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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to day three of Patriots Training Camp.
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  Speaker 1: This is a special edition of Patriots Unfiltered where we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna bring you the entire practice live high above the
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  Speaker 1: practice fields here at Chilllette Stadium. It's Fred Kersh, Paul Parillo,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Dus joining you. Evan Lazar will join us once
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  Speaker 1: he's done with his duties downstairs, and we'll be here,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, for the entirety of the practice today.
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  Speaker 1: It's day three. They're stacking them up. As Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: just said, if you if you caught that, So far
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  Speaker 1: so good, So far so good.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think the headline that most of the
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  Speaker 5: reasonable takes right now are just that you know, they're
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  Speaker 5: pretty healthy, and I think that's now going to be
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  Speaker 5: something to observe today.
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  Speaker 4: I know, Time Montgomery, I think.
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  Speaker 5: Did not finish practice yesterday and so definitely looking for him.
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  Speaker 4: He's been a really active guy.
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  Speaker 5: But overall, I think the team's been you know, just
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  Speaker 5: has a lot of of their players out here and
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  Speaker 5: able to practice and start. And I think that you know,
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  Speaker 5: in the early days, how much are we going to
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  Speaker 5: take away from the quote unquote competitive portions. Probably not much,
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  Speaker 5: but it's just great to have all these guys out
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  Speaker 5: here and able to you know, start laying the foundation
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  Speaker 5: that month.
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  Speaker 6: The day three represents a little bit of a ramp up.
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  Speaker 6: You know, they get the shells on, so there's there's
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more in the way of contact. But yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I agree with with the way Mike just described it.
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  Speaker 6: I think we'll be watching for for Time Montgomery today.
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  Speaker 6: We talked about that a little but on the show yesterday, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 6: look like you got tangled up a little bit with
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  Speaker 6: Terres Hall. We'll see if he can make it out here.
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  Speaker 6: So far, I have not spotted him, but yeah, overall,
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  Speaker 6: I would say it was it's it's been a solid start,
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  Speaker 6: the crowds have been excellent, and uh, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: weather is probably right exactly where Bill Belichick would like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that Montgomery play, McSorley was behind him with
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  Speaker 1: the pass and he got tangled up, like Paul said,
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  Speaker 1: went down, came up slow, and you know with him,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know that won't be out tomorrow.
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  Speaker 6: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is exactly what unfortunately, the narrative has
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  Speaker 5: been with him that he's productive in practice and active
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  Speaker 5: and involved, but he just you know, can't stay healthy
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  Speaker 5: for whatever reason. So you know, we'll see here in
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  Speaker 5: the next few minutes if he's able to make his
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  Speaker 5: way onto the field. Bill Belichick was asked about him
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  Speaker 5: moments ago, and he said day to day.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope, So, I hope, I hope he's out.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he can contribute, but not if he's uh
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  Speaker 1: not if he's injured. Speaking of injuries, Joe Burrow had
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  Speaker 1: a scare yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Huh yeaheah, it sounds like he dodged a boy. And uh,
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  Speaker 6: maybe Ramsey's going to be out for a little while.
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  Speaker 6: Jalen Ramsey in Miami. Yeah, probably going to miss at
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  Speaker 6: least the first half.
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  Speaker 7: Of the season.
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  Speaker 4: So really I didn't see that one.
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  Speaker 7: Miniscus, he's going to have a surgery.
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  Speaker 6: He I think they say anywhere between two and three months.
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  Speaker 6: So man, my guess is he'll be out for a
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  Speaker 6: little bit and maybe look to get back for the stretch.
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  Speaker 5: Drive always works out for the I know, well, I
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  Speaker 5: I do feel bad for for Burrow.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's you know, that's it's just
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  Speaker 8: bad for the sounds like a I worry about dealing
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  Speaker 8: with something because those become torn achilles, you know. But
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  Speaker 8: you know, but all reports out of Cincinnati were that
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  Speaker 8: he dodged a board.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it's not so just a little interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Uh do we have Oh yeah, there's Mac all right.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't catch Mac coming out there. He is okay, good,
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I just I think the game
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  Speaker 5: needs its stars to be able to play, especially quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean, you know, as much as I want,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Patriots to to compete with the Cincinnati and
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  Speaker 5: in the playoffs and those kind of things, it's uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I just I think a fan of Brow
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  Speaker 5: and it's a stinker for the game if he's going
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  Speaker 5: to be out for any period of time. But I think,
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  Speaker 5: like you said, Paul, he's been dealing with that and
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  Speaker 5: so hopefully it just tweaked it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you see Matt Judon playing catch with the crowd
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  Speaker 1: as he does, not just here in practice. He does
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  Speaker 1: that every game during the season. But he's got his
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  Speaker 1: sweats on, a hoodie. I'm not sure if he'll be
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  Speaker 1: participating fully.
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  Speaker 6: He hasn't so far, and I thought Bill, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Bill fell back on his normal We have
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  Speaker 6: several players in various stages of participation. But then he
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  Speaker 6: was asked flat out, you know, is he hurt, and
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  Speaker 6: he wouldn't. He just repeated the same answer he wouldn't say, So,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's something to keep an eye on. I
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  Speaker 6: know some of our colleagues have started to wonder if
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  Speaker 6: he's maybe, you know, not happy with his contract and
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  Speaker 6: that has something to do with it. So, yeah, something
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  Speaker 6: to keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I thought it was interesting, you know recently,
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  Speaker 5: I think last week talking to Dan Roach, you know,
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  Speaker 5: saying he'd like to be here long term. So I
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  Speaker 5: think that that's where maybe a little bit the speculation
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  Speaker 5: is coming to you know, maybe a new contract's on
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  Speaker 5: his mind and maybe they're talking to work something out
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  Speaker 5: with Judon.
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  Speaker 1: So Judon, then you got Usha and Duggar, right, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: those be the big three that you'd want to take
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  Speaker 1: care of.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think Judon still has you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think two more years, so I mean he's still you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's not quite reaching that point just yet, but certainly
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  Speaker 5: the other three you named, and Kyle Dugger with another
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  Speaker 5: interception yesterday, just you know, continuing to make plays on
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  Speaker 5: the ball, and that's always always a good thing for him.
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  Speaker 4: Good start for Dougger.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Players and coaches still arriving on the field, just
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  Speaker 1: little housekeeping cameras will go down momentarily during a first
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  Speaker 1: walk through period, and then they'll go back up during
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  Speaker 1: this stretching, and then we'll go back down at around
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  Speaker 1: ten twenty five or so for the duration, but we'll
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  Speaker 1: be here and you'll be able to hear us uh
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  Speaker 1: for the entirety of practice. Yesterday's practice went about two hours.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah you say, yeah, a little just probably a little
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  Speaker 6: short of that. But if you had off all the
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  Speaker 6: time that they stay out there and they continue their work. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: probably about two hours. I would expect that again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, weather is beautiful today. It's gonna be hot, but
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  Speaker 1: it's sunny and clear. The crowd is once again big.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm really excited about the the three days of crowds.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like this last year.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't fred I I was just talking ta mere
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  Speaker 5: about that down below, just saying, I mean, it's they're
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  Speaker 5: already got the ramps open the hot days. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know, usually you'd expect maybe the first weekend practice
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  Speaker 5: to be overly packed, but you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, not just attendance, but the energy.
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  Speaker 5: And i mean Bill was asked twice about Juju and
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  Speaker 5: Juda on coming out here bringing you know, getting the
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  Speaker 5: crowd all right, He didn't know a billy care.
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  Speaker 6: About the crowd talking about that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But but but it's accurate though.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we talk a lot about you know,
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  Speaker 5: what DeAndre Hopkins would have brought here, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: but I was saying, hey, that's gonna get somebody in
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  Speaker 5: training camp seats. But it looks like they got people
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  Speaker 5: in the training camp seats already. So that's just a
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  Speaker 5: you know, good sign is as far as people being
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  Speaker 5: interested in the team.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Joining us is Evan Lazarre and Tamara Brown down from
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  Speaker 1: up from downstairs, Evan Tamara Any opening thoughts for day three?
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  Speaker 1: TV TV Yeah, your MIC's on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's TV not the other TV TV one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I yeah, I think you might be off.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I'll go first. Then. I think the from from
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  Speaker 9: Bill a little bit, a little bit close to the
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  Speaker 9: vest on some of the things that he was asked
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  Speaker 9: about about about Judah on which I thought was interesting.
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  Speaker 9: And I know Paul said that some people have speculated
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  Speaker 9: that maybe it's contract related, And even though his contract
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  Speaker 9: isn't set to be up, he's woefully underpaid in the
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  Speaker 9: past rushing market just relative to his production. So I
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  Speaker 9: could see that being a small issue, something that could
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  Speaker 9: probably be solved by just kicking him a few extra
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  Speaker 9: million bucks. Like, it's not like something that few extra
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  Speaker 9: million I don't think it's something that they need to
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  Speaker 9: like rip up the contract and sign a whole new
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  Speaker 9: one over. But he's making around fourteen million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 9: Top pass rushers that are making Pro Bowls like he
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  Speaker 9: is are up closer to eighteen to twenty million dollars
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  Speaker 9: a year now with the market, so I can see
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  Speaker 9: that being a possibility for him.
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  Speaker 1: There's a similar holdout, well, I wouldn't say similar. There's
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  Speaker 1: an out and out holdout going on Kansas City with
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  Speaker 1: Chris Jones, right, who reportedly wants to be paid Aaron
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  Speaker 1: donald money. Right, And I'm not sure that he's worthy
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  Speaker 1: of that. What do you think?
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  Speaker 9: He's a really good place, I think a good player.
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  Speaker 6: If you think Aaron Donald isn't worthy of that money,
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  Speaker 6: then I would agree. Otherwise he's in that echelon in
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  Speaker 6: my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, i'd agree with you, Paul. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: just think he's an absolute game record. But it's you know, it's.
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  Speaker 4: A complicated thing. It's trying to keep all those those
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  Speaker 4: pieces in place.
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  Speaker 6: And I get it. I mean, I get the argument
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  Speaker 6: that teams would make like, well, just because one team
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  Speaker 6: gave out a foolish contract doesn't mean we.
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  Speaker 1: All have to follow suit.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we saw that with Deshaun Watson and Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and I think that you know, ultimately, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I think you can make an argument that the players
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  Speaker 6: are comparable. But at the same time, it might not
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  Speaker 6: be the best thing for both parties involved. So I
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  Speaker 6: heard Albert Breer talking about that a little bit as
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  Speaker 6: I was driving in this morning with Kansas City, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, the whole Mahomes thing. Mahomes has been sort
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  Speaker 6: of brady like and wanting a very good contract for himself,
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  Speaker 6: but one that also allowed some flexibility for the Chiefs
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  Speaker 6: to keep their nucleus together. And if they didn't end
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  Speaker 6: up coming to an agreement with Chris Jones, I wonder
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  Speaker 6: how that would impact a guy like Mahomes, who, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like we've seen Brady get upset in the past when
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  Speaker 6: that happens here.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the portion where we have to just
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  Speaker 1: keep an eye on. We have to turn our cameras inward.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, they're working on some special teams closest to us.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like kickoff return again. Linemen are together doing their drills,
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  Speaker 1: some hand drills. It looks like, uh, the Yates of Hell.
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  Speaker 1: You got your defensive lineman down there working with their
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  Speaker 1: some foot some footwork drills, keeping their pads low.
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  Speaker 5: And we're still I'm still working through some of these
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  Speaker 5: names here, but I do not see Toime Montgomery out
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  Speaker 5: here yet, so I have not seen him either hell,
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  Speaker 5: I can hear myself.
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  Speaker 1: There's tomorrow.
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  Speaker 10: There we go, Hi guys, right.
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, No, that's not Marcus Jones.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And it looks like they're gonna be kickoffs today when
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  Speaker 6: when we get to work on the special teams units,
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  Speaker 6: which makes sense. They did some punt and they did
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  Speaker 6: some kick return.
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  Speaker 7: Gotta work through the core.
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  Speaker 1: For Freddy Deuce's guy Douglas is back there for returns.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 4: I like, ho, aw, heays become my guy?
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  Speaker 7: He's you a guy.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how he became.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know either.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Evan, are you claiming him?
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  Speaker 9: You can well, Bart and I you know at the
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  Speaker 9: Shrine Bowl, you guys have pretty extensive guys.
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  Speaker 5: Let just give me Evan, Evan, you can have Marin
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  Speaker 5: Marion have Douglas are talking about?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, a lot in Vegas. And I didn't get a
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  Speaker 9: chance to ask Belichick this question, but I do wonder
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  Speaker 9: what the guy like Douglas, And I guess Antonio Maffi's
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  Speaker 9: in a similar category as well, like how much did
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  Speaker 9: working with the staff put them at a at a
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  Speaker 9: higher rate come this time of year? Back in January
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  Speaker 9: when they were with the Patriots. You know, the receiver
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  Speaker 9: is a difficult position to learn in this offense, and
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  Speaker 9: sometimes that can come along slowly. So I do wonder
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  Speaker 9: how much of a leg up to Mario Douglas had
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  Speaker 9: on let's say Kesehaan Booty or Malie Cunningham, because he
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  Speaker 9: spent a week in the abbreviated version of the Patriots
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  Speaker 9: offensive system. So I think that that's part of it
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  Speaker 9: of why he's he's been a little bit more involved
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  Speaker 9: in the other.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a question I'll throw out to the group.
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  Speaker 1: Who's your dark horse guy, new guy that you hope
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  Speaker 1: does well and catches on.
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  Speaker 10: Can can a new guy be rookie in year two?
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  Speaker 10: Or does that not count?
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  Speaker 1: As that doesn't cost.
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  Speaker 4: Put me down for Christian Gonzales.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think if he just continues the dark horse,
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  Speaker 5: I forgot the meaning of dark horse on that one.
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  Speaker 1: You know, somebody like Douglas would be perfect example, you
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  Speaker 1: know for yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Is Pierre strong count Nope?
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  Speaker 10: See that's I just asked that because I was going
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  Speaker 10: to say Kevin Harrison.
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  Speaker 4: Pierre said new guy, I would say Time Montgomery, but
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  Speaker 4: he's out.
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  Speaker 10: Now and he's not considered new either.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I would consider him new because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't play last year.
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  Speaker 10: You could almost say that about the rookies though they played.
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  Speaker 1: You could say it about some rookies but not You
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  Speaker 1: can say it about some rookies but not a first
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  Speaker 1: round draft.
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  Speaker 6: Basically, you're gonna the three offensive linemen and the two
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  Speaker 6: wide receivers.
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  Speaker 7: Those are your picks, right, But.
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  Speaker 9: The lineman and the fifth receiver on the team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say Map could be, but that's not
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  Speaker 1: a dark horse though, like it's not it's not like
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  Speaker 1: a sleeper.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would, I would count him.
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  Speaker 1: I would too, I would count him.
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  Speaker 9: I think that they he got so much buzz in
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  Speaker 9: the spring from me in particular, probably out of anybody.
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  Speaker 9: But he hasn't been as involved as he was in
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  Speaker 9: the spring quite yet in the first couple of days.
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  Speaker 9: And I wonder if that's that's a little bit of
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  Speaker 9: let's not let the old rookie ego get a little
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  Speaker 9: bit too inflated so early on. So well, I hope
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  Speaker 9: to see more from Marty mop Who once the pads
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  Speaker 9: come on, because that was really the only thing I
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  Speaker 9: needed to see. You could see the movement skills and
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  Speaker 9: all that in the spring. Let's see what he looks
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  Speaker 9: like now that they're in shells and they get into
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  Speaker 9: pass any.
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  Speaker 1: Chance if when you isn't ready, that at Jake Andrews
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  Speaker 1: at center and they push out David Andrews to guard
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  Speaker 1: right guard.
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  Speaker 7: I think they've got a chance that Jake Andrews playing guard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, playing guard.
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  Speaker 6: But we haven't seen him yet. It's it's been Bill Murray,
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  Speaker 6: uh so far. So yeah, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 6: they know, you know, with some degree of certainty that
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  Speaker 6: when you will be ready.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so they're not they're not overly concerned about it.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, also you gotta let the let the
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  Speaker 6: three rookies sort of acclimate and get in place and
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  Speaker 6: figure out from there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Can I throw a few names of you guys that
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  Speaker 4: I haven't seen?
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  Speaker 6: You can?
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  Speaker 7: Christian Barmore is where Fred gets a little.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, I have not seen exactly compelling ra Well Bentley.
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  Speaker 11: You know these are probably as I have not seen
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  Speaker 11: Bentley either, Bentley Barmore, those are you know, some signing
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  Speaker 11: games and.
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  Speaker 7: Do you have everybody else?
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  Speaker 4: Just I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, And they're they're doing it working on a their
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  Speaker 9: pass rush front, right now and it's Sarah Roberts over
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  Speaker 9: there and a quality on the right field. So oh,
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  Speaker 9: Bentley's over here on the right field.
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  Speaker 5: Oh we got him yt Yeah. Yeah, double fifty ones
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  Speaker 5: out there. That's always fun on defense.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't see ninety though, Oh I see. Oh nope,
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  Speaker 9: that's ninety two. Nope.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean in terms of guys who are established
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: that I really hope take the next step. Bar More
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: is in my list.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:25
  Speaker 10: I like that, Fred, And that starts with him being healthy, right,
• 15:28
  Speaker 10: So I think that if we can keep him healthy,
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: I think he can have a really great year this year.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Keep him healthy and more of a role on first
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: and second down hopefully, you know, not just the third
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: down guys.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: No, never mind, now, I just I think that's it's
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I think your question, though, gets to kind of the
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: heart of the matter, which is, you know, like I
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: said yesterday, I didn't really you know, I think that
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: there is a set group of maybe like forty five
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: to fifty guys who you might consider locks that fifty high.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: It might be closer to forty five, but.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: You know, you're waiting for God, like there are spots
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: to be had, Like there are guys you know, all
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: these young young receivers. I mean, Douglas's probably the favorite
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: right now, but you know, there's jobs to be had there.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: There's you know, Matt Sokle yesterday you had a pretty
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: good day. You know, like that third tight ends spot,
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: there's a spot for that. Maybe Matt Sokele is you know,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: a dark horse, not necessarily a newcomer, but I just
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: I think that there's definitely roles third tackle, you know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: even second tackle, really right tackle, you know, receiving back.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: There's just a lot of roles that don't seem settled
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: right now, and it's it's hard to predict who's gonna
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: you know, is it gonna be Pierre Strong that that
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: jumps up now that you know, maybe Tom Montgomery is
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: gonna be out for a little bit. That There's opportunities
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: all over the roster for guys to make plays, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: it's just it's hard to know who's going to be
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: the one. And every time we come out here for practice,
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: that's what I'm looking for. Where are these you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: who are the young guys that haven't done things before
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: that are gonna pop? I you know, I continue to
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: bang that drum that that's what this team needs.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we've got those two joint practices green
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Bay and Nashville, and those will be critical.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean, as Evan said, that's training camp.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, not those those whatever, it'll be well for practices.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: I mean that that that's going to be all about
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: the competition. Who can who can show up in those
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: in those practices and you know, make some noise and
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: obviously you know, two two interesting teams to go up against.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a big fan of Green Bay's defense
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: and you know, getting to see the Patriots offense practice
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: against those guys, you know, not to mention Tennessee's defense,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Simmons, I mean, they got some big boys on
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: those two teams and should provide plenty of challenge for
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: this new.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Usually with those you know, joints, the coaches have an
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: agreement where there's at least a session maybe towards the end,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: where it's here's the guys we want to see on
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: on my team and on your team, and they go together.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like the opportunity session. Yeah, and those
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: will be critical for these you know guys that we're
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: You know, you think you gotta be a little bit
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: careful with those conversations though, like, you know, we really
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: like this guy, but he's on our bubble, and then
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: you know, when cuts come, then like they really like him,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: they're going to try to keep him.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You know, listen, how many times have we been interested
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: in someone as a result of a joint practice? You know.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's just.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think that you like a guy because
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: you like him, not because someone else told you that
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: they liked him. You know, I don't like that's also.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: In those opportunities we see guys on other.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Bill has done that. I think Bill
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: has looked at some of the younger guys, the fringe
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: roster players, and he's sort of, you know, targeted some
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: of those now, you know, with varying degrees of success.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's but if Bill didn't like him, I
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: don't think he would necessarily take a guy because someone
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: else said something. Just a couple of interesting things here
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: walkthrough Wise, during this sort of slow ramp up period
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: before practice starts, you are seeing a little of Judean
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: with with the regular defense, which I'm not sure that
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I've seen that in the first couple of days, even
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: in the walkthrough and also Connor McDermott a little bit
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: at right tackle, back and forth with Riley. I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: it's been mostly Reef so far. It looks like McDermott
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: mixing in a little bit more frequently today.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: That's a good note far. You know, why would you
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: put you down out here at this point even if
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you knew he wasn't going to practice the rest of
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the day. So maybe we're going to see him more
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: involved today.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, I can't tell you with one hundred percent
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: certainty that he didn't take any of these reps with
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: the walkthroughs in the last two.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: Days, but I don't think he did.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I think by this time he was doing a lot
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: of running and whatnot, and then he would go to
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: the rehab field.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little bit of a different look at
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: the line to Paul with Reef at left tackle, Chasing
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Hines at right guard, and Connor mcturmott.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're mixing and matching over there a lot. It's
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: been it's been kind of.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Uh, but again, you know, you talk.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's look, the backups watching are Bill Murray,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Trent Brown and David Andrews. So you know, you just
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: those are the guys they're kind of looking at with
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: the top group again Douglas Pierre stronger over there too.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: So that group is has been consistent over two days.
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: So just a little note on Christian Barmore is, uh,
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: I don't know wife or had he had a baby, So.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Congratulations that is that is why not why?
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: I don't know one hundred percent, but I would assume
• 20:09
  Speaker 9: that's probably why.
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: Excuse yeah, yeah, for first child.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I would that's a good could get Evan So it
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: was starting to get worried about.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: That a little.
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he posted about it on his Instagram.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: There you go, of course you thank you, thank God.
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: I love that. Evan noticed that Evan doesn't even have
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: an Instagram.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: I do have an Instagram. I just don't post it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: Oh so you're.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: A secret secret Oh.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: I mean the players post so much on Instagram nowadays
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: and a half you've got at least monitor.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: You're not really doing your job if you're not paying attention.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Does just do that part?
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: Evan is a body your body account.
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: No, it says it's it's me. It says Evan was
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: ore on it. I just have never posted a picture
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: on it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Devin Laser, what's your secret name?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: My name?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Well, it seems like getting ready to bring the cameras back.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I hope here you get back.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: It's also Christian Barmore's birthday, so I think his baby
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: might have the same all that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's meant to be.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: So we're going to get into the Walmart period now
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: as to the walk through, his is over.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: So we should be turning the cameras back to the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: field momentarily.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: It's give me a chance to round out my my
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: attendance so we can make that all official.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I got Matt Sokel.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: I did not cross him off, as I believe I did.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: I'll take another peak. I did cross him off. I'll
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: take another peak and make sure that I was right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: I think.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I think that's it though with with Barmore, uh and
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: uh and Time Montgomery. Uh, well, it's an unfortunate I mean,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: and you know we were talking about before that. It's
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: just it's part for the course with Time ontomery. He
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: does a bunch of stuff. He looks great to practices,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: he gets banged up, you know, so hopefully this isn't
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: anything that'll that will keep him out along but you
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: talk about opportunities.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Now, this is you know, time Montgomery's out. You signed
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Jane Robinson, he didn't make it through.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: O t A's talk about Dalvin Cook maybe coming in,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: so you know, the next few days if they don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: sign Dalvin Cook, it's it's just such an opportunity for
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Peter Strong Kevin Harris to step up.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And you know, speaking of Alvin Cook, any more info
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on that?
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: Uh? Can I just I want to like sort of
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: finger wag the media. Oh, there we go.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: So I went back and because I hadn't seen the
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: tweet from Jeremy Fowler, okay with Jeremy follower road in
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: the tweet unless there was an update, and you guys
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: can correct me if you have more up to date information.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: But he said that Dalvin Cook is planning on meeting
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: with the Jets this week, and it's possible that the
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Patriots might look to meet with him as well.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: That sounds like his agent.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: That was interpreted by everybody down by the know it
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: All tents, which I'm a part of. I'm not excluding
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: myself from the know it All tent. As he's meeting
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: with the Jets and then the Patriots, that's not what
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Fowler said right, unless there was an update that I
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: didn't see.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: The way that I interpreted, And I'm sure this is
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: what you're getting at Paul, is that if it doesn't
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: work out with the Jets, then maybe he would add
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: the Patriots to the list.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: And maybe the Patriots would call right like they had
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: it yesterday, that the Patriots are going to be meeting
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: with Dalvin.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Jeff From that, you could say anything.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: It was like the Hopkins thing that like the plan
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: was Hopkins was going to go to Tennessee and then
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: New England, which that was definitive.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: That was the plan.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: I don't think based on the way Fowler wrote that
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: tweet that the plan is for Delvis Patriots.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Could so could the New York Mets. I don't know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: And I mean my head goes to Dalvin Cook's agent
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: doing that to let the Jets know that if you
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: don't lock this guy up in the building, guess where
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: he's going afterwards, you know, even if there's nothing there, I.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Mean, you know, I could see the Patriots floating out
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: interest there just to you know, make it a little
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: tougher on the Jets.
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, all of those things I think are in play.
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, his agent has been out there a lot, even
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: like on the record forward facing on TV talking about
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: Dalvin Cook's free agency. I think trying to drum up
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: a market for his client because it's just not there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: So I wouldn't be surprising at all if it was
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: posturing by his agent.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Also, I should note, as I want to do, holy
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Cross head coach Bob Chesney in attendance today along with special.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Teams coach Drew Canaan okay, front of the program.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, holy Cross always a participant in the annual Coaches
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Clinic hereage, let's stadi him.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they'll be Uh, You're gonna be taking on
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: the BC Eagles this year September at Alumni Stadium.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: So that's exciting. Get that rivalry.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Uh restarted one of the great rivalries of New England
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: college football that probably most.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: People have forgotten about it by this point.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Ailey, Zappy, Paul, don't.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Rain on my frise.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: I remember when they beat him in for.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: I.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: You know, when I when I.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Wrote I wrote a piece last year, I talked to
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: coach Chesney and uh, you know, he remembered when they
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: played with He was talking about the story with Flutie
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: when they played against Flute and Fluty have like a
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: helicopter come pick him.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: Up to take him to the high I do remember that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Sorry to bring up Flutie too. I know I'm hitting
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: playing all your hits here today.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Falls must be Friday fish Day here. Oh yeah, smells so.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: You never you never got eyes on socle no one,
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: no one, I'm gonna do.
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: So you did.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Okay, does he have that the shirt tucked a way up?
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: That was yeah, yeah, okay. The only guys that I
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: don't have a Montgomery and far More and then obviously
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: the three guys.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so yeah. I mean I think for socol
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: and I don't want to overstate this because it's obviously
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: one of those fringe guys that we're talking about, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: I think it would have been disappointing for him, because
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: I did think he flashed a little bit yesterday and
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: made a couple of plays. You know, he's working trying
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: to figure out if you know, uh, he's been around
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: the system now for a little while, trying to find
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: his way onto the roster, and then to have him
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: not out here today would have been disappointing for him.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: So I'm glad that we were able to spott him.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I mean it's the same thing with Montgomery.
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: You know, just.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Have a good day and then you get dinged and
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: gott to miss some time.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: There's all your big voys. Freddy on that on our
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: camera right now, getting ready to go down.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: To Yates of Yates of Hell.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: That I was falling asleep last night laughing about Yates
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: of Hell. It needs to be a T shirt something
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: with like you know, Affilly Yates with the offensive lineman
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: standing in backs.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Sell those to the offensive lineman.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: H Evan, I'm gonna bring I'm gonna put you on
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: the spot here. Uh yes, how do we How are
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: we feeling about Time Montgomery start to camp?
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: Look, I think it's tough because we hype up to
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: thyme Montgomery every time we see him in practice and all,
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: and we get all this pushback of what has he
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: done in the game in five years? And you're telling
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: me that I'm supposed to be excited about Time Montgomery.
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: And look, every time he's healthy and he practices and
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: we see him in a full practice like in camp
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: or in the spring, he pops he makes plays like
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: that's just what it is, that's what we're seeing. But
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: I think the thing that's unique with him, and we
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: were talking about this on Catch twenty two yesterday, is
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: that he's such a versatile, unique player that if it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: not him in that role, then who is it? Right, Like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: he plays receiver, he plays running back, he catch passes
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: it from different alignments. So it's a very time on
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: and are you really putting in like a time Montgomery
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: elements to your playbook and building things around his ability
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: to be versatile when he can't stay out there.
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: So I.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Blew that one. I meant to say Tekwon Thornton, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: thank you for your answer on Time Ontomy. I've been
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: talking about him so much. He's on my brain.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: But but Thornton, I mean we saw hasn't really done
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: much through two days. Tough spot for him in the
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: red zone. I mean he's not that really.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: The red zone.
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: I don't know. I'm a little bit like it's been
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: two days. I don't want to overreact to anything, but
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: I'm a little bit disappointed. I would say from what
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: we've seen from Taekwon last year in camp and and
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: then in actual games, he actually surprised me of how
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: good he was in the red zone. I mean, he
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: made some plays in the red zone early on in camp,
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: and then and then in the preseason game, and you
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: look at that game against Cleveland, he catches a touchdown
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: pass in the red zone. So I thought that he
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: was gonna do a little bit more than what he has,
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: and then yesterday he had a little bit of a
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: route running era or miscommunication that mac Jones was coaching
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: him up on. So I agree that between the twenties
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: is where he's gonna be his most effective. But I
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: think the little things that you notice with him, the
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: route running detail, the ability to process coverage and adjust routes,
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: that that's still I think a work in progress, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: it's tough to play in this offense at a high
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: level if you're not grasping the conversions and the optionality
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: of the routes. He looks great when he's running out
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: here in positional drills, but I think sometimes he's a
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: little bit in his head when it comes to the
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: actual team periods of practice. I definitely would like to
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: see a little bit more out of him, that's for sure.
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: Do you think his like growth was potentially stunted with
• 29:40
  Speaker 10: not having like a true offensive coordinator last year.
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: And kind of starting from h yeah, absolutely ground zero
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: this year. Yeah, absolutely, I think that that was a factor.
• 29:49
  Speaker 13: But at the same time, I look at this group
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: and Deuce, you were talking about this yesterday. Unless to
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: Mario Douglas is really a thing like, who else is
• 29:57
  Speaker 13: the burner.
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Out of this group? Who's the guy that get up
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: the field and test the defense vertically and stretch the
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: field horizontally. Maybe a little bit too with his speed.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: The rest of these guys, Parker, Juju Bourn, Kasiki, Henry,
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: they're all kind of the same type of runner. They're
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: not exactly burners. They're not guys that really test defenses
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: or safeties. And he's the one guy that brings that
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: skill set to the group.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: We started seeing something out of him last year, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: then he hurt his shoulder and he was never the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: same after that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I still think I mean, last
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: year's offense was just was tough on him. But some
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: of the stuff they had him doing, you know, I
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: think that's part of the excitement though. Well, Bill O'Brien
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: is you know, how how's he going to employ this speed?
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: You know, as an experienced offensive coordinator who you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: knows what he's doing.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: But I had such envy yesterday there was a clip
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: before Burrow got hurt of him connecting with Jamar Chase
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: down the sideline. Jamar Chase just burned his guy, and
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, yeah, that's what you'll look at.
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: I do wonder, I do wonder. Kind of what Bill
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: was talking about today with adding some of the things
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: that Juju has done other plays, is that he does
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: well into the offense here. If maybe they'll do they'll
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: do the same for Thornton and maybe some of the
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: things that he did really well at Baylor, will they
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: bring that in here for him to hopefully have success.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Did anybody see the jsm one handed catch? Look like
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Moss twenty ten.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: The end zone there?
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking yeah, yeah, or Zacklyn Smith's, but he
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: had nice I mean, you.
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: Know, that was another one of that was another one
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: of every Evans.
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: They had a clip of Baltimore put out a clip
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: of Odell and you see it's Odell and Zay Flowers
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: on the same side of the field and both of
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: them just like roach their guy And I'm just like
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: that could have been here, could have.
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: Been that could have been both of them.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, I got to admit too.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: I mean I don't want to overe you know, get
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: into too much over analysts, but there were there were
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: a couple of times yesterday which just felt like, guys,
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: weren't open, you know, like it's just Max kind of
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: sitting there and like nobody's getting really away. Hard to
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: get worried about that stuff just yet when when you're
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: in such type quarters. We'll see when they get in
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the middle of the field. But I just don't want
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: to spend another year feeling like it's just not dynamic enough.
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: To you know, to really You make a good point,
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Mike about the red zone with Thornton too, because I
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: think that's when we started to see him pop a
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: little bit last year. It was on some of the
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: balls down the field.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Once they moved out to.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: The middle of the field and had the whole you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: the whole field to operate, and you would hope that
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: there's a little bit more play making in for him.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: But I agree with you, guys, I think he's been
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: a little quiet so far, and I think he hasn't
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: really even been targeted.
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: That often time. Two practices so far and.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: See I should do I should keep stats, but I'm
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: wasting my time.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: To Deuce's point about yesterday, I had them down with
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: three what I would call coverage sacks when Mack was
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: playing quarterback. And that out of all the things that
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: none of the dysfunction that we saw last year about
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: guys not knowing the play calls or not knowing where
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: to line up or fall starting, we haven't seen any
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: of that, which is great news. But we saw a
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: ton of that last year where Mac would just hold
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: the ball, hold the ball, hold the ball, and then
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: it basically take a practice sack, which you'd never really
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: want to see. And yesterday that happened a couple of
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: times again. And maybe it is the red zone type
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: of element of it as well, but you definitely don't
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: want to see that anymore. You don't want to see
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: in practice that he's got kid doesn't even have a
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: check down to throw the ball to, Like you got
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: to get the ball out of your hands eventually.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: So we think, what is the you put on the shells? Now,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: what what does that?
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: What does that allow you to do a little bit
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: more contact the offensive line?
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: Light contact light light.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: I think that is exactly the way it's described. Light
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: contact permitted.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: But but it's it's kind of a good question, like
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: not in the street. What does shells really do? Like
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: this extra padding on your shoulder cushions, the blow a
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: little bit just to your shoulders.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: Well, so your your hand play, like your hand placement
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: is going to be at the chess plate. So now
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: that's that's covered a little bit.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Mean I'm listening. I think a lot of these things
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: are way over complicated that don't need to be right.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm sure there's a reason that they
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: wear the shells as often as they do.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: Because they wear them even during the season.
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So I went in into the overcomplicating point. I
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: went in and looked at the CBA before camp started
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: to try to to acclimate myself with the acclamation period
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: and how the rules actually worked. And I had to
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: consult with my legal team.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: So ridiculous even, isn't it.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: We were reading it again yesterday because you know, like
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: they have to schedule out for next week and the
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Patriots have announced the you know, the practice dates, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: it's six days in a row and I and I
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: kind of remembered five being the limit, but it's actually seven,
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: so they haven't.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: They haven't practiced six days.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: In a row.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: I don't think since the new CBA. So so we'll
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: see what ends up happening.
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: But can't you just get me an f a Q
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: like it, Just give me bullet points like this is,
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: this is what's allowed, this is what day one's this
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: day two? Instead it's this whole paragraph and like ten
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: font it's it's ridiculous, it's incredible.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: I'm not even sure it's ten more like Gaget type.
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: But I can understand, you know, to go on a
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: whole CBA ramp. But I can understand why there's sometimes
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: there's rule violations because it's it's incredibly confusing. It really
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: is just way over complicated in that doctum.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So so it is true that they can go seven
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: days in a row, I.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: Think they have to get a day off every seven
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: days or something like that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's the word is okay, And within those
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: seven days, how many of those can be padded?
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: You can only go three in a row. You can't
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: go more than three in a.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Row in pads. Okay, so you can three in a row,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But could you do.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: I think you could do three and then one off
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: and then three right.
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: Right, then two the three in a row for pads.
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: I know, I get confused about how many days in
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: total in a row, but three in a row and
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: pads is the But.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: That's sement, right, I remember that, right.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: But so within seven days you could have six days
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of pads.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you put the middle of days, if you
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: practice seven days ago, yeah, I suppose you could.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just out of curiosity, I'm looking at the running backs.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: Just see three running backs over there, Kevin Harris, Ramandro Stevenson,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: and JJ Taylor. But perhaps Pierre Strong is doing some
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: sort of special team's work. But it just kind of
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: illustrates how light that group is right now, is over here.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: With the specialists special team stuff.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Dalvin Cook, I mean, I like and again like they
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: need a body like it sure can be Dalvin Cook,
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: but it could be any any number of.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: The list goes on.
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: I wonder why you know they brought in Leonard Fournette
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: like back to back years.
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: But they haven't been able to well the first year,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I think Brady was like, what the hell are you doing?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Don't go there?
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: That was the report. But yeah, they they clearly have
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: a little.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: Interest in him, and I mean, I honestly, I'm expecting
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Sunday there's going to be another running back out here.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Based on the numbers, it would.
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: Be intriguing to bring him in, especially if Time Montgomery,
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: you know, is hurt long term. Again, being able to
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: have a letter Fourette come in, a guy who can
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: kind of do multiple things.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard because a lot I know, it's just
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just, you know, you almost feel like
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: you're bringing Leonard Fournette in, but it's like, well, we
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: kind of have Kevin Harris is a big guy, So
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's there's there's always I think going
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: to be some kind of redundancy and overlap on that position.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: But at this point they just need bodies. They got
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: four guys in camp and that's.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, normally enough in pre season i'd be out. I
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: agree with you, I'd be out on four Nette under
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: normal circumstances. But I just think they need somebody.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: He could catch the ball.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: I mean a lot of production as a receiver, but
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: he has no explosiveness at all.
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: I just wonder if needing a body, there's bodies to
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: be had at that position especially, But I I kind
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: of viewed it as with Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris,
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: Let's give them camp just to prove that they can
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: be a steady backup behind Rmandra Stevenson. And if we
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: get to September first and we don't really feel great
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: about where we're at now we signed Leonard Fournette, or
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: now maybe we if Dalvin Cook is still out there,
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: we get a little bit more aggressive with that. But
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: I think they want to give the two second year guys.
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: I love that training camp to to be able to
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: show what they can do.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Is there anything to this Dalvin Cook story about offering
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a woman a million dollars to drop a case.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: I think that's part of the equation too, which is
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: why I don't think there's really much chance that the
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: Patriots are bringing a guy with a domestic violence sort
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: of well so the accusation hanging over his head, that's
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: an old accusation, I know, but it gets worse if
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: that's true, because that that part of it is what
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Fred just said is right, been in the news a
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: lot in the last two weeks.
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: I just want I don't know, but it has the
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: league done an investigation and closed the door on it
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: yet or is that still No? That's the only thing
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: because I we did get a question I think in
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: the in the mail bag about no if he signed
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: somewhere and then and then he ends up getting suspended
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: for this thing. Maybe that's why the interest isn't as
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: high on him, because people know what a suspension is coming.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: You're going to be paying him to be suspended.
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: Well, you don't.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: If het suspended, there's no.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: A couple emails coming in. Kyle from Pembroke writes in
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: my dark horse newbie that I hope works out is
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: a mere speed and Johnny Lumpkin having young depth at
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: those positions would be great. How they looked a that's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: some dark one.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, well Lumpkin had a catch yesterday and I
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: mean I think Evin laid out. You know, just his
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: size makes him a factor, Yeah he does.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: He looks like a tackle, but it's you know, for that.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Third tight end blocking role, especially when you have no
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: tackle depth. I mean a lot of times you'd use
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: your third or four tackle is you know, an extra
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: tight end kind of thing, but you didn't even.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: Have those guys, So like I would rather have a
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: ferser or even socle as a third of you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: extra guy there and then just use right, you know
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: Connor McDermott as the extra tight end. Yeah, you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: as a blocker.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Jacket and Arbors, says dark Horse, And I'm hoping succeeds
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a city. So because he plays a position of need
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: offensive line and is supposed to be able to play
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: either guard or tackle, Patriots would really benefit if so
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: could play tackle at the NFL level.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's he's buried on the depth chart
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: right now. He you know, one guy that at least
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: threw two practices unpadded offensive linemen. Take it for what
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: it's worth, but you know, not one of the guys,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: at least initially that's in that's in the mix with
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: the upper upper guys, which I mean I can barely
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: say that about Mafi as well, I mean or or Andrews,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: but they have those guys. Those two have flirted a
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: little bit with with some I don't know, I don't
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: even know first level reps, but but second level reps.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Travis has a quick question, what's Snoop Dogg's favorite kind
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: of practice?
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: Joints?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Joint practice, that's the answer. Good, good, even top.
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: I was thinking it was going to be like dog
• 40:46
  Speaker 10: Days or something like that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: One I had nothing. I was pulling blank, I was
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: pulling black.
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: I didn't get it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Not surprisingly, you know, the old guy didn't get it.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: But Snoopy snooping in the nineties.
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: Stoop's great, he is good him and Martha Stewart or
• 41:12
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• 41:15
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to turn cameras inward in a couple
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of minutes per rules, not ours. Otherwise we'd keep them
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: out there, but we have to.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: We'd show you everything.
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: Have you seen some of the teams that I'm not
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: picking any scabs here, but some of the teams like
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: they film everything it just so that they can pump
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: it up on social media. Like you see like Joe
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: Burrow got hurt yesterday and every single reporter had like
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: video of like a team drill. I couldn't believe that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: How do you I texted Trags and I was like,
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: how do you allow you to just film like eleven
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: on a levee?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Well, the video I saw was some podcaster. It wasn't
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: like was it a you know that's what I'm saying,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: credential media person.
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Trags is credentialed down there now there, now, I
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: should say, and he had video of it two on
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: his You're just allowed to tape team drills in Cincinnati.
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: Most places, most places, honestly, you are. Like when I
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: was working at the Giants, there were like no rules, super.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Bowl Championship, nobody's stealing all their plays.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Cameras are off now just uh, in case anyone's wondering, Yeah,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: it was just but we will be here. You'll hear
• 42:25
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• 42:29
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  Speaker 4: Who I might today it's pretty toasty here.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think anyone wants to see that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: No, oh, that's why you can do it now because
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the cameras are off.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but you guys are still here.
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  Speaker 1: it through. Yeah, he'll patch it through. Bessy. It's tough
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  Speaker 1: battery saving, it keeps shutting off. It's it's a whole thing.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we're.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Close to some seven on seven stuff. The offense and
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: defense is still working separately.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of just route combinations in the Red Stone.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: I think we've seen a lot of that, a lot
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: of the defensive backs right in front of us, passing coverage,
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: you know, passing receivers to one another, and working on
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: their communication on some of those combo routes. But I
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: think so on seven will be along shortly as they
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: as they say, no one says that point.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: No one says shortly, no one. No one says seven
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: on seven will be along shortly momentary.
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: I do wonder if we get a little bit more
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: run game work now that the shells are on. And
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: I've been waiting to see, if Bill O'Brien's been hiding
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: it from me, what exactly their run game is going
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: to look like, and so I've been I've been waiting
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: to see what what schematically how they're gonna draw it up,
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: and maybe we'll get a little.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Bit of that time.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: That's why we can't video the entirety of the eleven
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: on eleven's it's because of Evan.
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: Right, that came out way way more pretentious.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: You you're hiding, you're hiding from me, Bill.
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: Hiding it from me.
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: He knows what he's doing.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: It is interesting, though, and I'm not trying to like
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: imply anything by this. I just find it interesting that
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: it seems like Bill O'Brien is in like his offensive
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: professorial mode, like not really a lot of talking with
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick. It's just kind of like Bill O'Brien is
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: doing his thing on an island.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: And I guess that's.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Probably how McDaniels was two but always is interesting how
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: to me, how he's just kind of cooking things up.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: So I think that when Max's what he's doing. Yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: when Max says, you know, it's been good, it's been normal,
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: I think that's what he's talking about. Yeah, it's like
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: back to the way it was when Josh McDaniels.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: Was doing it, you know.
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: Paul and I want to add on that to when
• 48:21
  Speaker 10: Juju yesterday said there's no gray areas in our room.
• 48:24
  Speaker 10: I kind of thought that was really interesting. He was like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: you know, if there's a problem, we discussed it, we
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: talk about it. We look at it, like I think
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: last year there were a ton of greats.
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, and I think one of them, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: like Kendrick Bourne, I think, was talking about when they're
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: going over things and you know that that Herald, that
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: great Herald expos a at the end of the season
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: that would say, well what happens if they do this,
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: and that you know, we'll get to that later. You know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: was was kind of the right the reason and Evan's
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: getting what he wants. Look at Evan, Yeah, he get
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: coups to the run game, little running.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Game actually, So that was an RP Prichard pryor offense
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: that that was an RP.
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: I know, it's a walk through. I know it's you know,
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: the defense isn't actually trying to do anything here. But
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: they had the bubble screen set up on the outside
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: and they ran it, you know, outside zone to the left,
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: and you can see how the linebackers are just in
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: such conflict like do I go to the screen or
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: do I play the run? And it has opened up
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: a huge hole for the first.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Time and this time they throw it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Is this the first time they've had the yardage markers
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: being used? Or did I just use it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 20: I don't know.
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: I think they had a little yet, Douce and I
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: don't know.
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: I think they had them out late yesterday for some
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: of the work they did, but I do not know
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: that for certain. And I would say McDermott again, by
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: the way, right tackle with.
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: The quote the quote unquote first group.
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: Bill Murray just holding strong though.
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: So over here on the left field they're working on
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: line games or stunt stunts. So that's that's when you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: it's we're getting closer to the real thing because the
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: pay will do this every single practice once the Pats
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: come on.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Judon doesn't seem like Chudon's working with the top group
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: just yet, but he's he's he's going in now, so
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: it seems like he's he's well.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: I think it's different personnel too. I think that was
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: interior stuff is a little bit more of.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: The right since they're doing all runt have you your
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: pass rusher doing the stunts good good?
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: So that was counter from under center so that they
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: pulled a guard on that one.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: So we got we got a pulled guard and that's
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: what you want, right, You like that better?
• 50:28
  Speaker 9: I think they do it better. I think that's what
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: their personnel does better. But we're talking to Remandre about
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: it last year. He doesn't. He prefers not to run
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: behind a full back because he just wants that freedom
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: to be able to pick the hole and and dance
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: around a little bit. So, I mean, maybe he likes
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: a little bit better. But I definitely think their line
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: is built for the power stuff.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: I saw something. They have the heaviest line in the NFL.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: But I'm sure Truck Brown and Michael and went are
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: skewing that.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: A little bit. Tip the scale as as you will.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: The crowd who's and ours?
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the fun stuff down here on defense
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: with the pass rush front, you know, third and long
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: go get the quarterback.
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and you see and.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Mac Wilson working his way, and he's he's been kind
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: of active. I'm curious if his role expands it all
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: or if he's just kind of.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: What it looks like. Peerce.
• 51:27
  Speaker 21: What do you think about his number change going to three, Well,
• 51:30
  Speaker 21: he was asked about it yesterday, Fred if you want
• 51:32
  Speaker 21: to know exactly why, Yeah, but I guess it was
• 51:35
  Speaker 21: his his his number going back aways Juju two switched
• 51:40
  Speaker 21: to seven.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: He had all kinds of reasons for seven.
• 51:43
  Speaker 10: Hey, don't say all kinds of reasons.
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: His reasons were cute, favorite number, his mom, his mom's
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: favorite number. They have seven kids, and it's like somebody
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: said seven super bowls.
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: But I was out of one quick.
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: He was good talking to him yesterday.
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought he was great.
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: He says all the right things. And you can think
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: one of the things that he said that was interesting.
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: It was about Mac and it's work ethic, you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: just pointing out that he's been around some good quarterbacks
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: and he thinks that Mac is right up there when
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: it comes to doing the things behind the scenes and
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: working out, arriving early, staying late, that whole cliche. So
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: they seem to be off to a decent start.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Listen, if you love football, this is the place for you.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: It's just I've heard yep, guys, work hard. Put the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: work in.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Work work, work, work work.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: If you want to cut it hard, no cutting corner.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: You want to work hard, this is the place to go.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: No cutting corners.
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: That's kind of like what what said yesterday?
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: What what what happened? I think there's like this feedback
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: in my was somebody else that's construction?
• 53:01
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• 53:02
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• 53:05
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• 53:07
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• 53:09
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• 53:12
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• 53:14
  Speaker 10: The tent up here, and show Paul, this is actually
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: my first day up here in this tent underneath the shade.
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: And I will comment on something you said yesterday. It
• 53:21
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• 53:24
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• 53:25
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• 53:29
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• 53:50
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• 53:52
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• 53:55
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• 53:57
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• 54:08
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• 54:13
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• 54:15
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• 54:21
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• 54:24
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• 54:27
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• 54:37
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• 54:40
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• 54:43
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• 54:59
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• 55:04
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• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Do you would giving out t shirts yesterday?
• 55:11
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• 55:13
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• 55:14
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• 55:28
  Speaker 10: Fred I will say. The common theme when we were
• 55:30
  Speaker 10: passing out these shirts is tell fred I said, high.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, he's superstar, superizarre.
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: Bizarre a good way to put it.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, doing some passing now short underneath stuff.
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this scenems that I don't want to say competitive,
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: but just the little pace picked has picked up a scene.
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: I think. On the opposite, I think it's slower than
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: it has been really.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: Am I I just feel like that these drills are
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: going on a little longer than maybe they were yesterday.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like it's been a little slower that
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: that part I agree with. I think these drills have
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: gone on longer.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: He's looking for the right words.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: I don't know, it's probably it's probably exactly the same,
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: and we just like try to find something different.
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: I do think it's interesting though, with Chasing Hines getting
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: a little bit of a look at right guard. I
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: mean he's a guy had done match his first couple
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: of years, and you know, Bill Murray getting the chance,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: but now getting a look at Chasing Hines.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: There at the right guard spot.
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: So isn't this year two for him, year two for
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: Chasing Hines?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was a rookie last year, right, Yeah, I forget, Yeah,
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: I know it's not I mean, it's.
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: Not like casting.
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: He didn't do anything last year, Paul. Let's put him
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: in like the ny just category where he's been around
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: three years and it's never played.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just did. Was he like hurt last year?
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I don't even remember seeing him.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: He was hurt during camp, Yeah, and then he I
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: think he worked his way onto the roster by the
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: end of the year.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. His name was Duncan. We could have our cake
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: and eat it too.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's why they all want to meet you.
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: The other thing that I find interesting about this the
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: Bill O'Brien processes. He he really backs off once once
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: he relays the play to Mac. Then he kind of
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: comes back and he radio is in the play call
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: like he would in the game, and he just sits there.
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: Right He's not in in the you know defense right
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: now with the first team offense against the second team defense,
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: the defense going off cards, but the offense isn't there.
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: He's relaying plays into mac Jones's ear and then backing off.
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: Now he's coaching somebody up right now on something. But
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: for the most part, for the most part, he's been
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: pretty He's kind of just lets them go and I
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: assume the corrections obviously come after practice in the film room.
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: But it's different, I think, than than what I've seen
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: in the past.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: I want to get excited about your boy, But every
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: time he has the ball in his hands, he looks
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: smaller than he did the previous time.
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: Okaye duce Vaughan at Dallas camp. He looks like a child.
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I like this, and I agree.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: I like us Von too, But I'm not sure I'm
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: ready to tell you he's gonna have a great career.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I think Troy Brown put another ten pounds of muscle
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: on man. Is he jack.
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: Now?
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Zappie's uh the backfield, he.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Kind of looks smaller every time I saw he does too.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is with uh the ones if you will,
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: but this is this, I mean, yeah, to your point, Paul,
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: it's it's one of those ones where I think they're
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: just completing them.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Ye, like yeah, it's it's really walked through mode right now.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: So what does that tell you? Maybe they're installing some
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: new stuff or at least stuff that O'Brien hasn't done
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: yet with him.
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: Maybe some new stuff because like I said, with the shells,
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: I we really haven't seen a ton of run game
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: even going back to the spring. I think they really
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: use this to the non contact stuff obviously to pass
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: the ball, so I think you're seeing a little bit
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: more of that kind of thing. And they're also using
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: some some different protections over here on the right field
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: as well, empty protections back in the blitz like things
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: like that.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: I did see some one v ones, although it looks
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: like the bags are getting ready for special teams.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: So yeah, is this gonna be like the in place
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: of the seven on sevens that I thought were im
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: in it because they did a lot of work and
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: you know in the walkthrough area with both offense and
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: defense down here in the red zone. Never went to
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: the seven on sevens. Though maybe you get a special
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: teams period and then they startside.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Now they're staying underneath. This is all underneath stuff.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah from Zape.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 9: I don't know if they necessarily care where the ball.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Actually, this is all situational. We need three four yards?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: What are we what are we doing underneath? All right?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: Moving on, lineman, running briskly to the Yates of Hell.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: Standing at the Yates of Hell.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: Remember I talk before practice. Yes, yeah, I think you might.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: I might need the righty today.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I got you, I got you.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: But you never know, Paul, things could change change a.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 12: Hurry, little ball security drill. We haven't heard shove that
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 12: right up, Fred, let's go.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: People will. I think it's some fans. Get to get
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: out of the way.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 9: It's my favorite part of practice right here.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, the open field angling drills.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: Touch the hip.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: I got you, I got them, no problem, no problem.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: So I don't know where the offensive linemen are going
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: right now, but in the Yates of Hell they're going
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: into like a trailer back there.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I did just some training areas there, and I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: wonder if you know heat with the big guys, maybe
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: getting a little extra hydration.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't know, I don't think I've
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 9: ever seen this, like they're all in there. They're all
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: in there because this like an igloo.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: Fred, do you have any information?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I wasn't.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: I was so down in that area in a mass
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: General Brigham trailer. Uh yeah, is there any is there
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: like an igloo?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: Is that what they call that?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 12: I know?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: Is that what they call that?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: Those you know, like cooling stations?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: Why do they get to go get cool and everyone
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: else got a run drills? Because line for you taught
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: me accommodations for the fat guys.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: I see that's new.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 9: I don't know if I've ever I don't.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: I don't ever recall.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: They're all just sitting in there smoking stogies or something
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: That would be hilarious.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: It's like Trent Brown was just like, oh bruh oh,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: it looks like Steve I think just punched his ticket
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: into the into the igloo.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 9: For lack of the I think there was some maybe
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: they're going over some some running game stuff and protect.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Watching the film, well, I mean usually there's oh no,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: there's poor there's a porty partties because I was saying
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that could be just a big bathroom.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: But trying to the smaller little bathroom. Baby that could
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: be Maybe it's a.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Fun like this.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: There's a training area back there. I don't know what.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: All the linemen couldn't have gone in that little one,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: did they?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Wellman just went in the way.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: I saw Stevenson going there.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: When he opened the door. I saw other players in there.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, maybe they're all in there. Wow, that's wet
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: feet in the purpose. Then it must be really cold
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: in there, because that's a lot of guys. Say he's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: opening up, so here comes it's cold in there?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: Is that that?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: That's Adrian Clem? Adrian Clem, And they're like really making
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 9: sure that door is sealed.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: Maybe it is.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: I think it's an igloo.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: It's so funny.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: And they're never coming out again. We'll see a week.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: Their beards are all david and comes out.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: Oh you guys are hot. No, I'm good, I'm good.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: We just want the igloo. Must think to be on
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: special teams times.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: I have all the pennies out for all the special teams.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go, so the.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: We're gonna do a little kickoff.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Here comes Trent Brown, Here comes.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: Here they come up stars stage and screen the Patriots,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: offensive line ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: It's like a clown thing.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: So we are talking to Riley Reef after practice, so
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 9: maybe we can get it out of him.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 16: What that that is?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were all in there.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: It's gotta be it's gotta it's gotta be.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: A cool of some sort.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: How do they fit them all in there?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: It's like, all right, it.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Must be long. The angle of it. It must be
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: bigger than we think it is. It could be longer,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I guess, because that's a lot of people in that.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: It's like fifteen or so.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: Offensive line.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: It looked like one of those clown cards.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: So now it looks like the receivers are going to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: it everybody. I think it's like it's rotating a little bit.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: The George juju.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: You're letting out all the cold.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Awright, we're trying to cool the neighborhood.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: Come on, what am I air conditioning the whole street?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: My air conditioning second street?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: Sorry, flashback to my childhood.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Bill keeps going in there and turning up the thermostat. Yeah,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: that that has to be a cooling station. All right,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Well that's an addition. That's a new thing.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: So we're doing some kickoff work here, and you're seeing
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: some of those young defensive backs that we've been talking about,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: the boldens, the speeds, those guys I think are candidates
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: for roles on special teams. See some of those guys
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: involved with the kickoff units. Jordan Hellig, Marty Mappo.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: H Is it Heli or Hellig? But either way, it's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: a guy that, if you're looking for, is on the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: radar those dark Horse fifty three man rosters that we
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: were talking.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: About, Deep dives, Super Special Team.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: DeMarcus Mitchell, a Brandon Schooler, you know.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the deep dive is is is Jordan Hilly guy
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: in that Apple Apple Action Stadia Go Undrafted State.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 9: Really a guy that kind of took everybody by surprise
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: that even was on an NFL team's radar. Quite frankly,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: he didn't.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 6: He didn't expect to be. No, I'm serious.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: I read, I read a little something.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I did a little some some and we have
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: Deuce's boy and ed Lee and it looks like JJ
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: Taylor returning some of the mic, some of the some
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: of these.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Kicks, no stopping.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Folks doing the kicking.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see where he gets it.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: So I've noticed bout a yard deep.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: kJ. I've noticed they've been doing something that the kick
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: returners when the ball is coming down, they crossed their
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: arms in an X. And that's got to be a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: signal for the for the blockers, letting known well whatever
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: the you know whatever, the return is set up, and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: it's like, I haven't Yeah, maybe that's it. It's a tribute.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: By the way, I can't find anything anymore.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: It's completely completely gone for me.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: But I wonder if you know, and Fred, you were
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: talking about this yesterday with the fair catch and how
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: people are gonna sort of respond to it. I wonder
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: if that is a wrinkle based on on a response
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: to to fair catches.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that I was thinking about the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: fair catch. I think it's all gonna come down to
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: who is your returner if this If it's a good returner,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna want to You're gonna want to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: kick it into the end zone because they're not going
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: to fair catch it. You know.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Douglas is small. What's his nickname?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Pop pop?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: What's his comparison to J. J.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: Taylor?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 9: Bigger? But he's so he's five. He was five eight
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: one seventy nine at the Combine, and the Patriots now
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 9: have him listed at five eight one ninety two, so
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: they claim that he's gatined thirteen pounds since the Combine,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: But he was one eighty at both the Combine and
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: the Shrine Bowls, so take that for one.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 7: Taylor might be shorter.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know how tall Taylor is, but Taylor's a lot.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Thicker than yeah, lower body.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they have receivers, got their UHA weightman doing
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: a little of the kicking too, and his seemed to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: go very high and angled, Yeah, to a corner right to.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: The end line, the goal line, I should say.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: Now, I wonder if there is, like we talked about
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: the igloo, if there's real physiological benefits to just when
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: you're working out and heat taking a quick you know,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: three minute, five minute, there has to be cold blast,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: you know that if that really does something.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: I don't know that that's what's in there, but I'm
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: just speculating.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way that it's not a smoke. It's
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: not a stogy lounge, I don't think.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, it has to be your condition. You wouldn't
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: put anybody on a day like this and a container
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: right right against But if it's the opposite.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: They're watching Oprah. Here we go, what have we got?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: Here's seventh, Here we go, okay, voon vivon. We're about
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: from the about the twenty now, so pushing.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: It back a little bit. That's good.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: When you went the slot as he's been all camped
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: from the eighteen empty Remandre out wide. Yes, yep, and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: there's a catch.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: A little bit of a push off maybe, but absolutely
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: I was nice, nice hands though by Henry, I'm giving
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: it to him.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you caught it. He definitely caught it. Got
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: to give it to him.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Back one for one. Stop it.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: I'm also using a little tempo here, going quickly now
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: from the fourteen another contest another.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: Thanks Jonathan Parker, Parker and Henry Yeah Parker, Henry.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: Gasiki, Henry Gasiki.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: Juju now going to do so that's eleven, twelve to eleven, right,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: and taekwon first, not Kendrick Born.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: Thornton in motion and we got Jonathan Jones and Gonzales
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: again with duggar.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 9: Yep. Okay, that's what they want to do with Juju.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: Get little shallow drags and just let him run with ye.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: So Max stepped up a couple of steps and got
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: that off. That was a good accurate pass. Short but hey,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that's ye hit him in stride.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: But you know again, it's like all right, it feels
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: like in rhythm, you know, it doesn't feel like broken
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: play or choppiness.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: That felt pretty good.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: I got Kendrick Born in there.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two tight ends again.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: So it looks like this is scripted because a little
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: nice the last two plays. O'Brien didn't go to the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: walkie talkie.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: Fifty PBu one eleven, so it.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Looks like mac knew what the plays were. Now he's
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: going to the walkie talkie.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: That's the that's the route for taekwond on that he
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: ran an under route. Whether it's an under or it's
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: a slant, He's got to establish a first level route
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: because otherwise these corners are just gonna you know, oh,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: he's just gonna try to run past me. If he
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 9: can't make them respect a slant or an under, it
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: makes it a bit more difficult for him to get
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: up the field. Good coverage again for Christian as well.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: Maybe should have been caught, but it was blanketed coverage. Oh, yeah,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: been very fortunate, but.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Hit him in the station.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: A nice couple of plays for Gonzo.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, two really solid plays.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: And worth knowning to you know yesterday, get some run
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: on the outside. Marcus Jones, now he is, he is
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: in the slot with the top group.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: So this feels like their best trio with Jack Jones situation.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: I would agree.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: I would agree, John, I think what you wanted to
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: see without Jack Jones.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 9: John Jones on the outside, Christian Gonzales on the other side,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 9: and then yeah, Eric Marcus Jones and right.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not that's not good.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Mac had to roll out a little bit and hit
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: h Parker in the back of the end zone.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 9: Minutes later, I'm running sack.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. There's no lineman's good,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: good coverage.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: I would say.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: It comes zips in that one, one, two, three, four, five,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: sixth place six plays from six place, eighteen yards.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: Two for five because I'm gonna wear that complation.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: All right, So as it good?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Oh he's got all that's got it good. Got to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: catch the ball son Yep, that was a good timed defense.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 9: Was that booty him? But after really really nice release
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: at the line of scrimmage by.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: Boot he got that was that was as open as
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: I've seen a guy in these drills. Yeah, I got
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: that nice rappy I think had I had the ball
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: to him quicker and you got to catch the ball well.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 9: So it's funny because contested catches just like that are
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: one of the knocks on Booty. He's not a guy
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 9: that's going to go and rise up above the defense
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 9: and make catches like that. So that's something that was
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 9: was a question mark on his draft profile.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 7: Who was the defender on that point?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Uh, fifty three maybe who's fifty three?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't know it was sixty three, sixty three, sixty
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: three who.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: Just also got beat by Trey Nixon. So tough couple
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: of reps for sixty three.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: So then the second so sixty three, Yeah, so you
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: know for what it's wor sixty three is with Miles
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: Bryant and the slot Jack Jones on the.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: Outside is the is the second corner group? Oh he's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Isaiah Boulden.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 9: Your boy just stops pop Douglas pop pop. Those are
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 9: those little quick routes that he can run. I think
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: he can be effective doing so far this off.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: At the second offense looks like it's fine sixty three.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: Well, he's uh the only rookie on the field right now,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: all veterans otherwise. Yeah, Chris Bord, he's a decent reps
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Definitely notable for Isaiah Golden here.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: JJ Taylor take the easy take the easy money.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know if the down markers are correct, but
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: it said it was only second down there, so I
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: would have taken a little underneath throw to JJ Taylor.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, miss circle up the scene.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: There that one.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: Man continue quick pace, Yeah, definitely quicker pace with the plays.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's what I mean, That's what I kind
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: of let's get.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 7: Definitely like they haven't huddled.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Oh that's all day long.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: That took too long.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: FoSER incomplete with Jayleen Mills that is still out there.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 9: It seems like Jalen Mills, that's that's the role they're
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 9: trying him out at is a cover tight ends in
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 9: man coverage and move them inside a little bit more.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 9: But specifically I think they they wanted to cover tight ends,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: probably because Kyle Duggar is going to have to be
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: free up to to do more Devin mccorty things than
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 9: what he's done. In the past.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I you know, just I mean, it's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: worth pointing out to It would appear Dugger and Pepper's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: are the top top duo if you were going to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: go with the two safeties.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: A nice catchups, a good grab. Ball, took a long
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: time to get there.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 9: That's Pop Douglas again.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Pop. Was he out of bounds?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Jack Jones pushed him out of bounce before he
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: got his second foot down.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: Good play by Jack Jones because it would.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 9: Never get one.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: It would have been a touchdown if he didn't do that.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: I think Jack Jones made a good play once the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: ball was in his hands. All right, MC's early time,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: but he gets open.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Open. Yeah, he does.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 9: A little bit more out of the two rookie receivers
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: last couple of days. I mean, that was a great
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 9: out by Booty. He didn't catch the ball, and it's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 9: just obviously a big thing. But those two guys are
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 9: coming a little coming along a little bit.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: I would say, Okay, see now there's a that's a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: good throw by Nick Soley and Nixon was not ready
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 6: for it went right through his hands. He looked up late.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: That was Fred Taylor played. You remember when Fred Taylor
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: was here.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: Fred, Yeah, he threw one out. Brady threw one out
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: to him in the flat and went right through his
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: hands without even touching him.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: Never saw her before.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: Oh boy, that one was in the air a long
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: time too, Freddie.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: We should do a coffee book. Coffee table book, Paul,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: greatest cup of coffee. Guys, guys who were here for
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: a cup of coffee. You know, guys like Fred Taylor
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: that contributed.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: No, they were just here so like Reggie Wayne.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Tory Holt, Tory Holts, John Lynch, Yep, he
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: said the book.
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  Speaker 5: forget about guys like you know, Malie Cunningham.
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  Speaker 6: noticed them much in the spring or now until today.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that released, right, there was like, Okay, there
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Douglas, he's still my guy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's your guy until further on, until you cut
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  Speaker 7: ties with him.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna rip him from my dead fingers.
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  Speaker 6: Oh oh a, yeah, you got to catch that.
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  Speaker 9: Cunningham.
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  Speaker 6: What the quarterback?
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  Speaker 7: You've got to catch that.
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  Speaker 6: So there was a little, uh, I wouldn't say a
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  Speaker 6: lot of blowback, but there was a little tweet beef
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  Speaker 6: actually going on with some people think it's a waste
• 1:18:42
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  Speaker 6: opportunity to have this explosive quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: They don't want to say, I mean, this hasn't been
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  Speaker 5: super intense, but they might go a little longer today.
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  Speaker 1: I think they might go a little longer today.
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  Speaker 6: But what a crowd man, Well it definitely started later. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Thirty people on the ramps. The whole side is full.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked a lot better Ton.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, JJ Taylor with the catch, Barth came into catch
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  Speaker 1: All right back here at jo Let's Stadium high above
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  Speaker 1: the practice fields for Patriots training Camp. It's day three
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  Speaker 1: Paul Parello, Mike Usso, Evan Lazarre to Mara Brown, and
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  Speaker 1: but still it's good. I'm glad that you're joining us.
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  Speaker 1: The crowd here at j Lett Stadium is packed. They've
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: overflowed it to the ramps. It's a sunny, hot day,
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  Speaker 1: just perfect training camp weather.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, good crowds, crowds all three days.
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious to see what it's like Sunday, beautiful day.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Why do you think
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: this year is noticeably bigger than last?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to I hate to say.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: Tamara asked me the same question, and I was like,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know what it is, but
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: it seems it's really it's kind of I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: and I've just I don't know what I'm misremembering. I'm
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: sure you guys have a much better memory of you know,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: what things were like, you know, the twenty years before.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: But just good energy, a lot of people, people seem interested,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: and that's just great.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: Is it the Bill O'Brien effect, that's what That's.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: What Samarra say, like, is it juju?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 12: Is it?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 9: What is it?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 10: Is?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: A judo?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: Like, I don't, I don't know, you know, but it's
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: it's great, Sime.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 9: I think it might be the Bill Obrian effect, honestly, Like,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 9: I think that they fans expect that the offense is
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 9: going to be at the very floor of it competent
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: and maybe even better if if mac Jones can can
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 9: hel elevate them to that. So there's a little bit
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 9: of optimism there that. All right, two seasons ago, when
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: he had a real offensive coordinator, they were a playoff team.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: All right, offensive defense back on the field. Now we
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: can see some little bit things that resemble actual plays here. Yeah,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: eleven guys on each side, so we.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: Gotta be you know, Jay Jones, Gonzo still not Jude
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: on with the top group here, but the but the three.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: Safety Mac Wilson's the other one.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: Uh no, no, they gotta Oh gosh, I keep screwing up.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three you're right, you're right.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I keep I keep confusing three.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 9: Three safety nickel.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: With Bentley and Mac and Dugger in the box.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 9: I think what's in sting though and three safety nickels?
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 9: So they only have two real corners out on the field,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 9: and there's Christian Gonzalez. It's not one of the guys
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 9: that have been around a little bit's John Jones and
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: Christian Gonzalez has just.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: Been a fixture.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: Mac Sokle getting a rep there with the top offense too,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: and Bill Murray back in right tackle that it looks
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: like Conor mcdermom getting a full audition today there at
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: the right tackle spot.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: That's a takeaway today for me.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 9: Agreed. Judon's in there.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, there is looks like together their past rush front.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Now there's a hotly contested ball in the on the
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: sideline between Parker and was that Jonathan Jones? Yes, Jones,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: good coverage there could coverage.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 9: Mac wanted the flag, but I think that was just
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 9: good coverage.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: I think so too.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: Mac wants to reset the play clock.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: There's a company yeah, oh.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: See, I don't know.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Back to the three safety Nickel.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 9: Josh Blood see in there now?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Too long?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: Too long?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: I mean he found a wide open Stevenson, but that
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: took too long.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna sack that one coming on.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: Agree, it's like serious question though, people who keep stats,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: is that is that a one for one and then
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: I guess for one.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately, because we can't have context.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Every like twelve.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 9: Seconds into the downt Christian Gonzalez had good coverage on
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 9: Taekwan again. On that Taekwon beat him a little bit
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 9: at the line, but he was able to recover underneath
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 9: the route.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: At about the seven yard line.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: The Taekwon no mac mac double palms up.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: Not sure.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but again a misconnection there with with Thornton, not
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: even really he.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: Got tangled up a little coming out of his break
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: and the timing wasn't right. But yeah, I agree with
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: the way you guys talked about Thornton.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: At the beginning of practice and just been quiet. I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: haven't really seen much.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that would have been a flag on
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 9: John Jones. It could have been whenever you see the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 9: hands extending and you get a little grab there that
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 9: that usually gets.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Called duggle blitz.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 7: Now that one's a whole.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: It was a lot of a lot of holding both ways.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: I thought both guys had their hands on the other. Again,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: it's Jones and Parker has this giving you a little PTSD.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: Paul, you just you hit the nail right on the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: head as the brain goes it goes right through my brain.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: It's like here we go again.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: So just so people understand what I was. It's been
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: about three, three or four today. Two of the last
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: four plays just kind of throw it up in the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: back corner of the end zone on a fade to Parker.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: See what happens, and nothing's happened. Tightly covered on both
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: by by Joe.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: It's not he's not even getting up now, you know,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: it's not even like he's able to get up there
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: to try to high point.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 6: Now you can make an argument there would have been
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: a flag on both of those plays, but I mean,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: I just don't see any separation.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 9: It's a prayer.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that last one. I might have
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: just kept the flag in my pocket.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: Well that's what I'm saying, you might have. I wouldn't
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: have called the flag on on either play. I thought
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: I thought Jones had good coverage on both.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 9: I just think that they they brought pressure on that
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 9: last one to Parker, and I just want to see
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 9: Mac have like an underneath answer to pressure. I don't
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 9: want him to be throwing off his back foot a
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 9: jump ball to DeVante Parker. Just hope in a prayer
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 9: that he makes the play stand in there, get to
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 9: the hot route, make a throw. I mean, I have
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 9: to think that those are aren't built into the offense.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Well and here you know, it's practice, so let's see
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: what they you know, I don't mind him trying it.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: Empty set here for Bailey Zappy in his first dress.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Another six reps there on the eleven on elevens for
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: the ones.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 9: Not a very good run.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mac doesn't look too happy either.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 9: I had one real completion to the on the check
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 9: down on the very first play yep.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: Same.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: Now look out folks who it looks like Nick Folk
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: trying to take lives over there in the VIP tank.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: Over the ball.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: Now, I agree with you that it wasn't a good set.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: I just I don't see a lot of separation. Yeah,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: like the last set that we had down here, the
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: seven on seven, So I thought there were some guys
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: that created some space and sometimes sometimes the ball wasn't
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: there on time.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: I didn't see that on this set.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: This with the full eleven on eleven's.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: Happy about pas side arm there's your guy, Yeah, it's
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 9: my guy on Myles Bryant pop pop goes the weasel
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: is popping.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: But see there's one you know that's kind of similar
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: to Juju play probably since maybe the same route, just
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: you know, except he's fast, right and that you see it,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: you see it, I mean it jumps out at you, right.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: It's just it doesn't really exist on the field other
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: than him right now.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, with him, I think the biggest question is once
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: they can be more physical with him in coverage and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 9: get off the line, can he can he get off
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 9: pump and run down the field. I'm not as concerned
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 9: about durability, like you know whatever, but in terms of
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 9: just actually getting off the coverages.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: Right, I mean, he shouldn't be a high snap volume guy.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: He should be the you know, the Dan you know
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: that Danny Amandola doesn't have to be the Julian Edelman.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: He's got to be, you know that that second, that
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: fourth fifth receiver that's gonna step in.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: And then Zappy bought time there and found Socle. If
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: it was a better pass, Socle would have it would
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. But the pass was off and
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: it took Socle off his feet and out of bounce.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Douglas in.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 6: Motion that meeting was clapping you here in the background
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: and Scott Zolac from ninety five the sports up just
• 1:32:29
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• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: They're really trying that corner.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this one's Booty on Golden.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 9: I just don't think that's Booty's game. Back shoulder fade
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 9: to try to contest and catch it. I just don't
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 9: really think that that's what he's gonna be good at.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I really want to see him running, you know,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: middle of the field.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: I want to see him on like a cross or
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: catch the ball, see if he's got any kind of He's.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 9: Really really similar to Juju in that respect, like very
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 9: thicker guy, but plays more inside, can run with the football,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: and that's kind of his his skill set. Not these
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 9: jump balls on the outside.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm getting some PTSD with all these jump balls
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: here way out of bounds.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: So I'm gonna give you a We talked about the
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: shells maybe what they can do. I might regret this
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: comment because things can change, but I think the protection
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: has been better because I think the lineman can actually
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: do something to keep the guys out of the backfield.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of just running into the
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: backfield on the part of the front seven in shorts
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: that you can't really do a whole lot about I
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: think that they the quarterbacks have had pockets to move
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: around in, even though some of them haven't been. The
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: ball hasn't come out right away. There hasn't really been
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: a lot of pressure inm and in either of some
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: of them. Quarterbacks have been able to move around. Now
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 6: on this play, they'll be a jail break.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 9: This might be run.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: It was to end the last one right on one
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 6: of the last plays. Anyway, There you go, there it is, Yeah.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 9: Tuddy, let's see if they go again with Mac though.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: I hope so. I need to see more. I don't know.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: We want, we want trace, we want Marty McSorley.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 9: This is where I check out.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: You don't.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: You don't chart the third team reps even.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 9: I don't even chart Zappy.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: Yikes, rude.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest. I don't chart any of them.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 9: All right, all write down like little little notes about
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 9: Zappy's reps, But I'm not.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: It's a trace to the bottom.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: Don't get anybody hurt today without a trace. Is that
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: a Tamar show? You watched that one?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 7: It's a Paul show.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: I didn't want to offend.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: I know it's not in the law Law and Order family.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: But see, that's kind of what I was talking about,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: like he had time there to move around.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 10: I did actually start episode one of Lincoln Lawyer because.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 9: Somebody was talking about it.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 7: Layer is excellent.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 9: I love Lincoln Lawren's good show.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 10: So I'm excited to actually what that platform is?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 9: That one on Netflix?
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 6: If you went away, I got I got a chance
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: to see all five.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 9: Oh you were away, We'll talk to like solid and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 9: my girl is.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 7: In mid season form too.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: Which one's your girl?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 7: The second Wife?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 10: Oh, oh, I know what you're talking about, only because
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 10: I've seen one episode.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: But well, the first wife is ned Campbell.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, I love Kimble.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: She still lights.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 7: That's a little grab.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah that Sean Wade Wade.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 9: It isn't the fifth cornerback spot is It's I think
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 9: it right now. I mean it's three days in, but
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 9: right now it's kind of just Miles Bryant by default.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 9: I don't think anybody has really been any of the
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 9: Rookie or Sean Waite or any of those guys have
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 9: really done anything.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: Even the other the lesser known guys, the Hawkins, the Randalls.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Mosley's those guys. Are all out here now.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I think we're getting to the part where we need
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: to start doubling up on Max reps.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 9: But that's what I want to see from Max, you know,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 9: like Anthony Jennings comes off the edge unblocked, and instead
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 9: of just trying to throw a jumpall to DeVante, Parker
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 9: just dump it off to the running back and live
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 9: to see another play.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 7: Did he?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: It might have been zappy, but I thought there was
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: a little quick angle route by the back, either yesterday
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: or the day before, kind of like that on a blitz.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: I think it was a Pepper's blitz.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah, mandre Yeah, I think that was Mac. But I
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 9: want to see more. But I get it too because
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 9: the deuce is right like last year that was the bailout,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 9: was like, oh, here comes the house. I'm just gonna
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 9: chuck it.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, chuck it to DeVante.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: That's off side on Anthony Jennings.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 9: That's a good thrill, man.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: It's another one through. That's twice nixtrain.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: It didn't seem to be ready for the ball.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, I mean he wrong shouldered it, but I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 9: think he did that on purpose.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 7: I think so too. I agree. I think he's been
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 7: better today.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 9: Yes, I don't want to.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: Don't don't say that to Barth.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: You don't want anybody. I don't want him waiting for
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: me in the parking lot and lock.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: All right, I think Max huddling up again.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: So let's go.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 9: Let's seeg.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: Come on, they're moving out? Are they moving now? They're stand?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: That's one moving out, moving moved out. So you're saying
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 7: she moved out.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 9: This is this is the high red zone high though, correct?
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: So three safeties, yeah, three safeties, three safety Nickel, Wilson, empty, interesting,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: a little more Wilson and Bentley and then now we
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: got we got Adrian Phillips kind of in the box.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: Oh man, I'll take that. Yeah, little hitch to the
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: eighteen and get you down or about the ten, I'll
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: take it. Second and two clock running. Oh sorry, looks
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: like looks like we got third.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 9: Just seems like when he's in rhythm, the ball's coming
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 9: out on time, it's where it needs to go. It's
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 9: when that play gets extended and he's and he's holding
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 9: the ball that you start to get a little bit concerned.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, it's a little pass frush front now
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: here with Ouch and Judon off the edges of qualitae
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: and wise inside.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: Wilson dropping out back too long. Nobody open, scramble, Jesus,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: don't hurt him, all.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 9: Right, nobody open. It's good to see Judaan ramp up
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 9: the participation. Yeah, I don't. Maybe this was all a
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 9: hullabaloo all about nothing. I think in terms of the contract,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 9: like an upper body of upper body sorenic.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: All right, it comes taekwon. We are We are back
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: to more of a bass nickel front with three safeties.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: So his Gonzales always been lining up on the right.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: Today he's been over there a lot.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: He's a little bit on the left and OTAs, but.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 9: That's right, that's the offense left or the defense is right.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, on his right.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah no, I remember him on the defensive left, a
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: little bit of O tas, but it seems like he's
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: been primarily definitely today he's been on the right side
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: pretty much all the time. They swap out Bledsoe for
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: Marcus Jones, so we go to more of a two safety,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: three corner nickel.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 12: Look.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 9: I like this breakdown, dudes, welcome.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: This was I mean, this was kind of what they
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: did last year, going in between three safeties and three corners.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 9: You know that one sack.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 6: That one was a saw.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 9: Bentley and Dietrich Wise really collapsed that side.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 22: I think he got who is that is that russy
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 22: ROOSTI Mafy getting sixty five looked like it was go.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: Now we got fifty to fifty five Mafy right guard.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 9: It looked like it was a little twist that Dietrich
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 9: Wise loop inside. Bentley came off the edge.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: Now he got right through McDermott and Mafy on that one.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 6: And I agree with Ev that was a sack even
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: though he threw it before they It was one of
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: those ah.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: Don't Yeah, it's Gonzo's in the slot. That was late.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: That was open.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: Nice, nice little recovery there by Marcus.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 9: That balls out quicker. I think that's a touchdown.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: The number rep number five here.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: Still still not great, No, no, there's just not much
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: doing right now.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: Uh all right, so.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we got free safeties again. A twelve person
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: playing man corner of the end zones.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: Bloedsoe breaks up a pass intended for get Sicky.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: This is a.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind kind of ugly right now.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 10: Do you think this is very underwhelming simply because they're
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 10: still installing.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: I mean to a degree.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: I think I think, you know, look it's day three,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: no question, nobody's going to be clicking on all cylinders.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: But you know, you just you want to see some
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 5: moments pop up throughout practice. Doesn't have to be four
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: or five in a row, but you know, every set
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: of reps that they get, you want to see at
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: least twice that they execute a play in time, in
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: rhythm and you know, get the ball out.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen a pass over you know,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen yards completed or anything.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they've thrown some from like the twenty
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: into the end zone. But yeah, that's about it.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: This is going to be good.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 10: I do think it's difficult too, when you're playing against
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 10: a defense that has just so much chemistry, Like I
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 10: got a lot of guys have been playing together.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: For a while.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah they've I mean, and it doesn't seem like Steve
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: Belichick's going crazy with spinning the dial right now.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: But but they got they got some guys who can
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: who've been playing for a while. Watch out oh sixty.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 10: I mean, outside of Christian Gonzalez, it's like everyone has
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 10: been playing together at this point, you should know what
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 10: the person next to you is thinking.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, It's what's always interesting to me too, is like,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: you know, I know Bill's been asked about you always
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: start from the bottom, you know, where you've got a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: group that's been playing together before, and he's like, oh,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: it's always good to go back, and you know, and
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: I understand that to an extent, but you also imagine
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: that as like Steve are like, yeah, chomping at the
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: bit to unleash all the different things that they know
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: that they can do, and we'll do once once the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: regular season comes in. I mean we talked about it
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: in no tas of like where's the dividing line between Look,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 5: you can't be sending all these exotic blitzes, like we
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: need to get like a regular.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: Look so we know what we're doing. Yeah, I was
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: close to train Nixon. Yeah.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 9: I just think for me too, many of the throws
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 9: that they are trying to complete down the field, not
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 9: talking about the little outs and underneath stuff. It's all
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 9: of it's so low percentage. Yeah, I mean, even that
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 9: last one to get sick.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: It in and have a chance, and we have to
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: remember they're going against one of the best defenses in
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: the league. That's right.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 10: It's Paul laughing for me.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 9: Gotta score at some point.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: Well, you just let me.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: You'd love to see a receiver dust a cornerback off
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: the line and you know, a strike and boom he
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: walks into the end zone and you know that's bang, bang,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: it's it's you can't stop that.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: It's very stingy out here right now, the weather or
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: the defense.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 9: I want to give the defense all the credit in
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 9: the world. But in training camp you're supposed to have
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 9: some days where he said the offense won today, Like
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 9: the offense took it to the defense a little bit today.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 7: We're going on two years.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 9: That's exactly my point.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: He's not exactly my point.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's just like at this time last
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: year we had we were well into it. We were
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: into like, is this some concerning things that we're seeing?
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, Fred, you like to say it,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: We got to say what we're seeing. It's some things
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: that are concerned.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that we can't yet say, Wow,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: this offense is light years ahead of last year. We
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: can't say that yet, but.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 9: I think and you guys, can you know, disagree, but
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 9: I feel it's not about It's not about the structure
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 9: of the offense. It's not about that they don't know
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 9: the play is or they're jumping off side.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: Mean, I agree, nobody's getting open.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 7: I totally agree, but I also know who's calling the plays.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: Like if we had a new offensive coordinator it was
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: someone that I wasn't familiar, would I be looking at
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: it the same way?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 7: Or am I just giving Billy Oh the benefit?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 9: That's fair? I just last year because I agree with
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 9: your organizational dysfunction, like they weren't organized, they weren't coordinated.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 9: Well this year, I think that they know what they're
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 9: trying to accomplish it right.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: Right, you know, you gotta execute zap zap back back.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 9: Oh geez Kean white In.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: There was another one of those team meetings, but threw
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: into the middle of traffic.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: You don't know who's coming down with it.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: Both quarterbacks really look and I know I was tongue
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: in cheek, mixedwolee.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Probably the best.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 6: It's been the best of the three, I know, I
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: know that, But it's still the balls coming out more,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: you know, quicker and more accurately. But listen, I'm not
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 6: telling you, let's this is last year.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 22: It's not.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 6: It's the third day. But I kind of agree with
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: the way Evan put it, Like you like to see
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: some days with is a series of that the offense wins,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: and we haven't seen a lot of that.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: No, and yesterday, I mean there were still a couple
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: of plays that they made that were all right. We
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: can at least look at those a little bit today. Touchdown,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: you know, the couple of plays here and there.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Cool, we'll get tipped.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that one got deflected at the line which almost
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 6: caught the disaster.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: You're off the Msuley train, now, aren't you.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Just just to be clear, I'm not on the.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 9: Yes you are.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 6: But but that was that was the comment that Zoe
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 6: felt so breathlessly. What was tell is it really bad
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 6: that mcsory looks the past?
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 5: So oh so an NFL quarterback is confirmili He wrote it,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: and he wrote it on my notebook. He didn't sign it, though,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: that would be nice, Scott Zolac, you know, autographed for
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: the kids.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 9: I think that this goes back to grow the other
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 9: day talking about what a number one receiver is, and
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 9: when he said that it's a guy that can get
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 9: open on their own. This is the time of training
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 9: camp where you're not game planning, You're not you're not
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 9: throwing the kitchen sink at the defense. Scheme wise, are
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: just running plays and they just haven't really had anybody
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 9: with that first string unit that has gotten open on
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 9: their own, that just has ran a route, beat their
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 9: guy and gotten some separation. And that's a concern that
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 9: we had coming into camp. I think this is what
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 9: we've been talking about all off season. So first couple
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 9: of days, I think that's kind of what we've seen,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 9: and it's all on Bill O'Brien now to then go
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 9: out and and devise game plans and to devise schemes
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 9: to kind to help these guys get open if that's
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 9: going to be the case.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 6: I think it's really nice of the defensive coaches to
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: sub out Ronnie Perkins for key On wife.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: Not confused.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this this set of plays has not been helmet
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: any any different than the ones we just saw from
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 6: Mack and ZAPPI.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I think the defense has to feel pumped up right now,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: remardless of how much credit you really want to give them.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: They're winning.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel pumped up about Christian. I mean
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: and and again.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: I think the disclaimer with him without pads on is
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  Speaker 5: a huge one. His athleticism is just gonna easily make
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  Speaker 5: him stand out in these situations. But he's just right
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  Speaker 5: in there. He looks comfortable and you know, you can
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  Speaker 5: we can talk about how bad the offense is. But
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  Speaker 5: I think you're right Fred, there there, there is a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of credit has.
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  Speaker 12: To go to the d.
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  Speaker 1: He can run. Yeah, he's fast, that's what.
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  Speaker 6: That's what he did in college. He's more of a
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  Speaker 6: playmaker than a quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Well, this is the exciting time of the practice when
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  Speaker 5: we now Now, so we got folk the first day,
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  Speaker 5: we got Ryland yesterday, are they going to get perhaps
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  Speaker 5: a back and forth or.
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  Speaker 4: Something like that?
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  Speaker 6: Fred, did you ever tell Mike and Evan your your
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  Speaker 6: theory and tamara about how to choose between kickers when
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  Speaker 6: you create the pressure? I guess he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 6: go there. I don't blame him for not wanting to
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  Speaker 6: repeat that one on air. I'll tell you guys off
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  Speaker 6: here how to create pressure, How to create pressure on
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  Speaker 6: the on the kickers?
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  Speaker 7: You threaten them?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, there's threat. Threats are involved. Threaten their family,
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  Speaker 6: physical harm to their families.
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  Speaker 1: Make this kick.
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  Speaker 6: That was back into Steve Yuskowski rookie year when Martine
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  Speaker 6: Gramatica was here.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, well it's soccer.
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  Speaker 1: You'll never see your wife again. Oh.
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  Speaker 7: I guess he's just gonna say it anyway. She's hold
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 7: them at knife points.
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  Speaker 6: I think was the rest of you.
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  Speaker 4: Hold her hostage in the igloo back there.
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  Speaker 1: Were open again. We're just throwing away money.
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  Speaker 5: I was laughing because the second group is like snapping
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: from like midfield, and for a second there I was like, man,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: they're really making a tough on Ryland to attempt like
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 5: a seven year So what is this so focus going
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  Speaker 5: down there?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Thirty three?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, kick is good?
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  Speaker 7: Is that the first one?
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  Speaker 1: Yep?
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  Speaker 7: And it's a banger?
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  Speaker 1: Nick folk everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Now we're at the with the right hash. Same thing
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  Speaker 4: about thirty three.
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  Speaker 6: This one is short of the thirty.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah thirty three.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, is that it?
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  Speaker 7: It looked good to me.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 7: It's it's funny how hard it is to tell.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. You try to see if it crosses
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: in front of that upright or behind. It's tough, So
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  Speaker 1: we're moving it back definitely moving right to left.
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  Speaker 5: It's about maybe about thirty thirty eight, Yeah, thirty eight
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  Speaker 5: from the left hash for Nick Folk.
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  Speaker 9: This is another part of the practice I check out in.
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  Speaker 1: That was definitely good.
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  Speaker 4: Thirty eight.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well listen, is it that time? I think
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  Speaker 1: it's time for you guys to get down there and
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: get ready for player availability. So I want to thank
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• 1:51:08
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• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: back at it live on Monday, same bat time, but we.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 7: Will be here Sunday as normal.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you'll be here, get all your information on pages
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• 1:51:23
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