think teams are kicking themselves right now,
• 1:57
  Speaker 4: saying wouldn't have meant now we could have had this guy,
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  Speaker 4: but that for that cheap only a two year deal. Uh,
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: that's a that's a steal. So I think they're saying, no,
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: what he's making the adjustment pretty quickly. Uh, you know,
• 2:08
  Speaker 4: we'll see what he does with the high velocity. But
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  Speaker 4: he's you know, they thought that he'd have trouble against
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  Speaker 4: a tough breaking pitches too. And I don't think you
• 2:15
  Speaker 4: ever imagine that he would, you know, had this many walks,
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  Speaker 4: particularly early.
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  Speaker 5: The guy can run a little bit too.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, well, Venable, their manager was just seeing saying
• 2:24
  Speaker 4: yesterday like, uh, he wants to steal some bases, and
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  Speaker 4: they're kind of calling him down the bases like you
• 2:30
  Speaker 4: hold off here, but you know, beat out an infield
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  Speaker 4: hit last night. He's showing some speed too, and uh,
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  Speaker 4: he's really adjusted well in that clubhouse. You know, guys,
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: guys love hanging out with him already.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if you're saying guys love hanging out with
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  Speaker 7: him and he's proving to be a big bat, how
• 2:45
  Speaker 7: long do you think the White Sox wait before maybe
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  Speaker 7: extending him or adding a couple of years onto this contract,
• 2:50
  Speaker 7: or at least starting those negotiations.
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  Speaker 4: I think they wait to least till next year early,
• 2:55
  Speaker 4: at least in the winter, see how it goes. But
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: if you Murakami said, okay, you know, how can I
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  Speaker 4: get I'm sure he was disappointed in the amount of
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  Speaker 4: money he got. A Remember at the beginning when he
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: hit free agency, people are talking about over one hundred
• 3:08
  Speaker 4: million dollars, and I think there is stune to see that.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody in the industry thought he'd be that superstar player.
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: So he has the year everybody imagines or envision. Then
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: I think you will see some contract talks in the
• 3:20
  Speaker 4: off season saying, okay, what will end to keep you here?
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  Speaker 4: But also in the flip end, he may be saying,
• 3:25
  Speaker 4: you know what, there'd be a whole lot of teams
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  Speaker 4: are gonna be bidding for me in two years from now.
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  Speaker 7: That's why I was just gonna you kind of just
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  Speaker 7: cut to my point right there. If he becomes an
• 3:34
  Speaker 7: unrestricted free agent in twenty eight after the two year
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  Speaker 7: deal for someone who feels like they were slighted during
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  Speaker 7: the free agency process, do you think he'll even consider
• 3:43
  Speaker 7: the negotiations from the White Sox or he's got his
• 3:45
  Speaker 7: eyes already on that free agency again if it stays
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  Speaker 7: this way that he's proven himself to be a certifiable hitter, Yeah.
• 3:52
  Speaker 5: Maybe too.
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  Speaker 4: As far as how he dos that team him, is
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: it coming on? I mean, they're making improvements here, the
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: guys a nice young uh you know, they're playing some
• 4:02
  Speaker 4: nice defense, so a VC is that okay? You know,
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  Speaker 4: this team can maybe be a possible contender in a
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  Speaker 4: week division a year from now.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe I want to be part of this.
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  Speaker 4: But the flip in it's like, hey, why not let
• 4:15
  Speaker 4: you know, thirty teams been on me and see what
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  Speaker 4: you can get. You know, not gonna be a not
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: getting restrictions on him. He's still got twenty six years old,
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: just coming into his own and you know, who won't
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  Speaker 4: want a guy to you know, hit fifty some home
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  Speaker 4: runs a year. And if he's doing that, he's gonna
• 4:34
  Speaker 4: be a nice attraction at the gate.
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  Speaker 6: Can you compare his starts to other Japanese sluggers that
• 4:41
  Speaker 6: have come over, not even just the last ten years,
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  Speaker 6: but the history of Japanese sluggers coming over and hitting
• 4:48
  Speaker 6: homers like he's been doing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, it's historic. So, you know, nine homers
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  Speaker 4: in twenty three games, It's never been done. I think
• 4:57
  Speaker 4: Otani had five home runs, maybe six Saya Suzuki, you know,
• 5:03
  Speaker 4: he had a handful, but a uh you know, but
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  Speaker 4: nobody's had this kind of start. So for him to
• 5:09
  Speaker 4: do that and uh, you know, do it so quickly
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  Speaker 4: and how acclimated he is, He's getting more and more comfortable,
• 5:17
  Speaker 4: you know, according to his teammates a quote amenable that
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  Speaker 4: why not. But what he's doing has never been done.
• 5:24
  Speaker 4: I mean even the nine home runs and what twenty
• 5:26
  Speaker 4: one walks has never been done by any major league
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  Speaker 4: player in their first twenty three games.
• 5:32
  Speaker 5: So he's on president territory.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: Bob Let's finish with the Misery Loves Company group. There
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: are quite a few that have a top twelve payroll
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  Speaker 2: and a very slow start. But we'll spend some time
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: on the Mets, the Phillies, anywhere else you want to go.
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  Speaker 2: But your thoughts on the slow start for teams like this,
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: and do you think that any moves will be made?
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, really, the only thing you can do this
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: time of year is make a manager change.
• 5:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I thought the Blue Jays were be in trouble,
• 6:02
  Speaker 4: but just you know, saw them in the Phoenix. They
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: you know, won a big game on Sunday. Then when
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: the first two in Anaheim, I think they're gonna be
• 6:09
  Speaker 4: all right. I can't believe the Phillies will keep playing
• 6:12
  Speaker 4: this bad. It's going to help with Zach Wheeler go
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: in that rotation. Uh, you know, we'll see what happens
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  Speaker 4: with Taiwan Walker, but I can't believe these guys are
• 6:20
  Speaker 4: going to hit you know, keep hitting one seventy as
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: lefties all year. I used think it's got too much talent.
• 6:26
  Speaker 4: I think Rob Thompson, you know, is safe. Uh it
• 6:30
  Speaker 4: would be different if Alex Corra was out there, but
• 6:32
  Speaker 4: he's still employed by the Boston Red Sox, and uh, well,
• 6:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think they want to fire, you know, Carlos
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  Speaker 4: Mendoza with the Mets. But this goes on, you know,
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: through the Twins series, then I think you're going to
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  Speaker 4: have no choice. But hey, we got to make a move.
• 6:47
  Speaker 4: I think Mendoza would understand that. It's like, you know what,
• 6:50
  Speaker 4: you know, when you lose a uh this many games
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  Speaker 4: in a row.
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  Speaker 5: I deserve to take the poll.
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  Speaker 1: Who would who would they? I mean, who could they
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  Speaker 1: move to?
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  Speaker 6: You said, if Alice Korra was out there, do they
• 7:01
  Speaker 6: bring a manager that's not on the staff in because
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  Speaker 6: if you just bring an interim manager and essentially you
• 7:09
  Speaker 6: made the coach, you made the manager change all his coaches,
• 7:12
  Speaker 6: and so you're just bringing in somebody that was already
• 7:15
  Speaker 6: there watching the exact same thing night in and night out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not scoring.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Carlos Belt runs a natural choice, be interesting,
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: and you've got the Hall of Fame stuff that summer.
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: You know they'd be missing, you know, at least three
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: games in July to be at the Hall of Fame
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: while the team's playing.
• 7:34
  Speaker 5: There's guys out there. I don't know if you'd be considering.
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: Ah, you know a David Martinez who never even got
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: a phone call this winter. I've been let go Brandon.
• 7:42
  Speaker 4: The hide is still out there. So but yeah, I'm
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: not sure you stay on the staff. You know it
• 7:48
  Speaker 4: could be a Belt run, but outside him, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure you're picking another guy on that coaching staff.
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  Speaker 2: news that broke today regarding the Royals Ballpark and our
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: former Royal Eric Kratz might be able to help us out.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get to find out all of the details
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  Speaker 2: here yet Kratz, but they've secured a two billion dollar
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: private investment to build a new ballpark in downtown Kansas City.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: The announcement made by the team, I mean it sounds awesome.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: Eighty five acre Crown Center project. They want to create
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: more of the buzz all around the park. I know
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: that there was the whole debate of, hey, you've got
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: this land all to itself, the easiest parking in the
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: entire world. There's endless parking out there for chiefs and
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: for royals, but they're going to be more in the mix,
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: so it should be more of a fun experience. I
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: can't comment a ton since I don't live there. Have
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: been there a bunch for covering the team, But what
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: can you tell us Kratz is someone who lived there temporarily?
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: Do you like all of this? And the one question
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: I think you won't be able to answer unless you know,
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: is the private funding doing all of the funding for this.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: I know they did the vote with the public funding
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: that got voted down, so I don't know the nitty
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: gritty details, but it sounded like the public was like, nah,
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: I think somebody else should pay for this.
• 10:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, clearly voted it down. Even a former former
• 10:12
  Speaker 6: royal voted it down. Who was who was in the politics?
• 10:17
  Speaker 6: All I gotta say, don't screw it up. Don't screw
• 10:20
  Speaker 6: it up. I feel like I feel like Casey. I
• 10:22
  Speaker 6: feel like Kaufman is a stadium. Now we'll have to
• 10:25
  Speaker 6: talk about it was a stadium that was very sneaky.
• 10:30
  Speaker 6: One of my more favorite stadiums to go and visit
• 10:33
  Speaker 6: and to play it as a home home player. Kip,
• 10:35
  Speaker 6: you played there a lot, but it's one of those
• 10:38
  Speaker 6: things that like it's it's very unique.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: I hope when they do.
• 10:41
  Speaker 6: This and they go to the new model of everything
• 10:45
  Speaker 6: around it, which I think will be great. I think
• 10:47
  Speaker 6: that's an awesome part of it, that you have a
• 10:49
  Speaker 6: whole experience. It's more money in the owner's pockets. All
• 10:53
  Speaker 6: that stuff is good, but there's some kind of there's
• 10:58
  Speaker 6: a quaint uniqueness to Kaufman.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: The water fountains, the fact that you.
• 11:04
  Speaker 6: Know it still has that it has that older, older
• 11:10
  Speaker 6: just behind home plate, down the lines type of seating,
• 11:14
  Speaker 6: and then they have some seating and center field. It
• 11:17
  Speaker 6: just gives you a different gives you a different view
• 11:20
  Speaker 6: than a lot of stadiums that we now have with
• 11:23
  Speaker 6: the massive scoreboard. I have an affinity for it, but
• 11:25
  Speaker 6: I also have an affinity for what you said, Scott.
• 11:28
  Speaker 6: I grew up in Philly and the Vet Veterans Stadium
• 11:33
  Speaker 6: and all the surrounding stadiums were all in one parking lot,
• 11:38
  Speaker 6: just a massive expanse of parking lots now in Philly,
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: Citizens Bank Park, Lincoln Financial Wells Fargo are the three stadiums.
• 11:47
  Speaker 6: They're all still in those same parking lots. And I
• 11:49
  Speaker 6: get it. Team owners can't make a lot of money.
• 11:52
  Speaker 6: They can't, but there is a there is a beauty
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  Speaker 6: of fans being able to get to the field park,
• 11:59
  Speaker 6: usually at an exuberant price, and walk into the stadium.
• 12:03
  Speaker 6: But they lose that when they go down to the
• 12:07
  Speaker 6: Power and Light District or the Crown Center down in
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  Speaker 6: Kansas City. They lose that part of it, and it
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: just I'm afraid sometimes it pulls fans away from being like, no,
• 12:17
  Speaker 6: I'm not going from Overland Park where I lived, into
• 12:21
  Speaker 6: Kansas City because it's just not as easy. The traffic
• 12:24
  Speaker 6: around there, the streets aren't great. Where when you go
• 12:28
  Speaker 6: to Kaufman Bang you have Arrowhead right there, you have
• 12:31
  Speaker 6: the Chiefs training facility right there, and you have Kaufman
• 12:35
  Speaker 6: right there in it. It loses some of that for.
• 12:38
  Speaker 7: Me, it does, but I think you can gain it
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  Speaker 7: back a little bit. I hope they pay homage to
• 12:44
  Speaker 7: Kaufman a little bit. I hope they keep the fountains
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  Speaker 7: somewhere in there in the new one. I was going
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: to ask if it was by power light and all
• 12:52
  Speaker 7: that stuff. It's follow the money, I think, but I
• 12:56
  Speaker 7: think they can make it right. I think some of
• 12:58
  Speaker 7: these new stadiums are beautiful and very well done, and
• 13:01
  Speaker 7: I think they have a lot more for fans. So
• 13:03
  Speaker 7: what fans you say might be lost to the travel
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  Speaker 7: might be brought back in by some of the stuff
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  Speaker 7: where you see it, like the battery in Atlanta, or
• 13:11
  Speaker 7: stuff where they have stuff for kids. They have sports
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  Speaker 7: bars there to come early and play games, and like
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  Speaker 7: be around the stadium. Where around the Kaufman there was
• 13:20
  Speaker 7: just the parking lot, so there really wasn't anything to do.
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  Speaker 7: And also, if you want to talk traffic, it wasn't
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  Speaker 7: Kaufman like it was just the one road in and out, wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: It It was? But it was.
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  Speaker 7: It was massive, but it could get backed up too.
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  Speaker 7: I think with driving downtown, at least there's gonna be
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  Speaker 7: more directions to go in and out of having at
• 13:38
  Speaker 7: least more options. But no, I think it's it's It
• 13:43
  Speaker 7: was a beautiful stadium. I had a blast playing there
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  Speaker 7: all the time. I'm with you. I thought it was
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  Speaker 7: one of the better ones as well.
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  Speaker 9: I loved it.
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  Speaker 7: I thought it was loud too, and I really liked
• 13:52
  Speaker 7: the little sections in the outfield before the fountains. So
• 13:56
  Speaker 7: there was a lot of unique stuff about it that
• 13:59
  Speaker 7: I think the players and fans enjoyed. So I think
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  Speaker 7: rather I hope they pay homage to it or keep
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  Speaker 7: some of that stuff in the new one.
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  Speaker 1: Power light is a little bit farther north of where so.
• 14:11
  Speaker 9: Is it power light?
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  Speaker 7: Is it by that or is it by where maybe
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: the team visiting uh visiting t hotels were.
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  Speaker 9: That was more the crowd puzzle.
• 14:20
  Speaker 6: Either the the I think that was the Omni or
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: I forget what that hotel was that was near the
• 14:27
  Speaker 6: that's in a different area.
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  Speaker 9: That's called crowd.
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: The one place had the one place had peanut butter
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: and jelly pie.
• 14:36
  Speaker 9: Oh man, I was so delicious. I love that you're
• 14:40
  Speaker 9: remembering places by the dessert.
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: By the dessert. Yeah, it's it's by the dessert. That
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: was That was me. I mean, yeah, Alex Gordon never
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: ate dessert. And we said, look, we're gonna we're gonna
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: eat it when we win the World Series.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: We're gonna eat it.
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: Well, they fired me before we won the World Series,
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: but I'm sure he had a piece.
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah you are Superman.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to follow up and ask him if
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: he had the dessert. I think it's time, crats, it's
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: been long enough. I think we all need to know
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: if you had the dessert. And yes, Kip specifically separates
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: it by pies, not just desserts.
• 15:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I like that.
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: I love the the the stadiums that are in the
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: middle of downtown areas, though I thoroughly enjoy that just
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: because I love the backdrop. I love the commotion around it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: Like granted it's from a player's perspective, we don't really
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: have to deal with the traffic. We'll be on a
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: bus with a cop brigade in front of us clearing
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: the past.
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  Speaker 9: So it's it's it's a bias thing to say it
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  Speaker 9: like that.
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: But even going down to like Charlotte in Triple A,
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: I think I love the backdrop of that stadium.
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: That's what that's gorgeous.
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: Pittsburgh Wrigley Field is right in the middle of their town,
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: So it's like I I do really enjoy in the
• 15:54
  Speaker 7: middle of cities because I think it really brings in
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: the neighborhoods around there.
• 15:57
  Speaker 9: Uh, and and builds up a fandom even more so.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know there's people that probably live a
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: quiet life downtown that are like, ugh, this is gonna
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: take over for eighty some days.
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: Ye.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Well, the area that it's going to is if you remember,
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: I mean people don't remember the parade, but the parade
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: for the Royals, it ended in like a big open area,
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: like I think there's some kind of monument down there.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: So it's like right off the side of it. It's
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: a little bit south of the city. It's south of
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: that area, So I think it's a cool area, especially
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: that they get eighty five acres.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll be it'll it will definitely be great for
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: downtown Kansas City.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, I love to hear that. Here's a tweet from
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: a partial owner of the Dodgers to celebrate how Richie
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: has gotten from owning a team. He already has plenty
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: of money, but I just thought it was fun to
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: point to this little note from Magic Johnson. It's a
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: linked to MLB team values soaring, and he said, since
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: we acquired the Dodgers in twenty twelve for two point
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: one five billion dollars. The franchise has grown three hundred
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and eighteen percent and is now valued at nine billion dollars.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And then he pointed out the success of the team
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: over that time period and leading MLB in attendance and
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: all of that. Right, Also keep in mind Forbes again
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: going by I think harder numbers, guarantee you if the
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Dodgers actually were for sale, they'd probably go for like
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: eleven billion dollars exactly. I'll take the over on nine.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: What did the Lakers just go for like tennish? Was
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the valuation? Was it ten or twelve? Whatever it was?
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: It was double digits.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: Congrats Magic, everyone's really happy for you. Coreculate are very wealthy.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Good job.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Well is Magic drunk when he texted this?
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: Because I'm sure there's some people in Major League Baseball that,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: like Rob Manford's office that's like, or here's my conspiracy
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: theory for the day.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Is this their whole goal?
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: Is this Major League Baseball's whole goal to make sure
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: one team makes it completely unfair to get fans completely
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: off the true topic of what needs to be discussed
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: in the CBA. And they're like, Dodgers keep on spending Hey, Magic,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: don't forget put out that tweet that really fires all
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: the fans up and shows how we need a salary
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: cap because or major League Baseball's shooting Magic at texts
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: and being like, hey, Magic, let's stop because we just
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: had a team that is technically a small market that
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: just sold for way more than their valuation. So Forbes
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: is going to start to really understand how much our
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: teams are worth here, and that's not what we're looking
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: for when we're going into a negotiation. We're trying to
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: show how, what was it biblical the losses were in
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's where Ricketts said that is correct.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I love a good conspiracy theory.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I think there was very little communication between Magic and
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Anyboddy baseball wise.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think he gets a shit. He's like, yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I don't care what you guys say.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm Magic friggin Johnson and one of the best basketball
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: players ever on rich Azelle, and I don't.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Care what you guys are doing.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: But yes, I'm sure there are a lot of comments
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: today after seeing that tweet, some thinking great, I'm glad
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you put that out there, and some like quiet on
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: that team the Padres, which we mentioned at the top
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of the show. We did have Drake Jake Croninworth on
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Friar Territory yesterday. So let's run a little piece.
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: We asked Joe, since now you have a former teammate
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: who has become a big league manager, your big league manager,
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: what do you think could be next when you look
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: around the clubhouse?
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Who do you think?
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: Joe Musk have said he could see being a major
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: league manager someday somewhere down the road when he's playing
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: days are over.
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: Oh, I don't know.
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with Jake Cronenworth.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: I appreciate Joe put in my name in there.
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know have you ever considered it?
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: I mean, you're in the middle of your career, so
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: I'm not trying to shave off the pastor here, please understand.
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: But I just I was like, hey, we've got to
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: Askince Muscrow thought, you know, somewhere down the road, this
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: could be a situation you go for.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I don't want to. I mean, I don't want to
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: think about that right now.
• 20:41
  Speaker 11: At this point in my career has got quite a
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: bit of time left, and but no I mean, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: think the way that I view the game and kind
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: of how the game's going and things that I look
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: at and how I prepare I think is a lot
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: of things, kind of like how a manager does not
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: to say it's something that I would want to do
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: in the future. I'm never gonna I'm all cross that
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: bridge when we get there.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It also rhymes with Rake cronin Worth, the player they
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: were talking about. Yes, yes, Jake cronin Worth is Yeah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: definitely one of those gamer high Baseball IQ guys. So
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: if you want to hear more from that conversation, he's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: on Friar Territory. You can click away podcasts, YouTube the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: whole deal.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: But thoughts I could see it. I got to I'm
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: buddies with him. I got to hit with him for
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: a couple off seasons when he was here. He used
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: to live here in Chicago for the winners because I
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: think that's where he met his now wife. But great dude,
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: very savvy, business savvy in that sense too, and he
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: is wired that way. I think he likes to know
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: the ins and outs of what he's doing on and
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: off the field. But like I said, with the business
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: or baseball so I could definitely see that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: For sure.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I played with him in twenty nineteen. Yes, you can.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You can manage anywhere, but you can't manage in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: crone zone. But he's done.
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: He stop bringing that kind of stuff up. My guy's
• 22:08
  Speaker 12: not even I don't think he's halfway through his contract yet.
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: Like that's the kind of stuff that they would bring
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: up to me at the same age that Crony is
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: right now, Like because I sucked, he's good.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Like do you want to manage one day? I don't know.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I'll figure it out when I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: be on the hot seat here and this one, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: might make your brain melt a little bit. But a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: friend of the show, Mike Petriello, was talking about two
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: strike approaches, and let's show the tweet reacting to what
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: he was talking about here and some of the numbers
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: behind it. So we tried to cut up as much
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: as possible, and this is in regards to hitters cutting
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: down their swings on two strikes. Of course, you have,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: you know, a heavy crowd that believes that it is
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: ultimately a bad thing. So off, here's a fan saying,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: first thing I did when batspeed data came out too,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and everyone comes to the same conclusion. What's interesting is
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: a two strike approach does improve all the things, all
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the things you think it will more in play foul balls,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: but the contact is so much worse. That is a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: worse strategy. And Petriello, who works for the league and
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: does a ton of stat cast status and me too,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: everyone who has looked into.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: This found it, and no one wants to hear it.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, So now let's flash forward to how he wrote
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: about how it's fascinating to look at what hitters are
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: doing with two strikes against them, and he shows with
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: less than two strikes, average batspeed is seventy two miles
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: an hour. Two strike approach goes to seventy point four
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: fast swing rate, which means over seventy five miles an
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: hour twenty five point six percent, it goes down to
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: sixteen point six p So it is pointing to how
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: there are many players who have a two strike approach,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: but you can show and again, Kip, I hope you're
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you're hanging with me. Here we can show you how
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the analytical crowd believes that the quality of contact that
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: often is coming from this is not worth the squeeze.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Let's get your thoughts here first, as we show this
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: potentially complicated chart no strikes, one strike, two strikes, chose count,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: It shows swing rate, and it shows what that swing
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: rate looks like versus the average.
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: Okay, let me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: Trying to add a couple of things. Here, are you
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: really having no? No, it was on screen. There was
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: My first reaction to that is like a no, shit,
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: like a duh like that people that there's people swing
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: harder or faster with less than two strikes. There, that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: your your normal swing, and I think you take off.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: You're not taking off. Rather, that's not even the right
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: way to say. You're trying to be more precise. So
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: instead of like absolutely going at it that, you're like, okay,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: we're being being more direct with two strikes. So it's like, yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: it's going to be a mile or two because you're
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: making sure you're shortening up so you're not coming from
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: a further distance. You're now coming from a shorter distance.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: You're shorting up on the bats so you're not getting
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: the long whip effect speed. So now it's just more direct.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: So it's kind of like a no duh on swing speed.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: But he's saying go back to the first page where
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: you're saying it's a slower swing and it creates more
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: foul balls and contact, but then it creates less contact.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: That part I need to hear again.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: No more contact, more foul balls.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: But they don't like the contact that's coming out of
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the swings. And of course again I mean when you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: have a two strike approach, how many times does that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: turn into a little dunk and dunk into right field?
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: Is that part who doesn't like the contact?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: The quality of content? Yeah, the data.
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: Again, I'm gonna repeat my answer from my thing.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: No shit, Like, it's not about the quality contact with
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: two strikes. You want quality contact that's before two strikes.
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: I want contact with two strikes. I want to just
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: put the ball in play, because good things happen when
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: you put the ball in play. If I can find
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: a hole, if I could find a misstep from an
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: infield or stuff, instead of just spending the full dollar
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: on a swing and striking out and missing, more stuff
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: can happen. Good things can happen when you put the
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: ball in play, So it's not going to be if
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: I'm choking up and trying to hit the ball the
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: other way with two strikes, yeah, I'm probably not gonna
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: blast it off the right center field wall. It can happen, though,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: stuff like that does happen. But if I'm still taking
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: a three to one hack monster hack with two strikes,
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: I'm not as precise because I'm still nothing as much contact.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: You're trying to hit the ball the whole time, every pitch,
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: no matter what. But it's just the emphasis becomes more
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: on making sure the middle of my barrel is on
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: the middle of that baseball instead of just all of
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: the barrel to all of the baseball. So it's kind
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: of a no brainer data to me. I'm if I'm
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: still hearing it, but that makes me also believe that
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: I'm not still hearing what they're trying to say. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: guess so, or am I answering this correctly?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: No, I think you are, And I'll keep adding to
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it too, because yeah, I mean some of this is
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: coming from I guess there's some some saber conversations recently
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: or some type of meetup. So this is just like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the online chatter and you happen to be the one
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: on with us for the last ten minutes of the show,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: So it's all you bibit. But yeah, I mean you
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: get I'm just reading some fan reactions here too. Yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: one fence that did we remove elite power hitters from
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: the sample, middling and contact first players. Sub Segmentation matters,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: for example, how does Bellinger fair versus judge does go
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: back to wade box as his approach never makes sense?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense right, Like situation matters, for example,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: percentage of runs in from third less than two outs
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: extra innings with a runner on second right. There's so
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: many different situations to point to this versus just saying
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: in a vacuum, don't slow your swing down with two strikes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It's not worth it because you will hit less homers.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: To me, that is just too basic in terms of
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the data. And I think that's where you do have
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a disconnect right where it's easy. And again I consider
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: myself in between, like I love numbers. I use those
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: for a lot of my points. I did not play
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the game. But at the same time, sometimes you look
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: at something and you just say, well, the data shows
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: is this so this is what we have to do,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and then you know, you end up with the New
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: York mass loution twelve.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: In a row again.
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: I just I think with the shorting of the swing,
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: like I'm just picturing, it's not people hear that and
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: they think maybe choking up and all that stuff I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: thinking of. Instead of this big picture of golf swing,
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: base will sing whatever you want said this big motion.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: Instead of started back here, I'm going to start it
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: from rate here. It's less time to create the momentum,
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: so it's less time to create the speed. I'm still
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: getting it up to as full speed as I can,
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: but I think that full speed is just not reaching
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: the high same data as maybe the original full swing.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: But pitchers are nasty now. It's it's nasty er now
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: than they've ever been in the in the league, so
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: it's harder to make better contact. I don't think you're
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: I think you have to. You can't take a full
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: wide league wide data without some context because there are
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: certain hitters that just shouldn't be doing full as hard
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: as they can swings. There are certain hitters that like
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: Aaron Judge and Luis Arayaz have two different swings. One
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: is more focused on power and one is more focused
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: on contact. So it's like, it's what works for you
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: up there. So I just I don't know what the
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: data is even being used for. I don't think people
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: are like going for two strikes where this is the
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: normal swing, and then it's like, oh, I'll slow it
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: down with two strikes. Like nobody's doing that, even if
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: it's a mile or two different.
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: You're not.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: I think they're just getting full think about it. So
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: we're like, oh oh and they waved it at it,
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: so it's like they got full too. You're adding that
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: in as a two strike is into your data. So
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: let's again, there's just not enough context for me with
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: all this that's hypothetical.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Let's just put it to you. Okay.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Let's say you're, you know, playing right now, and you're
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: for the most part changing your swing with two strikes
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: or changing your approach whatever it is, or everything right,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and it's not your a swing and a team comes
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to you and says, hey, we need you to give
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: us your a swing for every single swing that you take.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: What would you say back.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: I'm offended because I thought I was giving you your
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: my a swing on everything.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: You know, it's just not realistic.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: I guess if my a swing A swing I'm guessing
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: is when two oh three to one you think of
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: fastball's coming, that's would you say that would be in
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: a swing You're.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Like, I think you have the top end bat speed
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: there you swing at it. I mean, you're not uncontrolled,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: but you it's your a swing, it's your home run swing.
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: That's where my mentally, I can anticipate where I think
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: I know what pitch is coming and where it's coming.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: Fastball in the zone because they need to throw a
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: strike here. So that's why I think that's going to
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: get my a swing. If I'm fooled earlier in the
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: bat and I let's say it's left on left now
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: and I have to see a curveball up instead of
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: already anticipating, there is no anticipating. I have to read
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  Speaker 7: the pitch, So now I can't. I'm not as geared
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: up already because now I'm more in a little defensive mode.
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: I'm more trying to find the ball out of his
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: hand instead of just knowing or anticipating it'll be right
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  Speaker 7: in the zone. Now I'm like Okay, where is it there?
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: It is instead of I've lost that geared up momentum,
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: the kinetic energy, if you will, where it's just stored
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: up and ready to go. Now it's more of a
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: read the pitch and find it. So yes, by by that,
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: I think the swing will be a mile or two slower.
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: And if I'm fooled where I was like, oh, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: I flare out at something, that's not going to be
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: as fast as my two zero geared up swing either.
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  Speaker 7: So that data is like right where it should be.
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  Speaker 7: I guess in my mind if I again, if I'm
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: answered it correctly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the data is where it should be. It's
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: just the overlying topic is what gets debated. You know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a kid looks at this and says, Okay, now, I'm
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: not going to have a two strike approach in little
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: league anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to give my home on every pitch.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: That's where the debate gets really fiery, and I get
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit pissed off because I'm like, I don't
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: want every kid learning baseball that way or and but
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say this. I want you to
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: say if that's right or wrong.
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: It's been it's been happening for a while now, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: that data has already been out, and I looked in
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: a different form. It has been in the different form
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: of teams calling up guys who have better power numbers
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: but a lower average and aren't playing winning baseball, but
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: they have more home runs. And I was like, okay,
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: so you want a player who's not playing winning baseball.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: So let's say me and another guy are down there.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: I'm gon just say I'm the one playing winning baseball
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: right now, hypothetical, and I move a guy over, but
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: a guy doesn't get him in because with two strikes,
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: he's swinging out of his you know what, trying to
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: hit a home run, and it works maybe one of.
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: The five at bats.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: But I've had four productive abs, whether two liners the
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: other way, and two got the guy over on a
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: guy on second, But because he hit a home run,
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: his stats are his power numbers, his ops might be higher,
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: he gets called up. That is the way the game
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: has been going and then being rewarded to the point
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: where it has not taught winning baseball. So winning baseball
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: has not been in the Major League, has not been
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: a focus for minor league teams or for minor league players. Rather,
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: they want to be seen and they know they can
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: be seen by the major league team with highlights and
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: a home run and stuff instead of the stuff that
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: doesn't show up in the highlight or the box score.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Rather, right, because the certain things get you paid and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: others don't. So if you're going to get recognized and
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: certain things get you promoted and others don't, it does
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: trickle down, right, it does trickle down.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: I hate to bring up your shirt right now. Those
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: guys have gotten paid and they're not winning games. The
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: other stuff is so swinging out of your butt or
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: swinging for the fence. I'm just saying where it's like, yeah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: it can get you to get paid and get recognized
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: in your face on TV, but it's like are you
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: Are you promoting winning baseball?
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: And you're not.
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: And it's not just them, it's across the league a
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: lot of ways. But I think I always gravitated towards
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: the guys who play winning baseball. And you get a
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: guy over and I like we'd always preach in Cleveland.
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: It's like you get the job done, You're coming back
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: to a full team giving you high fives, like way
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: to go, good, job, and it's like I love that stuff.
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: Not the guy who's just like, great.
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: Home great, you're one for ten, but you hit a
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: five hundred foot home run, You're like, like, unless it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: a one zero game, great.
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: I don't know. That's how I've always been wired.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: So and you do see that even still with Cleveland,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and every player you talk to always says nowadays that
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it comes through Jose Ramirez and the way that he
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: plays because he's a superstar, and yet he does those
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: things pretty frequently, right, he does come up with those
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: team plays that aren't just the superstar plays, and sometimes
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: you don't see that from a superstar. I mean, we
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: had Reee Hoskins on the other day. He's been in
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a league for a while, He's played with plenty of stars.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: He like could not wait to talk about Jose Ramirez
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: for five seven minutes to start the interview.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: Jose Ramirez does everything superstars do. He hits home runs,
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: he fills the box scores. Jose Ramirez also does everything
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: a winning baseball player does. He does the little things.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: He takes the ball in the dirt and gets to
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: second base. He does like he leads by example and
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: like in the box score. So if your best player
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: does the little things, the rest of the lineup going
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: to fall in soon, and the rest of the team's
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: going to fall in suit and do the little things too.
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: That's how a lot of times it works.
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: That's why you want your best players leading by example,
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: and Jose Ramirez is the perfect person to do that
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: because he does the little things well as well as
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: the big things.