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RVIVR · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's the program, the podcast, where we try to get you into a
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band. That's right.
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We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is press play
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and listen. My name is Justin and you can
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call me band curious because I am indeed curious about bands
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and I like to get my friends together and talk to them about
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the bands that they like and why they like them.
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And in the process, we come up with a top 10 starter kit list
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for you to get into the band as well.
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And today I feel, you know, I have John listed this first.
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I can't remember if this because I know this is also kind of a
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continuation of the camp of bands that we've been doing.
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Like this is something that came off the Ladderman split if I
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recall correctly right, John. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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It's a, it's in the family. It's related.
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So talk to me about Reviver. And I mean, obviously that's our
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first step there is, hey, we're we've been talking about this
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family, let's get on it. But like, what's the next step
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of of why we had to cover Reviver?
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Yeah. So you know, in the latterman
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episode we talked about, you know, how influential they were
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as a band to the kind of punk scene around that time.
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And like we talked about in the Iron Chic episode, there was
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kind of a void when they broke up.
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It was like this kind of orga core quote UN quote thing was
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kind of falling apart. And when it when it came out
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that Maddie was going to start a new band, a lot of people like,
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oh, here we go, like this is going to be the next thing.
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And so they had a lot of like, I hate using the word hype when
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you talk about punk bands, but there was a lot of excitement
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for like what was going to be next.
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And then for me, it was like, you know, I think Chris, you
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talked about you were more of an Iron Chic fan For me, I was all
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in on Revivor. Like I, I was, you know, I had
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that that first record came out. It was all the time and was just
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a huge fan. Knowing those guys a little bit
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and having played with them and just being a being a into it.
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It was like just excited for what was going to come next.
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And you know, moving out to the West Coast and hooking up with
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Erica, who's an amazing singer and vocalist in her own right.
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I think she's done a couple of solo, at least one solo album
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that I know of. But her voice just had so much
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to to what they do. And just you can tell like the
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where Letterman spit, like we talked about with Iron Chic had
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these like these big melodic hooks and like all this stuff is
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there. And like the the Matty side
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Reviver has these big choruses and these big sing alongs like
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all that stuff is here. So I was just, I was super
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excited and like I, I never got a chance to see him.
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Unfortunately, they were based out in the Pacific Northwest, so
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they didn't get a chance to come down here very often, if if
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ever. But I always kept up with them
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and followed him. And like whenever they put out a
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new record or a new EPA. Oh yeah, can't wait.
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Can't wait to hear it. So Chris, you know, we we've
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already mentioned like this is part of the family.
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So obviously again, yeah, this is that's part of why we're
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we're talking about them. But what makes you jump on board
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for this one when you've already stated that you're kind of more
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Iron Cheek? Oh no, I mean, Reviver is
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amazing. I I think the coolest thing
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about it is that they had a artistic direction that they
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stated when they started the band and they kept that going.
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I mean, they're not they're totally not done, but they
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they're very, they're they're much less active than they were
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in like, you know, like 2017, oh, 2007.
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But like they came in, they said we need I like Maddie said, I
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feel like the politically charged lyrics I was singing in
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Letterman got ignored by, you know, like juicy people that
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just get drunk and want to slam dance or whatever.
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And we're going to put the views and ideals and raising voices of
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and like bringing awareness to other communities at the
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forefront of this project. And they did it in a way that's
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accessible and in a way that is intelligent.
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And the most important thing is they wrote fucking awesome
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songs. And like, like to to your point
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you just made sometimes genuinely throughout the
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entirety of their discography, there are moments where Erica
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will come into a song and it is just the most incredibly
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powerful vocal delivery that sticks with you.
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And and like, like particularly in the second full length beauty
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between. I just think she has an entirely
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perfect showing vocally on that record.
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I, I can't think of a performance frozen in time that
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was more of an effect on me in the last, you know, 20 years or
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whatever it might be. So again, you know, I kind of
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knew what to expect going in just because we we've talked
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about so many of these bands kind of just around this band
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going in. But you never know until you hit
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play like how how close to, you know, the chest you're going to
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end up having to play it, How, how close it's going to get to
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your, your, your well, like how, how much of A Justin band is it
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going to be? But I had a blast listening to
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this band. Like it was, I'm always hesitant
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to use the word easy, but like, it's just such an easy listen.
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Like I, I blasted through the 1st pass and just like, yeah,
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fuck fucking a right. Like, you know, it was just
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amped. I was amped to listen to them.
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So like, again, hesitant to say the word easy, but like that's
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the best way to describe it was that this was just an easy
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listen. And I mean, of course the
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gameplay side will always be, you know, difficult to a point.
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But like it made me excited to talk to you guys about like
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about the band and and kind of even though I know surface level
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why you guys like them, kind of like nail in on some of the
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reasons. So I mean, this isn't like a
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huge discography, John, again, I feel like you had this at the
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ready. Like right after we did Iron
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Chic, 44 songs. I mean, we get half the
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discography. Does that make it any easier?
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A little bit like it allows you to kind of like take for me and
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Chris mentioned the, you know, the beauty between it allows you
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to kind of like cheat a little bit and take a lot from one
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record which you normally do. So that was that was helpful.
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So Chris, like when you when you're putting together 20 for
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this, is this like a, is there like a method to the madness or
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did you just kind of go with what you liked?
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John, I think you hit it again. This was a, a thing where like I
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think I said to you guys, when we first said we'd do it, I
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could be ready really quickly, But I have to listen to the
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first record again and the old EPS because like since beauty
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between came out, it's been on constant rotation for me.
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I, I that never left my diet of music listening since 2013 when
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it came out. And I think in this instance
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their their discography is so solid from front to back,
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including the stuff they did after Beauty between.
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But I didn't feel bad taking a lot from it because it's not to
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disparage their other work. It's very much like Lifetime in
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that respect, right? How I was like, oh, the first
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record, I'm not going to take anything from it, but I love
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that record. This is the same thing where
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it's like it's not necessarily that they falter anywhere.
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It's that that record is just a a distilled piece of genius punk
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Rock, You know, So it wasn't difficult, I would say, but I
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just, I did something that I normally would feel guilty and I
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and I didn't feel guilty. Well, I mean hearing this, it
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does make me feel guilty because I feel like when I'm putting
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together my list, I I evened out.
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I feel like I came away the same as you guys did.
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I feel like on my listen, I feel like my first pass had a lot of
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the beauty between and I think I cut it down to like 4 and I
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think I allowed the first one a little bit more because it had a
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little looks like it's only 12 songs.
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I don't know. And you know, to your point
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about it, it it's a deep discography.
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Like yes, it's only 44 songs, but like it really easily could
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be most of these 44 songs could be on our list.
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So I was actually reading up on the Joester sessions.
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I think I do have a good handful of ease, which was like an
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original bass player or drummer I I can't remember.
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That was the engineer. Oh, that's.
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Right. The guy they they, they, they
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recorded everything with the same guy named Joe.
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And so these these were like basically just EPS that kind of
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got put together as got presented as a as an album, I
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think is what I read. Yeah, it's the, it's the first 3
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EPS. OK, there we go.
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OK. But that being said, like I
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now's the time. Usually I would wait until like
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we've played a little to kind of point out, you know, hey, you
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should just listen to all of it. If you hear these two guys
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talking and you've heard, heard and gotten into the bands that
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we've done before, just go ahead and do the dive.
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It's only two hours and 16 minutes.
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Yes. Finish listening to this
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episode. Yes, see which 10 we come away
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with. But I guarantee if you like any
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of those other bands, you'll like this.
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Not to say that they're the same, but it's in the same
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family. Literally, if you like anything
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about Ladderman, just stop what you're doing and go for the
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song. So I mean this again, we, we
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every time you're on these days, John, we talk about the math
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here, like the math maths, but like that also doesn't mean that
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it's going to be smooth sailing. Yeah.
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And yeah, when we did Big Black the other night, it was kind of
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similar. So I think I'm going to go with
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my stick in that same Harry. I'm gonna go 5, yeah.
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We had we had, we had stuck around that 5 for a good while.
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What do you? Yeah.
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This is a this is a tough one. I, I, I honestly don't know
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because of, I have a lot of trouble with the bands that have
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no holes in their discography. I always think it means that
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we're gonna be close, but it always ends up being the
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opposite. So I'm gonna go for.
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I'm not gonna feel good about it.
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Yeah, well, I almost pulled it off.
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You just talked about the big Black episode.
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I almost pulled it off. Like for as far away as we all
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were, we still ended up with 7, right?
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And I picked 8. What do you think about Big
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Black? By the way, Justin, I'd not not
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to cut you off. I mean if you really want to
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know we can dive into that on the after the fact.
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I like them all is the short answer.
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OK, I I am curious. I like them as the short.
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Answer I I I will give you my takes.
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OK. There you go, stick around
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everyone. I know you're burning to know
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how I feel. Yes, after the fact.
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It only costs you a buck to get in the door.
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So well, you know, following following the lead of Big Black,
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I'm going to go with 7 here and you know, air on the side of
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positivity, I think is what I'm going to do.
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So we're going to take a quick pause and on the other side of
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it, we are going to play the game.
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It's the program, Jack. And with that, the name of the
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game is deprogrammed. The three of us have come
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through the Reviver discography and plucked out 20 songs that
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are now going to mash together in an attempt to create a top 10
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starter kit for you. In case you have never heard of
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Reviver, which is possible, I suppose, even though it's kind
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of come up in conversation a couple times.
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I'm going to start with, Oh, well, I actually do have like 5
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or 6 from Beauty Between. I'm going to start on Beauty
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Between because like we all have said, I think that's my
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favorite. I'm going to go the, I'm going
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to go the easy way out. How about the scene?
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Absolutely. Yep.
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There we go. That was my last ad actually.
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Oh, everybody at this point knows Justin's a track one guy,
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even though I've gotten better at not just picking track ones.
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Hold on, but come on, come on. Computer there's there's there's
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something about the way that that intro starts and like they
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I, it's, it's also the jump up in quality from the early
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recordings to like, oh, we made a real record here.
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It's in the and it kind of has that in the beginning for me.
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It gets you. It just still gets me excited
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every time I put it on. Every time the freaking needle
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hits it, I'm just like, Ah, let's go.
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That's exactly it. You said exactly like it it, it
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felt like a big age up. It felt like like we levelled up
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here. We've done a real record and
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we've, you know, maybe put a little money into it, but
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definitely put a little time into it.
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And again, not to take anything away from anything prior to
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that, but like, I don't know, I like a little Polish sometimes.
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And I I love when you can tell that we love this.
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And here it is. Yeah.
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Have at it. So all right, boom.
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The scene is in John. Yeah, So I want to talk about
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the Beauty Between for a minute because like we didn't mention
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this up top, but Reviver, they are kind of a queer band like
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Maggie Joe is is a trans woman. And I think there's a lot of
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similarities to another band that was bigger, which talk
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about Against Me where Laura came out and these records came
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out around the same time. The Beauty Between came out I
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think in 2013 and Transgender Dysphoria Blues by Against Me
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came out in early 2014. And I think like, like obviously
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the Against Me record is very like direct as far as dealing
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with those issues and what she was going through as far as
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coming out. And I and I don't know exactly
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when Maddie Joe went public with that.
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I I I looked for a second, I couldn't find it, but I
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actually. Could find out right now on OK,
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I have a specific way, I'll tell you that.
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Well, then, then I will stall for time.
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There's there's. I think this record has a lot
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more like deep meaning than. 2016, you're right on you.
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Realize 2016 so. Yeah, you're right.
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On yeah yeah so around the same time, but like not at the time
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of this record but I know that you know you you you guys know
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people obviously you know that that's a that's a lifelong
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struggle and I'm sure these issues were coming for.
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I know Erica, I know the other people in the band I think
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identify as as queer LGBTQ. So I think like and you think
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the title like the beauty between like the beauty between
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like between what between male and female, between this and
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this like I think a lot of that stuff is present lot of survival
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and. Stuff.
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Digs for it and I think it's yeah, I think it's just really
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beautiful as like a piece of art.
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And I think that's the reason, like, it sticks with a lot of
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people when they hear it and like it.
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Feels. It really rewards repeated
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listening. Go ahead.
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Piggyback. Yeah, No, I was gonna piggyback
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off what you said. Like I, I think it actually
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feels like a concept album about surviving against the odds.
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Like every song kind of tells the story of how through like a
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relentless pursuit of just being allowed to exist, we can survive
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anything. You know, like just reminding
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yourself over and over again that you are valid and your
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existence is completely allowed to be.
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And that's what every song essentially on this record is
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about. But always approaching it from a
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different point of view. It's a really good point then.
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It really is. Yeah.
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And like when you listen to it, I think like you can hear the
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like the the turmoil, like the struggle, like you said, you can
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hear it in these songs. And I think like not it, it
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really has something special. I think it's been it's been
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criminally underrated. I don't think it gets as much do
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as it should. With all that said, I'm gonna
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pick my favorite song from it, which is wrong way one way.
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Yeah, I got it. Hell yeah.
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We'd be completely wrong to not have that.
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That is such an incredible song. And it's, it's couldn't, it
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couldn't exemplify more what you were just talking about.
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Yeah, you. Know what I?
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Love. Also just a brilliant little pop
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song. You know what I love is like, I
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didn't clock any of what you said because I often often times
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I unfortunately can't unless it's like very.
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Very direct. I mean, yeah, I mean, I've been
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listening. We've been listening to this
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record for nearly 20 years. Like it.
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You have to sit with it and really dig into it, but it's
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there. But yeah, exactly like it.
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It's spoke to me in a way that I couldn't express.
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And I think you just gave me the answer is like, I, not that I
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love hearing about somebody struggling, but I love that they
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found a way to tell, use their struggle and make something
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beautiful. I that you know, again, I, I, I
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don't want to say makes me happy, but it it does make me
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feel good that the album that should have stuck out did stick
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out to me for for all the fucking reasons, like for every
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right reason. So that's it just makes me feel
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feel good. So sorry.
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Yeah, that that song, by the way, is the one.
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Oh, no, that. I mean, yeah, just you make it
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like I was fortunate enough to to like cross paths with Maddie
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Joe and Large and Grace in my punk rock days.
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And like, when you hear that, like, and I doubt those days are
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gone. Like I, I don't, you know, I
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don't keep up with them anymore. But when you, when I heard
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about, you know, the transition, I was like, man, I just hope
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that they're happy now. You know, like you just, you
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cross paths with these people and like you, you meet them and
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you play shows with them and like you have this kinship of
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punk rock and all this stuff and you just like, man, I just hope
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that they like. Found like what they were
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looking for, you know? Absolutely.
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Absolutely. That that is that's also the the
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wrong way. One way is the tune where when
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Erica comes in, I think it's one of the best vocal deliveries
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ever. Like I like her coming in for
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her. The second verse.
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There is literally a moment I might think about daily since
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this record came out. It's that powerful to me.
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And I'll say this to you. I've been struggling with
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whether or not I'm going to tell this story, but we're kind of on
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the topic, so I'll tell it. The the reason I remembered
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about Maddie coming out is because there was a big
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controversy about a really stupid April Fool's joke on punk
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news that kind of outed her. And it was, it was horrific.
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It was terrible. And I, I think the person who
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wrote it is long gone. So it's not even worth, you know
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what I mean? But they made a joke about like
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how they've changed their name to Ladder person and they're
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reuniting. It was so bad.
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It was so fucking stupid. And I and I, I just got I, I
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reactivated my Facebook that I had to deactivate because I had
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a friend on a reality show and I had to get rid of all my socials
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because I was on their list to be able to visit them.
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And I fucking broke an NDA on reactivated my Facebook, got on,
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sent Maddie message. Like, listen, you don't know me.
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I've been listening to your music since I was a little kid
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and going to see your bands play since I was a little kid.
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And I just want to say fuck them.
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Fuck the fact that they decide to pick on you to get clicks,
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and then the next time one of your bands does something,
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they're going to also put that shit up to get clicks.
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Fuck them. Fuck them to hell.
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You're the best. I love you.
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And I got back the most honest and beautiful message from
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Maddie. And then at the Ladderman
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reunion at the Knitting Factory in Brooklyn, Maddie stopped,
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found me and gave me the biggest hug for it.
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So cheers to Maddie, you're one of the greats and I loved your
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music. I mean, I'm I'm gonna go with
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another song from that record that's filled LNZ Yeah man.
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I got it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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I I don't know man, like. Yeah, I, I don't think I sorry,
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I don't think I knew like I, I wasn't on punk news at that
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time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But like that, that that Chris Gethard show performance that I
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linked when we first started this, I'm that was, I remember
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watching that and being like, oh, like there's, there's a
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skirt and lipstick and like that the hat pulled down real tight.
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Like he was kind of like, not real confident then, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Like that there that this person
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is going through something right now.
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Like you could tell there was like there were all kinds of
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emotions in that performance. Absolutely.
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Well, I don't want to leave the beauty between, but I'd like to
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save something. We might as well.
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It's going to be. Three hours of an episode.
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To save some for later. Well, you know, here's a here's
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a spot where I'll do the thing because the thing it obviously
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it didn't do it enough for me to like lead with it, but it did do
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them enough of the thing made me excited to listen to this band.
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So I'm going to start right at the top.
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How about rain down? Yeah, no, I I thought I had
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that. I guess I don't.
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Why don't I have rained down? I should have rained down.
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Justin, that's a bullshit one. I'm sorry.
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I meant to put that. OK.
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That's a that's a great song. I I feel foolish.
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I honestly do. Well, you know, again, you know,
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it's not always a guarantee that I'm going to have it, but like,
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sometimes it this song just got me excited to listen to this
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band so. That's an awesome song all.
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Right. I'll take that one and we will
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move on, John all. Right I'll I didn't pick rain
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down, but I did pick the next one.
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How about Edge of Living? Yeah, I got it.
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I have that as well that that 10 is looking good all.
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Right, Chris? I'm gonna go with the EP after
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In Between, which is so you want to talk about Criminally
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Underrated? That record is like a
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continuation of the idea they started with the In Between.
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The unfortunate thing is that it's half the length.
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My favorite song on that is Goodbyes.
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Yeah, I got it. Yep.
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Hell yeah. Oh, all right, let me find it at
24:58
the bottom here. Goodbyes 1 2.
25:06
It's my favorite song in a very, very, very good EP.
25:10
I think on my first pass I had all of bicker and breathe.
25:15
I mean, obviously. The the VP, Yeah, yeah.
25:18
Yeah, I think you I. Mean you could you could put all
25:22
all 5 songs. Yeah, I I would have no problem
25:24
with that. If I would have had a little bit
25:27
more time to kind of like shape around like apparently I could
25:31
have left off rain down, but. No, it's good to be talked about
25:39
it. It's a really good song.
25:40
Hey, 5 out of 6 unanimous guys. Yeah, that's crazy.
25:44
Yeah. No, wait here.
25:46
Goodbyes is Chris. So we're back around to me
25:49
already. Wowzers.
25:50
Mctavish. All right, boom, boom, boom,
25:58
boom, boom. All right, I'll try out a Juicer
26:01
Sessions one. How about had enough of this
26:05
hell? I do hey.
26:11
Put it on the board. See this is the other thing I I
26:16
thought could happen. Here is just nailing it.
26:22
I can't remember if Dirty Water was the debut, I'm trying to
26:25
look it up right now. I I think that was the debut EP.
26:29
No, it wasn't. Life Moves was Dirty Water was
26:31
actually the the third release, so that's from 2010.
26:36
There's just a lot of great songs here.
26:38
It's really going to hurt when. Yeah.
26:41
Stuff starts going in the bin, but something's going to have
26:45
to. All right.
26:46
Where are we already at six? I'm into that.
26:51
All right, John. All right, I'm going to try
26:56
something that even came after the Bicker and Breathey Bee.
26:59
How about the Tide, which is the last thing they've released to
27:03
date? I got it.
27:05
I don't well. We'll take a two there.
27:08
It's it's it's solid as hell though.
27:12
Take a 2 there. That's that's well, I I would
27:16
say that's looking good. But we there's still, I mean, we
27:20
only have we. Actually have.
27:22
Four more spots left, so yeah. Yeah.
27:24
Yeah, exactly. All right, Chris.
27:28
I How about the other half of that EPI took Shaggy?
27:35
Nope. I got them both, Yep.
27:39
Hey, yeah, OK, cool. I just like it better.
27:40
They're both great songs. Yeah, I have no, no thoughts on
27:48
on. I think it was literally just
27:50
like I should only take one, not both.
27:52
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me.
27:54
So. Not to me.
27:55
I took both of them. Wait.
27:56
Yeah, All right, back to me. Well, shoot, we've kind of
28:05
covered everything, haven't we? I think we're missing something
28:11
from the debut EP from Life Moves.
28:14
Oh, OK. See, I wouldn't know where that
28:15
break is because that's including the joister, right?
28:20
What order do they put them in? I'll give you a little hint
28:23
here. I think it might even be all
28:24
mixed mixed up. Oh yeah, it is actually a little
28:28
bit, yeah. Great.
28:29
Well, you know what? Let's let's look at the title
28:33
track. I was going to say.
28:35
This has to be on Life Moves, doesn't it?
28:37
The name of the song is Life Moves.
28:41
And I do have that as well. I do as well.
28:45
There you go. We think we've hit every
28:46
release. Just easily like that too.
28:50
That's the. Crazy.
28:51
Yeah, dude, it's crazy. Yeah.
28:52
Without any kind of resistance. All right, hold on.
29:02
Chris, this reminds me like I don't think we talked about it.
29:05
Do you have the Liferox CD that? I don't.
29:09
I don't. Have you heard it?
29:11
No. What is it?
29:13
It's it's like an acoustic ECD that he did with this other guy
29:20
named Ian who was like, I forget what band he was in, but they
29:24
made like an acoustic album and like he gave me a copy of it.
29:29
I have the CD somewhere. That's it if you want, Yeah.
29:33
Yeah, Well, I'd love to hear that.
29:34
Yeah. Really good.
29:35
Yeah, well. All right, just like that.
29:39
We're at 7, John, and it is your turn.
29:43
Man, OK, I'm going to go back to the beauty between How about the
29:48
Hunger Suite 1? Go away.
29:52
I love that some somebody had it because I don't.
29:56
OK, I chose not to include any of the Suite I It was the
30:01
hardest part of my choice making, but that's how I forced
30:04
myself to put more stuff from other records.
30:06
It was just the IT was just an arbitrary thing.
30:07
I decided all three of those songs rule.
30:11
So. I don't think I need to say
30:12
yeah. To add to your point, Chris, I
30:14
did the same thing, but because not necessarily because I didn't
30:18
want, you know, to even out, but more so like I thought they were
30:23
all worthy. I wanted all three.
30:25
And if I and I just didn't know how to voice it, yeah, 100%.
30:28
Right. And I feel like if I took all
30:31
three, then I'm taking too much space on my list.
30:34
I mean, I could have, we had like 46 songs on Pink Floyd so
30:38
that, I mean, it is my show. I could have made the rules.
30:40
I could have said that, hey, we're taking all three, but I
30:43
didn't want to take up the three spots.
30:45
So that's that's why I didn't. All right, Chris.
30:52
I guess I, I was just thinking about what you were saying.
30:55
We like doing no effects and like not putting the decline,
30:58
but I, it's fine. I, I, I should have put it is I
31:01
guess what I'm trying to say. Let's do my first.
31:06
Did I do anything from the self help yet?
31:07
I don't think it did. How about cut the cord?
31:09
Yeah, I got it. No.
31:13
OK, one. 2:00 We'll take another two there.
31:19
All right, man, there's actually still plenty out here for me to
31:29
pick. All right, how about I try
31:34
something else from Bicker and Breathe?
31:36
How about 20 below? Absolutely.
31:44
Yep, I got it. Absolutely rules that song.
31:49
And just like that, the pressure is off me and we scoot right up
31:53
to 8 boys. There you go.
31:56
Boys. That's it, and I bet there's a
31:58
couple more. I.
32:00
Think we actually could have? Hit 13 as the yeah.
32:04
I get this backwards every time. Every time I think it's going to
32:07
be close I I guess wrong and I'm wrong.
32:10
I've still got 10 left, yeah. I have.
32:13
What do I have? Scene was the first thing you
32:16
said, right? Add 10 left as well.
32:17
We have probably the same 10 songs, yeah.
32:23
Let's see, Let me make sure I've got this marked correctly, and
32:26
then it will be John's turn. All right, John.
32:33
OK, how about change on me? Yeah.
32:39
Last track, Yes Sir, yes Sir. Wow, it's like I said, same 10
32:44
songs. Well, I think initially it made
32:51
my first pass because I know John's the last track guy.
32:54
And when I came back to it on my second pass, I was like, Oh no,
32:58
no, this like has a legit chance.
33:00
And when I came back on the third time, I was like, Oh no,
33:03
this has to be on my list. So I mean, I, I looked at that 6
33:09
minutes 16 and I'm like, uh oh, like.
33:13
Right, right, right, right and. They fill this out.
33:17
And I think that's what they're strongest at is like high
33:19
concept, like high concept is their whole thing.
33:22
It's like they're just insanely good at it.
33:24
Like like the the entire band had a high concept.
33:27
So you know. Boys, let's mark that and Chris
33:35
it's. Your turn.
33:37
I will go with the first song from Dirty Waters, Steven.
33:43
Yeah, I got. It you're not gonna believe
33:47
this, but I have it as well. Yeah, to to me, that song is the
33:52
like the blueprint for Reviver. Like that to me, like that was
33:55
the first tune that they really found the sound.
33:57
I know it's only on their second release, but they got, I think
34:01
they were just a fully formed unit that fast, you know?
34:08
Man, that puts us at 10. Anything we get after this, we
34:13
have we're gonna have to cut. Like we're I've never been, I've
34:15
never been on a show where this happens.
34:17
I know. Yeah, me neither.
34:19
Yeah, wow. I mean, it's happened.
34:21
It's happened a good handful of times, but.
34:24
I'm sure. Yeah, yeah.
34:26
Is what Bruno Mars is still the most?
34:30
No, I think we did 14 on Jimi Hendrix.
34:33
I think it was 14. Whoa.
34:35
Yeah, really. Yeah.
34:37
That he's got a massive discography.
34:38
That's crazy. Well, we only did the
34:42
experience, so it was like just the three records, so.
34:45
Oh copy, that makes way more sense.
34:47
OK. We didn't do banded gypsies or
34:49
anything else, we just did. But yeah, wow, OK, we're back
34:55
around to me, eh? I mean I feel like let's what do
34:58
I got left 1/2 34567 I've got 7. I mean I feel like we only do 2
35:06
rounds and then dump out even though we still have a lot left.
35:12
You're the boss guy. Let's see, how about Spider
35:20
song? Yes, absolutely.
35:26
That's that's the next one I was going to play.
35:28
Yeah, I love. That I, I, I wasn't sure if we
35:31
would consider that an Eric Afreea song or not.
35:33
But if you haven't heard it yet, Justin, go find the solo version
35:36
she put out of that. It's, it's got a completely
35:40
different vibe, completely different vibe and it's it works
35:44
just as well. Boys, we're officially gonna
35:48
have to cut a song. There you go.
35:51
Not Spider Song. We ain't cutting that, no.
35:55
Flock. Flock it in.
35:58
All. Right, Spider song is in and
36:00
we're at 11, John. All right, how about breathe out
36:08
going back? To the morning.
36:10
Yep. I think we found one I don't
36:13
have hold. On OK, there you go.
36:17
Well, it's out then. It doesn't have a shot, but.
36:19
OK. I know, right?
36:21
Isn't that crazy? Yeah, yeah.
36:25
All these conversation songs are out now.
36:27
We're done. Fucking wild.
36:30
I I've never experienced this. It's going to be easy work for
36:32
us tonight. Yeah, there's Breathe out and I
36:38
forgot to put Spider Song through.
36:40
Need to do that. Spider Song was a three boom and
36:47
boom. All right, Chris.
36:52
I'm gonna do what I think is Maddie's best vocal performance
36:55
in the band, and it's also from the Dicker and Breathe EP in
36:58
Waves. So.
37:00
Fucking good, no? OK.
37:04
No. This is where those I, I, I Dave
37:08
like the the weird guitar tone they use and how good Maddie
37:12
sings in it. It's got a, it's got a unique
37:13
place for me in their discography.
37:19
All right, we'll go one more round and then we'll call it, I
37:21
think because I mean, what's, what can we do from here?
37:28
Yeah, right. Like.
37:29
Yeah. I'll try another Geoster
37:33
session. Wait, we already did this one
37:35
and I forgot to mark it? How about Scrooged?
37:45
No. No there.
37:49
Had to be someones in here. Yeah, we need them.
37:53
So it. This next round needs to not be
37:57
as difficult as adding songs. All right, John.
38:04
All right, I'm gonna justify my reputation and go with the last
38:08
track party. Queen Yeah, no, I don't have
38:14
that one, but we'll take it to you there.
38:18
We, we won't. We won't.
38:20
It's out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:21
No one's taking shit. Yeah, 2.
38:24
Two's a bin. Wow.
38:25
All right, Chris. Let's let's let's basically I'm
38:32
dumping out in between songs now, paper thin I.
38:35
Got paper thin? Yep, Yeah, it's great.
38:39
Great song. Oh man, A.
38:42
Little different vibe too. It shows like another side of
38:44
them. Better than the Hot Water Music
38:47
song of the same title. Hey, that's a great song.
38:50
Don't say that. I didn't say I didn't say it
38:53
wasn't good. I said this one's better.
38:55
I, I don't even know if I can compare it, but I, I, I respect
38:58
you. I'm a big hot water head.
39:05
Oh man, what is that? What is that, 12?
39:07
All right, let me shift that and then I'll dump these out and
39:13
hope that we don't get any more home runs cuz all right,
39:20
starting at the top. I've got real me.
39:27
No. OK, how about grandma?
39:33
Awesome song. I don't have it.
39:35
No. All right, I love that song.
39:38
Tallest tree. Why don't I don't, but I don't
39:45
know why no all. Right, can't stand it.
39:53
Nope. Nope.
39:55
That's me done. What did I say?
40:00
It was 12. Yeah.
40:02
Yeah. So nothing else can make it
40:05
right? Nothing.
40:05
Else can get in OK, we can dump out.
40:08
Just so you know, people can hear what songs you guys picked,
40:12
John. I wouldn't be surprised we have
40:14
a lot of the same ones. I have 3 left.
40:17
Me too, I've got life and death. Nope.
40:22
Big lie. Yes absolutely.
40:26
And rain spell. That is my other I just had old
40:29
dogs also. Yeah, yeah.
40:32
Old Dogs, Big Lie and Rain Spell.
40:35
So Old Dogs was just Chris, Big Lie and Rain Spell were both of
40:39
you just just for the paperwork? Just for the posterity, baby.
40:45
Counting all. Right.
40:47
And then let me shift this. Around I'm known for my counting
40:50
stats. Let.
40:53
Me run this down and I'll run down our 12 and then we'll get
40:59
the we'll get the figuring out which two got to go.
41:02
All right, I hate that, but something's got to.
41:07
I think that this will be not as hard as you think because I
41:09
think there's songs we can't cut.
41:11
OK, right, so I'll say this. None of us won because we got
41:15
12, but so that means none of us get to pick the final or the
41:20
song to get cut. But here's the 12 that got in
41:24
the scene. Wrong way one way.
41:26
LMD Edge of Living had enough of this hell goodbyes change on me
41:32
20 below see then spider song life moves and paper thin so.
41:38
It's such a good playlist. So 2 got to go, John.
41:44
I mean, Chris was just saying like there's, there's ones that
41:46
that you know can't go, but is there one that's kind of looking
41:51
compared to the other 11 like it probably can go?
41:59
Yeah, I'm looking at probably had enough of this.
42:05
Hell, maybe would be 1 I would be more willing to part with
42:13
than some of the other ones. I think that's a good call
42:16
because we also have Seben on there.
42:18
So that EP is on this list. Yeah, yeah.
42:21
So we have something. We also could have put Resilient
42:23
Bastard. There's another amazing song on
42:25
that EP, but that's a cover anyways, I think all.
42:28
Right. So we'll it will bow out at this
42:32
time. So same question to you Chris to
42:35
round it out is the one that kind of?
42:39
I'm very, very sorry to ask you to repeat it though, because I I
42:42
was going to say that. Sure, let me I.
42:46
Was going to say I had nothing. So we've got the scene.
42:51
Wrong way one way. LMD Edge of living, Goodbyes
42:54
change on me 20 below. See then spider song.
42:58
Life moves in paper thin. This is this is going to sound
43:03
so this is going to be very ironic because it was the first
43:06
one we all came together on. But I think I'd cut the steam
43:09
mostly because it is actively an intro to an album and doesn't
43:14
stand on its own. If you were like, oh, check out
43:16
this band and you'd never choose that song because it's it's very
43:20
much an intro to the Beauty between.
43:21
Does that make sense? Yeah, I get you.
43:24
I mean also it's sitting there right next to wrong way one way
43:27
and LMD, which I feel like both kind of have to be.
43:30
Two of the strongest pop songs they ever wrote?
43:32
Yeah. So I mean, when you look at it
43:35
that way, the scene looks like the one that probably can get
43:38
left out. What do you think, John?
43:40
How many? How many do we have from that
43:41
record? 12.
43:43
Can we get 7 from that 84? Hold on, I've got 5 listed but
43:54
there was 6 so. OK, Yeah, we have 5.
44:04
Yeah, I don't know. I mean the argument is.
44:09
Good. It's just the way.
44:12
It's just my logic. You know, yeah, yeah, I.
44:17
Just don't think it's what I would reach for, like if I was
44:19
going to show some of the reviver because of that, you
44:21
know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I I don't have a
44:23
better argument for any other songs.
44:28
It was a unanimous for a reason, you know, so.
44:31
Right. 100%, yeah. All right, let's, let's do that
44:35
then. Let's not make this any harder
44:37
than it needs to be. And we will run this down one
44:43
last go. We'll crank up the heat and then
44:46
we'll wrap her on up. All right, So we've got wrong
44:48
way, one way. LMD edge of living goodbyes
44:51
change on me 20 below Seethan spider song Life moves in paper
44:55
thin. John, when I read those 10 songs
44:58
down to you, which one is the one for Reviver?
45:04
Well I'm not going to go the wrong way down a one way St.,
45:07
it's wrong way run one way for me.
45:09
Yeah, I think I fully agree. You know, what's funny is like,
45:13
I probably would have made a case for something else before,
45:16
like hearing about the band's story and specifically Maddie's
45:22
story in knowing that I must have connected to it on that
45:26
level without knowing I was connecting with it on that
45:29
level, I think. Hell yeah.
45:30
I think that fucking says a lot so.
45:34
I also wanna I forgot to do this too.
45:36
We didn't shout out that Lou from Caves plays base for that
45:39
now and Caves fucking rules. So if you like Reviver Caves is
45:42
just the British, a little bit slightly less accessible version
45:46
of Reviver and I fully recommend you should check it out too,
45:49
Yeah. I'm making a note that the
45:53
seaman had enough, were unanimous, but had to get cut on
45:59
my paperwork here. Yeah.
46:02
All right, so we are all in agreement that wrong way one way
46:06
is our number one. I'm going to get it queued up
46:07
underneath us, run it down one last go and we will call it a
46:11
night on this episode. Boom, away we go.
46:20
Wrong way. One way is our number one LMD
46:23
Edge of living Goodbyes change on me 20 below.
46:25
See then spider song, Life moves and paper thin rounds out our
46:29
ten. And with that, let's let wrong
46:31
way one way get a moment in the sun.
46:43
Man, I probably just played too much and I'm going to get in
46:46
trouble, but that's OK. It's impossible to turn off.
46:51
I got caught. You know, in in hockey, there's
46:53
a term you get puck watching. I definitely got puck caught
46:56
puck watching there. All right, so we have done it.
47:01
We have turned you into Reviver fans and again, we talked about
47:04
the family of bands. Go back and listen to those
47:06
episodes as well and you know, get into those bands.
47:10
But now you know the story of this band and you know these
47:14
songs. Use these 10 songs.
47:16
I highly recommend just doing the deep dive.
47:19
You've heard little bits of clips here.
47:21
If you liked anything that you heard, just do the dive.
47:24
It's two hours, 16 minutes. You won't regret it.
47:26
It is guaranteed to be something that you're into.
47:29
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47:34
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