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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the episode of Inverted Footballers, where we bring
- 0:03Speaker 1: the beautiful game to you in America. I am your host,
- 0:06Speaker 1: Joshua Garcia, and actually we have a surprise on this one.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Last one, we got introduced to Ryan, the other host.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Now we're getting introduced to another host. It just hasn't
- 0:15Speaker 1: worked out where all of our schedules align to where
- 0:17Speaker 1: we can all get on a podcast together.
- 0:19Speaker 2: But I bring you none other than, you know what,
- 0:22Speaker 2: introduce yourself.
- 0:23Speaker 1: You can introduce yourself and give us a little bit
- 0:24Speaker 1: of background into your your soccer love, your soccer history,
- 0:28Speaker 1: or your football history.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Football history, yes, sir. My name is Austin. I'm a
- 0:33Speaker 3: Real Madrid fan.
- 0:34Speaker 4: I've always been a Real Madrid fan ever since 2012,
- 0:37Speaker 4: specifically that year.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I remember going into, it was the second grade. I
- 0:42Speaker 3: remember seeing one of my buddy, longtime buddies now. He
- 0:45Speaker 3: was wearing a Real Madrid jersey, and he was very
- 0:48Speaker 3: great at soccer.
- 0:49Speaker 4: And then he introduced me to players like Cristiano Ronaldo,
- 0:53Speaker 4: who was with them at the time.
- 0:54Speaker 3: That's where the love just grew. And over the years,
- 0:56Speaker 3: I've been a big fan of them, following them.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Seeing them just win championships, win trophies, and obviously becoming
- 1:05Speaker 4: a fan of Cristiano Ronaldo.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Seeing him also excel in football. what he does best.
- 1:11Speaker 4: It can be arguably debated, but me specifically, I say
- 1:14Speaker 4: he's the GOAT. That's a debate for another time. My
- 1:16Speaker 4: love's just been there.
- 1:18Speaker 3: I used to play soccer back in junior high.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Just wasn't really fit enough to make it into the
- 1:24Speaker 4: high school level, but I just was a fan of
- 1:26Speaker 4: the game. I watched it ever since I was a kid,
- 1:28Speaker 4: like I said, growing up. So, yeah, that's just where
- 1:30Speaker 4: my love started and where it's grown up to now.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all can debate Messi, y'all can debate Ronaldo, but
- 1:37Speaker 1: I'll debate Bukayo Saka as the GOAT.
- 1:39Speaker 2: But before we get into that, we can move on
- 1:41Speaker 2: a little bit. Or Zlatan. They're two totally different people.
- 1:44Speaker 3: It makes no sense.
- 1:46Speaker 1: But, well, let's get a little bit of opinions from
- 1:48Speaker 1: you regarding your favorite team, Real Madrid. We saw them
- 1:52Speaker 1: get a change of managers with Jose Mourinho coming in.
- 1:55Speaker 1: We saw some saga in the summer with Benítez Jr.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Is he going to come to my squad, the Arsenal?
- 2:00Speaker 1: Or is he going to stay in Real Madrid? He
- 2:03Speaker 1: ultimately signed a big contract to stay in Real Madrid.
- 2:05Speaker 1: But it's been a little shaky from... from Vinicius Jr.,
- 2:08Speaker 1: even seeing him get benched.
- 2:10Speaker 2: He's going to miss the next four games in La
- 2:12Speaker 2: Liga play.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Indrick came in for him and a couple others in
- 2:16Speaker 1: that last matchup versus Roma, and they really looked better
- 2:19Speaker 1: when he came off the pitch in that one. So
- 2:21Speaker 1: what are your opinions regarding Jose Mourinho's start so far?
- 2:25Speaker 1: Because it's been a little shaky, especially with Atletico Madrid
- 2:29Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and then even the Vinicius Jr.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Situation.
- 2:34Speaker 4: Yes, first off, the Jose Mourinho Real Madrid is on
- 2:38Speaker 4: their fourth manager in the past three seasons. We started
- 2:41Speaker 4: with Carlos Ancelotti and then we went on to Xavi.
- 2:44Speaker 4: That obviously didn't work out and we made a mid-season
- 2:46Speaker 4: change to Ari Arreola. But with the drama that was
- 2:50Speaker 4: going on with the locker room, there was tensions.
- 2:54Speaker 3: I think bringing in Jose Mourinho really.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Is that kind of game changer, especially when you have
- 2:59Speaker 4: the ego himself, the special one.
- 3:02Speaker 3: I think his mentality is.
- 3:03Speaker 4: I think his ego and just his mentality... So he's
- 3:07Speaker 4: worked already with the best players. He's worked in one
- 3:10Speaker 4: of the best locker rooms when it came to Real
- 3:12Speaker 4: Madrid in previous years. So I think bringing in a
- 3:15Speaker 4: mindset like that obviously calmed down the tension. We are
- 3:18Speaker 4: starting to hear more reports. We're starting to hear changes
- 3:20Speaker 4: in the whole atmosphere. I know now that after some training,
- 3:25Speaker 4: they sit down as a team with the coaches, players,
- 3:28Speaker 4: have a dinner together just to talk and obviously build that.
- 3:31Speaker 4: And I think over the past couple of weeks, we've
- 3:33Speaker 4: started to see that. I want to move on to
- 3:35Speaker 4: the Vinny one as of now. Vinny's off to a
- 3:40Speaker 4: bad start right now.
- 3:41Speaker 3: It's a little rocky. It's a little shaky.
- 3:43Speaker 4: We're not used to seeing the classical player that we
- 3:47Speaker 4: are used to seeing in Vinny. Maybe it's a mental
- 3:49Speaker 4: thing after coming off a great Brazil World Cup performances.
- 3:54Speaker 3: I think it's a very rocky start for him. I
- 3:58Speaker 3: can't blame him.
- 3:58Speaker 4: On the surgical chin, but I can't say it's a
- 4:01Speaker 4: little bad luck. I think Vinny's just off to a
- 4:03Speaker 4: little shaky start.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Yeah, Vin Cheney. That's a good nickname right there. But
- 4:08Speaker 3: I think he's just off to.
- 4:11Speaker 4: A shaky start. It's not going to be permanent. We're
- 4:13Speaker 4: going to start to see him lock in.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I know, a little side note, I know.
- 4:17Speaker 4: He just got out of his past relationship with that model.
- 4:21Speaker 4: Maybe it's time for him to lock in. Maybe it's
- 4:23Speaker 4: time for him to actually find himself because I know
- 4:26Speaker 4: there was reports of People saying he's put on weight.
- 4:28Speaker 4: We're not used to seeing the same in-shape Vinny that
- 4:31Speaker 4: we're used to seeing in previous years where he finished
- 4:34Speaker 4: second place in the Ballon d'Or voting. So I think
- 4:38Speaker 4: it's just a shaky start. We're barely in the start
- 4:41Speaker 4: of the season, Champions League, La Liga, and there's just
- 4:44Speaker 4: improvements to be made.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think when you analyze the Jose Mourinho
- 4:50Speaker 1: situation where Real Madrid, you look at them, man, they're Galactico.
- 4:53Speaker 1: They're the biggest club in all of football, no doubt
- 4:55Speaker 1: about it. champions league and them are synonymous with each
- 4:59Speaker 1: other they even them and barca dominate la liga i
- 5:04Speaker 1: think a combined 60 something league titles i might.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Be exaggerating between between the.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Both of them and it's kind of surprising seeing them
- 5:16Speaker 1: go through this much changes as of late and basically
- 5:19Speaker 1: just because you expect them to be great at all
- 5:22Speaker 1: times and it's not like Real Madrid is bad by
- 5:25Speaker 1: any means like they're but they have such high expectations
- 5:28Speaker 1: that if you don't meet those expectations it it's a
- 5:31Speaker 1: failed season and I think bringing in like you said
- 5:33Speaker 1: the special one Jose Mourinho kind of brings things leveled
- 5:37Speaker 1: but there is still some things he has to work
- 5:39Speaker 1: out and we kind of saw that at the beginning
- 5:40Speaker 1: of the season like they obviously opened up the the
- 5:43Speaker 1: season with a couple of big wins but then they
- 5:46Speaker 1: got into that matchup versus Atletico Madrid who this season
- 5:49Speaker 1: has looked magnificent and we can't we there's there's no
- 5:52Speaker 1: way around it even i think jonathan david my guy
- 5:55Speaker 1: has come in and looked very good for atletico madrid
- 5:57Speaker 1: as of late they got johnny cardoso back healthy an
- 6:00Speaker 1: american goat and then we've and then even um julian
- 6:03Speaker 1: alvarez with the whole situation with them arsenal is just
- 6:05Speaker 1: a link to finney and julian alvarez like it's just
- 6:08Speaker 1: like he's starting to get back into form and so
- 6:12Speaker 1: that posed a different threat to them Real Betz this
- 6:15Speaker 1: year even is looking pretty good defensively they've kind of
- 6:18Speaker 1: come back down to earth a little bit more as
- 6:20Speaker 1: the season has gone on as the Champions League has
- 6:23Speaker 1: gone on but we're seeing Real Madrid to start getting
- 6:26Speaker 1: into form to start getting a little bit more cooking
- 6:28Speaker 1: and I think that Roma game that Roma game was
- 6:31Speaker 1: where we could really analyze a switch where okay we
- 6:35Speaker 1: gotta lock in how are we down this much to
- 6:38Speaker 1: Roma and don't get me wrong Roma dominated them for, like,
- 6:41Speaker 1: at least 60 minutes. They were pushing the ball down
- 6:43Speaker 1: the field. Malin, he was getting... He hit the brace.
- 6:47Speaker 1: They were attacking in possession. Courtois looked uncomfortable. The defense
- 6:52Speaker 1: looked like they were just getting torched out there. And
- 6:54Speaker 1: then he made some moves that really solidified something for
- 6:58Speaker 1: this team, like bringing on Indrik, bringing on some speed,
- 7:01Speaker 1: some young guns that had a fire and something to prove.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Because obviously, Indrik, this season, he's not really played.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Like, and.
- 7:08Speaker 1: And Jose Mourinho went to him in a moment that
- 7:11Speaker 1: he needed something big to happen. And it ultimately did,
- 7:14Speaker 1: but at the expense of Vinicius Jr. And I think
- 7:18Speaker 1: when we look at Vinicius Jr., before Mbappe got there,
- 7:23Speaker 1: he was the guy. He was Real Madrid. He was
- 7:26Speaker 1: the best player for that team, leading them to Champions
- 7:31Speaker 1: League wins. And ever since then, Mbappe's come. It hasn't
- 7:34Speaker 1: happened for Real Madrid. They haven't been able to replicate
- 7:36Speaker 1: that same success. And it seems like a clash of
- 7:40Speaker 1: heads at certain points. One guy wants him to do
- 7:42Speaker 1: the other. One guy wants him to do the other.
- 7:44Speaker 1: And I think even a guy who is as dynamic
- 7:47Speaker 1: as Jude Bellingham, where he's able just to kind of
- 7:49Speaker 1: steer the ship in his own way, even having him
- 7:52Speaker 1: behind him, it seems like they're all just trying to
- 7:55Speaker 1: attack at certain points. Not in the sense that Jude
- 7:57Speaker 1: Bellingham is trying to be the main goal scorer, but
- 7:59Speaker 1: in the sense that he also fills up a lot
- 8:01Speaker 1: of space as well because he's constantly putting threat on
- 8:02Speaker 1: the goalie. He's constantly putting... all these are just everywhere.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Jude Bellingham's just everywhere all over the pitch at all times.
- 8:09Speaker 2: And then they bring in Diamande.
- 8:11Speaker 1: They bring in all these really good players who are
- 8:15Speaker 1: learning how to gel together. And I think you have
- 8:17Speaker 1: to have a manager like Jose Mourinho to kind of
- 8:20Speaker 1: bring them all together. And he has said that he
- 8:22Speaker 1: believes in Vinicius Jr. He believes he's going to come
- 8:24Speaker 1: back into form. And he even said the way that
- 8:27Speaker 1: Vinicius Jr.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Was treated last season, he would have left Real Madrid.
- 8:31Speaker 1: He wouldn't have stayed at the club so obviously there
- 8:34Speaker 1: is some tension like you were saying earlier that maybe
- 8:36Speaker 1: still has to get work through and maybe in the
- 8:39Speaker 1: summer the lack of wanting to giving him a contract
- 8:41Speaker 1: initially after what he's done for the club maybe could
- 8:44Speaker 1: be a reason why he's coming into the season was
- 8:48Speaker 1: not the great that great of form but at the
- 8:51Speaker 1: end of the day there's no excuses for the goats
- 8:53Speaker 1: like let's just be honest like there's no excuses for
- 8:56Speaker 1: the best players.
- 8:56Speaker 2: In the world You're Vinicius Jr. You're Brazil's main guy.
- 9:01Speaker 1: You're Brazil's top guy. You're the next guy after Neymar.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 9:06Speaker 1: You're the guy that was Real Madrid, obviously, until we
- 9:10Speaker 1: saw Moape come in.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Because, I mean, best player in the world. What are
- 9:13Speaker 2: you going to do about it? And then it's just
- 9:15Speaker 2: one of those things where.
- 9:17Speaker 1: We're looking for Vinicius to make something happen, but it
- 9:21Speaker 1: just doesn't happen at this moment in time.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.
- 9:27Speaker 4: And just to touch on that, even let's go back
- 9:29Speaker 4: to the signing of Mbappe. We're coming off a Champions
- 9:33Speaker 4: League win. We're coming off a La Liga win. We're
- 9:36Speaker 4: coming off one of the best seasons Real Madrid has
- 9:38Speaker 4: ever had.
- 9:38Speaker 3: We didn't even suffer a loss that season.
- 9:40Speaker 4: We had a couple of draws, but majority were wins.
- 9:43Speaker 4: So the signing of Mbappe, you look at that and
- 9:45Speaker 4: you think we're adding to a team that's already had
- 9:49Speaker 4: their foundation of success. They already know how to work together.
- 9:53Speaker 4: So adding a player like a world-class player like Mbappe,
- 9:56Speaker 4: who was arguably the best player in the world at
- 9:58Speaker 4: the time. and probably it could be arguable right now
- 10:02Speaker 4: adding him to that Real Madrid team we were just
- 10:05Speaker 4: on cloud nine so when the season happened and we
- 10:08Speaker 4: didn't really see any success come out of the team
- 10:12Speaker 4: though Mbappe produced But we were starting to see some
- 10:16Speaker 4: struggles early on with Vinny and Bellingham working with Mbappe.
- 10:20Speaker 3: And that kind of.
- 10:21Speaker 4: Led on to last season where Xavi came in and
- 10:25Speaker 4: we thought this signing would be great, especially moving on
- 10:28Speaker 4: from Carlos Ancelotti. Seeing Xavi, we just thought, you know,
- 10:31Speaker 4: he's coming from Bayern Leverkusen. We just thought we see
- 10:35Speaker 4: their success and what he could do with much better players.
- 10:39Speaker 3: We just wanted to see it.
- 10:40Speaker 4: So when midseason came about and we started seeing Real
- 10:43Speaker 4: Madrid struggle, we're like, this is not the Real Madrid
- 10:46Speaker 4: we're used to seeing. There's obviously some type of tension
- 10:49Speaker 4: in the locker room. There's some type of disagreement because
- 10:52Speaker 4: these players are not clicking. We were losing to teams
- 10:55Speaker 4: that we shouldn't have been losing to. So, yeah, it's
- 10:58Speaker 4: just been a constant struggle over the past few years.
- 11:02Speaker 4: I don't think there's ever been a streak.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Where we've kind of seen that connection just.
- 11:05Speaker 4: Click, the chemistry build. But I think in this past
- 11:09Speaker 4: two weeks, we started to see the... Obviously, that Roma
- 11:12Speaker 4: game was big for us. It was a time where
- 11:15Speaker 4: we saw the Real.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Madrid magic in the Champions League.
- 11:18Speaker 4: We've seen it over the years and we've seen it
- 11:20Speaker 4: plenty of times where people think we are down and out,
- 11:23Speaker 4: but we come back and we make Real Madrid magic
- 11:25Speaker 4: happen in the Champions League.
- 11:27Speaker 3: That Roma game, obviously.
- 11:28Speaker 4: was a big uplift in the locker room, I am
- 11:31Speaker 4: sure of it, because we saw, like you said, Carlos
- 11:34Speaker 4: Espi come on, the youngsters injured. Carlos Espi's already made
- 11:38Speaker 4: it proven since the start of this season that.
- 11:40Speaker 3: He is that super galactico.
- 11:43Speaker 4: He is that super sub that can come on and
- 11:45Speaker 4: can get you to goals because he is a true nine.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I think moving Mbappe to the striker position, It obviously
- 11:52Speaker 3: is great. He's going to produce. He's going to get
- 11:53Speaker 3: you goals. But I just think, me personally, I think
- 11:57Speaker 3: he is way better at his left-wing position. It's his
- 12:00Speaker 3: true position. It's where he's made his foundation just over
- 12:04Speaker 3: the years.
- 12:04Speaker 4: And the success, not only for PSG, but also for
- 12:07Speaker 4: France as well, is where he produced the most. So
- 12:11Speaker 4: I think, personally, I just think Vinny, yes, he's struggling.
- 12:15Speaker 4: But why not we test this? why not we move
- 12:18Speaker 4: Mbappe to the left wing and let's put a true
- 12:21Speaker 4: nine at the nine position.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Let's put Carlos Espi, let's put Indrik. Let's see what
- 12:26Speaker 3: can happen.
- 12:27Speaker 4: Because like with Barcelona, for example, they switched to the
- 12:31Speaker 4: false nine. They're moving Rafinha to the striker position at
- 12:33Speaker 4: a false nine.
- 12:34Speaker 3: And what he has done this season is incredible. It's amazing.
- 12:38Speaker 4: He's already won back-to-back La Liga Player of the Month
- 12:41Speaker 4: for August and September.
- 12:43Speaker 2: He's the best forward in the world, pretty much.
- 12:46Speaker 3: He's producing like he hasn't in years. It's been years
- 12:50Speaker 3: since we've seen a Rafinha like this. I don't think
- 12:52Speaker 3: we've ever seen a Rafinha like this.
- 12:54Speaker 4: So the way he's producing right now at his position
- 12:57Speaker 4: right now, it's obviously working because Hansi Flick, he took
- 13:03Speaker 4: a risk and he decided to do it. It's obviously working.
- 13:07Speaker 4: I say, why not? Let's try it. Let's test some
- 13:09Speaker 4: new things out. We're not even to midseason yet. It
- 13:12Speaker 4: wouldn't hurt the team at all.
- 13:15Speaker 1: See, I was going to ask about the missing the
- 13:18Speaker 1: chance at signing Rodri, but you led into another conversation.
- 13:23Speaker 1: I think regarding Mbappe and the left side or the striker.
- 13:27Speaker 1: And you and Ryan had a debate in the chat.
- 13:31Speaker 1: And obviously we know the Man City, Fraud City, the
- 13:33Speaker 1: allegations that are happening with Erling Haaland. And there's much
- 13:36Speaker 1: debate on where he's going to go. I would love
- 13:38Speaker 1: for him to come to the Arsenal. I just don't
- 13:40Speaker 1: see that happening.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I think he wants....
- 13:44Speaker 1: Premier football he's already won technically he's already won premier
- 13:48Speaker 1: leagues quote-unquote but and he's won champions league quote-unquote but
- 13:53Speaker 1: we i just don't know maybe we can sell him
- 13:56Speaker 1: captain oligard his best friend his captain in norway maybe
- 13:59Speaker 1: we can sell him that a little bit maybe throw
- 14:01Speaker 1: some that vinnie money at him but other than that
- 14:04Speaker 1: i think in reality we're really analyzing it it's the
- 14:06Speaker 1: race is going to be between real madrid or barcelona
- 14:10Speaker 1: and i think that in boppy and definitely the Vinny conversation,
- 14:14Speaker 1: all works into unison with this. And the Rafinha and
- 14:17Speaker 1: the Liminia Maw. Where does he want to be for
- 14:20Speaker 1: the most part? And I think Rodri being on the other,
- 14:22Speaker 1: also a part of this, one of his former teammates,
- 14:24Speaker 1: and Pedri and Bellingham, it all works. Bellingham being one
- 14:27Speaker 1: of his best friends, it all just happens to be
- 14:29Speaker 1: connected to Erling Haaland. And if these allegations were to come,
- 14:34Speaker 1: they are proven true. But if the appeal is unsuccessful and.
- 14:41Speaker 1: They're left in shambles having to sell out players. I
- 14:43Speaker 1: think Erling Haaland is definitely going to be the premier,
- 14:45Speaker 1: he's definitely going to be the premier elite, the premier
- 14:47Speaker 1: player up for sale. And he's also the guy that,
- 14:52Speaker 1: that has to make the biggest decision in all honesty.
- 14:56Speaker 1: And how I analyze it is I think he would
- 15:00Speaker 1: choose Barcelona. And so I'm going to say why he
- 15:02Speaker 1: wouldn't choose Real Madrid. And you can push back onto me,
- 15:05Speaker 1: onto this. We see, and it centers around Mbappe entirely.
- 15:10Speaker 1: I think, Like you said, his best position is the
- 15:13Speaker 1: left wing.
- 15:14Speaker 2: We all know that.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Usually when players get older, they move to that striker's
- 15:17Speaker 1: position like we've seen Messi do, like we've seen Ronaldo do.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Like when they lose their speed, when they lose that
- 15:22Speaker 1: little oomph, that little bit of power, that ball dribbling aspect,
- 15:26Speaker 1: being able to get past your defenders and just beat
- 15:28Speaker 1: them without them even having a chance off ball. That's
- 15:32Speaker 1: what happens when older players, they make that move to striker.
- 15:35Speaker 1: But Mbappe did that in the middle of his prime.
- 15:37Speaker 1: He said, no, I want to play striker. And he's
- 15:39Speaker 1: not only doing it For club, he's doing it for country.
- 15:43Speaker 1: And if we look at his club aspect, he has
- 15:49Speaker 1: one of the best, arguably, not right now, obviously, but
- 15:52Speaker 1: arguably the best left winger in the world outside of him.
- 15:56Speaker 2: He has new.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Signings, obviously, with Diamande on the right side and a
- 16:01Speaker 1: couple other guys that have been there. And then we
- 16:04Speaker 1: look at club, country. He's better than Barcola. He's better
- 16:09Speaker 1: than Dewey. He's better on the right side than, as
- 16:14Speaker 1: much as we love Oles, he's better than Oles.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Let's just be honest.
- 16:17Speaker 1: And he even has a guy that has won Ballon d'Or,
- 16:22Speaker 1: something he has not done. He has a guy on
- 16:25Speaker 1: his team who plays striker for his club at PSG,
- 16:29Speaker 1: and he's starting over him at striker. And to me,
- 16:31Speaker 1: I don't think Mbappe wants to be a left winger.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I think he wants to be a striker. I don't
- 16:36Speaker 1: think he will make that move, even for Erling Haaland,
- 16:38Speaker 1: because in reality.
- 16:41Speaker 1: He's better than Erling Haaland as well. Erling Haaland is
- 16:44Speaker 1: the best poacher in the world. But why I think
- 16:46Speaker 1: Harry Kane is better is because Harry Kane can strike
- 16:49Speaker 1: just as good. But also, he's an amazing facilitator. He's
- 16:55Speaker 1: an amazing passer on the ball. He tracks back further.
- 16:58Speaker 1: He's not afraid to get dirty. Where Haaland at times
- 17:03Speaker 1: is a little lazy on the pitch. He's a little
- 17:05Speaker 1: just waiting, biding his time. And he's just that assassin guy.
- 17:09Speaker 1: ready to strike when the when the when the moment
- 17:12Speaker 1: happens he's like a cobra out there inviting his time
- 17:16Speaker 1: to to kill his prey but we look at Mbappe
- 17:21Speaker 1: is he willing to make that move of Erling Haaland
- 17:23Speaker 1: signs for Real Madrid and they still have Vinicius Jr
- 17:25Speaker 1: like will all of them be able to be on
- 17:28Speaker 1: the same team at once I don't think so and
- 17:32Speaker 1: I think when we look at Barca I think Rafinha
- 17:34Speaker 1: understands that the striker position was given to him because
- 17:38Speaker 1: they couldn't sign Julian Alvarez. That's who they wanted. That
- 17:41Speaker 1: was the guy that they were chasing. They let go
- 17:43Speaker 1: of Ferdinand Torres, and they were chasing Julian Alvarez. But obviously,
- 17:47Speaker 1: Atletico was like, why would we sell him to our
- 17:48Speaker 1: biggest rival?
- 17:51Speaker 2: Why would we do that? We're not doing that.
- 17:53Speaker 1: So they basically said, we're not selling Julian Alvarez. So
- 17:57Speaker 1: they had to make a moving Rafinha inside.
- 18:00Speaker 2: I think Rafinha....
- 18:02Speaker 1: As great as he's playing right now, would make the
- 18:04Speaker 1: move back to the left side to put Erling Haaland
- 18:08Speaker 1: and having Laminia Maul.
- 18:09Speaker 2: On the right side.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I just don't see that same situation happening in Real Madrid.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Right.
- 18:15Speaker 4: And just to touch on that or to rebuttal on that,
- 18:19Speaker 4: I think obviously it is a player's mindset, but at
- 18:22Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's a coach's. It's a
- 18:25Speaker 4: coach's decision. And when it comes to Jose Mourinho, he
- 18:28Speaker 4: doesn't take no for an answer. What he says is said.
- 18:32Speaker 4: We've seen him over the years. He has the resume.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Last year when he was with Benfica, led Benfica to
- 18:40Speaker 4: one of their best seasons.
- 18:42Speaker 3: They didn't lose a single game.
- 18:43Speaker 4: However, they were against one of the best in the
- 18:45Speaker 4: league already. So they sadly finished at second place. But
- 18:49Speaker 4: like I said, when it comes to Real Madrid, no
- 18:52Speaker 4: one talks back to the coaches. unless the coaches doesn't
- 18:55Speaker 4: stand up for himself. That is not the case with
- 18:58Speaker 4: Jose Mourinho.
- 18:59Speaker 3: What he says is said.
- 19:01Speaker 4: He dealt with Cristiano Ronaldo. He has the biggest ego
- 19:06Speaker 4: of any player in history, arguably. So when you take
- 19:10Speaker 4: that mindset into a locker room, and let's say hypothetically,
- 19:14Speaker 4: a signing like Erling Haaland, my argument is because he
- 19:18Speaker 4: already has that chemistry with Jude Bellingham.
- 19:20Speaker 3: When they played at Barista Dortmund, so.
- 19:23Speaker 2: It's not like they're obviously great friends.
- 19:26Speaker 4: You saw them in the world cup when norway played
- 19:29Speaker 4: england it was just fun and games to them they
- 19:31Speaker 4: were glad to see each other and over the years
- 19:33Speaker 4: in soccer we've seen these kinds of connections built at
- 19:36Speaker 4: previous clubs and it leads them to recruit these kinds
- 19:39Speaker 4: of players so this is nothing new to erlin holland
- 19:43Speaker 4: and before he ever moved to man city one of
- 19:46Speaker 4: his dream destinations was to play for real madrid real
- 19:49Speaker 4: madrid is arguably one of the best clubs in the
- 19:51Speaker 4: world if not the best club in the world when
- 19:53Speaker 4: it comes to historical success so playing with them is
- 19:57Speaker 4: not only an opportunity but it is a privilege to
- 19:59Speaker 4: wear the Real Madrid badge so bringing in a player
- 20:02Speaker 4: like Erling Haaland and making that technical switch in the
- 20:06Speaker 4: formations to have that success I think Mbappe When it
- 20:10Speaker 4: comes down to it, when it's all said and done,
- 20:12Speaker 4: he's already established he's good at left wing. He's already
- 20:15Speaker 4: established he's great. He can produce that striker. If he
- 20:18Speaker 4: can make that move back to left wing and also
- 20:21Speaker 4: add the, I'm going to quote it, the arsenal of
- 20:24Speaker 4: Erling Haas to a Real Madrid squad, it's obviously going
- 20:27Speaker 4: to sit.
- 20:28Speaker 3: It will work. I will say because like you mentioned it,
- 20:32Speaker 3: Erling Haaland is a poacher. He likes to wait on
- 20:35Speaker 3: the ball to come to him. He's not much of
- 20:36Speaker 3: a technical guy, dribble, dribble. No, he waits.
- 20:40Speaker 4: And I think Mbappe with his skill set, with obviously
- 20:44Speaker 4: what he's already experienced in different leagues, he could obviously adapt.
- 20:48Speaker 3: That and obviously work with Erling Haaland.
- 20:51Speaker 4: And putting Jude Bellingham at the number 10 position with
- 20:54Speaker 4: Erling Haaland in front of him, It will be something amazing,
- 20:58Speaker 4: and obviously we can look at highlights. We can go
- 21:02Speaker 4: back and look at the highlights with Duke Bellingham and
- 21:04Speaker 4: Erling Haaland back at BVB.
- 21:06Speaker 3: So I think it's going to work. You made a
- 21:09Speaker 3: great point also with Barca, but you have the signing
- 21:14Speaker 3: of Gordon. You have the signing of the one they
- 21:17Speaker 3: brought over from Buse. It's too loaded at that position.
- 21:21Speaker 4: That is why they had to bring in Rafinha and
- 21:24Speaker 4: move him to the striking position at a false nine.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Because you have this one position that is just their
- 21:29Speaker 3: natural position.
- 21:31Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong. Barista's Dorman, the one they
- 21:34Speaker 4: bet on, he's a great player. We saw it a
- 21:36Speaker 4: couple years ago in the Champions League final against Real Madrid.
- 21:40Speaker 3: He was cooking us.
- 21:42Speaker 4: We should have at least conceded two goals that game
- 21:45Speaker 4: because he was cooking us on that side. I'm not
- 21:48Speaker 4: going to downplay him. He's an amazing player. But when
- 21:51Speaker 4: you add a player like Gordon, it's just too loaded up.
- 21:54Speaker 4: So if you bring on Erling Haaland, Yes, it's going
- 21:57Speaker 4: to be a great signing. But what are you going
- 21:59Speaker 4: to do at that left-wing position? You can't even bat
- 22:01Speaker 4: an eye to the right-wing position because you already have
- 22:03Speaker 4: Laminia Ma.
- 22:04Speaker 3: And he's already got that position on set.
- 22:07Speaker 4: He'll rarely have a sub come on for him unless
- 22:10Speaker 4: he's having a bad performance. But lately, I'll give it
- 22:13Speaker 4: to him. Laminia Ma has been playing. So he's been
- 22:16Speaker 4: backing up what he's been trying to say. He's already
- 22:19Speaker 4: put up over 19 goals in the past few weeks.
- 22:22Speaker 3: It's honestly insane.
- 22:23Speaker 5: So.
- 22:24Speaker 3: Like I said, you signed Erling Haaland to a Barca squad.
- 22:27Speaker 4: The striker position might be a little iffy, rocky, but
- 22:34Speaker 4: a manager will always find where to fit him in.
- 22:37Speaker 4: So it's nothing crazy. So I think arguably it could
- 22:42Speaker 4: go either way. It's 50-50 if it came down to it.
- 22:45Speaker 4: But really we just got to pay attention to if
- 22:48Speaker 4: Man City.
- 22:49Speaker 3: Is given those transfer bans. those transfer bans will play
- 22:53Speaker 3: a role. They will play a role.
- 22:55Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it's a one-way where they can
- 22:57Speaker 4: bring in players or let go players, but I'm sure
- 23:00Speaker 4: it will be established once everything is settled, once the
- 23:02Speaker 4: verdicts come in and everything. But like I said, it's 50-50,
- 23:06Speaker 4: and if it's Barca or Real Madrid, I think Erling
- 23:09Speaker 4: Haaland will.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Still have success to which either club he does go to.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll bet Man City, I agree with what
- 23:16Speaker 1: you're saying, and it makes a lot of sense. I
- 23:18Speaker 1: just think We'll have to see because there's so much
- 23:21Speaker 1: connection between him and both squads. Like we said, Rodri,
- 23:24Speaker 1: he's comfortable playing with Rodri at the highest levels. He's
- 23:27Speaker 1: comfortable with Jude Bellingham because they're friends and they grew
- 23:30Speaker 1: up in the academy. Not academy, but they grew up in...
- 23:33Speaker 1: They were young players trying to find their way at Dortmund.
- 23:37Speaker 1: And then you just got guys like Lamine Amon.
- 23:40Speaker 2: You got Mbappe.
- 23:42Speaker 1: My only question mark is where does Vinny go if
- 23:44Speaker 1: Mbappe goes to the left side?
- 23:47Speaker 2: Is he gone?
- 23:47Speaker 5: Is that.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Do you sacrifice Vinicius Jr. to bring in Erling Haaland?
- 23:53Speaker 2: And as a Real Madrid fan, would you be willing
- 23:56Speaker 2: to do that?
- 23:58Speaker 3: Obviously, I love Vinicius.
- 23:59Speaker 4: I love the way he's contributed to the Real Madrid program.
- 24:02Speaker 4: But when it comes to Real Madrid, no one is
- 24:04Speaker 4: bigger than the club. This has been spoken over the
- 24:08Speaker 4: years for so long. We saw Cristiano Ronaldo.
- 24:11Speaker 3: He was willing to take a contract agreement.
- 24:14Speaker 4: There was obviously contract extension arguments back in 2014 when
- 24:19Speaker 4: he was having them win Real Madrid. But like Florentino
- 24:22Speaker 4: Perez says, no one is bigger than the club. Yes,
- 24:25Speaker 4: we may have signed you to an extension, but if
- 24:28Speaker 4: we see a move that is best for the club
- 24:30Speaker 4: and we can see long-term effects of it happening, we
- 24:33Speaker 4: will make the move. We saw Vinny this offseason. Obviously,
- 24:37Speaker 4: there were some issues before he ended up officially signing.
- 24:41Speaker 4: It was very quiet for a whole month.
- 24:43Speaker 3: We didn't even know where he was going. There was
- 24:46Speaker 3: some rumors of him going to.
- 24:47Speaker 4: Arsenal, heavy rumors of his team contacting Arsenal and giving
- 24:50Speaker 4: them the thumbs up. And Real Madrid being aware of
- 24:53Speaker 4: that and just kind of keeping them in the loop.
- 24:56Speaker 4: So when the extension happened, obviously we're happy. We're happy
- 25:00Speaker 4: to keep our left winger. We're happy to keep.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Our world-class player in Vinny Jr. But like I said,
- 25:06Speaker 3: no one is bigger than the club.
- 25:07Speaker 4: So if it came down to it and we had
- 25:10Speaker 4: to look at Vinny and we had to say, where
- 25:12Speaker 4: can we place you?
- 25:14Speaker 3: We can't put him on the bench. We can't put
- 25:16Speaker 3: him on the bench because on that right wing.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Position, we're waiting for Rodrigo to come back and people
- 25:22Speaker 4: have forgotten about him.
- 25:23Speaker 3: He's coming back from injury next year.
- 25:25Speaker 4: So when we look at that position. Yeah, because Diamande
- 25:31Speaker 4: has been, Diamande's position is not the right wing. We
- 25:35Speaker 4: put him there because we think he can facilitate and
- 25:38Speaker 4: he can obviously help us from that position.
- 25:42Speaker 3: But his natural position is the left wing as well.
- 25:44Speaker 3: And we've seen that in this past Champions League game.
- 25:47Speaker 3: We saw him in the league match this past Sunday.
- 25:50Speaker 3: So when you look at the left wing position, it'll
- 25:53Speaker 3: be overstacked. It will be. There's no argument on that
- 25:56Speaker 3: if we move Mbappe to the left wing position.
- 25:59Speaker 4: However, if you really want to look at it, we've
- 26:02Speaker 4: already signed Diamande, who is 19 years old, I believe,
- 26:06Speaker 4: to 146 million or somewhere in that range.
- 26:10Speaker 3: He can grow.
- 26:11Speaker 4: We've seen players grow at Real Madrid. We've seen Real
- 26:14Speaker 4: Madrid make moves from their academy. They sold their academy
- 26:18Speaker 4: players for over 200 mil. 200 million around the world.
- 26:23Speaker 2: So we can't... Nico Paz, the list goes on and on.
- 26:26Speaker 3: The list goes on.
- 26:28Speaker 4: So we can't look at that position and say, Diamante
- 26:31Speaker 4: is not good enough to progress from that position.
- 26:34Speaker 3: Obviously not.
- 26:35Speaker 4: Every roster, and especially if you're at the top of
- 26:37Speaker 4: your league, There's going to be stacked positions. There's going
- 26:41Speaker 4: to be sometimes you're on the bench, sometimes you're starting.
- 26:43Speaker 4: That's just the end of the discussion because when it
- 26:46Speaker 4: comes to it, obviously you're going to look at who
- 26:49Speaker 4: do we pay. That's why Vinny is starting every game,
- 26:52Speaker 4: that he can. Unless he's suspended, of course not. But
- 26:54Speaker 4: that's why you look at the games and he's in
- 26:56Speaker 4: the starting lineup because he's getting paid that kind of money.
- 27:00Speaker 4: You can't really put in a player like, obviously, Diomonde
- 27:03Speaker 4: over him. No, because we're paying Vinny this kind of
- 27:06Speaker 4: amount of money.
- 27:07Speaker 2: And seniority has a lot to do with it.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Absolutely. So, and seniority and just contributions.
- 27:13Speaker 4: Obviously, we're going to look at the right-wing position, and
- 27:16Speaker 4: that's been a rocky position for us over the past
- 27:19Speaker 4: couple seasons. With Rodrigo going down last year with the
- 27:21Speaker 4: torn ACL, we were starting to see more of Brahim
- 27:24Speaker 4: Diaz in that position. And Brahim Diaz, great player, phenomenal
- 27:28Speaker 4: player in my books. I think we could get a
- 27:31Speaker 4: good deal out of him on a transfer. However, I mean,
- 27:35Speaker 4: like I said, he contributes for his country, Morocco. So
- 27:39Speaker 4: you just look at all around, every position is going
- 27:41Speaker 4: to be stacked. And obviously you're going to be like,
- 27:44Speaker 4: this player should start over this player. Well, no, because
- 27:46Speaker 4: this player does this, this, this. However, I just don't,
- 27:49Speaker 4: I think when it comes down to it, Jose Mourinho will.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Make that decision.
- 27:54Speaker 4: And obviously, Florentino Perez will have a say in it
- 27:57Speaker 4: in the 100% official decision. But I think if it
- 28:01Speaker 4: were to happen, Jose Mourinho will do his magic and
- 28:04Speaker 4: he will make it work. All right.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Thank you. Almost convinced me. I'm just not there yet.
- 28:11Speaker 2: I'm just not there yet.
- 28:12Speaker 1: But that was some good Real Madrid talk for this podcast.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Let's move into a couple of these other teams in
- 28:18Speaker 1: the Champions League fixtures. I think whoever's a Real Madrid
- 28:21Speaker 1: fan and they listen to this, I wonder what their
- 28:23Speaker 1: opinions are going to be. So if you are listening
- 28:24Speaker 1: to this and you are a Real Madrid fan, just.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Leave your opinions.
- 28:27Speaker 1: How is Jose Mourinho doing? What's your thoughts of Vinicius Jr.?
- 28:31Speaker 1: Would you like to see Haaland come to Real Madrid?
- 28:34Speaker 2: Do you think it would work? Just give us your
- 28:35Speaker 2: opinions in the comments section. We would like to hear it.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Now, let's look at some of these Champions League matchups
- 28:40Speaker 1: that we've had this week. Obviously, Real Madrid gets– they're
- 28:43Speaker 1: in form right now. They look a lot better. They
- 28:45Speaker 1: beat Leipzig. But Leipzig's been getting absolutely destroyed this week.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Poor them.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Like, they got killed 7-0 to Bayern in the weekend
- 28:53Speaker 1: and 4-1 in Champions League. Antonio Nusa's looking real good
- 28:56Speaker 1: in red right now. He's going to come to Arsenal
- 28:58Speaker 1: in January, hopefully. But let's look into a more, like,
- 29:03Speaker 1: fair matchup, I will say. And that was supposed to
- 29:07Speaker 1: be fair. PSG right now, they look like arguably the
- 29:12Speaker 1: best club in the world, the best team collective in
- 29:14Speaker 1: the world at this very moment. And they have the
- 29:18Speaker 1: games that have been won to prove it. Like they
- 29:20Speaker 1: beat Manchester City, who have been running through everybody in
- 29:25Speaker 1: the Premier League, except.
- 29:26Speaker 2: For Arsenal and the community shield, 3-0 baby. But for
- 29:29Speaker 2: everyone else, they've dominated.
- 29:32Speaker 1: They utterly have put goals on top of goals. I
- 29:36Speaker 1: think Erling Haaland is on pace for 38 goals in
- 29:39Speaker 1: the Premier League.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Right now and.
- 29:42Speaker 1: They look they look everyone my friend Bonzo likes to
- 29:45Speaker 1: say this saying all the time a Rolls Royce looks
- 29:48Speaker 1: like a Rolls Royce Chrysler looks like a Rolls Royce
- 29:50Speaker 1: so a Rolls Royce pulls up right and I think
- 29:52Speaker 1: that's what Man City was looking at Ryan Cherky we
- 29:55Speaker 1: got Erling Haaland I don't know Fraudfoden he's just not
- 29:58Speaker 1: the same guy no more But you understand what I'm saying.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Even though he goes down with injury, he was going
- 30:02Speaker 1: to be out a couple of weeks. That PSG game,
- 30:05Speaker 1: this one especially that we're about to talk about, a
- 30:07Speaker 1: lot of injuries. But we look at this week, PSG
- 30:11Speaker 1: and Barca. I think this was the most anticipated matchup
- 30:14Speaker 1: of the entire Champions League up to this point.
- 30:17Speaker 2: And it did not disappoint. What were your thoughts of
- 30:20Speaker 2: that game?
- 30:23Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
- 30:23Speaker 4: Starting with the first half, PSG came out swinging. I mean,
- 30:27Speaker 4: PSG is much of an attack. They possess the ball
- 30:30Speaker 4: at a great pace. And we weren't expecting that against
- 30:33Speaker 4: a Barca team who's been phenomenal this season, scoring close
- 30:37Speaker 4: to over two goals a game, producing the way that
- 30:40Speaker 4: they were. And Laminia Molle coming off one of his
- 30:43Speaker 4: best months with Barca. So also just PSG's firepower. It
- 30:48Speaker 4: was just a little too much. It felt like PSG was.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Always on the counterattack. And we didn't see much of Barca.
- 30:54Speaker 3: We didn't see much of Laminia Maul in that first half.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Laminia Maul producing one of the worst halves he's had
- 31:00Speaker 3: all season.
- 31:01Speaker 4: So, like you said, it's obvious a big team looks
- 31:06Speaker 4: big and bad until a bigger and badder team comes.
- 31:09Speaker 3: So, when we saw Desiree Dewey, phenomenal player. Phenomenal player,
- 31:14Speaker 3: and I'll say it right now. Desiree Dewey is better
- 31:17Speaker 3: than Laminia Maul if he had Barca's PR team. I'll
- 31:20Speaker 3: stand by that. I stand by that. We're not doing
- 31:23Speaker 3: this right now. I stand by that. But the game overall,
- 31:28Speaker 3: 4-2 finished.
- 31:29Speaker 4: We obviously weren't, no one could have predicted that Barca
- 31:33Speaker 4: was obviously going to lose by that. 4-2, we thought
- 31:36Speaker 4: it was going to be a back and forth because
- 31:38Speaker 4: we saw last year when PSG played.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Barca, it was firepower, goal after goal after goal. So
- 31:43Speaker 3: we saw it before.
- 31:45Speaker 4: And when Dembele went down, it was kind of iffy
- 31:48Speaker 4: for PSG. It was kind of, Everybody held their breath.
- 31:50Speaker 4: We didn't know what was going to happen.
- 31:52Speaker 3: Then Converse Scalia went down. So, obviously, PSG lost some
- 31:56Speaker 3: firepower in this game. But the way that PSG.
- 32:02Speaker 4: And I think Dembele's out for a couple of weeks
- 32:04Speaker 4: as well as Marquinhos.
- 32:05Speaker 3: They will be missing Marquinhos as well. So, let's look
- 32:09Speaker 3: into the second half.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Laminia Mall comes and scores a Chivella kick on the
- 32:14Speaker 4: side of the box.
- 32:15Speaker 3: Great running goal.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Great running goal.
- 32:19Speaker 3: But you look two minutes later, what a response from Vitinha.
- 32:23Speaker 3: What a response.
- 32:25Speaker 2: What a nasty goal. Dude, just nasty goal after nasty
- 32:27Speaker 2: goal in this one. It was nasty.
- 32:30Speaker 3: It was great.
- 32:31Speaker 4: So, I don't think Barca can obviously put their heads...
- 32:34Speaker 4: I don't think they should put their heads down. This
- 32:37Speaker 4: PSG team is the defending champions of Europe.
- 32:40Speaker 3: So, you can't look at this game and think, oh,
- 32:42Speaker 3: we lost....
- 32:44Speaker 4: We're going to take this hard. No, you have Classico
- 32:46Speaker 4: coming up. You have a game that you are supposed
- 32:49Speaker 4: to win is what people are going to say. Me personally,
- 32:52Speaker 4: as a Madrid fan, I want us to win, but
- 32:54Speaker 4: I'm going to be real. Barca is playing at a
- 32:56Speaker 4: phenomenal level that Real Madrid isn't. So, obviously, I'm going
- 33:00Speaker 4: to let the game play because when it comes to Classico,
- 33:03Speaker 4: anything can go.
- 33:04Speaker 3: But Barca has had Real.
- 33:06Speaker 4: Madrid's number over the past few years since Mbappe has joined,
- 33:10Speaker 4: and it has been phenomenal. brought to my attention that, yes,
- 33:13Speaker 4: I mean, Yamal's head-to-head record, it may be a little close,
- 33:16Speaker 4: but Barca has always had their number in the past
- 33:18Speaker 4: couple of years.
- 33:19Speaker 3: So when it comes to Classico this Sunday, we can
- 33:21Speaker 3: discuss that.
- 33:22Speaker 4: But right now, PSG, the way that they are playing,
- 33:25Speaker 4: I think just it's going to be a loss, obviously,
- 33:28Speaker 4: losing Cabrera and Dembele. But I do not think that
- 33:31Speaker 4: it changes the technique and the success that this team
- 33:34Speaker 4: can bring to the table. I think when they get
- 33:37Speaker 4: Dembele back, they will go back to their original form.
- 33:39Speaker 4: But Desiree Dewey is playing phenomenal. He's playing phenomenal. And Barca,
- 33:45Speaker 4: like I said, they can't put their heads down. They
- 33:47Speaker 4: got a bigger game coming up, and it's just going
- 33:49Speaker 4: to continue on to the season.
- 33:51Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a great game. Great. It lived
- 33:54Speaker 3: up to the expectation, I would say.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I think definitely both sides played a great game. Like,
- 34:00Speaker 1: even the score, the scoreline doesn't really dictate what the
- 34:04Speaker 1: game actually was if you watched it. Like, it was
- 34:06Speaker 1: high-level football happening at all times. And even with PSG,
- 34:13Speaker 1: just their press right now is absolutely insane. And we
- 34:17Speaker 1: were having an argument, me and Ryan, in the chat,
- 34:19Speaker 1: who has the better defense, PSG or Barca? And I
- 34:22Speaker 1: said Barca because Kubarsi, Espart, Martin, like, Cancelo they they're
- 34:28Speaker 1: they're a good group and now with Roji and who
- 34:31Speaker 1: is back there and is like he's like a a
- 34:35Speaker 1: veteran point guard you know kind of for for if
- 34:38Speaker 1: we want to put it into terms like he knows
- 34:41Speaker 1: he he just gets the team and steers the ship
- 34:43Speaker 1: right that's that's Roji's role that's why he's one of
- 34:46Speaker 1: the greatest midfielders in the entire world and we see
- 34:50Speaker 1: this defense I think Barca has I don't know how
- 34:54Speaker 1: many goals they've actually allowed this season.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Not very many.
- 34:56Speaker 1: They have not allowed really anything this season, and they've
- 34:59Speaker 1: dominated team after team after team. But what this PSG
- 35:03Speaker 1: squad was able to do, they were pressing and pressing
- 35:06Speaker 1: and pressing, even when the belly came off. Ferran Torres,
- 35:11Speaker 1: who was at Barca, nearly had a hat trick and
- 35:14Speaker 1: had zero goals.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
- 35:17Speaker 1: He had looks that people would dream of. Obviously, Joan
- 35:20Speaker 1: Garcia being a great goalie made some amazing saves like
- 35:25Speaker 1: we need.
- 35:25Speaker 5: A touch on this keeper's performance in this game absolutely
- 35:29Speaker 5: phenomenal for a 4-2 finish that game should have been
- 35:32Speaker 5: way more but the way this keeper played in the
- 35:35Speaker 5: first half and also leading to the second phenomenal it
- 35:38Speaker 5: was phenomenal.
- 35:40Speaker 1: What was that one sequence he i think he blocked
- 35:42Speaker 1: on one just sequence alone three goals i i think
- 35:45Speaker 1: he was he hit one And then I can't remember
- 35:48Speaker 1: exactly who's kicking it, but he kicked it. He came back,
- 35:51Speaker 1: dove the other way. And he, John Garcia, he had
- 35:55Speaker 1: a great game in that one. Like don't, the scoreboard
- 35:57Speaker 1: doesn't say what happened because even Fabian, even Lucas Hernandez,
- 36:02Speaker 1: His header, he hasn't scored a goal, they said, in
- 36:06Speaker 1: three years.
- 36:07Speaker 2: He has not scored a goal.
- 36:08Speaker 1: I don't know how long it's been since he scored
- 36:10Speaker 1: a goal, but his header was nasty. Literally, he was
- 36:13Speaker 1: not the intended receiver. He was behind every single person
- 36:18Speaker 1: that was crowding the box. He just so happened to
- 36:22Speaker 1: just out-muscle Anthony Gordon. Anthony Gordon, by the way. I
- 36:25Speaker 1: was watching YouTube, and he was saying that his defense was...
- 36:30Speaker 1: was underrated that that fifa gave him a low rating
- 36:33Speaker 1: i'm sorry bro you got out jumped by a five
- 36:36Speaker 1: by a five nine five five ten defensive back and
- 36:42Speaker 1: a fullback you you got bodied bro that was like
- 36:46Speaker 1: if ma if randy moss were to like make put
- 36:49Speaker 1: you on you got mossed you got mossed bro like
- 36:52Speaker 1: you you got bodied and the that header was just
- 36:54Speaker 1: amazing by lucas hernandez petinia What a class goal from
- 36:58Speaker 1: outside the box.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Set it up.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Nasty.
- 37:02Speaker 2: It was amazing.
- 37:03Speaker 1: And then Fabian Ruiz just to end it all. PSG,
- 37:09Speaker 1: they can create some absolute chances. And I think as
- 37:15Speaker 1: far as Barca, like you said, they have class to
- 37:17Speaker 1: go coming up. They have to pick their heads back
- 37:19Speaker 1: up and come play a tough matchup as well. And
- 37:23Speaker 1: I think Laminia Maul, he had a great game in
- 37:24Speaker 1: this one. I don't think you can really take anything
- 37:26Speaker 1: away from him versus PSG. I just think some of
- 37:29Speaker 1: these other guys, they just weren't. Pedri, honestly, in this game,
- 37:34Speaker 1: kind of non-existent. Like he really didn't do anything to
- 37:36Speaker 1: kind of establish himself within this game. Outside, I believe
- 37:40Speaker 1: one shot, he tried it early in the game. Outside
- 37:42Speaker 1: of that, I really didn't see much from him. And
- 37:45Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon as well. I just dogged on him for
- 37:47Speaker 1: getting outbodied, for getting bodied basically in the box.
- 37:51Speaker 2: He didn't show up as well in this game.
- 37:53Speaker 1: And I think that PSG, they're just so ready for
- 37:56Speaker 1: every single matchup that they're playing right now.
- 38:00Speaker 2: It's kind of unfair.
- 38:01Speaker 1: At this moment in time, they go walk in and
- 38:03Speaker 1: beat Man City last one and they beat Barca in
- 38:06Speaker 1: this one. I just wonder, the only team that's going
- 38:09Speaker 1: to stop them is in red. That's all I'm saying
- 38:12Speaker 1: because they don't let anybody score. So until Bayern, which
- 38:16Speaker 1: we can get into next if you want to talk about,
- 38:18Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on the Bayern and Arsenal game?
- 38:21Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
- 38:22Speaker 4: That was the main game that I was watching, aside
- 38:24Speaker 4: from the Real Madrid game, believe it or not. That
- 38:27Speaker 4: was the main game that I wanted to watch, Bayern
- 38:29Speaker 4: and Arsenal. What a matchup that is. With the defensive
- 38:34Speaker 4: team that Arsenal is, and with the firepower that Bayern is,
- 38:38Speaker 4: obviously missing a.
- 38:38Speaker 3: Guy like Michael Alisse due to suspension. Just going into
- 38:43Speaker 3: this game, you want.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Saka goes down with injury early in the game.
- 38:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Our funnel for offense, so... It proved to be a
- 38:52Speaker 2: good matchup.
- 38:53Speaker 3: It is. It lived up to the hype.
- 38:55Speaker 4: I think not a lot of people, including myself, I
- 38:58Speaker 4: didn't expect a 2-2 finish.
- 38:59Speaker 3: I expected a 1-1 or a 1-0. I didn't expect this.
- 39:03Speaker 4: Obviously, with a guy like Raya, a goalkeeper, he's been
- 39:06Speaker 4: kind of rocky these past couple weeks.
- 39:08Speaker 3: He's been kind of rocky.
- 39:10Speaker 2: Versus Brian, it was very bad.
- 39:14Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're looking at this game, and you're obviously
- 39:17Speaker 4: going to take these struggles into account into a game
- 39:19Speaker 4: like this.
- 39:20Speaker 3: So, Bayern, being the team that they are, they are
- 39:23Speaker 3: very attack first. They are.
- 39:26Speaker 4: And when they go up, sometimes they don't take their
- 39:28Speaker 4: foot off the tiger's neck. We've seen that in these
- 39:31Speaker 4: past couple games, the league matches, the Champions League matches.
- 39:34Speaker 4: They don't like to score and then play conservative like
- 39:37Speaker 4: some teams do. No, they want to stack up the goals.
- 39:40Speaker 4: So Arsenal did their part. They did their part in
- 39:43Speaker 4: holding them into two goals. So let's not take away
- 39:47Speaker 4: from Arsenal's firepower in this game. They scored two goals
- 39:50Speaker 4: against Bayern. Bayern is not a team that obviously likes
- 39:53Speaker 4: to let up goals.
- 39:54Speaker 3: Sometimes they do.
- 39:55Speaker 4: But Arsenal, with their struggles these past couple weeks, obviously
- 40:00Speaker 4: pulling out wins here and there, we didn't expect this
- 40:02Speaker 4: out of them. I didn't expect this out of them.
- 40:04Speaker 4: But like I said, I didn't expect a 2-2 finish.
- 40:07Speaker 4: I expected a 1 or a draw at 1-1. But
- 40:10Speaker 4: this game obviously lived up more than.
- 40:13Speaker 3: What I expected.
- 40:15Speaker 4: So I want to hear your personal opinion from Arsenal fans.
- 40:18Speaker 4: How do you think your team performed? What do you
- 40:21Speaker 4: think they can improve on?
- 40:22Speaker 1: Yeah, as an Arsenal fan, I'm very satisfied with this game.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Because I think it just shows championship mentality. A team
- 40:30Speaker 1: that's willing to do the dirty work when it needs
- 40:32Speaker 1: to happen. Because obviously, for Martin Odegaard, I think Martin
- 40:37Speaker 1: Odegaard this season is back. He's definitely back to being
- 40:41Speaker 1: that guy like we saw in 2023, 2024. Dealing with
- 40:45Speaker 1: injuries last year, there was a call for maybe it's
- 40:48Speaker 1: time for Arsenal to sell our captain and bring in
- 40:51Speaker 1: someone new.
- 40:52Speaker 2: And I just think this goes to show how good
- 40:57Speaker 2: Bayern is.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Obviously, Harry Kane and his class, between him and Lamine
- 41:01Speaker 1: for Ballon d'Or, they're going to be the two finalists, obviously.
- 41:04Speaker 1: But I think watching this game and what he's able
- 41:07Speaker 1: to do, how can it not be Harry Kane, in
- 41:10Speaker 1: my opinion? I just think definitely some of the passes
- 41:12Speaker 1: and the facilitation that he was making that passed to
- 41:15Speaker 1: Alphonso Davies. My gosh, what a finish, by the way,
- 41:18Speaker 1: with your off foot, off balance from a quote-unquote left back.
- 41:22Speaker 1: But we all know Alphonso Davies is way better than
- 41:26Speaker 1: what a titled position is.
- 41:28Speaker 2: He can do it all.
- 41:29Speaker 1: And especially being arguably the best CONCACAF player that there
- 41:33Speaker 1: is with me and you being from North America.
- 41:36Speaker 2: And he played an amazing ball. And so did Harry Kane.
- 41:43Speaker 2: And then I.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Felt like we lost it a little bit. We lost
- 41:47Speaker 1: the narrative arsenal. We kind of got a little bit lackluster.
- 41:51Speaker 1: We got a little complacent. And that's when we saw
- 41:53Speaker 1: Bayern Munich start to really press and start to really
- 41:56Speaker 1: get going. And then Harry Kane pushes one into goal
- 42:01Speaker 1: and then crowded box hand up.
- 42:04Speaker 2: Abnormally in the air.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I don't think Jurian Timber intended to pick his hand
- 42:07Speaker 1: up and obviously hit it, but when your sliding hand
- 42:09Speaker 1: is up, makes connection, stops it from going into goal.
- 42:12Speaker 2: You have to call that.
- 42:15Speaker 1: And obviously, Harry Kane just always somehow gets a penalty
- 42:18Speaker 1: versus Arsenal, scores the goal there. And I just felt
- 42:21Speaker 1: like in that moment for a second, I was like, dang,
- 42:23Speaker 1: I think we might actually lose this game. And I
- 42:25Speaker 1: feel like everyone probably felt that way, that we might
- 42:27Speaker 1: actually lose that game.
- 42:28Speaker 2: But we've seen this from Arsenal this season.
- 42:32Speaker 1: Outside of Brighton, They've been down a couple of times
- 42:35Speaker 1: versus Chelsea, versus Leeds. And then having to kind of
- 42:40Speaker 1: turn up versus Lil at the end of the game.
- 42:44Speaker 1: And this one, they did the same thing as well.
- 42:47Speaker 1: They took over that football game after that Kerry Kane goal.
- 42:52Speaker 1: I don't know how much time of possession they actually had.
- 42:56Speaker 1: But I think this is where Arsenal... poses a big
- 43:01Speaker 1: threat to big clubs. Obviously, our attack needs work. Bukayo
- 43:05Speaker 1: Saka going down hurts us quite a bit, but I
- 43:09Speaker 1: think Noni Marueke, as of right now, over the last
- 43:11Speaker 1: four games, has had amazing form, and Ebreche Eze looked
- 43:15Speaker 1: great in this game. He was willing to beat his guy,
- 43:20Speaker 1: magic feet. He even scored the goal off volley. Very
- 43:23Speaker 1: tough goal from an amazing pass. Victor Yacarez comes into
- 43:27Speaker 1: this one, has, I think, his best game of the season.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Obviously, doesn't.
- 43:31Speaker 1: Score his own goal, but contributes to that Declan Rice
- 43:34Speaker 1: give and go where he put the ball perfect to
- 43:37Speaker 1: where he needed to be to ultimately get the draw.
- 43:40Speaker 1: But I think, like I was saying, where this Arsenal team,
- 43:44Speaker 1: we don't have the best defensive player in the world
- 43:46Speaker 1: back yet, William Saliba. He's not playing just yet, or
- 43:49Speaker 1: in Europe at least. The best player is not back.
- 43:53Speaker 1: But Esri Konca has filled that role very well. Mascaro
- 43:56Speaker 1: is not even playing right now, obviously. We probably should
- 43:59Speaker 1: have a Champions League if it wasn't for mascara, but
- 44:03Speaker 1: if we, if, and Gabrielle missing penalty, we get it.
- 44:06Speaker 2: And, but Gabrielle looked amazing in this one. He was
- 44:10Speaker 2: all over the pitch.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Ricardo Calafiri, in my opinion, is playing like the best
- 44:13Speaker 1: left back in the entire world in this moment. And
- 44:16Speaker 1: based off what he's able to do running up and
- 44:18Speaker 1: down the field, just in all facets of football. And
- 44:21Speaker 1: then Jurian Timber, When he's on the field, our attack
- 44:24Speaker 1: looks so much better than when Ben White's on the field.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Jurian Timber, his ability to play on the ball, push
- 44:30Speaker 1: the ball into the box, and even create for himself,
- 44:33Speaker 1: and his track-backing play, and just being the great defender
- 44:37Speaker 1: that he is, he does everything.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Wrap that all up with.
- 44:41Speaker 1: Still having Nkapieh, who was hurt in this one as well,
- 44:45Speaker 1: and then our midfield. Bruno G, Martin Oligard. Declan Rice,
- 44:50Speaker 1: Myles Lewis-Skelly, Mikel Mourinho, Ebrecha Eze when he is playing
- 44:54Speaker 1: that 10 spot, and Martin Zubimendi. Arguably, I think we
- 44:58Speaker 1: have the best depth when it comes to the midfield
- 45:02Speaker 1: and the defense. And I think when you can control
- 45:04Speaker 1: the trenches, you're going to be in games and you're
- 45:07Speaker 1: going to walk away with a lot of Ws. And
- 45:09Speaker 1: I think in this one, it showed our class above
- 45:12Speaker 1: the rest when it comes to those certain positions, which
- 45:14Speaker 1: makes me very satisfied. And obviously where we need to
- 45:16Speaker 1: improve is the attack. No one is questioning that. I
- 45:20Speaker 1: think if you watch these games, you know Arsenal needs
- 45:23Speaker 1: to have somebody that takes risks. And I think that's
- 45:25Speaker 1: what Noni Madoweke has been providing us. He's not a
- 45:28Speaker 1: world-class player by any means, but he's just good enough
- 45:31Speaker 1: to give us chances right now until January window comes
- 45:35Speaker 1: around and we'll see what type of moves we make.
- 45:37Speaker 2: But as of right now, that's where we need to improve.
- 45:39Speaker 1: But gosh, our midfield and Declan Rice, Martin Odegaard, and
- 45:44Speaker 1: our defense with Gabriel, Esri Kansa, and obviously I think
- 45:48Speaker 1: the best goalie in the world, David Raya. I think
- 45:52Speaker 1: with that group, that nucleus, we're going to compete with
- 45:54Speaker 1: a lot of teams.
- 45:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I think y'all's adversity after the Harry King goal,
- 45:59Speaker 4: you take away the penalty.
- 46:01Speaker 3: This is a 2-1 finish by Arsenal. This is a
- 46:03Speaker 3: big win for them. But obviously penalties aren't going to happen.
- 46:07Speaker 3: It's the love of the game we love.
- 46:10Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, what an adversity
- 46:13Speaker 4: and answer from Arsenal to go down 2-1 and to
- 46:16Speaker 4: respond the way that they did. So this game is
- 46:19Speaker 4: like it ties into the Barca. You can't look at
- 46:22Speaker 4: this game as like, oh, we didn't get the outcome
- 46:24Speaker 4: we wanted. We did draw, but we have to pick
- 46:26Speaker 4: our heads up and we got to go on to
- 46:28Speaker 4: the next game. We expected this game to be, we
- 46:32Speaker 4: expected it to be head to head. So yes, like
- 46:35Speaker 4: you said, y'all have the depth and the depth answered.
- 46:38Speaker 4: It answered the way that you wanted it to. And
- 46:40Speaker 4: like you said, you didn't think.
- 46:41Speaker 3: That y'all were going to, obviously when the game, when
- 46:45Speaker 3: things were happening, But at the end of the day,
- 46:47Speaker 3: it's not what happens when you go down. It's how
- 46:50Speaker 3: you respond. And I think Arsenal responded the way that
- 46:53Speaker 3: they should.
- 46:54Speaker 4: And obviously, they came out and draw the game. So
- 46:57Speaker 4: you can't look at this game, like I said, as
- 47:01Speaker 4: a loss. It is a draw, but you can look
- 47:04Speaker 4: at this as a big win for an Arsenal team
- 47:06Speaker 4: and use it as momentum to carry on to your
- 47:09Speaker 4: future games.
- 47:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess we're about to hit the hour
- 47:14Speaker 1: mark and There's two quick things that I want to
- 47:17Speaker 1: talk about. And in regards to Champions League, and one
- 47:21Speaker 1: team that we're kind of going to hate on for
- 47:23Speaker 1: a second, because, I mean, it's hard because they're playing
- 47:25Speaker 1: really bad. With the Serie A teams, I think Roma,
- 47:29Speaker 1: even though the loss to Real Madrid, they look great. Like,
- 47:32Speaker 1: they just became complacent. They didn't make the right adjustments
- 47:39Speaker 1: to continue their attack on Real Madrid. They lose 3-4.
- 47:43Speaker 1: But they come back this week and dominate. They absolutely
- 47:46Speaker 1: dominate and win 4-0. Inter Milan, down a player, score
- 47:52Speaker 1: an amazing build-up and goal to win 1-0. And then
- 47:55Speaker 1: we see Napoli walk away with a 4-3 win, I think.
- 47:59Speaker 1: I think that was the ultimate score.
- 48:01Speaker 2: Let me check it.
- 48:02Speaker 3: 4-3?
- 48:02Speaker 2: Yeah, 4-3.
- 48:04Speaker 1: And then Como absolutely just obliterate Manchester United. And it
- 48:10Speaker 1: says Fabregas said, I shouldn't have told him to let
- 48:11Speaker 1: up because, man, he gets graced with a goal. But
- 48:15Speaker 1: it was a 4-0 game until Cesc Fabregas gave the
- 48:19Speaker 1: orders to kind of just take it back a notch.
- 48:22Speaker 1: To tell your team to take it back a notch
- 48:23Speaker 1: against a Premier League giant who's.
- 48:28Speaker 2: Pretty bad right now.
- 48:29Speaker 1: But against Manchester United to tell your team to let up.
- 48:34Speaker 2: I think it's good for Serie A.
- 48:35Speaker 1: Obviously, there's some struggles because if we look at Juventus,
- 48:39Speaker 1: they're struggling a little bit right now.
- 48:41Speaker 2: They were winning.
- 48:42Speaker 1: And then they've had a couple bad matchups in Serie A.
- 48:46Speaker 1: But when we look at this in the Champions League
- 48:50Speaker 1: in Europe, at least, they are playing very well. And
- 48:52Speaker 1: so what are your thoughts right now with the Serie
- 48:54Speaker 1: A teams in this Champions League so far? And then
- 48:58Speaker 1: we can get into Como more specifically in.
- 49:00Speaker 3: A little bit after that.
- 49:01Speaker 4: So I think the way that these Serie A teams
- 49:05Speaker 4: played this week, I think it is a huge step
- 49:07Speaker 4: up from what we saw last week. I think it
- 49:09Speaker 4: is a big, big win for the league in general. Obviously,
- 49:13Speaker 4: you mentioned Inter Milan was missing a guy like Lothario Martinez,
- 49:17Speaker 4: who in recent games has kind of been a key,
- 49:20Speaker 4: basically their main... peace and scoring and averaging close to
- 49:25Speaker 4: a base every game from what I've been seeing he's
- 49:28Speaker 4: been that key factor so obviously losing him and being
- 49:31Speaker 4: down zero or being tied 0-0 majority of the game
- 49:34Speaker 4: until that run happened and the goal happened to win
- 49:37Speaker 4: 1-0 you're just looking at an inter Milan team and
- 49:40Speaker 4: you kind of have to look at them as like
- 49:41Speaker 4: what is our identity without Lattaro because we're gonna have
- 49:44Speaker 4: to be without him sometimes but if we're not.
- 49:47Speaker 2: Producing without him absolutely.
- 49:51Speaker 3: So you have to look at it as, like, what
- 49:53Speaker 3: are we going to do going forward?
- 49:55Speaker 4: We can't be relying on these last-minute goals to win
- 50:00Speaker 4: us some games. So let's move on to, obviously, Como.
- 50:05Speaker 4: Nico Paz, what a phenomenal player.
- 50:08Speaker 1: What a guy.
- 50:09Speaker 3: Phenomenal player. I mean, the highlight is there. The highlight
- 50:14Speaker 3: really is there for the kid. He has, obviously, some
- 50:17Speaker 3: growing to do.
- 50:18Speaker 4: But this kid is going to show the world why
- 50:21Speaker 4: he is obviously a prodigy, why he.
- 50:23Speaker 3: Was due to Como to shine better.
- 50:25Speaker 4: Obviously, he couldn't shine at Real Madrid from going from
- 50:28Speaker 4: the academy up to the first team.
- 50:30Speaker 3: But when you put these kinds of players in the light,
- 50:34Speaker 3: they can show you what they can do.
- 50:36Speaker 4: And it's been shown over the years, not only with
- 50:39Speaker 4: Real Madrid, but also with Barca players in general. Laminia
- 50:42Speaker 4: Maul came from Barca's academy. He got thrown into the fire,
- 50:46Speaker 4: and he started shining because he has the technical skills
- 50:49Speaker 4: to do so. There's nothing wrong with that. But Nico Paz,
- 50:53Speaker 4: he's going to be that player. We're going to be
- 50:57Speaker 4: talking about this kid in a couple years, the best
- 51:00Speaker 4: player in the world.
- 51:01Speaker 3: Hands down, I will say it right now. I agree.
- 51:03Speaker 4: You're not getting no debate from me. No debate from you.
- 51:07Speaker 4: So we look at a game like Napoli, a 4-3 finish.
- 51:11Speaker 4: It obviously was one of those games where it's just
- 51:14Speaker 4: high scoring. Goal after goal after goal. I think it's
- 51:17Speaker 4: a win for them in general. I think they could
- 51:19Speaker 4: take this on into the Serie A games. And I
- 51:23Speaker 4: just want to move on to Roma because that's a
- 51:25Speaker 4: team that I want to touch on the most. The play,
- 51:28Speaker 4: the way that they are playing, They played last week
- 51:30Speaker 4: against Real Madrid. They couldn't have looked at that game
- 51:34Speaker 4: as a loss for them. Obviously, Real Madrid came back
- 51:37Speaker 4: and won the game. But you can't look at that
- 51:40Speaker 4: as a loss. Because what did you say this week?
- 51:42Speaker 4: They came to 1-4-0. They took the momentum of what
- 51:45Speaker 4: they had last week and they carried it on to
- 51:47Speaker 4: this week. So I think Roma is just a great
- 51:50Speaker 4: team overall. Obviously, they're in a tough league. cda is
- 51:54Speaker 4: just a tough defensive league.
- 51:55Speaker 1: As far as roma they see they're just like a
- 51:57Speaker 1: goal scoring machine aren't they it's kind of wild because
- 52:00Speaker 1: como and roma played what a week ago a week
- 52:04Speaker 1: or two ago and they drew they were like i
- 52:06Speaker 1: think it was one to one and they were both
- 52:08Speaker 1: weren't scoring but when they come to play these other
- 52:11Speaker 1: teams they're absolutely dominating and malin right now he's on
- 52:15Speaker 1: he's on a run of games because i think he's
- 52:17Speaker 1: i believe he's leading he's one of the top top
- 52:19Speaker 1: three at least in Serie A. I know he was
- 52:21Speaker 1: leading at a certain point in scoring goals. Like, he
- 52:24Speaker 1: is absolutely having a career year, the Dutchman himself. So
- 52:28Speaker 1: I'm proud to see Roma doing that. I just really
- 52:31Speaker 1: want to touch on Como. Gosh, my dude.
- 52:35Speaker 3: Lead it off. Lead it off. I want to hear this.
- 52:37Speaker 3: I want to hear it.
- 52:38Speaker 1: Do you remember a moment where you watch a player
- 52:41Speaker 1: and you say, that's the moment he arrived? That's the
- 52:44Speaker 1: moment where he put his name completely on the map.
- 52:48Speaker 1: And I think we watched that today with Nico Paz. Obviously,
- 52:51Speaker 1: he's been building up. He's gotten praise from Lionel Messi.
- 52:53Speaker 1: We've seen Lionel Messi have his kid in a Como
- 52:56Speaker 1: jersey with Nico Paz on the back because he understands
- 52:59Speaker 1: that who the new number 10 is going to be.
- 53:01Speaker 1: It's going to be Nico Paz for Argentina. I understand
- 53:04Speaker 1: they have great talent. Don't get me wrong. But they're
- 53:08Speaker 1: not Nico Paz. Nico Paz is a unit, dude. He's
- 53:12Speaker 1: built like Jude Bellingham. Obviously, Jude Bellingham hit higher heights faster.
- 53:16Speaker 1: I'm not comparing the two.
- 53:17Speaker 3: But in the.
- 53:18Speaker 1: Style of play, they attribute the same thing. But Nico
- 53:22Speaker 1: Paz is more of a striker. He's more of a
- 53:25Speaker 1: goal scorer than Jude Bellingham is. And Nico Paz right now,
- 53:30Speaker 1: in the summertime, there's going to be a lot of
- 53:32Speaker 1: teams calling. There's going to be a lot of teams
- 53:35Speaker 1: ready to pay that money. I know you want him
- 53:37Speaker 1: to go back.
- 53:37Speaker 5: Home.
- 53:38Speaker 1: I know you want him to go back home. I
- 53:40Speaker 1: know where I want him to go. We'll just have
- 53:41Speaker 1: to see where it goes.
- 53:42Speaker 2: We have more connections, I think, as of right now with.
- 53:46Speaker 4: We both see the free agents and we're like, they're
- 53:49Speaker 4: coming to us.
- 53:50Speaker 3: They have to come to us. It's obviously that mindset.
- 53:53Speaker 3: But we.
- 53:55Speaker 2: Continue. Like, my gosh.
- 53:58Speaker 1: He should have had more than one goal in this game.
- 54:01Speaker 1: He was attacking these fools. He walks away ultimately with
- 54:05Speaker 1: a pretty good goal. He should have had two at least.
- 54:07Speaker 1: And then Ramon with the header that when he came
- 54:11Speaker 1: running into the storming into the box and boom, just
- 54:14Speaker 1: sent it in there. Another Real Madrid guy who I
- 54:17Speaker 1: wonder where he's going to go. There's going to be
- 54:19Speaker 1: a lot of teams calling for him as well. And
- 54:20Speaker 1: Lucas da Cunha. I don't think he gets enough praise
- 54:23Speaker 1: because what he's been doing in that midfield where even
- 54:26Speaker 1: Zizou himself is literally saying this guy's the truth. That
- 54:31Speaker 1: Como has done an amazing job developing him because they
- 54:34Speaker 1: bought him for $ 100, 000 from the the fourth division in
- 54:39Speaker 1: Serie A, I believe. And now he's in the running
- 54:42Speaker 1: to be a starter for his country and the captain
- 54:45Speaker 1: for his club, who in their infancy, in their debut
- 54:48Speaker 1: in the Champions League, has really, has beaten RB Leipzig,
- 54:52Speaker 1: has took in the fight to Manchester United and absolutely
- 54:56Speaker 1: humiliated them.
- 54:57Speaker 2: A Premier League giant got humiliated.
- 54:59Speaker 1: By a club who just recently got promoted to Serie
- 55:04Speaker 1: A in 2024.
- 55:05Speaker 2: Let that sink in.
- 55:06Speaker 1: A club that was promoted in 2024 just beat Manchester
- 55:09Speaker 1: United 4-1. Behind the back of Nico Paz, who's going
- 55:16Speaker 1: to make some noise.
- 55:17Speaker 2: And his moment is now and in the summertime.
- 55:21Speaker 1: You know, Como could just really say, no, we're going
- 55:24Speaker 1: to just win every Serie A title for the next
- 55:26Speaker 1: couple of seasons because these guys are all very young.
- 55:29Speaker 1: But obviously, when the money talks, the money talks. And
- 55:32Speaker 1: in Serie A, they're really short of money right now.
- 55:34Speaker 1: So they really need that money coming in. And I
- 55:36Speaker 1: know that if they have recruited this team, they definitely
- 55:39Speaker 1: are recruiting a lot more players to come through and
- 55:41Speaker 1: really keep this thing on the train.
- 55:44Speaker 2: There's a reason why T.R.
- 55:45Speaker 1: Unri is part of the ownership group, why Cesc Fabregas
- 55:47Speaker 1: is also part of the ownership group, because they know
- 55:50Speaker 1: what type of style they want to bring in.
- 55:52Speaker 2: And Cesc Fabregas as well.
- 55:54Speaker 1: I think he's going to be another guy in the
- 55:55Speaker 1: summertime where a couple of these jobs open up A
- 55:59Speaker 1: couple of teams are going to be calling. If Chelsea
- 56:01Speaker 1: somehow misses out on the top four in Champions League,
- 56:05Speaker 1: there might be a calling for.
- 56:07Speaker 2: Cesc Fabregas or even the club we're about to talk
- 56:09Speaker 2: about right now, Manchester United. There might be a calling
- 56:13Speaker 2: for him as well to come be the manager of
- 56:15Speaker 2: that club, which I don't know.
- 56:16Speaker 1: We'll see what his decision ends up being. But Manchester United,
- 56:21Speaker 1: Michael Kerr has got to go. I think it's time.
- 56:24Speaker 1: You can't lose like that, dude.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Austin, I don't know how you feel about it. But
- 56:28Speaker 2: you just cannot lose like this. And the way you've
- 56:32Speaker 2: been losing, by the way. Their only win has been
- 56:35Speaker 2: against Ipswich this season.
- 56:38Speaker 3: Ipswich.
- 56:39Speaker 2: Ipswich is about to get relegated. Their only win is
- 56:42Speaker 2: against that team. And they've drawn.
- 56:45Speaker 3: They've lost.
- 56:46Speaker 1: They got beat today. It's just not looking very good.
- 56:49Speaker 1: And I think to me, honestly, I know you're probably
- 56:51Speaker 1: going to agree with me. Bruno Fernandes' ego to go
- 56:55Speaker 1: up there and say... that Michael Carrick didn't make the adjustments.
- 57:01Speaker 1: You didn't make the adjustments as well. You got beat.
- 57:04Speaker 1: The ball was getting taken off you multiple times in
- 57:07Speaker 1: this game. You were getting bullied out there by a
- 57:10Speaker 1: bunch of youngsters, by a bunch of prospects.
- 57:13Speaker 2: You were getting bullied out there by these guys. They
- 57:15Speaker 2: wanted it more than you did. And every time the
- 57:17Speaker 2: ball got taken off of you, you know what Bruno
- 57:20Speaker 2: Fernandes did?
- 57:22Speaker 1: I can tell you what he did not do. He
- 57:23Speaker 1: did not go fight for the ball back. He did
- 57:25Speaker 1: not track back. He did not go put his body
- 57:28Speaker 1: on the line for his club. What he did was
- 57:31Speaker 1: look at the ref and complain, complain, complain, whine, throw
- 57:35Speaker 1: his hands up in the air. And he's had multiple
- 57:37Speaker 1: opportunities with big time players to make something happen at
- 57:41Speaker 1: Manchester United. There has to be a point in time
- 57:44Speaker 1: where we have to look at Bruno Fernandes and say,
- 57:47Speaker 1: maybe you're the problem on this pitch. Maybe you're the
- 57:49Speaker 1: kind of leader that people do not follow. Because Portugal,
- 57:53Speaker 1: we had high hopes. I remember telling you in the
- 57:55Speaker 1: World Cup, Portugal, they have the team of players, but
- 58:00Speaker 1: they're playing like individuals. And I think it stems from
- 58:03Speaker 1: a guy like Bruno Fernandes, where he's more of an
- 58:05Speaker 1: individual player.
- 58:07Speaker 2: And he was crowned the Premier League Player of the Year.
- 58:12Speaker 1: It should have been Declan Rice because if Declan Rice
- 58:14Speaker 1: is playing on this Manchester United team, I guarantee you
- 58:17Speaker 1: they do not lose 4-1. I guarantee you that the
- 58:19Speaker 1: boys are running up and down this pitch because when
- 58:22Speaker 1: your leader is being lazy and whining, the rest of
- 58:25Speaker 1: the team is going to be lazy and whining.
- 58:27Speaker 2: And I think leadership from top to.
- 58:29Speaker 1: Bottom is lacking because you just saw, I just forgot,
- 58:33Speaker 1: who just literally complained about Manchester United? freaking Martinez was
- 58:38Speaker 1: it it was Martinez right yeah Lissandra Martinez yeah Lissandra.
- 58:41Speaker 3: Martinez came out of the office.
- 58:43Speaker 1: And bashed the club he bashed the club you have
- 58:46Speaker 1: guys within the locker room who do not even want
- 58:48Speaker 1: to be there right now and they're being forced to
- 58:51Speaker 1: go apologize this this club right now sir Alex Ferguson
- 58:57Speaker 1: dude it has not been it has not been good
- 58:59Speaker 1: since then we're being honest it's been I don't know
- 59:03Speaker 1: a decade or more since we've actually seen Manchester United
- 59:07Speaker 1: Do something.
- 59:08Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Where do I even begin with Bruno?
- 59:12Speaker 4: Tagging into the World Cup, we went into this World
- 59:15Speaker 4: Cup as a nation, Portugal, just looking at this midfield
- 59:18Speaker 4: and being like, this is arguably the best midfield in
- 59:21Speaker 4: this tournament.
- 59:22Speaker 3: And Virginia, Bruno, and you had Juan Neves on the
- 59:26Speaker 3: other side. So.
- 59:27Speaker 4: When you look at their resume in the World Cup,
- 59:30Speaker 4: you're like, where's the chances created? Where's this creativity that
- 59:34Speaker 4: we're used to seeing from these three individuals at their club?
- 59:38Speaker 3: And some can be saying that it may be an
- 59:41Speaker 3: ego thing.
- 59:42Speaker 4: It may be an internal disrespect for Cristiano Ronaldo because
- 59:47Speaker 4: there was just so many arguments.
- 59:49Speaker 3: Even Joao Neves, there was drama with him going into that.
- 59:53Speaker 4: I believe the Uzbekistan game of his girlfriend mentioning something online,
- 59:59Speaker 4: there was just drama, drama, drama. But when you look
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: at it, was it really more than what we thought?
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: Bruno, he's not a leader. He's not.
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: I could stand by that and it's showing now and
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: people are starting to realize it.
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: Bruno is not a leader.
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: And we will see, mark my words now, we will
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: see it when Cristiano Ronaldo leaves. Bruno will be appointed captain,
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: the captain's badge. And we will see this Portugal team struggle.
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: We will see the creativity start to die down because Portugal,
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: you can't look at their games without Cristiano Ronaldo.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: Let's take this back to March when they played Mexico.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: Portugal was a heavy favorite in this game against Mexico.
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: Mexico, yes, they may have had the home field advantage,
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: but it wasn't really home field advantage. They weren't playing
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: at the Estadio Azteca. They were playing at some random
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: stadium in a friendly match. And this Portugal team struggled
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: to make chances. They struggled in the midfield. They struggled defensively.
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: Mexico was creating chances, but the game finished 0-0. So
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: you can't look at this team... and say, well, it's
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: just a team altogether. I look at it, it's the midfield.
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: The midfield was not creating chances that they should.
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: And like you said, Bruno, he won the player of
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: the league last year, and it was mainly for his
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: assist because he broke the assist record.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: That was what it was.
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: So you go into the World Cup, and you're like, oh,
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: we're going to see all these creative chances.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: We're going to see creativity with this whole Portugal team.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: It was just not there.
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: It was an individual, like you mentioned. So obviously, we
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: just didn't see that same Bruno. And it's starting to
- 1:01:48Speaker 4: trickle into the champions. It started to trickle into the
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: Premier League. And like he said in an interview, I
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: believe recently, Manchester United likes to live in the past.
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: It's not that they like to live in the past.
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: These players are just not performing the way that they should.
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: It's obviously been shown over the years because when have
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: we last seen Manchester United win the league?
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: When have we last seen them make a name for
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: themselves in the Champions League? It's been a minute.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: This is the worst start in their history. This is
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: the worst start in the history of Manchester United in
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: a long time.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: Like you said, it hasn't been the same since Sir
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: Alexander Ferguson.
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: Ever since he had his baby boy in Cristiano Ronaldo
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: come to the team and take.
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: It over the way that he did. And Wayne Rooney.
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: coming in to Manchester United and creating the chances that
- 1:02:36Speaker 4: he did success.
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: So it's just been a while.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: You think David Beckham, you think Cristiano Ronaldo, you think
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: Wayne Rooney, you think Roy Keane, you think Roy Keane
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: allows this to happen today. You think Roy Keane allows
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: this to happen today. He's taking bodies before he lets
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: 21 year old Nico Paz score two goals on him.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: And not even just goals where he just literally ran
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: the field and just bullied you. You know, like, you
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: think Roy Keane is allowing that to happen. There's no
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: fight from this team. Like, there's no fight. They're not
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: playing with fight.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: There's no heart.
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: There's no discipline and accountability when it comes to their play.
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: Because instead of these players looking at their play and
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: being like, I have to do better, you have guys
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: like Lesandro Martinez and Bruno bringing the front office. That
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: is the sign of a player who doesn't like to
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: take accountability for his things and stand on his performance.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: He believes that.
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: His performance was well enough to his expectations, but it
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: just doesn't show. From obviously a fan's perspective, we're seeing
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: what he doesn't see. He may come after the game
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: and be like, well, I think I performed well, but
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: we're seeing, well, you did this wrong. You created this.
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: You didn't create chances. So a guy like Bruno to
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: go and complain and obviously claim that he's a leader,
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: it's obviously, I would say, it's just coward movements from
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: a so-called leader. So I will stand on it that Bruno,
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: he's just not a leader. And I think, like I said,
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: mark my words, when he is given the captain's badge
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: after Cristiano Ronaldo retires, this Portugal team won't be known.
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: They won't be known as a top five team in
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: the world. They won't be known as a top ten
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: team in the world. This Portugal team will struggle with
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: him with the captain's badge, and this United team will
- 1:04:23Speaker 4: continue to struggle if he is appointed your so-called leader.
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: I think that's a good place to end it. I
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: just think of, real quick before we go, I just
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: think of Arsenal, right? We got Martin Odegaard. We got
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Declan Rice.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: But we often forget the captain of Brazil, the former
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: captain of Newcastle United, Bruno G, arguably.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Better than Bruno Fernandes. Arguably better than Bruno Fernandes. Arguably
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: a top 10 midfielder in the entire world. You can
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: even put him higher. Just based on some of the
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: things that he does. Is willing to come off the bench.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: for a 19-year-old Miles Lewis Skelly at times. Willing to
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: take a backseat to Declan Rice. Willing to take a backseat.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: To Martin Odegaard.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Because he's a leader. Because he wants to win. Because
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: he's willing to do the dirty work that it takes
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: to win. He's willing to be that guy that comes
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: off the bench and creates a spark and offers opportunity
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: for wins.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: We have six points in this season because of Bruno G.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: Bruno G doesn't allow this to happen today. Like, I'm
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: just saying, there's levels to a leadership. There's levels to sacrifice.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: And It's not happening for Bruno Fernandes. Well, I think
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: this was a good first pod from you, Austin. I
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: think that we got a lot covered. We got a
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: lot to talk about. We got a lot of people
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: thinking if they do listen to this podcast. I think
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: they're going to have a lot to think about, especially
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: with the Real Madrid situation and the Erling Haaland, now
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: Manchester United.
- 1:05:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess one thing, we have a big matchup
- 1:05:49Speaker 4: coming this Sunday. As a Real Madrid fan, we have
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: Classical coming up. Just a little preview. We will be
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: with Albini. There's going to be, obviously, adjustments that have
- 1:05:58Speaker 4: to be made to find the success of a formation
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: that needs to be the subs. I believe the rumor
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: going around is Fedde will be at the right wing,
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: and we will start Dumfries at the right back position.
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: But I believe if we start Ara Goulet, I think
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: he will be that player that will create those chances
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: for us. Just a big game coming up this Sunday.
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: Classico is always a great.
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: One to watch. It's always a great one to tune into.
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: It's always the most viewed game. So it's going to be,
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: I believe it's on ESPN this Sunday.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: What's your score prediction for El Clasico?
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: My heart says 2-1, no, maybe 3-2 Real Madrid. But
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: my mind, statistically, I believe it's a 3-1, just Barca win.
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: But I would really love for a Real Madrid win.
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: What a big win that would be for us for
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: a La Liga competition. Yeah.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: I think that would do a lot of confidence for
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: Real Madrid, especially because they're trying to work their way
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: back up the table. And I think Barca also has
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder after this last game. It's
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: going to be a fun one. I'm really excited to
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: watch it. I am definitely going to watch it. And then, yeah,
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: I just want to see some, I just want to
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: see a classic. It's called El Clasico for a reason.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: I want to see Laminia Malm take over this game.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: I want to see Kylian Mbappe without, obviously, Vinicius Jr.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: really take over this game. I want to see Rodri say,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: you should have paid me money. Y'all should have paid
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: me the money. I want to see that. I want
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: to see that happen. I want to see some, some
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: goats just take over the game. And it's just one
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: that where we can just think back 20 years from
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: now and be like, do you remember when Laminia did this?
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: Do you remember when Mbappe did this? That's something I
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: really want to in, in 2026 in that game. I
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: definitely want, and that's the games we live for, right?
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: The games we live for.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: And so, yeah, so that was, so we're just going
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: to exit. For y'all, thank you for listening to this
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: episode of Inverted Footballers. We'll catch y'all on the next one.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: Hopefully it won't take as long from the first gap
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: to this next one. So thank y'all and y'all have
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: a good night.