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Intro: A Tale of Two Cardi's/Carti's; Long Album Wait & Biggie Music Catalog Potential Sale #119 · The Grounded Show

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Speaker 1: Yo, we're back again episode.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir man, we gave up there, dog. We was
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Speaker 2: looking forward to that one hundred. Yeah, we almost won
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Speaker 2: fifty exactly.
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Speaker 1: Man, we're gonna keep this going. This ain't stopping. This
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Speaker 1: train ain't stopping here.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, just just to kind of start with
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Speaker 2: this and and this, you know, put a.
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Speaker 3: Stamp on it. Oscar's just fast.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was talking about that Conan O'Brien joke basically saying, hey,
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Speaker 2: we about at the halfway Market's about time for Kendrick
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Speaker 2: Lamar to come out here, and this Drake.
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Speaker 1: And call Drake and pedophile. Yeah, they running with that joke,
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Speaker 1: and I seen on I think it was Twitter, the
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Speaker 1: writer of that joke, because you know that wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to Brian's joke. So the writer of that joke tweeted
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Speaker 1: that he said that he bet the producer fifty bucks
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Speaker 1: that that joke would hit. And as soon as he
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Speaker 1: going to Brian said that joke, he goes, I just
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Speaker 1: want fifty bucks. And but it's gonna hit, especially in
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Speaker 1: that kind of audience like that. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it was the Oscars trying to outdo the Grammys
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Speaker 1: and everything that's been going on, but it's like they
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Speaker 1: are AO draining that ship at that joke.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, that was like that moment where I feel
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Speaker 2: like everybody collective. He was like, all right, man, this
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Speaker 2: this is officially corny. Now, yeah, the thing is done.
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Speaker 1: Let's just yeh move. It's officially our last Drake and
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Speaker 1: Kendric clip I will say that.
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Speaker 3: In this context for sure.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, and probably together unless they do something
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Speaker 2: different or whatever the case is.
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Speaker 1: Unless Jay and Nazi this is the last time we
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Speaker 1: grouped them in a segment together. Yeah, man.
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy just the way that saga
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Speaker 2: went down when you think about it at the beginning,
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Speaker 2: and then it ended up being like a multi year
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Speaker 2: thing almost, you know what I mean. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: hasn't even been that long, but it's the effect is
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Speaker 2: going to be a multi year you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: But again, dog, I think that thing got the final
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Speaker 2: nail in his coffee once the uh the Oscars crowd.
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Speaker 1: If Codon is like you said, if Codon O'Brian's joking
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Speaker 1: about it is done. It's like that joke in the
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Speaker 1: group chat that they keep bringing up about you, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, come on y'all still y'all still bringing that up?
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Speaker 1: No facts, Bro.
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Speaker 2: At a certain point, you're getting diminishing returns. It's like
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Speaker 2: a little kid when they make a joke, everybody laughs
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Speaker 2: and they say it seven more times because they just
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Speaker 2: don't understand.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. But done laughing about it, Bro.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, but I guess I guess we can parlay
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Speaker 2: that into the music talk, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 2: since we started with Drake and Kendrick. But I know
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Speaker 2: I've been seeing online them talking about how that new
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Speaker 2: Playboy Cardi album is on the way, and he's been
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Speaker 2: been on the way for a while, right, Yeah, it's.
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Speaker 3: Been on the way for a little minute.
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Speaker 2: His first album also was a thing where it's like
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Speaker 2: it kind of took forever to come out, and people
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Speaker 2: was getting to a point where it's like some of
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Speaker 2: his audience even just outgrew the phase that they was
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Speaker 2: in to even care about the album anymore, like, which
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Speaker 2: was very interesting because he came from that like SoundCloud
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Speaker 2: rap era and that sound was so particularly like young yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, selective. It was a special audience that they
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Speaker 1: were tailoring to at that point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, Bro, if you wait two years
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Speaker 2: to drop something and your audience is thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, bro,
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Speaker 2: Like that's a completely different person by the time you
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Speaker 2: ready to go, you know what I mean. So I
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Speaker 2: definitely feel like in that first album he kind of
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Speaker 2: shot himself in the foot as far as like even
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Speaker 2: just his footing as a rapper, because like you don't
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Speaker 2: even hear about him no more, how huge he was
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Speaker 2: at that time.
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Speaker 1: But it was like now I think he's a dominant
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Speaker 1: feature artist. Now he's had some really good features on
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Speaker 1: certain albums.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like he's just kind of maintained the cloud
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Speaker 2: from his height, you know what I mean. And like
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Speaker 2: his his eccentric ways also kind of like go hand
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Speaker 2: in hand with it because you look at somebody like
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Speaker 2: Little Pump, which is kind of like it's not the
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Speaker 2: same because they don't necessarily make the same type of music,
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Speaker 2: but from the point of view of like the type
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Speaker 2: of music that we're making as far as the error
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Speaker 2: is concerned, Little Pump kind of just died because he's
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Speaker 2: just his style is very young looking. Yeah, his whole
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Speaker 2: personal was like kind of just youth, dumb youth type
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Speaker 2: of thing. But Playboy CARTI is kind of like that
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Speaker 2: vampire thing. It's like it lends itself more for like
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Speaker 2: bigger range of audience and more people to actually enjoy
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Speaker 2: it because it's not specifically like, oh this is childish,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: And do you think? What do you think? And I
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Speaker 1: see that in artists like for example, Cardi b. Right,
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Speaker 1: she came out with that first album, and she hit
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Speaker 1: with that first album, and then she never came out
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Speaker 1: with another one, and it's like, do you know when
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Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I think I lost the fan
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Speaker 1: base or not, I lost the fan base, but I
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Speaker 1: can no longer grasp the fan base who appreciate the
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Speaker 1: album so much, and I don't think I can come
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Speaker 1: out with something else with that. You think he was
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Speaker 1: just trying to ride the way for so long he
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Speaker 1: thought he would it would ride a longer than he
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Speaker 1: thought he was a yo.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
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Speaker 2: Because also just having like little insights to what it
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Speaker 2: takes to make music and do projects, and just once
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Speaker 2: people have their hands in what you're doing and you
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Speaker 2: start touring and stuff, and it becomes a little harder
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Speaker 2: to get in the studio and focus up and everything.
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Speaker 2: It could be definitely a lot of things. But going
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Speaker 2: back to the Cardi angle that you mentioned, I didn't
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Speaker 2: even think about it that way, but like somebody like
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Speaker 2: a Cardi b it almost became a thing where like
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Speaker 2: she blew up because of her personality and music was
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Speaker 2: just more like the thing that came along with.
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Speaker 1: Gotcha.
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Speaker 2: So, going off of the other thing you said about
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Speaker 2: Playboy Cardi being kind of like the feature guy, now
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Speaker 2: maybe he just kind of went a route where it's like,
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Speaker 2: let me just kind of guard my mistique in my aura,
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Speaker 2: pop out here and there to get a little more
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Speaker 2: longevity out of than if you would have been like
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Speaker 2: just dropping music and being consistent, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: There's not many artists you could do that though, Like
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Speaker 1: I tell you, like that rhymes your Frank Ocean how
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Speaker 1: he did that. But Frank Ocean had music that spans
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Speaker 1: over a bunch of demographics, and like he can drop
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Speaker 1: an album and he still touches all the fan bases
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Speaker 1: that was already feeling him.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, because you're not gonna listen to like some baby
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Speaker 2: Voice Playboy Carty stuff when you thirty six, you know
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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you're not about to play that
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Speaker 2: in front of your family and.
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Speaker 3: Be like, Yo, this is what I was on when
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Speaker 3: I was a kid.
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Speaker 2: But you know the Forrest Gum joined by Frank Ocean
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Speaker 2: Thinking about You, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Like those vibes you could play in forever.
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Speaker 1: We had. We had a little party for Mahomie's wife
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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and we started doing karaoke to at the
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Speaker 1: end of the night and then someone put Mahomie Jay
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Speaker 1: shout out to Jay Superman he did thinking about You.
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Speaker 1: That was a friend everybody. When everybody got off the
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Speaker 1: couch and started singing along, and I was like, damn,
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Speaker 1: that still hits this day.
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Speaker 3: Thinking About You.
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Speaker 2: It was one of them songs that I remember when
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Speaker 2: when it leaked, and it wasn't even like it was
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Speaker 2: like a different recording. It was like a different beat.
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Speaker 2: But that version was so raw like and I was
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Speaker 2: just so attached to it that it took me time
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Speaker 2: to even love the album version because I was just
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Speaker 2: so used to that original version that I heard. It
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Speaker 2: was so different and it was like, like I said,
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Speaker 2: the production wasn't so polished. It was a little more raw,
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Speaker 2: a little grittier sound. It probably wasn't even mixed but
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Speaker 2: sometimes that vibe, Yeah, it just be.
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Speaker 3: There, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: That's the reason that stopped listening listening to Leaks for
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Speaker 1: a while, because I remember when Life of Pablo and
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Speaker 1: even My Beautiful Doctors a Fantasy, when Leaks were coming out,
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Speaker 1: I ended up loving the leak version more than the official
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Speaker 1: album version, Like I'm like, damn, like why did he
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Speaker 1: change that? Like that was my favorite part of that song.
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Speaker 1: Yep uh though, that raw original sound, because you know,
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Speaker 1: that's when they were in the studio, they were like
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Speaker 1: this is it, and then they went into album mode
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Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, let's let's find its perfected.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, sometimes doesn't need that perfection.
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Speaker 2: That's another reason why when I'm in the studio and
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Speaker 2: shout out to the artists that I've been working with lately,
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Speaker 2: Quincy jamal Taoh, I hadn't work with Tao in a
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Speaker 2: long time.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: We actually grew up making music together and just disconnected
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Speaker 2: from man years and we're just kind of reconnecting.
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Speaker 3: That's been kind of dope.
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Speaker 2: But we've been in the studio and both of them,
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Speaker 2: on separate occasions, both of them, on separate occasions, have
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Speaker 2: brought up maybe involving other people on certain records, maybe
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Speaker 2: getting some other vocals to do something, and it's like
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Speaker 2: my response to both of them was kind of the same.
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Speaker 3: It's like, it probably would be dope.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it wouldn't be dope, and I'm not disagreeing,
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Speaker 2: but think about the fact that you're trying to bring
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Speaker 2: another person into this equation to also have a say
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Speaker 2: in what's going on, to stifle the progress, to not show.
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Speaker 3: Up whenever we're gonna do something.
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Speaker 1: Whatever.
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Speaker 2: It's like for me, Bro, when it comes to music,
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Speaker 2: I just like to keep it as tight up as
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Speaker 2: possible because I like to be able.
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Speaker 3: To drop it when I want to drop it. I
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Speaker 3: like to be able to not be barred by anything,
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Speaker 3: like even with with like producing my own stuff.
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Speaker 2: That's something that's been real impactful to me because it's like,
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 3: Gotta worry about, oh, if the beat.
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Speaker 2: Maker sells the beat or if he's gonna want too
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Speaker 2: much money and to tie it into the Kanye thing.
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Speaker 3: Sampling.
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Speaker 2: That's why I don't sample, Bro, I don't sample at all.
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Speaker 2: And it's like it's not because I don't like sampling.
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Speaker 3: Sample is dope.
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Speaker 2: And it's easy because sounds that's already dope and you're
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Speaker 2: adding some drums to it and that's it, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Like that, it's not that.
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Speaker 2: Easy, but it's easier than creating your own sounds, you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: And it's it's a sound that people are used to,
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Speaker 1: that they heard.
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Speaker 2: It's familiarity too exactly. And the thing with sampling is
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Speaker 2: you don't know if you're gonna get it clear. In
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Speaker 2: a lot of cases, you don't know how much the
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Speaker 2: original person who owns the song is gonna want for
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Speaker 2: you sample in it. Like there's people that will take
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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the song. There's people that will
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Speaker 2: take one hundred percent of the song, like if they
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Speaker 2: if they're doing it retroactively, Oh no, no, we're not.
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Speaker 1: Doing those all the royal all royalties.
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Speaker 2: And another thing that a lot of people don't consider.
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Speaker 2: They be like, dang, bro, that artist is grimy whatever whatever.
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Speaker 2: They didn't want to clear the sample dog. A lot
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Speaker 2: of times these artists don't even own their own masters.
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Speaker 2: It just be an office of people that they just decide,
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Speaker 2: oh no, I don't want this sample cleared or whatever.
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Speaker 2: The case is, and it's like that that you're back
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Speaker 2: to the drawing board. And then when somebody like you,
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Speaker 2: here's the song after, and you're like, dang, what happened?
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Speaker 3: This other version was so dope.
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Speaker 2: It's like, oh, whoever was involved with this could get
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Speaker 2: it figured out.
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Speaker 1: Now it's roughly being a different element into you know, collaborations,
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Speaker 1: and that's what they call it elements. You know, not
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Speaker 1: all elements blend well together and react together. And that's
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Speaker 1: what it is. And that's the risk you take when
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Speaker 1: you add this and you add that, rather than just
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Speaker 1: call your own original version. That's way if you produce it,
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Speaker 1: you mix it, you master it, you write it, do everything,
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Speaker 1: you organize it. You get closer to your goal than
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Speaker 1: you would with adding all these other elements to it.
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Speaker 2: And shout out to unk Man Unk from the Cashiers.
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Speaker 2: Me and him do a lot of joints together. He's
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Speaker 2: really big on preaching to me about sound selection. That's
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Speaker 2: a big thing for him. I'll play him some stuff
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Speaker 2: and he'll be like, I like this, I like that,
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Speaker 2: but I would be a little more choosy on your sounds,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like keep digging and keep
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Speaker 2: finding those ones that are like ah, that's dope, and
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Speaker 2: that kind of goes hand in hand with like the
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Speaker 2: sampling thing.
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Speaker 3: Bro.
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Speaker 2: It's like sometimes you'll find something and be like, bro,
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Speaker 2: this is the vibe right here. You add it to
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Speaker 2: the song. You can't clear the sample. You can replay
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Speaker 2: it the same style, you can use the same notes,
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Speaker 2: you can do so much to recreate something, but if
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Speaker 2: you can't capture that magic that that piece had, it's
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Speaker 2: not that's the reason why that caught your eye, with
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Speaker 2: that magic that it had, And if you can't just
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Speaker 2: transfer that over to a new thing.
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Speaker 1: Nah, it's different. And big shout out to Unk And
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Speaker 1: because I remember, I still remember to this day that
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Speaker 1: he had that b competition uh posts on his Instagram
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Speaker 1: where he played this beat and I was like that
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Speaker 1: sample crazy and he coming to back and said that
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Speaker 1: was no sample, that was all me. I was like,
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Speaker 1: get out, yep, Now it makes sense.
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Speaker 2: And I've seen him in the studio take the most
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Speaker 2: time building the sound, you know what I'm saying, like,
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Speaker 2: not even not even throwing, just adding layers, adding o
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Speaker 2: this little stuff, stuff that sometimes you don't even here,
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Speaker 2: but it just adds to the ambiance as the frequencies,
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's it's it's really
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Speaker 2: like a like an art form, bro, and kind of
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Speaker 2: like to put a button in the Playboy Cardi thing
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Speaker 2: is like, at the end of the day, bro, like
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Speaker 2: lead with your best foot musically, put it out and
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Speaker 2: let your fan.
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Speaker 1: Base, trust your fan base, let.
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Speaker 3: Them consume it and keep them engaged, you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean?
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Speaker 2: Because, like I said to me, somebody like Playboy Cardi
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Speaker 2: bro a lot of those breaks that he took, he
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Speaker 2: definitely missed out on a lot that kind of put
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Speaker 2: him almost in like a certain box because like right now,
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Speaker 2: like the only person that was kind of like big
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Speaker 2: upping him was Kanye, And look at where Kanye is
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Speaker 2: right now. So it's like if the last guy that
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Speaker 2: was big up in you was Kanye, now you're kind
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Speaker 2: of like on an island by yourself. What you're gonna do,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And that's that's never a
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Speaker 2: situation you want to be in. Because you took too
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Speaker 2: long to like find yourself.
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Speaker 1: Then you gonna find some situation that you just don't
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Speaker 1: want to drop an album again because you're too hesitant
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Speaker 1: to in your head and you're like, nah, it's not
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Speaker 1: going to hear. It's not going to hear, like you
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Speaker 1: should have done it when you could.
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Speaker 3: That's something that what's her name Cardi B talks about.
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Speaker 2: That's why I feel about just being too in her
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Speaker 2: head about he's been so long and you want to
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Speaker 2: drop such a perfect thing because your fans been waiting
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Speaker 2: for so long. The first one was so successful. And
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Speaker 2: that's the funny thing about music too, Bro, Like that
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Speaker 2: first album, that's that's you, like you put your that's
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Speaker 2: your first album.
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Speaker 1: You got right there, Bro, I love that album.
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Speaker 3: You put a different energy or yourself into it.
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Speaker 2: Like you can't replicate that, Bro, You're never gonna get
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Speaker 2: that vibe on the second album. Like, no matter how
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Speaker 2: dope and artist, second, third, fourth, whatever, no matter what, Bro,
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Speaker 2: that first album feeling, you cannot replicate it.
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Speaker 1: Nobody has ever done it successfully. They could do it,
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Speaker 1: like the feeling wise, but the numbers wise, I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's ever done it.
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Speaker 2: And even if the numbers are better, the acclaim is
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Speaker 2: never the same, you know what I mean? Like people
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Speaker 2: always exactly, people always look to that like one of
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Speaker 2: those to me, that was a real big I wouldn't
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Speaker 2: say letdown.
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Speaker 3: Letdown is a little strong.
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Speaker 2: But somebody that I was like, dang with the second
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Speaker 2: album was fifty cent bro. Oh yeah, because I feel
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Speaker 2: like and he's even said it too. He puts so
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Speaker 2: much energy into the G Unit stuff and just that
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Speaker 2: run in general, that like BEG for merc he sounded
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Speaker 2: like it was like the follow up to get rich
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Speaker 2: of that tryan you know what I'm saying. And he
15:04
Speaker 2: said that he gave a lot of the joints that
15:06
Speaker 2: he was working on for what would have been his
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Speaker 2: second album for BEG for Mercy, and the label didn't
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Speaker 2: even want BEG for Mercy because they're like, bro, you
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Speaker 2: just sold X.
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Speaker 3: Amount of albums.
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Speaker 2: Bro, drop another album and he's like, nah, I'm dropping
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Speaker 2: this Unit project. And the Union project went crazy, but
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Speaker 2: you know it wouldn't have went It's crazy if it
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Speaker 2: was just fifty cent at that time.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Am I remember that? That was Tonyeo said that on
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Speaker 1: Drink Champs. He was like, Bro, he's like fifty looked
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Speaker 1: out for us. He put us, He put the group
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Speaker 1: G Unit in front of his whole success. He's like nah,
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Speaker 1: He's like, y'all gonna give me my album. Well, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna put g unit out here first. YO.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to Tonyeo for looking thirty six since nineteen ninety.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's that little.
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Speaker 2: Bro he got the wisdom because he always been on
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Speaker 2: fifty side. Bro, And everybody always want to say that
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Speaker 2: he's d riding or whatever. But it's like, Bro, he knows,
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Speaker 2: like like what he said in the interview, he knows
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Speaker 2: what it is, Bro.
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Speaker 3: He knows fifty is the one. Bro. The fact that
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Speaker 3: he's y'all along and doing all this stuff.
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Speaker 1: Bro, that was a recent interview. That wasn't even years ago.
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Speaker 1: I was recent. He'said, Yo, fifty put us first. Yep.
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Speaker 1: He put his people first before he even cared about
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Speaker 1: his second out.
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Speaker 2: But that's always been expressed privately between them because fifty
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Speaker 2: has never had issues with Yeah you know what I mean,
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Speaker 2: he knows that. Yeah, you appreciation it, Bro. That That's
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Speaker 2: the thing about people's egos too, Bro, you're in a group.
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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody should feel to a certain point where
16:24
Speaker 2: you could be the biggest and the best whatever. I understand, Bro,
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Speaker 2: you in a group of fifty cent. You see in
16:29
Speaker 2: the history, he's been a dog get stay in your place.
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Speaker 1: I'm let him make the call.
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Speaker 2: Stay in your place, dog like, until you can get
16:35
Speaker 2: to the point where you could definitively say nah, bro,
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Speaker 2: like I'm ready or this is my time or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Dog like the fact that everybody wanted to be the
16:44
Speaker 2: big dog and everything. Bro. It's like say Lloyd Banks, Yeah, yo,
16:48
Speaker 2: Lloyd Banks Game two.
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Speaker 3: Bro. I was a big Game fan, but he thought
16:51
Speaker 3: he was too big for Juni.
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Speaker 1: Bro Like, we only knew you because a Junion dog Bro.
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Speaker 2: He got signed G Unit just just off the strength
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Speaker 2: of Game getting signed Unit. I listened to all his
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Speaker 2: mixtapes just because they signed him.
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Speaker 1: Yo.
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Speaker 2: They just signed this dude out of Cali and he
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Speaker 2: was signed out aftermath, I think, and then they and
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Speaker 2: like I said, Bro, as soon as I knew, I
17:14
Speaker 2: was all right, But let me listen to all this music,
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Speaker 2: dog like, it was just off the strength.
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Speaker 1: You know. The point is, recognize your place, recognize where
17:22
Speaker 1: you are, make the right decisions to attack before it's
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Speaker 1: too late. Then you're backtracking at that point, and it
17:29
Speaker 1: might it might be too late, just like for Cardi
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Speaker 1: Playboy Cardi, it might be too late. You had your chance,
17:35
Speaker 1: you had your fan base. Maybe it might be too
17:36
Speaker 1: late for both cardies, both cardies. Yeah, real talk, but.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can kind of put a button on this
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Speaker 2: with the last music topic that we got and this
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Speaker 2: one kind of no, no, we'll keep we'll keep it
17:50
Speaker 2: in this one because it's the last little music that's it.
17:53
Speaker 2: But so this I understand this though, but this one
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Speaker 2: kind of made me grow and like made me feel
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Speaker 2: a little bad.
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Speaker 3: Bro, I just.
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Speaker 2: Seen you know recipes Valletta Wallace, Biggie's mom. She passed
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Speaker 2: away like a week and a half or so ago. Bro,
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Speaker 2: Like a week after she passed, Bro, they started dropping
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Speaker 2: the rumblings that they're about to sell Biggie's catalog to
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Speaker 2: some company. And like, Bro, as soon as she passed,
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Speaker 2: It's like that.
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Speaker 1: Means they had that ship in line. They had it
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Speaker 1: in line. They were ready. They knew the money, the
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Speaker 1: posthumous albums that Biggie could make. He had a couple,
18:28
Speaker 1: but the Bigger Duets was good. Right. I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: lie I was a fan of bigg Duets. Yeah, same,
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Speaker 1: I did that, But they didn't do with Biggie what
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Speaker 1: they did with pac you know what I mean As
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Speaker 1: far as far as everything he had left though, and
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Speaker 1: he's probably had more that we haven't even heard the thing.
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Speaker 3: We're biggie too.
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Speaker 2: And basically the main reason why they even buy these
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Speaker 2: catalogs is for the licensing fees. Like, Bro, you're talking
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Speaker 2: about Big Papa, you're talking about Uh if damn forgot
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Speaker 2: the name.
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Speaker 1: Of that song?
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Speaker 3: If you don't know.
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Speaker 1: Now you know, no one more chance.
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Speaker 2: No, no, bro, the the name is like something that
19:02
Speaker 2: that doesn't get juicy U.
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Speaker 3: I can't believe I forgot that.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, so you got juicy one more chance that
19:10
Speaker 2: you mentioned, you know, diverse on Benjamin's Like, Bro, you
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Speaker 2: hear these things on so many victory, Bro, you.
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Speaker 3: Hear that on so many things.
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Speaker 2: And it's like now they have whoever buys it from
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Speaker 2: them has the right to license. That's whoever wants to
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Speaker 2: buy the license.
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Speaker 1: I think within the last five years, it was like
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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals weekend and they were playing Victory. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I remember that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like they're still using them like that. Those tracks
19:35
Speaker 1: hit So there's like movie soundtrack songs.
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Speaker 2: And then there's always an argument too of like why
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Speaker 2: would you sell your music catalog? But then the other
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Speaker 2: side of it is if somebody's offering you three hundred
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Speaker 2: million for your music, Do you honestly feel like you're
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Speaker 2: gonna make three hundred million dollars from your music in
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Speaker 2: the next thirty years or something?
19:55
Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: You know how hard you would have to work to
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Speaker 2: make Like, for example, the Big had a log, Bro,
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Speaker 2: this is a dude that passed away I believe in
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six or seven.
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Speaker 1: Like, Bro, they're talking about seven, the sale would come ninety.
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Speaker 2: Six, the sale would come in at under one hundred million.
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Speaker 2: You're talking about one hundred million dollars for a couple
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Speaker 2: of rap albums from almost thirty years ago. Bro, How
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Speaker 2: is he going to make one hundred million off that
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Speaker 2: music posthumously in any other way?
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: So it's like I definitely get it, but I don't know,
20:28
Speaker 2: maybe just as an artist, there's just something about not
20:31
Speaker 2: owning your music that's just kind of weird, bro, you
20:33
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's just crazy to think, like, oh,
20:36
Speaker 2: I couldn't do certain things with my own music. Like
20:39
Speaker 2: it's even crazy to me still. I mentioned on the
20:41
Speaker 2: podcast too, that you can even own music like just air,
20:43
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's just frequencies. You're telling me you
20:47
Speaker 2: own it like it's crazy, though it's crazy as hell.
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Speaker 1: Nice bro, And like I said, you know, and this
20:53
Speaker 1: is when I know. And this is like not not
20:56
Speaker 1: to get too deep into like the super Bowl, who
20:58
Speaker 1: should perform with the super Bowl, but with America and
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Speaker 1: the US and the fan base in US across all
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Speaker 1: races and demographics and everything like, there is a certain
21:13
Speaker 1: list of rappers that everybody knows and it was all
21:17
Speaker 1: family feud who was the top best rappers? You know?
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Speaker 1: And it's always Biggie, Tupac, Snoop Doc, Doctor Dre. Those
21:24
Speaker 1: are the household names for rappers, no matter your background,
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Speaker 1: no matter your ethnicity. Those are if anybody knows, you
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Speaker 1: could ask anybody's world name five rappers, it's Biggie, Tupac,
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Speaker 1: Snoop Dog, and Doctor j are gonna be in those
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Speaker 1: four facts. Those are well household known names, you know.
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Speaker 2: And we could kind of wrap it up with this,
21:45
Speaker 2: but with the Super Bowl thing, because you reminded me
21:48
Speaker 2: of something. People are always so pressed about who's performing
21:51
Speaker 2: at the halftime show every year. There's always some crazy
21:55
Speaker 2: thing and people going back and forth, and there's always
21:57
Speaker 2: people that hate it. There's always people that love it.
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Speaker 2: But it's like, Bro, if you notice Super Bowl performers
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Speaker 2: in the last twenty thirty whatever since it's been a thing,
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Speaker 2: I always feel like they just get people that are
22:12
Speaker 2: going to attract the people that.
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Speaker 3: Weren't going to watch the super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Oh for sure, you know what I mean, Because it's like,
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Speaker 2: why are you going to just get an act for
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Speaker 2: the demographic that's already going to be tuning in, Like
22:24
Speaker 2: the year they got j Lo and Shakira. Bro, they
22:26
Speaker 2: didn't get that for football fans. They got it to
22:29
Speaker 2: get the ladies, to get the latinos.
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Speaker 1: And you see it like you see tweets and you
22:33
Speaker 1: see posts. I only tuned in for the halftime show, exactly.
22:36
Speaker 1: That's all I cared about exactly.
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Speaker 2: It's like, Bro, that's that's what it is. The way
22:41
Speaker 2: people get so bent out of shape about it and
22:43
Speaker 2: go back and forth and everything.
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Speaker 3: It's like, bro, it's music.
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Speaker 1: Dog Like, if you.
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Speaker 3: Don't like it, you don't like it, just shut up.
22:49
Speaker 1: And it's not for you. Let's what I always tell
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Speaker 1: my people who don't like stuff that I like, it's
22:53
Speaker 1: not for you. Facts nothing after after