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2022 Hokies Preview Panel · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast and welcome to
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  the boundary Corner podcast. 2022 poke season preview panel.
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  My name is Curtis Wilson and the brainchild behind this idea.
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  My partner. Brian Sigler, how are you today?
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  Big buddy. What's up Curtis man, we got a
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  big one tonight for everybody. This has been rolling around in
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  my brain since early spring. I'm glad we were to put it
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  together. And let's just say this.
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  I'm I'm height, I'm high. I'm running late today, to kick
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  it with these guys, to chop it up to talk some Hokies, let's do
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  it. Absolutely, man.
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  So fun we were chatting just before we got on everybody, like
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  everybody loaded. So let's start up Brian.
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  Our first panelist, he was a hokie offensive lineman from
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  1994 to 1998. He was all-big East.
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  He was a team captain, he is the founder of Victory, life and
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  death. Victory Life Legacy podcast.
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  He's also a co-host with his cousin scanning, Mike Vick know
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  if you ever heard of him on the Vic 757 podcast coming to us
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  from Northern Virginia, by the way, of the 757 mr.
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  Dwight Vic. What's up, man?
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  What a dope with that intro stuff?
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  That was a good interim like that.
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  Yeah, yeah. Let's bring our next panelist.
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  Our next panelist, he's hunkered down in Blacksburg Virginia,
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  he's got a big day tomorrow, with hokey media day.
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  He's the managing editor of sideline, and he holds down one
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  of the coveted, great chairs on that podcast, ladies and
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  gentlemen, David Cunningham, What's up guys?
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  Glad to be back my second time. Being on your guys podcast.
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  We had a lot of fun last time and excited for the panel.
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  Hell yeah, welcome back. It's going to be a good time.
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  I know you're excited about all the the media day Shenanigans
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  tomorrow and some of the practices periods you get to
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  watch and everything. So big day, big day, big day.
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  All right, Brian. Next as Brian is always said
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  this is a offensive lineman podcast so heylia course.
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  We've got another hokey offensive lineman from 2013 to
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  2016. He played for the Hokies he
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  wasn't all-acc offensive lineman currently he is the co-host of
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  the locker room podcast with felly with fellow hokey, alumni
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  Luther Maddie, live from Charlotte, North Carolina, the
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  Queen City, we got John McLaughlin John.
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  John, how are you man doing? Well, bear.
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  Got to be here. Like you said, absolutely.
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  Any time we get a chance to get alignment on here.
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  We take that Advantage. Welcome back.
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  Appreciate you jumping on with us.
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  It's going to be a big night tonight.
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  All right. So the next bait on this list
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  needs no introduction. He's coming to us from the 757.
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  He's been holding it down since 2013, as the host of Don.
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  V, Fridays, the legend himself Davi Hey, how y'all doing?
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  I'm Beatles. I nobody man.
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  I'm just a fan bro. I'm just happy to be here.
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  You've been doing it? Doing it big for a while man, we
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  appreciate you jumping on. We're looking forward to
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  chatting up with you. Oh, thanks for having me.
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  Appreciate you coming Vito. Alright, next man, we got coming
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  on here. He is the co-host of the victory
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  laughs podcast, and on the weekends, he's running the
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  weekend and the overtime hosted 1067, a fan in d.c.
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  See, he is live and the live here in the western of our VA,
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  where he used to be the producer for radio 910 show, mr.
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  Danny Nokes, Danny, how you doing tonight, man?
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  What's going on gentlemen? Thanks for having me.
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  Appreciate you being here. Great to be among us great panel
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  at these great panelists. There's a lot of great people
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  here today so I appreciate y'all include me.
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  Not a problem. Glad to have you on, appreciate
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  you jumping on with this is going to be a good time.
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  We got we got a couple more here.
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  We're going to move next to. We got we got a couple guys that
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  are, you know, sons of Saturday Affiliates here, the first one
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  up, you could hear this man on the Hokie hangover sons of
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  Saturday hoop pod, basketball Conference football podcast.
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  You can catch him breaking news for SI and of late dropping.
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  New dad picks on the socials from all over the state of
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  Virginia Mike McDaniel. What's going on guys?
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  Thanks for having me on my guy, you doing?
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  And I did you change a diaper right before you hopped on?
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  Not right before, but it's called a half hour before.
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  There we go, it was in the ballpark.
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  It was in the vicinity. It was in the vicinity.
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  We know how that goes man. Mike, we appreciate you joining
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  us here tonight. I think you got me all right,
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  one more person. Next panelist he's checking in
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  from the West Coast in sunny and he's saying hot Ela, which I
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  know that's that's unusual for them out.
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  There he is. The co-founder and one third of
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  the sons of Saturday podcast, a preseason trailer.
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  May even if y'all hadn't seen what he dropped a couple weeks
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  ago that it was tight. I loved it.
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  Also a guy who's got some connections back to Halifax
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  County for me and mr. Siegel here, Grayson wimbush.
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  How you doing tonight, man? What's going on gentlemen?
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  How we doing? Thank you for having me in the
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  building. I'm very, very excited about
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  this. Yeah, we appreciate you jumping
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  on. I'm looking forward to it.
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  I know you're out there in Sunny La.
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  I'm surprised that you're hotter than us.
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  I know we got some we got some 80 mid-80s temps coming up next
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  week and you guys are probably out there blazing spray and it's
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  a dry heat back on the East Coast.
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  L got the humidity we don't have here is a hundred percent on
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  that Grace and I think it was 90 in like a 10-6 index here in
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  Richmond today. Walk outside storage sweating
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  before you take three steps. So Absolutely, you know me, I'm
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  sweating. I'm sweating standing still,
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  it's 73. So if it's humid Ron you see you
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  sweat in the wintertime and, you know, that not.
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  All right. So guys, we really appreciate
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  you all joining us tonight. A lot of great voices, a lot of
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  great voices. A lot of good opinions.
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  Got a lot of good thoughts, lot of good background.
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  So before we jump on, it was just going to say a couple
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  things for the live listeners tonight.
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  If you guys have any questions or comments for this panel, I'll
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  let us know if your questions are for a specific panelist.
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  Please specify that panelists so we can get them to question.
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  So we might throw someone here in real time.
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  Some of you guys did respond yesterday to a tweet.
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  Brian put out. We really appreciate that.
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  Now one other thing kind of already talked about it with the
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  guys here. Big thank you to all of again
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  and to all your listeners joining us tonight.
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  A lot of fun going to happen but we're going to start off with is
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  we're going to give everybody. One question.
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  Y'all know we gave you all those earlier just you know I don't
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  like I don't like you know ambushing anybody but for the
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  other guys kind of we mentioned before if y'all have something
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  y'all want to say feel free to piggyback.
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  If you've got a different Viewpoint let us know and we'll
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  do it. So Brian, what we got up first?
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  All right, so we're going to let our Elder Statesman, Dwight Vic
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  lead off tonight. First question for him, since
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  coach Pride was hired, you've had a chance to talk with him.
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  A few times. Is there a standout intangible
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  factor for Success that you think Brent pry brings to the
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  table? That might help the team this
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  year? Oh yeah, that's you guys can
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  hear me, right? Yeah, we got you.
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  We got you on Glee. That's a great question.
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  You know, I, you know, I I know coach prior but seeing him in
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  this role being back in Blacksburg and talking to him
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  and talk to me the spring game. I was there several weeks after
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  the spring game? They were doing some install
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  right before the season kicked off text him when he first got
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  the job the biggest difference. I see and just him being here in
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  six months is that he's invested That he cares.
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  I know that's like a simplistic answer but at the end of the day
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  I think you could tell and just talking to him and talking to
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  some guys up here in the DMV where I live Northern Virginia
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  Maryland d.c. kids. I know being recruited.
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  They just know what's a different energy and you could
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  just tell like he's really invested in Virginia Tech.
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  It's not you know a midpoint stopping ground like he is
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  really trying to put a foothold in Virginia throughout the
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  Commonwealth but also he's really connecting to the alumni
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  like the guys like me and McLaughlin and And all the guys
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  from the 90s, the 80s and 70s, and the 2000s.
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  And I think in regards this season, I think when you got
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  guys like Eddie Royal coming back, you know, I'll be up there
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  probably next week and a lot of guys are coming back just to
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  come and watch practices. There's a connection there where
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  the last five years, there was a disconnect between what the
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  expectations for Virginia. Tech football should be and what
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  the previous regime had. And I don't think those guys.
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  I said this on down V space before Before I don't think the
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  current players or the guy that just recently left, understood
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  what it meant to be a Hokie Football player.
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  I think it was just, they were competing wearing the colors and
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  uniform, but I think the guys there now, specifically pride
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  and his staff, from what I see, they understand what it means
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  and what they are supposed to be doing.
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  Like he just genuinely cares about the program.
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  I'm last point. When I was there for the spring
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  game, I talked to him, you know, we chopped it up.
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  He wanted to take a picture of my wife.
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  Talk to every form of play that came through when we had the
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  field house or actually endorse getting some barbecue.
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  He's just talking and he just you can just tell it's not like
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  fake. It's not manufactured height.
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  Like he really has a plan. You could just tell that the
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  players are bonded to it, you know, as much as I love the
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  former players, we're not playing no more.
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  The current guys stay there right there rocking with them.
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  And I think you can just see the energy when they practice and I
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  talked to a few guys that are on the team now, and they were
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  talking about, this is the hardest they've ever worked
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  since they've been in touch. So I love hearing that.
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  Yeah, it sounds like that emphasis on that competition,
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  that competitiveness and practiced.
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  I think that's the big thing and getting back to that that that
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  culture that Virginia Tech built.
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  You know, it started started with you know the guys before
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  you you kind of built on that and then obviously the 2000s I
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  got taken to a different level there.
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  So getting that culture back and understanding that you said what
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  it means to be a hokie. I think that's going to be big
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  for this year, fresh out. Absolutely.
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  All right, so let's flip it over.
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  And let's take a look at what's going on inside this Camp, heard
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  about the competition and stuff. So I'm going to flip it over to
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  David Cunningham David, you know you've had some up close look at
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  the camp practices since last week, you know, some some views
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  on Wednesday and Friday other than quarterback, because we all
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  want to know, is it going to be Grant?
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  Wells are going to be Jason Brown under center.
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  It's 7:30 down at ODU, what other key position battles.
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  Do you have your eyes on? In about to get your first look
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  at week 2 tomorrow and start speaking with people.
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  Yeah, I well, first of all, I think Grant Wells.
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  I think most people know that Grant Wells is kind of leading
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  candidate right now on the coaching staff is kind of not
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  said that directly but they've alluded to it.
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  But as far as other position battles go but one of the things
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  I've said multiple times, whether it's on the text,
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  sideline podcast, or written articles, or set it on the
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  radio, is that text starting, 22 on both.
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  Sides of the ball is pretty solid but it's the depth.
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  It's the young guys that debt that's really where the question
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  marks lie I think wide receiver Caleb Smith, he's proven Gaiden
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  blue transferred from Temple. We kind of know what he's going
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  to bring to the table but do on Lofton genuine Jones downright
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  that kind of that group of guys, I'm really curious to see who
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  kind of steps up as wide receiver number 3, number 4,
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  Even some young guys like freshman Tucker Holloway you
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  know, he was rapping with the twos last week in practice.
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  I think that position group, it can't just be two guys the
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  entire season and as on the other side of the ball, I think
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  at Sam linebacker. That's a new position for Brent
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  pry. And this defensive scheme count
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  to Jenkins Jr, Walker, and Keely, Lawson role working
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  there. And it seems like can't Jenkins
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  has the edge, but these are three guys who have never played
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  the position. Before so how that position
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  unfolds kind of what Brett prai is looking for.
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  And Chris Marv, the defensive coordinator what they're looking
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  for in that position. I think those are the two main
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  main position battles. So to speak.
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  I'm keeping my eye on. Yeah, and it makes a lot of
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  sense. You talk about the 22.
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  I think most of us would say you look around at the 22 like we
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  have good players but it's get into 23 to 35 where it's like
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  this is scary. If you know if somebody goes
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  down we Could be in a, we could definitely be in a lot of
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  trouble. Yeah, especially, especially
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  when you look at the offensive line and defensive line.
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  I think that's kind of defensive line, is a little bit more depth
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  but but especially on the offensive line.
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  It's a lot of a lot of guys working in the in the too deep
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  with that second and third teams that are, maybe former Walk-Ons
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  or current Walk-Ons. And, you know, when you've only
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  got four or five guys, that upfront that it, that have
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  played before in a ACC game where FPS game period, you know,
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  if There is some injuries. You know, that doesn't really
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  bode well for your season. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Depth in the trenches is definitely my biggest fear and
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  I'm just going to kind of Swing this over to to John here, back
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  in the spring. Coach prize said, you know, we
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  kind of got six offensive linemen that he feels like he's
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  ready to go with. And there's a lot of question
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  marks after that, you know, since then, we've got a couple
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  true freshman that have hit the roster.
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  We One that switch from defensive and offensive line.
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  So let me ask you this from your experience and thank you
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  specifically about Joe Rudolph. With this current roster.
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  We're certain coaches in your past, able to push you harder
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  and get more out of you than others and how necessary think
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  that will be for the offense of success this year?
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  Absolutely, you know, I think, I think back to when Jeff bronze
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  was the coach and we were always competing, he would sometimes
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  put a third string and the first string for practice and that
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  first thing Guys looking like, you know, why is he in the first
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  Dream? It's because you slack off
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  yesterday. So I think I think it's got the
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  mentality to man. I think he's all about competing
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  and he you know, he's he's so technical with his coaching and
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  I think we could quit plays and Tall just the way they did in
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  their eyes in the right place. And everything to watch.
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  So that kind of helps the death because I think they're going to
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  be coach. Well I think that that second
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  we're going to be coach, we're going to get in there early but
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  you're like like David said, you know, one man go down.
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  You know, we looking on paper, we're looking you know kind of
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  rough there on death but with put Rudolph we would definitely
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  got to know. Yeah, it's good to hear.
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  I think you know, as you said getting getting guys that are
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  coached up in at least knows what they're doing.
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  How to do it, have the fundamentals in place and that
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  gives you something to build off and I think some of the young
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  guys, particularly thinking Braylon more and Xavier
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  chaplain, I think they definitely have high ceilings
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  even if they weren't necessarily the highest-rated guys coming
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  in. So I think there's some, there's
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  some opportunity there as well. Absolutely, I will flip it over
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  to veto next year. We do, you were one of the first
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  on the fire food, train, several years ago.
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  You've talked into Utah as Banks.
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  You take a look at this roster. This year.
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  Is there anybody? The prior regime is maybe
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  failed. You think it could stand out in
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  2022 or maybe it's a good player and it goes from being a good
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  player to like that boys, gonna get drafted in the first two
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  rounds of make some money. I mean, for real for real, I
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  think everybody that was kind of negatively affected left
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  already. Whether that was to the draft,
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  or to the workforce. I think everybody would just
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  like, yo, we out. Um, so there really was no good.
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  Answer because I mean Dax came back but he's had a full career
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  already. So I would say Malachi Thomas
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  even though he was he didn't, I wouldn't say they failed him
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  last year, it was a freshman, but he was hidden.
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  So now, you know, only only thing I can say is who else have
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  they stashed? That we don't know.
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  It's probably more mr. Eden, because who we saw do got
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  failed. They left for real for real.
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  I like that point man I love the point.
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  You just made about the negativity that you know, some
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  of the guys are gone that had that negative outlook and I
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  laugh about your back to your decks, had a full career.
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  That's just got lucky with covid.
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  He gets one more season. Hey hold on.
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  Hold on bro. Go ahead big Dwight.
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  How long is how long has that been there?
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  This is his fifth year so it's just five years.
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  Yeah. Do it.
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  We heard a indexes name since late 2016, exactly.
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  But due to point, I like what Don said their house, I'm going
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  to give you kudos to that, man, because what you just said about
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  our their players that got stashed that were in dog houses
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  that were good players that the other staff just didn't put on
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  the field. And to be honest, with the white
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  said what we're hearing about, Joe Rudolph.
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  I don't think that's going to happen.
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  I think if you're the best player, I don't care who you
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  are. You're going to To be on the
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  field against Saudi You in September.
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  Yeah, I'm with that. I agree.
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  I think they're going to they're going to find a way to get the
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  best guys out there and I think I think Talent evaluation so far
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  has been better with the new regime, just from what I'm
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  seeing with, how they're playing with depth charts, how they're
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  getting more out of guys that we didn't see really a lot from
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  last year. I don't think you just see that
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  success out the gate. But, you know, we'll see how
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  that turns into anything in 2022.
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  David Cunningham you got somebody.
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  Yeah, I think. Yeah, I mentioned Keshawn King.
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  I think he's a running back who, you know, he's entering his
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  third or fourth season now and we saw a glimpses of him whether
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  it's in the backfield or returning kicks.
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  But, you know, he kind of, I don't want to say he had
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  off-the-field issues, but he, there were things that held him
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  back from playing and he, you know, when Brent Prayin the
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  staff came in Brian admitted, okay?
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  They're going to be guys that leave.
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  They're going to be guys that don't gel with the culture and
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  want to leave. And clearly Keshawn King is a
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  guy and he just one example of a guy who maybe got in that
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  doghouse in air quotes if you want to put it that way who, you
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  know, has an opportunity. Now, you know, we've seen in the
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  two practices. I got to see last week with the
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  rest of the media, no Keyshawn Kings looking explosive.
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  He's No, he's looks like he's developed more and I'm curious
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  with this new culture around the program.
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  How many other guys like that? Who were, maybe held back or
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  didn't receive an opportunity because of something that went
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  on, maybe behind the scenes discipline related, whatever it
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  might be that are getting a new life.
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  So to speak with this new staff, John.
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  Go ahead with what you got to say, man.
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  Yeah, I was gonna say, man, you haven't seen a lot of players
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  leave and that's important. That's important.
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  That a lot of a lot of players have a left for the portal or
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  even when you know, coach when they came in and bhima was gone.
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  We had Charlie Evans left me, I can do left for the drive.
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  You have you haven't seen a lot of that this year, you know?
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  So I think that's important that they're actually saying, hey, we
• 22:10
  want you to stay, you want you to be a part of this thing or at
• 22:12
  least give the spring to try, you know, then, you know, you
• 22:15
  see where you go. I think they've had those
• 22:16
  one-on-one meeting with you player, so that that means a lot
• 22:19
  too. Yeah, it sounded like out the
• 22:22
  gate, the process. He's going to have a lot of
• 22:23
  difficult conversations with folks and, you know, be honest
• 22:26
  with where they, where they're standing now and where they
• 22:28
  potentially see them standing, you know, by the end of spring
• 22:31
  and then by the start of fall weather that is a position
• 22:34
  change. Whether that is focusing more on
• 22:37
  being a depth player, this year versus somebody that's going to
• 22:40
  be in the starting lineup, consistently.
• 22:42
  And once you have those conversations that at least
• 22:44
  gives those players the the ability to make the best
• 22:48
  decision for them. Whether it's It's, you know,
• 22:50
  sticking around and being a part of it or you know, seeing what
• 22:54
  they can do elsewhere. But let's let's put a little
• 22:57
  bit. Danny kick this one over to you.
• 23:00
  You spent the spring game in the booth of Might burn up and I
• 23:03
  assume you get a little time with the team that we can as
• 23:05
  well. What part of this team do?
• 23:07
  You hope has improved the most since you call that game back in
• 23:10
  April, Yeah, that's a, that's a great question, Brian.
• 23:16
  And that was a pretty incredible experience.
• 23:18
  Just sharing the booth with Mike burn up five.
• 23:21
  Everyone has asked about how that has been how it went and
• 23:25
  and just being alongside him. He's just an encyclopedia
• 23:28
  Virginia Tech knowledge, whether it's football or any other
• 23:32
  sport, especially football, know, that man is incredibly
• 23:35
  talented and we are very lucky to have him in Blacksburg but in
• 23:39
  the production meeting that we had before that game but the day
• 23:42
  before I we definitely I only got the chance to talk to Brent
• 23:46
  fry and there's there were a lot of takeaways from that sum over
• 23:50
  all things that I thought were interesting you know he's
• 23:53
  obviously a defensive guy that came over from Penn State and he
• 23:56
  believes that a strong defense in this conference will take you
• 24:00
  as far as that you need to go. You know you look at all the
• 24:03
  success that it seemed like Clemson is had recently and
• 24:05
  although they're incredibly talented on both sides of the
• 24:07
  ball they've been mostly predicated on playing defense
• 24:11
  with with the exception of DeShaun Watson.
• 24:14
  That's, you know, they've had a Litany of incredibly talented
• 24:18
  defensive players. So when you play on the coastal
• 24:21
  where it's even more wide open, it becomes even more important.
• 24:25
  I think to have a good defense and I think that is there you
• 24:29
  have him bringing in his scheme and his players will come as he
• 24:33
  gets to recruit. And there's obviously a palpable
• 24:37
  hype surrounding this Virginia Tech program that we haven't
• 24:40
  seen for a very long time that I think that's going to help them.
• 24:43
  But when it comes to the exact answer to your question, Brian,
• 24:47
  it kind of goes back to the theme of what we've all been
• 24:51
  talking about so far in this podcast and it said, they need
• 24:55
  some help on both the offensive and the defensive line has an
• 24:57
  improvement on both the offensive and the defensive
• 25:00
  line. What I remember most about that
• 25:02
  game is Jason Brown had absolutely no time to do
• 25:05
  anything. I mean he was running for his
• 25:08
  life every time he took a snap every time he took a snap I
• 25:12
  swear I don't remember a snap where he was Not under some sort
• 25:15
  of pressure and to me he wasn't going up or he didn't have the
• 25:19
  number one offensive line in front of him.
• 25:23
  So what that tells me is that they have some depth issues
• 25:25
  right there, but if you flip it over and look at what Grant
• 25:29
  Wells and you know everyone remembers the touchdown
• 25:32
  see-through over the top and those were impressive but you
• 25:36
  know, you'd like to see the defensive line, get some
• 25:38
  pressure there as well. So I'd like to see them, you
• 25:41
  know, in the trenches improve on both sides of the ball.
• 25:44
  And I think that they have the coaching staff to do that.
• 25:47
  And and the last thing that I'll say to is just an overall take
• 25:49
  away from from being among that staff for that spring game
• 25:53
  weekend is that Brent pry, is very Reliant right now on his
• 25:57
  offensive coordinator. Tyler Bowen to obviously run the
• 26:00
  offense and help get things set there, but you know, Brent is
• 26:04
  still figuring out how to, you know, the same way he sees
• 26:09
  defense as a defensive coordinator, he wants to see it
• 26:12
  on the offensive side of the ball, he To figure out how to
• 26:15
  make other defensive coordinators squirm and how to
• 26:18
  figure out how to use this Personnel that they had to their
• 26:22
  advantage. So they're the foundation of a
• 26:27
  lot of success that we've seen this Virginia Tech program have
• 26:31
  that. We're used to seeing where
• 26:32
  they're regularly competing for ACC championships.
• 26:34
  That Foundation is being built. The bricks are being laid right
• 26:37
  now. It's just going to be about
• 26:39
  staying healthy this season. Can you get consistent play on
• 26:43
  in the trenches? Both offense and defense side in
• 26:45
  line, and then, you know, over time can you get those recruits
• 26:48
  in? I love that you said it's the
• 26:52
  play of those two lines Danny because I think we have some
• 26:54
  good players that I think you look at Silas.
• 26:57
  You look at Johnny, Jordan. You look at, you know, more on
• 27:00
  the right side of the Guard there.
• 27:02
  You look at some of the guys on the we have good players, it's
• 27:04
  just nothing behind it. So that health is important
• 27:07
  because if you tell me and this thing going to happen for the
• 27:10
  guys that played in Here collegiately brine, Ian, the
• 27:14
  white specifically point out the y'all, y'all know, playing the
• 27:17
  line and playing against it. Blind people are gonna get hurt
• 27:21
  whether it's a Nick in your out a couple weeks, you miss a
• 27:24
  practice and God forbid, you know, a guy out 6-8 weeks where
• 27:28
  it's that happens, that's going to be, you know, catastrophe or
• 27:32
  a catastrophic for this team. So, you know, I hope we can
• 27:37
  avoid that because I think we've got good enough players to
• 27:39
  compete with everybody on the schedule this year.
• 27:42
  The are I'll piggyback on that just real quick before I let you
• 27:45
  get into the next one. But I'll just say and I know, I
• 27:48
  know Johnny talked about a little bit earlier.
• 27:49
  Earlier, but I think that we're struggling depth wise, but I
• 27:54
  feel like with with some of these new coaches particularly
• 27:56
  Rudolph route since we're talking in the trenches, I feel
• 27:59
  like our Baseline is at least raised a little bit because you
• 28:02
  are going to have a little bit better foundation and those guys
• 28:07
  that are further down the depth chart to maybe lean back on.
• 28:10
  So yeah you might not have guys with a lot of experience guys
• 28:14
  with this, that the third, but you will have guys that are for
• 28:17
  their youth and inexperience are still More prepared probably at
• 28:21
  Baseline than what we've seen recently you know, and also to
• 28:24
  and also to man you don't get experience.
• 28:26
  You get experience by playing and then on top of it if you get
• 28:29
  to the last three years one of the biggest issues with
• 28:32
  offensive line. Wasn't you have some yes really
• 28:35
  great players individually but many times in game situations
• 28:40
  short, yardage critical plays Red Zone.
• 28:43
  You had a lot of illegal man, downfield, priests and
• 28:46
  penalties. Lack of focus.
• 28:48
  I think we're Rudolph. They're like, When Grounds was
• 28:50
  there with John and guys, like JB G to coach me, you're going
• 28:55
  to have guys in too deep. They go know what they're going
• 28:57
  to do. I think many times in previous
• 29:00
  Seasons, our offense was not coach where when it came to the
• 29:03
  trenches. There was a lot of mistakes made
• 29:05
  in RPO situations. And guys, did not know what they
• 29:08
  were doing. Like if a guy went out another
• 29:11
  guy came in and just did not know.
• 29:13
  It wasn't even about physical play, it was like lack of
• 29:15
  understanding scheme and concept.
• 29:19
  Yeah I agree with that. I think as you said Rudolph's
• 29:21
  going to help help raise that Baseline.
• 29:23
  So that's going to definitely help Downstream even if you
• 29:26
  don't have again that game experience in aren't necessarily
• 29:30
  the most highly rated guy. You're on that side of the ball
• 29:34
  Curtis I'ma let you kick the next move over to Mike.
• 29:36
  Oh yeah so mining Daniel you're constantly talking Hokies.
• 29:41
  I mean everywhere probably in your hometown as much as you do
• 29:45
  with podcast but if all these things you are in your industry.
• 29:49
  Three fill in the blank on this. And I'm almost going to
• 29:53
  piggyback and say, you can't say quarterback because that ain't
• 29:56
  fair. But I'll, but I'll but I, but I
• 29:58
  won't. I won't hold it against you.
• 29:59
  If blank has a great season, the hook you will exceed X, the
• 30:04
  Hokies will exceed expectations in 2022.
• 30:07
  I mean it's the obvious answer it is quarterback.
• 30:10
  It is a ramp what Virginia Tech has not had a stable quarterback
• 30:20
  room in years. Like you got your rotten 2016
• 30:24
  went really well. You had basically a full year of
• 30:27
  Josh Jackson and then he gets hurt in 2018 and since then it
• 30:30
  has been chaos, the wrong quarterback start of the 2019
• 30:34
  season. Then by the time you handed over
• 30:35
  the hooker, he wins, whatever was six 07:07 out of 80 had 13
• 30:39
  touchdowns to two, picks threw for over 1,500 yards, and then
• 30:43
  20 and his staff. Make him compete for the
• 30:45
  starting quarterback job again in 2020.
• 30:49
  That didn't make any sense, right?
• 30:51
  And The rumors were that if you know Burmeister didn't break his
• 30:57
  foot, you know, later in the season didn't have covid, you
• 31:01
  know, he might have had more of a hand early in the year and
• 31:04
  starting quarterback job like that should never have happened.
• 31:07
  You see what hookers doing now at Tennessee.
• 31:10
  Obviously he would never have done that at Virginia Tech
• 31:12
  because he wasn't getting the coaching days.
• 31:14
  Now being at Tennessee with High people and the way that he
• 31:16
  Grooms quarterbacks, it just was not getting that in Blacksburg.
• 31:20
  But yeah, it is the quarterback position we Wells because
• 31:23
  Virginia Tech hasn't had stability at that position in a
• 31:26
  long time. It's obvious like when the
• 31:29
  offense really started to drop off really started to Creator
• 31:32
  under Fuente and Cornell said, it's when they stop developing
• 31:36
  quarterbacks. After Josh Jackson, it was kind
• 31:39
  of a disaster short of that six or seven game stretch of Hendon
• 31:42
  hooker. So it's got to be Wells.
• 31:44
  Tyler Bowen has got to get him comfortable early on the one
• 31:49
  difference, I think between what prize What Fuente is inheriting
• 31:54
  is that prize got his work, cut out for him a lot more than 20
• 31:59
  did. There was still a lot of Talent
• 32:01
  on that 2016 roster and not to say that their brother John on
• 32:06
  this protein attack roster. But it is not.
• 32:08
  It is not the same in 2022. That was in 2016.
• 32:11
  When point I took over, I think we can all acknowledge that.
• 32:15
  Yeah it's crazy to see that you know, one point, we had three
• 32:20
  former four star quarterbacks on this roster and couldn't seem to
• 32:26
  figure out what to do with any of them.
• 32:30
  It's the ineptitude that that created.
• 32:34
  I feel like this was the downfall and I mean, you can
• 32:36
  point fingers, if when taking four fingers at corn and
• 32:39
  truthfully, the The fault lies with both of them in some ways
• 32:44
  because, you know, at some point, if something's not
• 32:46
  working, you gotta, you gotta move on and do something
• 32:48
  different. You can't just come in, they had
• 32:50
  to go there to go, get a quarterback from Kansas because
• 32:53
  it couldn't figure out which four star that was already there
• 32:55
  to start with. I mean, it was a disaster.
• 32:58
  So, and Willis Willis had his moments, but it was pretty clear
• 33:02
  how the offense was clicking. When hooker came into that Miami
• 33:05
  game. There was there was a clear
• 33:07
  difference in the offense and instead of kind of riding with
• 33:09
  that one tank or Nelson going in, 20/20 kind of messed around
• 33:13
  with it, and it should never have happened. 100% on that
• 33:18
  should have been an inside job from Jump Street because of what
• 33:21
  he had done at the end of the year and even the two losses
• 33:24
  that he had legitimately where the best game of quarterbacks
• 33:28
  ever had at UVA and then that bowl game.
• 33:32
  Well we all know how that bowl game when because that was some
• 33:35
  wild shit beforehand, that I was the best that was the best game
• 33:39
  of quarterback had a Kentucky. Apparently that day.
• 33:41
  Yeah, that's running. Running quarterbacks all the
• 33:47
  time and but you know, I knew you were going to say
• 33:50
  quarterback. I knew you were but I think it's
• 33:56
  I think someone like Malachi Thomas.
• 34:00
  All right, if you tell me Malachi Thomas breaks, a
• 34:02
  thousand yards this year, I think that means overall a few
• 34:06
  things. A, the offensive line stay
• 34:08
  healthy. That meant probably Grant
• 34:10
  played. Well I think you could choose a
• 34:12
  few different people but if you tell me Grant Wells goes out and
• 34:15
  you know, Please good. Yeah, but you know, I'm always
• 34:21
  one of these challenges like is there anybody else?
• 34:23
  You want to talk about this because quarterbacks always
• 34:26
  answer if you've got an elite quarterback, a 6-1 team can
• 34:30
  become a nine or ten. One team in a cornerback
• 34:32
  definitely sloughs it out. I mean it has Grayson, just
• 34:35
  brought up, you know, Lynn Bowden there.
• 34:36
  I mean that that's a team that yeah.
• 34:39
  Good on the defensive side of the ball but the offense was
• 34:42
  pretty much run and Bowden and nothing else at that point.
• 34:45
  But what I saw Thought I saw David Hill posted a like if
• 34:49
  bramwell's just continues to production that he had his first
• 34:51
  couple of years at Marshall that he would have the best
• 34:53
  production at the quarterback position, Virginia Tech in like
• 34:56
  two decades. So why don't we just do that?
• 34:58
  Yeah, I'll take I'll be especially if we if we can keep
• 35:01
  interceptions to 10 or under. Oh yeah let's roll with it.
• 35:06
  Roll with it. I'm going to kick it over to
• 35:08
  Grace in here. You recently got to sit down
• 35:10
  with the man himself Brent pry and he said, you know, he said
• 35:13
  he's gonna be calling the defense On this fall at least
• 35:19
  through 2022 will see if that continues going forward.
• 35:23
  But what has you more excited? This year prize attacking Bud,
• 35:28
  Foster inspired defense or Bowen Smash Mouth spread offense.
• 35:34
  Well first I'll say this, I'm excited about the defense
• 35:37
  because a pride will be calling it and we just have so much
• 35:40
  experience on the defense you have to bail cows in fifth year,
• 35:45
  seniors Dax hollifield and shh. Sorry Connor.
• 35:48
  So I mean they're going to know what's going on.
• 35:50
  They're going to be flying around out there.
• 35:52
  A lot of experience across the board, but I mean, it's got to
• 35:56
  be the offense. I mean we've been through at the
• 35:58
  last five years, young women are like, it's insane.
• 36:02
  So I mean, you know, David Cunningham, he talked about, is
• 36:05
  it going to be Grant? Well, this is going to be Jason
• 36:07
  Brown. Are we going to see Connor,
• 36:09
  blumberg taking some reps. He's still listed as a QB on the
• 36:12
  depth chart also an athlete Sue so I don't know, but I You with
• 36:17
  David, I think it's going to be Grant Wells, you know, I think
• 36:21
  you all would agree with this sentiment.
• 36:23
  If the offense isn't contributing to us winning
• 36:26
  football games, I don't care what kind of numbers.
• 36:29
  They're putting up the previous regime put up numbers and that
• 36:33
  became a scapegoat there at the end, but they didn't put up a
• 36:37
  lot of Victories and that's at the end of the day, that's what
• 36:40
  matters, you know. I think I'm really excited about
• 36:44
  Caleb Smith. He's the Bell cow on The
• 36:47
  offense, he is the guy. You see it in all the videos,
• 36:49
  like, on social media and everything.
• 36:52
  He's the leader. He's the guy that the younger
• 36:54
  guys look up to, I guess, I have to wonder like, who steps up.
• 36:59
  I think Duane Lofton is going to have a breakout season.
• 37:02
  I think Malachi Thomas can be dangerous.
• 37:05
  It'll be interesting to see how we incorporate Keshawn King
• 37:08
  again chance black Kenji. Christian two new guys on the
• 37:13
  Block and the running back room. I think another guy who has the
• 37:16
  Essential to have a breakout season is Nick Gallo at tight
• 37:20
  end. There's a lot of talk about him
• 37:22
  being very dangerous this season.
• 37:24
  Apparently, he's improved a lot in Camp.
• 37:28
  While we have some young guys on the offensive line.
• 37:30
  You have, Johnny, Jordan, you have stylist in Z and the locker
• 37:33
  room at the end, you know, I don't know, I don't know what to
• 37:38
  expect and that's why I'm excited about it.
• 37:40
  I have no expectations going into the season, so we'll see.
• 37:44
  Man. Let's go.
• 37:45
  I'm rooting for Tyler. Bowen can't be worse than what
• 37:48
  we had please. I'm with you because I feel like
• 37:51
  we you know we somewhat know like prize a known quantity,
• 37:55
  we've seen a lot of tape from Penn State stuff from
• 37:59
  Vanderbilt, he's the head guy, he's calling the defense still.
• 38:03
  So we've got a little bit more of a point of focus where we can
• 38:06
  look back and bring some tangible things out.
• 38:09
  But there's a lot of things that we can't really quantify with
• 38:12
  Boeing yet and I think that not knowing that also Kind of feeds
• 38:17
  that excitement. Right?
• 38:18
  So I feel like the offense, you know, aside from all the other
• 38:21
  things with how the offense has been a roller coaster the last
• 38:26
  six years, just that kind of unknown factor to a point of
• 38:30
  what we're going to get with this offense and I'm looking
• 38:32
  forward to that and Dwight, you got some things to say about
• 38:36
  leadership. Go ahead and You know, know when
• 38:43
  our Grayson was talking to just took me back to when I heard
• 38:47
  Caleb on Don Visa podcast and I don t Fridays and it was really
• 38:53
  refreshing and inside the noodle.
• 38:55
  TTP Sergeant EP muffled. I apologize shutout to tell him
• 38:59
  but it was really, really insightful because it was stuff.
• 39:04
  I knew like just being a former player, you could just tell,
• 39:07
  like, it was, it was just one of those things where he was
• 39:09
  speaking with conviction. But he was also provide Insight
• 39:11
  because Cuz even though Grayson is hundreds in, right?
• 39:14
  The offense put up numbers. They hear that they couldn't do.
• 39:18
  They couldn't get extra work in when the when the field was
• 39:21
  closed and and not being able to watch film after practice stuff
• 39:25
  that I did back in the late 90s, you know, like just and also to
• 39:30
  the leadership like, that's, I agree.
• 39:32
  I agree with Grayson like race and talking about like,
• 39:35
  leadership with him. I think that's another thing
• 39:37
  that we've been missing, which I feel like is there this year.
• 39:41
  Well, you have Stabs leaders. I think if you look at any
• 39:43
  Virginia Tech Vicki, so ACC Championship team, we even teams
• 39:47
  that won, eight nine, ten games, there were established leaders
• 39:50
  on the team, you can see it. When you watch the game on
• 39:52
  television, you saw guys talking even guys, like the answer Hall
• 39:57
  when he, you know, called out Miami in 2003 when they had 130
• 40:00
  something plus games and he said, I think we're better.
• 40:02
  I don't think Miami is all that he took a stand.
• 40:05
  I don't think you really had a lot of leaders in recent years,
• 40:09
  and I think that was more so because of the culture in
• 40:10
  Blacksburg because I Really think anyone felt comfortable
• 40:14
  taking that kind of stand and that they did it became
• 40:17
  divisive, what a team wasn't close and I just I think Grayson
• 40:20
  is 107 spot-on with Smith being one of the established leaders
• 40:23
  and I think those kind of things the one of those characteristics
• 40:26
  you look back on the season. When they went regardless of
• 40:29
  what they win, if they have a good season, you say oh yeah
• 40:32
  they had this player. He was really good but he was
• 40:34
  also a leader and, you know, and I just think that was a, that
• 40:37
  was a great Point by Grayson. Yeah, if I may, but in here, you
• 40:43
  know, speaking with Caleb Smith down in Charlotte ACC kickoff
• 40:46
  was, was really eye-opening and this was all stuff.
• 40:51
  Caleb, kind of just let loose kind of the same stuff he said
• 40:53
  on the podcast. He told me about how you know
• 40:58
  his former position coach told them at the end of the season in
• 41:03
  December last year, he suggested that he transferred to an FCS
• 41:06
  school or division to school like that's you know, The
• 41:10
  culture I'll eat, especially on the offensive side of the ball,
• 41:14
  just didn't seem to be there, you know?
• 41:17
  He he told me that he and Braxton Burmeister had plenty
• 41:22
  locker room conversations. Plenty hard to you know, many
• 41:24
  heart-to-hearts where they were both just like, it's not in our
• 41:28
  hands, there's nothing we can do about it and I know you Caleb's,
• 41:32
  a guy who's a former walk-on, you know, he's been in the
• 41:35
  program for a long time. He had to earn his keep so to
• 41:38
  speak, you got Silas Gene. Hands and Johnny Jordan even
• 41:42
  he's a transfer but he's played college football for a really
• 41:45
  long time. Don't need that's not even, you
• 41:48
  know, without mentioning Drake Julius and McDowell at tight end
• 41:51
  to fifth or sixth year guys. There are a lot of veterans in
• 41:56
  this room and I think from my understanding, especially on the
• 42:01
  offensive side of the ball, got a little bit out of hand where
• 42:05
  guys didn't necessarily have an opportunity to kind of be
• 42:08
  themself. And A leader and step up.
• 42:11
  It was more, I don't know if drill sergeant style is the way
• 42:16
  to describe it, but kind of hey, you're going to do this and if
• 42:19
  you don't do this, you're you're getting punished and you know,
• 42:22
  coaches can kind of lead their programs, you know, in various
• 42:27
  Styles but it clearly did not work out, you know, especially
• 42:31
  in the latter stages. So to talk with Caleb Smith to
• 42:34
  talk with Silas jeans, even decks.
• 42:36
  I've y'all on the defense side of the ball and to get a sense
• 42:38
  of, you know, I think it was Silas who told me that he's
• 42:43
  having fun, they're enjoying practice.
• 42:46
  They can be themself, they don't, you know, Caleb Smith
• 42:50
  told me that he because he got the unsportsmanlike conduct
• 42:53
  penalty for excessive celebration in the spring game
• 42:56
  out. If you guys remember that and he
• 42:58
  told me, he told me that a kind of just all came out because the
• 43:02
  old staff didn't let him celebrate.
• 43:04
  If they scored during practice, just just simple things where,
• 43:08
  you know, they can Now, be themself and leaders can kind of
• 43:13
  emerge naturally if that makes sense, that makes 100, that
• 43:18
  makes 100% sense. Because in the situations like
• 43:22
  this, the coordinators and everything or they're right, the
• 43:26
  guys are played they're there and they're supposed to help you
• 43:28
  learn to lead and eventually the range of to be taken to White.
• 43:32
  You were a Captain John, you guys played your crucial part of
• 43:35
  an offensive line. You've got to have those leaders
• 43:39
  in the locker room. You've got to have the guys that
• 43:41
  take the reins right in from the way.
• 43:43
  Everything is sounding what we've been hearing the last few
• 43:46
  weeks special on the offensive side of the ball.
• 43:48
  Nobody wanted to take the range for fear and you can't play
• 43:52
  football that way. But you can't like you can't
• 43:55
  play football. I'm I don't want to, I don't
• 43:57
  want to celebrate and, you know, run laps.
• 44:00
  You know that's that's something.
• 44:02
  You know, it's like doing something at work is like man.
• 44:05
  I'm not getting on that project. Getting because it's a craft
• 44:08
  project. I want to get in trouble.
• 44:10
  Well I'll say this to you can be a hard Old Coach and not you
• 44:13
  know, has silent lunches and banned people from the
• 44:16
  facilities During certain hours and all this other stuff.
• 44:19
  I mean you can be a hard coach. You can push your players you
• 44:24
  know sometimes beyond the limits that they think they can reach
• 44:27
  but but still, you know, not be ridiculous with the things that
• 44:33
  you're putting in place because I don't think anyone's
• 44:35
  benefiting from not Some more film, no ones benefiting from
• 44:39
  not creating camaraderie during meals with their teammates, like
• 44:43
  that, that type of stuff is not not building the team and
• 44:46
  building the culture that you want for to win.
• 44:49
  So that's just my two cents on it, and it's sad that it seems
• 44:53
  like that kind of defeatist attitude, like really fed into
• 44:56
  the offense, especially as the year went on last year's, but a
• 45:01
  B&B. I said that I said that on my
• 45:04
  show when Danny and I one time, when Dorian, Strong got the
• 45:08
  interception on the Friday night game against BC.
• 45:10
  He got it was a key drive, a key stop early in the first quarter,
• 45:14
  anytime a defensive back at Virginia Tech since even before
• 45:17
  the bema are got a pic he was trying to take it to the house.
• 45:20
  Dorian looked to the sideline for certainty.
• 45:25
  He didn't know. He looked for advice, he looked
• 45:27
  and he kind of stumbled. And he got hit, he fumbled the
• 45:30
  ball, subsequently BC, got the ball back and scored.
• 45:33
  That's what I mean about culture, and being assertive and
• 45:36
  knowing what You can and cannot do you know, Rio Whitaker,
• 45:39
  Brandon Flowers, garnell Wiles DeAngelo, Hall, Kam Chancellor,
• 45:44
  so on and so on they didn't have to do that.
• 45:46
  They had 20 in Gray and all those defense the guys coach
• 45:50
  Foster coach towards they gave him the green light to make
• 45:52
  plays. And again, I mean, I just think
• 45:56
  that's why I go back to the culture.
• 45:57
  We have established right now and we're not even really in the
• 45:59
  midst of the yet, we still scratching the surface.
• 46:03
  I think about blacks, you're trying to push the pile instead
• 46:05
  of reaching out for the goal line to for fear of, you know,
• 46:10
  getting punished for a fumble or something like that.
• 46:12
  Just trying to make a play. Hey look, bro, I'm telling
• 46:15
  y'all, look ya'll missing. I'm a which one of y'all said
• 46:16
  the Kentucky game. We lost them in a bowl game when
• 46:19
  the quarterback and on him was running up on this and hit dude.
• 46:22
  Stole one of my players in the face.
• 46:23
  I'm telling you right now look I got a beamer would have he knew
• 46:29
  what was up? There was stuff that happened.
• 46:31
  I can speak on Now when the wrestling team tried us and he
• 46:36
  talked to the team, he said, look, make sure y'all do it just
• 46:39
  don't do it here. You know I'm saying?
• 46:45
  Take it out of the facility but do what you need to do?
• 46:47
  I don't like the players when that happened because I wanted
• 46:51
  to retaliate, but I knew it was one of them things where they
• 46:55
  just couldn't be themselves. It was like, you know, you
• 46:59
  couldn't be a man, you couldn't defend yourself, it was crazy.
• 47:03
  You know. All right, so first of all, this
• 47:08
  little sections, we've rolled we rode off on 50 minutes here.
• 47:12
  I love it. We got a lot more to come, but
• 47:14
  before we take our break, won't ask you fellas.
• 47:17
  This question, come back to Egypt you.
• 47:20
  What three games are the most important to the Hokies this
• 47:24
  season? Don't think on that before we
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  get our panels answers to that tonight, we are going to take a
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  Now back to the episode All right, so before we get y'all's
• 48:02
  answers me and Brian are going to give hours just so we can
• 48:05
  have a jumping off point mr. Siegel, oh, I let you leave sir.
• 48:09
  All right, three most important gains for the Hokies in 2022,
• 48:14
  UVA, Boston, College, UNC. I say that for a couple reasons.
• 48:20
  Number one, I feel like looking at our schedule, those are games
• 48:24
  that we can when we had the potential to win.
• 48:28
  UVA obviously rival. You want to take care of
• 48:31
  business there? I think they've got
• 48:34
  significantly better at least from a talent standpoint offense
• 48:38
  than we do but their defense is still garbage.
• 48:42
  I think I think we still got to a chance to get one there.
• 48:46
  You know, Boston College has some talent in places but they
• 48:49
  lost a lot on the offensive line.
• 48:50
  I think they're still vulnerable and in some areas and UNC still
• 48:54
  has to show me that they're more than just a good recruiting
• 48:57
  class. So until they do that, I'm not
• 49:00
  sold on them either. So I feel like those are three
• 49:03
  games that were probably not favored in but games that are
• 49:06
  winnable on our schedule and that's going to be the
• 49:08
  difference between whether we're, you know, sub 500 or
• 49:13
  looking at a potentially a twin season.
• 49:15
  So that's kind of where we're. I feel like our most important
• 49:18
  there and it's always important to win your conference games and
• 49:21
  take care of business against recruiting Rivals.
• 49:23
  We lost a couple recruiting battles lately to BC we
• 49:26
  obviously recruit directly against UVA.
• 49:28
  Jay and UNC has been across our border way too damn much.
• 49:32
  So that's about three. Alright, moan jump online real
• 49:36
  quick because I got two of them in agreement with them.
• 49:38
  Once for a different reason. Uva's one obviously the momentum
• 49:43
  we're getting in here. Recruiting one in the state
• 49:45
  wise. You want to keep that you wanted
• 49:47
  to keep them an afterthought to the recruits.
• 49:52
  I grew Braun on BC but for a different reason that is going
• 49:55
  to be the first home game under the brim prior as going to be a
• 49:59
  8:00 at night game in Lane it's gonna be on the SEC network
• 50:03
  unfortunately. So you're not going to get
• 50:06
  you're not going to get all the viewers fertile time, boys,
• 50:09
  fertile Jesus. But but think about this, you go
• 50:12
  into that game. The atmosphere is going to be
• 50:14
  electric. I know some of you guys will be
• 50:17
  there. Me and Brian have talked about
• 50:20
  it. Going potentially and driving
• 50:23
  back. I don't know about that will see
• 50:25
  as the time comes but you can you imagine you have the
• 50:28
  electric atmosphere and you beat them?
• 50:31
  Think about the height, Think About Kids on Campus that week,
• 50:34
  my last is going to be the Miami game after the send them, not
• 50:38
  for the sentimental reasons that we're not going to be playing
• 50:40
  them every other year, which I think we all are a little bit
• 50:43
  angry about especially mr. Vic up there in my in the
• 50:46
  corner. But but for this Miami with
• 50:51
  crystal ball. They are getting tons of height
• 50:55
  on the crew. Team Trail, getting the top 20
• 50:57
  ranking, they got to come to the Lane regardless.
• 51:01
  What happens in that game, if we beat them, wonderful, I profiles
• 51:05
  raised if we compete with them with all their talent, I
• 51:09
  profiles raised. So that's my three Grayson.
• 51:15
  Since you were at the back end, we're going to let you go.
• 51:17
  What are your big three games for the He's in 2022.
• 51:22
  Absolutely, I yeah I'm with you Curtis.
• 51:25
  I'll won't say Miami because you said it or stuff Boston College.
• 51:32
  I mean, first game of the prior era 8:00, it's going to be
• 51:36
  packed to the gills. Probably be sold out.
• 51:39
  You know, I hopefully AC C digital networking.
• 51:42
  Get some high definition cameras capture, Enter Sandman because
• 51:45
  they did a terrible job, see game and that game out of my A3.
• 51:51
  I think is the most winnable. Definitely is probably the most
• 51:54
  winnable number two, two weeks later West Virginia.
• 51:58
  I mean that I think is the most important game on our schedule.
• 52:02
  Okay, let's Virginia. Thursday night, Hardware game,
• 52:05
  Black, Diamond way. It ended last year I'm was an
• 52:09
  Abomination and just I mean so many head scratch moments in
• 52:15
  that game. Got to get that trophy back
• 52:18
  Blacksburg is going to be insane.
• 52:20
  And then I'm going to say NC State NC State.
• 52:24
  Yeah, I'm going to say NC State. It's been a while since we play
• 52:28
  down there in Raleigh and they're supposed to be
• 52:31
  relatively good this season. Obviously, you know, if we can
• 52:35
  beat Miami great. But if we can go down there and
• 52:39
  beat NC State beat the pack, that's going to be a huge deal,
• 52:42
  especially in Brent prized first season.
• 52:46
  I like that. I like that.
• 52:47
  Yeah, you know, that's definitely a statement game if
• 52:50
  you can go out and win that one because they are in a lot of
• 52:54
  ways, you know, some people are having them as the favorite to
• 52:57
  win the ACC this year. You know.
• 52:59
  That's a lot of that's going to depend on whether Clemson can
• 53:02
  put Cobble together, more offensive consistency or not
• 53:05
  this year, but they definitely return a lot especially on that
• 53:09
  defense. So that's going to be interested
• 53:11
  in the sea. Let's kick it over to Mike next.
• 53:15
  What's your three? Yeah, my three.
• 53:19
  I mean, I think you guys are with the home opener against PC
• 53:22
  except sets the tone. I mean, the Old Dominion game
• 53:25
  sets the tone, it's a road game, you got to win that game because
• 53:28
  they're ODU, and you can't do what point they did in 2017.
• 53:32
  And that's game that skate literally game 14 pry.
• 53:35
  But you gotta not only look competitive against what I
• 53:39
  think, will be a pretty decent Boston College team, but if you
• 53:41
  can win that home opener, it sets the tone for the entire
• 53:43
  regime, right, gets you off to the right start at home.
• 53:46
  I think that's really important in front of your fans.
• 53:49
  The second one for me is NC State coming off a bye week.
• 53:52
  I think is really significant, so NC State I think going to
• 53:54
  have a really really good team. This year Devon Larry's coming
• 53:57
  back and they should have one of the top two or three defense and
• 54:00
  Conference and you get to see what kind of what kind of staff
• 54:04
  is going to be coming off. A bye in advance scouting,
• 54:07
  right? Because you have two weeks to
• 54:08
  prepare for one of the best games on your schedule, it's
• 54:12
  coming off of the Miami game as well, which I think is the third
• 54:15
  most important game on the schedule.
• 54:18
  It's a really important three-week.
• 54:20
  Stretch their the Miami game the bye week and NC State.
• 54:23
  Because if Virginia Tech is going to lose to Miami like
• 54:27
  let's say, you lose that game which I you know, I think role
• 54:30
  we can all live in, Miami will be favored there in Virginia
• 54:33
  Tech loses that game and then goes into a bye week.
• 54:35
  How do you respond to adversity? Right coming off of one of the
• 54:38
  bigger games on your schedule, rivalry type game.
• 54:41
  How do you respond to adversity, right?
• 54:43
  And going into a bye week and coming out of it, playing a
• 54:46
  really good NC State team that Had the historical stature in
• 54:51
  terms of like the history behind them, right?
• 54:54
  To the West Virginia does in Miami, does it UVA does but
• 54:57
  playing with the Bear Team to your scheduled coming off a bye
• 54:59
  week. That's a really important game
• 55:02
  but I think if your bread pry, you're looking at three most
• 55:04
  important games on the schedule, you know, thinking back to when
• 55:06
  he was a graduate assistant way back in the day, it's West
• 55:09
  Virginia. It's Miami, it's UVA.
• 55:11
  Like those are the three, most important games.
• 55:12
  So he's going to try to have the same competitive and all three
• 55:15
  of those and I think have a successful year one, he's going
• 55:18
  Have to steal one of those, right?
• 55:21
  We point to West Virginia, it's at home, it's Thursday, night.
• 55:24
  West Virginia are in this weird state would Neal Brown.
• 55:27
  We're like, I'm not sure how good they're going to be.
• 55:29
  I'm not sure if that's even going to work out with Neil
• 55:32
  Brown. Text should have beaten them
• 55:34
  last year, great, like in Morgantown if it weren't for.
• 55:38
  I mean they were gifted and interception and then the goal
• 55:40
  line. Play-calling was unwilling to be
• 55:44
  a shit. You got the guys were left on
• 55:49
  the roster who were there for last year's game and they got to
• 55:52
  try to bounce back and get a win there.
• 55:55
  So that is a game that circled that's a game.
• 55:58
  Everybody's got circles, 12, B, huge home game.
• 56:01
  It's one of the early home games on the schedule.
• 56:03
  You got to try to win that one. I want to hear Danny Novak's
• 56:06
  opinion next. Well, I like I like where we're
• 56:12
  going with this gentleman. I think we're going to be all on
• 56:14
  a very similar page when it comes to the three biggest games
• 56:17
  here. Because to me, that's it's very
• 56:19
  simple and it starts with West Virginia.
• 56:21
  I loved what Grayson said about that West Virginia game being
• 56:24
  the biggest game on the schedule.
• 56:25
  This year, I completely agree with that and it has a lot to do
• 56:29
  with what happened last year. In the, several cracks, they had
• 56:32
  inside the 5-yard line with the the game on the line.
• 56:34
  You have the ball close to punching it in and can't do it.
• 56:37
  That has absolutely a lot to do with It.
• 56:40
  But with conference realignment on the horizon and us not
• 56:44
  knowing whether Virginia Tech is going to end up in the Big Ten.
• 56:47
  The SEC a reformed ACC will UVA still be their West Virginia be
• 56:52
  coming over, what we be going to a conference.
• 56:54
  That includes West Virginia. It's a it's a dormant rivalry
• 56:58
  that is just it needs to come back and Virginia Tech is in a
• 57:03
  spot here where they definitely need to go and win that.
• 57:05
  Football game coming up what happened last year.
• 57:07
  So I start with West Virginia. I say I move Over to North
• 57:11
  Carolina after that. Because I don't think they'll
• 57:13
  beat Miami and I don't think they'll be NC State.
• 57:16
  I hope that they will. And I hope that as Mike was
• 57:19
  saying they come out of the bye week prepared to compete against
• 57:22
  one of the better teams in the conference and potentially one
• 57:25
  of the better teams in the country.
• 57:26
  I'm just looking at this more of a from a position of games that
• 57:31
  I think they're better position to go and win.
• 57:34
  And I think that would be North Carolina versus an NC State at
• 57:37
  Miami. So I'll take the Tar Heels.
• 57:39
  I think they have Have another chance to get a solid win
• 57:42
  against a long time. ACC Coastal photo there and then
• 57:46
  at the end of the season, I think UVA is always going to be
• 57:48
  there. It's always going to be the most
• 57:50
  important, get one of. If not the most important game
• 57:53
  on your schedule and with them returning, Brandon Armstrong,
• 57:56
  you know, they're going to be, they're going to be a
• 57:57
  competitive team this year, despite the fact that they're
• 57:59
  also bringing in a brand new head coach with, with Tony
• 58:03
  Elliot. So it's pretty simple.
• 58:05
  West Virginia UNC and UVA, it's a pretty classic lineup.
• 58:11
  That's funny daddy. Uh that was actually my
• 58:13
  original. I talked myself into putting BC
• 58:15
  in there instead of West Virginia so I got no qualms with
• 58:18
  that 3 Vito. What's your 3?
• 58:22
  My three going to be different to everybody else's because I
• 58:25
  think a little different Wofford and listen to me, we bout to put
• 58:31
  50 of them hoes on walk with Barbara, the most important game
• 58:34
  on the season. When today's teens, I don't want
• 58:37
  to make this shit about fun to the whole time swint.
• 58:40
  A said the team wasn't built to blow out Richmond teams like
• 58:45
  Middle Tennessee, State teams, like may know, not mean the
• 58:49
  Rhode Island coming up. Up in the Burgh feeling
• 58:52
  comfortable, right? I want them to make an example
• 58:56
  out of offer, bro. I won't fit them hoes.
• 58:58
  At least I want to see the third stringers in.
• 59:01
  I want to see Walk-Ons in that game snowcat, bro.
• 59:04
  I'm tired of seeing wild for these FCS schools, coming in and
• 59:10
  laying feeling comfortable, bro. That I'm a know everything.
• 59:13
  I need to know why offered game for real for real next game.
• 59:17
  Liberty the fuck? Losing the Liberty?
• 59:21
  No bro, no, Malik Williams gone. We should we should have beat
• 59:26
  them by 50 with Millie Willis, its Liberty.
• 59:29
  That's keep it. A buck man.
• 59:31
  Liberty came in came in the bird, comfortable kick my feet
• 59:34
  up. Shout Out J, Hamm.
• 59:36
  That was some dumb shit. You did, bro, but we shouldn't
• 59:39
  even have been in that position. No Liberty game.
• 59:42
  Two most important game of the season and then game three NC
• 59:46
  State because, um, I think if NC State got a number beside their
• 59:51
  name the boys are wake up and playing them what they NC State
• 59:54
  they ain't known for doing shit for real none.
• 59:58
  So let's say n c-- State don't got a number by their name we
• 1:00:01
  might bullshit 11 to again. Flake so while for Liberty NC
• 1:00:07
  State was no ranking beside their name most important games
• 1:00:10
  this season. There we go.
• 1:00:12
  I like it. I like it.
• 1:00:13
  I like the way you want us to get back to just stomping on
• 1:00:16
  some throats. Being somebody's ass.
• 1:00:19
  If you come in here and you're not, you're not, you're not with
• 1:00:23
  it. We need to, we need to go ahead
• 1:00:24
  and just hang half, a hundred on you and put you back on the bus.
• 1:00:29
  Love it, love it. I John, you got to follow that
• 1:00:32
  up, man. But I think you can do it.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah. So I'm going to change my person
• 1:00:37
  but Imma keep it 100. Do you set the tone for me?
• 1:00:41
  That's the first game of the season.
• 1:00:45
  That's the first game of the season.
• 1:01:28
  Proud of what we are trying to get back and we, you this you
• 1:01:31
  did. They bring all their former
• 1:01:32
  players bag all this stuff. So I'm excited about the
• 1:01:35
  robbery. I'm ready to have this robbery
• 1:01:37
  back because I have to UVA, is to me, Miami is second.
• 1:01:40
  I feel like that's a lot of former players to the, we came
• 1:01:43
  in hate Miami, because they think they better not always
• 1:01:46
  thought they were better know. So, that's a big one for me, new
• 1:01:49
  coaches, you know, trying to get that Foundation back.
• 1:01:52
  And then obviously UVA, we got to be UVA, new coach, but yeah,
• 1:01:57
  that's, that's my free. Right on?
• 1:02:01
  I love that. What I'm hearing.
• 1:02:02
  Last two guys is we want to see what we were.
• 1:02:06
  If you are the Lesser opponent, don't play Down, smash them.
• 1:02:10
  I loved on these Point, bring the Walk-Ons.
• 1:02:13
  It's 56, nothing. See if the walk-on can get to 60
• 1:02:16
  Burger, all right, David Cunningham.
• 1:02:19
  You have to file a both of them up so you have the floor sir?
• 1:02:22
  Yeah it's going to be tough. Know my my first thing is Old
• 1:02:26
  Dominion right off the bat man. Like you know, you guys Guys
• 1:02:30
  might remember my, my, my famous unsportsmanlike conduct picture
• 1:02:34
  from. Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:35
  Well, the meaning game in 2018, that's probably the best thing
• 1:02:37
  that came out of that game, to be honest.
• 1:02:41
  This is a program that last time you were in Norfolk, you got
• 1:02:43
  completely embarrassed, Virginia Tech going to Old Dominion.
• 1:02:49
  Like Jonathan said, you know, the in-state games on the road
• 1:02:53
  at Liberty at Old Dominion. Those are games that the fan
• 1:02:58
  base doesn't really enjoy. You know, you those I think the
• 1:03:02
  majority of the fan base would agree you need to play those
• 1:03:04
  games at home but but Old Dominion.
• 1:03:09
  This is a an opponent Ricky Ronnie's the head coach.
• 1:03:14
  Brent pry. You know was a defensive
• 1:03:16
  coordinator at Penn State when Ricky Ronnie was the offensive
• 1:03:18
  coordinator. The staffs are going to know
• 1:03:21
  each other a lot. You know, a lot of Penn State
• 1:03:23
  blood and between, but I think just in general you're not
• 1:03:26
  playing at home, you're opening up against a much.
• 1:03:30
  Your opponent but that should matter it should be.
• 1:03:34
  This is a game that establishes the culture for the many years
• 1:03:38
  to come in the program and kind of wood what Don and John both
• 1:03:42
  said, you know, against the delawares, the Rhode Island's,
• 1:03:46
  the furman's, the richman's, the Liberties Virginia Tech in the
• 1:03:51
  Justin Fuente era never once except for maybe that Delaware
• 1:03:55
  game in 2016 blue. Any of those guys out, they were
• 1:03:58
  always close games. It took maybe was up by a
• 1:04:02
  touchdown against Rhode Island a half-time in 2019 you know those
• 1:04:06
  are games where you need to get guys development especially now
• 1:04:09
  that guys can play in four games and also red shirt in the same
• 1:04:13
  year, you need to get those guys in the games when he can Old
• 1:04:17
  Dominion, you got to start off strong.
• 1:04:19
  My second game is West Virginia. I think this is the Boston
• 1:04:24
  College game is going to be exciting, but but West Virginian
• 1:04:26
  means more. I'm sure Brent prai is going to
• 1:04:30
  Guys, juice. Ready to go on a Thursday night,
• 1:04:33
  it's going to be what 20, it's going to be 20 something years
• 1:04:38
  to the day that Virginia. Virginia Tech first played on a
• 1:04:43
  Thursday night against West Virginia.
• 1:04:45
  If I believe maybe that maybe that 20 years but it'll be the
• 1:04:48
  anniversary that your plan on Thursday night against West
• 1:04:51
  Virginia. That's what Virginia Tech was
• 1:04:53
  kind of born on and especially with the way everything ended
• 1:04:57
  the last year I think that that's really important and then
• 1:05:00
  I'm Gonna pick a game for my third.
• 1:05:02
  I think it might be the most important game.
• 1:05:03
  Nobody's picked yet and that's pit.
• 1:05:05
  Virginia Tech since since pit join the ACC in 2012, Virginia
• 1:05:12
  Tech is one and four at Pitt. It's no longer Heinz Field but I
• 1:05:17
  think the two best teams on the schedule this year and they are
• 1:05:20
  who I picked as a media member at ACC, meaning days to win a
• 1:05:24
  two divisions pit and NC State pit Returns the most Talent.
• 1:05:30
  I guess returning starters in the coastal.
• 1:05:33
  Miami might have the most talent in North Carolina might, but I
• 1:05:36
  got in our dues, you can develop guys and NC State.
• 1:05:40
  I picked NC State to win the conference.
• 1:05:42
  I just think NC State returns so many guys, but but NC State so
• 1:05:46
  late in the season I think if you're not going to know exactly
• 1:05:49
  what you're going to have, you know what if some guys get
• 1:05:52
  injured, you know, in that Miami game that game so late, I think
• 1:05:57
  it's important to set the tone on the road.
• 1:06:00
  Dat pizza place at Virginia Tech has only won once in recent
• 1:06:03
  memory and pit is a pit is a team that is going to be good.
• 1:06:10
  It's kind of a measuring stick game so to speak pit and NC
• 1:06:15
  State as well. That's kind of like the fourth
• 1:06:17
  fourth team on my list, you know?
• 1:06:19
  And those games where you are playing, good competition in
• 1:06:23
  this first year where Brent price hasn't necessarily got all
• 1:06:27
  his guys in the still kind of establishing the the culture
• 1:06:31
  building it layer by layer, you need to know what you have, and
• 1:06:35
  Old Dominion games going to be really good for the culture.
• 1:06:37
  You'll know the West Virginia game, you know, with with all
• 1:06:41
  the crazy people coming to town and then that pit game on the
• 1:06:44
  road, it's never easy place to win.
• 1:06:47
  I think the fan base will know a lot about this team after that,
• 1:06:51
  Pittsburgh game. When you got Miami, then you got
• 1:06:54
  to open week and then you got to go down to Raleigh.
• 1:06:58
  All right, first of all, the whites upset that I didn't go
• 1:07:01
  last because we cook all. But here's the thing to White,
• 1:07:04
  we know bring your right. No, no, I'm not even the same
• 1:07:12
  kind of responsive now but look at the end of the day, man, like
• 1:07:15
  there's no right? Or wrong answers, our opinions.
• 1:07:17
  But I agree with everybody said, you can't really go wrong with
• 1:07:19
  anything. I just say this like real quick,
• 1:07:22
  I played against the mind be ghosts, so I played against I
• 1:07:24
  was just watching. I got home from work early, they
• 1:07:27
  ran both Both Miami 3430 today. If you were home, they had the
• 1:07:30
  one under neighbor show, the other one.
• 1:07:32
  And I was part of that rivalry with Miami.
• 1:07:35
  I was part of the team that beat them for the first time.
• 1:07:37
  All those household names. I went against them.
• 1:07:40
  So I'm not part of this height train.
• 1:07:43
  I'm not going to make this Miami game, more than what it is.
• 1:07:45
  As far as old, crystal ball. They've always had better
• 1:07:48
  so-called talent, but that's because we don't get the same
• 1:07:52
  respect until we smack him in the face.
• 1:07:54
  So I we betray Louis. I beat it read.
• 1:07:57
  Everybody that can talk about. So I'm not about to see here on
• 1:08:01
  this show, insights Miami because of some dude named Steve
• 1:08:04
  with glasses. That runs 24/7 is telling me my
• 1:08:07
  name is got a great class, y'all miss me with that.
• 1:08:10
  I've been, I've been in five years of battles with them.
• 1:08:12
  I'm not going, are they going to be good?
• 1:08:14
  Yeah, but I mean whatever bro so they're not on my list.
• 1:08:17
  I'm gonna tell you like this. I'ma tell you like oh, do you
• 1:08:20
  Liberty and Walford? That's just, I'm lumping them
• 1:08:22
  together. Like David and Jonathan said, I
• 1:08:25
  don't know how many times during the Fuente area.
• 1:08:27
  We were In scoring points in that first half, when it was
• 1:08:29
  scripted, or we had everything going our way when it was time
• 1:08:32
  to make adjustments or when adversity entered the stadium.
• 1:08:36
  We crumble after that, Greg Stroman Edmonds, brother era,
• 1:08:40
  and the ERA with Bucky and Isaiah Ford.
• 1:08:43
  And cams, and all those guys, when those guys left, we lost a
• 1:08:47
  lot of dogs. We lost McReynolds with all sit
• 1:08:49
  down and say Alexander's, we lost the Trayvon Hills.
• 1:08:51
  We didn't have any dogs consistently that when the game
• 1:08:54
  got tough, we crumble as dombey and Out there said too many
• 1:08:59
  teams like Liberty was real comfortable in Blacksburg.
• 1:09:02
  You know what I'm saying? How many times were you in the
• 1:09:04
  stadium you at home? And you went to the, you know,
• 1:09:07
  your during the old days you went to the bathroom.
• 1:09:10
  You already up 21. A blocked punt and a pick six.
• 1:09:13
  We were struggling with Richmond.
• 1:09:15
  Last year Richmond. I need to see us going to OD.
• 1:09:19
  I was my oldest daughter is going o to you.
• 1:09:21
  She's moving in in two weeks. She chose 0 to you, and I was
• 1:09:25
  down there for orientation. They feeling real good.
• 1:09:27
  Good about big nuts. I can tell you right now I'm
• 1:09:30
  from the 757 and old you. It's feeling real good about
• 1:09:33
  that game. So they're on my list.
• 1:09:36
  I combined them, while for the Liberty, the other game I got,
• 1:09:40
  it's a tie between you and Steve and UVA or getting.
• 1:09:44
  I got to be creative because I'm going last.
• 1:09:46
  And that's only because you recruit the same players and
• 1:09:48
  there's this misconception that UNC since Mack Brown's got near,
• 1:09:53
  they've been killing us and they haven't, you only beat this one
• 1:09:56
  time. You don't say, Even in that time
• 1:09:58
  we've had, we started from my sister and we waited to put in
• 1:10:02
  hinden hooker and he finally came in and we came back and it
• 1:10:05
  was a ball game but waited too late.
• 1:10:07
  Other than that, you only see has not shown anything despite
• 1:10:10
  all these recruits because I'm not one of those guys is going
• 1:10:13
  to tell you. They're killing it like that,
• 1:10:14
  because if you, if you were being honest on the boundary
• 1:10:18
  Corner podcast, a lot of these high-profile recruits.
• 1:10:21
  They've gotten have not panned out and it's been three years.
• 1:10:24
  So don't talk about their killing it.
• 1:10:26
  It's been three years. Ears.
• 1:10:28
  Okay. So UNC and West Virginia to me
• 1:10:32
  or UNC and UVA those. Our culture games where you VA
• 1:10:35
  is in the same boat, we are, they feeling real good?
• 1:10:37
  They feel like Elliot's going to take the state, where our
• 1:10:40
  recruiting them now they got, they got it, they got some guys
• 1:10:43
  on staff, some former player. So I think you continue the
• 1:10:46
  streak against them or contribute continue that mindset
• 1:10:48
  and beating them. That's going to be real helpful
• 1:10:50
  and like keeping that Mystique that that Stranglehold, we have
• 1:10:54
  over there mentally, and then of the other guy, You can throw in
• 1:10:58
  the game. I'm not really going to type of
• 1:10:59
  NC State like that. I think like David say, NC
• 1:11:02
  State. Even that year my cousin went
• 1:11:04
  down there when they were NC State was favored.
• 1:11:07
  The only time they really dog is like that was our first year in
• 1:11:10
  ACC after that talk tough laws to USC SC.
• 1:11:15
  And then we came home and they had defensive line, they all
• 1:11:18
  went to NFL and they they sacked.
• 1:11:20
  Brian Randall like eight times. That was a great new NC State
• 1:11:24
  team. Other than that, typically,
• 1:11:26
  Virginia Tech even during the winter.
• 1:11:27
  They are. And even when Beamer was there,
• 1:11:29
  we play teams like Louisville and NC State.
• 1:11:31
  We tend to kind of rise up to them.
• 1:11:34
  It's the inferior opponents. We struggle against.
• 1:11:36
  So, I mean, that's my list, man. I mean, I don't think anybody I
• 1:11:40
  think all this were great but to me, you can probably hear the
• 1:11:42
  passion of my voice, man. I'm just tired of our brand,
• 1:11:46
  taking a hit, I'm tired. Like I grew up in the era where
• 1:11:50
  Miami always got more hype than us but that reason why I didn't
• 1:11:53
  like that. I didn't want that game to
• 1:11:55
  change because that was always a good measuring stick for Just
• 1:11:58
  like West Virginia when I played them every year was a good
• 1:12:00
  measuring stick because those are culture games because Miami,
• 1:12:04
  again, I think somebody posted on Twitter the day when they
• 1:12:09
  were really, really good. They had your Corey Harris.
• 1:12:12
  They were supposed to be back. They were recognizing the
• 1:12:14
  nation. We were rating them, 11 2009,
• 1:12:16
  smoke them, 30 127. Yep, before the UNC and said it
• 1:12:20
  was raining too hard. Okay, Ryan Williams and Tyrod,
• 1:12:24
  Taylor went crazy. Anyone that knows the game knows
• 1:12:26
  tie rod was better that you Cory.
• 1:12:27
  Harris. But who was getting on the
• 1:12:29
  height? Jacory Harris.
• 1:12:31
  That's just because my auntie will always get the hike.
• 1:12:33
  So, don't let these guys named Steve who you on these sites,
• 1:12:37
  man. What if you couldn't tell
• 1:12:39
  College GameDay a damn thing that week I will never ever
• 1:12:43
  forget it. They were saying Jacory Heisman,
• 1:12:46
  he was gonna come in there. Blow the doors off of us and all
• 1:12:49
  of a sudden the elements. It was a it was like a monsoon.
• 1:12:52
  It was it was a monsoon. Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Out. Oh my gosh.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah that's why my parents are dumb and pouring down rain.
• 1:13:01
  That's what I'm saying, bro. Like you get the right guys in
• 1:13:03
  Blacksburg my dad, getting the gospel, how the springs, and the
• 1:13:05
  right guys in. You get the guys understand, you
• 1:13:09
  know, coach. And when I say go during, I
• 1:13:10
  ain't talking about getting DUIs and getting arrested, I'm
• 1:13:13
  talking about when you were on the field, you know, they're
• 1:13:15
  going to bring it, you know, they don't have a sense of
• 1:13:17
  urgency on every play when you take pride and maybe that
• 1:13:20
  includes the personal foul and maybe that could include some
• 1:13:22
  intimidation. But I made it a day that's when
• 1:13:25
  I watch this. It was very tuck your shirt in.
• 1:13:27
  Crisp Shake hand, pull up, help a guy up.
• 1:13:30
  That's just not my type of football.
• 1:13:32
  I want to get back to take football when we were, you know,
• 1:13:34
  people hated as people forget real quick and I'm gonna shut
• 1:13:37
  up. People forget that in Old floor,
• 1:13:40
  they did not want us in the ACC because we were physical.
• 1:13:45
  They said, I brand of football was to grimy.
• 1:13:48
  You know, I'm saying? So I can't wait to do to you
• 1:13:50
  again because they talking I'm telling you right now guys, and
• 1:13:53
  everybody watching and listening, they talking real
• 1:13:55
  greasy down there. They feel like it's going to be
• 1:13:57
  sweet. I'm just telling y'all that's my
• 1:14:00
  get it. I'm hearing the same thing every
• 1:14:03
  time I'm down there. I'm hearing it Odie, Odie, you
• 1:14:05
  going to put up the real good fight.
• 1:14:08
  We got to go, we got to go out and set the tone and make sure
• 1:14:11
  that that thing is settled by halftime.
• 1:14:14
  Listen, listen, if we lose that game, bro, all this stuff we
• 1:14:17
  doing all your great shows, all this buildup, What changes if
• 1:14:22
  anything ruin the deeper hole? You can't do that game.
• 1:14:26
  You can't lose that game. That's a, that's a recruiting
• 1:14:29
  bed that we are trying to re-establish.
• 1:14:32
  Good relationship with its at their place.
• 1:14:35
  It said, they're in the 757. It's a team that on paper, we
• 1:14:41
  should squash. If you don't go and do it,
• 1:14:42
  that's a problem. 100 pattern on a Ian Brown we got a bunch of
• 1:14:47
  questions here believe it or not so I'll let you start picking
• 1:14:51
  them out. I'm going to pick one here
• 1:14:52
  because we got this texted to us because I buddy Robbie Compton.
• 1:14:57
  He's a coach down at North Wilkesboro, he wanted to ask
• 1:15:00
  basically the offensive linemen and start with John here.
• 1:15:04
  How much did life change going from playing High School
• 1:15:08
  offensive line to power five offensive line as far as the
• 1:15:12
  time to prepare your commitment and level of opponent.
• 1:15:15
  I'll let John John, you lead the white if you want to chip
• 1:15:18
  anything in because you did the same thing. 30 years ago.
• 1:15:21
  Oh man. It was, it was nice day, man.
• 1:15:23
  Not when I got to college the speed of the game.
• 1:15:46
  We are as you get going you get smarter in the game and you
• 1:15:49
  know, their health watching them and honestly getting a different
• 1:15:52
  program helped me a lot. So I would say oh say is like
• 1:15:56
  night and day man. Well, from high school to
• 1:15:58
  college the biggest a big job Why didn't think that on top of
• 1:16:02
  that? Yeah, I'll be quick.
• 1:16:04
  Then, you know, because I just finished talking a lot, but I'll
• 1:16:06
  just say he's a, he's a hundred percent right, bro.
• 1:16:08
  Like it did the day, I always say when it comes to recruiting
• 1:16:11
  rankings, and look at the office and I'm in high school, I think
• 1:16:14
  that's the toughest position to evaluate because, you know, I
• 1:16:18
  think and I played during the Golden Era, the peninsula
• 1:16:20
  districts, I want to get some dogs are fevers and and Bethel,
• 1:16:23
  and and Warrick and Menchville, but at the same time, there was
• 1:16:27
  nice men and scrimmages or regular season games, I was
• 1:16:30
  going against a guy to the, like a Toddler.
• 1:16:32
  You know, you just came to my waist.
• 1:16:33
  I was just look at him and look in the stands while I was
• 1:16:36
  blocking him, but then you get the text.
• 1:16:37
  You're going against Cornell Brown, John eagleburger Corey
• 1:16:40
  Moore called Bradley David few and Nate Nate Williams and you
• 1:16:44
  don't kiss of men. And it's just one of those
• 1:16:47
  things you got to be physically tough agile, and also be able to
• 1:16:51
  think because the offensive line position you have to be
• 1:16:54
  aggressive, and you have to know how to block One play, eight,
• 1:16:57
  different ways, depending on what front, you're going to see
• 1:17:00
  and that stuff. And you got to be able to do it
• 1:17:02
  because you know, you won't know who I am until I miss a blocked.
• 1:17:05
  You know. So if it's an adjustment.
• 1:17:09
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:17:10
  I would do it, the white change our, our deepest line was almost
• 1:17:14
  better than everybody ACC, so I'm not sure if I can get better
• 1:17:17
  with them, you know, like you said, so.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah, I'll talk about, you know, High School guys being small.
• 1:17:35
  I mean, I played III, I'm six foot in cleats.
• 1:17:39
  Played it about 245 in high school with there was some, some
• 1:17:42
  small ass, guys, I was going again, so, compared to to you
• 1:17:46
  two gentlemen. I know that's that, you know,
• 1:17:48
  that jump from going against, you know, occasionally players
• 1:17:51
  like that. To, you know, everybody is
• 1:17:55
  running around with, with your size, your agility for that
• 1:17:59
  sized. I think that's the big thing
• 1:18:01
  that You know, people sometimes discount is like, you know, you
• 1:18:04
  know, people are 64 65 out there 320 pounds and can fucking move.
• 1:18:12
  And I think that, you know, some people don't really, really
• 1:18:15
  think about that sometimes. So that's good to kind of, kind
• 1:18:19
  of put that out there for the listeners.
• 1:18:22
  The next one, we got here. This is kind of to everybody.
• 1:18:25
  So, you know, let me know who you want to, who wants to jump
• 1:18:27
  in. On this one first, this is from
• 1:18:31
  Um, at hunker down hokey on Twitter, with all of our
• 1:18:35
  exceptional skill players. All of our experience skill
• 1:18:37
  players being more role players than home run hitters.
• 1:18:42
  Who is this often, who in this offense, is going to emerge as
• 1:18:45
  the big play threat in 2022. And I'll actually kick it over
• 1:18:52
  to Mike first a live mic lead on this one.
• 1:18:55
  If you got something like yeah Malachi Thomas.
• 1:18:58
  I mean we saw glimpses of it last year but I think it's going
• 1:19:01
  to have to be to Malachi or maybe Keshawn.
• 1:19:03
  King like David mentioned earlier, like someone who has
• 1:19:06
  shown the potential and has produced at times throughout
• 1:19:10
  their career and Keyshawn skin Keyshawn Kings case or you know
• 1:19:14
  at times last year in Malachi Thomas's case.
• 1:19:16
  And you know all indications are Malachi Thompson.
• 1:19:19
  Put some way. Ontario.
• 1:19:20
  So I think that's huge, that's a concern over the course of a
• 1:19:23
  full season, you know, last year he was playing, he was so lean
• 1:19:27
  when he was playing last year. That was a concern.
• 1:19:29
  If he was going to, you know, kind of project this forward
• 1:19:32
  over a full season, you know, what was that going to look like
• 1:19:34
  health-wise form, but I think it's going to have to be
• 1:19:37
  somebody in the running back room at potentially day.
• 1:19:40
  One Lofton tube though. If you look at like the
• 1:19:42
  receiving Corps like we haven't really seen enough of him yet.
• 1:19:46
  To really make an indication one way or another, if he's going to
• 1:19:48
  be kind of like a home run hitting, Type guy, but he's got
• 1:19:51
  some serious speed. So if you get the ball in his
• 1:19:53
  hands, I think that that, that would be something I think that
• 1:19:55
  would benefit Tech as well. But yeah, I mean I think the
• 1:19:59
  question is fair like a lot of the experienced guys, were
• 1:20:02
  carrying our kind of more roll guys, or at least that's been
• 1:20:05
  their role so far. It's just been possession type
• 1:20:08
  receivers and like, Kayla Smith's case writer, you know, a
• 1:20:12
  guy who's been like a goal line type, a core has been in and out
• 1:20:14
  of the running back rotation, like Jalen holson.
• 1:20:16
  So who's that guy going to be? And I think it's either going to
• 1:20:18
  be mouth. Tom szaky, Chongqing.
• 1:20:21
  Yeah, we saw ballot kind of jump out with two big games last year
• 1:20:24
  and then we didn't see a whole lot of him down the stretch
• 1:20:27
  there, so it's going to be good to see if he can kind of settle
• 1:20:30
  into a consistent role for us this year and because we really,
• 1:20:34
  I mean, thinking back, Herbert, 20, 20 years side, we it's been
• 1:20:39
  a long time since we've had a consistent lead back, so be nice
• 1:20:42
  to have a guy that we can see that from maybe in back-to-back
• 1:20:45
  years. Finally have a truly back again.
• 1:20:48
  So it's, you know, David Mann that.
• 1:20:51
  Yeah, not since David Wilson as we had guys like, don't don't
• 1:20:55
  forget Khalil Herbert. Now, I know but.
• 1:20:58
  But I mean, I'm saying David. Yeah.
• 1:21:00
  I was thinking back to back. Back to back years.
• 1:21:02
  I have to vacuum trap for that guy.
• 1:21:10
  I think it's is where we always want to find someone as it, is
• 1:21:14
  it, anybody sneaky out there, you know, we're hearing things
• 1:21:17
  about Tucker, Holloway being fast, A, he's a true freshman, I
• 1:21:22
  can't see that. I mean, is it someone in the
• 1:21:24
  return game? I know colbeck return colbeck
• 1:21:27
  fast, but you're not gonna put cold back out there and play
• 1:21:30
  wide out. But can you, can you Kenny
• 1:21:32
  Kitty? Do a kickoff return and I hope
• 1:21:35
  David and a few weeks. They let you guys into those
• 1:21:37
  sessions because it got runs a 10-1, 300 meters, he's gonna
• 1:21:42
  return kicks. He's gonna return case bumper.
• 1:21:44
  I already said that, okay, I watched him play.
• 1:21:51
  That kid was a freak on kickoff returns, he'll be out there.
• 1:21:57
  Yes, so to answer the quote back question.
• 1:22:00
  I mean, he's going to be a guy that they're going to get the
• 1:22:02
  ball to in space, right? You know his hands they've
• 1:22:05
  talked you know, Brent Pride mentioned last week, his hands
• 1:22:08
  of his hands are fine, you know, but he also hasn't really
• 1:22:11
  touched a football play competitive football in for five
• 1:22:14
  years now you know it's been a while, he's not going to catch a
• 1:22:19
  slant. Across the middle and traffic.
• 1:22:21
  He's going to be a guy. You throw it to the flat and you
• 1:22:23
  let him do a couple guys. Yeah, put him.
• 1:22:26
  They work for you. Put him in week three.
• 1:22:28
  We only know experiments week one, we treat.
• 1:23:13
  I did research after that game. As far as the record goes back
• 1:23:17
  to 1987 which is when Frank Beamer first started, Is it
• 1:23:20
  first true freshman Drew freshman ever to record three
• 1:23:23
  touchdowns in the game and then you know he disappeared down the
• 1:23:28
  stretch and got you know didn't have more than seven rushing
• 1:23:31
  attempts in the final four games of the Season.
• 1:23:33
  He had inconsistent touches how Virginia Tech uses him and this
• 1:23:38
  will be a question. I'm sure somebody will ask stew
• 1:23:40
  hope tomorrow at media day. How Virginia Tech uses the
• 1:23:44
  running backs. Virginia Tech needs to have
• 1:23:46
  balance on the offense. It can't be just running the
• 1:23:50
  ball or just passing the ball in the receiving game.
• 1:23:53
  I think Caleb Smith. We saw what he could do during
• 1:23:56
  the Spring Game and I think I think there was such a
• 1:24:00
  disconnect after Holman Wiggins left in that wide receiver room.
• 1:24:06
  You know, Caleb Smith again was told to go, he was suggested to
• 1:24:10
  go play at FCS level, or did he d 2?
• 1:24:13
  And we saw him torchin, you know, Virginia Tech's dbe's left
• 1:24:16
  and right. And the spring game he had 250
• 1:24:18
  plus yard touchdowns with Grant Wells.
• 1:24:20
  We know the arm Grant Wells has. I think it's going to be either
• 1:24:24
  malachite Thomas or Caleb Smith in the passing game.
• 1:24:27
  You know one of those guys. Guys is kind of going to have to
• 1:24:30
  come up and make some big plays, but it's gonna have to be a
• 1:24:32
  balance and it cannot just be the two of them contributing
• 1:24:36
  because it is just the two of them contributing.
• 1:24:38
  You're going to see an offense is going to stall a lot and you
• 1:24:41
  know we all know what happens when when you only have two or
• 1:24:44
  three contributors make it easy for the defense to man up on
• 1:24:47
  them. Yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:24:51
  I agree with that 100%. And I think that, you know, when
• 1:24:54
  you look at Caleb Smith, I think his leadership is obviously
• 1:24:56
  going to be probably the key attribute attribute.
• 1:24:58
  He brings to the table this year, but having that veteran
• 1:25:03
  presence in that room, I think is going to be a benefit for
• 1:25:06
  everybody across the board as well, but I'm going to go to
• 1:25:09
  another question here. This one's also kind of to
• 1:25:11
  everybody. This is from at John underscore,
• 1:25:15
  Earl ivy on Twitter, Stephen, Earl.
• 1:25:21
  How important will it be to have the same starting quarterback
• 1:25:25
  for all 12 games in the 2022 season and I'm going to kick it
• 1:25:30
  to. Let's see who, let's get Don.
• 1:25:33
  Vila da bu lead off on this one if you want to.
• 1:25:37
  You said the same quarterback for all 12 games.
• 1:25:40
  Yeah, you don't mean shit. If he asks, I mean, is he good?
• 1:25:47
  Okay, he's above me. All right.
• 1:25:58
  The die. But yeah he played I mean really
• 1:26:02
  he threw some Hospital balls in the spring game bro he could
• 1:26:05
  have he gonna get somebody killed in a real game broke?
• 1:26:08
  I mean we don't talk for real, we don't talk for real.
• 1:26:10
  Yeah. I'm gonna ballsy throwing that
• 1:26:12
  spring and get somebody killed in a real game, bro.
• 1:26:15
  Like let's keep it a band. Yeah, I mean like well it's
• 1:26:20
  definitely I think impressed me the most in the spring game.
• 1:26:23
  Those two touchdown passes. The Caleb Caleb Smith we can do
• 1:26:26
  that. That every game, fantastic.
• 1:26:29
  I mean, I don't care. You see what happened with and
• 1:26:32
  this is a knock on anyone, but you saw what happened with Ryan,
• 1:26:35
  Willis, few years back and headed hooker comes in and takes
• 1:26:38
  over. And, you know, then hendon's the
• 1:26:41
  guy, it's like, I want who's best.
• 1:26:43
  I was playing the best at this point, it doesn't matter.
• 1:26:47
  Whoever is the best man for the job.
• 1:26:49
  That's why I went out there. Always Baby, you got anything on
• 1:26:54
  this one? I mean I will just say this oh
• 1:26:59
  sorry I thought you said David not to go ahead Danny that
• 1:27:04
  worries guys AI it starts and ends with Grant Wells this year
• 1:27:07
  I mean it's going to start then with it the quarterback position
• 1:27:09
  is it always will there's not really anything you don't need
• 1:27:13
  to think too hard about that. I've heard Malachi Thomas
• 1:27:15
  brought up to we didn't really get to see him at all in the
• 1:27:17
  spring game obviously but once they solidified the quarterback
• 1:27:22
  position we get the announcement we get that offensive line in
• 1:27:25
  place. They just need to start cranking
• 1:27:27
  it out. That's all that it comes down to
• 1:27:28
  for me. I want to see somebody played 12
• 1:27:32
  games because I think if we have somebody played 12 games, Wells
• 1:27:35
  Brown, whoever it means we didn't get the offensive line
• 1:27:38
  injured because I think if you if you tell me we have
• 1:27:41
  quarterback, you know, Grant Wells, played 8 games, Jason
• 1:27:44
  Brown played for somebody on the offensive line got hurt and they
• 1:27:47
  got the shit knocked out of them once or twice and they were out
• 1:27:50
  multiple weeks. So I'd love to see one guy.
• 1:27:53
  But the Dons point if he's ass, it doesn't matter.
• 1:27:56
  If he's asked you got to pull him.
• 1:27:57
  Now he goes out there and plays solid solid.
• 1:28:01
  I'm not I don't expect. I don't expect spectacular but
• 1:28:03
  if you play solid lean on the bread fried defense I'd be found
• 1:28:07
  the guy going 12 games you can you can win games with a game
• 1:28:11
  manager. It's true that we can't wait.
• 1:28:14
  I mean it's is offense, Wednesday is offense.
• 1:28:18
  I used to like it when he had manageable quarterbacks because
• 1:28:22
  it's a quarterback friendly offense until he forces them to
• 1:28:25
  run too much. Much.
• 1:28:26
  And that's what he did with her and my sister and even Gerard
• 1:28:29
  another quarterbacks it was, it was too many quarterback powers
• 1:28:34
  and too many runs. When you have running backs that
• 1:28:36
  can do the same thing. I think, you know, I know Tyler
• 1:28:40
  born, I knew Tyler born before he came to Virginia Tech and I
• 1:28:44
  talked to him, he'll he they know what they're doing.
• 1:28:48
  I mean as far as you noted on these point about him being an
• 1:28:51
  ass, I think that's anything. I think it's a competition with
• 1:28:54
  prize. God.
• 1:28:54
  Now he doesn't get it done, they're going to look elsewhere.
• 1:28:56
  Swear but I think right now it's more.
• 1:28:58
  So while putting putting the responsibility on everybody
• 1:29:01
  versus on one person. I, you know I think a lot of
• 1:29:04
  times there was too much put on Burmeister and even it was a
• 1:29:08
  quarterback from the offense. Many, when I say that I'm
• 1:29:10
  talking about the Reeds and everything they were forced to
• 1:29:12
  make, they really have that many reads, but the same time, you
• 1:29:16
  can't run your quarterbacks that much.
• 1:29:19
  It just it just doesn't, it doesn't prove to be successful.
• 1:29:23
  Let's, let's talk about that a little bit more real quick
• 1:29:25
  because the one of the biggest criticisms I had last year is
• 1:29:27
  that you've got the read option in your, your tool book, right?
• 1:29:34
  But so often they were essentially designed handoffs
• 1:29:40
  but then when you, so when you're not decoying anything,
• 1:29:42
  your quarterbacks no longer a decoy, so when he's running,
• 1:29:45
  he's running, and when he's not, he's not, you're not, there's an
• 1:29:48
  element of the offense that's supposed to be the option and
• 1:29:52
  make Aching the defense confused as to who's going to have the
• 1:29:55
  ball but you're taking that away with the predictability of the
• 1:29:57
  calls. So I mean that was my beef with
• 1:30:01
  with the way that things were called last year and that hurt
• 1:30:05
  Burmeister when he's running the ball because the defense is key
• 1:30:09
  in on that they're looking at it and saying, okay, well they're
• 1:30:11
  going to run power when they when they go in this motion or
• 1:30:14
  when they're in this formation and going this motion, I mean,
• 1:30:17
  they were they were telegraphing that all the time.
• 1:30:20
  We saw it coming and the defense's that we played song
• 1:30:23
  Come into and Burmeister. You know, the whole joke was the
• 1:30:27
  perk Mi sure thing when he was popping pills on the sidelines,
• 1:30:30
  trying to get back in the game. I mean we got our quarterback,
• 1:30:32
  that's getting beat the hell up and we're not doing anything to
• 1:30:37
  make, make his game, come to him better and get him comfortable
• 1:30:41
  back there. And I that was a consistent
• 1:30:44
  problem. Throughout what at school.
• 1:30:46
  That's that's what I mean, about skiing.
• 1:30:47
  Like a lot of times and those after after Rod Evans and those
• 1:30:51
  guys left and then the following you had Josh Axe and they still
• 1:30:54
  finished the season ranked they won nine games but after that
• 1:30:58
  Talent left those two years left they will force the coach.
• 1:31:00
  Those last three seasons, right? Tip on what you saw was a lack
• 1:31:04
  of scheme and lack of creativity.
• 1:31:06
  So for example, after by weeks of off weeks, or even in the
• 1:31:09
  second half, you never saw any place new place.
• 1:31:12
  You never saw any new situations where they were ruins.
• 1:31:15
  Any wrinkles, you wouldn't see anything, where they would take
• 1:31:19
  somebody and put them in the slot where he was out at The X.
• 1:31:22
  Like they didn't, they didn't mix things up.
• 1:31:25
  It wasn't really until that last year, when they stay the fake
• 1:31:28
  field goal and fake, they got Creek, has it?
• 1:31:30
  They knew they were going to be gone but to your point B, you
• 1:31:34
  know, a lot of that is more. So just steaming and coaching,
• 1:31:37
  you know, and having wrinkles and knowing how to use your
• 1:31:39
  personnel, you don't have to look football, it's not a
• 1:31:43
  complex for it. When it comes to coaching, you
• 1:31:45
  got to just take your personnel personnel and just to it a lot
• 1:31:48
  of times, you know, with the No offense plays.
• 1:31:51
  We had they were predictable. I mean, the Jet Sweep wasn't.
• 1:31:55
  The problem is that the timing of when they called it a lot of
• 1:31:59
  things work. Next week it was the timing of
• 1:32:01
  it situational play calling the timing the location on the field
• 1:32:06
  going into the boundary when you did need to some of the most
• 1:32:11
  frustrating parts of the last few years especially like you
• 1:32:14
  run that jet Suite up to the boundary and it's like second
• 1:32:16
  and four. Brian, you got to talk me off a
• 1:32:20
  ledge, he's like, you know, you do that play and it works,
• 1:32:23
  you're going to get the first down.
• 1:32:24
  If it gets blown up, its third and 11, its third and 12 it will
• 1:32:28
  get its, it doesn't make sense to call that play to that side
• 1:32:32
  of the field in that situation. And that's the one thing over
• 1:32:35
  the past. 34 Seasons that got frustrating, it was
• 1:32:41
  situationally, you got worse, and worse and worse in, you
• 1:32:45
  know, somebody, you know, it was on here is like, when was the
• 1:32:49
  moment that you felt for Wendy? Wasn't the guy and it was
• 1:32:53
  Liberty. I lost my shit.
• 1:32:54
  Go back and listen to that episode on 20/20.
• 1:32:57
  I literally lost my shit that day on this podcast.
• 1:33:01
  And that's what that's when I was done it.
• 1:33:02
  Because, you know, you looked on the side, there was no juice
• 1:33:06
  with the players. Hers.
• 1:33:08
  That's one of those games where John the white Daniel made a
• 1:33:12
  point. We've all been discussing it.
• 1:33:14
  Go out there in squash them, go out there and make them that our
• 1:33:18
  bus ride the Lynchburg the most miserable bus route of their
• 1:33:21
  life with ODU and the first game of the season make that walk
• 1:33:25
  back to their locker room. The most miserable Hundred-Foot
• 1:33:29
  walk of their life. You need to make sure that they
• 1:33:31
  don't want to come back out after halftime.
• 1:33:33
  Damn right. You if teams like that rolling
• 1:33:35
  to your place, you need to make sure that they don't want to
• 1:33:37
  come out. Halftime again.
• 1:33:39
  I mean, that that situation football that kid.
• 1:33:41
  I think he transferred to some do.
• 1:33:43
  One day a school, but we were playing Richmond last year.
• 1:33:47
  I think we had a turnover. We stopped them and then they
• 1:33:49
  put him in the backup quarterback and he threw away.
• 1:33:52
  Yes, that's what I mean about like that that's not you can you
• 1:33:56
  don't need to be offensive coordinator to know that we're
• 1:33:59
  not up enough to put it back at backup quarterback in and we're
• 1:34:02
  only we're at our own 20, you know, it was a close game, he
• 1:34:06
  threw a pick. That's what I mean about.
• 1:34:08
  Like you can look at the Way Forest game.
• 1:34:10
  We lost at Wake Forest. We got what's-his-name Khalil
• 1:34:13
  Herbert and he's not touching the ball.
• 1:34:16
  You know, who, you know, who's running the ball that night and
• 1:34:19
  didn't hook her and he wasn't 100% know.
• 1:34:23
  That's why I said, some of this stuff is skiing guys.
• 1:34:25
  It's team. It's just when I think you guys,
• 1:34:29
  I think an interesting point here and I'll make this real
• 1:34:31
  quick. This is the first time in a
• 1:34:33
  while where Virginia Tech's offensive coordinator hasn't
• 1:34:36
  been the quarterback. Coach.
• 1:34:38
  You've got Brad Glenn. He's only the quarterbacks coach
• 1:34:43
  and when we got a chance to talk to him back in March kind of
• 1:34:46
  when he was first hired, he and all the other assistants and he
• 1:34:49
  said he's really excited just to only work with quarterbacks.
• 1:34:52
  You know he's been offensive coordinator before, he knows how
• 1:34:54
  it is but he can sit there and develop Grant Wells, who I
• 1:34:58
  should remind you guys. If you've forgotten, he's got
• 1:35:02
  another year after this and then he's got a covid, your if he
• 1:35:04
  wants it. So he's got potentially three
• 1:35:06
  years. Playing for Virginia Tech.
• 1:35:08
  He might not be at his best this year, maybe but he's got plenty
• 1:35:12
  of time to develop with, with a quarterbacks coach, who is
• 1:35:17
  solely focused on him. Now, how the communication works
• 1:35:19
  with Brad, Glenn and Tyler bones going to be interesting.
• 1:35:22
  I'm sure that's something. I don't think they'll come up
• 1:35:24
  throughout the season and, you know, throughout the future.
• 1:35:27
  But but the development of the quarterbacks with a, with a
• 1:35:32
  quarterback, only assistant, I think that's going to be really
• 1:35:36
  interesting. Yeah, I agree with you and I
• 1:35:39
  think that Dynamic is going to be interesting to see how that
• 1:35:41
  works out. You talked about having Glenn.
• 1:35:45
  There you also have, obviously Rudolph has had some offensive
• 1:35:48
  coordinator experience as well. So you got three guys that have
• 1:35:54
  at least called 1 u 1 game in their career at this point, you
• 1:36:00
  know. So it's going to be interesting
• 1:36:02
  how they how that Dynamic works. But I think there's a lot of
• 1:36:04
  potential there as we kind of had into the season, but I'm
• 1:36:07
  going to I'm gonna jump over to this next one.
• 1:36:09
  And this one is a little bit of a different angle here and this
• 1:36:12
  is to everybody. So whoever wants to chime in go
• 1:36:15
  for it. But this is from Matt Parker on
• 1:36:18
  YouTube is the hype around the new coaches masking and obvious
• 1:36:24
  below, 500 team. So we getting spicy here, guys.
• 1:36:31
  I'll go first, I'll go first here, I don't know if it's an
• 1:36:33
  obvious below, 500 team. Like I talked about this off the
• 1:36:39
  top like the team that Fuente inherited in 2016, from Beamer
• 1:36:46
  is a lot better than the team prize inheriting in 2022 from
• 1:36:51
  Fuente. With that being said, like This
• 1:36:56
  team still won six regular-season games last year,
• 1:36:59
  right? Like and I think they're
• 1:37:02
  upgrading a quarterback. I don't know if it's an obvious
• 1:37:06
  below, 500 team, and that's before you even talk about the
• 1:37:09
  schedule itself, which there are a lot of teams that lost a lot
• 1:37:14
  or have questions, write, like, uva's got an entirely new
• 1:37:18
  coaching staff, UNC, has been all bark, but no bite, right?
• 1:37:22
  With Mack Brown, like Pittsburgh.
• 1:37:25
  I think I agree with David, like, Pittsburgh's really
• 1:37:27
  talented. I think, you know, they're my
• 1:37:29
  pick to win the coastal, but, you know, you can even like,
• 1:37:32
  squint a little bit and they got some questions too.
• 1:37:34
  Right. Cadence Louis.
• 1:37:35
  A quarterback coming over USC, like what does that look like
• 1:37:38
  they lose? Kenny picket, they lose your
• 1:37:40
  Nason. So there's some questions are
• 1:37:42
  even though they have a lot of talent.
• 1:37:43
  Like every team's got questions, Miami's got an entirely new
• 1:37:46
  coaching staff NC State under Dave Turin.
• 1:37:49
  Like anytime NC State's got expectations, they tend to lose.
• 1:37:54
  So that's kind of where not great, right?
• 1:37:57
  And so, and and like, ODU is a winnable, Liberties winnable
• 1:38:02
  like everyone a winnable games on the Will I just, I pushed
• 1:38:07
  back a little bit saying. This is an obvious below. 500
• 1:38:10
  team now is the prai, is the excitement over pry and the
• 1:38:14
  coaching staff for year one, you know, making people's
• 1:38:18
  expectations, maybe the fan expectations a little bit higher
• 1:38:22
  than probably what they should be.
• 1:38:23
  Yeah, but I think it's like that with almost any new coaching
• 1:38:26
  regime. That's what happens, there's a
• 1:38:28
  bump, everybody's more excited about the future than they were
• 1:38:30
  about the, you know that the past.
• 1:38:33
  So You know, I think that's part of it.
• 1:38:36
  I think that's natural. Anytime, there's a coaching
• 1:38:38
  change. We're moving on from something
• 1:38:39
  that didn't work out, but at the same time, like I don't think
• 1:38:43
  this is an obvious below, 500 team.
• 1:38:46
  I just don't I'll see it. I'm gonna say this real quick
• 1:38:49
  and everybody kind of gathering think about last year, this team
• 1:38:54
  was on the doorstep of being West, Virginia and Morgantown in
• 1:38:57
  September on the door. This close this team was one
• 1:39:01
  drive away from beating a 11 win Notre.
• 1:39:04
  Main team in Lane Stadium. Mmm, well, the that won't a joke
• 1:39:08
  team last year they had them and they let it slip Syracuse game.
• 1:39:13
  Literally a bomb in the last, 40 seconds, lose that game.
• 1:39:17
  Dwight, I'm gonna throw it back in.
• 1:39:19
  I've been talking with Brian about this last week, all week
• 1:39:22
  you were there and you were watching go 92 to 93 how clingy
• 1:39:28
  close games that team was in in the next season.
• 1:39:33
  They went eight regular season. Gaines A9 at the bowl.
• 1:39:36
  Well, yeah, you know I wish I wasn't I wasn't there, but I was
• 1:39:40
  coming in but I know Rachel. But yeah, Gracie, I was being
• 1:39:43
  recruited by my was watching. Grayson I know he wants to talk
• 1:39:46
  to I was just saying this, I pulled up, I pulled up the
• 1:39:49
  record, it's funny. You you did that Curtis because
• 1:39:52
  that's where I was getting ready to say to the guy watching them
• 1:39:54
  on the YouTube broadcast. Is that even when Jonathan was,
• 1:39:59
  there you go back, you know, Two thousand, thirteen, fourteen and
• 1:40:03
  fifteen seven and six Going to 68 and five and two thousand
• 1:40:06
  twelve seven and six right at the end of the day, even if you
• 1:40:10
  throw in the 2004 season, when they won the ACC, their first
• 1:40:13
  year in ACC, there were several games that could have went
• 1:40:17
  either way. So, in some of those seven and
• 1:40:19
  six and eight five seasons, Beamers, last 45 years, there
• 1:40:23
  were several games, where was a call?
• 1:40:26
  A missed field goal of fumbled snap.
• 1:40:28
  Even a year when they had Joshua Jackson and they were playing
• 1:40:32
  Oklahoma State. Getting ready.
• 1:40:33
  Go out 14 and And they fumbled the ball at the goal line.
• 1:40:37
  If they score, they go and win that game and they win 10 games
• 1:40:40
  and point a second year. Yeah, my point is not to become
• 1:40:43
  clichés but there's a fine line. This is I'm just going to say
• 1:40:47
  that you mentioned Curtis the 90 to 90 91 92 era, that's Rock.
• 1:40:53
  Bottom, bro. Virginia Tech, fans have not
• 1:40:55
  seen Rock Bottom. We just spoiled and we have high
• 1:40:58
  expectations. My second Point.
• 1:41:00
  I'ma let, my man, Grayson Rock the mic at the end of the day.
• 1:41:05
  This is not hype around prai nobody hyping up Tech we won't
• 1:41:09
  get no votes. You read you a was picked to
• 1:41:12
  finish ahead of us in the coastal.
• 1:41:15
  First time I've ever seen that, bro.
• 1:41:17
  And then on top of we got no votes.
• 1:41:19
  So at the end of the day, man, like ain't no hike.
• 1:41:22
  What you have around Virginia Tech fans is excitement because
• 1:41:26
  you can just see that things are going and trending in the right
• 1:41:29
  way when it comes to in-state recruiting, getting the right,
• 1:41:32
  Virginia Tech guys having a Now that you have when a coach that
• 1:41:36
  lets his assistants interview where we can no more than just a
• 1:41:39
  head coach, there's a connection with the fans.
• 1:41:42
  Again that's just people being excited about someone caring
• 1:41:45
  about their program, the alumni connecting, you know not just
• 1:41:48
  the football players. But I mean Mike young and pride,
• 1:41:51
  you know they're tight, you know, they're, you know, not
• 1:41:53
  tight but they they got respect for each other.
• 1:41:55
  So is this the energy, man? It's not about like nobody's
• 1:41:58
  talking about Virginia Tech, right?
• 1:41:59
  Which is a great thing, but knowing what a Grace, and I know
• 1:42:02
  you got to talk. Well, no.
• 1:42:04
  What exactly what you just said Dwight it's not about masking,
• 1:42:08
  any type of wind situation or whatever its people are excited.
• 1:42:11
  Like I don't know if you guys remember.
• 1:42:13
  This is not the video of Brent pry, Corps.
• 1:42:15
  Cadets first civilian snowball fight and he's out on the drill
• 1:42:18
  field participating in that last regime never did that.
• 1:42:24
  Never never, bring didn't even pretend to want to do that and
• 1:42:28
  people could say, oh, Brent price, putting on a front?
• 1:42:31
  No he's not. That's him.
• 1:42:32
  He wants to be out there. He wants to be having a good
• 1:42:36
  time. He's saying and doing all the
• 1:42:38
  right things and like At first I'm like is he just doing this
• 1:42:42
  just to do it and I just saw that Mark Packer came in and
• 1:42:46
  they did the ACC kind of round table with Virginia Tech and you
• 1:42:50
  can tell that Brent try once. Virginia Tech to be great.
• 1:42:54
  You can tell that he wants us to be a national Powerhouse.
• 1:42:57
  Again wants us to get back to a winning culture.
• 1:43:00
  And so it's not like it's not about 500.
• 1:43:04
  Or less, it's about Virginia Tech fans, being excited to have
• 1:43:08
  a head coach, who wants to be in the building wants to be in,
• 1:43:11
  Blacksburg cares about the fans. Cares about the players cares,
• 1:43:15
  about all of it. That's it.
• 1:43:18
  That's all. I got.
• 1:43:19
  Awesome, Jersey. Hey, I think John's got
• 1:43:22
  something he wants to kind of piggyback on that with.
• 1:43:24
  Go ahead. You got there?
• 1:43:27
  Yes, sir. Period, that would make it
• 1:43:51
  exciting. So I like the whites and we
• 1:43:53
  just, we everyone's so excited to be haven't seen less problem.
• 1:43:56
  So years, we haven't seen that, you know.
• 1:43:59
  So it's coming more familiar with what hope you make is all
• 1:44:02
  about. That's all I got awesome.
• 1:44:05
  Yeah, I think we're seeing, you know, We've seen what we, what
• 1:44:10
  we didn't have. And I think now that we've seen
• 1:44:12
  what we have, I think we're excited about that.
• 1:44:15
  And for what that means down the road, I think we understand the
• 1:44:18
  limitations that are potential for 2022, just based on roster
• 1:44:22
  construction, and depth overall, but that's not to say that it's
• 1:44:27
  an obvious below. 500 team either.
• 1:44:29
  I think there is Talent on the roster.
• 1:44:31
  I just don't think we had as prosthetic.
• 1:44:33
  I don't think we have enough of it right now.
• 1:44:35
  Right. So I think that's kind of the,
• 1:44:37
  the fact, the situation. Hey, Brian and Brian that!
• 1:44:40
  That what you just last point you just said that.
• 1:44:44
  Oh, geez, and people that coach will pay attention.
• 1:44:46
  The media. Know why he said that that's a
• 1:44:48
  motivating tool. See people didn't hear that.
• 1:44:51
  People heard they don't have enough Talent.
• 1:44:53
  He is challenging the guys, and the two and three deep.
• 1:44:56
  When he says I just don't think we have enough of it.
• 1:44:58
  The guys playing behind the starters hear that and they take
• 1:45:02
  it personal the the regular fan heard that it was like, oh my
• 1:45:05
  God we're not going to make it, he knows who's listening.
• 1:45:08
  To that because those players here that read that quote to,
• 1:45:11
  he's telling me that's an indirect challenge.
• 1:45:14
  Yep, trust me, man. I know the game.
• 1:45:17
  Yeah, man. All right, we got we got a
• 1:45:20
  couple more here from the fans and then we're going to get a
• 1:45:22
  little bit of a wrap up here to kind of call it a night, but the
• 1:45:25
  next one that will go to is from at Steve Bryce 2020 on Twitter.
• 1:45:32
  And this is kind of a throwback to 2021 or even before.
• 1:45:35
  For a lot of you guys, what was the game?
• 1:45:38
  Or moment in the last few years that let you know that coach
• 1:45:43
  Fuente was not the guy for Blacksburg.
• 1:45:46
  I'm sitting this one out already said Liberty.
• 1:45:48
  It's y'all for Liberty. Mike Liberty, Liberty Haley,
• 1:45:54
  real quick, real quick. I'm sorry.
• 1:45:56
  Like I say, Liberty a lot. Like some people are gonna be
• 1:46:00
  like, oh yeah. ODU and you know, a Donzi would
• 1:46:03
  say, oh, do you? Yeah, I don't say, oh, to you is
• 1:46:07
  because I know some weird stuff was having in that game but like
• 1:46:10
  whenever you lose your quarterback, Weird stuff
• 1:46:14
  happens. I know the defense wasn't
• 1:46:15
  getting stopped, everybody's flying but Foster after that
• 1:46:18
  which you know rightfully so those poor performance but like
• 1:46:21
  any time you lose a quarterback and you love the game like that
• 1:46:24
  and your backups not ready to go, like stuff goes a little
• 1:46:28
  sideways. So nail nail in the coffin
• 1:46:31
  moment for me, there were a few games before but the nail in the
• 1:46:34
  coffin was Notre Dame last year after a after that game.
• 1:46:38
  I was like, it's over. See you?
• 1:46:42
  Hey, yo. It was Liberty, but I will say
• 1:46:48
  this to you. Oh, do you?
• 1:46:50
  Oh, do you have me on tilt? But the one that did it, but it
• 1:46:54
  kind of got mad because he didn't say the season was the
• 1:46:56
  dewclaws. Oh, yeah.
• 1:46:58
  Because I was, I stepped out. I don't miss Tech games.
• 1:47:01
  I last year, was the first time I was back in Blacksburg for the
• 1:47:06
  spring game because I had made like 16 17 consecutive spring
• 1:47:09
  games. So you guys know how much I love
• 1:47:11
  Tech? I was talking to Pearson pray.
• 1:47:13
  Before you came back to Coast. We talked about how life when
• 1:47:16
  Tech lost on Saturdays or whatever.
• 1:47:18
  They we were done for the rest of the night, right?
• 1:47:20
  That dupe debacle. I want you to Wu-Tang Snoop
• 1:47:23
  concert. I was like, okay, this would be,
• 1:47:25
  this would be a safe night and I had the phone, I was watching
• 1:47:28
  the game on my phone, my wife. And I'm like, why we rotating on
• 1:47:31
  his quarterback? What are we doing?
• 1:47:33
  Next thing, that was forty five to ten and that Duke team was
• 1:47:36
  horrible and they kept showing Wednesday on the sidelines
• 1:47:38
  chewing gum and he had his head set on, he just never change the
• 1:47:41
  faces. I was like yo he ain't it man.
• 1:47:44
  I started to go back and circle around two guys.
• 1:47:47
  Like Donald be another people who were adamant that he wasn't
• 1:47:50
  it, and the thing about dissing Jonathan knows this when you are
• 1:47:54
  from a player, whether it's your high school especially your
• 1:47:56
  college like Tech. I don't care if it's Oscar, the
• 1:47:59
  grouch's the head coach. We want to see the program win.
• 1:48:02
  I wasn't anti Fuente. I just wanted to see us win.
• 1:48:06
  This is my program bro. And like that Duke debacle was
• 1:48:09
  bad. But Liberty, I just I was The
• 1:48:13
  man, I was ready to drive up there, bro.
• 1:48:15
  Real talk full disclosure, I'm bad.
• 1:48:20
  As they were honoring, the 1999 team that night, maybe even
• 1:48:24
  Grayson not right. Yeah.
• 1:48:25
  Thank you. We got it.
• 1:48:26
  Are you going? Because my cousin was there and
• 1:48:31
  I asked him and he was like, first of all.
• 1:48:33
  And when you've been at many people from the 919 there
• 1:48:35
  because of him in the lack of disconnection and then when I
• 1:48:39
  read, he didn't know it and he didn't talk to them.
• 1:48:43
  I said, bro. Shut the ill it's over.
• 1:48:50
  I what about you Danny? Where's Danny?
• 1:49:25
  So we're about to talk predictions but less first
• 1:49:28
  gauge. Some expectations at hokey and
• 1:49:32
  Bama on. Twitter asked, what would you
• 1:49:35
  all consider a good first season under the new staff?
• 1:49:43
  Now, don't let's go, let's go. Let's go with, let's go with
• 1:49:46
  David on this one first. As somebody in the media who
• 1:49:51
  covers this team on a regular basis, I would say getting to
• 1:49:58
  getting to and not necessarily winning it but at least getting
• 1:50:02
  to a bowl game. I think winning.
• 1:50:03
  It would be a bonus but getting to a bowl game which means you
• 1:50:07
  finished above 500. That is a successful season.
• 1:50:10
  Again, as we've talked about many times, football is a game
• 1:50:14
  where there are many injuries the margins can be ever so.
• 1:50:18
  So slim you don't know what's going to happen, but if you're
• 1:50:21
  one Brent, Prayin, this staff can overcome any challenges,
• 1:50:25
  they face and get to a bowl game.
• 1:50:27
  I think winning it is, is a not, I'm not going to, you know, put
• 1:50:32
  a grade on it, but that would be a pretty good season for a
• 1:50:37
  first-year, you know, just with the cupboard that was kind of
• 1:50:40
  left with the depth that, you know, there's, as I said
• 1:50:46
  earlier, there's pretty good 22. Orders.
• 1:50:49
  But after that, the depth kind of Wayne's.
• 1:50:52
  So there's not a ton of work with if you can get to a bowl
• 1:50:55
  game and and show that off to recruit guys in the transfer
• 1:51:00
  portal, that you might be interested in transferring to
• 1:51:03
  your program and in the spring or winter.
• 1:51:07
  You know, I think I think that is a good starting point for
• 1:51:10
  year one because you can say, hey look, you know, we didn't
• 1:51:15
  completely fall off the face of the Earth, it might be a A
• 1:51:18
  rebuilding year but we still had some success.
• 1:51:24
  John what are you? Yeah yeah I agree with him and
• 1:51:29
  go definitely bowl games went in the bowl.
• 1:51:31
  Game is big but I just wanted to not to be okay with losing man.
• 1:51:35
  I want to see a fire. You know what I mean?
• 1:51:37
  Like, I feel like last year many times, our players were kind of
• 1:51:40
  used to lose him and it was just, it was normal to lose and
• 1:51:43
  we saw a lot of guys, speaking of bowl game, we saw a lot of
• 1:51:46
  guys out the bowl game that never happened when I was
• 1:51:48
  playing, you know? So I think it's important that
• 1:51:51
  we that we bring that back this season.
• 1:51:54
  But I'll go with David Mann, making a bowl game this year.
• 1:51:58
  Grayson, I think making a bowl game, six and six, and you got
• 1:52:04
  to win one of the big three, and you gotta kick uva's ass beat,
• 1:52:08
  you beat UVA, and you win either Boston College, West, Virginia.
• 1:52:13
  And I'm going to say Miami when one of those preferably West
• 1:52:17
  Virginia, buv a makeable Dwight are you still with us?
• 1:52:23
  Yeah I am my bad. You're gonna you're good.
• 1:52:27
  So what's you know, what's what you successful season?
• 1:52:31
  I like David's Point that's why I left off at but I think if
• 1:52:35
  they can get to a bowl game also they can if they can win games
• 1:52:39
  that supposed to win. That is always been the knock on
• 1:52:43
  us since I was at Tech since before I got the tech but I'm
• 1:52:47
  part of that group, that kind of set everything off.
• 1:52:50
  And you look about all many teams that Tech that would have
• 1:52:53
  played for a national championship or what it went to
• 1:52:57
  a BCS Bowl Alliance bowl or a New Year, New Year's day, but we
• 1:53:02
  were always like a play here, you know, the Miami of Ohio, the
• 1:53:07
  temple games, it proc, and get us over that stigma.
• 1:53:11
  Winning the games were supposed to win.
• 1:53:15
  This is a 67 when team, because look at the schedule, I don't
• 1:53:19
  like doing. It because I know the schedule
• 1:53:21
  is tricky, no matter what season them, even Alabama's, you can't
• 1:53:24
  do that. But I feel like if there's a
• 1:53:27
  mindset where they can win games are supposed to win.
• 1:53:29
  Well, we're not like, man. How did we lose that game?
• 1:53:32
  I mean, you got the so many games, the Matt, Ryan's, all
• 1:53:36
  those different games. When you, like, man, we had that
• 1:53:38
  guy like you guys. Curtis.
• 1:53:40
  You just mentioned it died last year.
• 1:53:41
  Made last year. I was in Richmond.
• 1:53:43
  Watching the game on my phone, man.
• 1:53:45
  We were killing Notre Dame. We got that.
• 1:53:47
  Pick 6. We're up nine.
• 1:53:49
  And I'm like, we're going to beat Notre Dame and a prime-time
• 1:53:52
  game. This is perfect and bad clock
• 1:53:56
  management. Crazy plays and substitutions
• 1:54:00
  and then we lose the Syracuse game, again, we're killing them,
• 1:54:04
  I mean, and you give a big play, I mean, but you can go back to
• 1:54:07
  even when the full of brothers were there, we were in FedEx
• 1:54:10
  feeling. We lose that the last 20 seconds
• 1:54:12
  against Cincinnati. Yep.
• 1:54:14
  So, a proc can get us to a point where we can win games, were
• 1:54:16
  supposed to win. And I mean, what does that mean?
• 1:54:20
  Games when you're the better team because I think now you
• 1:54:23
  have what four or five games right there?
• 1:54:27
  Because I mean there's nobody on the schedule right now like
• 1:54:31
  usually the back especially when Jonathan McLaughlin was there
• 1:54:35
  during his era, they were playing like this, Alabama's the
• 1:54:39
  start this season, I mean they were playing because at that
• 1:54:42
  point Jonathan and them had they earned the right to do that.
• 1:54:45
  We put them in the position where they would now carrying
• 1:54:47
  the torch and they were playing those.
• 1:54:49
  Big kick-off, Chick-fil-A games, and they were ranked, and they
• 1:54:53
  were feature. And they deserved all that right
• 1:54:55
  now. I'm glad we're where we are.
• 1:54:56
  We need to Lady later, found the groundwork down and get back to
• 1:55:00
  that. So, if I could just showed me a
• 1:55:02
  competent football team, that knows what they're doing after a
• 1:55:04
  timeout and they win games mixed in with some trick plays, or
• 1:55:08
  some, some new wrinkles, and some not identity because again,
• 1:55:11
  having an identity. I think that's a recipe for a
• 1:55:14
  good season. I'm gonna go with what Grayson
• 1:55:17
  said. I love the way you put it.
• 1:55:18
  Grayson Go to a bowl game, beat UVA and be the big three.
• 1:55:24
  Hmm. Keep it, keep your, keep your
• 1:55:27
  keep your in-state rival where they've been for the last 20
• 1:55:30
  years. Make a statement will get to a
• 1:55:33
  bowl but to your point Dwight to I love what you're saying.
• 1:55:37
  I want like it when Don B and John we've all kind of made that
• 1:55:40
  point. When ODU decides they're going
• 1:55:43
  to come to Blacksburg again. They're walking in defeated.
• 1:55:46
  They like when we don't want to go play them, they gonna beat
• 1:55:48
  the shit out of us. We're gonna Go home hurt.
• 1:55:51
  That's the way I want it to be. I want teams that do not have
• 1:55:55
  the same level of players come in with a defeatist mentality.
• 1:55:59
  And, if we can get that, you went a lot of games by that
• 1:56:02
  alone because the other guy does not think they can compete
• 1:56:06
  walking through or walking into the stadium.
• 1:56:09
  All right, Brian. Let's hit one more with all
• 1:56:11
  these guys, I think I know where all you guys are going to land
• 1:56:14
  on this, but we're going to hit it up anyway, as I closing
• 1:56:16
  question, I think we've lost Mike with the kid but that It
• 1:56:20
  happens, we know, but for the three fathers on this call up
• 1:56:25
  top here. We know, we know, it's all good.
• 1:56:28
  I over under six and a half, that's what Vegas is putting us
• 1:56:31
  at. Let's go with where you're at
• 1:56:33
  Dwight over under six and a half.
• 1:56:36
  I got his over, man. All right, I got us over.
• 1:56:40
  I just I like the energy. I think we still a game with you
• 1:56:44
  man. I like, you know, especially I
• 1:56:47
  think we all touch on this grace and talked about this as well
• 1:56:49
  man. Just that first game against BC
• 1:56:52
  and Blacksburg is at night game. I think again you saw that last
• 1:56:56
  year with North Carolina, the our fan base, shout out to Hokie
• 1:57:00
  Nation. Everybody is watching this right
• 1:57:01
  now, fan base for decades has helped us win games.
• 1:57:04
  I know that sounds crazy because it's not now magic involved, but
• 1:57:08
  you give them a good. You give them a great product,
• 1:57:10
  they will support it, they will come, you know, say you build
• 1:57:12
  it, they will come. They will, they will come.
• 1:57:14
  And I think His do, I don't think it's, you know, this is an
• 1:57:18
  11 win team and nothing like that but I think you know the
• 1:57:21
  energy is right? I got it's over, I got us over,
• 1:57:24
  but I this is not nostalgic talking.
• 1:57:25
  This is more soldiers looking at as David and Mike broke down
• 1:57:29
  about their assessment. And I'm just looking at the
• 1:57:30
  teams we play. I mean, there's no giving
• 1:57:34
  against any team like he weathers UVA and all that.
• 1:57:37
  You know, you look at UVA game. There's been many times when we
• 1:57:40
  were clearly the better team and we only one like 24 to 21, so
• 1:57:44
  it's not like, you know, you just gonna blow Them out, but I
• 1:57:47
  just feel like you can win those games West, Virginia's, that
• 1:57:50
  winnable game. Boston College, the winnable
• 1:57:52
  game, you know, Pittsburgh is going to be tough.
• 1:57:54
  But I mean, it's not like, you know, other than when they had
• 1:57:56
  picket, it's not like they just put up 45 points.
• 1:57:59
  So I got us over. David David.
• 1:58:04
  Let's see it yet next. Yeah, I've got the over I think
• 1:58:10
  I've been somebody who has said for a while now, you know,
• 1:58:16
  having having covered the team getting a chance to cover brunt.
• 1:58:19
  Brian the spring and kind of learn more about his staff in
• 1:58:22
  the way they want to go about things.
• 1:58:24
  You know. Again, margins are slim but if
• 1:58:29
  Virginia Tech can stay healthy and we Can and Player
• 1:58:34
  Development is obvious. You can see guys getting better.
• 1:58:37
  I think this is a team that when can can win seven, maybe eight
• 1:58:43
  games. I don't think there's, I don't
• 1:58:46
  think there's any any game that's necessarily out of the
• 1:58:48
  question, you know. Maybe that's because you know,
• 1:58:52
  of the state of the ACC, just the state of Texas schedule.
• 1:58:56
  You know, I think Tech probably right now, if I would have to
• 1:58:59
  guess, I think Tech wins seven games Tech.
• 1:59:02
  No, I think that's a good number, you know, those Old
• 1:59:07
  Dominion Wofford Liberty. Those are three games you need
• 1:59:09
  to win, Virginia? That's a fourth Duke in Georgia
• 1:59:13
  Tech. That's two more.
• 1:59:14
  Okay. So which game are you going to
• 1:59:16
  steal? Or you know what other games you
• 1:59:19
  going to win? I don't think the schedules
• 1:59:20
  unfavorable, but I also think you have to have some luck as
• 1:59:23
  well. Luck's going to factor into it,
• 1:59:25
  but I think, overall, this is a team that I've got am winning
• 1:59:29
  seven games and I don't think, I don't think six.
• 1:59:32
  Wins. If Virginia Tech Megan, I said
• 1:59:34
  earlier, making a bowl game, that's a success.
• 1:59:38
  If you can win six games that success because there's going to
• 1:59:41
  be other factors that go into it, but as of now, I've got Tech
• 1:59:45
  7 wins. I've got the over All right,
• 1:59:50
  let's go to Mike mix as he feeds his child there.
• 1:59:59
  And what was it? That was pretty much right on
• 2:00:09
  the money. I mean, a lot of stuff needs to
• 2:00:13
  go right for it to be any higher than that.
• 2:00:15
  Realistically, with the roster, the depth issues in the trenches
• 2:00:17
  of sure. You guys have touched on.
• 2:00:19
  When I was stuck in a way for my computer for a few minutes
• 2:00:21
  offensive and defensive line depth.
• 2:00:24
  You know, I think is a major issue.
• 2:00:27
  It's an area where injuries crop up most often I do think Joe
• 2:00:33
  Rudolph gives the offensive line of fighting chance, but the
• 2:00:36
  defensive line is where I have a lot of concerns.
• 2:00:39
  If you're looking at like You know, are you going to be able
• 2:00:42
  to get after the quarterback consistently once you get past
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  the starters? Like, that's a huge question.
• 2:00:47
  I have Playmakers on the outside.
• 2:00:50
  I'm still not sure what we have in terms of like proven depth
• 2:00:55
  are. I know there's a lot of talented
• 2:00:56
  young guys were all really excited about, but we got to see
• 2:00:59
  it on the field first. So there there are a lot of
• 2:01:02
  questions with this roster but there's a lot of questions, like
• 2:01:06
  I mentioned earlier, a lot of questions with the rest of the
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  ACC to and I think The schedule, the way it shakes out, there's a
• 2:01:14
  lot of winnable games on the schedule, even for a team that's
• 2:01:17
  rebuilding. So I'm Lehman seven and five at
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  the I think if you know you're going to bet a six and a half
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  way Mark, I think you bet on. Brent parent is Staff figuring
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  it out and year one and kind of getting a long call it, a dead
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  cat bounce because that's usually what ends up happening
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  when you have to coach going out the door.
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  But, you know, I think prying his staff.
• 2:01:37
  They're going to be able to get more out of this roster than
• 2:01:40
  Fuente was able to get Have more talented?
• 2:01:42
  Rosters? That makes sense?
• 2:01:43
  I just think the coaching staff is going to be a lot better.
• 2:01:45
  I think it's going to put the players in a lot better
• 2:01:47
  position, even though this is far from the most talented team
• 2:01:50
  profile at this time here. All right, John.
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  I'll let you go next. I'm going over as well.
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  They got the ability to be 3 and know going into West Virginia.
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  And I really believe that I think we can definitely go
• 2:02:05
  through it. All going to West Virginia.
• 2:02:07
  That's a big time game. Didn't get were for now then
• 2:02:09
  we're going to roll, you know, that's how the seasons work.
• 2:02:11
  You know, you get on their role, you keep going, you get better
• 2:02:14
  and better. So that's that's the first three
• 2:02:16
  games right there. And then we have a challenge in
• 2:02:18
  West Virginia and then you got the ACC, but then you got
• 2:02:21
  Georgia. Tech Duke Liberty.
• 2:02:22
  That's six. I'm already called it.
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  So in between there, you're going to get two or three.
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  More without them. So you can see exactly steal at
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  least one, right? I never going to feel these one
• 2:02:34
  or two. So I'm going.
• 2:02:35
  I'm going over. All right, Grayson based on,
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  y'all gonna hate me. But based on what I don't know
• 2:02:43
  about this coaching staff. I'm taking the under based on
• 2:02:48
  these last five years alone. I know it's a new regime but I
• 2:02:52
  just I'm just taking. I'm taking the under.
• 2:02:55
  I got us at six and six. You know, 50/50, but I just NC
• 2:03:01
  State the Miami game. Even do q&c and Georgia Tech.
• 2:03:06
  Even those games worry me, you just never know, like Coastal
• 2:03:10
  chaos, it just never ever know it's complete toss-up, but if
• 2:03:15
  we, if we can start the season 3 and 0 and we start the season 3
• 2:03:19
  and 0, we get that BC. When I could see his winning
• 2:03:21
  seven games for right now, I am taking the under who who, who
• 2:03:25
  Who's Got BC guy coming back. Huda coming back at quarterback.
• 2:03:29
  Your guy who burned? Yeah, the guy burned us last
• 2:03:32
  year the second string. Get filled your kovich or
• 2:03:37
  whatever. Who made us look stupid.
• 2:03:39
  Yeah, I mean yeah not how I was playing with a broken hand last
• 2:03:44
  year and still get dvorak's. Yeah.
• 2:03:49
  All tactile Tech needs to do is when literally three games in
• 2:03:54
  September September and October total three games.
• 2:03:57
  Because there they should go undefeated in November, right?
• 2:04:02
  Like okay, closing stretches, Georgia, Tech Duke, Liberty
• 2:04:05
  Virginia. The best team there is probably
• 2:04:08
  UVA and Liberty, but Liberty lost a lot.
• 2:04:11
  I mean, Georgia Tech and do or they can have five wins between
• 2:04:14
  the two of them maybe not, right.
• 2:04:16
  So I mean you could go for a now and November literally win three
• 2:04:20
  games. The first two months, you should
• 2:04:22
  hit 70, you know. I understand Grayson's paying
• 2:04:24
  because he would Grayson, I'm a therapist you guys I'm lights.
• 2:04:27
  The next problem. That's why don't blame Greece
• 2:04:32
  him because I did it because I know what Grace is going through
• 2:04:36
  because I told people man after I sat in that rainstorm, we gave
• 2:04:40
  that game away to Cincinnati in the Military Bowl.
• 2:04:43
  I could I was I was never coming back, I was a scorned lover.
• 2:04:47
  I sat there with what you if you ever had wet socks and I was
• 2:04:51
  there, my whole family. I was told you, I'm too big to
• 2:04:53
  be that stove, bro. And I was like, yo, I'm done.
• 2:04:57
  We gave the game away. I am excited about the game
• 2:05:11
  because we're going to know out the gate.
• 2:05:14
  What kind of team we got? Obviously teams need to get
• 2:05:16
  better to get worse so I don't want to make too much of.
• 2:05:19
  We went 45 to 10, I don't want to get carried away because we
• 2:05:22
  got some things to be talking about playoff runs, but if we
• 2:05:25
  look confident and we're in tents, and Flying around.
• 2:05:28
  I'm going to be and when that gang I'll take it, I'm gonna
• 2:05:32
  jump in here real quick because I like I like Dwight's point.
• 2:05:35
  I like Grayson's point. I like the things that make said
• 2:05:38
  as well but where I'm going is kind of a little bit of what
• 2:05:42
  Dwight said a little bit, what Grayson said.
• 2:05:44
  So and kind of going back to what, Dwight's?
• 2:05:46
  The previous question, take care of the winnable game.
• 2:05:49
  So we've got in theory, six, winnable games on our schedule.
• 2:05:52
  Yep, very winnable games. So, if we can take care of those
• 2:05:57
  Those. And then, as John said, steal
• 2:06:00
  one or two, that gives us the over.
• 2:06:02
  So, my hope, my heart's in, I think we can get the over.
• 2:06:06
  Now, my mind saying, is that if we're not undefeated or close to
• 2:06:10
  it getting to October, it could get a rough stretch for a while
• 2:06:16
  there, and we need to see how we respond to that adversity going
• 2:06:21
  into those winnable matchups down the stretch.
• 2:06:24
  We don't want to let games in October, dictate how?
• 2:06:27
  How we play, and how we respond to these more winnable games
• 2:06:31
  that are coming in November? Yeah, I'm going to just stick it
• 2:06:35
  at this. I'm over six and a half.
• 2:06:38
  That's it. I'm over six and a half.
• 2:06:40
  I hope in a couple weeks here. Me and Brian are gonna be doing
• 2:06:43
  a preview Brian. A few weeks ago, told me he was
• 2:06:47
  going to be under. So y'all are clearly changing
• 2:06:50
  this man's mind about what he thinks this season is going to
• 2:06:53
  be, I'm over right now because it is, some optimism is thinking
• 2:06:59
  about I just keep looking at games last year that were that
• 2:07:03
  close and we're better at the quarterback position.
• 2:07:06
  We downgraded it wider. Receiver, we've upgraded it
• 2:07:09
  offensive line coach. We have a lot of cord defense
• 2:07:12
  coming back. And you're going to a scheme,
• 2:07:17
  say what you will, this is a scheme, these players were
• 2:07:21
  recruited for this is a scheme. These players were recruited for
• 2:07:27
  no, knock on J Hamm, but we were trying to do some different
• 2:07:29
  things that's going to be a big piece that the systems with
• 2:07:35
  these guys are supposed to play in because it's would buds crew.
• 2:07:38
  All right, we're going to make one quick announcement.
• 2:07:40
  We're going to wrap it up here. Starting two weeks from Night
• 2:07:45
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• 2:07:51
  Not Wednesday only going to be doing it once a week.
• 2:07:56
  Me and the big guy here, our professional lives have been
• 2:08:02
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• 2:08:05
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• 2:08:08
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• 2:08:11
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• 2:08:14
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• 2:08:16
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• 2:08:22
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• 2:08:25
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• 2:08:28
  All you guys that David my I know what you're talking about,
• 2:08:31
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• 2:08:34
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• 2:08:35
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• 2:08:38
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• 2:08:40
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• 2:09:04
  So I appreciate y'all know for real man.
• 2:09:07
  You know, like his great to have great content.
• 2:09:09
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• 2:09:12
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• 2:09:14
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• 2:09:17
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• 2:09:19
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• 2:09:22
  finally man, like, as far as the season, I'm glad I got you guys
• 2:09:25
  in lean on me. I can't take anymore.
• 2:09:28
  ODU, Liberty losses. I can't.
• 2:09:31
  I'm holding, I can't take it. I can't take it, bro.
• 2:09:34
  I need some wins. I can't.
• 2:09:45
  You almost broke you, it broke, you Liberty?
• 2:09:49
  Come on, bro, we speak. Speaking of dads everybody.
• 2:09:53
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• 2:09:57
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• 2:10:00
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• 2:10:04
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• 2:10:06
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• 2:10:14
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• 2:10:17
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• 2:10:19
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• 2:10:21
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• 2:10:25
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• 2:10:29
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• 2:12:32
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