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Are Aaron Ekblads Days Numbered for the Florida Panthers · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Happy Thursday. Everybody, fuckme to another edition of the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. N Cuba Wrestling Championships.
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  Speaker 4: One of my other loves.
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  Speaker 5: Who's your who's your team? Who's your school?
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  Speaker 4: Well, my school actually doesn't have a wrestling program anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I went to Boston College. But as far as who
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  Speaker 4: do I like, I mean, I don't think he can
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  Speaker 4: like anybody at Penn State this weekend. They're just they're
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  Speaker 4: just loaded. I mean there's wrestlers I like from some
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  Speaker 4: different schools, the Hammity kid who transferred to Oklahoma State
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  Speaker 4: this year. Of course I'm watching them because of David
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  Speaker 4: Taylor going in there as a coach, replaced in the
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  Speaker 4: I just got through watching the Big Ten, the Big Twelve,
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  Speaker 5: That's amazing, I've been I never wrestled while I started out,
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  Speaker 5: but there were like eight of us were heavyweight, so
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  Speaker 5: I knew I'd never see the map, but always been
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  Speaker 5: a huge fan. Kid from my high school was a
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  Speaker 5: two time state champion Matt McCutcheon, and he wrestled at
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  Speaker 5: Penn State for kill.
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  Speaker 1: And a man talking about wrestling. By the way, is
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  Speaker 1: the Barbara Mark Mari Day. So you know, welcome Barbara,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Barber have a busy show lined up.
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  Speaker 3: First couple of topics.
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  Speaker 1: Are actually related to Florida Panthers Mike and his under
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  Speaker 1: why he seemed to be in the news a lot lately.
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  Speaker 1: Michael had his segment about his hockey operations update. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about Steven A. Smith on this show about that,
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  Speaker 1: and we have another formations topic along with Jackets.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get it gulled. We have a heart out at
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  Speaker 3: nine o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Want to make sure we get to everything so everybody
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  Speaker 1: can talk about Aaron ex glad or his day's numbered
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  Speaker 1: with the Florida Panthers. Well, first of all, the guy
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  Speaker 1: is twenty nine years of age. He was suspended for
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  Speaker 1: plenty games for violating the terms of the league's performance
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  Speaker 1: enhancing substance program. He had three goals in thirty three
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  Speaker 1: points in fifty six games this season. This is eleventh
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  Speaker 1: of the Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: He's set. I'm a free agent.
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  Speaker 1: He's a first NHL player since Nate Schmidt on September
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen to receive the suspension. Mike, what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about Aaron Eckli number one of his days numbers
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  Speaker 1: and two.
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  Speaker 3: This is not a good look for this guy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's obvious his days are numbered. I
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  Speaker 4: also believe that this type does The type of thing
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  Speaker 4: doesn't happen with an NHL player without his club knowing
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  Speaker 4: what's going on, So I believe the Panthers knew about this.
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  Speaker 4: I think the injuries that he's had, particularly in the
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  Speaker 4: last few years, caught up to him. And as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be a free agent. So I don't
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  Speaker 4: believe there's any doubt that that is another reason why
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  Speaker 4: they went out and acquired Seth Jones. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: think is his days are numbered with the Panthers, and frankly,
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  Speaker 4: his days in the league may be numbered, and I
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  Speaker 4: have to believe that's one reason why he was using
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  Speaker 4: whatever substance he was was to try to recover and
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  Speaker 4: maybe even save his career.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, what are your thought? How you doing now?
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  Speaker 5: So Mark, Mark, I was gonna say, I agree with
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  Speaker 5: Mike what Mike said about, you know, trying to save
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  Speaker 5: his career, because he's been around for a long time
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  Speaker 5: and quite frankly, you know the wear and tear of
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  Speaker 5: last season, playing to the bitter end and getting you
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  Speaker 5: know what two thirds of the way through this season,
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  Speaker 5: almost three quarters of the way through the season. Actually,
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  Speaker 5: I think they are three quarters of the way through.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's pretty well beat up, and whether he's
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  Speaker 5: truly injured or just nicked up, trying to be able
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  Speaker 5: to make it through the rest of the year. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: those guys do that, and what always cracks me up
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  Speaker 5: is they'll be like, I didn't realize I used something
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  Speaker 5: that was banned, Like, yes, you did, you know what you're.
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  Speaker 4: Not allowed to do?
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  Speaker 5: You ask around, they tell you, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: It's too bad, though, because he's had a pretty solid
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  Speaker 5: career as defenseman in the league. He really has. He's
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  Speaker 5: he's been a good backbone for for Florida through thick
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  Speaker 5: and thin. So h yeah, I mean, I agree. I
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  Speaker 5: think he's at the end. He might he might hang
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  Speaker 5: around another year or so just to be a depth
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  Speaker 5: defenseman for somebody, but I don't think it'll be with Florida.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, You're right on the money in that players,
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  Speaker 4: particularly players of his stature, his experience, and what he's
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  Speaker 4: meant to the Panthers since his rookie year, what eleven
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  Speaker 4: years ago, I guess it is now maybe twelve, I
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  Speaker 4: think twelve. They don't they don't make a move when
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  Speaker 4: injured without the club knowing what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, of.
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  Speaker 4: Course there's always a risk. That's this type of thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's out there, but I think the risk was probably
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  Speaker 4: worth whatever reward he could get, both for him and
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  Speaker 4: for the Panthers him to save his career, and for
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  Speaker 4: the Panthers hopefully to maybe find a way to you know,
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  Speaker 4: to keep him in the fold and keep him healthy,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe it will work, maybe it won't work. But
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  Speaker 4: I believe that somehow the Panthers knew this was coming
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  Speaker 4: down the pike before the trade deadline, and that was
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  Speaker 4: another reason why they went out and got Jones, who
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  Speaker 4: was actually a year older than Eckblad, but has a
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  Speaker 4: lot less wear and tear on his body, primarily because
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  Speaker 4: one of the things you mentioned in Barbera, which is
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  Speaker 4: he hasn't played in the playoffs. And this is a
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  Speaker 4: kid Eckblad now who not only did he play till
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  Speaker 4: the end last year, but he played at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the year before strike.
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  Speaker 5: I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 4: Three years in a row playing basically into July doesn't
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  Speaker 4: give you a lot of time to recover and heal
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  Speaker 4: up your injuries in the world of the NHL. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I think this was a I think this was sort
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  Speaker 4: of a last ditch effort to try to get himself back,
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  Speaker 4: maybe save his career, and certainly, you know, at least
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  Speaker 4: try to get into that free agency pool where he
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  Speaker 4: can get one more contract, hopefully for him with a
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  Speaker 4: sizeable amount, but doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say another great move by Bill Zito will at
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  Speaker 1: least gets that challenge when your thoughts George.
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  Speaker 6: Well, eck Glad is the first NHL player to be suspended,
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  Speaker 6: it says for ped use since Nate Schmidt seven years ago,
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  Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, and uh. In fairness to e g Glad,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to just read quickly his one part of
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  Speaker 6: his statement as the NHL announced I've been suspended for
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  Speaker 6: violating the NASH NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances program. The news
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  Speaker 6: that I feel a random drug test was a shock. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 6: I made a mistake by taking something to help me
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  Speaker 6: recover from recent injuries without first checking with proper medical
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  Speaker 6: and team personnel.
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  Speaker 2: There you go right there.
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  Speaker 6: How you can just take something and not check in
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  Speaker 6: with the guys that are there to watch over your
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  Speaker 6: health is beyond me. I mean, you're just it's like
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  Speaker 6: Pandora's box. You do something like that and you're really
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  Speaker 6: asking for trouble, and sure enough he got caught. I
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  Speaker 6: agree with what you said, Mike. I mean he's had
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  Speaker 6: a great career. He has had you know, a strong
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  Speaker 6: influence defensively on the Panthers and what they've been able
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  Speaker 6: to accomplish the last several years. So I really think
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  Speaker 6: that it's a shame for him. But I agree I
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  Speaker 6: do not see him coming back next season, maybe for
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  Speaker 6: sure with the Panthers, and maybe, like you said, the
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  Speaker 6: whole league's reality.
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  Speaker 1: He's not getting in the Hall of Fame, so he
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  Speaker 1: must make as much money as you can to save
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  Speaker 1: your career.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I also think it's you know, in his
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  Speaker 4: statement when he says he he sort of took it
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  Speaker 4: on his own, I don't believe that for a second. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I mean he was suspended for twenty games. Having worked
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  Speaker 4: for NHL teams, you don't let a player of that stature,
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  Speaker 4: particularly is when he's injured and he's coming up to
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  Speaker 4: a juncture like he is of being an unrestricted free agent,
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  Speaker 4: just go off and start taking things on his own.
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  Speaker 4: On the flip side, what would be the penalty to
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  Speaker 4: the Florida Panthers if they were involved in prescribing or
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  Speaker 4: giving him this substance. And so I think that in
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  Speaker 4: that statement there's a little bit there to protect the Panthers. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: they don't they don't get penalized as well as that plaid.
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  Speaker 4: And look, it's all speculation, but chances are there was
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  Speaker 4: a there was a frank, honest discussion between the Panthers,
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  Speaker 4: their training staff, their medical staff, and ex Lad before
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  Speaker 4: all this went down, And you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: try to help you save your career. Maybe you come
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  Speaker 4: become a player for us still in future years, maybe
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  Speaker 4: you can't, but you'll at least be able to continue
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  Speaker 4: to play in the league. But if it doesn't work,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're telling you that it wasn't our choice,
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  Speaker 4: it was your choice.
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  Speaker 5: That was kind of a stand up thing of him
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  Speaker 5: to kind of cover up for the Panthers, though, to
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  Speaker 5: be quite honest with you, you know, like you said, I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure they knew. I'm sure they knew exactly what he
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  Speaker 5: was doing. And you know, that was kind of a
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  Speaker 5: stand up thing in my eyes. Mike, you blew me
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  Speaker 5: away when you told me that him and Seth Jones
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  Speaker 5: were came in to the league at the same time.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I don't look at you. Jones is an
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  Speaker 5: older player just because he's never been around the playoffs
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  Speaker 5: or anything like that that much.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you want Blackhawk.
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  Speaker 4: Mark Jones was a two thousand, uh thirteen pick and
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  Speaker 4: Eckblad was a twenty fourteen pick. And I know that
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  Speaker 4: because I was part of the group and we passed
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  Speaker 4: on Jones for Barkoff in that and and and and
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  Speaker 4: the following year when I was still.
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  Speaker 3: At the club. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: The reason why bark uh Glad was picked was because
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  Speaker 4: we got the center in Barkoff the year before, and
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  Speaker 4: now here we had another franchise type right handed big defenseman.
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  Speaker 4: So it worked out perfectly in getting bark Off and
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  Speaker 4: then getting Eckblad. Had I'll say we because I was
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  Speaker 4: there at the time taking Jones that first year, I
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  Speaker 4: don't I don't know what the future of the team
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  Speaker 4: would have been because there would have been no need
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  Speaker 4: to take an act plaid the following year, and then
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  Speaker 4: we wouldn't have had Barkoff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys the question. Do you guys
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  Speaker 1: remember that show Truth for Consequences?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Barker.
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  Speaker 1: Bob Barker hosted it before he went to the Prices, Right,
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  Speaker 1: guess what Truth for Consequences all over again.
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  Speaker 3: I had to throw that out there. Not only that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll talk about Alexander Barkoff for a moment's not
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  Speaker 1: a topic. Tonight had the opportunity to go to the
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  Speaker 1: FAU game against East Carolina and he happen to be
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  Speaker 1: sitting to port side and Kandy Eve he was able
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  Speaker 1: to get a picture over there. Learned this for at
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  Speaker 1: Atlantic University. I was sitting all the way in the
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  Speaker 1: back by the scoreboards. I didn't see him, but Candy
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  Speaker 1: doesn't miss a beat when it comes to taking those
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  Speaker 1: pictures back to the chat room. I Knowndy Trader's in there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand why Flora Trader Marshaw was on his
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  Speaker 1: last flight to get to that. In the moment, Joshua
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  Speaker 1: Door was going on Southworth for me and you are
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  Speaker 1: because the show you want to be on Hockey Show, Eddie,
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  Speaker 1: because they gave us nothing. He's a veteran and winning
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  Speaker 1: cup presidents on the team. The Mankion still play, especially
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  Speaker 1: playoff time. We're going to get to that great transition
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  Speaker 1: for these guys, which obviously is a Brad Marshaan topic
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  Speaker 1: needs a sixth player in twenty years be traded in
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  Speaker 1: seasoned from the club where he's played now with the
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  Speaker 1: acquisition of former Boston Bruins captain Brad Marshawan, who was
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  Speaker 1: actually leading will be Florida Panthers be enough to get
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  Speaker 1: to their second Stanley Cup. And here's the thing. Marshawn
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  Speaker 1: missed the three to two loss in Boston last night
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  Speaker 1: and then he's going to be out at least two
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  Speaker 1: weeks because of an injury. So here's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of information on him, and then I'll turn it over
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 1: You've got the fourth most playoff goals behind active players
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  Speaker 1: Alexandro Bench who's got seventy two, Sidney Crosby's seventy one,
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  Speaker 1: if Jenny Maulk at sixty seven, and you've got thirteen
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  Speaker 1: game winning goals in Stanley Cup up playoffs behind and
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  Speaker 1: he signed with Maulkin and Andre.
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  Speaker 3: A lot a lot to digest there.
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  Speaker 1: So George, I'll start off with you, what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about marsh On. We'll keep it down to one question.
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  Speaker 1: It's eas going to be the guy that could lead
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  Speaker 1: the Florida Panthers to their second grade title. Albeit he's
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  Speaker 1: hurt at the moment, but let's they still have a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of time.
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  Speaker 6: Georgie, Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's quite emotional for
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  Speaker 6: him too, even though he couldn't play since the trade
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  Speaker 6: and returning to Boston for the first time, and that
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  Speaker 6: was rather quickly obviously, that happened a couple of nights ago.
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  Speaker 6: But I think, you know, if he can still play
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  Speaker 6: and his injury is sealed, yes, he can definitely help
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  Speaker 6: that team out. He's approven nhltought I call him, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's Yeah, he's had up and down years
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  Speaker 6: like everybody, but he definitely can still skate with the
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  Speaker 6: best of them and still maintain that high level of
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  Speaker 6: intensity as we all know is needed in the Stanley
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  Speaker 6: Cup playoffs. I'm going to keep my remarks brief, but
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  Speaker 6: four time All Star Ruins, career leader and playoff short
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  Speaker 6: handed all the time goals, Yes, he can help Florida
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  Speaker 6: win it.
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  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 5: About you, Mark, I think he's going to be irreplaceable
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  Speaker 5: for Boston because he brought some intangibles that really made
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  Speaker 5: that team click, and I think Florida got I think
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  Speaker 5: Florida got a bargain when they got him. To be
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  Speaker 5: honest with you, he's going to be that greedy guy
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  Speaker 5: to take some of the pressure waves from some of
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  Speaker 5: the other greedy guys in the playoffs once they get rolling.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, as a Penguin fan, you hate you hate Marshawn,
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  Speaker 5: you know, but I mean you got to respect what
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  Speaker 5: he does on the ice. He goes hard, He gets
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  Speaker 5: in people's heads. He reminds me a lot of like
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  Speaker 5: a Darius Casparitis from that perspective, where he can throw
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  Speaker 5: you off on your game just by doing what he does.
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  Speaker 5: But he has some skill at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 5: And I like what Florida did acquiring him. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I think that was a great pickup for them.
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  Speaker 3: What do you name Mike Well?
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  Speaker 4: First, on the Boston side of things, I mean, from
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  Speaker 4: what I understand, they offered him a contract worth six
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  Speaker 4: million dollars a year and he turned it down. And obviously,
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  Speaker 4: not only did he turn it down, but there wasn't
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  Speaker 4: they weren't close enough to try to negotiate something to
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  Speaker 4: keep him in Boston. Maybe he overplayed his hand. Let's see.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's in his thirties now, He's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of mileage on that guy. He's another guy that don't
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  Speaker 4: remember has played deep into the playoffs pretty much every
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  Speaker 4: year of his fourteen or fifteen year career. He plays
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  Speaker 4: hard as you guys mentioned he's you know, he's not
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  Speaker 4: a guy that plays on the outside and he's not
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  Speaker 4: a big guy. So it'll be interesting to see if
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  Speaker 4: that money is there for him in the marketplace. I'll
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the same agent or the same agency,
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  Speaker 4: Newport Sports that represents guys like Steven Stamcos for instance.
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  Speaker 4: The creditors, what I think would admit now they overpaid
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  Speaker 4: for last summer as a as a mid thirty, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the mid thirties, and as a free agent. So
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  Speaker 4: I don't blame Boston for moving on. I mean they've
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  Speaker 4: got to They've got to turn that ship around. They've
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  Speaker 4: been known in the past to hang out for guys
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  Speaker 4: too long, guys like Bergeron for instance, and at some
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  Speaker 4: point you've got to pull the plug and you've got
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  Speaker 4: to rebuild. And I don't think I don't think they could.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they could afford to take a chance
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  Speaker 4: on Marshaw at this point in his career for that much. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I also give Boston credit because apparently they went to
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  Speaker 4: Marshawan and the agent and said, Okay, we're not going
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  Speaker 4: to get a deal done with you. Where would you
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  Speaker 4: like to go Marshawn said that he would like to
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  Speaker 4: go to Florida, and who goes to Florida forgetting a
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  Speaker 4: guy that in some capacity may fill in and may
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  Speaker 4: have to fill in for Kuchuk. I mean, he brings
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  Speaker 4: that same nasty, sandpaper type of game that you need
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  Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Now he's injured with a reported concussion,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, his prognosis is they'll be back a
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  Speaker 4: lot sooner than Kutchuk will be, and so they need
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  Speaker 4: that element. He's not a center like Kuchuk, but he's
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: still probably the best thing they could have found, you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: for the trade deadline to bring the element that they
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: need down the playoffs, and there's very little, you know.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: They obviously they gave up some some stuff, including including
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: a draft pick that could become a first round pick
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: if if Florida goes on into uh into the playoffs
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: and Marshawn plays, but that pick will be a relatively
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: low pick in the first round, so it's not it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: not a huge gamble for them. If not, it'll be
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: come a second round pick. And if he doesn't work out,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: they don't have to resign him either, right right, going
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to the market and we'll see, we'll see what his
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: market is. It wouldn't surprise me if Marshall went into
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: the marketplace, particularly if Florida doesn't make a long run
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs, or if he's done a big part
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: of it. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes back
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: in the marketplace, takes a haircut, maybe even returns to
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Boston for or less than what they offered him before.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: If he has some success with Florida, then I think
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: there's a chance that that he'll resign here in Florida,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: but it'll be again less for that that's six million
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: that he was offered in Boston.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll make my time in short and sleep because Mike,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I knew that great minds thinking like and you definitely
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: were able to say, well on my mind, more power
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to you. But first of all, he is a rental
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: as it stands at the moment, and right now he
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: will be back for a couple weeks. I give the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Panthers credit for making the move. To want to win now.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You have to show your fan base that you're willing
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to win now. And this is the guy who's a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: popular choice to come here to Florida. Whether or not
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: they get him resigned. I do predict to go back
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to Boston, but you need to find out what your
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: market really is. And once you find out what your
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: market really is, and you find out, all right, well
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't as bad as it could have been. Obviously,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Florida has no state income tax, so you're save it
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit of money here. But Boston, you know
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you're going to get your number retired at some point
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: down the road. And you already had I believe we
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: had the Stanley cupp or so anyways me up in Boston.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So now can he win another one with another club?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: It remains to be seen. But more power to both sides,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and they carry it is a draft choice. I don't
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: know how they're going to turn out, But Boston, some
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: teams don't understand that you have to let guys go
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: before you want to in an effort to try to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: save on the economics and build a little bit and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: give other players an opportunity and think Boston as a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: serious playoff threat. And if they do, they're going to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: get in on the back end anyway, not the front end.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a win win for both sides.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: It shows a Panther fan base are willing to try
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: give it a shot, Like you say, with Matthew K. Chuck,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: That'll be interesting to see how this plays out. This
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: will not be the last time that we definitely talk
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about it for sure. All Right, this is a part
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of the show where Mike Santo is an opportunity to
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: give us an update about what's going on over at
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Hockey Operations. Go Ahead, Mikero Plorser.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: We're still moving ahead with a number of our projects.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Team thirty three, of course, which is our hockey operations
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: management software. We're hoping to have an announcement this coming
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: summer that we've a watched the product to the marketplace
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: for consumers. So if and when that happens, I think
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I think there'll be a nice product out there, especially
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: for hockey fans that have favorite teams they want to manage,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: or maybe a fantasy team they want to manage. It'll
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: be a lot of fun to use. So we've also
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: we're moving ahead with our television production company Entertainment, and
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: we're in production now for episodes of Sports Jobs and
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: one of the other things. I don't know if we've
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: mentioned too, but we actually have a little T shirt company,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: which is a Boston based company called Boston Tea Company,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: which we sell a lot of nostalgic T shirts from
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: back in the day of popular places in and around Boston.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: So that's where we're at, all.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna go to a station break. Candy, go ahead,
• 22:27
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• 22:28
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• 22:31
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• 22:35
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• 23:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Candy, let's start off with Ralph William for
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Crosby and Malkin. You know it, all right, Ralph, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: know it, you know, so was everybody else. I'm gonna
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: just read him down. As we moved to the topic Penguins,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the Grady players like the Panthers, it's just take it
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to success. George who Boris says there's no limit to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: how long the top athlete can produce. Look at Lebron
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and Ronaldo.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Lebron James is a freakish athlete. Marshawn production has been
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: going on in the last couple of years. That's probably
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: why the Bruins wanted to let him. Tested value of
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the Panthers gamble. We'll see how it all plays out.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Interesting that Fenway owns the Bruins. Is it they owned
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the Bruises? I thought they owned the Red Sox.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Fenway Family Sports Group oms the Pittsburgh Penguins. They own
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: the the Boston Red Sox, but they don't own the Bruins, right.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't think so either. Okay, anyways, Ralph got it
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: out there. Little clarification. One guy that we talked about
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: on this show a few weeks ago, and he's definitely
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: worth mentioning to night.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Stephen A.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Smith, Danuel his aav His contract is worth twenty million
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: dollars in the US. Austin Matthews is the highest play
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the NHL guy with thirteen point two five US dollars
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: for the Toronto Maples. Can you believe that? What about
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith earning more than Awestome Matthew do you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: ever watched Steven A. Smith at my Mike?
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Of course, of course.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith makes more than Austin Matthews because he
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: makes more money for ESPN than Austin Matthews makes for
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the Toronto Mapleas. I think it's that simple, you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: especially in today's NHL system under the collective barding agreement,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the players have a fifty to fifty split of revenue,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and that's you know, a large part of how the
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: salary cap has figured out each year.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So if if.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Players start creating more revenue to share, then they'll get
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: paid more. Stephen A. Smith, love them or hate them,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: brings in a lot of money I think for ESPN.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know that watch this guy every day from
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: ten to twelve, and I do learn a lot from
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: him and opportunity to see him over the Super Bowl.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: He took a nice picture together that will be in
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Lessons on the Microphone Part two. It's kind of neat now,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I know how about you, Mike, but any journalist likes
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to look at other journalists out there just kind of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: shadow get some ideas. See if you can take some
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of their good things of bringing on himself and steven A. Smith,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you're going to make that much more money. Can you
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: imagine how a Twitter followers this guy at now the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: other business interests, it just blows them out. But Austin
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Matthews is good for hockey and you get thirteen million
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: dollars in the NHL is not bad.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Work if you can get it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And hey, the first takes credit when four nations are
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: going on, and what do we have, PK Suban He
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: was getting steven A. Smith a little bit involved in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: this game that we call on frozen pond. All right,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Mary Day, what do you think about Steven Ah Smith
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and Austin Matthews.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: ESPN has no salary caps, so whatever they felt his
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: value was, that's what they paid them. Bottom line, NHL
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: has a salary camp. They got to work within the parameters.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: They deemed Toronto deemed Austin Matthews to be their top dog.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: They paid him like it. That salary cap of the
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: NHL over the next three years is gonna is gonna
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: increase quite a bit. And that thirteen million dollars in
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Matthews is making somebody's gonna be making a lot more
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: than that at some point real soon. But uh yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Stephen A. Smith is loud, brash
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: and fun to watch. I'll say that much. I liked
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I liked his confrontation. I fixed his confrontation with Lebron.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: But was it last week? Lebron being a dad? Stephen A.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: Smith saying, Look, I'm gonna call it the way I
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: see it. But you know, I do think he deserves
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: to be paid. I don't know twenty million, but he
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: deserves to be paid.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Growing on me, all right, George, Well, we know that
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: hockey lags behind some of the other sports for sure
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: as far as salaries goes.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: So that's that doesn't come as a total shock to me.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: The thirteen point twenty five, I believe you said for
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Austin steven A.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Smith.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're keeping him as best they can happy they
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: want to. Unfortunately, ESPN has shown the door to so
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: many other talented men.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And women that have been on and off the air.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: But when you got a guy like that, that's like your
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Walter Cronkite, your Tom Brokaw, you're Peter Jennings, I mean
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: you got to pay him top dollar and steven A.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Smith deserves it. Like you said, Scott, I.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Mean that's intriguing, intriguing talk and discussion, and he works
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: hard at his profession. So you might not like his
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: style or his personality sometimes, but damn he's a good journalist.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Well let's go to any comment. Can't avoid it. I mean, I,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like any brather, you can't watch Steven A. Smith without
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: want to shoot my TV. That's how he really feels.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're probably.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Not alone with that. Although I'm not going to be
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: one of them.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I'm learning too much about him, but I totally get it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Any I put it out there, I didn't even mind
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: making it because it is what it is. Okay, him
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and Nick right now, I don't know much about Nick right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: don't watch him much. Even it's right about Pranie all,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: there's no question about that. Don't compare Smith. So those
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: legitimate nudgeons, okay, fair enough, didn't enough? Okay, but I'll
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: tell you another inspiring story that did come out of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the Four Nations face off, and it was actually pretending
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the two Montreal Canadians teammates who got home mice in Montreal.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Those are Joel ar Mia and Patrick Lane. What are
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: your thoughts about that? That you have two guys that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: are teammates playing over in Montreal, Mike, that is quite inspiring,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: isn't it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I mean it's it's it's great, and it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: interesting that both of them saw the bench pretty quickly
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: in the Four Nations as well. But yeah, I mean
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Patrick Lean, if people don't realize that he and his
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: wife have done quite a bit to help not only athletes,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: but people who have have some issues, head issues, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: so to be commended. Yeah, great, great friendship, both playing
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: in Montreal, now both on the finished team at the
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: UH as the Four Nations. I have nothing but nothing
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: but good thoughts when you see all that good inspiring.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Sorry, and every now and then I'm going to pick
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: out a topic for the Four Nations because there's so
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: many storylines we couldn't get to before. If I've seen
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a opportunity of bringing up I'm going to do it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: This one just having to pop across my test to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: do that. Mark, So, what are your thoughts about these
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: two guys.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I've always been a Patrick Landey fan. I've always thought
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: he was a pretty terrific hockey player. Getting to play
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: in the Four Nations as well as play in the
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: regular season with with one of your Gumbas, as I
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: like to call him. There's probably a lifelong memory. That's
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: something you always want to do somebody that you are
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: familiar with, one of your countrymen. You play both places
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: them at least the lasting memory, and it builds a
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: bond like no other. You know, Montreal has got to
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: get this all figured out, but I think those guys
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: are a couple of guys that can help them down
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: the road to put them back on the map. And yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: that's my thoughts.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Charge Well, you know, Lane's been hurt. I mean he's
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: been in thirty five games this year, correct, But yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: he's still a good player. And certainly it is kind
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: of cool when you can do that together, it really is.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: And you know, Mootreal has had a much better year.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I mean they're thirty one, twenty seven and seven, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: they are in the fight like the Red Wings and
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: several other teams for that final playoff spot. So I
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: think that these guys, any guy really that went to
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: that for Nations and participated, brings back great memories. Maybe
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: they didn't win, but got a chance to play on
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: the world stage, and certainly these two fellows did as well.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: On my trail.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Great story we can talk about it one last after
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the night Jack Huesll not return the season after undergoing
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: shoulder surgery on long term injured reserve might break for
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the Devils.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and another casualty of the four Nations that again
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: was a terrific event for ten days, was certainly better
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: than an All Star game. But now we're seeing some
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: of the some of the issues that they are rearing
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: their ugly heads as we go on. The Panthers have
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: a big one themselves, and now the Devils have one,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: and this is the stuff they'll be discussed when they
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: go forward with four nations. It's also right or wrong
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: the reason why players in all sports tell you that
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: they don't really want to bust there behind in and
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: all our game because it's and we saw it happened,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: and I don't think this is the last one that's
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: it's going to come out of that four Nations.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Roy Lee clacking to have you on. Dougan Hamill been
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: out for the rest of the season. In the playoffs,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: listened a little bit about Royally class. He actually covers
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the La Kings and the Anaheim Ducks, so we're gonna
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: have him on once in a while. On the show
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: as well. Thanks for chiming in, Royally Clack. We appreciate it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: So it's good anytime you can find people Mike on
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the West Coast that don't want to come on every
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: now and then fill in. Depending on who's ever on,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I'll you can bring them out. With all of us,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: there's four of us, and I always use a fifth
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: one every once in a while. Royally Clack has come in,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: but I'm glad he's able to chime in the chat
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: room and make himself familiar with the audience. Sure, but yeah, Mike,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: with all due respect, Jack Hughes is another by product
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of the four Nations and it's just totally unfortunate. But
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: i will say this, the NHL gave it there all
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: during this competition, and when you look at the other
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: All Star Games and their respective formats, they're still bad
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and the number is certainly back in NHL. And this
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: is a coordination tournament was really a coming out party
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: as far as I controw, the NHL putting itself on
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the map to be able to showcase a lot of
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: it starts. Mike can bring up comes a great points
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: that you do every time we have Anyways, I'm just reinforced.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So what you already said dead stuff really seriously really
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and by the way, that cap will be coming out
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for you. You'll see it, so I don't have to
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: talk about it and say that thing called the vocal Fords,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: although who knows are savable a diffarticular point. All right, Mark,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: talk about Jack the man.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Hughes second shoulder surgery, right, you don't want that to
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: be a reoccurring thing. He's a great young talent. You know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: all the used boys can play hockey, let's put it
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: that way. And New Jersey's putting together something special over
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: there as well. They really they've got some great young
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: talent there. That's definitely gonna hurt them without a question.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: But I'm more concerned with that kid. Uh, Like I said,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: second surgery, like that long run. I hope it's not
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: an thing that that keeps coming back to him.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a terrible blow for the devils of course.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he's twenty three years old, he's
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: got what seventy points. I think this year is close
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it.
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  Speaker 6: Is a tough tough pill to swallow anytime you have
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  Speaker 6: an injury, but especially when it occurs in an event
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  Speaker 6: like that.
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  Speaker 2: I really think that Jack is going to bounce back.
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, obviously he's on long term injury reserve right now,
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: but he's such a good player. He's really works hard,
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: and he really really has a lot of talent and
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: can really muck it up what he has to and
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: do the things he has to do to win. Unfortunately
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: for the Devils, you know, they're left in a tough
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: position losing that that that top gun of theirs. But anyways, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's unfortunate Scott, but he'll be back. I know he'll
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  Speaker 6: be back stronger than ever, hopefully in in in the
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  Speaker 6: summertime or training camp time next fall.
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  Speaker 1: One last thing I want to mention here Eliz ovechmans
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: maanchic number to break Wayne Kretschky at nine. Mike, when
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: do you think he's going to break this record? This
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: guy's on a roll.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe this weekend if he keeps going the way he's going.
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  Speaker 4: But no, I mean, I think it's almost certain he'll
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  Speaker 4: do it by the end of the season. I mean,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: he's obviously on a mission to do it as well.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: You know, he he's not out there just playing his
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: game and letting the goals come as as they come.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's never been that type of a player.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, he he loves to score and he seeks
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: out the opportunity to score and that's that's what he does.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: So I don't think I don't think there's any doubt
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  Speaker 4: that he'll do it before the end of the season.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: And is that that means within the next three weeks
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: or so.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: And when you think Gordy Howell was untouchable, Wayne Presty's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: untouchable and l Alan vechan is on the verge of
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: mean number one, to think about the one guy that
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: did benefit from not playing that four Nations with him
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: because Russia wasn't in. All he did was something rest Well,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that's a good way to segue over to maridate right
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: when we're talking about Mexican.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited for him to break that record. I
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: really am. He doesn't do much on the ice, but
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: he sits in that he sits in that circle, waits
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: for that feed and rips that rister man. Can he
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: get it done still? I mean, he's a strong guy.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: I find it hard to believe though he said he's
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: gonna play out his contract twenty five to twenty six.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: I almost think that he might second guess himself if
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: he breaks this record this year as to whether he'll
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: come back next year. But if he does, that's fine, because,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: like I said, he really doesn't do much on the
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: ice but score right now, you know. But I'm excited
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: for him like that is a huge accomplishment. I always
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: looked at him as like a bread Hall type of guy,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: but he's an excelled Bred Hall at this point.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Is he a Lebron type of guy? No?
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: You know what, Mike, I'm gonna say this. I think
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Ovechkin still could lay the hammer if he really wanted to.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: He's not going to go down. Look how quick he
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: came back from his leg injury Lebron. Did you know
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: that Lebron hasn't played in the NBA for four straight
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: years in the month of March. No, four straight years,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: which blows me away. You would never see an NHL
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: guy do something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: No, I agree with you completely when it comes to that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: But I only say that because you've got a couple
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: of guys in their forties. They're basically they're basically from
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: the same generation. Their careers have almost mirrored each other.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: As far as the time that they've played in the league,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: and they both started as what eighteen nineteen year olds,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: and they're both gonna maybe break scoring plateaus in the
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: same season twenty plus years into their career. It's uh,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of different game in basketball as it
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: is in hockey today. There weren't too many guys playing
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: twenty two years at all at all.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: So I do think hockey will fill the the ill
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: effects of when he leaves, when Crosby leaves, I feel
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: like hockey will fill the ill effects. I don't see.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I don't see McDavid. I don't see those guys taking
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: on that role like those guys did, making people tune
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: into watching them play the game.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think that's really a subject because
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: what if McDavid was drafted and was playing in the
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: United States?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, great point that really is.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: He's not hiding Edmonton, Mike, He really think about it, right,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: if he's in an American market?
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Do you say that, Mark? I think Mike's really on
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: what that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: What if Obi and Crosby ended up being kicked by
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Ottawa or Edmonton, you know, saying that they wouldn't have
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: had great great career. Still, they certainly would have maybe
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: those teams, they would have led those teams to cups,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: but would they have the impact on, you know, the
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: US hockey audience that those guys have had over these
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: years because they've played in places like Washington and Pittsburgh.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Not only that, but they played in the same division
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: and had lots of heated had to have games, including
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: playoff series, which I think really did a lot of
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: good for hockey. I mean, look at the difference between
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: you know, Gretzky in La versus Gretzky and Edwardson. And
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: arguably more success in Edmonton than he did in LA.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: But he did more for the game in LA than
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: he did Edington.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Excellent points.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: If I can hand out exclamation points on that, Mike,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: he probably had about a handful of them, because that's true.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: What he did to grow hockey on the West Coast
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: led obviously Vegas getting it team the Coyotes for a
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: period of time, and everything out in Dallas. He opened
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: up doors out on that and of course now we
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: can even say the crack and a result of what
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Resky did out in LA. And of course let's not
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: forget the San Jose market as well. He definitely opened
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: up the West Coast market for sure. And you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: but I want to say one thing marked to you
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: when you were saying about Soveskin. I do think that
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: he does play out one more year his NHL contract,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and I could see him playing in his country the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: final year. I really have a gut feeling that's going
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to happen. I know they've talked about it, but we
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: could probably devote a topic to that. But it's funny
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: how you mentioned the contract that I just wanted to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: throw my two cents in there as well. Everybody's on
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: point with what they're saying, just sometimes Mike. You know
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: how they say you have to roll with a gut
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: feeling in your instincts and you make certain comments and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: those are some of the things that I have. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: obviously you've been in the game, Mike, way longer than
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I have. On the inside as well what you're doing.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: So we all try to bring something unique to the table.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: But you're right, Mike Retsky did more to the game
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of hockey playing in LA I mean, Marcel Gian was
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: hidden out there, but it wasn't with the Red Wings.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: But yet he was a heck of a player out
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in La. Right, It wasn't until Gretzky got out there
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: that La was even known or anything other than palm
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: trees and Hollywood, the Hollywood stars. Greg, you turned it around.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: One thing that Mark said that you can't overlook, and
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: that is that and Crosby they played the game the
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: right way. They didn't play on the outside. Ove'ska maybe
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: not as much now as when he was younger, but
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: those guys were looking for contact. They were not shying
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: away from it. They played the game the right way always.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Career, Mike, let me ask you this, since we're in
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: a row with.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: This, I got a talk. Still don't forget me.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: I won't, I won't, but I gotta ask Mike this.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Do you think that if Connor McDavid actually had a
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: nemesis kind of like uh, Crosby and Ovechkin. Word you
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: think if he had a nemesis it would do something
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: more for his career, even though he's in Canada.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I think it might help. But again, I mean, look
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: at look at that great series last year, and if
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: he had a nemesis, who would be a better nemesis
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: than to Chuck? He played against them Calgary and Edmonton
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: which is more than in the sport, and then last
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: year they meet in the finals, right, Yeah, I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I think it's just the exposure of him to the
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: US audience, which is really you know, holding this holding
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: him back more than anything else. I think, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I think he's he's right out there, you know, with
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: all of the greats when it comes to talent and skill,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: But to this point in his career, he just hasn't
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: had that exposure. And and you're right too, I mean,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: these guys just don't come along. I was talking to
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: an NHL general manager this morning who's in the process
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: of rebuilding, and you know, he was asking in my
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: thoughts on you know, basically, how do you do it?
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: You know, like we just talked about Mark John and
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Bruins finally cut ties with him. They got to rebuild.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Like do you count on doing it through the draft? Well,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: you can't really necessarily do that because number one, in
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: the world of hockey, you're you're drafting eighteen year old players.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: You're looking at them when they're sixteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: years old. You're trying to gauge what they're going to
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: be like when they're twenty four and twenty five years old.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the first part of the exact science.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: The second part is you just happily have to You
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: have to get lucky and have that pick when that
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: guy's there. I mean, everybody thought Connor Berdard was going
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: to be the next NHL superstar savior. I'm not so
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: sure he's going to be that in Chicago. I think
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I think San Jose, who actually lost the draft lottery
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: to Chicago ended up with a with a better situation
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: now with celebreedy.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's tough, you know.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: So. Yeah, it's just it's just the dynamics of building
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: hockey clubs and the sport and the way the draft works.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: You can't you can't count on building your team through
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: the draft. When you're looking at kids and you're you know,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: you're trying to you know, hopefully you're you know, you
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: draft you're bad, and you draft early. When when that
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: superstar happens to come out every twenty or twenty five years,
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: like to me.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: A favorite, give Kyle Dubis a call and share those
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: thoughts with their please.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: All right, well, you know what, I'll give George Iikorn
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk about alex ovention. Go ahead, Georgia's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: intentionally that's okay, Hey, listen, I don't interrupt anything where
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you have good dialogue going. I gotta I gotta give
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: ge his shot there, Kyle sub all right.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a close call. Okay. You look
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: at a vein and what he's doing.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: Now, Okay, guys, he's got no goals, then he's got
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: one that he's got no, and then he's got one
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: that he's got no.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: He is on in every game goal pace.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: It's going to be very close to get to Gretzky's
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: mark eight to tie nine, to exceed, he has to
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: come up with some multi goal games in my opinion
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: to be able to do it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: But he has helped that team out so much.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: Now, this is a team that fought like hell to
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: defeat my Red Wings last year on the final day
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: of the year.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And look at what they did. Okay, help steviee Wier
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: is looking at this.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: Forty three wins for Washington and fourteen losses and eight
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: overtime losses.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: It's just a tremendous, tremendous oh my god.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, they have really put things together and of
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: course it all counts more as we know in the
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Stanley Cup playoffs. But Alex's role and what he does
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: to that team is just tremendous. All I'm saying is
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: his pace is not as big as it used to be.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to need a couple of multi
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: goal games to break the record.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: All right, as you get ready to wrap up the
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