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141. [Florida] Adrianne Robert · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Mess and the dry
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  Speaker 1: Crum podcast. I'm care here with Stu, says do Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we are back this week and we are going to Florida, Florida. Sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very tired and I'm very tired, so I hope
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  Speaker 1: I have enthusiasm. We're supposed to record this last night,
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  Speaker 1: but I had a really bad headache and I went
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  Speaker 1: to bed at like nine pm. It is now nine
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  Speaker 1: to twenty four pm, and I would love to be
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  Speaker 1: in bed right now. But Stu went to go lay
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  Speaker 1: down with the children because we actually had a thunderstorm here.
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  Speaker 1: So also, let me just say that I missed out
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  Speaker 1: on going to sleep while it was raining, which never
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  Speaker 1: happens here. I mean, it does happen, but usually there's
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  Speaker 1: like hell and tornado warns and bad things happening in
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  Speaker 1: high winds. But the last few nights it has been
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  Speaker 1: just a thunderstorm. Yes. Anyways, the children of our daughter
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  Speaker 1: was afraid, so Stu had to go lay down in
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  Speaker 1: there in their room while they went to sleep. And
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  Speaker 1: then he fell asleep, and I'm texting, going where are
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  Speaker 1: he appears and he's like, I don't know when she
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  Speaker 1: fell asleep. I fell asleep. So anyway, so it's now
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  Speaker 1: nine thirty and I'm tired, but we're here to record
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, even though i'd like to say something tell
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  Speaker 1: me from a couple episodes ago, Stu, I never read
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  Speaker 1: the I never read the review where Stu said someone
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  Speaker 1: was complaining about the ads and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: get over it, that's not Stu did not convey that
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  Speaker 1: review very well. She wasn't complaining about the ads, complaining
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  Speaker 1: about the placement of the ads.
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  Speaker 2: And I said there was nothing we could do it, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But there is something to do. She was saying that
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  Speaker 1: that it's okay. So whatever they put the ads in,
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  Speaker 1: they're supposed to find like natural pauses. So for instance,
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  Speaker 1: like this is a pause, so they're supposed to find
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  Speaker 1: like a natural pause. But I don't know, maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: cutting into the middle.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't listen to this again. Like whatever is recorded,
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  Speaker 1: we edit as we go, and I don't. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna listen to myself again. I just can't do it myself.
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  Speaker 1: My my self esteem cannot handle listening to myself on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And I gotta listen to you all the time, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely not gonna listen to you anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So I will make sure this time when they go out,
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  Speaker 1: I will make sure it's not in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a sentence. Maybe find a natural break and put one in. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we need to be thinking about that
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  Speaker 1: when we're recording these. I do not know anyway, So
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  Speaker 1: I would just like to apologize to whoever other of you.
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  Speaker 1: Although I don't feel like we deserve three stars for that,
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  Speaker 1: just do five stars to say please. They're like, cause
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  Speaker 1: them bitches ain't gonna look at it unless I give
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  Speaker 1: them three stars. I gotta take a couple of stars
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  Speaker 1: off for them to notice now. Alice, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: she gave us a one star review because she said
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  Speaker 1: she wrote a whole entire yes about how terrible we are.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Alice, and we put a fair warning. We
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  Speaker 1: are inappropriate. We cuss and I laugh in uncomfortable situations.
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  Speaker 1: We have talked about this. I don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: handle uncomfortable situations except for joking about them. So that's
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  Speaker 1: how we do. And we do try to not I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, we try. Just never mind to we're never
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  Speaker 1: gonna change. I don't think we're disrespectful to the victims ever.
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  Speaker 1: I think we laugh about other things in this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but we try not to have anything unless there's just
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  Speaker 1: really something silly. Sometimes there's just really something silly. But
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, no, we mainly make jokes about
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  Speaker 1: like stuff going on with us that when we're doing
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  Speaker 1: reading the case, it reminds us of things going on.
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  Speaker 2: But that means you have no empathy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I have no empathy. I'm just a terrible bitch.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, Alice. Appreciate you. Appreciate the review, and
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  Speaker 1: I will work on the ad placement. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I'm going to work on it this time, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe next time I will so because it is late,
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  Speaker 1: just to hint, we are watching the what's her name, Cherry,
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  Speaker 2: She's like, no, Puppini. Hey was hungry.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, we are watching that. So that's just a hint
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  Speaker 1: and maybe something that might be discussed because you know,
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  Speaker 1: Alice was like something silly. Well, there's something silly, Miss
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  Speaker 1: Sherry Peppini. She's silly. So we're we are working on
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  Speaker 1: something for a patron But Stu does have his eye
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  Speaker 1: surgery coming up, so we may be not having episodes
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  Speaker 1: for the next two weeks. Probably not unless I get
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  Speaker 1: going and get something in before before Sunday, but that's
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  Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen, guys, So so might have a
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Alice.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, do not go ask Alice. That's a book, Stu,
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  Speaker 1: go ask Alice.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, all right, so let's go ahead and get into
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  Speaker 1: this week's episode. Out of Florida. Did I say that
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  Speaker 1: right out of Florida? I could not think of fact
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  Speaker 1: of the matter today?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 1: I just said it earlier. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: said it on the pod. I could not say think
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  Speaker 1: of fact. I was like matter of matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: fact of the matter. They're both they're both options, right, yes, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Adrian Robert was born January fourth, nineteen eighty three, to
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  Speaker 1: Mark and Dolores Robert in Brunswick, Maine. Now Adrian, Maine,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful state.
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  Speaker 2: Did like it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, We went to Bayhaibah.
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  Speaker 2: It was lovely, and we went to.
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  Speaker 1: What where's Stephen King's house? Was it Brunswick? No, someone knows.
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  Speaker 2: We popped by in front of it and yeah, we went.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like they're little like the red balloons from it.
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  Speaker 1: People had put them all out on the on the
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  Speaker 1: gates and everything. So very pretty, very pretty state.
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  Speaker 2: Maine.
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  Speaker 1: Now Adrian grew up in Maine with her parents and brother.
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  Speaker 1: She attended leave It or Levitt High School and graduated
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and one. She would later go on
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  Speaker 1: to attend the University of Maine in Augusta, and she
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  Speaker 1: would graduate in two thousand and five. Now she decided
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  Speaker 1: to go back to school. So she went in and
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  Speaker 1: decided to try something completely different, and she moves to St. Petersburg,
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  Speaker 1: Florida to attend USF. Now, while living in Florida, Adrian
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  Speaker 1: met Justin Pounderst.
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  Speaker 2: Stuart.
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  Speaker 1: Now, why can't you just be mature? Now? Justin Pounders.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, she's just.
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  Speaker 1: Even just in time or something. Uh. They hit it
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  Speaker 1: off immediately. Justin thought Adriane was beautiful and funny and
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  Speaker 1: they just had a really good time together. Now, Adriane
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  Speaker 1: and Justin were progressing their relationship and they decided they
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  Speaker 1: want to move in together. Well, Adrian was currently living
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  Speaker 1: in Clearwater, Florida, in a townhouse with her friend Jay.
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  Speaker 1: So she's gonna need to, you know, move out today, roommate.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So they Justin and Adrian were excited to take this
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  Speaker 1: next step in their relationship and they found a place.
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  Speaker 1: So they start packing, getting ready to move on out
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  Speaker 1: and move on in with each other. I'll do it, Stuart,
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  Speaker 1: I was just having flat too late for you to
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  Speaker 1: It's too late or is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is it ever too late? On July thirteenth, twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 2: Adrian and Jay, who is the roommate, Kara.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I wanted to just make sure everybody remembered.
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  Speaker 2: That decided to have a last evening together. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: is a farewell of all the time that they had
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  Speaker 2: spent together, lived together. Justin was fine with this because
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  Speaker 2: he needed to finish packing a few things and organizing
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  Speaker 2: for the big move the next day. At around three
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  Speaker 2: thirty four am, that's God, I can't even imagine being
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  Speaker 2: up that lie.
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  Speaker 1: I know, nine thirty three, I mean, and I'm like Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: I should already be asleep six hours by then.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I would like to be asleep myself. But at
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  Speaker 2: three thirty four am, which is late, well, we already
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  Speaker 2: did early.
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  Speaker 1: What is that probably in our neighborhood? Yeah, someone probably
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  Speaker 1: got shot. Get us out of.
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  Speaker 2: Here now, like Jay did. We should probably call nine one,
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  Speaker 2: but Jay calls nine to one one.
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  Speaker 1: This is what Alice is talking about, stew inappropriate Jos, No,
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  Speaker 1: but you skipped a whole section though, Jay. Around three
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  Speaker 1: thirty four am, Jay returns home and Adrian had headed
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  Speaker 1: home before him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Adrian had headed home before j When Jay gets
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  Speaker 2: there at three thirty four am, I think we've.
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  Speaker 1: Well established he arrived at three thirty four am Stewart.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to get back to the dot. He
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  Speaker 2: comes upon Adrian in lying on the bathroom floor and
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  Speaker 2: she's not moving. She's covered in blood. He calls nine
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  Speaker 2: to one one. He tells him that she's not breathing.
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  Speaker 2: The nine to one one operator walks in through CPR
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  Speaker 2: until help arrives, but it is too late. Adrian is
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  Speaker 2: pronounced dead at the scene. Police head to the scene
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  Speaker 2: to process the town home for evidence, and when they
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  Speaker 2: arrived they notice that there are no signs a forest entry.
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  Speaker 2: The townhome has two stories. Adriane is lying in the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom just off the stairs on the second floor. From
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  Speaker 2: the initial scene, they can tell that Adrian has a
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  Speaker 2: stab wound to the chest and that she has bled
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  Speaker 2: out all over the bathroom. There was a broken toilet
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  Speaker 2: seat and blood spatter in the bathtub as if there
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  Speaker 2: had been a struggle. Adrian was undressed and it appeared
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  Speaker 2: that a sexual assault had been the motive. There was
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  Speaker 2: blood prints. There were blood prints leading out of the
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  Speaker 2: room and they would most likely be from the killer,
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  Speaker 2: as Adrian would not have been able to leave the
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  Speaker 2: room after the stab wound. In her bedroom, there was
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  Speaker 2: also a very odd clue. A large circular portion of
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  Speaker 2: her bed sheet had been cut out, as if the purse.
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  Speaker 2: Someone had removed it to take the evidence of a
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  Speaker 2: possible rape. They collect whatever evidence they can from the
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  Speaker 2: bed and during her autopsy they find bruising on her
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  Speaker 2: arms and other bruising indicating rape.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when looking outside, they find Adriane's jeep was missing.
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  Speaker 1: So she's a jeep girls doew, so automatically makes her
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  Speaker 1: cooler than me other girls. I was a jeep girls,
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  Speaker 1: stew you were.
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  Speaker 2: I still have the jeep and now you're a mini.
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  Speaker 1: I know how the mighty have fallen. I still have
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  Speaker 1: the jeep though one day we'll reconnect. Now police immediately
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  Speaker 1: assume that probably the killer had taken the jeep during
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  Speaker 1: the getaway, because a lot of times that the killer
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  Speaker 1: or someone who does something robs someone, you know they're
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  Speaker 1: going to take their car. So they canvassed the neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: and they just start asking around to see if anybody
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  Speaker 1: saw anything suspicious or anything like that. They start by
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  Speaker 1: speaking to Jay and he walks them through their night
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  Speaker 1: and he said that they headed to a place called
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  Speaker 1: Diamond Dolls around ten thirty PM strip club. It is
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  Speaker 1: a strip club, so this was Police were initially like, oh,
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: you guys were going to a strip club, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know a lot of women that I
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  Speaker 1: have been to a strip club. But that's not something
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  Speaker 1: that I would have you now, Stuart, we've been to
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  Speaker 1: strip clubs together very infrequently, and it was in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, We've been to other things in New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: that were not good anyways, So you know, police were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this this little weird. But Jay actually he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is actually something we do all the time because
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  Speaker 1: it's within walking distance of their house. But anyways, I
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  Speaker 1: looked up Diamond Dolls is still a round stew and
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  Speaker 1: it was rated like number one gentlemen's club, like seven
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  Speaker 1: years in a row or something, So we.
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  Speaker 2: Need to go do some researchers what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: No, And it's been around since like nineteen eighty three,
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  Speaker 1: so Diamond Dolls is still going strong. So yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: but police with her going to this strip club, they
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  Speaker 1: are concerned about the possibly the different types of people
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  Speaker 1: Adrian might encounter. There could be plenty of suspects there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you are going to a mainly men or
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  Speaker 1: there mainly men that want to be with women, and
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  Speaker 1: now we have this sexually motivated crime, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: the suspect list could be big. Now. Jay says they
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  Speaker 1: were approached by a because they start asking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: did anything weird happen? Did you talk to anybody? And
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  Speaker 1: he does say that a man approached them while they
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  Speaker 1: were sitting at the bar, and the police asked him
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  Speaker 1: to describe and he said he was an African American.
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  Speaker 1: He had a goateee, he was medium billed and not
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  Speaker 1: too tall. He said that he'd never, you know, met
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  Speaker 1: this person before. He didn't even get the guy's name.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like they were Jay and Adrian were sitting
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  Speaker 1: at the bar and this guy, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone will just kind of come up and sit next
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  Speaker 1: next to you and just kind of start chatting you
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  Speaker 1: up or whatever at the bar, like getting the feelers
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  Speaker 1: out and stuff like that. So it seemed like that
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  Speaker 1: was more. He wasn't like joining their group or anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. So Adrian decided that she wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and leave since she was moving the next morning.
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  Speaker 1: She needed to get home, get a good night's sleep
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  Speaker 1: and everything like that. Well, Jay he wasn't ready to go,
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  Speaker 1: so he stays a little longer. Well, after Adrian leaves,
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  Speaker 1: the man sitting with them asked, you know, asked Jay
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  Speaker 1: where she went, and he told him, well, she had
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  Speaker 1: to go, and then that's when the man got up
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  Speaker 1: and left, and he Jay just thought he was hanging
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  Speaker 1: around him because he thought he might.
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  Speaker 2: Be able to, you know, get it out or something.
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  Speaker 1: No, he was probably hitting on or hoping to you know,
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  Speaker 1: hit on Adrian. And then she left and then he's like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she left, So then he's probably thinking, oh. The guy
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  Speaker 1: just is like, Okay, well, I'm not gonna sit around
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  Speaker 1: here with this this dude I don't know at this
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  Speaker 1: strip club. And so he didn't really think it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: anything suspicious or anything like that, but it was something
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  Speaker 1: that he you know, remembered happening. So police need to
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  Speaker 1: verify Jay's story, so they request footage from the Diamond
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  Speaker 1: Dolls establishment.
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  Speaker 2: STU. I need to request some footage from.
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  Speaker 1: There, and there was several that needed to go do
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  Speaker 1: undercover work to see.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, police are able to find her jeep pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: It's only about three or four blocks away. It was
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  Speaker 2: still running and the lights were on. The jeep was
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: parked near a carmac, so police head to the business
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  Speaker 2: to see if they caught anything on a camera. They
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  Speaker 2: have him playback everything starting with the evening of July thirteenth,
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  Speaker 2: and at around three point thirty eight am, they see
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  Speaker 2: a figure walking through the parking lot. It appears to
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  Speaker 2: be a black mail with long hair, a baseball hat,
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  Speaker 2: and he was wearing shorts. The person was also walking
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  Speaker 2: away from where the jeep was found. So this was
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  Speaker 2: their best lead so far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't. They didn't see him. Actually, this was
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  Speaker 1: just in the Carmacks parking lot, so it's just going across.
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  Speaker 1: They don't actually can't actually see the jeep in it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just the jeep was over there or where
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  Speaker 1: they would he would have left from.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and they see him walking away from that general area.
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  Speaker 2: Police didn't have any other camera angle showing him leaving
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  Speaker 2: the jeep. They didn't show him coming in, leaving anything.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know where he went next or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: They continue to ask around the neighborhood when they find
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  Speaker 2: someone who says that they saw Adrian and a black
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: male running down the road late at night. It seemed
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  Speaker 2: odd to them because Adrian was wearing a dress and
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  Speaker 2: carrying her shoes, so it's not like they were out
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  Speaker 2: there working out there we're doing a workout at four
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  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was in the middle of the
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  Speaker 1: night and she's running with her shoes in her hand
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  Speaker 1: to wear her dress. So now they've got the the
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  Speaker 1: the description of the person in the CarMax parking lot
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  Speaker 1: of the running down. That's all they have is just
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  Speaker 1: very general descriptions of people. So it's not their best
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  Speaker 1: bet right now is the one walking in the Carmacks
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  Speaker 1: parking lot, because why are you walking in a CarMax
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  Speaker 1: parking lot at three thirty eight am, you know, four hours? No,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, what are you doing? You're not looking for
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  Speaker 1: that mini van like we were. We've got That's where
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: we got our minivan was CarMax. Because when you have
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  Speaker 1: three small chill LDN and a car that really doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fit all three.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I went through this last week with the suburban
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  Speaker 2: and all.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying it's very difficult to go car searching.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And where we are is in a freaking you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: cultural desert, not economic desert, though it's.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Not a cultural desert. There's lots of things to do here.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: There's a theater down the road.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a cultural wasteland.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Well, that would be the same thing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we are out here in the middle of nowhere,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: so everything is limited and everything's more expensive because it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: takes so long to get anything else. So any of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the good cars, the good deals are gone.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like living in Hawaiian.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like living in Hawaii.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Stud hard to get things and they're more expensive.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's just a little bit different views, you know,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Anyway, so we used CarMax because
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: they'll ship if it's within a certain distance, they'll ship
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a car from another CarMax and you can go test
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: drive it. Now. Now, don't get any ideas though we
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: didn't have a CarMax here though, we're not that upit.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Y up.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: We had to drive an hour up to Lubbock, hour
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and a half up to Lubbock, which does have a CarMax.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And then so they shipped this car from Dallas, Houston, Houston,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: they shifted up there. I think, No, it was Dallas.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: They shipped it from Dallas, which is five hours away. Yeah,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: they shipped it here, it arrived, we drove went up there,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and then we had to make a decision if we
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: wanted it, and we bought it. That's that, and then
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it got a hell damage a month or a week
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: or two late.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: You told the exact same story last up.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I was talking about how I was
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: talking about the differences between the mini vans. This is
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: how we got the Mini van and in the CarMax.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't mention CarMax last week because we
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: didn't have a CarMax in the episode. We had a Walmart. Okay,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I talked about a Walmart. You're wrong, But okay, whatever.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: The reviews will tell us, all sure.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Alice will let us.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Know, because God knows you won't go back and listen
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: to either.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I can't do that to myself, Stuart, I don't. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: don't have a high enough self esteem for that. All right,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So please get the video footage from Diamond Dolls. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: they were able to verify that. Adrian and Jay arrived
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: at ten thirty pm. Like Jay said, you know, everything's
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the up and up. They didn't really suspect Jay, you know,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: he wasn't. On the of course they had to question him,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: but he wasn't. Nothing he did made them think that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he was, you know, the guy, so they are also
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: able to verify that. So whenever they went into the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: strip club, they were all happy, laughing like everything was great,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and they were also able to verify that. He left
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: around three am alone. Soft, No, he left alone. No, Stuart, don't,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: don't try to correct me, like you know this more
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: than I do. There's our neighbors and they're freaking god.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Why why are they like this?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, So he leaves at three am to walk home
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and they see him leaving on camera by himself. Now
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: they rewind back in around one thirty eight eight am,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they see Adrian leave the club. She has but she
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: has her shoes on because you know, the person said
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: they saw her running holding her shoes. Well, in this one,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: she has her shoes on and she's walking out alone.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Doesn't seem rushed, doesn't seem fearful, just very relaxed, leaving
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: out of the establishment. Stew Why do I feel like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: if it's if it's a strip clube, bunny, then call
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it an establishment.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Let's say the club the clurb in a clurb.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: We all, fam, you still don't know what that is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I said it the clurb, We all.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Fam, I have no clue. Just moving, are you racist?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Shut up and read on?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, So just four seconds, like literally right after she
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: leaves the the establishment, just four seconds later, they see
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a man leave behind Adrian and he starts running after her.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Because they got it. They got a door camera that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: comes in and then they got the one out in
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the parking lot, so they see him approach her in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that parking lot. He hands her like a black sweater
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: or shawl or something that she had left behind, and
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: they converse a little bit. And so this is completely normal.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Like you they're thinking, Okay, she left her sweater, he's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: running it out to her, so normally you would think.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So the next thing you would expect was he goes
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: back into the establishment, the establishment, and she continues on
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: her way. However, they both turn in the direction of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: her town home and they start walking. So they get
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: with Jay and they show him this footage and they
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: do confirm with him that the man following her in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the parking lot was the man sitting with them at
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the establishment at the bar. Now, however, they compare the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: video footage of the man in the CarMax parking lot,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and it's not the same man. This is that was
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: just some random guy that almost got in trouble because
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: he's walking in a CarMax. I mean that, I mean
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I could see how like that would be their number
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: one suspect. So if they didn't have this video footage,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that poor man would have had his like stuff blasted
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: all over there.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, would have been flipped upside down. So I figured
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: out it was not like I'm.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Never walking in a CarMax party at three point thirty
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in the morning. You know what they say, only hospital
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: gels and legs are open past you just go home.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Why would you go home if there's a hospital open?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: All right, So the man in the CarMax parking lot
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: is eliminated as a suspect, and the person who moved
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: her jeep must have walked in a different direction, did
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: not walk towards the CarMax, must have headed off where
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: there weren't any cameras.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Police received the forensics from the town home and they
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: found DNA on the sheets near where it was cut
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: out on Adrian's hands and on her body.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the person who cut out the killer who cut
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: out the the you know portion of the sheets as
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: an idiot, like they were.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Going to get why would you cut the sheet and
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: just take taking the whole thing off?
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I know, it was just like stupid idiot.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: They run the DNA through the data base and they
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: wait for results. Meanwhile, they continue to track down the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: movements of the man that night. He arrived at the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: club at around five forty five, and they were able
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to get a pretty good video of his face.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because this was now during at that time, it
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: was daylight hours, they had to go back pretty far
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: because I mean that's pretty early. I feel like to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: be at the establishment stew five.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: It all depends.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: They're not even dancing at that time, are they?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, They're dancing at lunchtime. Did I tell
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you about but she don't want to be there for
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the lunch crew? Did I tell you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: About the time that our car broke down and that
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: we had to go into a strip club to get
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a help. And I was a little I was a
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: little girl.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you did.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: We had gone to a softball tournament and our car
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: broke down and the only thing close by was the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Strip club, but it was daytime hours and they only
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: operated at night, so it was closed. But I remember
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the guy he let he you know, it was like
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: my dad and my mommy. You know, they're like super
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: super religious, my dad especially anyway, so we go in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: here and they were like, oh, yeah, you guys could
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: come around this way. And then I remember him going
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: in the room that they had us in and there
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: was like pictures of naked women. So it's like turn
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: her around the pictures because you know, for me being
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: in there was like I mean I was probably like
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: ten or eleven or something like that. I still remember
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. And then the other time we ran
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: into a sketchy situation was, uh so my grandpa worked
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: for the Ford glass Plant, so like the Ford vehicles,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and he used to make glass. He worked at the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: glass plant. He was like really good at making glass,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and so he the company Ford would give him these
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: like reward points, and so we got we were we
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: were pretty broke growing up, like we we we was
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: broke sto okay anyway, so he had all these points
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: to go to this like super fancy hotel in New Orleans,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like the I can't the Continental or something like that
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: super fancy hotel. So here we are, you know, the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hillbillies rolling up in our on our old blue suburban.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: My mom of course packed the cooler, so we're bringing
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the cooler up. There's like doormen and everything like this
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: is a fancy They're like, would you like would you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: like valet parking? No?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: No, no no.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: So we're rolling up and it's like that that I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: still remember. The steps were like red and they were
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like the felt or felt not velvet or whatever. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we're rolling up in our little igle cooler with our stuff. Anyways,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that's not the point. That's we can go on line.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why you don't walk
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: like watching the bevery Hillbilly is when it seems like
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you lived that life. Get some pie some steve. Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: So anyways, the whole point was this. So we went
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to New Orleans. So again my parents were my dad
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: was super religious, my mom you know Christian everything that
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: we go walk down Bourbon Street and my parents didn't
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: really understand I guess like Bourbon Street and so we
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: were walking by and we were my brothers were like looking,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: we were looking at this like fish tank or whatever,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and my mom's like, oh cool, it's like a fish tank.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And then this lady like swims by and she's topless,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: she's a topless mermaid, you know, at the and they're like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: oh god it. So we had to get off three. Anyways,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So those were my two young interactions with strip clubs.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think I had anymore until you were all
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: back to New Orleans.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Anyways, okay, so where.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Where was I that he was there at the strip
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: club them?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Because you said it wasn't open at that time, and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I was trying to tell you that some of them
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: are closed at that time.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it could have been opened at that time. Okay, anyway,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: been opened at lunch. They have a lot of I.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Feel like they probably closed between like two and two
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and six or whatever, like some restaurants, you know, to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: clean up. Yeah. Ew the Diamond Dolls. I did look
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: at their website. They do have those rooms, yeah, for
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: private They said contact them for a private thing, but
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: There is no contact allowed in the in the champagne room.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were not accepting their form that they were
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: using though to accept applications had been had reached the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: max quota and they hadn't reset it. So I don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: know if they're not looking for girls right now or
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Call to find out, all right, So
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: they were able to find him at five forty five, again,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: pretty good video of him coming in. Was it you were?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Are you telling this part?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Or was I you were? No? You were this? Was you?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, finish, finish up, but not like in the.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And then that somebody's gonna have to since.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, finish, finish, finish.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: They also found out that he had arrived by cab,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: which would allow them to identify him. Through the cab company,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: they were able to get his phone number and track
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it back to a Thomas Frederick. They pull his ID
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and it looks like the person in the video. He
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is not, however, in the database for DNA. So now
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: they're going to have to get a sample the old
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: fashioned way, some old dumb shoe detective work.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, So they begin surveillance of Thomas and are waiting
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to get like a cigarette butt or a cup he
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: drinks from. But they need to be on the slide
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because they really have nothing on him. I mean, he
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: was the last one seen with her from the video footage.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But other than that, you we don't know anything.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: No, you can't. You can't go pick him up and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: spook him because then he might leave, ye, So you got.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: To get the You gotta do this. So this took
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a while, but they were finally able to get a
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: cigarette butt that he threw on the ground. They run
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the DNA sample of Thomas against the DNA profile from
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Adrian's apartment. Now the DNA profile Stue is a match
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: stop it, so they are now able to make an
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: arrest for Adrian's murder. Now Thomas was confronted, so they
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: bring him in. He is confronted with the picture of Adrian,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and police you know, asked him about their interactions that night,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and he said that she bought him some drinks, which
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Jay did not mention that at all, so they know
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he's like lying. Yeah, he said they dance, which Jay
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: did not say. He was just like a random guy
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: at the bar, like this was not some big you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: them getting to know and be like, wow, we're going
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to be friends from now on. He said, they dance
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and then she bought him some more drinks and then
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: he left the club and went to work. And they're like,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, you just left the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: club and went straight to work after being out all
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: night and he drinking. Yeah, and he said, I think
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he worked in construction.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: You can. You can go to work drunk and in construction.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I used to work for the state or not
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this state, another state for and that we had some
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: so we had some sketch some some.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: People that like to imbibe their office. But they weren't
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: out there actually doing dangerous work, were they.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, Oh Jesus, oh, let me tell you about the time.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: The one guy was like, because we would, they would
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: just the state Louisiana would just contract all this stuff out.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So it was like the lowest bidder type situations, you know.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And we had this one guy and he was so stupid.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I caught him. He was like supposed to be spray
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: painting the like the sidewalk orange for like marking it
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: for construction or whatever, and he had the paint cander
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in the wrong way and I saw him. I caught him.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I saw him, and he was actually spraying the car.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: It was a future roundabout and he's just.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Just just a bright orange line.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Across this white car.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, anyways, we used to. I used to go
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to lunch with them sometimes and we'd always go to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: they always would go to, uh, the Tilted Kilt, So
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I'd go with them there.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Well they got some good food there.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they at least had some good food. It did
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: go out of business though, Okay, well the Tilted Killed
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: in Lafayette.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: No, that's still in business.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: No it's not.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It was, No, it's not.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: It was the Tilted Kilt.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No, you're thinking of the Twin Peaks.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Tilted Kilt naturally did not have good food, and the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: girls weren't that great either, So I mean it was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a lose lose situation.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I think of that Twin Peaks. They got that board, yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: lumberjack board or what I call it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Twin Peaks is pretty good.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tilted Kill all right, terrible.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So so those were my construction days. Like to know
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: why more about my work history, just like Thomas yep.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Uh So he's like, yeah, I go, I go to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: work straight from the club all the time. And I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: actually believe him. I probably he probably does go into work,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: you know, hungover and stuff like that, or still slightly
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: slightly drunk. So this is when they know he's lying.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So they show him the security footage from that night
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and he said that he did walk so he's changed.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: He's like, okay, okay, I did walk out with her,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: but after they went around the corner off the camera,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: they of course went separate ways, you know, they did
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: not of course, yes, So they asked if he had
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: been to her house and he says that he So
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he's like, okay, actually, I did go to our house.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So as they're confronting him, he's like, okay, yeah, I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: did do that. Yeah, we actually didn't just part at
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the corner, and so he says, yeah, I did go
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to our house. But he just doesn't remember, he said,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: when he drinks, he just doesn't know. He just doesn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: know what he does. And so they tell him that
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: someone saw him running after her, and he says that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: they were just running together, so casual, you know. They
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: finally tell him that they know he killed her and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that they have his DNA and they know what happened,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and so he says, so he's like, okay, I need
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to come up with the story for this. So he
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: says that he went to her apartment. She threw up, okay,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and then they had sex wow, and then all hell
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: broke loose, he said. So he said that she went
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and got a knife and then swung at him, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that's when he got defensive and plunged the knife into her.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So that's what happened. So he was on the defense.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: This was her fault.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Well that's what it sounds like according to his story.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So he basically he just kept getting caught in
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: lies and as they confronted him, he just was trying
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to change the story on the spot. And this is
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: where he landed that she tried to attack him.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: So she threw up, They had consensual sex, and then
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: they got in a knife.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Fight and he stabbed her. Yeah that's what he's that's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: what he's going to go with.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: The jury's really going to love her in this one. Yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: police charge him with first degree murder, and in twenty
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: fourteen he stands trial. The prosecution believes that he followed
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: her home and she tried to run ahead.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably, I think she They think she.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Like chatted him up for a little while.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: But it was like, you know, one of those things
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: like maybef I'm he's you know, because it was at
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that point where she either had to make the decision
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to keep walking home or go back into the club
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: with the establishments do and go find Jay. And unfortunately,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: she maybe just thought he was just going to be
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: you know, she would have never thought he would take
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: go to this level. So she probably thought, oh, he's
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: just trying to flirsh me. I'll just tell him, you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: not right now, and he'll leave me alone. And then
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: it slowly real she probably realized, like, this is not
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: he's not leaving me alone. I should have went back
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: into that, went back in there and got Jay.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: He did make it into her home, and police believe
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: that she may have tried to be nice to him
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to see if he would leave.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because at this point they're just guessing, but they
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: do know there was no forced entry, so they're not
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: really sure what happened, but they know she wasn't come.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: They know there was no consensual sex or anything like that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It was she was maybe just let him in her
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: house because maybe he might have been closed and forced
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: his way in. They just don't know.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: They believe that he grabbed a knife, forced himself upon
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: her in the bedroom, and then he makes her go
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to the bathroom to get cleaned up so that there's
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: no DNA evidence basically.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he did cut the sheet so that they're
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: thinking that was his, that he was reasoning behind all.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Manning this, and something definitely takes a turn for the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: worse in the bathroom because he stabs her in there.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he was going to have her
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: get cleaned up and stab her regardless, or something else
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: happened that made him stab her. He then takes her vehicle,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: parks it out by the CarMax, and flees. He is
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: found guilty of first degree murder and one count of
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: grand theft auto.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: They did get him on the grand theft autos too.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you got to add them yours if you can.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice when they add him consecutively and
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: not concurrently. Yeah, it's like, if you're going to add
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: it concurrently, why would you even charge him with the
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: grand theft auto.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: They were unable to get him on the count of
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: sexual battery due to lack of evidence. He was sentenced
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: to life without parole.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what the lack of evidence. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's because he did have her cleanup
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: or what was going on. But they were able to
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: at least get him in with life without parole. So
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: he's he's gone forever. He is in Florida, so he
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: will not be getting out. They said, when you get
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: life without parole there, it's life without parol, life without parole.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the state that is not No federal whatever
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: is going to get you off on that.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, stud that is our case for this week.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Again, we may not be around for the next two weeks,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: so blame, Stew.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Blame, that's what everybody always does.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, we are working on something for Patreon, I promise.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And then Stew, do you have a y'all need Jesus
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: of course not. Yes, this is what Alice said we
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: should be doing. They said that we should be doing
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: stories about maybe people tackling alligators or something. But we
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: do that as well. But we just like to we
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: just like to keep it light. You know, it's a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: heavy subject. Okay, it's a heavy subject. It can be, yes,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: but yes, murder can be a heavy subject.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Stu.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: That's why we don't do anything about children. I'm just
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: not going to do it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen, you know, although you didn't.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: You didn't always have that rule.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't always have that rule, but now that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I have children, No, well, I've just been like that,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: or do you have your y'all need Jesus? Or do
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: you need it to kill some time? Probably bad word?
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I have phrasing way to go.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have it ready? Or no? No? Okay? Anyway,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So I've been like, so I'm on the ticker talks
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and I've just been down a rabbit hole
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: with that. I don't know if anyone else saw that
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the three year old that drowned that the girl has
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: like millions of followers on TikTok anyways. So it's just
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: been like depressing, you know, because we have almost our
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: son will be three years old next month, and then
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: we have a four year old, and then we have
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a fifteen month old, and then the story about the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: daycare with the three year old is traumatizing. I know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it's just like super depressing. So this is why we
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: don't do anything about children, because it's just like so
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: depressing to think about down I know, is this somber
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: enough for you, Alice? Anyway? So yeah, I've been on
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the and then like this July thirteenth date, I watched
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: another this. So because of the three year old that
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: drowned in the pool, there's been a lot of talk
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: about pool safety because that's actually the number one accidental
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: way that children one to four die is drowning. And
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: so I've just been like, we have a pool, and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: so immediately when we moved in, there was nothing. There
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: was no barrier between like if they were to get
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: out the door. So that's why we immediately built the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: screened in porch so that if they ever got out
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: the back door, there'd be another barrier. And then Stu
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: is now installing another barrier because I'm paranoid now they're.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: The next one.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we just want to make sure that there's
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: three barriers in place to get the pool. They're also
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: going to swim lessons. They we have alarms. We have
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a different alarm on the back door so that if
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it opens, were there. We put the extra lock on
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the top. And then Stu's dad is coming to stay
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: while he's because he has when he has the eye surgery,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he can't actually pick up anything over ten pounds. Well,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the baby weighs twenty pounds, So his dad's coming to
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: stay with us, so that because it's for two weeks,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: he can't pick anything up. So his Dad's going to say, Well,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: then I'm paranoid because most of the time I read
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: these stories, it's like the grandparents or someone that's not
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: familiar with like that's like super vigilant on the pool
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: comes out and leaves a door. So now Stu's installing
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: a lock with a pass code that you literally cannot
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: go out past the screened in porch unless you have
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the code, and only myself and him will have the code.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like paranoid as I should be, Stu,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: as I should be.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, you got to be on your toes.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you got to be their little tricky little things.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: They're always trying.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: To get you every damn day. They're always trying to
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: find a new inventive wedding the emergency room.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, so did you find the y'all need Jesus.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: To I've had one for days.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, well do you have it pulled up? Because I'm
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: still like just trying.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: To depress everybody about pool safety. You're depressing everybody, including me.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to what if someone hasn't heard these things,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: so they say, some of the things you should do
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: is obviously have a barrier to the pool. You don't
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: shouldn't just have your uh you know, you can't just
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: have like your back door and be like, oh, yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: we have a dead bolt, it's fine or whatever. No,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you need to have a second barrier, whether it be
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: a fence around the pool or something like. We built
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the screened in port and then there's a second barrier.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: We're putting a third barrier. And by no means am
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I saying that we're perfect or whatever, you know, But
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying what perfect. I'm just saying we do.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: We added the additional alarm on the back door, the
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: additional lock that's higher up, the additional padlock that's going
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to go on the screened in porch for whenever we
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: have guests over, so they don't go out there and
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: accidentally leave something open. They're in swim lessons. They I've
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I've terrified our four year old about the pool, though she's.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Like, well, you terrified about storms too. That's why I
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: had to go on there for the storm. I know.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like I have to.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a real I'm a worry wartz. I'm like, I'm
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't sugarcoat the things I tell them.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: If you're if you fall in the pool and we're
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: not here and you don't have any your any floaties
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: or anything on like that, you are going to sink
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to the bottom and you're going to die. And like,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's harsh, but she is terrified
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of going into the pool. And yes, I made the
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: mistake of the stupid I didn't realize that the the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: you know, they say now the puddle jumpers are a mistake.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So we're getting out of those. So we've been practicing swimming.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: But I do make sure and take them off it
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: so they realize that if they do not have them on,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: they are going to sink to the bottom of the pool.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I did not let them sink to the bottom. I'm
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: just saying that they're aware, and the four year old's
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: definitely aware. I've probably been a little too harsh about
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the whole situation, but I want her to be taken seriously,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: all right, So I've dug myself enough holes. I'm sure
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: people will be writing me tips and you're telling me
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. People will probably be writing and tell
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: me how terrible a mother I am because I let
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: them use the puddle jumpers. I will not make the
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: miss I already told you the baby is not doing
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: anything like that because I made that mistake with those two.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: And now they want them all the time. So now
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: we've had to We're having to get them comfortable without them. Yes,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: but they're going to swim lessons, so somebody else should
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: be able to They listened so much better to other people. Yes,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: all right, send your hate mil to stew.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yes please, I need more YEP coming to us from
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: kla Q. The Q Rocks el Paso's best rock. Not Florida,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: not Florida. Is this the Dumbest Criminal in Texas? This
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: is by dub A G.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Definitely not Florida, published.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: May nine, twenty five. The Dumbest Criminal in Texas Award
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five may have already been awarded. If
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: this guy isn't the dumbest one, he's the absolute unluckiest one.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not a master criminal or anything, but like most
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Texas residents with a taste for the I don't know
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: what the mada is. I keep my eyes open and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I can spot unmarked police car from a mile away. Seriously,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: they are generally not that hard to spot if you
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: know what to look for.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: This is what the guy is writing in his article, clearly.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Where he's working for El Paso.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and thought I thought Midland was bad. I really
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: don't want to be. I guess if you're in al Paso.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Though you're on IE to ten, you can make a
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: quick getaway.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: East or west, you're still out in the middle of BFE. Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Clearly this guy didn't know what to look for. Undercover
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: cops in Lake Way, Texas, were on a steakout hoping
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: to catch a car thief. Cameras with automated license plate
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: recognition abilities noted a stolen car had been abandoned near
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: downtown Austin. I don't know where we get Austin, and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: they'l passo from and the popo were, oh because the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: radio stations and i'll passo car. Thief is in Austin.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I guess Lakeway's in Austin, I guess. And the popo
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: were trying to find the thief. How did the police
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: catch the thief? They found him or shall we say
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: he found them? When he tried to steal their unmarked
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: police car, not realizing that it was a cop car
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and also filled with cops. No less, he made an
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: ill fated attempt to jack the car. Realizing is a mistake,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: he tried to make a run for it, but that
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: didn't go well. The police caught him, and you'll love
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: this Carol, They discovered that he had another stolen car
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: in his possession at the time that they busted him.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: So guy in a in a stolen well because the
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: car thiefs in a stolen car going to uh steal
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: another car which happened to be an unmarked police car
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: full of cops.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were really gonna say something that
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: really pertained to me, Like he had a sewing machine
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: in the backseat or.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Something, and there was a brand new Singer sewing machine
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: in the in the.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Trophy stolen fils.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, this story goes on. It says other stupid
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Texas criminals.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Let's save those for a rainy days too. I got
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to get to ba.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Well, these are like two sentences. A Texas bank robber
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: honored the teller's request to show his ID before she
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: could give him any Okay, tad ah Way tad insult
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: the injury. He was trying to escape and he grabbed
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: a woman holding a baby to he uses a high
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: stitch and she kicked his ass.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: While holding the baby.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: While holding the bit. A thief in Houston left his
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: cell phone and a traffic ticket with his name on
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: it at the scene of a robbery he had just committed.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: So there's plenty of stupid criminals out there. Yes, my
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: usual little honey hole didn't have anything news where I
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: get all my dumb criminal news. That didn't have it
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: sounds gross, uh huh, kind of like a honeypot.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Honey pot, what is that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Poo bear?
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: No, poo bear, I got a bee. Well that's what
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: they call the female spies, huh, intelligence gathering officers who
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: happened to be female from let say, in the Cold War,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the Kremlin, they would send these female spies to seduce, oh,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to get information.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure they're.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Still doing that. Honey pots. They're Yes, they do, and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: they're still called honeypots.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And the China sends them, yeah, other foreign adversaries. Yes,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: we're still using the age old trick, which is a
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: good looking woman.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, the US government used to send me to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: countries together information and such the manner as.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't think so what all right? Well okay,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: so on that note, we're done.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, that is terrible. Why are you
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: just rambling.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Because I'm tired. It's ten twenty at night. I understand
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: that that's not that late, but it is for me,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go to sleep. Actually I'm not.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I got to put this out because I told everybody
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: i'd get it out by tonight. So here we are.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Look at that. We're early tonight though we are usually
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: like it's eleven fifty nine when you're getting it out.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, so Patreon check us out. Thank you everybody.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I would also like to say that Alicis said. Alice
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: said that we were to make a to make a buck?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Is you wanted to make.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Yes? Why do you even tell me about I don't
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: even look at the reviews until I forgot all about it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: You mentioned him anyway, She said that we were just
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: trying to make a buck. Let me tell you, Alice,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: ain't many bucks have been a making.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, we are trying to make a buck.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just just anyways, Instagram, Facebook, and then write us
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: a review five stars. Only somehow some.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: People Alice missed that memo.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: And I guess we will see you next time. By everyone,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: say bye, ste.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: It's bad. I'm superstitios. By nothing else. It's working, and
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: my hand is green
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: And hurting at our sickos