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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover how instant gratification and social media can reshape attitudes toward work, ownership, and success.
- 0:07Understand why building wealth requires patience and delayed gratification.
- 0:10Explore how short-term thinking can undermine financial security and uncover why hard work and personal responsibility remain essential for long-term independence.
- 0:26You've seen, I mean, I think that if you look at some of the CEOs of major tech companies, you see people that come from other parts of the world that move to the U.S. that take up these positions again, which is great.
- 0:39But you do have to have a culture of entrepreneurship, of hardworking, of not being afraid to build things and fail.
- 0:49And I think that we're moving so far from...
- 0:55people being willing to do uncomfortable work that we're not even talking about, like you said, entrepreneurship.
- 1:02We're just talking about people working a nine to five, Monday to Friday job.
- 1:06Because if you're gonna be a successful entrepreneur, like I came from a nine to five environment and I worked hard there, then I realized that
- 1:16I wasn't moving fast enough and my career wasn't progressing as quick as I wanted to, so then I'm going to take that into my own hands.
- 1:22And instead of working 9 to 5 Monday to Friday, I'm working 24-7, 365, but at least I can now move at my own pace.
- 1:29But the nine-to-five was, because I didn't have entrepreneurial parents, the nine-to-five was this little bit of like an incubation for me as a professional to then say, okay, this is great, but I want to go farther.
- 1:43If I had never even had the exposure to the nine-to-five or if I was –
- 1:47I see some people traveling all over the world and working in the gig economy.
- 1:51Again, there's nothing inherently wrong with that.
- 1:54But if a culture promotes that and social media promotes lifestyle and all that stuff,
- 2:02I think that, again, another component that you didn't mention is we look on social, we think other people's lives are so great, and how can they work two hours a week and make a million dollars a year?
- 2:16Well, that's not reality.
- 2:18But social media is a megaphone, and it broadcasts this reality, and people assume it's the reality, so then they try and architect their lives like that.
- 2:26And amongst all the other things you mentioned, it's just a very...
- 2:31We're in a dangerous place, I think, because there's so much influence telling us how we should live or what hard work should be or shouldn't be.
- 2:40And I think that it's, I think we're kind of messing up the minds of a younger generation as to what life can look like.
- 2:47Well, I agree with that, and I think you see it in another context.
- 2:53It used to be people's dream was own your own home.
- 2:58That was a big, big dream.
- 3:01Get married, have a kid, own your own home was part of the cultural scene.
- 3:08Now, people are not so interested in owning things
- 3:13They seem to settle for having the use of things.
- 3:18There's even an industry now where people are renting their clothes rather than buying.
- 3:27I mean, what could be more weird and what could be more inefficient than renting your clothes?
- 3:35Because you know the guy renting them to you is making a high rate of returns.
- 3:41Well, where is his rate of return coming from?
- 3:44It's coming from you because you're such a fool.
- 3:48You won't even want to front end the price of your clothing.
- 3:53And so I think it's gotten to a very, very extreme point.
- 4:00There's nothing wrong with wanting to own things.
- 4:03And for most families, owning the home was central to their ability to develop some semblance of wealth, because homes tend to appreciate over time.
- 4:18My father had a pretty good saying, even though he was not wealthy.
- 4:23He said, I know a lot of people have gotten rich collecting rent.
- 4:28I don't know anybody who got rich paying rent.
- 4:32And that's a philosophy that the people don't seem to have.
- 4:38Everything is measured in terms of monthly payment, not am I earning something, not am I getting somewhere, not am I getting ahead.
- 4:49It's a whole attitudinal thing that, as you point out, is very, very dangerous.
- 4:57You know what I'm actually, I'm really concerned because it seems to be compounded with short-sightedness.
- 5:04What will happen is people will make enough money to rent their whole life.
- 5:10And then what happens is...
- 5:12When you can't work anymore or when you have some – when you get sick or when you're just of old age, you can't put in those hours or the cognitive performance just isn't there or the physical performance isn't there.
- 5:26I mean, we haven't really –
- 5:28seen that generation get to that age yet.
- 5:32And that's going to be scary unless something is done because the generation that is of the age that can no longer work, most of them will have pensions or they'll have some sort, or they came from the mentality of, I want to buy my house.
- 5:45I want to invest.
- 5:48Yeah, it's very scary.
- 5:50The people that are 70, 80, 90 now did not rent their clothes.
- 5:58when they were growing up.
- 6:00Well, a sociologist that I met at a cocktail party had an interesting encapsulation of that.
- 6:08He said one of the real problems of the younger generation is the inability to postpone immediate gratification.
- 6:19That's what leads to they want everything quick, easy, now, very accessible.
- 6:26The idea of saving up to buy a home is quite different from that.
- 6:31That generally, especially for younger people, used to mean some postponement of immediate gratification because you put away a little money, put away a little money.
- 6:44And then you got to do something by way of a home with it.
- 6:50But now they're happy to rent the house, happy to rent a car when they need it.
- 6:55happy to rent even their clothes.
- 6:58And it's a dead-end street because what they're doing is raising their current cost of living to the point where they're not going to be able, as you point out, to have something to take care of them later on.
- 7:15And that, in turn, is important.
- 7:19producing and encouraging a very unfortunate relationship between the population and government.
- 7:28Remember the old communist manifesto, the way to make socialism permanent is first of all get to where a majority of the adult population pays no tax.
- 7:41Well we're just about there.
- 7:44Second is,
- 7:45get to the point where a majority of the adult population
- 7:49depends on government for its livelihood.
- 7:53That's where we're starting to head with all these programs.
- 7:57And once we get through that second thing, if we do, unfortunately, and most people pay no tax and are dependent on government, forget it.
- 8:09Society as we've known it, our culture as we've known it, and tragically, our economy as we've known it will be no more.
- 8:20Talk to me about, I want to talk about your transition to public service, but can you just explain that point?
- 8:29Because I understand being dependent on government, but can you explain the pay no tax point?
- 8:37Well, it is arithmetically true that almost half of adult Americans do not pay any tax because they have all these tax credits in refund.
- 8:51When the government says, I'm going to give you a tax credit for having a child, let's say, now that may be a worthwhile idea to help people have children.
- 9:04But
- 9:05What it works out to in reality is if you don't have enough income that you're really paying tax, you get that money directly.
- 9:17So instead of being what it's presented as, which is just a tax credit, it's not.
- 9:23It's an actual gift to the people who don't have taxable income.
- 9:29Yeah.
- 9:30And in some cases, even if they do, it's small.
- 9:33And again, it becomes a cash payment rather than a tax credit.
- 9:40So it encourages the wrong behavior, basically.
- 9:43Yes, yes.
- 9:45And I'm not opposed to childcare.
- 9:48I'm not opposed to people having families.
- 9:50Obviously, those are important.
- 9:53But when you create those two things, nobody pays tax and people are dependent on government, now you've changed the whole society.
- 10:06And it's a very, very slippery slope.
- 10:10because the theory of it is that somehow the rest of society can afford not only to maintain themselves, but pay the bills to government to maintain the half that aren't working, that aren't productive.
- 10:28Well, that's a very different world from the world that we used to have.