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NFL Week 16 Christmas Day Slate | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Yah, all system's going clear to lift up. What's up everyone? Tyler
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Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo got a special edition. It is the Monday
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this one? Let's get into it. Yeah, three games slate solid,
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about this and in some solid games, some solid teams, and it all
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kind of comes to a boiling point for the Nikeame the Ravens and the forty
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nine Ers, the two number one seeds in the AFC and the NFC.
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That one's going to be a banger. Forty nine Ers favored by five and
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a half six. I mean, we're recording this on Saturday. Could have
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changed, you know at the time you're listening to this, but shouldn't have
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been by too much. But that's a that's a wild number for two of
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the best teams essentially in the NFL. So looking forward to to breaking down
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credit card information required, nothing like that at all. Hoop, I am
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gonna flip it over. Now, I'm gonna go over to the slate for
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Monday. Here, I just want to see three gamer for Monday. We
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got it. Pop it over here to our partner at the Solver, and
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we've got them all here. Right. So it is a similar setup to
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what I call as you guys all make fun of me for American Thanksgiving because
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I'm Canadian, but I love that day, love that slate. It's very
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similar, right, we have a segmented slate where it's one game, then
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another, then another. Opportunity for late swap and things like that can come
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into effect. But give me your first thoughts on this one, Hoop,
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because I was talking with Mayo about it a little bit on our show the
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other day and we talked through Like again, we know the game at the
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end of the day is the most anticipated. People are talking super Bowl preview
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all these other things. Sure one of those teams will find a way to
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mess it up well before the Super Bowl ever gets there. But even like
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the division games of the other two, and it's the Mahomes, Kelsey's at
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home, it's Hurts and what they've been doing over there at home against the
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Giants team in the fun around Devido. So that's your first take on this
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grand scheme overview. Yeah, I mean, so one piece of news,
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again depends on when you're watching. The two piece of news that are important
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Josh Jacobs questionable, he was a limited participant on Friday, and we're recording
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this on Saturday. Would kind of need that news. And then another piece
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of news that's pretty important I think is the Chiefs running back where McKinnon's questionable
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and Edwards Hilaire and as of Friday, neither of them have practice, so
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it could be a one man backfield in Pacheco, which makes it pretty interesting.
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That game is one Ethan, so it's the first game on the slate,
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so we should have the news at that point. But that's, you
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know, two pieces of information that's very important, and then how you handle
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these potential blowout spots. The Chiefs are favored by ten, the Eagles are
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favored by thirteen and a half. It's one of those class for the Eagles.
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It's one of those classic just bounce back spots. And we've talked about
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these spots all season long. Eagles coming off I believe three losses in a
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row. This just is this is the get right spot. I mean,
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unfortunately for the Giants, the Eagles are gonna be hungry and they're gonna want
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to right the ship. So I think it's a really really bad spot for
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the Giants, which we'll talk about when we get to that game. That
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position, and then you know, it all culminates with that Ravens forty nine
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ers game where a lot of people are gonna want to be on that one.
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But the problem is on the Ravens side, It's like, man,
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they're always going to be a tough team to look to get exposure to because
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it's you know, Lamar Jackson, a few different running backs that can get
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the ball. You know, Ey Flowers, Are you excited to play him?
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Odell Beckham likely that sort of thing. So I think when it's all
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said and done, I mean, it's gonna be a lot of forty nine
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ers that people end up getting to. But we'll see, you know,
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we'll break it all down. Yeah, just looking at our projections and stuff
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too. We're gonna go position by position because then we can talk through kind
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of how it relates to the slate, Like you mentioned it right here.
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When you've got Jalen Hurts at seventy six hundred, but Patrick Mahomes one hundred
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bucks less, Lamar Jackson two hundred bucks less, like you just sort of
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by price. I had to buy value. But just to show it,
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that's going to sort of frame things up for how you go about the sligh.
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And then you mentioned it too, obviously if you've got you know,
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McKinnon out or something like that, and then Pacheco is gonna become extremely popular
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and you'll see more Jalen Hurts lineups where you can fit in Pachecko as the
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kcpiece and then do something else there. But one thing I will say,
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hoop, and just to segue it in, I just don't see how people
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get to Lamar very much here, and maybe even Mahomes. I always say,
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never Mahomes. That's the main slate thing. Obviously, when we get
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shorter slates, it's kind of intriguing. But look at the value. This
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is no different anywhere you go around the industry. Hurts is gonna pop for
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good reason like crazy. He gets those one yard touchdown pushes and jobs whatever
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you want to call it. But Purdy is another good value and he's below
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all of them. So it really does look like it's gonna be Hurts,
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Purdy, nothing really on these bottom two guys. And then I guess Mahomes
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and Lamar will get some because it gets spread out, but they would have
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to be squeezed at least a little bit. Here. You would think,
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what's your take on this quarterback position? Hey, I think Lamar gets squeezed
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a lot because it's like, again for the reasons I just mentioned, like
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who do you want to play him with? It's just not comfortable and people
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are gonna want to pair with their quarterbacks. It's just not a comfortable pairing
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wherever you look. I mean it's you know, Zay Flowers, Odell.
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The natural pairing will be Isaiah likely, but he's the one that gets squeezed
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the most, just because of how people want to build their teams. You
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know, the one thing that definitely stands out to me is you probably need
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a big boy score from this position today. You have four guys I think
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they can get up there. You have Hurts, you have Mahomes, you
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have Lamar Jackson, you have Brock Purty. So you're gonna need You're gonna
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need a score. You're gonna need probably twenty five plus out of this position
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uh to be enough to get the job done. You know, Patrick Mahomes,
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I think there is a case to be made for him today in the
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slave. But still, even if you want the twenty five, you just
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hasn't gotten it done. And they have a check go back and they're favored
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by ten. So you know, for me, there's two clear plays at
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the position that I want to get really overweight on, you know, Hurts
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and Purty. This is a slate where I just don't play those chief guys.
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To be honest, They'll get a little they'll be low on, but
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they will get a little bit of ownership. But in my head, if
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I think they can't be the guy, I'm crossing off a big chunk of
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teams that will play those guys because a three game slate they will get some
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ownership. But I think this is a slate where at quarterback you need the
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big boy scorers. So I'm gonna focus on the guys that can get those
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big boy scorers. And I think Lamar Jackson's the lowest zoned. I think
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Jalen Hurts is the highest zone. But to me, man, this is
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a spot I think the Eagles put up a big number and they just beat
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the shit on the giants on the slate on the sly. Yeah, so
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sure, that's a good call there, I think one of the other two.
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We always do it when we go, when we do the position by
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position for the shorter slates. I like it because you can get slate dynamics
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as well. Look like at running Back. Of course we're gonna get to
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McCaffrey when we get there in a second, but just after that, price
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drops off a cliff and it's not like I think people are gonna be super
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interested in a guy like Barkley when they're going up for McCaffrey or down for
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Pacheco or Swift or some of those other guys. You go to wide receiver,
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it's aj Brown. You can fit Deebo kind of in there by,
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like Devonte at seventy three hundred, like everyone here, very affordable and there's
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cheap options to go to as well. Kelsey then falls off a cliff defense
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always cheap eagles being the most expensive, so you can easily fit to your
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original point where I'm going with this. On the Aidan o'connells and Tommy Debidos,
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it's not like they get you a whole lot more. Then you can
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just get those points at another position, and you probably need, like you
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said, the twenty five to twenty eight plus maybe thirty plus points out of
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these guys. The interesting point was the never Mahomes one is he didn't get
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it back here against the Chargers, but beside that, not very many over
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twenty one at all. So it just has not been the case. And
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there is some interesting points to this on these two guys here, because with
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Mahomes and Lamar, they're squeezed in between the other two good plays like you
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talked about Hurtz and Purdy. Forget these guys at the bottom for a second.
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Mahomes, if Pacheco becomes the guy, which could happen with these injuries
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and stuff like that, the Patsic attack with Kansas City is actually the leverage
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and wouldn't surprise anyone if Mahomes comes out and has a big game on Christmas
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Day during the holiday season while everybody's watching from home all that stuff, you
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could definitely see that. So I don't care as much about the box stores
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and the never Mahome stuff that I always say, because it's hard to get
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him right. It's a three game slate. It's hard to get Lamar right.
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What do you pick it? Say, Flowers Bateman likely Beckham Junior like
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some of those running bit hard to get him right hurts. You could still
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make the case there's multiple running backs, there's lots of receivers, tight ends
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things. It's still tougher. And then Perty is the one you feel safer
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with. But it's expensive. CMC Debo ayuk All. I believe over seven
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k on this sixty seven hundred you get as cheap as for Auk. Yes,
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Kittle is fifty five hundred, but for the position that's the second highest
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there. So I think these guys get squeezed a little. Also, one
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last thing I'll say, Lamar Jackson versus NFC teams has actually been a thing.
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He's been showing up. I said it on our earlier show this week
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when we did the two games slate for Saturday. I actually like the Ravens
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plus six here, and it's not just the Homer effect that being a Ravens
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fan, I think this is when the Ravens show up, and then I
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think they'll disappear later on. I've been here too many times to see this
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happen, so I think it's gonna be a thing where they're in the game,
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they're involved, they're ahead, and it's whatever Brock Purty does down the
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stretch to get him back in it if he can. If not, Ravens
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win, they claim it they're the spot, and then they fail later on
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in the season. That's just how I've seen it play out. But anything
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else you want to add at the quarterback position based on any of that stuff,
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I really just am interested in those top four. If I had to
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pick a cheap guy, it would be de Veto just for the stack options.
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But I don't really love those two cheap guys at all. Yeah,
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Yeah, it's good just going to be the main guys for me. Again,
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I think you need a big score. You have four guys that can
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put up the big scores at varying ownership. Again, it's gonna be Hurts
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and Purty that get the ownership. But yeah, I definitely want to try
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to get some homes and Lamar Jackson as well. And at this point,
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you know, still a couple of days, I'll likely just be full fading
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the other two. Yeah, And I can see where that comes from.
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I think the other thing too, is like you say like, okay,
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I guess with Aidan O'Connell real quick, and then we're gonna go to this
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running back position that you can say, okay, Adams would drag them along.
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It just hasn't been there, so it's tough to really see that you
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could still get a piece of these guys through their place. Like you could
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play at DeVante Adams here if you want at seventy three hundred as a one
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off, hope that he collects eight for eighty, and if he doesn't get
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in the box, that's still pretty good score eight for eighty at seventy three
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hundred. You could get away with that some of the other guys as well.
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But like the Slaton's and Wandale's, I think even if you said,
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like, well, I'll just stack up to Veto with Wandale and Slaton and
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I can fit whoever I want, well, true, what do you think
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all those lineups look like anyway? And then not only do you need that
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to happen, you need the other big boy quarterbacks to fail, You need
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the other stuff to come through for you, and you need to somehow get
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unique on this slate as well, which is a shorter slate. So I
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just don't see it personally for me. For there, let's move on.
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Let's go to these running backs, and it starts at the top, very
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obvious with Christian McCaffrey. We watched him put up those twenty to I mean,
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shit, if you want to go back to it or who McCaffrey's like
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what we could say about mahomes at the previous position, it was a bunch
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of twenties. You're like, he's gonna have that big boy game soon,
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and then last week he had it forty four point seven, absolutely crushed ninety
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five hundred. But we already did the dynamics of the slate. We're still
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very affordable at this price. Tagg, talk to me about CMC where he
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stands for you on this slate, and then other running backs that you might
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like on a three game slate. I mean, you just got to take
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your twenty with the forty point upside and find a way to make it work
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and as many lineups as possible. Now it could be challenging on the slate.
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I haven't built teams at this point, but we are lacking value and
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I just ran one hundred and fifty same setup you have here on the solver
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with the ship and nation projections. And what happens when you just naturally run
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these teams is you do get the high end quarterbacks, you do get McCaffrey,
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and then you get to wide receiver. Take a guess what is doing
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at wide receiver. You're playing a bunch of cheap ass dudes. You're playing
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a bunch of cheap guys and taking a ton of risk. That's how a
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lot of people will be building their teams. A high end quarterback, Christian
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McCaffrey and a bunch of punt wide receivers. So that is going to be
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the popular type build. But man, I just got it. I have
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to be on McCaffrey in a big way. I mean, it's just on
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a three game slate, his workload, they're not mixing anyone else. And
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this is a game they're gonna it's a statement game for him. They're gonna
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want to win this. So many different ways to get there. You can
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get there with the touchdowns, you can get there with the receptions. You
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can get there if they're in the lead, he can get there if they're
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trailing. Just a full proof play in on him in a big way.
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Now, Pacheco would would get would be the number two guy. If McKinnon
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and ceh are ruled out, He's probably the number two guy regardless. One
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guy though, that I do want exposure to is DeAndre Swift. I want
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to be on the Eagles in a big, big way today. I think
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that they're on the late. I think the Eagles take care of business against
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the Giants. I think they put up a big voice. Score want to
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be in on him, and then we got to see on Josh Jacobs if
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he is out. You know, Zamir White at five K, it's not
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a cheap cheap price tag. I mean, at five K, still got
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to go out there and do something. I mean, he's only fourteen hundred
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dollars cheaper than Pachecko, but he would be a priority play. They used
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him a lot in that last game that Jacob Smiths. He got what seventeen
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carries in full three receptions, So he will be a big part of what
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they do if Jacobs is out. So we need that news and by the
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time you're watching this, we might already have the news, so you can
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you can do what you need to with that information. But McCaffrey, p
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Checko swift, you know, potentially Zamir White. That's kind of where I'm
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looking at this position. Yeah, just real quick note because you said it's
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all bring it up, like again, we're on the running back position.
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Yeah, that's that common build right there. That has to be the common
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build. Yeah, and that's what I'm seeing. So like this is five
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k left. I love McCaffrey too, I do worry. Like I said,
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one thing is Baltimore defense is for real, So that can still lead
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to a ton of checkdowns. I'm not saying like he's getting twe we know
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this, it's could that limit him to that. The challenge is it's still
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hard to go find the points elsewhere and feel safe with them. But I
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guess just to flip this quickly, like this is five k left with three
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positions including the defense. Let me just scrap this for a second and see
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what the next version of like kind of a pay up looks like. And
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I'll go to h likely here and I'll still keep pa checko. I mean,
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what one would you like better? So, like going back to that
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build, I know you probably didn't like memorize it, but it was hurts
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with CNC No, I know exactly what it was. Yeah, and then
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the two Giants guys and Odell Beckham. I mean I need I need Eagles
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exposure. Like if I'm building one team, it has to have okay there,
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Yeah, so you put in swift Okay, yeah, probably the the
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other route still again, like you're it's this will be different though, This
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is going to be different than what people do because McCaffrey's gonna be very,
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very popular, and the natural way to go about doing this is pay up
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at quarterback, pay up at with McCaffrey, and then a bunch of cheap
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wide receivers. So guys like Deebo squeezed a little bit, guys like Ayuk
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squeezed a little bit. They just have to be. I mean, they
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just they just have to be the way the slate's shaping up. And you
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know, Rice, it's the one that's gonna get the ownership at sixty five
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hundred at wide receiver. Yeah. And the other thing about this build is
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as much as I love it, because you know, I love good correlation
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and stuff and stuff that makes sense, like you see Okay Purdy, Samuel
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Ayuk and I'm leveraging CMC. Love it. Running it back instead of a
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cheap Beckham or Bateman or something like that. In our projections. They like
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Beckham. Right now, you can get Likely in there. That's fine,
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not like you'll be you know, low own, just to say it,
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okay, that makes sense, all right, I got a secondary stack in
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there where if I'm not playing Hurts, maybe I get some Swift. The
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Checko's just a quote unquote lock because people like them the spot like that's how
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people view it, not what I'm saying. But people will just plug that
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in because I'm not getting to Mahomes. I'm not getting rice here, so
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it looks like this, but I will say this who This is a lot
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of what ifs and maybe's like oh Purdy with Samuel and Dayuk and it's not
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CMC. Swift needs to come through. But what about Hurts when you get
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to that one yardline Pachecko, but he's super chalk. There's other places that
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you can go. Wandale typically just a PPR safety type guy like like,
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again, this is a lot of maybe's more than likely's. If you will
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so I don't know. The other lineup has a lot more safety to it,
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but also feels like you're you're risking a lot less as long as your
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little your wide receivers get their cheap PPR points. But some of them are
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even carrying over to be the same thing, So I do agree with you
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on that as far as the rest of the position goes, like Barkley is
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for sure getting squeezed here like to nothing because Pachecko Swift when they're not playing
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hurts or even with hurts McCaffrey obvious, Gus Edwards, I don't really love
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the matchup, but obviously when you have a guy like Keaton Mitchell who sucks
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to say but obviously out for the season with that injury, hate to see
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that, but you know, you get a guy like Gaz Edward's maybe more
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like a FanDuel spot. Obviously, touchdowns still count and are good are in
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play here on DraftKings, but like he could get uh you know, on
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ground and pound type style here and just when they get close, he ends
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up getting a couple of touchdowns. Again, don't feel safe about it,
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but could happen. After that though, things just drop off a clip.
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I guess. One last take is I think Jacobs was back at practice or
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is expected to be, and they think that he's gonna be Okay, Well,
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we'll wait and see. But if Jacobs is in at sixty three hundred,
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where are you standing with him? Because he's one hundred bucks less than
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Pachecko on the opposite side of that game. Yeah, I think I preferred
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Pachecko and Swift. To be honest with you, I just I have to
20:41
get I have to get Eagles exposure. We'll talk about it when we get
20:44
to wide receiver. It's gonna be tough, like AJ Brown's eighty five hundred.
20:47
Like, if you want to play a J Brown like, you're probably
20:48
if you're playing Hurts and AJ Brown, you're probably out on a guy like
20:52
McCaffrey. It's it's gonna be hard. Yeah, if you put him in,
20:56
yeah, you're not. You can't do it. So it's uh a
20:59
J. Brown was gonna get squeezed. I want to find a way to
21:02
get the guy like AJ Brown. I want all these Eagles guys again.
21:04
I think they put up a big score. I think they put up a
21:07
really big score against the Giants. So if I have to make sacrifices elsewhere,
21:11
that's fine, But I don't anticipate it in a lot of Josh Jacobs
21:15
regardless, what about one more thing, not the I mean the running joke
21:18
is obviously Boston Scott versus the giants he just crushes. Can't really get to
21:22
that. The guys can getting no work. If they just do it to
21:23
troll, then fine, But there has been at least a little bit of
21:27
work there for game well throughout he's had some of these temps. I just
21:30
don't know if it's enough. Yeah, just tough with these prices, man,
21:33
Like they just don't bring down these running backs enough, Like he should
21:37
be like four K. I would have loved if they put him at like
21:40
thirty seven hundred or something where he probably should be on the slate, like
21:44
add some add some appeal to these backup running backs, especially on these smaller
21:48
slates, like bring it down a little bit because it's you know, he'd
21:52
still be low owned at thirty seven hundred, but I think it would make
21:56
sense, like at forty eight hundred, he's too close to those other dudes.
21:59
He's got to do something. Yeah, And that's the other thing to
22:02
the floor. Now. Obviously, since I was like before last season,
22:03
I think that when they changed it to four K for the minimum price,
22:07
I mean they're not even putting Boston Scott at the minimum price and putting them
22:10
at forty three hundred. So I think some people reach here. I guess,
22:14
you know, to your original point back one position. If I was
22:15
reaching, i'd probably reach more at running back than at quarterback. I just
22:19
think you need one of those top four guys. It's just the way it's
22:22
gonna shake out. But for running back, I'm not gonna do it a
22:25
bunch. But like you said, there's spots where you just can't get to
22:27
it. And the way I'd have to look at it is like, Okay,
22:29
if I want Hurts and aj Brown, plugging and McCaffrey seems impossible.
22:34
Plugging in Swift at least seems possible. But if you want to play for
22:38
like a blowout script or something and they do just go off, I would
22:41
I would be able to say, Okay, maybe I can get to something
22:44
like this to find a little more money. I just I find it really
22:47
challenging there. But that's where I would reach at the running back position,
22:49
where if somehow the Ravens can just slow down McCaffrey while twenty raw points plays
22:56
at nine point five K, if that's all he could get to that could
22:59
be a little bit tougher to see on these winning or optimal lineups where you
23:02
could squeak in some tens or twelves from much cheaper prices because you need the
23:07
scores at these other positions, and wide receiver, which we're about to get
23:10
to, is definitely going to be one of them. When you sort up
23:12
my price, you can see it's aj Brown drops off three guys in the
23:17
sevens, drops off a couple guys in the sixes. But then there's lots
23:21
of options down here that I think people are going to talk themselves into and
23:23
feel comfortable with it based on getting the other safety into their lineup. So
23:27
what are you doing here? Yeah, so the field is going it's going
23:32
to be Rashi, Rice and then a lot of cheap guys. That's what
23:34
everyone's going to be doing. And you know, Rice makes a lot of
23:37
sense. I mean he's clearly building a connection with Patrick Mahomes, which is
23:41
if you're a wide receiver, that's a good spot to be a solid connection
23:45
with a guy like Patrick Mahomes. He's out on the field a ton totally
23:48
totally get it. But for me personally on the side, I gotta find
23:52
a way to get ag I gotta find a way to do it. Maybe
23:55
it is. Maybe it is getting less Christian McCaffrey. I hope it is
24:00
just the twenty fantasy point game. Like you know that there's the real possibility
24:06
McCaffrey goes out and gets twenty and he's not on the optical. So again,
24:10
I haven't built teams, but I know I need to get aj Brown.
24:15
I need to get these forty nine ers pass catchers in in there,
24:18
you know, and I want some Devanta Smith as well. So maybe for
24:22
me it is less Christian McCaffrey. Again, I haven't built teams. We
24:25
will see, but the dynamic of the slate and what people are gonna do
24:29
is spend up at quarterback, play Christian McCaffrey, and then play a bunch
24:33
of cheap wide receivers. So I think one of the best ways to kind
24:37
of leverage that on the slate is to play some of the higher end wide
24:41
receivers. You laid out one perfect example of leverage off McCaffrey by going purty
24:45
in the pass catchers, and then you had you had like likely in there
24:51
or something like that on the on the Baltimore side. So stuff like that
24:55
I think makes a lot of sense on the slate. You know, anytime
24:57
you know what the doing, which you know at this point, I feel
25:02
very confident in spend up at quarterback, spend up at at on McCaffrey and
25:07
then cheap wide receivers. You know the leverage points. So sign me up
25:11
for aj Brown, Debo a Devanta Smith at this position, you know,
25:15
getting over the field on all those guys. Yeah, just real quick,
25:18
just showed people again this is our partner. You can do is other optimizer
25:22
as well, but just to bring it up the obviously, I know some
25:23
people just like, oh, I'll just ex them out and see what happens
25:26
or whatever. You can just do your sets or however you build by adjustments,
25:30
Like you could either just tone them down some with the boost down.
25:33
But I just changed McCaffrey to nineteen. Just said, okay, doesn't quite
25:37
get to tweet gets to twenty but doesn't break it. What does that do?
25:40
Well, now put some number five on the list and drop them down,
25:42
but I'll still get a big majority of them in my lineups. I'll
25:45
just now be able to see what lineups do I have that don't have them.
25:48
What do those look like? Because and then you can just swap it
25:51
right back and you're good. You're back. But just to note, who
25:53
like this looks like a common build here too, right, you see like
25:56
a cash game setup that looks pretty good on You're loving this, and then
26:00
you can even throw Pa Checko in here. And once you get one of
26:04
those cheap wide receivers in, You've got Odell, You've got Slayton fits in,
26:10
You've got Justin Watson, you've got Hyatt, some of these guys Baitman.
26:14
You could fit another guy in there. But with the cheaper d which
26:17
is under the average, and two more spots, you can make this lineup
26:19
makes sense too. So I do see where this feels pretty good. And
26:22
when you've got Hurts who could just dominate that quarterback position, McCaffrey who could
26:27
run away with it at running back, Pachecko who could be the only show
26:30
in town, and Rice can still get there with Pacheco. And then you
26:34
just need these cheaper guys to do a few little things, and they're in
26:37
really good spots. Likely still know Matt Mark Andrews went to the ir Don,
26:41
right, so we know how that shaped out Robinson, not like they
26:45
have a bunch of other bodies there, so it's kind of just somebody that
26:47
can rack them up. That's what I was saying earlier. The other builds
26:49
will look good and make sense, and we're gonna take them on myself included.
26:53
I'm gonna be building like that for tournaments. But these builds still have
26:56
a lot more safety, a better projection, and you can still get different
27:00
with construction and certain pieces within it. As far as the other wide receivers
27:06
go, I'm gonna do it by price just to get this angle on it.
27:07
It looks like aj Brown Debo for sure. Both get pretty squeezed because
27:14
I think even this time around, now you're getting Nyouq for a thousand less.
27:17
I think a lot of people would just be happier to drop down to
27:18
him. I think Adams doesn't get much ownership. Zay Flowers, Odell Bateman,
27:23
I like him. In the Lamar builds, I think if Lamar gets
27:26
there, we saw this a couple of years ago in the large field million
27:30
makers wherever. It's all just play naked Lamar or just play Lamar Andrews and
27:33
that's it. But if you want to hit in some of these bigger tournaments.
27:37
I mean, it's a million dollars up top of a huge field that
27:38
you're talking about beating on Monday. You kind of want Lamar to get all
27:42
the way there and in ways that others might not be. So again,
27:45
I don't see how many people are gonna have this build. But if you
27:48
go Lamar and you like Zay and Beckham, you don't play likely. Let's
27:53
say you play George Kittle as a way to get different there. Well,
27:56
now, like Hoop says, you got to get some Philly in there,
28:00
so you get DeAndre Swift and I'll do it differently. I'll do the defense
28:03
here. Look at that, I still got six nice second squad. Yeah,
28:07
real nice squad. But but again, how comfortable do you feel,
28:10
say Flowers nodel back and you're like yeah, and then Swift has to not
28:14
get vultured. But though, if you're playing, I mean, now that
28:15
you know, you look at this a little bit. If you're going to
28:18
be in on Lamar, Lamar is actually a cheap stack. I mean,
28:21
now now that we're going through and this is you know, essentially kind of
28:23
like a first look. I haven't looked at this slate. Yet, Uh,
28:26
Lamar Jackson is a cheap stack. He's gonna be lower owned than Purdy
28:32
and Herts. Look at his weapons, say Flowers fifty five hundred, Odell
28:37
forty three, and then the likely is super cheap as well. So,
28:41
uh, you know, Lamar Jackson is I think an interesting stack here because
28:47
of the weapons and the price tags of those weapons. Yeah, and look
28:51
at Zay. I mean we've done this. We've played this game before with
28:52
the Drake London's of the world, with the Garrett Wilson's of the world,
28:56
Like don't get any scores on teams with Desmond and Zach Wilson. This is
29:00
Lamar Jackson. You can make fun of him, call him a running back,
29:03
whatever you want to do. It's not the Homer. And he's sitting
29:06
there saying he's great. I'm just telling you he's better than those guys,
29:08
that's for sure. And he can find these guys he already has you go
29:12
to uh to Beckham here and it's not gonna be anything crazy. But look
29:15
at nineteen and eighteen. A sixteen like these will play on this winning.
29:21
That's a winner on the slate like that. That's uh, he does that
29:23
on the slate. You need, you need them, and you need other
29:26
stuff to go your way. But this leaves six k on the table.
29:29
I just want to very quickly do this six k on the table and you
29:33
flip it back around and we go to what we said earlier, and this
29:40
leaves five k. So not only do you pick up a grand that in
29:44
that spot per player, so you're picking up three thousand dollars with the three
29:48
spots left, but you also have what would should be a much lower owned
29:52
lineup because well, yes, Debo might be squeezed a little bit likely,
29:56
Ayuk and Purdy, you're all getting played here more than lamar Zey, Flowers
30:02
and Kittle, right, it just is, and you pick up the money.
30:04
So just flipping the builds doing stuff like that, I think are little
30:07
ways to do it. And yeah, this does not feel super comfortable either,
30:11
but you have to know that like it is possible. I mean literally
30:14
went down at the one last game which led to an earth thing. I
30:17
know, it's insane how often they get it, but to whose point?
30:19
What I try to explain too, whether you like it or not oftentimes doesn't
30:23
matter. This is why people get so confused in dfs like, oh I
30:27
had that, there's no way that matchup could have got there, or this
30:30
guy had this battle, or I didn't expect that. It doesn't even matter,
30:33
it's just your lineup has to tell a story. If I don't have
30:37
Hurts and I don't have aj Brown, and I don't have Goddard and I
30:41
don't have DeVante Smith, but they're gonna score twenty eight points, very likely
30:45
something is wrong with my lineup. So I have to just kind of make
30:48
it make sense and hope that that's the way it gets there and what is
30:51
required. If it's dead and it doesn't work out, it was dead anyways,
30:55
Like the lineup's already in the trash and hopefully within your portfolio there's another
30:57
line up there. If it's a single entry, you took your shot and
31:00
it didn't work, and you move on to the next slate, hopefully it
31:03
was in for an affordable amount for you and less overall, and you get
31:06
the battle back on the next slate. But anything else, so you want
31:08
to talk about who When it comes to wide receivers, we're not really dumpster
31:12
diving here to try and pick it out. If you have some diamond in
31:15
the rough out there that you like, play them, but play them enough
31:18
so that it matters. Don't tell me all. I put Trey Tucker in
31:22
one lineup. Didn't get there though, but at least I got him right.
31:25
That's that's terrible, really, just being honest, Like that strategy,
31:27
you have one chance to get there with a one percent owned guy, and
31:30
then he gets there and the rest of your lineup's dead. If you're gonna
31:33
play someone like that, get your twenty max and get ten to fifteen percent
31:37
of them. Mix them into enough lineup so there's at least something in your
31:40
pool twenty percent, maybe in twenty max for the example, so at least
31:42
they're in four of your lineups. But who any thoughts on like the punt
31:45
plays, dumpster diving in general? Anyone your boy Hunter Renfro, Maybe it's
31:52
anybody here you want to talk about. Yeah, not much. I mean
31:53
the Giants guys, the cheap Giants guys are going to get the ownership.
31:56
But it's a you know, this position, it's very important, Like what
32:00
you do here is very important. And for me, I want to get
32:05
exposure to the Sam Fran guys, and I want to get exposure to the
32:07
Eagles guys. That's gonna be my priority when I come here and build my
32:10
teams. Yeah, one thing I will say, I haven't full Like I'm
32:15
like hoop, I haven't fully built any figure got to this yet. We
32:16
have like three slates ahead of this one to get going here. But when
32:21
I do dumpster dive, one thing I will say, I'll wait on this
32:22
Q tag with Jennings or whatever and stuff like this and Tony, But like,
32:27
I would rather dumpster dive, and even if they do get just a
32:30
little bit more ownership because of this. Yeah, these are big boy scores,
32:34
but he can catch like a sixty yard touchdown, and guess who he's
32:37
attached to. A guy that can absolutely throw a sixty yard touchdown, And
32:40
I can feel very comfortable and safe about that. So I would rather attach
32:45
some of these punt plays to really good quarterbacks that have the arm capability and
32:50
the upside to actually get them there, versus saying, well, I watched
32:52
Jalen Hyatt before and he's had one good game allay, like it could be
32:55
him. Yeah, if it makes sense, put him in and get enough
32:59
of them. But to my main point, I want guys that are attached
33:02
to good quarterbacks, good spots. That's that's my other take. I agree,
33:07
all right, tight end can move on Kelsey. I don't remember his
33:10
exact history, but I feel like it's pretty strong. Wasn't the best first
33:14
game around form only fifteen draftings sports? Realistically, that's been the season.
33:17
We pulled the game log for Mahomes, the game log for Travis Kelcey surprise
33:22
surprise, looks very similar. Right. It's those two kind of have been
33:25
off a little this season. I know everyone had the takes when Taylor Swift
33:29
was at the game. He crushes. I mean, that's went out the
33:30
window pretty quick too, so, but this could be the slate who this
33:35
is a pay down spot for most people on this slate. He's a pay
33:38
up option, very hard to get to if you're going any of those expensive
33:43
quarterbacks like Hurts, Mahomes or that, or with Lamar. But at least
33:47
with Mahomes, you would expect people pair him up. I don't know how
33:51
how popular this would be, but what's your take at at tight end?
33:54
This is another This is almost the same as the Hurts, AJ McCaffrey,
34:00
Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. Different positions, but it's still expensive. Go ahead,
34:05
Yeah, yeah, so the one fifty I rm without changing anything.
34:08
How much Kelsey do you think we get man didn't put anything in there,
34:15
didn't put anything in there. What do you say? Twelve? Yeah?
34:17
Lower zero? I got zero, Travis Kelsey, Which makes me believe what
34:22
are we showing? So we got twenty two? Makes me believe that that
34:25
twenty two is even gonna be a little bit lower than that. The fact
34:29
that if you just brought it naturally, you don't get any of this guy.
34:34
I'm gonna try to get some, Like I don't know, it's hard
34:36
to take a big stance on Kelsey and get like way over the field.
34:40
I want to try to get some, but it really hasn't been there lately,
34:44
like you said, like the connection, the thing with the homes,
34:46
the fact that they're willing to win the ugly games. I just think he
34:51
comes in really low on. So I do want some Kelsey, you know,
34:54
likely Goddard Kittle. Kittle's the guy that I got a tongue. So
34:59
I just ran it and it has shown up in a lot of teams.
35:01
But yeah, I mean I don't have like a strongly and I do want
35:06
Goddard a lot at forty seven. I'm going to continue on with my Eagles
35:08
love. I want every piece of the Eagles offense today. I think they
35:13
go off. You know where does it go? I don't know, So
35:15
I'll just take, you know, solid pieces of all of them. Kittle,
35:19
you know, Kelsey likely interested in all those guys. I'm going to,
35:22
you know, try to get some exposure the top five showing up here
35:27
on the list. Yeah, we'll wait on the Meyer news too. I
35:30
know when May and I looked at this the other day, like we have
35:31
the lineups for Hooper. If you just want to play them at twenty five
35:35
hundred, so be it. But let me ask you this who because this
35:37
is almost identical to the Purdy, Ayuk, Deebo, likely, Swift and
35:44
Eagles. We kept Swift and Eagles, but we swapped the rest and instead
35:49
of Purdy and instead of Ayuk and Deebo with Pacheco, we now have Mahomes.
35:57
Kelsey, you got to drop to Beckham, you got to play Josh
36:00
Jacobs, assuming he's in on the other side. I mean, where are
36:02
you at on this because you'd say, okay, this can leverage those Pacheco
36:06
builds if Pacheco gets super popular. But where where do you stand on something
36:09
like this? That Party one? To me, this looks way better on
36:13
Yeah, I mean this will be a lower owned version for sure, Like
36:16
Kelsey will be low owned. You know, Jacobs will be low owned,
36:21
I think, regardless of you know, his injury designation whenever we get it
36:23
like those, those two are going to be like low owned type options.
36:28
I think Mahomes comes in lower than Hurts and Party. So this is like
36:32
a leverage type lineup that gets you a little bit different for sure. And
36:37
I don't hate it again because I want I want some Kelsey. I think
36:38
Kelsey comes in. I don't know we're showing twenty two. I want to
36:43
be surprised if it's like thirteen or fourteen or something percent on the slate.
36:45
So yeah, these aren't updated yet, so great call on that the way
36:49
to get after it, you talk through tight. I'm pretty good we're gonna
36:52
go to defense in a second. But I do like to show this because
36:53
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37:30
at it, right, eighty three point six and one fifty five, So
37:34
we'll remember that for a second. Eighty three we'll call it eighty four and
37:37
one fifty five, so we don't forget eighty four and one fifty five.
37:43
You got it, Okay, let's go back here. And then I think
37:45
it was Pachecko. What was the difference maker here? Maybe it was one
37:50
more, it wasn't Pacheco, Sorry, it was likely Yeah, And we
37:52
got about the five K eighty four and one fifty five, So just to
37:57
give an idea. While this may feel much better on paper, there is
38:01
more ownership in this line up, so it's definitely more popular build to go
38:06
this route. And the other build with Mahomes and Kelsey, who almost nobody
38:09
is on. We didn't even fit in like a Watson or somebody like that.
38:14
Projects almost identical but at much lower ownership. And just overall you saw
38:19
like there's multiple levers in there of like no Pacheco, but we have the
38:22
passing game, no CMC. We don't even have a San Francisco guy in
38:25
there yet, but there's room to fit one with five thousand left over in
38:29
ways that we can make things work. So just little things like that that
38:31
you're looking at, even when you're just handbuilding. I know everyone thinks Optimizer
38:36
one fifty. Yeah, it's important when you're playing one fifty. You need
38:38
it and it makes your life a lot easier. I think. I know
38:39
there's some people our guy double D, we always give him the shout out
38:43
out there handbuilding in the factory. But for the most part, even when
38:46
you're using it just for a single entry or a quick glance, this little
38:50
titbit of information is just how I do it process wise. Hopefully that helps
38:52
some people out there. I don't have much else to add, hoop,
38:54
but real quick, one last question I have for you and then we'll go
38:58
to defense. How much Dallas got Otter was showing up in that dry run
39:01
and kittleh for percentage? I know you said you were getting more Kittle,
39:05
but how much of each Kittle again not changing anything, came in an eighty
39:08
two percent, So he said eighty two percent of lineups Goddard thirty five and
39:13
those were the top two Goddard Kittle eighty two Goddard thirty five percent. So
39:19
it is it is doing a lot of double tight end teams without changing much.
39:24
Yeah, so it was the Goddard number thirty two or thirty five two
39:30
Kittle thirty five for Goddard. Okay, and yeah, you just brought up
39:34
a good point which people asked on our last two gamer site. It's the
39:36
same on the three gamer. You can definitely play two tight ends. Like
39:39
again, George Hittle is fifty five hundred. That is a way to get
39:43
a piece of that San Francisco offense. That is not ninety five hundred dollars
39:46
for McCaffrey. And again, obviously you want McCaffrey, but would it surprise
39:51
you if McCaffrey had a touchdown and Kittle had a touchdown and Kittle's worth just
39:55
the same for four thousand dollars less. It's definitely possible. So I do
40:00
that call out there. I like that you brought that up. Nothing else
40:01
for me to add their defenses, I mean little things for me who defenses
40:07
against quarterbacks? Fine, three game are definitely possible that that can happen.
40:10
The Ravens d could go up against Purty here, you could have something like
40:15
that. You could have the the Raiders for super cheap up against Mahomes who
40:21
can make a couple of mistakes but still end up winning the game. It
40:23
just doesn't matter for me as much as defenses. But I think we'll see
40:27
people pair up like Swift Eagles, Pacheco Chiefs, things like that. Anything
40:31
else you have to add with defense before we go to the showdown slate.
40:36
No fine with the Raiders. I that's the main point here. Like a
40:39
lot of people avoid the Raiders, but twenty three hundred it gets you into
40:43
a different you know, pricing range. I'd be fine rolling them and yeah,
40:46
Mahomes has made mistakes almost every game this season, so I'm fine with
40:51
that. Yeah, and you got to set up here, these guys are
40:52
still looking at the numbers. They're playing ball. They're playing ball, I
40:55
mean their defense. What's the name that That dude's a freaking maniac. Yeah,
41:00
he's nuts, absolutely nuts. And there was some good stuff obviously.
41:04
The other thing too is remember the Raiders see the Chiefs quite often. Like
41:07
if you watched Quarterback on Netflix, there was even there's even situational stuff they
41:12
were showing on there because Mahomes is one of the featured quarterbacks used in that
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where Max Crosby was talking shit to him. Like just again, they're talking
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as boys too. They respect each other in their own position and within the
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game and what they do. But they have some information. They got some
41:24
tape both ways. So that's why I said these types of games are still
41:29
intriguing even though on paper you see okay, twenty five point seventy five fifteen
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point two five big time favorites for the Chiefs. You think the Raiders don't
41:37
see that too, they watch all this stuff. Shit, we know guys
41:39
are getting a tro Calvin Ridley lost the season for betting on sports. They're
41:43
watching these lines and seeing these things and saying, Okay, we're getting counted
41:45
out. This is like a super Bowl spot for the Raiders to come in
41:49
here, and it could be closer than you think. So I got no
41:51
problem finding stuff like that. Let's swimp over hoop. Let's go to showdown
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Captain mode. We're just gonna do a quick break down for you guys to
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Say Monday Night, I told you it's gonna be an awesome game. I'm
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excited for this one. First off, let me ask you this. I
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asked you on the other show. But now we're live on a different one
42:34
here. How do you what do you actually think if you just had to,
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you know, right now, someone put you up and said you got
42:37
to get this right or you're done. What's the what's the winner? What's
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the score? What? What do you think happens in this game? You
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look at this and if you were to just predict the line without seeing it,
42:50
you probably would most people would say forty nine ers minus three, right,
42:53
I mean somewhere in that range. Well, they're coming in minus five
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and a half minus six, So Vegas and the betting po think they're that
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much better, uh that than the Ravens. I'm gonna lean the forty nine
43:05
ers side here for for sure, easier plays. You know, this is
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a tough one though for for showdown, I will say because the forty nine
43:14
ers, if they win and put up points, Like, so many guys
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have been the guy that you need, you know what I'm saying. It's
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been Purty, It's Ben McCaffrey, it's Ben Deebo, it's Ben Ayuk,
43:24
it's Ben Kittle, Like, there's so many guys that can be the guys
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you almost have to spread it out at captain if you're if you're under the
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mindset that the forty nine ers, you know, win this game. On
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the Baltimore side, it's much more difficult because you know, Lamar Jackson,
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they've had random running backs, pop in, Odell Beckham's had a big games.
43:45
Ay Flowers has had a big game. So you haven't dug super deep
43:49
into this. But my initial lean would probably be to spread it out at
43:52
captain. Yeah, and we just don't have a lot of plays, man,
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Like you go down the list, there's not many cheap plays at all.
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You know, two pretty consolidated teams in terms of what you get.
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So i'd probably you know, initially and would just be spread it out at
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the captain spot. Yeah. And I'd add another thought too, is I
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mean this is funny because we've been making fun I've been making fun of this.
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Not you you play these guys all the time and crush with them,
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but like Jalen Hurts seventeen k plus, Josh Allen seventeen k plus, to
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be honest, at least in those situations, you're like, well, look
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at the game, it's the it's the Bills versus the Chargers. Man,
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or it's like it's hurts versus who did they play the other day? It
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was oh, Seattle. It's like, you know what I mean, they
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should just crush. But I do think there's a chance. Like you said,
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I think more people spread it out, and for good reason. There's
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lots of good options here. Could it be Deebo yes, could it be
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Lamar? Could it be Brock? Could it be Ayuk? All this stuff.
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But McCaffrey is even more. He's pushing eighteen k here. And if
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you're building for the San Francisco Wins builds or Covers builds, if you will,
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I'm more than fine with that, because I think at least his ownership
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will get somewhat kept in check hoop here even at seventeen seven, because of
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price and because of all the other options people believe to be viable, where
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I actually don't think it gets out of hand, so kind of the opposite
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effect of where I am in most of those other games, where I know
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it's just getting super condensed. But if you start with him, you have
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six point five k. Well, go back to our optimizer projections from the
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other spot. You can get away just starting like this, and you still
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have almost seven K left and that's with Likely and Beckham, who the projections
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love, and then you can move it around from there. We've got kickers
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at pretty fair prices here, justin Tucker only fifty two hundred Moody only forty
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six hundred Moody here. I'm just gonna pull up his stuff. I don't
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see the game logs for him, Tucker. Maybe this is the set up
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here. I know our guy Boomer is actually working on these projections as we
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speak, so it kind of kicked me off. But let's see if I
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can do this. It looks like we just got them back, so let's
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see. Yeah, no game logs not showing it, so apologize for that,
45:50
but just to show it. Obviously very affordable to still get to McCaffrey
45:54
on the raven side sixteen to two. I always say never mahomes on main
45:59
slates. I typically never play Lamar Captin on Showdown slates because again, it
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just depends on the game or whoever else is in it at the price and
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all that He did actually just sneak in there last time. But if you
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remember, Isaiah Likely was like one point behind him or something like that.
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It was very close to where he wasn't needed as well, So just to
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bring it up, I think I would take chances on some of the other
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guys like Flowers, likely Beckham. I would feel okay with those guys.
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I like the kittles Ayuk's debos there. Purty can at least spread it around.
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But man, it's one of those games where you'd have to imagine he
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throws for like three or four touchdowns. I personally don't see it against this
46:37
defense. I think we could definitely see a spot where well, two things
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who and then I'll kick back to you. One is definitely see a spot
46:44
where he fails. I was gonna say two is this game might be too
46:46
high. The total might be too high at forty seven. I know,
46:51
like what, Like I thought to your point, if Vegas is right and
46:53
the numbers are right, and it's like, why isn't it three? Well,
46:55
why is that? It's because they probably win. It could be a
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spot where they in like fourteen to seven. I know that sounds wild,
47:01
but it's like, this is where you can see two teams that often put
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up points, that are playing great this season, join battle to go,
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join up to go to battle here in a game like this and instead of
47:12
seeing fireworks with the offense that you've seen all season, you see fireworks with
47:16
the defense, and they both show up in that manner, and you could
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definitely see something like that, right, you could see a seventeen to ten
47:23
type of game. Something a lot. I mean you look at the forty
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nine ers success, I mean a lot of the recent success has been against
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some project. Just wanting to pull this up, it's been against some pretty
47:37
bad teams. Like they beat up on the Cardinals. I guess they beat
47:39
the hell out of the Eagles. Eagles a year. Actually, actually I
47:45
take that back. It's a pretty good team. So yeah, but I
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wouldn't be surprised in terms of the kickers. I pulled it up. H
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Tuckers just twelve twelve, ten, eleven, seven, fourteen, eighty eight,
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nineteen. So like his floor in the last like two months sitting at
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seven, which is huge. Moody not as impressive, just because they score
48:05
so many damn touchdowns he's had. Yeah, I don't like Moody all that
48:08
much now that I look at this. I mean he's had field goal attempts
48:12
one zero zero one two two one one. Like their offense is so effective
48:17
it's hard to trust them. So if you're looking at kickers, definitely Tucker
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over over Moody in my eyes. But I lean on the game script too,
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That's what I'm saying. Like I'm a opposite of you. I don't
48:27
give credit for any of these teams. I think Arizona sucks. I don't
48:29
think Seattle's very good. Actually, Philly, you could say what you will
48:32
about them on the season and probably going to be in the NFC Championship game,
48:37
which might even be against the forty nine ers, But man, they
48:38
got no defense all seedon. They literally just got beat by said team in
48:43
Seattle. Tampa Bay no good, Jacksonville, no good. These guys are
48:45
beating up on bad teams, bad defense. Is this the real deal that
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they're going to go up against now? And I would say that's where you
48:52
could see even though they do like to go for it, as do the
48:54
Ravens. You could see Moody and Tucker battle it out here a little bit
48:59
as well last season, and we did well with that. It has not
49:00
worked very often this season to get these double kicker lineups. Hoop, this
49:04
could absolutely be a spot. Just to lean on that for a final thought.
49:07
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now. Any final takeaways on that Monday night football game there, hoo,
49:36
Yeah, I mean it should be a fun one. I mean to the
49:38
two top teams right now in each conference, definitely looking forward to that.
49:42
The three game slate should be a lot of fun. I mean, prize
49:45
pools are massive, you know. Play within your means though, because this
49:49
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49:53
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50:07
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