Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #208 I'll Do Better Tomorrow
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Answers Now in terms of what it does for our
- 0:12Speaker 2: relationship and what it does for setting our course for
- 0:15Speaker 2: the future, it.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Just feels so invigorated. And now here's the stars of
- 0:20Speaker 1: our show, my mum and dad Today.
- 0:23Speaker 2: This is doctor Justin Colson, the author of six books
- 0:25Speaker 2: about raising families to be happy. Sometimes I wonder if
- 0:29Speaker 2: it's actually possible. And here with my wife and co
- 0:32Speaker 2: hosts missus Happy Families, Kylie, Mum to our six daughters.
- 0:37Speaker 3: It's been a long week.
- 0:39Speaker 1: I'm so ready for the weekend.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Been a long week.
- 0:42Speaker 2: So this is our favorite segment every week. We kind
- 0:45Speaker 2: of say that every week, but we always look forward
- 0:47Speaker 2: to it because this is where we I kind of
- 0:49Speaker 2: feel like it's becoming the place where we go to
- 0:52Speaker 2: give an accounting of our week to be you know,
- 0:56Speaker 2: here's how it all went, Here's what worked, Here's what didn't.
- 0:58Speaker 2: But really the idea is we're interested in insights and
- 1:02Speaker 2: learning from the week how we can be better parents,
- 1:04Speaker 2: and we kind of share with you the ups and downs,
- 1:07Speaker 2: the winds and losses, the failings and foibles and also
- 1:11Speaker 2: the fantastic moments of our week.
- 1:14Speaker 1: I've got two this week, which.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Is kind of cheating. And you always roll your eyes
- 1:17Speaker 2: and think I talk too much?
- 1:19Speaker 1: But can I have to too?
- 1:20Speaker 4: Oh?
- 1:21Speaker 2: You do? Okay, Well, I'm going to go first, and
- 1:23Speaker 2: then are you now? Ladies before gentlemen? You go first?
- 1:26Speaker 1: You come on, you go first? I want to hear
- 1:29Speaker 1: we Well, the first.
- 1:29Speaker 5: One's actually a personal one, but I'm really excited. I've
- 1:32Speaker 5: been working hard at the gym, Yes you have. And
- 1:36Speaker 5: I have been looking at this lady who is doing
- 1:39Speaker 5: these box jumps like she's just an extraordinary She's doing
- 1:43Speaker 5: seventy centimeter jumps every time she's in the gym. I
- 1:48Speaker 5: can't even jump onto a step.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Really, no, Wow.
- 1:52Speaker 5: There are some muscles in my body. We won't talk
- 1:54Speaker 5: about which ones, but they actually don't work.
- 1:56Speaker 1: They just they literally do they actually not work? Or
- 1:59Speaker 1: are you just saying they don't work? They just does
- 2:02Speaker 1: your pet say they don't work? Yes? Or really?
- 2:04Speaker 3: Yes?
- 2:04Speaker 5: I have been told by numerous different specialists that I
- 2:08Speaker 5: have these muscles that just want to sit.
- 2:10Speaker 3: On their laurels.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Well, actually.
- 2:13Speaker 2: We're talking about your butt muscles, right, Your glutamer's Maximus.
- 2:15Speaker 1: They don't engage.
- 2:16Speaker 3: They just don't engage.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I want to sit there.
- 2:18Speaker 3: But I've been working really hard. Yeah, I've I've been sitting.
- 2:22Speaker 5: I've been working really really hard on these muscles to
- 2:25Speaker 5: engage them for about four weeks now.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Hopefully we're talking about engaging your butt muscles on the podcast.
- 2:31Speaker 5: And yesterday I had the biggest win ever. And the
- 2:35Speaker 5: reason it's a big win is because about six months ago,
- 2:37Speaker 5: when we took the kids camping, I tried to jump
- 2:40Speaker 5: onto a step like I'm talking, what fifteen centimeters off
- 2:44Speaker 5: the ground.
- 2:44Speaker 1: I don't think that that's even how high they are.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Oh, don't give me, Yeah, I'm serious. Anyway, go on,
- 2:48Speaker 2: I'm sure that a builder who's listing could tell us.
- 2:50Speaker 2: I know that's regulations.
- 2:52Speaker 5: Well, everyone else in the family could do it, and
- 2:54Speaker 5: I wanted to do it too, and I couldn't. I
- 2:56Speaker 5: literally could not take my two feet off the ground multaneously.
- 3:01Speaker 3: I had to jump up with one foot and then
- 3:03Speaker 3: the other.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Can you like skip rope or you just don't.
- 3:06Speaker 3: I couldn't even do that, and I said, love doing that.
- 3:09Speaker 1: So look at what getting old does to us.
- 3:11Speaker 5: Huh.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Yesterday, I have to tell you.
- 3:13Speaker 5: Yesterday, I was looking at this box chot and the
- 3:16Speaker 5: gym that I go to it has these small ones,
- 3:18Speaker 5: so they are about fifteen centimeters high, so it's not
- 3:21Speaker 5: even really a box.
- 3:22Speaker 3: It's just a step.
- 3:24Speaker 5: But I looked at it and I thought, you know what,
- 3:26Speaker 5: I really I just want to know if I can
- 3:28Speaker 5: do it. And so my EP told me to jump down.
- 3:34Speaker 5: It's like, oh, that seems stupid. She says, You're using
- 3:36Speaker 5: the same muscles, so just jump down. It's an easy start.
- 3:40Speaker 5: So I did ten jump downs.
- 3:43Speaker 1: This is the old edatoria. I jumped down a step ten.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, honey, that's great.
- 3:48Speaker 3: It's so horrible.
- 3:50Speaker 5: But then I thought, you know what, I'm going to
- 3:52Speaker 5: give it a go, and so I turned around and
- 3:54Speaker 5: I jumped up.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I actually did it. I jumped up.
- 3:58Speaker 1: What have we become as we get old?
- 4:00Speaker 3: Holy you're making fun of min owes.
- 4:01Speaker 2: You know what?
- 4:02Speaker 5: You know, this is a micro micro achievement for me.
- 4:05Speaker 5: But it's massive and I'm going to celebrate it even
- 4:08Speaker 5: if you won't.
- 4:08Speaker 1: No, I really am. I'm excited for you.
- 4:10Speaker 2: And in the moment when you sent me the video
- 4:12Speaker 2: of yourself jumping up onto whatever that boxy thing was.
- 4:15Speaker 1: I was ecstatic for you.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But listening to it now as we talk about it
- 4:19Speaker 2: in public, it does sound kind of funny, doesn't it?
- 4:21Speaker 1: Like you got to admit getting old.
- 4:24Speaker 3: It's not fuss.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Sometimes I think to myself, what would my fifteen year
- 4:27Speaker 2: old me think of me today?
- 4:30Speaker 5: Hey, well, I'll tell you right now, because my twenty
- 4:32Speaker 5: one year old was with me when I couldn't jump,
- 4:34Speaker 5: and when I sent her that video, she was really
- 4:36Speaker 5: proud of me.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too. I think that's great. Well, my
- 4:38Speaker 1: first I'll do better tomorrow is built on a.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Tradition that we have created for ourselves as a couple,
- 4:46Speaker 2: and I just I can't emphasize what a.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Difference this has made in our lives.
- 4:52Speaker 2: What happened several years ago was I was in a
- 4:55Speaker 2: business strategy meeting working out where we were going to
- 4:59Speaker 2: go with our business for the next quarter, and listen
- 5:01Speaker 2: to other people talking about where their businesses were going
- 5:03Speaker 2: to go for the next quarter, and I had this insight.
- 5:05Speaker 2: We spend so much time planning our businesses, our holidays,
- 5:11Speaker 2: our children's educations. We spend all this time in planning
- 5:13Speaker 2: all these kinds of things. But how much strategic planning
- 5:16Speaker 2: actually goes into our families. And so I came home
- 5:19Speaker 2: and talked to you about that, and I said, if
- 5:20Speaker 2: I'm going to have a quarterly business planning session, maybe
- 5:23Speaker 2: you and I should have a quarterly family planning session.
- 5:26Speaker 2: I'm in family planning, as in, how many kids are
- 5:27Speaker 2: we going to have for the rest of our lives?
- 5:28Speaker 2: I mean, how's our family going to survive? Once every quarter,
- 5:31Speaker 2: once every ninety days, once a term. What would it
- 5:34Speaker 2: be like if we sat down and said, what are
- 5:36Speaker 2: our key priorities, how do we realign our family with
- 5:38Speaker 2: our values? What are we going to do to keep
- 5:41Speaker 2: our family in check?
- 5:42Speaker 3: Did I roll my eyes? I can't remember.
- 5:44Speaker 2: No, you were all in because I said, this is
- 5:46Speaker 2: how it would look. We get somebody to look after
- 5:47Speaker 2: the kids for two nights and we go away somewhere
- 5:50Speaker 2: so that we can have good quality time together but
- 5:52Speaker 2: also have these conversations that matter.
- 5:54Speaker 3: And for the last you got me right there.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah, for the last several years we've been doing that.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And I mean, for those of you who are not
- 6:00Speaker 1: familiar with.
- 6:01Speaker 2: This idea, basically, we stay local, so we're based in
- 6:05Speaker 2: Brisbane and we actually go and have two nights in
- 6:07Speaker 2: a local Brisbane hotel. We don't even get on an airplane.
- 6:11Speaker 1: We don't go to the.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Gold Coast or the Sunshine Coast and us we're really
- 6:14Speaker 2: living large. We stay local so that we can really
- 6:16Speaker 2: maximize the time that we have together. I know that
- 6:20Speaker 2: not everybody has the support from a family or a
- 6:24Speaker 2: nanny kind of point of view. We have missed plenty
- 6:29Speaker 2: of these quarterly getaways because we haven't been able to
- 6:31Speaker 2: rely on family.
- 6:32Speaker 1: But we were fortunate that your mum was.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Able to look after the kids last weekend and we
- 6:36Speaker 2: got away two nights just at a hotel in Brisbane.
- 6:41Speaker 1: And in terms of what it.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Does for our relationship and what it does for setting
- 6:45Speaker 2: our course for the future, I just feel so invigorated,
- 6:50Speaker 2: and I wanted to share that for any couple or
- 6:53Speaker 2: even any individual who wants to make sure that they
- 6:56Speaker 2: stay aligned to their true north, to their core, their purpose,
- 6:59Speaker 2: their focus, what they value because having a couple of
- 7:02Speaker 2: days where you can take some time out. Stephen Covey,
- 7:04Speaker 2: in his book Seven Habits of Highly Effective People calls
- 7:06Speaker 2: this idea sharpening the saw. You know, we're so busy
- 7:09Speaker 2: sowing sometimes that we forget that we need to stop
- 7:11Speaker 2: soaring and sharpen the saw so that we can be
- 7:13Speaker 2: more affective with our soaring. And I feel like we
- 7:15Speaker 2: can soar through the tree of term one so much
- 7:18Speaker 2: better as a result of this weekend away. So just
- 7:21Speaker 2: a quick idea. I've got to also add something to this.
- 7:25Speaker 2: I've got a good friend who is at the very
- 7:29Speaker 2: highest level in the executive of a major financial institution
- 7:33Speaker 2: here in Australia, and I was sharing this idea with
- 7:36Speaker 2: him when we got together a couple of years ago,
- 7:39Speaker 2: and he said, you know, that's a great idea.
- 7:40Speaker 1: I've never thought of doing that.
- 7:42Speaker 2: And just a couple of weeks ago we caught up
- 7:45Speaker 2: and he said, I've just come back from my quarterly
- 7:48Speaker 2: getaway with my wife and I said, oh, do you
- 7:51Speaker 2: do that? He said, yeah, you told me about it
- 7:52Speaker 2: on a bike ride a couple of years ago. He said,
- 7:55Speaker 2: this is one of the most powerful things that we've
- 7:56Speaker 2: ever done for our family or for our marriage.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I just love it.
- 8:00Speaker 2: So that's my first I'll do better tomorrow as a
- 8:02Speaker 2: bit of inspo, a bit of you know, get excited
- 8:04Speaker 2: about this, folks. I just can't emphasize how good I
- 8:08Speaker 2: feel that I got to have a couple of days away,
- 8:10Speaker 2: a couple of nights away with you, And how grateful
- 8:12Speaker 2: I am that your mum, in spite of the fact
- 8:14Speaker 2: that she needs a hip replacement, is going into the
- 8:15Speaker 2: hospital in the next couple of weeks, and your dad took.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Some time out to come and do that for us.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I feel really really grateful to them, but also really
- 8:22Speaker 2: grateful for that time away.
- 8:24Speaker 5: Well, we both hinted that we had an extra one
- 8:27Speaker 5: that we wanted to share, so maybe we can do
- 8:28Speaker 5: that after the break.
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- 9:28Speaker 5: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time
- 9:30Speaker 5: poor parent who just wants answers now. And today we're
- 9:34Speaker 5: talking about the insights that we've had as parents. So
- 9:37Speaker 5: before the break we probably didn't share so much how
- 9:40Speaker 5: parenting insights, but some opportunities that we've had as individuals
- 9:43Speaker 5: and as a couple to connect and.
- 9:46Speaker 1: To improve and to make things better.
- 9:48Speaker 5: Yeah, but my parenting insight this week, things have been
- 9:54Speaker 5: pretty challenging with baby number six. Miss Emily has regressed
- 9:59Speaker 5: signific as we've gone through this COVID period of isolation
- 10:04Speaker 5: and a complete change up with homeschooling.
- 10:08Speaker 1: And a big summer holiday, a lack.
- 10:10Speaker 5: Of routine and all of those kinds of things, and
- 10:12Speaker 5: so as we've kind of gone back to school and
- 10:16Speaker 5: gone back to church, and we've started to see her
- 10:18Speaker 5: kind of in these I guess, more institutionalized spaces. She's
- 10:22Speaker 5: just really really struggling to realign herself.
- 10:25Speaker 2: And our family is not the only one struggling with this.
- 10:28Speaker 2: My Facebook page, parents that I'm talking to, they're saying, Ah,
- 10:30Speaker 2: the little ones especially are really struggling to get back
- 10:33Speaker 2: into what we expect of them, because especially for people
- 10:36Speaker 2: who are in Melbourne with the big lockdown, people who
- 10:38Speaker 2: are overseas who have gone through major shutdowns, it's been
- 10:41Speaker 2: really disruptive.
- 10:43Speaker 5: We've got this beautifully bright young girl, and she is
- 10:48Speaker 5: energetic and strong willed and independent, and these are all
- 10:52Speaker 5: qualities that I love and admire about her and hope
- 10:56Speaker 5: that through time she will continue to hone in and develop.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Yeah, but they can also be very inconvenient.
- 11:02Speaker 5: But as a six year old, they are very inconvenient
- 11:04Speaker 5: and can be very challenging to navigate. And so I
- 11:08Speaker 5: will admit I've been bracing myself. I've been waiting for
- 11:10Speaker 5: that phone call from the school or a conversation.
- 11:13Speaker 2: With the team, we're suspending your six year old because
- 11:16Speaker 2: she won't stop moving.
- 11:17Speaker 3: And it happened. It happened.
- 11:19Speaker 5: The other day, the teacher pulled me aside and just
- 11:21Speaker 5: you know, acknowledged that Emily was having a hard time
- 11:24Speaker 5: about things, and so we were able to have a
- 11:26Speaker 5: good conversation. But what came out of that was just
- 11:29Speaker 5: this opportunity for me. I can do one of two things.
- 11:31Speaker 5: I can sit back and I can beerate myself because
- 11:33Speaker 5: I'm such a bad parent and clearly my parenting skills
- 11:36Speaker 5: are just not up to the task. Or I can
- 11:39Speaker 5: reflect on the things that I know about my daughter
- 11:41Speaker 5: and about myself and us as a family, and I
- 11:43Speaker 5: can go back to basics. And so that's exactly what
- 11:45Speaker 5: we've done as a family. We've made some really really significant,
- 11:51Speaker 5: I guess decisions around supporting her because at the moment,
- 11:56Speaker 5: she's been lacking in structure, and now we've got structure,
- 12:00Speaker 5: and I need to just help her realign with that structure.
- 12:04Speaker 5: And yesterday I have to tell you I had a
- 12:07Speaker 5: couple of wins. And again there were a couple of
- 12:09Speaker 5: not so good wins in the day. There were some
- 12:12Speaker 5: really big challenges. But when I was able to sit
- 12:14Speaker 5: back at the end of the day and just reassess
- 12:17Speaker 5: where we were at with her and the accomplishments that
- 12:20Speaker 5: we made through the day. I was really grateful that
- 12:23Speaker 5: I could actually see improvement, so.
- 12:27Speaker 2: To take our message when things started to get a
- 12:29Speaker 2: little bit out of control back to basics. Yeah, yeah,
- 12:33Speaker 2: children respond so well to the secure, predictable routines of life.
- 12:38Speaker 2: This one's a challenging one for me to share, but
- 12:40Speaker 2: it's so important. I don't think that it's any secret
- 12:42Speaker 2: that COVID has had a fairly substantial impact on people's businesses,
- 12:45Speaker 2: especially someone like me who gets paid to travel around
- 12:48Speaker 2: the country and give talks to large audiences. Like that,
- 12:50Speaker 2: part of what I do for work has just vanished.
- 12:54Speaker 2: And while I wish that everything that I do for
- 12:56Speaker 2: parents I could do for free. I love having the
- 12:58Speaker 2: social media and the podcast and all the stuff that
- 13:00Speaker 2: we do, we do need to derive an income, and
- 13:02Speaker 2: therefore I give talks and I write books and that
- 13:04Speaker 2: kind of thing. But obviously the speaking stuff's just vanished.
- 13:08Speaker 2: The governments have brought in regulations for appropriate safety, and
- 13:13Speaker 2: some people would agree and some people would disagree.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I don't want to be political.
- 13:16Speaker 2: The short version of this, though, is that it's had
- 13:18Speaker 2: a significant and tremendously direct impact on the way we
- 13:21Speaker 2: provide for our family, and it hasn't all.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Been good news.
- 13:25Speaker 2: As we've entered this year, there's been some challenges associated
- 13:27Speaker 2: with that. In my stress levels have been a little
- 13:29Speaker 2: bit higher than normal. And the other day, our thirteen
- 13:33Speaker 2: year old and our ten year old started to have
- 13:35Speaker 2: a fight and it was just ugly, and I intervened
- 13:39Speaker 2: in a high stress moment. You know, my emotions were
- 13:41Speaker 2: very high. My intelligence went out the door, and I
- 13:44Speaker 2: treated my thirteen year old, our thirteen year old just horribly.
- 13:49Speaker 2: I did not behave the way I teach people to behave.
- 13:53Speaker 2: I left all of my intelligence at the door and
- 13:55Speaker 2: just went in their roarings, what's going on? And I
- 13:58Speaker 2: got it totally wrong, to the point where she was
- 14:00Speaker 2: in tears and she ran out of the room and
- 14:02Speaker 2: then she didn't want to ever see me again, and
- 14:04Speaker 2: she hates me and all that sort of stuff.
- 14:06Speaker 1: And then she had to go to school, and she
- 14:07Speaker 1: had to go to school in that frame of mind.
- 14:10Speaker 2: And I felt sick to my stomach. My heart was
- 14:13Speaker 2: exploding with sadness. So when she came home, the first
- 14:16Speaker 2: thing I did was I said, I really need to
- 14:18Speaker 2: talk to you, and she refused. She didn't want to
- 14:19Speaker 2: do it, and finally I kind of convinced, kind of
- 14:23Speaker 2: coerced her into our bedroom so that I could just
- 14:25Speaker 2: sit down with her. And there's something about apologizing to
- 14:30Speaker 2: your children that is so humbling and yet so precious,
- 14:38Speaker 2: and I just I had to do such a hard thing.
- 14:41Speaker 2: But I said to Annie, I just got it so
- 14:43Speaker 2: wrong this morning. And then I explained precisely what I
- 14:47Speaker 2: had done so she knew that I wasn't skipping over
- 14:49Speaker 2: the apology.
- 14:50Speaker 1: I told her exactly how I.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Had behaved, and then I spent some time telling her
- 14:55Speaker 2: how it left her feeling. It left her feeling scared,
- 14:57Speaker 2: left to feeling worried, It left to feel embarrassed because
- 15:00Speaker 2: she had to go to school with tears in her
- 15:02Speaker 2: eyes because she still hadn't been able to process and
- 15:04Speaker 2: work through it herself, and really stepped through the impact
- 15:08Speaker 2: of my loss of control as a parent, as her dad,
- 15:12Speaker 2: as someone she's supposed to trust on the rest of
- 15:16Speaker 2: her day. And then I said those four words that
- 15:20Speaker 2: I think every parent needs to practice and rehearse and
- 15:22Speaker 2: use when they have those moments. I said, Annie, will
- 15:25Speaker 2: you forgive me four words? She said, I'm not sure
- 15:33Speaker 2: and so I said, well, do you.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Mind if I give you a hug?
- 15:37Speaker 2: And she shrugged her shoulders and said I'm not sure.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And we spent another couple of minutes in conversation, and
- 15:42Speaker 2: then I asked her again, will you forgive me? And
- 15:45Speaker 2: this time she just broke down and put her head
- 15:47Speaker 2: into my shoulder and sobbed. And I thought, how grateful
- 15:52Speaker 2: I am for the opportunity to say sorry. It just
- 15:58Speaker 2: does such extraordins. Not just opportunity to say sorry, but
- 16:01Speaker 2: the opportunity to ask for forgiveness. I thought, if we
- 16:05Speaker 2: as parents, as we as partners, could use those four
- 16:08Speaker 2: words more often, I think that our families would be
- 16:11Speaker 2: much happier places. We're always going to break down in
- 16:15Speaker 2: our relationships. There will always be mistakes, even in the
- 16:18Speaker 2: very best families. There will be big blow ups and
- 16:21Speaker 2: challenges and errors.
- 16:24Speaker 1: But if we can.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Get repair right, we can restore our families to where
- 16:29Speaker 2: they should.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Be and maybe even move beyond.
- 16:32Speaker 5: Now.
- 16:32Speaker 1: We don't want this to be a pattern.
- 16:33Speaker 2: It shouldn't happen all the time, But that experience in
- 16:37Speaker 2: our bedroom with our thirteen year old that afternoon, it
- 16:40Speaker 2: was a really.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Hard thing to do as a dad.
- 16:44Speaker 2: But it was also one of the most beautiful things
- 16:46Speaker 2: that I've been able to do, So that was my
- 16:48Speaker 2: I'll do better tomorrow.
- 16:50Speaker 3: It's amazing.
- 16:50Speaker 5: As we go throughout our week we have all of
- 16:52Speaker 5: these experiences, and sometimes we actually miss the learning that
- 16:57Speaker 5: we can take from them with out the opportunity to reflect.
- 17:01Speaker 5: So I love Fridays for that reason. I love being
- 17:04Speaker 5: able to reflect on the things that we've experienced together
- 17:08Speaker 5: and the way in which we can be better now.
- 17:11Speaker 2: We hope that this has provided you with a mindful
- 17:14Speaker 2: moment and maybe you could take a few moments yourself
- 17:17Speaker 2: to consider how you might be better tomorrow as you're
- 17:19Speaker 2: head into the weekend and get set to spend more
- 17:22Speaker 2: time with your family. We also hope that you really
- 17:25Speaker 2: enjoyed the podcast. We're here because we want to make
- 17:27Speaker 2: families happier. If you have enjoyed the podcast, we'd be
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- 17:35Speaker 2: We really appreciate those five star ratings and reviews. Justin
- 17:41Speaker 2: Ruland from Bridge Media is the producer of the podcast.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Craig Bruce is our executive producer.
- 17:45Speaker 1: We thank them for their great work on the podcast.
- 17:47Speaker 2: If you'd like more information about how to make your
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- 17:53Speaker 2: to help your family to thrive, please visit happyfamilies dot
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