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Q&A The 1960s! · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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Welcome back to a hamster with a blunt, penknife questions and
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answers the 60s. Hello.
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Hello. How are you doing?
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Yeah, I'm fine. Thanks, it's nice breakfast.
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Yeah, very good. Thank you.
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And me to is massive today, we're talking about the 1960s.
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Yes, yes, I feel about. I was gonna say, I feel more
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prepared as you sort of sprung. The 70s on me.
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I the 80s. Sea ice from nothing.
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What comes to mind when you think of the 60s?
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Well, obviously black and white. We want all the beginning of the
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series but in general, all the 6th will be flower power.
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Well, I wasn't there. Cilla Black.
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Anyone Who Had a Heart. Would, you know what?
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Yeah sort of a developing time that's right, new technologies
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coming in new Beatles. Everyone was having sex when
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they and doing drugs as well. Know if everybody will also be
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set up like well actually probably was said of lat.
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She was a rabbit I'm telling ya, we're gonna have a Lara Lara sex
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funny but it's true. What loneliness can do?
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You know? I know walking back.
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You have been, there's a Whoopa. Oh yeah.
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Yeah. That's very 1960s.
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But of course the the reason we're here is talk about Doctor
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Who in the 1960s, a pivotal time.
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Well, yeah, I mean that's when it started to get more and, you
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know, it's true. It's true.
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And so, I put out to Twitter with some fabulous pictures.
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I stole from other people's things.
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All about the 96 fingers are going to be careful walk Handful
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of questions about the 60s back on me if we didn't get more
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questions than we did for the aec's.
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So I suppose we better begin. We better jump straight in.
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Okay, so I'm it's really difficult to read all these
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Twitter threads because there's threads within threads within
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thread. So yes dr.
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Are complicated questions. So I'm just we do skip over you.
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It's because Mark and up to untangle the line of red line.
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Twittersphere, yeah of creates, okay, so the first question is
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from Alan Reece to to have TV. Honestly, I've been doing is you
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are you won't believe the moment, listen to every morning.
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Hmm, he's a fabulous. One of the greatest.
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You know, he said it was interminable until the last up
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anyway. So anyway, so his question is,
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how would all of season 4 been--had Hartnell stayed all?
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That's so interesting. That is so interesting because I
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think forever hits the formula does.
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It's not really until five that you do.
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The base Under Siege formula, everything.
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So series for does still feel like sort of William hartnell's
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time. When they were doing all the
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different genres and things back, whatever is nothing like
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faceless ones which is nothing like evil of the Daleks which is
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nothing like the moon base. Do you like the first doctor Ben
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and Polly? Yeah, I do.
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I just they just didn't get that much of a chance.
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Did they did you think they would have rocked?
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It depends is the question, like, are you thinking of season
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four eyes? Exactly those scripts.
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So I think he's saying, are you thinking of heart?
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No in exactly the same condition.
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Is he going to get would have even lasted the rest of the
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season? For if you had stayed?
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I mean, would he be knocked out nearly every week or missing?
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If he was missing more and more different thinker?
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Would you get through seven weeks of evil?
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The Daleks I don't think so. Patricia red.
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I'm not working with this hairy legs Highlander, I can't see him
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with stop trench. I can't see that.
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I believe will make it work and see that at all.
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I think it, I think it could have worked if it was first dr.
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Ben, and Polly, and all of those stories and in maybe even of the
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Daleks, but Nepali leave even a dollar, could be like his
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regeneration story. Yeah.
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What one story from season four? Would you like to see is a
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partner one instead boy every night the one I can't imagine
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him in is the underwater Menace because I seem so tailored for
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trout and being ridiculous when he's wearing those sunglasses
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dress, my physio woman, you know, online shocked, how will
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they get em Edwin Warwick to do that for him?
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Let's instead she can you imagine heart and with the
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Highlanders know, he's like oh hello Irene the old washer
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woman, you know, it's not a story.
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Although that would be a I could probably see him in that does
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dress up, doesn't you'll be a terrorist things?
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Yeah, pair of the Daleks would be brilliant and imagine trying
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to tell people you're stupid people in this Colony.
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Listen to me. I have fought against the Daleks
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a paradise, maybe probably not anymore.
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Hartnell would have been a good thing.
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Yeah, it's just, it's just never a nun and he's got a lot of
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episodes, but it's just never enough.
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We hope we also do questionnaire Dylan.
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Okay, next question. Chris, hogben og really is.
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I don't do it. Okay.
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He says I love 60s who but in your opinion was the series ever
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more experimental than in Season 3, starting in Galaxy for
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finishing with the war machines. So many different tones
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companions leaving dying, never really feeling safe.
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What a journey. Well, how wonderful for you to
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bring up Chris because I agree with you entirely, I do not
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think there is a more More experimental season.
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What do we got? Kind of seafloor, galaxy, galaxy
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Floor. Galaxy stop.
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Don't move. Galaxy for is flawed the Galaxy,
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which is like a very simple morality tale, that you've got
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what mission see unknown very Macho.
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Then the mythmakers which is a very smart sophisticated sort of
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Comedy historical term, come tragedy.
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What if it will say, come Anyway, carry on.
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What do they say that? Okay, thank you.
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What's the thing though? Isn't it?
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Yeah it's a turn of phrase. Yes.
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What did I say? Nay neee.
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I don't know how so this is not a grammar lesson.
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Anyway, then you've got the diet's master plan, which is a
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massive bold science fiction epic, then it's the mascara.
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But sir, Bartholomew XIV huge tragic.
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Historical story. Very dramatic.
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This is the art, which is this mad.
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Science fiction, Caper, but does this reflect all the behind the
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scenes, things going on behind all these different surfaces and
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things changing around because it's their Vision.
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The vision isn't clear of this season started, someone sat down
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and went right season. 3 of Doctor Who we're going to do all
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of these different things. It was like right we've got two
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weeks of this. I'll someone's left.
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Okay, now I'm coming in, I'm doing this and I'm coming in
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doing this and that's what you get as a whole.
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But then I think that's fine. That's like Adventure.
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Alfred it's the effect of Doctor Who spread across the seas.
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Yeah, yeah. Yes.
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It's amazingly. Good.
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And this one Bishop this ties in with some Gin Allenby has said
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about season 3 Shillings. It's a lingering just last week,
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you know, Tomb of the Cybermen is a, he says is season 3.
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The darkest show 04 darker show ever got the companion death in
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master plan Bleak ending in the massacre.
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No I don't think. Is it?
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It's the darkest. I think it's the most
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fatalistic. So it's like the most.
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You've got two stories on the trot.
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Or which basically end with massacres the massacre and
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dollies masked by where they don't really save anybody do
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they know? So we can't go there.
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I like that danger. I think maybe two on the Trot
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because like you get to the end of Dalek master plan, right?
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And it's like okay the whole planets dead?
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Sorry kingdoms dead, everyone's really sad.
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Well I have better Light Relief. Next week, episode 1, the
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massacre war of god. It's like Jesus but you are
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right? It's very adult.
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Very Very mature. I was going to say over that
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long period. You got the 12 weeks of Daleks
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master plan, you've started one week and by the time you get to
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the end of the massacre, that's a couple of months away.
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So it's spread out question for you then.
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Hmm. Because I say that those endings
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are probably, the more realistic doctors ever come because
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ultimately people do die in horrible ways and terrible
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things happen. We don't usually get Pappy Jolly
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endings, you know, how to Rina? Yeah, that's all right.
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We're never reach. The place of perfection is Red
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Hill and that convention for a she's brilliant.
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Isn't she fun? I would love to see more like,
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interviews with adriene Hill. Well, you've got our body has
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red hair with loving it and she appreciate a place in Doctor Who
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and she loved what she did. I get your ad Carolyn people
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there. Get you know moaning as you know
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why you're so Maudlin? Oh no, be more Andrew Neil
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please. Oh yeah more I'd read here.
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Yes, Carolyn Ford we had cut Cerrito for the first season
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little bit old much more fun. Brilliant.
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But you know, do you think do you think that's more realistic?
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Those sort of endings than, you know?
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Oh, we all lived happily ever after and it all the evil Was
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Defeated. We need a balanced.
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Really? I mean, you need some for every
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Daleks master plan, you need to chase, you know?
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So what's the bet, the right mix of the two and it isn't a very
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60s and the 70s. It's planet of the Daleks where
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the ending is. Basically loads of people got
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Basket in that. Tori poor.
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There's one have gotten up and down the ice volcano and I
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thought, I don't know his name but I sort of a load of the
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files get killed but at the end he says yeah you came back here
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or else but don't glamorize it and I know.
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Yeah. Anyway I thought sure what.
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Where we've got video anyway? That's the next question.
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Fraser Gregory oh dread to fit it's not marry avoid eat well he
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says why is everyone so obsessed with bringing Susan back?
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Good fucking question. I mean, She could not back.
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Then she couldn't act in Shakedown returnable santaros.
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She couldn't even act when she where you did it.
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The tiny bones in space and time.
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So why we want this Dreadful bloody actress back, which
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movement a convention? We went to, she goes home.
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Yeah, my agent tells me this week, really excited in the
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pipeline, nothing came of that, did it?
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No, I just want to quickly address, why Carolyn Ford
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irritates me. Okay, one is Kishimoto talent
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and to is because she's spent the last 34 years whinging about
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the That she was adopted 50 years whilst happily taking the
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paycheck to all these bloody events where you already know.
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I feel like, I feel like she exploits the fact that she was
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in there and also begrudges the fact that she's in it, and
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that's really weird. It feels really weird to be
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sitting there listening to somebody.
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We want was really about the fact that they don't have any
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Talent would redeem it though. If she came back suddenly into
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the 60th and there was a really touching see, by all accounts,
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she is coming back. But in what way would it you be
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like, Oh, I'm really glad Karen. I'm full came back.
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We've got Susan back that have to be that character moment that
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have to be that, you know, a scene between the doctor and
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Susan that being reunited. Can she put it on Rice could
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rescue Davis right as saying where the doctor the new doctor
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and Susan are reunited and it's touching as hell.
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Yes. Could Caroline for fucking
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Bobby? Yes, she could.
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Ha ha ha, the end of the end of documentation of Earth rush
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because he's amazing exit. See, one day I shall come back,
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you know, and then he goes off and she's just there staring at
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the floor. Like, there's no tears, there's
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no emotion. And, you know, and the family
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drops, the Tardis key and the little complain, a lot of
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effort. Yeah, then she goes off to be a
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teenage bride. I've been told who to marry
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Strange phrase that the answer to your question is, God knows.
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All right. Now if you told me Maureen,
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O'Brien was come back as Vicki. I'll come my pants.
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I'll be very excited. This also links in with a
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question. Andy.
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Parkinson said, he says, if Susan had developed more as her
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original role had suggested as an unearthly child, what would
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you have liked to seen her do and could Carolyn Ford of done
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it. I mean, let's just say what
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would you like to see more? She thought she was going to be
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playing some sort of Avengers scale, I but I didn't see I
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doing, I mean, the, the, in the sensor right, says, the
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telepathic moment. But then the doctor just treats
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her like a teenager and as a go and won't let her go off and do
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anything. He's not going to let go of
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karate. Chopping everyone all over the
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place, he won't even let her read.
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Someone's mind for one minute high high priest of sacrifice.
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Hey, With her skills. Supposedly you don't think
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that's what she was going to be doing it.
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She could have pulled that off. I mean she couldn't really shed,
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some scientific knowledge didn't she?
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But she didn't really in terms of applying the title to help in
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the dog to all she said was it's a 47 grandfather.
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I mean anybody can go up and read that vote locator.
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Doesn't take special scientific Powers a second.
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So I have to say, Mark doesn't an incredible impression of
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Susan running through all of our through a little binary, run
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other a little bit. It's also the little sort of
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stumble, because the camera Cuts were, then she gets a cute, then
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she starts running, oh my God, it's the best movie comes
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running into root of x, that's a skill, actually, that is a
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skill, running water. No making it look like you're
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running in the forest when you've got like, Like one meter
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of Studio that is very, very well done.
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That's a skill. She had trouble doing that sort
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of sexy dancing, and unearthly child, bam bum, bada bada bum.
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Ya. Maybe run a bit more of that,
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she'd been a bit sexier and a bit weirder.
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She probably could have done that because she is a bit weird
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but then maybe Barbara with him would have had to been a little
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bit weaker in terms of the story.
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Plot of what you could do. You couldn't have to, I mean,
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never mind any time. Serving the plot always be a
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goddess. Barber need to have that
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somebody in trouble and it is not Barbara.
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It's got to be Susan. And just Susan, just went OT
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take. Yeah.
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That Jared one bit. I actually really like of hers
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is when she goes, fucking nuts with those scissors?
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Yeah, every week she can't go wrong with Paris isn't exactly.
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She could have got more dumb. Couldn't see.
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Well, what if it was a joke. Stab, stab him season to the
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barber and the Aztecs. Now she could have pulled off by
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saying she couldn't have known like I'm like, I'll be the
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teenage Aztec priest has bring me this ring me this, I feel
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like some of the companion Chronicles, I think it's Karen
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and forth as he does a fair stab at read some of those.
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Find a bit boring in the law. Stories ones that they do, you
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know, like the third person was, but in the first person once
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she's actually pretty good. Good.
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But that's the best acting I think.
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I've seen her do. I've just never seen her.
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Do any other writing on TV? I think she did some other
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stuff. Should shake down returnable
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santara. Sure, awful.
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Anyone can watch that and she's like, you are drunk.
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Just like my friend. This drunk old fashion designer,
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that wears, this weird sort of velvety Shell suit that she
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washes up there, doing the rigging on this spaceship, it's
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all very strange. Anyway, Mark doleac told ya it
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was a very complicated names pronounce.
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You know, many people also deduced a quarter which periods
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in history that were never visited in the 60s.
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Do you think would have made for a good pure historical setting?
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Our that's a great question. I'm sorry.
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I said that about your dick really good.
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Ian. Oh, like I know they do it later
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on within the chip know where I would have to say the partition
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of India because we have like there's the law story with
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Alexander the Great, that would have been cool to see.
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I mean, it would have been bit Marco, Polo meets Aztecs.
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I got, I think that mean Gardens of Babylon.
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That's, that's what it is. Isn't it Alexander?
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The Great in the Babylon is there for awhile.
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For ya could have gone back in time.
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That Jesus could have gone. Oh Jesus Christ.
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Yes. Yeah, that's a red dwarf.
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Episode of that companion for nickel with the doctor and Susan
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pre unearthly child. And aren't they in like Russia
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or Germany or some other Russia is not Mother Russia?
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No, the Alchemists. Then all caught up in sort of
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water or something. I can't remember what it is.
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I encourage any stuff. This ain't really historical,
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but I'd love to have seen them go back to sort of, like the
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early 50s. So just a decade earlier sort
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of, you know, jazz clubs and Smokey things or things like
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that. You know, Barbara is just like
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the feather boa. Hell's rounding beings got have
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like the suit-and-tie Fedora fedora hat.
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He has to play poker and stuff and then one heart.
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The waitress. Though it's just the Caper it's
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just a proper like old-fashioned.
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What if its historical they just get caught up in events, don't
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they? So it's going to be how do we
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get out of this or they get caught up in?
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They've got a nice save the casino or something you know
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Star Trek episode anyway very well?
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Darren lit roundels. Oh yeah, without writer 60s, who
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would you have liked to have seen?
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Seen more scripts from in the 70s and 80s.
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I would have loved to have seen John do karate zarkan space and
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thanks to the magic of big finish.
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They don't waste any tossed out script we soon.
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Will that I think else, John Lee Frosty was a really good writer.
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Wasn't you think of his free Aztecs?
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The massacre wasn't the massacre.
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Rewritten, a lot by was a Donald Tosh.
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I don't think but then the old, the target was John Liu karate,
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wasn't it? Wow, I would love a new.
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Did the ark? Yeah.
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Something, is he was so ambitious?
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Yeah, you know, it was a bit over, you know, over time.
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Was that guy's name. Centrist Mo?
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Oh, listen, to them, you know, about and we'll try inhales into
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the 80s. No, because he was always
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Rewritten terrorist attacks. Always you, nobody has what I
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just did. I ask for is usually Denis time
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maker that he has and it's Mother's Day Jerry Davis and
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kill Peddler but Jared Davis in Revenge on assignments or maybe
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not. No.
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Oh my God. Yeah, David Whittaker.
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I would like to see more David Whittaker.
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Well into the 80s. That would have been amazed.
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That was heartbreaking. More saw that documentary was
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something about how he was effectively canceled for his
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political views, really, really interesting.
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Anyone else. How could you live like haseman
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and Lincoln have gone on to do more after abominable snowmen or
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dominators know, Gregory coming off?
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Do you know? It would just be more to it.
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They'd have it would be the Bryan Adams effect.
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You would just be more, Yeti stories or more of the same
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things. I've got one.
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I got one for you. Peter Ling are for the Mind
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robber, Fame. Oh yeah, I see what else he
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could have done. Oh my God.
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Yes, peeling, because I should drop poetry over my brother
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stole story, you know? We'll take you all the time,
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you're on. The he would love every one of
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those action adventure stories with me.
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Your name is Gulliver's Travels, drink, your coffee, girl.
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I refuse to follow that White Rabbit about,
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From Robert Valentine did. Okay, if you're going to argue
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and why not it's up to her that this is the greatest and best
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decade of the series. Why would that be because it is
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I think the 60s is the best decade of Doctor Who I think the
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first three years are sort of the most ambitious.
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And the most diverse that the show ever was.
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And I don't think it has anything to do with the fact
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that it hasn't found a formula that I think it's the fact that
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they just were ambitious writers, and they were trying as
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much as they possibly could. It does lose something in
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trousers time, when it goes more formulaic and 70s and the 80s.
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Extent is formulaic depending on who the scriptwriter is.
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You know what? You get would be made.
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You know what you get were very sword.
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And you know what? You get from Andrew cartmel on.
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The hull is the sixties the best ERA.
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I think so. Yeah, and Mark belgians reply to
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that, and this is what he says about this mokpo sure.
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Is he handsome? Oh, he's handsome.
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He's got a lovely beard. Oh, Mark to take away your beard
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anyway. So go on, it's the most
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mysterious and Eerie decade of who and the most spooky, I love
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it. When they have a whole episode,
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just wandering around and abandoned Planet before.
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Anyone else turns up, I love you.
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Love you, love Susan on her own running, back to the Tardis in
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The Darlings. So otherworldly, it's at.
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So, runny otherworldly, bad acting.
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I need someone at school Primary School.
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School. They used to run like they do in
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time and Ronnie with the arms back like that used to run by
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school like that. Yeah.
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And he said it was quicker to run that way.
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It was more aerodynamic. Oh yeah.
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So we both think that the 60s is the best and our argument is
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because that's what we think all of time and space podcast.
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Oh, yes. Hello.
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What is the best story from the 1960s?
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And why is it the Daleks monster plan?
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Or you could make a very good case for that.
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Now I know you and Sarah choking cough that Sarah to nearly gave
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up the podcast. Halfway three times laughter?
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Yeah no she didn't. You go back and listen to those
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episodes. She said it Was too long anyway.
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I think I think it's aiso cause it's like, well, this is what
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sums up the 60s. There's so many great stories.
24:27
I mean, I would, I love the Chase and we say that's a great
24:30
story of the 60s by no dice up our things on such as you have a
24:34
bit of everything in there. Yeah.
24:36
From this. Yeah, the time.
24:38
Yep. Throws everything that we know
24:40
as Doctor Who and it's all in their packaging, 112 amazing
24:44
episode. That's why season 3 is so
24:46
amazing. It's because like I said is got
24:50
the the full gamut of Doctor Who the tragedy the historical, the
24:53
future, all of that the Epic, the intimate, everything the
24:57
doctor who can do and then right in the heart of it, you've got
25:00
Daleks master plan, doing it all again.
25:03
Literally, everything is in their comedy episode 7,
25:06
Christmas special all done by our chaplain or the meddling
25:10
monk. I've marooned, you are the
25:13
planet take us? Yeah.
25:16
Tragedy deaths action, everything is it that its master
25:21
plan. Maybe the war games, I love to
25:24
walk outside and the other pair of the Daleks.
25:29
There's so many greats but I think I'd rather than just sums
25:32
it all up. I think for me I really want to
25:33
watch it. Now we can we watch the Recon
25:35
later? Okay.
25:36
Well do cardio country, I've heard that it I do that in
25:40
fucking episodes. Again, another one from frasor.
25:44
God, who is the Eric? Say word of the 60.
25:49
Wow, who's the controversial sort of lacking talent?
25:53
I don't know if I know. Well, there was that producer
25:59
that came along. Wasn't there?
26:00
Just for in season 3, he didn't stick around very long but then
26:04
all those stories we've already talked about.
26:05
It was involved in violence, master plan Massacre if makers
26:09
are all amazing. Now who was the one that's all?
26:11
Got rid of every you know do Steven and started clearing the
26:14
decks of it may be, it may. Maybe in this Lloyd as the one
26:18
that was in terms of our I'm but they don't.
26:21
So then, you know why I'm just coming in to do what I, and it's
26:24
located in, right? And the right is where all the
26:26
on the die. If he was trying to sort
26:28
everything around here who's suddenly the rate of about a
26:32
million again, Eric's I wouldn't have that effect though whether
26:36
the other direction, Victor Pemberton.
26:43
Yeah, I suppose it was a cappella kit.
26:47
Peddler was asked, what he was just studying scientific
26:49
consultant, Pacific advisor, advisors, I don't think there is
26:54
anyone comparable? I don't think I felt because, I
26:56
think he much everyone involved has some Talent.
26:58
Yeah. In the 60s.
27:00
I think. I know we haven't, we were harsh
27:03
last. It's just another.
27:05
We would you were, but they didn't have the Hiatus and the
27:08
BBC, One trying to get rid of Doctor Who it's extinct.
27:17
Okay. Okay.
27:19
Next question is from mrs. Remington fan.
27:21
And that's David, that's all David.
27:23
Yeah, if you could save one of them, one missing story but it
27:27
means getting rid of an existing one, which would it be.
27:29
And why my people was trying to get us to junk stories, okay?
27:34
If I could save one, I already said this in the last episode, I
27:36
would say Marco Polo. I would love to look out for
27:40
What from the 60s Sorry, for I saw, it might have to be the
27:44
dominators. Yeah, and then, if a show that
27:47
would have an effect because everyone would love be like, I
27:49
wonder what it was like hard and it really like sounds and they'd
27:54
be all this research. I mean, like the courts, walk
27:56
like this and they did this and they look like this and people
28:00
will be like full can do. Yeah.
28:02
There might be like a man, it should have been on the screen.
28:04
We don't want to fuck her and that spaceship sorcerer.
28:08
We lie all those the most amazing shot.
28:10
All we've got is a blurry telling snap drunk.
28:11
Or a junkyard blinked and missed it A Lash.
28:14
And this was the best-looking story over.
28:22
And imagine on the soundtrack enough, that lovely fellow, who
28:25
really aliens are you? I shall write that down in my
28:28
notebook. Yeah, he did.
28:31
I think it probably would do the Dominator, some good.
28:33
You know, you couldn't see it. You can imagine the vast city of
28:37
the Dolls, iums, can you get some of that back?
28:40
Drop a painted backdrop. Love time Jean curious job.
28:43
You know watch TV all day and just take some photos.
28:47
God easy, you know that like that bit in Smugglers, where Ben
28:51
doesn't nip slip. Yeah, had the God he snapped at
28:54
that point otherwise. We never want to see Marco
28:57
craze. Nipples very /.
29:01
Do you think he just snapped? He just snapped at what is it
29:03
was like one a minute or something.
29:05
So it didn't really matter because you get those really
29:07
blurry ones, don't you? Yeah.
29:09
Oh did he just accidentally Pursuit?
29:11
He's distracted by something like a the camera to warm up or
29:15
so it didn't it. I don't know how sophisticated
29:20
was but I was a 60 though. It was that sophisticated I'll
29:25
tell you more about him. Somebody should do an experiment
29:28
and Tutela snaps of all the 70s and 80s stories.
29:31
And see what ye how the story comes across in a series of
29:34
still pretty. Recreated, the Genex cure
29:37
experiments. Do you remember that chapter of
29:39
the degree, the Palm ours? Dr. Burke in the past octave
29:43
range where he tells it all. For a series of Stills is taking
29:46
the piss out until it snaps. I love that.
29:50
Okay, next question from Gavin. I'll give it to him.
29:55
Which Todd is team? I say what is all this coming
29:58
along? I'll be I'll be watching his
30:00
progress on the Twitter and you know his muscles are like the
30:04
size of rocks now anyway. Sorry.
30:07
Which tie this team has the best dynamic in the 60s.
30:10
Personally, I'm torn between the first talk to Ian Barbara and
30:13
Susan. All the second with Ben and
30:16
Polly. You're going to answer that
30:17
while I plug my laptop because my battery's about to go Okay,
30:20
so what has the best set of regulars?
30:22
Yeah. Oh well art for me is first
30:26
doctor and Ian Barbara and Vicki.
30:31
And I should tell you for a while one.
30:33
I've got really Susan, she's fucking annoying and Vicky comes
30:36
in full of gumption. And you know, ready to take over
30:40
revolutions on things up for the adventure in Rome and having a
30:45
jolly old time of it all. And you got Ian and Barbara who
30:48
are the ultimate Adopt a power couple and when I want to stop
30:52
sir I mean I think it's just perfect.
30:53
However, second or maybe join first would be S dr.
30:59
Jamie and Zoe. And that's just because they're
31:01
a bunch of kids going around time and space.
31:03
What's your answer? I've managed to last.
31:05
Just how long it took you to run upstairs and grab the room.
31:08
The I think first up to Ian, Barbara, and Vicki.
31:12
Yeah. I quite like, if you say poly
31:16
better, Jamie, I'm those because you have sex or two of them, not
31:21
I don't really agree with. Oh no, I'm sorry.
31:24
I thought Gavin said the first dr.
31:26
Benton Polly. I was like, I don't agree with
31:27
that Dynamic. Did you never read the book?
31:30
Ten little aliens by Stephen Cole.
31:33
No, was fabulous. I quite like the first Doctor,
31:35
Steven and Vicki as well. Oh, yeah.
31:38
Steven brief like Stephen and dodo.
31:42
Why is this? Come on, just think it's fun.
31:44
Because then the Stephen saw of those like the younger sort of
31:48
sibling. In a way and Stephens got a
31:50
lookout for a. She's always like oh no, don't
31:52
do that though. Don't know if I quite like that.
31:56
I don't like you anymore. You're a bad clown.
31:59
She's a bit more Reckless than Vicki.
32:01
Yeah, I think you do need that but not annoying and screaming
32:05
like Susan. It's that balance between Vicki
32:07
and Susan. I think that she actually has
32:09
and she's got a bit of the what strategy was great about those
32:12
areas. You don't take no shit.
32:14
She just got out of the bloody monsters and I are you up to?
32:17
No good. What are you doing?
32:27
Hey, what are you up to? What are you hiding in that
32:33
Carly bunker? Who else is there?
32:38
That's like a big villain. What?
32:41
Don't you go up against? I'll just any can finding her
32:43
and she's totally just lasted the whole series.
32:49
Accra she won't say anything. She and actually should be
32:53
dancing and singing with all the she bought.
32:55
Actually tell you. There are such fingers macro, he
33:00
would love all of that, all the pampering, and the stuff at the,
33:03
the mackerel. I wouldn't she, yes.
33:06
Well, she loves going to the hottest nightclub in town.
33:08
So, the only time I do it. It doesn't work.
33:11
Is the celestial toymaker where do do is just completely written
33:16
as area Susan, and I say back to Tombstone or I'll have to shoot
33:26
you. Now she gets again out.
33:37
Hold on. Do do you know she's got stop
33:39
sleep with people getting STDs. Okay, thank you o.
33:43
Martyr you've got some problems, I'll tell ya.
33:46
Another one from Darren lit Randall's.
33:48
Okay. If Richard Sin had directed
33:50
another story after the chase. Which one do you think he would
33:53
have done the least damage to that?
33:56
That I love a chance Direction? I love the chase.
33:59
I think he did really well, all those different elements are
34:02
different, seen every different scenario every week, a different
34:05
set, a different thing. It wasn't like it was, you know,
34:08
one set for four episodes. He did really well and he's got
34:12
the Daleks. It's got all of those other bits
34:15
and pieces. Brilliant.
34:17
How can you love about your mind?
34:19
My, how can you praise Richard mind and slag off, Kenny with
34:23
Baynes direction? Or you can even holes of 91,
34:26
who's Katie McBain, he's a director of the holes and I
34:29
don't know is who's not? You're making that up.
34:33
No director, you know, any moving, you know, it's the guy
34:37
that isn't it. No, that's not directed horns of
34:43
my Lord. I've never heard that name in my
34:45
life. You're joking with me.
34:54
Say it to the homes of 91 will be real, really?
34:59
Yeah. Okay.
35:00
This is no mon trapped in The Labyrinth.
35:02
I think we should become richer mind directed home tonight
35:04
morning, with been production. It's saying what's the question
35:09
again, if you direct another story after the chase, which one
35:12
would he have done? The least damage to?
35:13
So what would you like to Racine him?
35:15
I decoded Galaxy for because it's very simple.
35:19
To do a few sets and a couple of actors.
35:22
It could have, you know, made that really atrocious period.
35:26
I think you're right. I think he shows the doll is
35:28
extremely well in. He likes them brilliantly in the
35:31
chase. It's just he can't do action.
35:33
He cannot fucking direct action to save his life.
35:36
He's got a handful though. He's got a lot on your plate
35:42
right next question, it's your handful of he's dealing with a
35:46
lot saying, okay, it's not good. He's been more specific and I,
35:50
will you say face, okay? Another one from frasor.
35:54
Yeah, which future Human Society had the best costumes?
35:58
Oh, it's dominators for sure. I love those shower curtains.
36:01
Not those weird underpants on the outside that you get from
36:04
seeds to death. Oh no, they're the deal with
36:07
those Dreadful ones in the ice forest, remember I sort of
36:10
swirly 60 pounds, they're a bit more fitted they wearing in the
36:14
security kitchen. And they are, do they sort of
36:16
got those, the curtains that shredded aren't I?
36:19
That's quite a sports. Not hula-hula, we do.
36:22
I think, you know what I'm talking about?
36:23
Luau luau like, yeah. So cross Millennia through was
36:30
really bad as I was Dreadful leather pants with the house
36:32
curve and over the garlic. Yeah, yeah.
36:36
Yeah. They just need to like just call
36:37
those holes on his stick, on some wall up but they've got
36:40
those nice advantage in those houses, you know, plasticy
36:45
blankets which don't feel comfortable at all.
36:50
I think the conclusion that we're drawing is that designers
36:53
in the 60s, were far out, baby. Okay.
36:58
And you have concern says, would you like to see the sixties
37:02
stories colorized? I'd like a few Choice.
37:06
One colorized. Help make them more appealing to
37:09
younger audience. I think possibly.
37:12
Yes. And I think there is a very good
37:14
reason why they did color for the animations and, you know, Do
37:18
you wash your animations in color or in black and white?
37:22
Black and why I watch them in color.
37:24
I prefer them in color, macro tearing colors, amazing.
37:28
It's like, it's nice to have the choice.
37:29
Yeah. Yeah.
37:32
I think I think it would make them more accessible.
37:34
And I am really excited that there is talk of them doing a
37:38
colorization in the future. So, yes, I did another one from
37:43
denim Reese. How many hearts does the first
37:45
doctor have How many hearts does he have?
37:49
Is no story where he only has. Someone says he's got heartbeat,
37:52
there's no reference to two horses in there until later on.
37:55
Yeah, that's why so, how many does he have?
37:58
Well, I'll tell you Dylan, it is the truth or in that the BBC
38:01
eighth doctor novel sometime. Never the doctors parted
38:06
retroactively Rewritten when a crystal man from the dawn of
38:09
time takes on the Visage of the doctor and he has a a character
38:16
in it called Zach. Han who then has a memory wives
38:21
and things? Her name is Susan at the end of
38:24
the story and the Crystal man turns into the image, he takes
38:29
on the doctors memories and turns into William Hartnell.
38:32
So, it's supposed to be a way of him because, you know, they took
38:35
away the doctors memory in the a filter range.
38:38
This was supposed to be a way for Justin Richards.
38:39
Basic say, this is how you could have done it without him, ever
38:42
ever in his memory. So he's got no heart at all.
38:46
He's a crystal man from the dawn of time.
38:48
The rule book. Yeah if we just make him a load
38:50
of shit out for you looking to make it happen, it's got ice
38:54
crystals commenting on it. Holding the Tardis with the
38:57
glowing eyes, Crystal scalar because the doctor and there's
39:00
an become Susan. Anyway, I think he's probably
39:03
got is, he's got one heart in the 60s, but he's retroactively
39:07
Rewritten to have two hearts in the 70s.
39:09
Okay, he has two hearts. That's dr.
39:14
Grace of Lord different puncture.
39:19
Of course your SEC. What's that woman saved?
39:24
Oh, also named Curtis, dr. Holloway it's Brian.
39:31
What do you want? Sorry,
39:43
but you can put companions with different doctors.
39:45
So if you wanted to swap them up, or would you do?
39:48
Okay. Well no, I mean I would have
39:50
said the second Doctrine do do, but you can tell them apart with
39:52
their hair. Oh, could you imagine first
40:00
talked to Victoria and you couldn't have to see?
40:02
Don't require child, dr. Stephen Stephen will be left
40:05
twice. The high heat actually looking
40:07
up at him. No way.
40:10
And I've got it. I've got it first dr.
40:12
Steven J. Me and Ben but first dr.
40:16
Goes out. And I Go in.
40:21
Imagine them as Steven and Polly as a team.
40:25
Imagine that Dynamic he get fed up about pretty quickly, what
40:30
you're telling me, you're an astronaut from the future.
40:33
Dr. We taking this swinging 60s lady with us.
40:36
Are you ever serious to? You cannot steal these about
40:41
this but I don't, I don't believe it.
40:44
Stephen does say more things to me.
40:49
He does that. So I don't scientific.
40:51
Researches are this inhuman. I'm off.
40:54
Doesn't quite say that. Does he and don't you think?
40:57
She looks like my granddaughter Susan.
40:59
Oh, hey, Steven, I love your stripy jumpers.
41:01
I said, one of those would kind of be street, but let me go to
41:10
the conclusion that all the companions 60s except for Susan,
41:14
our Fab they are. And I dig their Bob Geer, Tom
41:19
Newsome asks term new theorem. What 1960s monster would you
41:23
want to get as big as Dalek Mania was Don't you dare
41:28
something? Cause I probably should know if
41:32
it would have been the mechanoids.
41:34
Oh me, nuh English. English annoyed Mania be make a
41:39
Mania. And so that if I was still going
41:42
now, Mecca, Bingo sponsored by Lottery.
41:57
Scratch card. You could have William Hart,
41:59
noise to the Mystic make Draw the balls.
42:08
My child. It should have read the
42:12
mechanoid. You think we can about mechanoid
42:15
jumpers. Imagine a mechanoid place so you
42:18
could just make one out of a cardboard box time, you made the
42:21
time as base visualizer out of a cardboard box and up on the zoom
42:24
call. I never wanted to have any more
42:28
though. They for any ask.
42:30
What is the high point of 60s, Who and the low point of 60s who
42:35
don't waste money every time we say, 62, I I'm immediately
42:38
thinking. William Hartnell time.
42:39
I haven't even really am I? Yeah, you know what about
42:42
Patrick troughton's time would, you know, I say the high point
42:45
of 60s, who are do one for Hartnell and one betrayal, and I
42:48
think it's the to epochs is the data is master plan.
42:51
In the war games is the war games.
42:54
That epic is that just about five episodes of padding until
42:57
then, we're okay. The same way as the Wall Gang
43:05
Stars. I like the beginning.
43:07
I say as a pure historical wide about 4 episodes out and
43:12
literally a like an onion it gets bigger and bigger.
43:15
Till the point where fucking God himself has descended and made
43:20
time like honey, you can't get back to the Tardis.
43:25
You can't escape. It's fucking anything like that.
43:28
I just think in the middle is just a little.
43:30
You could it doesn't have to be 10.
43:32
I'm just saying what that bit too.
43:44
I see, are you, are you chaps lost late, Jennifer.
43:48
She's amazing. They like, I love her.
43:50
Yeah, actually, I quite like that, man.
43:52
He pops in and goes home. Oh, hello chaps.
43:55
What's going on here? All right.
43:56
Well, Cheerio another fella and then the safe explodes.
44:00
He's like what the devil. So what's a low Point?
44:03
Okay, sorry. Well, I for one, they're the low
44:06
point of the 60s. Yes.
44:09
I've refused to hear anything about the web Planet because
44:11
it's so ambitious. It's not a low Point, all the
44:15
space museum because it's got a brilliant episode 1.
44:19
What's up, what's don't go leaving daughter the character
44:22
but that's another story. A lot of the companions, not
44:25
having that, you know, Ben and Polly didn't have a great
44:27
ending, what's up with the hair and the attention to the
44:30
characters? What could have been done?
44:32
Yeah, there is that there is a light and episode or what's the
44:36
most of other ambitious, the most Like are we just not
44:40
putting any effort into this? Because I think pretty much all
44:43
the 60s. There's a lot of effort going
44:44
into it. I'm space pirates.
44:50
Some effort done with a model work of things like that.
44:52
I'm going to say that cause I'm scared Corey for free.
44:59
We got some curtains, let's just get on with it.
45:02
We've got a few cardboard boxes, we can make fried balls out.
45:06
Maybe I can't think of any time where you can say there's no
45:09
effort like for me probably off the most boring story.
45:14
You're going to figure out bad of these 60s for me is probably
45:19
the This one's. I just thought it really dull.
45:23
Really do I find it sort of ponderously directed.
45:27
I like Sam Briggs quite a bit but I just I just think it's six
45:31
episodes of. We're not a lot happens.
45:33
I quite like the setting though of it.
45:35
I'm looking at 30. Maybe it's two times to Haines.
45:37
That's where our awesome. Oh yeah.
45:39
I was incredibly when I saw that with all the time, but second
45:43
home to me, they just left me on the runway get my plane bugger
45:47
off. Okay, what's next?
45:50
John been Salvia. Well, done, you're getting
45:53
there. Do you think that there's a
45:54
ghost of a chance that we will see any more missing episode,
45:57
recoveries? And if so, which ones would you
45:59
like to see the most? And why, I think, every time we
46:02
say, there's no more kobach more return.
46:05
So I think we probably will, and they'll turn up in weird places,
46:08
like they always do, which one? Well, I keep saying Marco Polo.
46:14
So Joe, I also going to say I would really like to see some of
46:17
those ones that nobody talks about Sam.
46:19
She's of the Smugglers. Love those those two.
46:22
There's no fucker talks about that, but I think if you
46:24
actually could see the location working the Smugglers and watch
46:27
the Savages, they'd be much. I think something from story
46:32
that we don't get anything off, LOL the massacre, or something,
46:34
just a little bit Baker's. It was just like another sensor
46:37
clip, you know? Oh, nope, it's just any of those
46:46
bits? No, no.
46:55
Captain pike. Of course I will memorize the
47:09
sounds okay. Who is the?
47:15
This is from Darren live rounds again.
47:17
Who is the best director to come out of 62?
47:19
Douglas County field. That's just so easy.
47:22
Oh, he said, you can't choose Doctor's Care.
47:29
Oh yeah, my robot or, but he didn't even the protein powder
47:34
horse, white for the mind. Robert, he's very clever
47:36
director. Load of cocaine stores are
47:43
fucking weird, anyone else, so oh, yeah, Michael Ferguson
47:49
match. And if what's his name, David
47:51
Maloney did Freeze Frame Cliffhangers in the 60s.
47:55
Oh yeah. Well, it did make that false
47:57
freeze frame. I love that.
47:58
It doesn't look that and then it turns into a picture, doesn't
48:01
it? Yeah, more of that fake.
48:03
Any McBain doesn't exist. He doesn't exist.
48:09
Yeah, no, I was Michael Ferguson as well.
48:10
Who did the war machines and the Seas of death?
48:13
And the ambassador's of death, he's a brilliant director.
48:17
So it's all these ones that are sort of Innovative and they
48:22
refuse to, just sort of point and shoot.
48:25
I actually think war is Hussein is a very good director as well.
48:29
Yeah, it's a shame. You didn't come back, what he
48:31
did by Polo. Yeah.
48:32
After Marco Polo, that was very early on you think of of
48:37
Hinrich, this is, but it's from right around of Terror.
48:40
I don't think. I mean, why are you looking so
48:43
marvelous and heydrich. I've been a soured I'm in a
48:47
desperate situation. Shut up cat.
48:49
Errol so sorry for Carolina Ford.
48:55
Well, I just think right, I don't know.
48:56
It's just go back to kind of fold again for a Son of God.
48:59
Well, I mean, I can't winch bar a little bit on this.
49:01
She spent the last four years whinging about being in dogs
49:03
road. Yeah, true true.
49:05
Okay, next sigh heart. So I heart my best, the best,
49:09
the best day God which 60s Tardis team?
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Would you most like to travel with absolutely Polly better
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Jamie and I have all of them as well.
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I don't Government without free. Next Steven, Alexander, what was
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the first 60 stories you saw? And what did you think of it at
49:27
the time? Oh my God, I think it was the
49:30
Aztecs, you know. Oh no, it wasn't.
49:32
It was that VHS or the seeds of death?
49:34
I couldn't figure out what was going on.
49:36
The quality was terrible, but then afterwards, it was the
49:39
Woolworths exclusive of the Aztecs and I remember buying it
49:43
going on. What's this boring history
49:45
lesson and being completely beguiled by it?
49:49
I was, I couldn't believe that historical Doctor Who was that?
49:53
Good that the dialogue was that poety the news?
49:57
It was that strong, the sort of moral dilemma the acting.
50:01
It blew me away. I think that's where my love of
50:04
the story calls came from, but you mind robber.
50:09
No wonder you was in love Rod. Who who wrote?
50:15
Yeah, I'll be there who want to school rod.
50:19
How many distinct phrases are there within the 60s and what
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characteristics or type of fart? Oh, God is the complicated, what
50:28
I got, how many distinct phrases are there with the 60s?
50:32
And what characterizes or typifies type of funny things of
50:37
God, each of these phrases phases.
50:41
I've completely read this wrong try again.
50:44
How many distinct phases are there in the 60s phrases?
50:49
Thinking I was thinking, grandmother vases with in the
51:00
60s and what typifies, these type of files.
51:04
These are times of such a behind-the-scenes
51:05
Merry-Go-Round, it's not as immediately obvious as Terrance
51:08
dicks. I relates or J, and T, and I
51:11
say, Well done that. Sorry.
51:13
Okay, you ready? I've got one up.
51:15
This actually I think you've got the the first set of regulars
51:18
that's what. Yeah.
51:21
Yes and the second set of regular Sunday both on the
51:23
Verity Lambert but the counter got a different feel because of
51:26
Susan than whites. I think that would be all mine
51:29
because I think the Vicki are, or somebody everything's a bit
51:31
bigger. Dalek invasion of a suede web
51:34
Planet, the chase. It's all sort of bigger stories.
51:37
Then you've got the John while 0 which is that little bit in the
51:39
series 3 where it's very dark, then you've got the Jerry Davis
51:44
era which is where all the base on the sea salts come in and see
51:47
some for early. Season 5 and then you've got the
51:51
direct Sherwin error which is the Ed tail end of 5 into 6.
51:56
That's my phases, the phases of the 60s very well but yeah I've
52:01
got a question for you. Well, you know where we did
52:04
Doctor in distress. Yeah, for the 90s.
52:07
Yeah, mmm. Well it was almost cancelled in
52:10
the 60s. What it Arthur War Games the
52:14
bills and stress lat So and so he is SOS.
52:22
When I find myself in times of trouble Mother, Susan speaking
52:33
words of wisdom William Hartnell, who would you get
52:44
Scylla black? Lulu Lulu.
52:47
Okay. Who else is in the sea?
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Don't vote, I'm to the ionizer was right.
53:26
It's like coming for you. Anyway, anyone with eyes?
53:30
You could let you have the lion. He wouldn't hope Yeti wouldn't
53:35
shoot. Okay cool.
53:38
We got time for two more questions.
53:40
Hey, may I just say doctor in distress featuring The Beatles
53:45
and Cilla Black would just be the highlight of my life.
53:51
Hunk surprise, surprise doctor who is back before your eyes.
53:58
It's in color, and it's beat script.
54:01
Anybody? Terrance dicks?
54:02
Surprise, surprise. So it go, sorry, other how we
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get here? London Calling says, what was
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hello? London Calling.
54:12
What was 62? Fandom like compared to the
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decades which come after it. When I first got there, I think.
54:20
Oh yeah, or there's one picture of Ian Levine smashing this TV
54:24
Ivan. It wasn't Ian Levine in the 60s
54:27
apart from me and levena think of who was watching Doctor, Who
54:30
in the 60s, this way is developing Obsession came from,
54:33
you know, I mean Doctor, Who fandom was probably a spurious
54:37
because it was all little kids, right?
54:38
Into William Hartnell being like always.
54:49
Very special, I don't think fandom really reached its peak,
54:54
until sorry. It started and sort of the
54:57
mid-70s and then exploded in the 80s.
55:02
But people were writing in being live, people were lovely that
55:05
just watch the Telly. Why do you not have two hearts?
55:07
Or he didn't have two hearts, know he does.
55:08
Or why did Polly do this or say this?
55:10
And yeah, you certainly didn't have insane super fans telling
55:15
people not to pay for their electricity bills and instead
55:18
you are done. Aren't you buy the Blu-ray sets?
55:21
It would have been totally nice nothing.
55:24
But around that time, imagine if there was a filmed interview
55:28
with William Hartnell that existed, just talking about
55:32
Doctor Who and all that. That's what I would love
55:35
although some of those actors and actresses from the time
55:38
talking, imagine it's a shame because now I do the
55:44
commentaries now and they can't really remember that much, kind
55:47
of because it was history, it's just us.
55:49
Some of these actors and actresses like that you just
55:52
don't really see much of or you haven't heard much or at the
55:54
time. Imagine if somebody had had that
55:57
thought I don't know tape record an interview with them or I mean
56:01
there's letters and things from William and I wasn't there but
56:03
it's mostly talk to kids. Yeah, yeah yeah.
56:06
Really I called you know who is that one reason that pantomime
56:08
dressing room is an RBI but after all to and he's got a bit.
56:12
Yeah like Learners and I'm a legitimate Act of the stage and
56:15
screen is imagine if it was all season to Dalek Mania and he was
56:19
like talking about the amazing, his experiment, he was as how
56:23
amazing was and how what the response was, you know, to
56:28
somebody that was in to see You know, when William Russell tools
56:32
by the getting, in the form of a mouse and a he bring them in
56:34
William Hartnell and a rehearsal, yes, a confidential
56:38
there they're sitting there on the set of of artists with a
56:42
little blanket down and they're all eating their delicious
56:44
produce from fortnum & Mason. Come on, my child lunch time,
56:49
you have to say that confidential and set of the
56:51
center, right? Yeah, probably Jackie Hill, used
56:53
to bring in Eccles cakes and he's bringing a bit of
56:56
battenberg the doctrine team have landed on a mysterious
56:59
spaceship. And here's Carolyn Ford to tell
57:02
us more. Well I get to use my special
57:05
powers in this episode. Just have to wait and see
57:09
serious extra things that Susan gets to do this time.
57:12
It's all very exciting we need Doctor Who confidential for the
57:17
60s. Yeah, we've got minute or two
57:20
and a half minutes. Come on, we could do one more
57:22
question. Oh, Jeff.
57:25
The wheezing Grandpa's is a lethal Colton.
57:30
Charlton. Ilithyia could Carlton Michael
57:34
shade of a 60s. I mean, she's eating your time
57:37
story and she's her. No, she's not.
57:43
She's she her in the cave, man. 1.
57:48
Hey oh you are. Yeah.
57:49
Right. She's brilliant.
57:51
I would love to see more stuff. Can I ask you a question?
57:54
As we out, this is why is he did such a star of to watch who like
57:58
he I took about Edith a lot because when we're watching it
58:00
through, she was the first sort of character that was just
58:03
really nice and helpful and she didn't have any other sort of
58:07
agenda or anything. She gave the doctor some food
58:10
and drink, she gave the kids even some sandwiches on the way
58:13
back from them thing she does. He wraps up for make some
58:17
venison or something? She's just really helpful.
58:19
Anybody drops by she's welcoming and helpful.
58:22
She's a sixth-grade molested It struck me as a character.
58:34
Okay? Structure as a character, she
58:36
was a character. Yeah, I know but just as a
58:37
really good character has a lot of personality
58:55
Imagine Rapunzel, I suppose, you know, that hurts so it gets more
59:00
questions in or we've got a minute, kind of a lot.
59:02
Oh, David G says, what did Steven and sharply, get up to in
59:05
the back of press and Shop that night, this is a family podcast
59:11
as if I'm going to suggest they were up to no good.
59:15
Would you imagine? They're up to in the back of the
59:17
shop? Well, it depends if you have
59:20
this whole story of, if dodos is great, great granddaughter or
59:24
Well, of course it's a fucking. They were lie.
59:29
Well, I mean in the middle of a massacre.
59:33
Is the best time. Yeah, maybe that's why I got
59:37
over. There were like it.
59:37
Here, people being dismembered outside, let's go.
59:47
Well, folks, we'll be back for part 2.
59:49
I've only got 10 seconds left. What can you say about the 60s?
59:52
I was really excited. Oh, I don't know.