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84. Goosebumps TV Series: The Haunted Mask · Notable Nostalgia

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  I thought it was interesting because Ali said that an actor was in Are the
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  Goosebumps and then was in Are You Afraid of the Dark? So I thought
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  it was really cool that they took a Nickelodeon star, Michelle Trackenberg and then
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  used her to make a mask. I thought that, yeah, that was
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  interesting. I'm Ali, I'm Andy, I'm Jeff, and I'm Ria and
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  this is notable nostalgia listeners. Beware you're in for a scare. Nostalgia nerds.
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  Thanks for joining us today. Un notable nostalgia. I have Andy,
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  Jeff, and Ria with me to discuss the nineteen ninety five TV series Goosebumps
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  and it's debut special, The Haunted Mask. So fill me in Goosebumps,
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  what's your relationship growing up? Now? Where yet? I've always gotten goose
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  Bumps and Are You Afraid of the Dark mixed up? But after watching this
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  one, I was thinking, other than the ernest s Garrett stupid, that
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  theme song might be one of like the for the Goosebumps is one of the
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  dopest scary theme songs of all time. It's really good. Yes, yeah,
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  I didn't ever watch this growing up. I always get this entails from
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  the Crypt mixed up, which is two wildly different like levels of maturity,
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  right, which is why I was always like, how did how were you
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  allowed to watch this? Cause, like to me, I'm like, my
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  mom never let me watch Tales from the Crypt, and so that's what I
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  have in mind when I think of the level of scariness, and so I'm
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  just like Jesus Christ, how did you guys watch this? And then oh,
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  it's something different? Yeah, Jeff, I never watched Goosebumps, Like
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  I must have completely slept on this because I watched Are You Afraid of the
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  Dark growing up. I don't even know what channel this was on, Like,
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  do you guys know Nickelodeon? This was on Nickelodeon too, I think
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  so right? No Fox Kids, Oh oh yeah, I never even heard
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  about it. I knew about Goosebumps because I think he got rebooted not too
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  long ago, because Jackson watched it. But no, I never watched this.
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  I knew Goosebumps like the books hardcore, but like not not this.
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  But there is an episode it might be Tales of the Crypt, but Cheap
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  Trick was on it. I think I'm not sure, but if it is,
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  I have to look it up. They're pretending to be a different rock
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  band. They're drinking, and then they throw like a TV out of a
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  How do you not knowing the cheap trick fan that you are? Like,
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  I don't know if it's the if it's Tales of the Crypt or another one
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  of those scary shows like this is what could happen? I can't really remember,
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  but I don't know. I got look that up. Now I'm trying
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  to look it up. I can't find it all right, So have we
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  answered the question did any of us watch this growing up? I was.
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  I watched more of the other already Pray of the Dark. Okay, how
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  about the books? Yeah, I read one or two of the books,
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  but I looked at all of them because the cover art was fucking dope on
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  every single of the books. It's fair. I thought it was a really
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  cool way to like encourage kids to to read, because horror genre for kids,
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  I didn't I don't think there was very much of that. So I
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  thought it was a really cool way to get kids like I always remember like
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  the like the little fairs that came into into yeah, book Fair, Yeah,
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  and Goosebumps was was that? And animals were like the jam to get
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  so I really like that. Yeah. Do you remember Goosebumps being sold out
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  or rented out a lot in the library like I remember? Yeah, So
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  I don't, yeah, because it was like the popular book. I guess
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  in a way. Man, those book fairs are sick though. Yeah,
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  I thought was really When I was rewatching this, I thought it was so
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  cool that there was this nineties kids horror like boom that happened with the books,
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  with the with the shows. I thought that was so cool. And
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  I watched Tales from the Crypt and growing up, and I didn't think it
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  was too It was a lot more gruesome, for sure, but uh,
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  but it wasn't. It wasn't so bad like if it came out now.
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  Yeah, but I think it's so cool that there was. And they also
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  didn't have fully a meaning behind it, like it wasn't just for teaching like
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  life lessons to kids. Sure, yeah, like it was just for entertainment
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  mainly. Yeah, And when I was watching, I don't know how to
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  if I can articulate, but I thought it was really cool that in the
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  nineties, and it could just because I'm older, I'm not watching it now.
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  But I felt like in the nineties there were more like acting positions geared
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  more towards kids like that, but it wasn't like I don't see I don't
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  know. It's probably just because I'm older, but there's so many different channels
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  coming out with so many different things that like you could be a kid and
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  find something that you've really enjoyed. I don't know, maybe the same now,
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  but I just don't see that many live action things anymore. But I'm
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  also not looking for it, so they're very it's a very like having like
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  a twelve year old, Like it's a very niche genre right now, and
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  it's a very certain type of kid. And like I watched a couple episodes
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  of Goosebumps, Like after I watched these two episodes, I watched more and
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  it's like real looking kids. Yeah, yeah, so I think that's really
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  cool. And the same thing with the the other shows that we talked about,
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  like the Pete and pet or all that and all these other shows did
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  around the same time, there was kids in different sizes, different backgrounds,
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  but unfortunately now it's like pretty much one yeah, you get like that one
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  one series that is a little bit more diverse. But other than that,
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  it's pretty well. I felt like to kid with all these different live action
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  things, like I remember the thinking like daydreaming like, oh, that'd be
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  so cool to be an actor, you know, And I just don't know
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  if they have that anymore. So I don't know, it's just weird.
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  I think it is just a level of manufactured type of child actor versus like
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  any kid could have been on a TV show back in the day. It
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  feels like and yeah, so and I think that goes from like the early
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  nineties with Nickelodeon experimenting, because now they already know, like, hey,
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  we've done this for you know, thirty years, we know what sells,
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  what brings kids in. But in the early nineties they were still trying to
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  experiment. So there's so many different varieties. I think that might have been
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  the fun of it. But yeah, I don't know. But even it's
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  been well one thing too to like keep in mind with like this show Are
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  You Afraid of the Dark fifteen which you just reviewed, These are all Canadian
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  series as well, So these are all Canadian actors production and that kind of
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  stuff. Oh that's cool. I did not know that. Why why do
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  you think they did that. I think cheaper maybe, yeah, I think
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  it's the price of like Canada is eating the cost of production, and then
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  Nickelodeon and these other networks are just paying the fee to pick it up,
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  you know. Okay, Well, I was a big fan of the books
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  growing up. I definitely watched the series growing up. I definitely had some
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  like unlocked memories. Nostalgia kind of fled in a little bit when rewatching this
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  because it's been quite a long time. But and then Rhea definitely no,
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  yeah, yeah, anything. I think I think I might have seen one
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  episode when I was like staying over at a friend's house. But I was
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  always more into like the animorph series as far as like books I wasn't allowed
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  to read, you know, Goosebumps. Which is interesting because now watching like
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  this episode, I'm like, well, it's really like trying to teach a
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  moral lesson and I'm like, what was my mom so afraid of? But
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  you know, you know, there's there's always that level of is the devil
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  going to get my show? So so yeah, so I didn't. I
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  didn't ever grow up watching this and now watching it now, of course I
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  have known nostalgia goggles and I'm like, this was terrible. Yeah, we'll
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  go into why it could be pretty bad or have some nostalgia. I wanted
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  to do a quick background on just Goosebumps and arl Stein. So arl Stein
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  wrote sixty two ghost Bumps books and their original run between nineteen ninety two and
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  nineteen ninety seven, and Mahn and Mass was his eleven book in that anthology.
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  And then this is a YTV series. So YTV also doing shows like
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  fifteen or Already Afraid of the Dark that debuts on Fox on October twenty seventh,
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  nineteen ninety five, and it debut is a special, so an hour
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  long special, this two part episode, and then the series went on to
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  do in the Fox Kids block. But the first one was on Fox and
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  it had seven point nine million households tuning in to watch it. When does
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  that rank? Is that a lot? Not not a lot? H in
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  comparison to a lot of other shows. And it aired the next day in
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  Canada on YTV with additional three million viewers, which apparently was their biggest episode
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  of that time, which is kind of funny. Now, if you're getting
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  seven million, you're fucking one of the time. Yeah, watch shows Yeah,
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  like that's crazy, that's huge. Yeah. This ended up having its
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  own VHS release and sold two point five million copies in its first six months,
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  and Arlstein would go on to say that this episode was his favorite of
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  the series, and then just to mention for those listening, if you want
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  to go watch it. As of this episode's recording, you can watch it
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  on Flicks and Disney Plus is going to be releasing a new remake of the
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  original series, which will debut on October thirteenth, twenty twenty three, has
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  a slightly more grown up feel and cast and starring Justin Long. Oh I
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  love Justin Long. Yeah, but also featured He's like a teacher and the
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  rest. It's mainly featured on the cast of high schoolers with a team in
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  fourteen rating, So it'd be interesting to see what they do with the series.
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  I wish you just tried to play like every little kid like Eddie Murphy
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  this. Yeah, but the episodes are all more connected versus like individual episodes
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  on this round. So, but Goosebumps has also had movies and series reboots
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  and all kinds of stuff between now and when this first episode came out.
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  So yeah, before we dive into any synopsis. Is there any other additional
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  thoughts or things you want to bring up regarding the series. I can't really
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  think of anything. I just you know, I bet if anybody googled,
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  you know, Goosebumps right now, they'd probably see a bunch of images that
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  like make you think of being in elementary school because those books are all iconic,
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  the covers of them, like the Picnic one, the Mask one,
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  there's just you know, I mean, there's a bunch of them. So
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  yeah, I just was one like what, I just wonder how much of
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  an impact like the horror genre had because of like the people that are making
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  movies right now grew up on Goosebumps and are You Afraid of the Dark and
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  stuff. And I was watching this like seventies interview with Stephen King and he
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  was talking about, you know, being an author and having his work turned
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  into movies. It seems like r. El Stein had his hands that he
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  was in the like in the show. Like, so, I'm sure he
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  had a lot of creative I'm assuming creative direction, but kind of a random
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  quote that he said is he was asked like why do people like horror?
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  And he used this metaphor of like a guy smacking his head against a wall
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  and someone asked her, like, why do you spac your head against the
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  wall. Well, it feels so good when I stopped doing it, and
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  that's what and that's what, Like he was comparing like watching horror movies too,
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  But I don't know, like, why do you guys think that like
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  horror, the horror genre back then in the form of a goosebumps and already
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  pretty the dark and now with like you know, the screen movies and Halloween
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  like that kind of thing, Why do you think it's so popular? Probably
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  just like it's kind of taboo. There's no internet back then, so especially
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  a lot of the so it just seemed like something not really supposed to.
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  Like there was that book and also in school where it was like, uh,
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  the poems of like how you die, Like I remember one that like
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  if you see your hearse drive by, you'll be the next to die or
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  something. It was like scary scary tales to tell them the dark. Yeah,
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  there he was. Yeah, but I remember reading that and I was
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  like I almost felt like, oh, I should show my parents. I
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  can tell me not to read this because it's too scary, So I kind
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  of felt like I was doing something wrong. Maybe I don't know, it
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  might be out there, but isn't like the ringing around the rosie like a
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  like a precursor the musing for there too horror genre because bring around the Road
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  at the time about the plague and stuff. So I wonder, if I
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  don't know, why do you guys think that like the horror genre back then
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  and now is so popular. I mean, horror is just a is just
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  a part of pop culture right so and predates the nineties for I mean,
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  some of the very first films are like scary films, right like like nos
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  Faratu in those kind of things, and you know, then then you have
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  like folklore like storytales and those kind of things. So it's always been a
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  part of like human culture. But I do find it. I don't it
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  make I mean, somebody hopefully can correct me if I'm wrong, But I
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  just feel like a lot of like the horror stuff that's generally created towards kids
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  today is mostly like remakes and reboots, and I don't feel like there's a
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  lot of original horror things dedicated to kids, where I felt like, are
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  you fra the dark and goosebumps like those are all like, of course they're
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  borrowing from like Twilight Zone and these other things, but at the same time
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  like to focus towards children, which was kind of an interesting a new thing
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  of the nineties. Maybe. Yeah, I mean I would say that,
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  you know, like Grim's fairy tales, those have always tended, you know,
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  to be on the dark side, and I think there's always been a
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  fear of the unknown, and there's always been the desire to use horror or
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  fear to scare children into correct behavior. So I think, you know,
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  that's where all we've always had horror in that sense of trying to teach a
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  moral lesson. Yeah, that's interesting. One of the scariest stories ever was
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  like, is like the Tooth Fairy, because if you don't bury your teeth,
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  this is like the original story and it's really frightening. I heard about
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  this one as an adult and I was like, that's the worst thing I've
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  heard. If you don't bury your teeth after you lose as a child,
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  you'll spend eternity roaming the earth looking for your lost teeth. Yeah. I
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  was like, oh my gosh, I wish i'd even hear that as an
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  adult. Yeah, but it is just interesting that there's a a handful of
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  content dedicated towards kids in the nineties, which is Yeah. I thought Catherine
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  Long, who plays Carly Beth, it was very, very good. Yeah,
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  I thought she she was giving me real actress after vibes like I was
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  really impressed with There's a range. There's a couple of scenes I really want
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  to like break down of her abilities. Yeah. But yeah, shall we
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  just dive into this bad boy? Okay? Let me? Should we should?
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  I think? Should we head into it because it's a mask of it
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  and I don't know, I like face into it or should we face the
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  unknown or something? Yeah, let's mask into this. Uh, I'm being
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  silly. This should stay. I love this is this is gold before before
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  we go in just uh and you kind of brief you touched on it.
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  But thoughts on the intro music and the credits. Oh, loved it.
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  It was so good. Now it doesn't hold up at all, but visually
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  visually it does. But the music I think is great. It's like it
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  starts out really scary, but then it's like, Okay, I can vibe
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  with this. What's gonna happen and then with that g that is like a
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  shadow. But at first it's like what the fuck is that? Couldn't really
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  make it out, but it's great. It's good interest. Yeah, visually
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  it's not great, but it like it easily like portrays like what's going to
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  happen? Like r al Stein's words are coming to life, Like that's that's
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  the easiest thing they're trying to portray here. But yeah, that music is
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  pretty fire. Yeah, no, it definitely is. Do you feel that
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  that the Goosebumps theme? Or are you afraid of the darkest scarier like which
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  which puts you in like a more of mood. I think are afraid of
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  the darkest fighting okay, And I don't like it because I don't like to
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  be scared. I tried watching it with my daughter's last weekend because they're like,
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  hey, it's Alloween. I'm all right, guys, I'll give it
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  a go. I'm not joking. It was like seventeen minutes into it,
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  there's one part and I go, all right, well, thank you,
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  guys, I'm gonna play video games enjoy watching your movie. I don't like
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  that feeling of suspense. I do not like I do not get my people
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  like orse interesting? Okay, Well anyway, that's why I don't like that
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  song from Are You Afraid of the Dark, because it's hard to make me
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  feel an easy opening to Are You Afraid of the Dark? Is? It
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  holds up? For sure? It's so much scarier than Goosebumps. I feel
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  like it's like in a whole different way. We've talked about Are You Afraid
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  of the Dark, but we haven't actually done an episode review of it,
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  So I do find it interesting that Goosebumps made it first as far as like
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  a never seen Are You Afraid of the Dark? And I like, I
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  have no idea what you are talking about when you say like which is scarier
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  theme music? Because I don't think i've ever heard it either. Well,
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  Riya, if you haven't seen it, then maybe we should like dive into
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  this immediately because it maybe I'm sure we could find one that you would like.
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  Is it scwy? It might be too scary for Andy, but we'll
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  see. Yeah, it depends on which one. There's something I remember not
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  liking as a kid. Yeah, there's one particular that I am obsessed with.
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  Yeah, Yeah, Nev Campbell started one. It's a pretty good episode,
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  all right. Well, after the credits, we are greeted by R.
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  L Stein himself describing the cautionary tale that we were about to watch,
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  one about a young girl named Carly Beth who encounters an evil, haunted mask,
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  but ends when she discovers there's nothing more powerful than the love of her
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  family and friend. He was ugly and no charisma and no Christmas. I
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  was so just like, why is he doing Why is he doing the intro
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  if he's like so uncharismatic. If they're going to do this format, they
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  really would have benefited from having a character like a like a cryptkeeper. Yeah,
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  or had him take like acting classes something like that. Yeah, get
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  what you're saying. But like, like he writes and reads for a living,
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  Like he's not going to be a model. He's no, sure,
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  Yeah, but like I don't know, he could have me. I don't
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  know. I feel like they could have put makeup or prosthetics on him,
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  or could have he could have been a little bit handed up. Maybe prosthetics.
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  Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to get a little Jeff here.
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  I'm going to get a little Jeff here. The way they did the lighting
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  on his face. Why did they just flip the side so they could hide
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  that mole? I know, right, Like you know what I'm talking about,
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  Jeff. Here it was so it was like highlight. It was like
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  a spotlight on that spotlight on his mole, whereas like half of his face
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  is dark, Like, why not just darken the other side of the face.
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  I'm assuming too, especially in I mean not especially the ways. But
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  they probably because I knew they were doing this prior to the nineties. They
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  have focus groups, so they probably showed this episode to kids or you know,
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  episodes to kids before airing it, see what they liked and what they
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  didn't like. And it's hard for me to believe that a lot like a
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  lot of kids were like, hey, hey, that weirdo at the beginning
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  to keep them man and like, yeah, it's just like a huge fan
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  of the books, and you're like, oh, that's what he looks like.
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  Okay, Other than that, what kid is going to get excited about
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  this dead pan? Yeah, maybe that was a part of his contract that
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  he had to or something. I'm like, that's fine, I guess,
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  but yeah, no, I think I agree with you, Ali. He
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  could just kill himself. But this isn't like the only show to do this.
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  I spawned. The animated series had Todd McFarlane intro it, and he
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  also similarly similarly did a terrible job. So I don't know. I just
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  want to be always a contract thing. How many takes did they take for
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  that's the best one. I'm going to show you a show about scary that
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  could have made it better. Like if he just started dropping f bombs,
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  I would have been like, yes, I am here for this. But
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  this show wasn't as popular as Are You for the Dark? I don't know.
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  It's on a bigger network than Nickelodeon, so I imagine it's getting more
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  viewers because the intro, like the opening and ending of Are You for the
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  Dark is awesome, like the campfire ship, like you're one of the kids
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  when you're watching it, you're one of the kids that's telling the ghost stories,
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  and it creates that mood that you're hearing the story in the woods at
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  night. Yeah that was the tone far Yeah, it sets the tone far
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  much better. Doing that was so funny. All right, Okay, anything
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  else? Sorry? Are I don't think so? My notes are on my
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  phone, so it looks like I'm just doing my correspondence. But I'm really
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  just looking at my correspondence. That's what are you going on? Like,
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  Dear Abigail, I will see you yes on the marrow we write it down.
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  God, I wish we talked about well. After Arlstein's intro, Carly
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  Beth and her friend Sabrina are walking around town and encounter a scary new novelty
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  shop just popped up in time for Halloween. As they leave, a creepy
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  man with facecar and watches the girls walk away with an ominous look. After
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  walking away from the store, Sabrina is bothered. They have to look for
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  a pumpkin so late. Carly Beth is creeped out and Sabrina takes the opportunity
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  to scare her, and carly Beth is not amused, and she finds a
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  good pumpkin. A hand comes out of the hay to grab her, and
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  two jack of lanners come out of the ground to scare her. As they
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  close in, they take off the pumpkinheads laughing and it's two boys from her
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  school, Chuck and Steve. Carly Beth runs off angrily and thinks Sabrina is
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  in on the joke, but Sabrina assures her that she wasn't involved. Carly
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  Beth shares that these two have been terrorizing her for a while now and seem
• 22:04
  to be isolating her for their attacks. The Brina is quick to dismiss her
• 22:07
  friend and negatively reminds her everyone knows you're afraid of everything. Carly Beth responds,
• 22:11
  hoping they'll know someday how this feels. As the girls head home again,
• 22:15
  the creepy man from the shop is watching them, apparently the pumpkin patches
• 22:18
  right in front of his store. I mean, stein, they're sick.
• 22:22
  Oh you know that. I can't believe they've followed us off this way just
• 22:26
  to scare me like that. They're creeps. They have no life. Last
• 22:30
  weekend at your house they pretended to will prowlers. That wasn't funny. I'm
• 22:36
  sorry. Last summer I put that octopus on me. They're always pullink stuff
• 22:41
  like that. Sorely scared you? I really am it was I mean a
• 22:47
  stupid joke. Oh yeah, sorry, It's just they don't do this to
• 22:53
  anyone else but me, Serenas, Why me, don't be mad, callibas.
• 23:00
  It's just so scarable, that's all I am not. That's not fair.
• 23:07
  Come on, I might be afraid sometimes, but I mean everyone knows
• 23:11
  you're afraid of everything. Okay, I don't like being scared. I don't
• 23:19
  like being afraid. Okay, it's okay, give me some data that heart
• 23:23
  feels she is a cunt. Yeah, yeah, she's pretty like grow up.
• 23:33
  Yeah. I was just like, what a terrible friend. And uh,
• 23:38
  it wasn't really like a novelty shop. It was just a mask store,
• 23:42
  right, I didn't really see it important than ma, why even name
• 23:47
  it novelty if that's all they're gonna and that old man did that was giving
• 23:51
  me some creepy in the nineties early nineties, probably not too creepy. Now,
• 23:53
  it's like that was gonna be an abduction. They're really driving home that
• 24:00
  her name is Carly Beth. Oh my god, every single Carly Beth like
• 24:04
  dressing her and then saying their lines like we get it, we get her
• 24:08
  name, we got it the first three times. I hate people named two
• 24:12
  names, unless it's like Maryanne for Gilligan's Island. That's fine, but I
• 24:17
  hate it. I hate that's stupid. That's so fucking stupid. But okay,
• 24:21
  so my thoughts on this little segment were how long were those boys lying
• 24:23
  there? Thank you to me? And then and then didn't catch the So
• 24:30
  there this Carly Beth is getting tormented, like it's it's beyond just playing jokes
• 24:37
  on her and the dead octopus comment, Yeah, a school, so they
• 24:41
  like, what do they like throw a dead octopus on her? That's what
• 24:45
  it says. That's a weird line. Where the fuck did they even get
• 24:48
  a dead oct Yeah? Yeah, maybe they were dissecting it at school,
• 24:52
  right, Okay maybe, but if not, then it gets really scary.
• 24:57
  But you're right, how long were they laying down hoping that somebody would go
• 25:00
  to the pumpkin patch like the day before Halloween to get a pump And that
• 25:03
  makes it suspicious that it was Sabrina that was involved in it, because Sabrina
• 25:07
  scares Carly Beth a few moments before it happens and then leads Carly Beth here,
• 25:12
  I am carl b those boys that are laying there, and then yeah,
• 25:18
  and then there's the comment about Carly Beth getting they like pretend that they're
• 25:22
  prowlers, So pretty much these boys are like pretending like I interpret that like
• 25:26
  they're pretending that they're going to break into her house and like do things,
• 25:32
  and like that's fucked It's really yeah, it's really insane. Yeah, I
• 25:37
  have at at the end of this review, I have a I have a
• 25:41
  what's it called, like a what I feel like the story is really about.
• 25:45
  I'll tell you later, but yeah, anyways, but yeah, that's
• 25:48
  it's fucked up. And yeah, Sabrinas did say that she's a cuny.
• 25:51
  She's a kind Yeah, she's a cunt. I like your notes, Jeff,
• 25:57
  what does that mean? Well, I just like how these ninety shows,
• 26:00
  like I think they do it to say, but like in real life,
• 26:03
  Oh, if there's only two people, you don't say each other's name,
• 26:06
  Yeah, how fucking weird would that being? Yeah, you just assume,
• 26:08
  like, well, it's only us two talking. I mean, so
• 26:11
  you don't need to clarify who exactly constant though through the whole episode, Mom
• 26:15
  says it, brother says it. It's wild. I was thinking about going
• 26:19
  back to watch it again just to count how many times, but I knew
• 26:23
  like halfway through I would get confused, like forgetting like fun to watch after
• 26:27
  writing to probably just get the script and then do control f and then like
• 26:33
  after I guarantee someone's on the transfer. After writing and reading this review,
• 26:36
  I never want to hear the name Carly Beth again, Like I swear to
• 26:38
  god, I do think it's very weird and forced that they're adding this character
• 26:44
  trait that she's afraid of everything, Like this is a weird setup to create
• 26:48
  a character like her main at like a thing about her is that she's afraid
• 26:52
  of everything true, and it does kind of take away like like you know,
• 26:59
  when she starts scared and the bad kids, you're like, oh cool,
• 27:00
  it's just kind of getting you know, they're getting some come up ins.
• 27:03
  But the fact that she's scared of everything from everybody, just that the
• 27:07
  guys, the kids are just terrorizing her and like yeah, yeah, exactly,
• 27:11
  And then that gives more reason to want to, you know, stove
• 27:15
  vengeance. But I was, so I was, and then eating a sandwich
• 27:18
  but I did, this isn't shade, but I said, I love Carly
• 27:22
  Beth, But I said, Carly Beth has given vibes. I'm not going
• 27:32
  to do this to you though, because I don't want to get it come
• 27:33
  up ins like that. A couple of casting things I wanted to mention.
• 27:38
  So the shop owner is Colin Fox, he's mostly known from Tommy Boy.
• 27:44
  And then he's credited as Tall thin Man. That is his character's name in
• 27:49
  this, not shop owner. Yeah, I know you think shop owner,
• 27:53
  but no, Tall thin Man. And then the kid playing Chuck is also
• 27:57
  the main character in the Tale of the Ghastly Grinner from Marty Fraid of the
• 28:00
  Dark, which is a very good episode. So well, it's weird that
• 28:04
  they named uh, you know, tall thin Man, because they must have
• 28:08
  been out of names thinking of all these clever how about Chuck? How about
• 28:11
  Steve Carly? I can't think of any I can't possibly think of any other
• 28:15
  names. So I do this thing where I think I talked about this before
• 28:18
  I watch credits because I like to see I don't know what, I don't
• 28:22
  know what I like to see about it, but I like to see the
• 28:26
  names of everybody who did like the lighting and everything and like and also like
• 28:30
  the characters that are extra who have like one line, and I wonder,
• 28:33
  like, oh, are they still trying to pursue acting or did they give
• 28:37
  up? And I remember I don't even remember what show it was, but
• 28:38
  it was like Woman Woman in Store fat woman. It was just like,
• 28:42
  yeah, besides that, I don't want to tell your friends. I was
• 28:48
  like a horribly ugly person. Yeah, they didn't put any makeup on me.
• 28:56
  But I looked up this guy on Wikipedia and he's like an older gentleman
• 29:00
  now obviously, but he's still like a working actor. That's cool. He's
• 29:03
  one of the only ones that seems to still be a working actor. Yeah,
• 29:07
  good for him. Well. Carly Beth arrives home and is greeted by
• 29:11
  her mom, who's worried about her, and then shows her the sculpture she
• 29:14
  made of carly Beth's head and face and art class Are you gonna use Are
• 29:18
  you using Carly Beth because you can use Carly Beth because I feel like you're
• 29:23
  just like and Carly Beth. She warns carly Beth to be careful. It's
• 29:27
  made of plaster and hollow. Carly Beth is creeped out and is wondering why
• 29:32
  her mom made it. She said she made it because she loves her.
• 29:34
  As carly Beth says the head bad, damn it. As carly Beth sets
• 29:38
  the head back down, she freaks out and says it smiled at her.
• 29:41
  Her mom sure, reassures her that she's letting the Halloween season get to her.
• 29:45
  Her mom then tells her the duck costume she requested for Halloween is on
• 29:48
  her bed, but carly Beth feels that it's a bit immature for her and
• 29:52
  would rather be something scary for Halloween. As carly Beth approaches her room,
• 29:56
  she appears she hears something and it is scared by her brother in her costume,
• 30:00
  and her brother calls her a scaredy cat. The next day, at
• 30:03
  school, carly Beth and Sabrina are planning their Halloween when she's interrupted and scared
• 30:07
  again by Chuck and Steve. They overapologize for scaring her last night and place
• 30:11
  a worm in her sandwich while she's distracted. After she bites into a sandwich,
• 30:15
  she freaks out and the whole school points and laughs. Carly Beth runs
• 30:19
  home crying, and when she gets home, it's so frustrated she tears the
• 30:22
  costume her mom made her into pieces. She goes to her stash of money
• 30:26
  and finds thirty dollars used towards something scary at the novelty shop. Carly Beth
• 30:30
  heads to the novelty shop and as she's looking. The shop owners upset that
• 30:33
  she's there and states their clothes. Carly Beth pleads and he gives her five
• 30:37
  minutes. As she's looking, she finds a back room that appears to be
• 30:41
  a science lab and six very creepy masks. She has her eye on one,
• 30:45
  and when the man confronts her, the masks come alive, but carly
• 30:48
  Beth doesn't see them moving. The man exclaims she's not supposed to be here
• 30:52
  and states the mask aren't for aren't for sale. She questions him, and
• 30:56
  she says they're too frightened. He says they're too frightening, but that's what
• 30:59
  she wants. He tries to bargain with her, but she's not budging.
• 31:03
  He learned she wants to scare the bullies and starts to ask about her.
• 31:06
  She gets scared, grabs the mask and throws the money at him as she
• 31:07
  flees the store. Outside, she questions her decision, but it's too late,
• 31:11
  and the man locks the door behind her. I don't think Chick and
• 31:15
  Steeve will be scared by a gorilla mask. Though, Oh these guys at
• 31:22
  school, how they does torture me? And and I want to get even
• 31:33
  then, what is your name? O? Carlybeth? A nice face cards?
• 31:52
  But I don't think these masks. They're so real looking. Take the
• 31:59
  responsibility, CHI can, Steve, but just die. Look here dirty Bucks.
• 32:07
  It's everything I have. No, oh, I don't have much here
• 32:25
  for notes other than why would the store be so close so early on Halloween,
• 32:30
  like it's it's Halloween night, like when he would be open to try
• 32:32
  to sell as much shit as possible. Yeah, for sure, and yeah,
• 32:37
  and then like so it's so the mask the mom made her? So
• 32:43
  was that already haunted? Yeah? Yeah, he made this sculpture. It's
• 32:49
  not technically a mask, because she says it's like plaster and it's hollow and
• 32:52
  be careful with it. But it did it. So it did smile at
• 32:54
  her, Right, we saw it smile. I didn't see it smile.
• 32:58
  I didn't notice that. Is that what happened? I think so? Yeah?
• 33:00
  I think so too. And then so if you really thought you saw
• 33:04
  that mask or that sculpt whatever smile at you, she just dismissed it really
• 33:08
  quickly. Yeah, yeah, that's fucking crazy. But why would that mask
• 33:14
  already have some kind of powers to it before she gets the other mask is
• 33:17
  her mom like a witch or something. I think smile or move. So
• 33:22
  I don't think that there's any magic or spells or anything mystical in this episode
• 33:30
  at all. I think this is a slow decline in somebody's like a psychology.
• 33:37
  Yeah, like she's she's slowly losing it. And like the her scene
• 33:40
  that the sculpture smiled at her or whatever is because of all the trauma that
• 33:46
  she had the last few days. And then I think that yeah, so
• 33:50
  anyways, I think that this whole episode is just there's no magic behind it.
• 33:53
  It's just her slipping into Like I did ask Ali if she had a
• 33:59
  psych cotic break. I was like, so, did she just have a
• 34:02
  psychotic break? Is that what this is? Because yeah, because I mean
• 34:06
  if if you were incessantly bullied like that, I would also be kind of
• 34:12
  and then also gas lit at every time you were upset. Yeah, but
• 34:15
  yeah everyone in your like your family or friends. Yeah. Yeah. I
• 34:20
  also didn't think that sculpture looked anything like her. And then I think it's
• 34:24
  funny the masks, like you can tell when they use real people and like
• 34:30
  when they I mean, it's the effects are not good. They're not good.
• 34:35
  Yeah. Yeah, and those kids like they threw a dead octopus on
• 34:37
  her and then they had her eat worm. So like these kids are probably
• 34:43
  like killing animals and shit, you know what I mean. Like that's not
• 34:45
  fucking good. Yeah. So I put in my notes that if Carly Beth
• 34:47
  decided to shoot shoot up the school, I wouldn't hold her responsible at all.
• 34:52
  Yeah, because like they were all like pointing and laughing at what was
• 34:55
  her name again? Oh yeah, Carly Beth. Because at this point every
• 35:00
  person that has been on the screen has said her name. Everybody has.
• 35:05
  It's insane. They should they should the school people should be like, no
• 35:09
  more bullying. Right, So that's that's a hot take. But okay,
• 35:15
  so you can't go into stores and dispute the price and then and then just
• 35:21
  throw money and take it. I know. That's so bad. Yeah.
• 35:24
  And she hadn't actually touched the mask, yeah, so I don't know.
• 35:29
  So is she just evils a lot of question and then uh, the duck
• 35:34
  costume, the feathers came off really easily poorly. Yeah, but I think
• 35:38
  that the mom is going through some things. I think the husband is cheating
• 35:43
  on her, Like he's definitely hitting some pussy on the side. He was
• 35:45
  in Chicago, right, I'm trying to find some kind of connections to Chicago.
• 35:49
  The only thing I could find is that the year of nineteeny five was
• 35:52
  the deadliest year in Chicago history. What the fuck is the dad doing there?
• 35:58
  Maybe that's why all this evil suff's going on, because the Dad's murdering
• 36:00
  so many people that somehow like there's some bad juju going getting masks all crazy
• 36:06
  up in their hometown. And what a horrible place to hide masks you don't
• 36:10
  want people to touch in a mask store. Imagine if I had like a
• 36:14
  haunted guitar, but I was like, oh, it's in the It's in
• 36:17
  my guitar store. But it is also don't even look at what's what the
• 36:22
  scientist feel like, why is there? And he just has the door open,
• 36:28
  yeah, like it's not locked or anything. He said he made them
• 36:34
  but his but her mom made that sculpture of her prior to her even seeing
• 36:38
  the old man. I really want to go into this, like this thing
• 36:43
  towards the end because he has this elaborate backstory at the end, and I
• 36:46
  really want to break it down. But oh, then Carly Beth put her
• 36:51
  hands. Her stupid little pause on the window to the store. That pissed
• 36:54
  off. I hate that so much, and somebody has to go clean that
• 36:58
  up. I was really intrigued by the conversation he was having on the phone
• 37:05
  me too. I could not focus on it. I was like, what
• 37:07
  is going on? I guess we should probably talk about this. But how
• 37:13
  about the visual of the mask? It wasn't so scary. It looked a
• 37:19
  lot like the bad guy from the Power Rangers movee. I felt like,
• 37:22
  hmm, okay, I thought they were freaking I thought there were scarier ones,
• 37:27
  like for the one that she picked in that lineup of whatever, how
• 37:31
  many six or whatever, I thought there was one that was scarier. Yeah,
• 37:36
  I mean it's made to resemble that the illustration from the book cover,
• 37:39
  right, But I think later on, like as it's like growing more and
• 37:46
  more on her, it becomes more more effective. But yeah, oh sure.
• 37:52
  I thought it was interesting because Ali said that an actor was in Are
• 37:57
  the Goose Bumps and then was in Are You Afraid of the Dark? So
• 38:00
  I thought it was really cool that they took a Nickelodeon star Michelle Trackenberg and
• 38:04
  then used her to make a mask. I thought that was interesting, Sarely
• 38:09
  Will all right, I hate Michelle Treck. After getting home from stealing the
• 38:16
  mask, carly Beth puts it on and says goodbye, Carly Beth, goodbye.
• 38:21
  She looks at herself in the mirror at the mask and with different voice
• 38:23
  says wow. Her brother in costume is approached by carly Beth in the hallway
• 38:27
  in her new mask, and he is frightened. Carly Beth laughs and her
• 38:30
  brother pleads to take the mask off, but she can't get it off and
• 38:32
  gets nervous, but appears she was just fully with her brother. She is
• 38:37
  pleased by her ability to scare him. As she's trying to leave, her
• 38:39
  mom wants her to see her in the duck costume, but carly Beth is
• 38:43
  able to avoid her, but not before taking the head her mom made her
• 38:45
  to parade around on a stick. Carly Beth, on her way to Sabrina's
• 38:49
  is scaring kids and mistakes two kids for Chuck and Steve, and they call
• 38:53
  her crazy. Sabrina is impressed by carly Beth's costume and pointing out the lifelike
• 38:57
  head of her. Carly Beth states it's who she used to be, which
• 39:00
  worries Sabrina. The two trick or treat and Sabrina has to touch the mask
• 39:05
  and says it feels like real skin and thinks carly Beth should take it off
• 39:07
  because it's too weird. Carly Beth, pestered by Sabrina, freaks out and
• 39:10
  shakes her friend, telling her to shut up. We should mention this is
• 39:15
  where the first episode ends and the second one starts, but it's very abrupt
• 39:20
  and quick. Sabrina gets scared and carly Beth revels in her friend's misery.
• 39:23
  At a house, Carly Beth scares two very young children in front of their
• 39:27
  mother, who tells her to stop or she'll call the police. Carly Beth
• 39:30
  is thrilled by her new persona, and Sabrina is unhappy with her friend Subrina
• 39:35
  Blea. Sabrina pleads to go home, but carly Beth's determined to scare everyone
• 39:38
  so she doesn't have to be herself for one night. She also says the
• 39:42
  mask is making her act this way and it's not her. In a graveyard,
• 39:45
  Check and Steve are goofing off bragging about their candy hall, and later
• 39:49
  in town, Carly Beth is still scaring more kids and terrorais in the neighborhood.
• 39:52
  She runs off and bumps into the two boys at the graveyard. She
• 39:54
  approaches the two boys in her mask and the fake head of herself. The
• 39:59
  boys are from and by her voice, she makes the boys apologize to the
• 40:01
  head, and as they do, the head comes to life and begs them
• 40:05
  to help her. The boys run off and Carly Beth squeals in delight.
• 40:07
  She then buries the head in the graveyard, stating, bye bye, scaredy
• 40:10
  cat, Bye bye. Who are you? Yes? Do we know you?
• 40:15
  Oh? Yes, you call me be right, he scar, We've
• 40:22
  been looking for you. This is Cartiebeg's cat man poor and want to up
• 40:32
  her head tonight. But I dig it anyway, How are you making that
• 40:37
  weird voice? Apologize to her, Tell Cardie broke you sory, apologize for
• 40:45
  what? For? What for? Every time you scared her? Well,
• 40:50
  every time he made people love it her. We were just goofing around.
• 40:53
  We only did it because we liked her. It's not excuse. It's not
• 40:58
  how you show someone you like. She was a break, yeah, really,
• 41:05
  pologized to her. My botized, Well, I promise you wish you
• 41:14
  never met her. Sort help me, talked, please help me. She
• 41:44
  starts howling, which I don't understand. I don't because I don't know that
• 41:49
  thing wasn't a wolf or whatever. But I uh so right when she's messing
• 41:52
  with her with her little brother, and she like pretends you can't get the
• 41:54
  mask off. I wrote that, like, I would love so much if
• 42:00
  the mask never comes off, So she just has to live her full life
• 42:02
  in it. So she's like an adult working at office job. We received
• 42:07
  these a portsmister Simpson. We'll get working on the updated budget soon. But
• 42:12
  it's just in the mask, like, oh, I owned Chipotle for lunch.
• 42:15
  Does anybody want anything? Okay? The friend called the lady at the
• 42:23
  door an old bag. Yes, and that lady looked younger than me.
• 42:29
  Yeah, I wouldn't they call the pleats then, bitch, I'm gonna break
• 42:31
  into your house. I was also Sabrina's costume was not a cat. She
• 42:37
  was a rat. Like there was no way she was a cat. I
• 42:40
  was like, I thought she was supposed to be a rat. That's funny.
• 42:44
  The cat, she said cat. She said, I'm supposed to be
• 42:46
  a cat and gives col her like a weird hamster and then she says,
• 42:50
  yeah, yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I still don't get that the
• 42:52
  mom did that sculpture of the daughter's head and just put it on the mantle,
• 42:57
  Like it's so fucking creepy. Yeah it's so weird. But did you
• 43:00
  do that to like Jackie Chan? Well yeah, no, I printed,
• 43:04
  but that's Jackie Chan. Yeah. Like there's a game I like to play.
• 43:07
  Try to name three things that aren't Jackie Chan. Like I'll start,
• 43:10
  Oh, no that you gotta do three in a row. Like, so
• 43:14
  I'll start desk light switch Jackie Chan. It's really hard, but like it
• 43:22
  makes more I guess it makes more sense of having like your daughter's head on
• 43:23
  the mantle. Well then too, like she has two kids, so you
• 43:27
  know what I mean. Yeah, like that other son would be like you're
• 43:31
  literally putting her on a fucking pedestal. If I was the son, I'd
• 43:36
  be like, thank god it Like she's not like obsessed with cutting my head
• 43:38
  off. Yeah. Crazy, And she must be a witch or the materials
• 43:43
  that her art teacher gave her were like possessed or something. I don't know.
• 43:45
  I don't know why that fucking sculpture would be, but there's no reason
• 43:49
  I think. I think the ascension would be that the magic of the mask
• 43:52
  she's wearing is rubbing off on her surroundings, would be, my guess,
• 44:00
  the only real logical way to explain that. But I think she got the
• 44:02
  sculpture before she got the mask, didn't she? Yeah, but don't.
• 44:05
  I'm not convinced that the sculpture actually moved before this segment here. Oh yeah,
• 44:12
  So the actress who plays Carly Beth went on to do quite a bit
• 44:14
  of voice acting. So the laugh, the voice, how do you feel
• 44:17
  about it? Is it effective? Is it strong until she got the mask
• 44:23
  on? You know? But I don't want to be the person that like,
• 44:27
  I don't. But yeah, they're kids, they're all really bad actors
• 44:30
  and actresses. But I think her doing that voice was really good, and
• 44:34
  that's why I think cemented her role as this. Okay, I do think
• 44:37
  her physical acting is very good, and especially in the graveyard scene. I
• 44:45
  love that scene where she like peeks out the side of her head from the
• 44:47
  tree, like it looks really like funny to me, it's very creepy.
• 44:52
  But when she's like celebrating and like like really like she's clapping, she's jumping.
• 44:57
  It's very like goblin like behavior. It's I think it takes a lot
• 45:01
  to be that vulnerable and to like physically act like that. Like a great
• 45:07
  job. Yeah, fully committed you Rhea, you had mentioned earlier as or
• 45:10
  anything. I wasn't impressed by this scene as much as I was impressed by
• 45:15
  some of what she did in the pumpkin patch scene. I thought that was
• 45:22
  really good. I thought that was a really she showed a lot of range,
• 45:27
  I think from being frightened and yeah, I'm said, yeah kind of
• 45:30
  stuff. Okay, Yeah, so that was more my h that what I
• 45:35
  liked of hers. Yeah. This segment two is also where they're really driving
• 45:42
  home that she does not like herself. Yeah, so sad, which is
• 45:45
  like was it really Like it's a weird turn because the whole character think character
• 45:50
  development was she's just afraid of everything, and now it's she doesn't like herself,
• 45:53
  So like, where are we like? Which one is it? Like?
• 45:57
  It seems it seems a little uh like all their character traits seem very
• 46:00
  forced, and I get like it's a short time to build a character and
• 46:04
  that kind of thing, but I don't know it feels a little too convenient
• 46:07
  for everything. Yeah, for sure, you know, maybe because it is
• 46:12
  a kid's thing too, they have to be like, yes, I'm so
• 46:14
  mad at myself. Oh and the kids are like, oh, that's why
• 46:15
  she has a magic mask. She was like unconventionally like look like, looked
• 46:25
  unconventional and that's and that's why she got bullied. And then she wears a
• 46:30
  mask and then which is just like the story of the Shopkeeper, which we're
• 46:36
  about to learn. Yeah, you know, so yeah, it's a it's
• 46:38
  a pretty convoluted story, I guess so really quick. Though, we'll never
• 46:43
  know if the mask actually smiled or not, because I went back and watched
• 46:45
  the scene. So when she goes, the mask smiled, it actually the
• 46:50
  camera is behind the mask head, so you just see Carly Beth's face.
• 46:53
  Yeah, but then I don't know if it smiled or not. But then
• 46:55
  when it leaves, when she leaves the room, I think they show them
• 47:00
  ask again and I think the mask moves, but I don't remember. If
• 47:07
  I was that that mom though, at the I would cut her, like
• 47:12
  if he treated my child like that, I would be like, I will
• 47:15
  murder you. Wait. Wait the old woman. Wait, you would,
• 47:23
  you would cut your own kids, I would cut and Sabrina like I but
• 47:30
  it's Halloween, like you're supposed to scare people Halloween. You don't scare my
• 47:35
  children. You don't scare it like toddlers. Yeah, you know, yeah,
• 47:39
  I don't know. I think it's fair game. Yeah, just like
• 47:44
  this Halloween. I got a bunch of octopuses. Last time we went trick
• 47:49
  or treating with Jackson, he dressed up as some like murderer clown thing and
• 47:52
  it was like covered in blood and knives and stuff. And then we got
• 47:54
  to this the next house, I saw the old lady. She was like
• 47:58
  using a walker to sit on and she's just so adorable and I'm like embarrassed
• 48:02
  that Jackson's going up to her, and she just looked at her. She
• 48:05
  was so sweet. She's like, I love your costume. Like she didn't
• 48:08
  say like I can't do voices, but I'm like, yeah, scared that,
• 48:12
  like you know, I was a little embarrassed, and I was like,
• 48:14
  yeah, it's Halloween. Yeah, like she needs to. I don't
• 48:16
  know. And then I think it's cool that these girls want to be scary
• 48:21
  and not just like you know, slutty, because usually like Halloween's about being
• 48:24
  like little horrors. Yeah for sure, including me. I dressed up as
• 48:29
  a sexy police officer once. Yeah, I was missus Clause by accident once.
• 48:34
  I remember that. I think I told this story. Yeah I got
• 48:36
  a beer pong cup, but it was too tight, so just like a
• 48:38
  really tight red dress. And then if you didn't have the white beer pong
• 48:42
  because you're supposed to just carry the ball with you, but I'm like,
• 48:45
  I'm not carry this around. I got a drink. So then it just
• 48:49
  like claws. I was like, I was just imagining like someone scaring Rea's
• 48:55
  kids, and then like he said, you want to, you would cut
• 48:59
  them like just Carly Baths just like I agree that the mom had every right
• 49:05
  to like do something more than just be like I'm gonna call the police,
• 49:09
  Like yeah, yeah, I just don't know what they did to the kids.
• 49:14
  Like those kids are now, Yeah, you really are are going to
• 49:19
  be a very hard time calming them down the rest of the night. Sabrina
• 49:22
  was like, Carly Beth, you're out of control, that old bag.
• 49:24
  Why throw at the old lady? Yeah how old? The candy did not
• 49:31
  look good though the candy looked very much. It did look awful, like
• 49:35
  it was all just like suckers and yeah and like Lemons flavors. One thing
• 49:39
  I haven't thought about Tony on Too is Sabrina's Canadian accent is so prominent in
• 49:44
  this episode. Yeah yeah, stories, how old are they supposed to be?
• 49:49
  Did it ever really? Say? No? I was thinking like twelve
• 49:52
  to thirteen. I would obviously middle school would be on internet it says eleven.
• 49:57
  I was oka, yeah, because they're still trigger treating too, which
• 50:01
  is pretty yeah on the decorade every year for Halloween and we never get kids.
• 50:07
  We get like one or two kids. So this year I'm gonna buy
• 50:09
  like five king size just for the ones actually show and be like, damn,
• 50:14
  we take Jackson into this cute neighborhood outside of them on meth and if
• 50:17
  I dress up then the parents are like, you get one too, And
• 50:22
  I'm like, it's so awesome because I'm thirty five and I still get candy
• 50:28
  on trigor treating. Well, a few years ago, I dressed up in
• 50:30
  one of those big bears that the inflatable ones. You can't see my face,
• 50:34
  Hey, nobody knows who's underneath. There as much candy as you want
• 50:37
  genius. Yeah, and I went like married Halloween. Oh my god,
• 50:45
  that's awesome. Real quick, bullies are dancing on graves. No, ears
• 50:49
  is more important. The bullies are dancing on graves. They potentially murdered an
• 50:53
  octopus. They're having her eat worms. I feel like they are the next
• 50:59
  cruel and mentions kid. Yeah, that's like they're gonna be evil. Yeah,
• 51:04
  they're they're definitely on track for something awful. Yeah, but they point
• 51:07
  out later that they just like her. Yeah right, yeah, too far,
• 51:14
  Yeah, too far, guys. I was just gonna ask real quick,
• 51:16
  like favorite Halloween candy, Like what are you most excited to get the
• 51:22
  pumpkin reeses? Because there's more peanut butter, and that's my favorite. If
• 51:25
  I get I don't trick or treat technically anymore. But if I get fun
• 51:30
  dip, that was good times for me. Oh yeah, but now it
• 51:32
  would be like fentanyl. So I'm like, fuck, wait that would be
• 51:37
  your favorite? No, but like if if if that was a common yeah,
• 51:44
  but when is it too late to go trick or treating? I'd say
• 51:49
  it's the spirit. It's like, you know, I you know, Santa
• 51:52
  is still alive, but in your heart, so you know, yeah,
• 51:55
  I don't know. What are your favorite candies on Halloween? Yeah? Uh,
• 52:00
  I already said, so you have to go, oh, caramel apple
• 52:05
  pops? How about you? I get I find myself going towards the kit
• 52:12
  Cat more than anything, only candies. I don't like her if I don't
• 52:19
  really like three Musketeers or Milky Way, I don't dislike them like I'll have
• 52:22
  them, but those are my milk I just discovered recently, and I told
• 52:27
  you about this. Milky Way are Snickers without the nuts. It's a different
• 52:31
  car there's no nugat either. Yeah, it's the caramel hits differently anyway.
• 52:37
  Yeah, your response wasn't a question or it was like a bunch of outside
• 52:43
  bar. I do think looks really good in brown. I will say though,
• 52:49
  like for fun sized candies, fun sized Snickers are my favorite. Like
• 52:53
  I will just like, yeah, yeah, there is something weird about you,
• 53:00
  you know, full size Snickers like feels like too much, but like
• 53:01
  way too have like three or four? Yeah? Interesting? Yeah it's like
• 53:07
  mozzarella sticks, you know, like you want four string cheeses. Now,
• 53:10
  I'm good? What if you deep? Yes? But yeah, I still
• 53:16
  don't understand why she held she wasn't a wolf, and then was that her
• 53:20
  doing it or was it was the mass excitement of everything. It's just,
• 53:23
  yeah, it's I think maybe it's for a long time. I think maybe
• 53:28
  it conveys that it's like the full transformation at that point, you know,
• 53:30
  like kind of like a were wolf, like not saying that she's a were
• 53:35
  wolf, but like a werewolf that has fully like transformable howl. So maybe
• 53:39
  like it's just like an effective of like she's done the worst she can do
• 53:43
  now, it's like there's no turning back. Maybe the best tea sher I've
• 53:47
  ever seen in my life was a wolf that was like a were wolf and
• 53:50
  it said shift happens, yeah, and that was like, yes, it's
• 53:53
  my favorite shirt. All right, we have one last stretch here. Carly
• 53:58
  Beth gets into town and so Sabrina finds her, wondering where the sculpture is
• 54:01
  and why her hands are dirty, and asks about Chuck and Steve and also
• 54:05
  asking if they're okay. They go into Sabrinas and try to remove the mask,
• 54:08
  but it's painful for Carly Beth. They're trying to cut the mass.
• 54:12
  Sabrina notices there's no scene between the mask and her skin. Carly Beth looks
• 54:15
  into the mirror and notices her eyes have changed as well. Carly Beth runs
• 54:20
  to the store to have the shop owner helper. He is unsurprisingly waiting for
• 54:23
  her. He is aware of her troubles and says he can't remove the mask
• 54:27
  because it's not a mask but a real face. He states that people these
• 54:30
  masks used to be were beautiful, but something went wrong and the ugliness pursued
• 54:35
  no matter what he tried. He calls them the unloved ones. He says
• 54:38
  this face is her face now, unless, of course, she can find
• 54:42
  a symbol of love. But carly Beth is confused and demands to know who
• 54:45
  the man is. He says he is a man who created these faces,
• 54:50
  and like her, he also didn't love himself, so he created them to
• 54:52
  hide behind. But the faults were inside him and they turn the faces into
• 54:57
  monsters, just like his own. That is beginning to turn as she freaks
• 55:00
  out, the masks that are woken and start to float coming after her.
• 55:05
  He tells her to run, and the mass chase her, hauntingly, telling
• 55:08
  her to join them. Carly runs to the graveyard to dig up the sculpture
• 55:12
  of herself. As she digs it up, she shows them the head,
• 55:14
  stating this is who she is. It seems to work as the heads float
• 55:16
  away. She's able to finally remove the mask because the head her mom made
• 55:22
  was a symbol of love. When she gets home, her brother pleads to
• 55:24
  take the mask off, joking it's her own face, but carly Beth was
• 55:29
  worried that she hadn't changed. She cries out to her mom, who hugs
• 55:31
  her and she apologizes to her for everything they embrace, but not before her
• 55:36
  brother puts on the mask. The episode ends with r al Stein signing up
• 55:39
  and asking if his parents were scared, and we get a side view of
• 55:45
  two older folks with their hair, spiked up, makeup and frozen face shot.
• 55:52
  It was yeah, strange, so worry. He's journey about some do
• 56:19
  I who sway away from me? Sway no, no, this is kindly
• 56:51
  bad. I am curly bad. It's his way and look away and look
• 56:57
  away. Just a mask. It's just a mask again, the symbol of
• 57:12
  love. That's what he meant, symbol of love. I would have been
• 57:22
  like mom, Dad, why did you show up to the set with your
• 57:23
  hair like that you knew we were gonna record and that's more like an elextecution.
• 57:29
  Yeah, yeah, that was funny. So I want to I really
• 57:34
  want to go into this backstory that they've created for the shopkeeper. It's really
• 57:38
  convoluted because like he says like he made them for himself, but he also
• 57:43
  like talks about them and like a like a third person, like there they
• 57:45
  were different people, like he made it, he made them for himself,
• 57:50
  but then they turned ugly, So does his face turn ugly? And then
• 57:53
  he just makes a new face, Like I'm so confused by this this story.
• 57:58
  So what I was thinking was that these were like people who were ugly
• 58:05
  on the inside and so then they just started manifesting that on the outside.
• 58:09
  And then he I guess I wasn't really paying attention, and he said he
• 58:15
  didn't love himself, but like to me, I thought that he was saying
• 58:20
  like he was ugly on the inside as well and starting to manifest that and
• 58:24
  becoming one of those people. Yeah, but he said he also like hid
• 58:28
  behind these masks, so it implies like these were former versions of himself too.
• 58:34
  It was really weird yeaheah, yeah, Like did he make masks and
• 58:38
  like go out public so he wouldn't be so ugly. He was wearing a
• 58:44
  mask throughout the episode. That was a mask that he was eventually going to
• 58:49
  have to retire because it was starting to get ugly because he oh wasn't Yeah
• 58:54
  woah, what if that was a mask and that's what he said that he's
• 58:59
  it's like he's gonna have to retire that mask. He does say something along
• 59:02
  those lines of like it's yeah. So I was then like, why do
• 59:07
  they have their own distinct like voices and personalities and stuff too, Like they
• 59:14
  all float on and ask her to join her, and it could have been
• 59:17
  a simpler yeah, right explanation. And then I was really hoping that because
• 59:22
  he's started to say that he's just going to show her what his real face
• 59:27
  looks like. And I was like, oh, this is gonna be scary.
• 59:30
  They never do it, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And then when
• 59:34
  he's like hurry up, run, she could have just walked away. They
• 59:37
  were not moving any Yeah. They also just don't seem to go after her
• 59:42
  at all, like like at some moments they're close to her and someone and
• 59:45
  like they're not like it's it's very poorly done, Like this scene with them
• 59:49
  floating and chasing her. The voice the voices they chose for them are like
• 59:53
  awful, weird, bad, right Yeah, and then when she shows the
• 59:58
  head that they're like, I don't like you can tell like somebody was just
• 1:00:01
  running because it's like the way they move when they when they leave. I'm
• 1:00:06
  just like, okay, Yeah. He kind of gives like like an eye
• 1:00:10
  roll when she runs back into the novel novelty shop, like he's annoyed she's
• 1:00:15
  back, but like, why even tempt her with the mask if that's what
• 1:00:20
  I don't really understand that he wanted to have? Yeah, I don't know,
• 1:00:22
  Like was this his plan all along? Yeah? Right, but then
• 1:00:25
  why be annoyed when she's back if you didn't want to just lock the door?
• 1:00:30
  But like, and then did he start a mask shop to hide these
• 1:00:34
  masks or because he still has to pay taxes and you know he's just pay
• 1:00:38
  electricity bills like yeah, to worry about like profits and loss. Yeah,
• 1:00:44
  he's like, oh man, my profits are low this month. Hold down,
• 1:00:46
  quiet, double mask. I'll be with you in a second. It
• 1:00:50
  really feels like like they really should have made him like like sort of like
• 1:00:52
  this character that's like live forever, you know, kind or just like mores
• 1:00:57
  more mysticism to who he is, because they don't do a great job of
• 1:01:00
  that in the beginning and then they just like like throw all this ship on
• 1:01:04
  the wall at the end about him. So I just found that very or
• 1:01:07
  maybe they could have found a book and they someone that looked like him was
• 1:01:10
  in the book and it was some scared guy something. I mean theyah,
• 1:01:14
  but when when we're even just like watching him, like maybe like maybe there's
• 1:01:17
  like an early early scene where her and her mom were walking around town and
• 1:01:21
  then like they see him opening his shop and she's like, oh, who's
• 1:01:23
  that guy? You know, like really easy to just be like kind of
• 1:01:28
  freaked out by him early and then but he has like he has like such
• 1:01:31
  a small role until the very end, and it's it's not I don't love
• 1:01:35
  the continuity of this this episode. Yeah, and he has to pay for
• 1:01:38
  a phone because he takes that call, so it's just so weird. He's
• 1:01:44
  worrying about the double mask. Well yeah, when he's like this is your
• 1:01:47
  face now, I was like yes, then I in my notes, I
• 1:01:50
  put thanks for Colling T. Mobile. This is Karen Carly can't take it
• 1:01:55
  off. And then I wish you just jump to like thirty years in the
• 1:01:58
  future. So good. I like the uh all the subjects of the clerk
• 1:02:05
  man, Sabrina's comment, you didn't hurt them, did you? Like she's
• 1:02:08
  like like so worry that her friend is going to hurt somebody. Yeah,
• 1:02:13
  like Jesus Christ, get this girl. Oh yeah for sure. And then
• 1:02:15
  I love the p s a of they need the mom to bring his mom's
• 1:02:21
  help to use an eye versus Yeah. I love that. I was like,
• 1:02:25
  way to go sharp objects, Yeah they might yeah, or like yeah
• 1:02:31
  they could have done. It's like getting your mom's permission to like make a
• 1:02:35
  purchase online. Yeah, that's really funny. And then fast forward to the
• 1:02:39
  end when the brother plays that joke that she has the mask, he goes
• 1:02:45
  so far into the bit that he breaks a bowl like he's like eating like
• 1:02:49
  cereal, like drops the bowl and breaks it. And thus I don't think
• 1:02:52
  that they ever nothing was really learned because she's still being traumatized by these people,
• 1:02:59
  yeah, by her brother, by her Yeah, just by that.
• 1:03:02
  Ye did kind of freak me out though, because I thought like it would
• 1:03:06
  have been really scary this. I was getting that fucking suspense feeling. I
• 1:03:09
  don't like when she slowly turns and looks in the mirror. If it was
• 1:03:13
  the mask, I would have been like nope, and I would have turned
• 1:03:15
  it off. But they did it thankfully. But that could have been a
• 1:03:17
  really scary moment that I was still there. Yeah, that would have been
• 1:03:21
  a great way to end it too, Like yeah, yeah, Like this
• 1:03:25
  was a popular book like episode. What's it called? Books? Series like
• 1:03:30
  book the book? And I'm sure this was a popular episode, So I
• 1:03:35
  wonder how much this actress got scared when she was out in public by people
• 1:03:39
  that recognized her, like going back like and like doing horrible things like making
• 1:03:45
  her eat, like throwing knives. Yeah. No, they moved up to
• 1:03:50
  live crabs. I uh. She asked the guy why did you make these?
• 1:03:53
  And the first thing he says, he goes, I don't know,
• 1:03:57
  and then he explains, but I wish you would have I don't know.
• 1:04:00
  Yeah, I just hate like okay, Like every time he was he like
• 1:04:06
  locked her in the room at like the beginning or whatever, and like locked
• 1:04:11
  her in the back and like was touching her shoulder like here's she gets raped,
• 1:04:14
  Like, like I hate that, Like you can't hate that in society
• 1:04:18
  today. You can't go into like a back room at a creepy mask store.
• 1:04:25
  And you know, thanks a lot of Bama thinks Obama. But I'm
• 1:04:29
  glad it didn't turn out that way. Yeah, because like his okay,
• 1:04:32
  So like the phone call that he was having, he was saying like something
• 1:04:35
  we have to go through with the plan or whatever, and so I was
• 1:04:40
  thinking, like, okay, like he needed her to have this mask to
• 1:04:45
  fulfill something like like that. He wouldn't, Yeah, like would there have
• 1:04:49
  been like a society like waiting for her in the back room, like a
• 1:04:53
  group of people maybe they're all wearing the masks or something at that point,
• 1:04:57
  Like yeah, right, yeah, maybe he's maybe he's opening up a second
• 1:05:01
  shop in like East Coast Small or something. We gotta go through the like
• 1:05:04
  we already told Baskin Robbins that will go have on the rest. Yeah,
• 1:05:08
  he's so put off by her, but then when she shares that she's being
• 1:05:13
  bullied, then he's like more empathetic towards her a little bit. But then
• 1:05:16
  she could have built that relationship and then compromised the price maybe, but so
• 1:05:21
  she just takes advantage of his weak moment and steals from him. Yeah,
• 1:05:26
  she definitely stole them. Mat what did you think of his his scream?
• 1:05:30
  His no so bad? It's so weird this is and then so why did
• 1:05:38
  he even help her at the end. It's it's there's not a lot of
• 1:05:43
  to make sense of this. Like the moral is you should like learn to
• 1:05:46
  love yourself, but boy, did we like the moral take some weird turns
• 1:05:51
  to get there. Yeah, and I guess not to steal, because if
• 1:05:55
  you steal, your mask and your sculptor of yourself will also I can see
• 1:06:00
  where that was. The point was to love yourself, but it was really
• 1:06:04
  lost and yeah, it could have been more effective. And I really think
• 1:06:09
  it was the tale of a of a young woman who is losing her touch
• 1:06:14
  on reality. I like that better because that's scary to think about if that
• 1:06:16
  was actually happening. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like would it be more interesting
• 1:06:23
  if like she thinks she's transforming. Everyone's like you're fine, Like what's wrong?
• 1:06:29
  Well, that's what I thought was gonna happen, is like she was,
• 1:06:31
  you know, puts on this mask and like loses her mind and starts
• 1:06:36
  terrorizing everybody, and then everybody's like, like, carly Beth, what are
• 1:06:42
  you doing? Like you look exactly the same. There's a middle ground between
• 1:06:48
  like stupid fucking dud costume and like a creepy haunted mask. Yeah, like
• 1:06:53
  there's a middle ground of she could have found. Uh. I don't know
• 1:06:56
  what that middle ground is, like like an eagle in the eagle like scarer
• 1:07:00
  than ducks, I don't know, or like a witch or like a Frankenstein
• 1:07:04
  or something. She could have done anything besides like a haunted mask or ghost.
• 1:07:09
  The ghost would have been fine. Good thing the mom made a sculpture
• 1:07:13
  of her, not the son. Otherwise she would have just been that fucking
• 1:07:15
  monster for the rest of her life. So the mom should be looking out
• 1:07:19
  for her daughter too, Like I like, so carly BET's allegedly eleven ish
• 1:07:25
  and she what do you expect your daughter's getting bullied and you're like, I'm
• 1:07:28
  gonna make you a death costume and then like a true But then at the
• 1:07:34
  same time, Jackson messaged me because he is trying to figure out what he
• 1:07:38
  wants to do for costumes, and he was like, wants to do like
• 1:07:41
  something scary blah blah blah. He just texted me he wants to be a
• 1:07:45
  what looks like a baby, Like he wants to dress up as a baby.
• 1:07:49
  I'm like, maybe a scary maybe do scary makeup? Nothing, But
• 1:07:53
  nothing about what he sent me is scary. It's just like I'm not gonna
• 1:07:56
  let Hi dress up as a baby because he's gonna get bowling. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  I also was confused as to why she wouldn't have buried the mask, like
• 1:08:10
  why she took it home and let her brother like have access to it.
• 1:08:15
  I was just like, well, you know how haunted this mask is and
• 1:08:18
  you're just gonna here yeah? Or yeah? Or could there have been like
• 1:08:25
  some final like resolution between her and the shop owner, Like could he have
• 1:08:29
  been like the one that drives at home. That's like, I'm glad you
• 1:08:32
  finally learned to love yourself. You know, it's too late for me.
• 1:08:34
  I like, yeah, yeah, that's an I mean, I guess they
• 1:08:39
  need to have that like Cliffhanger ending like it's her brother, you know,
• 1:08:43
  but I think like Andy's suggestions better, or like the mask, like she
• 1:08:46
  sees herself till in the mask, or it'd been funny at the very end,
• 1:08:50
  if she goes back and says, hey, I get a refund.
• 1:08:55
  Ye's no receipt. She gets back and the police are waiting for If a
• 1:09:01
  hunted mask attached to me, I would immediately go to like my parents,
• 1:09:05
  or I would go to like the police or something I wouldn't go to,
• 1:09:09
  like a shop keep that I stole from. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:13
  What would you say is the scariest moment of this episode for me? Like
• 1:09:16
  I said a little bit ago when she's about to looking in the mirror,
• 1:09:19
  because I was like, if it's the fucking mask, I gonna lose my
• 1:09:21
  shit. Okay, By the way, it's weird that this is like a
• 1:09:25
  prequel to face Off in the weird way anyone else I could see that what
• 1:09:31
  would you say is the scariest moment Jeff, Like probably like the more squirre
• 1:09:36
  It's not really scary, but squirmy is the like the worm scene like that
• 1:09:41
  that like grossed me out and freaked me out, like in a different way.
• 1:09:45
  Okay, I don't know, there wasn't I think honestly, like the
• 1:09:54
  pumpkin patch and the jack lantern, when like you saw something just barely rustle
• 1:09:59
  in the leaves, and like before I knew that, you know, it
• 1:10:01
  was a prank. I think genuinely the scariest part is when she discovers that
• 1:10:08
  she can't remove the mask and like her skin is starting to form, Like
• 1:10:12
  that would be like if that happened to you, you would be genuinely terrified.
• 1:10:15
  Like I'm like stuck in this form or this mask like forever, like
• 1:10:20
  those finger things, like the finger drops. Yeah, like it creates anxiety,
• 1:10:26
  and I don't know, I just yeah, but even then, like
• 1:10:29
  it's not a huge scare and compared maybe to even goosebumps, Like you know,
• 1:10:32
  there's an episode with the dummy and and like I think of already Fray
• 1:10:35
  the Dark with like the clowns and stuff. So but I think we chose,
• 1:10:41
  I you know, suggesting this episode was because I think most people think
• 1:10:45
  of this one really when they refer to this series, I mean the TV
• 1:10:51
  series, I should say, so huh so ratings this has an eight went
• 1:11:00
  two out of ten on IMDb. What fucking wild? And I really went
• 1:11:05
  to like there there's an episode of it on YouTube, and I like there
• 1:11:09
  was like over three hundred comments and it was nothing but like heavy praise and
• 1:11:14
  like nostalgia love, Like people love this episode, So where where do you
• 1:11:20
  all lie? On this episode? I didn't mind it. It went by
• 1:11:25
  quick. I thought it was fun. It had a real nostalgia feeling.
• 1:11:27
  I never I didn't really watch any of these growing up, but this time
• 1:11:30
  period they the shots were great, like the shots when all those little kids
• 1:11:33
  are waiting for and she's like, no, don't leave, and then they
• 1:11:38
  all run off. But the way the kids are running off and you see
• 1:11:41
  all the leaves blowing in the wind it's night time. It had like a
• 1:11:44
  real nineties feel to it. I didn't mind it at all. Actually it
• 1:11:47
  was. It went by quick. I mean it wasn't like great by any
• 1:11:50
  means, but for like a kid's TV. Like, if I'm I'm going
• 1:11:54
  to rate it as a kid's TV show, I probably gonna give it like
• 1:11:57
  a seven. Okay, yeah, all right, But if it was like
• 1:12:02
  any like real stuff would be way lower as a kid's TV show. Like
• 1:12:05
  the ratings on I nd like, it's not the same people that are reading
• 1:12:10
  this that are reading like I don't like Citizens Kane. You know it's I've
• 1:12:15
  never seen Citizens Kane. I just whiped that out because like people sound Citizen
• 1:12:18
  k people of Smith Simpsons. Yeah, no, I'm not gonna watch Citizen
• 1:12:25
  Kane. Are you going to rate the episode? Yeah? I think out
• 1:12:30
  of like sorry, I just shooter, I would give it in all things
• 1:12:42
  in the world, I would give it like a two. But out of
• 1:12:45
  like kids stuff from the nineties, I would give it like a seven.
• 1:12:50
  Okay, Like I I watched more more than these episodes, and I was
• 1:12:56
  like, oh, this is really like campy and fun. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:58
  exactly, it was fun. It wasn't scared. I it is quick.
• 1:13:00
  But if I had to choose between this and are You for the Dark?
• 1:13:02
  Are You for the Dark? And I'm saying I think if I like
• 1:13:05
  to be scared, it would be are You Afraid of the Dark? But
• 1:13:08
  since I don't go on goosebumps for sure, because it's I think it's not
• 1:13:12
  scary, like, uh Ria, how do you where? Where? Where
• 1:13:19
  do you feel? So again, I don't have nostalgia goggles. I have
• 1:13:26
  never seen Are You Afraid of the Dark, So like, I don't also
• 1:13:30
  have anything to compare this to. So just from like a I've watched a
• 1:13:40
  lot of shitty horror, and this is really shitty horror, so I will
• 1:13:45
  give it a four okay out of ten? Yeah all right, yeah,
• 1:13:49
  I think if I'm giving this like a standard rating, I think this is
• 1:13:53
  like three out of ten. And I think kids, kids stuff. I
• 1:13:58
  think the production value is pretty decent. I don't think the visual I don't
• 1:14:00
  think the effects are great, but I think the practical effects are pretty good.
• 1:14:05
  There is a bit of nostalgia with like the theme music. I think
• 1:14:10
  the kid actors were pretty okay. So yeah, I think I meant like
• 1:14:14
  a six out of ten on like kids scale, So yeah, but it
• 1:14:18
  like in comparison to like Are You Afraid of the Dark, Like are You
• 1:14:21
  Afraid of Dark? Has the format down really well. I still enjoy like
• 1:14:28
  really bad episodes of Are You fur the Dark, like if it's ironically bad,
• 1:14:31
  and I do think there's just been like more fun stories there, so
• 1:14:35
  excited to dive into that one next next week. I think there's a lot
• 1:14:41
  of things that like are mad, Yeah, that are mad, like obviously
• 1:14:45
  mad, but then there's things that are mad that are shouldn't be man like
• 1:14:51
  For example, Kate Winslet. Everyone thinks that she's a good actor. A
• 1:14:57
  lot of people do. I think she's mad. I think she got lucky
• 1:15:00
  because Claire Claire Danes turned down the roll of Rose in Titanic, because she
• 1:15:04
  just did Romeo and Juliette with Leonardo DiCaprio. This is a ship take,
• 1:15:08
  so what this is a ship take? Amazing? She's met like, she's
• 1:15:19
  lucky. She's lucky. She's lucky. She needs to count her blessings and
• 1:15:23
  she needs to not go after Titanic or go after works that she did.
• 1:15:28
  She's lucky. She does she have talent, yes, but is she is?
• 1:15:32
  She glint close? No, like how I think it was. If
• 1:15:38
  I saw her walking down the street, I would make eye contact with her
• 1:15:41
  and I would look her in the eye and she would she would be like,
• 1:15:43
  oh, a fan is coming up to me, Like she would brace
• 1:15:45
  herself and I would look her dead in the eye and say, pass,
• 1:15:50
  that's what. That's gold. I'm only like one of my favorite movies is
• 1:15:56
  Eternal Sunshine, and she's yes, I'm a yeah, Titanic, she was
• 1:16:01
  in what else? She's not Rachel Weiss. I don't know Racheloyce and The
• 1:16:06
  Mummy. You should just stop now what you think you think? Even Kate
• 1:16:11
  wins is like the best actress. I think she's the best actress, but
• 1:16:13
  she's far from fucking men. But she's like, she's not She's not Claar
• 1:16:17
  Danes. She's not she is Claire Danes. Are you kidding? Yeah?
• 1:16:23
  Yeah, Oh my god, she's amazing. So did either of you,
• 1:16:27
  like, uh, grow up reading The Midnight Club? No, because I'm
• 1:16:33
  just trying to like because that also came out in the nineties, and like
• 1:16:39
  that never really gets talked about, but it has a huge cult following,
• 1:16:42
  and obviously Mike Flannagan, I think it gets lost in the shuffle because there's
• 1:16:45
  so much horror content for kids in but like what I watched, The Midnight
• 1:16:49
  Club The New Yeah, and man, there's a lot of nostalgia for that,
• 1:16:57
  and I think so I was just curious just to know if you guys
• 1:17:00
  had any comparisons to that, because I can't tell you. I have no
• 1:17:05
  idea what it was. I've never heard of. It might be too personal,
• 1:17:09
  but I'm you were allowed to breathe animalphs though, no, I wasn't.
• 1:17:14
  No, but but you snuck it like you them? Yeah, OK,
• 1:17:17
  gotcha? Yeah, I love animals. They were awesome. God one,
• 1:17:21
  Yeah, all right, uh, did you have something else? Right
• 1:17:25
  now? Okay? Andy? Uh, bringing back in an old segment.
• 1:17:29
  It's been a while, do you know it? Do? Do you know
• 1:17:30
  what? Do? Do you know what? Quiz? Alright? So I
• 1:17:36
  figured, you know, let's it's R. L. Stein. So what's
• 1:17:40
  my favorite thing? I don't know really this connection but here we're out here,
• 1:17:44
  we out here, we are and Stein like Stein and and Stein what
• 1:17:49
  Franking Stein? Don't okay? So this is spooky, do you know it?
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  Okay? So all right, Uh you could have L R R L
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  Stein frankste Beer, but it's like in Stein. Oh I don't know,
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  Okay, No, I got gell. Yeah that's so I guess just first
• 1:18:12
  one to say their name and go. I guess that's that will do?
• 1:18:15
  All right? So what is Frankenstein's first name? Je? Nope? Oh
• 1:18:20
  oh you know how yo, Victor? It is? Yeah, the doctor
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  I was gonna say, Frank. I also got the I also got the
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  actual like things like ABC D oh. Yeah, so well it's skip that
• 1:18:41
  one, I guess. Yeah. So how much does a first edition copy
• 1:18:45
  of Frankenstein's sell for right now? A four hundred and sixty seven thousand,
• 1:18:49
  B five hundred and seventeen thousand. See seven hundred and sixty sixty seven thousand
• 1:18:57
  dollars or D one point one seven million. Yeah, B, I'll guess
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  d a Ali it is d Ali? Well, how much? How much
• 1:19:09
  does it sell for? Ally one point one and sixteen? No, D
• 1:19:15
  was one point one seven Oh yeah Ali those numbers. Frankenstein. Huh,
• 1:19:19
  let's talk about something else. Scary, Frank Frank sin It's like Sinatra because
• 1:19:26
  sin is scary. Why did Frank Sinatra always carry a roll of dimes on
• 1:19:31
  him? Hey, because when his son was kidnapped, he ran out of
• 1:19:34
  dimes while talking to the kidnappers and thought the murders would kill his son.
• 1:19:38
  His first single sold for a dime, and he didn't think he would sell
• 1:19:42
  more than fifty records. As a young man, he found out it was
• 1:19:45
  a good tool to use when fighting someone or d He owned the biggest laundry
• 1:19:49
  mat chain in Nevaden. Every time he visited one, he would give rolls
• 1:19:54
  of dimes to anyone there since the since it was the cost was a diamond.
• 1:19:59
  Yeah, thought B be the first single sold for a dime. Nagadin,
• 1:20:05
  Jeff d I'd love that you created that that's awesome, ally c No,
• 1:20:13
  it was actually eight because his son got kidnapped after the jfk assassination and
• 1:20:16
  he had to pay two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to get his son back,
• 1:20:20
  but he called him on a payphone and he ran out of money.
• 1:20:23
  So after that he always kept dimes on it. That's wow, okay,
• 1:20:28
  right, that's crazy, all right? So how many times did Frank Sinatra
• 1:20:32
  host or co host the Academy Awards? Four? Three two or one?
• 1:20:36
  Ali one? Negai okay Ria three, Jeff two? Speaking of sin let's
• 1:20:51
  talk about Sin City. What year was Las Vegas founded? Eighteen eighty nine,
• 1:20:58
  nineteen oh two, nineteen o five or nineteen eleven? Ali nineteen eleven?
• 1:21:03
  Nope, Jeff B. Lets see it is Rial. That's your first
• 1:21:17
  one there, okay, okay, yeah, Ali got one too. Ellie
• 1:21:24
  has too. Yeah, all right, So which gangster opened the first hotel
• 1:21:30
  in Las Vegas? A Alcobo pone B Bugsy seagull Ce, Johnny two fingers
• 1:21:36
  or D little Wheezy Alie B? Yeah it was B. Isn't that?
• 1:21:43
  What's the last question? They opened it together? Yeah? First sixty nine
• 1:21:50
  points? How much and This is where everybody gets a guess. But whoever's
• 1:21:59
  closest wins, and I'm not doing the overrull. It's whoever's closest in general.
• 1:22:04
  Right, So, how much did a gallon of gas cost in nineteen
• 1:22:08
  ninety five? There's nothing more scary than gas prices? Is there off a
• 1:22:13
  dollar? No, it's just whoever's closest. How many? Uh? Would
• 1:22:19
  you say? A dollar sixty nine? All right? Riya a dollar nineteen?
• 1:22:29
  Okayret? What year was it? Ninety five? Ninety five? I'm
• 1:22:31
  gonna say, what did Ali say? One sixty nine? S one of
• 1:22:40
  you is only four cents away? And that's real? Wow? Is a
• 1:22:43
  dollar fifteen in nineteen ninety Wow? Soria? You win? So cool?
• 1:22:50
  I like this game. That was fun. All right you guys ready?
• 1:22:54
  And that was my trivia on RL's time. Thank you Andy. He's still
• 1:23:00
  alive. He is. I just thought a tweet from recently. Oh he'd
• 1:23:02
  uses twitter or x or whatever. Who would like to keep score on my
• 1:23:06
  new segment? Wait? Can I ask a real quick question? Do you
• 1:23:12
  think Jack Black played a good r? L Stein? I didn't see it.
• 1:23:15
  I mean he's not Wait, he can't be playing erl Stein like he's
• 1:23:20
  animating. They're so far off from each other. He's worth l R Stein
• 1:23:26
  or wherever the name is, is worth two hundred million dollars. That's fucking
• 1:23:31
  crazy a ton. I mean it's pretty. That's a lot. I guess
• 1:23:35
  for I guess for kids, a kid's lit. I'm sure JK Rolling is
• 1:23:42
  worth more. But oh well, yeah, she's like a billion, two
• 1:23:45
  hundred million more than me. Yeah, I'll keep score. Okay, thank
• 1:23:50
  you that zero. No, I have a new segment. So this is
• 1:23:56
  a new segment. It is a game. I was called huh, what's
• 1:24:00
  it called? It is called who Said It? Donald Trump? Or Jeff?
• 1:24:03
  Oh my god, I'm Jeff Sidebar. I got divorced. But it's
• 1:24:13
  cute because I'm gay. I'm slip my wrists excited. I'm Jeff. And
• 1:24:23
  now it's time for who said it? Donald Trump or Jeff? Oh my
• 1:24:30
  god, that's gonna be good. I'm gonna read a quote. You need
• 1:24:34
  to tell me. Is it Donald Trump or Jeff? Oh? I love
• 1:24:38
  this so much. It's gonna be fun. I'm excited. All right?
• 1:24:40
  Do I play too? Yeah? You're playing? Jeff sweet Andy, Yes.
• 1:24:45
  Twenty six thousand unreported sexual assaults in the military and only two hundred and
• 1:24:49
  thirty eight convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men and women
• 1:24:53
  together? That's Trump. You are right, that's funny. But Andy has
• 1:25:08
  one point, Riah. They're only allowed a small amount of water. That's
• 1:25:13
  why people from Beverly Hills, generally speaking, don't smell so good. That's
• 1:25:18
  Jeff. That is Donald Trump. What. Oh, that's so fucking good.
• 1:25:28
  Jeff. Are you ready for your quote? Yes? Was it Donald
• 1:25:30
  Trump? Or you Kevin Spacey is like Michael Jackson. You can still like
• 1:25:34
  him. That was that was Jeff. Yeah, that's so good. That
• 1:25:45
  was round one, Round two. Andy. I can stand in the middle
• 1:25:50
  of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters. Okay,
• 1:25:55
  I know that. Okay, Donald Trump, Rhea. If I had to
• 1:25:59
  choose between killing a stranger who works at Buymart and a nun, I'd kill
• 1:26:02
  the Buy Maart person. Well, that's from substraction, that's Jeff, But
• 1:26:13
  that's what those are, your exact words, Jeff, sh it's so good.
• 1:26:17
  Oh my god, Jeff, you're ready for your quote. If Pete
• 1:26:21
  Boudajets would stop sucking cock. Maybe he'd actually accomplish something. I feel like
• 1:26:27
  that's me, that is you. Yeah, Round three, Andy, Helen
• 1:26:35
  Keller was a fraud. She was born on third base. I know we've
• 1:26:43
  talked a lot about ship. I'm gonna oh, I don't know. I
• 1:26:49
  don't remember just specifically saying that, but I know we have talked a lot
• 1:26:54
  of shit. I'm gonna have to go, Jeff, it was Jeff job.
• 1:26:57
  Oh riha? How was she born on third days? Your next quote,
• 1:27:09
  Jackie Kennedy was so ugly? Oh, I don't Oh, that's a
• 1:27:15
  hard one. Uh, Jeff, it was Jeff. Oh? Okay,
• 1:27:24
  all right, Jeff your quote. I would like to extend my best wishes
• 1:27:28
  to all, even the losers and haters on this special date, September eleventh.
• 1:27:32
  Oh Jesus, I'm hoping that's Donald Trump. It was Trump? Okay?
• 1:27:39
  Did you talk about nine to eleven? Long? Andy? What was
• 1:27:42
  the scores? Uh? Who's tied? Jeff? And all right, you
• 1:27:46
  guys have a tiebreaker. You're gonna say your name, and then you tell
• 1:27:50
  me. If you're wrong, the other person wins. If you're right,
• 1:27:54
  you win. I'm gonna read the quote you tell me you say your name
• 1:27:58
  to say who it was? Your last quote Roger Ebert was an alcoholic,
• 1:28:02
  so who cares what he thinks? And okay, it was Jeff Jeff Wins.
• 1:28:12
  How did you know he was not calling? Damn it, Jeff,
• 1:28:17
  you know yourself better than anybody. I never would have connected myself to Trump.
• 1:28:23
  And now I said, Oh, that's fucking good. That's so good.
• 1:28:26
  Oh I love that game. That's a lot of fun. I need
• 1:28:30
  to do some self. And that was who said it? Trump and Jeff.
• 1:28:38
  That's awesome, that's thank you. There's also more. There's no this
• 1:28:45
  is like it could be a reoccurring thing. I think that's funny. That's
• 1:28:47
  a really good idea. Damn, that's good. I didn't say anything controversial
• 1:28:51
  this episode. I don't think so. Kate Wins That thing is pretty pretty
• 1:28:57
  bad. What was her big breakout movie? Really quick? Titanic? Yeah?
• 1:29:02
  Yeah, what did she do in Titanic? She showed her showed her
• 1:29:08
  tatas. Yeah, because Michael Bay is like a sexual like assaulter, like
• 1:29:14
  you know, manipulator. James Cameron, James Cameron, thank you. Yeah,
• 1:29:16
  he's a piece of ship. The thing's wrong with showing your Tatas,
• 1:29:20
  but like, I just don't like her very much. She's I like her
• 1:29:25
  more than Michelle Trackenberg. Yeah, obviously, Like if I had to choose
• 1:29:30
  which one died, I would probably And when there's our next turn, one
• 1:29:32
  of them? What if one of them worked that best? By though?
• 1:29:38
  What did they have? So who did I want to kill? A buy
• 1:29:42
  Mart? I don't know who was the person. If I had to choose
• 1:29:45
  between killing and somebody who worked at buy Mart and a nun, I would
• 1:29:47
  kill the Buy Mark person. Oh when you take quotes out of the contact
• 1:30:00
  all right? Well that uh that wraps up goosebumps. Tune in next week
• 1:30:11
  when we do. And are you afraid of the Dark? Review? Uh?
• 1:30:15
  Andy, would you like to promote? We're gonna start with The Averager
• 1:30:20
  season two soon, so check that out. And I should have the final
• 1:30:26
  episodes of season one up vetty vetty soon, So check out the Averagers and
• 1:30:30
  hit me up on notably underscore Andy on Instagram. Whoop poop? I like
• 1:30:34
  that, thank you? Oh? Also, I like balls. We're gonna
• 1:30:38
  start doing live episodes on Facebook Live. We're gonna start doing live episodes where
• 1:30:43
  you can call in and actually talk to us and then we're gonna record it.
• 1:30:45
  It's gonna be on Facebook Live, and then we're gonna post it on
• 1:30:48
  whatever you listen to your podcast on as well. So let me know when
• 1:30:51
  that is. Let me know when that is, because I would love to
• 1:30:54
  like call in or like, yeah, say something about sports because I'm like
• 1:30:58
  into football. Now. I got this new program and these cameras to where
• 1:31:00
  I can like add multiple shit on screens, so it's gonna be like call
• 1:31:02
  down, but it's gonna be a lot of fun. So I'm excited.
• 1:31:06
  Jeff. You can follow pictures of my dog dusk Us on gusk Gus Underscore
• 1:31:13
  the dog playing on Instagram and other than that, Like I just fell down
• 1:31:17
  a rabbit a hole recently about how they're trying to come up with the technology
• 1:31:21
  to turn salt water into drinkable water, and I thought that was pretty cool.
• 1:31:26
  So it's a race before time because the oceans are turning into a swamp.
• 1:31:30
  So I don't know if we're gonna have that opportunity, but we might
• 1:31:33
  any any no words for future, Jeff. Oh, he helped me out
• 1:31:39
  the other day, me like talking to me because so, yeah, what
• 1:31:45
  was gonna say yea lay off the dairy future. Jeff, you're probably driving
• 1:31:48
  right now, you know, don't be texting and driving. And then what
• 1:31:51
  else? I don't know, Like you just do you? You're doing good,
• 1:31:57
  Jeff? Or if you're not doing good, you'll do better. It
• 1:32:01
  gets better, Yeah, it gets better. Yet I got I got nothing
• 1:32:08
  other than I don't know. I had RBS today and the service was shitty
• 1:32:12
  and I recommend for staffing purposes stagger breaks. Yeah, damn. Did they
• 1:32:19
  have any specials going on that we should know about? I did get?
• 1:32:23
  They have a in the app is a classic roast beef for two dollars.
• 1:32:27
  See, you get the importance of apps. Yeah, fucking food. Apps
• 1:32:30
  is where it's at. Whenever I order something, they're like, ooh,
• 1:32:33
  do you have the app? And I'm like no, And then because I
• 1:32:38
  don't and I don't know how to do all that, so I just it
• 1:32:41
  frustrates me. I get it. No, well talk about they're like,
• 1:32:47
  hi, how are you today? And I'm like I'm aorri like how are
• 1:32:50
  you? And then they're like good, Like I don't know how to do
• 1:32:54
  that because they ever said to you, I'm having a baja blast. I'm
• 1:32:58
  having a Oh my god, that's all. Well. So I worked at
• 1:33:00
  Arby's and I would say RB, seeing you later when people would leave and
• 1:33:05
  then or like go on break, I'll be right back. And then they
• 1:33:10
  used to have the super Rose beef, so I have a Super Rose Beef
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  day, Like I fucking killed it at Arby's. I was like my favorite
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  job. Yeah, Ali, what do you have to promote? Yeah,
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  if you're in Seattle or in Portland, just make sure you're following me on
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  Instagram at ali j is Gay because I have Right now, I'm booked for
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  like twelve shows in November. Jesus. Oh, lots of opportunities to see
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  me. That's about it. Yeah, I love that, even promoting trans
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  businesses, and that is true. If you're in Portland, follow me on
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  ali j is Gay because I am posting over seventy different featuring seventy different people
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  who own a business or nonprofit or offer services, or talented artists or musicians
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  and all kinds of stuff. They are all trans in Portland. Ways to
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  support them, That's no, it's cool. I just want to brag.
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  I guess that I have tickets to Aqua that is true next month. Yeah,
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  there's some scandal right in that band, Like the lead singers used to
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  fuck around, but then her current husband is like the bassist or something like
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  that. But then the two ex lovers that are the lead singers, they
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  still like act like they fuck around when they're on stage. It's like so
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  dramatic and I love it for it interesting. You've Jeff all the tea,
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  All right, Well until the next episode. I'm Ali, I'm Andy,
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  Shelly, I'm Jeff, and I'm Ria because of Frankenstein Mary Shelley. Oh,
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  there's a chick that wrote that moment movie book Donald Trump work Notable Nostalgia
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  slash podcast. This podcast is produced by me Ali and edited by both myself
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