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LNC's Relationship With Star Trek: It's Complicated · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Larger Drunk Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm arial cast and with me is always this is
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  Speaker 1: the delightful common Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Something spooky's going down now. Anything can happen on Halloween,
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  Speaker 2: even in August.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not even like half Aween.
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  Speaker 2: It's listen Ariel. Like three weeks ago, I was in
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  Speaker 2: the mall and bed Bath and beyond had like an
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  Speaker 2: entire Halloween display up in the front. It's been Halloween
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  Speaker 2: for a hot minute.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like starting January first, people start looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to Halloween again, like I I love. We've talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: I love pumpkin patches and fall leaves and apple cider.
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  Speaker 1: But uh time it. Life is too short to wish
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  Speaker 1: it away. So I enjoy every hot, sweltery sound a
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  Speaker 1: day in Atlanta, or I try to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't someone who is currently sitting in
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  Speaker 2: an unair conditioned office, I will tell you I do
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  Speaker 2: not like those days.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually, I'm going to figure out a solution for you.
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  Speaker 1: My problem solving brain is not letting this one quit.
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  Speaker 2: It'll It'll just be a bucket full of ice that
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  Speaker 2: I'll be sitting in, I guess. But uh yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: I am one of those people where I could be
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  Speaker 2: happy with Halloween every single week. I'm like the character
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  Speaker 2: from Mean Girls, like if I, if I could have
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  Speaker 2: a wish, should be for every day to be Halloween
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  Speaker 2: and also world peace. Maybe world peace should come first.
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  Speaker 1: You like you, like you like sexy, skimpy outfits, then.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no denying it. So we have a
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  Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff on our lineup this week. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: not that much of it is actually directly from Comic Con,
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  Speaker 2: but we will have some comic Con news as well.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get into any of that, we have
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  Speaker 2: our question, and this week, Ariel is the one doing
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  Speaker 2: the asking.
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  Speaker 1: I am so I know that you know you recommend
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  Speaker 1: things to me, argument things to you. People. Geeky people
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  Speaker 1: love to share their loves and so there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of recommendations that happen and they don't always hit and
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, But what is the geek recommendation? It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to be for me. It can't be for me
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  Speaker 1: that you were given that has been the biggest miss
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  Speaker 1: for you, like the one that just did not land
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say Bowl Star Galactica, the reboot series
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  Speaker 2: would be mine. And obviously, I mean it's been years
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  Speaker 2: and years and years since that was thing, But to
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  Speaker 2: this day, I think of that as the thing that
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  Speaker 2: a large number of my friends were totally into that
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  Speaker 2: I just could not like even when I tried getting
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  Speaker 2: into it, which was years after the fact, like the
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  Speaker 2: series had concluded by the time I tried to get
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  Speaker 2: into it, it just wasn't happening. So I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 2: Battlestar Galactica a close follow up with Bribby Doctor Who,
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  Speaker 2: which I've given multiple tries to, but it just again,
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  Speaker 2: like even the episodes I liked, I just kind of
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  Speaker 2: liked them. It never was a thing where it made
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  Speaker 2: me want to see the next episode. It was more
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  Speaker 2: like that encapsulated story I enjoyed before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I totally get that. My long and like
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  Speaker 1: Battlestar Galactica took a while for me to get into,
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  Speaker 1: Like I tried watching it, but I had seen the
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  Speaker 1: old version, right, and that's what I was expecting, And
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  Speaker 1: it's not that at all, there are some same character,
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  Speaker 1: it's some similar concepts here and there, but it's not Wow,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not the same thing at all. So I
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  Speaker 1: had to like take some time and divorce myself from it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still a hard watch Doctor who I think
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  Speaker 1: I grew up with, and that's why I love it.
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  Speaker 1: But there are definitely episodes where I'm like day, Like
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  Speaker 1: I had my favorite seasons and then I have seasons
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  Speaker 1: that I don't really care for, but I watch out
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  Speaker 1: of my completionist brain. For me, like my long standing
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  Speaker 1: one is Firefly, because all of my friends loved Firefly.
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  Speaker 1: They all were like, oh, you have to watch Firefly.
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  Speaker 1: If you like Star Trek, you're gonna like Firefly. And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. Maybe that's why my partner and I are
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  Speaker 1: such that's such a good team is because he also
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  Speaker 1: does not like Firefly. And the acting is fine, the
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  Speaker 1: stories are okay. None of it really grabbed me. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't find any of the characters incredibly like well, except
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  Speaker 1: for like Wash and Book, they were okay. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I ended up watching the Heart of Gold episode, which
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  Speaker 1: is not the strongest episode at all. Every time I
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  Speaker 1: turned it on, it was that episode and so I
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  Speaker 1: was burnt out on it before I even got to
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  Speaker 1: watch the whole series, and by the time I watched it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't understand what the deal is, but
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  Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people do love it,
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  Speaker 1: and that's great. I also felt that way about The Expanse,
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  Speaker 1: like I just there were too many characters. I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get into it, and I feel sad about that because
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  Speaker 1: I know it's such a cool world, but I just
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  Speaker 1: can't dig in enough to get there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I never never got into the Expanse. I do
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  Speaker 2: like Firefly, I would not put myself at the top
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  Speaker 2: of the fan list there because, let me tell y'all,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy for us to forget now. But
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  Speaker 2: back in the day, the fandom known as the Brown Coats,
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  Speaker 2: they were like they were off putting because they liked it.
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  Speaker 2: So Like, I think we've talked about this before, how
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  Speaker 2: sometimes fandoms can become so rabid that it turns you
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  Speaker 2: off of something just from people being too pushy about it. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with the merits of the
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  Speaker 2: material itself. It's that the fan base comes across as obnoxious,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what turns you off from the thing, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, certainly like Star Wars fandom could be that way.
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek fandom has been that way in the past,
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's not something that's just for Joss Whedon apologists,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly Joss Wheton apologists have made it an art form. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I can see that. I like, there's lots of other
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  Speaker 2: things I could add to this list. Practically any anime
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  Speaker 2: series you can think of falls into this because I
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  Speaker 2: just can't get into anime. Yeah, I just can't. I've tried. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and there's not a there's not a single anime series
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  Speaker 2: I've tried to watch that I liked.
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  Speaker 1: There are a couple that I have liked, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely like I like try Gun and I like
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  Speaker 1: Neon Genesis Evangelian, but but it is still can I
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  Speaker 1: tell you the full story now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, yeah, I like whenever whenever I have to
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  Speaker 2: watch a two hour long explainer video to kind of
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  Speaker 2: get a grasp on what the heck is happening, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm okay just skipping this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like Studio Ghibli because that's yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I like, I've only seen a couple of
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  Speaker 2: the movies from Studio Ghibli, but the ones I've seen
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  Speaker 2: I've liked, so those, those are slightly different. I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: more like anime series. Like my partner Becca, she's big
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  Speaker 2: on things like she Loved Inuyasha and Full Metal Alchemist
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  Speaker 2: and Death Note and Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Shamploo, and
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't get into any of those.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Cowboy Bebop has whether he get into the
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  Speaker 1: story or not, it has arguably one of the most
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  Speaker 1: fun soundtracks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I love the I love the score to Cowboy Bebop,
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  Speaker 2: like I actually I think I even have a vinyl
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  Speaker 2: album of it. I love the music. I just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get into the series. So yeah. But also like American
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  Speaker 2: Horror Story, it's another good example. Like I've I watched
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  Speaker 2: all of season one and hated it, and I got
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  Speaker 2: a little bit into season two and noped out, not
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  Speaker 2: because of anything disturbing, but just because I found it
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  Speaker 2: so exhausting. I felt like it was a kitchen sink
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  Speaker 2: approach to horror, where every single type of horror was
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  Speaker 2: being squeezed into a single season, and I just kept thinking,
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  Speaker 2: like this is absurd, Like I like a good psychological horror.
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  Speaker 2: I like a good supernatural horror. I like a good
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  Speaker 2: medical horror. I like a good religious horror. They don't
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  Speaker 2: all need to be in the same episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're all lovely flavors of skittles, but you
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  Speaker 1: put them all in your mouth at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: And it tastes like licorice, which is junk. Licorice is junk.
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  Speaker 1: I did try to leave out of this. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when you live with a partner, you end up watching
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that the other person likes it
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  Speaker 1: they don't. And there have been several things that Tony
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  Speaker 1: has been like, oh, you should watch this, and I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember what they are. They made such an impact
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  Speaker 1: on me, but it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I didn't really think of American Horror Story
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  Speaker 2: as a big one for this because, honestly, not that
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  Speaker 2: many people recommended it to me. I just I just
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  Speaker 2: know people who have watched it and who have at
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  Speaker 2: least enjoyed seasons of that show, and I just have
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  Speaker 2: to say, like, there's season concepts that I find really intriguing,
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  Speaker 2: but I have there's not a single one that I've
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  Speaker 2: watched that I liked so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like I also, so that would be
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  Speaker 1: like a self recommendation that didn't hit. I have plenty
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  Speaker 1: of those where I'm so excited for about it, for it,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm like, ah, this just it's not It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't for me. Yeah, Like the movie Sorry to Bother You,
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  Speaker 1: really interesting, well done, artsy movie.
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  Speaker 2: That just.
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  Speaker 1: I logically I get the concept and I like it,
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  Speaker 1: which is why I was like, Oh, I'm gonna love
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  Speaker 1: this movie. But execution wise, it was so weird, Like
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  Speaker 1: I spent the entire movie trying and wanting to like
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  Speaker 1: it and then just being like, I am not actually
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  Speaker 1: getting enjoyment from this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get it. Well, let us move
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  Speaker 2: on from the things that ended up being misfires to
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  Speaker 2: things that we watched since the last time we recorded.
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  Speaker 2: So Ariel, what have you been watching?
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  Speaker 1: Very very little? Some drop out stuff. This week's game
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  Speaker 1: Changer made me tear up. It was delightful and sweet.
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  Speaker 1: I'm continuing through the Love Death Robots Anthology, or as
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  Speaker 1: it should be more aptly named, the Love People's Junk
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  Speaker 1: and Robots Anthology, and I'm really just watching task Master.
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  Speaker 1: I've been doing some things that are great for my
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  Speaker 1: health the past couple of weeks, but have meant that
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  Speaker 1: I'm super tired and task Master is the right level
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  Speaker 1: of funny. But don't have to think about it too
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  Speaker 1: hard to keep my attention right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you don't. You don't have to be super
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  Speaker 2: duper engaged in order to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I watched the Fantastic Four movie. I went and saw
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  Speaker 2: it on my lonesome, and I enjoyed it. I think
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it more than Thunderbolts, and I like Thunderbolts.
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  Speaker 2: I liked this one too, Like it's the performance has
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  Speaker 2: really brought it together for me. I enjoyed that. I
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's among the best of Marvel, but
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  Speaker 2: it's in the top half. Like it's it's higher up
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  Speaker 2: than the middle.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to say, because like saying it's not
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  Speaker 1: the best of Marvel has been where we're at for
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  Speaker 1: where we been at for a good while now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like again, top of the list for
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  Speaker 2: me still is Winter Soldier. That's like my favorite Marvel movie.
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  Speaker 2: This is probably somewhere along the line of maybe a
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  Speaker 2: little ahead of shang Chi, which I also liked. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a fun movie. It
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  Speaker 2: is refreshing to go see a Marvel movie where you
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  Speaker 2: do not need to have seen any other Marvel property
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  Speaker 2: in order to understand what the heck is going on,
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  Speaker 2: because there is no connection to anything else, So that
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  Speaker 2: I think is very helpful. I also watched part of
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  Speaker 2: the first episode of The Institute. I had planned to
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  Speaker 2: go back and watch the rest of it, but I
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  Speaker 2: never got around to it.
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  Speaker 1: This is the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's also the subject matter. It's just it's
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  Speaker 2: super dark. It's I mean, it's based off a Stephen
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  Speaker 2: King story or Steve King novel, so there you go.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, this is the one where it's kids who
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  Speaker 2: have been essentially kidnapped and put into a secret institution
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  Speaker 2: because the kids have demonstrated uh, special psychic abilities like
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  Speaker 2: telekinesis or telepathy, and so they're essentially being trained up
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  Speaker 2: to be tools of the military industrial complex and and
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, it is such a story. Does not start
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  Speaker 2: off all happy, shiny, fuzzy, and it gets worse. So
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  Speaker 2: so it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Not it's not new Mutants goes into Professor X's university, for.
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  Speaker 2: It would be if Professor X first killed all of
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  Speaker 2: the new Mutants family so that there'd be no one
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  Speaker 2: to take them back and then and then imprisoned them
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  Speaker 2: in his special school. Then it would be the same. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I it only the first episode is available to me
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  Speaker 2: for free because it was just like an Amazon Prime thing.
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  Speaker 2: I do not think I'll be spending the money to
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  Speaker 2: watch the rest of it. I can. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: well made, and I think people who are fans of
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff are going to get a lot
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  Speaker 2: out of it. I just don't think it's the right
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  Speaker 2: thing for me right now.
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  Speaker 1: Is it darker than The Boys?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, that's a hard question to answer, because The Boys
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  Speaker 2: is real dark too. It's less questions, it's less violent,
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  Speaker 2: you know. It's it's not as because The Boys goes
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  Speaker 2: into like over the top it's like invincible, right. You
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  Speaker 2: get these over the top graphic violent scenes in The Boys.
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  Speaker 2: That's not really what the Institute's about. It's more like
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  Speaker 2: how horrifying this whole concept is about these children who
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  Speaker 2: have had their entire lives turned upside down and their
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  Speaker 2: family slaughtered so that they can be turned into telepathic
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  Speaker 2: assassins or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Fun. You know what though, it's interesting because, like
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  Speaker 1: I thought for sure all of Institute. Is it an
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  Speaker 1: HBO show?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think No, No, it's not no, because it's
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  Speaker 2: on Prime, so it's got to be. No, it's I
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  Speaker 2: think it's MGM Plus Okay, because because it's it's one
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  Speaker 2: of the many services I otherwise do not have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I ran into that too, this like past
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  Speaker 1: week with Nautilus, because I thought that that was going
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  Speaker 1: to be an Amazon Prime series, But apparently it's an
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  Speaker 1: AMC Plus series Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And this one's the one about like Nemo. Yeah, is
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  Speaker 2: in like twenty thousand Leagues under the Sea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Disney, the Disney We talked about it a
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  Speaker 1: while back, the Disney show that got canceled by Disney
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  Speaker 1: and then picked up by I thought Amazon, but apparently not.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha y again, Like this is just where we're at now,
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  Speaker 2: where the streaming landscape is so convoluted and complicated that
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  Speaker 2: it's impossible to be able to keep up with everything
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  Speaker 2: unless you just missed the money banks and can subscribe
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  Speaker 2: to every single service.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that's they'll figure Hopefully they'll figure
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 2: Either they'll figure it out or everyone will go bankrupt.
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  Speaker 1: And then we will be back to Punch and Judy
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  Speaker 1: shows on street corners, which.
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  Speaker 2: Could be yep, well, how about we we transition over
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  Speaker 2: to thirty seconds or less? Yes, let's okay, I believe
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  Speaker 2: I go first. Well, then, Comic Con was last weekend
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  Speaker 2: and George Lucas was there for the first time. He
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: wasn't there to talk Star Wars or Indiana Jones or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that, but rather to talk about a museum
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  Speaker 2: called the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, which is slated
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  Speaker 2: to open next year. The museum will focus on narrative
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: formats like comic books, movies, television, and other storytelling methods,
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  Speaker 2: including stuff from ancient mythology, which sounds pretty nifty.
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  Speaker 1: Also, at San Diego Comic Con twenty twenty five, we
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  Speaker 1: got news about Coyote Versus Acme. If you don't remember,
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  Speaker 1: that was the John Cena Coyote Roadrunner movie that got
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  Speaker 1: shelved when Zaslov took over an HBO in a money
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  Speaker 1: saving effort. While fans have rallied and it is coming
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  Speaker 1: back and it is going to get released in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. I wish that the Supergirl movie had gotten
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  Speaker 1: a release instead, because that's more interesting. To me, but
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  Speaker 1: I understand why not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there were some notable absences from Comic Con this year.
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  Speaker 2: The Marvel Cinemac universe sat this one out, and DC
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: really only promoted the upcoming season two of Peacemaker. We
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: did get that trailer for Aztec Batman, but we talked
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  Speaker 2: about that last week, and Marvel Comics will have its
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  Speaker 2: own end game event. But for the ultimate series.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Apparently we're getting a Rick and Morty spin off dealing
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  Speaker 1: with the president from Rick and Morty, who sometimes is
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  Speaker 1: friend and sometimes is foe. Included in the cast will
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  Speaker 1: also be Stephanie Miatriz and Jim Rash, so very funny
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  Speaker 1: voice cast. I don't really have any opinion on this
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  Speaker 1: because Ricky Morty is one of those shows that was
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  Speaker 1: a miss for me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, some more Comic Con news in the actual world
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  Speaker 2: of comic books, the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles will be
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: facing off against Godzilla in an upcoming comic and Captain
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  Speaker 2: America will put a Shields integrity to the test as
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: he faces off against a Xeno morph. Between those two,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I'd likely pick up the TMNT issues, particularly now that
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  Speaker 2: Freddi Williams's voice to take over art starting in December.
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  Speaker 1: Also, apparently there is a Johnny Depp Ridley Scott weird
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  Speaker 1: comic coming out, But the trailer is it feels like
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a twenty four hour film festival.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: It's from It's Hyde, So the premise of that is
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that mister Hyde has suppressed Doctor Jekyl effectively. Doctor Jekyl
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: is dead and mister Hyde is now running amok and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: through the London sewers and committing atrocities on people. You know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: fun stuff fun.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: So it's just real weird sag after It and Nielsen
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: have renewed their contract for streaming metrics, which is great.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Nielsen kind of helps bridge the gap between streaming network
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: viewers and the union to make sure that the actors
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: are getting compensated properly for their work, which is part
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of what all of the strikes last year were for,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to make sure that people were getting fairly comments. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: that's great news.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: We know we've got a couple of Avengers films and
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a Spider Man movie on the way, but what else
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: is in store for the future of the MCU. Well,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: according to Variety, the anticipated X Men movie will take
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: a while to get here. Marvel does have July twenty third,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, reserved for a film release, but where
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: it is X Men ain't it scuttle, but suggests it
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: could potentially beat Black Panther three, Well what about Blade? Shh,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: don't you worry your pretty little head about that. It's
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: none of your concern, but it is.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It is my concern.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to tell you there's no information about whin
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Blade if, if it does become a real thing, when
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that will be.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: This feels like the Duke Nukeom of the Marvel universe.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It really is is Duke Nukem Forever, but done as
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: a movie. Here's the thing is that is that, no
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: matter how good it is, it's not going to live
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: up to what people are hoping it'll be after all
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the delays. That's the I mean, it's kind of just
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: in a no win scenario at this point.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Which is so sad because I was so excited for
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it at the beginning. I liked Blade by the original.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I'm still hopeful it will be good. I'm just worried
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: that people will be like, well, that wasn't worth the wait,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: no matter how good it is, right, Like, there's going
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to be some jerkfaces like that. Okay, Well, now that
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: we're done with thirty seconds or less, it's time to
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: move on to our segment that has no good name,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: but we call it stuff that doesn't fit.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: A parentheses, stuff that sometimes does kind of fit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's like debatable. Typically it's stuff that's on
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the cusp. But first up, we have a rom com
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: called Eternity that stars Miles Teller and Elizabeth Olsen. This
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: trailer was cute.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. A guy passes away and gets reunited with
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: his wife, who has also passed away. Uh, and then
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the quirky antics is that her previous husband, who had
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: passed away, also gets reunited with her, and so then
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: she kind of has to choose between the two husbands
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that she had, both of whom she loved.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she has to choose which which one? Which one
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: does she spend Eternity with?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's just I mean, it's going to be
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: sad for somebody maybe probably possibly, but like the trailer
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is an absolute delight to watch.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminded me of a comedy that came out
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: years ago called Defending Your Life, which is also set
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in like in like a bureaucratic afterlife where you're in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: sort of a waiting area while while decisions are made
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: as to where you will spend you know, your afterlife,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: or if you'll be sent back to Earth to be
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: reincarnated to try again. That's the premise of defending your life.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Eternity comes out in November, and yeah, it
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: looks cute. I'll probably watch this once it's on streaming.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Me too. Like, I don't watch a
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: lot of things that I know are going to make
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: me cry, but this one feels like it will be
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: happy and fun enough that I can deal with the tears.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely looks like it's a good mixture of
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: sweet and silly as well, like the And it looks
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: like there's some decent chemistry there between Miles Teller and
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Olsen. So I am I'm encouraged by this trailer.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Speaking of things that might be bittersweet, we also got
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a trailer for Blue Moon, which is a Rogers and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Heart story.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rogers and Heart slash Rogers and Hammerstein. So, if
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you are unfamiliar with the history of musical theater, back
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in like the twenties, thirties and early forties, there was
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: this pair of writer slash composer where you have Laurence
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Hart who was the lyricist, and Richard Rogers who was
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the composer, kind of pair up and they did a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: whole bunch of different musicals. Laurence Heart is the lyricist
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: behind like really notable songs like Blue Moon or My
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Funny Valentine where the lady is a tramp. And the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: movie is about the last part of Laurence Heart's life,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: so this is like a biopic kind of thing of
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a slice of Laurence Heart is when Rogers has found
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: a new professional partner in Oscar Hammerstein the second so
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: you get Rogers and Hammerstein and they've created Oklahoma, which
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I think was like their second project, and Heart is
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: kind of struggling with the fact that he is no
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: longer part of this partnership and that the new partnership
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: looks like it's working really well. So he's kind of
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: wrestling with self doubt, just like in real life. In
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the movie, he's struggling with alcoholism. But despite these very
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: heavy kind of topics, the film itself looks like it
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: has a lot of bittersweet, comedic elements to it that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: really appealed to me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like I could tell that the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: story was sad, but it was the trailer is done
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in such a charming way that you want to go
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: on that journey.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Ethan Hawk is playing the part of Lauren's Heart,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and I seriously didn't Like I could recognize his face,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: but it couldn't place it because he looks so different.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Same. Yeah, yeah, this I will watch this one, Yeah
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: for sure, And like this is what this is one
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: of the ones that could have fit into geeky because
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I know we have you know, delightful listeners who are
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: also musical theater nerds like us.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Andrew Scott is playing Rogers, so Moriarty from
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Sherlock is Rogers. It's The movie is set in nineteen
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: forty three, which, if you know your history, that's also
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the same year that Heart passed away. His story is
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: a pretty tragic one, especially towards the end of his life,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: mostly due to the alcoholism, but also due to he
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: lost his mother, and he and his mother were like
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you could argue there was a codependent relationship there, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: whatever the fact, you know, he was never the same
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: after his mother passed away. So yeah, definitely looks like
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a romantic, sad but funny treatment of Heart's life. And yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the trailer is fantastic. I've also heard that I think
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Andrew Scott won an award at a film festival for
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: his portrayal of Richard Rogers. That's cool.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, you know. I like these these
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: slice of life movies. I like that they're coming back.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You know, we've had years of big budget blockbusters, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I even know that during like one Hot Ones interview,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it was Matt Damon who was like, yeah, the like
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the cider House Rules kind of Dead Poets Society kind
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: of movies are by the wayside. Nobody wants to pay
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: for a Slice of life movie anymore. But I'm glad
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that they're kind of making a comeback.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Same, yeah, I think. I think also the economics of
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: movie making have reached a point where it does make
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: sense to go back to smaller budget films because you
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: have more of a chance of making your money back.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You know, we've seen so many big budget films kind
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: of of not necessarily bomb, but failed to perform to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the standards that we saw pre COVID, like, and there
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: are a lot of different factors that play into that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's one thing. I think it's lots
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: of things, including like the studios just trying to churn
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: out stuff at a crazy rate in an effort to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: keep the money train going. But yeah, I like seeing
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: these kinds of projects beyond just horror. Like horror has
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: always been this way where it's always been like, oh, well,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: let's make a low to mid budget horror movie. They're
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: cheap and they're relatively easy to do, and they always
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: make money. It's nice to see other genres get that
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: treatment too.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I you know, I'm hopeful. I know that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I know that many people say that entertainment is changing
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: because attention spans are going away, and everybody likes like
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the short form media that you get on so short
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: form entertainment you get on social media. Vertical shorts are
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a huge thing. I see auditions for lately which are
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like the little soap operas but for TikTok, But they
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: are not my thing, you know. But like a lot
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of them are romance novelly, and that's also hasn't been
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: my thing. But I really hope that this ushers in
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: just like this renaissance of creativity and storytelling, because you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: if you're working with smaller budgets, but you want to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: get people's attention, like Shoot for the Fences. I'm I'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that we get some cool new stuff out
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of this. I'm you know, I don't know if that's
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a pipe dream, but.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I will hold out hope as well. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I hate knowing about the shorts thing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry I did that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Since I'm not on since I'm not on social anymore,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: all of that is news to me, and I hate it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: You know, to each their own. We got a trailer
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: for a not too dope a story called Goat.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's an animated film. It's done by the same
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: team that did the Spider Verse movies and K Pop
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Demon Hunters, and it is set in the world of
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: talking animals similar to Zootobia, you know, like kind of
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: anthropomorphic animals, and the main character is a goat named
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Will Harris who wants to be a professional roar ball player.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Roarer Ball is just basketball, but animals play it and
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: it looks cute. It's got a good voice cast too.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: There's like folks like David Harbor, Patton Oswalt, Nick Kroll,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Gabrielle Union.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Caleb mcgloughlin, place, the place, the main character. Sorry I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: jumped on you. Who does Caleb McLoughlin So, oh, okay,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you're like, I don't know who he is. He played
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: one of the twins in Blackish and was also a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: voice actor in Our Caine. He's a very good actor
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see him doing more stuff.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: So that's great. Yeah, I know Jennifer Hudsonson as well.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Nicola Coughlin, who Ariel will get to know better when
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: she makes her way back through the Taskmaster playlist and
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: hits her episode.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like I know who Nicola. I know who
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Nicola Coughlin is.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: What you watch Dairy Girls.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen some Dairy Girls, but I also watch Bridgerton.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: She's like one of the main characters in that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I forgot that she's in that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That was seen some Dairy Girls.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: That was after I dropped off the face of the planet.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: So Goat comes out February thirteenth next year. It looks cute.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know that it's my kind of thing. I'm
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: not big into the sports, Like I never saw Space Jam.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So it's this isn't a new thing for me. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: just never got into those kind of movies.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I'd say, Acne Versus Coyote feels a lot more space
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: jam than this does. This. This is basketball, and I'm
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: not a basketball fan either, but I wasn't a soccer
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: fan and I loved I love Ted Lasso And this
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: is also I guess full contact MMA level basketball called
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: roar ball.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, fine, still not for me, all right. Next up,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: we also got a trailer, or really a teaser. It's
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: not a trailer for a documentary about Francis Ford Coppola's
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: quest to make Megalopolis. It's called Mega doc It is
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: coming soon. That's about all we can say about it
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: other than Francis Ford Coppola justifies the fact that he
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: spent one hundred and twenty million dollars of his own
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: money to make the movie because he thought it would
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: be quote fun, and.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: He said that. He said that in the trailer. Nobody
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: working on it knew how weird the movie was going
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to be, except for maybe him. I I feel like
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that I don't want to, I don't want to say
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: disparaging things, but my first and I'm sure this is
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: not it like, it is such a bizarre movie that
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a documentary on how it got made will
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: be interesting. But in my brain, it's like, is this
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: is this trying to pivot Megaopolis into like The Room
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: because it didn't do well.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's more like I think it's more like
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you look at you look at certain films that were
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: incredibly ambitious and it turns out that the story of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: making the film is at least as interesting as the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: film itself, Like Jaws has that, Apocalypse Now has that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So there's a history of this kind of thing where
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: there were documentaries that were, you know, just trying to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: chronicle these very ambitious projects for whatever reason. And also
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: like The Room doesn't have a documentary, it has a
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: BS biopic that was that is largely fictional.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I mean I know that, but I like trying to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: pivot the perception into that kind of cinema creation.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I think the documentary. I think the documentary exists. I mean,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but like, my my impression is the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: documentary exists just because it was such a weird attempt,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: like a weird thing for a filmmaker to do. On
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: their own with their own money, you know, because like
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think the documentary crew has any skin in
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: the game whether Megalopolis goes on to have any kind
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: of lasting impact beyond its you know, moment in history.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Like I don't ever hear anyone talk about it now.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it was so weird. I, like I said,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that the story behind it is very interesting.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I just.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I just was kind of at the same time, like, oh,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: this is this is a thing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be more likely to watch Mega doc
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: than I would to watch Megalopolis if I'm bees. Well,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: now we have a new segment for our show, because
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I decided that, like, I do like talking about horror,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: but it's not really Ariel's bag. And also I didn't
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: want to have I had often used I used to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: put horror movie trailers at the end of our episodes,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and that made Ariel sad, and I don't want to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: make Ariel sad, So I decided I'd move a new
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: segment that I am calling John Boy's Horror Hutch. This
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: is where I talk about trailers for stuff that falls
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: into the horror genres, and it removes it from us
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: having to have conversations. So I'm just going to go
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: through these pretty quickly. Ariel will chime in if she
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: has anything to say, but she has already revealed to me,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: folks that she skipped these, which is totally fine because
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I told her she could.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I have seen at least one of them. I might
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: have seen too. We'll see, all right.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Well, first up, we have a trailer for hell House
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: LLC lineage. So this is the fifth film in the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: hell House LLC. Friend, and this is actually a franchise,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I really dig I wouldn't say these are all great movies,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: but I enjoy each of them for different reasons. The
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: third one is I can't curse on this show. The
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: third one is Bonker's Goo Goo Crazy Pants, and I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: love it anyway. The others are also they're crazy in
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: different ways, but the third one is just like what
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: like anyway? I love all of them, and this is
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the fifth one. The only thing is that it's taking
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: a totally different approach because the first four movies are
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: in that found footage style, right, it's either like documentarians
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: or whatever. This one is not done in that style.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: It's done as a cinematic film, like a regular movie,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: which is unusual. Also, the creator of the series, Stephen Cognetti,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: has suggested this could potentially be the final film in
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the franchise, which is also strange because they introduced in
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a previous movie a crazy, cursed carnival that they've never explored.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: They just have had, you know, like lore from it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: And I was sure that we were going to get
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: a crazy carnival movie, but that does not seem to
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: be this one, So maybe we just never get to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: learn more about the carnival. It looks like it's trying
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to tie things together between the fourth film, which was
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: set in the Carmichael manner, and the other movies which
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: were set in and around the Abadon Hotel, And it
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: looks like it has a little bit of I Know
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: what you did last summer energy to it as well,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: like it sounds like there's a an incident in which
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: people struck and killed an innocent person and that has
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: kind of started a chain of haunted violence. I'm still
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: gonna watch this because I'm totally invested in this franchise.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: It comes out August twentieth. Next up, we have a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: trailer for a movie called Whistle. I would say this
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: is kind of similar to The Monkey, where you have
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: a wind up monkey, and every time the monkey starts
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to play his drum, it presages the fact that someone
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: is going to die. Same thing, except now it's a
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: little carved whistle with a skull on it, and if
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you blow on the whistle and you hear the whistle,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: then you're gonna die. Got a little bit of final
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: destination vibes in there, too. Looks like it's more gritty
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: and scary than the Monkey was. The Monkey looked like
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: it was a bit over the top and almost absurd
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: in its level of violence. This seems less, so it
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: seems more like supposed to be more spooky. Nick Frost
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: is in it, and I love Nick Frost.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Not all of these things have been a hit, though.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I have not watched the one where he believes he's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: in a sitcom. I haven't seen that one. But I
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: did see the one where he's on he's he's with
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: his family on vacation, and that was okay.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I guess it's okay, I guess if you're throwing spaghetti
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually a noodle Wi Stick. This one comes out
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: next year. Next up. They've got a trailer for the
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Jester two. I did not know there was a Jester
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: one that came out in twenty twenty three, and I
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: also didn't know these were based off some short films
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: that were on YouTube back in twenty seventeen.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: They were my favorite kind of horror movie.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And watching the trailer, I'm like, oh, this
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: does look like it's guilty of the exact same things
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I hate about, you know, horror movies that respawned from
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a short film where they just cannot support a feature
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: length running time, and yet they did it anyway. It
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: also looks like a kind of knockoff of Terrifier, And
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned in the last episode, I hate the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Terrifier franchise, so it doesn't win any points for me.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if you if you like spooky clown type things,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: maybe check out The Jester too.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you for putting this one in horror, because if
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I had seen that in like my feedlely, I would
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: have been like, oh, a nice little fantasy history piece.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: So I think you would have watched the very beginning
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: going like, oh no, this is a horror movie and
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: it's derivative and it's not particularly scary, and you would
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: have just bounced. I don't think it like it doesn't
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: start off with like absolute gore or anything, but it yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: none of it. It didn't hit me at all. If
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you are interested in the Jester, that's cool. I don't
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: want to yuck. You're yum. It comes out September fifteenth
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: and sixteenth to theaters like literally those two days, and
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: then I think it's video on demand. Then we have
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: a trailer for Queen of Bones. This is a historical
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: period horror movie where Martin Freeman is in it, and
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: he plays a dad of two teenage children, a boy
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and a girl, And it seems to be that every
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: year he tells the story about how their mother died,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and the sun tells Like in a scene where the
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: son and daughter are in their room, the sun is saying,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: do you ever notice how the story changes year to year?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Like I think he's hiding something. So there's like intrigue,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: like did the dad have something to do with the
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: mom's death. There's a point where people bring some of
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the mother's belongings to the house like they had been
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: stored somewhere else, and the belongings include a mysterious book
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: with sigils on it, so there's like a Witchcraft element
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: to the story, so there's like it makes me think
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: of the Witch, where there's some psychological elements and potentially
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: some supernatural ones. I'm not convinced that it's a supernatural horror,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: but it looks really intense, so that looks like it's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: going to be pretty good. I got another trailer for
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: The Long Walk. We've talked about The Long Walk, so
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: here except that it was a good trailer. This one
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you did see because you sent me the link.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did see the trailer for The Long Walk.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I agree. It was a good It looks like the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: movie is going to be very well done and the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: acting is going to be great, and it's going to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: make you feel things, and I just I don't The
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: concept upsets me at a visceral level, so I can't
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's a it's a very upset like
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I've read the novella and it's an upsetting novella. And
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I probably will watch this because I already know what
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I'm getting into, having read the story that it comes from,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: and I also want to see Mark Hamill play a
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: bad guy, and I like what I like the work
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: he's doing in the trailers, so kind of kind of
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: digging that. That comes out September fifteenth. And then finally
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: there was a trailer for The Conjuring Last Rites, the
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: fourth Conjuring movie. It's about the hoaxter and scam artists
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: known as the Warrens. They are not portrayed as hoaxters
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and scam artists in the Conjuring series. They are portrayed
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: as sincere and capable mystics and demonologists just know that
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff they talked about just never happened.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: So I have strong feelings about this because turning people
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: who made up stories about hauntings into like a cinematic
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: universe is, in my mind, celebrating and preserving the memory
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: of the wrong people.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: You also didn't like The Greatest Showman, did you?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: No? No, I don't like The great Listen. I would
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: love for there to be a musical about PT. Barnum's
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: life that was accurate actually yeah, factual. That would be fantastic,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: But The Greatest Showman is like garbage.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I do appreciate your commitment to making sure
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: that whenever we talk about the Conjuring people know one
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it was supposedly based on real people, and that two
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: they're romanticizing those people's bad behavior.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, comes out September fifth. I will say like, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: watched the first couple of Conjuring movies, and I felt
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: that they were effective supernatural horror movies, right, Putting aside
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: my feelings about the Warrens, I thought the movies were
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: well made and spooky. This trailer did not give me
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: spooky vibes. But again, it could just be the way
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the trailer is cut or I don't know who directed
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: this one. I don't think it was James wand who
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: was the one who did the first one. But yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: this one just didn't do much for me. I think
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: it's because it just looks way too similar to previous entries,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: and like once a magician shows you how a magic
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: trick works, it's not that interesting to watch it again.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's all from John Boy's Horror Hutch. There was
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: a lot this week. I don't expect every week to
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: be like that. And now I'm going to be quiet
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: for a bit.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So yes, So now we're getting into the things that
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like I am half I was gonna say that I'm
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: excited about. Really, the first one is the one that
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited that there are three that I'm very
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: excited about, and some other ones that I was surprised
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: looked pretty good. So the first is we got an
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: actual trailer for Peacemaker season two, and I know we
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: had a teaser. This trailer tells us a lot more
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: about the story that's gonna happen and how James Gunn
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: is going to bring Peacemaker into the proper DC Cinematic.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Universe, at least for a while anyway. Yeah, yeah, because
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: there's there's a portal and he has it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the trailer, the trailer is basically the overview Peacemaker.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Season one of Peacemaker was a lot of like super crass.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: This guy who is problematic in every way a guy
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: can be problematic who believes he's a superhero learns to
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: actually be a decent person. And I was surprised in
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: season one how much I ended up liking and feeling
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: liking his character and feeling for him. Like the acting
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: was superb, the story was great, and there is a
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: lot of like runch to get through, right. It's because
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of property it is. But I didn't
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: end up minding going through it because again, the story
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: was so so compelling to watch.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It is a good ensemble too, a really strong ensemble,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: and John Cena is quite charming even playing a total idiot.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So in season two, he's continuing his journey
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: of growth. He wants to actually be a good guy.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: He wants to be known for being a good guy
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and is frustrated with the basically the reputation he's made
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: for himself previously and the struggle it is to get
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: out of it. And he gets the opportunity to go
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: into another world where he can realize all of these
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: dreams he has.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where the other version of himself is revered as
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a hero.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah. And then it looks like the story is
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: going to go into well, he is needed, he just
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel he's needed in his actual world. I'm it
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: looks great. I am so excited for this.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rick Rick Flagg Senior needs him because he needs
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: to kill him.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do love that. First of all, James
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Gunn has been making a whole lot of wins for
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: me in his movie making career lately, so I'm a fan.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I love that he is using the voice actors from
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Creature Commandos in his live action stuff. How many times
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: do voice actors get recast even though they could do
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: on screen stuff. I love it. I love it so much.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this season begins August twenty first, so we don't
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: have that long to wait and excited about it too.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I also can't wait to see what the new opening
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: sequence looks like, and I hope, I know that the
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: temptation is going to be to release that ahead of
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the series actually launching, but I would love for it
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: to be one of those things where the first time
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you see it is when that first episode drops.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. There's a bunch of stuff coming
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: out in August that I'm excited for and I can't
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I have. I need to keep a list because I
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: keep forgetting all of them.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: It's why I'm taking notes now of when things are launching,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: because like we are always like it's coming out soon,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: but when is it?
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and then we're like, oh, we want
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: to watch it, and then we're like, oh, it's been
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: two years that came out. I forgot.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we also got a trailer a more extensive trailer
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: for gen V season two. This is the spinoff from
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: the Boys that makes the voice look like shiny happy
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: people at certain times, it's dark. So this new trailer
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: shows Starlight, the character from The Boy is visiting Marie,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: who is the protagonist from GENV and convincing her to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: go back to the school in GENV to kind of
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: be like an undercover agent type person to learn more
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: about the new leader of that school and a secret
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: project called Odessa, and she apparently finds out that she
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: potentially is the strongest soup to ever exist, even stronger
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: than Homelander. I do not know how a character who
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: has the ability to control blood is more powerful than
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Homelander necessarily, but I guess we'll find out.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, Homelander has blood. They can just pull it out, right.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Sure, that's something. It's just like again, like it's one
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: of those things where whenever you get it fits for
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: comic books, It's where you get into one of those
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: conversations about who's a stronger superhero, Like who's more powerful?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: And you have two different characters with completely different power abilities,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and you're like, how do you compare this? Like this
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: person can run super fast, but this one can lift
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: a truck. Like it gets really tricky, right, because it's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: not apples to apples. But this season begins on September seventeenth,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: so we don't have long to wait for that either,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: especially considering that I think The Boys, the next season
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: comes out next year, so we've still got some time
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: until that comes out.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The Boys was very dark and it
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: was also very gory, but it was like the violence
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't the issue for me. This feels like, at least
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: gen V from the trailer feels like it is mainly
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: dark because of violence.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Now there's there. I mean, okay, it's set in a
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: college setting, so think of the dark things that can
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: happen at a college and then just turn it into
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a superhero series. It's not just the violence, Yeah, it's yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: there's there's like there's some dark, dark subject there's not
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: safe for work dark subject matter in gen Vuh. It
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: made me think that it was even more kind of
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: despondent than The Boys.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Is that's that's hard to do.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean I watched I watched it all
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: the way through it. At the end of it, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't feel good.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So I'll say it again, why I stopped watching The Boys.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I will keep my eyes for something better like Wakanda.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which you could do today because it came out today. Today,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the day we're recording this is August first. I don't
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: know when this will go up. It'll depend upon when
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I can edit it. August Yeah, so today, August first
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: is when the Eyes of Wakanda animated series came out
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: on Disney Plus. It is four episodes, it's an anthology,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: and essentially the stories are covering kind of like Wakanda
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: secret agents who are going out to recover various artifacts
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: made out of vibranium.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It looks good.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like a good animated series.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: There was nothing about the trailer that made me specifically
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: go ooh, I have to watch that, but I was like, oh, yeah,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: this looks like it's going to be decent.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Same. I thought it was one of those things
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: where I was like, I don't know if anyone was
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: asking for this, But at the same time, I'm like,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: you know what, there's so many different superhero properties that
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: have characters who have similar backgrounds to me out there
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: that it's nice to have ones who have a different
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: background out there, so I'm not complaining because and it
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: also looks like the stories are you know, like obviously
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of care was put into the animation and
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: the casting and all that, and maybe maybe it'll start
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: to set up little elements that could potentially pay off
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: in the future. Black Panther three.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we also got a trailer for something that we've
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: talked about before and I've been looking forward to, which
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: is Starfleet Academy, starring Holly Hunter and Robert Piccardo and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: tig Nataro. Like, and I'm it's it's a star Trek
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: show about Starfleet Academy, and I want to say that
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I am super interested. It looks delightful.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: It's set in the thirty second century, which holy cow,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: it's and apparently Starfleet Academy has been shut down for
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty years or something, so this
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: is like the first time Starfleet Academy has been active
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: again for more than a century. And so yeah, it
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: follows different student characters who are training to become Starfleet
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: off I wrote to Ariel earlier this week that I
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: watched the trailer and it actually got me a little
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: emotional because it had references to Voyager and Deep Space
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: nine as well as the original series. No references to
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: the Next Generation, which is kind of weird, but you know,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: it got me a little emotional, and I was looking
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: forward to it until I found out who the showrunner
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: was because it's Alex Kurtzman, and I don't like what
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Kurtsman has done with Star Trek.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I do like some of the stuff he's done with
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Star Trek, so but we know that we differ on
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that opinion. And the Starfleet Academy trailer does have characters
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: from Discovery in it. Sylvia, Tilly, jet Reno, Charles Vans
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: are all characters that are in seasons of Discovery. They're
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: great characters though, they're some of my favorite characters, so
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. But it does have the doctor
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Robert Otter from Star Trek Voyager. If you're not familiar,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the doctor in that season in that series was holographic, So.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they stole it from Red Dwarf.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so does an age Able to be there? Uh?
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: While I know that many of my friends after the
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: trailer came out, we're talking about how sexy they have
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: made one of the Klingons because there's a very attractive
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Klingon in the trailer. I am more amused by the
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: fact that Paul Giamatti will also be playing a kling
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: On somewhere on this series.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Half Clingon, half cling On. He's half tell Rite as well.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: One of the notes I put I put in, I
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: put in notes that there were a lot of half this,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: half that characters in this which is again like odd
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to me, Like there's a half cling On, half tellerwrite
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: that's Paul Giamatti's character. There's another character who's part Klingon,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: part gem Hadar. Like I was just like, this is
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: it's amazing to me that there's so many different species
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: out there in space that are reproductively compatible with one another.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like most of Star Trek has
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: been that way though throughout the years.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I mean you had Spock who's half Vulcan half human,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: but in a lot of the older Star Trek, like
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: that was just not something that like, if you look
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: at it from a biological standpoint, the odds of two
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: species from completely different planets with no discernible common point
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: of origin being compatible in a reproductive way is like
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: astronomically small and yet it's apparently happening all the frickin'
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: time in Star Trek.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're mostly humanoid plus humanoid.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: That's another issue I have with Star Trek aliens. But
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: that came down to a budget.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I will say, like it is, it
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: is cool to see uh Orville. Orville played with that
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: a bit more. There were less human I mean, still
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of human humanoid aliens, but less of them.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: There was some more variety there. But also, like you're
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: traveling through the stars, you have replicators. There is science
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: to make things work.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Right, But I can't imagine two beings from separate species saying,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: you know what we should do, create a child based
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: off of us who will be reviled by both our cultures.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, let's let's set our child up
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: here with you.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Let's have our child to become a total failure and
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: or serial killer let's do it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Or.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Ruler revered above all else. I mean, also not.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: A good that falls in line with serial killer because
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: you have to be psychotic, all right, So disagree with you.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I'm excited that I looked at this on Wikipedia, and
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: according to Wikipedia, one of the actors who will have
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: an occasional recurring role is Becky Lynch, who is the Man.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Becky Lynch is the man. If you're a WWE fan,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. Becky Lynch is a
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: professional wrestler and sometimes she goes as the man. You
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: would never mistake her for the man, because Becky Lynch
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: is an incredibly attractive woman. But yeah, she's like, you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: She's like, you gotta beat the man, and she'll point
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: to herself. She's phenomenal. She's a phenomenal performer, and I'm
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: excited to see her in Star Trek, even though I'm
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: not totally sold on this particular series.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: So I am not going to tell you that you
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: should watch Discovery. I have many friends who say that
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: they struggle with the fact that not with the stories
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: that Discovery was telling, but the fact that Discovery wouldn't
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: let you draw your own conclusions. They were very much like,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: we're going to lay out very specifically how you should
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: feel about this situation, and that got a little frustrating
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: for my friends. But I will say the later seasons
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: definitely felt more true to the Star Trek that you love.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to get through that you would not
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: love to get there, but once they get there, Like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: the final season. I adored the final season. I was
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: so into that I was sad that it had ended
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: and I had taken some time to watch it because
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: while I enjoyed Discovery, it wasn't, you know, classic Star
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Trek to me.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: So I honestly think that my favorite Star Trek property
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: is also the property that ultimately ruined Star Trek. So
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Voyager Wrath of gon Oh like Star Trek the Wrath, Yes,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: because Star Trek before Wrath of Khan is all about
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: discovery and encountering problems and figuring out a solution to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: those problems that more often than not did not involve violence.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: And The Wrath of Cohn is an action movie. And
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: everything after Wrath of Khan, well, Next Generation is aside
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: and Deep Space nine. Actually Next Generation and Deep Space
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: nine avoided this quite a bit. Voyager two, like the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: TV series, all seemed to avoid it becoming like we
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: need to beat up this bad guy or blow them up,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: and more about how can we explore and understand and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: solve issues and resolve conflict?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: What just that's where Strange New World is like they
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: they have that that whole.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Vibe in Yeah, I'm just saying that Kurtzman's shows in general,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Kurtzman's projects in general, have kind of not recognized that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: element of Star Trek for the most part, and that
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: it has become more of the pew pew laser action series,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: which is not what I watched Star Trek for.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I totally get that. I'm not going to say you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: should watch Strange New Worlds, though I am very much
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: enjoying it. It does have that old Star Trek feel
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: to me. It does have that peaceful solution whenever we can.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are still some like the gorn Right.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: They're not a peaceful race they were in the original
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Star Trek, but the crew tries to solve things non
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: violently for the most part when they can. The later
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: seasons of Discovery did that. So my hope for you
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: being emotional about the Starfleet Academy trailer is that Kurtzman
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: has gotten the world even though you didn't go on
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: the journey to a place where you will be happy
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: with this new series because I feel like they've gotten
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: to the place where you want them to be throughout
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: their journey.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: That would be nice. I did see something that concerned
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: me about Apparently they weren't happy with the reception that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: the trailer got at Comic Con, and they thought that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: they might have to rework things. I'm like, oh no,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: because if they rework things, that means they're going to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: blow more stuff.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Up they are struggling with. I think there was an
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: article about this and we talked about it a while
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: ago that Star Trek has a very solid following of
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: original fans, but has had trouble getting new people on board.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: And so that's that's the struggle. You want to make
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: some Star Trek for the people who have always loved it,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: but you also want to make Star Trek that will
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: attract new people.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Well, and the nice thing is that you can be
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: like me and just enjoy the stuff that came out previously,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: and that's your Star Trek. There's nothing wrong with that,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: and that's fine. And you can you can leave the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Star Trek that that new audiences might resonate with but
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: that you feel is a bad, bad fit. You can
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: leave that to them, and that's fine. Like both can exist.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to just well, you also
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: don't like funny, so like, but I want to pick
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: like four episodes I want to cherry pick Strange New
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Worlds for you.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: To be fair, Some of my favorite Star Trek episodes
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: are the funny ones, like the Trouble with Tribbles is
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: a is a.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Classic great, It's so good.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I do wish that they had resisted the urge to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: bring Tribles in like multiple times afterward, because it's a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: joke that best works once.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I I would say it can get extra goofy sometimes,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: And there are some dark episodes of Strange New Worlds,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: but overall I love it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's an episode where they turn into muppets.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Are you going to watch that one?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know if my sister had worked on it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Did you watch Farscape?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, that that show is great and also had muppets.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I know that I almost put that one as
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: my answer to your question at the beginning because you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: didn't like it.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, no.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: That's fine, but I knew how much you liked it,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's cool. I'm glad you do.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: No, Like when I was interested in far Escape when
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I heard about it, and then I didn't watch it,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: and then Tony introduced me to it and it took
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: me like a half a season until they realized that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: following the normal like science fiction adventure story wouldn't suit them,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: and they went off the rails. And then I loved it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: But I realized that is not for everybody.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Sure, something that also is not for everybody, I would
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: argue is James Cameron's Avatar movies. And I say this
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: because knowing that even though they are some of the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: most successful movies at the box office that have ever
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: been made, I still haven't watched one of them.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I so like, I saw the first one twice, three
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: times in the theater. They're very pretty.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: That's that's kind of that's kind of what I would
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: like I would When Disney made Avatar Land in the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Animal Kingdom, I was like, I wonder if if you're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: average person who has seen Avatar, like someone who has
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: seen the movie and was impressed by it, you know,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: just really blown away by it, if they could name
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: three characters, like can you name three characters? You might
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: be able to say Sully because because of the main character,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: but can you name.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: It's not the main character, that's not Sigourney Weaver.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I wouldn't know. I haven't seen any
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: of them. I'm just piercing this off what I've gathered.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: There's not the Novey, there's Sigourney Weaver, and there's the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: neck boy.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the thing is that if I asked someone
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: to name three like whereas with Star Wars, you like,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: name three characters, they were just like Okay, ob Wan, Luke, Skywalker,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Princess Leah, Han, Solo, Chewbacca, like R two D two
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: C three pol like you Darth Vader. You would start
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: naming off tons of characters. I don't think the same
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: is true of Avatar. So it's always blown me away
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: that it has U has the cultural power behind it,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: and I get that some of that is because of
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: James Cameron. Some of it is because of the legit
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: spectacular images that he creates. Some of it is that
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: he has pushed really hard for advances in technology that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: that certainly suit the types of films he has made.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: But from a storytelling and character perspective, I just don't
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: get it. So we got we got a trailer for Avatar,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Fire and Ash, And that's my long preamble to say,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell is going on in
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: this thing.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I also I also don't know, like I can tell
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the performances are good. I did not watch The Way
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: of Water, and then the next is going to be
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Earth and then Wind and then Heart.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Right, yet the final ones Avatar Captain Planet.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, so I watch The Way of Water. I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: listened to the maclroy Brothers review on it, and I
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: felt like I had enjoyed enough of it. Yeah. I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: can tell that the art is beautiful. I can tell
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: that the performances the actors are feeling them. That's great.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not super interested in the story that they're telling.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I don't. I also don't know super what's going on.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: But the Avatar world in Animal Kingdom is delightful. In
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Flights of Passage is such a phenomenal ride.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, having not seen Avatar, it's just like, yeah, this
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: is fun. It could literally be a fantasy overlay of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: me riding a dragon. It would be just as fun
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: as there's I have no connection to the source material.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: It's also why when I rode the river Ride, the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: dark ride that's there, I was like, y'all, I feel
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: like this is the closest I'm ever gonna be to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: having a mush. There's just lights, all around me, and
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on or what the beating is.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is as close as I'm ever going
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: to get to hallucinating based off like a hallucinogenic drugs.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: This is it, And I'm not that thrilled with it, because,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: for one thing, the soundtrack is incredibly repetitive. But yeah,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: the I don't know, it's just not for me. I guess.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I did think that the design of the leader of
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: the ash People was kind of nifty, like she looks
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: pretty fierce and scary.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I also thought that everything looked way more cartoony than
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: previous avatars, And I can't tell if that's just me.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know if it's just because
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: I've gotten used to the way they look. Like I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: haven't done a side by side comparison. They also look
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: cartoony to me. But I also feel like I felt
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: maybe the original Nave did as well.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: It might have been maybe that's the case, Like it
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: certainly doesn't look more real to me, like it looks
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: like it's computer animation. To me, it doesn't. There's nothing
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: believable about it. There's nothing that anchors me in it.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: It does come out December nineteenth of this year. Here's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: a fun fact that movie's been delayed multiple times. Can
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: you guess how many years it's been delayed from when
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: it originally was supposed to come out? Just to guess? Ten? Wow?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Ten years?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: And looking side by side, Yes, they have made them
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: more cartoony, Like I'm looking at a picture of the characters,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: and they have made them look more alien and less
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: human in like design and detail. But I also wonder
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: if that's like so for a long time film with
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: dage actors, and they wouldn't look right because they tried
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: to deage them to what they actually looked like when
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: they were younger. And then people realized I think this
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: was this was something that came out during when Captain
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Marvel came out that your brain accepts the cgid aging
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: of a person a lot more if you deaged them
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: to look like a younger version of how they look
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: now versus how they actually looked when they were young.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: So I wonder if this is similar in like, if
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: we try to make them look too human, it's going
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: to be more Uncanny Valley than if we quit trying
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, considering it's a movie that made more money
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: than any other movie in history. I think they could
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: have run the risk. But you know, I get what
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: you're saying. It's just I just thought it was weird
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: because it looked. It definitely looked more like a cartoon
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to me than previous versions had at different points in time.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. If you're into Avatar and like
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: you're excited about Fire and Ash, that's awesome. Like I
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: said December nineteenth, when it comes out, I hope you
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: have a great time. I don't think this is the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: movie that's gonna convince me to dive into the series, though.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Same next week got a trailer for The Walking Dead
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Daryl Dixon season three, and I'm gonna be real, honest,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize there was a Darryl Dixon season one
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: or two. I'm sure I knew it at some point,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: and it completely evacuated my brain.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, I also didn't know, and then I read up
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: on it and it's I can't curse on this show.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Google Banana's crazy balls? Have you do you know? I mean,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: it can be falls, do you know? Do you know
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: the basic premise for The Walking Dead Daryl Dixon?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I thought, you're just gonna stop at the Walking Dead, and.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, you know that basic print. So
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: in the first season I had to look this up.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I did not know this in the because I also
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: didn't know there were three seasons of the show. I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: didn't know it was a thing. But in the very
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: first season, Darryl Dixon wakes up. He's washed up on
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: the shore of France, and You're like, huh, how did
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: you get there? Darryl Dixon. And Darryl Dixon wakes up
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: and he goes, huh, how did I get? Hear me?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: And it turns out that he was like kidnapped and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: then brought aboard a boat that came across and then
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: he ended up leading a mutiny against the ship and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: ends up washing up on the shore of France, and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I guess had temporary amnesia or something. But you find
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: out that France is where the virus originated. After two
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: seasons of that, he and Carol, who is after the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: first season, Carol starts looking for him and eventually makes
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: her way over to France and joins him, and Carol
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: and Darryl decide that they're gonna go to England. So
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: this trailer picks up with them going to England, where
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: they find out the only apparently the only English person
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: still alive is Stephen Merchant, which is how you can
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: tell this is fiction, because you can't. You cannot convince
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: me that out of all the people in England, Stephen
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Merchant would be the one to survive.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Now I think Alex Horn would beat him out for sure.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is the Taskmaster.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then they have to go to Spain.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Yes they yeah, exactly. It starts in England, but the
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: majority of the story takes place in Spain, where there
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: is a power struggle. So once again, like The Walking
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Dead is really a show about incredibly violent interpersonal disagreements
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: and challenges with zombies as a backdrop. And yeah, it
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: becomes a whole who's going to be King of Spain
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, And there's like a clearly like a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: fascist type of character who's trying to gain power. And
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: this is not the show to bring me back to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: The Walking Dead if anything. This to me is just
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: truly absurd. But it comes out September seventh, and then
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: supposedly season four of The Walking Dead, Daryl Dixon will
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: be the last of that series.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Interesting. I will say this one and then the one
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: with Megan in New York Megan takes New.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: York or whatever it is takes Manhattan.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Is that really what it's called?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: No, but that's okay, that's the Muppets take Manhattan.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I wasn't sure if I got it
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: right and just forgot.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Or Jason takes Manhattan. There's that one.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: You know. They both have some like some a few
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: little flashes of scenes that I found interesting. But yeah,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: like the zombies dressed up as French aristocrats marionetting, which
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: is weird. But but they feel like they're moving more
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: towards absurdist Brazil hunger games sometimes. But yeah, I'm still
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: not I'm still not going back, Still not going back.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: They can't can't trick me. Speaking of getting tricked again, Yeah,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the new Jurassic World because they tricked me.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: They said they learned their lesson and that they were
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: going back to the original, but then they didn't use
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: practical effects and it was a Jurassic World, not a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park movie. But maybe if I haven't gotten that
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: itch scratched with Jurassic World, or I guess with Godzilla. Either,
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  Speaker 1: there's a new movie called Primitive War coming out that
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: is fighting dinosaurs that might appease.
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  Speaker 2: I doubt it. It looks to me like it. It
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  Speaker 2: looks to be like a dinosaur movie that might have
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: been made by Asylum Pictures. I put it in here.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I probably could have taken this out, but it's but
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  Speaker 2: it's a movie I wrote. I said, it looks like
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: it's a low to mid budget movie, the kind of
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: thing you might see on sci fi, like the Sci
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Fi Channel. But basically it's it's set during the Vietnam
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: War and some a small squad is sent out. I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: guess they're pathfinders or something, but they come across dinosaurs,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, how, how could it possibly be that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs are alive and that has escaped attention from the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: rest of the world, Like Vietnam isn't that remote even
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties. So I just got the feeling like, oh,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: someone wanted to make Platoon, but with dinosaurs. It turns out,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: by the way, this is based off a novel that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: was published in twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: In two like if you had said this was based
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: off a novel published in like nineteen fifty six, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I had never heard of this book. That's
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  Speaker 2: not a comment on quality, because there's lots of books
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: that come out that I've never heard of and then
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: turn out that they're brilliant. I don't know if this
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  Speaker 2: is one of them. Doesn't the movie trailer doesn't lead
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  Speaker 2: me to think.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: It does come out August twenty first, So I guess
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: if you're big on war movies and you always wanted
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs to be in them, you got your shot. Yay.
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  Speaker 1: Next, we've got a trailer for a series on BBC
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: called King and Conqueror. It's about billion this one. I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: was about to say, you must be because I watched it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is another historical fight.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Ye, some, but it's it's how England becomes England.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't just born England.
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  Speaker 2: The heck No, yes, you were. You were about to
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: say who it's who it's or at least one half
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: of the King and Conqueror story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, be William, who I think is the conqueror half.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, William the Conqueror is what he's generally known as.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And the other half is King Carled the Second,
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  Speaker 3: King Harold the Second.
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  Speaker 1: King Harold the Second, I knew that.
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  Speaker 2: I will educate you on your English kings and queens. Uh.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Harold the Second was the last of the Saxon Kings,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: and then I spoiler alert for the series. I guess,
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  Speaker 2: but it it's also historical last.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: The Saxon and the Sexy Kings.
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  Speaker 2: Now King King Harold the Second led England when William
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: the Conqueror landed from Normandy and began to conquer left
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: and right. William the Conqueror is the reason why there's
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: so many castles in England every everywhere. William the Conqueror stopped,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: he essentially ordered his men to build a castle. And
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: in the old days, those castles were very different from
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: what you see today. But a lot of the castles
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: that are in England today are built on the remains
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: of the castles that William the Conqueror established, made out
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: of wood. For one thing, he was like, build me
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: a big house, build me a big fortification that is defendable,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: is what he was asking. Uh. And those those eventually
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: would be turned into Like the Tower of London is
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: like one of those that it's it's built on the
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: foundation of an ancient castle. I'm excited about this because
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  Speaker 2: it's an area that I haven't really seen depicted in
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: television or movies that much. I mean, spoiler alert. You
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: know how it's gonna go. You know that William's gonna win,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: because that's how history is. But the series comes out
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: August twenty fourth in the UK on BBC one, and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Paramount is in charge of global distribution, so I don't
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: know when it will be available for the rest of
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: the world or on what service specifically, if it'll be
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Paramount Plus or something else. But I thought it looked
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: like it was pretty well done. I mean, I can
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: see if you're not interested in that era of history,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: it'd be kind of dry and you probably wouldn't be
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: totally into it.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I do like, actually, I do like medieval period stuff.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I was just goofin. Well, it does look very well done.
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  Speaker 2: And my focus is largely on Renaissance, which is quite
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: quite a ways away, Like this is ten sixty six, right,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not. My specialty is late fifteen hundreds to early
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds, so it's I'm familiar with the history, but
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not as well schooled in it as like an
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: actual scholar. But I think it looks interesting. I don't
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: know how period appropriate any of the costuming is or
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: any of that stuff. I'm sure there'll be endless videos
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: going over it in the future.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. But it does look very well done.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: But if you want period appropriate costuming, Jonathan, you really
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: just need to see Utopia too.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: What period are you thinking about? Homeschool?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I don't even understand that.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: No whatever, so ze schooled? Yes, oh yeah, that's righty. Hey,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Zootopia two. We talked about the teaser where like there
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: was actually saw the teaser on the big screen the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: other day because they showed it before Fantastic Four. But
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: this is the trailer where we get a little bit
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: more about the plot where Nick and Judy have been
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: partnered together for all of one week before they're ordered
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: to go and attend a therapy session for partnerships and crisis.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: So things are apparently not going well. And then there's
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: a case in which a snake has appeared in Zootopia.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Apparently a snake hasn't been in Zootopia in as Nick says, forever.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: So two things instantly struck me when watching this trailer. One,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I thought they were partnered up for much more than
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: a week.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she says, it's been a week. It's a happy anniversary.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I guess one, they weren't really partnered
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: up in Zutopia one, and then two this happened right after.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like a week after the offense of Zutopia.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which bold. And then the second thing that struck
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: me was watching through Zutopia. Because I watched it twice.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen it twice, it never hit me that there
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: weren't non mammal animals. I think you told me that too,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: But again I completely did not notice that when watching.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no birds, no reptiles, no fish, it's all mammals. Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, Like I wonder if they go into more
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: of that, Like maybe there are other regions where other
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: types of animals are the norm and mammals are unheard of.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know the snake, Oh what's the actor's name? Short,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: round thing everywhere all at once, Oh kwan, he voices
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: the snake and yeah, and he says that he has
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: to go and save his family. But we don't know
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: from what. Uh, But it does kind of fall into
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: what we thought when we saw the teaser where it
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: looked like Judy and Nick were on the run trying
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: to protect the snake while solving a mystery while everyone
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: else is just after the snake. It looks like that's
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: going to be the case. There's also a moment at
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: the end of the trailer where Nick and Judy are
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: infiltrating a fancy event of some sort, and Judy is
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: in a yellow dress with her ears done up. And
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: I wrote, this is gonna fuel cosplay for years.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, for sure.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: It's it's like Lola Bunny all over again.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: I mean it already kind of was there. You haven't
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: been to Dragon Con a while. There are a lot
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: of Judy hops.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Cause I guess I shouldn't be surprised this comes out
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: in November. I enjoyed the first Zoutopia. Uh me too.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: I I you know, I have issues with it, but
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: I thought overall it was a pretty fun movie. So
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this same same.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: I think I don't know if i'll see it in theaters,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: but I think I will see it.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: See I wish it were I wish we were coming out
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: earlier because I'm going to be on a Disney cruise
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: in early September, and I could have watched it on
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: the ship. Oh if they if they premiere, they do
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: a land and sea premiere. If they premiere a movie
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: on land, they will premiere it at sea at the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: same time on their ships.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like that's just poor planning on your part,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Kidd. Yeah, that's kidding.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Listen, it was the cheapest time to go because of hurricanes,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: because there's a real good chance that the places we're
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: supposed to go will be underwater and we won't be
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: able to go there. That's why I was able to
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: get it.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: I understand booking travel because of cheapness. I cannot pick
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: on you for that at all. Which thank you all
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: for listening. We've reached the end of our notes and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: apparently the end of my sanity, but thank you for
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: joining us on this wild, crazy, geeky, fun week full
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: of comic con stuff. While there wasn't a whole lot
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: out of comic Con, there were a bunch of really
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: fun videos of fans just doing cool, creative things and
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: having a lot of fun. If you're on social media,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: look it up. It's great, Jonathan. If people want to
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: reach out to us to tell us what geeky properties
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: were missed for them, or what things they're excited about
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: coming up. How do they reach out to us.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you're going to go to the deserted part of town,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: you know, one that was mostly vibrant just like a
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: decade ago or so, but has really fallen into hard
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: times over the last few years. And you know, a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: lot of the businesses have closed and people have moved away,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna go to an empty lot. You know,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: it's just paved over empty lot. There's gonna be like
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: grass kind of growing through cracks and stuff, a little
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: crumbly wall on one side, and you're gonna see like
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: set back in that abandoned lot. You're gonna barely be
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: able to see it. You have to go at night,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: by the way, that's important. The street light is just
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: barely gonna illuminate something towards the very back. And as
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: you approach this thing, you're gonna realize it's a piece
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: of furniture, and you're gonna get closer and closer to it,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be this old like cabinet that's gonna
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: be all like you know, rusty hinges and just beat
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: up like the finish on It is all scratched up
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: and there splatters of what you assume is paint on it.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: One of the little handles has fallen off the other door.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: The handles on there, but it's like this, It almost
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: looks like a chicken foot that kind of handle the finish.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: The fitting there is like a chicken funt. You're gonna
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: have to reach over, You're gonna grab that. It's gonna
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: the door is gonna stick for a bit, so you're
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: gonna have to kind of pull, and there's gonna be
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: this terrible screeching noise as those rusty hinges turn on
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: themselves and the door is gonna open. You're gonna see
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: that I'm inside now like a welcome to John Boys
• 1:29:20
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• 1:29:22
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• 1:29:24
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• 1:29:26
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• 1:29:30
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• 1:29:37
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• 1:30:04
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