Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #91: Why are so many people gravitating to socialism/Marxism/communism? Is it because so many don't own anything anymore? Also, indications are the Milwaukee Lightning & Thunder movie, Song Sung Blue, may be very good. And, if you want to get all A's in college, just go to Harvard.
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- 0:20Speaker 2: One of the things that I talk about a lot
- 0:23Speaker 2: is how when we do things, we never think about
- 0:27Speaker 2: the long term ramifications of them, and when we get
- 0:32Speaker 2: to a certain point, there's never enough introspection of why
- 0:37Speaker 2: we got there. This all serves the left well, because,
- 0:40Speaker 2: as I point out, the left has always proven wrong
- 0:42Speaker 2: about things, but when they are proven wrong, they never
- 0:45Speaker 2: admit it. They just move on to the next thing
- 0:47Speaker 2: and go on and be wrong about that. One of
- 0:53Speaker 2: the things that we're in the process of being wrong
- 0:56Speaker 2: about is the move towards socialism and Marxism here in
- 0:59Speaker 2: the United States. This is an argument that obviously had
- 1:05Speaker 2: been won in America. Socialism became very popular in the
- 1:10Speaker 2: forties and the fifties, and the anti communist movement knocked
- 1:14Speaker 2: it down. It hit its nator its bottom point late
- 1:19Speaker 2: eighties early nineties, when the Soviet Union fell, the Eastern
- 1:23Speaker 2: Bloc fell, and virtually all Americans left, and rights celebrated
- 1:28Speaker 2: the return of freedom and the return of capitalism and
- 1:31Speaker 2: the proof once and for all that socialism and Marxism
- 1:34Speaker 2: is a disaster. Well it's back now. The Democratic Party
- 1:41Speaker 2: is becoming a Marxist party, Mamdani and AOC. That is
- 1:47Speaker 2: what the Democratic Party is. The remainder of the Democrats
- 1:51Speaker 2: showed no sign at all of resisting or trying to
- 1:54Speaker 2: knock down this oppressive, noxious part of their party. But
- 2:01Speaker 2: the bigger question, and the one that I want to
- 2:02Speaker 2: explore today on the podcast, is this. Why is it
- 2:07Speaker 2: back now? Part of the why is simple, you have
- 2:13Speaker 2: people in their twenties, thirties and early forties who've never
- 2:18Speaker 2: been told the truth about this because they were educated
- 2:21Speaker 2: by leftist teachers who never gave up on socialism and Marxism.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I get that part of it, but it doesn't answer
- 2:30Speaker 2: the second part. Okay, fine, they're people that were telling
- 2:33Speaker 2: this is the way to go. They're lefty educators that
- 2:35Speaker 2: tell you all sorts of idiotic things, but they don't
- 2:37Speaker 2: take hold. Why suddenly is this taking hold when it
- 2:40Speaker 2: hadn't taken hold for decades. I found an interesting piece
- 2:47Speaker 2: that I think puts this all together. I'll tease it
- 2:52Speaker 2: for a moment before I share some information with you
- 2:54Speaker 2: and then go back to it. Here's the tease. There's
- 2:58Speaker 2: an old saying about you need to have skin the game.
- 3:03Speaker 2: In other words, you need to have something at stake.
- 3:09Speaker 2: An example of that is the companies that go to
- 3:12Speaker 2: employee stock ownership plans and the business itself as employee owned. Well,
- 3:17Speaker 2: when the employees actually own the company, the thinking goes
- 3:23Speaker 2: they have a vested interest in being more tied into
- 3:26Speaker 2: the success of the company, as opposed to somebody who's
- 3:30Speaker 2: just going to work there for three months and go
- 3:32Speaker 2: somewhere else. Hold that thought, because I think one of
- 3:37Speaker 2: the growing trends in America tends to explain the embrace,
- 3:42Speaker 2: particularly in the big leftist cities, and that's where this
- 3:45Speaker 2: is all coming from. I don't see like democrats right
- 3:49Speaker 2: and left in rural Wisconsin saying that they're socialists and Marxist.
- 3:53Speaker 2: The big cities around the New York and all of that,
- 3:55Speaker 2: those are the ones that are going for this. There's
- 3:58Speaker 2: something going on in those cities. Sure that. In just
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- 4:31Speaker 2: dot com. The most perceptive Conservative in recent years was
- 4:38Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. His loss is immense for a lot of reasons,
- 4:44Speaker 2: including his ability to understand and figure things out. There's
- 4:49Speaker 2: some people that are drawing attention to something that he
- 4:51Speaker 2: said a few months ago and tie it into this
- 4:57Speaker 2: context to the political debate about so called affordability. Now
- 5:02Speaker 2: we'll get to that at a moment. What you've noticed, though,
- 5:05Speaker 2: take Momdanni in New York. He the issue that he
- 5:12Speaker 2: used to sell Marxism in his campaign for New York
- 5:15Speaker 2: was affordability. Everything's too expensive. Now, I can argue, of course,
- 5:21Speaker 2: all the reasons why Marxism doesn't make things less expensive.
- 5:28Speaker 2: That it's what it instead does is it creates massive
- 5:31Speaker 2: product supplies, creates ultimately to terlitarianism. It ultimately fails terribly,
- 5:38Speaker 2: and the Marxists need to have a keep their grip
- 5:42Speaker 2: on control, so they start taking away everybody's rights. It
- 5:44Speaker 2: happens everywhere there's Marxism. But the bigger thing to look
- 5:49Speaker 2: at is why the affordability thing they've been able to
- 5:54Speaker 2: tie into Marxism. Let's start with this. The affordability problem
- 5:58Speaker 2: exploded during the Biden and it was the Democrats that
- 6:02Speaker 2: refused to be bothered by all the inflation that was
- 6:06Speaker 2: going on that are suddenly now complaining about the inflation.
- 6:10Speaker 2: There will be the permanent legacy of Biden. Well, prices
- 6:14Speaker 2: for you don't want prices to go down, that's deflation.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Deflation only occurs in a depression. What we have to
- 6:21Speaker 2: do is stop them from going any higher, which Trump
- 6:23Speaker 2: has been rather successful at doing. Nonetheless, this affordability issue
- 6:27Speaker 2: is there, and it's real, and it's especially real in
- 6:30Speaker 2: the big cities. Big cities have always been more expensive
- 6:32Speaker 2: to live in, obviously than the middle of nowhere, but
- 6:35Speaker 2: it's really bad there. Now. Some people are asking why
- 6:43Speaker 2: didn't they have this concern about affordability when we actually
- 6:46Speaker 2: had inflation. Well I have a theory about that too.
- 6:52Speaker 2: The left piece know we were having inflation when we
- 6:54Speaker 2: were having it. It wasn't like MSNBC was saying, inflation
- 6:58Speaker 2: is exploded. You may have noticed, and many people did,
- 7:01Speaker 2: that the price of butter was going up and the
- 7:02Speaker 2: price of everything else was going up, but it was
- 7:05Speaker 2: never particularly highlighted. And so many people on the left
- 7:09Speaker 2: are incapable of actually observing anything on their own. It's
- 7:13Speaker 2: only when they're told of something that they start reacting
- 7:17Speaker 2: to it. It's an entire class of society, about half
- 7:20Speaker 2: this country, that only does what it's told and only
- 7:23Speaker 2: thinks what it's told to think about anyway, that's where
- 7:26Speaker 2: the affordability came from. But let me go back to
- 7:29Speaker 2: where I want to take this. Why are people open
- 7:37Speaker 2: to the notion that Marxism is the answer to affordability.
- 7:43Speaker 2: That's where Charlie Kirk made a comment, and it's been resurrected,
- 7:46Speaker 2: and it's not being talked about in some conservative circles
- 7:49Speaker 2: as being prophetic before I read the comment. Let's back
- 7:53Speaker 2: into this. George W. Bush President. One of the things
- 7:58Speaker 2: that he tried to achieve that I think failed was
- 8:01Speaker 2: he kept talking about having an ownership society. Bush had
- 8:06Speaker 2: a number of ideas that sounded pretty good that didn't
- 8:09Speaker 2: work out. One of his ideas was to bring democracy
- 8:11Speaker 2: to the Middle East. Democracy didn't work in the Middle East.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I didn't know that at the time, but it's clear
- 8:18Speaker 2: that it doesn't. Bush kept pushing this opportunity society. He
- 8:30Speaker 2: pushed very hard for home ownership. He pushed very hard
- 8:34Speaker 2: for entrepreneurialism where people would own their own business. Again,
- 8:39Speaker 2: go back to the skin in the game argument. If
- 8:46Speaker 2: you own something and it goes up in value, you've
- 8:50Speaker 2: created your own economic security plan. For instance, if housing
- 8:56Speaker 2: costs are exploding, but you own housing, it's not a
- 9:01Speaker 2: bad thing for you. If you own a rental property
- 9:07Speaker 2: where the rents go from eighteen hundred dollars a month
- 9:10Speaker 2: to twenty seven hundred dollars a month, and you own
- 9:12Speaker 2: that property, well, that increase is making is keeping up
- 9:15Speaker 2: with all of your costs that are going up for
- 9:17Speaker 2: everything else. If you own a home that you buy
- 9:19Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and fifteen years
- 9:21Speaker 2: later it's worth six hundred and seventy five thousand dollars,
- 9:24Speaker 2: that home is less affordable than somebody else, but you
- 9:26Speaker 2: own the thing that went up in value. Growth in
- 9:33Speaker 2: an economy only benefits from people who are actually participating
- 9:37Speaker 2: in the economy, and participating in the economy goes beyond
- 9:40Speaker 2: simply I'm gonna go buy something, you have to have
- 9:45Speaker 2: a stake in it. And the comment that Charlie Kirk
- 9:50Speaker 2: made dealt with how in the big cities in the
- 9:54Speaker 2: United States, so many people, including very affluent people, we're
- 10:00Speaker 2: all renting. You see this trend in every big city
- 10:07Speaker 2: that we have. You see it in Milwaukee. The housing
- 10:11Speaker 2: boom in downtown Milwaukee is almost entirely rental. That housing boom,
- 10:16Speaker 2: by the way, as I'll mention in a moment here,
- 10:17Speaker 2: I think, has finally ended. I can't say that I'm
- 10:21Speaker 2: right about this because I've thought that the housing market
- 10:25Speaker 2: in downtown Milwaukee was overbuilt for fifteen years. It finally is,
- 10:29Speaker 2: but it certainly wasn't when I started saying it. But
- 10:31Speaker 2: it's almost all rental, and it's everywhere in the United States.
- 10:34Speaker 2: You find these cities that are going to hell, Seattle, Portland,
- 10:37Speaker 2: San Francisco, New York. Almost everybody in New York rents. Oh,
- 10:40Speaker 2: there are some people who in some of the boroughs
- 10:43Speaker 2: own a small home. And then there are the rich
- 10:46Speaker 2: people that own there in their co ops on Madison
- 10:48Speaker 2: Avenue and all of that stuff. But the overwhelming majority rent,
- 10:53Speaker 2: and in many cases rent and pay a fortune. When
- 10:59Speaker 2: you read and pay a fortune, affordability crushes you. When
- 11:09Speaker 2: things become more expensive and you don't own anything, your
- 11:14Speaker 2: entire economic life is you paying for other stuff. Secondly,
- 11:19Speaker 2: you don't have any skin in the game. There's a
- 11:26Speaker 2: piece on Fox News that appeared a few days ago,
- 11:29Speaker 2: written by Taylor Penley that deals with the Charlie Kirk comment,
- 11:33Speaker 2: and I want to share it here. Resurface warnings from
- 11:36Speaker 2: the Late Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk about the
- 11:39Speaker 2: dangers of young Americans embracing socialism are drawing new attention
- 11:44Speaker 2: after New York City mayor elect Zoron Mamdani, a self
- 11:46Speaker 2: described Democratic socialists, met with President Donald Trump and the
- 11:49Speaker 2: White House quote and here's the Charlie quote, how do
- 11:56Speaker 2: we get more young people under the age of thirty
- 11:58Speaker 2: five to have equity in the system. Not the democrat
- 12:03Speaker 2: version of equity where they want to have redistribution, but
- 12:08Speaker 2: actually are they paying a mortgage, do they own stuff?
- 12:13Speaker 2: Or are they permanent renters. This is July eleventh, not
- 12:17Speaker 2: long before he was killed. Charlie Kirk said this, if
- 12:22Speaker 2: you don't own anything, what skin do you have in
- 12:24Speaker 2: the game. You're completely at the mercy of everybody else.
- 12:32Speaker 2: All those apartment buildings in New York that these people
- 12:35Speaker 2: are being priced out of, that they're reading and know
- 12:37Speaker 2: Mondani coming in, I'm gonna do rent control, trying to
- 12:39Speaker 2: make it free. Well, somebody owns all those buildings. You
- 12:48Speaker 2: had an entire generation, the millennials, that just turn their
- 12:51Speaker 2: noses up at the notion of owning anything. They were
- 12:54Speaker 2: late to home ownership, they were late to starting a family.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Some were entrepreneurial, but most were not. They were the
- 13:02Speaker 2: ones that had got all these college degrees at which
- 13:04Speaker 2: they were trained in nothing. They ended up going into
- 13:08Speaker 2: the gig economy, driving uber, doing door dash, doing all
- 13:11Speaker 2: of these part time things because they couldn't find an
- 13:14Speaker 2: actual job. The notion that they would start and own
- 13:17Speaker 2: their own company non existed to them. I wonder, I
- 13:21Speaker 2: honestly don't know. I wonder what percentage of new businesses
- 13:24Speaker 2: started in America in the last twenty years from college graduates.
- 13:27Speaker 2: When I see who started business, it's like people opening
- 13:30Speaker 2: an HVAC company. People in the skilled trades, young people. Okay,
- 13:34Speaker 2: I worked in this for six years. Now I'm going
- 13:36Speaker 2: to start my own business. Those are the people who
- 13:42Speaker 2: have the plutancial for long term prosperity. Now. The thing
- 13:49Speaker 2: with regard to rent, and why I think it becomes
- 13:54Speaker 2: such a strong talking point for the Marxists, is that
- 14:00Speaker 2: in many instances these people are rather well off, but
- 14:04Speaker 2: everything's going out the door in rent. When I see
- 14:08Speaker 2: some of the rents in downtown Milwaukee, it blows my mind.
- 14:11Speaker 2: People paying three four five thousand dollars a month, And
- 14:14Speaker 2: I think about the value of a home that you
- 14:17Speaker 2: could get. If that was your mortgage payment, it would
- 14:19Speaker 2: be through the rough. You'd have an extremely nice home,
- 14:24Speaker 2: the long term potential of it increasing in value, helping
- 14:28Speaker 2: you to be set for life. But instead you're paying
- 14:32Speaker 2: pretty much everything you have to live in this nice
- 14:34Speaker 2: place that you're renting, and now here you are, you're
- 14:36Speaker 2: forty five years old. You have nothing to show for
- 14:38Speaker 2: the income that you have. Your rent keeps going up,
- 14:41Speaker 2: the cost of everything else is going up. Of course,
- 14:44Speaker 2: capitalism isn't working for you because you're not right now.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Part of capitalism you don't need anything now. The exception
- 14:50Speaker 2: to this is the people who beat the system. There
- 14:54Speaker 2: are some people who rent and then set aside their
- 14:58Speaker 2: money for them. This doesn't apply if you rent instead
- 15:06Speaker 2: of owning and take all of the savings. You're not
- 15:08Speaker 2: paying homeowners insurance, you're not a mortgae in all of this.
- 15:11Speaker 2: And when you'd get a mortgage a ton of it
- 15:12Speaker 2: as interest, you're not paying any of that. If you're
- 15:15Speaker 2: setting that aside for your own nest egg and you
- 15:18Speaker 2: got all this money in the bag, or you invested
- 15:20Speaker 2: in stocks or whatever, you're still going to be fine
- 15:22Speaker 2: because you own something else. Putting money in your four
- 15:25Speaker 2: oh one K that's in the stock market, that's owning something.
- 15:28Speaker 2: You're owning these businesses and hopefully that the companies whose
- 15:31Speaker 2: socks have been going up in price. But the people
- 15:34Speaker 2: that are living and saving nothing, which is a lot
- 15:38Speaker 2: of these lefties who live in the big cities, they're
- 15:40Speaker 2: not participating in that either. The stock market, other than
- 15:45Speaker 2: two or three hiccups, is then nothing but go up
- 15:47Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty one. But how about all the people
- 15:51Speaker 2: that didn't participate in that, and all despite the fact
- 15:53Speaker 2: that they had a rather high income because they were
- 15:56Speaker 2: spending it all I think they're are the ones that
- 16:00Speaker 2: are most open to the Marxist ideas, and take a
- 16:04Speaker 2: look at these bigs. It's all renting. Back to the
- 16:08Speaker 2: Peace on Fox News, quoting Charlie Kirk, a permanent renting
- 16:13Speaker 2: class in this country is the prerequisite, is the leading
- 16:17Speaker 2: ingredient for radical politics that nobody wants to see. That's
- 16:21Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. He's right about this. If you went into
- 16:27Speaker 2: New York and took a look at the voting percentages
- 16:32Speaker 2: of renters in the mayoral race, I guarantee you that
- 16:35Speaker 2: it was higher than the overall total vote. The percentage
- 16:37Speaker 2: from Mamdani guarantee you continuing, we need to reinvigorate the
- 16:44Speaker 2: ownership economy, and then all of a sudden, when you
- 16:48Speaker 2: own stuff, you're less likely to burn down Wendy's and
- 16:52Speaker 2: vote for candidates like Zora Mandami Mamdani, he's right about
- 16:56Speaker 2: that too. If you own a home in Kenosha, you're
- 17:00Speaker 2: probably less likely during the riots at Gonocehan to burn
- 17:03Speaker 2: Kenosha down than if a you didn't even live in
- 17:07Speaker 2: the city, or b you're just a cannon somewhere. Again,
- 17:10Speaker 2: you don't have any skin in the game in the
- 17:19Speaker 2: area that I live in Florida, it's tons of tons
- 17:23Speaker 2: of condos, and a lot of the condo owners rent
- 17:25Speaker 2: out their condos because it's been just the license to
- 17:29Speaker 2: print money because the underlying value of the condos until
- 17:33Speaker 2: recently had been going up. Everybody wants to live in
- 17:36Speaker 2: South Florida, so they're able to charge huge rent so
- 17:39Speaker 2: they're making way more than their mortgage payments and all
- 17:42Speaker 2: the properties that they've bought and so on they bought in.
- 17:45Speaker 2: One of the big controversies though, is over whether or
- 17:50Speaker 2: not the buildings should allow the airbnbs and the other
- 17:55Speaker 2: short term rentals. Many of the buildings do not do it,
- 18:00Speaker 2: can write in the bylaws they don't allow the owners
- 18:02Speaker 2: to do short term rentals. Others do it because in
- 18:05Speaker 2: the very short term you can make a killing. I
- 18:08Speaker 2: take a look at what some people pay to spend
- 18:10Speaker 2: a weekend and fluid in an airbnb in it's as
- 18:13Speaker 2: much as like hotel rooms, but it's not in the
- 18:19Speaker 2: long term interest of everybody else who lives in the building.
- 18:23Speaker 2: It's the same as a neighborhood. How you like to
- 18:25Speaker 2: live next to somebody who airbnb their house out three
- 18:28Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five days a year, stating the obvious.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Somebody that's on a six day short term rental doesn't
- 18:37Speaker 2: give a crap about the condition of the place they're standing.
- 18:40Speaker 2: They beat it all up. What do they care. We're
- 18:47Speaker 2: becoming an airbnb society where nobody has laid their teeth
- 18:53Speaker 2: into anything. Paul's now in the rental locker business, this
- 19:01Speaker 2: storage business. Obviously, some people need to pay for storage.
- 19:05Speaker 2: Where's the money in the storage? Owning the ownit, not
- 19:08Speaker 2: reading it. It's the same for almost anything. So the
- 19:14Speaker 2: point that Charlie Kirk was making in this warning that
- 19:16Speaker 2: seems to be prophetic. If you want to have people
- 19:21Speaker 2: embrace capitalism and oppose self destructive policies like Marxism, which
- 19:27Speaker 2: leads to anarchy, they have to own stuff. And let's
- 19:30Speaker 2: go to the anarchy. By the way. The street takeovers
- 19:33Speaker 2: that we saw in Milwaukee this past summer, and that
- 19:35Speaker 2: occur all the time in Seattle and Portland, there were
- 19:38Speaker 2: several in New York City over the weekend. Fifty sixty
- 19:41Speaker 2: seventy cars come into a street that people have to
- 19:43Speaker 2: heighten their homes to terrify, and the police departments have
- 19:45Speaker 2: no ability to knock it down because they don't have
- 19:47Speaker 2: the fire power or the weaponry to deal with two
- 19:49Speaker 2: hundred people who have guns going crazy. Who's the most
- 19:53Speaker 2: bothered by this? Somebody who owns a home in that
- 19:57Speaker 2: block of New York. If you're a renter, okay, fine,
- 19:59Speaker 2: this is going I lay. If you're a renter, do
- 20:04Speaker 2: you care if people are burning your city down? Get
- 20:07Speaker 2: the flexibility. I you are on the place. You've got
- 20:10Speaker 2: what skin in the game now. I think what happened
- 20:15Speaker 2: with the millennials is as a group, and again we're generalizing.
- 20:22Speaker 2: There's always exceptions, but what happened with the millennials as
- 20:25Speaker 2: a group, their path into adulthood was delayed. I contend
- 20:32Speaker 2: by baby boomer parents. Many of them were living at
- 20:38Speaker 2: home when they were twenty seven years old. They call
- 20:43Speaker 2: mom and dad if they're pulled over by a cop.
- 20:50Speaker 2: I see some signs that there's a greater interest in
- 20:52Speaker 2: home ownership and property ownership and ownership of anything by
- 20:55Speaker 2: the gen zs. Not all of them, but for a
- 20:59Speaker 2: lot of these millennials. They didn't want to be tied down.
- 21:01Speaker 2: They didn't want responsibility. Well, that's the downside of owning something.
- 21:06Speaker 2: You have to be responsible for it. You don't want
- 21:08Speaker 2: to let it go to hell. But over the long term,
- 21:11Speaker 2: if you don't own anything, unless you're setting aside and
- 21:14Speaker 2: saving money, elsewise, you're crushed in an economy in which
- 21:19Speaker 2: things become more expensive. So you then bite onto policies
- 21:25Speaker 2: that will never ever work because you're looking for a
- 21:27Speaker 2: short term fix out of the mess that you're in.
- 21:38Speaker 2: What happens, of course, when you impose Marxism, which makes
- 21:41Speaker 2: includes price controls and make things free, is nobody has
- 21:46Speaker 2: an incentive to produce anything because there's price controls on them.
- 21:48Speaker 2: You can't make enough money by making that thing. This
- 21:50Speaker 2: seems to be what's going on with beef in America
- 21:53Speaker 2: so far as I can tell, and there isn't enough
- 21:58Speaker 2: of anything. And you up with the potato lines in Moscow.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I always bring up the potato lines in Moscow because
- 22:04Speaker 2: everybody saw those pictures of the potatoes. You'd see these
- 22:06Speaker 2: Russian women standing in line for seven hours to get
- 22:09Speaker 2: one potato, beaten down by the weather, haggard and as
- 22:13Speaker 2: ugly looking as you can be. Then we saw all
- 22:15Speaker 2: these Russian women who came to the United States when
- 22:17Speaker 2: they were in the twenties, after the Berlin after, you know,
- 22:20Speaker 2: the Soviet Union fell. They're all beautiful. So what we
- 22:23Speaker 2: learned is Russian women when they're young are rather beautiful.
- 22:25Speaker 2: But all the ones by the time there were fifty
- 22:27Speaker 2: when living under communism, looked like they were one hundred
- 22:29Speaker 2: and fifty years old. That's what shortages. It's what a
- 22:32Speaker 2: totally an economy that is always in a malaise due
- 22:38Speaker 2: to people. It doesn't work, Which brings me now to
- 22:43Speaker 2: where do you think we're going? You should know you
- 22:48Speaker 2: photo copied my material. You didn't do anything I was
- 22:52Speaker 2: Some of this has been stockpiled. It brings us to
- 22:54Speaker 2: South America. South America is thirty five years ahead of
- 23:00Speaker 2: us in the United States. What do I mean by that?
- 23:04Speaker 2: Thirty five years ago most of South America embraced Marxism
- 23:08Speaker 2: and socialism, and broadly speaking fifteen to thirty five years.
- 23:15Speaker 2: But Venezuela, Cuba, of course, started in the Caribbean, a
- 23:23Speaker 2: couple of the countries in Central America, Nicaragua back in
- 23:26Speaker 2: the eighties. Then the revolution in Venezuela. Brazil's now a mess.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Chile's gone back and forth. They embraced socialism and it's
- 23:40Speaker 2: been a disaster. The first country to turn was Argentina.
- 23:46Speaker 2: In its presidential election two years ago. Argentina elected a
- 23:50Speaker 2: conservative government. The president is named Mili m I l Ei.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Controversial guy also has I'm guessing his hairpiece because it
- 24:00Speaker 2: just it looks pretty goofy. He however, won reelection. His
- 24:05Speaker 2: government got a ratification of approval from the Argentine voters.
- 24:09Speaker 2: There is now it's a big story again in the
- 24:13Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal Chile. The conservative political party made significant
- 24:18Speaker 2: advances in the most recent election, and the story deals
- 24:20Speaker 2: about the right word turn in South America. So as
- 24:24Speaker 2: North America, certainly Canada and now fearfully the United States
- 24:27Speaker 2: turns to the left toward Marxism, South America is going
- 24:30Speaker 2: in the other direction. Well, we know why it's been
- 24:33Speaker 2: a disaster down there. And the pattern in all of
- 24:38Speaker 2: these South American nations that went marxisty is after coming
- 24:42Speaker 2: into the front door, being democratically elected, they then strip
- 24:45Speaker 2: away democratic rights. There are no elections. You have what
- 24:48Speaker 2: you have in Venezuela, in which it's government via gunpoint.
- 24:53Speaker 2: People try to escape bety have gotten out. The rest
- 24:56Speaker 2: of the people are living in abject poverty. The drug
- 25:00Speaker 2: dealers are the only force in the economy that's producing anything,
- 25:03Speaker 2: so they have an extraordinary amount of power. All of
- 25:08Speaker 2: that happens. See socialism, Marxism does it work. So once
- 25:12Speaker 2: they're in place, they can't allow you to have elections
- 25:15Speaker 2: because nobody's going to vote to keep it because everything
- 25:18Speaker 2: has gone to hell. The closest we came prior to
- 25:21Speaker 2: this point was the Carter years in America. Carter wasn't
- 25:26Speaker 2: a socialist, but the Democrats in the nineteen seventies were very,
- 25:31Speaker 2: very liberal, and they wrecked the economy. Everything was bad.
- 25:38Speaker 2: You had high inflation, high unemployment, and high interest rates,
- 25:42Speaker 2: and people felt as though their country was going to hell.
- 25:46Speaker 2: And Reagan was elected to undo all of that. We
- 25:52Speaker 2: never got to the point that South America is at now.
- 25:55Speaker 2: The danger we're facing now is Jimmy Carter was a liberal,
- 26:00Speaker 2: was incompetent. These Marxists that are coming around now are radicals.
- 26:05Speaker 2: They're true believers. Carter would have said I'm not a Marxist.
- 26:10Speaker 2: They would have considered it a slur. Until very recently,
- 26:12Speaker 2: Democrats kept denying that they were socialists, but now they
- 26:16Speaker 2: openly brag of it and admit it. And as I say,
- 26:22Speaker 2: all of this is going on at a time in
- 26:24Speaker 2: which the percentage of Americans who are homeowners is lower
- 26:27Speaker 2: than ever, And one of the reasons it's lower than
- 26:33Speaker 2: ever is that the values of homes has gone up
- 26:36Speaker 2: over the years. Housing prices are very high, rental housing
- 26:40Speaker 2: prices are extremely high. So the people who owned all
- 26:45Speaker 2: of these things that got way more expensive, they benefited
- 26:48Speaker 2: because their thing is worth way more. But those that
- 26:52Speaker 2: were crowded out are hurt the most. Trump came up
- 26:57Speaker 2: with this idea, and I don't think it's a good one,
- 26:59Speaker 2: but I under stan where he's coming from. The idea
- 27:01Speaker 2: of the fifty year mortgage. No, I don't think it's
- 27:03Speaker 2: a good idea because I just think having that much debt,
- 27:05Speaker 2: But I know why he's thinking of this. He's trying
- 27:08Speaker 2: to come up with a way to make housing affordable.
- 27:11Speaker 2: If you lower somebody's payment by stretching it over fifty years,
- 27:14Speaker 2: they're likely to buy. I know that the following points
- 27:21Speaker 2: sound stupid some of you out there, Oh, your points
- 27:25Speaker 2: sound stupid because this isn't really skin in the game,
- 27:30Speaker 2: But it works for me. I think one of the
- 27:39Speaker 2: reasons I won't say the only but I do think
- 27:41Speaker 2: the biggest the biggest reason that the Packers were able
- 27:45Speaker 2: to survive in Green Bay. There's nothing like this. There's
- 27:48Speaker 2: no other city of the size of green Bay that
- 27:50Speaker 2: has a pro football team, or for that matter, a
- 27:52Speaker 2: baseball or basketball team. Some of the lesser sports is
- 27:54Speaker 2: a couple like that. Green Bay is what one hundred
- 27:56Speaker 2: and ten thousand. How the pack survive by having the
- 28:06Speaker 2: team being owned. There are people who don't live in
- 28:09Speaker 2: Wisconsin to think the city of green Bay owns the team.
- 28:12Speaker 2: The team is owned by shareholders. Now it's an unusual
- 28:15Speaker 2: shareholder set up. As I said, the point's a little
- 28:17Speaker 2: stupid because the skin that a Packer shareholder has in
- 28:20Speaker 2: the game isn't real because if the Packers were ever sold,
- 28:25Speaker 2: you don't get anything and you can't even trade your stock.
- 28:30Speaker 2: But when you did put the money in, that skin
- 28:35Speaker 2: went into the game. There is the concept of pride
- 28:39Speaker 2: of ownership. The Packers would have left long ago if
- 28:45Speaker 2: they hadn't come up with this financially viable model. That
- 28:48Speaker 2: it is a financially viable model. Get the people who
- 28:52Speaker 2: like your team to keep putting in enough money that
- 28:55Speaker 2: you've got a going business. You don't need a billionaire
- 28:59Speaker 2: owner because you tens of millions of dollars that were
- 29:01Speaker 2: invested in by these shareholders all over the years. The
- 29:08Speaker 2: people who own the stock of the packers. Again, it's
- 29:11Speaker 2: limited skin in the game. It's not like say, if
- 29:15Speaker 2: I own a few shares of Microsoft, I actually own
- 29:18Speaker 2: something that I can sell, and where Microsoft goes up
- 29:20Speaker 2: in value, I can show a profit. It's not as
- 29:22Speaker 2: good as that. But by and large, when you have
- 29:26Speaker 2: a vested interest in doing well when the country does well,
- 29:32Speaker 2: you're and I think this is stating the obvious, you're
- 29:35Speaker 2: likely to be vested in capitalism and freedom than somebody
- 29:40Speaker 2: who has nothing to show up for their life. You've
- 29:42Speaker 2: got all of these highly educated people with these semi
- 29:45Speaker 2: worthless college degrees, feeling as though they're all under employed.
- 29:49Speaker 2: But they all want to live the good life, and
- 29:51Speaker 2: they tend to live in the big cities, the worst
- 29:55Speaker 2: place that they should live. It's really extended. It's even
- 30:00Speaker 2: those big cities, particularly cities like New York. One of
- 30:12Speaker 2: the things that hasn't worked is to tell the lefties
- 30:15Speaker 2: that are embracing Marxism, look around at all the other
- 30:18Speaker 2: places that have gone Marxist. Do you want to live
- 30:19Speaker 2: like that. It so far has not worked. I do
- 30:22Speaker 2: believe that it can work in national elections where many
- 30:27Speaker 2: people don't live in those cities. Telling somebody in New
- 30:31Speaker 2: York do you want it to be like Seattle didn't
- 30:33Speaker 2: work on them, But I think that that certainly works
- 30:39Speaker 2: on somebody sitting there in Germantown that they don't want
- 30:42Speaker 2: their country to be like Seattle in New York. So
- 30:46Speaker 2: the Democrats will face a problem if they run a
- 30:49Speaker 2: Marxist candidate for president, and their next candidate for president
- 30:54Speaker 2: may well be a Marxist, because that's where all the
- 30:56Speaker 2: momentum in the party is, and that will do really,
- 31:01Speaker 2: really well, But only in all of the places that
- 31:02Speaker 2: already everybody votes for the Democrats. Anyway. The Charlie Kirk argument, though,
- 31:15Speaker 2: again so prophetic, and he saw this coming again. His
- 31:19Speaker 2: comment was only a few months ago before them ninety one,
- 31:21Speaker 2: but he tied the embrace of Marxism to be end.
- 31:26Speaker 2: You know, one of Charlie had all these messages, one
- 31:29Speaker 2: of them go to church, another one young people get
- 31:31Speaker 2: married early in life, have children, And he kept saying
- 31:34Speaker 2: by a home, by a home, by a home, by
- 31:36Speaker 2: a home. This is a guy who what didn't graduate
- 31:38Speaker 2: from college. He thought college was semi worthless given what
- 31:42Speaker 2: it was that they were teaching. His message was resonating
- 31:45Speaker 2: with the younger people who listened to him, but it
- 31:49Speaker 2: was also largely into reaction to many of the mistakes
- 31:52Speaker 2: that those in the millennial generation made. It's certainly possible,
- 32:00Speaker 2: well that you could buy, you know, start a business.
- 32:01Speaker 2: You can go under you lose all your money. You
- 32:04Speaker 2: could also buy a home in the wrong neighborhood or
- 32:06Speaker 2: buy at the wrong time at the peak of a market,
- 32:08Speaker 2: and lose a fair amount of money. But over the
- 32:12Speaker 2: long haul, I would say ninety eight percent of the
- 32:16Speaker 2: people in America who bought a home made money in
- 32:20Speaker 2: the deal over the long haul. I don't mean one
- 32:22Speaker 2: to two years over the long haul, because now for
- 32:24Speaker 2: the long haul, well, look at houses where when when
- 32:27Speaker 2: I was a kid, I remember, I think I know what.
- 32:31Speaker 2: We moved from the shack across the river to the
- 32:35Speaker 2: suburbs of Kokana when it's not like closer to the
- 32:40Speaker 2: inner city. All those cities up there just have expanded
- 32:43Speaker 2: and expanded and expanded and expanded. It's like a ranch.
- 32:50Speaker 2: It was very, very hard to lose money. So why
- 32:54Speaker 2: do you think so many millennials didn't do it? As
- 32:56Speaker 2: I say, I just think that many of them wanted
- 32:58Speaker 2: to keep They didn't want to do they we wanted
- 33:00Speaker 2: to stay home. They wanted to have their freedom. They're
- 33:03Speaker 2: moving to adulthood was just way different than the generations
- 33:07Speaker 2: earlier than them. My generations move into adulthood was the
- 33:11Speaker 2: age of eighteen, and everybody got out of the house.
- 33:15Speaker 2: And the generation a little bit earlier than of those
- 33:17Speaker 2: that didn't go to college were all sent to Vietnam.
- 33:19Speaker 2: You were an adult right away. And the World War
- 33:23Speaker 2: two generation the same thing. They all came back and
- 33:25Speaker 2: they want to own a house. The people in the
- 33:28Speaker 2: World War two generation didn't own a house. There was
- 33:30Speaker 2: a term for them. Do you know what it was?
- 33:33Speaker 2: Loser bums. That's bums. I mean when I was a kid,
- 33:40Speaker 2: there were hardly any homes that were rental. They were all,
- 33:43Speaker 2: even the shacky ones, they were owned by the people
- 33:45Speaker 2: who lived in them. And again skin in the game,
- 33:51Speaker 2: suppose you want a little dumpy you know, I won't
- 33:53Speaker 2: even use the term very modest home in one of
- 33:55Speaker 2: our more affordable suburbs around here. You do not want
- 34:00Speaker 2: I have riots in your street. You don't want to
- 34:02Speaker 2: have murders. You don't want to have problems. You have
- 34:03Speaker 2: skin of the game. You live here and you own
- 34:06Speaker 2: your house. When you own nothing, when you have no
- 34:12Speaker 2: teeth at all in the United States of America, you
- 34:14Speaker 2: don't even have money in an IRA, that's lessen that.
- 34:16Speaker 2: When you own nothing, you're an open target for people
- 34:24Speaker 2: who push greed. Look at all these other people. They're
- 34:27Speaker 2: making all this money and you're not. Well, it's true,
- 34:30Speaker 2: they are making all this money and you're not. All
- 34:31Speaker 2: your money is going to the rent you're paying for
- 34:34Speaker 2: the place that you can't afford to live in because
- 34:36Speaker 2: you want to be in New Yorker. You want to
- 34:38Speaker 2: be here, or you want to be in this high
- 34:40Speaker 2: falutant place. The answer isn't to embrace Marxism. The answer
- 34:45Speaker 2: perhaps is that you would all of the other people
- 34:47Speaker 2: who are actually making money are doing. But when you're
- 34:51Speaker 2: forty four now you feel you're so far behind the
- 34:54Speaker 2: eight ball you can't ever catch up. So some Marxist
- 34:57Speaker 2: comes around in sells you a bill of goods, and
- 35:00Speaker 2: you're gonna fall for it, the same way that people
- 35:02Speaker 2: that Cuba fell for Castro the same way that the
- 35:06Speaker 2: Russians fell for lenin the same way that the nicer
- 35:10Speaker 2: Rogmans fell for Ortega. And I better stop these examples
- 35:14Speaker 2: because they'll run out of communists too. Uh well, that's
- 35:19Speaker 2: that's my point. That's my point. Belling's rule. The more
- 35:27Speaker 2: screwed up the city is, the more radical the mayor is.
- 35:31Speaker 2: I mean, it just holds. New York right now is
- 35:34Speaker 2: not as bad off as Chicago, but it will be,
- 35:38Speaker 2: that'll be, and that'll be the question is Brandon is
- 35:40Speaker 2: Johnson the mayor of Chicago, more radical than I'm Nadi?
- 35:44Speaker 2: They'll make a battle to the left and you'll be
- 35:46Speaker 2: able to measure it in the murder rate. And how
- 35:47Speaker 2: much the business is falling apart and business is leaving
- 35:50Speaker 2: end the economic decay. Times Square returning to what it
- 35:54Speaker 2: was in nineteen seventy nine, is opposed to the family friendly,
- 35:57Speaker 2: tourist mecca that it is now. And then ultimately the
- 36:02Speaker 2: Potato Line. You remember those pictures of the Russian women
- 36:08Speaker 2: standing in the Potato line and bad, everything's fallen, and
- 36:12Speaker 2: they none of them met anybody, but boy, it ended
- 36:15Speaker 2: the whole politics of envy because they couldn't be jealous
- 36:17Speaker 2: of the rich because nobody was just the only people
- 36:20Speaker 2: that were rich were the people that ran the country. Oh,
- 36:24Speaker 2: they have a great ability to make themselves rich. So
- 36:27Speaker 2: you get these billionaires, third generation foreign billionaires like Mamdani
- 36:31Speaker 2: that weren't raised in this country that come from and
- 36:34Speaker 2: hate America. Oh, they'll take care of themselves, and they'll
- 36:38Speaker 2: handle government jobs and government contracts, and all of the
- 36:41Speaker 2: stuff that's going to be free is going to be
- 36:43Speaker 2: provided by people that areround the doal of the government.
- 36:47Speaker 2: That part all works. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Now here's the next part of this. One of the
- 37:00Speaker 2: big problems that we face in this country are people
- 37:04Speaker 2: who are stupid but think they're smart. I mean, that's
- 37:08Speaker 2: just generally a problem in life. I've said this many times.
- 37:12Speaker 2: Idiots generally are not dangerous. There's not much harm they
- 37:15Speaker 2: can do because most idiots know they're idiots. If you're
- 37:18Speaker 2: somebody who's not very smart, that you're very very cautious
- 37:20Speaker 2: and you try very hard not to make a mistake
- 37:23Speaker 2: and you ask for help all the time. It's the
- 37:26Speaker 2: people who think they know something but don't are very,
- 37:29Speaker 2: very dangerous. Jason Riley Collum of the Wall Street Journal.
- 37:34Speaker 2: We all know about the great inflation that's gone on
- 37:36Speaker 2: at the big universities. This one is about Harvard twenty
- 37:42Speaker 2: four to twenty five. In other words, the academic year
- 37:44Speaker 2: that ended this past May, the percentage of a's courses,
- 37:55Speaker 2: the percentage of grades in courses at Harvard that were a's,
- 38:01Speaker 2: sixty sixty percent of the grades and all of the
- 38:06Speaker 2: courses were a's. Well, it's no wonder they all think
- 38:11Speaker 2: they're smart, and no wonder they all graduate and they find,
- 38:13Speaker 2: in their shock, they can't find a job. They out
- 38:15Speaker 2: only are at Harvard. They're getting all a's. The column
- 38:20Speaker 2: actually tracks how fast this number has gone through the moon.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Let me read his column. It's well written, he writes.
- 38:29Speaker 2: You can always tell a Harvard man, the old saying goes,
- 38:31Speaker 2: but you can't tell him much. That includes, apparently, that
- 38:35Speaker 2: he may not be as smart as his grades suggest.
- 38:38Speaker 2: A recent internal Harvard report found that more than sixty
- 38:41Speaker 2: percent of grades given to undergraduates in the twenty four
- 38:44Speaker 2: to twenty five academic year were a's. Up from and
- 38:48Speaker 2: then they go to two decades ago. This just blows
- 38:51Speaker 2: your way. Two decades ago would be let's see no.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Two thousand and five. We're not even talking the seventies.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Of the eighties, it was twenty four percent, then twenty
- 39:01Speaker 2: years ago twenty four percent. But one in four of
- 39:05Speaker 2: the grades at Harvard were a's. Now it's three and five.
- 39:10Speaker 2: That's not gradual. That's an incredible spike, to the point
- 39:13Speaker 2: that I think it makes the grades meaningless. I have
- 39:19Speaker 2: a theorist the weather handing out all of these a's,
- 39:21Speaker 2: but we'll get to that in a moment. The median
- 39:25Speaker 2: grade point of graduation, which was three point twenty nine
- 39:28Speaker 2: and three point eight five, is now three point eight three.
- 39:31Speaker 2: That's the median. I remember when four point zero was
- 39:34Speaker 2: considered to be perfect. The median is now three point
- 39:37Speaker 2: eight three. That means that there's a whole lot that
- 39:40Speaker 2: are in this tight little range above three point eight three.
- 39:43Speaker 2: But the old Gurris and Kila line from with have
- 39:50Speaker 2: a prairie home companion that I quote all the time,
- 39:53Speaker 2: Lake Wobegon, where all of the children are above average.
- 40:00Speaker 2: It's possible that these outcomes stem from Harvard admitting smarter
- 40:04Speaker 2: and more diligent applicants. That's what some of the people
- 40:07Speaker 2: who have found all this say, well, Harvard's got really
- 40:09Speaker 2: really smart people. They're doing a work. How could we
- 40:12Speaker 2: help it? If everybody in the class is doing a work.
- 40:14Speaker 2: I can't give this kid a C just because I
- 40:18Speaker 2: have to give out a certain amount of c's. If
- 40:20Speaker 2: they all mastered the work, I have to give them
- 40:21Speaker 2: the a's. That's the argument that's always been made. My
- 40:25Speaker 2: retort to that is, maybe the course is too simple
- 40:28Speaker 2: if everybody's mastering it. Secondly, what's the point of the
- 40:33Speaker 2: A from the student who did excellent work if everybody
- 40:38Speaker 2: gets the A? Now, I believe one of the things
- 40:44Speaker 2: that drives this grotesque grade inflation. There's a lot of things.
- 40:47Speaker 2: You know, student evaluations have become very very important. The
- 40:50Speaker 2: students are likely to rank highly a professor who gave
- 40:53Speaker 2: an A than a professor who flunked them out of
- 40:55Speaker 2: a course. You also have the whole which college you're
- 40:58Speaker 2: going to go to. It's a very competitive thing. Harvard's
- 41:01Speaker 2: hard to get into, but if you know that if
- 41:02Speaker 2: you do make it in, you're gonna get a bunch
- 41:04Speaker 2: of a's, it may make you likelier to go there
- 41:06Speaker 2: than a college that the a's aren't given out like candy,
- 41:09Speaker 2: So they all feel the same pressure to hand out
- 41:11Speaker 2: the a's, And then there's the whole sense of liberalism
- 41:14Speaker 2: and entitlement in which people have the sense that they
- 41:18Speaker 2: deserve the AA or I'm a woman, I'm this, I'm that.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Why are you not giving me an A when this
- 41:23Speaker 2: white person over here got it. But this adds to
- 41:30Speaker 2: the issue that we were talking about earlier about all
- 41:34Speaker 2: of the people who feel this sense of going nowhere,
- 41:37Speaker 2: even though they have these degrees and they're living in
- 41:39Speaker 2: the big cities and so on. There are a whole
- 41:41Speaker 2: lot of people who think that they did extraordinarily well
- 41:43Speaker 2: in college and their elite, when in fact they just
- 41:45Speaker 2: did the same as everybody else that was in there. Now,
- 41:52Speaker 2: the one thing that's still hard is getting in. And
- 41:59Speaker 2: one of the things that makes it hard, and it
- 42:00Speaker 2: gets into a discussion that we had earlier in the
- 42:02Speaker 2: week with regard to the H one B visas. You've
- 42:06Speaker 2: got a lot of foreign students who come in and
- 42:10Speaker 2: often highly educated, it's easier to get in. That part
- 42:14Speaker 2: is still difficult. Harvard has not raised it's student bodied
- 42:17Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five thousand. It's still a tough
- 42:19Speaker 2: institution to get into. And so is Stanford, and so
- 42:23Speaker 2: is Yale, and so is MIT. But once they're in there,
- 42:29Speaker 2: the a's are handed out, and the end result of
- 42:36Speaker 2: this is a sense of arrogance from the people that graduate,
- 42:41Speaker 2: in which they assume that life is going to be
- 42:43Speaker 2: easier for them than it turns out to be. Little
- 42:48Speaker 2: did they know that they're entering a job market where
- 42:51Speaker 2: everybody else in the field also has all of these a's.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I'm going to change the subject about as radically as
- 43:03Speaker 2: you could change a subject. Well, I mean, I can
- 43:06Speaker 2: go to a break, but we don't have a break
- 43:08Speaker 2: to take, so I'm just gonna change the subject. Do
- 43:09Speaker 2: you want me to change the subject. This is something
- 43:12Speaker 2: that surprises me. It was like three years ago that
- 43:20Speaker 2: they announced that they're gonna make a movie about thunder
- 43:23Speaker 2: and lightning. I mean, I admit when I heard that,
- 43:26Speaker 2: I just assumed it wouldn't be very good. Didn't you
- 43:29Speaker 2: assume that it wouldn't be very good? Yeah, I mean
- 43:32Speaker 2: I just thought it wouldn't be very good. First of all,
- 43:34Speaker 2: they make a zillion movies, and somebody said they'm gonna
- 43:36Speaker 2: make a movie. You don't know if it's like a
- 43:37Speaker 2: movie that's being done by an actual big movie studio
- 43:40Speaker 2: or is this like something that somebody's gonna post on YouTube.
- 43:43Speaker 2: It isn't gonna be it's done for a film class.
- 43:45Speaker 2: I don't know. Paul says, I should call them Lightning
- 43:52Speaker 2: and Thunder people. By the way, mix up who is
- 43:55Speaker 2: who you have straight? Who is who was Claire Thunder
- 43:58Speaker 2: or was she Lightning? That you don't that part you
- 44:04Speaker 2: don't know. Lightning and Thunder was a Neil Diamond tribute band.
- 44:10Speaker 2: It was a husband and wife a couple, Mike and
- 44:12Speaker 2: Claire Sordino, who became like huge celebrities in Milwaukee. Like
- 44:18Speaker 2: I talked about this a lot when I started doing
- 44:21Speaker 2: my show and I got to be really really famous,
- 44:22Speaker 2: and I mentioned the Milwaukee has hardly any celebrities. There
- 44:25Speaker 2: was like me, There was Bou Black, a couple of
- 44:27Speaker 2: people on TV. And the thing about all of our
- 44:30Speaker 2: celebrities is that we were known anywhere else. There were
- 44:33Speaker 2: a few people that were from Milwaukee, like say l Jiaux,
- 44:36Speaker 2: who were world famous who they went on because in
- 44:38Speaker 2: their field, But by and large, our famous people were
- 44:40Speaker 2: famous only in Milwaukee, and Lightning and Thunder were two
- 44:45Speaker 2: of them. So anyway, they were this Neil Diamond private
- 44:50Speaker 2: band and they just got really really hot at the
- 44:52Speaker 2: local clubs and they play Summerfest. And to this day,
- 44:56Speaker 2: I don't remember if I've ever talked to Claire. It
- 44:58Speaker 2: was zillions of years ago. But I did talk to
- 45:00Speaker 2: Mike and it was during one of the many health
- 45:05Speaker 2: struggles that they both had. I mean, the reason this
- 45:08Speaker 2: makes for a movie is it's hard to find two
- 45:11Speaker 2: people that had more bad things happened to them and
- 45:14Speaker 2: their life just became a what soap opera isn't even
- 45:17Speaker 2: the right word. It was a matter of dealing with adversity.
- 45:21Speaker 2: She lost her leg, there was a bad automobile accident.
- 45:24Speaker 2: Then he got cancer, and it's, I guess, the stuff
- 45:30Speaker 2: that movies are made of. And they got a couple
- 45:32Speaker 2: of I don't know. They always say a list. I
- 45:35Speaker 2: don't know if these are a list stars, but they're
- 45:36Speaker 2: close Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson. Would you say, you
- 45:39Speaker 2: say that's a list or is that like a list?
- 45:41Speaker 2: I mean, when I think of a list, who's like
- 45:44Speaker 2: the biggest star of the world right now, who's really big,
- 45:47Speaker 2: like Brad Brad pitt is is he's now, He's is
- 45:50Speaker 2: he over the hill, Brad Pitt, he because he would be.
- 45:53Speaker 2: He would have been a list forever and ever. Yet,
- 45:56Speaker 2: So in other words, this isn't being done by nobody's Kate,
- 46:00Speaker 2: Kate Hudson's are pretty yeah, Kate, Tom Cruise would be.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Do you think Hugh Jackman's at the Tom Cruise level?
- 46:05Speaker 2: You think he is? Okay? Well, they made this movie
- 46:08Speaker 2: in because they're a Neil Diamond tribute banded Mike kind
- 46:12Speaker 2: of look like Neil Diamond, and she's in the band
- 46:17Speaker 2: and she's the partner, and they did Neil Diamond stuff
- 46:19Speaker 2: and they did other stuff and they made a movie
- 46:21Speaker 2: about them, and they got these two borderline A List
- 46:24Speaker 2: celebrities to do the movie. It has not been released, However,
- 46:28Speaker 2: the reviewers have seen it and the reviews that are
- 46:31Speaker 2: coming in are very very good. There's these aggregate services.
- 46:35Speaker 2: I think Rotten Tomatoes is one of them, and so on,
- 46:37Speaker 2: and like I said, the general public has not seen
- 46:39Speaker 2: it yet, but when the reviewers that have seen it
- 46:42Speaker 2: so far are giving it very, very very high marks.
- 46:47Speaker 2: The The movie is having its American premiere next week
- 46:55Speaker 2: in Milwaukee at the Oriental Theater. We are it's very
- 47:00Speaker 2: very amusing. Are they gonna put it? And now there
- 47:03Speaker 2: is actually a red carpet at the Oriental Theater, but
- 47:05Speaker 2: it's not a red carpet, if you know what I mean.
- 47:08Speaker 2: Are they gonna have like a red carpet and block
- 47:10Speaker 2: off the streets and they're gonna be people winding around
- 47:12Speaker 2: in tux sedes. We have glitterati like, are they gonna
- 47:14Speaker 2: bring Joan Rivers back from the dead and have her
- 47:16Speaker 2: stand at the thing and so on. One of the
- 47:19Speaker 2: reasons I suspect now is I just think that you
- 47:21Speaker 2: just can't move the Oriental Theater upscale. Secondly, Kate Hudson's
- 47:24Speaker 2: not coming, but Hugh jack But is, and the director
- 47:30Speaker 2: of the film, Morgan Brewer is excuse me, Craig Brewer
- 47:35Speaker 2: is also going to be here, and that will be
- 47:38Speaker 2: the American premiere. They actually had one, and I think
- 47:40Speaker 2: in London that they all went to about a week
- 47:43Speaker 2: and a half ago. The movie itself is released nationwide,
- 47:46Speaker 2: and this is important on Christmas Day. The Christmas Day
- 47:50Speaker 2: movies the studios released, these are the ones they think
- 47:52Speaker 2: are gonna be huge because that period between Christmas and
- 47:54Speaker 2: New Year's is the busiest week of the year. For movies.
- 47:57Speaker 2: The other big time to release a movie is early
- 47:59Speaker 2: on the summer, like the summer Blockbuster. Kids are out
- 48:02Speaker 2: of school and so on. But that period around Christmas,
- 48:05Speaker 2: the movies that are released then are the ones that
- 48:07Speaker 2: really really huge. And this isn't a straight to Netflix
- 48:10Speaker 2: thing or anything like that. This will be in theaters
- 48:12Speaker 2: and I obviously haven't seen it, although I am going
- 48:17Speaker 2: to the I am going to this premiere, the premier event. Yeah,
- 48:23Speaker 2: it's well, everybody's coming on to this and it's all
- 48:25Speaker 2: part of the you know, to get publicity and they
- 48:27Speaker 2: want obviously they want everybody in Milwaukee to go. It's
- 48:29Speaker 2: a good way of jump starting then will be so
- 48:31Speaker 2: you know, Hugh j Ackman's going to Cops and this,
- 48:34Speaker 2: that and the other things. So they're having the premiere and.
- 48:38Speaker 1: It just.
- 48:41Speaker 2: I've talked about this a lot. When something happens in
- 48:44Speaker 2: Milwaukee that makes national lose, it's always a tad weird
- 48:47Speaker 2: isn't the right word, but unusual. A husband and wife
- 48:52Speaker 2: that do a Neil Diamond tribute act. That's not the
- 48:56Speaker 2: normal type of celebrity, but it's exactly what you would
- 48:59Speaker 2: think that would come out of Milwaukee and it kind
- 49:01Speaker 2: of becomes embraced by the community in the same way
- 49:04Speaker 2: Bob Yuker was the biggest sports celebrity that we ever had. Well,
- 49:07Speaker 2: he wasn't any good as a player. He became a
- 49:09Speaker 2: guy that was funny. It was like a Milwaukee kind
- 49:11Speaker 2: of thing. And yeah, I like I said, I don't
- 49:15Speaker 2: know if the movie is going to be any good,
- 49:17Speaker 2: but the reviewers say that it will be. The thing
- 49:19Speaker 2: I think that's tricky is, you know, almost all movies
- 49:23Speaker 2: like this, you see the rise to the top, which
- 49:26Speaker 2: is the good thing, and then you see all the
- 49:28Speaker 2: rock and vh one used to do documentaries about rock bands.
- 49:31Speaker 2: It was all the same thing, the rise to fame,
- 49:34Speaker 2: then the collapse and tragedy and then the resurrection. No,
- 49:40Speaker 2: I don't know how they make this the happy ending thing. Claire,
- 49:44Speaker 2: it's still alive and still performs, but shenew she had
- 49:47Speaker 2: obviously health issues, and yeah, she lost her leg and
- 49:52Speaker 2: Mike passed away. And how you tell the story without
- 49:57Speaker 2: the tragic part overwhelming the good part. But obviously they
- 50:02Speaker 2: they must know what they're doing. So the movie's got
- 50:05Speaker 2: a Christmas relief. It has its American premiere, and that
- 50:08Speaker 2: just means that's when you know, I don't know how
- 50:11Speaker 2: many seats the general public are going to be able
- 50:13Speaker 2: to get to for that, but they release the things
- 50:16Speaker 2: in dribs and drabs in the upper premiere, all in
- 50:18Speaker 2: an attempt to build publicity and so on. So hopefully
- 50:21Speaker 2: it'll be as good as the advanced notices would indicate.
- 50:26Speaker 2: I want to cover this story briefly. There's been a
- 50:29Speaker 2: lot of coverage of the collapse of the Neutral project.
- 50:35Speaker 2: Neutral is this company from Madison that said it was
- 50:38Speaker 2: going to build several high rises on Water Street in Milwaukee.
- 50:40Speaker 2: The first one has become a hole in the ground
- 50:45Speaker 2: that has become an embarrassment for the city. The developers
- 50:48Speaker 2: from Madison, the lead developers twenty seven years old. The
- 50:51Speaker 2: company's name is Neutral. He evidently ran out of money
- 50:55Speaker 2: and they had already started construction. They dug the hole
- 50:58Speaker 2: in the ground and there's a crane that costs a
- 51:00Speaker 2: lot of money. The contractor was CG. Schmidt. They stopped
- 51:04Speaker 2: doing work because they said they wanted to be paid.
- 51:06Speaker 2: Neutral didn't say much of anything. Now the cranes been
- 51:09Speaker 2: taken away and the project has failed. There are now indications,
- 51:14Speaker 2: according to the business journal that Neutral is facing problems
- 51:17Speaker 2: with a couple of its other projects. Well, let me
- 51:20Speaker 2: comment on this. First of all, even in a boom time,
- 51:26Speaker 2: this project didn't make any sense. I said when it
- 51:30Speaker 2: was announced that I thought that there was zero you'll
- 51:33Speaker 2: call me saying this zero chance of it happening, zero zero.
- 51:37Speaker 2: I talked to a developer that I didn't identify, and he
- 51:39Speaker 2: said that this proposal makes sense in Dubai, but nowhere
- 51:43Speaker 2: in the United States, and certainly not in Milwaukee. They
- 51:46Speaker 2: were going to do multiple high rises and take that
- 51:49Speaker 2: entire area near the market center for the performing arts
- 51:51Speaker 2: and turn it into this massive housing zone. And they
- 51:53Speaker 2: weren't going to be small units, they were going to
- 51:55Speaker 2: be high rises. In the first one, the Edison project
- 51:58Speaker 2: was the Edison was the first one to go up,
- 52:00Speaker 2: and it never got off the ground. All they have
- 52:03Speaker 2: is the whole the part of it is the City
- 52:06Speaker 2: of Milwaukee and Mayor Chevy and lafay at Crump, they
- 52:09Speaker 2: head of DCD. These are people who've never spent a
- 52:13Speaker 2: day in their life in the private sector, and they
- 52:14Speaker 2: never knew that this project was not doable, and that
- 52:18Speaker 2: they didn't realize that the developers didn't pass the smell test.
- 52:22Speaker 2: Some guys in their twenties do become superstar developers. There
- 52:25Speaker 2: are the Donald Trumps in the world, but these guys weren't.
- 52:28Speaker 2: But secondly, and this is my key, the biggest reason
- 52:31Speaker 2: this thing has stalled is because we have finally overbuilt
- 52:35Speaker 2: the downtown Milwaukee housing market. Now. I don't think they ever,
- 52:39Speaker 2: even the best of times, could have done five buildings,
- 52:41Speaker 2: but maybe the first one would have happened. Here's what's happening.
- 52:47Speaker 2: We have several high rises recently completed that are nowhere
- 52:51Speaker 2: near filled. The Couteur, which was delayed forever, finally built
- 52:56Speaker 2: and then opened now over a year ago, remains with
- 53:02Speaker 2: massive vacancies. If you go on their website, it lists
- 53:05Speaker 2: all of the apartments that are still available for rent.
- 53:08Speaker 2: It's a zillion of them now. A lot of them
- 53:09Speaker 2: with the good views toward the lake are gone, but
- 53:13Speaker 2: the vacancy rate is high. There's a facility on Van
- 53:16Speaker 2: Buren Street that's opened called Nova. It's got lots of
- 53:20Speaker 2: units available. Whether or not there's an economic component to
- 53:25Speaker 2: this or not, I don't know. I just think, like
- 53:28Speaker 2: anything else, you finally reach the point of critical mass.
- 53:32Speaker 2: We have all these housing units that over the last
- 53:35Speaker 2: thirty years have developed in the Third Ward of Milwaukee,
- 53:38Speaker 2: all the high rises that went up and downtown on
- 53:40Speaker 2: the Lower east Side, and because they were all successful
- 53:43Speaker 2: and all did well, more and more developers did them
- 53:46Speaker 2: until you run out of people to live in all
- 53:49Speaker 2: of these places. And the fact that you've got two
- 53:52Speaker 2: buildings that are nowhere near least I suspect what happened
- 53:56Speaker 2: is that developers of Neutral could not get financing from banks, lenders,
- 54:01Speaker 2: or investors to bank rule this because they saw the
- 54:03Speaker 2: two projects that are already finished appear not to be
- 54:08Speaker 2: going very well. What I think has happened is, at
- 54:13Speaker 2: least for the immediate period, the downtown Milwaukee housing boom
- 54:18Speaker 2: has finally. I'm not going to say there's any it's
- 54:21Speaker 2: just there's no more people to come in and rent
- 54:23Speaker 2: these places. If you keep building new units, it isn't
- 54:26Speaker 2: You can't fill up simply with somebody who lives in
- 54:28Speaker 2: one Downtown Milwaukee apartment to move to another, because you
- 54:31Speaker 2: need to need new people to justify all of the
- 54:34Speaker 2: new construction that you're doing with them. And I think
- 54:36Speaker 2: it finally maxed out from the perspective of Milwaukee. That's
- 54:42Speaker 2: the end of any kind of residential growth because there's
- 54:44Speaker 2: not any other part of the city that's had residential
- 54:46Speaker 2: growth at all. The only thing that's propped up the
- 54:49Speaker 2: south side has been illegal immigrants moving in the northwest side,
- 54:55Speaker 2: and portions of the inner city have become ghost towns.
- 54:58Speaker 2: But there's been this trend that you've seen in a
- 55:00Speaker 2: lot of places in the United States that started with
- 55:02Speaker 2: the millennials they have and then empty nester baby boomers
- 55:06Speaker 2: people living in downtowns. What's happened in some of those
- 55:09Speaker 2: cities is the cities have gone to hell San Francisco, Seattle,
- 55:13Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and people are moving out. We haven't had
- 55:16Speaker 2: the same component of going to hell in Milwaukee. I
- 55:18Speaker 2: think that this is more a case of it just
- 55:21Speaker 2: finally got overbuilt. I will be surprised if any major
- 55:27Speaker 2: new project that's primarily residential and I said major, I
- 55:31Speaker 2: don't mean fifteen twenty units major happens in the next
- 55:38Speaker 2: several years. So I think that this project here neutral
- 55:41Speaker 2: is the canary in the coalman A Milwaukee says it's
- 55:43Speaker 2: looking for a new developer. I don't know they're going
- 55:45Speaker 2: to find a developer I don't know anything's going to
- 55:47Speaker 2: happen there for quite some time. The first thing that
- 55:50Speaker 2: they can try to sue this developer, but you can't
- 55:52Speaker 2: get blood out of a turna van. If this company
- 55:55Speaker 2: was simply a guy who was in over his head
- 55:57Speaker 2: who eat a couple of projects in Madison, things were
- 55:59Speaker 2: going well, so we know things. He can create the
- 56:02Speaker 2: World Trade Center of Milwaukee here and did it after
- 56:06Speaker 2: all the money was there to be to be made.
- 56:13Speaker 2: Little story to cover here. There's a piece in the
- 56:15Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal on the takeover of CBS News by
- 56:19Speaker 2: Barry Weiss. For those of you who haven't been following
- 56:21Speaker 2: this closely, Barry Weiss was a reporter for the Wall
- 56:24Speaker 2: Street Journal in the New York Times. Left of center,
- 56:28Speaker 2: but she believed strongly in freedom of expression. And when
- 56:32Speaker 2: she was at the New York Times, she was the
- 56:33Speaker 2: op ed editor. She was the person in charge of
- 56:36Speaker 2: getting putting in columns that weren't written by columns for
- 56:40Speaker 2: the paper. And she printed it, and she greenlight greenlit
- 56:43Speaker 2: a column by senator from Arkansas might have been Cotton
- 56:47Speaker 2: that there was just an eternal objection to and there
- 56:49Speaker 2: was a huge falling out and the staff of The
- 56:52Speaker 2: New York Time. Couldn't Times, couldn't stand that any conservative
- 56:55Speaker 2: voice was in that paper at all. Since being forced
- 56:59Speaker 2: out of The New York Times, Berry Weiss is not
- 57:00Speaker 2: a podcast and other things in which she's drawn attention
- 57:04Speaker 2: to leftist media bias. She's becoming one of the queens
- 57:08Speaker 2: of the anti woke movement. CBS News was bought by Paramount.
- 57:14Speaker 2: Paramount was taken over by David Ellison, the son of
- 57:16Speaker 2: Larry Ellison of Oracle. David Ellison is not a leftist,
- 57:20Speaker 2: and he realizes that the only way to make CBS
- 57:22Speaker 2: News or any of these networks viable is to get
- 57:25Speaker 2: rid of the leftist bias. CBS News has some things
- 57:29Speaker 2: going for it, sixty Minutes and a few other brands
- 57:31Speaker 2: that have some value, but it and all of the
- 57:34Speaker 2: other networks have been killing themselves by being so overtly biased.
- 57:38Speaker 2: So Berry Weiss was brought in with a mission of
- 57:41Speaker 2: fixing this. Now I've said, I think it's very hard
- 57:45Speaker 2: to fix the mainstream media. The problem with the mainstream
- 57:49Speaker 2: media is the people who work in the mainstream media.
- 57:51Speaker 2: To simply tell them not to be biased, it's as
- 57:54Speaker 2: hard as telling somebody who eats too much. To stop
- 57:56Speaker 2: eating too much. It's like telling somebody hooked unfeded all
- 58:00Speaker 2: to stop using fentanyl. Should I come up with more examples?
- 58:02Speaker 2: Or as the point already clear? Well, she's in there,
- 58:06Speaker 2: and according to the story on the Wall Street Journal,
- 58:10Speaker 2: she told her colleagues that quote, I want to blow
- 58:14Speaker 2: this place up. Now, this will be interesting to watch.
- 58:18Speaker 2: Can you take something as leftist as CBS News and
- 58:22Speaker 2: remake it into a viable, fair and balanced news organization? Now?
- 58:27Speaker 2: If they can, I think they'll be successful. Whether or
- 58:30Speaker 2: not she can succeed in doing it or not is
- 58:32Speaker 2: another question. Let me quote from the Wall Street Journal
- 58:35Speaker 2: piece for a sense of Barry Weiss's approach to leading
- 58:38Speaker 2: CBS News in her first weeks on the job. Consider
- 58:40Speaker 2: a phrase the new editor in chief has used at
- 58:43Speaker 2: are as a rallying cry in meetings with colleagues. I
- 58:45Speaker 2: want to blow this place up. Wis the former New
- 58:48Speaker 2: York Times. I want to correct that, I want to
- 58:51Speaker 2: blow this up. She didn't say place blow this up?
- 58:54Speaker 2: Weis The former New York Times columnst turned anti woke crusader,
- 58:57Speaker 2: is working to overhaul the organization's evening news program. Counter
- 59:01Speaker 2: what she sees as a left leading bias in legacy
- 59:04Speaker 2: media and make the newsroom operate more efficients efficiently. She
- 59:08Speaker 2: has been given a mandate for change by David Ellison,
- 59:10Speaker 2: the new owner of CBS parent company, Paramount, which bought
- 59:14Speaker 2: her news and opinion platform, The Free Press for one
- 59:17Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars. At the time of her appointment.
- 59:20Speaker 2: Ellison said he capped Weis to bring CBS news to
- 59:23Speaker 2: brings to CBS quote news that reflects reality and journalism
- 59:28Speaker 2: that doesn't seek to demonize but seeks to understand. Weiss
- 59:32Speaker 2: is operating with eInsight, with Ellison's full backing. Now the
- 59:36Speaker 2: story goes on and I do 'tenough time to dive
- 59:37Speaker 2: into it in more depth than that. As I said,
- 59:41Speaker 2: I'm skeptical that this can work. However, what there are
- 59:47Speaker 2: here are deep pockets. The owner of Paramount, David Ellison,
- 59:52Speaker 2: his dad Larry Ellison, just fell from two to three,
- 59:54Speaker 2: is the third richest person in the world. Barry Weiss
- 59:58Speaker 2: herself sold her company, Free Press for one hundred and
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: fifty million. So you have people who have very very
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: deep pockets here to ride out whatever internal objection that
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: there is and to be in this for the long haul.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: If they are successful in turning CBS News into a
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: credible news organization, I think that they will then make
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: large amounts of money. But that if the challenge of
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: taking a huge leftist news see with Fox News when
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: they put it on the air, it was easier to
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: do because anybody who wasn't a died in the ideo
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: ideological liberal was hired by Fox, but they got all
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: of them. Secondly, Fox didn't take the on EIR News
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: product and try to do much with it. It simply
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: put on all these talk shows that were hosted by
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: conservatives that were out at night, and they tried, like
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: the Dickens, especially when Roger Rayles was there, to keep
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: the bias out of the news programs. But to do
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: it with the other large news organizations in a field
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: in which ninety percent of the people who go into
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: it are leftists is a really hard thing to do.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: It's like taking a public school and trying to make
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: it not liberal. You're constantly fighting all of the leftist
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: teachers who want to teach leftism in the classroom. Which
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: she has going for her at CBS is this Her
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: owner is on her side, Her owner hand picked her
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: she's got a lot of money herself. And the people
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: who work at CBS are in a field in which
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: the jobs are being slashed right and left. So if
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: they want to keep their jobs, they don't have the
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: ability to be as arrogant as people who had a
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: greater amount of job security. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. We're releasing the podcast
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: on Friday, and we're rolling into the teel end of
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving weekend. I always contend that the worst day
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: of the year is this coming Sunday. Now, if you
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: don't have to travel, you're not doing anything. What do
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: you care? But it was conceint it's a perfect storm.
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: First of all, the airports and everything else are clogged
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: because people and the Thanksgiving weekend not on the Monday,
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: but they all come home on the Sunday. The airports
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: are always a mess. It's filled with people because it's
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: the end of November. The weather is often crappy, which
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: creates delays everywhere, and for people who want to drive
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: in Wisconsin, it's the end of deer hunting. See, you've
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: got all of these people that are coming back on
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: the roads, coming back from deer hunting, and you have
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: people that are traveling in Hopefully we'll get through all
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: of it. I'm way back when I had to go
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: to Washington, d C. For a meeting. This is in
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: the nineties, and the meeting was starting the Sunday night
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: of the end of Thanksgiving weekend. It's a Monday on
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: Tuesday meeting. And I remember that we were flying out
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: of Milwaukee with this is mid This is how far
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: back it was. Midwest Express or it might have been
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Midwest Airlines then was still around. So we had a
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: NonStop to New York and we landed in New York.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: It was at it was at National I don't think that.
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: I don't think the name had been changed yet to Reagan.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: That's how far back it was. And we landed and
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: it was a driving rainstorm at Washington, and this is
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: you know, people going back to Washington, and any Sunday
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: night is huge because they're all coming back for government
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: on Monday and so on. We got to the airport
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: and it was just wall the wall people. Everybody's like,
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: we're in winter clothes and all this stuff. And this
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: is before there's uber and you step outside and you
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: need a ride and it was just pouring down rain.
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: And the other stories that I have where we used
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: to some friends of mine and I used to have
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: like a get together every Thanksgiving weekend. You come back
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: on Sunday and fighting the traffic of all of the
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: deer hunters. The I don't know if they've changed this yet,
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: but the stretch of the interstate between Toma and Man
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: that's for both. It's ninety and ninety four together. So
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: not only do you have two interstates that are combined together,
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: you've got all these people that are sort of coming
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: from the north and heading back towards southeastern Wisconsin and
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: toward Chicago. Ede free would just stop. And it's happened
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: for years and years and years. So if you're not
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: traveling on Sunday, you're probably better off. That's it for
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