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The Macabre Adventures of Pumpkin MacLeod · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: This is PJ Souls, and you are totally listening to
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  Speaker 1: Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening.
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  Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: I love you, pumpkin.
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  Speaker 6: Boys and girls of every age Wouldn't you like to
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  Speaker 6: see something strange? Come with us and you will see
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  Speaker 6: It's our town of Halloween This is Halloween, this is
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  Speaker 6: Halloween Don't you scream, you're dead all.
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  Speaker 1: Night This is Halloween.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody may see.
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  Speaker 6: Don't you do it, it's gonna die right It's our town.
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  Speaker 2: Of Halloween.
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  Speaker 8: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 9: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 10: I'm Carl.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Marlena.
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  Speaker 11: I'm Jacqueline.
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  Speaker 12: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 13: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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  Speaker 13: from Gallery K here in dark nighttime creepy Louisville.
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  Speaker 8: Would you like to plug Gallery once more time?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, Gallery K in Butchertown.
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  Speaker 14: Come on down. 8 to 11.
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  Speaker 10: During the week.
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  Speaker 13: So this is our semi-annual... That's pretty annual the last
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  Speaker 13: three years now. So we're trying to make it a
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  Speaker 13: regular Halloween event.
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  Speaker 9: The Meltdown Macabre.
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  Speaker 13: Every year it's changed locations. It's been a different thing.
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  Speaker 13: So this year we decided to keep it super low key.
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  Speaker 13: And we were trying to come up with something that
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  Speaker 13: was different than our usual like, hey, let's watch a movie.
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  Speaker 13: Because we're going to do that as often as we
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  Speaker 13: can anyway. But I'm like, what else can we do
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  Speaker 13: that's very Halloween-y?
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  Speaker 9: And Jacqueline, what did you say?
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  Speaker 15: I said that we should paint pumpkins and watch cartoons,
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  Speaker 15: but the cartoons didn't happen.
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  Speaker 9: I did bring something.
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  Speaker 12: Hold on.
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  Speaker 9: Where's that bucket of crap?
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  Speaker 13: Rummage in there, Fred, and you'll find something from a
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  Speaker 13: very good friend of yours. I did find a VHS
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  Speaker 13: copy of Halloween directed by your babysitter.
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  Speaker 1: Have I mentioned that John Carpenter was my babysitter?
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  Speaker 13: On one of our most popular episodes, actually. I'm sure
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  Speaker 13: we can recap somewhere down the line. I think they've
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  Speaker 13: heard it once or twice now.
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  Speaker 16: I don't remember who I was telling, but I was
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  Speaker 16: actually telling someone the other day about how John Carpenter
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  Speaker 16: was your babysitter. And they were like, who?
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  Speaker 9: Wait, who?
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  Speaker 5: Meaning Fred or John Carpenter?
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  Speaker 9: That's my question. Either way, did you smack them?
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  Speaker 5: You were like.
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  Speaker 13: Number one, John Carpenter's a genius. Number two, so is Fred,
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  Speaker 13: and you should know.
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  Speaker 9: Who he is.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly. I think it was my best friend.
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  Speaker 1: The genius DNA is passed through the babysitter.
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  Speaker 5: I'm in trouble then.
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  Speaker 9: Father to babysitter on those special, special nights. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 9: That's not how you were scarred. I remember how you
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  Speaker 9: were scarred. It was a couple of different ways.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm scarred in many ways. Oh, you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: my other babysitter.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 13: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My Russian babysitter.
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  Speaker 8: Russian babysitter, which is a special memory.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, the John Carpenter part of the story, let's
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  Speaker 13: just reference people. Go listen to it. The episode is
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  Speaker 13: called John Carpenter Was My Babysitter, and you should go
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  Speaker 13: listen to it now because the John Carpenter half of
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  Speaker 13: the story is amazing. I didn't think you could one-up it,
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  Speaker 13: and then you did. I got midway into you telling
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  Speaker 13: the Russian story, and I was like.
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  Speaker 1: And the ball was hanging on the rim. You're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: anything else you want to say? And I'm like, no. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute.
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  Speaker 9: You did.
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  Speaker 8: You stumbled into it. And I'm just like, by the end,
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  Speaker 8: I'm just winded.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like.
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  Speaker 13: All right, we're going to have to take a break
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  Speaker 13: now after Fred's story.
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  Speaker 11: I'm like, Jesus.
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  Speaker 9: So.
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  Speaker 16: Do you think that you were the inspiration for Jamie
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  Speaker 16: Lee characters?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the funny thing about it. It's like, you know...
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  Speaker 1: That movie is about a babysitter. And so I think
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  Speaker 1: it was maybe like an alter ego, like he was
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  Speaker 1: the hero.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Was he the hero in your life?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I really don't remember it. I was too little.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember it. It was just something my mom
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  Speaker 1: always said. And then it was a cool thing to say,
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  Speaker 1: but I wasn't really confident of it because moms say
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: My mom has literally never said that.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 5: John Carpenter was your babysitter now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she said it, and then I started, like, investigating.
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  Speaker 1: I was, like, staying late at the bar, going over
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  Speaker 1: the old cold case.
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  Speaker 9: Wait, wait, was the microfiche involved?
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  Speaker 13: In this montage of your life, I see you late
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  Speaker 13: at night when you should have been kicked out of
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  Speaker 13: the library.
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  Speaker 1: Going over the clues.
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  Speaker 9: Going through the microfiche.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so what happened was I.
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  Speaker 1: Just looked him up and looked up his bio and
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  Speaker 1: mom's story checked out, which he grew up in Bowling Green.
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  Speaker 1: His parents taught at Western where my parents taught and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and the timeline fit the trajectory that I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what I was investigating, but then also, um, that encouraged
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  Speaker 1: me to ask my mom about it again.
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  Speaker 9: And, uh, shake down your mom.
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  Speaker 19: And, And she pulled out this thing like John Carpenter
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  Speaker 19: had written like a horror magazine on, and it was
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  Speaker 19: mimeographed on one of those old blue carbon things.
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  Speaker 9: Tabletop zine.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: It was, it was hardcore old school geek.
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  Speaker 9: He still has. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I actually had one when I was a
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  Speaker 1: kid because I was obsessed with him and my dad
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  Speaker 1: got me one and you know, you could get different
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  Speaker 1: color carbon papers so you could register them and Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember the smell of that fluid so vividly.
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  Speaker 9: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 8: I thought it was the babysitter scars, but it's just
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  Speaker 8: all that left over.
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  Speaker 1: It's all a bit. It smells like crazy to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I feel bad now because one of my, my signature
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  Speaker 1: on this show is not that John Carpenter was my babysitter,
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  Speaker 1: but repeating myself. I just tell the same stories. And
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about this earlier to my mom. I
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  Speaker 1: was saying how my son is like my worst nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Because he remembers everything I say. And he knows that
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  Speaker 1: I say like six things. And I just say them.
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  Speaker 19: Over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: And he just goes, ah, yeah. And he finishes the story.
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  Speaker 1: But my wife, on the other hand, is my best nightmare.
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  Speaker 9: She stopped listening to you a long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell her the same joke every week. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like she's never heard it. But also, she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think my jokes are funny, so it's a really low
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  Speaker 1: stakes game I'm playing.
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  Speaker 8: Somehow, knowing your sense of humor, I feel like that
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  Speaker 8: probably feeds it a little.
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  Speaker 1: You're just like, oh.
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  Speaker 9: Gonna tell you this again she.
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  Speaker 1: Did laugh at the part where i said well she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't think my jokes are funny so it's a low
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  Speaker 1: stakes game that she thought was.
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  Speaker 13: Funny the sad part is i think i know most
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  Speaker 13: of your jokes and stories so i i'm just gonna
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  Speaker 13: like i'm gonna be the the baseball manager now like
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  Speaker 13: when you get midway in i'm just gonna like brush
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  Speaker 13: my shoulder and give you some signals to feel second
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  Speaker 13: or you've already told this.
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  Speaker 1: Like a red light that goes on okay we're in
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  Speaker 1: reruns fred's in reruns again I'm.
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  Speaker 9: Just, steal second. I mean, skip that story.
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  Speaker 13: I need hand signals and gang signs or something to
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  Speaker 13: get the word across.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, people can listen to the original episode back
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  Speaker 1: when I was fresh and young and naive.
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  Speaker 13: And it's interesting that we're telling it like a few
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  Speaker 13: hundred feet away from John Carpenter. He's like right around
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  Speaker 13: the corner from us as we're telling that story.
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  Speaker 9: Isn't that funny? It is pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 14: It's going to be like a new Halloween tradition is
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  Speaker 14: Here in the John Carpenter was my babysitter story.
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  Speaker 9: Gather around the fire and you tell.
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  Speaker 13: The John Carpenter was my babysitter. And then the kids
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  Speaker 13: will scream and run out of the room.
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  Speaker 12: But it was.
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  Speaker 1: Also a kind of thing that people enjoyed because, in
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  Speaker 1: a sense, John Carpenter was all our babysitters. People can
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  Speaker 1: relate to it, even though he wasn't, in fact, their babysitter.
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  Speaker 19: They're like, kind of.
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  Speaker 9: I think everybody takes it that way. And I think
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  Speaker 9: that's when we made the t-shirts, which I need to
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  Speaker 9: redo because I want different artwork. I don't like that.
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  Speaker 12: Transfer at all.
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  Speaker 13: But so put your pre-orders in now, but yeah, I,
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  Speaker 13: we would, we would have them at the table and everybody.
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  Speaker 8: Would be just like, yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 9: Be like, well, all right.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, I'm not going to argue with you. If
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  Speaker 13: you want one, you can have one. But I'm like,
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  Speaker 13: I don't know if you're getting the full... I would
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  Speaker 13: try to tell them the real story at the table
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  Speaker 13: and they'd be like, yeah, okay. And they'd just buy
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  Speaker 13: it and walk on.
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  Speaker 8: But you're not fully appreciating your t-shirt.
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  Speaker 1: And then remember the Fonz walked over and said congratulations.
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  Speaker 20: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Henry Winkler walked up to.
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  Speaker 13: Fred and was like, oh, congratulations.
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  Speaker 8: You can't make those stories up.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you haven't taken my stories too seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know what he was saying congratulations about.
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  Speaker 1: If it was the shirt or the story. I was
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  Speaker 1: starting to tell the story and he just walked over.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him and, you know, like, hey, it's the Fonz.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, it's the Fonz.
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  Speaker 1: And he just walked over to me and was like, congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay. On meeting the Fonz?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What am I being congratulated?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you should be, truthfully.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was feeling at the moment. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm meeting the Fonz. He's like, congratulations.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulations.
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  Speaker 9: This is happening.
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  Speaker 13: Should I tell you to steal a second? Because I
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  Speaker 13: think we told that story on the same episode.
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  Speaker 8: So we're looping back into the creepy past.
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  Speaker 1: That happened on the episode. We didn't tell the story.
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  Speaker 9: That's true. We don't have to tell the story. It
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  Speaker 9: just happened. He walked up while we were recording. So
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  Speaker 9: you can't.
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  Speaker 8: You can't really make that kind of stuff up.
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  Speaker 1: Those were good times.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we're right in the middle of some good times
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  Speaker 8: right now.
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  Speaker 9: We're about ready to attack these pumpkins.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: And Jacqueline, what did you decide you're going to paint
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  Speaker 9: on yours?
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  Speaker 11: I'm going to paint my dog's face.
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  Speaker 15: In front of flames.
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  Speaker 9: Frightening.
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  Speaker 5: If you saw my dog, it would be frightening.
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  Speaker 9: I have seen your dog.
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  Speaker 5: She's terrifying.
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  Speaker 11: It's a little scary. She looks like the Gmork from
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  Speaker 11: The NeverEnding Story.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: That is my favorite part. I love that movie anyway,
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  Speaker 13: but that's my favorite part.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm holding the mic up to the picture.
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  Speaker 9: But I don't think it's working.
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  Speaker 8: You guys are scared at home.
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  Speaker 1: The comparison was accurate is all I can report.
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  Speaker 13: He's no luck dragon, but truthfully, I prefer the Gmork,
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  Speaker 13: so that's just me. So, have you seen anything interesting
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  Speaker 13: and or creepy, Jacqueline?
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  Speaker 14: No.
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  Speaker 11: Why, yes.
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  Speaker 15: Yesterday, I went to the Village 8, and I saw
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  Speaker 15: the movie Goodnight Mommy.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, scary.
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  Speaker 15: It was pretty deeply disturbing.
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  Speaker 8: You were already a little disturbed.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, not like lots of jump scares or anything like that,
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  Speaker 15: but I wasn't expecting that from a German art horror film.
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  Speaker 2: Depends.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 13: They might make you want to jump, but that's just
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  Speaker 13: with some sort of weird, creepy torture techniques.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's just the way they talk.
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  Speaker 12: Sorry, Jeremy.
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  Speaker 15: But no, I greatly enjoyed it. It has a very...
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  Speaker 15: A twist I didn't see coming.
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  Speaker 5: I saw it and I did see the twist coming.
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  Speaker 5: I saw your psychic. And if somebody who sees the
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  Speaker 5: twist coming, it's not a good movie because you're just
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  Speaker 5: sitting there being like, all right, I know what this
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  Speaker 5: movie is.
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  Speaker 11: And it was like such a classic twist.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well, of course.
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  Speaker 15: But the whole time it was more like I was like,
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  Speaker 15: but I knew I could to be like, I sympathize
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  Speaker 15: with the mom.
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  Speaker 11: I get it.
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  Speaker 15: I'm like, I'm already there, but I didn't make that
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  Speaker 15: next jump to that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to talk. About the movie at all
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  Speaker 5: without spoilers.
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  Speaker 11: No spoilers.
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  Speaker 9: It's still new.
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  Speaker 11: It is still new.
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  Speaker 9: We'll do a spoilerific episode.
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  Speaker 11: Did you enjoy the movie?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't actually like the movie that much. Because it
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  Speaker 5: kind of becomes torture porn at a point. And that
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  Speaker 5: is not my favorite kind of film.
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  Speaker 11: With small children.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Woohoo. That does sound fun.
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't get over that house though. Oh, my God,
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  Speaker 5: the house was the best part. That's where my brain
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  Speaker 5: was going when I stopped enjoying the film. I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 5: can we just pan back to the chairs? Can we
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  Speaker 5: just look at those chairs a little longer? Oh, my God,
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  Speaker 5: it was so good. It was like an Ikea catalog
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  Speaker 5: times a thousand. It was beautiful, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Ikea catalog times a thousand.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely the best character in the film.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And really the most articulated character in the film.
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  Speaker 9: I thought.
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  Speaker 7: Truly.
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  Speaker 13: The most developed of the relationships, the house. All right,
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  Speaker 13: interior designers out there, we have a spooky, spooky movie
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  Speaker 13: for you.
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  Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question, though?
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  Speaker 11: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, well, this might be spoilery, too.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Is that a thing in Austria where you're, like, walking
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  Speaker 5: around and then you open a door and it's just, like,
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: a big room full of skulls?
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  Speaker 9: Spoilers.
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  Speaker 5: It's not really spoilers. It's just a weird set piece
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  Speaker 5: in the film that they never explain.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: I actually, I'm thinking right now, like, I'm an anthropologist,
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  Speaker 15: and so, like, I know a lot of archaeologists, and
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  Speaker 15: over there... Yeah, it's just like, oops, I accidentally came
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  Speaker 15: upon a gigantic mass grave.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 15: So I didn't find that tomb or mass burial, whatever
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  Speaker 15: it was, to be particularly surprising.
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  Speaker 11: I was like, okay, not sure.
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  Speaker 7: Why not?
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  Speaker 16: Pretty much everywhere except for America. I walked into a
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  Speaker 16: churchyard in Romania. There's this random teeth that have been
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  Speaker 16: on the ground for the last 600 years. Like, random.
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  Speaker 10: Did you pocket them?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, come on. Souvenirs.
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  Speaker 5: That's a hard thing to get through customs, I would imagine.
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  Speaker 9: No, these are mine. I totally brought these with me.
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  Speaker 10: I harvested them myself.
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  Speaker 9: I keep my teeth with me at all times. Am
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  Speaker 9: I not supposed to keep them in my pocket?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, and their burials were a lot more shallow back then. So, like,
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  Speaker 15: erosion just happens, and then suddenly there's just, like, a
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  Speaker 15: ton of bodies everywhere.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was trying to figure out in that opening
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  Speaker 5: scene where the earth's all squishy and weird. Like, I
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  Speaker 5: guess I just don't really understand anything about Austria. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't get that.
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  Speaker 11: I was like, that seems very strange.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know if that had something to do with
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  Speaker 5: why they just throw their bodies in a shed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 16:06
  Speaker 9: Well, that's our history, though. We're the kids.
• 16:08
  Speaker 13: So, I mean, we're only a couple hundred years old.
• 16:10
  Speaker 13: We don't have thousands of years old. Well, I mean,
• 16:12
  Speaker 13: we do, but not our American-y society. We only bastardized
• 16:17
  Speaker 13: this country at that point, and So our society, I
• 16:21
  Speaker 13: like to look at it as the truth that was
• 16:23
  Speaker 13: told in L.A.
• 16:24
  Speaker 12: Story.
• 16:25
  Speaker 13: Some of these homes go back to the 1960s. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 13: think that sums up everything about our society. It's like
• 16:32
  Speaker 13: that's our ancient history.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: It must look pretty cute to Europeans when they see
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: businesses like established 19. Right.
• 16:39
  Speaker 13: Movie meltdown.
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: Annoying people since 2008. That's why I.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Bring it up.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: So any other creepy things you've seen?
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: I don't think.
• 16:50
  Speaker 18: Anyone?
• 16:51
  Speaker 15: No, I mean, except for that homeless guy that keeps
• 16:53
  Speaker 15: coming into Nancy's. That's the only other creepy thing that's
• 16:57
  Speaker 15: been around.
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: Eh, he's not that creepy. I'm probably going to hit
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: him with a giant stick.
• 17:01
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: Just saying. Because he has a stick.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned red flags, and I saw a red flag,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and that's not that creepy.
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: Which one is that one?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: The guy Ray from Girls. Alex Carpaccio. Harpovsky?
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: That sounds right. I'm going to accept that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 11: No, that's not right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Definitely not it. But let's run with it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever it is. I know his name. I know that, yeah,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm mixing it up. But he was in a movie,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Red Flag, with our friend's friend, you know, Jess's co-partner.
• 17:42
  Speaker 13: I'm going to say he steals second because didn't we
• 17:44
  Speaker 13: talk about this one last time?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Did we?
• 17:45
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It's Jennifer Prediger, and I think I said this last
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: time we did this.
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was Jennifer.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But see, Red Flag is just the segue.
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: Uh-oh, segue, all right. Get on the segue.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I got onto a Ray thing and started watching his
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: movies like the Woodpecker movie. He makes good movies. And
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the other one where he kills some lady. And I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: trying to think of the title of it. Yeah, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it was pretty creepy. It was pretty creepy and pretty believable,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and he was really good in it. Oh, but my
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: favorite one is his first movie, The Whole Story. It's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: just a great, great movie. I can't believe I can't
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: think of his name. It doesn't end with a ski.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It ends with an off, doesn't it?
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Only there were a device.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: We could pull out of our pockets and make this query.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to go without that, but I might
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: have to do it. But anyway, yeah, the creepy one,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: he's just this, it's just creepy. And I might have
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to actually find the title of it. But I got
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: on sort of a binge because I saw one of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: his movies, Red Flag, and then I saw another, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: they're good movies. And the whole story is just one
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of my favorite movies.
• 19:13
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: What year?
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know how long his career has been.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been that long. He was an anthropologist. He
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was studying at Oxford.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Oxford?
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And he got his first, you know, they do degrees
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: like in levels. And he got the first degree you
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: can get in a certain amount of time. But during
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that time, it was the first time, because his dad
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: taught where he went to school in Boston, and he
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: just felt like he never got away from home and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: away from, and just tried being a different person. and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: when he did get away from home in England he
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: started doing improv and he just really liked it and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: he he just shifted entirely what he was doing and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the whole story is about a guy kind of like
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: him who is trying to do a pilot for a
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: series where he goes to little small towns and solves mysteries.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And so he goes to a little town in, I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: guess it's Minnesota or Wisconsin, where the lake is frozen over,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: but like one area of it has just thawed and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it's just water now in the dead of winter and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: nobody knows why. But he gets there and starts to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: film it and it's frozen over again. And so he's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: trying to get the pilot made despite the subject being gone.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And it's just delightful.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: And the name of this movie is?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The whole story. H-O-L-E.
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: Interesting.
• 21:00
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's desperate and funny. And it has twists in
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: it that you don't see well. I mean, they're not unreasonable.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: It's life-size. It's like, well, you can see that happening. Yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I'm going to be really embarrassed
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: if it is Karpovsky, after all.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: You're going to have an egg on your face.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I can't think of the name of the movie where
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he kills somebody. Spoiler alert.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I was about to say, I hope that's at the
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: beginning of the movie.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's actually like if you look up
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the movie. They kind of tell you what the deal is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: Don't look up the movie.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Alex.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Here, I'm going to hand this. Fact check myself.
• 21:52
  Speaker 16: I've watched a few movies lately. I think I mentioned
• 21:54
  Speaker 16: last time. I've been weirdly obsessed with cannibal movies lately.
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: You do have a problem.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I know.
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: You were gnawing on an arm when you came in.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, it is Karpovsky.
• 22:06
  Speaker 16: You really goofed this time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: I hope you're pleased with yourself.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: Back to your chewing on people's arms.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Live update.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Breaking news. Breaking news. Fred had it right the first time.
• 22:27
  Speaker 16: So, I've just been watching, like, I mean, I saw
• 22:30
  Speaker 16: Green and Brown. But Cannibal, but then, of course, I
• 22:34
  Speaker 16: watched Cannibal Holocaust.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: You wanted to watch Cannibal Holocaust.
• 22:36
  Speaker 21: You know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 16: Cannibal of Ferrix, which is basically like the exact same movie.
• 22:40
  Speaker 16: And it even has the same people. So it's really confusing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 16: It's weird. But there's a whole bunch of other cannibal
• 22:47
  Speaker 16: movies that I'm super excited to watch.
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: There's quite a few out there.
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 16: It was like a big genre in the 70s and
• 22:54
  Speaker 16: 80s for some stranger.
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: It became a thing.
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: They can make it for cheap, probably.
• 22:59
  Speaker 16: I think it's just my anthropology side that's like super
• 23:02
  Speaker 16: into that.
• 23:03
  Speaker 21: Anthropologists are weirdos.
• 23:04
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: Have we mentioned that?
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 22: But just not, baby, when it comes to you I
• 23:18
  Speaker 22: get so hungry when you say you love me And
• 23:20
  Speaker 22: you know what's good for you I think you're hot,
• 23:22
  Speaker 22: I think you're cool You're the kind of guy I'd
• 23:24
  Speaker 22: stalk in school But now that I'm famous, you're up
• 23:26
  Speaker 22: my anus Now I'm gonna eat you, fool I eat
• 23:29
  Speaker 22: boys up, breakfast and lunch Then when I'm thirsty.
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: I drink their blood.
• 23:36
  Speaker 22: Carnivore animal, I am a cannibal I eat boys up,
• 23:42
  Speaker 22: you better run Run.
• 23:43
  Speaker 14: Run, run.
• 23:52
  Speaker 20: I am Candy Boy.
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: I'll eat you.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Up.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: I am Candy Boy. I am.
• 24:07
  Speaker 20: Candy Boy.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: I'll eat you up.
• 24:13
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• 24:49
  Speaker 18: How much can the human mind stand? Do you dare
• 24:55
  Speaker 18: pit your sanity against our marathon of fright?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Shock follows shock.
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  Speaker 18: Your breath comes in gasps, hearts fold. Then, the mind explodes.
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  Speaker 5: I saw a scary movie.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: They Look Like People.
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: Good segue, Lucy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't even know I was doing it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: Since our special guest this episode is McLeod Andrews, star
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: of They Look Like People.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Wait, is that a real thing?
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I didn't even know that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: You want to go to his interview right now?
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Let's do it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 17: I feel so cheated right now.
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: Well, that's the thing.
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: It's like, I saw the five, and I was just like, eh,
• 27:25
  Speaker 13: it's not much different than what I got.
• 27:26
  Speaker 18: But, like, once.
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: And mine was always, like, I needed.
• 27:30
  Speaker 22: one more mic.
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: Like almost all the time now it's like you can
• 27:33
  Speaker 13: and one of the other attachments is another two prong
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: so you can do six six plugins yeah and I'm
• 27:40
  Speaker 13: just like that like that's all you'll ever need like I.
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: Don't need a board anymore like.
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: I can do six on this.
• 27:47
  Speaker 17: Like you don't need more than three you see we
• 27:50
  Speaker 17: should just be recording this conversation because this is the
• 27:53
  Speaker 17: this is it this is the good stuff right here guys.
• 27:57
  Speaker 21: Going oh what kind of zoom is that man Is
• 28:00
  Speaker 21: that an H6?
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: That's almost how every interview starts. That's right. Everybody's just like.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Wait, which one is that?
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: Everybody knows.
• 28:07
  Speaker 21: Right, they all know. They're super handy tools. This is
• 28:11
  Speaker 21: three for me.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: I upgraded twice.
• 28:15
  Speaker 17: We made a mistake when we shot the film that
• 28:18
  Speaker 17: actually we're just about to see. They look like people we...
• 28:21
  Speaker 17: We were running 4channel on an H4N and.
• 28:27
  Speaker 17: We didn't know at the time that it mixes it
• 28:29
  Speaker 17: all down to a single track. Because this one, this
• 28:33
  Speaker 17: separates them all out, right?
• 28:34
  Speaker 21: Yeah, this will break it out, which is amazing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah, because we.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 21: Exactly. And we had.
• 28:58
  Speaker 17: So many takes where the sound was just ruined because
• 29:01
  Speaker 17: the lav was mixed in with the boom.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: And.
• 29:06
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 17: Well, cool.
• 29:07
  Speaker 21: I'm giddy.
• 29:08
  Speaker 25: Thanks for joining us for Audiophile Geekery.
• 29:12
  Speaker 21: My pleasure. What's up?
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: We're here with the potty.
• 29:19
  Speaker 21: What's up, guys?
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: I'm great. Other than this wonderful technology that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 21: We're... I know, we're geeking out.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: But.
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: I guess we're mostly focusing on this movie for this
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: time around.
• 29:34
  Speaker 12: As I said.
• 29:35
  Speaker 21: I'm looking at this and I'm just like, we just
• 29:36
  Speaker 21: doubled our budget.
• 29:37
  Speaker 25: So, um I guess just to get into this movie
• 29:42
  Speaker 25: so this is they look like people um yes you
• 29:46
  Speaker 25: are the star but also.
• 29:48
  Speaker 17: Co-producer yes so how did this movie find you find
• 29:52
  Speaker 17: me um I think we all found each other this
• 29:56
  Speaker 17: this movie found us uh We went to school together, me,
• 30:02
  Speaker 17: my co-star and co-producer Evan, and the director, writer, producer Perry.
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: We all went to school together and we made a
• 30:11
  Speaker 17: bunch of short films together when we were in school.
• 30:13
  Speaker 21: And we all went.
• 30:15
  Speaker 17: Off after school to pursue professional lives in various forms.
• 30:21
  Speaker 17: And Exactly, whatever it is we do. And we just
• 30:26
  Speaker 17: found ourselves missing the freedom of just collaborating together and.
• 30:34
  Speaker 21: Just having complete creative control over what we were doing.
• 30:37
  Speaker 21: And so we got in touch.
• 30:39
  Speaker 17: And the script itself is kind of a Hail Mary
• 30:43
  Speaker 17: from Perry.
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: That's why going into these, I feel like, I don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: know what I'm getting myself into, but I always try
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: to keep it a little light on the details for
• 30:58
  Speaker 13: the listeners as well, because it's like you don't want
• 31:00
  Speaker 13: to ruin, especially these type of movies, you don't want
• 31:02
  Speaker 13: to ruin anything. So it's like, I guess we get
• 31:05
  Speaker 13: into more of the overall putting it together more than
• 31:08
  Speaker 13: the story and details.
• 31:11
  Speaker 21: Right, right, right.
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: We can talk story after the fact and see if
• 31:15
  Speaker 17: it worked or it didn't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: Check back in after a while, after people have seen it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 13: So I guess just piecing it together when did the
• 31:22
  Speaker 13: the plot come together and then when did you guys
• 31:25
  Speaker 13: start putting the the actual filming.
• 31:27
  Speaker 17: Together sure sure um well originally i guess we decided
• 31:31
  Speaker 17: to shoot the film in order to give ourselves a
• 31:34
  Speaker 17: a timeline we four months out from shooting we bought
• 31:39
  Speaker 17: plane tickets for myself and evan the other actor uh
• 31:43
  Speaker 17: to fly out to new york so we just The
• 31:46
  Speaker 17: pressure was really on Perry, like, we've got to have
• 31:48
  Speaker 17: a script at that point.
• 31:49
  Speaker 21: We've got to have a film.
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: It would be nice.
• 31:50
  Speaker 21: Yeah, it would be nice.
• 31:52
  Speaker 17: And so we started working on another project, and about
• 31:56
  Speaker 17: three months in, he gave us a call and said, guys,
• 32:01
  Speaker 17: so I'm really excited about this script, but it's not
• 32:05
  Speaker 17: going to work.
• 32:05
  Speaker 21: Like, we can't shoot it amongst ourselves.
• 32:09
  Speaker 17: So I'm going to try something different.
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: So just story.
• 32:14
  Speaker 13: ironing out the details at that point exactly that's a
• 32:18
  Speaker 13: tough call to make because there's plenty of people that
• 32:20
  Speaker 13: I feel like probably would just be like oh well
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: let's just go with it we'll wing it and you
• 32:24
  Speaker 13: usually see that on the screen yeah well that's one
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: of the things that's incredible about Perry that is he's
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: like he's like a ninja warrior he's the guy you
• 32:33
  Speaker 13: want on your side you know he's the guy with
• 32:35
  Speaker 13: all the tricks he's just his brain's a mile a
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: minute he's like an idea factory it's insane but the
• 32:41
  Speaker 13: thing is they're all rich ideas they're all they aren't
• 32:45
  Speaker 13: first choice.
• 32:45
  Speaker 17: They're all kind of grounded in really thoughtful, quirky, personal
• 32:53
  Speaker 17: observations and then couched in really entertaining genre. So he
• 32:59
  Speaker 17: came up with this idea and it was loosely based
• 33:03
  Speaker 17: on an actual experience he had with a friend of
• 33:04
  Speaker 17: his who was going through a very trying time in
• 33:08
  Speaker 17: his life. He broke up with his girlfriend, lost his job,
• 33:12
  Speaker 17: everything was kind of spiraling out of control and he
• 33:14
  Speaker 17: was finding it very difficult to trust people and to
• 33:17
  Speaker 17: the extent where he was starting to entertain really outlandish
• 33:23
  Speaker 17: conspiracy theories.
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: We head down that road sometimes.
• 33:27
  Speaker 21: Yeah, we do. And that's actually sort of at the
• 33:33
  Speaker 21: heart of the film, we feel, is that this isn't
• 33:35
  Speaker 21: about a crazy person.
• 33:38
  Speaker 16: It's that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 21: We all dip in and out.
• 33:42
  Speaker 17: Of these perspectives sometimes where things just don't make sense,
• 33:47
  Speaker 17: where things aren't lining up to different degrees.
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: You start forming new theories and what you feel like
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: suddenly starts to make sense.
• 33:55
  Speaker 17: Right, about how things work and about how the world
• 33:57
  Speaker 17: is and what your place is in it. And so
• 34:01
  Speaker 17: his friend had told him at one point that if
• 34:05
  Speaker 17: he hadn't had close family and friends around him, he
• 34:08
  Speaker 17: probably would have wound up dead.
• 34:11
  Speaker 21: Or in jail.
• 34:13
  Speaker 17: And, you know, he pulled out of it and is,
• 34:17
  Speaker 17: you know, living a perfectly happy, what we would call
• 34:19
  Speaker 17: normal life now.
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: But it planted that seed of, what if he didn't
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: pull out of it? What if he didn't?
• 34:28
  Speaker 21: Or what if it was more extreme? What if it
• 34:30
  Speaker 21: just kind of kept going down that path?
• 34:34
  Speaker 17: And so it's sort of, the film ended up, so
• 34:38
  Speaker 17: that was the seed, and then With that kind of
• 34:42
  Speaker 17: kernel of friendship and devotion to one another and needing
• 34:45
  Speaker 17: people to help us get our groundings, on top of
• 34:48
  Speaker 17: that we had the nature of the production itself where
• 34:53
  Speaker 17: us three as friends were coming together to take a
• 34:55
  Speaker 17: big risk together and to sort of leap off the
• 34:59
  Speaker 17: bridge and just hope that we'd catch each other. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 17: that ended up informing the film as well. And the
• 35:06
  Speaker 17: film really ended up becoming kind of an homage to
• 35:10
  Speaker 17: friendship and loyalty and taking risks for one another in
• 35:15
  Speaker 17: a really interesting way that I don't think Perry was expecting.
• 35:18
  Speaker 17: As Perry said multiple times, it by accident ended up
• 35:21
  Speaker 17: becoming the most personal film that he's made to date.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: It's kind of amazing when that stuff happens.
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 21: But I think we all like it that way.
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: We like.
• 35:32
  Speaker 17: the organic thing that happens with collaboration and, uh, and, uh,
• 35:38
  Speaker 17: and that's why we came together and made a film
• 35:40
  Speaker 17: the way we did so that we could find those
• 35:42
  Speaker 17: little discoveries so that we could really create something unique and, uh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 17: and personal.
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: Well, usually around this time of year we get into
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: the horror themes and run with them.
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: Um, would you consider this full on horror?
• 35:58
  Speaker 21: No, I wouldn't consider it full on horror.
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 21: Uh, definitely not. Um, And in fact, we were a
• 36:03
  Speaker 21: little hesitant to even call it horror. We were like,
• 36:07
  Speaker 21: is it horror?
• 36:08
  Speaker 17: See, the thing is, stylistically and in the techniques used,
• 36:15
  Speaker 17: both directorially and editorially, it definitely trades on horror tropes.
• 36:24
  Speaker 17: And scenes take the shape of a horror film. But
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: the intent isn't the same as a horror film, where
• 36:35
  Speaker 17: we're not really going for the jump scare. We're not
• 36:39
  Speaker 17: really trying to make you uncomfortable. It's certainly part of it,
• 36:44
  Speaker 17: but we tend to call it more a psychological thriller.
• 36:51
  Speaker 17: We've sort of landed on describing it as a heartfelt
• 36:53
  Speaker 17: indie drama wrapped up in a psychological thriller shell.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: With horrific elements.
• 36:59
  Speaker 21: Yeah, with horrific elements. I think some people have taken
• 37:04
  Speaker 21: to calling it a psychobromance, which we.
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: I.
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: Might steer away from that. That seems like trouble, doesn't it?
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: Does it?
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: If I saw that, I'm not sure I would go
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: jump in that line.
• 37:16
  Speaker 21: Bill and Ted's Terrible Adventure? I didn't want to.
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: See that third Bill and Tad. I mean, we're all
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: kind of waiting for that, right? Is that happening? Last
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: I heard, they were both. Is the other guy not dead? Yeah,
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: Alex is a filmmaker now.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Oh, sweet.
• 37:30
  Speaker 21: I'll probably just put my foot in my mouth. He's
• 37:31
  Speaker 21: probably like, really?
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: He was going to hire you, but not now.
• 37:34
  Speaker 21: I am an ignorant asshole.
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: But yeah, last I heard, even Keanu was on board. Sweet,
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: of course.
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: Why wouldn't he be?
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: I don't know. So it'll be interesting.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: Somehow we veered into Bill and Ted.
• 37:48
  Speaker 21: Yeah, of course. As all good conversations do.
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: But were you just, again, because we're in the midst
• 37:55
  Speaker 13: of horror, were you an old school horror fan coming up?
• 38:00
  Speaker 21: I'm a wuss.
• 38:01
  Speaker 11: That's true.
• 38:02
  Speaker 21: See, I mean, like The Exorcist is one of my
• 38:05
  Speaker 21: favorite movies. See, that's pretty hardcore.
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: That still holds up.
• 38:08
  Speaker 21: It does hold up. It really does. But that shit
• 38:10
  Speaker 21: made me, I mean, that stuff made me.
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: You can say it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 17: Okay, cool.
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: Uh i mean i.
• 38:15
  Speaker 17: Still for years like i would just sit in my
• 38:18
  Speaker 17: bed being like what if something takes over my body
• 38:21
  Speaker 17: what if demons are real oh my god like it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 17: yet to be seen yeah it's yet to.
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: Be seen we'll find out eventually.
• 38:29
  Speaker 17: We will um no like i don't i don't go
• 38:32
  Speaker 17: in much for for i guess what's come to be
• 38:36
  Speaker 17: known as gore porn like i don't want to see
• 38:38
  Speaker 17: people getting cut.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: Up i mean that's That's its own sub-genre at this point.
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 38:43
  Speaker 17: It has kind of become a sub-genre. But, I mean, obviously,
• 38:45
  Speaker 17: that doesn't encapsulate all of what horror is. I mean, Halloween,
• 38:50
  Speaker 17: the first Halloween, is incredibly suspenseful, and you don't... There's very.
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: Body count is minimal.
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: Minimal.
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: Maybe, like, three?
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Like, it's pretty minimal.
• 38:59
  Speaker 9: And it's kind of like.
• 39:00
  Speaker 21: Friday the 13th, too. It's like you don't really... get
• 39:03
  Speaker 21: into it until later.
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: It's only later it becomes the big ridiculous.
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: Show yeah you know that first couple especially halloween halloween
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: is just amazing like to this day like every year
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: at this time i'm just like yeah no really let's
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: sing the praises of halloween.
• 39:17
  Speaker 17: Yeah gosh but i can say also what about those
• 39:20
  Speaker 17: soundtracks like i mean that's some i think some of
• 39:22
  Speaker 17: the most like innovative and exciting like sound design like
• 39:27
  Speaker 17: and scoring.
• 39:28
  Speaker 13: Just like the carpenter stuff or yeah again the director
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: doing it all himself that's the thing it's kind of
• 39:36
  Speaker 13: an auteur vision even though we don't tend to consider
• 39:39
  Speaker 13: horror film directors as auteurs like i feel like it's
• 39:43
  Speaker 13: absolutely appropriate yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 17: Because it does lend itself towards that DIY, you know,
• 39:53
  Speaker 17: one-man band sort of production.
• 39:55
  Speaker 13: Back then, yeah, it was especially the horror because they
• 39:58
  Speaker 13: were also low budget. It was very indie film when
• 40:01
  Speaker 13: indie film wasn't what it is, what we know it
• 40:03
  Speaker 13: as now.
• 40:04
  Speaker 21: Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 13: Where now, like, indie filmmakers have, like, latched onto horror.
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: And it's a lot of times it's because it's more
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: affordable than, you know, it's harder to do a sci-fi epic,
• 40:13
  Speaker 13: but like a horror movie, we can slap that together.
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: So sure. Yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: I think it lends itself to different types of filmmakers,
• 40:21
  Speaker 13: but yeah, I don't know.
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: I guess getting back to yours.
• 40:24
  Speaker 13: So, so your approach going more from a psychological angle,
• 40:29
  Speaker 13: I guess, what did you then need to bring to it.
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: As the actor?
• 40:32
  Speaker 21: As the actor?
• 40:33
  Speaker 17: Um, I think given our, just the, the way we
• 40:40
  Speaker 17: made the film, the most important thing I could bring
• 40:43
  Speaker 17: was an, an adaptability was a readiness to, to like
• 40:49
  Speaker 17: run with an idea and, and, and surrender to a scene,
• 40:56
  Speaker 17: but also keep hammering at a seam and also to
• 40:59
  Speaker 17: let go. Like it was a very, it's one of the,
• 41:03
  Speaker 17: hardest things you go to bed being like oh god
• 41:05
  Speaker 17: I missed that beat like you know like I just
• 41:07
  Speaker 17: didn't get to the emotional place I wanted to or
• 41:09
  Speaker 17: like I'm just like what if it was just big
• 41:12
  Speaker 17: fakery and with the way that we made the film
• 41:16
  Speaker 17: and I really love this is because it was so
• 41:19
  Speaker 17: immersive and all hands on deck you know Evan and
• 41:22
  Speaker 17: I were not just We were usually running sound, too,
• 41:27
  Speaker 17: and we were loving ourselves.
• 41:29
  Speaker 21: I was doing makeup.
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: True indie filmmaking.
• 41:31
  Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: You are seven jobs. Yeah, we give a moment.
• 41:34
  Speaker 21: And Perry had 7,000 jobs. But that didn't give you
• 41:39
  Speaker 21: the luxury of sitting and pondering your scene too much.
• 41:46
  Speaker 21: But I think that's great. It's so easy to get
• 41:48
  Speaker 21: up your own ass when.
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: acting.
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: It forces you to be in the moment.
• 41:52
  Speaker 12: Exactly.
• 41:52
  Speaker 17: To be on screen and off screen. And to ask yourself, like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 17: how can I make this scene better? That's what's most important.
• 41:58
  Speaker 17: How can I make this movie better? And, and that
• 42:00
  Speaker 17: to me is, I think the best, the, the, the,
• 42:05
  Speaker 17: the most important job of an actor is to ask,
• 42:07
  Speaker 17: how can I help this story? And it's really easy
• 42:10
  Speaker 17: to like, want to, you know, want to be the next,
• 42:15
  Speaker 17: take your pick of really hyper emotive, uh, badass actors.
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: Danny Trejo.
• 42:22
  Speaker 21: Danny Trejo.
• 42:23
  Speaker 13: That's what you're going for, the next Danny Trejo.
• 42:28
  Speaker 21: I have a vest full of throwing knives.
• 42:32
  Speaker 13: That's well, I mean, they tried to stop you at
• 42:34
  Speaker 13: the door. I didn't know if this was the best
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: place to wear that, but they do have metal detectors here.
• 42:38
  Speaker 21: I find all places are the best place. There's no
• 42:40
  Speaker 21: bad place for throwing knives.
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: Always appropriate.
• 42:42
  Speaker 21: It's always appropriate.
• 42:43
  Speaker 13: For a bandolier full of throwing knives.
• 42:45
  Speaker 21: Yeah, my tuxedo throwing knife.
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: Jacket seems fine to me but totally so do you this.
• 42:52
  Speaker 13: Has been hitting a lot of different film fests and
• 42:54
  Speaker 13: getting really good response do you know where it's going
• 42:58
  Speaker 13: have you guys pinned down the as far as distribution oh.
• 43:01
  Speaker 17: Yeah we actually just inked a deal we actually just
• 43:05
  Speaker 17: sold it um we're pretty happy with the deal uh
• 43:08
  Speaker 17: we are excited about the company we're working with i
• 43:10
  Speaker 17: don't think we're allowed to announce it yet it hasn't
• 43:12
  Speaker 17: been publicly put out there.
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: So we know that it will make it to people.
• 43:16
  Speaker 21: It will make it to people.
• 43:17
  Speaker 17: You will be able to download it on your favorite
• 43:21
  Speaker 17: streaming services, and there will hopefully be a... Well, actually,
• 43:26
  Speaker 17: not hopefully. I think there has to be at least
• 43:29
  Speaker 17: a short theatrical release of it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 17: So, you know, we'll probably forewall it in a theater
• 43:35
  Speaker 17: for a week in New York or L.A.
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 43:37
  Speaker 21: You know, knock on wood, it gets to go more, but.
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: At least, you know.
• 43:44
  Speaker 21: But, like, you'll be able to do VOD.
• 43:46
  Speaker 13: At this point, just getting it out there sometimes. Like,
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: I have seen films at film festivals that are amazing and, like,
• 43:53
  Speaker 13: never get a deal. And, like, that has to kill you,
• 43:56
  Speaker 13: you know?
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: I know, right?
• 43:57
  Speaker 21: It's so hard. It's frightening to think you put that
• 43:59
  Speaker 21: much work. Even getting a deal, like, the majority of
• 44:03
  Speaker 21: films that do sell sell for literally no money.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: At this point, it's just like, can I get it
• 44:08
  Speaker 13: to people? It's just back end.
• 44:10
  Speaker 21: And even then sometimes they're like, listen, we'll go ahead
• 44:13
  Speaker 21: and put your film up, but we're going to take 70%.
• 44:15
  Speaker 21: And you're like, oh.
• 44:18
  Speaker 13: It's that or it sits in my room on my
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: card for the rest of my life.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: And I show it to friends.
• 44:25
  Speaker 17: Yeah, and it's such a tricky timeline of like, will
• 44:29
  Speaker 17: my film start to pick up steam and can I
• 44:31
  Speaker 17: get a better deal later? Or do I need to
• 44:33
  Speaker 17: just sell now because it's the best shot I'm going
• 44:35
  Speaker 17: to get?
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: And then now you get into international distribution. Oh, God.
• 44:39
  Speaker 21: I'm so scared.
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: It gets so complicated at that point. I'm so terrified.
• 44:42
  Speaker 17: We're just starting to tiptoe into the international distribution, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 17: it's scary.
• 44:49
  Speaker 13: What do you think of the new, because especially upcoming filmmakers,
• 44:54
  Speaker 13: I always kind of use them to gauge, what do
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: you think of the system as it stands now.
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: Versus the way it used to be in these last
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: 15 years?
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: 180 return.
• 45:04
  Speaker 17: That's way too big a question for me. I don't
• 45:07
  Speaker 17: have the wisdom or experience to be able to.
• 45:10
  Speaker 21: Say one way or the other.
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: It's a homework exam. We'll come back later.
• 45:14
  Speaker 17: We'll do a whole episode on that. We have been
• 45:20
  Speaker 17: told it's the worst time to sell an indie film.
• 45:27
  Speaker 17: It's the worst and best. Gone are the days when
• 45:29
  Speaker 17: you can sell a DIY indie film for a million bucks.
• 45:34
  Speaker 17: You can't do that anymore. You can't even really sell
• 45:37
  Speaker 17: it for 100 grand. So that golden ticket era is
• 45:43
  Speaker 17: kind of behind us.
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: Gone. It may never return.
• 45:45
  Speaker 21: It may never return. It probably won't.
• 45:47
  Speaker 17: But the difference is you have so many more outlets
• 45:50
  Speaker 17: through which to get your work out there.
• 45:52
  Speaker 21: There's so many more.
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: That's what I've felt. And I think kind of knocking that.
• 45:58
  Speaker 13: Hopefully knocking that stepping stool of people that just want
• 46:02
  Speaker 13: to get into it to make money, which I feel
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: like there's a lot of filmmakers that's still like, you
• 46:06
  Speaker 13: can feel that in their film. Like this is the
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: cash grab at best there was.
• 46:10
  Speaker 21: Right. And now insert the, the shower scene.
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 13: It's like, if you take that out of play, it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 13: like all you're left with are people that have genuine artistic,
• 46:20
  Speaker 13: you know, interests and want to put together a good
• 46:23
  Speaker 13: movie and they know they're probably not going to make
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: much money at it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: You know, it's like that. I think we end up,
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: kind of weeding through people yeah.
• 46:31
  Speaker 17: And it's tempting too you start thinking like you start
• 46:33
  Speaker 17: trying to think well that last one was a success
• 46:36
  Speaker 17: like we should start trying to play to the audience
• 46:38
  Speaker 17: now that we know a little bit more we should
• 46:40
  Speaker 17: try and like we know that distributors like x y
• 46:42
  Speaker 17: or z yeah as opposed to just like focusing on
• 46:47
  Speaker 17: making a great film that you love first and then hoping.
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: That Yeah, it finds its audience.
• 46:53
  Speaker 21: It all depends on your circumstance.
• 46:55
  Speaker 17: If you're depending on that to make money or you
• 46:57
  Speaker 17: have investors who you need to pay back, it changes
• 47:00
  Speaker 17: the calculus in a big way.
• 47:02
  Speaker 21: We did everything we could to avoid that, to avoid
• 47:06
  Speaker 21: having to answer to anybody.
• 47:09
  Speaker 13: I know that fight. That's why I've ended up where
• 47:12
  Speaker 13: I am. Because I can do this my way.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: And not make any money just like that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure.
• 47:18
  Speaker 21: But it's still like, it's gratifying.
• 47:21
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: I think it, again, it gives you a chance to
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: create what you want to create and put it out
• 47:27
  Speaker 13: there in the world the way that you want it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 17: And like when you don't have an excess of funding,
• 47:32
  Speaker 17: you can... it forces you to be more creative.
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: Massively. I mean, I've said that for many years.
• 47:38
  Speaker 13: Like, you can look at directors and, like, those early
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: films will be amazing.
• 47:41
  Speaker 21: Oh, yeah, like, look at Mean Streets and it's just, like,
• 47:44
  Speaker 21: everything you need to know.
• 47:45
  Speaker 13: You watch them 15 years later when they have millions
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: of dollars thrown at them and you're like, this.
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: Is so lazy.
• 47:52
  Speaker 21: It's just, like, so batshit.
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: It becomes lazy filmmaking at that point because they know
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: they don't have to fight for it.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Because.
• 47:59
  Speaker 21: That's the thing.
• 48:00
  Speaker 17: Usually there's your first choice, and when you're constricted by
• 48:03
  Speaker 17: your resources, it's cool.
• 48:06
  Speaker 21: We can't do that. Then you go, okay, what's my
• 48:08
  Speaker 21: second choice?
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: How do I make this work?
• 48:10
  Speaker 21: When you have all the resources, it's like, this is
• 48:12
  Speaker 21: my first choice. You go, great, and it's done.
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: I know no one's going to question my first choice.
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: They're going to deliver it to me. I think it
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: forces you to get super creative, and you get better
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: films along the way.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Hopefully.
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely. Well, what is the best way for people
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: to find out, go to the website, or what's.
• 48:30
  Speaker 21: The best way? I'd say right now is probably the
• 48:32
  Speaker 21: best way.
• 48:33
  Speaker 17: It's www.theylooklikepeople.com, and we're on Twitter, at looklikepeople is, I think,
• 48:39
  Speaker 17: our handle, and Facebook.
• 48:40
  Speaker 21: You know, those are kind of our little landing pads.
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: The media outlets.
• 48:45
  Speaker 21: The media outlets.
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: We have to make use of them. Sometimes they're ridiculous. Yeah.
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: We have to make use of them.
• 48:49
  Speaker 17: And actually, you know, like, I don't, like, I hate being,
• 48:52
  Speaker 17: I don't want to be, like, a shill for Amazon, but, like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 17: IMDB is a good aggregator. A lot of reviews are
• 49:01
  Speaker 17: up on IMDB. People go there for a reason, even
• 49:06
  Speaker 17: though it sucks your soul a little bit.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: A little bit.
• 49:09
  Speaker 21: A little bit.
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: It can be functional.
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 49:11
  Speaker 21: It's very functional.
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: It is.
• 49:13
  Speaker 21: It's a good resource.
• 49:15
  Speaker 17: Um so those are the best places i think to
• 49:18
  Speaker 17: keep keep up to date all right with what's going
• 49:20
  Speaker 17: on and then hopefully we'll have some time to edit
• 49:23
  Speaker 17: the next one.
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: I know that feeling every week i'm like okay i
• 49:29
  Speaker 13: recorded a great episode.
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: When am i gonna have time to edit it right
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: right trying.
• 49:32
  Speaker 21: To get it out to people And it's tough because
• 49:35
  Speaker 21: you're like, I know it's sitting there.
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: It exists.
• 49:37
  Speaker 21: And you lose your momentum.
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: I'm halfway in on it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 13: I'm processing sound files and cleaning them up and making
• 49:43
  Speaker 13: it better. And like, yeah, but it takes eight more
• 49:46
  Speaker 13: hours to piece this last part together.
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: I'm like, good God. So I only imagine how much
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: that's multiplied when doing a feature film.
• 49:54
  Speaker 21: Absolutely.
• 49:55
  Speaker 13: But again, we'll send people out there to go find
• 49:58
  Speaker 13: it and definitely check it out.
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: Let's go watch it right now.
• 50:02
  Speaker 21: Yeah, I was going to say, if you want to
• 50:03
  Speaker 21: see it, you might miss.
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: Let's go watch it. So thanks for talking with us.
• 50:07
  Speaker 21: Thank you so much. It was fun.
• 50:19
  Speaker 13: So thank you to McCloud for sitting down and talking
• 50:21
  Speaker 13: with me and giving us his horror picks for our
• 50:24
  Speaker 13: creepy Halloween episode. Little did you know you were going
• 50:26
  Speaker 13: to be on the same episode as McCloud.
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  Speaker 5: I did, and I feel really honored right now. I'm
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: a little starstruck.
• 50:32
  Speaker 13: So, yeah, that was from IF Film Fest here in Louisville,
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: put together by Louisville Film Society.
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: So thank you to them.
• 50:40
  Speaker 13: They put together a really good festival this year, so
• 50:43
  Speaker 13: I did want to say thank you for letting us
• 50:45
  Speaker 13: join in. And they've got more stuff in the works
• 50:48
  Speaker 13: that will be sort of, I think they're trying to
• 50:50
  Speaker 13: get back onto doing their own full-fledged film fest, which
• 50:53
  Speaker 13: they've kind of, switched things around these last few years,
• 50:56
  Speaker 13: so I think they're going to get back to that. So,
• 50:59
  Speaker 13: to see what they're up to next time around, go
• 51:01
  Speaker 13: to LouisvilleFilm.org and see what they've got in the works.
• 51:04
  Speaker 13: Thank you to them and to McLeod for talking to us.
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: So, Lucy, you saw a movie, did you?
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: I did. Now I feel badly because we showed it
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: at Film Slang in Lexington, which just happened this weekend,
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: and we didn't have McLeod.
• 51:17
  Speaker 11: I feel like we're really shabby.
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: You guys are like the poor cousins to us, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: we're just like, we don't.
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: Know those people.
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: Sad.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: So anyway we'll see where your invitation to Harry Dean
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Stanton Fest is next year buddy you love having me
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: this way I thought the movie was tremendous I thought
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: it was really great I love that sort of like
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: subjective reality stuff and that's not a spoiler I mean
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: we can say that there's something ongoing and you kind
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: of don't know if the character's imagining it or if
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: it's real that's the.
• 51:50
  Speaker 13: Thing he because I even questioned like how they're trying
• 51:53
  Speaker 13: to sort of market it right because and he's sort
• 51:56
  Speaker 13: of shying away from the term horror.
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, I feel like it is, but I
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: can understand them not wanting.
• 52:02
  Speaker 13: To really push it as like, come see this horror movie.
• 52:04
  Speaker 13: Cause then a bunch of slasher fans are going to
• 52:06
  Speaker 13: go and they're going to be like, the hell is this? So,
• 52:08
  Speaker 13: I mean, I think that was my favorite part is you,
• 52:11
  Speaker 13: it starts off kind of indie drama and like you get,
• 52:14
  Speaker 13: Pretty early on, you're kind of like, something feels weird
• 52:17
  Speaker 13: about this movie.
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: And I guess you know, even by the title, it's
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: something weird.
• 52:21
  Speaker 13: But even then, it just increasingly gets more and more.
• 52:25
  Speaker 13: You just get a little deeper in every few minutes.
• 52:28
  Speaker 13: And you're just like, this is kind of something weird.
• 52:31
  Speaker 13: Something creepy is going on here. And then it is
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: midway in before you're like, oh.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Things about to get crazy. There's a lot of.
• 52:37
  Speaker 13: Crazy stuff going on here. So it's, yeah, I enjoyed it.
• 52:41
  Speaker 13: And I say seek it out.
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, tonally, I thought it was fascinating because it
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: does do that. It's sort of a slow build. But
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: then also there's this amazing, like, comedic relief that should
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: feel straight. It shouldn't work, but it works perfectly. And
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: it's such, and it's like sort of a buddy movie
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: on top of everything else. I mean, there's like those
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: films like Take Shelter. Was that the Michael Shannon one
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: that sort of addresses something similar? And it's even been
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: done like in the world of like indie romantic comedies,
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: like happy accidents where like people.
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: There's moments where that crosses in. There's times when they're together.
• 53:12
  Speaker 18: I'm like.
• 53:13
  Speaker 13: If this was a separate scene, you could almost sell it. Like,
• 53:15
  Speaker 13: if you put it on a clip, you know, on
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: your talk show, you could be like, here's our rom-com,
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: come see it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, oh, you're in for a big surprise,
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: because it does not look, I mean.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there could be a completely different edit of the trailer.
• 53:26
  Speaker 13: It's like, you could put together one of those weird
• 53:27
  Speaker 13: edit trailers and put it on YouTube, and people would
• 53:29
  Speaker 13: be like, what did I got myself into?
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: But it ultimately becomes this movie about trust. Do I
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: trust somebody who's maybe going off the deal? How much
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: do I love this person that I put myself in?
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: Isn't this every relationship?
• 53:44
  Speaker 13: Don't we all question this midway in?
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: I thought it was a darn near perfect film. I
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: thought it was fantastic.
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: Seek it out.
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, recommended.
• 53:54
  Speaker 13: One more thanks to McLeod for talking with us. And
• 53:57
  Speaker 13: plugs to his movie because it's really cool.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to do an update here. The creepy
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: movie I was talking about was called Rubberneck.
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: Rubberneck.
• 54:07
  Speaker 16: It's a pretty good movie.
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: And who does it star?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Alex Karpofsky.
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: Good going.
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: So we can all wrap this case up. It's maybe
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a little too neat.
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: I'm waiting for the twist myself.
• 54:22
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: So do we want to get to work on these
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: pumpkins and– How is this going to work? Are we
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: narrating the painting of the pumpkin?
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: I think we're just going to take a break here
• 54:34
  Speaker 9: and I'm going to paint me a pumpkin.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Fair enough.
• 54:36
  Speaker 13: And work on these fancy coffee beverages that they make
• 54:40
  Speaker 13: here at Gallery K.
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: Wonderful coffee beverages.
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: Jacqueline and I have been working on crazy recipes all week, so...
• 54:47
  Speaker 13: Maybe I'll do, what did I say mine was? Brian's
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: Salted Chocolate Pumpkins or something.
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah, something like that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 9: And what was your crazy jack-o'-lantern?
• 54:54
  Speaker 11: I can't remember.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: I can't remember what I called it. The Jack-o'-lantern. Wasn't
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: it something ridiculous?
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like the Red Hot Jack-o'-lantern or something like that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 11: I can't remember.
• 55:00
  Speaker 13: That's what inspired me to jam my name in the
• 55:02
  Speaker 13: middle of mine as well. So I was like, it
• 55:04
  Speaker 13: doesn't fit easily like yours does. So I just had
• 55:07
  Speaker 13: to tack it on there and make it like chefs.
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: We should make a jingle for Gallery K.
• 55:14
  Speaker 9: I don't know if they want to jingle, do they?
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: You might say, please don't.
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: Of course we do.
• 55:18
  Speaker 10: Of course we do. We want to be like, let's
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: all go to the drive-in.
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: Gallery K. I can't.
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: We need like a.
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: Get on it.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of things you can rhyme with, K.
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: We need like some.
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: Horns and stuff, yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: I was picturing like devil horns. I'm like, well, it
• 55:34
  Speaker 9: is Halloween, sure, but I don't know if that's going
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: to work the rest of the year.
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: Like a brass section.
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: the lobby. Let's all go to.
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: The lobby to get ourselves a treat.
• 55:51
  Speaker 12: Want some music for your ears? Doo-Wop Shop makes it
• 55:54
  Speaker 12: easy to rent for any event, business meeting, or special occasion.
• 55:57
  Speaker 12: From PA systems to karaoke machines to just about anything
• 56:00
  Speaker 12: that makes noise, you can rent it from the Doo-Wop Shop.
• 56:03
  Speaker 12: In Louisville, find them either at their Highland store at
• 56:06
  Speaker 12: 1587 Bardstown Road or in the East End at 2915
• 56:09
  Speaker 12: South Hurstburn Parkway. And look for them online at DooWopShop.com.
• 56:14
  Speaker 12: Doo-Wop Shop. We're serious about music.
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: They called him Machete.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: This is Danny Trello, a.k.a.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Machete.
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: And you're checking.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Out Movie Meltdown. You better keep checking it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Out or I'll come looking for you.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: And I got machetes.
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: I soon realized they just fucked with the wrong Mexican. Machete.
• 56:56
  Speaker 12: That's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
• 56:59
  Speaker 12: enough movies.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: on with the show.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Deep inside the pumpkin patch, sitting in a row, the
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: strangest pumpkins you have ever seen. Lots of scary jack-o'-lanterns
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: putting on a show. Trying to get picked for Halloween.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: It's another spooky night underneath the moon.
• 57:29
  Speaker 12: With eerie ghosts and goblins on the scene.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: So anyway, Lynn brings home like a white pumpkin. It's
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: around Halloween. Puts it on top of the fridge. And
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it just stays there. And after a while, I'm like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about the white pumpkin. She's like,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: I think they just turn into a gourd. I think
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: they're like that. And right about that time, I'm reaching
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: up and touching it. And when I touch it, it
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: just dissolves into this hideous ooze that comes sliding down
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the side of the fridge. And Lynn freaks out. It
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: was just like... Held together by surface tension or something.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And when I touch it, it just.
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: And she shrieks.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like this ongoing thing for us. I
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: think it's just like it turns into a gourd.
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: You just say that about most things in your house now.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything turns into a gourd. Yes, exactly. It's like
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: a troll.
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: Isn't the troll movies kind of like that?
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: It just turns into a gourd.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: They all just turn to gourds.
• 58:36
  Speaker 24: Gourds.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I realized I was older at some point because I
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: remember when I was young, like if one of my friends,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: if somebody I knew said, are you conducting a science experiment?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: It meant like there was something really gross in your
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: fridge that you haven't cleaned up. But now if one
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: of my friends says, are you conducting a science experiment?
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: They mean they found something gross in your fridge and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: they wonder, are you conducting.
• 59:07
  Speaker 11: A science experiment?
• 59:10
  Speaker 13: Are you doing a time-lapse video for a YouTube channel?
• 59:13
  Speaker 13: Because that probably happens equally as often.
• 59:16
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: Legitimate science experiments.
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: Oh, well, never mind. I didn't know they had to
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: be legitimate.
• 59:24
  Speaker 14: I watched this movie, Near Dark, just a couple days ago.
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: I had never seen it before.
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: I thought it was her first film.
• 59:33
  Speaker 10: Is it not her first?
• 59:36
  Speaker 13: It's really early for her, but I don't think it's
• 59:38
  Speaker 13: the first. It's like second or third.
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: It was good, though. I was really impressed with it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: She's such a solid director.
• 59:44
  Speaker 13: To be that early on in her career, and again,
• 59:48
  Speaker 13: to be crossing over with Are they married at that point?
• 59:52
  Speaker 9: They might have been married.
• 59:53
  Speaker 13: Either way, they're stealing each other's cast members because it's like,
• 59:55
  Speaker 13: here's the cast of aliens and we've thrown them into
• 59:58
  Speaker 13: this other story.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I need to rewatch it. It's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 9: been a long time.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 12: Since I've seen it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 14: Yeah, so it's October, so I'm trying to cram in
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 14: 31 within the month. I watched The Serpent and the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: Rainbow for the first time. I wasn't really impressed with it.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 14: I don't know if I just waited too long on it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: Again, I feel like I need to rewatch.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 13: At the time, I don't remember being overwhelmed, but I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 13: kind of need to revisit it It's an odd one
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 13: in the Craven rundown.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 16: I recently watched a surprisingly, I don't want to say excellent,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 16: but very good horror movie on, I think it was on,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 16: I found it on Hulu. It was called Hollow's Grove.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 16: And it was like, it looked stupid.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: That's what we're looking for.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 16: And then, you know, the opening scene, I was like,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 16: this is going to be crap. Because it's just like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 16: a super duper low budget horror. horror movie and it
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 16: was actually really good. I was legitimately scared. I had
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 16: to have assistance to turn on the light in the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 16: hall so I could go pee after I was done.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 16: I was like, I'm scared.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: Did you take your killer attack dogs with you?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 16: Well, they follow me into the bathroom anyway.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: There's the creepiest thing in the episode.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 16: I literally cannot go anywhere in my house without my
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 16: dogs following me everywhere. They follow me everywhere. It was
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 16: really good. It was very surprising. It was an interesting premise.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 16: It had a little bit of like Waverly lore, folklore
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 16: thrown in there.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: Like actual Waverly or just like Waverly?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 16: Well, there was.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: Waverly is a local reference if you're not from.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Waverly Flavorly. Yes.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 16: A little bit of Waverly Flavorly.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 9: Let's not patent that.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 21: Get it going.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 16: It takes place in an abandoned orphanage that was turned
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 16: into a children's hospital, I think, during tuberculosis times or
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 16: something like that. And they had the legend about nurses
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 16: who hung themselves in room 205, which is the 502
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 16: room Waverly legend.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 13: It is funny that I think most towns, or at
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 13: least within your state, everybody kind of has this story.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: There's always an.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 8: abandoned hospital or mental hospital or something.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 10: In Pueblo, it was the honor farm. Yeah, I think
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 10: every town has one.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 13: Yeah, everybody has one, and they all have the nurse
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 13: killed himself, and the patient came back, and everybody has
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 13: these weird stories.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Lexington doesn't have one.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: I wonder why.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 16: Waverly is one of the most popular throughout the United States, though.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 16: I mean, it's been covered on countless ghost hunter shows, things.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 10: Can you buy tickets and hang out in it?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I think they're doing a haunted house now.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 10: It's so famous now that you can't go in without paying.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: I met the Ghost Adventures guys.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 16: Did you?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 15: I did when they came to do Waverly for their
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 15: live episode or something.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 9: I met them at Mag Bar.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: They were trying to pick up chicks.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 10: That's the scariest part of the episode.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: We went to Deadwood and there was a ghost crew.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they're the ones that got the room
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: next to us. They were bringing in ladies.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 11: It was insane.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 14: This was for a reality series?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: We went to the Holiday Inn Express.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: So how was it?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 14: Someone should start a scary reality series about some ghost
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 14: guys that have a reality series that they just creep out.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 16: Chicks that's funny that's what that's what the movie was
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 16: about it was about guys who were ghost hunters and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 16: they were such douchebags and it was like on purpose
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 16: it was on purpose and it was really funny and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 16: like so like these people had all gone to film
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 16: school and this guy was like serious but He wasn't
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 16: finding work, and he wanted to do a documentary about
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 16: them just to, like, fill his time. And that's why
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 16: he was there. But they were all assholes, and, like,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 16: you were supposed to not like them. They were supposed
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 16: to be obnoxious ghost hunter dicks.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: It was really funny because we went to Deadwood thinking, like, oh,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: there's all these interesting, like, haunted places, and we're staying
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: in a haunted hotel, blah, blah, blah. And we saw
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: them on the street before we even saw the cameras.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: We were like, I bet those are some ghost hunter assholes.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: And sure enough, they weren't. You can tell just by
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: looking at them.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: Did they look like douchebaggins?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 16: I mean, they look like Guy Fieri or something.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: What is that? Why do they all want to do that?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 13: Yeah, why do they all look like douchebags and they
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 13: want to be obnoxious on camera?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: Except the one that we had on. She was very nice.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: But other than that, every time we run into ghost
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 8: hunters at one of these conventions... Most of them seem
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 8: kind of douchey.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 16: They're like magicians.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: Well, not that bad.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 24: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: Jacqueline likes magic. I am a magician. Are you?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 21: Yes.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 11: Well, at least I used to be.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: I used to perform.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: I did stage magic.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 11: I did too. But I agree with you. Most magicians
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 11: are assholes. Or at least misogynists. At the very least.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: They're gross.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 16: I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: I love magic.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 11: Like, I love it.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 16: You know, like, those shows, like, my friend and I, who, like,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 16: we would never.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: Like, publicly.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 16: Do magic.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: Out yourself as magic fans.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 20: Yes.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 16: But, like, there was a TV show, and it was
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 16: just all magic. And we were like, more magic, more magic. But,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 16: you know, like, most magicians are creeps.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, a little bit.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 9: You kind of have to be, right?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I have to. Maybe, I don't know, maybe professional magicians.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: But when I was a kid... I belong to a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: magician's union or organization in my little hometown that met
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: up in the empty JCPenney's building at the old mall.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: And they were just all these.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 10: That's a horror movie all by itself.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I was the only kid there. I was the only
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: kid there.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: This is a horror movie.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: John Carpenter dropped me off.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: And they were all just, they were all just sitting
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: around doing magic. And then they would have like a
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: guest magician.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: Hey little kid, I want to show you a magic trick.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: Come over here.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And they were all like really nice guys. They were
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: all like, you know, really cool and nice. And they
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: would show me just incredible stuff, like right in front
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of my face. And, uh, And they would have a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: guest magician and then they'd sit around and talk magic.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: And I got letters from them for the next 20
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: years somehow. Like they never gave up on anybody. But
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the guy I remember best, the magician they had was
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the Frito-Lay guy who's buried over in. Cave Hill Cemetery.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 13: He does have an amazing, I'd say headstone, but it's
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 13: just a giant full-sized statue.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: He used to have doves, but people kept stealing them.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Or they kept disappearing.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 10: Replacing them with bags of fritos.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: It's quite a heist.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: He was worth seeing.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: I don't know. There was just a peculiar melancholy.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: To the whole situation, all these guys sitting around. And
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: they weren't douchey and the sense of the word that
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: we use today.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: I think that came because you were still little.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: I think that came late.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 13: I think that came to like post David Copperfield era
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 13: of like.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, I really do.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: I think that, um, he got Claudia Schiffer and then
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: everybody in the world was just like, Oh, magic.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: And so like all the like creepy kids who couldn't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: get girls turned to magic and now they're professional magicians
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: and they continue to be creepy. And they're bitter.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: Very bitter.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 13: I think at that point, that early on, there were
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 13: two schools of thought and magic. You had your David
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 13: Copperfield and you had your Doug Henning. I was definitely
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 13: on that, but the weird hippie dude that I was like,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 13: I didn't like the hippie persona that he had going,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 13: but his magic was awesome. And he didn't bring a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 13: whole lot of bullshit with it. He was just like, yeah,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 13: here's what I'm doing. He was like, I'm a hippie.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 13: I don't have a whole lot of flash to it.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 13: I show up in my weird hippie clothes and I'm
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 13: just doing magic. And he didn't oversell the bullshit angle
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 13: he was just like here's what.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 14: I do he's hanging on to that traveling minstrel kind
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 14: of thing still he was just.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 13: Kind of cool and laid back about it all and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 13: like then you had.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 8: You know your copperfield era that kicked in and it was.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 14: You guys remember when david copperfield did like a a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 14: special on nbc and there was i don't know he
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 14: made the statue of liberty disappear or something and then
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 14: there's this thing where like you would touch like these
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 14: numbers on the screen and the cards would flip themselves
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 14: and like no matter what order you did it in,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 14: he always knew the right number at the end.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 9: There's one of those videos.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 13: On YouTube right now that's blowing people's minds.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: It's telling you to pick a card or something.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 14: This was before the internet, so this was still like
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 14: he got to do magic with David Copperfield from the
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 14: comfort of your living room. We recorded it and tried
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 14: it all these different ways and he always beat us
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 14: because he's the magician over here.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 16: There was one, there's a thing going around the internet
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 16: that I've seen people repost. And it's like, you pick
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 16: a card and then he'll make your card disappear. But
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 16: he's really just made all the cards disappear, which is
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 16: the trick.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 10: Sorry to burst your bubble there.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 13: Well, no, but it would always, like, whatever one you picked,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 13: if you go back and pick another one, it would
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 13: be that one again.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: So I'm trying to figure out how it knows.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: I know it's a scam.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 16: It must be a different one, because the one I've watched,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 16: it's like, I'll make your card disappear, but no matter
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 16: what card you picked, Every single card is different.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 13: This one, yeah, I assumed the first time through. But
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 13: I was like, okay, so if I back it up,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 13: it's not going to work. And that one I backed
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 13: up like five times. And every time it would match
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 13: up with whatever different one I would pick.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, man.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 13: So then I'm just like editing-wise, I'm like, how are
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 13: you making this happen? I understand it's not magic, but
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 13: I'm trying to figure out from the editing angle.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: It is magic, dude.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 8: From the tech geek end, I'm like, how do you
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: make that work?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 14: That's why they're so bitter because it really is magic
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 14: and no one believes them.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 10: Everyone thinks they're douchebags.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: The first time I ever saw David Blaine, I was
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: just checking into a hotel, and I went in, turned
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: on the TV, and set my bag down, and some
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: guy comes immediately on the screen and says, okay, I
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: want you to pick a card.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: I just set my bag.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, there.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 10: All right, why not?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: And he flips through them, and I'm like, the Red Queen, okay?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: And he goes, this is not your card. And I'm like,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: that's amazing. That's totally not my card. And then he
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: just flips it, and it was the Red Queen.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: And I'm like, What?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: And I started going to the other rooms. It's like,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: did you see the guy on the TV? What was
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: your card? But I think the thing is, like, he
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: flips them at a rate so it slows enough that
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: just visually you pick up on. It's like a forced
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: card thing.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Because I really didn't even see whether it was hearts
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: or diamonds. I just had time.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: You assigned it to. Yeah.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 9: It's all part of the mind games these damn magicians play.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 12: They're probably anthropologists.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: You can't trust those people.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I was listening to like a, I don't want to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: say who, but a guitar player. Very, very good guitar player.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: And I hadn't really listened to his stuff. But, you know,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: somebody gave me a bunch of CDs and said, oh,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: this is like all his stuff. And I started listening
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: to it. to it i just hated it for one
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: i hate him because he's that good going into it
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: but you know i can grudgingly get over that but
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: his stuff sounded like i ought to be watching a
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: fucking magician perform it's like what is this musical aesthetic
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: that it's just it was so tasteless sometimes.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: You get that with people and they're especially music.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's something about virtuosity That lends itself to a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: certain lack of taste.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 16: People with their ostentatious displays of talent?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 21: Yes, exactly.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 15: This reminds me of, like, all of, like, the most
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 15: talented metal bands that have ever been.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 11: Like, they make the worst, like, the cheesiest metal.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 15: Like, Dream Theater, made of, like, world-class, like, Oberlin Conservatory
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 15: musicians that are, like, technically.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 11: The best in the game, and then they just make.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 15: Like, such terrible music well that's i mean.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 13: There's one and this was years ago and they were
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 13: like a sax player and it's really hard to build
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 13: your career being a sax player but they kind of
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 13: broke through and they had this single and it was
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 13: really good and then i was like all right let's
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 13: hear what the album and you listen to every other
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 13: song on the album and i had a friend of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 13: mine at the time listened to it and gave me
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 13: the best wrap-up of maybe any music album ever he
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 13: was like every other song the sax kicks in and.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 8: You feel like they should be scrolling by school closings.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: And you like, as soon as I heard that, I went,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: Oh shit, you're right.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: And like now every time it's winter and they're closing schools.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: I hear that in my head and I'm like, Oh damn,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: you just nailed that.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 16: If there's a saxophone and it's not careless whisper, I'm
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 16: not interested.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 13: See, sax used to be, I was just discussing this
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 13: on the show recently.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Like, Were you discussing it with me? Because I'm obsessed
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: with this whole concept.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 9: You were not even on this episode.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 16: Saxophones? Yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 9: It was like late 50s, early 60s. The sax used
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: to be an awesome rock and roll instrument.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: But that's when it was invented. Because before that, it
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: was an orchestra instrument that just did beep, beep, beep.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: And some one guy just one day decided, I'm playing
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: this thing this way. And if you had invested in
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: saxophones the year before that.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 9: It's the same thing.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 13: He probably hooked up with a Claudia Schiffer type of
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 13: the time.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: And people went, oh, saxophone is sexy.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 9: I'm going to buy me a saxophone and.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: Learn to play and be the hot solo in this song.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Die behind the wheel.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: I think about that all the time, though, when I hear, like,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: an 80s rock song that has a saxophone. And I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: think about, like, that generation of kids that thought they
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: could be in a rock band with a saxophone and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: learned to play and got really good. And then it
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: was almost their moment, and it was ripped away from them.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 9: It was over. It was over.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: It was too late. And every time I hear, like,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: a homeless guy playing a saxophone on the street, I'm like, oh,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: my God, he thought he was going to be in
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: a rock band.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 12: I know.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: And this is what happened.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: It's Richie Cunningham. He played sax.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: Wailing away on the sousaphone.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I mean, I like a sax.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: I like a sax. I like a sax and an
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: 80s rock song.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Things happen and then they go away, you know?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then people are left to pick up the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: pieces of their lives.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: It's time for a comeback, so we're reclaiming it.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: We're taking it back.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: We're making it cool.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 10: No, we literally can't do it.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 13: If we talk about it, I don't know if we're
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 13: making it cool. I say we take it back, people.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 13: Let's start a movement.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Well, what supplanted the sax in keyboards?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 13: Nothing.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was nothing. The keyboard was the sax's contemporary.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 13: Well, again, it was the grungera. It was right around
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 13: that early 90s when you don't hear it anymore. Even
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 13: through the late 80s, it's pretty solid in a lot
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 13: of cheesy pop songs.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 9: And then it went away.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that there were good bands. Like
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: Duran Duran, there'd be a sax, and you'd be like,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: this sounds awesome. And that poor kid.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: David Bowie.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: We can't imagine 80 sacks without thinking about Lost Boys.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: To bring it to our Halloween tie-in. I can't think of.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: Rock and roll sacks without that weird oiled up shirtless
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 8: guy just rocking out in the middle of Lost Boys.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 9: He does.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: I think he's still doing it.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: Not yet. He does make appearances now.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 13: He's still kind of well known for being the weird, oily,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 13: shirtless rock and roll sax guy.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: What if you could play the sax and do magic tricks.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 11: I think that's redundant.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 16: You'd have more ladies than you could fend off. I mean,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 16: what's the point?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Ladies, ladies.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: There's only so much of me to go around. I mean,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: come on.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Or maybe it would be like a double negative making
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: a positive and it really would be the most mind-blowingly
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: sexy thing ever.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: And yet, no one would care.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 13: It would cancel itself out, and you'd just be sitting
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 13: in your basement playing your saxophone, doing magic tricks.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: And no one would think you're cool.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 16: Have you ever, like, I mean, I don't know if
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 16: anybody here has ever experienced this, but you, like, meet
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 16: a new person, and you're dating, and you're, like, explaining
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 16: to your friends, like, he's a doctor, and he plays guitar. Like,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 16: can you just imagine someone being like, he's a magician
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 16: and a saxophone player.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 9: At this point, your friend pulls you aside and has you.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 13: Whoa, whoa, we didn't want to say anything with the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 13: doctor and the guitar, but now we've got to step in.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I guess it was lucky Bill Clinton had that plan
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: B of politics.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 16: Maybe Bill Clinton made saxophone uncool.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 13: If you think about it, that was the tail end.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 13: Maybe he was the nail in the coffin. It's like, oh,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 13: it's in politics now? Oh, this is not cool. Arsenio,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 13: you used to be cool, and now you've killed the saxophone.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 13: And it killed his career. There's just no telling who
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 13: all will be taken out by this horrible saxophone.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: Sad, it really is.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: We should finish up these pumpkins.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 13: Carl's already, like, elbow deep in a pumpkin right now,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 13: scraping the innards out.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to mic the paint.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: Let's have a moment before we can hear the paint
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 9: go on.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 8: Jacqueline's painting her dog onto a pumpkin. I'm going to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: do the, like, golf play-by-play here. And she approaches the pumpkin.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: And needs a little more red.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 16: I have careless whispers stuck in my head.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: Uh-oh, uh-oh.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 7: Bam, bam.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 13: Oh, and she missed it. She didn't even hit the pumpkin.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 13: It's on her coffee mug.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 9: Oh, what a shame. Check back in later.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: So what is the status of our pumpkins?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 13: I got tired of painting, so I'm just leaving it
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 13: like that right now. I'm thinking I might want to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 13: do more later, but I was distracted with my frothy
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 13: coffee beverage.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 8: Would you like to plug that fancy?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 9: I tweaked my original.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: Chocolate caramel salted.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 13: Pumpkin thing that I made up.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: But you changed it already.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 9: So this week, Brian's drink.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 13: This one, I adjusted, and now I was like, girl,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 13: can you make me a pumpkin pie toasted marshmallow?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 10: Toasted marshmallow latte. Come on down for a Brian. This
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: week's Brian Latte is toasted marshmallow pumpkin latte.
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  Speaker 13: I'll make up another weird flavor next week, so just
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 13: keep coming down, and I'll have my pick every week
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 13: of weird random flavors that I've thrown together.
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  Speaker 14: Listen, if you come in and order that, we'll write
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 14: your name down, and then Brian will say your name
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 14: on a future podcast.
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  Speaker 9: If you donate $ 50.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 8: I think that's.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: A pretty good deal. I'll go along with that. PayPal
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: it right on over.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: You still got it? to pay for the drink, though.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 9: I'm not buying a drink.
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  Speaker 13: Have we made headway on our Halloween festivities? Do you
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 13: feel it's been a massive Halloween party?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I feel pretty festive.
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  Speaker 1: I like everybody's costumes, too.
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  Speaker 9: It took me a long time to make this.
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  Speaker 5: Fred and I came dressed as each other.
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  Speaker 14: I almost never dress up, but, you know, I figured,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 14: what the heck, this year.
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  Speaker 9: This was the event.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 14: I want everybody to see it, you know what I mean?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like I look better as Lucy than I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: do as me.
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  Speaker 9: I didn't want to say anything, but, you know.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: I might just stick with it.
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  Speaker 10: Did you spend money on that? How long did that
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: take you to do?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 9: Well, it's a prefab.
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  Speaker 13: It's a plastic smock, and it just, you know, it
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 13: says Lucy across it, and then it's her face.
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  Speaker 8: They sell it at most retail outlets. Have you not
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: seen the Lucy outfit?
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  Speaker 9: She's internationally known.
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  Speaker 14: I couldn't tell that was over the counter.
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  Speaker 10: It looks legitimate.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I dressed it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 9: You added the walking stick.
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  Speaker 14: I hit the thrift store and added a few things
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 14: here and there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get the basic outfit, and you can
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: still do some makeup.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 9: It's all in the voice, really.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 13: The cowboy hat and the walking stick I thought was
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 13: a good combo that you added into her usual look.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you don't normally see that.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. Fantastic, really.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: Different thing.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 10: I didn't think you could pull it off, but it
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: looks great.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Well, and, you know, Lucy is rocking the sexy Fred costume.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 13: I like that she added the saxophone, though, because we
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 13: didn't see that coming.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 9: And then we got midway in, and I was like, oh,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: it all comes together.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 10: She was giving us all the foreshadowing, and, yeah.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 13: She could have gone simple and just made herself, like,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 13: wearing the big, you know, magician top hat, but she
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 13: opted to go a little lesser known for your saxophone tie-in, so.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 9: Just saying. She was ahead of the game.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: I didn't tell you this at the beginning of the
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: show because I didn't want... Well, never mind.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: What have you done, Lucy?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 21: Spill it.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: I have an emotional problem with pumpkin carving. And so
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: that's why I didn't participate because I'm not, like, emotionally
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: capable of it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 9: That's why we're painting.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: It's not even that. No, it's not the painting versus
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: the carving. You're frightened of them? Like, no, I have
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: a problem, like, anthropomorphizing inanimate objects.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: And so.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Do you need to be laying on this couch as
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: we go into this? I get overly invested in my pumpkin.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: And then when the pumpkin is gone, it's like a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: piece of my soul is ripped out.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 9: You really need to lay down and tell us this story.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 9: I feel like we're knee deep in this therapy session.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: That's why the Native Americans didn't carve pumpkins.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 14: They're a part of their soul every time a jack-o'-lantern
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 14: is carved.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: I think we're more of the society that smashes pumpkins.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 14: I'm actually making that up completely, and any Native Americans listening,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 14: I apologize if I offended you with that.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 13: We do not endorse his thoughts or weird things.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: You would have hated this game I played.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 9: With my kids when they were little.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: We would go down to the river, and we would
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: pick out little rocks, and we would decide which ones
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: were like family members. It was like stone poetry, and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: it is surprisingly... profound. It's just really crazy because a
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: kid will pick out a rock and say, that's my
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: aunt Janie.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 13: It's really disturbing at the end when you skip your
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 13: whole family into the river.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 9: Poor Lucy's face. Look at it right now. She's hurting.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: We just pick them out and then we don't keep
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: them or anything.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: And then just leave them.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 9: Abandon your family.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 24: It's picking the ones, you know, and they're just like,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 24: they're not like, you know, they're not jewels or anything,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 24: but they're just rocks that have little bits of personality
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 24: and it's just really like, I don't know, it's compelling.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how we started doing it, but it
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: was like This.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: Does seem like something that would go on in your family, though.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I posted something about it once, and an
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: old friend of mine who knew me from way back
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: in the day said, oh, that just reminds me of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: you and Lynn so much. And I'm like, because it's
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: fucking weird?
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: That's so interesting.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: It does seem like something you two weirdos would do. No,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: I would bring them all home, and I would have
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: a whole room that was just my rock family. Like,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: I am a hoarder.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 9: I'm glad I'm not alone now.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: One Halloween, this is a Halloween story, Jim sorted all
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: his candy into candy families. And then he didn't eat
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: any of it. He still had it all like a
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: little museum the next year.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: That's amazing. Yeah, I've never been able to eat animal crackers. Like, yeah.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: They're really pretty good.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: No, I can't.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 13: You really do need to lay down and let's just
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 13: get into this because I brought a notebook and.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: I feel like we could really make some breakthroughs.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 8: I think we can work through some of these issues.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: I can eat Sour Patch Kids because kids are assholes.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 11: They're little assholes.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, clearly.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: What about peeps? How do you feel about peeps?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: They're not vegetarian, so it's not an option anyway. And
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: nobody stepped up and made, like, a vegan peep.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Well, vegan marshmallows are around.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. They are. It seems like that
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: would be the next obvious evolutionary step.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: You can roast over a fire as well.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: I've actually never tried it.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Technology is, oh, you should.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: We should do that. Okay.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 9: At our fireplace episode.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's Jim and his girlfriend.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 12: They got the vegan.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Marshmallows and do that.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: The Dandy's? The Dandy's brand?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: I'm throwing that out there as a potential sponsor.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 9: That didn't work out last time you did that.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: Actually, the company went under.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 9: I hope you're happy.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: Well, maybe that was their fault.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: I've said that for a while. When we drove into
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: their parking lot.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 9: To go get them and give them money.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: To support them, which gets you in trouble.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 13: Yeah, instead they were closed. And I'm like, well, you
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 13: see what happens when you don't sponsor Movie Meltdown?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 9: Your business goes under.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: Pizza, pizza, pizza.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 13: The wonderful pizza place that went under because they did
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 13: not support Movie Meltdown.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 8: Take that.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 10: It sounds to me like they didn't even care already
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 10: about the name of the place. That was a great thing.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Let's just call it Pizza Pizza.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 9: Whatever, I'm claiming that.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: It's that kind of attitude that gets you closed down
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 10: after a while.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: So is there anything else we need to round out
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: on this episode?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 9: Nope.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: Happy Halloween.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 16: Happy Halloween.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 9: I like this laid back meltdown look. We've done several now.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 9: A lot of times we work in viewings of movies
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 9: and music.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: And all this other stuff.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 9: But this year we were kind.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: Of keeping it casual. Just hang out.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 9: We do something a little different.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 8: This year we just kind of scale it back a little.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 9: Hang out.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 8: Mess with some pumpkins.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: Focused on doing a Disturb Lucy a little bit.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 13: And then we wrap things up. So thank you for
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 13: joining us. And thank you to McCloud for joining us
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 13: on this as well.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: I don't think he even knew he was going to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 8: be part of the Meltdown Macabre this year.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: And thank you, Brian, because I've always felt there should
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: be more pumpkin painting podcasts.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 9: I think there should be. But once again, we're on
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 9: the cutting edge of podcasting.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 13: We're doing things that other podcasts can't even conceive of.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 8: We're that far ahead of the game here.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 9: Otherwise, that about does it.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: Thank you for joining us on this spooky adventure. We
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 8: will return next week. Same geek feed.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 9: Thanks for listening.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 20: Roller walker!
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 7: Roller walker!
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 20: Roller walker! Rock and roll!
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Roll!
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: Rockin' old pumpkins Rockin' old pumpkins.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: Rockin' old pumpkins Rockin' old pumpkins Rock and roll.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 20: Rock and roll Rock and roll Rock and roll Rock
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 20: and roll Rock and roll Rock and roll pumpkin.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: Who says that we're given to tangents? I feel like
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: that was really linear.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 12: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 12: edited by the Audity Studios, with opening music performed by
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 12: the Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 12: the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: Talk hard!