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April Overland News: The Lexus GX, Ford Ranger, Ducati DesertX Rally, and More · The Overland Journal Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Overland Journal podcast. I'm your
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  Speaker 1: host Scott Brady, and I'm joined today by my co
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  Speaker 1: host Brian mcvicars. Now for our April Overland News, we
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  Speaker 1: go into some detail on the new Lexus GX five
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  Speaker 1: point fifty, which is an incredibly exciting new model. We
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  Speaker 1: also talk about the Forward Ranger in the XLT variant
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  Speaker 1: with the FX four package, and also the new Ranger Raptor.
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  Speaker 1: We also spend some time talking about a new motorcycle
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  Speaker 1: from Dukati.
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  Speaker 2: It is the.
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  Speaker 1: Dukati Desert X Rally, which is one of the most
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  Speaker 1: incredible adventure motorcycles I've ever tested, and we spent some
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  Speaker 1: quality time with that in the Atlas Mountains and deserts
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  Speaker 1: of Morocco. Some additional conversation goes into new product from
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  Speaker 1: easy On and some other new product coming on to
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  Speaker 1: the marketplace. So please enjoy our April Overland News with
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  Speaker 1: Brian mcvickers and a special thanks to kuat Racks for
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  Speaker 1: for more information. Thanks again, Kuwat. All right, Brian Scott Brady,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on man? It is good to be back,
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  Speaker 1: and Prescott, it's good to be sitting across from my buddy.
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  Speaker 2: You needly got lost in Africa.
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  Speaker 1: I got lost a few times. So there's so many stories.
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  Speaker 1: Yes there is, there is. And this is actually my
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  Speaker 1: first podcast since returning to the US a little bit ago,
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  Speaker 1: and we were able to successfully complete the crossing of
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  Speaker 1: Africa and we ended at the Gulf of Aiden, about
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  Speaker 1: thirty kilometers away from the shores of Yemen.
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  Speaker 2: What was the total distance of the trip.
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  Speaker 1: I would say probably drove around twenty one to twenty
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  Speaker 1: two thousand kilometers.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to ask what was a total
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  Speaker 2: duration of the trip, but that's a little hard to
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  Speaker 2: answer because there were so many ups and downs and
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  Speaker 2: so many there were a lot of challenges. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Just bureaucratic challenges, particularly getting into Ethiopia that took some time,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, the last border didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: quite let us go, so we were actually detained detained
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  Speaker 1: at the Ethiopia Djibouti border for three days. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about that on a future podcast. But it was
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  Speaker 1: an incredible journey. I'm just I'm so humbled by the
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  Speaker 1: experience and by the incredible people of Africa and the
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  Speaker 1: people that I was able to travel with, from Joe
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  Speaker 1: in the first segment, to Tavia in the second segment,
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  Speaker 1: and then Brian Bass for this last segment. And what
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  Speaker 1: was interesting to me was when Brian Bass and I
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  Speaker 1: drove up to the ocean and completed the crossing. There
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a single light on the dash. The Grenadier had
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  Speaker 1: never had a failure in the entire trip, which given
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  Speaker 1: the fact that it's production unit number three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: seventy two.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to ask if it was I couldn't remember.
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  Speaker 2: It was a pre production.
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  Speaker 1: It's not pre production, it's not well, there's probably a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of both, but it's considered production. It's a
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  Speaker 1: production vehicle, but it would have been essentially very very
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  Speaker 1: early on in that process. So it was actually one
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  Speaker 1: of the media vehicles from the media launch. So this
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  Speaker 1: is a very very early car.
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  Speaker 2: It's been through a lot already.
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  Speaker 1: It has and actually towards the end, I'm normally very
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  Speaker 1: very careful with vehicles because i'm but in this case,
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  Speaker 1: we were really trying to test this thing. So I started.
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  Speaker 1: I was never abusive to it, but I stopped saying
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  Speaker 1: no to a route or or I just went I
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  Speaker 1: just like, let's go check this out and let's go
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  Speaker 1: drive this thousand kilometers of corrugation just to see because
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  Speaker 1: it just kept not having an issue, and I was
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  Speaker 1: expecting so early that there would be something that would
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  Speaker 1: come up, and to actually after six months of travel
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know how many countries, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm have to calculate that out. But you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of countries, a lot of a lot of miles
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  Speaker 1: of dirt, a lot of miles of really really bad roads.
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  Speaker 1: To end up at the other end of it without
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  Speaker 1: a single failure, I think is really promising. I'm certainly
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  Speaker 1: excited by the prospects of the brand.
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  Speaker 2: So so I know we're going to hear at a
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  Speaker 2: later date, we're going to hear more about Yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 2: do the full tirety of the trip, but out of
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  Speaker 2: all the big expeditions that you've led and been a
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  Speaker 2: part of, not necessarily from the driving standpoint, I know
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  Speaker 2: that there's a few expeditions and trips that you've done
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  Speaker 2: that you know you're building roads onto max tracks that
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  Speaker 2: type of thing, right, But from a from an overall
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  Speaker 2: difficulty standpoint, not difficulty like maybe from the adventurous side
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  Speaker 2: of difficulty, Where would this Africa trip rank in everything
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  Speaker 2: that you did with Expedition seven, all the other continentsy
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  Speaker 2: you've crossed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was curious because the bureaucracy that we encountered
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  Speaker 1: around getting the vehicle into certain countries was certainly the
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  Speaker 1: most challenging that we've ever encountered, and some of it
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  Speaker 1: is the fact that this car has never been to
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  Speaker 1: these countries before, so it's not even in this sim system.
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  Speaker 1: So it causes this moment of the official going what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here? It's like gets out of the norm,
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  Speaker 1: which is what I primarily believe happened in Djibouti.
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  Speaker 2: So when they look in their book and they see
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  Speaker 2: Lankers or seventy series, but they don't see Anyos Grenady.
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  Speaker 1: There is no anious Grenadier. In fact, when I was
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  Speaker 1: in when I went into Mozambique, they had to like
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  Speaker 1: input it into the system, so they had never been
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  Speaker 1: in the system before. Now Mozambique was very accommodating because
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  Speaker 1: they're used to tourists, but a country like Djibouti is
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  Speaker 1: not used to getting tourists arriving overland. So it just
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  Speaker 1: it just made the official.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that was because the Ineos Grenadier is
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  Speaker 2: so new to the market, or do you think it
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  Speaker 2: could happen if you showed up in a four and
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  Speaker 2: two fifty or an earth Cruiser.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that potentially. I mean the advantage of
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  Speaker 1: the earth Cruiser would be that most of them are
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  Speaker 1: built on a Fuso chassis, which would be in their systems.
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  Speaker 1: But if you were to arrive in something obscure like
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  Speaker 1: an Alfa Romeo Stelvio or whatever like something like that,
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  Speaker 1: where it's just not even in the system, and not
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  Speaker 1: only was the model not in the system, the manufacturer
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  Speaker 1: isn't even in the system, so and.
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  Speaker 2: It raises a lot of red flags.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, but that will get resolved with time, so they'll
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  Speaker 1: be eventually there'll be a second Grenadier, and Ethiopia there'll
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  Speaker 1: be a second Grenadier in Djibouti, and it'll already be
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  Speaker 1: in the system, and I'm I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it will have been resolved. But that was also part
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  Speaker 1: of the fund for me, was the challenge of getting
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  Speaker 1: this brand new vehicle through a continent.
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  Speaker 2: So it was less of a test of equipment but
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  Speaker 2: more of a test of patients.
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  Speaker 1: Although the vehicle tests were because again I started to
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  Speaker 1: really push the vehicle more so than I would normally
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  Speaker 1: do on a trip where I was looking for the
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  Speaker 1: most difficult routes and gaining confidence correct, and I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to push it. So I wanted our conclusions to
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  Speaker 1: reflect a lot of really abusive conditions, so like the
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  Speaker 1: deep mud, we were in the thousands and thousands of
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  Speaker 1: kilometers of corrugations. All of those things are very trying
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  Speaker 1: on a vehicle, particularly on a new vehicle. So it
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  Speaker 1: does show that kind of well of experience that is
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  Speaker 1: available in Graz, who they not only designed the g Wagon,
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  Speaker 1: but they also design the Grenadier, so a deep well
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  Speaker 1: of knowledge around making durable vehicles, because it's very hard
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  Speaker 1: to get that right right out of the gate like
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  Speaker 1: they did. So, I mean, we'll do a full podcast
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  Speaker 1: on our experience with the Grenadier, the pros and the
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  Speaker 1: cons the things that we encountered that were great and
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  Speaker 1: things that weren't so great. But it was just impressive
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  Speaker 1: to arrive, you know, six months later, twenty something thousand
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  Speaker 1: kilometers just in Africa, twenty five and some change total
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  Speaker 1: on the vehicle twenty six maybe even thousand kilometers on
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle, and then we're now shipping it from Djibouti.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to go completely around the Horn of Africa
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  Speaker 1: back up to the to the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 2: Because thanks to the pirates and terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, So there the houthy rebels that are
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  Speaker 1: just right across the way, are actively firing missiles and
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  Speaker 1: drones at chips depending on how they're flagged. But they're
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  Speaker 1: even getting that wrong sometimes, so they're they're choosing to
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  Speaker 1: send most of the freight all the way.
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  Speaker 2: Around, which is going to add it adds nearly thirty
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  Speaker 2: days to shipping.
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  Speaker 1: Probably about twenty five twenty six days, so a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time to shipping. So it's got to go all
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  Speaker 1: the way around, then back into the Mediterranean and then
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  Speaker 1: arrive in Greece, and then we're going to drive it
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  Speaker 1: through Greece the eastern side of the Adriatic, so Macedonia
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  Speaker 1: Albania trip.
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  Speaker 2: If you could have ridden along on the ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been that would have been That
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  Speaker 1: would have been amazing for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we're excited about the next segment. But well, we've
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  Speaker 1: got a series of videos and we've also got a
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  Speaker 1: series of podcasts coming out on the trip itself. And
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  Speaker 1: for those that are listening, we also want to apologize
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  Speaker 1: we missed a podcast in there due to some challenges
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  Speaker 1: with just connectivity in Africa. So we thank you all
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  Speaker 1: for your patients. As we try not to miss more
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  Speaker 1: than about one or two podcasts a year, so we're
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  Speaker 1: still on that on that track, but we don't like
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  Speaker 1: to miss any at all, but we did miss one,
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  Speaker 1: So thank you all for sticking with us as we
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  Speaker 1: had some challenges getting those things into production. But we're
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  Speaker 1: back in the swing. So it's not a reflection on
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  Speaker 1: Paula at all. It's entirely a reflection on me for
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  Speaker 1: not getting that stuff up.
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  Speaker 2: So quick question on connectivity during the trip. During your
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  Speaker 2: route through Africa is was the starlink that you had
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  Speaker 2: with you ever? Were you ever in a place where
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't use it due to laws or yes?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and I didn't And for that reason, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: bring it into Ethiopia or into JR Booty where they
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  Speaker 1: are not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you didn't even have it with you.
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  Speaker 1: I did not, okay, And I also didn't bring and
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  Speaker 1: I had it with me, and at the last minute
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  Speaker 1: I chose to not bring in the iridium that I
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  Speaker 1: had as well, which is an Iridium Go Executive, which
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  Speaker 1: is a very suitable connectivity tool for this kind of travel.
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  Speaker 1: It's much smaller than a starlink and it doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have a lot of the vulnerabilities that starlink does.
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  Speaker 1: At the moment because Starlink is being used in so
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  Speaker 1: many different theaters of operation that it's under constant attack,
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  Speaker 1: whereas the Iridium network is very lockdown. It is very
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  Speaker 1: commercial in nature. It's also very like NGEO government in nature,
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  Speaker 1: so it's very robust around uptime.
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  Speaker 2: And is that the same with drones? Did you have
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  Speaker 2: any drones?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could not bring You cannot bring a drone
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  Speaker 1: into Ethiopia. I did not even look to see if
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  Speaker 1: you could bring a drone into Djibouti because.
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  Speaker 2: It's all regarded even the communications tools are regarded as
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  Speaker 2: military equipment.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct, They're generally viewed as military equipment. But then
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  Speaker 1: the secondary issue is that you know, I was traveling
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  Speaker 1: through these places as a traveler.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a.
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  Speaker 1: Like a traditional news style journalist, sure, but you'd never
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  Speaker 1: want to give them the impression that you are there
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  Speaker 1: to document some of the conflicts that are happening in
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  Speaker 1: northern Ethiopia or in certain areas of Djibouti. You're not
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  Speaker 1: allowed to be there as a journalist under those auspices.
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  Speaker 1: So it was just really important to me that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even give the impression that I was there under
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  Speaker 1: those conditions. I was there as a tourist and certainly
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  Speaker 1: will be covering it in content as a tourist, but
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  Speaker 1: which is permitted. But you don't want to give them
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  Speaker 1: any reason to believe that you're there too, because you
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  Speaker 1: want you have some political agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's just it's going to be really interesting how
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  Speaker 2: the advancement of this technology in use by overlanders who
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  Speaker 2: are out exploring the world, and they're not going to
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  Speaker 2: have the luxury of saying, well, we're gonna we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: stash it at this one country and then get it
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  Speaker 2: pick it up the next country. It's just kind of
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  Speaker 2: it's in the vehicle. How do you deal with that?
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  Speaker 2: And it's just going to get more and more.
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  Speaker 1: Most of them are well, most of them are lucky
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  Speaker 1: at the moment because they people don't really know what
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  Speaker 1: it is. So like we were never asked about the
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  Speaker 1: starlink when we had it on the vehicle for Tanzania
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  Speaker 1: and for Kenya, okay, And I mean they didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know that it was there because it was up on
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  Speaker 1: the top of the vehicle and it it didn't look
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like an antenna up on like a yeah, raw,
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  Speaker 1: it's flat mounted to the vehicle because of that unique
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  Speaker 1: componentry conversion, so it's totally under the radar and most
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  Speaker 1: people are just traveling with the starlink. Now, there are
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  Speaker 1: countries where you can just get in a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of trouble for that if you get caught. So I
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  Speaker 1: chose to go with limited communication as opposed to the
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  Speaker 1: possibility of not achieving the objective of crossing the continent.
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  Speaker 1: So I think most travelers will probably be like, oh, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know, and then the thing gets confiscated and
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  Speaker 1: maybe you've got to pay a fine or whatever, Whereas
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  Speaker 1: I just wasn't willing. I wasn't willing, and I felt
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with the tools that I had in place to
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  Speaker 1: be able to resolve those things. I did have a
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  Speaker 1: garment in reach with me for the entire trip, which
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  Speaker 1: would have allowed for us to have remote communications if
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle had had a significant issue.
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  Speaker 2: We've done that before quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct, but certain countries, even like India, and garment
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  Speaker 1: in reach is a controlled item, So you've got to
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  Speaker 1: really understand what you're up against on those things and
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  Speaker 1: understand that there's there are shades of gray around some
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  Speaker 1: of these things. I just on this trip chose to
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  Speaker 1: not engage with any of those shades of gray.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like a whole other podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, absolutely, but no, the starlink is a
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  Speaker 1: game changer because you're going down the road in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of Africa, like in the Serengetti at ten megabits
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  Speaker 1: a second while you're driving crazy. So it's just it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's an incredible tool and it gives you a
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  Speaker 1: lot of confidence with these new or more complicated vehicles
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  Speaker 1: because you can plug in a workbook into it and
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  Speaker 1: you can you can do you can clear codes, you
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  Speaker 1: can download updates, you can do all of those things
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  Speaker 1: if you had to, which is why we had that
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  Speaker 1: stuff along with us, but fortunately we didn't need to
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: Sure that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So Africa was amazing. We're excited to share
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  Speaker 1: more about that in the future. But oh, and then
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  Speaker 1: I also was able to interview Kingsley Holgate while I
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  Speaker 1: was in South Africa, and he's just an incredible individual.
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  Speaker 1: So for those that are listening, please look for the
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  Speaker 1: Kingsley Holgate interview coming out in the next couple weeks,
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  Speaker 1: which is it's one of the most incredible interviews I've
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  Speaker 1: ever done in twenty years being in this business, so
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  Speaker 1: he's an absolute gem saint. So that was very very cool.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. And then when I was
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  Speaker 1: in South Africa, I was able to spend some time
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  Speaker 1: testing some new easy On products. So they have they
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  Speaker 1: have a new Galaxy tent. They've got some really interesting
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  Speaker 1: new products that they've brought on to the market recently
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  Speaker 1: that I think are going to appeal to a wider audience.
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  Speaker 1: Easy On products have always just been very like expedition,
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  Speaker 1: long term, overlanding focused kinds of products, things that you
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  Speaker 1: will to your net to the next generation.
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  Speaker 2: Right the last a long time was that when you're
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  Speaker 2: in Johannesburg, that's right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I was able to drive a three hundred series
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  Speaker 1: land cruiser with a diesel. I've driven the three hundred before,
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  Speaker 1: but in the gas variant, so it was nice to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: spend time with the three hundred and a diesel and
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  Speaker 1: you know, days behind the wheel of you know, in
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the back country and everything else like that. And I
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  Speaker 1: really liked this new Galaxy tent. They also have one
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's called the Saber or something along those lines.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a smaller tent for like a four door
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  Speaker 1: pickup with a short bed. So I had it on
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  Speaker 1: a high Lux and it fits on that small beds
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  Speaker 1: and it so it pops up one direction and then
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  Speaker 1: it folds out with a ladder and everything, like more
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  Speaker 1: of a traditional soft sided tent, but it's a hard
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  Speaker 1: shell aluminum tent that actually really works. No, that would
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  Speaker 1: be good, but no. I rented a vehicle from a
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  Speaker 1: company called Overlanding with Bruce, and he has a small
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: fleet of high Lux they are ready to go, including
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: some campers and stuff like that that are really sweet,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like Alu cab stuff. But then they also have easy
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: On roof tents and I really like that small format
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: rioften it was very cool, but so was the Galaxy.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: The Galaxy was.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Roomy, tons of headroom, huge open door. But then we
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: got caught in a storm and it did fine, nice
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like I was in it while it was raining and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: blowing and everything else, and it has a lot of
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: surface area, but it did fine. So that was cool.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So some nice new stuff from easy On that are
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: worth checking out. Nice to see such a long standing
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: company continuing to innovate.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: So they've got to be forty fifty years now.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're over forty years yeah. Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. So you right before or right as I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: was leaving, or maybe even a week or a couple
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: of days after.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I left early January, Yeah, you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Went and participated in the launch of the new Lexus
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: GX five point fifty.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: They did a first drive event down in Tucson, Arizona.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That was convenient, really convenient. I we just drove down,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: which is cool. I was at shot Show for a
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: few days, did Shot Show I think for Monday Tuesday,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and then drove over to Tucson and then drove the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Lexus for Wednesday through Friday. It was neat. They had
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: all the different trim levels there. We were really more
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: focused on the overtrail man. It is just they have
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: six different versions of that vehicle. It's so cool.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Because Lexus has always made, or almost always had available
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a pinnacle vehicle for overland travel, they just never really
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: knew what they had. I mean they did, but they
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: didn't really market it in that way.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And that goes all the way back to the original
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: eighty series that was rebranded as a as an LX,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and then of course.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: The original eighty series was rebranded.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It was for the last couple of years you could
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: get a lex I believe it was a four fifty
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: mice sincere apologies, so they're listening that if I get
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that wrong, But.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: The guys who are like twitchy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So I think, I think I got that right. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it had a straight six. It was just like the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: eighty series, but it had some, you know, a little
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: bit more luxurious trimmings, and it had the Lexus badge
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: on the front. So they started all the way back
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: then with a solid ear.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: That version looks a lot more like an.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Eighty series, that's right. And then they had one hundred
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: series based LX, and then they had a two hundred
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: series based LX, and then they even have the new
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: lex six hundred, which is based on the three hundred series.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So it's the only variant of the three hundred series
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: land cruiser that we get is the current Lexus model,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: at least for the time being. So to see them
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: come out with this GX five point fifty overtrail is
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: no question. And from what I've heard from the folks
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: at Lexus, they see the opportunity of the overland audience
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: because they buy new vehicles. They're adventure minded, they do
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: like some comfort because of the road trip nature of
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: travel by VA. So Lexus is a perfect fit.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: And you can see the lack, say, look at the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: last three years, right, so two seamas ago, so it
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: would have been twenty twenty two they had they had
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: all their new Lexus vehicles. But when you when you
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: listen to their team talk about the new vehicles they
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: were they talked a lot about overlanding. They talked a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: lot about adventure, luxurious adventure. It was part of their vocabulary.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Fast forward to twenty twenty three, Sema. That's a big booth.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: If your it's got to be two hundred by fifty
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: or something, you know, it's a big booth for Sema.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And they had a good well, they had three vehicle
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: positions that were dedicated to user builds. So they brought
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: in three general consumers who had older model Lexuses and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: had built them into over a Lexi Alexi. Yeah, Lexus,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and there were I can't remember all the models, but
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: there are different years and different models. But there was
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: one that was you know, completely lifted. I think it
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: was on thirty seven inch mud tires. Sweet and then
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: there was another one that was owned by or probably
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you know, just a couple who was out traveling. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: then there was one that was owned by a single
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: individual guy who was out traveling. But it showed me
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that they were really embracing the end user, yeah, of
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: how people were using these vehicles for adventure.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you see it at the overland expos with
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the Lexus vehicles there, you see it at at SIMA
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: with the Lexus vehicles that are very much intended for
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: overlanding and for travel. They've got Kurt Williams involved, which he.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Does train a lot of training for the TV. Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: So like if Kurt Williams is involved the corporate level
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: with Lexus around overlanding, I mean, they're clearly committed because
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Kurt is one of the best folks that I can
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: think of to do that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is the training that Kurt's been
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: doing as far as what I understand is he has
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: been training the staff at a lot of different levels
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: from engineering to vehicle design and marketing and pr about
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: what adventures travel with the vehicle entails. And he's even
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: had him out driving the vehicles. And I was talking
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: with him one about one event, and he had people
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: who had never driven the vehicles off road, sure, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: he was there, you know, engaging little range and they're
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: going through these obstacles and people had no idea what
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: these vehicles could do. But they work on them every
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: day in some capacity. So it was really valuable for
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that team.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: It's very clear, and I hope that the Lex six
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: hundred receives the same kind of treatments at some point,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: but it is very clear that the five point fifty
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: overtrail is them going all in, which we heard from
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Toyota Marketing years ago they were going all in on overlanding,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and you can see that they built a vehicle that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be incredibly popular.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know. So we we got the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: chance to drive it really for two days. The first
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: day we drove it primarily on the road, and how
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: did how did that go? Did it?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Because it's it's got a lot of off road hardware,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: including some fairly aggressive all terrain tires. It does pretty
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: upright wind screen, It.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Was very stable. Yeah, it has a really confident footprint. Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: so when you're you know, it was it was quick
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: off the line, it was easy to stop. It didn't
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: have any I didn't notice any wallow. Yeah, which a
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: you know, a large it's a big, heavy truck. Sure
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and and maybe that's part of the advancement in you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you know, electronic and valving suspension and kind of the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: new advancements. But yeah, you get into an older Alexis
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: or an older land Cruiser and you you know, you
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: flick the wheel around and you kind of feel this
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: wallow from side to side, even of the stock suspension.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Sure and this didn't have any of that, So it
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: was very surefooted. Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it you know, the fact that it's it
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: has now a rear locking differential, which is a first
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for Alexis product other than it may have been the
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: uh the the first Lex and the second Lex had
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: at least a rear locker available. The first Lex could
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: have gotten the front and rear locker. But the fact
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that it has a rear locking differential, center locking differential,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: advanced traction control, which is going to be even better
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: than the a track that we know from a couple
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of years ago. I mean, this thing's going to be
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: very capable on the trail. And it looks like it
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: just has good angles and clearance. Overall.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can see all the corners very easily.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: You can see over the hood quite well.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: One of the things I liked about the hood was
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that it's a it's a pretty sheer ninety degree angle
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: at the front, so you know the what I've never
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: really liked some of the older Lexus models that had
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: kind of that that pointy hood with the grill. The
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: grill that like looked like it went on forever, right,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And with this new just hard angled grill and front end,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you can go right up to something and feel like
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you know where the bumper is sure, and the bumper
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't stick out, so the front of the vehicle's flat.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And it looks like it's just ready for the aftermarket.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: It is like they really set it up to be
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: supported by the aftermarket.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: They did, and I asked them about that because it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: it doesn't come it's not going to come with a winch.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: They don't have a provision from the factory for a winch.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: But when you look at the front grill, when you
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: look at the front area, there's a skid plate at
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: least on the overtrail plus and the overtrail as well,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: there's a skid plate that is incorporated up into the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: grill area, and so you can remove that skid plate
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and then from the looks of it, because there's a
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: seam that runs just below all the sensors, it looks
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: like you can remove the lower portion of the bumper facia. Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: it's not even really a bumper, right, So you can
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: remove that lower portion and then you should be able
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to bolt on some sort of an aftermarket bumper solution
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: that winch that could accommodate a winch. Wow.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I have no doubt that they're
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: going to crush it with this vehicle, because it's going
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to be They sell so many Toyta sell so many Forerunners,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: but they never really had like the luxurious version of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the TRD or the TRD Pro.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: This thing is nothing but luxury, Yeah, exactly.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: So you get like this very comfortable via drive back
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and forth to work every day.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You're going to have the experience of buying the vehicle
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: from a Lexus dealership, which has the highest customer satisfaction
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: of any dealerships. So you just have this overall luxurious
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: engagement with the manufacturer. But you can still go do
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Hell's Revenge and mo.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So you get into the vehicle and it's all leather,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: it's volumeless on the inside. It's really big, but it
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel you know, sometimes a big truck is going
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to feel oversized.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe boldous, whereas this just seems taller, like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it's got more headroom and more overall height.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: But you can lean over from the driver's seat and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: get the other door, yeah, right, Whereas you know, some
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: vehicles you think of like a big, you know, a
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: big full sized pickup truck. You got to undo your
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: seatbelt and crawl over to get the door right, right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: But then besides that, it's really big user interface screens,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: very comfortable seating position, heated and cooled seats, and massaging seats.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I think a find different massage modes on both front seats.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So that was amazing and everything about it was comfortable.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: And when you over the past couple of years, you
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: drive a lot of these vehicles, and it's a lot
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of these things are better or for worse, they they're
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: they're to be expected, right, And so some of these
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: vehicles you get in and you're like you're trying to
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: be impressed because a lot of the things are well, yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: of course we have that technology. Of course this vehicle
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: should be able to do that. This one felt it
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: kind of had this I mean, I don't want to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: overuse the word luxury, but it had this really nice
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: feeling to.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: It quality, probably more even than luxury.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: You know where you got in it and you were
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: proud to be driving it. You kind of had this
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: smile on your face and then knowing that you could,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: you know, get off of the get off the pavement,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: go explore the desert all day, or the mountains or
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: whatever it might be. It has this extra level of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: confidence for such a vehicle.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, huge breadth of capability. I'm super excited about the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the Lexus, the GX. I think they're going to crush
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it with that. I can't wait to see what the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: aftermarket does with it. It's fairly priced given modern vehicle pricing,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: so it's just going to be really cool to see
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: how it comes together.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I think personally as a as a buyer, i'd be
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: cautious with the aftermarket. It didn't feel like it needed
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, you know it has it's It would
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: be easy to put a roof rack on it. It
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: would be nice to have a winch for, you know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: just for that extra safety factor.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. But people that travel so long.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't mess with the suspension. I wouldn't
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: try to stick a bigger tire on it, you know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: within within means, I think you could probably put maybe
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: one size up easily. Yeah, but I wouldn't just start
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: chopping on them. I mean that the amount of technology
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and the amount of engineering that's that's gone into this
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: this vehicle is so impressive that I just use it
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: as long as you can buy it, buy it and go. Yeah,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: because you're not the truck's going to outdrive you. You're
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: not going to find its limitations on a regular basis. Sure, right,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: If you're finding the limitations of that vehicle on a
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: regular basis, it might not be the vehicle you need.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or you know, for for vehicle based travel.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: It's gonna do.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: It's going to do everything you wanted to.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: The cargo areas is huge. Cool. Yeah, that's going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: be fun to see. And we just we opened it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: up and we just started throwing gear in it just
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: to see how it would I would kind of kind
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and we had two backpacks and Pelican case and tripods,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and it just kind of kept on taking gear and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: then you could we step back and look at it. It
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: was only half full. Yeah, that's great, you know, So
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it was. It was nice.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very exciting new vehicle. Nice job exos on that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: When I left about the same time as you did,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I was going to Morocco to ride the new Dukati
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Desert X rally.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: That looks like a nice bike. It is.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: The biggest problem that everyone who's tested this bike has
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: is not coming across as a total fanboy or fan girl,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: right because it's that good. Dukati clearly spent a lot
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: of energy making this bike exceptional, and I think that
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: they weren't afraid to try some new things that we
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: haven't seen in that class of motorcycle up until this point.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: That kind of midweight motorcycle has always they've always been
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: intentionally constrained because they had bigger bikes on their menu.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So like the BMW eight hundred gs or eight fifty
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: was kind of it was always okay, but they because
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: they put so much energy in emphasis on the twelve to.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Fifty eight and fifty were kind of a stop gap.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It was a filler yeah, it just filled in the lineup,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: but it never they It's like they intentionally held them
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: back so that someone would have a reason to buy the.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, so they're not cannibalizing them.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: The twelve hundred or the twelve fifty right, Whereas it
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: looks to me like Ducati didn't even think about the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: fact that they have the multi Strata, which they do
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: have it in some variants that can go off road,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but it's never been an off road bike. It's always
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: been a touring bike that can do some dirt. So
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: they just unshackled the engineers and the marketing team around
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Desert X and they built I think one of
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the best adventure bikes that I've ever ridden.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Does it have all the functionality that they added to
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the bike? Is it? Are they things that you are
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: happy that they brought to the bike or did they
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: just kind of fill it with a bunch of random
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: functionality and farcles.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: That it doesn't feel like that at all. It doesn't
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: feel like that at all. Whereas, like on the Multi Strata,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it has radar cruise control, which it's somewhat interesting. It
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: would probably help you on really long trips, but like, no,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the Desert x rally doesn't have anything that you don't need.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: In fact that they took the time to engineer an
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: auxiliary fuel tank for it that goes underneath the rear
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: seat and it adds another one point eight gallons of
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: fuel to the five point five or.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Five point Really they built it for the rider.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: They built it for yeah, for doing big trips. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: mean really, they really did. And it has one hundred
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and ten horse power, which, if you think about it,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: not that long ago a BMW twelve hundred had less
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: horsepower than that. So this is a bike that weighs
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty five pounds, so over one hundred
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: pounds lighter than a GS twelve hundred, has the same
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: horsepower as a GS from a few years ago. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the reality is is that off road most bikes, when
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you go into an off road mode, they pull back
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the horsepower to about one hundred anyways, And like if
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you look at the KTM nine to fifty that you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and I ride, that is a hundred horsepowered dirt bike.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So a hundred horsepower in an adventure bike is about
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: perfect for the dirt. Anything more than that and you're
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: just asking for it, and it's and it's also just
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it's hard to control it because riding on the dirt
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: does require a lot of modulation and a lot of control.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: So the Desert X rally, it's got one hundred and
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: ten horsepower, it does throttle it back and some of
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the off road modes.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: You can also open it up.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, And that's the thing about it, because the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Italians don't care, so you can you can shut off
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: every safety feature that you choose on the bike. Really
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you can just go into full like buzz bugs bladder mode,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, you can do that, and it's
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: incredible off road it it's incredibly forgive. It has some
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of the best turning stability and grip that we've experienced
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: on any of the bigger bikes, and a lot of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that is because of the way that it's built around
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: weight distribution and also that it's very lightweight.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: So the only images that I've seen of that bike
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: test of you riding that bike, you're either sideways or
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: you're in the air.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you kind of it kind of wanted
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you to do that, like it the bike felt very
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: very confident inspiring around that and you know, literally the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: only thing that was the limitation on that test for
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: me is I brought the wrong helmet. It was very,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: very dusty, so I just needed to give a lot
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: of space around the dust because I didn't have an
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: off road helmet with goggles. That was my mistake. And
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: then interestingly, I mean we were riding so hard. I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: had not been riding that much before that, so I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was hitting the limits of my fitness, my cardiovascular fitness, okay,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: around that much riding at those speeds for that length
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of time. So like, fortunately, I never I didn't drop
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the bike, I didn't have I didn't get stuck, I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: didn't have any issues. But I was very much cognizant
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: of the fact that I'm not I wasn't in writing shape.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: But that that's something that I think not a lot
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: of people think about. Yeah, and you see a lot
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: of these, you know, adventure bikes are totally overloaded. You
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: know that when they're out they're not pushing it that hard.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: But the fact that you can push these bikes that
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: hard and that it does become a physical it's a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: physical workout, it's big time.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And the terrain that we were riding was technical enough
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that you were in it like you were really pushing You're.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Sally saying motocross racing is one of the most physically
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: demanding sports.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now you make it a four hundred and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: sixty five pound bike and you really start to press yourself,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: which was great. It was good for me to be
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: reminded of that.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I hadn't been riding in a little while because of
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: things that were going on, but it inspired me to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: get back on the bike and make sure that I'm
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: always in writing.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Shape well, and you know, not to push your limits
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and you find your limits.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Well in this case, if you don't push, you don't
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: keep up. So I was I was pinging like my
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: my Garmin watch was like, try not to kill yourself
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: like I was. I was sitting at like one hundred
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and fifty to one hundred and sixty five beats per
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: minute for like hours at a time.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Mine told me the other day that I was overtraining.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It gets very judgmental at times, yeah, exactly.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: So the bike is incredible. Ducati should be really proud
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: of the motorcycle. I think that for most travelers the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: rally is going to be more than what they need,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and they should consider the standard Desert X. It's a
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: lower seat height, it's quite a bit less expensive. One
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: of the things that I found interesting was that they
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: included everything for heated grips, including the button. They just
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: didn't have the heating elements in the grips, okay, and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that I I think that that's a mistake when manufacturers
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: do that because it's such an expensive motorcycle for what
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: it is. I mean, there's a lot of content, but
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I think that you're better off just providing the customer
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: with the heated grips because it's a rounding error in
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the motorcycle and.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Then you know it's done right. You know, people try
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: to do it themselves. You're taken into the shop and
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: pay a couple hundred bucks to have it done.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when there's the button right there. That's going
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: to make people be like seriously, So that was one
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: of the things. The seat height is actually quite high.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm six' one and the bike felt comfortable to.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Me it's kind of about the same height as the
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: nine point FIFTY, ktm but that can be.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: A very tall.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Byte so you're talking about a thirty six inch ish seat,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: height so it's a tall, motorcycle so it's gonna inherently
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: restrict some people from being able to ride it unless
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: they're very.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Experienced does that base model come With will it accept
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: the auxiliary?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Tank it, Will and it has a low, fender it
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: has a little less suspension, travel and it's a lower
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: motorcycle as, well so there are some advantages to. That
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it uses An olan, suspension whereas the rally uses A
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: kyb suspension, system which is just like it's over the.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: TOP i mean it's nine point eight inches of suspension
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in the front and nine point four in the, rear
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: so like your your rallying the, thing and it's just it.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Is it is an awesome, motorcycle AND i would say
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that it is most likely the MOTORCYCLE i would buy
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: for my own, use although The triumph twelve Hundred SCRAMBLER
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: xe would be a close.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Section different bike though different reasons.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe but that was those would be the two THAT
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: i would be deciding. Between SO i think either One
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: i'd be super happy, with BUT i think for long
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: distance travel The dukati would be a better choice because
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: of the fuel tank.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Size do they have factory luggage?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Everything, okay they literally have everything for this bike to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: ride it around the, world.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: And what what is the price point?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Range, yeah so they you, know they they are going
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: to range into the low. Twenties so it's a fairly
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: expensive motorcycle by the time you get it all all,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: upfitted so really really.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Competing with the.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: BMWs, yeah and it's going to just run circles around. It,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: LOOK i mean not to take anything away from a
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: twelve fifty or. Anything just, yeah, anyways it's an awesome.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Bike, yeah awesome.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Bike we also started a new project vehicle based upon
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: The wrangler four BY e and we worked With Real
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: truck on, that and this is my first time working
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: with them and just kind of. ORDERING i was just
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: really impressed with the degree of communication that we. RECEIVE
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: i have always just kind of been, like IF i
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: have a, Jeep i'm gonna put a on it and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: be done with. It but in this, CASE i went
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: with a different kind of lift BECAUSE i wanted to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: try something. New so with a super, lift it's Got fox.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Shocks the ride quality is. EXCELLENT i did end up,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: though still going WITH aev brackets BECAUSE aev just does
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: one of the best jobs in the industry of making.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Sure that the geometry figured, out.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Making sure that the geometry is figured out so and
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it also lowers the role center with the rear drag
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: link and a rear pan hard, rod so it makes
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: a huge difference on role center with the realignment.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Bracket with Those, bolton well They're.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Bolton they're all bolt. On the whole kit Is. Bolton
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: But i'm a real fan of the whole four BY
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: e program FROM gep BECAUSE i can plug the thing
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: in and every possible errand you could do And, prescott
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: you can do it all on electric. Mode, okay but
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you got thirty five inch and.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: It's got twenty six twenty seven miles range.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: From much less than that now because of the larger,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: tires so probably twenty one twenty.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Two it's still great for around.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Town it's enough for around, town but then you can
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: keep the fuel tank full and if you're LIKE i
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: got to run down The phoenix real, quick you can
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: just go do a long road. Trip So i'm really
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: impressed with the. Jail you've had yours for a long,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: time but this is my first time really being able
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to spend time in the, jail AND i like that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: four BY e program that they got going.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: On So i've got the twenty, eighteen AND i had
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to grow into it a little. BIT i think WHEN
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: i first got, it we, had you, know with with
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: having two, teenagers who are you, know size of adults are.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Tall when they were both in, house it was it was. Tight,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: yeah you're really like finding every little nook and granny for.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Storage now that they're you, know one's out of the
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: house in college and one's driving on his own most
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: of the, part it's kind of, like at the most
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: we have three people in, it it's a little bit
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: easier to. Manage we also we put a box up
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: on top that we use quite a bit for two.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: People it's. Great, yeah but they. Do they've always been
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: a little bit smaller on the inside THAN i was originally.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Expecting BUT i spent quite a bit of time in
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the four ye last.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Summer that's, right you've spent some time driving, them, both
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: The Grand cherokee and The.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Wrangler you've Driven Grand cherokee was probably my favorite four
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: ye That i've driven so.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Far, yeah IF i didn't do this stuff for a,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: living AND i just needed a super cool car to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: drive back and forth to work and go hiking and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: go into a trailer and everything, Else like it's it's,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: unbelievable how good That Grand.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Cheroche The wrangler was really nice in when you're out
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: on the trail to be able to go over to electric,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: model totally super, quiet roll all the windows, down and
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: it was a different experience out in the. Forest it
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: was really.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Neat, Yeah so here's a hack around. That so when
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you know you're going to go drive off, highway take
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: it out of hybrid mode and put it into what's
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: CALLED e SAVE E dash save mode and then that
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: other than if you have a really heavy acceleration event or,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: whatever it is constantly topping off the battery and not
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: using electric to improve miles per gallon that, way when
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you get to the, trail you now have twenty miles.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Approximately but you've got a full.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Battery you've got a full battery for and it's so
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: nice to drive off highway in AN EV i say
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's much. Better, Yeah LIKE i don't need
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to announce. That i'm, like you, know have open pipes or,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: whatever like LIKE i like.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: IT i like the car to be super. Quiet, well
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: were we, WERE i had it on a trail and
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the guy in front of me had A Porsche cayenne
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: yeah that he, had you, know kind of off roaded, right,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: oh completely modified and it was all, brappy and we were.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Passed it was a multi use trail with hikers on, It,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: yeah and they would all like scramble to the side
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: of the trail and move over as they heard this
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: guy coming right and then they'd get back on the
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: trail and then they didn't even hear me coming and
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: they were surprised to see the jeep come around the
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: corner and so and then they were really. Friendly it
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: was a nice interaction with. Folks.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: YEAH i mean the reason Why i'm out there in
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: nature is to experience nature and also have more interactions with.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Animals because the vehicle is so, quiet you see a
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: lot more. Animals they're not scared off by. It so
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the four by e's a win for me and it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: been fun to work on that. Project we put The
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: nitto tires onto The grappler tires and they're very very
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: quiet on the, road but they have a really aggressive
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: kind of outer lug segment and a lug that wraps
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: around the, sidewall so they're quiet on the. Road they
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: do fairly well in the, wet but then they also
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: have a more aggressive side lug for or climbing up
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: rocks for that mechanical, king or for clearance of mud
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and snow if you need some if you're getting your tread.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Packed so it's really kind of a nice hybrid between
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: an All it's like a mild all terrain in the
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: center of, it but then a little more aggressive all
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: terrain on the.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Shoulders and it's nice to see another manufacturer coming out
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: with really thoughtful tire.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Design, yeah And nittto's node known for making really bomber,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: tires so they're known to be super. Durable they've always
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: been known to be. Durable now they've got some more
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: advanced tread, patterns so they're really coming into their. Own
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: so that's been cool to mount those tires up and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: really test those. Out we'll have a full report on those.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Soon and that wasn't a knock on Those Porsche. Cayennes
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: they're pretty. Cool oh, yeah when they're off. ROADED i actually.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: People have GOTTEN i actually so excited about it after.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah the challenge that people have with The cayennes is
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that they, see, like, oh this car is eighteen thousand,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: dollars but you're Buying you're actually buying one hundred and
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars, Car so you're going to have the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: maintenance and service of one hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Vehicle it's not, free it's it is the furthest thing from.
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  Speaker 1: well so tell me about your experience with the New,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: ranger Because i'm super, ridiculous super interested in. That it
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: was pretty. Awesome, yeah and that was The ranger wrapped
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: or part of.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: It so isn't it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Like The assault or something Like Assault. SCHOOL i don't
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: like the. NAME i think it's a horrible name for the,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: school but it's a cool. School, yeah, Right, so you,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: know to back up real, QUICK i spent two days
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: with With ford and The ranger, program and the first.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Day was the THE, exl THE xlt and The lariat
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: and that was all on road and it was good
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: To what made it interesting is we were up in
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: the mountains Of utah and we got hit by a
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: snowstorm on the same. Day so it just added a
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: lot to the experience OF i, mean we've all been
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: on these drives and you go drive around in the
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: mountains on the pavement and it's. Okay but now when
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: you've got it became an. Adventure it was one hundred
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: feet of visibility and Ultimately i'm driving in twelve inches
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: of snow.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And that's happened to you twice now In utah when
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you went on a vehicle.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Launch utah is terribly.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Unpredictable, yeah because you were on a range over launch
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and like you had one hundred Foot oh my, god we.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Had twenty eight inches of snow in twelve. Hours, yeah.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly that was pretty. Cool so.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: The one package THAT i think is, interesting the one
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: PACKAGE i think that's the most interesting IS fx.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Four so THE xlt with THE fx four, PACKAGE i would,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Say i'd say that's the most for overlanding and vehicle
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: travel where you've got a really good vehicle that you
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: can use on the.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Day rear locking, differential upgraded, shocks larger diameter, tires some skid,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: plates but you can still get it into that sixteen
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: hundred pounds of, payload which is.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Awesome everyday vehicle you can go adventure. In you, know
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you might even be able to get away with a very,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: small lightweight camper type situation on the. Back oh for.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: SURE i mean it's it's got the. BEST i, mean
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it's on par with A gladiator for, payload and it
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: can be The ranger and The gladiator can sometimes be
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: thirty or forty percent higher payload than the, competition and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: no one else is really that. Close so to get
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: THE fx four package where you've got rear, locker you
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: got some off road chops with, it but then you
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: can still get into that sixteen hundred or so pounds of.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: PAYLOAD i mean that's a real win because that's not
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: just a go fast. Camper you could put a four
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: wheel camper in the back of that.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Thing and they're. Tiny, yeah you, know for the most,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: part the dimensions are, tiny so.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: They're not an over over bloated mid size for.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Sure you, know the funder you, know the sides are
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: fairly sheer, again you, know like we were talking about
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: with The lexus on the on the on the, angles
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: it's it's fairly sheer on all four, sides so it
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: was easy to identify your corners and your you, know
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the front and back.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Limits AND i think it's because it's for an international,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: market you. GO i, mean it's one of the most
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: popular trucks now In. Australia it's that finally outbeat the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the Highlex.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: SO i was talking TO arb a couple of weeks
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: ago and they said that in The australian, market The
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: ranger is out has outsold The. Highls, yeah which is. Unbelievable,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: now granted it's last, year it outsold them by like
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty four. Units, well, still they'll take.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: It, Still i'm sure they. Work i'm sure they worked
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: really hard to make sure that.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Happen.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah SO i can imagine if they were like
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: under by three or something like. That but, NO i,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: mean it's The. Ranger it's a very legitimate. Vehicle the
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: other thing THAT i like about The ranger is it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: it's a very honest. Truck it's not trying to be
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: something that it's.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Not, yeah you can.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Get in a couple of different cab, configurations which is
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: hard to. Find SO i Just i'm Really i'm really
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: excited to see the updates that they've. Had and now The,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: raptor The Ranger.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Raptor so The raptor is a totally different. VEHICLE i,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: mean it's a it's a different, chassis it's you, know
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: it's a wider it's a you, know the wider footprint
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: by i think three and a half, inches different, suspension different,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: engine DIFFERENT i mean everything about it is. Different you, know.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Four hundred, horsepower, right something like four and. Five SO
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: i think it's the same five same engine that's in
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the in The Bronco.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Raptor it is it's a three liter or three.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Point five or some point, yeah either, one, yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: But it is it's the same one as The broncos
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: be it. Automatic so that thing is it's fast and it's.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Quick and then and when you combine that with the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: footprint it was when we did so we took that
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: for a full day of just nothing but you, know
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: four wheel, drive and we were we went out to
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: so they take you To so if you buy A
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Ranger raptor or any of The, raptors if you buy
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: A Bronco raptor or AN f one Fifty, raptor is
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: part of the price of the, truck you get a
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: day at A Raptor Assault. School and so if you
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: buy The Ranger, raptor you you have to get yourself.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: There but once you're, there you get treated to The
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Ford Performance Racing school and The raptor part of that
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: is The Assault. School so it's just outside Of Salt Lake,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: city a, big nice new facility connected to a warehouse
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: full of trucks and. Vehicles you get in the vehicles,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: there you drive about thirty minutes on the, pavement which
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: is nice because now you get to get the feel
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: for the, Vehicle you get to go through all the drive,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: modes and then they take you to this piece of
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: private property that has three different driving courses and then
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: probably four or five kind of dedicated skill development demonstrations
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: right and then across the road from that there's a
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: big piece of blm land that they have access to
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: use For, basically it's a steep, climb sharp rock, crawling
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: and then a really steep, descent and so you really
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: get to go through all the drive modes and you
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: get to see what this vehicle can. Do and SO
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: i would say that The Ranger raptor is enough of
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: a different vehicle that if you do buy, it you
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: go to this, school they teach you about all the
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: functionality and, capability and then they've got really enthusiastic. Instructors
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: they want you to drive these. Vehicles they want you
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: to learn how to drive, them and so you get
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: to push the vehicle in a different in it, well
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: it's in a controlled, environment which.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And that's the, key that's the key BECAUSE i think
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons that prompted that was the number
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of raptors that were getting wrapped around a pole or
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: wrapped around a tree because people start writing checks that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: their experience has no business trying to.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Cash, yeah, yeah it's easy to it's so there was
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: one course that it's it's Their baja course AS i
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: don't know the. DISTANCE i don't know how long the
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: track is distance, wise but it was thirteen turns AND i,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: found at least on my WHAT i found is that
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: you get you're going from one turn to the next
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: and the, next and you kind of forget that there's another.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Turn you Forget you're just into. It, yeah and there's
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: just so much going on and the vehicle is doing
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: everything that you want it to, sure so you're really
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: keeping up with the. Vehicle the vehicle's not trying to
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: keep up with, you, Right which was a lot of
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: fun and it was neat because, yeah you get to
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: throw the truck sideways and.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: You got to even jump it a little.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Bit, yeah we got to jump. It and there were
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: there were two. Jumps there was one that was a
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: dedicated jump and you you get set up and you
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: put it into manual mode and second gear in low
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: range and you floor it and you started a, cone
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: you floor it and then you just stay on it
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: until you're airborne and then you let off the throttle
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: and then it lands and you. Break so it was
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: a very controlled. Jump the other one was on The baja.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Course it's actually a, dip so it's a big suspension
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: dip where you would YOU i don't know if you
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: bottom out or, not but if you do bottom, out
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: it you don't. Know it absorbs it so. Well but
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: we had a couple of RUNS i. Had it was
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: me and two other people in the car and we
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: would go you Can they just say go as fast
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: as you. Want so it's that the very last runout
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: after you're done with all the, turns and you would kind,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: of you, know errate off of it and then you'd squish.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Right but then my last RUN i was all by,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: myself and so you get a little bit lighter, vehicle you,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: know take a couple hundred pounds out AND i and
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: it's also like the last. Run you, know you can
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: go a little bit, faster and it's always the last
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: run that gets. You i'm pretty. Sure i'm pretty SURE
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: i aired that thing. Out it was it went up
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: in the air and it landed and you wouldn't even
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: know the. Difference there was No the suspension modulation is
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: so good that when it did land it kept tracking
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: without any additional. EFFORT, Yea so is just really. Excellent,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: yeah it's it's an active valve. System it's got five
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: or six different drive. Modes, cool so it really makes
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: a difference and you can feel. It sometimes you get
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: in a vehicle and you go through all the different
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: modes and you're kind of, LIKE i DON'T i don't
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: understand what the difference. Is this one is pretty.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Nosey i'm pretty excited about the addition of this Veh,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: obviously the payloads down a little bit because of all
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the other hardware and kind of how they set it.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Up it's set up where the spring rates are set
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: up to be optimized for high performance as opposed to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: load capacity like you would have in an, Xlteam.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: So the towing capacity is a little bit, lower that's. Right.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah but in twenty, twenty actually drove A Ford Ranger
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: raptor In South africa and it was so impressive AND i, thought,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: OH i sure hope that they bring that to The United.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: States so it's very cool to see it become. Available
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: and WHAT i remember about that vehicle was how capable
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: it was even in low speed technical terrain because the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: size of the, tires the locking, differential the suspension travel
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: is so, long.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: And you can put it wherever you. WANT i mean
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: you can really hunt around the, track, yeah to hunt
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: around the track to find your. Line, yeah, sure, Right
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: whereas if you're in a, big full sized, truck you're
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: just kind of there and you just you, know there's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: alose only one path to, take whereas this, thing you,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: know you could probably fit two of them side by
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: side on a lot of. Trails how. Fun so you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: can really pick around rocks and pick your. Line it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: was a nice driving. Vehicle that, SAID i think it's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: become a really competitive. Category you, know if you look
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: at the past year LIKE i, Would.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah the new stuff From, CHEVROLET.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I mean you look at, that you, know The, colorado.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: The canyon eight FOUR x, yeah.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah and all that stuff FROM aev and the and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: the thirty five from the. Factory that's. Insane LIKE i
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: think for a lot of the like if you're not
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: out there kind of just trying to go fast all the.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: TIME i think that that that would be the.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Solution, yeah because then you know it with just a massive, tire, Right,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: like you literally don't have to modify it.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Anymore you don't touch.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: It, yeah you don't have you have to touch.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: It.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah what an exciting time in our. Industry you, know
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: to have the New, OVERTRADE, lexusgx to have the New,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: ranger you, know to have The, grenadier to have all
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: of these vehicles coming, out the new the new Land,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: cruiser New forerunners, imminent you, know the new the new,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: uh the New toyota that we've, GOT i mean just
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: all of all of the new stuff that's coming. Out
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: if you look at the New tacoma for, example the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: New tacoma Trail. HUNTER i, mean there's just a lot
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: of new stuff coming out into the market THAT i
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: think is really exciting and from every, manufacturer like we
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: just talked about WITH gmc and With, chevrolet so across the,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: board everybody's really doing a good job of building these overland.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Vehicles so it's never been a better time if you're
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: in the in the market for a new vehicle than.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah there's a lot of choices and you, know
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: go gone as many test drives as you. Can, yeah
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: go check them.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Out, yeah, absolutely because it.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: DOES i found that after driving all these different, vehicles
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: it does come down to a lot of personal. Preference oh,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: yeah for. Sure they can all do what you. Want
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: they can all do more than you. Want mm. Hmm
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: so it's you, know trim packages and what you, need
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: what you don't.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Need, yeah and if you like how it looks or,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: whatever or you know where it's got the aftermarket support
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: that you. Want you, know like if you look at
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: like A gladiator, rubicon it's going to have a totally
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: different degree of capability then you would get in an arranger.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Wrapper so it's pretty exciting to see the breadth of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: options on the market right.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cool, well we'll get back together soon because there's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: still lots and lots to talk.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: About we've got.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: We got lots of new things coming onto the. Market
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: we'll try to make sure we're doing these once every
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: month or so so we can keep abreast of all
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: of the new product coming onto the. Market but coming events,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: seasons that's, Right, Yeah Overland expo will be coming up and.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Everything he a lot of new events this year that's.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah it's pretty.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Exciting, Excellent, Brian, well thanks for The, times and we
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: thank you all for listening and we'll talk to you next.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Time