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UK Column News - 27th February 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon, it's Friday the 27th of February 2020, sixth
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just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
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I'm your host Mike Robinson, my Co host in studio today, Brian
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Garish. Welcome to programme, Brian.
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Pleasure to be here. And will be joined today once
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again by Basil Valentine's night.
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Later in the programme, Brian is going to be reporting on Hillary
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Clinton's appearance to give evidence on Epstein, plus
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British politicians Epstein and Morocco.
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Basil will be covering the man in Nottingham who was not put in
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a mental institution because he's black and who went on to
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commit murder. And I'm going to be covering the
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reform of the justice system in the UK, including a massive AI
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rollout. And Patrick will be joining us
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again, at least in a recorded form, to report from Mexico on
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the continuing unrest there. But we're going to begin today
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with the Gordon and Denton by election.
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And well, David Lammy was tweeting this out yesterday, the
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day before. If we bring that on screen.
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Proud to be out knocking doors today for Labour's brilliant
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candidate. Only Labour can stop reform.
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If you're in Gordon and Denton vote for unity, hope and local
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renewal over division and hate. Well, I wonder how that went.
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So was Labour the only the only organisation or the only party
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that could stop reform? Well, it turns out it was not.
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So let's just bring the results on screen here.
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So the Greens won by 40.7%, Reform 28.7, Labour 25.4 and
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then the rest Conservatives didn't even show.
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So Basil, let me welcome you to the programme at this point and
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take us through your cover, your sort of your view on what
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happened last night. Great to be with you Mike.
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Yes, it was a thumping great win for the Greens.
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That's the first thing to note. A lot of people have been
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predicting a very close call latest polls before we got the
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results showing a virtual three way tie between reform, the
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Greens and Labour. But in the end the Greens got a
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4000 majority. Their share of the vote, 41
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percent, is 4 times bigger than their previous best by election
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results and represents an increase in vote five times
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larger than anything they'd previously achieved.
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Worth perhaps noting too that the Conservative Party got just
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2%. It's never been a Tory
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constituency, but nevertheless officials for Green and Labour
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both cited the Gaza genocide as still being a key factor.
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It's initiated Labour soul searching crisis.
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For many years Labour revelled in the fact that so called
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progressives had nowhere else to go.
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That was a quote attributed famously to Peter Mandelson of
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all people. And that the fact that Labour
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were benefiting from the fact that the Greens were a blank
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party. Filling your own word for that.
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The Labour minister used an expletive to describe them, but
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saying that Labour would be under threat should the Greens
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improve their leadership with a more articulate and, you know,
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altogether more populist leader. Well, they've got that now in
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Zack Polanski. And as a result, you know, they
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they won this thumping result. Difficult, of course, to
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criticise Polanski for the party's stance on Israel and
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Gaza, given that he himself is Jewish.
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But nevertheless the opprobrium that's being heaped on the party
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because of their stance on Israel, Gaza and indeed at the
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upcoming spring conference, they're due to debate in motion
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that Zionism is racism, something that's prompted an
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official response from the Israeli embassy here in the UK.
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Labour, for their part, while Stamo has already been
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criticised for his response to the defeat, downplaying the
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scale, saying it was typical for governing parties to lose by
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elections like that. It's partly true, but not to
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this extent. I mean, this had been a Labour
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seat for 100 years. It shows that the old
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demographics, the assumptions that people in certain parts of
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the country from certain backgrounds would automatically
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vote one way or another, whether that's for the Conservatives or
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for Labour, that's been completely destroyed.
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You know, the Greens won this seat comfortably, Reformer in
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second, Labour a very poor 3rd and the Tories nowhere.
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The message that comes out of it is that people are heartily fed
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up of the UNI party that has served them so badly.
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On the doorsteps. Of course people talking about
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the cost of living crisis, something that Labour has
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singularly failed to address. But Ansky this morning, when
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interviewed by Nick Robinson, said he wanted to introduce a
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wealth tax. That wealth and power had been
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concentrated in far too few hands for too long, Nick
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Robertson said. Oh well, a wealth tax will just
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simply drive all the millionaires and billionaires
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overseas. And Polanski countered by saying
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that Switzerland has a wealth tax and is known for its high
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percentage of high net worth individuals.
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So this is going to rumble on the ramifications of this.
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What Labour does in future, who knows?
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Labour MPs are calling variously for Starmer himself to step
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down, or for at least to be there a complete change of
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direction. And mostly they want Labour to
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go left because they have been outflanked from the left here.
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In fact, Starmer was also criticised for describing the
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Greens as extremist. So it's really put the cat among
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the pigeons, so to speak. People love all the hyperbole
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these by elections. I can remember going all the way
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back to Roy Jenkins winning Glasgow Hill head for the
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nascent Social Democratic Party. People predicted the end of the
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two party system then that proved premature.
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But this time, I think it's actually happening.
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But I mean, Basil, I would probably argue that, and we have
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been arguing for quite some time that whether it's green or
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reform, this is just another expression of the UNI party.
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And and the the veneer that they're putting on themselves of
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being something different perhaps doesn't quite stack up
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when you start looking under the surface.
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Well, I don't know that that's true certainly of the Greens,
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you know, been talking about getting out of NATO.
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They were attacked by Labour for their policies on immigration,
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supposedly open border that will have limited appeal in most of
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the UK. Also their drug policy to
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legalise all drugs and Labour were going around saying that
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they would be showing primary school children.
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The Greens want to show primary school children how to take
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drugs safely. I don't know if that's true, but
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personally I think the the Greens do represent a distinct
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alternative and they may well be in alliance at the next general
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election with your party. That's what they've decided to
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call it now, the Corbyn Zara Sultana LED Left Labor Party,
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which recently had its Central Executive Committee elections.
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The Corbyn slate did best of all.
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They are finally getting themselves together, it would
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appear. And there's a lot of talk of an
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electoral pact between the Workers Party of Britain, who of
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course have very different immigration policy from the
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Greens, The Workers Party that your party and indeed the Greens
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to outflank Labour from the left.
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Well, look, let's just have a quick listen to the a couple of
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seconds of Hannah Spencer's acceptance speech.
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And what I'm going to, what I want to do then is, well, we'll
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watch this. And then we're going to contrast
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that with comments from Matt Goodwin.
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So let's let's listen to her first.
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OK, bear with me because this is a lot.
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I didn't grow up. Wanting to be a politician.
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I'm a plumber. And two weeks ago, during all
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this, I also qualified as a plasterer.
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Because even in chaos, even under pressure, I get things
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done. I am no.
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Different to every single person here in this constituency.
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I work hard. That is what we do.
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Except things have changed a lot over the last few decades
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because working hard used to get you something.
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It got you a house, a nice life, holidays, it got you somewhere
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but now working hard, what does that get you?
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So that that was the beginning of what she went.
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She went on then to talk about the, the immigration situation
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and, and the suggestion that in fact, the Greens, as you say,
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Basil, were, are very keen to have open borders.
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But let's just have a look at the comments made then by Matt
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Goodwin when he was asked why Reform had done so relatively
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badly. Or, you know, compared to the
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expectations. Sectarianism.
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That's what happened. We more than doubled our vote.
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We're in Labour's backyard with a second political force in this
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seat. We have planted a flag in
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northern England. You'll have seen the the reform
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boards up and down this constituency.
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More than 10,000 people voted for us.
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We can go on to Labour constituencies across northern
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England, into the Red Wall, into Wales.
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We can win those seats. We will win those seats again.
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The Greens can only pull this kind of result off in a small a
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number of seats. We can do this everywhere.
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Our ground game is the best game in British politics.
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We're not resorting to sectarian politics to get us over the
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line. So his view is that reform can
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come second everywhere apparently.
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But anyway, I realised that was probably a slip up.
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But look, Basil, this allegation of sectarianism, what's your
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view on that? Well, it stems largely in this
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case, apparently, from the Greens producing leaflets in
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Urdu for members of the Pakistani community.
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And there's no doubt politics has become more tribal in the
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last few years. Cami Baedenoch, the leader of
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the rump known as the Conservative Party, has issued a
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statement this morning blaming Labour for that shift, saying
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that it's Labour that had been stirring up division among
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communities for decades prior to this result.
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But I think we're certainly going to see more of this kind
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of pattern emerging in the future.
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The demographics breakdown of the way people voted indicates
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that, you know, for what of a better way of putting it.
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The Sky News did a breakdown on this.
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White people voted for the most part, for reform.
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White people also voted for the Greens.
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Let's not forget that. But of course, the Greens also
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benefited from winning almost the entire Muslim vote, largely
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of course because of the Gaza genocide.
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So if people want to get away from sectarian politics, then a
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good start would be a universal condemnation of genocide.
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Absolutely, 100%. Now just to sort of reinforce
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this point, Richard Dearlove a couple of days ago before the
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the election result was out, had this to say about Zach Polanski
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and actually seemed to be hitting one or two of the same
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kinds of points as as Matt there.
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So let's have a look. Listen to this.
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I'm afraid I do. I think his view of geopolitics
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is verging on the absurd. This man is really dangerous.
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I dislike intensely the campaign that he's running in this by
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election, which is designed to capture the Muslim veit.
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He has made crazy statements about NATO.
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He's come up with some weird idea about a alliance militarily
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with Brazil and Mexico. I think this.
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Now, of course, that completely misrepresents the position that
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Polanski was expressing, no matter what you think about the
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man himself, because he was saying that Britain should be in
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a alignment with the EU, with other nations and and also
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nations in the global S, including Brazil and Mexico.
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He wasn't suggesting just Brazil and Mexico.
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So, but anyway, what we should remember of course is who
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Richard Dearlove is, former head of MI 6.
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And of course this tweet which was underneath the there was a
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comment underneath that particular video clip made this
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point very clearly. And of course this is absolutely
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valid. Mr Delove knew all about the
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satanic sex trafficking blackmail up of Maxwell and
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Epstein. He did nothing.
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How much help did he give them while they were in Europe?
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And these are valid criticisms. So, you know, it's, it is pretty
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rich him making comments on domestic politics.
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Well, yeah, I'm laughing. It's black humour.
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It's outrageous really the, the way these people step into the
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limelight and then try and hold the moral high ground because
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the security services in UK have absolutely refused, it would
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appear, to investigate what's been going on with child abuse
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as just one subject at high level and then they they start
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to meddle in politics like this. I I just find it appalling.
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Well, look, let's let's stick with the Epstein segue, wasn't
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it? Yeah.
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So let's just kick off the little BBC clip.
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No apologies, but it's quite interesting because Jess Parker
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from the BBC is is asking some some questions of Hillary
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Clinton. Let's just have a little look at
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how the girl did. Do you regret the links that
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there have been? You know, we have no links.
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We have a very clear record that we've been willing to talk
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about, which my husband has said he took some rides on the
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aeroplane for his charitable. Work.
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I don't recall ever meeting him. Did you ever meet Elaine
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Maxwell? I did on a few occasions and
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thousands of people go to the Clinton Global Initiative.
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So it to me is not is not something that is really at the
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heart of what this matter is about.
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They are accused and in both cases were.
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Convicted of horrific crimes against girls and women.
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That should be the focus and we are more than happy to say what
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we know, which is very limited and totally unrelated to their
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behaviour or their crimes. And we want to do it in public
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because let's make this transparent.
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There are calls for another individual who denies wrongdoing
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to go before Congress on this matter, Andrew Mountbatten
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Windsor, formerly Prince Andrew. Do you think he should testify?
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I think everybody should testify, including the former
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Prince I. Think everybody should testify
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Who was asked to testify? I just want it to be fair.
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I want everybody treated the same way.
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That's not true for my husband and me.
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Because other witnesses were asked to testify.
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They gave written statements underoath we.
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Offered. That they want to pull us.
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Why do they want to pull us into this?
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To divert attention from President Trump.
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This is not complicated. So really interesting clip.
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I saw that earlier on this this morning, Mike, I think you were
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seeing it for the first time. But just fascinating to see the
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way that she behaves there. Because I can tell you if you
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look at more of that interview, she is clearly under pressure at
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one stage. But then she seems to gain the
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upper hand and says, well, yeah, we were connected, but we didn't
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do anything wrong. She, she doesn't mention
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weddings. Well, that doesn't come to light
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in this video clip that brought her into contact with Ghislaine
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Maxwell. But then then she's saying
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something really interesting that they're picking on us.
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We're saying we'd have put in a written, written testimony.
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We're quite happy to do that. We've got nothing to hide.
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My husband just got on the plane because of his charitable works.
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And of course we can trust Bill Clinton when we remember back to
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the Monica Zelensky affair. So what is she really talking
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about? Well, she says she's being
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picked on. And in a way I think she is
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being picked on because this takes the heat of the people
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really involved. And we've said over recent days
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as well that Andrew is absolutely constantly in the
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spotlight. But what is happening to
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investigate all the other high level people?
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So my kind of, I don't know what you'd add to that, but I just
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found this a fascinating little clip.
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This is theatre. Well, it is.
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I mean, I don't know what about the guilt or innocence of any of
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the people that have been mentioned so far.
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But the fact of the matter is the way this looks to be is
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throw Matt Wilson, throw Andrew to the wolves, throw Hillary
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Clinton to the wolves, hopefully by to picking a few high profile
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people that everybody else that was involved gets away with it.
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That doesn't mean that anybody is should be getting away with
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anything. Everybody should be under
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significant scrutiny and there needs to be a massive
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investigation. Indeed.
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So let's dig in deeper. I'm going to stay with the BBC
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because something else the BBC was promoting this morning was
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this article here. Which is that Epstein.
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According to the released emails, Epstein have been trying
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to buy a palace in Morocco days before his arrest in 2019 and he
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he ended up signing an 11 billion wire transfer on the 5th
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of July 2019, the day before his arrest, following an agreement
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to buy the offshore company that owns the property.
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Now in the BBC article they get into the sort of arrangements of
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the property in some detail and the question is asked, was he
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trying to buy this in order to escape the US?
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But the time scale seems to be very short and it didn't work
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out anywhere. The article also points out that
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the release files, the Epstein files appear to show that in
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2010 Epstein asked former Labour Cabinet minister Peter Manderson
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definement find him an assistant who could help find Epstein a
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house in Marrakech. So those clips directly from the
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BBC reports. And if we dive in a bit deeper,
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as the youngsters like to say these days, So Epstein's
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connections to Morocco go back to at least the early 2000.
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And Virginia Guthrie, one of the one of his most prominent
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accusers, talks of being flown to Tangier by Epstein and
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Maxwell to inspect the interior of properties.
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And if we just bring it a bit more, in 2002, Epstein attended
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the wedding of the Rocken King, having been invited by former
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U.S. President Bill Clinton.
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So this is a nice little circuit of people, very powerful.
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What were they up to? Well, that's of course what we
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need the intelligence services, the FBI and the CIA to be
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investigating. But this report is fascinating
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and what it tells us. Because it goes on to say that
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the documents, the sale, sorry, the documents from the Epstein
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files show that Epstein made periodic visits to Morocco from
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2012. He stayed in the exclusive
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Palomarini district. And there were a lot of expats
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there, including Qatari royal family people and one of whom
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Epstein described as his Arab brother.
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And this one here will end on this last excerpt.
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Subsequently, Epstein had to use his girlfriend and her network
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of contacts in Morocco to conduct further inspections of
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the property. And in 2018, he visited the
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property, this very sumptuous property, before final bids were
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made. But because he'd made a very low
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bid earlier on, the seller got pretty shirty.
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And so here, at one stage, it appears that they were trying to
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use Leon Black's name as a billionaire investor friend of
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Epstein to help Sale go through. Now, why am I picking up on this
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BBC report? Well, of course, it's what the
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BBC doesn't talk about. And if I just bring on this
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Slate 2015 article, I could have chosen many others, but it says
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what's it like to be gay in Morocco?
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And the first thing that comes up is that it talks about a
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square in Marrakech, and it says that that is the city's primary
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gate cruising spot after dusk. And if we bring it a little bit
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more of the article, they go on to say at one particular point,
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Yves St Laurent had a home in Tangier for many years, as well
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as a villa in Marrakech. And the darker side of this
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period in Tangier's history is apparent in the Diaries of the
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English playwright Joe Orton, which made clear he was none too
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fussed about the age of the boys he was picking up there.
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Now this is the key points that when you get you get into
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Morocco and the dark side of Morocco, very young men, young
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boys and children are available, many of whom are available
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because of extreme poverty in the country.
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Now the UK column has held material over many years that
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were kindly given to us by the late Colonel Barry Turner, one
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of a number of retired ex military people desperately
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worried about what they saw as corruption in this country.
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I've put on screen heavily redacted to scallywag front
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pages. But why are we interested in
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these documents? Well, if we bring it in, in the
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1990s Scallywag was carrying detailed reports alleging
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perverse corruption in Britain's political elite, including in
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Morocco. And this was across the
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political divide. So it was stories and Labour.
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These are some of the articles in the gay gardens of Morocco,
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Secret meetings, missing cabinet papers and boys galore.
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And if I just bring in a little more detail on this particular
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article, it's talking about the procuring of children.
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And if we just expand this bit on screen, it's talking about a
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24 year old Moroccan in Risi, unemployed student of chemistry,
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who supplies hashes to the hotels that have tourists.
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And the reporters from Scaliwag met him and he was happy in the
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gardens of a very posh hotel to offer them children from the
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ages of 6 to 1616 lbs a boy. But they also pointed out that
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if you want to do, if you want to do harm a child physically,
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you, you were going to resort to physical violence as part of the
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sexual interaction with the child.
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That was going to cost you a lot more.
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Now the very brave reporters of Scaliwag even emphasise the
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horrors of what was going on here in that particular edition
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by putting out an advert. And they were simply emphasising
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the trail of perverted abuse. And let's remember that
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according to their allegations they were talking very senior
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political people in UK U KS government.
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These are indicative of other headlines that Scallywag has had
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Tory gay love nest exposed and if I remember correctly this
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links through to Dolphin Square type abuse in London.
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They were also investigating the abuse of children in care homes
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and residential homes. Very detailed, well put together
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articles and eventually the editor, Simon Regan of Scallywag
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was prepared to to challenge one of the biggest libel law firms
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in the country over the accuracy of what they were saying.
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It was a challenge. We are reporting this.
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You come for us if you want to. Well, at one particular stage a
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challenge was made to scallywag and that cost them money, but it
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appears. We'll talk about that in a
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second, but just just before we move on to that, then Brian, you
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should maybe say something about why we have redacted those those
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images. Well, it's a redaction of not
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only some images but it's also text because the names being
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mentioned are people who are still very much currently
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service serving in the political arena.
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And we get back into this very difficult situation where people
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have done extremely good investigative journalists
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journalism in their reports. But the danger is that mentioned
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under the current libel laws means that there is a
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suppression of people take trying to take the lid off the
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abuse of children. Basil, just before I move on
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with this, do you have any comment to make on what we've
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talked about here? Well, only that from my
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involvement in student politics at Cambridge University.
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They're always sort of dark whispers about the activities of
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some individuals in the Conservative Party.
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Like that was all regarded as a bit of a joke at the time.
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You know, a harmless joke really, that there might be some
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Tories who like little boys and things.
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And of course there's that famous quote from the former
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chief whip saying that people would go, MPs would go to the
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whip's office if they had a problem, perhaps some unpaid
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debts or something to do with small boys.
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So I never came across it personally myself.
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But as I say, there were there were always sort of whispers,
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often in in joke form. Yeah.
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Thanks for that. I'll just hold this up on the
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screen. That's one of the issues.
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We've got a we have a whole bundle of reports here that make
27:16
extremely interesting reading. But of course, let's remember
27:19
what the journalists were trying to do.
27:21
They were trying to get the lid off the abuse, horrific abuse of
27:26
children by very powerful people.
27:29
And I think to some extent it appears that they paid the price
27:32
of doing that. Well, yes, well, let's bring the
27:35
Scallywag archive on screen because that is available if you
27:38
want to go and see some of the contents of this.
27:41
But I just wanted to highlight a couple of quotes from this
27:44
website because it says here Scallywag most famously was sued
27:48
for libel by John Major over an article claiming he was having
27:51
this. Major was having an affair with
27:52
the domestic Claire Latimer. This cost Scallywag dearly.
27:57
Of course. It turns out the Major was
27:58
having an affair, but with Edwina Curry.
28:01
The editors had been sold a red herring and although strapped
28:04
for cash, they battled on. It was only after a mysterious
28:07
break in to the cut to the office when crucial files and
28:10
computers were removed that Simon began to lose heart.
28:13
And then it goes on to say that Angus went on to produce spiked
28:17
a couple of issues which you can also find on the Scalawag
28:20
archive site. Angus was killed in a car
28:23
accident in inverted commas. Simon died in 2000, age 58,
28:28
thwarted in his attempts to expose his attempts to expose
28:31
paedophilia in high places. Well, look, the the
28:35
investigations that they carried out as you say Brian were
28:38
absolutely spectacular and I would say that that nobody has
28:44
come close to date to. To what they identified and
28:49
particularly what was taking part place in Morocco.
28:53
And of course now we are seeing the links with Epstein and
28:56
Morocco. Why would he want to go there?
28:58
Beautiful property is one thing, but easily obtained small
29:03
children at a very cheap price would be another.
29:06
I would guess attractive thing for him.
29:09
Indeed. Now related to this, of course,
29:11
just a week ago we put out a recording of a presentation that
29:16
was given at Auk column event in 2015.
29:19
It's, if you haven't seen it yet, it's called From Rotherham
29:21
to Epstein. Absolutely recommend everybody
29:25
watches this and please do share it as widely as you possibly can
29:28
because it is extremely important.
29:30
I think that we all have an understanding of how this
29:35
paedophilic system works. It is systemic, it is systematic
29:38
and it is something that has not gone away.
29:42
Nothing has changed. And so we've got to be aware
29:45
that whatever has happened historically, it's still
29:48
happening indeed. OK, let's let's move on to the
29:52
the justice system then and let's bring David Lammy on
29:56
screen. Because having just returned
29:58
from the AI Summit in India, he then headed straight to the
30:03
Microsoft AI Tour at the Excel Centre in London on Tuesday to
30:07
give a speech on the modernization of the justice
30:10
system, the so called justice system.
30:12
It was a bit hilarious because the people there were somewhat,
30:16
well, they weren't necessarily interested in what he was
30:19
saying. But anyway, he, what he did say
30:22
was that he wanted to present his vision for the future of the
30:25
court system and that will, he said, deliver faster and fairer
30:29
justice for victims by combining investment reform and
30:33
modernisation. No, I'm quite sure it's not his
30:36
vision. I'm sure it's somebody else's.
30:38
And I'm sure that it isn't going to deliver faster and fairer
30:41
justice for victims. I think it's more likely, much
30:44
more likely that this is all about building out another part
30:47
of the panopticon. But let's just have a listen to
30:50
a little bit of what he said. And I do suggest you try not to
30:55
lose your lunch. But let's let's listen to this.
30:59
I can announce that we will fund unlimited sitting days in the
31:05
Crown Court next year. This will be the highest number
31:09
ever funded in the history of this country.
31:12
We will also fund the Magistrates courts to hear as
31:15
many cases as we estimate the system can deliver, backed up by
31:20
funding to recruit and train more magistrates to meet the
31:23
demand, and a national campaign to boost the ranks of our
31:26
magistrate, increasing its size to 21,000 by 2029.
31:33
Together this will enable the criminal courts to get through
31:36
more work than ever before. And of course, it means that
31:40
victims get justice as quickly as possible.
31:43
It is part of a record 2.78 billion settlement for the
31:51
courts and the tribunals over the coming year, which includes
31:55
287,000,000 for the fabric of the estate itself, delivering
32:01
more vital repairs and digital upgrades to court buildings up
32:06
and down the country. OK.
32:09
So, so that's what he had to say, 2.45 billion.
32:12
That seems like value for money, Brian.
32:15
Yeah, let let's get people into court.
32:18
This is the important thing. Of course, the the backlog that
32:21
drives all of his agenda and Leveson's agenda as well comes
32:25
on the excuse of the damage done during lockdown.
32:28
But let's get more people into court, Mike.
32:31
For me, this man is one of the most dangerous people in the
32:34
country. Leveson's there on his shoulder,
32:38
but softly spoken. But this, this is the state, the
32:42
dictatorship being put into place in front of our eyes.
32:46
Well, let's bring it back on screen then, because he set out
32:48
several key measures that will be part that'll be taken forward
32:52
from Part 2 of Sir Brian Leveson's independent review of
32:55
criminal courts. I laugh at that statement, but
32:58
anyway, this he, he said that Leveson considered the way cases
33:04
are listed. So the national listing
33:07
framework is another thing that he's announced.
33:09
And this is supposedly about standardising the process of how
33:14
it's decided when cases are heard and so on.
33:17
Now, there's no mention of this new court listing framework
33:19
being made available to the press or the public following
33:22
the removal of that facility that we reported on a week or
33:25
two ago. But he says it's going to help
33:28
address what many of you as a post code lottery for victims of
33:31
crime. And this is going to help ensure
33:34
serious cases like rape and sexual offences are treated with
33:36
the consistency and urgency they deserve.
33:39
So that's his position. So these are the key areas that
33:43
that they want to advertise. They are talking about the
33:47
highest ever funding deal. Well, he talked about that a
33:50
second ago. No, no Crown Court sitting days
33:53
cap. So no more restriction on the
33:54
number of days that the Crown Court can be sitting 287 million
33:58
in the estate and and digital upgrades and funding for
34:02
magistrates courts at full capacity.
34:05
As I say that, he then describes what sitting days are and they
34:09
talk about the key role and in how quickly cases move through
34:13
the system and so on. But then he went on to say, last
34:17
year we piloted an AI tool. So now we start to get to the
34:21
the, the basis of the thing. So they're talking about
34:24
piloting an AI tool there in the probation service, Justice
34:28
Transcribe, which records meetings between officers and
34:32
defenders and the need for handwritten notes to be typed up
34:36
later. He wants to see many more AI
34:39
initiatives like this. So they're going to invest more
34:42
in the in house Justice AI unit, 12 million in additional
34:46
funding. But on top of that, they're
34:48
going to go even further because they're going to strengthen
34:50
their relationship with Microsoft and others, piloting
34:53
the solutions of UK based start UPS in order to create, as you
34:57
will see in one second, an unprecedented partnership
35:01
between the public and private sectors.
35:03
And that's what this is all about.
35:04
It's this massive public private partnership that Ben Rubin talks
35:09
about so often. This is absolutely key to how
35:12
the governance of this country is being changed.
35:15
Let's just have a brief listen to how he justified this.
35:21
We face an uncomfortable truth. The world has changed and the
35:25
justice system has not. From our huge investment in our
35:30
courts, bigger than ever before, to our comprehensive reform
35:33
programme, the biggest since 1971.
35:36
We will renew the system after years of decline so that it's
35:40
serious about justices that exist today, and once again,
35:45
we're able to deliver the swifter outcomes that victims
35:49
should be able to expect and have always deserved.
35:55
So it's the usual froth. It's all about the victims
35:58
helping the victims. But of course, the courts are
36:01
closing in on free people. Absolutely.
36:05
So then yesterday Lamme announced the Courts and
36:08
Tribunal Bill, which is the legislation which is going along
36:11
with all this. And he also produced this shiny
36:15
new propaganda website. If we bring that on screen to,
36:19
to add further justification to all this.
36:21
And it's it's, it's pathetic really.
36:23
But anyway, just finally why we leave that on screen on juries.
36:28
In a speech, he claimed that these changes are not going to
36:30
diminish the role of juries because juries are the
36:32
cornerstone, he said, of justice in the UK.
36:35
And then with a perfectly straight face, he said that he
36:37
will diminish the role of juries, of course, by removing
36:40
them from more types of cases than ever because jury trials
36:43
take twice as long as other kinds of trials.
36:45
Well, we knew this was coming, and we at the UK column with
36:48
Brian has reported this recently.
36:50
But my question is, with the direction of travel that we're
36:54
seeing here, how long is it going to be before juries are
36:57
made up of 12 Claude or ChatGPT agents?
37:00
Because that seems to be where we're heading.
37:03
Absolutely. That's where we're heading.
37:06
Like they want to get rid of human beings in the system
37:09
because human beings can show compassion and we bring in jury
37:14
nullification which helps us absolutely remove bad law.
37:19
AI solves all that problem. Yes, OK, let's move on then.
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so and I believe you're not too far away from this yourself,
39:00
Brian. From from what for?
39:03
Portrait. Well, yes, Portrait, the last
39:06
time I saw it had been sort of 90% completed.
39:12
I think I got off pretty lightly.
39:13
It was a very enjoyable experience because we had a lot
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of fun talking. But yeah, sat in the chair.
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I did mention the dentist at one at one point, which I don't
39:23
think I think that made Jake laugh actually.
39:27
But we will see what what the audience think of of my
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portrait. I'm shaking my head.
39:34
Yeah. But that's that's for a future
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39:54
Couple of interviews on the way in the next few days, Right
39:59
Brian? On Monday's programme you showed
40:01
a little bit of Patrick's initial report from Mexico on
40:05
what had been happening there following the killing of the
40:08
drug Lord. What?
40:10
He sent another report today. Well, he's sent a very
40:13
comprehensive report. It's too long for us to show as
40:17
one on today's news. So we've got some segments which
40:21
I think are really excellent. And what we'll do is we'll run
40:25
through those. So this first one is really an
40:28
introduction. Again, a scene setter where
40:31
Patrick is there in Mexico and he's talking about being there
40:35
and what's happened. And then we'll work through into
40:38
the other second segments when he starts to focus in in more
40:42
detail about who's involved and and ultimately what political,
40:48
geopolitical forces seem to be impacting on Mexican politics.
40:53
So let's have a look at Patrick in a pretty sunny location.
40:58
I'm still a little bit jealousy, albeit a troubled A troubled
41:02
place at the moment. We're reporting from Puerto
41:06
Vallarta in Mexico. This is on the West Coast of the
41:09
country. And on Sunday, February 22nd,
41:13
the unthinkable happened. This is normally a place, a
41:17
destination known for it's sun, it's great weather.
41:19
This is a major tourist hub not only for Americans but for
41:23
Canadians as well as Europeans. And in the early hours of
41:27
Sunday, a raid took place. The Mexican federal forces
41:32
conducted a raid on a cartel member from the Jalisco Cartel
41:37
New Generation. And his name was Nemicio El
41:41
Mancho Aceguera Cervantes. And this is a major cartel
41:46
leader that was apparently killed during the raid.
41:50
Now, this was meant to capture him, but he did die on route to
41:55
hospital facilities. Four other gunmen were also
41:59
killed during this raid. As a result of this, the cartel
42:03
in question mounted a massive wave of retaliation beginning
42:08
here in Puerto Vallarta. And this was the early hours of
42:13
Sunday morning. This resulted in unrest on the
42:17
streets. There were clashes between law
42:20
enforcement and the cartel numbers, but most notably, there
42:23
were buses and cars burned. Tax happened all over the city.
42:27
This wasn't even confined to part of Vallarta.
42:31
This is a city of approximately 300,000 of which there are, you
42:35
know, upwards of 50,000 of those are expats from North America
42:40
and other destinations have settled down here.
42:42
So big international presence in terms of foreigners.
42:46
Now, other cities in the Jalisco region in this part of Mexico
42:51
like Guadalajara were also affected by the clashes and the
42:56
unrest. Even as far South as Cancun was
43:00
a city that was under lockdown. Now, the raid took place in
43:05
Tapalpa. Now this is known as a sort of
43:08
cartel stronghold, which is located approximately 400
43:12
kilometres southeast of Puerto Vallarta where we are now.
43:17
But you know, the, the retaliation was all across the
43:21
city. Buildings were set on fire.
43:24
We, we have been given footage from some of the people who live
43:29
here. We'll show some of that.
43:30
But buildings were set on fire, cars set on fire, buses as well,
43:35
taxis. We even have one report of a
43:39
taxi which was attacked outside or very near the conference
43:42
centre where we were participating.
43:47
So a really good introduction there.
43:49
But one of the key things that Patrick had stressed was that
43:52
for most people in Mexico, the thing emerged out of nowhere.
43:57
So the the the destruction of the violence appeared on the
44:01
streets, and that was a big shock.
44:03
And then there was a lockdown. Now as it's calmed down, more
44:07
pieces are coming to the surface.
44:09
So in this next report from Patrick, he's having a little
44:13
bit more about the drivers. And so he's talking politics and
44:17
he's also in particular talking about the power of the cartels,
44:22
one in particular. This was deemed by the Mexican
44:28
authorities as a codingo Rojo, which is code red.
44:31
So major civil emergency. And you know, looking at this,
44:36
just stepping back my initial evaluation, my initial feeling
44:41
was this was a power struggle. This is a constant power
44:44
struggle between law enforcement in Mexico.
44:47
It's not confined to Mexico. Of course, there's other Central
44:49
American countries where this power struggle is ongoing.
44:52
And, and of course, the cartels and, you know, various
44:55
government agencies and, and the various cartels, a new
44:59
generation of Jalisco being one of the biggest and most
45:03
powerful, not just in Mexico, but in the world, in fact.
45:07
So normally what you would have is a symbolic retaliation.
45:11
If governments mounted any kind of operation like this and the
45:16
cartels have to retaliate, they have to have a show of force.
45:19
Otherwise they could risk be, you know, other rival cartels
45:23
could see this as weakness. So they have to make a
45:27
statement, a public statement, IE driving buses into
45:30
intersections, you know, holding up the economy of a city like
45:35
Puerto Vallarta. You know, it, it's a major
45:38
disruption. It's a major statement.
45:40
So they did that. What the government did in
45:43
return is, well, it was odd because you know, we did.
45:47
We saw that streets were empty. As you can see from the footage
45:51
which we share at the time, the streets were empty.
45:53
We didn't see a lot of EMS, certainly not a lot of fire
45:56
departments. I mean, in many cases there's
45:58
buildings just burned and cars just burned.
46:01
So no EMS, very few police officers, at least where we were
46:05
in the centre of the city. So it was, it was a bit strange.
46:09
I mean, people were, were speculating whether this was
46:12
staged. There's all sorts of theories
46:15
abound as you could imagine here because no one had ever seen
46:19
anything quite this extensive, especially hitting multiple
46:23
cities as well. So from that point of view, it
46:26
was unique in a unique event. We knew we're seeing something
46:30
here that you know, hadn't seen before.
46:32
But with cartels like CJ and G or the Jalisco cartel new
46:37
generation, you, you'll see this is their brand, which is on all
46:41
of their products here. So they have a, a near monopoly,
46:45
you could say, in terms of in the drug trade through Mexico.
46:50
And you'll see this is their, their sort of corporate brand,
46:53
if you will, of the cartels, which appears on all their
46:55
products to ensure you know the, the products quality and
46:59
reliability, much like an international corporation.
47:03
So they're protecting their brand and they're well known
47:07
throughout the region and beyond.
47:11
I mean, that's a very interesting point.
47:13
My question is, do international corporations actually behave any
47:17
differently to the Mexican drug cartels?
47:19
Well, the international corporations try, try, try to do
47:24
it as if they are squeaky clean. At least if you deal with a
47:26
cartel, you know what you're dealing with.
47:29
So maybe the cartel get the get the points on that.
47:35
Really tremendous reporting from Patrick And this next sex a
47:40
segment he is delving deeper into what what I call the
47:44
geopolitical drivers. So it's happening in Mexico, but
47:50
what actually is also impacting on the country and who's got a
47:53
finger in the pie. Let's have a look at this next
47:56
segment. Just before this, there were
48:00
reports that Claudia Scheinbaum, she is the president of Mexico,
48:04
she had been instituting a major crackdown, you know, taking out
48:09
some of the corrupt officials at the mayoral level, county or
48:12
regional level, as well as within the federal government
48:16
from the previous Obrador government and and also the
48:18
Calderon government. Just sort of legacy positions
48:21
that were somehow caught up in the middle of these corruption
48:25
rings between government cartels and politicians.
48:30
So that that was going on. So and then this happened.
48:33
Now this you have to also look at the fact is if you want to
48:38
really now see what might be driving this geopolitically.
48:41
This comes on the heels of Trump making major announcements that
48:45
he is going to, you know, use the US military to take down the
48:49
cartels. So think about that for a
48:52
moment. And then Trump was accusing the
48:54
Mexican president shine bomb of that, saying the cartels are
48:58
running Mexico. She's not running Mexico, says
49:00
Trump. The cartels are running Mexico.
49:02
A major a major sort of insult. But at the same time, she's
49:06
cooperating with the US government and the US
49:10
intelligence and so forth to try to, you know, restrict the flow
49:14
of drugs coming in, most notably fentanyl into the United States.
49:19
So this is all going on, by the way, Elon Musk also piles in
49:23
claiming that she's working for the cartels or something to that
49:27
effect. And now Scheinbaum is suing Elon
49:30
Musk for defamation. So that that's another byproduct
49:35
of this. It seems like Musk wants to get
49:36
in Trump's good book by attacking Trump's perceived
49:41
political enemies. Now, when I say perceived
49:44
political enemies, why would the Mexican president be an enemy of
49:47
Trump? Well, there's a lot of potential
49:49
answers to that, but one of them is that Scheinbaum wants to aid
49:54
Cuba. the US is imposing a military blockade on Cuba to
49:58
strangle the country and create, you know, famine, chaos, just
50:03
punish Cuba for having the government.
50:06
It does. So it's it's not allowing fuel
50:08
in. Things are getting to a crisis
50:10
moment in Cuba. Mexico is one of those countries
50:12
that will come to the aid of Cuba and, you know, wants to to
50:15
deliver oil to them to break the US blockade.
50:18
So that's quite interesting if you think about it.
50:21
Now make a mental note there for a second as to the, that's an
50:26
important data point there. The second is Trump has recently
50:30
proscribed, Trump has recently proscribed the various drug
50:35
gangs as terrorist groups. OK, What does that mean?
50:39
That means that when the US government or the British
50:42
government or anybody proscribes some kind of a gang or
50:46
organisations, a terrorist group, it means that they can
50:48
take away due process and it means they can engage with that
50:52
supposed terror threat extra judicially or extra legally,
50:56
outside of the legal process, outside of the normal judiciary
51:00
or constraints of law. This is what supposed, this is
51:03
what designating terrorist groups gives Western governments
51:07
in the 21st century, the ability to bypass any due process or law
51:11
just by labelling them an international terrorist group.
51:15
What does this do? This gives the US the ability to
51:19
engage inside Mexico either from an intelligence point of view or
51:24
from a military point of view as well.
51:27
So this potentially is open the door.
51:30
The other thing this has done is put a lot of pressure on
51:32
Scheinbaum because what's what's happened here is this is not
51:37
only does she want to assist Cuba, which obviously is
51:41
angering Washington that anybody would dare to give any
51:44
humanitarian assistance to to Cuba, but Mexico is also
51:49
recognising Palestine as a state, OK, And also is a
51:54
rebuffed Trump's, you know, membership offer for the Board
51:58
of peace in Gaza. So from, you know, from from the
52:02
Israeli lobby point of view, Mexico and other Latin American
52:06
governments like Venezuela are deemed as enemies.
52:09
And so the Israel, the Israelis are trying to push the Isaac
52:12
Accords, which is the Abraham Accords for Latin America.
52:15
They're trying to flip all these governments to far right
52:18
governments and then get them to be pro Israel and reverse the UN
52:21
vote on Palestine. That's basically the the long
52:26
and the short of the Isaac Accords.
52:28
So that's interesting. It does get even more
52:30
interesting if you go a little bit deeper.
52:32
So this is way beyond the so called Donro doctrine of US, you
52:37
know, flexing its muscles in in the Western Hemisphere.
52:40
Scheinbaum has also made a statement condemning the US for
52:45
US weapons going into the hands of the cartels.
52:48
So she made a statement to that effect.
52:54
Obviously Patrick limited for time and we've we've had to cut
52:58
these clips down by bringing in a lot of very interesting points
53:02
around what has happened here. And it starts to get deeper and
53:07
more opaque the more you look at.
53:09
Now there is one short clip to finish on.
53:11
But I wonder whether before we go there, Basil, if you've been
53:15
able to hear that, hear those clips OK, whether you've got any
53:18
comments on what, what, what your thoughts are on what's
53:22
taken place. Well the the initial raid sounds
53:26
like something out of Scarface doesn't it?
53:28
With the cartel leader and four of his hench men all dying
53:32
presumably as a result of gunfire.
53:34
You know, very dramatic, you know, American action film type
53:37
events. But you know Scheinbaum who is a
53:40
self Jewish. Incidentally, the president of
53:42
Mexico has made moves to recognise Palestine, and it is a
53:47
fact that 90% of the weapons that the cartels use come from
53:51
the United States and the other 10% are Israeli.
53:54
So we have to wonder, therefore, with all Trump's accusations of
53:58
Sheinbaum being in the pocket of the cartels, who in fact is
54:02
supplying these American weapons.
54:05
A few years ago, the death toll in the Mexican drug wars was
54:08
around 50,000 people brutally murdered.
54:11
I think that's now more like 60 or 70,000.
54:14
I mean, the numbers of people murdered, often very
54:17
sadistically, are absolutely off the charts.
54:20
And if Scheinbaum is finally getting to grips with the
54:23
situation, so much the better. And lastly, yes, the Isaac
54:27
Accords, honestly, they give names to these things.
54:29
Israel has got its man in place with Malay in Argentina,
54:33
although I don't think he's going to last very much longer,
54:36
and they would dutley love to see that replicated.
54:38
They've got recalcitrant leaders in Brazil and Colombia amongst
54:43
others. So we'd have to see how that
54:46
develops in the coming months and years.
54:49
Basil, thank you very much for that.
54:51
And a nice little segue into Patrick's last comments.
54:56
You've mentioned weapons. Let's see what Patrick has to
55:00
say. Now, we've been covering this
55:03
for years at 21st Century Wire Operation Fast and Furious.
55:07
We we've documented this problem an ongoing issue, but this
55:12
recent report by Freddie Ponton, which we filed this week, great
55:16
investigation by by a great journalist there.
55:20
He is basically saying that most of the weapons in Mexico or
55:25
Israeli and American origin, huge amounts of Israeli weapons
55:29
as well as 150,050 calibre rounds that were also traced to
55:35
the US military. And you have to what do you have
55:38
to realise is these cartels like Jalisco cartel, new generation,
55:45
they, they're armed to the teeth.
55:48
I mean, here's a video from 2020 where you can see just how well
55:54
armed and equipped they are. So in some cases probably be
55:57
better equipped than the Mexican military in some cases.
56:02
So there's there's that to contend with as well.
56:06
We also have the, the, the Ukrainian Foreign Legion
56:10
recruiting from the, the, the Mexican, Latin American
56:14
Colombian drug cartels to train fighters to fight in Ukraine to
56:19
learn UAV drone training as well as urban warfare tactics.
56:26
And then ostensibly bringing those back to Mexico or back to
56:31
Latin America on behalf of the cartels.
56:33
So that the PMC is private military companies were actively
56:37
recruiting among those sectors to bring them to Ukraine.
56:42
So this was also reported and and confirmed by Russian SVR
56:46
intelligence. So there's that Ukrainian angle
56:49
as well. So the US would have full
56:51
knowledge of this because they were effectively managing
56:54
operations in Ukraine. So for anyone in the US or U.S.
56:58
intelligence to play dumb on this it would be disingenuous.
57:03
So clearly a lot more to be said on Mexico because there's many
57:07
fingers in the pie and very interesting that the darker
57:11
those and more dangerous those fingers are, the more trouble
57:15
there is for the Mexican people, which is a common theme we're
57:18
seeing in countries around the world.
57:21
So we'll do more on that in the in the forthcoming days and
57:27
Patrick no doubt be giving us more material in any case.
57:31
Yeah, we'll have the full report on the UK column website after
57:34
the news programme this afternoon.
57:36
Basil, let me welcome you back to the programme.
57:38
If we just bring this Telegraph article on screen here because
57:42
this is quite an interesting headline, this headline saying
57:47
and most of the other mainstream press recovering this and more
57:49
or less the same thing. Nottingham killer was not
57:52
sectioned because he was black. Valdo Callican was given at home
57:57
treatment plan after psychotic episode because of over over
58:00
representation of young black males in detention.
58:07
Absolutely off the charts. And it ended in tragedy when he
58:10
murdered three people, two young students and a 65 year old care
58:16
worker. And as you say, Mike, he wasn't
58:20
sectioned because of apparently the over representation of black
58:23
people in mental health institutions, something that the
58:28
health secretary was treating, described in December as
58:32
unacceptable. But surely any mental health
58:36
decision about sectioning A paranoid schizophrenic who may
58:39
be capable of extreme violence should.
58:42
Be. Purely on clinical grounds, the
58:46
colour of his skin must be irrelevant.
58:48
Anybody's skin. So the idea that Streeting wants
58:52
to go now towards sort of quotas of number of people, I mean if,
58:56
if it's unacceptable that black people are overrepresented
59:00
amongst those sectioned, then what is he?
59:03
Is he proposing to actually do something about this?
59:05
Well, if so, this is the result, isn't it?
59:07
And three people have lost their lives.
59:09
It's absolutely beggars belief mate, it really does.
59:13
Basil, if to add, this just comes into my head, but if you,
59:18
if you remove the clinical diagnosis part of the pathway to
59:23
putting somebody into a psychiatric unit or not putting
59:29
them in, but putting them in, you're, you're actually well on
59:32
your way to the, you know, to the true sort of Soviet state
59:35
where the psychiatric gulag forms part of the overall prison
59:41
system. So I, I wonder whether something
59:45
a lot darker is going on here. This is meddling, possibly just
59:49
to see how the public reacts to this.
59:51
Well, we'll, we can talk more about this an extra because I
59:55
want to bring in the parallels between this type of incident
59:59
and the way that the grooming gangs were permitted to continue
1:00:03
their activities, allegedly because the people in positions
1:00:08
of authority were worried about being perceived as as racist in
1:00:11
some way. So anyway, we'll talk about that
1:00:14
an extra bit. Let's finish with this because
1:00:16
on Wednesday, Charles was talking about the threat from
1:00:20
the Pentagon to cancel and rob anthropic contracts if Anthropic
1:00:24
did not lift safeguards. And if you remember, the article
1:00:27
said that Pete Hexus had met with.
1:00:29
Anthropic CEO on Tuesday at the Pentagon amid A dispute over the
1:00:34
AI firm's usage policy, which bars its model clawed from being
1:00:38
used for mass surveillance or to develop weapons that can be used
1:00:41
without human oversight. Now quick as a flash on
1:00:47
literally within 24 hours. Just put that back up on screen
1:00:50
a second, Chris, if you don't mind.
1:00:51
Quick as a flash. This happened because Anthropic
1:00:54
published a new hosting here, their responsible scaling policy
1:01:00
version 3 point O that was published on the 24th and it
1:01:04
says this, it says our RSP. Our new RSP introduces a
1:01:08
requirement to develop and publish a Frontier Safety Road
1:01:10
map which which will describe our concrete plans for risk
1:01:14
mitigations across the areas of security alignment, safeguards
1:01:18
and policy. Rather than being hard
1:01:20
commitments, these are public goals that we will openly grade
1:01:23
our progress towards. We may never get there, but
1:01:26
we'll head towards them. This strategy of non binding but
1:01:30
publicly declared targets borrows from the transparency
1:01:33
approach we'd be championing for frontier AI legislation,
1:01:38
although it provides the public with much more detail than this
1:01:40
required under existing legislation and from the
1:01:43
successes of our previous RSP versions.
1:01:46
So they have caved completely to Hexis threats to withdraw
1:01:53
funding and withdrawal contracts and they've removed the
1:01:57
limitation on the use of their AI product for war fighting
1:02:03
purposes. And I think that is pretty much
1:02:07
says it all, doesn't it it? Does Mike?
1:02:09
Yeah. What is?
1:02:11
Everything seems to be becoming more obvious in this crazy
1:02:15
world, but more discussion in extra yeah?
1:02:18
So we will be back in a few minutes for UK Call News Extra.
1:02:20
If you UK Call members, stay on the live stream and we'll see
1:02:24
you there in a couple of minutes.
1:02:25
Otherwise, have a great weekend. Don't forget Jerm and Carl
1:02:28
tonight and also Doc Malik at 7:00 PM on Sunday.
1:02:33
We'll see you on Monday at 1:00 PM.
1:02:35
As usual, have a great weekend. Bye bye.