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Almost Famous OG: Vacation Mode with Andi Dorfman Hart · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: Hi. It's Trista at the Almost Famous OG's podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited about today. She's one of the favorite bachelorettes
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  Speaker 1: of all time and also one of mine. She's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: She's a former assistant district attorney, a two time New
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  Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, and she's now a proud
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  Speaker 1: wife and mom to a beautiful baby girl. We met
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  Speaker 1: her on jan Poplos season of The Bachelor, and then
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  Speaker 1: she became our bachelorette. It's Andy Dorfman Hart and I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited to welcome her to the podcast. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean seriously, it really has been way too long. I
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  Speaker 1: think the last time we saw each other in person
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  Speaker 1: was the reunion.
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  Speaker 3: Which they need more of.
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  Speaker 1: I totally totally agree, Like I have been pushing for
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  Speaker 1: that for so long, to have like a just a
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  Speaker 1: giant reunion of everyone.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I totally agree. It was so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: Because I haven't met like half the newer girls.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, right, and you know they're all on our
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  Speaker 1: on our Betty group chat, but you know, like not
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  Speaker 1: everyone responds to.
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  Speaker 3: Messages, you know, you see, it's also just like so
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  Speaker 3: funny because like I've never met half these people, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like texting like wishing him the best of luck,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm actually genuine about it, but it
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  Speaker 3: sounds so creepy because I've never met them. Totally, that's
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  Speaker 3: so true.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and children are growing up. We're going to get
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  Speaker 1: into all things Harper. But but first I want to
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  Speaker 1: go back to and just you know, life in general.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to The Bachelor, so where
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  Speaker 1: it all began, because of course this is the OG
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  Speaker 1: podcast and we like to, you know, go back to
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  Speaker 1: all the memories. So with the Bachelor, how did you
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  Speaker 1: go on the show? Were you nominated? Did you nominate yourself?
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  Speaker 1: How did all of that go down?
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  Speaker 3: I was actually working. I was a DA at the time,
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  Speaker 3: so I was working as a prosecutor for the government
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  Speaker 3: and like obviously on government salary. And my girlfriend's like
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  Speaker 3: there's a free like casting call with free wine and beer,
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  Speaker 3: like you should go, and I was like, free drinks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in.
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  Speaker 3: I literally went for the free drinks Trista, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: even kidding. And it was like at this great bar
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  Speaker 3: where I lived. So I was in like a skirt
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  Speaker 3: suit and I pulled up and everybody was in like
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  Speaker 3: bandage dresses, like super cute high heels, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, I was in a suit.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, that is why you got cast, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: they look for professional people.
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  Speaker 3: I know. I wouldn't have comment like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: And the best part about is I didn't even get
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  Speaker 3: free drinks because as soon as I got there, this
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  Speaker 3: girl was like, oh, come with me, and we started
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  Speaker 3: talking and then she like gave me a packet sent
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  Speaker 3: me out the back door. And so the irony of
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  Speaker 3: it all is like I literally didn't get the free drinks.
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  Speaker 3: Damn it all.
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  Speaker 2: Well you got some later.
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  Speaker 3: I got a lot more later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the show was definitely not one to keep away
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  Speaker 1: free drinks when when you're on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, you got some later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true like they wanted people to be drinking
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  Speaker 1: a lot and then that all stopped. Okay, so when
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  Speaker 1: you met Juan Pablo, what were your first thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be him because they
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  Speaker 3: had already told us, and I hadn't like watched any
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  Speaker 3: of the seasons really, but obviously back then I feel
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  Speaker 3: like it was everywhere, so you knew what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: And I just remember I was like, he's hot. He's
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  Speaker 3: an athlete, he was very good looking. I didn't know
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  Speaker 3: anything about him, but I was like, I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm young, this is a trip. He's hot, Like why not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally right that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really good luck game, Yeah yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: and the whole alf. I mean, I know you've got
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  Speaker 1: a thing for athletes. We've talked about that before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, par I do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so when you know the show is going, we
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  Speaker 1: all know the history, but when did you know that
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  Speaker 1: he was not the one for you?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, Okay, it's kind of weird to think
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  Speaker 3: back to this, but I remember being like, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: just need to see him meet my family. Oh I
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  Speaker 3: just need to see like go on a one on
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  Speaker 3: one date. And then like each time I kept doing that,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I just need to see a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more, a little bit more. So it was in hindsight,
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  Speaker 3: he was never the guy for me. But a I
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  Speaker 3: was having like a lot of fun. I met good girls,
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  Speaker 3: we had great dates. So there was just like something
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  Speaker 3: kind of keeping me in it the whole time until
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  Speaker 3: I think, like Towards the end, I was very homesick,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, all right, I'm done. It's not
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  Speaker 3: for me, like there is no next thing to look for.
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  Speaker 3: I had kind of you know, explorted, and then I
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  Speaker 3: was just like, it's not for me. But there were just
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  Speaker 3: little things that kept me going, which is weird in hindsight.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, do.
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  Speaker 1: You feel like you would have done the whole Oh
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  Speaker 1: maybe I'll I just need one more thing. I just
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  Speaker 1: need one more thing in real life?
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  Speaker 3: Probably no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, because because it's a television show,
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  Speaker 1: you probably felt like, oh, well this is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: work out, and maybe I'll just you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Is that how you felt?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And also you're just like in this blur like back then,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't about social media, it wasn't about necessarily the TV.
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  Speaker 3: Like we were traveling to crazy cool places. You were
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  Speaker 3: doing these like amazing dates. So I think you were
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  Speaker 3: just in like vacation mode, and no one wants to
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  Speaker 3: get out of vacation mode, you know.
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  Speaker 2: No, well, of course not.
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  Speaker 1: And did you have your job on hold, like where
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  Speaker 1: you want to leave an absence?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I told them, may be back in like two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna go do this. I thought
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  Speaker 3: they would never let me do it, and it turned
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  Speaker 3: out my boss was like, oh my god, you have
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  Speaker 3: to do this. It's like so fun and you're young,
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  Speaker 3: go do it. And I literally told them i'd be
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  Speaker 3: back in a couple of weeks. And I remember it
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  Speaker 3: was like eight or nine weeks later and I emailed
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  Speaker 3: them and I was like, so.
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  Speaker 2: Stoopsies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they had been falling along on like the
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  Speaker 3: blogs and stuff. I feel like everyone knew where we
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  Speaker 3: were at that time, and we didn't realize like there
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  Speaker 3: were all the like like the blogs that were kind
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  Speaker 3: of snooping on it and spoiling it.
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  Speaker 2: So they like reality Steve, Yes, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's so big. It's huge when we were doing it.
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  Speaker 2: He is still he's still out there.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him forever, but I know that
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  Speaker 1: he I think he has a podcast now, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's still he's still dialed in.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who his contact was.
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  Speaker 1: Or is, but that's crazy that he's he got scoop.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he always got scoop or everyone knew.
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  Speaker 3: My mom knew I was the whole time based on him.
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  Speaker 2: That's hysterical.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, I guess I let everything go
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  Speaker 1: to the waist diet on your season. Okay, so how
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  Speaker 1: soon after the Bachelor did they contact you to be
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. I remember I went back to work
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  Speaker 3: for at least a couple months because people would like,
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  Speaker 3: bring me a rose. It would be like funny, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, aired, So it was definitely airing, and
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  Speaker 3: it probably I take that back. They told me at
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  Speaker 3: Women Tell.
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  Speaker 1: All okay, yeah, they asked you on stage.
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  Speaker 3: No, not on stage, but they had asked me at
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  Speaker 3: Women Tell, and I think I had signed the contract,
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  Speaker 3: and back then there were rumors that like multiple people
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  Speaker 3: signed contracts, so it still wasn't like solidified for me. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't until the very first night that I was like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I'm actually the bacherette.
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  Speaker 2: Well I think all of us feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like until you get there, or at
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  Speaker 1: least you should, because I feel like, after being in
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  Speaker 1: this business for almost twenty five years, like you never
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  Speaker 1: believe until you are actually there. You know, like things
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  Speaker 1: can fall through the cracks and it cannot happen, So
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  Speaker 1: don't bank on it. So that's so true. But that's
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  Speaker 1: interesting about the contract. So being a lawyer, you signed
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  Speaker 1: the contract that night without looking over it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I we had like negotia something I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is like eleven pool Okay, but there
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  Speaker 3: was a contract in like maybe I'd already seen it
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  Speaker 3: and I signed it at Women tell I just remember
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  Speaker 3: at Women Tell All, I felt like there was extra
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  Speaker 3: protection on me, and I feel like you'd get that,
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  Speaker 3: Like I didn't realize it at the time, but they
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  Speaker 3: knew I was gonna be the bachelor, and I just
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  Speaker 3: looking back, there were a lot of like softball questions.
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  Speaker 3: It was definitely like, you know, they did my hair
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  Speaker 3: and makeup and they weren't doing everyone's hair and makeup.
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  Speaker 3: There were little things that I was like, Okay, this
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  Speaker 3: is a different level of kind of protection here.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. Yes, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell when you're in that position. Were you
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  Speaker 1: excited about it, Like, how did you feel about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel like it could happen that you would
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  Speaker 1: meet someone?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: For sure. I mean I think I was just like
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  Speaker 3: young enough, you know, I think I was what twenty seven,
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight, and like it had historically worked out a
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  Speaker 3: lot before me, you know, like there was a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good track record on all of it. So for sure,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm going to do this. I thought,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent I was going to find my husband.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, this is going to be the way
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  Speaker 3: I find it of all people, you know, like a
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  Speaker 3: prosecutor is going to find love on reality TV. I like,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, That's how I felt.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you felt this way, but
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  Speaker 1: I felt like the producers knew me at this point
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  Speaker 1: and they were going to have a way better shot
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  Speaker 1: of finding someone for me than I was just hanging
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  Speaker 1: out in Miami. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I felt like everyone was kind of on the
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  Speaker 3: same page at least, you thought that everyone wanted to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, get married and find love there. I felt
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  Speaker 3: like that was my guys at least, I mean most
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  Speaker 3: of them. I'd say probably ninety five percent of them,
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  Speaker 3: like truly wanted like a relationship. So it was different
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  Speaker 3: from just like dating and not knowing what someone wanted totally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so right. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So can you can you believe that we're actually
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  Speaker 1: going to be called the bachelorette for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: our lives, Like, for the rest of our lives, you
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  Speaker 1: are the bachelorette. Is that a label that you like
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  Speaker 1: or that you eventually think that you're going to retire?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, here's the thing is, it is like
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  Speaker 3: it is part of my life. And there have been
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  Speaker 3: times where I've been like, oh gosh, like not embarrassed,
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  Speaker 3: but when people come up to you sometimes I feel
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  Speaker 3: like around friends or something like oh my god, I'm
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  Speaker 3: like all right, you know. But all in all, like
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  Speaker 3: it was the coolest experience of my life, and it
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  Speaker 3: is something that really did change my life and in
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  Speaker 3: a lot of ways has defined my life. And I've
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  Speaker 3: kind of just accepted that. In the beginning, it was
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  Speaker 3: harder to accept that. And now I look back at
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  Speaker 3: like the crazy perks and the cool people I met,
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  Speaker 3: and like, it really is a wild thing that we did.
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  Speaker 2: Whow Like, I can't even.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine for you being the first, because it's wild for
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  Speaker 3: me being like I think that was the tenth you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, were you That's what I was gonna I was
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  Speaker 1: going to ask that I don't know, I can I
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  Speaker 1: always forget the order. I mean, please, It's like if
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  Speaker 1: you have twenty twenty children, you can't remember their ages.
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  Speaker 1: So so yes, no, I I think it is crazy,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm actually really proud of it, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: love I love being one of a very small group
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  Speaker 1: of people who have all experienced this.
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  Speaker 2: Very unique experience. And you know, it's all.
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  Speaker 1: It's different for all of us, all of our all
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  Speaker 1: of our paths were different, but we all definitely know
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  Speaker 1: what each other at the core, you know, went through
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  Speaker 1: and experienced, and it is such a such a cool thing,
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  Speaker 1: such a blessing. But because for me too, it obviously
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  Speaker 1: changed my life and in incredible ways, my kids would
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  Speaker 1: not be alive if if I have done it, And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you probably wouldn't have found your family
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  Speaker 1: this way, you know.
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  Speaker 3: It all kind of works out in certain ways. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have been in New York, I wouldn't have been
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  Speaker 3: in California. I wouldn't have met my husband all I
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  Speaker 3: was in California. So yeah, it's just like I kind
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  Speaker 3: of just learned that it's a cool part of my life.
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  Speaker 3: And there are some things where I'm like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 3: I wish you know, that wasn't on national television. But
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  Speaker 3: for the most part, like I do have an overall
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  Speaker 3: really good feeling about it, especially as I've gotten older.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean maybe that's just because we're we're
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  Speaker 1: wiser as we get oldern show.
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  Speaker 2: Just a little more mature. Okay, do you still keep
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  Speaker 2: up with the show?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: I mean honestly, like I never really kept up with
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  Speaker 4: the show now, especially I right now, they're so I
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  Speaker 4: can't and I like reality TV show, I'm just like
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  Speaker 4: I'm more of like a real.
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  Speaker 3: Housewie or like, yes, I don't know, I just never
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  Speaker 3: really kept up with the show. And especially after I
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  Speaker 3: did it, there's no way. I tried to watch like
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  Speaker 3: a couple episodes, and I was in such like producer
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  Speaker 3: mode that I couldn't enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: That's so interesting that you say that. When you say
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  Speaker 1: producer mode, explain that to the people who are listening, So.
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  Speaker 3: You start to realize, like who gets good edits who's
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  Speaker 3: like maybe last out of the limo. That was always
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  Speaker 3: like a prime realistic They would say, you can tell,
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  Speaker 3: you can just I don't know. Once you've done it,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of know the ropes, so you can tell
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  Speaker 3: what's manufactured, which very little was. That was probably the
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  Speaker 3: number one question I used to get was how much
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  Speaker 3: of it is scripted? And I would say none of
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  Speaker 3: it back then, at least like none of it. But
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  Speaker 3: there are situations that you get put into, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And so I just noticed that as like someone who
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  Speaker 3: has already done it, and I've oh, there's a season
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  Speaker 3: he's last, or you know, that's the good edit. Right,
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  Speaker 3: I need to just like turn my brain off to
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  Speaker 3: enjoy it, and I just could not turn my brain
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  Speaker 3: off once it was on.
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  Speaker 1: That makes so much sense. I haven't ever thought about
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  Speaker 1: it like that, But you're so right. Was social media
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  Speaker 1: a thing when you were on the show? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Not really? I remember we when I went on The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 3: they made us go on private for Instagram and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, like twenty followers probably like back then
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  Speaker 3: you literally called like people you knew are like your family.
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  Speaker 3: Right then after got off it did it started to
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  Speaker 3: get bigger and bigger, not in the same way that
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  Speaker 3: like some people after me did. Like I feel like
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  Speaker 3: chrys Soul's season was right after mine. He was the Bacheler,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like those girls like blew up with social.
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  Speaker 2: Media, yes, Caitlin, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And like Ashley, I actually no, Lauramazon, Yeah, I just feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like that Baca.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yep, yes, and kind of started to blow
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  Speaker 3: up the social media.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true.
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  Speaker 1: I yeah, obviously I didn't have any social media to
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  Speaker 1: deal with. Did you feel like you were when people
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  Speaker 1: would reach out on social media after you were done
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  Speaker 1: with the show, because I'm sure they did, even though
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  Speaker 1: you were saying like I only had twenty followers. Do
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  Speaker 1: you feel like everyone was positive or were there some
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  Speaker 1: trolls in there being mean?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely not. Oh no, no, I feel like social media
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  Speaker 3: is like, I don't know the place for people. They
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  Speaker 3: just bed and be crazy. Like it was definitely crazy
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  Speaker 3: at the time. We had a lot of blogs at
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  Speaker 3: the time, like I remember, I don't know if it
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  Speaker 3: was like Reddit or like some other like the forums
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. Those were where you really had to stay off.
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  Speaker 3: People were still very much in the forums.
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  Speaker 2: Got it less.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like in like direct messaging and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, yes, true.
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  Speaker 3: Twitter was actually, oh my god, it's all coming back
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: to me it is.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, the mommy brain has been blocking it. Yes,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: the live tweeting, I do remember doing that and obviously
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: being a huge fan of yours.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people were positive, very negative.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I do remember, well this was on her season,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: but Caitlin got like death threats, and you know, people
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: were really mean and I think.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: They still are. Yeah, uh huh for sure, maybe even
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: more so.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: So.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Do you watch The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives since
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you're a housewife fan?
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: We watched the first season, and I will say I
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: didn't watch the second season because towards the end of
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: the first they were like I felt like they were
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: so mean to each other. The girl. Oh yeah, I
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: don't know if you got that vibe, but it was like.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need to watch before Bachelorette.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: But I like the girl that's the bacherette. Though she's
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: the star of the show. For sure, she's gonna be
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: great like she was. Definitely she wasn't one of the
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: mean girls, but there were a lot of It was
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: just kind of like Caddy, I was like, I don't
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: want to I don't feel like watching this.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: It's not my Yeah yeah, yeah, it's bringing me down.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: What advice do you have for Taylor?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Oh boy? I mean I always say to try and
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: enjoy it as much as you can. It does go
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: so fast. And I know that's cliche everyone says that,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: but it really does, and you start to overthink every
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: little thing instead of just trying to have fun and
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: enjoy it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, you're so right. I feel like that's just
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: great life advice too.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And also trying not to worry about what other people think,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: which is way easier said than done. But that's also life. Like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: people are going to have opinions. Whether you are say
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: everything perfectly and make you know, every good intention possible,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: somebody's going to have a bad thought or about it,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: you know, judgment about it, and you just you cannot
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: live for those people.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: True story.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: How do you deal with those kind of people these days?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Because I'm sure you don't get a lot of that now.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably similar to me. Yeah, but
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: there are people who like this homecoming.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I just posted about Blakesley and Max going to homecoming,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and of course the the people come out of the woodwork.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Like one lady was like, that would be an immediate
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: no for my daughter to wear that short of a dress,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, do you understand that in the world
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that we live in today, you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Can't find a long dress like period?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and like, you never wore a short skirt
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: like when I was growing up, they were tight and
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: short and at least she had a yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Exactly invented the bandage dresses, lady.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I feel like there is negativity out there?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: How do you deal with that?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in the mommy world. I've learned in
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the mom world, there are like what moms will say
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: to you is like mind blowing to me, as fellow moms, like,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just I've never been the type of person that
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: would say anything to anyone anyways like that, So we're
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: already kind of I'm already a little shocked. But then
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: what moms will say to other moms is mind blowing
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: to me. And honestly, like I have not figured out
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: how to not care if I'm being totally honest, like
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: there's no way I can tell you that, Like comments
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: don't bother me. Some of them are so ridiculous, And
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I will at times like scroll back and look, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this person's just off their rocker, like they've
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: just been ridiculous when the start, And sometimes that makes
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: me feel better, And a lot of times I just
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: have to completely try and ignore it. And try and
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: just like read the positives. But I haven't figured out
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: how to completely not be bothered by the negative comments.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, thank you for the honesty, because I agree.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, same same, I'm sensitive and if
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: someone says something nasty, it's hard to not take that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: personally because even though they don't know you, it still hurts.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one wants to hear negative stuff, like, no
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: one wants to read that about themselves, whether it's right
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: or wrong.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Right, and especially about something that you care so deeply about,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: like being a mom, and for them to come at
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you for something that they think you're doing wrong when
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you're just trying to do your best. That's all all
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of us are trying to do is do our best.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I do think most negative comments are coming from like
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a place of unhappiness or you know, jealousy is a
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: weird word to use, but jealousy or just people that
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: are unhappy. And so sometimes I do try and just
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: like take a breath and be like, all right, they're
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: going through something that has nothing to do with me.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And so instead of trying to persually answer, just like
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: this is you know, their outlet, just try and brush
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: it off. Yeah, it's not easy.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to ignore and then block. I love
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the block button. I like, Hi, I'm just like bye
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: bye see yeah, peace out.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I love a delete comment to delete and they're like, oh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: you're deleting comments. Yeah, it's my wall. Of course, I'm
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: deleting comments. What do you mean I should leave it
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: up there to go back and reread the negative comment?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Iverythink I should use that up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this is my page. So I'm going
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: to handle my page how I want to handle my page.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: So if you have a problem, bye bye, see you later.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, delete and bok I love them.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah same.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Nick Vile was your runner up. Have you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: followed his post show success, his pod or anything.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean like obviously killing it with the podcast.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I've run into him a little bit in LA, like
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: with his wife. But yeah, I mean I follow from
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: like Afar.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you guys don't stay in ta.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah it's awesome.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Actually, wait, he's hosting a new Netflix dating show. What
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: have you heard about this?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: No?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't either, Okay, I don't know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: A new depth Netflix dating show coming out next year.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Whole boy. That's that's exciting.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I know, right, I feel like I love to cheer
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: for the people from the show because we are this
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like crazy dysfunctional family and you know, even if we
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: don't like agree on things or whatever.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Also the hard work, like respect, the hard work. You know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: he hasn't gotten there without.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Them, totally.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: You are so right, but like respect the hard work.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Period. Agreed.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's called Age of Attraction and it's with his
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: wife Natalie. Set to a premiere in twenty twenty six.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Okay to my producer Jackie. Yeah, that's I mean, there's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: so many dating shows out now, it like Caitlin and Colton, and.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Then of course like all the Love Is Blinds and
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I'm watching that right now. Actually, are you Blakesley's obsessed?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: She was obsessed.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched that either, but yeah, maybe I need
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to add it to my list.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They are doing a Denver version.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I think that's now.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Actually it is is it Love is Blind or Love Island?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Which which is the Love is Blind?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Would be Denver. Love Island is like always in Fiji.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: That's a great show too. That's a mess.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It's a mess.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: It's so funny though. That's the one shoe, harperd can't
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: go on that's the one.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Ah, So you're saying that you would allow her to
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: go on Bachelorette.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Pretty much anything but Love Island. I mean I love
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Love Island, but like there's not a lot of clothing
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: more in there at all, Like you don't you go
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: into it, you know you don't, Like, yeah, it's not
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have a hard time with homecoming dresses.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, not that cool. No, this is like string
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: bikinis and like they make out with everybody, Like, yeah,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: very free, good for them, no judgment. But I could
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: not handle it. I can't.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as a mom, that would be hard to watch. Yeah, yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: we're not there yet. Okay, So you fell in love
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: on the show and then you settled back into reality
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: with Josh Murray and ended your engagement. I'm sure you haven't,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: but I have to ask have you talked to him?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: No? No, I'm pretty much like once it's done, it's done,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: especially like a dumpster fire, like I'm good, leave it
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to Birn you know, but also like yeah, for the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: most part, when I'm done, I'm done. Just in general.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and you were looking for more out of life,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: like you wanted to find your man, and thank god
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: if you if you had like not been done, then
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't have found him because would have been
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: still caught up in the whole Josh thing.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so long ago, and like when people bring
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: it up, I'm like, gosh, I almost like not forget.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: But I've had so much like more you know, personal,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: longer intense relationships since then that like most people don't
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: know about because I always kind of kept it private.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: But I've had such more like significant relationships since then
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: that I kind of like forget, Like, oh yeah, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: was engaged, Like it doesn't feel that way. It feels
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: just like so long ago, like that I was basically
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: dating in high school. Like that's how it feels like.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: It feels like a high school boyfriend.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like another lifetime.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah completely, yeah, I know, I totally totally understand that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were accurately portrayed on the show?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I always felt back then that, like
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I just didn't think they portrayed everyone as well rounded
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: as we were because by the way the elite, especially
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: as a female, like we were certain types of people
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: like that was not easy to carry a show like that,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and I know there was product, but like every single
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: one of us had a lot going on for ourselves
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: and was able to carry ourselves and carry twenty five
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: minute a time, quite frankly, and so I just kind
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: of always felt like they never like showed the full
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: picture of us, especially as the women leads.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, that's so interesting.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: You're right, well what they showed, I said, and did
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you know that part? I was never bothered by that
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I just always felt like they were
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: kind of missing a lot or like they could have,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you know, shah more about us.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's something that people don't understand is
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: so much ends up on the cutting room floor and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it's all about the storyline that they want to portray
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that you know, whatever ends up on the show is
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: has to be in the show for the storyline to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: play out. You know. Yeah, that's that's interesting. Okay, So
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: flash forward to we started the group chat and I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: don't remember when we even started it was it like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was it before COVID because we did that whole video.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll do that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I know we need to do another one, although it
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: would take like twenty minutes to watch it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: We did do that during COVID. Oh my gosh, I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: think that's my first real ever. By the way, I.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Think it might have been mine too. I think you're right.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That's so cute.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to my Instagram and see.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, so we're in this group chat.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously there's you know, at least one person
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: who has left, and we haven't added Taylor Frankie Paul
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to it yet, but she.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Will be joining. We just have to have someone get
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: her number.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: So what if we sent a text literally right now
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to the chat, what would your bet be like? We'll
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: say it when I count down one, two, three, Who
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: would be the first person to respond?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, you have you already have an idea?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, because it's obvious, but you'll come up
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: with it and just in thinking about it for a second,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: because she's always super supportive, and.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll you'll just think, okay, do do do do
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: do I'm about to.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Love Okay, Well then I'll I'll just tell you I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: would bet that Deanna would write back.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Dianna is one I feel like
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Caaitlyn writes back a lot.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dianna is just so supportive and sweet, and I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, she's kind of like me. I
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: try to respond quickly to text because if I don't,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: then I forget. Yeah, So that's why I'm so on
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: top of text messages or try to be you know.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if I don't, then I'm gonna I'm just
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: gonna forget.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: I want to look back in it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, let's see what the last. So I was
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: talking and my producer about that. She's like, do you
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: guys still have the chat? And I said, for sure,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we do, but it's mostly just like congratulations.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So last is Jojo pregnant?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So I was like, it's all about like marriages and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: babies and and then unfortunate you know, like when Katie
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Thurston was diagnosed, and like, you know that kind of
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: stuff like reaching out to just like send our love.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like it's just kind of like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: lifting each other up and cheering for each other when
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: we have good stuff going on.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, Milestone, Yeah, I love to do.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: It also kind of keeps me connected because I feel
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: like we all have such different lines and live in
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: different places, and the further out from the show, the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: less involved I tend to be. So it's nice to
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: still like have that part for me.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I please. I'm fifty three in a couple
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: of weeks, so I am definitely not.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: In the same like life space as most of it
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: most of the people. Yeah, okay, so you find Blaine,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you get married, You're talking about babies and wait, did
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: you you decided to freeze your eggs? Was this before
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you met Blaine or way before?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Actually, Caitlin Bursco and I did it together because we
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: did it with Whitney fish Off in Chicago. So I
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: was twenty nine, okay, and I did it and I
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: was very single at the time, so.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I had a good idea.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it twenty nine and completely single, like
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: no attachments to anything with anyone.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So why did you make that decision? I don't know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I think like Whitney and I had talked about it
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: and she was like, honestly, it's the best thing I
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: ever did. And I feel like I was just at
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: a time in my life where I'm like, I don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: know what's going to happen. I don't know, Like I
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: was living in New York, which you know is not
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: super conducive to like getting married younger, and I just
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: did it. I was like, I'm just gonna do this
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I think it's so just the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: fact that there's technology out there that that you can
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: freeze your eggs is so amazing.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't really like, I really didn't overthink it much.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I just was like, yep, I'm going to do it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, eight weeks later, basically I had
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: done it and it was done, and I don't really
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: think about it anymore, you know, until I need to.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: But I think subconsciously it definitely stuck with me for
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: a while. I think that's why I waited so long,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: you know, to a find someone but also beat up kids.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do you mean? You feel
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: like it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: The pressure was off of me a lot because I
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: had those eggs, and I feel like I didn't think
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: about it all the time, But subconsciously, I do feel
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: like that pressure had been relieved and so I wasn't
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: out there necessarily dating just to like have kids or no.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Felt that like clock. I never felt the biological clock ever.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You know, that's so interesting because I feel like that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: happens with you. Hear all the time about people who
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: have problems getting pregnant and then they adopt, and then
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: they get pregnant naturally because you know, the stress isn't
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: there anymore, and stress just works, you know, bad vibes
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: on your system.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And even still, like I had Harper at thirty seven
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: years old, you know, like, but I still didn't feel
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: that pressure and I still don't now because I'm like, okay,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: well you know, I have these eggs like to use.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: At some point in.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Fact, did you and you had Harper naturally? Did you? Guys?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Were you planning on were you working towards having a baby,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like you were actively trying? Yeah, we were, Okay, okay,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you were and it happened naturally. Was it like a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: long process for you?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I mean it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Was about I feel like we started trying like maybe
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: let's say September and happened April, So it wasn't super long,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: but it wasn't like you know, honeymoon.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, gosh, it took me two years.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not it's work.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: It really is. It's a whole roller coast of emotions.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: It's like it's its own podcast, Like, the emotions of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: trying to conceive is crazy.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: What kind of advice would you give to people out
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: there listening who who are thinking about freezing their eggs?
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'd say just do it, don't overthink it. It
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: was literally like, you know, four to eight weeks of
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: your life. And I will say, as long as cost
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: isn't associated with it, which that is a huge burden
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: with the cost. So I understand like if you need
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: to think about it from that perspective, but if cost
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: isn't an issue, it's a no brainer.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, love that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And Whitney actually I think she was still doing it. Yeah,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I think she just left.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she's in Chicago recently.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: You did, I was in Mexico with her.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, tell me the facts of like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not there yet, but I would love
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to just know like what this looks like at some
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: point because I am getting older. So yeah, I just
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I've talked to her recently about it. It's cool.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: So you're okay, so are you considering using one of
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: those eggs?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Are you guys talking about it?
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: We're I think we're just now going to start like
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: trying a little we needed to get through a little
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: bit with Harper, But now it's kind of a good time.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: So we'll see, like how long it takes, you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. We'll see if it's starting
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: to take a long time. Like again, I have that
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: there so.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and you still have eggs yeah on ice?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh that's on ice. That's so funny to say.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: So how long does the process take if you like
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: happen to take one of your eggs off off ice?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: How long does that process take? Do they just implant?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: How what is that process?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I mean they well, minds and eggs are not an embryos,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: it's not fertilized, so they thought they inseminate it. Then
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: they would do like genetic testing for it, and then
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I think they put it in you, you know, based
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: on an ovulation schedule. I don't know completely, but that's
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: the gist of it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, I mean that's so cool.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I love that you have. Science is so cool speaking science.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking was something that I wanted to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: do in my career. Do you ever think about law, Like,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: have you ever thought that you miss law and that
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you would go back to it.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually I'm doing guardian at item right now,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: so like I am, it's called guardian itt Item. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: it's like part of KASA, like Court Appointed Special Advocates,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: So I represent like kids in foster care that are
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: going through court proceedings for like placements. So there is
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: a little legality to that. But I will say, like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: you sit in court for a very long time, and
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: that definitely makes me not missed being a lawyer. You're like,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: all right, it's a lot of hours, it's a lot
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: of time. So this has been a nice way for
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: me to kind of dip my feedback into it without
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: fully like being a lawyer because I've got a lot
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: of other things i want to do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and parenting is hard.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't know.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine, no, unless you did like consulting work
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: or something. But do you have to go back to
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: get your your license or whatever.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it depends on your state. So I'm licensed
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: in Georgia. Like, I keep it in active status so
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I'll always have that. I pay, like, you know, my
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars a year because I don't care. I'm always
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: going to keep that. I earned it. But like I
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: have to would have to take the bar in South
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Carolina to go into court and practice. There's little loopholes
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: like general counsel, which is kind of boring blah blah blah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: but for the most part, Yeah, I would have to
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: retake the bar.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, got it. Yeah, that's for physical therapy for me.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I just mine.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't pay mine.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm done. I don't think I'm
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: going back, and I don't remember anything that I learned
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to anyway.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So there's that. Okay.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So something you've opened up a lot about is pregnancy
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and how much there's there's so much information about pregnancy,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: but not really about postpartum.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: How was your postpartum experience?
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I mean dark, really, Plaine and I laugh now because
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: like the first four or five months of postpartum are
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: like it's just dark. You're just like in a hole,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: you know, physically, mentally, emotionally, all of it. And yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, it's hard to explain.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're right, like they they need
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: to focus on that because.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Women need support in that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy also from a science perspective to
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: think about like you created a human being and not
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: like yeah just because of the man, like your hormones
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: created a human being. And so for all of that
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to just like release from your body, like that's not
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: a normal process, you know, like the build up of that,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: you know, just like you know, just like, oh my
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: babies out, I'm back to normal. It's not how it right.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Sometimes Instagram will fool you into thinking that is how
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Oh completely.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have really postpartum depression to speak of.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I was pretty lucky in that, but it is really
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: hard to like, you know, you you you mourn your
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: your body and you do have all this huge hormone fluctuation.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, please, when you get to menopause, we'll talk again,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: because oh my gosh, the menopause hormones are no.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Joke, right, and something's going on inside, Like it makes
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: sense in a certain way. I think for me, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: also wasn't like depressed, but I had a tough time
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: physically because I was so fit and I've always been
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: very fit, and I kind of stayed exercising. I mean
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I played tennis like the da Harper was born. Like
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: the day I went to the hospital and I didn't
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: bounce back like I thought I would, and like I
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: see online a lot, obviously I'm older, but still like, yeah,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: my body just didn't bounce back the way I thought
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: it would. So physically it was tough for me. But
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I had a good friend that was like, listen, everyone
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: goes through postpartum in some capacity, whether it's physically, whether
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: it's mentally, whether it's you know, their child, emotionally, whatever,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: it's like. You don't always see it, but everyone experiences
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: some version of postpartum, so mine was definitely like physical.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I would say, oh, that makes total sense. You were
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: so fit, but you are?
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: You look amazing.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I mean I've been you know, it's been. It's been work,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: more work than I thought it was going to be.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you gained how much weight with it?
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I gained like fifty pounds, but I lost like fifteen
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: out of the hospital, you know, like a lot of
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: water weight. And then I just like sat at like
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: in the one sixties for months. No matter what I did,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I just like was not moving.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Do you think it was hormonal?
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, a little bit. I had like my
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: lippid panels and everything, you know, tested I think it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: a little I also just think your body just does
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: what it does sometimes, like we all try to analyze it,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: and it's like whether it's metabolism, whether it's water weight,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: like I don't know. My body just was doing what it
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: was doing.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So you feel like you're back on track, You're good.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, getting there, you know, probably get to my
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: goal weight and get pregnant again. But that's crazy how
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Like just wait, I mean right, I actually are you nursing?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't nurse at all?
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, no, because I once I stopped nursing, like I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: feel like probably that day I got pregnant really with
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Blake's Lake. Yeah, it happened like clockwork, like the.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Second that I stopped.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: So but but obviously if you're not nursing, if you
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: haven't been nursing, then it wouldn't change anything. Nursing wasn't
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: for me, No, and it's not for everybody, and you don't.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: You do not need to even preface that, you know
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it is, it is what it is.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Some people love it. I loved it. Some people it
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't work for them, and that's okay.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Thank god. We have like options that you can use
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I was.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Actually seeing it. I was surprised that I didn't get
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: more heat from that because I was pretty open from
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: the start about not nursing.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: No one said, okay, good, I'm glad they didn't because
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't. Writ it's a personal decision. Yeah, yeah, it's true,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: because you're right the whole all of the moms have
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: are very opinionated about how to be the right kind
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: of mom.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, yeah. Surprising though, no one everyone's like, good
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: for you. I was like, very cool. I was a
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: little nervous about that.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, you do you, you do you?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about Harper. How is she?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: She is so a door?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Well, your videos, your stories every time when you're showing
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: her in her crib. The one thing I crack out
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: crack up about is all of her binkies all over it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, I taught us not because she would like wake
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: up in them all the night and like not be
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: able to find her pacifier. And I'd be like we
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Blaine and I would really sit and look at the monitor.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: We're like, girl, it's right above your head, like the
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: right to the right about it, Like one o'clock. You
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: can do this, And so I saw something put like
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: two in one time. We're like, wait, we should just
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: put three. And now like we just throw a handful
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: of binkies in there, like she finds them eventually, Like
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: it's so funny.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I love it, And you know what, those binkies are
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the best. That's what my kids used from the hospital.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like they gave them to us at the hospital,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and then I just kept buying them.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, I just bought from the hospital, Like I bought
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: all these like fancy swaddles and all these like things.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I end up using everything that the hospital had, all
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: those I re ordered those swattles, all the pacifiers, the bottles,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Like it's so funny.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That is so funny.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the fact that you could
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: probably reorder those like white towels with like the blue
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: and the pink stripe.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I still have them. That is hysterical because
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I still use them. I love them. I mean obviously
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: not for swaddling.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: You would have a field day going on Amazon with
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: the baby stuff because everything you probably had that was
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: like the highest rated is still the Grey Go, the
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Skip Pop, all that stuff, the og stuff is still
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: number one.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I love it, yeah, because I do feel like I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of fomo, like mommy fomo because
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I swear all of the gear and all of the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: clothes and I'm like, oh my gosh, I wish that
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: had been around when I.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Was a mom. Is just so cute now.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: But yes, it flashes me back seeing her passes in
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: her crib, like I'm like.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, that makes me think of my babies. Okay, so
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: tell me about her personality. Let me see it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: She is gonna be child, but she's tough, like she's
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: super tough. We were like at the park the other
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: day and someone like threw a ball in her face
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my, and she just laughed hysterically.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: She just laughs. She hit her head the other day
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: on the door, just laughs when I were like, she's yeah,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: but she's great. She's so smiling. I don't have anything
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: to base it off of, obviously, but like she's so happy.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: She smiles at everyone, like in the grocery store. She
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: is a screamer though she's very She's a high pitch
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: like I've never heard, and she can definitely use her voice,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: that's for sure. But I think she's gonna be sweet.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, she looks so sweet. She's gonna be so sweet.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: She gave you for Mama. I used to say that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: about Blakesley, that she was an extremist, like she was
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: either really happy or really mad or really sad.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: You know how'd that pan out?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Same?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're going through the teenage years andy,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: so oh yeah, it's real fun.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Not a good comparison right now.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, yeah, I can tell you about four
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: years ago. No, she she's they're both amazing. They're they're
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: living their best lives and doing great. But yeah, hormones
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: for teenagers. Okay, Halloween is coming up. Are you guys
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: doing a family a family costume or are you just
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: dressing up Harper?
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah we are. Yeah, we're gonna dress her up. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: mean she's going to be asleep. Honestly, I'm actually not
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: going to be here for Halloween because I have a
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: girls trip that got fast year. Yeah, and I'm like
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a terrible mom. But also like she's going to
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: be a sleep by seven, Like we're going to the
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: lights out. I was like, Lane, do I go? He's
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: like you go, Yes, you you go. So we have
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: like a couple of Halloween parties before, so we're going
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: to celebrate a week early. She's never going to know.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And I'm still trying to side on costumes though, because
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: they're all so cute that I'm like, I can't.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Decide, right, so cute, but you don't do a family costume.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: You just are I think we might have to. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: mean you kind of have to, right, Yeah, I wanted to.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Be a rubber ducky and I do. I did find
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: an outfit. So because she's obsessed with rubber duckies in
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: the bath, like she wants to sleep with rubber duckies, Like,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: you can't sound safe, and so I think we're going
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: to be like three rubber duckies.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: But I can't. I need to see that.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Send me a picture if you found the costume before
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: before you leave on your girls trip. If I make
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you feel any better. I missed Max's eighteenth birthday for
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the birthday trip with Caitlin that I went on. I mean,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you just have to every so often, you have to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: actually prioritize yourself.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, and you know what, there's a
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: lot of things to be in attendance for You're going
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to miss a couple of things exactly.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I try to be there for everything else, but this
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: just happened to fall on that, and I'm like, you
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: know what what would be doing anyway? We would be
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: blowing out candle, we'd be going out to dinner, you'd
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: be opening your presence. I can watch that on FaceTime
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and see all the pictures afterwards. So yeah, he knows
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'd love him. Okay, So books, you haven't come out
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: with a book in a while. Are you thinking about
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: writing another?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I feel like I want to. I will say this
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: is for a period of time, I was like, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: don't really have an ending, and now I do have
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: an idea of what I want to do. Now I
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: just need to find the time to do it. But
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I feel like I really like experienced my thirties in
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of different ways, and I think I kind
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: of needed to come to a stopping point at that
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: in order to like make a little sense of it.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: So now I do feel ready to write a book,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: and now I just have to find time.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it's hard to find the time. Gosh,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: it takes a long time. I do.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I just do a ghostwriter for once, but I don't
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: want to do the ghost writer because I've already done
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: two on my own. But from a time since, so we'll.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: See, yes, yes, yes, well regardless, I'm sure it will
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: be super popular if you decide to write one. I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: would love to read it. Okay, do you think your
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: time on reality TV is done? Would you be open
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: to doing anything else?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I never say never, but I feel like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: you know the inner workings of reality TV, Like it's
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: not easy, it's not there's a lot of bureau there's
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of like time on the back end of like,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: there's a lot a lot goes into it. Yeah, right now,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't see myself doing a reality show.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I would do a competition show though, for sure.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, Like which one.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I would love to do, like Traders or Special Forces.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I would be good at Traders, though.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I have said the same thing because I would love
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: to do Traders, but and I was recently asked would
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I be a trader? And I'm like, no, I am
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a horrible liar. Everyone could tell that I would be
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: a trader, Like I'm not an actress, So I feel
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: like I would just want to be a faithful That
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: show would be so much fun.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I know, but it's so gamesmanship that I'm like, do
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I have the brain capacity for that?
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Right? Right?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I can say that Special Forces having been on it
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: last season, like you could, you would definitely crush it.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like, once you set your mind to something,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: you know, and so much of it is mindset. So
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I know some people, if you want me to put
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: in a good word, I would.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Do I think I would do it. I'm alone to
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: me by the physical aspect of it, But I feel
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: like it'd be a good win as a mom, you know.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I feel like as moms used to need a win
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: sometimes sometimes, like did you just something?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: When they asked me why, Like what my why was?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: It was that my kids are leaving soon and I've
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: dedicated my life to them and their lives and our family,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: and I just wanted to kind of find out more
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: about myself. But the win, that's a great way to
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: describe it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I like that because you probably lose yourself. I can
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: already imagine, like you lose yourself in motherhood, like it's
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: a natural thing to do, Like it's just a maternal
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: thing that like I sacrifice whatever for Harvard's subconsciously, do
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: you know. I don't know if that's a male version
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: as well, but I know at least from a female version,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: even in this short of time, it's like, yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think for men for some reason, and I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's like biological, but I feel like
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's more for women.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: We do we.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I think we just integrate their lives into ours and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: it just becomes who we are. At least that's definitely
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: my experience. So thinking about them leaving is heartbreaking to me,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: but you know, also that's what you do. You prepare
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: them for life and let them fly, so hopefully it
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: will be.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: A good It's like fun times ahead too as more
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: being like an adult in like college and stuff and
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: like coming home to my parents and I had such
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: a different relationship and in like in a cool way.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys are so close, so yeah, I love,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I love.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I love thinking about that. Thank you. That makes me happy.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Do you live close to your parents? I do.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: My parents are in Atlanta, so we're like two and a.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Half hours okay, and you're in your can I say this,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you're in Greenville. You've said that before. Yeah, So have
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: you gotten together? Have you seen Holly Julia?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know her.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I've had a few.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Andy, you guys need to get where she on.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: She was on well, she was on Bachelor Pad. She
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: won Bachelor Pad with Michael. Yes, and gosh, I cannot remember.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Which who she was, which bachelor.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: She was, But I mean she's she's pretty og. She's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: around your same time.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're talking about. I know I've
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: had several people say something to me and I'm like,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I've never met her.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you guys, I need to connect to it
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: because I feel like you guys would love each other.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And she has two littles. They're a little bit older
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: than Harper, but still she's you know, in the mommy
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: or the early mommy stages. She just is so much
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: fun and just started a mage On company. Like I
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: don't know if you play Majong, but you should because
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: it's really fun.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, send me up with her. I've heard I've heard
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: my God several times.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, I love her and I love you, and I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: feel like you guys would get.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Along really well. Okay, girl.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: So when are we going to plan a trip with
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: all the all the Betties, all the bachelorettes?
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I want to so bad. I feel like I say
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: it all the time.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Adc to do it, so it's like on their dime.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I mean right, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna write Milsy today.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I don't even know who's in charge anymore because it's
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: been so long and I feel like everyone's come and
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: gone and like I can't keep up with who's still there.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I think Milsey is probably one of the only people
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: that I know, which is.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Why are you No he wasn't.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he didn't start until later. But you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: obviously just through the years, sure connected with him.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: You need a reunion, Yes, it would be.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: It would be so fun. I had so much fun
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: reunited with everybody. Yeah, just put it on air because
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: you know everyone loves us.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Just get it fun.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Everybody you've been like the wedding Jaden Tanner's wedding member,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: like we didn't know them very well, but it was
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: so fun, the best time, the best time.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I remember getting our hair and makeup done together and.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Yes I miss that stuff.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I do too, you know, and part of me if
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: we did a reunion would be like I would love
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: to just have us, but at the same time, like
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I want to meet everyone's children and just love on
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: all the babies. Oh and girl, I'm we're looking at
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: colleges in South Carolina.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: So if we do.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Come, you text me on the side. I want to know.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's there's a lot, but but yes, if we
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: come out there.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: You'll be getting a phone call.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: So okay, you're close to meet so that's good.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Which colleges are close to you?
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Well, Clemson, Charleston, Furman, USC.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, is Columbia near there?
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Our Oh yes, he's looking at there and Charleston. Ah.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Love that gives me a reason to get out there.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Reunion time.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Okay, Andy, love you so much and
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I know that everyone listening is going to love hearing
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: from you and how happy life is.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I just wish you all the best.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Thank you, you're the best.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming, Thanks for having me.