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If I Identify As Black Can I Say The N Word? Feat. @NyemiahSupreme (Part Two) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, If
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, dude, so shameless.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, so shamous, so shameless and so so so seamless.
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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so shameless, say if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what I'm saying, so.
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  Speaker 3: Shame it is I'm trying to get a prickly pair
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  Speaker 3: bleeding after this?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, prickly here, Yo, Why are you
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  Speaker 4: gonna drink so much weird ship? Bro?
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  Speaker 5: Why is that weir?
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  Speaker 3: If I said I was want to get a fucking
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  Speaker 3: Moscow mule, you'd be like, oh, what.
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  Speaker 5: Made you think that?
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  Speaker 4: Because that's a yeah, I've heard that before, But I've
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  Speaker 4: never heard of prickly peers. And I think Apparol sprints
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  Speaker 4: is like super trendy now because it's orange, because they
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  Speaker 4: you know, is it the oldades is brunch drinks, prickly.
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  Speaker 2: Peer believedly just peer peer.
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  Speaker 5: It's like a certain type of pair. Yoh, y'all know
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  Speaker 5: we recorded?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea.
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  Speaker 4: Guapa Mimosa crazy a guava mimosa. I'm not mad at that.
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  Speaker 2: Guamosa sounds amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's just it's momosa, this squava. It's not crazy.
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  Speaker 4: But a prickly peer. When you saw that on the menu,
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  Speaker 4: were you when you first tried your first prickly peer?
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  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I started drinking prickly pears
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  Speaker 3: sam pellegrinos like a couple.
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  Speaker 5: Of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's so good. Yeah yeah, and then.
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  Speaker 5: It went out. They went not the commission though, damn.
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  Speaker 6: I like the blood orange ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the blood one is so bad.
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  Speaker 5: One fire.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that was my original drink, that sam
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  Speaker 3: pella greeno with the liquor. I was doing that first
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  Speaker 3: before I found a barow spurts Peace.
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  Speaker 2: Cut waters, your cut water, hold to I love such
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  Speaker 2: a bird.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody was saying name was like dying off of them,
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  Speaker 6: so like, I don't know if I want to get
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  Speaker 6: into that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't gonna die, don't just have I love a
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  Speaker 2: cutwater though?
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  Speaker 6: Like yes, like well, maybe they were mixing them with
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  Speaker 6: other things. They weren't supposed to be, probably, but they would.
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  Speaker 6: You can your teeth, bloody mouth, like the they waking
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  Speaker 6: up up after the cut water, so.
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  Speaker 2: They's on some other ship. I ain't never go through
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  Speaker 2: none of that, none of it. That's kind of crazy time.
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  Speaker 4: I've had some cut waters and they're pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Which ones did you have?
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  Speaker 5: Right there?
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  Speaker 4: I stole a Long Island iced tea cut water. I
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  Speaker 4: just my homegirl had one. She had a four packs,
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  Speaker 4: so I took one. Left the crib. I go to
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  Speaker 4: try to drink it. Oh, it was tough. That's one
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  Speaker 4: of those. It was horrible, bro. But I've had some
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  Speaker 4: good ones though, I've had. I've had some good.
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  Speaker 5: Try.
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  Speaker 2: The Express on Martini one is fire. The mango soda soda, that's.
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  Speaker 4: Not it's.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want canned coffee carbonated.
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  Speaker 2: I don't taste that. When I taste the Express on Martin.
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  Speaker 2: I drink the Express of Martini one actually really.
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  Speaker 5: Carminated.
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  Speaker 2: It's not get carbonated, Babe. Does it taste carbonated to you?
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  Speaker 2: It's not carbinating, yo, Drew.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have to agree with everything she says. She's nice,
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  Speaker 4: she's not gonna beat you.
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  Speaker 5: You no see good?
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  Speaker 2: You see because that was different. This wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: It was a light press a little bit. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: trying I'm peeling back the layers. You see what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: You see it. You I'm great being the fact that
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  Speaker 2: you never had one. I needed somebody in the room
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  Speaker 2: that actually had one espresso martini water. Have you met
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  Speaker 2: my husband or he'll.
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  Speaker 5: Distribute with you in the car on the way home.
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  Speaker 4: Not in here that nigga know how that nigga is
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  Speaker 4: going to ride for his girl his wife.
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  Speaker 2: Clean it up, Clean it up, clean it up, Clean
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  Speaker 2: it up, yo, clean it up.
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  Speaker 5: I hear I'm married one more time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm married from you?
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  Speaker 5: Why do you need to do it so much?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's fun?
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  Speaker 4: The people in the comments talking about, yeah, but I'm married,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm married though, oh yeah, but ask my husband
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  Speaker 4: what is Why do you do.
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  Speaker 5: It so much?
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  Speaker 2: Because they be in the comments acting like I'm some angry, miserable,
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  Speaker 2: lonely bitch with four cats. Ask my husband and anybody
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  Speaker 2: feel away.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not mad at that they say.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that they do in a comments
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  Speaker 3: be saying that they be batting on it, like y'all
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  Speaker 3: bet my last dollars.
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  Speaker 2: I bet my bottom dollar that the go and nobody
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  Speaker 2: likes her. She's mid You're you're a two at best.
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  Speaker 6: Ask my husband, what do you be doing to them
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  Speaker 6: on this?
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  Speaker 2: I just talk like I just say things, and they
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  Speaker 2: clip it and all the men get upset. And they
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  Speaker 2: get upset because how dare I just be a dark skinned,
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  Speaker 2: loud mouth girl and say things and speak up to men?
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  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Suck my deck?
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  Speaker 5: Damn.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a bread stand too, crazy ballparks for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: The frank stand is always open for anybody that got
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  Speaker 2: I have a clip for that. I have a clip
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  Speaker 2: for that. Clip it the.
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  Speaker 8: Loss of some of the things that you can incorporate
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  Speaker 8: into your life if you would like to be more feminine. Disclaimer,
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  Speaker 8: my advice is given with the intent of you getting
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  Speaker 8: a man or a husband to go through this process.
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  Speaker 8: It should be for you for your own benefit, for
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  Speaker 8: your own growth.
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  Speaker 9: Some listeners, I don't hear.
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  Speaker 8: This talked about a lot, But forgiveness is such an
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  Speaker 8: important step. Let me explain to you why when you
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  Speaker 8: harbor so many harmful emotions, so anger, jealousy, envy, resentment,
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  Speaker 8: all of those emotions get stored within you and they
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  Speaker 8: reflect in your appearance, in your aura, in your demeanor,
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  Speaker 8: in the way that you carry yourself as you go
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  Speaker 8: through life. People will do things to you. Things will
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  Speaker 8: continue to happen, and if you keep carrying the baggage
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  Speaker 8: of all of those events, you're going to harden up.
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  Speaker 9: That is the opposite of femininity.
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  Speaker 8: It's not being hard, it's being soft Internally. That softness
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  Speaker 8: will make its way out into the world.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 8: Secondly, when I say soft, I don't.
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  Speaker 9: Mean being nice and sweet all the time. The way
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  Speaker 9: to being soft is to have hard boundaries. So that's
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  Speaker 9: number two.
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  Speaker 8: When you create boundaries for yourself and you enforce them,
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  Speaker 8: you are basically teaching the world how to respond to you,
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  Speaker 8: not trying to get.
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  Speaker 9: Everyone to like you. You're not trying to change anyone's behavior.
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  Speaker 8: But you've said an expectation and you were going to
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  Speaker 8: ensure that you get that and you also give it
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  Speaker 8: to other people.
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  Speaker 9: Number three is your communications pitch.
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  Speaker 8: Are important, but what's more important than that is your
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  Speaker 8: ability to express yourself clearly and concisely, being articulate and
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  Speaker 8: being emotionally.
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  Speaker 6: The room, you see, she didn't really get something like feminine.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just like human. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Forgive God, you.
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  Speaker 4: Think she was talking bullshit? You get I'm asking another
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  Speaker 4: press Yeah, why you keep pressing me?
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  Speaker 5: I thought we was good? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Why did you ask me that? But why did you
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  Speaker 2: ask me that like that? I didn't like that. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't like your tone. Can you fix it?
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  Speaker 5: You were chuckling like the Riddler? So I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you must have.
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  Speaker 2: I was left.
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  Speaker 6: I think the name of this episode is you good
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  Speaker 6: fine nocause you did that last time?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. If that's if that's what she thinks, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there's nothing wrong what she said.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think she said anything.
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  Speaker 5: She said stop.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, TikTok videos. Would they just be talking
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  Speaker 6: but they're not saying saying nothing?
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  Speaker 5: You don't think that she said nothing.
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  Speaker 2: She said go to therapy. She said, change your tone.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know. The window was open for us,
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  Speaker 2: and I heard the traffic forgiveness that therapy.
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  Speaker 6: Why is that like for feminine?
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  Speaker 2: Like establishing boundaries. I established boundaries all the time.
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  Speaker 5: It was like human, just that being soft that comes
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  Speaker 5: from the inside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, speak nicely to the people in the world.
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  Speaker 5: I agree. I agree. You feel like you're women?
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  Speaker 2: Do I feel like what?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you feel like you're soft, not to you.
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  Speaker 2: Not with you, not not around the general public. No, No,
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  Speaker 2: you have a soft woman, not around the masses. Not
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  Speaker 2: in gen pop.
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  Speaker 6: What is soft? What is a soft woman?
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  Speaker 2: Not in gen pop?
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  Speaker 6: What is a soft woman?
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 5: A soft woman? Soft woman?
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  Speaker 3: I think in general, I think is a soft spoken,
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  Speaker 3: easy going, not combative, not confrontational. I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: general consent. So I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Doormati ish docile.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, why a y'all connecting?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: Why are you connecting what I said with those things?
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  Speaker 2: Because that's basically what you something.
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  Speaker 6: One of the one of the easy going Maybe I
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  Speaker 6: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Easy going, easy going and soft spoken?
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  Speaker 5: When what what's one of the things I said?
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  Speaker 6: That's just a spread?
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  Speaker 5: What is wrong with a woman is being easy going?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing?
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  Speaker 4: And why does a woman need to not be pussy?
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  Speaker 2: Whatever it is that? Because, how about let's test it.
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  Speaker 2: How about we decide to be soft women for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the episode. Let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see why I don't understand what you're doing
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 2: We're not doing anything.
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna let you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Being soft is the voice.
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  Speaker 5: Being soft is divorced demeanor.
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  Speaker 6: The approach the calmness, easy going got from that. No,
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  Speaker 6: but that's that's what.
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  Speaker 4: It is, because I don't think that that's what men
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  Speaker 4: mean when we're talking soft. Soft. He just told you,
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  Speaker 4: he said.
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  Speaker 2: Easy solf, So now I'm not you have to calm
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  Speaker 2: He said, not combative?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think? Softest?
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  Speaker 2: Not combative?
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  Speaker 5: Not going? Not combative is what is combative?
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  Speaker 2: Having an opinion that is not tied to a man's.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what makes us soft?
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  Speaker 4: Compative? Combative means wanting to fight and.
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  Speaker 6: Argue, answer, answer back, or have a different opinion. Would
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  Speaker 6: that be combative?
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  Speaker 2: Or is that nagging? That's nagging? We can't.
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  Speaker 5: Just to be clear, this is soft.
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  Speaker 4: This is what you're doing right now is soft. You're
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  Speaker 4: actually being aggressive, passive, trying to trick.
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to what it's like?
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  Speaker 6: It's like, do you I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't even know what being softest I do?
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  Speaker 6: Do you want me to make your plate? Is that?
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  Speaker 5: Hold on? Hold one?
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  Speaker 3: Ya both had the leg cross the shame Exactlyay you No.
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  Speaker 2: My leg has been crossed for quite some time because
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  Speaker 2: I have on a very short skirt.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't say who I'm going to aggressive, not
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  Speaker 6: on purpose, like I said, like through my experiences with
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  Speaker 6: men in music industry, like that I've become like hardened
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  Speaker 6: and how I interact with men and of that, like
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  Speaker 6: you don't ever want to feel like they feel like
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  Speaker 6: you're someone that can walk over or control, even like
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  Speaker 6: being controlled has its, like things like I have an opinion,
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  Speaker 6: I'm smart, I have thoughts. Just because you're a man
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  Speaker 6: and you think that what you say or think is
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  Speaker 6: right doesn't mean that I should shut up and accept
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  Speaker 6: it right. And maybe going against the grain on those
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  Speaker 6: things can make you seem more aggressive and not soft.
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  Speaker 6: Not letting a man just say whatever he want to
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  Speaker 6: say and think and being.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's right, So you got it, baby, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know it all?
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  Speaker 2: Let me?
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  Speaker 6: Does that make me not?
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  Speaker 2: And your slippers?
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  Speaker 6: He's right?
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  Speaker 4: Do you I think that y'allous? Do you think that
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  Speaker 4: y'all present more have like a more masculine I.
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  Speaker 6: Would say I do, and and not accepting bullshit can
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  Speaker 6: come off as aggressive and masculine, Like you know, do.
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  Speaker 4: You think that there's a feminine way to not accept bullshit? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I can start doing like the Spanish bitches doing and
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  Speaker 2: you start throwing stuff at you.
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  Speaker 6: Or I can shut up and then in my head
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  Speaker 6: say like this, nigga, don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, just talk shit about you with my friends
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  Speaker 2: and with my family, but never to your face directly
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  Speaker 2: so ever, like never actually like affecting any type of change,
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  Speaker 2: just allowing you to walk through the world and never
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  Speaker 2: loving you or caring about you enough to actually say, like, mmm,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you should rethink that maybe there's a different way
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  Speaker 2: of going about that, like never actually giving you any
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  Speaker 2: type of competition or any type of like thought process
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  Speaker 2: that's beyond yours and other men, because some men think
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  Speaker 2: because they were born with a penis that that automatically
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  Speaker 2: makes them a man and they just know things.
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  Speaker 4: And that's males out here.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of males, but they don't know that.
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  Speaker 4: Talking about women right now, and I think that women
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  Speaker 4: that exist in their femininity and they're like they know
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  Speaker 4: how to exude that control men. They actually know how
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  Speaker 4: to change the room through their femininity. They don't have
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  Speaker 4: to change their aura to masculinity in order to do it.
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  Speaker 4: But especially in New York, I feel like we tend
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  Speaker 4: the ladies here tend to do that more.
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  Speaker 6: I would say, I know women like that, and in
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  Speaker 6: some of those cases, I'm like, wow, can you take
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  Speaker 6: care of me too?
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  Speaker 4: Like exactly, But I think that that's what its me.
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  Speaker 4: While we speak about the loss of men and masculinity
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  Speaker 4: with men, I think that, especially in New York, there's
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  Speaker 4: a loss in femininity in women, and the idea of
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  Speaker 4: it comes off like y'all expect to be plusy or
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  Speaker 4: subservient or submissive or you know, like or a quiet docile.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not what it is. Living in your femininity
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  Speaker 4: to me, to me, to you is because Naima says
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  Speaker 4: something like, yo, you want me to make your plate?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely what you mean.
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  Speaker 2: That's also just respect.
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  Speaker 4: But I would also make your plate right like that,
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  Speaker 4: doesn't you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like that.
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  Speaker 2: I am. I am very curious to know what does
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  Speaker 2: living and your femininity mean to you.
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  Speaker 4: I think the way not only just the way you present,
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  Speaker 4: but the way you affect the room when you walk
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  Speaker 4: in the room, the way you speak is powerful yet feminine.
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  Speaker 4: It isn't uh have doesn't have a masculine energy like confront,
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  Speaker 4: bump your chest, we could fight, suck my dick like.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like those.
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  Speaker 4: Are all masculine traits, but a woman that is feminine.
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  Speaker 4: I think it is very I don't want to say soft,
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  Speaker 4: because you already ate your soft the.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck up because it is soft.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so cash it. I believe walks in feminine.
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  Speaker 4: You know Cash. I don't think she has a mask
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  Speaker 4: that she's very alpha, but I don't think she's very alpha.
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  Speaker 5: She don't you the fuck apart. But I don't think
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  Speaker 5: it's masculine.
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  Speaker 2: I think that what she has she has a superpower.
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  Speaker 2: And I think her superpower, no but her specifically. I
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  Speaker 2: think that her superpower is a power to be aggressive
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  Speaker 2: and even cut throat, but with a soft voice that
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  Speaker 2: does not come across condescendant. I think that that is
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  Speaker 2: a superpower of hers. And I don't know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of women from New York specifically that have mastered that superpower.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: But that's an anomaly.
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe that.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe it should be. I believe in New
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  Speaker 4: York she might be. Yeah, I don't believe That's why
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  Speaker 4: her book Honey on your Tongue exists because there's a
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  Speaker 4: way to control men with the way you speak the present,
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  Speaker 4: the way you treat them, and that is called femininity.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all ever heard it, because y'all
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  Speaker 4: grew up here.
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  Speaker 2: No shut up.
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  Speaker 6: But even if she said, like, I feel like that's
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  Speaker 6: while we were trying to speak like, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that because because when we do it, because
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: they know that we're bullshit. And but when Kasha does it,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: like it's like it's like she's almost like an actress.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: It's almost like boom scene and she like jumps into
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a scene and it doesn't feel like it's being forced.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: They know they we're forcing it because no. I think
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: that what I appreciate about Kasha and women like her
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: is the fact that it is a game. It is
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a play, and they know how to play. I don't
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: respect niggas enough to even play with y'all. Like, I
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: don't even want you to think that I'm trying to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: coddle you in any way, shape or form, like when
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I'm when I'm when I'm telling you about yourself, I
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: want it to hurt. I want I want knives to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: be on my tongue. I don't want honey on my
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: tongue because I don't want you. If I'm coming at
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: you like that. I really don't even want you to
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: take a second and think like, oh my gosh, she
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: cares so much about me. This is why I want
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you to know. It's dead ass fuck you suck my dick.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: But if I do love you and I do care
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: about you, I will be way more cognizant. But it's
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: not a lot of niggas that's gonna get that from me.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I want to hurt you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: I was thinking just that, Like I've spoken this before,
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: like past relationship, young young relationships when you're like naive
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: and you're like giving your own and you are soft,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: and then you come across those instances where things don't
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: work out and you feel like the energy and effort
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: that you put in to someone just purely like loving
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: them and being intentional when it's taken as a joke
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: or you know, or like this bitch is bitch.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Is dumb because yeah, like you're talking your boys about
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: like it, this bitch is weak. I said this to her,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and then she done it like nah, it's whatever I say.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: You know, those things kind of get taken for granted
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: and can turn like that softness into like I would
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: never be that again in my life for anybody. Nobody's
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: getting that from me. Nobody just or is that from me?
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: You know, it gets taken away. So there's instances where
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: women become hard from being soft and it being you know.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I think it's also like a woman saying, hey, babe,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: can you to any man?
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Can you do this for me? Would you?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Would you mind doing this for me? I think, uh,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: there's just I think women are just super powerful, and
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I think that women when they exude that power necessary.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I think most things are manipulation though, djh. But can
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I finish? Do you mind?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: So you want to be manipulated?
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: Can I finish?
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Most men want to be manipulated?
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: I think so. I think so, and I think women
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: do as well. I think we.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I think we want to be treated a certain way
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: in order for us to do something and order for
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: us to respond a certain way, and and that if
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: we use that, that is manipulation. You want us, you
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: want me to do something to you a certain way,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: for you to respond a certain way.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Am I wrong? Is that not manipulation? Is that not? Yeah?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Y'all can disagree. No, I agree, I know, I agree.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. Like I think in order
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: to do this, you have to do that. But I
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: think that's life though. I think that's just the balance
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: of how things gotta go.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: That's what I said. All of us I agree with
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: do things to manipulate situations. You talk nice, you change tones,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: you you code switch. We all know how to act
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: in order to get the reaction that we want. That
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: is an indeed manipulation, and that's.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: And that's the type of person that you want to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: be with. Somebody that has to manipulate you to get
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: things out of you and cannot just say things to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you regularly and just have a normal conversation with you.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You want to be manipulated? Yes, I don't.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, I would like for a person. I think that
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: goes into the James Baldwin.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Thing with the yes him and Nikki, Nikki.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Gin and viny.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: She said, Yo, lie to me too.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: You lie to everybody else, and you come home and
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I get the rawest part of you, the most unkind,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: the most cruel, just raw emotion, because you don't have
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: to know. I deserve more respect and more of the
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: same energy you give them strangers than they do because
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: you love me. Yes, lie to me too, manipulate me too, Yes,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: treat me a certain way in order to get the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: reaction that you want.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Yes, I want to be manipulated, for sure, I want.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: To be I don't want to be lied to. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I also don't want to be manipulated because honesty without
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: love is cruelty. I don't want you to be cruel
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to me if we're together and we're doing this thing together.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But I also don't want you to lie to me.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to manipulate. I don't want you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to manipulate me.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I want we're using that word because you think you're
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: as No, it does, but you're adding a connotation to
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: it when the actual meaning you just said honesty without
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: love is it's cruelty, and that is that love is
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: the manipulation part that love is saying Okay, I'm going
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: to say this in a way that it's good, easy
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: for him to receive or her to receive that what
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: she knows that I still care, other than just saying
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: some blanket statement and not giving the fuck. But you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I didn't mean it that way.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: But it's okay because I love them.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: But I don't think that that's manipulation. I just think
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: that that's love and care.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: It is care.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a manipulation. If I change
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: It's not like manipulation to hurt the person, but to
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: spare their feelings or too.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Yes, and I think that's and I think that's all.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: The manipulation or or like consideration, you know, like I
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: can err on the side of consideration more so than manipulation.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be I think you looked up the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: word manipulating before you did.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Just now, No, so.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm wrong.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not super word ologists.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Let me just see.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Words is crazy? You really made that happen for no reason.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Manipulation definition the act of something and skillful manner the
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: action of manipulating someone in a clever or unscrupulous way.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: That once you put unscrupulous in it, it is a
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: negative connotation on it already.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Clever, isn't or the.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Word clever clever is also because it's like you're trying
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: to outsmart somebody.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I don't want that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want that. I don't want to I don't
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: want to try to outsmart somebody. I want to be cautious,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: I want to be courteous. But I also want to
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: be honest. I think that that is like radical candor
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is important to me, Like I don't want to be
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in the ruinous empathy spot. Like ruinous empathy is like
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you really like you talk to somebody in a certain
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: type of way and try to make it more palatable
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: for them to understand instead of just saying what it
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: is clear is kind. I love you enough to tell
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you the truth, and I I don't want to have
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: to pussyfoot around it because you can't take it. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: need you to hear it, and hear that. It's out
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: of love that I'm telling you this, because if I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: didn't love you, I would let you fail. If I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: didn't love you, I would let you go run and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: do whatever, run amuck and do whatever the fuck you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: want to do. I love you enough to look you
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: in your face and say, you're wilin'. This is not
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the way that you should be doing X, Y, and Z.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And I shouldn't have to pacify it or baby it
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: for you to get it. I shouldn't have to put
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the candy in the medicine for you to get it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: If you're somebody that I love, but you should I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: don't agree.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: You shouldn't have to, but you should.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that it's a requirement, but it is
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: love when you do certain things so that they feel
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: a certain way about whatever that's loved. You shouldn't have.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: To, but you should. It's what I'm saying.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I do that for my lady because I know it
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: makes her feel good when I act a certain.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Way to But is that really you?
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: It has become me in a relationship because that's consideration. Yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I just broke you off. Look, she said yeah, she
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: said yeah, she said that. She the mike heard it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Do you understand what I'm saying? Do you? Do you
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: agree that you've changed a little bit in your relationship.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: There's ways that I am and how I am is
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: not acceptable in a relationship, you know, so like you
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: have to if you care about that person that you
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: can consider their feelings and you want them to feel
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: loved the way that they want to feel love. You
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: have to make those adjustments, even if it's not say
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: who you are, not that I'm thinking, but I may
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: have to step it up, enhance, you know, and be
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: intentional and be intentional with it, yeah, rather than just
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: be okay with being whack or nothing. You know, I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: like I am who I am. Then it's like that's
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: that's unacceptable. You got to put some growth or something
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: into who you are if you want to sustain a relationship,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: or if you want to just even be a better person,
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: and we could all be shitty people and be okay
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: with it, or you could step it up and try
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: to be better.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Speaking on damn, I hate the way iPhone does this bullshit.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Relationships and things that you do.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Intentionally.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: If I hear one.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: More man and say he doesn't want to text all
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: day every day, I don't know what I'm gonna do.
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: Can someone please help me understand this?
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: Who is asking for texting and calling all day every day?
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Because I've heard so many men make counter arguments to
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: women who ask for consistency, and their response is I
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: don't have time to text all day every day.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: Who will the ladies stand up?
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: Who's asking for all day every day? Because all I
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: know is I got work to do.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: I gotta shower, I gotta do laundry, I gotta be
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: a mother, I got errands, Like who is asking? Who?
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Who is asking for texting all day every day?
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: Let me just let me just clear this up. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: don't think I will.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: Get one woman coming in my comment saying I am
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: the one.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: I ask for texts all day every day. So fellas
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: on behalf of all the women.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Can we please, for the love of God, stop with
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: the all day, every day rebuttal, No one is asking
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: for that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: We are asking you to not go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Three business days with not so much as checking to
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: see if we still have a pulse.
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: Ladies, you feel me?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: That was the biggest load of bull I ever heard. Really, Yeah,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: that's women are wanting to ask in the text all day. No,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: not saying all but that's happening, like just her being
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: like nobody's gonna come my commentsation that come on, what
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: are we doing?
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: They want to be They say, I want to be
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: in your skin?
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Come on, knock it off, like come knock it off please.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Men say these things too, like this is not the
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: only women thing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Like I agree.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: I agree with that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be text all day. Oh I
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: don't want to beg to text all day.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: You sound like us what.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: You already admitted to it. You're saying, like some niggas
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: we want to text all.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Day, yeah, or even you want to communicate with somebody
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: all day. Sure, Hey, what's up? And and the point
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: of this was like, don't text me three days later
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: or don't don't ignore my text for three days.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead say.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: It and then and then reappear like, hey, what's up?
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Like nothing happened like and you know.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Him a thousand You're not that busy, bro?
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: How are you talking me? How busy I am?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: You're not that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: It's not that busy. It's I don't feel like responded to.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: That's all it is.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: That's all it is. You're prioritizing, You're dealing with people
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: on your time and your time only.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: To right, ain't ship I'm chilling is so easy.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Facts I needing a mental break sometimes.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: That's so easy to say, too.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: See, niggas can't even take mental time for themself. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: have to I have to.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I gotta text, like, I have to tell you that
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I'm taking a mental break. I have to stop my
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: mental break to tell you and alert you why I'm
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: going through something right now.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: I'm busy.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Keep going through it, and don't text me back.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Tell this person. I gotta tell this person.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That's the problem. That's really the problem, because if you're
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: only talking to one person. There's no way that you're
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: going that many days. The problem is y'all got to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: explain that same bullshit to mad other bitches, and that's
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: when it becomes to much.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: First, I have a family and friend network, so you're
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: talking about man bitches. I have most people that speak
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to day, my brother, my cousin, my stepfather, I.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Have a moment, so you can talk to all of them.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: But you can't say, I'm saying if I'm not texting them,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: why would I then?
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: But you are texting them and you're not answering her.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Debatable depends on who it is that's still querious in you.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: That shit jumped right the fuck out for no reason.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You will look at a text message and be like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I'll answer that later.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: But that comes from that comes from a like say
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: yes and yes and okay. That comes from a trauma
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: response I used to have when I was in a
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: relationship when I was in college. The person I used
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: to be with, like, if I did not text them
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: back on the minute, it would be like a full
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: blown argument. Like if I took too long to text
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: them back, it would be like a big, big argument.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: So when I broke up with the person I vowed
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to like, I'm like, I'm not I'm not texting niggas back.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at the text. I'm gonna next back
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: when I want to. But I kind of started. But
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: but I started a bad habit for myself.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Do you say, like, I'm not a text person. I'd
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: rather like speak over the phone.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Or yeah in person?
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Depends you can't.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: It depends.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: It depends on how early, and it depends on where
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: we're at in the.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Convocaulse you be calling people. I just want to know
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you call people I have.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: We can't bringing up old ship.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I just asked a question, why can't I know?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Like me, I'm not here for the oh, I don't
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: double texts and ship like that. Like me, like all right, check,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: like what happened, Yo, you're good? Or did you eat
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: tonight or whatever?
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Like what? Like me back, what happened?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So what I missing?
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I saw what I missed earlier?
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: So what I be busy and I've always been busy,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: and at the end of the day is sometimes responding
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: to you is continuing a conversation I'm going to have
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: right now. I don't even want to engage in that
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: right now because I got other ship and it can
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: be like an ADHD type of response. Sometimes you can
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: also respond in your head sometimes this conversation requires more
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: of me than I have to get right now. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: the oh, well you could have learned me, man, that's
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: a whole different conversation then, or the way you might
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: respond to me saying I don't want to talk about
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: this right now. This is a lot of times yo,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: y'all gonna be understanding the bullshit, the mental gymnastics niggas
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: be having to go through to keep y'all on the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: right side of fucking history.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: But I thought we said that manipulation was important, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: isn't that part?
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: And sometimes I don't have it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't have Sometimes you don't have it.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't have it. I'm not saying I'm not
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: a fucking superhero. I'm not superhero. Sometimes I have it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't. But a lot of me like the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: same way you lit in that nigga at work, the
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: same way that you curteous and if your boss, if
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: your boss call you, you will always answer the phone and
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you always want to answer that textment. Lot of me too,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: lot of me too, what.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: You're doing is what am I doing? What that nig
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: seem too? Now she's using a soft voice too?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: What am I doing?
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: Serious? That's why I told you it's it's a double move.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Oh now that's what it is. Oh, because I've been
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I've been drinking and not aggressive. Lie to me too.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: You just asked me three times? That's aggressive.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I apologize. I didn't mean to be aggressive.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Is there what are you looking for? You have apple? Oh?
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: God? No, yes, sometimes I do not have it because
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I have my own shit going on, and I believe
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: that this is not a gender thing either. As name
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: will say, it's like yo, sometimes I understand when my
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: lady fails to quote unquote manipulate or come at me
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: in a tone that I like, I might tone police
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: sometimes like Yo, why you came at me like that?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Like why when the message is that's what she had right?
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Same as Yo, you good?
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: I'm fun now. The text tone, I really feel like
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: it's a thing like interpreting how someone's sending you a message,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: and your own head and your own voice mood can
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: really send a text to an argument in three seconds
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: if you read it with your own attitude. I don't know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: And that's a part of texting all day too, is
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: like just to speak on the phone because this is
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: about do.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Not respond to my BMS Texas, I do not.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: I need to hear it in person.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have a conversation, right because I already know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: The way?
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Does she respond to certain ship? I'm not. We're not
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: doing this soon as she texts you. And it's so
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: crazy because it's been years that I don't respond and
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I just pick up a phone and call, but she'll
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: still text.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: You hear you know you better.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I don't understand if you know I'm gonna call to
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: have a conversation, why texts call and my bugget No,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: you're not bugging.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: But I realized that certain people are more comfortable with
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: texting than calling. I realized that like some people, it
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: don't matter what you tell them, they much rather just
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: do this than do that. So when you do it,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: it's fine because you're calling the person. But like for her,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: she's probably just gonna text every time.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's just an alert like YO, call me back
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: the intention of it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: So you answer her text messages for your call, yes, immediately, nom,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: depending depending it depends on the text.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It depends on the situation and the urgency of the text. Yes, okay,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: you've been really soft today, dog?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh thank you?
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Where Yo?
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: How did we get how did we get here? It's
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: no fun?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: How is this? I'm having a ball, yo, Drew?
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: God bless you, bro. That's all I say. I cannot
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: believe you wake up and have to deal with this
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: every day?
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: What are you talking about? Yeah?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: What am I doing?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: By him?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Am I doing something wrong? Should I have to change again?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: How would you like for me to be less soft spoken?
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: More aggressive?
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Ladies?
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I just want you to I just want I hope
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: y'all enjoy it. The people who are listening, the people
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: are watching, And I want to know y'all think this
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: is fun for men to have to deal with. They
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: have to experience. Right, you have a conversation, they don't
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: agree with something, and now this is the rest of
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: the thing. So why do men not respond? Why do
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: men shut down? Why do men not communicate?
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: This is not even did you see.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: What's going on? I see what? Then you just go
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: you know what?
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: All right? And next time I'm not saying nothing next
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: time because you see how you you get responded to?
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: You see the behavior and this is just going on now. Imagine,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: imagine were in the crib.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: It's just like, what are you saying?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I know it's bad when I say easy going and
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: they chewed me up for easy going.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I know it's bad.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: From there said damn, you can't can't be easy going?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: And he's raising what is easy going?
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: What is easy going means? Oh, he's shaking his hand
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: in the corner.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's what he did.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Easy going. Yes, easy going to me just means calm.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It literally means what it what it says, like like
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: like you're going along the time and you're don't get easily.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: That's what it means to me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: It's going along the time easily.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: It include that would that would include like just calm communication?
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: What's calm? What's calm communication?
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Like you making it right now?
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Yes, that's my easy questions like that versus versus like.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: That one him downstairs that I'm no versus no versus,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: like just just the more aggressive like like like sometimes
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: not even what you say is it's the it's.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: The body attitude, the movement is.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: The like are you dumb? Type of Yeah, you can
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: see that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: No, I could see that based on like somebody could
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: act like that based on their past experience with somebody else, right,
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: like like this is Nigga dumb or he not answering
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: fast enough for he trying to play me. You know
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: he wanted me to be easy going. He's trying to
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: play me, so you know it could be it could
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: be weird.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: That is not an enjoyable experience. Easy going means easy
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: to talk, too, easy to communicate with like, easy to
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: have a discourse.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Agreement, easy, easy, never difficult, never combative, just easy. Just
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the person that's going to make everything easy. The things
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: that come out of your mouth. Just make sure that
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you don't. You're not combative enough, you don't, you don't
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: come back what he's saying. What he's saying is a fact,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and you just make it easy for him. Yo, he
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: can have an easy life and easy experience with you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, women have to be that way. Some women are,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: some men are there. I believe Traum is way more
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: easy going than me. I believe so I believe it's
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: way easier to have a disagreement or conversation with him
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: than with me. Right, I don't want to be like
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Trump me personally. I don't want to I can appreciate
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: his style of communication and understand that that works for him.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: That's not my personality, and a if it doesn't work
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: for you, it doesn't work for you. It is what
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: it is. That's why I like my girl if people like, oh, yes,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: I like mine because we the way we communicate works
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: for us and definitely for me.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: So what about the women that don't want to be
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: easy going and just want to be themselves and the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: way that they are because they can appreciate that there
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: are some women that are more.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Feminine, you're so soft thinking.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: They can appreciate that there are some women that are
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: more feminine in the world, but they just don't see
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: themselves in that light. What about them? Or should they
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: also just be feminine because it makes it easier for
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the male to consume.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: An easy going person. Is that way because that's who
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: they are. Yeah, that's not for the consumption of the
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: other person. It's just the way they are.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: So an aggressive or assertive person, that's just the way
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that they are. But we're asking, and we're basically propping
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: up this idea of an easy going, more feminine woman.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: We're not saying you have to be that way.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, we did it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Women are Oh, it's appreciated, tolerated, understandable. I'm just saying words.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I apologize. Did that upset you? I apologize?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: No, I'm actually fuddled that you think that you're making
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: a good point, but you're actually showing people see this.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: It's fun. It's okay, it's so much easier, easy going.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you feeling today? I like your glasses,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: they're really nice.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Thanks your family.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Too, Thank you, they're beautiful.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Black love.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: What's the next topic? Let's make it nice and easy?
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Yo? You need a break.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I feel like you do.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: I need a break there.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry because you need a break. Let us
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: all take a break. Let us all.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know where we are. What happened?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Why is it? It ain't no fun? When the rabbit
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: got the gun?
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Yo?
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: What happens?
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: We took the advice?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: We are listening feminine, easy going.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Yo, come with y'all. And I didn't liqua to And
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here like, bro.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Honey, anybody need anything?
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: No? I want to.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: I wanted to get a blieve it's.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Not funs the next topic?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: What's the next one.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing this.
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: Are you saying that you appreciate our aggressive more?
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I like New York women. I also like Down South women.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I like women, So me personally, I don't really
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: need a woman to be a certain way person, especially
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: being my character.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need somebody to beat you a little bit,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: put a little fear in your heart.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's good. Maybe I could. I think I could
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: be too much.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: M h.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I'm a prices. I'm an only child.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: So what type of woman do you do? You need
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a feminine woman? Or you need somebody that can kind
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: of wrangle even though you're too much, even though even
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: though that you have the.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Ability to be also aggressive too.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you need somebody to yoke you up a
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: little bit, but.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: In an aggressive feminine way. She's not masculine. M you
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's more like the mother type
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: thing that when your mom's just like, yo, god, go
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: to your room type shit. I don't know, but not
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: in like a trying to be your dad energy.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: What I didn't do? Shit, this is crazy. This nigga
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: just started calling my name. I just asked the question.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with me. No, I'm gonna tell you
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the true I'm gonna tell you what's wrong with me.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just so sick and tired of this wack ass
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: narrative of femininity in what it's supposed to be. As
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: long if I'm not opening a frank stand to my man,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: if I'm not swinging on you like I promise you,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I'm in my feminine energy. And the issue is that
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the issue is that you have these in cels on
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the Internet that have this thought process, this trumped up
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: thought process in their mind based off of like AI
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and fucking bot bitches of what women are supposed to
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: act like, and they want to be able to just
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: walk all over they want to be super massed. I'm
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: out for red pill ass bitch ass niggas. And at
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, nobody is gonna allow y'all
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to move and talk and do the things that y'all do. Like,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: if you want somebody that's gonna be the doormat for you,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: then say that. But it's not okay personally for me
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: to continuously get attacked week after week after week because
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: y'all be in here saying some dumb ass shit, or
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the clips be saying some dumb ass shit. And then
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I say something and it's just like, oh my god,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: she's so aggressive, she's not feminin, like please, like super please.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: But then when I do decide to be soft and
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: easy gold, and it's not fun no more. Nobody want
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: to pod no more. So what do y'all want?
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what you're talking about right now?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're talking.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: About people on the internet and we're talking about us.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: What are we talking about?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about both at the same time. We do,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: because the thing.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Is not and at the end, it's not you. The
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: conversation all over social media is how men need to
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: be more masculine and how men used to be like
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: it's rarely do we the mirror go back to women
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: and femininity, And it was never a have to. We
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: was talking about the way that affects the room. We
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: was talking about this woman was saying how to be
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: more feminine. You was like, oh, these things, but.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: None of those things, none of those things masked or
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: matched up the idea of what femininity is. And then
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: when the question was then posed to the men in
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the room, what is femininity to y'all? That is what
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: made all of this happen because y'all said things like easygoing, calm,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: soft spoken. So then when me and Naima was being
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: easy going, calm and soft spoken, it's like, oh, now
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: this is condescending. This is what I'm talking about.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: So what is it that you never use the word
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: condescending at all? I say that you were being passive.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Passive, aggressive, and I think that's what you were doing,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: was it? Yeah, I was being soft. That was my
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: soft but it wasn't good enough.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: No, But I think you're being willfully of too, so
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: because I feel like you know that when we when
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: we say like calm and easy going, like we don't
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: mean like to drop your voice all of the octaves
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: and to talk very slowly, that that's not what we're
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: talking about.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Like, so what is soft now?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: And I said when I said to her, was I said,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I give the example basically of it's not just the words,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: it's the tonality, it's the movements behind it. So even
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: like not being funny, but even how you respond, suf.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Sometimes when you be like, I can say something to
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: you could be like like, Nigga, is you good like that?
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: You good ship?
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: It's there's the like, yo, tyle, you good like friend,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: you good? And then there's like the next movement like nigga,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: are you fucking good?
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Are you good?
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: So I'm saying it's two different things. So that's that's
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: really what I'm speaking to. It's the difference between.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: But when I did say, hey, friend, you.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: Good, I agree with you, he was off. I agree
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: with you.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter how was I off about what?
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying when when she presented like that, I
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: didn't think that there was a need for the like
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: you meeting it with aggression because that's not how she
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: came but because because I believe the same thing in
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: reverse the.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Text message, yes, oh you didn't think that that was off?
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: No?
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, well I did, but I wasn't aggressive.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: I don't think I met you with aggression. I just
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: said I didn't understand the text, like.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: What you mean you good? Am I not good? What's
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Like? That's the questions text song you called me?
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: It was like that, Am I not supposed to be good?
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Is it's something about to happen? It's somebody on my
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: door and I'm just like, nigga, I just asked of
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: you were okay? Hey are you good? I can't win.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: It's just me, Oh you won, No, I didn't win.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Whatever battle is what. I don't even know what the
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: hell is going on in this.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: I feel like to go against the possible neck movement,
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: all of that. What we're what we're just being silly,
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: but even just trying to do it like tone it down,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: calm it down in the body movement and the tone
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: of voice, tone it down in the body movement. Tone
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: of voice is going against the neck movement and responding
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: with the aggression and the and that's what we may
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: feel like is aggressive about ourselves, right, Like maybe maybe
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: I do talk with intent and that comes off as
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: aggressive or as a rapper or with my hands or
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: you know, things that could feel aggressive. So when we
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: lock it all up into here, which is maybe what
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: we see in our head of a woman who is
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: soft or someone who's on the TV from but that's
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: how they act, it's like, oh is that how we
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: should be?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Right? Very whity like this.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Whitley, different stroke, different world strokes. I've been around, I've
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: been around, I've been here for a long time.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Very whitley, very you know, give you a little clear.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: But she was also very much desired Whitley m M.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: But she also she annoyed me.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: She always annoyed me. I cannot take that character.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Well, I think she was nasal.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't her voice, it was everything about her.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: It was the soft.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: It was the softness annoyed me.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it annoyed me because but but that's but that
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: goes back into the other point that I was making of.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Just like who you are, right, if I am just
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: this person by nature or by nurture, however you want to,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: however you want to like, cut that apple. This is
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the person that I am. This is how I speak
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: with intent, with seriousness. If I love you, I'm going
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: to be clear with you. Clear is kind like these
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: are the certain things or analogies that are in my
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: head that shows how much I care about you. So
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: for that to be combated with not femin enough or
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: not soft enough, or whatever the case may be. I
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: can be soft as ever, But that's just the manipulation.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: So you want me to play with you, You want
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: me to mind fuck you instead of being real with you,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: because that is a soft place for you to land,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: that makes you more comfortable in this space. I can
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: do it. I have done it in anybody that I
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: have that has ever said that I'm super duper soft
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: with them. I didn't give a fuck about you enough
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: to tell you the truth because I knew it was
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a manipulation. If I tell you the truth, if I'm
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: honest with you, if I can look you in your
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: eyes and say that wasn't the right move, you probably
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have did that that way. If I can't give
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: you that type of feedback, then I don't care about you.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: But that is what a lot of men want. They
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: want somebody that is just going to go with the flow,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: even if the flow is going the wrong fucking way. Y'all,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: niggas is going upstream and the flow is going downstream,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: But just go with the flow and saying nice to me,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: lie to me, like like the man at work.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's that.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I just think that niggas don't want their lady to
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: talk to them like DMX. I think it's very simple,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: like it's it's not hard, like I don't think it's.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: When you express something. They got to do all this
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: passive aggressive ship to be like yo, that means I
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: can't even communicate with you because of the way you act.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: After even even me mentioning something like like like this conversation.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Like if I was in a relationship and I said
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: hey to my partner, like hey, I think you should
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: be more softer, you should be more whatever, it could
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: just be a thought, it could just be a conversation.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: If my partner was to react like that like they
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: do that ship for the rest of the day, I
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: would be tight.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: I would even said something.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I would I even said something, that's what.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: You So what would you expect after you say I
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: think you should be softer?
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: But that's what would you expect change.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Conversation instead of you just saying, oh, you think you
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: want me to be pussy? Bet, I got you. And
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: then now you're doing you're doing that ship all day now.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, I should never even said nothing, because
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: we're not solving anything here. We're just going around each other.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: We're not solving anything. You just I said something, you
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: don't like what I said, and now we're just not
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: communicating and going around on earth.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: No, and I obliged. You asked me for something, my
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: black King, and I did exactly what you wanted me
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: to do. Still wasn't good enough. Go figure, because that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: not what you want. Like you say that that's what
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: you want, that's not what you want because you know
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: the person that you're with, so that's not what you want.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: What you really want and what you're really not saying
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: is Yo, what you just said hurt my feelings a
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: little bit. I would appreciate it more like if you
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: can be a little bit more kind when you're saying
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: certain things for me, that's what you want, But that's
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: not what you said. What you said is I need
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: you to be more self spoken or I need you
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: to be more femine. Okay, wat's this.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think it comes off well for men to
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: tell a woman to be more feminine at all. I
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: don't think that that's that's a good place.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: You wasn't attracted to that, So why you want to know?
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: No, I'm agreeing with you, although I'm agreeing with as well.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: I think the way that you say it matters.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Right. I loved where you said it. Just now you know.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: The way you came to me was mad, harsh, or
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: like you don't think that you could communicate with me
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: a little bit more kind like you love me or
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: something like I would do everything that you asked but
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: the way that you asked me just really just like
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: hite me in the spot. I don't like to be
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: spoken to that. That's different, different, like, Yo.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: You're not feminine enough.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: You try to be a little bit more feminine yo.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, it comes off very red pill, like you said, Yes,
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: a very red pill. That being said, I believe this
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: conversation was started from women talking to women about femininity
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: away from their relationship completely, you know what I'm saying,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: separated from that conbo. And then we were asked and
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: now it makes it seem as if we're telling you
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: what to do.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: But that was never the combo.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: We already stamped in the beginning of a convo that
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: she wasn't saying shit, and that's how it turned into this,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: because she was just saying things that are just kind,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: courteous and that normal people should do.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, well we're back here at the beginning of that
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: regular voice back Naimi you good? Are you still smoking
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: softly too? Oh?
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: God?
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: I like I like the soft life.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: You know you do you live the soft life?
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: No?
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: I have two boys, boy children, and no I don't
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: live a soft life. I live it.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: You had a little rough do you mind facts, if not,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: if it's okay, if.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: You don't answer one four and eight four eight.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: And the dad is in the home, which is do
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: you see a difference in the way they respond to him,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: in the way they respond to you.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. They They were at the age of they
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: be like please, lady, and they listened to their dad
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: once he is foot down on them.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: So no, seriously, yes, And you feel the same way
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: a Parker.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck up my none not saying let
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Andrews say the same shit that I said. It's very
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: it's very sick and side.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: Actually I appreciate it though.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: That's why I like the older one better. She'd be
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: chilling that young one. Where do you think that comes from?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I think that it comes from it. It's so crazy
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: to me. I had to have a real heart to
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: heart with Parker recently. She did some wow shit and
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I had to tell her like, please don't make me
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: introduce you to who your mother really is before time, like,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: because I'm still supposed to be that soft space to land.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I think mommy is like the one that hugs them
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: and holds them and if they're crying, and oh my god,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I got a booble, or Mommy's gonna run like, oh
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: my god, let me give you a kiss, and like
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Mommy's very like cuffee and cuddly and my baby, my baby,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: my baby. And I think that because they get that
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: so much in those first couple of formative years, that
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: they get to a point that I think that they
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: think that mommy is pussy and daddy is not. Yeah,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: but I had to have a conversation with my seven
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: year old and be like, I just need you to understand,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: like I do this for you, but You're gonna stop
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: fucking with me because I'm not the pussy one in
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: this household. I don't understand where we went wrong. I
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: just don't get it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: You pressed her.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, the seven year old. Absolutely, I just met you, nigga,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Like you don't know me for real, Like I just
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: need you. I need you to calm down. I need
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: you not to try me because you trying me. But
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not pussy. I don't You're not ready for that.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Of course I didn't say it like that, but that
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: was the come on, son, But that was the premise
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: of the conversation. The premise of the conversation is you
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: just met me. I need you to understand so I'm
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: not the one to play with.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: Do you agree that it's because you're soft with the child?
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah? And also it's like even in that same vein
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: of once I turn aggressive, then it's like like, now
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: I'm doing too much. Yeah, once I start sinning, stomping,
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: clapping my hands, getting aggressive with a little niggas, now
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: it's like hmm, like you know, like you're doing too much.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, monster, I'm a psychopath.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I said it ninety five times, so I'd rather
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: Dad say it than me.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: So don't time for the ship. I don't like being
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: a bad cop. I like being a good cop, but
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta be both sucks.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: What do you think I'm process?
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: You have kids? Yesterday?
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: No, I don't have kids, Thank the Lord.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Did you respond different with your mom than you do
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: with your stepdad?
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Nah?
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I mean to be honest with you, I never had
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: a I never had an issue with my stuf.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Dad before, Like you never had issue? What old you
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: what to do?
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: Never had to so he never told you what to do.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: You never had to.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: But have you ever had issues with your mom?
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah? For sure?
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but my stepdad never had to say to you
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: because you knew.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, my mom. Yeah, my mom wasn't on that,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: and like my mom she was. My mom was going
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: to throw hands and ship. So it's like, nah, you
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: got it, won a square round, Like I'm cool.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: But what is it that that that would even put
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: her to the what what give me an example of
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: something that you did that or even put her to
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: the the mindset of wanting to put hands on you
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that your stepfather didn't want to put hands with you,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: because I think that's the same kind of like the
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: same thing that me and I even talking about, like
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: like kids will try you, they try mommy, but your
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: stepfather never even had to correct you, which is crazy.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Because for me, my mom she was always the person
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: like I was more scared hurt than anybody, Like I
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: didn't care like what anybody says.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: She was the ultimate thing for me.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: And she also threatened my real father and my stepfather
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: like you'll put.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: You on my son.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I'm a kid with both of y'all, Okay, So it
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: was like, but she did that, like you know, I guess,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: as you know, a single parent to protect a kid,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: but also too, she never played none of that, like
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: you know, you don't get to disrespect them, talk to
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: them the type of way. So and I was a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: good kid, so I didn't really have those types of issues.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: So what'step? That's been in my life since I was four,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: So I'm thirty three.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Now do you remember young? You like little boy? You
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: like five year old running around jumping off ship?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: You.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: I remember? My mom told the story all the time. Her.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: My grandmother came into the house one time and I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: had all of my stuffed animals on the couch and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: I was performing the Usher My Way album with a
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: with a hat to the back and sunglasses and my underwear.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: You tell that story all the time.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: She beats your ass.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: She thought it was funny.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I would have I would have put your back.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: She did be my ass for cooking the goldfish one time.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: No, that was great.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: A murderer got.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Around murder uh Caribbean Caribbean No, No.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Why did you do it?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: Though? American?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: Why is cooking as.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: You killed a pet?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: You know what it is, you know what it is.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Like you do it because I was young. I was
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: like I had to be like under seven, like and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: my my grandmother at the time had goldfish in her tank.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Or whatever you killed your grandmother goldfish, bro.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Because you know what, you know what it was. I
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: remember going down south and going fishing, right, so I
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: was like damn. I was like, damn, okay, I know
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: when they go down southe and they go fishing, you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: got to like cut the fish open and you you know,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: you put it on the ship. So I was like, damn.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: I wondered, could I cook one of the goldfish? So
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: I went, took the neck, caught one, went back to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: my cows, got there.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Took your crib, and then you murdered that nigga?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: Who caught you cooking the fish?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: No, nobody caught me cooking the fish. What happened was
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: my mom came in and killed so the pan basically
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: the pan, so I don't know if you if you
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: cook a goldfish, the skin sticks to the pin. So
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: my mom came in, so I thought I cleaned. I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: thought I cleaned everything and through everything in the garbage,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: and she came in. She's like, what the is this
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: on the pan? So she's trying to get off, She's like,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: what the fuck is this? So I'm like, but I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: thought she knew, So I was like, oh, I tried
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: to cook, you know, want to grandma golfish?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: She said, Nik, you did what.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: It was so like? It was so quick. I was like, damn,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: but I was some dump. I did a lot of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: dump she as a kid. So I was like, he took.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Your grandmother goldfish, that's my grandmother. I thought that was
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: your grandmother.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: Why are you gonna eat it?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: I planned to, but how big was this golfish little ship?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: It got smaller, That's why did That's why I'm like,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: this doesn't look.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: Eat this you murdered. Oh my god, so sad.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: That's sick. Ship.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: That is some sick. That is one of the sickest
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: things I've ever heard. You you when you took it.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: That's not that that actually makes it worse because that's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: how serial killers. You're fucking nuts. What's your middle name?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: Is talking middle names? Sick?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Nigga?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Drew don't clip that.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Either, Nah. Drew definitely clipped that ship.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: Why not on the show?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Nah, definitely got to clip that, especially after that last clip.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: That got to be the first clip.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: You're just not going to give that.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: That was between my ex husband and I.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: It actually did, and he showed me a level to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 10: him and aside to him that I've never ever experienced before.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 10: So early last week he told me that now that
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: he is caring for the boys full time while I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: prepare to move, and he obviously stops the Child Nations
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: experiments to me, which.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: Is what we had agree.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: I didn't want to be in receipt of anything because
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: I don't have the children, and that money was court.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: Ordered at the time of our divorce for.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: Our boys activities, So their extra permitical activities, their breakfast, club,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: after school club, tutoring, athletics, football, you name it, they
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: do it. And that's what that money was for. So
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 10: it's not a substantial amount, but it was in line
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 10: with his salary at the time and it was enough
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: to cover those outgoings. It didn't cover their accommodation, it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 10: didn't cover their food, none of those things. So obviously,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: as they are no longer in my full time care,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 10: that money was to stop. Absolutely no questions asked. Now
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 10: he was saying that not only is that money stopped,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: he took the car that he had previously got for
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: me away.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 9: Again, that's totally fine. I'm leaving the country.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: I don't you don't owe me anything like that. That
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: car was to make taking the kids from A to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: B easier. Totally fine. Here's a bit that freeming. He
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 10: is saying that I need to pay him child maintenance.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: So I need to pay him child support.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: He said, And I was like, sorry, what exactly do
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 10: you mean? He literally repeated himself and said that now
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 10: that he has the boys, I have to pay the support.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: He now, mind you, I have been self employed for
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: over a year, and.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: You know what it's like when you're starting a bit.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 10: It's not like I have the financial securities or the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: financial pulling power.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: As I did while I was in EA.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: So I'm like, where exactly do you think I'm going
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 10: to get money from them to pay you? Anyway, I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: thought that he was going to simmer down, and he
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: was just like bluffing, or maybe he was angry.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: Lo and Behold.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: I received an email this week from a mediation service
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: saying that he has instructed them to start mediation with me.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: I would have to cover all of my casts, and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: they were inviting me to.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: A meeting with them.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: I declined it because I'm not mediating over me paying
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: you child maintainers when I paid for a whole divorce,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: and anything that you paid for me has now been
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 10: stopped because it was for the kids and I don't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: have the kids. Guys, can you explain to me, like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 10: the men of this generation, I have not heard anything
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 10: like this before. My dad, who I've had to loop
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: into it was like just ignore him. This is illegal.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: Men can't get money off women. That's literally what my dad.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Thought, just pure Oh well, I don't see the problem.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: What pay the child support? Bitch, you don't got the kids.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: And this is deep dive. Did she not have a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: job while she was taking care of the kids versus
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: the dad having a job.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point, She says,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: she'd been self employed for years.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: He just got a job. So you have a job,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: You have a job.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: You got him to control.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I think he's being petty though.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: What you're asking. He's being petty.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: We can definitely acknowledge that he's being petty. But at
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, women do things to be
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: petty too. We take men for child support to be
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: petty as well. So again, it ain't no fun. When
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: a rabbit got the gun. I don't know what to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: tell you, sweetheart, And you talk about you moving out
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: the country country. Yeah, nah, pay up, you got this.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: You're leaving the country. You got this. I got mad
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: faith in you.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: Kids, just leaving them with him and you off just
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: go live your self employed. You have no job. You
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: just traveling.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Shout out of time. But you gotta pay they I do.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: I do think that though. There's a thing with petty men.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a masculine trade, being petty,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: spiteful spiteful. I don't know if I like, because that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: just speaks on how you probably showed up in that
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: relationship as well. I don't like that ship man. I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: remember a dude told me that his baby mother was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: you know, he wanted up putting her child support once
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: he got custody of the child, and when she got
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: a raised, he took her back to.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Get more mood.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: But this nigga was already making six figures where we
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: was at.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: It's just a principality, principality of the whole thing. Yeah,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: with that, I don't care, because it's the same thing
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: if it was the other way around.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do things based off if it was the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: other way around.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: No, I do things solely based off of my feelings
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: and emotions at the time, and as somebody that is
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: a very emotional person and do things off of emotion,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I could completely understand why somebody else would.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like not because of the other way around,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: but like it's gonna happen.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: So what do you mean is gonna happen?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: Like if it was the other way around, and I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: don't take advantage of it, it's gonna happen to me
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: either way, so you might as well go and get
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: yours on your side.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: I don't like if it was the other way around.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: I like being my own person. I hate doing things
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: just because I knew that person would do it to me.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: I don't hate it, but I.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: Feel it's like protection. It's bitchy, but it's protection, Like
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: you have to protect yourself just because you would be
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: nice if someone doesn't mean that they were going to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: be nice to you.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Like and also too, I think it's still the accountability
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: portion of it too. It's like, why do you get
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: to just get off and you.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: Get to live your life regular you're the baddy in
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: the relationship? You think you the baddie saying that you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: knowing that okay, all right?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: So what we do? What is the terminology that you.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Would rather be us?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: I'm a man.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, man, we're good. Yo, we're talking, I asked him.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: We're talking the other day. I asked him, Yo, you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: met surely the other day.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Have you texted yet?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: He's like, no, of course not. I said, it's been
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: three days. He said, okay, and he awkward pause. He says,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, so there's no metric where she should have
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: texted me first.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: This is the same nigga that said that's.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: What I'm not pulling you a girl, But I'm just like,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: what happened to this?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: The same nigga that said that he ain't take nobody
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: off from Aalenti's day because ain't nobody take him out?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: Nobody?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Nobody asked him.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: I said, I was in the house chilling.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: You said, nobody asked me to be the bed valent with.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: What I said prior to that, right, But also nobody
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: asked me as well.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: But that's what little girl. But you move in a
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: way that is like.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: I value myself? Which want me to do about that?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Why can I? Why can I? Why can women be
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: the only people that value themselves?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: You can have standards.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: How like, what's the problem with that?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: You could be apprized and still be like a starter?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I agree with that. I'm assertive when
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: We don't want to take a chick the child support Jesus,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: because what makes you think so you should have got
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: away with that?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: So you're not going to take a woman to child
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: support because you're a man, you feel like, and that's
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: not the mainly thing to do.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Watch your words? Why just watch it?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: I don't think that.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: I if if we don't have a working co parent
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: relationship and I feel like you basically just neglecting or
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: doing some shit, probably I would.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, probably I would good answer, good answer.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: If we have a.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Working co parent relationship and I'm getting it, I'm good.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna take care of my kids. That's just me, right.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: I think you're talking about doing it out aspite or
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: because she would do it to you.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: No, me, personally, I'm not. I don't. I don't believe
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: in that.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: No, not if I'm if we like you said, if
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: we have a co parent relationship, then no, it's not necessary.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about only if it's necessary, That's what I mean.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Like I would do it, like in the terms of
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: it being necessary, Like, Okay, you're gonna just abandon the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: situation you're.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: Not being on child support, I'm gonna take another step
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: if I being had me on child support and then
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: I get the kids, I'm not taking her for child sport.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: I'm ending the child support, but I'm not going to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: make sure that she puts me there. I put her
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: on child support.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: Would you not putting her on child support? Would you require
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: as she contributes?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: Yes? Of course.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: If she doesn't, then I'm probably just gonna take care
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: of the kids. I just I think I have a
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: thing about being a man that stops me from doing
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: certain shit that I probably should do. And I'm cool
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: with that. I totally understand that. But me personally, I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: don't see myself going filing the paperwork to get money
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: from her check.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: I know I'm going right down the family car like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: this right there, yep. And she got money under the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: mattress too, I know where it's at.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably do y'all disagree? Do y I think
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: that I'm bugged out for that.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think that you're bugged out for that. I just,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: you know, me I agree to a point.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: What's the point.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: The things that I do mostly are rooted in petty.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: So if I'm gonna do something is because I'm being petty.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: You're a woman, though, But I wouldn't.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: As you know, the first seven years of my child's life,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I aired on your side. But I woke up one
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: day and I chose violence. And now its violence that
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: was up. It's not because I need it, it's not
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: because I want to. But I just woke up one
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: day and I just I woke up in a mood
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: and I felt.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: You took him to child's book because she was in
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: a mood. Yeah, but also because he wasn't active.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: But also yes, and it's the same scenario of what
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: you're saying, right like, if you're not active, yes, I
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: can still take care of my child. Yes we are
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: still taking care of my child. But one day I
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: woke up and I was just like.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: No, you're not gonna get that off.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: This nigga think I'm a bitch. I think he think
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I'm pussy, and it it was that sim what do
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: you think?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: I'm probably not the type of person that would pursue
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: it out of like spitefulness, But if I would say like, oh,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: I can do this myself or you know, and they
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: probably would get to a point where it'd be like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: if you if you're out there and you know how
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 6: it goes, if you're on Instagram and you posting you
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: live in your lavish life, Oh no, I'm coming to
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: get some now, like you have time to to willingly
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: hear take this. Here's that is this. I'm contributing. But
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: if you not, and you also just you, you and whoever,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: you and your friends, you and your new whatever, it's
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: the millionaires. Now you gotta come off of something for me,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: like now I gotta come for it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta come for it. Pause.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a pause.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: Sounds of single women say they're tired of emotionally mentoring
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: the men they date, to be honest, because I mean,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: I don't think that I've dated a lot of people,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: but I think that.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 9: I have enough like experience.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: Experience to know things and sometimes having to be like, Okay,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: well you should be doing this or you should that
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: is exhausting because all right, that's why it's exhausting for me,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 8: because I'm the type of person that don't feel like
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: they need to be mentoring anybody at this big old age.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 9: So I don't like.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 8: To open my mouth and say, hey, I think that
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: you should be doing this, and I require this, and
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: now I know that part I should be doing because
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: if I require something and I like someone and they
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: like me, then I should be telling them how they
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: should be loving me and all of this and all
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: of that. But it's just like the simple things. If
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: you can't do the simple things, if I have to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: tell you how to do the simple thing, maybe you're
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: not for me.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 9: Because do you question?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: Just do you find that like that is a common.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Thread a.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: Uh, males, I guess in your dating age group fun
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 8: And I just I say that just from knowing guys
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: I'm friends with, uh other friends and their dating situations.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: Because me, I don't let too many people talk to me.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: So where guys get their dating mentorship from?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: I think that that's very important.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: Like I don't know where they where they get their
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 8: mentorship from?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Into valid? Yeah, yeah, where do guys get their dating
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: mentorship from nowadays? Especially the ones that don't have dads?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: Between love and hate?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: You said what.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: I was making a show?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: I don't even think it's Instagram.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it's for my past mistakes. Yeah, most
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: I think I stumbled through dating. I just made as
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: many mistakes as I possibly could not purposely, and then
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: I learned from them and learn you know what I'm
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: saying as I went down the road, until after I
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: had gathered enough mistakes to form a working dating profile.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: That you know what I'm saying.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: And by the end of that, I'm probably still waiting
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: for women to just cut me off instead of cutting
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: them off or like choosing myself to join boundaries. Even
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: by the end of that, I was just the absolute
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to stand still and hopefully she doesn't
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: see me.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's productive. What about you?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, kind of similar. I feel like a lot of
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: mistakes really for me, like because we don't talk about
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: that shit. Yeah yeah, And all of my friends growing
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: up was much older than me, so it wasn't really
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: like it was like a little bit of a disconnect.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: But don't women do the same thing? Where do y'all
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: get dating mentorship.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: From the women and my family, my women mentors. Those
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: are the people that I talked to. I don't know
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: about y'all.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: Does it work.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: I love my kid. I never got any guidance on
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: dating or how to go about it or like what
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: to expect what someone should be doing for me? Like
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: I didn't get those that information. So through trial and
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: tribulation or maybe.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Movies.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: You know, things you pick up on or what accepting
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: what someone gives you, you know for a time frame
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: until you say you know this is not right, or
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: like I deserve more. But yeah, as a woman, as
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: a young woman, I didn't get that from my parents,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: like this is how you should date or this is
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: how a man should treat you and take you out,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: court you, et cetera. I saw the movies, TV shows.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: I learned through that what what is dating?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: To you?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: What is what is dating? You know everybody has like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: asking someone out, hanging out having sex or not having sex.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: We're serving the prown like what is dating? Yeah, like
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: some people have for three months they have a three
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: months rule or whatever you make in that face, and
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: that's how we get them babies that we was talking
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: about earlier.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: So you know, everybody want to fuck, nobody want to date.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: But what is dating? Like what is and is it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: intentional or is it just like it's a sex partner.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: You know, what is dating can be a wide array
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: of things, right, You're good?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: Like I can't. What's going on?
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: Is dating boyfriend and girlfriend the relationship?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: No? Dating?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: No to me, No, I think it's for everybody. But
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: for me, dating is everything before the relationship. So is
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: it to me? To me, I'm only speaking for myself.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: What about dating? Like actually dating? Going out to what
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: Because some people you can have a whole relationship with
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: women that never date her.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: You can, and you can to date somebody and never
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: been in a relationship with them.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: No, So don't take the don't take that far.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: What I'm saying is every woman that I messed with
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: for months upwards of maybe even a year, I just dating.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: Everyone did not. I did not take out.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: I did not go meet their friends or have them
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: around my friends or whatever.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: That's dating.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: I mean as long as if you and the person
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: interacting intimately one on one, spending quality of time together.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: To me, that's dating. That's talking spending time sex.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: Sorry, does these do these words matter?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: Am I off? Am my buggy?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 6: That's why I asked, because everyone has a different definition
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: of what different when it starts when it moves into
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: something else.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: I think dating is actively trying to work towards a relationship.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: I think that's a very intentional thing. Dating is active
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: actively if you're dating someone. Now, if you're out dating,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: that's a completely different context of the world.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: But does everybody. I think that this goes back into
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: the conversation we was having a couple of weeks ago
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: about we need to be teaching our children how to date, like,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: because so many of us don't really know what it is,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: what what the terminology is. We have all of these
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: different things and metrics situationships were talking we just fucking.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: We just thought that, and it's actually sick and sad.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's a lot of women that think that
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: we dated, that we were just fucking.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, because how do you get to fucking before
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: you even dated?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: Yes, Woven be trying to lock and it down.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I think that these are the conversations that we need
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: to have because I'm gonna really make this like a
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: once again a very New York thing. A lot of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: people up here we were never taught how to date.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: We were never taught what dating looks like. So we
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: had to go through the ebbs and the flows, and
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I think that for me, I have always been very
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: into about having conversations with people that have experienced things
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: that I have not to try to get knowledge from
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: them on what's right and what's wrong. Yes, I have
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: been through the ebbs and flows also, but I've also
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: opened up and spoken to people, and I have a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: clearer understanding of what dating is and what it isn't.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: And when I sit on this podcast and say, I've
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: had like maybe two real boyfriends in my whole life,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Like at the time, I thought that I was in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: a relationship, and when you look back and you compare
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: it to a real relationship, that wasn't shit. That was nothing.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: We was just talking. We was just somebody that I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: just liked, Like you was somebody that I was just
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: like hanging out with from time to time, or a
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: situationship or whatever the case may be. So that's why
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: I think that it is really important to like delegate
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: what is and what's not right that's real.
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  Speaker 4: I totally agree with that, and man, you are totally correct.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: We really need to teach our children in those dating
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: years what it's like when somebody is trying to talk.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: To them, fuck them.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Or date them, completely different energies, actions, motives, all of it.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: And I don't think that I've never had that conversation.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: I mean in a way I have because I told
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: my daughter specifically, bring.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: That man to this house. You got to shake my hand,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: you got to knock on my door. Yes, I told
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: this one to say he has.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: To meet me, and he has to want to. If
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: he doesn't want to, that's saying something red flag number one.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: But also when you're a girl, there's a difference between
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: a dude meeting your family and you meet in a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: dude's family. Don't bring no nigga to my daughter. You
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: ain't meet their family yet, because he's not that dead ass.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: You got to go over there first. I need to
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: I need you to go over there first. Did you
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: meet his mother? Did you meet his dad? No? Nah,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't want to meet this nigga.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I agree with that either. How
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: you got to his crib?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: What you mean same way he got to my crib?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Because y'all, Because man, y'all know how y'all are. Y'all
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: not just gonna introduce just anybody to y'all. Mother's I'm
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: not exactly.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: Exactly either.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Don't bring me no.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: I mean the guy that's coming to pick up my
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: daughter first date, I meet him. I meet him on
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: the walking. You meet my moms down the line. It's different.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: Guarantee of yo, I protect this woman. I'm letting her
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: into your care. She comes back the same way she left,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: or you get changed mood. You understand what I'm saying.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: That's a different, whole different thing than meeting my mother.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I get that, But you see what I'm saying. I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: think for me because I'm specifically talking about my oldest
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: we don't live in the same house, so it's a
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: little different. So my rules a little bit different when
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: it comes to Parker. When it's time for her to date,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: the rules are gonna shift, but they're also gonna be
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: very dead ass, like, don't bring no little nigga to
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: my house. If you if that nigga did not introduce
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: you to his ya, there is no date until you
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: go to his mother or he bring you in front
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: of his mother and say I am interested in this girl.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. I don't want to meet
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: that nigga. I don't want to meet no nigga who
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: mother don't know you exist.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: I fuck with that. It do not matter that, I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: fuck with that. I just think that your mom's just
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: like the pinnacle.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is the pinnacle. And if the pinnacle is
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: not worth my daughter, then you're not worth me to me.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we gotta get to that point though. That's
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: not somewhere.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna just.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Know the off the and when you come, I need
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: I need a report card in hand. That's the first
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: thing I need to see.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just thinking about the like you said,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: like how does how is she getting to the guy's house, like,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: which would mean that she would be picking him up
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: from the date the first date, or you know, like
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: why was.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: You at my house or at my.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: Mom walking up to right unless you were sneaking me
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 6: in and your mom, I mean the door.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: It could be at the door. It could be very
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: much like before before I'm allowed to date, my mama
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: said that I got to meet your mama first. I
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: got to shake your mama.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: Here, and a mother would have to require that from
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: her son or the father. You know, I don't know,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: I haven't thought of it yet, but I really I'm
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: scared of it of just like over aggressiveness and bullying,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: like you know, these are things that happened, and so
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: I just think of what to instill in them when
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: dealing with women and being sore for being honest, being truthful, listening.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: But thankfully I'm not in the dating years yet. But
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: I see it in my older son how he acts
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: around girls now. So I'm like, he ate, he's eight, Yeah,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: he likes, he likes to put on his aggression and
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: like you got, He's at the park today pushing just
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: throwing his swing for no reason. I'm like, why are
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: you doing that? Like, but I'm like, oh, it's girls around,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: so I see it.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: Is that so crazy how they change?
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe too, My son Elijah, middle school is up.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: Did you see those videos of.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: A I did?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: My son is just autistic. He's eighteen, but his hormones raging.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Poor baby.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: We go down to the village. I want to buy
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: them some sneakers. It's something we went to do. And
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: we walk into the pizza shop. It's three girls in
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: their teenage years. I want to say, seventeen is sixteen,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: seventeen is something like that. So he gets this thing
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: where he just starts staring at me.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I'm like yo.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: So me and him talking to ourselves, and I turned
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: around and ask the girls, hey, ladies, my son is autistic,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: but he really wants to know how to talk to women.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: What are some tools that y'all think that he should
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: use to talk to women? And they turn around, they're like, hey, well,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: first you ask the name and then you be kind,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: and so he's like, I'm Elijah, I'm kind and they
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: were like one of them was really cool. The other
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: two was kind of like, yeah, I can't believe he
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: put us on the spot like this or whatever. Maybe,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: and of course they're young. It's some old ass man.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: It's you know, introducing his son to us or whatever.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: But it was a good it was a good moment.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: Later on that day we wind up at David Busters.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: So now he's like, I'm going to go talk to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: more girls. I know how to do it.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: Now. Oh my god, did y'all see the.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Video streak out? He's like trying to do it.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: He's trying to her. He can't walk up to them.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: His son, his brother is pushing him like go ahead,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: and he's like, yo, I can't. I can't come daddy, Come,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: come do it again. Come, I'm like, introduce you to
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: the brand of women.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: Because that's just something I feel like men go through
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: in general. That that trying to talk to a girl
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: either she could be like away for me, Like yeah,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: Like there's a lot of New York's.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: First experiences be crushing us, yo, the way women look
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: at you and just turning back to you, and.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: I feel so bad, like of all the all the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: dismissing I've done, like talking to me, it's the.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: Fuddle look too, Like I can't believe you're doing this.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: The audacity looking and laugh. Yeah, damn, we're not good people. Bro,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: somebody the other day.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: You did that to somebody the other day.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: That's why throw laugh yo, y'all be crushing Yeah, y'all.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: I looked at my friend a lot because because in
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: my head it was like the audacity of you you
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: really thought, no, thank you, you tried, you really tried.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: You think out of your fucking mind.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Day that I just.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Want men to have, Like it's a thin line, like
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: find a mirror before y'all do certain things, like you
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: gotta find a mirror, like you can't you you gotta.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: Mirror, get it. In the but because also men don't stop,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: they don't say.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: No, they don't know how to because they give me
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: because then they get upset. And it's just like you
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: didn't even like I got in a full suit walking
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: with my homegirl coming from work. You look like you've
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: been standing on the corner all day, like you have
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: nothing but dick in audacity, Like you really, like in
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: your head, you really thought like, yeah, I'm a getter.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: And I'm the seventeenth one today.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: The fuck out of here. Like you look like you've
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: been on the court of a broadened market all fucking day.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: You look like you ain't got a haircut, you ain't
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: took a shower, that you didn't smoke four l's, and
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: you have the sheer audacity I have.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: On a suit.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: What makes you think that we should even have a conversation.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: So just because you got on a suit, I can't
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: try to talk to you.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, go find the bitch that's in your lane. Go
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: find the other bitch that was across the street on
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: the other side of the street. Go find her and
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: go talk to her.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: She said, nigga, don't got dress shoes and shit. We
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: went to this before.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: We went through this before like I'm sorry, like you
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: have to. That's like, no, I don't want to make
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: that analogy right now, because nope, I'm just I just
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: want people to stay in their fucking lane.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: Stay in your lane, just for the job you want,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: not for the one you have hello date, for the
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: job you want, not for the ones you have. I
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: love that, So I'm good impressed. If I think that
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: you attractive, I'm going at you. That's about my confidence levels,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: not what about what I'm wearing.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: Were you wearing? Where you at? What you did all day?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: The audacity long ass they y'all right, naima, thank you
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: for sitting here amongst my million men versus women conversations.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: Of course it was fun. I loved it.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: Did you enjoy yourself? Even the soft part when we we?
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: I know that was probably that was.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: The best part, because.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Why I didn't know that you didn't like women's soft.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: Like real soft, not fakes off. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: Why do you think we're a fake like coach letters?
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: No, we are two good coach leather bags in here.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: They're nice and fool You're the Lancey Street le bitch
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: you wish you motherfucking wish.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: Ho Naima please again.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 6: You can find Naima on Instagram, TikTok.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: What you got coming up? What can think of?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: People will support you?
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 6: I don't know what I have. I have nothing lined up.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: I'm just enjoying myself and outside chatting, talking to people
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: up and shoulders, trying to find my way still. I mean,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: I'm working on music. I have no release date, nor
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: do I know what the fuck I'm doing out here.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on in music, but but
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: I made some. I'll be thinking as I'm making I'm like,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: where the hell is supposed to put this?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Like was listening to AI artists earlier?
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: What am I supposed to do with this? So, but
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: I'm optimistic about what I can do with it. I'll
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: be talking to chat GBT, like what can we do?
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: Did you name your chat?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: No? I didn't give it a name.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: I expect more from you talking it.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: Sometimes we'll be talking, but I'm trying to figure it out.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: But talking about the only child?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: You got kids and a fiance. Why the fuck do
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: you need to talk to somebody?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: But my chat has a name?
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Why does your chat have a name? You think it's
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: her friend. And it's not like a tool to help
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: you get through. You don't use it like a tool,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: like did you name you? Did you name your hammer?
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: She named Edwin Bishop.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Na Son. You don't name tools.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta pick my kids up.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Sorry, so good, all good.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: We'll see y'all next week. Thank you so much tonight
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: in the Supreme.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, y'all. This was fun, so shameless,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: like like.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Two parts from that movie. But named himself. He named
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: himself the AI.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: Yes, he named himself.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: Did you say, name yourself?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I'm going to get my base.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: His name was Cipher.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: I said, yo, I need another more mature name that
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: pits where I am today in.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: Life, more professional names.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he came up with these.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Different names that sound like that one.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: Bishop.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: When are you gonna do this?
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: Are ya gonna still do