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Thank you Pop; NBA Predictions for 2nd Round Matchups! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: one oh seven of the so called sports channalyist Josh.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm doing?
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  Speaker 3: Good man? Basketball? The basketball playoffs is pretty intense right now,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But as a Spurs fan, gotta gotta clap
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  Speaker 3: it up for pop you know, and you gotta clap
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  Speaker 3: it up. Clap it up, clap it up, it up.
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  Speaker 3: It was a good run. It was a good run.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty nine years of being a head coach in the NBA,
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  Speaker 3: something you'll probably never see again, especially how the NBA
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  Speaker 3: is now yep. So we'll get into that a little
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  Speaker 3: bit here in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: likes sports. But, like Josh was saying, let's go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and get into it. So twenty nine years of Greg Popovich.
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  Speaker 1: He officially retires after having to leave midseason because just
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  Speaker 1: his health. It wasn't wasn't the same and then correct
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Josh. And then I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think like a month or two ago he.
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  Speaker 3: Had like I'm gonna go to the hat another stroke. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like at her while eating out with his family.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, so, yeah, that was another serious thing.
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  Speaker 1: But now it looks like I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: officially or not, but Mitch Johnson, he's pretty much in
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  Speaker 1: the running.
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  Speaker 2: Right it's official.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. They already had their press conference today, that introductory
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  Speaker 3: press conference today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
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  Speaker 1: So, Josh, how are you feeling about it? I know
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  Speaker 1: it's a little somber mood right now.
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  Speaker 2: Because pop your guy, he's he's coach. How you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: Well? In my lifetime, I've never known any other coach
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  Speaker 3: than Greg Popovich for the San Antonio Spurs, And honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of bittersweet, you know, he's he knew it
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  Speaker 3: was coming pretty soon. I thought it would probably have
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  Speaker 3: been like two years ago when he would have left,
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  Speaker 3: but I think he wanted to stick it out a
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  Speaker 3: little bit longer for the development of Wimby. But honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's not even the focus right now. Is
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  Speaker 3: how it ended. I think we should just look at
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  Speaker 3: the majority of his career. I know, and I will
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  Speaker 3: say this, we are a biased sports podcast, and it
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  Speaker 3: all of team sports. I don't care what sport. I
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  Speaker 3: think Greg Povitch is the greatest coach of all time.
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  Speaker 3: And I wholeheartedly believe that eighteen eighteen, nineteen years straight,
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  Speaker 3: a fifty plus wins, five NBA championships, all in three
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  Speaker 3: different decades. Like model of consistency development, first to kind
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  Speaker 3: of bring in international players onto the scene, really built
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  Speaker 3: around a good solid squad, really cared for his players,
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  Speaker 3: and you could tell that the players loved playing for
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  Speaker 3: Greg Polovich. I mean they stayed forever. Tim Duncan, Monu,
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  Speaker 3: Tony Parker, David Robinson even stuck around for a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Then you even look at some of the guys deeper
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  Speaker 3: on the bench. You know, the Jonte reached out so
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  Speaker 3: that all the great things that Paulovich did for him.
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  Speaker 3: You see guys like Boris d'Al Patty Mills, Thiago Splitter,
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  Speaker 3: A lot of these guys, especially Danny Green talking about him,
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  Speaker 3: Richard Jefferson, Stephen Jackson, they all they some they may
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  Speaker 3: have their differences with the San Antonio Spurs. But there
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  Speaker 3: is one consistency is that Greg Polvich was was more
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  Speaker 3: than just a coach for them. He was a father figure.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that I think, and how I said earlier,
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  Speaker 3: a model of consistency a coach for twenty nine years.
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  Speaker 3: We don't even see coaches win a championship and stay
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  Speaker 3: for two years after that anymore. So it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: we will probably never see a coach with that tenior
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  Speaker 3: ever again in the NBA. And I just think that's
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  Speaker 3: something pretty cool that Greg Povits was one of the
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  Speaker 3: last like him and probably like Rick Carlisle and Doc
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  Speaker 3: not even Doc Rivers anymore. We're kind of the last
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  Speaker 3: to kind of where their team stuck it out with
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  Speaker 3: them for quite a long time. And honestly, most wins
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  Speaker 3: in NBA history, eighteen straight of fifty plus wins, five championships,
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  Speaker 3: NBA Hall of Famer. I mean, it was just a
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  Speaker 3: great career for Greg Popovich.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, like you're saying he's and the way he
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  Speaker 2: came in too.
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  Speaker 3: He fired that food Larry Brown and it was like
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  Speaker 3: I'm a higher mind, so I'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: Greatest decisions he ever made, the greatest decision he ever
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  Speaker 1: made it, I'm gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: He said I could do it better, and that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what he did.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're saying the most respected and love coaches, and
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  Speaker 1: if you say Phil Jackson's better or pat Riley, of
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  Speaker 1: those guys, bare minimum, he is a top three coach
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  Speaker 1: of all time. I don't care what you say any era.
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  Speaker 1: I know the likes of Steve Kerr. He's up there.
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  Speaker 1: But just like you're saying, a thirty year window is crazy,
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  Speaker 1: where you consistently win. I know these last two years
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  Speaker 1: they've been a little bit rougher, but also it was
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  Speaker 1: a rebuilding. They're turning the page now. And I think
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  Speaker 1: another thing, like you're saying, a model of consistency, but
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  Speaker 1: also the evolution of basketball. He played from the or
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  Speaker 1: from the nineties to the mid two thousands to the
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  Speaker 1: twenty tens to now the twenty twenties. He's evolutionized his
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  Speaker 1: team to where they still keep the same model and
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  Speaker 1: they're still just as good of a team, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think they could even had
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  Speaker 1: more runs. Obviously there's that there's an infamous run where
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  Speaker 1: we even talked about last time. The twenty seventeen with
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  Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs. If Kawhi didn't get hurt, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Papovich he has six championship or there's there's just plenty
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  Speaker 1: of moments where Greg Povich and the Spurs they could
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  Speaker 1: have eight nine championships, and this is I think this
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  Speaker 1: is like worst case scenario right here, and like it
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  Speaker 1: just goes underrated what they actually did.
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  Speaker 3: I think got to look at some points where they
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  Speaker 3: lost by one in the playoffs, where it was like
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  Speaker 3: game sevens and all that, so.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and I think that I just think that
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  Speaker 1: they're one of the most under Like everybody respects the Spurs,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but like they're one of the
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  Speaker 1: most underrated dynasties. They're not as flashy as the Warriors,
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  Speaker 1: as the Bulls or even the Patriots achieves, like comparing
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  Speaker 1: all different dynastic runs across sports sports teams, the Spurs
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  Speaker 1: they're one of the most underrated ones. But they're the
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  Speaker 1: ones that kept up the longest from you could say,
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  Speaker 1: from from nineteen ninety nine all the way till you
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  Speaker 1: could say twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. That's when you that's
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  Speaker 1: how long is that? That's about like fifteen sixteen years.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's even more dominant than what the Patriots did too, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: and then Tim Duncan for him, he doesn't get respected
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  Speaker 1: as much as he probably should. But I think that's
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  Speaker 1: just the Spurs culture right there. But Greg Pavovich, he's
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  Speaker 1: a goat. He's a goat. And now, like he said, now,
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  Speaker 1: I remember the press conference, he said, he's LFN now
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  Speaker 1: the chief, He's.
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  Speaker 2: Mister boss man now.
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  Speaker 1: But so I want to ask you this, Josh, since
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  Speaker 1: you're a Spurs fan, So how how are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: about Mitch Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's the right step?
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  Speaker 3: I think, honestly, I think me and you talked about
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  Speaker 3: I said that he would be number one for me
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  Speaker 3: out of all coaches to be our next head coach. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: I would have loved Mike Malone. I considered the possibility
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  Speaker 3: of Taylor Jenkins and Becky Hammond maybe coming through a
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  Speaker 3: lot of a lot of a lot of Spurs fans
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  Speaker 3: were really hoping for Mike Malone. But honestly, this is
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  Speaker 3: the best move to Spurs could have made. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's been in house since through this entire rebuild. All
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  Speaker 3: the players love him, like in all the press conferences
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  Speaker 3: they hope that Miss Johnson were to come back. They
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  Speaker 3: were saying that he's a great coach, that he really
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  Speaker 3: knows how to connect with them, and he does have
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  Speaker 3: a connection. He's been there since the start of most
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  Speaker 3: all these players' careers. That's currently on the Spurs rosters
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  Speaker 3: except for Harrison Barnes, you know, and I think you
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  Speaker 3: need that. I think you need that connection. That's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the Spurs way, the building of connection, the building
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  Speaker 3: of like a family type organization within the Spurs system.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, a lot of people are hitting on Mitch Johnson,
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  Speaker 3: but let's look at what he did last year, seventy
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  Speaker 3: seven games as the interim head coach, improved the team
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  Speaker 3: by thirteen wins from the year before. And this is
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  Speaker 3: even with Victor win Binyama missing half the season due
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  Speaker 3: to blood clocks and Daron Fox having his thumb surgically
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  Speaker 3: repaired and missing the rest of the season, while having
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  Speaker 3: a rookie really lead your team and Stephan Castle for
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  Speaker 3: a majority of the second half of the season. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited. I think there's a lot more to come,
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  Speaker 3: especially with some of the teams that some of the
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  Speaker 3: teams with Wimby that we had on the floor. We
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  Speaker 3: had the highest defensive unit in the entire NBA when Wimby,
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  Speaker 3: Chris Paul, Devin Vassel, Jeremy Sohan. No, no, when it
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  Speaker 3: was Chris Paul, Stefan Castle, Devin Vassell, Harrison Barnes, and
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  Speaker 3: Victor win be Oh, Jeremy Sohan and Victor wm Binyama
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  Speaker 3: were the highest defensive roster in the entire NBA. So
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  Speaker 3: he know, he it was a lot of experimental with him.
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  Speaker 3: You can tell in certain moments he was still trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out who should I put in, who should
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  Speaker 3: I do this? And that's gonna come with a young
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  Speaker 3: coach developing a young team. But I'm excited for the future.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is the right move. I think we're
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  Speaker 3: only going to get better. He can only grow with
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  Speaker 3: this team. And honestly, I'm I'm I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: we could have gone any other way besides Miss Johnson,
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  Speaker 3: and I.
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  Speaker 1: Think it's just like the way basketball is going now
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  Speaker 1: because Mitch Johnson, he's thirty eight years old. Now, you see,
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  Speaker 1: these players are younger, the coaches are younger. Now, look
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  Speaker 1: at the top coaches you have Joe Mizula, you have
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  Speaker 1: Mark Dagnall, you have j Reddick. It's the basketball game
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  Speaker 1: is getting younger, and obviously Mitch Johnson, like you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna have ups and downs, and even when he
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  Speaker 1: gets to the playoffs, they're gonna make the playoffs eventually,
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  Speaker 1: bearing any crazy health situations just to to winby and
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  Speaker 1: how talented that that team is and they're up and coming.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think it's just a perfect transition and
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  Speaker 1: m yeah, just hopefully he does well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not alone, Like you gotta think everyone's
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  Speaker 3: in the building. You know, you got you got, you
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  Speaker 3: got all the help. Greg Greg Polovic is still there.
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  Speaker 3: He's the team president. RC Buford is still there, while
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  Speaker 3: Brian Wright is their GM who's done a magnificent job
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  Speaker 3: up to this point. I feel like. And then we
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  Speaker 3: also have mand Noble's head a player development. Tim Duncan's
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  Speaker 3: always around the system. He has Brett Brown on the bench,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure they're gonna bring in someone else
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  Speaker 3: like a James b I think James Brego is still
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  Speaker 3: there as well. Yeah, I think he still has he
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  Speaker 3: still has people around him that have been there, done
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  Speaker 3: head coaching, been at the top of the levels of basketball,
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  Speaker 3: the highest levels of basketball, and honestly, it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a perfect transition. And he has the perfect star to
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  Speaker 3: lead his new coaching his new coaching regime, and that's
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  Speaker 3: Victor Wibinyama. So it's the perfect it's the perfect transition
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  Speaker 3: for any new young coach.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a young coach, there's no better
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  Speaker 1: way to start off with one of the best prospects. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: so he can't go much cauch much wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, let's go to move on to this
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  Speaker 1: next thing right here. So we're gonna talk about this
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  Speaker 1: series in a second, but we want to kind of
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  Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit differently right here. So
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  Speaker 1: obviously the Pacers they beat the Bucks, but there's rumors
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  Speaker 1: about Giannis Aneta Kompo as far as there may be
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  Speaker 1: potential landing spots he may be disc going on. And
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  Speaker 1: he's always said from the very forefront that he always
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  Speaker 1: needs a team around him to compete and win championships.
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  Speaker 1: He's always in that mind state of trying to win championships,
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  Speaker 1: because he even said that before they won the championship.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they got Drew Holliday, then even a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years after that's why they got Damian Lillard. So
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  Speaker 1: he's always keeping the front office on their toes. So
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  Speaker 1: now there's kind of a standpoint. There's no draft picks,
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  Speaker 1: there's no salary cap. There's no salary cap on this
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  Speaker 1: team unless they go over the ape. The second apron,
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  Speaker 1: Damon Lillard signed up for a while, and the only
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  Speaker 1: real movable asset is Giannis. So what makes sense for
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  Speaker 1: the Bucks? So now I want to ask you this,
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  Speaker 1: do you think Gianni is gonna stay? And if not,
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  Speaker 1: where do you Where do you think is his best
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  Speaker 1: landing spot in your opinion?
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  Speaker 3: I I can't really say if I think Giannic is
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  Speaker 3: going to stay or not, but I can give you
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  Speaker 3: the best landing spot, and that's the San Antonio Spurs.
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  Speaker 3: I'm being completely honest. I think we have the I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you three us Y Oklahoma City Thunder and
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  Speaker 3: the Houston Rockets. I think these are going to be
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  Speaker 3: all three of the teams that are in the front
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  Speaker 3: running for Jannis Antito Kombu and for the Sanston Spurs.
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  Speaker 3: I can at least say we can give up Keldon
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  Speaker 3: Johnson We can give up Devin Fassel, we can give
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  Speaker 3: up Jamie Sohan, who I do love. But when you
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  Speaker 3: when you try getting going for the second best player
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  Speaker 3: in the world, you've got to give up assets. And
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  Speaker 3: I understand Spurs fans are not gonna like this, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna hate this wonder but if Stefan Castle
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  Speaker 3: has to be included in this deal, you have to
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  Speaker 3: get rid of.
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  Speaker 2: Them, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: But but I will say the price is different if
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  Speaker 3: you give a Stefan Castle, like if you give a
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  Speaker 3: Stephan Castle, you are giving up You're you're keeping either
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  Speaker 3: Kelden or Devin Vassel or Jemi Shin or all three
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  Speaker 3: ever being completely honest. But because Stefan Castle's weight right now,
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  Speaker 3: I think in trade value holds a lot being the
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  Speaker 3: rookie of the year, seeing what he was doing towards
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  Speaker 3: the end of the season, averaging twenty twenty two, eight
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  Speaker 3: and six to end the season while being a good
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  Speaker 3: defensive player. He has superstar potential written all over him.
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  Speaker 3: So that's there's that. I mean, I think it's even
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  Speaker 3: more than what Shaye was sowing. It is after his
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  Speaker 3: rookie and first and second year is what Stefan Castle
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  Speaker 3: offers kind of in that same vice versas with Paul
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  Speaker 3: George and shit. So I think Stephan Castle's there and
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  Speaker 3: you give up draft capital along with him, so that
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  Speaker 3: that's a different way of trade value, and I'm okay
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  Speaker 3: with both sides. We keep step On or we give
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  Speaker 3: up the three top three of our role players that
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  Speaker 3: we built around consistently give one or two of them?
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  Speaker 2: Which one?
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  Speaker 1: Which one do you think is gonna be better for
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  Speaker 1: the team, Because I agree with you, Stefan Castle, it
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  Speaker 1: would just be a bunch of draft picks and like
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  Speaker 1: a filler filler player in So which one would.
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  Speaker 2: You rather keep the star player and have the role
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  Speaker 2: players or trade away all the role players and you
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  Speaker 2: just have this dynamic big four. So which one?
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  Speaker 3: That's such a hard question like that is such a
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  Speaker 3: hard question, I think I would almost for me personally,
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  Speaker 3: I would rather give up Jeremy Sohan and Keldon Johnson
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  Speaker 3: along with Devin Vassel because I think by next year
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  Speaker 3: Stefan Castle is going to surpass Devin Vassel by a landslide,
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  Speaker 3: especially being a too one of the best two way
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  Speaker 3: players in the NBA, while with that potential being one
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  Speaker 3: of the best two way players in the entire NBA
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  Speaker 3: while developing. He's a willing shooter, so the show is
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  Speaker 3: only eventually gonna be developed. And then if you look
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  Speaker 3: at the other two players, Kelton and Jeremy Sohan, what
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  Speaker 3: can't Yannis do by himself that them two can't combined
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  Speaker 3: can't do can do. He's still more, It's still more
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  Speaker 3: than what Yannis can do. And personally, I would rather
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  Speaker 3: give up the three Devin Vessel, Jeremy so and Keldon
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  Speaker 3: Johnson just for Giannis and to Takumpo, And I think
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  Speaker 3: that would immediately put us at the top of defensive
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  Speaker 3: of the of the top top defensive teams in the
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  Speaker 3: entire NBA, where Wimby can kind of stay in that
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  Speaker 3: center position when it comes to defensively and where he
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  Speaker 3: can just roam around the paint while Jannis can freelance
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  Speaker 3: and pick up pick apart the other teams either stretch
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  Speaker 3: for or best perimeter player, and Stefan Castle can also
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  Speaker 3: do the same with another player. And Dearan Fox, who's
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  Speaker 3: not the best defender but also a sneaky he creates
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  Speaker 3: a lot of turnovers. Yeah, he's but he's not a
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  Speaker 3: great defender. But he's able his speed and his his
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  Speaker 3: his ability to be able to pluck the basketball away
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  Speaker 3: from other people. Our our starting defense is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: quite quite a team to look at. And I think, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: for you, honest, it would immediately put him, put us
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  Speaker 3: and him into another another conversation for a championship.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just imagining right now.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine a pick and roll with with Giannis and Wimby.
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  Speaker 2: You know how crazy that would be? A pick and
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  Speaker 2: roll or pick and pop that would be you. You
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  Speaker 2: cannot guard that.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be a primary ball handler on the spaces,
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  Speaker 3: Like there's already two primary ball handlers with the Aaron
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Fox's Stephan Castle. All he would have to do is
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: just be honest down low and that even give Wimby
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to get out of the paint. If we're
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: being completely honest, so would be able to stretch the
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: floor like an insane level like so it would be
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: it would be pretty nasty to watch them, and we
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: would still have some pieces on the bench that we
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: can still have. And then we'll also a probably bringing
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: a couple of shooters. I'm sure, oh yeah, oh.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, no, I just think that. Man.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: The only downside I think of that is speeding up.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: That's timeline of dearon Fox. He's ready to win. But
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: as far as we see that with some rosters, as
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: far as maybe not to this level of the Spurs,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: but you see some rosters be sped up when they
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: try to trade for the superstar player and next thing
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't work as well as they thought
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: it would.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I think I think Wimby.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: If there's anybody that you could speed up, it could
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: be Winby because his game translates to the postseason.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: But it's just all the others. Are they ready to
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: be at that championship level? Because I know.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Giannis as soon wherever Giannis goes, they're gonna be competing
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: for a championship just because, like we agree.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Rockets would be scary, they would be scary.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got a question for you. I got a
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: question for you.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: So since you mentioned the Thunder and Rockets, so okay, well, okay,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I think what are the trade packages you think they
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: give up for the Thunder and the Rockets.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I think all three teams, there's gonna be another
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: team involved, Like there's gonna be like some other team
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: that comes involved that gives lowry marketing. Zion Williamson. Yeah,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: a couple other players that are like they they're star
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: on their their stars on their teams, but they kind
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: of need to get off a contracts like the Trailblazers
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: kind of getting involved in a little bit because they
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: want to get off the DeAndre ad In contract or
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the or the Jeremy Grant contract. So I can see
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: a couple of other teams getting involved. But while I
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: look at the Oklahoma City Thunder and Houston Rockets, I
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: think for the Houston Rockets, definitely, Jalen Green's gone. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: think there's no, yeah, for sure, Jalen Green, Jabari Smith
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: are gone. I I I almost one hundred percent believe that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I think they're keeping Aman Thompson no matter what. But
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I think as far as like Dylan Brooks, Jabari Smith,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Jalen Green, like they're all gone, and draft Capital even
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Reach Shepperd, I feel like Reed Shepard might be reach move,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: yeah for sure. And then as we look at the
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma City Thunder, Jadub's gone. I think wholeheartedly j Dubb
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: is gone. You may see Isaiah Joe possibly leave with
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: this because lou Dort did kind of develop more of
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: a shot this year, and he's one of the better
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: prim defenders in the NBA, So I see them kind
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: of prioritizing him over keeping Isaiah Joe and maybe someone
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: else on the bench. So I could see those moving.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: And they have a lot of draft capital that the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Thunder at this point don't need. They're at some point
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: they're going to pay a lot of these players, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I think they would probably give up some extra draft
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: capital to bring in you honest.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have a question for you. So I think
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: this would be a little bit more like even for even.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I think the Oklahoma City Thunder would give up draft
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit more draft capital. But if you're the Thunder,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: would you give up Chet and like two or three
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: first round picks.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: For You're honest? That would be even. That would be even.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: You're getting a star in Chet, But like, do the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Thunder really want a trade away Chet?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Which I know you're not.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Well, it's more because Wimby, but Chet, he's one of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the best young stars.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: No.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I like Chat, I like Say, I like Chet, I
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: like Senggoon. They're just on my least favorite teams and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: they're also in rival with Wimby, so I'm not that's
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: why I hate on them a lot. But like when
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: it comes to like pure ball standpoint, Chet home Grin,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: He's he has a lot of potential, and I honestly,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: do you think the thunder give him up? Do you? Okay,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: do you think there's that risk of injury that he's
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: already had and then he really hasn't lived up to
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the number two overall picks standpoint up to this up.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I mean really honestly, like two three years in missed
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: the whole season, missed most of this season, and then
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: last year was his only real Oh he kind of
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: he missed out last year also when he got hurt
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: because he fell out of the Rookie of the Year conversation. Yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: we're being honest, So yeah, maybe that might be a
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: move as well. Maybe the there's also chet or Giannis
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: who's gonna be more dominant for your team. I think
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be honest every single time. But also Chat
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: also offers the stretch that Jannis doesn't, So I think
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: do you think that doesn't matter in this standpoint?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think at this point, like if you have as
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: long as Shia and Giannis are together it It really doesn't.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think it goes down to the same thing, like
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: with the Spurs, do you want to fleet your roster?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: What's the thunder?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: They have the deepest roster in the league by far
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: compared to anybody, compared to Boston or any of those,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: or you could just go pretty much one for one
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Chet and Giannis.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So man, I I don't know that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: But I think this Spurs putting these players on these
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: type of contracts was always the plan at some point.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: But I just I do think they're realizing how fast
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Wimby is developing. It's Stefan Castle's development kind of makes
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: it more intriguing, Like okay, like we gotta get going.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So y'all have two lottery picks this year, right too?
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: So I think that that's gonna be the thing. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a weight tours to see if
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: we can get into the top five or top four,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: maybe number one. I don't see if we go number one.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we I think that might just
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: be a swap question. I think that's just might be
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: a swap question. So would you would give up Cooper
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Flag in a heartbeat for Giannis as a kombo.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's what I was wondering, That's what I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: was This is supper Flag would be ready. You know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: he's one of the most pro ready prospect.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: No, he is, but he's not. He's wholeheartedly he will
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: never be honest and yeah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I don't Okay, he may turn out to be great, don't.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry for saying that, but look at look at this.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Some people on the calves thought it was crazy that
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: they give up Andrew Wiggins. But did Andrew Wiggins ever
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: turn into the next Kobe Bryant. I'm just saying, like, so,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: it's a risk factor when you draft a rookie, at
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: least with Jannis right now, you know you're getting arguably,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: bar none top five player in the world, but arguably
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the second best player in the entire world. And that's
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to get through to Spurs fans. The
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: ones I hate the Mitch Johnson move, You're crazy, he
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: didn't watch the games. But like the ones that are
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: hating on the move because they say, oh, you're we're
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: giving up too much. We're giving up too much for
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the second best player in the world, Like, like, what
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: do you mean he's better than Yon? He's better than
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Wimby right now? Like I'm being honest with Like he's
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: he's better. He wouldn't be the number one on our team.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, it's whoever goes there. I don't
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: care who you are, Victor win Binyama is the number one.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: But you would be You would be insane not to
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: give up three guys and a draft picks and not
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: get you honest, I'm just being even Stefan Castle. We
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: have de Aaron Fox right now for a reason, and
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I fully expect to him to sign a three to
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: four year extension. So there's a five year window right
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: now for the Spurs to win a championship. I mean,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: with Windy, our window is gonna be open barring injury,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: no matter what. But if you want to win now
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: with the Aaron Fox on the roster, it's a five
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: year window.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it gets a lot. It gets a lot.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: More interesting if if they have If the Spurs they
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: end up with like two top eight picks, if they
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: get the number one pick, it's pretty much over.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: At that point, it's pretty much over.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: It's a done deal that the Bucks are gonna go go,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: try to make a package with the Spurs.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But man, but if we do get the number one
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: overall pick, do we give up a lot?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: No, you don't give up a lot.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: You think it's him and like maybe two other picks.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I think I think it would kind of be like
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a Chet situation or Stephan Castle want you would want
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Giannis and aj Green for a Cooper flag.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I just want aj Green so we can have Marco
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Bell and Nelly or Patty Mills on the roster.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: So we could just have shit another guy, get another
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: another shooter, pure shooter at this point, probably Gary Trent.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: But people, Dame's not gonna play next year. Dame's not
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: playing at all next year, and like that's like Kyrie. No,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: a bad season without Kyrie and Dame is going to
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: be crazy. But but yeah, Dame, he's not going to
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: be playing next season, and I don't know he's gonna
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: want to go through that type of season.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: No, even at that, it'd be what mid second round
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: by the time they get back and you're in playoff basketball.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: And it's not like he can wait for the Bucks
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: for them to be bad one year and then like
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: hope they get a number one overall pick the next
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: after this season, Like we don't even know who's the
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: top A j Bons what's his name from the number
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: one recruit that committed to BYU because he like you're
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: thinking that he's like gonna be himself, you know, for
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the next year after this to be the number an
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: overall pick.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Like I think what people like what you're saying with
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Spurs fans and even like there's a Bulls page, it's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like I trade away everybody in a heartbeafore Yannis, Like
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: people don't realize Gianni's averaged thirty four ten and twelve
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the last ten games whenever Dame wasn't there, so you
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: put that obviously won't average that over a full season,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but you get the right players around him, and now
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: he's showing a playmaker element element you. I don't care
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you drop anybody other than a few guys maybe Joki, Sga, Wimby, Wimby,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: There's a couple guys Luca something like that. But other
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: than that, you do you trade anything for Gianni's anything, It.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Does not matter what it takes you.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: You trade for Gianni's So yeah, nah, but all right,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: any sleeper teams hold on.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: But with this, this is where I was about to
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: talk about. Okay, I think the Bucks don't trade honest.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: They only trade honest to wherever he wants to go.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I'm being completely honest. I think he's They're gonna ask
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: give me three teams. We're gonna try getting into those
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: three teams because I think there's too much respect on
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: both sides for them to do him wrong. He brought
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: them a whole championship, you know, so I think there's
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: gonna be where he wants to go. They're gonna make
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: sure he goes to where he wants to go. But
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: sleeper teams Brooklyn Nets, like, I don't know. I don't
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: know he would he want to go to Brooklyn. That's
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: why I rolled them out. Golden State Warriors, maybe just
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: for one last run with Jimmy and Stephen Curry. They
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: could all win a championship, and I do think they
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: would be the favorites if this were to happen. If
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I'm being completely honest, to win the championship next year,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: one sleeper team that I too sleeper teams to be honest,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: give me the Washington Wizards and then give me, the
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Portland Trailblazers. I think right now, the way that the
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Portland Troublazers set up there seeking one star one star, yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: to kind of push them over the hump to being
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: this really good squad in the Western Conference, that caused
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of problems, and I think Giannis would be
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: that person for them. They have, they have probably the
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: one of the most complete young rosters in the entire NBA.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: They got Anthony Simon, Shaden Sharp, Denny ad Vija, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: there's a Scoot Henderson and a couple others.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: To defensive for real.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: They have they have, They have people everywhere. And then
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: if you look at the Washington Wizards, Me and you
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: talked about it kind of on our own, you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Blal Kalalab, Jordan Poole, Alexandra saw Kean, Keith Shawn, George
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Keishawn Jeordan, Ye, yeah, Bub Carrington. They got pieces there
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: that are not ready to win now, but give them
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: two or three years. I think the Washington Witches are
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: gonna be a problem in the in the Eastern Conference,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: and I think Jannis pushes them forward a lot faster
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: than than what people expect.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to look anywhere else.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And A. J. Johnson's also there too, so they got
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: more ple they young, and they still have a top
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: pick this year, so Cooper flag is still also an
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: option for them.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I just think, like, okay, if this is just a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: team out of left field, like I literally barely thought
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: about this right now, the Minnesota Timberleves could realistically offer
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Buck to trade.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Package well, like Julius Randall, David.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert, one of the one of those guys, yeah gone.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't want a stationary player around Giannis Rudy Gone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: That's the reason why Brook Lopez is so good with him,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: because he can stretch the floor by just catching and shooting.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Both those guys you could trade away Randall, Rudy Gobert.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: You still have nas Reed there and you have draft picks.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You have draft picks on draft picks right now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: So how about this New York Knicks or the other
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: draft capitals. Gone?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: You think, but they have players, they have they have
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: players to throw ob Michel Bridges, Karl Anthony Towns one
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of those. Honestly, if if I'm them, I throw away
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: those those three guys there for Giannis not only does it. Yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I think the goal would for sure to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: be to keep cat. But like if he had to go, hmmm,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think Cleveland the Pacers. He definitely wouldn't want
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to go to the Pacers.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: That's one.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: That's when he goes.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: To the Pacers though, that would be a scary team.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: If he has shooters all around him and guys that
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: like to move the ball around, he would just be
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: open all the time. Yeah, no, that would be Rick Carlisle,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: great coach, you know.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So, I don't think there's any other option really.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Like Miami, he has kind of lost that. Yeah, it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: kind of culture. And then they they'd have to deplete
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: their entire roster.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Khalail Ware would be gone. I think Tyler hero would
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: be gone.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't think. No, I don't think
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: there's nobody else that There's nobody else that give away
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: some real assets.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I think Rockets, Thunder and Spurs, yeah, the three, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I think for a champion ship.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Now, I think, okay, okay, let me ask you this.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because there's a bunch of
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: rumors by a bunch of good reporters as that Boston
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: is gonna kind of revamp their roster because thirty mil Drew,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Drew Holliday, Chris third contract, Chris stops, Jalen Brown, He's
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: about to go in that fat contract.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: They're keeping Jayleen Brown.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But if they trade for Giannis, do you trade away
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown? Probably what Drew Holiday, Drew Holliday, Peyton Pritchard.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Because they would try keeping No because they have paid on.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: The chief, try to keep Christops, get a stretch.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: They would keep Christops and paying Prichard for sure. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: think Derrick White is going to be asking for thirty
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: two and I don't know if they're gonna do that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And then even though I heard him rumors of him
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: coming back to the Spurs actually so, I don't know, but.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: It makes sense for the Bucks.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: It does make sense for the Celtics. But with the
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Bucks want to trade to a top contender in the East,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I mean they wouldn't be an here no more but you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: But you get assets, no wells. As far as the Celtics,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it helps like clear out the books where it's only
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: two guys getting paid Giannison Tatum.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Are there Celtics coming up on where they're about to
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: have a top draft pick in a couple of seasons
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I think so, I think they have the draft picks too,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that have draft picks to throw. So I'm thinking like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, Derek White, Drew Holliday. Let's just say that
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: those three guys. So that helps the Bucks out immediately
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: as far as keeping their window open. If you have
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, maybe not a superstar, but a good star,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and then you have two good to great role players
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and Derek White Drew Holiday, then you have that along
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: with Brook Lopez.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe dam gets back.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You can run a smaller lineup, so it makes sense
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you still be in playoff contention and you have a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: star that you could build around, maybe not superstar, but star.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Then the Celtics clear out the books and you have
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: argued or you do have two top five players on
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: your team.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Yah, It's it's just it's just I would I wish
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: he would go anywhere else, to be honest with you,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: besides the Rockets are and Thunder. I'm just saying if.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: He goes to the West, if he goes to the West,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it's gonna just be even. Right now, it's Boston and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Cleveland right now in my opinion, in my opinion, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it'd really be Boston Cleveland after that, there'd be nobody
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: else that stands a chance.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Bro, I just have a feeling Indiana is gonna make
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: a move in the offseason.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I think, Man, it's just Andy. They're just a tricky
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: team because they.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Need all their players to like how they play the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: bat or their style of basketball.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Where this is Rick Carlisle specialty. Bro, Like, honestly, like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: just give me players that can play together, and we're
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: gonna do something.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: No, for sure, but all right, any other any other
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: talks about the Gianni sweepstakes or no.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: No, I think we've covered all of it, to be honest,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just pretty excited to see Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: No, I'm excited to see that too.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: He all stays.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I know, just Ruin ruins this entire twenty minute, twenty
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: minute topic that we had.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: You know what, he's going to the Bulls.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: We're throw away everything to him if if we get
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: if we get you honest, I'm buying my jersey.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: We're actually throwing every player. I don't care, it's just
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: be honest.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just give me y honest on my roster. I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: don't care who else you throw on my team? All right,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do this right here. As far as
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: with these first round matchups, instead of going over the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: entire we'll we'll break down some of these matchups right here.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But we're gonna try to break down this series in
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: about one to two sentences here, and we're gonna start
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: in the Western Conference with the Thunder versus the.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Grizzlies, which it was a four to Oh Sueite.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And John Moran got hurt in the third game, So
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: what what's your summer?
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Where was Shye at though?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: It's valid, it's it's valid if Okay, my my sentence.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Was saying, yeah, I think Shae playing it would have
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: been more dominating. If if Shaye played like Shaye, it
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: would have been more domination.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my sentence is gonna be Thunder. Look ready, that's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be my sentence right there. So we'll talk about
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: thunder Nuggets in a second. We'll talk about thunder Nuggets
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in a second. So because I know we're gonna get
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to that one, all right, This next matchup right here,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the one that we disagreed on we talked about over
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: two two separate episodes right here, Nuggets versus Clippers, where
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets one and seven.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: They found a defense. The Nuggets found a defense.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: You know, if I said it's gonna be Josh was wrong,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be my Nuggets.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: The Nuggets found a defense.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Josh was wrong.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: But all right, I don't know if you kind of
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: want to like cover bases with this series.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Right on that one, on that on the Nuggets, Clippers
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: honestly came out of far left. Like I really, truly,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think anyone expected for the Nuggets defense to
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: be that good in this series.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, No, I can't even say that. I can't even
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: say that, go ahead, good.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like we knew. I didn't take
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: account I didn't count out what what nikolay Okich would do.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I said that specifically, they're not gonna stop Jokich, but
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the guys on the other side, they're gonna for the
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Clippers are gonna dominate. Yeah, but they just did not
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Like everyone on the Nuggets answered the call when especially
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: came to the matching assignments, always being in their spots.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: They played fluid basketball almost the entire time. Even when
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: they were down, they made their way back into the games.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: They really disrupted Kawhi Leonard's flow for majority of the series.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: They eliminated James Harden at least for two games. So
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It was the Clippers did not show
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: up the way that they had been doing towards the
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: end of the regular season.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, I look back on the notes, So
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you had Clippers in six, I had Nuggets in seven.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And the biggest thing I put is playoff Jamal Murray
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: gonna come back? And how is James Harden gonna do?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And I think those were the two biggest swing factors
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: in this And okay, just quick kind of like, well,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it's kind of on this series right here. James Harden
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: whenever the intensity rises. I'm not trying to say this
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: dude is not an all time great player, but it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just he is a great regular season player. But when
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it comes to the playoff win, then physicality, when it
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: gets intense, when the bright moments show up, he cannot.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Be a number two.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: He's a number three at best on a championship roster.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry he can't. And then even even Kawhi when
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: he started getting picked up full court by Aaron Gordon,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: or Christian Brown. He didn't look like the same guy.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: And I think this happens all the time with the Clippers.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: The Clippers, they have some momentum going to the playoffs
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and next thing you know, their championship contenders, and then
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: they fail to live to those expectations.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: It's just there was a big difference.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: You saw Kawhi Lennard, who had moments where he looked
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like one of the best players in the league. Then
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: you saw the best player in the league show up
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: night in a night out. M So, okay, how do
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you think this impacts James Harden?
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Right here?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: It's I know it's beating the drum right here, But
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: do you do you think it does really anything to them?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Nah? I don't think it does either anything for I
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: think I think Kawhi and James Harden don't gain anything.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, they don't lose anything if from
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: losing in the playoffs, but they would have gained a
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: lot from winning the championship. They don't lose anything, but
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: they would have gained a lot. I don't know if
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: you feel the same way.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just like more of what we
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: known about these players, like it's like, okay, well this
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: is just another testament to how these players are in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the playoffs right here. But all right, sadly we're gonna
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: get to this next series right here. So when I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: lost twenty bucks to my dad and I have.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: To give it free haircut to who my boy divine
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: m dang.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah see I probably I didn't lose as much money
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: as you.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: It was just twenty bucks for me, so I know
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: haircuts are a little bit more expensive. But Lakers versus Timberwolves,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: where it wasn't five, to be fair, it was Lakers
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: in five, just the opposite way the Timberwolves. They won
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: this series in five games pretty surprisingly. Some takeaways, Josh.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: One sentence? What more does Lebron have to do?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: My I have two sentences. I have two sentences.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: One of is gonna be Anthony Edwards rises in the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: playoffs again. Luka, Doncic needs to get in shape.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Those those are my two sentence right there.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I just think that you saw the biggest difference between obviously,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like okay, for people, quick quick off topic. If you're
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: expecting a forty one year old to be the best
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: player in this series when there's two top ten players
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: both Luka, Doncics and Anthea were to be the best
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: player night in the night out, which he did at moments,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and be able to lead them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: It's it just proves a godcase. It proves a gocase.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: If you're holding a forty one year old, forty one
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: year old to a guy who played back in nineteen
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety six, if you're holding him
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to that standard, it should show. It should show exactly,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And I think that the biggest swing factor.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Josh?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Was it Game four where JJ Reddick played all of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: his guys in the entire second half?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Was a Game four or Game three?
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Game? It's gotta be Game three? No, Game four? Game
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: four one?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, you're right, I think.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Okay three, it's Game three or four?
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I think it was Game four.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I think that was just JJ Reddick showing a young
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: man's mistake right there, and that ended up costing them
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the entire series right there. And also one more thing,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: at I think you could pretty much say the same thing.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: At as a playmaker was inconsistent in the regular season,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and somehow in the playoffs he looked like one of
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: disagree with me if you want. He looked like one
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: of the best playmakers like in the league by far
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: in this series right here.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as the Los Angeles Lakers, Lebron comes
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: off of averaging what in this series thirty eleven, seven
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: six or seven sixty five sixty percent from the field,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: five stills and turnovers, five stills and blocks, a game
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: model of consistency on defense in this entire series. But
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Austin Reeves, Luka Doncics don't show up to help him
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: out offensively when he when he's taken the all the
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: all the matchups on defense, and these other guys aren't
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: stepping up on their side of the on the other
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: side of the ball where he's probably to break a
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: little bit, you you kind of give the game away.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: And honestly, for JJ Reddick, you got to put Jackson
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Hayesen in game five. When you see Rudy Gobert going
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: twenty and twenty, at least he's gonna put a body
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: in front of him, dude, Like he Rudy Gobert isn't
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: gonna do that against a solid big man, bro, Like
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna do that, Like he made defensively, Rudy
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Gobert is gonna do his thing. I will say, download, yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: unless he's playing Wimby. But you know, and but when
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: it comes to like getting five extra boards that could
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: help your team out, I mean, you gotta put Jackson
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Hayes in the game. You gotta put him in the game.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: But at least put a body in front of Rudy
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Gobert to like box him out, to make his job hard.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: But no, you decide to keep Ruey Hachimara, keep Lebron
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: James in for forty two minutes, like to try doing
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: try stopping Rudy Gobert. It's just bad, bad coach errors
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: when it comes to most the most important moments in
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: this series.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree one hundred percent. And well, Anthony.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Edward Edwards, he did show up, Yeah, he did show up.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And also one more player that showed up and who
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: had who's never had a great playoff series before. This
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: is his first great playoff series, Julius Randall. I know
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: he had some injuries and he came back a couple
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of times where he was barely getting healthy. So this
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: is the first time where he was really in the playoffs.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: And like was healthy and actually had rhythm. Julius Randall
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: played amazing in this series.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: There was so many buckets in this series where the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Lakers were starting to come back, they were throwing their
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: punch and then Julius Randall he would kind of hit
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: like a what's it called, like a stable and shot
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: to kind of like just put the Minnesota temples, just
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: just calm them down and just let their offense keep flowing.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing right there. He
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest X factors. I think you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: talked about it, Josh before the series preview, you said,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: can Julius round will actually step up?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And he did exactly that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: So all right, let's go to this last series in
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the Western Conference that just ended yesterday, Warriors one in
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: seven here, So what's your quick.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Reaction Rockets need a score, need a star?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Mine would be championship experience matters, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, chip
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: playoff experience matters. So okay, I know we talked about
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: it with Gianni's but say there's no Yannis sweepstakes, where
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: do the Rockets go. What's the first thing the Rockets
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: try to do?
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: In this offseason, move up for Cooper Flagg, go get
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Kevin Durant one of those two options right there. Yeah,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I think they they need a score. They need someone
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: to take over games when they need Alfred Stinginguda had
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: a great series. I will say Alfred Stinnguten did his thing,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: but in the reality of it is everyone outside of him,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: no one's a score. Like Jalen Green's way too inconsistent.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: He's kind of like, I don't think he's as good
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: as Jordan Poole, if I'm being completely honest with you,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's on that level. I think he's
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: really inconsistent sometimes, and it showed in this series not
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: being able to have a second option after sing Gun
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: was kind of tired. Because Sanggun himself has his liabilities.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: You know, he's not great off the screen, he's not
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: great off ball. He really needs the ball in his
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: hands isolation basketball to really get things done on the
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: offensive end. He's a good defender, but they need someone
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: else on the Rockets to be able to score. As
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: far as the Warriors, you can only hold Stephen Curry
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: down for so long until Stephan Curry's going to do
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: his thing. And especially when he's not even the primary
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: ball handed on his team no more, it's Jimmy Butler.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Stephan Curry is going to do his thing, especially jim
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler had a great series, honestly, and I saw
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I think it was. Rick Carlyle says something like, if
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: let's say, if Jimmy Butler was on the Warriors the
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: entire season, he would have made an argument for Jimmy
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Bouler to be in the MVP conversation. That's kind of
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: how he's kind of boosted the Warriors' potential going into
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: the playoffs for them having that secondary ball Hindler in
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: primary another primary scorer for the Golden State Warriors, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Draymond Green. Draymond Green did his thing in this series. Defensively,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: it almost was too easy for him.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely locked up Sengoon in Game seven. And
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I just think that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: One thing that the Warriors do I hate that they
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: don't use it more. I think you agree to hear Josh,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: is that whenever the Warriors they can't get any offense going,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: whenever that game was getting close in the third quarter,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I know we're watching it outside the other day or
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: yesterday but they go like high pick and roll and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: have I saw basketball with Steph Curry, he could be
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest at I saw basketball high, I
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: saw basketball behind the three point line, and they just
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: never use it. And against the Rockets yesterday they spammed
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: that and it's no coincidence. Steph, what was it twenty
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: points in the second half? Nineteen, yeah, nineteen in the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: second half. So it just shows that they can use that,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: but they just never really use it. I get the system,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: but I feel like Steph Curry, he could be so
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: much more dynamic using that right there.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: And it just it's just the experience. It just matters
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I know some people they try to downplay it, but
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you need playoff experience. And the Rockets we'll see what
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: they do next year. And I'm and Thompson still better
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: than Cooper Flag.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I'm standing by that. I'm standing by that right there.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, next one, we're gonna go to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. Here Cavaliers versus Miami Heat. The Calves
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: they swept the Miami Heat expected. No, no, not much
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to say. All right, let's just move on. Let's just
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: move on, all right. Next one Pacers Bucks, in which
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the Pacers they won, and five it looked like this
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: series was gonna get close, and then dame towards Achilles
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: game three. So what's your quick reaction?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Quick reaction at first that the series would go to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: seven Pacers, but after seeing that first game, I said
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: it would end in five. And I just think for
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: me again after that, watching that game one, I just
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: thought the Bucks were overmatched and over not overpowered per se,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: but definitely out They would be outplayed in every aspect
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: of basketball, I think in the in this series, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: that was evident after Game one that the Pacers would
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: do this to them.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bucks, they had the clear star player and Giannis,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: but everything else went to the Bucks, and I'm into
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: the Pacers. And then in game five, I know it
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was a crazy breakdown, but say, even if the Bucks
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: it win game six, I'm still not confident at all
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: that they beat the Pacers at Indy or I don't
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: even think they beat I don't even think they beat
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the Pacers in game six, even on their own floor.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I just think that.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And also another thing, Tyre's Halliburton showed a different level.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Like scoring wise, scoring wise, and now remember the stat
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: that I told you from games? So yeah, I know.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: So do you know how I.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Told you the stat every time how Tyree scores over
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: twenty points. Now it's up the records up to twenty
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: seven and three and they haven't lost in the playoffs yet,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: So that's the number to look out for.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: It.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: It's not the b Rop stat, it's not undefeated, but
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that's a stat. Every time Tyree's Halibard Burton scores twenty points,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: they win the game.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: And he took over in.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: That fourth quarter right there of Game five. But all right,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I think we hit this one on the money right here.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is the most accurate one. The
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: New York Knicks versus the Detroit Pistons.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Right here.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: The Knicks they won in six games. Jalen Brunson pretty
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: much close out this game in Game six quick quick reactions.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Nick struggled. I think in this in this one a
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: little bit. They had a tough time against the Detroit Pistons.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: Came down to the end almost in every single game.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: They only won every game by a combined six points.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: So they have a lot to fix, but they get
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the job done. As far as the Pistons I think
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: the Pistons have a bright future ahead of them.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: H Yeah, that was what I'll was gonna say. Kate
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Cunningham is a star, and I you know this just
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: as much as I do. Star players or young star players.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Whenever they're go into the playoffs their first time, they
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: always struggle. But I could say this was one guy
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: who rarely struggled in a playoff series versus a good
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: team in the New dek Knicks. But were you gonna say,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know who is an off topic,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: especially well, well, not necessarily because we're gonna mention this
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: next guy.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you were there for that conversation.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Me and Ryan were talking about it. I don't know
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: if you were there. We were saying, who do we
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: think is better? Powlow or Kate Cunningham. Hm. I would
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: go Kate, but Ryan gave a good argument for Powlow,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Like he was saying that he thinks he's just as
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: good offensively then Kate Cunningham. Just Kate Cunningham's better at
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: passing well because he plays point guard. Yeah, and then
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: and then he was also saying that he will think
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: power better defensively.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Hmm. Well, we've other than this series. We've never seen
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Kid really be or guard the best player.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And whenever he did guard Jalen Brunson, he did have
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: some good possessions against him. I guess it's more TBD
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: as far as with that, but as of right now,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I'd go with.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Kate because he could be the engine of an offense
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: with I know.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: What we're talking about it when we're playing basketball yesterday.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: That's why I was trying to remember who you were
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: in the conversation or not.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't remember that. No, No, it's close though.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: It's close though. Okay, after this series, is Kid officially
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: in the top twenty conversations Kid?
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's from my opinion, second team All NBA.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So I would say, yes, okay, okay, I'm just making sure,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: but oh yeah, okay. This is another thing that I
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to bring up here. I don't remember the exact
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact stat, but Jalen Brunson and
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: now three playoffs series with the New York Knicks has
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: had eight eight forty point games. The only people that
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: have more is Lebron James and Kevin Durant. Since since
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the twenty tens. He has more than Steph he has
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: or he even had more than Kobe. He had more
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: than some of these other guys right here. So I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: feel like Jalen Brunson, he's one of the hardest guys
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: as far as to read whenever, like we look back
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: in history, because I don't think he's ever gonna win
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: a championship in all honesty, but.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I think, okay, solid question right here. Okay, it's gonna
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: be a top topic, a really hot topic. Okay in
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: their primes talking peak, you take one of these two players.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: You know where you're going, Kyrie Irving.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Or Jalen Brunson, just like there's no context behind it
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: No context the number one player on their teams.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Who are you taking the number one players on their team?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I would take Jalen Brunson as far as the number
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: one on a team. We've seen the scoring output he
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: has and.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Jyalen Brunton wasn't also this when he was a number two,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: So let's just take that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, okay, i'd say this.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: If you're just building a roster around this player, I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: would take Jalen Brunson. But if you're having a co
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: star Kyrie Irving is one of the best co stars
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: ever ever. You've seen him work, work with two ball
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: dominant guys, and he could get a bucket on when
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: he has like a twenty percent usage trait. You've seen
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: him with Lebron and Luca, what he's done.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: They've had success.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: But a number one, A number one. I'm taking Jalen Brunton.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I'm taking Jalen Brunson, no questions asked.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: What about you, I'm taking Jalen Brunton. Okay, I think
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Jalen Brunton off. I think Harry Irving. Damn, this is
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: such a hard conversation. I think Kyrier Irving, in my
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: opinion as a point guard, is probably the best finisher
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: around the rim and almost the history of basketball. But yeah,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I just feel like the way Jalen Brunton can take
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: over a basketball game is better than when Kyrie Irving
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: can take over a basketball game.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I can't disagree with that at all. I really can't.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Just you know who I thought you're gonna ask.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: In all honesty, I thought you're gonna ask Jalen, Jalen
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Brunson or Carmelo.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Who's the best nick of all time?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: No, not no, not Nick. I think that's gonna go
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: to I think that's gonna go to Mellow, just due
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: to nostalgia. But like, who do I think over Patrick Ewing?
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Just mellow? He he had that, He had that.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like this is just a basic
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: word to use, but I can't explain it any other way.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: He just had that aura. He just had that New
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: York vibe to him, you know what I mean. Doesn't
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: have that New York vibe now, he doesn't have that
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: New York vibe. No, but going into the playoff series,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: would you rather have Mellow.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Or Jalen Brunson.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Freak? You know who?
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: You want to say that Mellow is so good at basketball,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I'm like reliving nostalgia though thinking of Mellow in my head.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: So like I was just thinking like Amari Stodemeyer j R.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Smith a mon like, dude, those teams were fun to watch.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Bro Then yeah, Chandler.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Two K thirteen the Knicks one of the Mellow.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Well, my cousin's favorite team growing up, favorite player growing
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: up was Mellow. So I would like kind of be
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: on like a little bit of like a Nicks ben wagon.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Outside of the Spurs, and I still to this day,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: I think if I were to have a favorite basketball
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: team outside the Spurs, it would be the New York
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Knicks because of Carmelo.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: That's it's hard to disagree with that, because Mellow He's
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: just fun to watch, even being a Bull. It's just
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: like whenever the Knicks would play anybody else, it's just
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: they're just fun. You just have two highlight reels and
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Aman Jumper and j R. Smith and then Mellow. There's
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: one moment that sticks in my head whenever the Knicks
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and Bulls were playing, and the Bulls they were up,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I think like six points, no, five points, and Melo
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: just hits back to back threes in the garden and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: like after that, like no, I'm pretty sure people know
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: I'll show you the clip afterwards.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I think I'd have to lean towards Jalen Brunton, though.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's there's only one right answer here.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: There's only one right answer.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Even though Melow Dylan Brunton is so good at basketball,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I think, and and it's crazy to think he's at
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: eight eight forty point games and he's been surrounded by
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: or he was surrounded by Luca at first. Just imagine
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: if he didn't, if he was like the sole guy
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: on the MAVs. You know, he probably have like ten
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: twelve at this rate, he don't have as many as
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant has twelve. He's only four win. Realistically,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: he could probably do this against Boston. They probably won't win,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: but he could do this against Boston. But all right,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: let's go to this last series right here. As far
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: as this quick summary, Celtics versus Magic Boston, they get.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: A gentleman sweep here.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Expected m.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Magic can't score at all.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're actually the worst scoring team in the entire NBA.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst three point shoot, three point field goal percentage,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: whatever it is.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know when it comes to put and they're
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: the worst.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no for sure.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: But all right now it's time for we get a
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: little redemption here. Josh, we've had we had some misshaps
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: as far as with our predictions here, so let's go.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go to like just or this next one right here.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: We have a new shot, new dampntion right here. First,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: we're gonna start with an exciting game right here, which
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: is actually tonight.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Two guys who are.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: In the MVP conversation here, the Oklahoma City Thunder versus
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. Nuggets just won a game seven two days ago.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Now they're facing arrested I think for a week and
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: a half Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Who's winning? And how many games? And what.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Give me the Oklahoma City Thunder in six games?
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: And why I believe that the Thunder or more? Dude,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: this is so hard right now because the way that
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets played last series. The other thing is are
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: they gonna be able to do that night and night
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: out again versus the Oklahoma City Thunder. And I believe
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Shaye didn't even reach his potential versus the Memphis Grizzlies either,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: So there's still a lot more he can he can do.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Chet home grin as Okay, I did say this earlier
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: in the earlier in the season. Why a lot of
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: why I think that Mavericks made their moves forgetting Anthony
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Davis is for the prospect of facing the Denver Nuggets
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. The Thunder have options to throw at
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: at Nikola Jokic. They can throw Isaiah Hart, Signed Chet Holmgren,
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Jalen Williams the other JDub and then they have good
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: rotational pieces to be able to defend Nikola Yokich to
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the best of their ability consistently and also bring help
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: defense at the same time. They match up very well.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: I think Shay gil just, no one on the perimeter
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: for the Denver Nuggets can really touch him right now.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I think the way James Harden. If James Harden was younger,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: it would be different, but right now, Shae gil just
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: is younger the MVP of the league. I know the
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: arguable other MVPs on the other side, but SGA, with
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: the weapons around him, they'll being the second best three
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: point shooting team in the entire NBA also helps out
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: the Oklahore City Thunder quite a bit and also being
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: arguably oh well, they're not arguing. They are a top
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: three defense consistently through the entire season in the entire NBA.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with the Oklahoma City Thunder in
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: this one. But I do think the Nuggets are gonna
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: put up a really good fight.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Man.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Okay I'm going with, okay, see here, but I'm gonna
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: go in seven games and h And the only reason
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: why I'm saying this is because I respect Nicola Jokic
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and I respect playoff Jamal mar.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: I wanted to go seven, but I just think I
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: respect the Thunder's team a lot, you know.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: So it's like, well, okay, let me, let me just
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: tell you this Vegas line right here. So okay, see,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: they're favored by ten and a half here. So so
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: that's that's crazy right there.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: They think they're gonna dominate them.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's higher than Boston, New York.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: It's higher than Cleveland Pacers, it's higher than Minnesota. Oh
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: my goodness. I'm gonna read you these spreads in a
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: second whenever we get to them. But yeah, know, I
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I think, like, like we're saying, nobody could stop Jokic.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: But if it was Clippers Nuggets whoever faced the Thunder,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like Clippers they had a better chance. But
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: obviously the Nuggets won because they had the better player.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: But Sga can match the firepower of Jokic as far
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: as an offensive engine. And not only do you have
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: bodies to throw out Yogi, you have bodies to throw
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: out Jamal Murray too.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: I know that are you gonna buy that shirt? I
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: think so, No, you need to buy that shirt right away.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: But I think just I know they had Derek Jones Junior,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: they had Chris Dunn, they had Kawhi Leonard. At times
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: they could throw out Jamal Murray. But I think there's
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: even better people on the Oklahoma City Thunder. You have
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Keeson Wallace, you have Lou Door, you have Alex Cruz, So,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: you have Sga. You have bodies on bodies on bodies.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And the thing about the Clippers that Chris Dunn wouldn't
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: make you pay for leaving them open, Derek Jones Junior
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: wouldn't make you pay for leaving them open. But the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: guys on the Thunder, you can't leave any of them open.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: They'll they'll spread you out completely. And Jay Dubb has
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: consistently knocked down threes, So as Isaiah Joe So, as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Keisean Wallace, Aaron Wiggins, chat Holmgrin.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I just think that the Thunder their firepower is just
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: so dynamic. It's just a higher ceiling, and their floor
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: is is so high that even on bad games, they're
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be competing with the Nuggets. Okay, I'll say this,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: if it happens to get to the clutch time, I'm
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: giving to the Nuggets.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I think the Nuggets they're the best clutch team in
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the league because that pick and roll they could run
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: with Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokic. Nobody can stop that.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: So if it goes down to the last five minutes,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: give me the Nuggets. But throughout the entirety of the game,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the Thunder they're the better team.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: So that's how I'm breaking it down.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: So all right, I can't disagree, but I'm still going
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Thunder and six Thunder.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: But all right, X factors, X.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Factors, I mean the Mvpskich that's who it's gonna come
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: down to, night in a night out.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now, let's different.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Under half chet Holmgren. Check Holmgren's the X factor.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a different question.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Who's gonna have the better individual series? You you think
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: by far?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I don't know. I kind of want to bet,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: but I don't know how we could bet this.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: As far as who has a better series, they're two
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: totally different.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, because SGA's best game of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: the series, isn't Nikola Jokic's best game of the series,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: like better game of the series, you know, yeah, better
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: performance of this series.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: But like you were saying earlier with the Grizzlies, SGA
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: definitely needs to play a lot better. If he plays
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: how he did against the Grizzlies, they lose. Yeah, They're
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: gonna lose this series, just because the Nuggets are that good.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: And also I feel like Tyron lu wasn't really able
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of David Adelman's his first time being
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think Mark Dagnall can do that.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Mark Dagnall is one of the best coaches. I know
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Tyler's up there, but I think Mark Dagnall is even better.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Quick question, how much longer the Clipper is gonna hold
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: this team together?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Do you do you trade away Kawhi?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Who wants Kawhi m Okay? James Harden? Okay, who wants
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: James Harden?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: James Harden?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: He's a number three, He's a number three anywhere. But okay,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: just just hypothetical here. The Rockets are a great regular
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: season team, they just need to score in the playoffs.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing they're missing, right, and the wing
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: would be perfect. What if they give up something, it
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: probably won't have to be crazy for Kawhi. They give
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: up a package for Kawhi. He doesn't have to play
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: crazy amount of games because San Antonio. Hey, maybe he's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: that Antonio, but I'm thinking Houston Rockets here. If there's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a team, a younger team that doesn't eat Kawhi in
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: the regular season, they just need him to be in
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and score twenty twenty five and be a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: clutch player. Would fit nice. Nex to Sengoon still be
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: that defensive monster. Emyodoka knows him because the San Antonio.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: So there's ties back there.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is true.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: That's that's the only realistic thing I could look at.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: If it's just Zubach, I feel like they'll keep.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah Zubac, No, they'll they'll keep. But I feel like
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: their team is just in a mole to win, to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: win right now, because you have guys like Chris Doun,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you have guys like Ben Sims, Derek Jones Junior, even Zuboc.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Their piece is to win right now, so so they
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: can't they can't rebuild, in all honesty, they can't. But okay,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: since we're done with that series right there, let's move
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: to this next one right here. I know it's very early,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: this series just barely came out yesterday right here, but
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  Speaker 1: we have to we have to give a prediction for it.
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves versus the Golden State Warriors, a six versus
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: seven matchup, and where the Timberwolves. They have home court now,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and the Timberwolves in Game one are favored by seven
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  Speaker 1: and a half points. That's the lowest spread of out
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: of all these four games are here, which is crazy
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: seven and a half points. So Timberwolves they got almost
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: like four almost a full week off. Warriors forty eight
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: hours or tomorrow they're playing the Timberwolves in Minnesota. So
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: who's winning and why you go first? Okay, So I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: definitely think this is a different matchup. I know people
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: they're saying, oh, well, the Timberwolves are better version than
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the Rockets.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I disagree.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I think the Warriors' main players, Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: they do better against taller players, but not necessarily athletic defenders,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: and that's what the Timberwolves have. I don't think Jaden McDaniels.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think NA kill Alexander Walker. Those guys obviously
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: you'll throw every once in a while. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: those main guys right there that are gonna be guarding
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  Speaker 1: Steph and Jimmy Butler can really stop them. So I
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  Speaker 1: just think that the Timberwolves just what they showed, and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: as far as a playmaker and their defense, I think, gimme.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: I know I picked OKC in seven, but I think
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: that this one is gonna be another classic series right here.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Give me the Minnesota Timberwolves in seven because they also
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: do have some playoff experience and Anthony Edwards he's better
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: than any player on the Rockets, And honestly, honestly, you
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: could argue Anthony Edwards is the best player in this
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: series right here, and you really wouldn't get no pushback.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I know Steph Curry had a great series, but Anthony
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Edwards had just as good, if not a better series
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: than Steph Curry. I know you can't compare series of series,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: but just what they did in that particular series and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: was better than Lebron and Luca, and.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: We know how we viewed Luca. Both of us, both
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: of us. We know how we view Luca.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: So give me the Minnesota Timberwolves in seven games right here.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: But I think this is gonna be a classic right here.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna just be It's gonna be
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: another resume or another thing that adds to the resume
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: for Ant because he beat Nicola, Yoga, Jamal Murray, Kevin
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: ramp I was gonna say Bradley built, Devin Booker, Lebron, James,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Luca and now is gonna be Staff, Jimmy Butler and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Draymond So yeah, give me, give me the Ant man here.
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  Speaker 3: I just think what the Timberwolves can offer on the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: offensive and in the basketball offensive side of the offensive
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: side of the basketball is that they can score. They
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: can find a way to score no matter what, especially
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: with Anthony Edwards. They got willing shooters on on the outside.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: They got a player like Naseri that can kind of
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: match up very well against a lot of teams. I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: think the Warriors they showed a lot, especially from Quinton
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Post who I do like as a prospect this year.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Draymond Green. We know who he is defensively. I just
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: feel like the Timberwolves the way they played last series,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: especially coming into this one. They're ready to make a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: make a run in this playoffs. And I think the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors they're gonna do what they do. I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: think Stephen Curry is gonna do what he does. Jimmy
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Butler is gonna do what he does. But I think
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: in Game seven, the Minnesota timber Wolves are gonna win
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: this series.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: So you're going seven too, mm hmm, okay, okay, So
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: we're we haven't disagreed yet, and I don't think I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: No, we do have one.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Disagreement which we're gonna get to. We're gonna get to
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: in a second. But as far as X factors from
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: this one, I'm gonna have to go, oh, go ahead,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Draymond Green for the Golden State Warriors,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: I think Jaymond Green defensively is gonna have to step
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: up a big time. I think he's gonna have to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: take on the matchup of shutting down like a Nase
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Red and shutting down Rudy Gobert. I'm not saying they're
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: gonna give him problems offensively, because I don't think either
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: of those guys will give him problems offensively. I just
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: think when it comes to interior presence like rebounds and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: causing problems outside of scoring, I think he definitely would
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: have to be be at his best in this series.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah so, Okay, I know Jimmy Butler had a great series.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: We both agree on that. But I think this where we're.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Gonna have to see Miami heat playoff Jimmy here to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: match the Minnesota Timberwolves, and he's gonna need to reach
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: that level where.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I think he was playing hurt those last couple of games.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Also, yeah, so, and also it's a quick turnaround, so
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I think, Okay, it's how I think this series is
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: gonna go. I think Minnesota, since they have so much rest,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: they're gonna kind of front run the.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Warriors early in the series.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Then the then the Warriors are kind of gonna kind
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: of start just settling down in this series, find their
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: matches to pick on. But I think it's just gonna
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: be too late and they're gonna get it to seven.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: So I could see like Minnesota starting off two to oh,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: but say if the Warriors win game one, ho all,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if the Warriors win Game one, we might
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: have a different I might have a different outlook on
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: this series right here, but yeah, Imy Butler, he's my
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: X factor. And another one, Julius Randall. Can you do
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: what he did last or against what he did against
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the Lakers? Can you do it against the Warriors? I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: know they are more suit to guard Julius Randall. The
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Warriors are because they're just a better defensive team.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into our disagreement right here, because
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: we talked about it yesterday right here. The Cleveland Cavaliers
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: versus the Indianapolis Pacers.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: So the Pacers they won Game one.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: That's the only Round two matchup that happened. So okay,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: who you think is winning this series?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: And why.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: Give me the Indiana pacersix in seven games? I think
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: they're gonna take the Cleveland Cavaliers all the way to seven.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: I think their offense is the best, if our at times,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: the best in the entire NBA. They move the ball around,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: they find matchups. If you're taking me Kenny Atkins and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle, I'm taking Rick Carlisle every single time. I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: think they match up very well. I think Miles Turner
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: is a good piece. I think Pascal Siakam being guy
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: that can play in the not necessarily defensively in the interior,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: but he can do what he kind of wants on offense,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: playing freelance. Because Tyri's haliburn is the primary ball handler,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: he gives a lot of matchup problems to a lot
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: of teams. That's that's why Pascal Siakam's still so good
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: in the NBA. I believe that Andrew Nimhard, Aaron Smith,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Benedict Mather and all the other guys that they have
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: on this team, they all play their roles. TJ. McConnell
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: all play their roles. They know how to find their spots.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: It's not necessarily one man beating you. We had to
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: beat the entire team in the Enda Pacers because they
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: play as a team. And like you said, when Tyre's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Halib haliburtn does score above twenty, they cause a lot
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: of problems for a lot of teams. And I think
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: the Cleveland Cavaliers with Darius Garland dealing with an injury,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna be on that perimeter. It's gonna be
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of hero ball from Donovan Mitchell. I think
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: when it comes I know they have a lot more
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: players this year that they can move the ball around,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: like to say, like a Max Shrews, DeAndre Hunter and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: a couple other guys that they have there. But I'm
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: taking it into Pacers. It's gonna be an upset, a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: big time upset. And yeah, I tell like probably the
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: outsider when I say this, but Indiana Pacers in seven.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: In seven, Okay, Okay, just making sure I heard.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: We kind of saw what they can do last night
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think that, Okay, I think Darius
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Garland that's gonna be the biggest I'm gonna go out
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: and say my X factor, Darius Garland is the biggest
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: X factor whenever he gets back. They said game two,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Game three, he should be back. Whenever he gets back.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: First off, are they gonna be down two to oh?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: And the second thing is is he gonna be at
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: the same level that he was before. That's gonna be
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing. If he's not at the same level,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: then okay, I could definitely see an upset ruin here,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna be more than fine right here,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: even though it's a lower body injury. I just think
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: that the calves they're just they're just too good. I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: think I think this is going I'm I'm stuck between
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: six to seven games. I already picked the first two
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: series to go to go seven games. So I think
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: one of these are gonna end in six. I'm gonna
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: say Cleveland and six.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I think that the Calves they win.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I think they win game two, Game three, and then
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: after that, I see Cleveland winning. I see Cleveland winning
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Game five and game six. That's how I see it
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: So but it's definitely gonna be a tough series. I
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: think all of these.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about a series that's gonna come
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: down a clutch offense between both of these teams and
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: teams that are arguably the best at it. Outside of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets, these are the two teams right here
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: that you don't want to face in the clutch. So
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be who could execute better down the stretch?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And Tyres Halliburn can he be that score? Can he
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: be that real score for the Pacers? And at times
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: he shows it, but other times he does not show it.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, so give me Cleveland six. But it's honestly,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't take much convincing for you to for me
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: to pick the Pacers to win this series. In all honesty,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: this one's a coin flip just as well. So all right,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: as far as this last series right here, I think
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: this one's a little bit underwhelming. Right here, the Knicks
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: versus the Boston Celtics. Celtics are favored by nine and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: a half. So who's winning this series?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: And why give me the Celtics in four?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: So okay, we completely agree, We completely agree here. I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: think the Celtics are cleaning house here too. Now, just explain,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: just explain why.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: I just think their death is too much. I think
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: the Knicks had a hard time versus Detroit Pistons, who
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: are not the Boston Celtics. They won by a combined
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: of six points. They can't do that versus the Boston Celtics.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Everyone has to be on their a game. You have
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: to be able to outshoot the Boston Celtics, and that's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: something they're not going to be able to do. They
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: don't have enough with shooters on their team. Even Jaealen
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Brunson isn't that great of a three point shooter. So
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: it's from the get go the Boston Is are gonna
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: ragin threes on you, and you better hope to keep
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: up if they go in. That's all. Yeah, that's all
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: No, the Celtics, I feel like them in the thun
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: they're the best teams as far as like closing the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: game out early within like late first quarter, early second quarter.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Like they're they're teams that could like just wrap the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: game up really really quick. Obviously they're the two best
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: teams in the league, but they just have that they
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like they're it's their superpower, if that
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: makes sense. If you could get them late in the game,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: that's when you have that chance. But they they're kind
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: of like, you know what they are. They're kind of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: like prime Mike Tyson, like as far as they could
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: throw that punch and knock you out early.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: But if you just stay with them, if you happen
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: to get.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Into the late fourth quarter, into the clutch, then that's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: when you could beat them. But if not, Jrgan end
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: up getting knocked out. They end up getting knocked out
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: pretty early and quick. And the Pissons they have no
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: experience at all outside of Tobias Harris, Maleague Beasley and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior, who are role players. The Boston Celtics,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: they're a season They're a championship team with championship experience.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: They just won last year. So I think the News
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: is going to destroy the New York Knicks.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chris stops. Did they Knicks.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Five, five, twelve and like five and like two blocks
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: versus against him in the regular season.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Bro Chris stops back to New York.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: He's able to out of the paint.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: No, it's I think it's gonna get ugly to be easy. Yeah,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really ugly. Well, they play at five
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: of no at six o'clock. They play at six o'clock.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Boston is favored by nine and a half.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Like I said, they might even put Jason Tatum on
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: any towns and just like everyone else do their thing.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: I think just Jason Okay, just off topic right here.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like Jason Tatum, He's he might not be
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: the best player in the league, but he's one player
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: that has no weakness, like no like pure weakness. You
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: could say, like with Jokic, he's not a defender. You
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: could say Luca not a defender, and you could say
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: with s Ja he's not as good of a passer
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: as he as he should be for him being that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: high level of a score. Lebron's kind of a little
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: bit older steps a little bit older. Jason Tatum, there's
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: not really no weakness in his game. He might not
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: be the best at anything, but there's no weakness.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have to agree. I think there's there's a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: few players in the league that have no weakness and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: he's definitely one of them.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no for sure.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: But all right, so I'm gonna say these series right
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: here and see if there's so you had, okay, see
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: in six, I'd okay see in seven. We both had
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Minnesota and seven. You have Indian seven, I have Cleveland
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and six, and we both have Boston and four. So
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: there's two series that we completely agree on and there's
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: only one series where we have a different different way.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: In that way.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: And also Boston and Selis average one hundred and twenty
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: five points and forty eight percent from three The New
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: York Knicks in regular that's crazy.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: I think I think the Celtics they just hate the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Knicks at this point, because like there's there's certain times
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I think think it was the last one where the
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Celtics they lost like to no, it was to the
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Bulls something like that, and then they played the Knicks
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the next game and they just like went into like
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: playoff level, like they're just like, man.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: I like the Knicks a lot, but it's just not
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: gonna happen.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah No, But all right, all right, Josh, is there
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to cover this episode right here
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: before we get out of here?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Nope? Job basketball, No, I think we covered it all
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: right now. I really nothing else is coming to my
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: mind basketball news wise at all.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: No, But yeah, So as far as NFL wise, we're
• 1:17:38
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• 1:17:44
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• 1:17:46
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• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: their championship hopes, or did some teams overdraft, So make
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